[00:00] <superm1> chuk, if you want to help finish converting the GUI in laga's absence, he's been MIA for a while wrg to myth*
[00:01] <chuk> how different is the new MCC?
[00:01] <chuk> and isn't it just a wrapper for the script?
[00:01] <superm1> well it was rearchitected to not be monolithic, but instead pluggable
[00:01] <superm1> so now it has a frontend that runs as a user and a backend that runs as root
[00:02] <superm1> rather than running the whole thing as root in one big ugly app
[00:03] <chuk> but isn't the real work in modifying the script for ltsp-build-client?
[00:03] <superm1> none of that should have changed
[00:03] <superm1> which is why most of the diskless stuff should still work
[00:03] <superm1> it just doesn't have the GUI wrapper around it
[00:03] <chuk> oh
[00:03] <chuk> I ran the script, but it built a thin client somehow
[00:04] <superm1> there are special arguments for mythbuntu builds
[00:04] <superm1> i dont know them off hand
[00:04] <superm1> but they're all supported still
[00:04] <chuk> yes, I ran those, can I paste the statement I ran here?
[00:04] <superm1> let me try to get laga in here, he's the one who understands the backend stuff more
[00:05] <superm1> i really dont know it offhand
[00:05] <chuk> sure, thanks
[00:36] <Raspberry> hmm
[00:36] <Raspberry> so I blew away my mythbuntu box
[00:36] <Raspberry> and did a fresh install
[00:37] <Raspberry> "Fetch channels from listings source" doesn't seem to ever return aynthing
[00:37] <Raspberry> I've let it sit for 37 minutes now
[00:37] <Raspberry> I can log in to the schedulesdirect.org website with the user/pass -- so I know that's not the issue
[00:38] <Raspberry> I can "Scan for Channels" and that works ... but the schedules direct listing channel names don't match the way the channels identify themselves (except for 1) so that's the problem
[00:39] <Raspberry> the Data Direct Lineups are fetched properly...
[00:40] <superm1> try running mythtv-setup in a terminal
[00:40] <superm1> and check the terminal output when selecting said option
[00:40] <Raspberry> good idea
[00:43] <Raspberry> hmm
[00:43] <Raspberry> no errors in the terminal at all
[00:43] <Raspberry> odd
[00:44] <superm1> no errors == working!
[00:44] <Cyber-Dogg> howdy
[00:44] <Raspberry> i don't think it's pulling it
[00:44] <Raspberry> :p
[00:44] <superm1> or no...
[00:45] <Raspberry> I'm going to try to match the channel names to what SchedulesDirect has listed on their website
[00:45] <Raspberry> hopefully that'll pull them down
[00:45] <Cyber-Dogg> does the mythtv binary from apt-get have VDPAU support?
[00:45] <Raspberry> one channel is syncing the listing... so I think I can use that as my starting point
[00:46] <Cyber-Dogg> I see it in the playback profiles, but when I select it, it doesn't work and the error log says it wasn't compiled
[00:46] <chuk> cyber - .22 does
[00:46] <Raspberry> the new MythTV Player 0.7 is AWESOME btw
[00:46] <Cyber-Dogg> I'm pretty sure that's what I'm running
[00:47] <Cyber-Dogg> how do I check the version?
[00:48] <Cyber-Dogg> I'm pretty sure it's .22 but I'd like to see the build
[00:48] <chuk> mythbackend --version
[00:48] <Cyber-Dogg> 22593
[00:48] <Cyber-Dogg> 22594 I mean
[00:49] <Cyber-Dogg> also... I see using_vdpau in the options compiled in
[00:51] <chuk> are you having a problem with VDPAU?
[00:52] <Cyber-Dogg> yeah... I can't get it to work at all
[00:53] <Cyber-Dogg> when I go in to the plyaback options and tell it to use any of the VDPAU profiles
[00:53] <chuk> what video card, and have you set it up in the playback options
[00:53] <Cyber-Dogg> nvidia 8200
[00:53] <Cyber-Dogg> pretty sure it's supported there
[00:53] <Cyber-Dogg> I'm using the 185 driver
[00:53] <chuk> it is, I have one
[00:53] <chuk> what does it do when you try to play?
[00:54] <Cyber-Dogg> screen stays black and mythfrontend locks up
[00:54] <Cyber-Dogg> I look in the error log and I see....
