[00:01] vinnl, i have a question [00:02] Bring it :) [00:02] if i put the vista metacity on xubuntu [00:02] i cannot put the transparency ? [00:03] if i want that i will have to install compiz and emerald? [00:04] Wait, Metacity? [00:05] i mean if i want the "X, minimize, and maximize" with transparency, like u have it here http://www.23hq.com/23666/2871684_69ef00374fb872c43936b89a34ce437f_standard.jpg [00:06] Ah, yes, if you want it *with transparency* then you'll need to run Compiz [00:07] But there are Vista themes without transparency as well: http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Vista+Basic+Xfwm4?content=78371 [00:07] Or http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Vista+Aero+?content=75112 [00:08] :( vinnl but... me confuced. [00:08] ok..... i dont know how to say it in english.... [00:08] Tonno, if you're native language is Dutch then you can try that too ;-) [00:08] ok here i go [00:09] is spanish :) [00:09] Sorry, I don't speak Spanish ;-) [00:09] !es [00:09] En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [00:10] Hey knome :) [00:10] óla vinnl ;) [00:10] last night, i boot the xubuntu 8.10 live cd. and i click on applications, and the i click and setting [00:10] i then i click to the last option, that i dont remember the name ..... [00:11] but [00:11] i saw there that i can put the metacity with transparency, without compiz and emerald [00:12] if u give me. 13min, i can go the give u more detals. :S [00:12] Tonno, Metacity is the window manager of GNOME/Ubuntu, xfwm4 is ours [00:12] Well, I do really need to get to bed some time :P [00:14] I believe that did support compositing as well, and then might support transparency in its themes. As far as I know, xfwm4 doesn't support transparency [00:15] ohhh....... pleases vinnl give the 20min to look for the information that u required :S may i come back in 20min? [00:16] Tonno, hmm... I don't really want to give a guarantee. I could give you my email address [00:16] Ah whatever, I think I can spare another twenty [00:17] jajajajaja :P tonno@8u8.com ( msn ) [00:17] so then u can go :) [00:17] and sleep well [00:17] OK, if I go I'll add you on MSN :) [00:18] ok [00:18] brb [00:19] Hey guys, I think Xubuntu 9.10 is just great! [00:19] lumimies, good to hear :) [00:20] maybe the best Linux I've used [00:20] only few things suck: vlc, konqueror etc look UGLY [00:21] any idea why KDE apps look bad? [00:21] Yes, because they use a different toolkit, which means they can't use the themes made for Xubuntu's toolkit [00:22] yeah, got it, but on Kubuntu, gnome apps look fine i think [00:23] i mean why not even tolerable? [00:23] Hmm... Perhaps no Qt theme has been defined now? [00:23] Not sure which application KDE uses to select a theme, but you could try installing that [00:24] get an app which selects themes?? [00:24] Yeah, but Qt themes [00:24] any idea what the name might be? [00:25] Not sure, I suppose I could look for it [00:26] okay but I got to go soon.... [00:26] I just want to say that because Xubuntu is otherwise so GREAT why have something that is so so so very very ugly?? [00:27] I honestly think this should be fixed!!! [00:28] Yeah it sounds like a bug because at least they're tolerable for me [00:28] !bug [00:28] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [00:28] Looks like you need Qt4 settings [00:28] ok, i take a look at that sometime, i can live with it... [00:32] ok, thanks guys [00:33] yw :) [00:36] oh, one thing, i think i said just apt-get install konqueror on a fresh Xubuntu 9.10, should I get good lookin Qt stuff? [00:36] I suppose so [00:37] ok [00:41] Hmm... I wouldn't mind at all if Tonno came back now :P [00:41] vinnl i'm installing xubuntu with acpi=off, noapic, nolapic, nomraid, without that i would see "kernel panic" [00:44] Devastator, and, is it going well? [00:45] vinnl so far, so good [00:45] Nice :) [00:45] i will suffer with my ethernet pcmcia card later.. it won't detected [00:45] opss [00:45] detect === Revenger is now known as Black_Prince [01:02] vinnl, back [01:02] Finally :) [01:03] :P [01:04] me sending u a file [01:04] Ah hmm [01:04] Sorry I clicked it away, can you send it again? [01:04] ok :) [01:04] (I never knew you could send screenshots through IRC) [01:05] there it is [01:06] Ah, yes [01:06] ill tell u wat i did [01:06] But that's transparency of the