[00:01] <Shoshana> There is possible like in windows 7 (mini preview / eliipse tabs) example : http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8396/74754754858.jpg
[00:05] <prower> anyone else having issues with kdenlive in karmic? in my case at least it's crashing whenever i try to play a clip in any of the preview "monitors"
[00:05] <prower> (worked fine in 9.04)
[00:09] <lindomar> alguém sabe me dizer como faço para usar internet no kubuntu 8.10, entra mas não navega
[00:17] <amik> !es | lindomar
[00:19] <Huntz23> Question, while I was at work one of my family members accidentally close my console window, the kicker was I started a distro upgrade before I left, it was still downloading, any way for me to find out what is said before it got closed
[00:20] <jeiworth> !pg
[00:20] <jeiworth> amik: that was portuguese not spanish ;)
[00:20] <amik> jeiworth: I had a dilemma there :-)
[00:21] <jeiworth> hehe
[00:21] <amik> but figured it's readable enough to both, especially in that direction
[00:21] <jeiworth> yeah, it should be understandable to him
[00:21] <amik> and didn't know the pg letters ;-)
[00:21] <jeiworth> hmm my amarok is b0rk :(
[00:21] <jeiworth> *g*
[00:21] <n16h7f0x> after i installed my ati fglrx driver and xconfig yakuake popdown very very slow...any fix for this?
[00:24] <Shoshana> There is possible like in windows 7 (mini preview / eliipse tabs) example : http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8396/74754754858.jpg
[00:25] <jeiworth> Shoshana: no idea how it works in win7 but my kde gives me small previews when i hover
[00:26] <amik> me too. u need desktop effects enabled though (which is done by default, but may not run that way off a livecd I think)
[00:27] <jeiworth> ah yes
[00:28] <amik> Shoshana: r u using a live cd or full installation?
[00:29] <Shoshana> full
[00:30] <amik> do u have desktop effects enabled?
[00:30] <crazy6> what should I do if my dist-upgrade to 9.10 went very, very poorly?
[00:31] <Huntz23> anyone ever close a console window during update?
[00:31] <amik> Huntz23: no, that would be silly :-p
[00:33] <jeiworth> crazy6: try a sudo aptitude full-upgrade, if something goes wrong it will normally tell you what command to try next, iirc i had to do a dpkg --reconfigure -a
[00:33] <amik> Shoshana: check in system settings -> desktop that effects are turned on, and in the all effects tab that 'taskbar thumbnails' is selected
[00:33] <lindomar> obrigado
[00:34] <Huntz23> amik: I know its silly, but it happened
[00:35] <Huntz23> amik: I think my missus checked her email and closed it
[00:35] <crazy6> jeiworth: dpkg-reconfigure -a ?
[00:36] <amik> Huntz23: I'm not sure if running update-manager again will resume, it might work. if not there's a command to complete partial installation, I think apt-get install -f but not sure
[00:36] <jeiworth> crazy6: dont remember exactly, i had to cancel upgrade since the oo-faststarter applet wouldnt close, so i had to continue in the shell, when i tried to aptitude full-upgrade it told me to try a dpkg -something
[00:37] <amik> Huntz23: or dpkg-reconfigure -a, sorry I'm a bit unfocused at the moment
[00:37] <Huntz23> isn't there a command to give my the last output in the console
[00:38] <Huntz23> hmmm, let me see, cuase dpkg -configure -a didnt do anything it said that the database was locked
[00:39] <crazy6> jeiworth: hrm, ok, well, fullupgrade installed some more packages... lets try a reset...
[00:39] <amik> Huntz23: if it's locked, either the upgrade process is still running, or the lock needs to be cleaned up
[00:40] <amik> Huntz23: or some other instance of package management app is running
[00:40] <Huntz23> amik: she closed everything
[00:40] <Huntz23> I wonder what will happen if I restart?
[00:40] <Huntz23> do I do a release check it says I ahve hardy
[00:40] <amik> Huntz23: mmm.... I think u should try continuing upgrade without restart, just in case the system is in half-stable state or something
[00:41] <Huntz23> oi, that was a typo flurry, I meant I did a release check and it said I was in hardy, I started from gutsy
[00:41] <Huntz23> but the kernel didnt change, and wouldn't until restart right?
[00:41] <amik> apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't do anything either? or running update-manager?
[00:42] <Huntz23> well if it thinks I am in hardy will it try to go to 8.10?
[00:42] <amik> although, if you're sure it stopped while still downloading (before starting the installation), then ur safe, but restart probably won't gain u much, no?
[00:43] <Huntz23> right, but I am sure it finished downlaoding
[00:43] <amik> what happens when u try all the above commands?
[00:43] <Huntz23> becuase I started the upgrade from gutsy
[00:43] <hrvoje> hello everyone. am using Kubuntu Kermic and Debian Lenny. how can I connect those two computers wirelessly, and connect to the internet with one through another?
[00:43] <carpii_> id restart after a distupgrade, just to make sure it worked ok
[00:43] <carpii_> youve more chance of recovering from a bad upgrade to a single version, than if youve gone through 2 major versions and its fubarred
[00:44] <Huntz23> and now a now lsb-release tells me I am running Hardy
[00:46] <Huntz23> ok, 'sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade' give me this '  'E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
[00:46] <amik> Huntz23: it looks like there's an update-manager log file (actually /var/log/apt/term.log), if that's what u were looking for before
[00:46] <hrvoje> Huntz23: must be su (#)
[00:46] <carpii_> Huntz, check youre not running another terminal or running a gui package manager maybe ?
[00:47] <carpii_> and yeah, sudo
[00:47] <hrvoje> Huntz23: and yes, some other dpkg running
[00:47] <carpii_> hehe
[00:47] <amik> hrvoje: or maybe the lock remained locked when the update abruptly died, so u need to kill the lock and then u can start over
[00:48] <Huntz23> I dont see any others running
[00:48] <Huntz23> I only ahve one desktop running
[00:48] <carpii_> in ps aux ?
[00:48] <hrvoje> amik: yea more probably even, because it isnt' saying that couldn't lock dpkg, but /../lock
[00:48] <hrvoje> hello everyone. am using Kubuntu Kermic and Debian Lenny. how can I connect those two computers wirelessly, and connect to the internet with one through another?
[00:49] <Huntz23> arr
[00:49] <Huntz23> its was closed this morning at 9:14 hmmm
[00:49] <amik> I think u can just delete the lock file (sudo) and start over
[00:50] <Guest22277> hi i run feisty fawn and im thinking about doing the upgrade. if i choose the upgrade option from the adeptmanager program, will it upgrade to 8.04 and then ill choose it again to install 8.10 etc or does it upgrade straight to 9.10
[00:50] <Guest22277> ?
[00:50] <Huntz23> it will do nothing
[00:51] <amik> Huntz23: the locks are just there to prevent multiple package manager instances or GUIs from changing the system concurrently, which would be troublesome. if there's no such app running, it's just a leftover and u can delete it to free things up
[00:51] <Guest72419> Jabal al Lawz - ForLifesAnswers
[00:51] <hrvoje> Guest22277: # apt-get dist-upgrade (and make sure to have repos of new distro)
[00:51] <Huntz23> because fiesty is End Of Life Release
[00:51] <Huntz23> I just came from there, to gutsy and now to hardy
[00:52] <carpii_> when a version is no longer supported, they dont even provide the repos to upgrade ?
[00:52] <Huntz23> Guest22277: did you get that
[00:52] <Dragnslcr> Guest22277- you'd have to upgrade to each version in between. It would probably be easier to do a clean install
[00:52] <Guest22277> hrvoje: if i dist-upgrade will it just upgrade to the repos that i have in my sources.list?
[00:52] <n16h7f0x> ati driver made yakuake pop down very slow cand you advice this fix
[00:52] <n16h7f0x> ?
[00:52] <hrvoje> Guest22277: of course, it's his source of information
[00:53] <hrvoje> n16h7f0x: my Yakuake also isn't the fastest one :(
[00:53] <Huntz23> hold on, fiesty repo are old
[00:53] <hrvoje> n16h7f0x: you sure it's coz of drivers? i also have ATI ones
[00:53] <n16h7f0x> before ati driver installed worked instantly now has a lag and it's really annoying
[00:53] <hrvoje> n16h7f0x: it all work fine in KDE3, but in KDE4 it's slow
[00:54] <n16h7f0x> kde3+compiz=yakuake slow
[00:54] <n16h7f0x> 2
[00:54] <Huntz23> but if you like command line I ahve the page that I used to go from Edgy to Hardy
[00:54] <Guest22277> if i do a clean install of 9.10 on my feisty fawn box, will it upgrade all my packages or will it overwrite everything?
[00:54] <hrvoje> but KDE3 without compiz - yakuake works fine :)
[00:54] <crazy6> hrm dangit, flashplugin-nonfree is broken, and I can't uninstall or reinstall it
[00:55] <Brhad56> after upgrading to 9.10, everytime i login, i get a pop-up box from kresource migration tool.
[00:55] <n16h7f0x> hrvoje, so any suggestions to fix this "bug"
[00:56] <Guest22277> when i say overwrite everything, will it overwrite configuration files, my home directory etc, or is the 9.10 install smart enough to upgrade the distro and keep configuration files?
[00:56] <amik> crazy6: sometimes a dpkg-reconfigure helps it (for me, when I had these problems)
[00:56] <Guest22277> because id like to move to kubuntukde3karmic
[00:56] <Guest22277> as i dont really like kde4
[00:57] <hrvoje> n16h7f0x: no , sry
[00:57] <hrvoje> n16h7f0x: get rid of compiz :)
[00:57] <crazy6> amik: unfortunately, it just says that it is broken or not fully installed
[00:57] <n16h7f0x> hrvoje, don't have compiz
[00:57] <n16h7f0x> only ati driver installed
[00:57] <hrvoje> n16h7f0x: you have KDE3? on Debian it works fine with KDE3
[00:58] <n16h7f0x> kde4
[00:58] <hrvoje> and with ati drivers.. ok then it's KDE4, not ati drivers :)
[00:58] <amik> crazy6: and a repair also fails?
[00:58] <Guest22277> what i guess i mean, will the 9.10 distro cd upgrade an kubuntu installation or will it overwrite it?
[00:58] <hrvoje> anyone know how can I connect two computers (Kubuntu Kermic and Debian Lenny)?
[00:59] <Brhad56> define connect
[01:00] <hrvoje> Brhad56: wirelessly connect so I can go to net with one through the other (and share files if possible)
[01:00] <crazy6> amik: do I do that with apt-get? dpkg ?
[01:00] <hrvoje> Brhad56: the one which is already connected is connected via cable
[01:01] <Brhad56> hrvoje:  A wireless router is the easiest solution.
[01:02] <Huntz23> Amik: here is the pastebin from my intall log http://paste.ubuntu.com/308064/
[01:02] <hrvoje> Brhad56: not possible, not my network (but all is legal, don't worry)
[01:02] <amik> crazy6: maybe apt-get install -f (fix broken) will help
[01:02] <hrvoje> Brhad56: am in dorm
[01:02] <Brhad56> hrvoje:  Dorm won't allow wireless router?
[01:03] <Brhad56> hrvoje: how the fux do all the peeps with laptops use internet?
[01:03] <crazy6> amik: hrm, that doesn't work, dpkg returns error that package is in inconsistent state
[01:03] <hrvoje> Brhad56: don't have phone number here, and why? i heard it's possible to do what i want :)
[01:03] <hrvoje> Brhad56: via cabel
[01:04] <amik> crazy6: so maybe there's a dpkg option to clean up or repair
[01:04] <Brhad56> hrvoje: what does a phone number have to do with it?    What you're trying to do is possible, but I don't think its what you want.
[01:04] <hrvoje> Brhad56: we're connecting here through dashboard of a dorm
[01:04] <hrvoje> Brhad56: so you mean with some switch?
[01:05] <hrvoje> Brhad56: it ought to be the way to connect one computer to the internet through the another one
[01:05] <amik> Huntz23: what makes u think the upgrade didn't complete?
[01:06] <Huntz23> did you check my pastebin?
[01:06] <Brhad56> hrvoje: Yes, there is.  I don't know how to do it though.  I just don't understand why a router won't work.
[01:06] <hrvoje> anyone know how to connect one computer to the internet through the another one?
[01:07] <Huntz23> amik I dont know what it did
[01:07] <hrvoje> Brhad56: because why whould i buy a router when that's also possible
[01:07] <Huntz23> so if its locked and I remove the lock and its not done, what happens?
[01:07] <amik> Huntz23: "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place" is the last line printed when running an installation afaik.. and it says 'log ended' too which seems like a pretty graceful shutdown
[01:08] <hrvoje> how can I connect to Debian irc irc.debian.org here in Quassel?
[01:08] <amik> Huntz23: if this is the correct log, I'd guess it completed successfully :-)
[01:08] <Huntz23> yes and now that I read the timestamp amik, i think you might be on to something
[01:09] <Huntz23> because that was my last step before restart and doin the distro upgrade
[01:09] <Huntz23> if its locked there must a reason
[01:10] <Huntz23> I did upgrade and it dosnt allow that
[01:10] <n16h7f0x> is there any method i can get my original xorg.conf?
[01:10] <n16h7f0x> if i no longer have the file
[01:10] <Huntz23> Dpkg -config -a says its locked by another process also
[01:11] <hrvoje> n16h7f0x: try #dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[01:12] <hrvoje> how can I connect to Debian irc irc.debian.org here in Quassel?
[01:12] <amik> Huntz23: but u already checked that there's nothing relevant running, right? 'ps -e' and look for dpkg/apt-get/aptitude/update-manager/synaptic/adept/kpackagekit/whatever-package-manager-app-is-on-ur-system
[01:13] <Huntz23> ok hold on
[01:13] <n16h7f0x> hrvoje, doesn'twork
[01:14] <amik> Huntz23: if there's really no such app running, then just erase the lock file and run the update/upgrade again and see what it says
[01:14] <mime> hi, when dual booting and selecting kubuntu, it appears a creen like a shell and it says ''grub>'', and can't enter kubuntu
[01:15] <mime> thanx
[01:15] <mime> a screen
[01:15] <Huntz23> amik: here is the out put from that, http://paste.ubuntu.com/308071/
[01:15] <amik> mime: that's grub, the bootloader menu thing
[01:16] <dhillon-v10> hi all, I want to figure out how to clean residual config, in gnome we could go to synaptic manager and then status and then we would see the residual config. How do we do that in Kubuntu
[01:16] <mime> but i didnt touch anything
[01:16] <amik> Huntz23: there's a dpkg running there...
[01:17] <mime> what i have to put after grub>?
[01:18] <amik> mime: if all was well, you'd see the grub menu, or just boot into one of the systems, but it seems something is wrong... what changed in ur system? did it work before? did u upgrade? install?
[01:18] <Huntz23> Amik: your right I totally missed it
[01:18] <Huntz23> how the heck do I find that though
[01:19] <mime> no, in other  times, when that occured i find a trick, it consists in go to run>chkdsck (or something like that), and then after a bar arrives 100%, then i restart and goes, but no now
[01:19] <mime> any idea with ckdsc?
[01:20] <mime> today i erase my karmik koala, that has destroyed my jj
[01:21] <mime> not worked very well for me :O
[01:21] <amik> u erased karmic koala? what is your goal?
[01:22] <mime> bye and thnx
[01:22] <hrvoje> how can I connect to Debian irc irc.debian.org in Quassel?
[01:23] <amik> Huntz23: try ps -ef | grep dpkg
[01:24] <amik> Huntz23: what's the output?
[01:24] <Huntz23> holy crap
[01:25] <amik> Huntz23: let's not bring religion into this :-)
[01:25] <Huntz23> lol, working on pasteing
[01:27] <Huntz23> amik: here you go, http://paste.ubuntu.com/308079/
[01:28] <amik> Huntz23: anything interesting in /var/log/dpkg.log?
[01:28] <Huntz23> did you figure that paste out
[01:29] <amik> Huntz23: well, it's configuring a whole lot of packages from the upgrade :-)
[01:31] <Huntz23> ok, it looks similar to the other log that show a few pckages being configure and finished by 9:14
[01:33] <Huntz23> so is it because dpkg didnt finsih the upgraade that we have no log outputs from it?
[01:34] <amik> the command line shows it's writing the output to file descriptor 49... I'm trying to figure out how to find out which file that is (using lsof)
[01:37] <amik> Huntz23: I think it should be 'lsof -d 49', but i'm getting multiple results here... wierd
[01:37] <amik> try it
[01:38] <Deihmos> when  go to hardware settngs to enable my nvidia driver nothing ever happens
[01:39] <Deihmos> i click enable and nothing happens
[01:39] <Deihmos> is there something i could do
[01:39] <w0000t> restart X?
[01:40] <w0000t> or try manual install
[01:40] <Deihmos> sorry i don't know what that is
[01:40] <w0000t> from the nvidia site
[01:40] <Deihmos> the funny thing is it works ifne with ubuntu
[01:40] <Deihmos> in ubuntu when i click enable it works fine. with kubuntu it never works
[01:40] <w0000t> hmm
[01:41] <w0000t> what do you mean, "in ubuntu"
[01:41] <w0000t> gnome?
[01:41] <Deihmos> also with kubuntu it crashes when i try to change hard drive during installation
[01:41] <Deihmos> yes gnome
[01:41] <Huntz23> amik: it didnt output anything
[01:41] <Deihmos> kubuntu is buggy
[01:42] <amik> hmmm
[01:42] <amik> Huntz23: well, then I guess u can killl dpkg and maybe try to run it again
[01:42] <w0000t> sorry don't know about that, i never used the restricted drivers settings for my nvidia card as far as i know
[01:42] <w0000t> i just installed the drivers from the site and it worked fine
[01:42] <Deihmos> so how do you get the driver installe?
[01:42] <w0000t> nvidia.com
[01:42] <w0000t> downloads -> linux...
[01:43] <Deihmos> i am sure that requires a whole page of steps
[01:43] <w0000t> worked out of the box
[01:43] <w0000t> download it, save it somewhere
[01:43] <dibs> my numpad 0 has turned into 'insert' since koala upgrade. Any ideas how to fix??
[01:43] <w0000t> go to a text tty
[01:43] <w0000t> like alt-ctrl-f2
[01:43] <w0000t> login, change to root
[01:43] <Qu4Z> dibs: Turn off numlock?
[01:43] <Huntz23> amik: for tty it says pts2
[01:43] <w0000t> backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:44] <amik> Huntz23: huh?
