[00:16] New bug: #469336 in linux (main) "part of lm-sensors and fancontrol does not work after fresh install of 9.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/469336 [01:08] Why is there no way to load a different version of the kernel without rebooting? [01:08] Erm, because that's how kernels work. [01:09] It's like saying "why can't I refuel my cessna without landing?" [01:09] twb: hmm .. they should work differently then. [01:09] You are welcome to talk to Hurd or Mach about that. [01:09] Microkernels are probably more "pluggable" [01:10] The erlang people have also done some work into replacing components of a large, scary system while it's running, without the whole thing crashing down [01:10] See, it is possible to refuel it without landing then ;). [01:12] You can refuel some aircraft in mid-air, but they generally have to be designed from the ground up with that functionality in mind. [01:12] I know that you can patch it without rebooting. [01:12] Do you just. === Sn0oP is now known as GammalSokk [01:20] snth: You may be interested in http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/07/ksplice-is-like-viagra-for-linux-server-uptime.ars [01:21] jmarsden: Yeah, exactly. They can apply patches, but I am not sure that they can reload a whole new version. [01:22] snth: kspice is open source -- if this is important to you, learn all about it and improve it so it does what you need. [01:22] *ksplice [01:32] I think VMS kernel can update without rebooting too, I wonder why MS didn't port that VMS-feature to NT with all the rest they took from it ;) [01:46] IIRC ksplice also can't patch kernels arbitrarily. Any change involving a data structure still requires a reboot. [02:05] I need a good guide on setting up virtual hosts... [02:05] anyone got a good link? [02:08] The ubuntu admin guide should include that [02:08] Unfortunately there's no bloody link in ubottu, nor in /topic, and ICBF digging it up yet again [02:08] is the admin guide the same as the server guide [02:08] Yeah [02:08] ahh [02:08] okay, I have the link booked marketed. Thanks [02:08] Which is why it takes me so long to find [02:08] and yeah, why is it not in the topic? [02:09] Any operators here want to be nice and add the link to the topic? [02:09] !ops [02:09] Help! Channel emergency! infinity, soren, lamont, mathiaz or tom [02:09] lol [02:10] Also, I am not sure creating virtual hosts is the best option... [02:11] I have two friends that are going to college for digital media design... and part of the course study is building websites. I wanted to set them up with a play ground on my server. Give them an one FTP account each, and access to a sub directory each. I am not really worried about security... [02:11] Should I just create the two sub domains and create two ftp accounts that only have access to the respective directories? [02:12] twb: everything sorted? [02:13] nalioth: it was about adding the server guide to the topic [02:13] https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/index.html <--- in topic [02:13] And/or in ubottu [02:14] though when I look now, I see "server guide: http://tinyurl.com/65jzxw" [02:14] Oh. [02:14] oh... [02:14] so I guess it's sorted enough [02:14] * crohakon dislikes tinyurl... [02:14] I guess I don't look at tinyurls because they only exist for rickrolling [02:14] rickrolling & cramming as much as possible into a channel topic [02:15] although, that tinyurl is for 8.something... not 9.04... or .10 for that matter... [02:15] You could lose the www. from esr's site :-) [02:15] But also the other stuff in /topic wasn't tinyurl'd. [02:17] you could lose esr's site [02:18] crohakon: right, it goes to the server guide for hardy, the last LTS release [02:26] Yeah, replace it with the copy on linuxmafia [02:26] Since Moen isn't an NRA goon [02:26] >duck< [02:42] Does anyone know what's the equivalent to Redhat Kudzu in Ubuntu? [02:50] snth: you could create one by adding an init script that does "sleep 10m" [02:51] twb: what? Kudzu is a hardware detection tool. [02:51] It simply probes for the hardware, looks up the driver/module in a hwdatabase. Then configures your kernel to load that module. [02:51] IME what kudzu mainly does is say: [02:52] "hi, headless machine with no display! Apparently the mouse was unplugged, so I will sit here and wait for input for a while instead of booting!" [02:52] I have never needed anything to perform that function since I started using ubuntu [02:52] 4 years ago [02:52] But if you're talking about hardware detection, the closest thing is probably udev (for NICs) and UUID/LABELs (for fstab). [02:53] it just works [02:53] qman__: I am trying to understand how it works :) [02:53] In theory what kudzu is