windows, not of window borders [01:06] Oh no wait [01:07] Hmm [01:07] i can see the borders tranparency there [01:07] But it looks like that makes the whole border transparent. You could use that, I suppose [01:07] and the driver is vesa generic :S [01:08] I don't get if ipv6 is such a problem, then why are we using it so much? [01:08] is this kind of like chicken and egg scenario? [01:08] u think that it will work with ur theme vista? [01:08] Yeah it should work, not sure if it looks good, you'd have to try it [01:08] I believe because ipv4 is running out of IPs, but I wouldn't know [01:09] ok... i gonna bookmark u site :) [01:09] Hehe... I need to write something there again some time :P [01:10] i believe that u can go to sleep now man... sorry for bother u :(.... thanks for ur time :) [01:10] vinnl, I see. That's right. I forgot about that one. It's just that ipv6 isn't implented as well as it should be, so for some people it creates problems. [01:10] Tonno, hehe no problem [01:10] I think it's better to just change DNS servers. [01:10] Yeah I'm really not up to scratch on it, I hope knowledgeable people will fix it :P [01:10] Like the Ubuntu developers ;-) [01:14] OK then I'm really off to bed now, later [01:19] shoot, he left. It's not just an OS problem. It's one of those chicken/egg scenarios. It's a server/OS/people/business problem... [01:20] it's really (probably) up to MS to fix it. They've got the dominate share.. [01:21] the thing is in Karmic ipv6 isn't a module so you must pass info to the kernel in order to fix it. [01:21] damn.. [01:22] i would like to help u ron_o but idontknow to much english and i dont know what are u talking about :( me sorry [01:25] Tonno, that's alright (about english)... I wish I knew your languange instead... [01:25] prtc.net?Where? [01:28] Puerto Rico Telephone Company [01:28] i know English ( no much ) Spanish 100% jejeje and Arabic. [01:30] wow, Arabic. Where'd you learn that? [01:30] Spanish is good. I hear Italian is very much like it. [01:33] I bet you it's the dns server [01:37] i know arabic because i learned from my seft. reading books and stuff in the lenguage. [01:39] seft? teacher? [01:40] if a teacher make me learn it? [01:40] no [01:40] myseft [02:05] 'seft' and 'myseft' haven't any meaing in english. [02:05] oh... 'myself'... :) [02:06] 'I see. You learned it yourself... :) [02:06] jajajajaas i said... i dont know to much english :D [02:06] :) [02:06] :P [02:06] your english beats my spanish. [02:06] :P [02:07] no speako spanish..:) [02:07] speako? [02:07] :P [02:07] in english, we jokingly put vowels at the end of words to act like we know another languange. It's cultural. [02:08] it's imitative of italian. [02:08] ohhh :P jejeej yeah [02:09] no se hablo spanish. [02:09] I took spanish in highschool. [02:09] but, damn. Takes too long to speak it. [02:09] corection: No se hablar Español :) [02:09] hehe. :) [02:10] dude... come to puerto rico. u wiull learn spanish in 4 month [02:10] :P [02:10] :) [02:10] I will learn the languange of money quicker. [02:10] my spanish teacher told us that if you don't command the spanish languange enough you will be taken to the market. :) [02:11] = stolen from. [02:13] actually, that was in South America/Mexico and not Puerto Rico. :) [02:13] ohhh ok :) [02:14] Honestly, i dont like spanish :S [02:14] my fav lenguage es Arabic :) [02:15] because is wierd writing, reading it, and speaking it [02:17] weird is right.. Cyrillic? [02:20] what is Cyrillic? [02:26] an alphabet derived from the Greek alphabet and used for writing Slavic languages (Russian, Bulgarian, Serbian, Ukrainian, and some other Slavic languages) [02:26] I was wrong.. [02:26] I thought that Arabic was Cyrillic. It isn't. === _Techie_- is now known as _Techie_ [02:38] !ops [02:38] ops is HELP! gnomefreak, tonyyarusso, PuMpErNiCkLe, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, mrpouit, Myrtti, PriceChild charlie-tca or cody-somerville [02:43] !ops [02:43] ops is HELP! gnomefreak, tonyyarusso, PuMpErNiCkLe, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, mrpouit, Myrtti, PriceChild charlie-tca or cody-somerville [02:55] "set up users and passwords" is giving "installation step failed", how can i fix it? [03:01] <_Techie_> check that your installation cd is not damaged and try again [03:03] ron_o, sorry about late. i was play9ing