[00:54]  * Cyber-Dogg getting text
[00:54] <Cyber-Dogg> VidOutVDPAU Error: Failed to initialise VDPAU
[00:54] <Cyber-Dogg> 2009-10-29 13:50:20.876 VideoOutputXv: Desired video renderer 'vdpau' not available.
[00:54] <Cyber-Dogg>                         codec 'None' makes 'xv-blit,xshm,xlib,' available, using 'xv-blit' instead.
[00:55] <Cyber-Dogg> I've seen another error about it saying it's noot compiled
[00:56] <Cyber-Dogg> this one... Failed to initialise VDPAU 2009-10-29 13:50:22.790 VideoOutput, Error: Not compiled with any useable video output method.
[00:57] <chuk> really shouldn't be any trick to it, is is a clean 9.10 install?
[00:57] <Cyber-Dogg> yeah
[00:57] <Cyber-Dogg> reformatted and installed 9.10
[00:57] <Cyber-Dogg> one person has suggested something with the video format...
[00:57] <Cyber-Dogg> I have a firewire connection to my STBs
[00:58] <Cyber-Dogg> so should be mpeg2 right?
[00:58] <Cyber-Dogg> and that should be acceleratable
[00:58] <chuk> yes and yes
[00:58] <Cyber-Dogg> and I'm not transcoding or anything
[00:58] <Cyber-Dogg> any thoughts?
[00:59] <Cyber-Dogg> any additional information that might shed some light on something?
[00:59] <chuk> you sure you are using nvidia driver and not fallback?
[00:59] <Cyber-Dogg> yeah... I went into the proprietary driver tool and set the 185 to active and rebooted
[00:59] <Cyber-Dogg> it shows as active now
[01:00] <chuk> can you try it with .mkv file instead of your STB?
[01:00] <Cyber-Dogg> where do I get one? :-)
[01:01] <Cyber-Dogg> which VDPAU should I use?
[01:01] <Cyber-Dogg> high quality or normal?
[01:01] <chuk> I just create my own profile
[01:01] <chuk> and I turn off all deinterlacing to start
[01:01] <chuk> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=123095
[01:01] <chuk> some samples in 3rd post
[01:02] <Cyber-Dogg> which file do you want me to try?
[01:02] <chuk> nature one should be good
[01:03] <chuk> and you might want to try mplayer, just to see if vdpau is working at all on your system
[01:03] <Cyber-Dogg> k
[01:03] <Cyber-Dogg> I don't have mplayer evidently :-)
[01:03] <Cyber-Dogg> getting that
[01:05] <Cyber-Dogg> ts or h264?
[01:05] <chuk> h264
[01:06] <Cyber-Dogg> working fine
[01:06] <chuk> check your CPU usage
[01:06] <chuk> should be minimal
[01:07] <Cyber-Dogg> mplayer isn't in top
[01:07] <chuk> at all?
[01:07] <chuk> should be 5% or so
[01:08] <Cyber-Dogg> it hits 2% once in a while and then drops back to 0 and disappears from the top list
[01:08] <chuk> ok, I would try to create a new profile
[01:08] <chuk> and select VDAPU as the render and choose no deinterlacing
[01:08] <chuk> just so you don't mess with the built in ones
[01:08] <Cyber-Dogg> k
[01:09] <Cyber-Dogg> so do i just want one entry and have it be for all then?
[01:09] <chuk> thats that I do, just choose >=0
[01:10] <Cyber-Dogg> ok... here we go...
[01:10] <Cyber-Dogg> same thing...
[01:11] <Cyber-Dogg> screen went black...
[01:11] <chuk> try adding that video you downloaded to your video library
[01:11] <chuk> and playing it with myths builtin player
[01:11] <Cyber-Dogg> and I assume that frontend is locked up because escape won't get me back to the menu
[01:11] <Cyber-Dogg> k
[01:11] <chuk> since we know that video works, it should work in myth, if it does, then you at least know the problem is something in your STB setup
[01:11] <Cyber-Dogg> k
[01:13] <Cyber-Dogg> my media library only has an option for recordings...?
[01:13] <Cyber-Dogg> how do I get videos in it?
[01:13] <Cyber-Dogg> add the directoy through setup?