[01:44] <w0000t> then stop the window manager (kdm)
[01:44] <dibs> Qu4z nope
[01:44] <Qu4Z> :-/
[01:44] <Huntz23> but bash and ps both show in pts3
[01:44] <w0000t> run the installer
[01:44] <w0000t> restart window manager
[01:44] <w0000t> that should do it
[01:44] <w0000t> if it fails and gui does not start up, restore xorg.conf
[01:45] <Huntz23> does that mean anything?
[01:45] <Qu4Z> dibs: Go into system settings => regional & language => Keyboard layout => Advanced, and have a look around there?
[01:45] <dibs> will do
[01:45] <Qu4Z> Maybe "default numeric keypad keys" or something
[01:45] <Deihmos> why couldn't ubuntu be like windows. click install and that's it
[01:45] <Qu4Z> ... it is for me :P
[01:45] <w0000t> ;D
[01:45] <Huntz23> when I did the ps -e is what I am referring to
[01:46] <dibs> what should my ketboard input mthod be set too?
[01:46] <Qu4Z> When I installed Kubuntu, it came up asking me whether I wanted nvidia 1.80, 1.74, or 0.96 (don't remember the exact versions)
[01:46] <w0000t> yeah sometimes it is a pain in the ass
[01:46] <Qu4Z> And I chose the recommended option, and ... boom, wobble
[01:46] <w0000t> talking about ati cards... x/
[01:46] <Deihmos> doesn't work for me
[01:46] <dibs> what should my keyboard input method be set to?
[01:46] <amik> Huntz23: that means it was running in a console. but it was redirecting dpkg status to file descriptor 49, but it seems from what u said that there's no such thing right now...
[01:47] <Deihmos> wel it works fine with ubuntu gnome but not kde
[01:47] <amik> Huntz23: so maybe it's time to kill dpkg and start it over
[01:47] <Qu4Z> It worked fine with kubuntu for me
[01:47] <Qu4Z> dibs: Where is this setting?
[01:47] <dibs> shit, I'm in gnome. doh
[01:47] <Qu4Z> Oh.
[01:47] <Deihmos> why does gnome have the nice ubuntu store and kubuntu has that ancient manager
[01:48] <Huntz23> oof, so is that 'pkill 22540'
[01:48] <Qu4Z> *blink* That'd explain why it doesn't work <_< Sorry, I should've guessed that one
[01:48] <Qu4Z> Although it *is* #kubuntu
[01:48] <Qu4Z> So in hindsight that assumption makes sense
[01:48] <Qu4Z> I suggest asking again in #ubuntu :P
[01:49] <dibs> sorry man, default room when I opened up konversation
[01:49] <w0000t> i never used kde
[01:49] <w0000t> -g-
[01:50] <Qu4Z> dibs: Well, you are using *K*onversation :P
[01:50] <amik> Huntz23: I guess (I use kill or killall but they're all the same I guess)
[01:52] <Deihmos> kde is so mch better than gnome but t doesn't seem to get much attention
[01:52] <Deihmos> kinda buggy
[01:52] <Qu4Z> I prefer KDE too (which is why I'm here, obviously)
[01:53] <Shoshana>  oh my god look http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/219/8867868.jpg  i cant do it faster? its metalink
[01:53] <Huntz23> amik: thanks, hopefully we dont get any broken packages out of it
[01:53] <Qu4Z> And I hate to say it, but KDE gets plenty of love. KDE4 is still new, so of course it's a little flaky, and Kubuntu is kinda lacking in love
[01:53] <amik> Huntz23: after u kill it, u can try running the command again (without the status-fd parameter)
[01:54] <amik> Huntz23: and with sudo of course
[01:54] <MaartenLx> KDE4 isn't THAT new anymore....
[01:54] <Huntz23> I did update && upgrade and it said to dpkg config -a
[01:54] <amik> Huntz23: then try it
[01:55] <Huntz23> I did
[01:55] <Huntz23> its picked up from where it left off it looks
[01:55] <Huntz23> crap samba server installs directly in 8.4?
[01:56] <amik> Huntz23: I hope all goes well... sorry for taking u thrugh some hoops, but I wanted to be sure...
[01:57] <amik> Huntz23: I've never killed an upgrade in the middle... that would just be silly :-)
[01:57] <Huntz23> oh, np, I was gonna apologize for jumping you through hoops, because I wasnted to be sure
[01:59] <amik> Huntz23: did it finish?
[01:59] <Huntz23> so when I get to config files and it says there are new ones but mine have been modified by me should I just take the new ones and if somethin is not quite right tweak it
[01:59] <Huntz23> no its askin be about samba.conf
[02:00] <Huntz23> its say the package maintainer has a new .conf, but mine has been nodified, keep mine or install new one?
[02:00] <amik> Huntz23: It's safer to take the new one and correct it later, hopefully not too much work. or u can diff and see if it really changed much
[02:02] <Huntz23> hmm, I dont even rember configuring samba..lol
[02:06] <amik> Huntz23: well?
[02:07] <Huntz23> its still workin
[02:07] <Huntz23> its just asked me about kdesktop
[02:08] <amik> Huntz23: same config questions?
[02:08] <Huntz23> yeah
[02:09] <amik> Huntz23: again, better to use the new ones unless u diff and know what ur doing :-)
[02:09] <Huntz23> so I am sure I am gonna loose my changing backgrounds
[02:09] <Huntz23> and my login splash screen, *sniff* all in the name of progress
[02:09] <Huntz23> laf
[02:10] <amik> Huntz23: u can always blame the mrs....
[02:10] <nikitis> How do you add auto channel joinings using quassel?
[02:10] <nikitis> I can't seem to figure it out
[02:11] <Huntz23> Amik: somehow I dont think that will fly
[02:11] <Huntz23> ha, the newer kernel has the locales problem fixed
[02:11] <amik> Huntz23: then consider it an opportunity for change :-)
[02:12] <Shoshana> i need help please , i cant resume my download (metalink) its stuck in 98% and stop !
[02:14] <Huntz23> amik: anythoughts on this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/308115/
[02:15] <amik> Huntz23: no idea... looks like a broken xml configuration file
[02:16] <amik> Huntz23: maybe u can try a dpkg-reconfigure on it later or somethig
[02:17] <NJL> how do I disable that annoyiing graphic that pops up when I switch desktops?
[02:17] <Huntz23> ok, its done, time to find out what it does, reatarting now, brb
[02:17] <Shoshana> i need help please , i cant resume my download (metalink) its stuck in 98% and stop !
[02:18] <Huntz23> and update upgrade will fix them or remove hem right
[02:18] <Huntz23> anyway brb
[02:18] <amik> Huntz23: sec
[02:18] <Huntz23> amik: eh?
[02:18] <amik> Huntz23: maybe just in case, make sure update&upgrade say there's nothing to do
[02:19] <Huntz23> before restart?
[02:19] <amik> Huntz23: yep (not dist-upgrade, just upgrade)
[02:20] <amik> u can also try that reconfigure on the failed one
[02:20] <Huntz23> its says 8 to remove and 2 not upgraded, continue y?
[02:20] <amik> Shoshana: can u start over?
[02:20] <Shoshana> amik : i strated and after half minute its stopped =/
[02:20] <amik> Huntz23: sure why not
[02:23] <Huntz23> amik: that is done now, see you on the flip side
[02:23]  * amik crosses fingers
[02:24]  * Huntz23 crosses his too
[02:24] <amik> Shoshana: sorry, dunno what to do
[02:25] <Shoshana> amik : i download aagain nevermind =/
[02:25] <Shoshana> there is Nokia Ovi for linux?
[02:26] <localnnuser__> does any one know if remastersys is already working for karmic?
[02:27] <nickiname> hello
[02:27] <nickiname> how to set the label of cd when using mkisofs?
[02:29] <amik> Huntz23: is this a good sign?
[02:30] <Huntz23> amik: looks good so far
[02:30] <amik> Huntz23: cool :-)
[02:31] <Huntz23> playing with firefox, seein if 3 is better than 2
[02:31] <Huntz23> and plan on stayin on a LTS distro for awhile...lol
[02:31] <amik> Huntz23: u been hiding in a time capsule or somethin?
[02:31] <Huntz23> this EOL stuff is for the birds
[02:32] <Deihmos> no matter what i do i can't get ubuntu to look as good as windows 7
[02:32] <Huntz23> well I ahd broken grub
[02:32] <Huntz23> left it for 1 and half or so
[02:32] <Huntz23> my first kubuntu was edgy eft
[02:33] <amik> Deihmos: then win7 is particualrly suited for your taste. keep using it!
[02:33] <Huntz23> by the time I came back we were on Hardy
[02:33] <Huntz23> or 8.10
[02:34] <Huntz23> so I had to EOL upgrade from edgy to fiesty, from fiesty to gutsy, and guts to here...lol
[02:34] <amik> Huntz23: edgy was my first too. but I only wiped out winxp around  intrepid
[02:34] <Huntz23> so yeah kinna hidin in a time capsule...lol
[02:34] <Huntz23> intrepid is 8.10?
[02:35] <amik> Huntz23: but I had fresh installs in between...
[02:35] <Huntz23> yeah, the mointain was there, so I climbed it
[02:35] <amik> Huntz23: if it's a new disk, or machine, or whatever... I take the opportunity to make it fresh
[02:36] <Huntz23> well I ahve had jsut the two drives
[02:36] <dixon_> hola soy juartbikalou
[02:36] <amik> !es | dixon_
[02:36] <Huntz23> 20 with kubuntu and an 80 with xp on it
[02:36] <amik> Huntz23: 20 as in 20mb?
[02:37] <Huntz23> 20gig
[02:37] <amik> Huntz23: I say, this christmas, get urself a treat :-)
[02:37] <Huntz23> I should
[02:37] <Huntz23> but then I would have to start a fresh install with a new drive
[02:38] <Huntz23> but I would really love to let linux run a bit more
[02:38] <amik> I'm on a interpid->jaunty right now, considering how to proceed with karmic... got servers here and stuff so don't want breakage or too much downtime
[02:39] <amik> that is, server processes, not a farm :-)
[02:39] <Huntz23> I should roll the whole system over to nix and run vmware
[02:40] <amik> Huntz23: anyway, I'm gonna call it a day... good luck, and welcome to the 21st century :-)
[02:41] <Huntz23> lol, thanks amik
[02:41] <Huntz23> amik: it nice having your in my corner...lol
[02:42] <amik> Huntz23: I've learned a lot today.... thanks :-) cya!
[02:42] <Huntz23> me too, tahnks, laterz
[02:47] <nikitis> How do i increase the font dpi?
[02:54] <ebovine> Anyone else having a problem with 9.10 not loading their apache configs at startup, but it does just fine when you restart apache after boot?
[03:02] <X9nLinux9> greetings everyone.  What is the newest version of Kubuntu that will install on a G4 tower? (not an intel processor)
[03:04] <nikitis> Anyone know how to increase font size with kde?
[03:05] <tsimpson> nikitis: System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts
[03:05] <ebovine> X9nLinux9: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=427714
[03:06] <X9nLinux9> ebovine - thank you, been fishing around to find the info.
[03:06] <ebovine> You're probably better off with a distro that actively supports PPC processors, though.
[03:07] <ebovine> http://penguinppc.org/
[03:09] <X9nLinux9> ebovine: I've watched Kubuntu for a long time and had it installed more than once.
[03:10] <X9nLinux9> ebovine: Would like to stick with it ... am impressed with its overall quality and will eventually move on to an intel mac... so will eventually be back into the 'supported' area
[03:10] <maverick_> Hi All, greetings, which one is the best VPN utility with Kubuntu?
[03:13] <X9nLinux9> ebovine: Furthermore, am very happy with how easy it is to get consistent friendly support for questions here regularly when I've had it running
[03:14] <ebovine> hehe.  Yeah, the community and not being RPM based are really the things that keep me in the Ubuntu camp.
[03:15] <X9nLinux9> the best 'other' distro I ever tried was not bad looking... as well as functional and easy, but the support was totally non-existent ... so I gave up on that one.
[03:17] <X9nLinux9> you know how it goes.  Sometimes you gotta have answers to some stuff.  If the answers are not available, the computer might as well be a pile of plastic and metal.
[03:19] <Syk3> christ i cant stay connected...
[03:19] <Syk3> My previous user name was Miakel, I asked about installing *buntu
[03:19] <Syk3> both were 64 bit and wouldnt get past the initial screen
[03:20] <ebovine> What kind of hardware?
[03:20] <Syk3> Ive read 9.10 had some issues though? Currently downloading 9.04
[03:20] <ebovine> 9.10 is pretty fresh.
[03:20] <Syk3> Intel Core 2 duo  geforce 9600
[03:20] <ebovine> Should be fine.
[03:20] <Syk3> yes but it isnt
[03:20] <ebovine> What type of drive?
[03:21] <Syk3> Western digital WD500
[03:21] <ebovine> Have you tried the text-mode installer?
[03:22] <Syk3> I havent
[03:22] <Syk3> I will try that next although im pretty new to linux
[03:22] <ebovine> Will it boot to the live cd?
[03:22] <Syk3> no it wont
[03:22] <Syk3> still hangs
[03:22] <ebovine> What's the last thing it shows you?
[03:23] <Syk3> the Kubuntu logo and the status bar
[03:23] <Syk3> thats it
[03:23] <ebovine> So it does let you choose a boot option first?
[03:23] <Syk3> yes
[03:23] <Deihmos> why doesnt kubuntu have a server list. that's dumb
[03:23] <Deihmos> i mean konversation
[03:24] <Syk3> ill try the text based install if it hangs again ive just burned 9.04 and will try that
[03:24] <Syk3> brb
[03:25] <ebovine> Syk3: I think you'll have to download the Alternate CD to get the text installer.
[03:28] <Deihmos> can ubuntu see windows shared folders over a network?
[03:29] <ebovine> yes
[03:29] <ebovine> smb://server/share
[03:29] <ebovine> From within Dolphin
[03:29] <ebovine> That will get you an ad-hoc, temporary mount.
[03:32] <ebovine> You can edit your fstab to mount them every time at boot.
[03:33] <Deihmos> another homerun
[03:42] <crazy6> does the version of knetworkmanager in 9.10 finally support WPA2 ? or should I just stick with nm-applet ?
[03:43] <ebovine> It supports WPA2 Personal
[03:43] <ebovine> So did 9.04
[03:44] <Qu4Z> Are there any complicated technical issues in the way of WPA2, or is it just that no-one's implemented it yet? (because it's one of the factors stopping a friend of mine using Kubuntu)
[03:44] <MaartenLx> speaking of which, is there any way to start the wireless without having to give another password right after loggin in?
[03:45] <crazy6> ok, so, I have nm-applet autostarting somehow.. but I have totally forgotten where that is set up...?
[03:45] <crazy6> nothing in my ~/.kde/Autostart/
[03:45] <Bsims> I can't get my system bell to beep nor turn on my numlock/caplock leds
[03:49] <ebovine> MaartenLx: You'll need to set the wireless connection up as a system connection.  That second password request is to open the KWallet application.
[03:49] <MaartenLx> yeah that's what it is. I'll find some stuff on how to set it up as a system connection.
[03:50] <Bsims>  I found out how to get my system to beep... I had to sudo modprobe pcspkr its blacklisted on ubuntu
[03:50] <ebovine> Bsims: Yeah, by popular demand.
[03:50] <Shamoun_> so is everything huge in kubuntu? or have is it because im virtualizing?
[03:50] <Shamoun_> i refer to text sizes
[03:51] <ebovine> Shamoun: It probably detected your font dpi settings wrong.
[03:52] <ebovine> System Settings->Appearance->Fonts
[03:52] <ebovine> Force your font DPI to 120 and see if that's better.
[03:56] <Shamoun_> ebovine, thanks
[03:56] <ebovine> Shamoun_: No problem.  That used to drive me nuts too.
[03:58] <Shamoun_> ebovine, yea that did the trick, thanks, the vm is now usable
[03:58] <Shamoun_> er do you happen to know of anything in konqueror similar to the "Clear private data" feature in firefox?
[04:00] <ebovine> You have to do it all manually under Settings->Configure
[04:00] <Shamoun_> hmm
[04:00] <Shamoun_> thanks
[04:01] <ebovine> Get Google Crome (Chromium) out of the official ppa source.  It has an incognito mode.
[04:02] <The_Journey> Why does my kubuntu keeps hanging randomly? Like one moment everything works fine, then the next nothing works, I have to press my power down button to shut the computer down
[04:02] <Shamoun_> oh its fine, its just a virtual machine, i just went to youtube to test flash, and i thought i'd clear all the tracks so i could tar up the archive and post it on the network
[04:12] <MaartenLx> There! figured out the easiest way to make wireless a system connection. :)
[04:36] <macken> hello everyone
[04:37] <macken> has anyone had any problems with loosing sound  in 9.10
[04:41] <Roey> hello
[04:41] <Roey> I can't hear any sound on my computer
[04:51] <raavan> ubuntu! Can anyone help me patch and complie frub with this http://grub.gibibit.com/Download
[04:51] <raavan> grub^
[05:01] <mocchi> hi, anyone to know if kubuntu 9.10 support multi monitor?
[05:01] <Roey> yes it does.
[05:01] <Roey> mocchi:  you're using an nvidia card at all?
[05:01] <Roey> mocchi:  if so, then there is a tool, nvidia-settings, which you can use to set them up
[05:01] <mocchi> No, I use intel card.
[05:02] <Roey> ahhhhhhhhh
[05:02] <Roey> then I don't know
[05:02] <Roey> alright,I'm going to bed
[05:02] <mocchi> okay
[05:02] <Roey> but keep asking here
[05:02] <Roey> and in #ubuntu
[05:02] <FloodBotK2> Roey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:02] <Roey> someone is bound to know
[05:03] <gr0wler> my battery plasmiod resets its size every time it login, anyone else seen this?
[05:05] <MaartenLx> ugh! Hmmmmm....... I need to figure out my battery settings, Kubuntu sucks my battery dry in an hour and half, Windows 7 ran for 2 hours, 20 minutes 2 days back.
[05:05]  * MaartenLx frantically searches for poweradapter :D
[05:06] <nikitis> Anyone know how to kill kwin composition effects via commandline?  And restart it later after you kill it?