supposed to do is notice when you replace one NIC with another, or add a NIC, and pop up a helpful GUI asking you what to do about it. [02:53] ubuntu just does something about it [02:53] and doesn't ask you [02:53] if it's wrong, you go in and fix it [02:53] Mainly what it does is REALLY, REALLY annoy you [02:54] Kudzu doesn't have to ask you about anything. Also, it doesn't only work for NICs. It literally probes for any hardware you add/change. [02:54] For example, it once managed to remove all the nodes from my RAID (or was it LVM?) array when I swapped in a new HDD [02:54] the point is, that function is not necessary [02:55] the system handles hardware changes without that [02:55] Infact, as far as I remember, kudzu doesn' automatically run. It only runs during boot .. then, you can run it manually, but it won't just detect stuff for you after booting. [02:55] qman__: rather, Ubuntu acts the same as if you let Kudzu time out. [02:55] right [02:55] snth: IME it runs automatically during boot. [02:55] it's handled by udev (I think it's still udev?) [02:56] it just takes care of it [02:56] udev will notice new hardware, but not do anything about it. [02:56] no user interaction necessary [02:56] *looking up IME* [02:56] IME = In My Experience [02:56] Install bsdgames, run "wtf ime" [02:56] :) [02:57] So, when udev detects hardware, how do you load the right module for that hardware? [02:57] I mean, how do you know which module/driver to load? [02:57] normally, it just loads it [02:57] snth: if modules aren't automatically loaded, that is a bug [02:58] snth: the system includes a big database of magic numbers vs. modules to load [02:58] What loads that module? [02:58] the only thing the user needs to do is possibly configure the system to use it, like adding a NIC and assigning the IP address [02:58] or adding a disk and specifying a mount point [02:58] If you get a very new piece of hardware, it might not be in the database yet. Then you need to edit /etc/modules by hand. [02:58] theoretically you should never have to load or unload modules [02:59] twb: where is that database in the system? [02:59] of course the world isn't perfect and some stuff doesn't work right out of the box, but for the most part, it works great [02:59] snth: a combination of /etc/udev/rules.d and /etc/modutils.d, IIRC [02:59] snth: udev mainly says things like "oh, a sata disk! I'd better load SATA disk support." [02:59] Some of it is also handled within the kernel itself, I imagine. [03:00] but that's precisely the point [03:00] twb: hmm ..that behavior of udev is what kuduz does. [03:00] trying to setup virtual users in vsftpd is giving me a headache... [03:00] while in redhat you use kudzu, in ubuntu, it just works, and you never have to worry about it [03:00] snth: then kudzu is obsolete and useless. [03:00] :) fair enough. [03:04] hmm udev man page says that udevd receives uevents directly from the kernel if a device is added or removed from the system. qman__ So I guess this is how it just works :) [03:04] I wonder what module in the kernel sends these uevents. [03:21] twb: man hald this has the database I was talking to you about. [03:21] snth: hal is obsolete [03:21] snth: it's functionality has been absorbed by udev [03:21] hmm .. is this what is replaced by udev? [03:21] Oh OK. [03:22] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy [03:23] Unfortunately, other parts of hal are being replaced by devkit, which is reputed to be just as broken [03:24] Cool .. thanks. That's one more difference between rhel and ubuntu. Man, the list keeps growing :). [03:24] rhel 5 still uses hal [03:25] Ubuntu still uses hal too, for now [03:26] I haven't heard of any plans for redhat to change using HAL, yet at least. [03:26] Well, RHEL do tend to lag behind everyone else [03:27] Yeah. (fortunately/Unfortunately) all of our servers are RHEL. [03:27] Pick your flavour of cowboy :-( [03:28] My company pays a ton of money for RHEL support and we have never used it -- not even once. [03:28] Switch to CentOS, then [03:28] I wish it was up to me. [03:28] My sympathies. [03:28] Management still thinks that it is better to have support for the one time that we will need it. [03:28] I am still maintaining servers that run FC3 [03:29] heh [03:29] that is... a bad idea [03:30] Like you say: not my decision :-( [03:30] The problem with linux is it doesn't fail each week, it fails once every few years -- spectacularly. [03:31] So it's hard to convince management to fund a man-week to migrate to a newer release [03:31] snth: If you just want support for the one time you need it, support contracts for Ubuntu Server are a lot cheaper. [03:31] They'd prefer to spend a man-month fixing the spectacular failure