[01:13] <chuk> have to define in on the backend setup mythtv-setup
[01:13] <Cyber-Dogg> k
[01:16] <Cyber-Dogg> k... I added the videos directory
[01:16] <Cyber-Dogg> is that all I need to do?
[01:18] <chuk> go in the frontend now and go to media library, watch videos
[01:18] <Cyber-Dogg> mythfilldatabase is running now
[01:18] <chuk> I think you may have to scan for changes, if you don't see the video, hit M, and choose scan for changes
[01:18] <Cyber-Dogg> k
[01:19] <Cyber-Dogg> I don't see watch videos in media library
[01:19] <Cyber-Dogg> only watch recordings still
[01:19] <chuk> oh, you may not have mythvideo install....
[01:19] <chuk> apt-get install mythvideo
[01:19] <Cyber-Dogg> ah... yeah
[01:19] <Cyber-Dogg> k
[01:19] <Cyber-Dogg> definitely didn't do that yet
[01:20] <Cyber-Dogg> could tha be related?
[01:21] <OpenMedia> I'm a bit surprised at the amount of CPU used by the frontend when it isn't being used.
[01:22] <Cyber-Dogg> ugh...
[01:22] <OpenMedia> I'm seeing about 15% of a CPU for the process.
[01:22] <Cyber-Dogg> ok... now the video menu option is there... I have the file in /var/lib/mythtv/videos but it doesn't show in the list
[01:22] <OpenMedia> Running strace shows "read(8, 0x9752b28, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)" a lot
[01:22] <OpenMedia> does anyone know if it is busy waiting on a resource?
[01:24] <yfwork> superm1 : ping
[01:25] <yfwork> Seems that patch for lirc (zilog) works for people : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1294825&page=3
[01:26] <yfwork> Can you add it to lirc-modules-source?
[01:26] <Cyber-Dogg> h264 isn't in the file association list
[01:27] <Cyber-Dogg> should Interal be the player?
[01:28] <Cyber-Dogg> chuk: same thing... not compiled with any useable video output method
[01:31] <Cyber-Dogg> any thoughts on where I should look?
[01:50] <Cyber-Dogg> ... so quiet
[01:52] <Cyber-Dogg> so... I just saw other people online are having the same issue I am
[01:52] <Cyber-Dogg> http://www.mail-archive.com/universe-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg152251.html
[02:19] <fritz3000g> Sorry I accidentally closed Pidgin.  Anyone know why dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg wouldn't work in karmic?  By "not work", I mean not actually do anything - just return to the next line.
[03:02] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[03:02] <mattwj2002> a bit off topic
[03:02] <mattwj2002> anyone know howto install boxee in 9.10?
[03:03] <tgm4883> no
[03:04] <darthanubis> waaaay OT lol
[03:05] <mattwj2002> :)
[03:11] <mattwj2002> it looks like it installs with this guide
[03:11] <mattwj2002> http://forum.boxee.tv/showthread.php?p=60489
[03:55] <darthanubis> Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 67108864 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 92 bytes) in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/translate.php on line 142
[04:01] <darthanubis> forgetaboutit
[04:20] <Cuco3> Hello everyone
[04:21] <Cuco3> Does anyone know why when i press "Watch TV", the screen just flashes black for a split second then returns to "Watch TV" menu
[04:21] <Cuco3> ?
[04:31] <MythbuntuGuest09> I just upgraded to Mythbuntu 9.10 today.  I am getting the error on boot "Error: MythTV is using all inputs, buy there are no active recordings?".  Restarting the baclend fixes it.  In the forums there is a reference to this error only for the HDHomerun, I have 2 PVR-150s and a PVR-500.  Has anyone seen this condition where mythtv-backen boots prior to the local tuners being ready?  In 9.10 where can one change th
[04:38] <Cuco3> Does anyone know why when i press "Watch TV", the screen just flashes black for a split second then returns to "Watch TV" menu
[04:38] <Cuco3> -------------------------------------
[04:38] <Cuco3> when i go to "information", it says "Tuner1 is unavailable"
[04:39] <Cuco3> but I know my tuner works fine, through "TVTime"
[04:40] <superm1> yfwork, Yeah, its on todo.  i'll  let you know when its on
[04:44] <Cuco3> whats the command to stop/start and see the status of mythtv-backend, please?
[04:44] <MythbuntuGuest09> Cuco3... Sounds like you may have the same issue...