[05:10] <MaartenLx> Hmm.... Quassel crashed on me
[05:10] <MaartenLx> I like Quassel though
[05:13] <FireCrotch> MaartenLx: Quassel is pretty nice, yeah :)
[05:14] <MaartenLx>  Yeah I never heard of it before
[05:14] <MaartenLx> I prefer it over xchat
[05:14] <FireCrotch> It's pretty new, I believe
[05:14] <MaartenLx> and I have never been a fan of irsii type irc
[05:14] <Joshua^Dunamis> MaartenLx: Wich (k)ubuntu release are you using?
[05:14] <MaartenLx> 9.10
[05:15] <MaartenLx> I never used 9.04, this was a fresh install.
[05:15] <Joshua^Dunamis> me too. Quassel works fine to me
[05:15] <MaartenLx> last time I used linux was actually Ubuntu (gnome) 8.10
[05:15] <FireCrotch> Interesting feature I just found out about quassel... "The core application can be placed onto a server which is connected to the Internet around-the-clock; one or more clients then connect to the core. This way, the connection to IRC can be kept up even when all clients have been closed."
[05:15] <FireCrotch> Which is what people do with irssi/screen
[05:15] <Joshua^Dunamis> mmm maybe the problem is not on Quassel
[05:16] <Joshua^Dunamis> FireCrotch: I love irssi, I used on Debian
[05:16] <Nailbar> Anyone else got a sudden PulseAudio problem just now?
[05:16] <FireCrotch> I hate irssi
[05:17] <FireCrotch> But I had been searching for a way to have my IRC client stay connected all the time, like irssi on a server with screen
[05:17] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: on Ubuntu italian Forum there is many people with pulseaudio problems
[05:17] <Nailbar> In italian?
[05:18] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: I read on italian forum, because I'm italian. PulseAudio do not work fine at thi time
[05:18] <Qu4Z> I like irssi ^^
[05:18] <Qu4Z> And screen <3
[05:18] <Joshua^Dunamis> but I use Kubuntu
[05:18] <Nailbar> The thing is I'm using Kubuntu. I never installed PulseAudio. It just turned up on my computer.
[05:18] <Nailbar> Apt-get says it's not installed either.
[05:19] <Brhad56> close one in new orleans
[05:19] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: mmm, are you using ubuntu?
[05:19] <Nailbar> Kubuntu
[05:20] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: if you use kubuntu purge every pulse pacchage in the system
[05:21] <Nailbar> Joshua^Dunamis: I don't have any pulseaudio packages in my system
[05:22] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: ok, so where is the problem?
[05:23] <Nailbar> Joshua^Dunamis: That PulseAudio turned up in System Settings -> Multimedia and stopped my sound from working even though I never installed it.
[05:24] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: did you install phonon? Try to reinstall kubuntu-desktop so you're sure to install correct dipendencies
[05:28] <miescke> hello
[05:28] <Joshua^Dunamis> hello miescke
[05:29] <Nailbar> Joshua^Dunamis: reinstalling kubuntu-desktop doesn't seem to do anything to its dependencies. They're all there.
[05:30] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: mmm maybe the problem is other. Try with alsamixer on konsole, and see if channels and volumes are correct
[05:31] <kooolanl> hey guys
[05:31] <kooolanl> can anyone point me to a tutorial or something so i can fully use my 4gb of ram on this laptop with 32bit ubuntu
[05:31] <kooolanl> :<
[05:32] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: Are you sure that there is not pulse package in your system? Try dpkg -l| grep pulse* and see the output
[05:33] <Nailbar> Joshua^Dunamis: Aaa! libpulse has been installed for some reason.
[05:33] <Joshua^Dunamis> mmm let's me see I have it
[05:34] <Nailbar> Joshua^Dunamis: No. That's not it. Everything seems to depend on it.
[05:34] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: I have libpulse, it's not the problem...
[05:35] <Huntz23> does the NTFS work well in 8.04?
[05:36] <MaartenLx> dunno.... but it works great and out of the box in 9.10
[05:36] <Nailbar> Joshua^Dunamis: My original output device, HDA Intel (ALC1200 Analog), which worked yesterday, is now grayed out with PulseAudio the only other uption in the list.
[05:36] <FireCrotch> Huntz23: I never had problems with NTFS in 8.04
[05:36] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: try to see alsamixer, or witch backend you're using in Settings -> Multimedia
[05:36] <MaartenLx> kooolanl: why not install x64?
[05:36] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: mmm
[05:36] <kooolanl> X64 Was only server that i found
[05:36] <Joshua^Dunamis> That's the problem
[05:36] <kooolanl> and has bad wifi support i heard
[05:37] <MaartenLx> I run x64 kubuntu 9.10 on my laptop (hp elitebook 6930p
[05:37] <Nailbar> Joshua^Dunamis: xine is the backend and the only one in the list.
[05:37] <Huntz23> FireCrotch: thank you, I ahve some files I need to move around in my broken windows install so I figured I would ask before I wasted time on it
[05:37] <Nailbar> Joshua^Dunamis: Sorry. "Phonon XINE backend"
[05:37] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: install alsa-base and alsa-utils
[05:37] <NermaN> how to fix sound in vlc and flash in 9.10?
[05:38] <kooolanl> MaartenLx no way of doing 32bit and utalize all 4gb
[05:38] <kooolanl> ?
[05:38] <Nailbar> Joshua^Dunamis:
[05:38] <Nailbar> alsa-base is already the newest version.
[05:38] <Nailbar> alsa-utils is already the newest version.
[05:38] <kooolanl> i heard someone say its possible
[05:38] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: did you see alsamixer?
[05:38] <Nailbar> Joshua^Dunamis: Yes. It's there.
[05:39] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: Ok, try to change volume values
[05:40] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: Look at Master, Front, PCM...
[05:40] <MaartenLx> kooolanl: dunno, I haven't tried. But what I do know of PAE (in Windows) and the equivilent in Linux is that you really only can do it if all of your drivers support being loaded in address space above the 4 Gb mark - for instance if you need to use NDISwrapper for you wireless you may not be so lucky.
[05:41] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: with the "m" you turn on the channels on alsamixer
[05:41] <MaartenLx> That being said, I run Windows 7 x64 and Kubuntu 9.10 x64 without any problems on this laptop, and 4 GB is available in both OSes.
[05:41] <Nailbar> Joshua^Dunamis: Seems to be working. Tested with arecord and aplay. But Amarok and all other KDE-related still tries to use PulseAudio.
[05:42] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: ok, now try to reboot your pc, maybe alsa have to reset it
[05:42] <Nailbar> Joshua^Dunamis: Okay. Thanks for the help this far.
[05:43] <NermaN> how to fix sound in vlc and flash in 9.10? please help, in russian support nobody knows
[05:44] <MaartenLx> flash? just download flash from the repostory..... I got it to work in firefox just fine.
[05:44] <NermaN> sound in flash
[05:44] <MaartenLx> vlc? I got it installed, but haven't used it yet.
[05:44] <kartook> hey all
[05:44] <Joshua^Dunamis> NermaN: vlc use the gstreamer backend, if you use kubuntu try with phonon-gstreamer-backend package... may be I wrote not correctly
[05:44] <kartook> how are you doin all
[05:46] <MaartenLx> NermaN: not sure.... sound plays just fine here in e.g. Youtube, so I figured flash sounds work :P
[05:46] <Nailbar> Joshua^Dunamis: Yes! Sound! Thanks for the help! I still don't know how PulseAudio got there in the first place, though. Wierd.
[05:46] <NermaN> pulseaudio dont work too
[05:46] <NermaN> maybe MaartenLx has working pulseaudio?
[05:47] <MaartenLx> haven't got that installed. Let me see if my VLC works
[05:47] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: Ok, Nice for you
[05:48] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: maybe any pulse package was installed and purged off.
[05:48] <MaartenLx> Yep, sound works in VLC too.... at least with MP3, haven't tried a video
[05:48] <Nailbar> Joshua^Dunamis: Do you have PulseAudio in your output device list as a fallback option?
[05:49] <NermaN> Maarten pulse working?
[05:49] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: yes
[05:49] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: It's on third position
[05:49] <Nailbar> Joshua^Dunamis: Okay. So it was just my sound card that didn't get initialized correctly. Would have probably been solved through a reboot without all the hassle.
[05:50] <Joshua^Dunamis> Nailbar: may be
[05:50] <MaartenLx> NermaN: Haven't got that installed..... but so far I got sound out of everything that I have used and where I expect it to produce sound.
[05:50] <Nailbar> Joshua^Dunamis: Anyway, thanks again. Now I'm off listening to all them nice sounds everthing makes. Ciao.
[05:50] <NermaN> reboot...
[05:57] <ahmedtaufiq> does kubuntu requires internet connection during installation ???
[05:59] <ahmedtaufiq> ???
[06:03] <Ash-Fox> No.
[06:05] <Novice> On Karmic it say's that I dont have permission to change an Icon image how do I cercumvent this problem?
[06:10] <d9500> Novice: you're trying to change the default icon set or just a single icon?
[06:11] <Novice> d9500: JUST A SINGLE ICON IMAGE THAT I WANT TO CHANGE
[06:11] <Novice> sry cps
[06:12] <Novice> d9500: say's I don't have permission to but I am the only user?
[06:13] <d9500> Novice: and you right click on the icon, select properties, and then clcik the square box with the icon image in it? or are you using a different method?
[06:14] <Novice> d9500: that is exactly what I am trying to do but it will not let me how do I gain permission to change it?
[06:15] <d9500> novice: well, you could try changing ownership to active user, if somehow the permissions got screwed up.
[06:16] <d9500> novice: though i'm not sure what effect that might have in terms of problems if other users ever need to access it, if you do add other users in the future
[06:16] <Novice> d9500: ANY IDEAS HOW TO CHANGE OWNERSHIP OR LOG IN AS ROOT LONG ENOUGH TO CHANGE IT?
[06:17] <d9500> novice: using kubuntu, right?
[06:17] <Novice> d9500: ARE NO OTHER USERS JUST ME AND MY PC
[06:17] <Novice> d9500: sry dang caps
[06:17] <Novice> d9500: yup
[06:18] <FireCrotch> Novice: If you're trying to change/edit something that isn't owned by your user, use sudo to do so
[06:18] <FireCrotch> !sudo | Novice
[06:19] <d9500> novice: if you're using a kde desktop, you shouldn't have to do any chown stuff in terminal to change the ownership to the active user. just open dolphin, navigate to /home/yourusername/Desktop and you should see the icon there. right click it and select properties, then move the cursor over root actions, then click ownership to active user.
[06:19] <Novice> lol funny graphical interface is my friend
[06:20] <Novice> d9500: thx very much
[06:21]  * LinusTrovalds makes novice an expert
[06:22] <Novice> lol thx everyone
[06:23] <d9500> novice: no prob. oh, and as regarding the gui directions, i try to give gui directions as opposed to terminal ones.
[06:24] <d9500> (and probably irritate half the people in the channel since doing so usually takes three times as many lines. oops)
[06:24] <Novice> well I do know how to use the terminal but would't use it to change an icon image
[06:29] <d9500> novice: ah, but assuming my suggestion worked, that probably means the icon image issue was only a manifestation of the actual problem, which was screwed up permissions. that kind of thing is why i prefaced my answer with a bunch of questions , to determine what the underlying problem was; again, that's assuming my answer actually worked.
[06:30] <d9500> i shall shut up now before i go into a monologue on how to better help people. heh
[06:47] <humblen> Hi there, can someone help me?  I'm having absolutely no luck installing kubuntu 9.10
[06:53] <d9500> humblen: i can try, but if it's partitioning or a bad cd image, then i may not be of much help
[06:53] <humblen> I've checked the CD, and am doing so again right now.
[06:54] <d9500> humblen: what exactly is it doing? at what part of the install does it mess up?
[06:54] <humblen> I've had to resort to the alternate installer, as the graphical one hangs pretty early.
[06:54] <humblen> Currently it hangs on "Detecting network hardware"
[06:54] <d9500> what about the alternate one. how far does it get?
[06:55] <humblen> That's where the alternate one is hanging.
[06:55] <humblen> It hangs at 0% on that process.
[06:56] <d9500> this is going to be one of those dumb 'is the computer plugged in" type questions, but you've tried downloading the image from, say, maybe a different mirror, and burning a second cd?
[06:56] <d9500> besides the alt one, i mean
[06:56] <humblen> I downloaded the CD from the bittorrent feed.
[06:57] <humblen> And, it's at leas internally consistent (it passes it's self-check).
[06:57] <d9500> hmm. the offical ubuntu site is slow, or was last time i checked, but i've never had a problem installing from their iso images.
[06:57] <d9500> what about other live CDs? do you have maybe an ubuntu or fedora or suse laying around, and if so, do any of those find the nic?
[06:57] <humblen> Is it a problem that I have three hard drives with a different linux distro on them?
[06:58] <humblen> I've tried the regular ubuntu CD and it hangs too.
[06:59] <d9500> what kind of nic does your computer have? nothing exotic?
[06:59] <humblen> I've been running gentoo on the machine for a couple of years, but want to switch to kubuntu so I don't have to tinker with it so much.
[06:59] <humblen> Intel 1000T
[07:00] <d9500> gentoo? whoa, i don't think i'm gonna be able to help you if you were running gentoo before. you're light years ahead of me already :(
[07:00] <aaron> I'm setting up a development enviornment for kde... and I keep running into goofy instructions that assume I have everything else up.. but I don't know where to start
[07:00] <humblen> I know that that NIC got a little odd in recent versions of the kernel, I had to change my kernel config in gentoo, but I'd expect kubuntu to support it.
[07:00] <aaron> I just want to work on a few plasmoids, and play with kicker and kfile/kio behavior
[07:02] <aaron> does anybody know of a really good set of instructions to set it up
[07:04] <humblen> I'm trying the "expert mode", but it still hangs at "Detecting network hardware".  Is there any way to skip that step?
[07:15] <ahmedtaufiq> hi, can i use facebook in kdeUBlog, appearing on desktop
[07:15] <ahmedtaufiq> ??
[07:17] <ahmedtaufiq> ??
[07:18] <ahmedtaufiq> any one here to help ?
[07:19] <GeorgeWBush> yeah i am
[07:21] <malice> whats up guys
[07:21] <GeorgeWBush> i am all rich malice mice
[07:21] <malice> lmfao
[07:22] <GeorgeWBush> LMfao
[07:22] <malice> well thats nice.. your also a coke addict
[07:22] <malice> :)
[07:22] <GeorgeWBush> no i am nort
[07:24] <ahmedtaufiq> mr bush, can i use facebook on kdueblog ?
[07:25] <ahmedtaufiq> i saw a screen shot on kubuntu website
[07:25] <malice> hmm
[07:25] <ahmedtaufiq> of this
[07:25] <ahmedtaufiq> but now its not working
[07:25] <ahmedtaufiq> can u help on it
[07:25] <malice> maybe a bug?
[07:26] <ahmedtaufiq> not a bug, i have failed to set up correctly
[07:26] <malice> heh
[07:26] <ahmedtaufiq> as i m using it for the first time
[07:26]  * GeorgeWBush asks if anybody can helop me
[07:26] <malice> look up a tutorial
[07:26] <ahmedtaufiq> where is it ?
[07:26] <malice> google.com :)
[07:27] <skreech> ahmedtaufiq: What's up?
[07:27] <ahmedtaufiq> i want to set up facebook on kdueblog
[07:27] <ahmedtaufiq> appearing on desktop
[07:27] <skreech> ahmedtaufiq: There is a facebook plasmoid
[07:27] <ahmedtaufiq> where is it ?
[07:28] <skreech> !info plasma-widget-facebook
[07:28] <skreech> ahmedtaufiq: ^^^ install that
[07:28] <ahmedtaufiq> ok, from where to install ?
[07:29] <skreech> From main
[07:30] <amik> is there a high-level kubuntu changelog somewhere? where u can see which packages were updated since karmic release, for instance?
[07:30] <skreech> IT should just turn up in the list then
[07:30] <skreech> amik: THat's a low level changelog
[07:31] <malice> any one know when the function keys will be available on kubuntu karmic?
[07:31] <ahmedtaufiq> i have downloaded, now where to install it ?
[07:31] <malice> screen brightness keys don`t work anymore :/
[07:32] <ahmedtaufiq> skreech : ??
[07:33] <amik> skreech: I guess it's relative... I mean without all the details of every package, just a one-liner per update or something similar
[07:38] <ahmedtaufiq> i have downloaded facebook plasmoid, now how to install it ?
[07:38] <amik> so, is there a kubuntu updates changelog?
[07:39] <ahmedtaufiq> skreech: you there ?
[07:49] <bigbrovar> hey guys anyone else having problems printing from  webbrowers (tried and failed from rekonq and firefox)
[07:51] <skreech> ahmedtaufig: Sorry stepped away
[07:51] <bigbrovar> skreech> hey mate
[07:52] <skreech> HI bigbrovar
[07:52] <skreech> amik: You want a list of all the packages which have changed with one line as to what has changed in them ?
[07:55] <skreech> hi eagles0513875
[07:56] <eagles0513875> anyone have any good how to's on ssh tunnling
[07:56] <eagles0513875> skreech: = daskreech ?
[07:56] <skreech> YEs
[07:56] <eagles0513875> skreech: you ever tunnel a connection with ssh before?
[07:56] <eagles0513875> how you doing
[07:56] <Fusion64> Hello, i recently installed kubuntu karmic amd 64 and i have some problems with my soundcard, its realtek Hd. in settings there are two kinds of drivers shown on the board. one is "HDA ATI SB (ALC268 analog)" and the other one is "Pulse Audio". Pulse audio Does not work.however The first one sounds good but when i try to play mp3's on amarok it doesnt work and no errors are shown,simply the program doesnt do anything. i tried songbird.
[07:56] <skreech> Not bad
[07:56] <eagles0513875> !sound | Fusion64
[07:57] <skreech> eagles0513875: :-P
[07:57] <eagles0513875> skreech: any idea about ssh tunnling or how to go about it
[07:57] <skreech> Read the stupid complaint first
[07:57] <skreech> Fusion64: did you install libxine1-ffmpeg ?
[07:57] <skreech> Depends on what you mean about ssh tunnelling
[07:57] <eagles0513875> skreech: he could also use kubuntu-restricted-extras to install all restricted formats
[07:58] <skreech> YEah but ... yeah
[07:58] <eagles0513875> skreech: i would like to use ssh tunnling to bypass everything thats blocked here at my school
[07:58] <Hilikus> hey guys. im trying amarok as my podcast manager. is teher any way to make it show the textual description of each episode?