while all the users mill around due to the unscheduled outage. [03:31] I rarely have problems with the kernel itself. It is usually the services on top that can/may crash. [03:32] snth: sorry, I meant GNU/Linux, not the kernel [03:32] ScottK: I wish Redhat have the same model. The problem is that all of our servers are RHEL for the last 9 or 10 years or so. [03:33] It doesn't seem that they have any plans on changing the platform. [03:33] As twb said, it doesn't break often, so they don't see why they may need to change to something else. [03:34] We need a routine-failure package [03:34] It makes stuff go wrong occasionally, and lets you configure the frequency and severity [03:34] haha .. then, they would think that you aren't doing your job right. [03:36] I actually remember seeing a package a bit like that, which was intended for vocational training of sysadmins (like the RHCE) [03:36] Maybe in a few years when ubuntu server gains reputation of stability and so forth, companies would start looking at it since it would be cheaper than redhat. [03:37] Yeah, when I was working on my RHCE we had some random scripts that just kinda mess with your system and you have to go figure out what happened. It was kinda cool. [03:39] haha "when [03:39] You mean "if" [03:39] No, I mean "when" :) [03:46] Are the ubuntu server maintainers/developers/commiters come to this channel or they have another room? [03:46] This is both for development and support [03:48] ScottK: thanks :) .. I am liking the discussions here so far. You guys form/have a good community in here. [03:48] snth: It's a distinguishing characteristic of Ubuntu in all it's flavors. It doesn't happen by accident. [04:28] * crohakon smashes head on vsftpd [04:39] crohakon: there's probably a #vsftpd [04:39] there is... [04:39] I had not thought about that... [04:39] =) [04:39] crohakon: what's the problem with vsftpd? [04:40] snth: he's trying to configure it [04:40] 14:00 trying to setup virtual users in vsftpd is giving me a headache... [04:42] I was just wondering .. I might be able to help. [04:43] snth: I was just telling you :-) [04:43] snth; Every guide I have tried those far has not worked. I just tried setting it up to use Mysql database for user/pass but that does not seem to work either. [04:44] those = thus [04:44] twb: I was kinda hoping for a bit more accurate description of the problem :p. [04:44] snth: fair enough [04:44] crohakon: what's your config file look like? [04:46] How is it that I send it to pastebin or what not from console? [04:47] crohakon: w3m hpaste.org [04:47] That's how I'd do it, anyway [04:47] There are little dedicated paste utilities, but I can't recommend one [04:48] pastebinit /etc/vsftpd [04:48] ahhh [04:48] there we go [04:51] http://pastebin.com/f477bf642 [04:52] crohakon: and you want mysql authentication only ? [04:53] yes [04:53] crohakon: first mistake is in line 27. Change this to NO. [04:54] okay, done [04:54] crohakon: and where exactly in this file do you try to authenticate against mysql? [04:55] I don't know... I was following a guide... I just did what it tells me to do... something to do with PAM? [04:58] /etc/pam.d/vsftpd contains the lines for accessing the DB I believe... [04:58] it shouldn't .. but can you show me the contents of that file. [04:58] Also do you have the package libpam-mysql? [05:01] I do now.. [05:02] sweet. have you created the database? [05:02] yes, it is created and I have users added already [05:03] crohakon: IM me, I need to send you config lines to add. [05:12] You realize that libpam-mysql only does one of the four pam bits, don't you? [05:13] (auth and not password/session/account, IIRC.) [05:14] twb: Yeah, that's how I am configuring it with crohakon now. It should suffice, right? [05:14] I don't know. [05:14] I am pretty sure that it should be fine. [05:14] I would never use mysql for anything. [05:19] =( [05:19] It just seemed like the easiest way... [05:25] mysql and easy don't belong in the same sentence [05:27] New bug: #470071 in vsftpd (main) "Listing use locale for date representation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/470071 [06:03] hey guys === ktk_ is now known as KurtKraut [06:04] qman__; I have worked with mysql for some time now... so I figured it would give me an advantage.... I was wrong. [06:12] That's like saying that you're been a plumber for five years, so you thought you'd make a sports jacket out of turds. [06:23] twb; I understand this now... but a few hours ago I was a tiny bit more ignorant... hehe. I am slowly working on curing that... one struggle at a time. [06:58] hello all [06:58] i get this error when ever i try installing mysql [06:58] errors were encountered while processing: fuse-utils, gvfs-fuse [06:58] I have a question about the Karmic EC2 image: are Linux Containers (lxc) supposed to work on it? When I try to use lxc-execute or lxc-start, I get "lxc-execute: failed to clone(0x2c020000): Invalid argument" === jussi01 is now known as jussi01_ [07:09] Classic: Installing mysql how, on what version of Ubuntu server? [07:09] jmarsden: i used sudo apt-get install mysql. the version is 9.02 [07:09] Classic: seems unconnected to mysql, though [07:10] ... [07:10] Classic: seems unconnected to mysql, though [07:10] Classic: Sounds like your apt-get database is inconsistent or otherwise unhappy? Try sudo apt-get -f install and then try the sudo apt-get install mysql again. [07:10] kblin: i get the same error when i uninstall mysql using sudo apt-get remove mysql [07:10] ok [07:11] I get the same kind of error [07:11] From running sudo apt-get -f install [07:11] Errors where encountered while processing: [07:11] fuse-utils [07:11] gvfs-fuse [07:11] Thanks to snth I can stop hitting my head against vsftpd.. [07:12] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg reutrned an error code (1) [07:13] Classic: OK...so it's *really* unhappy.. :( Did you get those two packages in some unusual way, or have strange issues installing them? [07:13] Alright guys -- having a long week :) gotta get some sleep. Later. [07:13] jmarsden: Wel I'm running on a VPS and I'm helping a friend install something. This was the very first command line I typed: sudo apt-get install mysql-server subversion binutils cvs cvsutils gcc gdb make libmysql++-dev libssl-dev libtool automake g++ [07:14] twb: mysql_pam supports auth and account :). [07:14] Classic: That doesn't really answer my question... did you try at some point to install fuse-utils or gvfs-fuse? [07:14] snth: righto [07:15] jmarsden: Nope. [07:15] Later [07:15] Classic: Did your friend, before you started helping? [07:16] jmarsden: No. [07:16] jmarsden: I was the very first who accessed it. Idk if its because I was using debian commands at one point >< (I am more familiar with debian than ubuntu so yeahh). [07:16] debian commands? [07:17] "apt-get -f install" is not a Debianism [07:17] It's a "I broke the system, please try to guess the fix for me"ism. [07:17] Classic: Both sudo and apt-get work the same way in both Ubuntu and Debian... so what did you or someone else *really* do here? [07:18] Classic: pastebin the *entire* output of apt-get -f install. [07:18] Classic: I suspect the real information about the problem is during the dpkg --configure -a step. [07:19] at least the fuse parts are not part of a plain server install [07:24] root@sfwebhosting:/# sudo apt-get -f install [07:24] Reading package lists... Done [07:24] Building dependency tree... Done [07:24] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [07:24] 2 not fully installed or removed. [07:24] After this operation, 0B of additional disk space will be used. [07:24] Setting up fuse-utils (2.7.4-1.1ubuntu4) ... [07:24] creating fuse group... [07:24] udev active, skipping device node creation. [07:24] Classic: Use pastebin please! [07:24] * Reloading kernel event manager... No /sbin/udevd found running; none killed. [07:24] [fail] [07:24] invoke-rc.d: initscript udev, action "reload" failed. [07:24] dpkg: error processing fuse-utils (--configure): [07:24] subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 [07:25] dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gvfs-fuse: [07:25] Classic, wtf?! [07:25] gvfs-fuse depends on fuse-utils; however: [07:25] Package fuse-utils is not configured yet. [07:25] dpkg: error processing gvfs-fuse (--configure): [07:25] dependency problems - leaving unconfigured [07:25] No apport report written because the error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure. [07:25] Errors were encountered while processing: [07:25] fuse-utils [07:25] gvfs-fuse [07:25] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [07:25] Sorry [07:25] http://paste-it.net/public/wd13eb3/ [07:26] If you are sure you don't need those packages, try removing them. [07:26] ok [07:28] that did the trick [07:28] thanks [07:30] Classic: No problem. [07:38] <__ruben> hm .. rebooted a jaunty router/firewall due to power maintainance .. now its ipv6 stack seems totally busted (cant ping link local addresses, radvd cant send packets, ..) [07:39] __ruben: you sure ipv6 came up at all? tried loading the module? [07:41] <__ruben> kblin: in jaunty its no longer a module [07:41] <__ruben> and i do see link local addresses, but they're tentative [07:42] __ruben: certainly is a module for me [07:42] <__ruben> kblin: on jaunty? [07:43] yeah [07:43] ubuntu armel port [07:44] though it's a beagleboard, your kernel might be different [07:44] <__ruben> ah .. ports (can) use different .config's [07:45] <__ruben> hmm .. attempt to boot previous kernel by altering menu.lst seems to have failed .. and the box is remote (at work) [07:46] __ruben: well, there's no official ubuntu kernel for my hardware [07:49] Dunno why you'd use Ubuntu on armel instead of Debian or Emdebian. [07:49] At leat armel is a first-class arch on Debian [07:50] not for the OMAP SOCs [07:50] Huh. [07:51] I'm using kirkwood here, so I guess I just assumed the OMAP targets were already supported [07:57] ssh ubuntu@stuff.com 'echo $PATH' ..... my $PATH variable is not fully set .... i added a couple directories to my PATH variable in .bashrc.... anybody know why ? [07:58] why doesn't .bashrc get read when running commands with ssh [07:58] <__ruben> perhaps it gets executed by sh instead of bash for instance [07:59] Passing a command to ssh will cause that command to be run in a sh shell on the remote host. [07:59] The only configuration file on the remote host that might be read in this circumstance is ~/.ssh/environment. This file is not read by default. [08:00] You can also configure sshd to allow, and ssh to send, additional environment variables. $LANG and $LC_* are typically in this list; $PATH is (for obvious reasons) not. [08:01] Additionally, if you control the script invoking ssh, you can simply do something like ssh x env PATH=z y [08:02] no it's running bash [08:02] the error is: bash: rake: command not found [08:02] so it's comming from bash [08:03] Hm. [08:04] Maybe it invokes your login shell -- I didn't think it did. [08:04] twb: ssh jonathan@localhost 'echo $SHELL' outputs /bin/bash, so it sure looks like bash is being run to me... [08:04] You're right, it invokes the login shell. [08:04] OK, this is even weirder [08:05] I changed my shell to /bin/sh on the remote host, and it's still using bash [08:05] Grr, NIS' ypchsh didn't do its job. [08:05] can i set PATH=$PATH:/opt/ruby19/bin:. in ~/.ssh/environment ? [08:06] TIAS [08:08] doesn't work [08:08] Did you enable environment? [08:08] how do you do that ? [08:08] PermitUserEnvironment Specifies whether ~/.ssh/environment and environment= options in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys are processed by sshd(8). The default is “no”. Enabling environment processing may enable users to bypass access restrictions in some configurations using mechanisms such as LD_PRELOAD. [08:08] quizme: try doing one of those path add commands as an export [08:08] ...from sshd_config [08:09] something like [08:09] ssh "export $PATH=$PATH:/SOME/PATH; commands" [08:10] med\weed: those should be single quots, and the leading $ is wrong, and ideally you'd use && instead of ;. [08:10] med\weed want to to configure it so that i don't have to do that every time [08:10] But I already suggested that approach: 19:01 Additionally, if you control the script invoking ssh, you can simply do something like ssh x env PATH=z y [08:12] how do I view a list of users in terminal? [08:12] getent passwd [08:13] who [08:13] thanks [08:14] goodnight [08:14] so i enabled PermitUserEnvironment [08:15] but in ~/.ssh/environment I put "duck=wow" but when i did locally: "ssh ubuntu@stuff.com 'echo $duck'" it was empty [08:16] twb: i know - like i said _something like_ [08:16] quizme: did you restart sshd? [08:16] its only for conceptual ~_~ [08:16] twb: no.... [08:17] twb: /etc/init.d/sshd restart like that ? [08:17] That will do, yes. [08:17] ssh, not sshd, actuall [08:19] i restarted ssh, but $duck is still the empty string [08:20] quizme: I give up. Ask #openssh [08:21] k [08:21] thanks [08:22] pretty tricky stuff [08:35] twb: it's set in /etc/environment [09:07] in order to use rsync between two machine, should one of them have rsync server (and thus a tcp port open) installed? [09:09] no [09:10] you can rsync over ssh i think [09:10] yeah [09:11] rsync -arvupz /source/folder --exclude-from '/from/here.txt' user@remotehost:/BackupFolder > /your/logfile.txt is what i use [09:12] shove it in crontab and you're done [09:12] thou bacula is fancier then rsync [09:23] or maybe BackupPC? which can also use rsync [09:51] hi there. i have to compress huge backups (>120GB). Some files are already compressed (rar, zip, tar.bz2 files), and i search for a way to get these files into an archiv file without double-compresse them. (i prefere 7z or tar.bz2) [09:52] in short words: is there a way to tell an archiv manager: Compress all Data except already compressed files, and put everything in a archive? (like a "do not compress these files" filter) [09:52] ? [10:02] in short words: is there a way to tell an archiv manager: Compress all Data except already compressed files, and put everything in a