[04:44] <Cuco3> I thought it was "mythtv-backend status" or "mythtv-backend start" but it says command not found
[04:44] <MythbuntuGuest09> sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart
[04:44] <Cuco3> ty
[04:45] <Cuco3> Guest09 I'm still on Jaunty, would that also affect me?
[04:45] <Cuco3> (the error you're experiencing)
[04:45] <MythbuntuGuest09> If that works for you and it only is an issue on boot then we may have the same problem.
[04:45] <MythbuntuGuest09> Maybe... Depens on your tuners and timing I suppose...
[04:46] <MythbuntuGuest09> Cuco3 - Is it only at inital boot you are seeing this error?
[04:46] <Cuco3> hmm
[04:46] <Cuco3> nope, I tried restart, no luck
[04:50] <Cuco3> man I'm so dying to get this pvr going! :D
[04:54] <Cuco3> :/
[05:00] <Cuco3> is a video source necessary?
[05:03] <MythbuntuGuest09> Cuco3 - In the backend setup did you set up the tuner, source and then link them together?
[05:04] <Cuco3> lemme check.
[05:04] <Cuco3> i know I have the tuner
[05:04] <Cuco3> I'm not sure what a video source is :-/
[05:04] <Cuco3> but I've tried configuring it
[05:05] <Cuco3> can you recommend what video source I should be using?
[05:05] <Cuco3> right now i have "transmitted guide only"
[05:14] <Cuco3> ok got it working
[05:14] <Cuco3> but man
[05:14] <Cuco3> it's like 2 seconds slow to respond to my satellite remote control action. is this normal?
[05:15] <MythbuntuGuest09> Are you using schedules direct.. Or what source?
[05:16] <hads> You mean you push a button on your satelitte box remote and it takes a couple of seconds to show up through myth?
[05:16] <hads> If so yes, that is normal.
[05:17] <hads> That's not really how it's intended to be used.
[05:18] <Cuco3> hads: yes, that's what I'm referring to. thanks. how is it intended to be used?
[05:19] <Cuco3> Guest09: I'm using "Transmitted Guide Only (EIT)" ... I'm not sure which one to use. I know DirectSchedules charges but I don't want to pay a monthly fee.
[05:21] <hads> Cuco3: Typically you use a remote directly with the Myth PC, and then an IR blaster from the PC to the STB to control changing channel on it.
[05:22] <hads> Myth always records TV and then plays it to you, this means that it's a couple seconds behind live all the time.
[05:22] <hads> It's also how you can pause/rewind/fast forward etc.
[05:22] <Cuco3> ahhh
[05:23] <hads> It also means that if you are halfway thorough a show that you've watched from the start then you can hit record and it will save the entire show.
[05:23] <Cuco3> I have an IR remote but I don't think it connects to my STB. Lemme check right quick
[05:23] <Cuco3> ah! interesting!!!
[05:23] <Cuco3> i like it already :D
[05:23] <hads> You need an IR remote for your PC. Like a MS MCE or something.
[05:23] <Cuco3> I wonder if my XBOX 360 remote works
[05:23] <Cuco3> the media remote for 360
[05:24] <hads> Not sure. You should be able to pick up a MCE remote pretty cheap though.
[05:24] <hads> Where are you in the world?
[05:24] <Cuco3> miami, fl
[05:25] <hads> It's funny how people in the US quote their city/state when asked that and people in the rest of the world say their country :)
[05:25] <Cuco3> lol
[05:26] <Cuco3> its true
[05:26] <hads> Something like that I think; http://www.amazon.com/Vista-Certified-Infrared-Receiver-Ultimate/dp/B000ST7QPA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1257139580&sr=8-3
[05:27] <hads> But you can search from there with your preferred retailers.
[05:28] <Cuco3> thanks
[05:28] <Cuco3> but you say the IR blaster has to connect to my satellite stb?
[05:29] <hads> You just stick the blaster near the IR remote port on the STB and it pretends to be a remote when changing channels.
[05:29] <hads> Those MCE remotes should come with a blaster part but you should check before you purchase.
[05:29] <hads> Also check with someone from the US as there may be other ways to control your STB that I don't know about.