[07:58] <amik> skreech: I wan't to be able to see a single list/history of updates. I don't actually care how long or in depth each entry is, as along as it's readable and in one place... is there such a thing?
[07:59] <eagles0513875> skreech: would you mind hopping in offtopic as i dont want to drag this channel ot
[07:59] <skreech> Hilikus: Ask in #amarok
[07:59] <Fusion64> But songbird Has some kind of error That goes by the name " Internal data flow error". The Main and Big Problem is that I Have A usb adsl Modem And i have with that one too.
[07:59] <skreech> amik: I think there might be. Ask in #ubuntu-devel they would be most knowledgeable
[08:00] <skreech> Fusion64: I don't understand you are playing a MP3 stream ?
[08:03] <Fusion64> skreech: no i cant play any format. im stuck!
[08:04] <skreech> Fusion64: Really?
[08:04] <skreech> Fusion64: http://www.vorbis.com/music/Mists_of_Time-4T.ogg
[08:05] <skreech> Grab that and see if it plays
[08:05] <Fusion64> I tried The linux Drivers provided by realtek and When i decompressed it,i found out that it was the ALSA Drivers. I tried to compile the source code but im a beginner to linux stuff and im confused
[08:06] <eagles0513875> Fusion64: installing kubuntu-restricted-extras should install any missing codecs as well as other restricted formats such as flash and java if they are not already installed
[08:07] <skreech> Fusion64: Apparently :) You really shouldn't have to put this much work into getting it to .. well work
[08:08] <skreech> Fusion64: First thing is to check to make sure that it's not muted. For some reason some installs mute the sound card so you can't hear anything
[08:11] <Fusion64> skreech:There is A Little thing i have to say. When i test the analog driver in settings,It Sounds!(As i mentioned above) But I Dont understand whats going on!
[08:11] <kadoban> upon upgrading to 9.10, sound no longer works in gtk applications (or at least, rhythmbox and mplayer)  it works fine in the System Settings (test) and amarok, etc.  any ideas? don't even know what to check
[08:13] <Fusion64> skreech: No There is a mixer in kde applications and it shows that the sound output is not mute
[08:16] <amik> skreech: the answer is http://feeds.ubuntu-nl.org/UbuntuChanges, should u ever need it :-)
[08:18] <kadoban> ah, PulseAudio is apparently messed up.  when i click Test in System Settings -> Multimedia, any sound after that is broken (a message pops up saying the audio device doesn't work).  could that be my problem?  (and how would i go about fixing that?)
[08:24] <graker> Hello. Does anyone know about kaffeine in kubuntu karmic srt subtitles support? It was working well in 8.10 and now it doesn't
[08:26] <KjetilK> ouch, kmail crashes on me when I click "reply" on any email...
[08:26] <KjetilK> anyone seen that?
[09:25] <trijntje> [stupid question allert] How can you shutdown kubuntu? I can only choose hibernate
[09:43] <asktoby> Thinking about going from Jaunty to Karmic today - anything I should be wary of or did the upgrade go well for most people?
[09:44] <asktoby> I've been away all weekend and haven't been watching the scene
[09:50] <klux-klux> hello all
[09:50] <klux-klux> im from malaysia
[09:53] <trijntje> [stupid question allert] How can you shutdown kubuntu? I can only choose hibernate in the main menu
[09:53] <asktoby> trijntje: $ sudo shutdown -h now
[09:53] <asktoby> (Don't know why it's not in your menu)
[09:54] <trijntje> asktoby, but there should be an entry in the menu right? Maybe its a vbox thing
[09:55] <asktoby> trijntje: There should be an entry. I have Hibernate, Restart and Shutdown in mine
[09:55] <trijntje> asktoby, ok thanks, ill see what a reinstall does
[10:19] <kgeek> is there any file download tool   in kubuntu
[10:19] <kgeek> any one help needed
[10:19] <ni1s> kgeek, kget
[10:19] <kgeek> ni1s: alright
[10:20] <kgeek> is it same as FDM n IDM replacement
[10:20] <kgeek> ni1s: FDM IDM are for win
[10:20] <ni1s> kgeek, huh?
[10:20]  * jonathan__ starts banging my head on the desk
[10:22] <kgeek> ni1s: wat happend dude !!
[10:24] <Luggage> huh weird, shut down yesterday fine, just booted pc, boots to black nothing happens, reset, kubuntu starts normally  log into desktop, soeakers and such icons are missing hmm
[10:24] <Luggage> speakers*
[10:27] <jonathan__> hey guys are the servers and the website down
[10:27] <Luggage> kubuntu.org?
[10:27] <Luggage> can reach it fine here
[10:27] <jonathan__> bah
[10:27] <jonathan__> my school sux
[10:27] <jonathan__> trying to ssh tunnel around the firewall here
[10:28] <jonathan__> but it doesnt seem to work
[10:28] <Luggage> lol
[10:28] <Luggage> naughty :)
[10:29] <david> hi, kdm is no longer running at boot- does anyone know how to fix this?
[10:29] <Guest33637> i have to manually type startx after console login
[10:30] <Luggage> ow (not an expert) but kde works fine ater manually starting it david?
[10:30] <jonathan__> Luggage: friends use ultra surfe on windows
[10:31] <Guest33637> yes luggage
[10:31] <Guest33637> any ideas?
[10:31] <Luggage> thinking/googling :)
[10:32] <jonathan__> i have been trying luggage and found something use ful but having issues
[10:32] <Guest33637> yeah done both
[10:32] <Guest33637> crazy
[10:33] <Luggage> for the kdm pob, not the best advice im sure but you could try reinstalling kubuntu-desktop with apt-get?
[10:33] <Luggage> (im just new to linux myself)
[10:38] <Luggage> and jonathan__ , i dont have much experience tunneling firewalls, I just know it could be youŕe school restricts encrypted traffic to ports it expects traffic and blocks it on other ports perhaps
[10:38] <Luggage> so to allow encrypted traffic they want and stop people like you ;) :)
[10:39] <jonathan__> then Luggage why can i ssh into a friends machine
[10:39] <Luggage> in or outside school network?
[10:39] <jonathan__> from inside to outside
[10:39] <Luggage> hmm
[10:40] <indio> hi all!!
[10:40] <Luggage> hey
[10:40] <jonathan__> !hi | indio
[10:40] <indio> I need some help installing vmware-server 1 on K9.10
[10:40] <jonathan__> !vmware
[10:41] <jonathan__> indio: check out that link
[10:41] <Luggage> well im thinking you have more experience already tunniling firewalls :)
[10:41] <jonathan__> no i dont
[10:41] <jonathan__> never done it before
[10:41] <varanus> is there a way to change in okular the default annotating values. f.e. i'm using the annotating tools and in particular the line (6) tool and i'm searching a way to change the default width so i don't have to enter every time the properties menu to change it.
[10:42] <Luggage> the succesul attempt with a friend, same port as your unsuccesfull attempt to reach kubuntu.org?
[10:42] <khaije|amalt> hi all, after dist-upgrade to karmic my laptop no booty boot
[10:43] <jonathan__> Luggage: on osx i can get to the site
[10:43] <jonathan__> something strange on firefox
[10:43] <Luggage> weird
[10:43] <varanus> i've tried modifying the /usr/share/kde4/apps/okular/tools.xml but nothing happens.
[10:43] <Luggage> khaije, if thatś all the ino you can provide not much anyone can do to help I think
[10:43] <Luggage> info*
[10:43] <khaije|amalt> it gets to the point in login when it starts to load the disk and seizes, the screen gradually gets lighter and lighter until it cant be read
[10:44] <Luggage> not me anyway but im noobish :)
[10:44] <khaije|amalt> i've seen this problem before but can't remember how to fix it...
[10:44] <varanus> #join okular
[10:44] <varanus> sorry
[10:44] <Luggage> guess I wont upgrade yet then
[10:45] <jonathan__> Luggage: im linux certified
[10:45] <Luggage> im not even a week old on kubuntu
[10:45] <Luggage> but learn fast (computer stuff anyway)
[10:45] <khaije|amalt> anyone know which modules grub uses by default? im guessing ext2/ext4 and lvm...?
[10:45] <indio> I've already checked out that one. I got it working on 9.04, but after upgrading to 9.10 I removed unsupported pkgs... I'll give it another round, after I'll tell you 'bout mu luck... Thanks guys
[10:47] <bigbrovar> is it just me, or the OO.o kde4 integration on kubuntu karmic is currently broken? any work around yet?
[10:48] <jonathan__> Luggage: it works turns out something with the tunneling
[10:48] <jonathan__> anywho i need to reboot
[10:49] <jonathan__> will try this again on thursday
[10:52] <skar> hi, i'm using jaunty with kde. when i login, dcopserver isn't running and i'm not able to use dcopstart. any ideas?
[11:00] <skar> hi, i'm using jaunty with kde and  i'm getting "Error: Could not find service 'konsole-script'." if i run "dcopstart konsole-start". it used to work with hardy kubuntu
[11:13] <theseusrf> hello, where can I find a changelog for the new 9.04 Kernel 2.6.31-14 to the old 8.10 Kernel: 2.6.28-16 ?
[11:16] <theseusrf> I am especially interested in the changelog for scheduling in this kernel
[11:20] <Emanon> any particular reason i cant click buttons in flash animations and stuff and have to tab through them only in 9.10 not 9.04
[11:24] <Emanon> oh and why either pulse or phonon likes to turn off my sound when its not in use (and sometimes when it is) so if something stats to use sound or i happen to touch volume control i get a thunderous pop as it reactivates the sound card (or something)
[11:25] <Emanon> any hints
[11:26] <Emanon> like i didnt mind so much when flash for 64 bit dropped out of full screen whenever i touched system volume but having to tab through everything in it is annoying
[11:27] <Luggage> theseusrf: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ i hazard a guess
[11:27] <Luggage> Emanon: sorry, wouldn know, im on 9.04 and try and use alsa for most things
[11:28] <Emanon> i use xine (through phonon) i assume alsa is lurking in the background there somewhere
[11:28] <Luggage> and as far as flash goes, I made the effeort to get the x64 plugin from adobe directly and installing it instead of the package from the repositories
[11:28] <Luggage> works fine except for going fullscreen with youtube and the like
[11:28] <theseusrf> thanks Luggage Ill try :-)
[11:28] <Luggage> (although a flash game like machinarium works fine fullscreen ?)
[11:29] <Emanon> yea thats the only problem i had with it before .10 and wasnt to put off by it
[11:29] <Luggage> np theseusrf I think you can find it somewhere in the wiki
[11:30] <Emanon> and the sound doesnt cut off when i have pulse audio volume control open but if i close it it starts cutting off sound every 15 seconds or so whatever i happen to be doing
[11:30] <Emanon> like listening to music which is a pain
[11:30] <Emanon> comes back on if i alter teh volume or open pulse volume control
[11:31] <Emanon> other than that it works awesome i was impressed with how easy it was to setup an encrypted lvm2 file system over a 4 disk raid with removable /boot and mbr
[11:32] <Luggage> dont remember exactly (linux newcomer) but had some problems with sound in an app, found advice about using alsa, and since I followed that dvice had less problems, but this is under 9.04 not sure what changed with 9.10
[11:33] <Luggage> the only thing bugging me soundwise now is (sorry but honesty insists) that kubuntu cant do something that is 2 clicks in both windows and osx... switch between my soundcard/speakers and usb headset on the fly (without going into console and using asoundconfig)
[11:33] <Emanon> yea only started cutting off inn middle of songs like 2 songs ago before it was just when not in use but when it started inturruptiing my music i got right on it
[11:33] <Ash-Fox> Luggage, works fine with pulseaudio on kubuntu for me.
[11:33] <Luggage> probably an easy script to make for it, with an icon though.. will have to look into that :)
[11:34] <Luggage> Ash-Fox: will have to try
[11:34] <Emanon> yea on pulse its just a drop down on output and whatever sound streams are active
[11:34] <Luggage> Ash-Fox: I switched to alsa for several things because of problems with the default (don remember if it was pulse)
[11:34] <Emanon> thats why i have pulse so i can send different stuff to different devices
[11:35] <Ash-Fox> I believe the default setup is to use the pulse sound server which runs on top of ALSA.
[11:35] <Luggage> well for now asoundconfig set-default-card NVidia / Headset works for me :)
[11:35] <Ash-Fox> I have noticed the majority of problems with sound on Linux is stuff using the old OSS compatability support.
[11:35] <Luggage> kmix wouldn switch
[11:36] <Luggage> could be but Im araid thatś beyond my less then a week's worth of experience with linux :)
[11:36] <Luggage> afraid
[11:36] <Emanon> did have to switch to synaptic since kpackagekit refused to install certain things (like restricted extras) id mark them for install hit apply it would go through like 10 seconds of the downloading and installing packages thing then turn off and nothing had happened
[11:36] <Ash-Fox> Switching in a GUI, live, is really only a feature that can be done with pulseaudio at the moment.
[11:37] <Prior_Falx> yo
[11:37] <Luggage> are if/else constructs possible in shellscripts?
[11:37] <corigo> Any recommended EXT drivers for Windows?
[11:37] <Ash-Fox> corigo, if pre vista, the ifs ext2 driver
[11:37] <Ash-Fox> if vista or higher - none.
[11:38] <Ash-Fox> Luggage, not for live switching outside of pulse, no.
[11:38] <corigo> Ash-
[11:38] <corigo> Fox are you familiar with Ext2Fsd?
[11:39] <Ash-Fox> Yes
[11:39] <Ash-Fox> It's quite broken in vista and higher.
[11:39] <Emanon> and unfortunatly i can set phonons backend to gstreamer (which sucks cause its better than xine) if i download the gstreamer backend and use it no sound at all
[11:41] <corigo> Ash-Fox so you recommend IFS over FSD for XP?
[11:42] <Ash-Fox> corigo, they're pretty equal in XP. I'd say go with what you prefer. I prefer IFS just because I can get it somewhat working in vista and higher too (with difficulty)
[11:42] <noaXess_kubuntu> hi all
[11:42] <noaXess_kubuntu> is it possible to upgrade a kubuntu machine over konsole?
[11:43] <Emanon> apt-get distro-upgrade
[11:43] <Emanon> i think
[11:43] <Emanon> dist-upgrade sorry
[11:43] <noaXess_kubuntu> Emanon: you mean dist-upgrade.. no doesn't work
[11:44] <Emanon> other than that the only way i know is the way on the site update-notifier-kde -u
[11:44] <Emanon> but that requires gui so only gets started through konsole
[11:45] <noaXess_kubuntu> Emanon: in ubuntu server there is an option.. hm.. will try that :)
[11:46] <noaXess_kubuntu> Emanon: here you are; http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Ubuntu%20Servers%20(Recommended)
[11:46] <Emanon> anyone else notice if your not in folder view mode on your desktop plasma throws your widgets around?
[11:48] <Emanon> yea i guess all in all i like kde but the little annoyances are getting to me hehe
[11:49] <Emanon> just lil things like gstreamer being better than xine banshee is better than amarok and songbird but no shoutcast support in it
[11:49] <Emanon> but then again theres no shoutcast support in amarok anymore either so...
[11:49] <Emanon> irc dropped from kopete
[11:51] <Emanon> which is irking me more than it should cause i really do like kde better than gnome but gnome is looking better and better (have unr 9.10 on my moms eeepc and its awesome)
[11:52] <Luggage> i think how ubuntu looks is depressing lol :) color scheme etc :)
[11:52] <Emanon> yea me too
[11:52] <Luggage> just an esthetics thing
[11:53] <Emanon> and i like alot of the kde progs better but gnome is seeming more and more consistant and stable thelonger i use kde4
[11:53] <Luggage> i mean the engines are basically the same so weŕe choosing chassis more or less :) and i like kdeś look better, its fresher, less like it came out of my behind colored.
[11:53] <Emanon> yea nkr?
[11:53] <yan> hi. i'm using cryptsetup and lvm to encrypt my system. i upgraded to 9.10 last night. i used the graphical upgrade and it got stuck in some moment. afterwords i ran sudo dpkg --configure -a and the upgrade was finished. now i cant pass the password prompt and get the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/308419/ . i already tried the steps from the luks faq (http://www.saout.de/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=LUKSFaq) but everything looks
[11:53] <yan>  fine. running update-initramfs in a chrooted environment, i get the error "cryptsetup: WARNING: invalid line in /etc/crypttab -". i have found many forum posts about this, but no solutions. can anybody help me?
[11:53] <FloodBotK2> yan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:54] <Luggage> besides nothing stopping you using gnome apps anyway, i do :)
[11:54] <Emanon> and i like ktorrent better than deluge or transmission but i dont like having most of kde just for that hehe
[11:54] <Luggage> lol
[11:54] <Luggage> well a few default apps got scrapped after install
[11:55] <Emanon> i know that but most of the apps are good kde side its the base that seems nicer gnome side
[11:55] <Luggage> bye browser hello firefox, kicked out default messenger for pidgin, synaptic for packmanaging etc. I do like dolphin a lot
[11:55]  * amik has only seen floodbot bark at ppl during legitimate chat... hopes someone will change its threshold (or algorithm)
[11:56] <Emanon> yea just some stuff is nicer in kde but other stuff sucks ALOT
[11:57] <Luggage> ah well so far nothing stopped me running "gnome" apps openftd required just about the whole gnome desktop to be installed, but afterwards runs fine under kde. (if diskspace is no objection)
[11:57] <Emanon> where with gnome its like your on some kind of mood altering drug, things arent as uber where their good but their not as sucky where they're bad either
[11:57] <yan> actually my problem isnt necessarily a kubuntu issue, so i'll try in #ubuntu..
[11:57] <Luggage> I just couldn stare at the gnome all day tbh lol
[11:57] <Emanon> diskspace isnt really an objection i have 2.5 TB but i dont like the whole duplication of labor that comes with haveing pretty much 2 full desktops installed for a few progs
[11:57] <Luggage> why i went for kubuntu for my first real desktop use of linux
[11:58] <Luggage> I knew I wanted *buntu anyway kde looked less depressing (i have chronic depression disorder as it is lol)
[11:58] <Luggage> so I went with the happier flashier blue ;)
[11:58] <Emanon> i started with slackware but wasnt up to the task then tried mandriva for quite a while then debian and fedora wanted to use kubuntu but refused untill i learned encrypted filesystems were supported on the alternate cd
[11:59] <Emanon> i still try out the main ones (slackware, debian, fedora)when they come out with new versions to see if whatever one i like at the moment is stil best for me
[12:00] <Luggage> lol my first real use of linux started with backtrack 4 live cd :)
[12:00] <Emanon> id be using slackware right now if i could get my partitions set up on it i cant get my initrd to work properly with this same setup
[12:01] <Luggage> first as an interest to check for mysel how good/bad the situation with privacy and security is with the wifi revolution in progress
[12:01] <Emanon> and i wont work on an unencrypted system (unless its windows in which case im not doing ANYTHING with it)
[12:01] <jussi01> !ot
[12:01] <Luggage> but soon saw the use for it as a tool fixing pc's and such
[12:01] <Emanon> ubottu? awesome name hehe
[12:01] <Emanon> still an awesome name
[12:02] <Luggage> would be cool if he replied something like I know.... :)
[12:02] <jussi01> Just a reminder, please :)
[12:03] <Emanon> hey lets flood over to #rantradio their cool and theres no such thing as off topic there hehe
[12:03] <Luggage> lol
[12:03] <jussi01> Emanon: why not just use our offtopic channel?