armagetron :) [03:13] _Techie_ unfortunately it's not damaged [03:23] good grief, which repo must I add to install skype? [03:50] Night, world. [03:52] I think this is a bug. Everytime i open windows, There is no border and windows do not appear in the bottom window list [03:53] I can't even move any windows [03:54] <_Techie_> Legendre, skype is not available from the repo's however they do offer a .deb on their website [03:55] <_Techie_> dbdii407, sounds like your window manager isnt working, try launching xfwm [03:55] <_Techie_> might be called xfwm4 [03:55] TY! [03:56] <_Techie_> dont thank me untill it works [03:56] It is working now [03:56] <_Techie_> kk [03:56] But will i have to do that everytime on boot? [03:57] <_Techie_> well, if you want to reboot then come back in here and if it doesnt load on boot i can guide you through having it start [03:57] Actually. Mind telling me that. Now that I remember. I did restart and it still wasn't there. [03:58] <_Techie_> gimme a minute to boot into linux, im currently in windows [03:58] There's also another problem. At times, I can't click on anything with my mouse. I usually have to replug it to make it work [03:59] This has been a problem in past releases for me also. [04:01] <_Techie_> okay, im in ubuntu now [04:04] hi [04:04] i have a problem, i cant setup dual monitor [04:04] on an acer travelmate 2355 [04:08] facepalm.jpg [04:12] <_Techie_> okay, im back [04:12] <_Techie_> dbdii407, you can add the command int the file "/etc/gdm/PostLogin/Default" you will most likely have to create it first though [04:28] _Techie_, Created. [04:28] i dont get dual head to work in xubuntu xfce, in gnome it works fine [04:29] <_Techie_> dbdii407, that should work, although it may not like the fact that that file is run as root, if so then we can prefix it with sudo [04:29] There's nothing in it though [04:29] Everything is commented [04:30] <_Techie_> yeah, create the file with xfwm4 [04:30] I totally know how to do that _Techie_ ;) [04:30] <_Techie_> sudo echo xfwm4 >> /etc/gdm/PostLogin/Default [04:32] bash: /etc/gdm/PostLogin/Default: Permission denied O_o [04:33] okay anyone who can help me with a dual monitor setup? [04:34] <_Techie_> uc, pastebin the output of xrandr please [04:34] What the hell [04:34] O_o [04:35] That command... Will not go through [04:35] <_Techie_> dbdii407, you wanna know something freaky, my /etc/gdm/* folders have gone [04:36] http://pastebin.com/m28832a1e <- everything fine there [04:36] <_Techie_> you want VGA on the left or right? [04:37] vga left, other one right [04:37] <_Techie_> kk, [04:37] already gave xrandr a try, dunno if my command was right tho [04:37] <_Techie_> xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768 --left-of LVDS1 [04:37] <_Techie_> that should do the trick [04:40] okay and when i reboot or relogin? should i put that into startup commands? or is it automatically right then? [04:40] <_Techie_> oh whoops, haha my /etc/gdm/* folders arent gone ROFL, i didnt realise im still ssh'ing my australian server [04:40] lol [04:40] <_Techie_> uc, chuck it into your startup commands [04:41] techie okay right, thank you [04:41] <_Techie_> no problem [04:41] trying to install xubuntu again, attempt #5 [04:41] _Techie_, About the "Permission Denied" thing? O_o [04:41] testing, brb [04:42] <_Techie_> umm, dbdii407 the other alternative is to do what uc is most likely doing and put it into your startup commands via the session config in the preferences menu [04:42] The easy way. :P [04:42] Ok [04:43] <_Techie_> i just like to have things load as early as possible, my dual head setup initialises before i even log in [04:43] <_Techie_> even though the login window will only ever show on one screen [04:44] i spent all day trying to install linux again.. it shouldn't gave me so much trouble :| [04:49] xUbuntu? [04:49] How are you installing it? [04:50] I had Installation issues with last release. I had to skip the LiveOS part. [04:50] <_Techie_> 9.10 is still very itchy, i would wait untill 9.10.1 or .1 till you depend on it [04:51] <_Techie_> i take it that uc got his dualhead setup working [04:52] dbdii407 first time i couldn't pass network hardware detection, gave me kernel panic [04:52] then "installation step failed" under set up users and passwords [04:52] then "installation step failed" under configuring