[05:31] <Cuco3> it'd have to be a UHF remote since the stb is not in my room :-/
[05:36] <Cuco3> lol pressed the power button on the remote and it shut down my computer :-p
[05:36] <hads> heh
[05:39] <Cuco3> do you know if I have to configure this remote through mythtv
[05:44] <Cuco3> weird, my recordings don't have any audio
[05:44] <hads> Cuco3: What remote?
[05:45] <Cuco3> hads: it came with an AverMedia PCI300
[05:46] <hads> Oh you already have one with your PC? Yes you will need to configure it. You should be able to do so through mythbuntu-control-centre
[05:47] <Cuco3> yeah, it's kinda old, but gets the job done!
[05:58] <Cuco3> hmm now my mythtv front end isn't displaying video
[05:58] <Cuco3> after installing mythbuntu control center
[06:05] <Cuco3> nvm got it working
[06:06] <Cuco3> can someone recommend any ideas on why this audio is working for live tv, but when I check my recordings, there is no audio?
[08:43] <nblah> I am having problems recording tv, i schedule items but they never seem to record, when i go to watch recording all i get are items i have watched on livetv in the past
[08:43] <nblah> my recording directory is empty and has same permissions as livetv directory which has data inside
[08:44] <nblah> i can see things under previously recorded when i go to manage my recordings, this lists the things I wanted to record however I dont have the option to playback on to re-record, delete, etc
[08:45] <hads> !logs
[08:45] <Zinn> MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[08:45] <hads> Have you got free space? Perhaps they are recording and then expiring or something.
[08:46] <nblah> yea I have mythtv pointing to a seperate 1tb drive
[08:46] <nblah> Zinn, which logs are most helpful when troubleshooting recording? front or back?
[08:47] <hads> Make sure it's mounted, start with the simple things :)
[08:47] <hads> Zinn is a bot. mythbackend log is the most important.
[08:47] <nblah> hads, yea its mounted, /home is on a second disk and myth uses a subdir of /home
[08:48] <nblah> ok i had some recording fail today so I will try match it up when when it failed and paste it
[08:54] <nblah> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m44707f88
[08:54] <nblah> that was something that should have recorded today
[08:55] <nblah> i dont know why it it was recording something else... it always seems to record what I am watching on livetv, is that normal?
[08:55] <hads> Yes
[08:56] <hads> That gives you the puase/rewind/etc. functionality.
[08:56] <hads> Looks like you have something wrong with your card/channel config. Can you watch that particular channel live?
[08:57] <nblah> all channels work fine live
[09:00] <hads> What version are you on?
[09:01] <hads> #5739
[09:03] <nblah> mythbackend version: branches/release-0-22-fixes [22594]
[09:03] <hads> #5352
[09:03] <hads> I was trying to look up some bugs on svn.mythtv.org for you but it's down at the moment.
[09:04] <hads> Those are the bug numbers.
[09:04] <nblah> oh, bummer. yea the same hardware was working under 0.21
[09:05] <hads> Not something I've seen before so I can't really help much more right now without access to mythtv.org
[09:07] <nblah> no problem, thanks for your time
[09:08] <nblah> would you know why i get stuttering issues watching HD tv? I constantly get this in my log: 2009-11-02 08:02:55.552 NVP(0): prebuffering pause
[09:09] <nblah> looking at the timestamp there is like 10 every second
[09:12] <hads> For your other error, if you get that all the time (ERROR when trying to delete file) then there's possibly something wrong with your storage group setup.
[09:13] <hads> And the prebuffering pause error I don't know about.
[09:14] <nblah> ok, ill check all my storage group settings
[09:15] <hads> If it's the same file all the time then it could be just a one off case of a missing file.
[09:16] <hads> Which is not a big deal.
[09:20] <darther> hello everyone. Can you help me with homebrew serial receiver installation under mythbuntu 9.10? thank
[09:22] <nblah> hads, yea i read that i can just touch it to shut it up and trick it
[09:22] <nblah> seems to be the one file over and over
[09:23] <hads> Oh yeah if it's just one do that.
[09:23] <hads> I thought you were saying it was all the time as in lots of different files.
[10:17] <nblah> is there a way to prevent screensaver starting when I am watching tv other than turn it off completely?
[10:47] <nblah> why does my lcd never connect? I have LCDd running and all i get is the date and heartbeat on the LCD but never show info
[10:47] <nblah> Connecting to lcd server: localhost:6545 (try 8 of 10)
[12:36] <kresp0> is there somebody that can help me to run mythtv-setup?