[12:03] <Luggage> out of curiosity joined kubuntu-offtopic as suggested
[12:03] <Emanon> cause if we're gonna be off topic might as well be WAAAAYYYY off topic
[12:04] <Emanon> in a way only rant radio can be
[12:04] <jussi01> mhm. anyway, shall we get back to Kubuntu support here?
[12:04] <Luggage> ah well im in kubuntu-offtopic too emanon if you want to chat
[12:10] <Delago> is there any way i can download the latest kernel for 9.10? i deleted my boot and i can't restore it
[12:11] <Emanon> try magicrescue?
[12:12] <Delago> i don't have magic rescue
[12:12] <Emanon> thats the ones named vmlinux-{version here}-generic right?
[12:12] <Delago> Emanon: yes.
[12:14] <Delago> Thank you!
[12:14] <Emanon> dunno if 2.6.31-14 is newest but it might work
[12:15] <Emanon> ya never know if some crazy fix is gonna work
[12:15] <Emanon> thats what keeps me on linux more than anything
[12:15] <Emanon> it makes me feel like a mad scientist
[12:16] <Delago> yep.
[12:16] <Delago> the bad part is that i have backups. but everytime i excluded /boot
[12:16] <Delago> bad mistake
[12:18] <Emanon> wow thats odd stopped with like 50kb left
[12:18] <Emanon> there it goes
[12:19] <Delago> thanks again
[12:19] <Emanon> np hope it works
[12:22] <piovisqui> hi, i'm having trouble with dvd read, sometimes they read, sometimes not. Can anyone help?
[12:22] <Emanon> got the restricted dvd packages?
[12:23] <piovisqui> Emanon: yes. but a I mean data DVDs
[12:23] <Emanon> ahh nvm
[12:23] <piovisqui> they all read on windows, but not on linux. And they were recorded with k3b :S
[12:23] <osmm_> help me guys
[12:24] <osmm_> how to fix wine&
[12:30] <aLeSD> hi all
[12:31] <aLeSD> I have a problem with kpackagekit: I'm tring to install ubuntustudio-audio. But it doesn't anything
[12:31] <aLeSD> I mean it applies the modofication ... but in the end it doesn't install anything
[12:32] <Idhan> aLeSD: I haven't try it but is on my repositories..
[12:32] <Idhan> aLeSD: can be that isn't in the kde menu..did you try the terminal?
[12:32] <wilsby29> is it safe to upgrade to karmic on a production desktop yet?
[12:32] <wilsby29> and roughly how long does it take to upgrade
[12:33] <aLeSD> Idhan: it says the following packages will be installed ... I run install now ... and it does nothing
[12:33] <Idhan> aLeSD: but with kpackagekit.. what say the terminal?
[12:33] <Idhan> aLeSD: perphaps there can you see what is the problem
[12:34] <aLeSD> Idhan: in the terminal it works
[12:34] <aLeSD> I'm just installing
[12:34] <Idhan> aLeSD: :-)
[12:34] <aLeSD> Idhan: yes ... but it's not the point
[12:34] <nikitis> Anyone know of a shell command to kill composite?
[12:35] <aLeSD> I can't belive in the package manager of Kde now
[12:36] <asktoby> Any gotchas for going from Jaunty to Koala that I should know before clicking "yes"?
[12:36] <nikitis> Anyone know?
[12:37] <Emanon> alt-shift-f12 to toggle it isnt it?
[12:37] <wilsby29> any ideas how long it takes to upgrade from jaunty to koala?
[12:37] <nikitis> Emanon: yeah, but i'm trying to make a shortcut for my 3d games.  So that it will kill composite to get better performance
[12:37] <wilsby29> E.g: can I select a local server to download from?
[12:38] <nikitis> and then start it back up when i'm done with the game
[12:42] <wilsby29> can I upgrade from the command line?
[12:42] <wilsby29> what tool do I use?
[12:42] <wilsby29> apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:42] <Delago> I accidentaly deleted /boot (grub2 and kernels). I managed to chroot, install grub
[12:43] <wilsby29> lol
[12:43] <ulysses__> wilsby29: you should change the source.list file, jaunty -> karmic
[12:43] <wilsby29> ulysses___... all of the source.list files ?
[12:44] <ulysses__> yes, all 'jaunty' must be changed to 'karmic'
[12:45] <ulysses__> then sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:45] <wilsby29> is that all the upgrade managers do?
[12:45] <ulysses__> yes
[12:45] <wilsby29> they just rename the sources and apt-get
[12:45] <wilsby29> thank you
[12:46] <ulysses__> yw
[12:47] <nikitis>  Still looking for someone who knows a commandline to enable and disable kwin composite.
[12:49] <ulysses__> nikitis: you can disable/enable compositing with Alt+Shift+F12
[12:49] <nikitis> ulysses__: not quick enough.  I need it for a script to make shortcuts to launch my games.  I want it as simple as just clicking on the icons
[12:50] <nikitis> and when i exit the game i want the script to re-enable kwin composite
[12:50] <nikitis> without having to hit the key combination
[12:50] <nikitis> i can write the script, i just need to know the command
[12:50] <ulysses__> there is a plasmoid called 'Toggle Compositing', you can enable/disable the compositing with one klick
[12:51] <aLeSD> how to change the kdm theme ?
[12:51] <nikitis> 3 clicks.  one to disable, one to launch game, another to re-enable
[12:51] <nikitis> 1 click would be just clicking the script to execute it
[12:51] <nikitis> So not good enough.
[12:53] <ulysses__> nikitis: see this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7692050&postcount=4
[12:54] <nikitis> ulysses__: ah, great googling... i tried it but couldn't find it.  This may work.
[12:54] <Aizram> Hi
[12:55] <ulysses__> nikitis: I googled to 'disable kwin command line', it was the second:))
[12:55] <ulysses__> hello Aizram
[12:55] <nikitis> I was typing in disabling kwin composite
[12:56] <nikitis> ulysses__: works like a charm thanks
[12:56] <ulysses__> yw
[12:56] <nikitis> good command to know for us super lazy folk
[12:58] <Delago> Dudes, how can I restore my 9.10 kernels from a 9.04 livecd (i deleted them)
[12:59] <ripfeecy> hi
[12:59] <ulysses__> Delago: can you boot to recovery mode from grub?
[13:00] <Delago> ulysses__: no, i deleted /boot. then i reinstalled grub, but i have no menu.lst
[13:00] <ulysses__> no idea:S
[13:09] <kgeek> !hi |amik
[13:17] <linex> In KDE3 there is this torrent-plugin thingy for konqueror so that I can see the meta information of the torrent file. Is there such a thing for KDE4 ? Anyone knows ?
[13:22] <trigun2> bonjour
[13:24] <ubuntu_> hi all, I've installed 9.10 but I'm experiencing problems with wireless connection. My card is an intel 3945 ABG, can find and list the essid but is unable to connect. any help? thanks
[13:29] <nidez> Hi ! I would like to know how to setup windows to open always in the same position and workspace, i'm using Karmik default desktop and Gnome with advanced graphical effects on it and it does not provide thi feat...   i dont talk about startup, but simply closing and opening the window during the same session.  Is KDE doing it ?
[13:29] <kgeek> ubuntu_: use wicd instead of network maneger which  is by default provided by 9.10 wcid is able to connect  to secured wless network
[13:30] <linex> In KDE3 there is this torrent-plugin thingy for konqueror so that I can see the meta information of the torrent file. Is there such a thing for KDE4 ? Anyone knows ?
[13:30] <kgeek> ubuntu_: u'll have to install wcid from repository #sudo apt-get install wicd
[13:32] <nidez> Hi ! I would like to know how to setup windows to open always in the same position and workspace, i'm using Karmik default desktop and Gnome with advanced graphical effects on it and it does not provide thi feat...   i dont talk about startup, but simply closing and opening the window during the same session.  Is KDE doing it ?
[13:32] <InforMed> Hi! I need help! I'm unable to mount my external usb hard drive on Karmic... When I plug it in, the hdd turns on, and dmesg will say this over and over  "unable to enumerate USB device on port 3"
[13:39] <rafytafy> hi guys
[13:43] <KjetilK> I got logged out when I got back into the system after hibernation. I've seen this problem before, but I think it was fixed
[13:43] <KjetilK> does anybody else experience this?
[13:53] <Gargoyle1976> I am having trouble getting sound from flash items online...just upgraded to 9.10
[13:55] <Gargoyle1976> ne1?
[13:55] <bbeck> Gargoyle1976: I had this problem too, what I needed to do was adjust the PCM volume.
[13:56] <Gargoyle1976> bbeck: is that on the mixer?
[13:57] <Gargoyle1976> bbeck: Got it!...Thanks!
[14:04] <mrwoody> hi *. does anyone know why after upgradign to 9.10, any video is weird (like greenish or negative)... I get the problem in two different pc
[14:05] <niek_> hi, I just installed kubuntu on my desktop, and I'm having some problems with my dual monitor setup
[14:06] <niek_> (also I don't know if I should replace the driver first, as I do want to play certain 3d games?)
[14:20] <endeavor_> How can I set the default for all media types to vlc without going to each type individually?
[14:21] <padi999> could it be that you guys messed up something with the smtp server settings in kmail? I seem to have problems sending emails.
[14:21] <padi999> i mean in karmic
[14:21] <padi999> problems := they won't send and reside in the outbox
[14:22] <padi999> with a "Socket operation timed out"
[14:23] <padi999> exit
[14:24] <compilerwriter> padi999 I just tried it and it worked fine for me.  You had me scared for a second though.  Have you verified that all is well with your server and that your settings remained intact in the upgrade?
[14:24] <Guest52493> sziasztok
[14:26] <niek_> under kubuntu, with closed source ati drivers, how can I get multiple monitors to work like 1 big monitor (monitors are different size too)
[14:26] <niek_> ?
[14:27] <compilerwriter> !dual head > niek_
[14:31] <martinjh99> Are DVD's going to be media choices going forward?  Quite like the idea...
[14:39] <nikitis> Are there any good music paid services for kubuntu?  like an alternative to itunes that do not use drm in your songs?
[14:39] <nikitis> Or if someone knows how to get itunes working, that would be good too
[14:43] <Kyran> hey
[14:44] <JontheEchidna> nikitis: amarok has a magatune music store. I don't know if that's exactly what you are looking for, though you could try dropping by #amarok to ask I suppose :)
[14:44] <Kyran> I'm wondering where I can put some suggestions for kubuntu improvement
[14:46] <Bsims> I have an issue, I have been bitten by Bug # 425704 affecting my capslock, but does it affect numlock as well?
[14:46] <Pici> Kyran: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[14:46] <Pici> Kyran: by the way, do you mind if I pm you a completely unrelated question?
[14:46] <Kyran> no, shoot :)
[14:50] <Kyran> isn't there a kubuntu specific brainstorm thingie?
[14:50] <Pici> Doesn't seem to be.
[14:51] <Kyran> maybe there should be
[14:51] <Pici> But a mailing list post says to log ideas there: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2008-February/026018.html
[14:51] <Kyran> they were asking for input on those project timelord announcements
[14:57] <BluesKaj> howdy
[15:26] <BunnyG> Anyone know why my "Activate" button on Hardware drivers dosent woek?
[15:26] <BunnyG> work?*
[15:26] <wilsby29> would upgrading from jaunty to koala break stuff like databases (mysql and postgresql) and other server configuration (apache)
[15:30] <amik> kgeek: what did I do wrong? :-/
[15:33] <Joaquin> hola como estan
[15:33] <Joaquin> no me puedo concectar a mi wifi
[15:34] <Joaquin> con kubuntu
[15:37] <amik> !es | Joaquin
[15:37] <Joaquin> ok gracias
[15:42] <kgeek> amik: y dude wat happend !!
[15:42] <amik> kgeek: u botted me with a link to irc guidelines
[15:44] <kgeek> amik: oh that one sorry i was nt here someone else did from my system ..
[15:45] <amik> kgeek: okily-dokily :-)
[15:45] <neoandersen> Hi, how to fix sound on 9.10?
[15:45]  * amik notices lots of ppl come here with sound problems (but doesn't know much about it to be helpful)
[15:46] <hackfrost> hi all
[15:46] <neoandersen> Amorok keeps asking for kdewallet, I type the password but it don't work...
[15:46] <neoandersen> no sound on firefox...
[15:47] <Outrider> afternoon folk
[15:49] <Outrider> anyone else having problems with koala and rt73 ? and have they found a solution?
[15:49] <kgeek> neoandersen: why ?
[15:49] <kexman> DAMN
[15:49] <Outrider> both rt73 and rt2500 both usb are loaded
[15:49] <kexman> i upgraded kubuntu and it got worse :(
[15:49] <neoandersen> kgeek: sound was good before upgrading to 9.10...
[15:50] <kexman> now im at 9.10
[15:50] <kexman> no wifi
[15:50] <kexman> no net
[15:50] <kexman> no sound
[15:50] <FloodBotK1> kexman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:50] <Outrider> yes that my problem too
[15:51] <Outrider> seems to be a conflict causing very slow connection and lots of dropped connections
[15:52] <kexman> Outrider: i cant see / connect to my wifi
[15:52] <kexman> and my net stopped working :)
[15:52] <kexman> i know i can do it via command promp ....
[15:52] <kexman> but then i would be using gentoo :)
[15:53] <Outrider> hmm considering fedora myself :)
[15:53] <kexman> i dont know if Ubuntu is better
[15:53] <kexman> my laptop isnt the newest
[15:53] <kexman> and 9.04 worked ALOT better out of the box
[15:53] <neoandersen> sound is working now on amarok but not on firefox
[15:53] <Outrider> mine worked fine until the upgrade
[15:54] <kexman> Outrider: same problem
[15:54] <neoandersen> who uses transmission for torrent?
[15:55] <Outrider> anyway be back later
[15:56] <carmelita> Hello, I have Kubuntu 9.10, sound only works with KDE apps, not on flash, not on skype. Can someone please help me??? I need sound!!!
[15:57] <carmelita> I already installed pulseaudio, to see if that will change something, but saddly has no changed anything.
[16:02] <smurfslover> hi, just installed the kubuntu karmic but it's a big #fail
[16:02] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, I forgot to mention when I rescued my karmic install with live cd , reinstalling on / , all my data was saved , including conf files, so if an app was removef for some all i had to do was reinstall
[16:02] <smurfslover> apparently there's no ndiswrapper included
[16:03] <smurfslover> previous versions of ubuntu had major issues with my card using the acx module
[16:03] <BluesKaj> err removed for some reason
[16:03] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: Hello my friend!!
[16:03] <smurfslover> some reason???
[16:04] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: then all I have to do is put the live ce and search for the option to recover...?
[16:04] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, usually source code apps are removed because they aren't included in the repos
[16:05] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, not recover , install on / using the manual partition option
[16:06] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: well, I don't have a good idea of what source code apps are... they are recoverable later?
[16:06] <bzhb> timelord
[16:07] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, kubuntu is detected and the newest kernel source drivers etc are installed on all your HW..make sure the live cd is the latest release
[16:07] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, yes all mu apps were recoversable
[16:08] <BluesKaj> mu=my
[16:08] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: I am using kubuntu here now, in the other hd I want to let just ubuntu...
[16:09] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, you do what you want but I wanted to let you know the options
[16:09] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: then do I must download the ubuntu 9.10 amd64 in order to have this rescue option?
[16:10] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: is it available on 8.04?
[16:10] <ncfi1013> what driver should i use for the nvidia 9400 geforce evga?
[16:10] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: well I will begin the download anyway...
[16:11] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, dunno about 8.04
[16:11] <BluesKaj> but the latest release has all the fixes you need
[16:12] <carmelita> Hello, I just discovered that pulseaudio is not starting on my kubuntu 9.10, please can somone help me?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> carmelita, any sound at all ?
[16:14] <carmelita> BluesKaj: I just made it work!!!
[16:14] <carmelita> HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! YES!!!!!
[16:15] <noaXess> hi all
[16:15] <BluesKaj> alsa slidera were muted or turned off i bet
[16:15] <BluesKaj> alsa ctrls
[16:16] <noaXess> i have a brand new kubuntu 9.10.. and want really disable screensaver, screen powersaving.. have disabled powerdevil, disabled powermanagement.. but screen goes to black after few minutes.. how to really disable suspending the screen?
[16:16] <wintemute`> :) I have an entirely different question. I have problems connecting to a wpa2 secured network with my eeepc 900 (it think i's 900. Ralink chipset anyway.)
[16:18] <noaXess> wintemute`: what client? do you use kubunt's integrated network manger?
[16:18] <noaXess> what about wicd?
[16:18] <wintemute`> yeah, the fancy little toolbar thing :) It connects, I can ping stuff, maybe bring up one website.... but then the connection closes.
[16:20] <wintemute`> noaXess the conection lasts about a minute. I haven;t tried anything else. How would I go about trying wicd?
[16:20] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[16:20] <noaXess> hey BluesKaj..
[16:21] <Intel_Power> ;;;jhu
[16:21] <noaXess> wintemute`: hm.. just sudo apt-get install wicd and restart kde session
[16:21] <cjae> why  can I only dl 9%  of and .iso and then get the delayed signal on kget (trying to download kubuntu 9.10)
[16:22] <wintemute`> noaXess: tried that in the last version... it uninstalled a bunch of stuff and I ended up without working wireless. I'll go see if that's true now.
[16:23] <noaXess> wintemute`: hm.. just install wicd and try it?.. i have it also installed... and also gone back to kde-network-manager without loosing any wlan functionality
[16:24] <noaXess> how can i disable auto black screen?..