archive? (like a "do not compress these files" filter, but dont skip the files)? [10:04] you can tell archiver to udpate the archieve with the changed files [10:05] knecht: By definition a .tar.bz2 file is a single .tar file which is compressed using bzip2, so ... no, what you want can't be done with that archive format. [10:06] You could create a .tar file or all the already-compressed files, and a .bar/bz2 of everything else, maybe? [10:07] kwork: i know, but that does not help me out. i need to do full backups every day, and it tooks to long. i thought already compressed files don't need to be processed again. [10:07] knecht: Is the issue really CPU usage?? More likely the speed issue is that your backups are I/O bound, in which case trying to avoid compressing some files will not really help your speed. [10:07] jmarsden: to make two archiv is a way, but i will try to find a better one [10:08] knecht, try something like bacula [10:08] jmarsden: i have a raid, the cpu is for shure the problem [10:08] kwork: i take a look at bacula (never heard that before) [10:14] kwork: mabe the best way is to copy the already compressed archive every day, and update the clone . . . should work, or? [10:15] kwork: bacula is to big for my purpose [10:16] for me bacula is doing one full backup + incremental [10:16] from there [10:16] rather tehn taring whole world together and rsyncing it [10:16] i have move that that option [10:16] its pretty straightforward to set up aswell [10:16] knecht: If your backups are all on disk, use rsync to update them each day; something like rsnapshot could work well for you and is smaller/simpler than bacula [10:20] kwork: i agree, but my boss does not. There should be rotating full backups available of the last seven days. Not incremental cause he wants to be able to simply pick a backup via smba, and open it on his computer. So if it works, it is the way to go for me. [10:34] New bug: #469548 in samba "can't list smb shares" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/469548 [10:36] knecht, you can define rules [10:36] so that you make full backup weekly for exampel [10:36] and incremental otherwise [10:42] kwork: i also tend to do so, for now i had to do it like i mentioned. Thanks for your help! [11:06] Hello everyone. I'm trying to install pear auth_SASL in my ubuntu server, but after i do the install, it keeps saying that it is not installed. Can anybody help me please? Thanks. [11:07] root@neptuno:/# pear install auth_SASL [11:07] downloading Auth_SASL-1.0.3.tgz ... [11:07] Starting to download Auth_SASL-1.0.3.tgz (5,724 bytes) [11:07] .....done: 5,724 bytes [11:07] root@neptuno:/# pear list auth_SASL [11:07] `auth_SASL' not installed [11:07] root@neptuno:/# [12:09] Hi folks .. ubuntu server 8.04 LTS, fails to boot when a degraded raid happens [12:09] I understand passing the kernel option, "bootdegraded=true" .. should resolve this [12:09] but it seems to be ignored [12:10] any idea if kirkland fixes have been integrated into 8.04.2 ? [12:24] get during system installation the follwing message: file:///cdrom/pool/main/u/util-linux/bsdutils_2.16-1ubuntu5_amd.64.deb was corrupt. downloaded the image already twice. Any idea? Thnx. [12:27] joeD2: why do you need to install from the cd? [12:27] pmatulis: Where do you install from??? [12:28] joeD2: the internet [12:29] pmatulis: what is the command for that? Or do you have a link for a description? [12:29] joeD2: remove the cdrom line (or comment it out with a '#' mark) and then '$ sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude install bsdutils' [12:30] joeD2: the file is /etc/apt/sources.list [12:30] pmatulis: the system has not been up. it's during the groundsystem setup that I get the message. [12:31] joeD2: ah [12:31] joeD2: check the md5sum of the iso you d/l'd [12:32] pmatulis: how? [12:32] New bug: #470636 in libvirt (main) "virt-aa-helper fails to add copy-on-write images on apparmor profile" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/470636 [12:36] joeD2: '$ md5sum /path/to/iso' and then compare it to the mirror you d/l'd from, do a search for "ubuntu md5sum" === kosmic is now known as Windows7ucks [12:36] umm, how can I check when a user account was created? [12:36] by the date of their homediw? [12:36] *dir? [12:36] pmatulis: md5sum ubuntu-9.10-server-amd64.iso 14707e8847b9c9ba2dd1869fb5086e4f ubuntu-9.10-server-amd64.iso is the result. downloades from http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/ === Windows7ucks is now known as kosmic [12:41] pmatulis: found the md5 and it matches nevertheless I burned two cds (after two seperate downloads) and still got the sysm error. [12:44] joeD2: i recommend burning another cd but at a lower speed [12:45]