[12:36] <kresp0> see this: http://pastebin.com/m66c804
[16:25] <darther> Hello, need help with my homebrew serial receiver to work, cant find any guide. thank for reply
[16:52] <danielqb> hello!
[16:52] <danielqb> i have a question
[17:06] <danielqb> i install mythubuntu in my home server in ubuntu server, i don't need graphic interface and i think i can make this my server backend and the oters PC in my house the clients frontend, but i don't know how make the next step in the instalation if this is in grafical mode.
[17:07] <superm1> you need vnc or X forwarding to run mythtv-setup once
[17:07] <superm1> or a local display on that box
[17:08] <danielqb> is posible configure this service in text mode?
[17:08] <danielqb> or tranfer the configuration files from my personal PC ?
[17:11] <superm1> No
[17:11] <superm1> its a Qt4 app
[17:11] <superm1> and needs access to your hardware
[17:11] <superm1> tuner, drives, etc
[17:12] <superm1> the best thing to do IMO is to do a normal backend only install from a mythbuntu CD when you have a display hooked up
[17:12] <superm1> get everything configured, and make sure you picked vnc during install
[17:13] <superm1> in the future if you evar have to change something, you can connect via VNC, otherwise you dont ever need to plug a display in again
[17:13] <superm1> installing in text mode is more pain than is necessary
[17:14] <olejl1> I have a couple of questions. First this one: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f538599c6
[17:15] <olejl1> I was just browsing the menu and suddenly mythtv stopped responding
[17:15] <olejl1> 'top' is showing 100% CPU usage.
[17:17] <olejl1> Second question is why is it that everytime I start my FE, I have to select language, IP address ++ before the FE is started?
[17:22] <danielqb> ok, in this case i don't need all time the graphical mode because my serv is a low machine and y have more services in this, ¿myth need the grafic interface every time up? used in this?
[17:23] <danielqb> i can install the graphic but i dont know if is gnome or other
[17:27] <superm1> danielqb, so if you install from a mythbuntu disk it installs with Xfce
[17:27] <superm1> and gdm for starting X
[17:27] <superm1> you can always disable gdm later too
[18:08] <danielqb> then you recommend me install xfce?, if I like it because I would not take much the machine and I can't reinstall my OS.
[18:13] <superm1> it sounded like you just did a fresh install, in which case i would have recommended just reinstalling the OS
[18:14] <superm1> that's the absolute easiest scenario
[18:14] <superm1> otherewise, you need a window manager installed and either VNC or a full X load
[18:19] <darther> any homebrew serial receiver user with 9.10 here?
[19:10] <darthanubis> so basically if I want to use Mythtv/Mytbuntu unobstructed I should remove Pulseaudio?
[19:11] <darthanubis> Why does mythtv hog the sound system and prevent pulseaudio from working while the frontend is working?
[19:11] <darthanubis> maybe that should be my project, removing pulseaudio from my backend
[19:11] <darthanubis> sigh
[19:13] <darthanubis> does mythbuntu come with pulseaudio by default?
[19:19] <superm1> no it doesnt
[19:20] <superm1> there is an env variable to allow pulseaudio that upstream added
[19:20] <superm1> like EXPERIMENTALLY_ALLOW_PULSEAUDIO or something like that
[19:23] <darthanubis> well, i'll try to purge pulseaudio from my system. If that goes badly I'll just backup the database and go for the mythbuntu install
[19:24] <mrand> !pulseaudio darthanubis
[19:24] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about pulseaudio darthanubis
[19:24] <mrand> blah
[19:25] <mrand> !pulseaudio
[19:25] <Zinn> Pulse Audio, aka kitten killer.  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio for more information.  Pulse Audio seems to cause problems with MythTV, so if you don't have any dependencies on it, it's recommended that you remove it.
[19:25] <darthanubis> so mythbuntu is using ALSA right
[19:25] <darthanubis> mrand, you forgot the | after pulseaudio
[19:25] <mrand> darthanubis.... Pulse Audio, aka kitten killer.  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio for more information.  Pulse Audio seems to cause problems with MythTV - if you are having trouble, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/460579 for potential work-arounds
[19:25] <mrand> yeah.