[16:25] <wintemute`> noaXess: i claims it wants to remove the network-manager and plasma-widget-network-manager packages.
[16:26] <noaXess> wintemute`: thats normal.. they are in conflict with wicd.. note them and you can reinstall them
[16:28] <cjae> anyone else having problems downloading 9.10?
[16:30] <wintemute`> noaXess: wicd installed... be back.
[16:31] <wintemute`> that means a reboot, right?
[16:32] <kgeek> i have to ask wats KISD which fails every hrs.. in recent version
[16:35] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: I heard about ext4 Can I choose it?
[16:37] <kgeek> neoandersen: yaa u can i m having this
[16:37] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: and I remember there are options about partition in the begining or in the end... is it important?
[16:38] <wintemute`> noaXess: seems to work. At least, it hasn't lost connection yet. Thanks!
[16:38] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: real partition, virtual partition... I don't remember....
[16:38] <noaXess> wintemute`: your welcome.. :)
[16:41] <neoandersen> kgeek: I am going to install over ubuntu trying to recover it...
[16:41] <kgeek> neoandersen: oh! so   wats prob
[16:41] <noaXess> is there a way to disable black screen for display? my machine goes allways to black screen after minutes, but screensaver and display manager are disabled
[16:41] <neoandersen> kgeek: I updated to 9.10 and lost X
[16:42] <noaXess> neoandersen: reconfigure x..
[16:42] <Dragnslcr> noaXess- check the power management settings. I'm not sure about 9.10, but 9.04 had a couple settings buried in a weird place
[16:42] <neoandersen> kgeek: it is not installing or uninstalling nothing... because of ready only flile system...
[16:43] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, use the manual artitioning option on /
[16:43] <BluesKaj> er partitioning
[16:45] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, choose manual partitoning, then you have to look for the / partition in the list and select it
[16:46] <Idhan> is there any tool to set an image in grub???
[16:46] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: is it going to ask about swap?
[16:47] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, if you have a swap just leave alone
[16:47] <ulysses__> Idhan:
[16:48] <kgeek> neoandersen: #dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorf
[16:48] <ulysses__> there was once kgrubeditor, I don't know what happend with it
[16:48] <BluesKaj> kgeek, please , that has nothing to do with it
[16:49] <kgeek> BluesKaj: y so .mine was also dead i made xserver working using the same
[16:49] <kgeek> BluesKaj: may be i m wrong with neoandersen problem ..
[16:50] <BluesKaj> yes , that was tried many moons ago
[16:50] <neoandersen> kgeek:  I have tried it yesterday: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1309870
[16:50] <kgeek> neoandersen: so that didn't worked?
[16:50] <Idhan> ulysses__: yes?
[16:50] <neoandersen> kgeek: no
[16:50] <kgeek> neoandersen: :P
[16:50] <kgeek> neoandersen: is xsercer installed on ur box
[16:50] <kgeek> xserver*
[16:51] <BluesKaj> kgeek, please don't interupt
[16:51] <neoandersen> kgeek: I can see the files throgh cd and  ls but I can't chage nothing...
[16:51] <kgeek> BluesKaj: sry if u felt so . was just trying to help!  Np
[16:51] <BluesKaj> kgeek, ok
[16:52] <neoandersen> kgeek: : )
[16:52] <BluesKaj> neoandersen, where are you in the install ?
[16:53] <neoandersen> I am in 92% downloading the Ubuntu amd64 on ktorrent...
[16:54] <BluesKaj> well, i have to go do some work ...bbl
[16:54] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: I was going to make backup but I give up, too much stuff...
[16:54] <kgeek> BluesKaj: hey where are u  going dude u said me not to inturrupt n uare going ..!!this is nt justice
[16:55] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: ok, I am going to do what you said
[16:55] <neoandersen> I am going to burn the image now...
[16:55] <BluesKaj> kgeek , he knows what he needs to do
[16:55] <s1300045> supposedly kde 4.3.3 should be avaliable soon, but is there anything really to get excited about?
[16:55] <kgeek> BluesKaj: just joking ..
[16:56] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: can it be burned in an rewriteble cd?
[16:56] <BluesKaj> yes
[16:57] <BluesKaj> going now , remember to choose the manual partitoning option , then choose / as the partition to install on
[16:58] <BluesKaj> then you should be fine
[16:58] <kexman> none of my network interfaces is seen in dmesg
[16:58] <kexman> wtf ??
[16:59] <neoandersen> BluesKaj: what the program to record cd?
[16:59] <u19809> does anybody know if there is a channel for thunderbird ?
[16:59] <neoandersen> k3b : )]
[17:02] <Turin> Руддщ!
[17:02] <Turin> Hello!
[17:04] <ProUbuntu> Hello
[17:15] <ahmedtaufiq> hi
[17:15] <kgeek> i have installed wicd nw i want to enable .default network maneger ..
[17:16] <kgeek> how can i
[17:16] <ahmedtaufiq> can anyone help me on gnu grub
[17:16] <ahmedtaufiq> ?
[17:23] <JonTheNiceGuy> Hi, I've just tried Kubuntu NBR for the first time - I've never really tried KDE before, although I've used Ubuntu for a while. I'm having some difficulty configuring both my 3G dongle and my OpenVPN connections via the Network Manager application. I think I know what the issue is in OpenVPN (no passphrase on the certificate), but I'm struggling to configure the 3G stick for the 3 network in the UK. Does anyone have any tips?
[17:23] <JonTheNiceGuy>  It's a Huawei E156G, which I've had working under Ubuntu before.
[17:23] <JontheEchidna> JonTheNiceGuy: that's a bit of a trouble area for the KDE NetworkManager frontend
[17:23] <JonTheNiceGuy> I did guess that from the bugreports I'd looked at
[17:23] <JonTheNiceGuy> :(
[17:23] <JontheEchidna> you may wish to try installing network-manager-gnome and running nm-applet instead
[17:24] <JontheEchidna> s/running/run
[17:27] <SeicherlBoB> Frage: wenn ich jetzt Kubuntu auf einer Festplatte X installiere (/ mounted on sdX1) und in 2 Monaten eine neue Platte einbaue, kann ich root "einfach" auf eine andere Platte verschieben (dd) und im grup den Eintrag ändern und alles läuft? Oder stell ich mir das gerade zu einfach vor.
[17:27] <Tscheesy> !de | SeicherlBoB
[17:28] <SeicherlBoB> sorry!! my mistake, thought i was in .de
[17:28] <dvheumen> Hi! ... I know there exists some package that allows for the configuration of GTK(2) from a KDE4 desktop ... but I don't remember it's name and I don't seem to recognize it from the package list. Can anyone throw me a bone?
[17:29] <ahmedtaufiq> seems that everyone sleeping here
[17:29] <ahmedtaufiq> no help
[17:29] <SeicherlBoB> If I install kubuntu on a harddrive, can i move the installation later to another drive (dd ?) or is it harder than i think right now?
[17:29] <SeicherlBoB> o.c. modifying grup entries and stuff...
[17:30] <dvheumen> SeicherlBoB, you can, but it's not easy. You'll have to manually modify several configuration files and most likely the kernel image needs to be recreated because of different partitions
[17:30] <dvheumen> it's mostly the low(est)-level configuration that will complain
[17:30] <SeicherlBoB> dvheumen: so simply dd'ing and grup editing wont do it?
[17:31] <ahmedtaufiq> i have multiple os on my pc
[17:31] <ahmedtaufiq> i just want to change the booting list at startup , can any one help ?
[17:32] <SeicherlBoB> ahmedtaufiq: you can edit the grup entries
[17:32] <dvheumen> SeicherlBoB, nope, most likely not
[17:32] <ahmedtaufiq> how
[17:32] <ahmedtaufiq> ?
[17:32] <SeicherlBoB> dvheumen: that means i should buy the new drive before installing ;)
[17:32] <vis> Hi there. :) I've just installed the kde packages to the main ubuntu install - it looks fantastic, I'm very impressed
[17:33] <vis> I can't seem to get my second monitor working properly though
[17:33] <vis> is this a common issue?
[17:33] <SeicherlBoB> ahmedtaufiq: google: grup edit => http://www.google.at/url?q=http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2007/05/ubuntu-how-to-edit-grub-boot-parameters.html&ei=RWnwSr_cB6OOnQP8y5T5Bw&sa=X&oi=spellmeleon_result&resnum=1&ct=result&ved=0CAcQhgIwAA&usg=AFQjCNGVMSP3vs1CF0fxqBYw6sQNKXXXew
[17:34] <clintc> greetings all, I've booted the kubuntu 9.10 cd and I am presented with a login screen, is this normal (never saw this before), what are the creds?
[17:34] <vis> my second monitor is a clone or mirror of the first, and when I identify monitors, both are labeled twice with the names of both monitors
[17:34] <vis> I'm new to kde so I have no idea how to fix this... can anyone help?
[17:35] <dvheumen> SeicherlBoB, yeah that's probably the best idea. Unless you feel comfortable with fixing a broken system that might not even reach the root filesystem during the boot process
[17:35] <SeicherlBoB> vis: what graphics card are you using?
[17:35] <vis> ATI radeon
[17:35] <ahmedtaufiq> its very difficult,
[17:35] <ahmedtaufiq> can u explain in simple way
[17:36] <SeicherlBoB> dvheumen: damn... so no way to wait until xmas ;)
[17:36] <SeicherlBoB> vis: have you ever heard about xrandr?
[17:36] <vis> no, I haven't
[17:36] <SeicherlBoB> vis: then you will, soon ;)
[17:36] <kubunter> ahmedtaufiq: goto /etc/grub.conf
[17:37] <dvheumen> SeicherlBoB, well that depends ... how many free time do you have during xmas ... you could devote a few days to fixing your system :D
[17:37] <dvheumen> *much
[17:37] <vis> lol, found it. does kde already have this tool?
[17:37] <ahmedtaufiq> where to go ? on terminal ?
[17:37] <JonTheNiceGuy> JontheEchidna: I don't suppose you know how to get nm-applet to run when the KDE plasmoid is already running?
[17:37] <JontheEchidna> JonTheNiceGuy: killall knetworkmanager
[17:38] <JonTheNiceGuy> perfect, thanks JontheEchidna
[17:38] <dvheumen> well... no answer to my question it seems ... I'll try later ... bye
[17:38] <JontheEchidna> us Jons have to help each other out you know ;-)
[17:39] <kubunter> ahmedtaufiq: goto /boot/grub/grub.cfg in konsole
[17:39] <ahmedtaufiq> ok then ?
[17:40] <ahmedtaufiq> i have to set windows , on the top of the list
[17:40] <kubunter> ahmedtaufiq: see thru the file
[17:40] <ahmedtaufiq> so that it runs automatically
[17:41] <kubunter> u will find a windows entry
[17:41] <SeicherlBoB> vis: hope you find a way. ATI driver is not so easy to handle. You have to keep in mind, that there are 2 drivers usually: the proprietary one by ATI and one open source. both have different capabilities with different devices. you might have to check a couple of compatibility/feature lists
[17:41] <ahmedtaufiq> yes
[17:41] <clintc> is there a default login for the kubuntu 9.10 cd?
[17:42] <ahmedtaufiq> on konsole it said , permission denied
[17:42] <vis> I have the proprietary driver installed already.. I'm mainly confused because gnome seems to handle dual monitors perfectly
[17:42] <kubunter> ahmedtaufiq: cut and paste it at 1st pos.
[17:42] <kubunter> ahmedtaufiq: do sudo su....u noob
[17:42] <vis> whereas the kde gui for changing those settings seems to be clueless
[17:43] <SeicherlBoB> vis: yes, sometimes it's not so intuitive. but if you manage these things with xrandr, you're fine.
[17:43] <SeicherlBoB> vis:  have you installed it?
[17:43] <vis> no, im googling for a gui interface for it =)
[17:43] <ahmedtaufiq> hey what u said ??
[17:44] <kubunter> ahmedtaufiq: enter thru root permissions
[17:44] <ahmedtaufiq> it will be easier that i uninstall the kubuntu
[17:44] <clintc> is there a boot option I missed? Does anyone else have to login when booting the 9.10 cd?????
[17:44] <kubunter> thats ur wish
[17:44] <ahmedtaufiq> rather than listening ur bad comments
[17:44] <SeicherlBoB> vis: do you understand german?
[17:44] <vis> sorry, no
[17:45] <SeicherlBoB> hmm...
[17:45] <vis> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=927&num=2 this seems pretty decent
[17:45] <SeicherlBoB> vis: yes... i like the phoronix site, they are quite good. go for it!
[17:47] <vis> I can't work out how to stop the second monitor from mirroring the first
[17:47] <SeicherlBoB> vis: the sooner you start dealing with things on terminal, the better anyway ;) quite often, when you have a gui it does in fact use a backend that was designed for terminal execution. so you will have less troubles when you do it yourself on terminal ;)
[17:48] <SeicherlBoB> vis: whats your ATI model?
[17:48] <kexman> can anyone help me fix my networking and get it to work on my laptop ?
[17:48] <vis> I have no idea how to find that out.. lol
[17:48] <kexman> im using BCM4311
[17:48] <kexman> imean that chip
[17:48] <SeicherlBoB> vis: notebook or desktop?
[17:48] <vis> notebook
[17:49] <SeicherlBoB> vis: check the ccc (if installed), maybe you find it there
[17:50] <vis> what's ccc?
[17:50] <SeicherlBoB> vis: catalyst control center
[17:51] <SeicherlBoB> vis: you should see something like this: http://ati.amd.com/images/headers/products/software/CCC-LE-Color.png which tells you the model
[17:53] <vis> bare with me.. ccc isn't in my kde menu
[17:53] <vis> yet
[17:53] <SeicherlBoB> vis: dualscreening worked in gnome?
[17:53] <vis> yeah
[17:53] <SeicherlBoB> vis: ok... did you try xrandr --auto ?
[17:53] <vis> yeah, no change
[17:54] <SeicherlBoB> vis: did you try the various "--left-of" or "--right-of" parameters?
[17:55] <SeicherlBoB> vis: like they say at phoronix: "xrandr --output VGA --auto --right-of LVDS" of course you have to use your connector lables
[17:56] <vis> perfect!
[17:56] <SeicherlBoB> ;)
[17:56] <vis> I was a little confused with the man pages
[17:57] <SeicherlBoB> vis: read the whole article ;) and read the man-page. it will help you a lot. you can do freaky things with xrandr!
[17:57] <vis> i genuinely think that a good working environment affects concentration span!
[17:57] <vis> I just need to move my panel now.. lol
[17:58] <SeicherlBoB> vis: read it twice ;) usually i need even a third time of reading - and read it one by one. start playing around to get a feeling about how the parameters are ment to work.
[17:58] <stefanjrklb> hello :)
[17:59] <vis> thankyou SeicherIBoB
[17:59] <vis> :)
[17:59] <SeicherlBoB> vis: no problem. time to give something back to the community for me ;)
[17:59] <stefanjrklb> I have question how I can check If my Ati drivers are working ?? I installed drivers from ATI and now I want to know if they are working
[18:00] <SeicherlBoB> stefanjrklb: well... you can read this? .. no sorry, that was evil
[18:00] <vis> stefanjrklb: If you're in gnome, a quick way I know of to try is to activate the "extras" display effects
[18:00] <vis> it will either make your windows wobble, or fail
[18:00] <stefanjrklb> i use Kubunttu
[18:00] <vis> although I've just realised this is a kubuntu channel..lol
[18:00] <vis> x)
[18:01] <vis> excuse me.
[18:01] <stefanjrklb> no prob :)
[18:01] <stefanjrklb> I am new i things connected with linux :)
[18:01] <bbigras> is "apt-get purge flashplugin-installer nspluginwrapper" enough to completly remove flash before installing the 64 bit version?
[18:01] <kexman> why the heck doesnt my wired interface show up in dmesg ?
[18:01] <kexman> do i need to lead any specific drivers or do something special ????
[18:01] <SeicherlBoB> stefanjrklb: if you really want to know the performance of your machine, the the phoronix test suite.
[18:02] <SeicherlBoB> s/the/try
[18:03] <SeicherlBoB> stefanjrklb: there you get the test suite: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=pts_20_release&num=1
[18:03] <vis> do you know the command to launch catalyst, SeicherIBOB?
[18:03] <SeicherlBoB> vis: sorry, i havent been using the AMD drivers since 2 years...
[18:04] <stefanjrklb> Ok guys :) but my question I think is very simply for you :)
[18:04] <stefanjrklb> Where I can check that kubuntu is using drivers which I installed recently and now drivers which Kubuntu installed during installation of Kubuntu :)
[18:05] <SeicherlBoB> stefanjrklb: well, that is another question! sorry for misunderstanding
[18:06] <chris____> huhu
[18:06] <SeicherlBoB> stefanjrklb: http://blogs.koolwal.net/2009/04/24/tip-how-to-check-which-video-driver-is-your-x-server-using/
[18:06] <stefanjrklb> thcx
[18:07] <vis> amdccle - catalyst control centre ;)
[18:07] <vis> *amdcccle - catalyst control centre ;)
[18:07] <SeicherlBoB> vis: that looks good ;)
[18:08] <rasta-soul> list
[18:08] <rasta-soul> oilà
[18:09] <JonTheNiceGuy> JontheEchidna: Any idea how to stop knetworkmanager from starting? I've removed it from $HOME/.kde/share/config/plasma-netbookrc but it then whinged on startup that there was already a network manager running.
[18:09] <JontheEchidna> JonTheNiceGuy: sudo apt-get uninstal plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[18:09] <JontheEchidna> uninstall having 2 l's of course ;-)
[18:09] <JonTheNiceGuy> Hmmm, I was hoping not to have to remove it
[18:09] <JonTheNiceGuy> Oh well.
[18:09] <mhz> anyone know where to find nivida geforce 9600M 64 bit driver?
[18:10] <SeicherlBoB> JonTheNiceGuy: i dont know the newest widget, but i use wicd and i can recommend it
[18:10] <JonTheNiceGuy> SeicherlBoB: Does wicd support openvpn and 3g USB modems?
[18:10] <JonTheNiceGuy> If so, I'm there! :)
[18:12] <SeicherlBoB> JonTheNiceGuy: it supports almost everything, especially for wifi with several different security configurations. you can design your own templates, that are then accessible through the gui. sorry, no USB modems as far as i know, but umtsmon does that for me
[18:12] <SeicherlBoB> check google for openvpn with wicd, i bet there already is a howto.