packages [04:52] <_Techie_> Devastator, how new is your hardware? [04:53] _Techie_ that's the thing, veeeeeery old, but i'm using alternate cd [04:53] <_Techie_> might be that some of your hardware is unreliable [04:53] <_Techie_> i would start by trying a different CD-ROM drive [04:54] it's a laptop :S [04:54] <_Techie_> bugger [04:54] yep [04:54] <_Techie_> i guess it doesnt support booting from usb [04:54] i know what you mean, indeed [04:54] no, it don't [04:54] but has usb [04:54] one 1.1 usb port :D [04:54] very nice [04:54] <_Techie_> dnag, then we coulda taken the whole cdrom drive outta the picture [04:55] <_Techie_> brb [05:01] <_Techie_> back [05:02] <_Techie_> Devastator, when you checked your cd, did you just look at it for scratches or did you run the cd check thats ont he cd? [05:02] cd checks, md5 check on the iso [05:02] all covered [05:03] <_Techie_> wow, you even did the md5 check, even i dotn do that [05:03] i was trying to isolate the problem [05:03] my first cd was bad [05:03] <_Techie_> but then again, ive never come across such a problem on any of my machines [05:04] <_Techie_> i would suggest just keep trying to install [05:05] is it normal to take long to pass "storing language"? [05:05] <_Techie_> im not sure [05:07] all i want is a lightweight system :| [05:09] <_Techie_> if you want a really lightweight system use the debian netinst disc and just download the things that you want [05:09] my nic is pcmcia and isn't detect automatically [05:09] <_Techie_> aah, thats a bitch [05:10] yeah.. you know.. [05:11] <_Techie_> what year is this laptop? [05:11] 2001 or so [05:11] <_Techie_> odd, my 2000 mac laptop has built in ethernet and wireless [05:12] remember that you live in a first world country [05:12] not third :) [05:12] <_Techie_> yes, this i know [05:12] my 2001 laptop was probably manufactured in 1998 [05:12] lol [05:13] <_Techie_> your from brazil? [05:15] <_Techie_> welcome back sancas [05:15] yes i am [05:15] hi [05:18] Anyone around? [05:19] <_Techie_> no, were all sleeping and smoking pot [05:19] <_Techie_> just kidding [05:19] <_Techie_> yeah, we are here [05:20] Oh crap, guess you'd have no idea on how to solve my websites-dont-open-but-ping-works problem :/ [05:20] Funny thing is it worked for just a few seconds [05:20] <_Techie_> hrmm, sounds like it should be a simple fix but i cant think of what it is [05:20] and then it went down [05:21] <_Techie_> might you have gone past your bandwidth allowance? [05:21] Nah, other OSes on the same machine work fine, and I'm chatting right now from another PC on the same router [05:21] <_Techie_> kk, so that cancels out "a greater power" [05:21] lol [05:22] Anyways, whether I connect using WiFi or ethernet, it makes no difference [05:22] and this is a fresh install [05:22] <_Techie_> have you checked your network settings? [05:22] <_Techie_> make suer your gatways adress is correct [05:22] yeah it is right [05:22] <_Techie_> are you able to reach sites by using their ip? [05:23] nope [05:23] but ping works both by IP and name [05:23] <_Techie_> truly bizzare [05:23] <_Techie_> that cancells out DNS and network blocking [05:23] <_Techie_> i take it you only have one network connection up on this machine? [05:24] yeah [05:24] hmm wait something funny is going on [05:24] pings to anything other than google dont seem to work.. [05:24] tried pinging aol and I get "packet filtered" [05:25] pinging microsoft and it's just stuck [05:25] stuck at "lb1.www.ms.akadns.net" [05:25] <_Techie_> ms has been going shit lately [05:25] hmm ubuntu.com resolves and pings properly.. [05:26] <_Techie_> are you able to open the page at ubuntu .com? [05:26] still not able to open the website though [05:26] ^ [05:26] <_Techie_> excuse my language, but thats fucked up [05:26] Lol you took the words right out of my mouth [05:27] I had this on the release day thought it was a messed up install so I did a reformat and tried and its the same .. [05:28] <_Techie_> karmic seems to be having alot of bugs [05:28] <_Techie_> i suggest sticking with jaunty untill the .1 or .2 release of karmic [05:30] Yeah, I've heard that before.. always laughed it out, saying heck even the betas were pretty stable [05:33] <_Techie_> brb, tea [05:33] <_Techie_> back [05:33] tea? you're probably from uk :P [05:34] <_Techie_> NZ [05:34] nice [05:34] <_Techie_> +12 hours GMT [05:34] Yeah, thats another issue [05:34] karmic messes up my time [05:34] I choose GMT+12 but its like 12 hours ahead? [05:35] Can't change the time from the GUI, have to use the date command [05:35] <_Techie_> make sure your bios clock is set correctly [05:35] <_Techie_> and that karmic know what timezone your bios clock is set to [05:35] Yes and yes [05:47] <_Techie_> ello knome [05:47] morning [05:51] Another weird thing: the full install doesn't detect my nvidia card but the live CD does! [05:52] I mean, the live cd prompts "restricted drivers are available" but I don't get this in the full install... [05:52] <_Techie_> bizzare, i would roll back to jaunty [05:52] <_Techie_> welcome back bal [05:52] <_Techie_> how goes the work on the puppy machine? [05:53] <_Techie_> time for a quote - "Does light even EXIST when the refrigerator door is shut!?" [05:53] Yeah, this is way too off-putting. I think its time to give the green lizard a spin... [05:53] yo T [05:53] <_Techie_> sup B dawg [05:54] Xed, you should run 'jockey' after installation [05:54] * _Techie_ is gonna stop now, hes scaring himself [05:54] Xed, it will tell if you really need any drivers [05:54] playin w pup and xubu [05:54] knome: but how come the live-cd doesn't need it? [05:55] <_Techie_> Xed, the livecd is obviously running it fine [05:55] Xed, live-cd and full installation try to use some drivers automagically [05:55] Xed, do you mean that? [05:55] I mean the full install doesn't show the prompt at all, and it's definately not using the nVidia drivers.. [05:56] Xed, then run jockey [05:56] Okay, will do.. [05:56] And any clues on the net issue? [05:56] or applications -> system -> hardware drivers [05:56] Xed, sorry can't follow that far. i have to go in minutes. i hope someone can help you [05:56] <_Techie_> knome, he was reffering to the fact that the livecd was auto prompting him with jockey, yet his installed system wasnt auto prompting [05:57] <_Techie_> ill take over if need be knome [05:57] _Techie_, if you can, sure [05:57] i have no idea why installation doesn't prompt.. [05:58] "storing language" -> 30 minutes or more and counting [05:59] see you all later -> [05:59] <_Techie_> ciao knome [05:59] -> Hardware Drivers .. nothing happens [06:00] "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system" [06:00] okay I think I'll stop now before I flood this window with more issues :P [06:01] <_Techie_> nah, dont worry this channel has seen worse [06:01] like mine :| [06:01] <_Techie_> no [06:01] <_Techie_> im helping bal alot of the time [06:02] <_Techie_> hes currently in a distro hopping phase [06:03] <_Techie_> Xed, once again roll back to jaunty, that should solve 80% of your problems [06:03] I know.. but that's not a solution [06:04] <_Techie_> yes it is [06:04] _Techie_ you are the very first guy that recommends that, others say stick with 9.10 and wait for updates [06:04] <_Techie_> Devastator, if you stick with karmic and wait for the updates, then during that time you left with a non working system [06:05] <_Techie_> Xed, solution - The method or process of solving a problem. [06:06] <_Techie_> rolling back to jaunty fits the definition of a solution [06:07] Well I guess you can't argue with the definition :P [06:08] <_Techie_> brb, booting windows [06:10] <_Techie_> back [06:11] wb [06:11] how come you change os without quitting? [06:11] <_Techie_> ty Xed [06:12] <_Techie_> im sneaks [06:12] <_Techie_> sneaky* [06:12] <_Techie_> btw Devastator your the first person to ask that [06:13] Well not many people have heard of BNCs ;) [06:13] vmware i suppose [06:13] oh, right [06:13] <_Techie_> nice call Xed [06:13] forgot that [06:13] <_Techie_> i run 2 [06:13] <_Techie_> one one my own network and one in australia [06:14] <_Techie_> and a 50 line buffer on each [06:15] <_Techie_> if you ever want a bouncer i can set you up with an acc on my australian one [06:17] Oh, sweet. I'll call you on that one of these days.. [06:17] anyone help me downloaded xubuntu 9.10 came to intall it got as far as 3of6 set the k/board clicked forward it jumped to 4of7 the partition manager but the was just a large white box uable to set the partition had to restart and reintall 9.04 any one any ideas [06:17] <_Techie_> i got auto nickserv id, auto away on last client disconnect and auto name changer [06:18] excuse the typos [06:18] <_Techie_> Tesssa, multiple users have had a problem with the partition manager not showing, unfortunately as of this time i am not sure if theres a fix or a workaround [06:19] <_Techie_> have you tried partitioning using gparted and telling the install to uyse the pre existing partitions? [06:19] ah thank you Techie at least you answered me appreciated [06:20] i think i will wait untill the april release 2010 comes out [06:21] i xperienced that...it was because i hadn't done a few steps that occur 1st [06:21] even trying the upgrade route doesnt work [06:21] well when it jumps from 3of6 to 4of7 you cant do the steps inbetween [06:22] up to 3of6 the steps had been done [06:23] Tesssa: maybe you should try the alternative installer version [06:23] that has a command line graphic installer, and proven for me to be more stable [06:23] than the X version [06:23] when i was in gparted the partiton option was not in bold print..so i clickd on everything else until i was litereally drwing the size of the partition...then after dividing them up the partition thing lit up [06:24] _Techie_ i know one thing, i will have nightmares with ubuntu 9.10 alternate installer :P [06:24] thanks but no i will wait untill the 18month version comes out in april 2010 [06:25] Tesssa: do as you please [06:25] will carryon using 9.04 i do love that [06:25] and thanks everyone for your suggestions [06:26] Your very welcome ^_^ [06:29] the gparpted was poorly written in my mom tech opinion..it assumes you know something, which caused me problems, so i fixed it by clicking every possible option. then i noticed there was a rectangle in front of me, i had to click on the tabs on the sides of the rrectangle and "draw" the partition, but it never told me that was how it was done, stumbled on it by chance [06:29] looking on #ubuntu seems to be a lot of bugs in ubuntu 9.10 [06:30] mom=non [06:30] any bye for now and once again thanks [06:30] <_Techie_> cya Tesssa [06:32] hey _Techie_now that i have this pupyracer goin...i wanna dump the xp i threw in behind it, do you know how to toss an OS out after the fact? [06:33] cause mr gates is gonna boot me in 28 days anyhow [06:33] <_Techie_> well, presuming that it doesnt rely on xp for anything, you could just remove and resize your partitions [06:33] Hello [06:34] <_Techie_> hello justin_ [06:34] whoah thats a presumptive statement alright maybe it is feeding on the xp.... [06:34] if is is i cant see it happening [06:34] yo justin [06:34] <_Techie_> Balsaq, delete the xp partition adn resize then run the grub installer [06:35] Hey everybody! I've been working on a Dell Inspiron 1720, and can't seem to get the webcam to work, the microphone does, but the webcam is a no-go. [06:35] I've searched the forums but not much has seemed to help - I have cheese installed and I'm running Xubuntu 9.10 [06:35] <_Techie_> *sigh* another karmic user [06:36] lol [06:36] <_Techie_> pastebin the output of lsusb please [06:37] karmic certainly has earned some bad karma :D [06:37] <_Techie_> "karmic has earnt some bad karma'c" [06:37] working great for me :L [06:37] <_Techie_> you must be one of the few Sysi [06:37] Bus 001 Deice 002: ID 05a9:2640 OmniVision Technologies, Inc. 0V2640 Webcam [06:38] in two laptops :) [06:38] sorry, it wouldn't let be copy/paste [06:38] ask me if installer is working ok :| [06:38] <_Techie_> justin whats your username that your logged in as? [06:38] I'm logged into my own username - not root. [06:39] Justin is the username [06:39] <_Techie_> with caps? [06:39] nope - all lowercase [06:39] <_Techie_> lsusb >> /home/justin/Desktop/lsusb.txt [06:41] ok its written [06:42] <_Techie_> now just slap that into pastebin [06:44] sure, just a minute [06:44] <_Techie_> actually dont worry [06:44] ok [06:45] <_Techie_> heres the driver you want to install, not sure if its in the repo's or not [06:45] <_Techie_> http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ [06:46] I've checked this and I know the Linux-UVC's have the driver in it but I havn't found them in the repositories - any idea's on how to install it on Xubuntu? [06:47] you can try to download the .deb and dpkg -i it [06:48] ok - I'll try that - downloading the files now [06:54] <_Techie_> ill be back [06:55] k _Techie_ [06:56] ok [06:56] ok [06:56] ! [06:57] <_Techie_> back [06:59] Hey [07:00] did u ever leave _Techie_ [07:00] almost done installing prerequisites to compile Linux-UVC drivers [07:00] <_Techie_> !bnc | an0nmat1r [07:00] Sorry, I don't know anything about bnc [07:01] huh? [07:01] o o u on bnc [07:01] <_Techie_> yeah, 2 to be precise [07:01] i menat the afk and back time was 1 min i guess [07:02] so i asked were u ever gone [07:02] <_Techie_> yeah, i often go do chores around the house === jussi01 is now known as jussi01_ [07:03] i see yur busy...quick question sir _Techie_? [07:03] <_Techie_> fire away first mate Balsaq [07:04] i deleted the partiton that xp was in, i now have puppy alone in ext3 at 3.5g...out of 10...do i just leave or am i supposed to leave an empty built partiton [07:05] <_Techie_> i reccomend allocating that spare space to the puppy partition [07:05] ok make it all one big puppy [07:06] one big puppy partition correct [07:15] Ok so after fiddling with linux-uvc for a while - I found out the instructions for compiling it were dated, so does anybody know how to comile the latest Linux-UVC drivers? [07:17] compile* === an0nmat1r is now known as mat|afk [07:22] justin_ is there an INSTALL file? [07:23] yes [07:24] nano INSTALL [07:24] :P [07:25] lol well I have done that and I did the make install Makefile command it says but forgot at the top it says to do make all [07:26] so now it's performing the Make all command and its working [07:26] :) [07:26] ha I was wondering why I kept getting errors1 [07:28] Ok well it says, "make: *** [all] Error 2 [07:28] " [07:33] and the line above that? [07:34] make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/justin/Downloads/uvcvideo/v4l' [07:35] the directory exists if that's a concern [07:38] hello [07:38] justin_ i can't help you as i don't have a linux machine to reproduce your problem [07:38] MaxFrames hello [07:38] Ok well I'll keep searching Google, thanks! [07:39] I have disabled the users' list in the logon screen (9.10), but there is still a useless "logon" button which I have to click before I can type the credentials: do you know how to disable that button as well? [07:40] Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, [07:41] http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Download, Do [07:41] http://paste.ubuntu.com http://paste.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntu.com/support http://www.ubuntu.com/support http://www.ubuntu.com/support Share Download, Share https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage http://paste.ubuntu.com http://paste.ubuntu.com http://paste.ubuntu.com https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage [07:41] !!!! [07:42] <_Techie_> MaxFrames, unfortunately i havent had any experience with the logon system of karmic [07:44] I'm under the impression that Canonical is pushing to make *ubuntu the "linux for the rest of us" but I'm afraid they will end up disappointing pro users [07:45] <_Techie_> they already have [07:45] having a users' list displayed by default at logon removes 1/2 of the logon security in a public environment [07:46] <_Techie_> and having a a recovery mode by default wipes clean any other security [07:51] yep, because the user's list IS THE thing to get if you wanna hack into a linux system [07:52] and they're giving it i suppose [07:56] <_Techie_> Devastator, actually the thing you want is the recovery console, aka insta root [07:59] _Techie_ are you in ubuntu channel? [07:59] <_Techie_> yes [07:59] hmm [07:59] and laughing about sentences like this one? i have a problem... [08:00] problem and 9.10 in the same sentence :P [08:00] <_Techie_> i should make a bot that counts the amount of times people start sentences using "i have a problem" [08:00] Devastator: in the long run, it starts to be annoying if people just keep on saying they have a problem and not just tell it [08:01] knome_work i know what you mean [08:01] exactly [08:01] i was making fun about latest ubuntu release [08:01] _Techie_: hah, just write a few lines of perl and load it as a script ;) [08:01] if you see the forums, lot's of "problem" topics [08:02] Devastator: it's true that 9.10 is not as good as 9.04, atleast for xubuntu [08:02] but lots of SOLVED as well [08:02] sure [08:02] imagine what the guys at NASA must have thought when apollo 13 called back from space [08:02] people don't like to read [08:02] "houston, we have a problem" [08:02]