[19:25] <darthanubis> :)
[19:27] <darthanubis> mrand, thanks I'll try that and post my results
[19:32] <superm1> FWIW, 0.23 should have proper pulseaudio support
[19:32] <superm1> there is going to be an actual setting in General settings for choosing pulse
[19:33] <mrand> yay
[19:33] <superm1> and if the AV sync issues are sorted out, i hope it will be able to dynamically fill it with pulse when pulse is running
[19:33] <superm1> as we get closer to 0.23 we'll have to look more closely
[19:33] <hads> I saw that, hopefully it all pulls together as that would be neat.
[19:34] <hads> I do like the idea of routing sound around the place over the LAN
[19:36] <superm1> that's the biggest delta for ubuntu and mythbuntu installs though
[19:36] <superm1> if it gets to the point that pulse and myth get along, we can probably evaluate using gnome as a base too instead of xfce
[19:36] <superm1> after doing some memory usage tests and what not
[19:54] <hads> Good point.
[19:54] <hads> One of my frontends uses Gnome.
[19:54] <hads> Currently. XFCE was a bit broken when I installed it for some reason.
[19:55] <hads> (this was during alpha/beta stage)
[19:57] <superm1> yeah there was random breakage during development, but it should be good now
[19:57] <superm1> i suppose the other worry is what compiz does to myth
[19:57] <superm1> i'm not sure if it hurts/doesnt do anything or what
[20:00] <hads> Yeah I just haven't got around to switching it back now. I assume it's fine.
[20:00] <hads> So far I haven't noticed anything odd.
[20:00] <hads> (with using Gnome)
[20:09] <hipitihop> I have had only mythtv-themes held back for over a week and no other updates available... now that karmic is out, should I be doing a dist-upgrade ?
[20:10] <superm1> use update-manager to update it or do a dist-upgrade yes
[20:10] <superm1> it will want to remove unsupported themes
[20:56] <hipitihop> superm1, thanks done.
[20:58] <hipitihop> if I am already running a nas where my photo collection is stored, what is the normal way to get my mythtv to just use that directly, it seems to have its own storage locations
[21:01] <hads> You need to mount the NAS either at the mythtv location or somewhere else on the filesystem and adjust the myth settings.
[21:01] <hads> To do that you use a network filesystem such as NFS/CIFS depending on what your NAS supports.
[21:05] <hipitihop> hads, nas supports nfs/cifs and also some apple protocol, so nfs is the linux way ? and so I should mount the nfs share via fstab and then configure mythtv to use that mount point or do I put some simlink into mythtv's normal location ?
[21:05] <hads> You've got it. I would use NFS myself.
[21:07] <hads> You can mount it where ever you like, either directly at the /var/lib/mythtv/whatever point, or choose your own.
[21:10] <hipitihop> hads, of course, I keep forgetting the consistency and simplicity of the linux file system ... still a noob who knows enough to be dangerous
[21:21] <hads> hipitihop: Yes it is nice isn't it.
[21:23] <hipitihop> I guess I'll need to install an nfs client or common or something, looking
[21:23] <hads> nfs-common
[21:23] <hads> then test it with 'sudo mount 192.168.3.2:/nas/directory /mnt/point'
[21:24] <hads> After that you can add it to fstab
[21:24] <hipitihop> yup ... how hard would it be to offload/spill recordings on to a nas share ?
[21:25] <hads> Just add the mounted directory to a storage group, done :)
[21:25] <hads> Myth will know that's it's not local and prefer local storage until it's either full or has several recordings in progress already.
[21:26] <hads> If you want it to prefer remote storage you need to add some priority or something.
[21:30] <hipitihop> that's cool... although there is some mention on wiki that things like vlc could not play it back when storage groups are used
[21:36] <hipitihop> so I take it I'll mount to /var/lib/mythtv/pictures looks like the standard mythtv setup
[21:37] <Tuv0k> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/460579/comments/6
[21:42] <duffrecords> has anyone had trouble with huge fonts?  I upgraded to Karmic yesterday and the fonts are enormous.  usually this is because I'm using a television as a monitor and all I have to do is edit the dpi in gdm.conf, but that doesn't work this time
[21:44] <hipitihop> just installed nfs-common , is there anything else I need to run for it startup ? I get following when doing mount "mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running"
[21:44]  * hipitihop runs off to google nfs docs
[22:19] <hipitihop> hads, I actually notice the nfs-common install failed with "invoke-rc.d: initscript idmapd, action "restart" failed.