[18:12] <OxDeadC0de> is it a good idea to be using tmpfs for /tmp ? I have plenty of swap and usually about 500mb free ram.. and realize I'll lose everything there when I reboot but some things seem faster (like temporary firefox downloads)
[18:16] <SeicherlBoB> JonTheNiceGuy: look at this: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/moinmoin/3GUsbModem
[18:17] <jschall> hey i'm on rc1, do i need to do anything special to get to 9.10?
[18:18] <JontheEchidna> jschall: just make sure you have the latest updates and you'll have 9.10 final
[18:18] <jschall> cool
[18:18] <JonTheNiceGuy> SeicherlBoB: Thanks for that, I'll hold off for now I think, but defo looking at that for the future! :)
[18:18] <SeicherlBoB> JonTheNiceGuy: and you can define pre- and post-connection scripts, so you could start openvpn "manually" everytime you connect to a specific access point
[18:19] <SeicherlBoB> JonTheNiceGuy: and if you need a vpn everywhere, you can let the daemon run and it will try to connect anyway as soon as it can
[18:26] <Toran> Hi! How can I get compositing/desktop effects to work with dual monitors? I am on a thinkpad laptop with intel 945GM graphics.
[18:27] <SeicherlBoB> Toran: what's the problem? the dual screen or the effects or the performance?
[18:27] <Toran> Desktop effects works when I have just the default screen enabled. As soon as I have my second monitor hooked up and have dual displays going, it no longer has desktop effects
[18:28] <Toran> it's like it isn't even trying to do them. It's not slow or anything, just not present
[18:28] <SeicherlBoB> Toran: ok, sorry, i can't help with that
[18:29] <SeicherlBoB> Toran: have you booted with both displays? have you tried to re-enable it?
[18:29] <Toran> is it possible to get working?
[18:29] <Toran> yes, I've booted with both displays. Re-enabling just instantly causes the message "desktop effects have been disabled..."
[18:30] <SeicherlBoB> Toran: KDE 4.3 ?
[18:30] <Toran> actually, the KDE control center is still broken with dual monitors and I can't use it to configure them, I have to issue an xrandr command to enable it
[18:30] <Toran> 4.3.2
[18:33] <pepeplu> :(
[18:35] <pepeplu> is kpackagekit the same as software center/store?
[18:39] <pepeplu> ...?
[18:43] <mrguitar1> I'm having problems getting openvpn connection to work in knetworkmanager. Saying, "Failed to connect: 'No VPN Secrets!'" anyone know a work around?
[18:46] <goodnight> PROJECT TIMELORD is here
[18:51] <Denis> !de
[18:52] <ice_> bsr à tous
[18:59] <Denis> bonsoir
[18:59] <Denis> und hallo
[19:00] <pepePlu> guys what the hell, why can't i rearrange the task bar windows?
[19:02] <mpower_bmw> why no kde 4.3.3 for kubuntu
[19:02] <busbaby> hey peeps ... anyone on 9.04 know how to get rid of the 9.10 upgrade notification in the taskbar?
[19:05] <mpower_bmw> why no kde 4.3.3 for kubuntu
[19:05] <mpower_bmw> ???
[19:06] <busbaby> mpower_bmw: kubuntu 9.10 has kde 4.3
[19:08] <|moe|> since 9.10 does not use an xorg.conf - where can i set my horizontal scrolling for my synaptics touchpad?
[19:08] <Dragnslcr> mpower_bmw- maybe because 4.3.3 was just released by the KDE team today
[19:10] <busbaby> anyone still on 9.04 know what im talking about?
[19:10] <Carbamide> Hello! Is it possible to, when I plug in my phone to tether, have kppp automatically open?
[19:10] <daeman> Je tu někdo z čech?
[19:11] <Pici> !cx
[19:11] <Pici> !cz
[19:12] <Dragnslcr> busbaby- when you click the update icon, do you get asked about updating to 9.10?
[19:14] <tertitten> probably a stubid question, however I'm in ubuntu 9.10 now, if i install kubuntu-desktop package will I then have kubuntu 9.10 ?
[19:14] <BluesKaj> tertitten, yes
[19:15] <BluesKaj> you'll have both gnome and kde
[19:15] <tertitten> BluesKaj: so no need to do a cleen install of kubuntu, just install kubuntu-desktop and that's it ?
[19:15] <BluesKaj> yes
[19:16] <avihay> but
[19:17] <tertitten> BluesKaj: thanks, avihay: but what ?
[19:17] <BluesKaj> tertitten, but you will still have gnome , so at login you can choose which desktop
[19:17] <avihay> from my experience, installing kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu doesn't install a complete KDE oriented desktop environment
[19:18] <tertitten> OK, I see, then it's probably best to do a clean install, ty guys
[19:18] <BluesKaj> neither does a clean install , depends on what repos are enabled
[19:18] <brendan-> what do you suggest then avihay?
[19:18] <brendan-> do you have a guide?
[19:19] <BluesKaj> !purekde
[19:19] <brendan-> what if i wanna keep gnome and just have the option to go w/ kde?
[19:19] <BluesKaj> brendan-, then you can choose at login
[19:19] <avihay> no, If you have ubuntu installed, kubuntu-desktop will not give you a 100% kde experience without tweaking
[19:20] <brendan-> but i won't need to do the removal commands and just follow the kde setup instructions in that case
[19:20] <BluesKaj> oh brother , here we go again with the blah blah naysayers ...ok have your objections and fun ..I'm gone
[19:20] <avihay> so I suggest that the next time you reinstall ubuntu, consider installing of kubuntu instead
[19:20] <avihay> ignore the of
[19:21] <BluesKaj> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE
[19:21] <brendan-> i just wanna have the optionb to run both
[19:22] <brendan-> so removing gnome would defeat that.. but i assume i can just follow the guide to install kde and have the option on which to boot at login
[19:22] <brendan-> or is that going to screw it up?
[19:23] <avihay> well I never tryed  "sudo aptitude --with-recommends install kubuntu-desktop"
[19:24] <avihay> sounds like a better idea
[19:24] <brendan-> we'll find out
[19:24] <brendan-> :D
[19:26] <|moe|> when I start ubuntu i get the message "clocksource tsc unstable", is that critical?
[19:28] <brendan-> well that completed.. let's see how this goes. brb logging out & back in
[19:29] <busbaby> is anyone still on kubuntu 9.04?
[19:30] <dequire> busbaby: i am
[19:31] <busbaby> are you getting that "upgrade to karmic" notification in the taskbar?
[19:31] <busbaby> i cant get it to go away ... i dont want to upgrade
[19:32] <dice1904> hey
[19:32] <dice1904> sooo i installed this, tried reinstalling OSX, and its saying my HD is not there any more
[19:33] <dice1904> any ideas?
[19:33] <kgeek> i m getting a problem  of KTTSD failed . tell me how to resolve this
[19:33] <busbaby> dequire: ??
[19:35] <dice1904> no one?
[19:37] <Dragnslcr> busbaby- when you click the update icon, do you get asked about updating to 9.10?
[19:37] <busbaby> yes
[19:38] <Dragnslcr> And are you checking the "Don't ask again" checkbox and clicking "No"?
[19:38] <busbaby> actually, i don't see that option
[19:39] <mhz> got it installed, just can't get the wireless working but that's on me
[19:39] <mhz> i do like the kde environment though
[19:39] <mhz> t'is sexy
[19:40] <busbaby> when i double click on the icon in the taskbar, the window pops up ... at the top on the window it says "Distribution upgrade available" "The latest stable release" "Upgrade to karmic 9.10"
[19:42] <Thundercross> *WB(bowser)WB* - <Bowser> wheee! <Bowser> http://reality.homelinux.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=4298 <Bowser> I want to play DDR against a ghost.
[19:42] <kgeek> busbaby: upgrade  it them y are  u loving to be lagged
[19:43] <penguin_> hi all )
[19:43] <busbaby> kgeek: i already tried it on a different box ... i wasnt impressed and i noticed some performance issues
[19:44] <penguin_> I need help
[19:44] <penguin_> who can help me ?
[19:45] <Dragnslcr> busbaby- hm, I tried answering "No", and the update notifier is still there. Dunno offhand how to hide it, other than killing the notifier entirely
[19:45] <busbaby> penguin_: lol - why dont you ask and we'll try
[19:45] <busbaby> Dragnslcr: cool .. thanks anyways
[19:45] <kgeek> penguin_: say  ur problem ....whosoever weill be able to solve will solve
[19:45] <penguin_> how I can install compiz in kubuntu 9.10 ??
[19:46] <busbaby> penguin_: its basically already installed
[19:47] <busbaby> penguin_: goto "system setting" --> "desktop" --> "desktop effects" --> "all effects"
[19:47] <busbaby> you can play around with everything there
[19:48] <Dragnslcr> penguin_- KDE 4 does its own compositing, and compiz doesn't always work well with KDE (it was designed for Gnome), so it may not be supported anymore
[19:48] <penguin_> ok
[19:48] <bowser> hi all, Kaffeine, VLC, Miro, I get no video whatsoever, sound plays thought
[19:49] <bowser> any idea? I do have medibuntu packages
[19:49] <gianpiero> !list
[19:50] <bowser> VLC says it does not support avc1/xvid depending in file
[19:50] <kgeek> bowser: had u installed VLC n all
[19:50] <xntech> i love 9.10, this is a sexy OS
[19:51] <bowser> kgeek: please? my vlc is 1.0.2 goldeneye
[19:52] <kgeek> bowser: mine is same as well
[19:52] <kgeek> bowser: mine is working very fine ..
[19:53] <lakis> i have installed kubuntu karmic .. what should i do so that every time i log to kubuntu the NTFS partition that has the windows installed is mounted automatically ??? please help ..
[19:53] <kgeek> bowser: had u done #sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/karmic.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[19:54] <bowser> kgeek: yes, i do have karmic medibuntu repo
[19:55] <bowser> kgeek: it is that no player displays video at all
[19:55] <dice1904> my USB thing isnt working :-/
[19:56] <busbaby> lakis: first try to mount it to some folder in your home dir first
[19:56] <busbaby> do you know how to do that?
[19:56] <lakis> no
[19:57] <busbaby> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/blah
[19:57] <busbaby> where blah is the partition holding windows
[19:57] <lakis> busbaby i want to mention
[19:57] <lakis> that
[19:58] <Guilo44> hi all !
[19:58] <Guilo44> I have a problem with files I cna't manage
[19:58] <dice1904> hi guilo
[19:58] <bbeck> Anyone have a clue as to when KDE 4.3.3 will become available in the repos?
[19:58] <lakis> in the previous versions of kubuntu when i opened dolphin manager , in the list on the left it was always appeared there and i was just giving a password if i wanted to access it...
[19:58] <Guilo44> they have been saved by museeq which filesystem coding was set to ISOCP1250
[19:58] <Guilo44> so files with accents have ? in there names
[19:59] <Guilo44> and I can't move/copy/del them
[19:59] <lakis> so busbaby ??
[19:59] <busbaby> try using dolphin and navigate to /dev/<whatever>
[20:00] <lakis> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/windows
[20:00] <lakis> this is what i gave
[20:00] <roKB> is no one else getting 'starting KTTSD failed' problem in kubuntu karmic every few minutes ??
[20:01] <bowser> #ubuntu
[20:01] <bbeck> roKB: do you have the clock setup to speak the time?
[20:01] <roKB> lakis: /dev/windows OR /dev/sda2 (something like that) ?
[20:02] <lakis> i gave sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/windows but it didnt do anything.. it just opened in terminal the help for mount command
[20:02] <roKB> bbeck: yes
[20:03] <bbeck> roKB: If you don't have KTTSD installed then that's the error message it will produce.
[20:03] <aLeSD_> does kubuntu uses pulseaudio ?
[20:03] <Guest19461> Hello ive ben tryin to figure out if it is possible to install ventrillo on kubuntu?
[20:04] <reagleBRKLN> KDE news says there's 4.3.3 debs on the kubuntu news page, but i don't see info
[20:04] <jschall> Guest19461: yes, install the "wine" package, go to appdb.winehq.org and search for ventrilo.
[20:04] <reagleBRKLN> http://kde.org/info/4.3.3.php
[20:04] <Guest19461> ok ty
[20:04] <jschall> Guest19461: for detailed instructions
[20:04] <n16h7f0x> if after installed apache /var/www was reacreated is there any chance i can recover it's containment? (ext4 filesystem)
[20:05] <roKB> lakis: type 'sudo parted /dev/sda' for knowing which partition is of windows
[20:05] <roKB> lakis: when you get (parted) prompt, type 'print'
[20:05] <jschall> Guest19461: i have to go now but if you go to #winehq, they can help you, as can probably almost anyone here.
[20:05] <hagabaka> my display is having horizontal narrow flickering bands throughout the screen, more noticiable to the right. they're there both in KDE and the konsole...
[20:05] <Guest19461> ok ty
[20:05] <hagabaka> *the console
[20:05] <lakis> rokb and how do i find out whicch is the partition of windows ?
[20:05] <lakis> sda or sdb or whatever..
[20:06] <bbeck> Guest19461: looking at the ventrillo website, it appears that a Linux client is in the works, but not out yet.
[20:06] <Guest19461> yeah thats what i was lookin at earlier just double checking
[20:07] <Guest19461> i have another question
[20:08] <lakis> rokb and how do i find out whicch is the partition of windows ?
[20:08] <Guest19461> i play guildwars alot and i know that linux can make it run smoother then its is doin right now
[20:09] <roKB> lakis: what is the output of 'print' command in (parted) prompt
[20:09] <roKB> lakis: ?
[20:09] <lakis> GNU Parted 1.8.8.1.159-1e0e
[20:09] <lakis> Using /dev/sda
[20:09] <lakis> Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands.
[20:09] <lakis> (parted)
[20:09] <FloodBotK1> lakis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:11] <lakis> rokb now it is mounted
[20:11] <lakis> i can see it in dolhpin manager
[20:12] <lakis> but how can it always be mounted everytime i log to kubuntu?
[20:13] <roKB> lakis: write a line in /etc/fstab for windows partition
[20:13] <lakis> ok but how?
[20:16] <lakis> rokb ?
[20:16] <roKB> lakis: which partion is windows, /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2 or something else ?
[20:16] <lakis> i dont know rokb..how can i see this ..
[20:16] <roKB> lakis: sudo parted /dev/sda
[20:16] <roKB> lakis: print
[20:20] <lakis> rokb did you see ?
[20:21] <Luggage> how can I find out what happened if starting kubuntu leads to a black screen, after reset button it boots fine, would like to know the problem, I haven changed any system settings, configs anything like that from yesterday to today, but today it did the boot to black thing twice, and fixed after hitting reset button on the pc.
[20:22] <Luggage> any log location im missing, system logs app in kdm doesn show anything noteworthy
[20:22] <Luggage> (kubuntu 9.04)
[20:24] <roKB_> lakis: sorry, i was disconnected
[20:25] <bbeck> Luggage: It sounds like a problem with X, so most likely the problem will be logged in the x.org log file.  (If you don't see it there, check the syslog.)
[20:25] <roKB_> lakis: what u get in output of (parted)print ?
[20:25] <lakis> rokb i told you
[20:26] <Luggage> thanks bbeck
[20:26] <lakis> Partition Table: msdos
[20:26] <lakis> Number  Start   End     Size    Type      File system     Flags
[20:26] <lakis>  1      32.3kB  8998MB  8998MB  primary   ext4
[20:26] <lakis>  2      8998MB  9500MB  502MB   extended
[20:26] <lakis>  5      8998MB  9500MB  502MB   logical   linux-swap(v1)
[20:26] <FloodBotK1> lakis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:26] <lakis>  3      9500MB  32.0GB  22.5GB  primary   ntfs            boot
[20:28] <lakis> rokb : so ??
[20:29] <Guilo> how can I manage files with unrecognized symbols in their name ?
[20:29] <Guilo> dolphin says they don't exist
[20:30] <busbaby> Guilo: use konsole ... and what are you trying to do with them? remove, move.... ?
[20:30] <Guilo> I would like to rename them so they would be usable
[20:30] <Guilo> but I can neither rename nor copy nor delete them even with konsole
[20:31] <Guilo> how could i select all files in a folder and rename thmen in a straiht to files without these special charcaters
[20:31] <busbaby> you should be able to see them right? (ie: ls -l)
[20:31] <Guilo> yes they are visible
[20:32] <Guilo> but I can't do anything with them
[20:32] <busbaby> ok, paste one in here ... i want to see what chars you talking about
[20:32] <Guilo> example :
[20:32] <Guilo> mv "Strollad - La F�te Du Slip - 01 - La F�te Du Slip.mp3" 01.mp3
[20:32] <Guilo> mv: ne peut évaluer `Strollad - La F�te Du Slip - 01 - La F�te Du Slip.mp3': Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
[20:33] <busbaby> try: cat badfilename.mp3 > goodfilename.mp3
[20:34] <Guilo> cat: Strollad - La F�te Du Slip - 01 - La F�te Du Slip.mp3: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
[20:34] <Guilo> (no file or folder of this type i guess)
[20:34] <Thundercross> *WB(bowser)WB* - <Bowser> wheee! <Bowser> http://reality.homelinux.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=4298 <Bowser> I want to play DDR against a ghost.
[20:34] <busbaby> what is that? german? i dont understand the last part
[20:34] <Guilo> it's french and may mean no file or folder of this type i guess
[20:35] <busbaby> did you try double quotes around the bad-file-name?
[20:35] <Luggage> lol bbeck the only errors i found in the black screen boot are in the succesful boot afterwards too hmmm mystery still then :)
[20:35] <Guilo> yes I have just tried and it's the same problem
[20:35] <busbaby> hmmm
[20:36] <Guilo> for info these files have been created by museeq which was set to : filesystem encoding IS0-CP1250
[20:36] <busbaby> have you tried single quotes?
[20:37] <Guilo> same
[20:38] <busbaby> i just tried it ... it works for me
[20:38] <Guilo> something more : if I do ls -l I can see  Strollad - Yec Hed Mat - 11 - Un P'tit D?tail.mp3 with the ? in a little square
[20:39] <Guilo> but if i do mv * i've got Strollad - Yec Hed Mat - 11 - Un P\'tit D\351tail.mp3 and an error next
[20:39] <Guilo> so it seems the ? has been replaced by 351
[20:39] <mhz> you guys recommend a good site for kde themes?