[22:20] <hipitihop> dpkg: error processing nfs-common (--configure):
[22:20] <hipitihop>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[22:28] <superm1> hipitihop, there was a bug if you installed from early betas that might cause that
[22:28] <superm1> search for bugs on nfs-common on launchpad and you should see the workaround
[22:29] <hads> Sorry, been away switching DSL providers.
[22:30] <hipitihop> superm1, yes I installed from one of the betas a month ago
[22:30] <superm1> that's why then
[22:30] <superm1> it was fixed at gold
[22:32] <hipitihop> and none of the update fix it ?
[22:35] <hipitihop> I have been assuming that doing update && upgrade would amount to the same as the release version
[22:35] <hads> It should be close to it.
[22:35] <hads> There are always a few corner cases
[22:36] <tgm4883> well updates bring you to release, unless you can't upgrade
[22:36] <hipitihop> I wonder if that may also be effecting my lirc
[22:36] <hads> bug 441055
[22:36] <Zinn> Bug 441055 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu) "package nfs-common 1:1.2.0-2ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade:" [High, Fix Released] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/441055
[22:41] <hipitihop> hads, that mentions package nfs-utils but apt-get install fails to find that too ..reading bug again
[22:42] <superm1> this was a corner case because ubiquity decided not to copy a library
[22:42] <superm1> dont think that's the exact bug
[22:42] <superm1> there is one i filed
[22:43] <superm1> bug 457896
[22:43] <Zinn> Bug 457896 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu) "package nfs-common (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium, Fix Released] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/457896
[22:44] <superm1> run sudo rpc.idmapd -v -f
[22:44] <superm1> and it will tell you waht needs to be reinstalled
[22:45] <hads> Ah sorry, wrong one :)
[22:46] <hipitihop> superm1, I get "rpc.idmapd: libnfsidmap: using domain: localdomain
[22:46] <hipitihop> rpc.idmapd: libnfsidmap: loaded plugin libnfsidmap_nsswitch.so.0 for method nsswitch
[22:46] <hipitihop> rpc.idmapd: Expiration time is 600 seconds.
[22:46] <hipitihop> rpc.idmapd: Opened /proc/net/rpc/nfs4.nametoid/channel
[22:46] <hipitihop> rpc.idmapd: Opened /proc/net/rpc/nfs4.idtoname/channel
[22:46] <superm1> oh looks good then
[22:47] <superm1> bug fixed
[22:47] <superm1> so things should be fine, otherwise you've got another bug
[22:47] <hipitihop> does above return after a while or something that keeps running ?
[22:49] <superm1> not sure
[22:49] <superm1> that was just to test it
[22:50] <hipitihop> tried the mount in another ssh session and still get same "rpc.statd is not running" error
[22:55] <hipitihop> so if it is working in gold, should I remove nfs-common and others and try a fresh install of them ?
[22:57] <Spirits-Sight> Does any one have the website for HDhomerunner
[23:05] <hads> The manufacturers website (www.silicondust.com) is the first hit on google.
[23:06] <hipitihop> superm1, hads. I got it !! ... I removed nfs-common, then I did 'sudo stop idmapd' and then installed nfs-common again. Install worked this time and now mount works too. Thanks for your help
[23:07] <hads> Cool, well done.
[23:30] <Spirits-Sight> what is recommend for a system that need to connect compsition type device? like VCR <-- no not using this device that is like old school
[23:39] <hipitihop> I just noticed the following in my dmesg 144515.337039] svc: failed to register lockdv1 RPC service (errno 97).
[23:39] <hipitihop> [145429.202534] mythfrontend.re[10594]: segfault at 10 ip 00007f29b4722c00 sp 00007fffc3353e48 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.5.2[7f29b45c4000+22d000]
[23:39] <hipitihop> [145884.398305] mythfrontend.re[12944]: segfault at 10 ip 00007fa5a535ec00 sp 00007fff4368dc88 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.5.2[7fa5a5200000+22d000]
[23:44] <mrand> hipitihop: is it doing that continously, or just one (or at least, rarely)?
[23:59] <hipitihop> mrand, I only noticed recently as I have been using the picture gallery now that I have managed to mount my nas on nfs
[23:59] <hipitihop> mrand, can I help with any other log info ?