[20:39] <mhz> this default one is yucky
[20:40] <andrewmin> When I turn on my computer, KDE won't connect automatically to my wireless network (WPA2 encrypted). It connects fine in Ubuntu and Xubuntu, but in Kubuntu, I have to delete the connection and manually add it agian
[20:40] <andrewmin> I've updated all my packages, too
[20:40] <mhz> did you enable it to connect automatically?
[20:41] <andrewmin> mhz: yup
[20:41] <andrewmin> mhz: and then i turned it off and rebooted
[20:41] <andrewmin> sameerror
[20:41] <BluesKaj> mhz, kde-looks
[20:41] <Guilo> is it possible to set konsole to work in something else than utf 8 ?
[20:45] <Luggage-AFK> andrewmin: add the details to /etc/network/interfaces manually? solved it for me to auto connect and also to connect to hidden essid
[20:45] <Luggage-AFK> but its a different pc then here so I cant check how exactly i put it up again
[20:45] <andrewmin> Luggae-AFK: How exactly would you add?
[20:46] <Luggage-AFK> edit the /etc/network/interface with kate or similar after stopping networking
[20:46] <andrewmin> Luggage-AFK: Right, but what interface would you add? wlan?
[20:46] <Luggage-AFK> then start networking, should work on boot then, it does for my mothers pc, but im at my home now or i'd check for you
[20:47] <Luggage-AFK> ifconfig -a
[20:47] <Luggage-AFK> add the appropriate one for your wireless, in my momś pc itś wlan0 tht needed to be added
[20:47] <andrewmin> Luggae-AFK: Thanks
[20:47] <andrewmin> just add the wlan0 line?
[20:48] <Luggage-AFK> if you are back tomorrow I can promise to check and write down how I did it there
[20:49] <Guilo> using windows-1250 encoding in konsole helped me to delete my files but not to rename them
[20:49] <Luggage-AFK> its something like:
[20:49] <Luggage-AFK> auto wlan0
[20:49] <Guilo> thanks for your help busbaby
[20:50] <Luggage-AFK> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[20:50] <Luggage-AFK> then the details like wireless_essid myrouter
[20:50] <jamo> if got a question. I want to install a ati graphic driver in kubuntu sry for the question but i've this system new
[20:50] <jamo> installed
[20:50] <jamo> can anybody help me
[20:51] <Luggage-AFK> wireless_key blablaba etc.. There shoudl be a forum post on ubuntuforums, thats where I found the help to get the wlan at my momś running automatically on boot and with a hidden ssid
[20:52] <Luggage-AFK> if you are back tomorrow I can paste you how its set up and working over at moms
[20:53] <cuznt> i need some hard drive format help please. I wish to partition my 320 g sata instead of the 500 g it wants to in ubiquity
[20:53] <Luggage-AFK> otherwise good luck, and im sure thereś a useful opost in the forums that helped me :)
[20:54] <markus__> hy everybody
[20:55] <markus__> I use kopete and skype at the same time. kopete displays all messages that skype receives. problem is skype does the same. is there a way to stop that?
[20:55] <markus__> and I would like to get rid of the skype icon as the kopete one is enough.
[21:01] <cuznt> !format
[21:02] <Ded1cated> after installing kubuntu-desktop and after a graphical login i get kicked back to the login screen (graphical) bevore the first item of the "loadbar" appears
[21:03] <Luggage-AFK> that happened to me with a bad display driver coniguration
[21:03] <Luggage-AFK> but dont know how to help you out :(
[21:06] <Ded1cated> my xorg is pretty empty, and should be default
[21:07] <Luggage-AFK> found more or less 3 causes when I was trying to trouble shoot when it happened here
[21:07] <Luggage-AFK> trying to remember the other causes, for me it was the display driver, it was the thing last attempted by me on my first linux install lol, i botched and on next boot had the login loop
[21:08] <nomopofomo> i just created a new ext4 partition with the kde partition manager. how do i start using it?
[21:09] <BluesKaj> nomopofomo, install an OS on it
[21:09] <Luggage> lol
[21:10] <Luggage> was afraid of offending wanted to reply put files on it, or ask to define starting to use it :)
[21:10] <nomopofomo> i mean i can't access it in my file manager, so i'm guessing i have to mount it
[21:10] <nomopofomo> maybe i have to restart?
[21:10] <dragan_> kako se ovo koristi
[21:11] <Mamarok> dragan_: English, please
[21:11] <Luggage> dragan check /dev/ folder for device name
[21:11] <Luggage> or use lshw or such
[21:12] <Luggage> then E.g. sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 I think
[21:12] <dragan_> serbian, please
[21:12] <Luggage> in konsole
[21:12] <chronos> hello
[21:12] <chronos> :)
[21:12] <Luggage> hi chronos
[21:13] <chronos> I have a kubuntu install cd, 9.10
[21:13] <chronos> and a ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop package, 9.04
[21:13] <BluesKaj> nomopofomo, do a google search for mounting partitions and adding them to fstab
[21:13] <chronos> I can make upgrade using files of cdrom from my desktop install?
[21:13] <chronos> or only using internet or a new install with cdrom
[21:14] <dparker> I just authorized a system update for my 9.10 install and got a message that an unauthenticated package had been installed - any idea what that might be?  I wasn't asked any questions, and I don't see anything in any logs indicating what it was.
[21:15] <cuznt> there does not seem to be a PartitionManager
[21:16] <BluesKaj> nomopofomo, http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/mounting.html
[21:16] <Dragnslcr> !info partitionmanager | cuznt
[21:16] <chronos> dparker, I think that it means that third party packages (packages than not official packages) won't be upgraded
[21:16] <cuznt> im on a love cd
[21:16] <paul___> hi2all)
[21:16] <cuznt> live rather
[21:17] <dparker> chronos - that wasn't the wording though - it was "was installed"
[21:17] <Dragnslcr> cuznt- if partitionmanager isn't on the CD, use gparted instead
[21:18] <chronos> ahn guys, no way of use files of livecd to update from installed distro?
[21:18] <cuznt> gparted qtparted is not installed
[21:19]  * cuznt brings up the run command and types it all in each of its own of course
[21:20] <Dragnslcr> cuznt- did you try actually installing the packages?
[21:20] <properz> hi , i changed resultion but my bar still not in all screen
[21:20] <cuznt> i am on a live cd. trying to manually partition my 320g sata
[21:20] <Dragnslcr> The LiveCD doesn't install every package on the disc in the live environment
[21:20] <nomopofomo> how do i get the uuid of a partition?
[21:20] <cuznt> by default for some reason it thinks my 500 g is the master
[21:21] <Dragnslcr> Probably because the 500 GB disk is connected to SATA1
[21:21] <cuznt> its not sata
[21:21] <Dragnslcr> In that case, PATA disks come before SATA disks
[21:22] <cuznt> !
[21:22] <BluesKaj> nomopofomo, /dev/sdax is usually enough to id a partition
[21:22] <Dragnslcr> I guess that would be up to your BIOS
[21:22] <cuznt> hrmmmm
[21:22] <cuznt> i will return!
[21:22] <cuznt> thanks
[21:23] <Dragnslcr> cuznt- so did you actually try installing the partitionmanager package?
[21:23] <Dragnslcr> Oy
[21:24] <ncfi1013> what is another name for aptitude, if there is one, because i have it running and i want to turn it off and i cant find it in system activity.
[21:24] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, you can lead a horse to water........ we seem to be getting a lot of doubters or non - listeners in here
[21:25] <properz> how i enable effects ? i cant its tell me congiuare X server something
[21:26] <hagabaka> properz: do you use an ATI card?
[21:26] <properz> i have NVIDIA card
[21:26] <properz> 9500GT
[21:26] <hagabaka> oh
[21:26] <Dragnslcr> ncfi1013- apt-get, synaptic, and kpackagekit are the first ones that come to mind that might have the APT database locked
[21:26] <properz> oh is good or bad ?
[21:27] <hagabaka> well I don't know what to do with nvidia
[21:27] <Dragnslcr> properz- you might need to install the restricted drivers
[21:27] <properz> dragnlscr : i have the driver i just dont know how to install it
[21:27] <hagabaka> I use an ATI card, desktop effects worked in jaunty but not in karmic, I had to set up "kernel mode setting" to get it to work
[21:27] <Dragnslcr> There should be an icon in the system tray for restricted drivers
[21:28] <|moe|_> hagabaka: where did you set that up?
[21:29] <properz> Dranglscr : there is README in nvidia how ot install or something ?
[21:29] <Dragnslcr> properz- you shouldn't need to look at any README files
[21:29] <Dragnslcr> properz- Kubuntu handles it all through a graphical interface
[21:29] <ncfi1013> what would i look for in system activity to turn it off?
[21:30] <Dragnslcr> ncfi1013- if none of those programs are running, the database lock might have gotten stuck
[21:30] <Dragnslcr> !aptfix | ncfi1013
[21:30] <hagabaka> |moe|_:  I needed to add the x-edgers ppa, and then add a file containing "options radeon modeset=1" in /etc/modprobe.d. desktop effects work now, but X server has crashed a few times
[21:31] <|moe|_> hagabaka: thank you!
[21:31] <hagabaka> np
[21:31] <properz> so how i can use effects ? /=
[21:32] <BluesKaj> properz,, system settings/desktop/desktopeffects - enable
[21:32] <dpl8tex> hay all
[21:33] <properz> BlueKaj : its enabled but it tell me i need to congiuare something X Server
[21:34] <hagabaka> properz: what's the exact error? does it say "Failed to activate desktop effects..." or something else?
[21:34] <properz> one sec i tell you
[21:34] <properz> the following effects could not be activated : .......
[21:34] <properz> in the first time i try its tell me configuare something
[21:35] <hagabaka> disable it and enable again, and see if you get that message
[21:36] <tech404> I'd like to find a balance between encryption and performance. I will be the only user of the system. Would anyone have an opinion about encrypting /var and /home with preboot luks, swap encrypted with a random, as well as putting /tmp on tmpfs? Would data in /home be safe?
[21:36] <properz> please check your X - server
[21:37] <hosified> yep, it's official...kde better then gnome in my opinion....;)
[21:38] <properz> how i enable effects ? i get error ( configuare X server)
[21:38] <nomopofomo> ok so i've got the new partition in fstab now but i can't use it because of permissions, i think... how do i properly set up the disk as a regular user disk and not for admin only?
[21:38] <hosified> I only switched to ubuntu as my fulltime desktop about 7 months ago...today, I'm proudly on kubuntu...;D
[21:39] <nomopofomo> yeah just double checked, root can create folders but i can't on my regular account
[21:39] <ncfi1013> dragnslcr: i did as you and ubottu suggested. would the two of you explain to me what i just did?
[21:40] <nomopofomo> do i want to use chown?
[21:40] <Dragnslcr> ncfi1013- did it work?
[21:41] <hosified> nomopofomo: I remember when I wanted to automount my disks I had the same issue...what I did you resolve it was setup a subfolder on my disk called files and then modified the permissions to allow me to write to that folder.
[21:41] <ncfi1013> dragnslcr kpackagekit opens but not adept
[21:41] <nomopofomo> hosified: i think i just want to change the owner of the folder that the disk is mounted to
[21:42] <hosified> nomopofomo:  yeah, you can do that as well.  The folder should have a placeholder created under /media
[21:42] <Dragnslcr> ncfi1013-  I think KPackageKit doesn't try to lock the APT database until it actually installs or modifies packages, while Adept tries to lock the database when it first starts
[21:42] <hosified> try to use chmod 777 on the folder (ie. chmod 777 /media/sda1)
[21:42] <properz> how i enable effects ? i get error ( configuare X server)
[21:42] <hosified> or change the ownership via the chown command
[21:43] <ncfi1013> im getting read only mode in adept
[21:43] <nomopofomo> hosified: yeah i just did :P
[21:43] <hosified> did it work?
[21:43] <ncfi1013> that usually means another pkg mgr is open
[21:44] <nomopofomo> yeah there was no placeholder in media though, it's an ext4 partition that i pointed to a folder in my home director
[21:44] <ncfi1013> is there something running in the background?
[21:44] <properz> how i login as root ? in terminal
[21:44] <properz> what command i need
[21:44] <hosified> oh, ok.  Same principle tough....glad you got it figued out...
[21:44] <nomopofomo> thx!
[21:44] <Dragnslcr> ncfi1013- KPackageKit, Adept, aptitude, etc. are all just frontends for APT. To make sure that multiple APT programs don't interfere with each other (which could cause major problems), an APT program gets a lock on the database to prevent other programs from accessing the database at the same time
[21:44] <ncfi1013> how do i find out?
[21:44] <hosified> properz: sudo su
[21:45] <Dragnslcr> ncfi1013- I don't know if there's a way to see which program locked the APT database. You may just have to look through the process list for any programs
[21:46] <properz> how i configuare my X Server ? ( i want get my graphic card work)
[21:46] <hosified> properz: what kind of vid card do you have?
[21:46] <ncfi1013> that part i know. i just dont know specifically what to look for
[21:47] <Dragnslcr> ncfi1013- kpackagekit, apt-get, adept, aptitude, synaptic
[21:47] <Dragnslcr> ncfi1013- those would be my first guesses
[21:47] <ncfi1013> oh
[21:48] <rerushg> proper: how about...... System>Hardware Drivers.......?
[21:49] <ncfi1013> dragnslcr: kpackagekitsmarticon maybe?
[21:50] <Dragnslcr> I dunno, maybe
[21:50] <Riddell> ** Getting KDE 4 ready for LTS talk in #ubuntu-classroom in 10 minutes
[21:50] <Dragnslcr> One thing you could try is opening Konsole and doing "sudo more /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[21:50] <Dragnslcr> I don't know if the lock file will have any information in it, but it's worth a shot
[21:51] <ncfi1013> dragnslcr: nope nothing
[21:51] <rerushg> ncfi1013: reboot maybe?
[21:52] <properz> sorry i didnt wat here
[21:52] <properz> how i configuare my X Server ? ( i want get my graphic card work) i have nvidia 9500gt
[21:52] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I was about to say, at this point it might be easiest to logout and log back in, and if that doesn't fix the problem, reboot
[21:52] <ncfi1013> in system activity what does renice process mean?
[21:53] <Dragnslcr> Did you run that command that ubottu gave you?
[21:53] <rerushg> properz: should be automatic.... try menu: System > Hardware Drivers
[21:53] <ncfi1013> yes
[21:53] <Dragnslcr> "nice" is the Unix term for priority
[21:53] <Dragnslcr> And you still get an error about the database being locked?
[21:54] <ncfi1013> yes
[21:54] <properz> refuseg : i  tired its not automatic
[21:55] <rerushg> properz: card does not show up in list?
[21:55] <properz> rareug : no
[21:55] <BluesKaj> properz, you have to make sure your graphics card driver is correctly installed, xorg isn't necessary to run kubuntu now. Your graphics driver should be the nvidia-glx-185 driver, look in kpackagekit or your package manager for the installed driver
[21:55] <Dragnslcr> ncfi1013- I don't know what else to suggest, other than logout, and if that doesn't work, do a full reboot
[21:56] <hosified> does anyone know why amarok doesn't download lyrics?
[21:56] <ncfi1013> i killed kpackagekitsmarticon and adept is still read only. thank you for your help. i know more now than 20 minutes ago
[21:56] <properz> bluekaj : i have glx-190 driver
[21:56] <hosified> doesn't seem to work on a fresh install
[21:56] <stefanjrklb> Hello Guys :) I have a question for experience linux users :)
[21:57] <hackfrost> hi
[21:57] <stefanjrklb> What should i read to get to know kubuntu/ubuntu better :)
[21:57] <stefanjrklb> I am new in this staff :)
[21:57] <ncfi1013> kubuntu.org
[21:57] <properz> how i configuare my X Server ? ( i want get my graphic card work) i have nvidia 9500gt
[21:57] <hosified> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html
[21:58] <brendan-> anyone able to recommend a visio substitute for *nix?
[21:58] <hackfrost> you can also type man "your command" in the Konsole
[21:59] <hackfrost> for example "man apt-get"
[21:59] <hosified> properz: is there not a little green icon that looks like a pci card in your taskbar, bottom right hand side?
[21:59] <|moe|_> sun tells me that my version is sun java15 but update 17 is most actual, where do i get this update for karmic?
[21:59] <hosified> you need to enable the restricted nvidia drivers.
[22:00] <kristian1> torchlight, by the makers of diablo 2. make yourself heard: http://forums.runicgames.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=901
[22:00] <hosified> otherwise, you can enable it through the applications -> system -> hardware drivers option in the "K" menus....
[22:03] <ncfi1013>  would the nvidia graphics driver version 185 be compatible with my nvidia geforce 9400 evga and not cause problems with my gui?
[22:03] <hosified> yes, they should work fine...they work great for my 8600 GT.
[22:03] <hosified> .....so far, so good anyways...;)
[22:04] <hosified> but you never can be 100% sure...
[22:04] <hosified> until you try.
[22:04] <properz> my effects still dont work ! its tell me configuare X Server !!
[22:05] <hosified> properz: you have to reboot after you install/enable the nvidia drivers.
[22:05] <Shura> Hi, I don't have the "crypto" menu in Konqueror configuration, is it normal ?
[22:05] <properz> hosifiled : i rebooted
[22:05] <hackfrost> how can I make my eeepc boot faster ?
[22:05] <properz> hosifiled : i using virtualbox
[22:05] <hosified> effects won't work in a virtual machine.
[22:06] <properz> hostifiled : yes they are i used in the past
[22:06] <properz> just tell me how to configuare X server .
[22:06] <RussellAlan> ubuntuI started my Kubuntu box and i get Mount of filesystem failed | s msintenance shel will now be started.
[22:07] <properz> how to configuare X SERVER !!! GODDD DAMMT
[22:08] <ncfi1013> hosified see i had problems with my old onboard and i had to redo my whole system by logging into dos - i call it dos cuz im not sure what its called now
[22:09] <hosified> properz:  hold on....i'm looking for the config file....
[22:09] <ncfi1013> i am just worried/paranoid the same will happen again and i dont know very well how to fix it if im not looking at a gui
[22:10] <properz> hosifled : ok
[22:10] <danielix> hi there!
[22:11] <hosified> try editiing /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:11] <hosified> that contains the default display settings for your x-server display.
[22:11] <hosified> for options in that file, you'll have to google...
[22:12] <danielix> great distro Kubuntu had become with 9.10 !! thnx to all
[22:13] <danielix> alldow I have one issue with the 5.1 sound configuration
[22:13] <danielix> I will state my doubt here if alowed
[22:14] <hosified> properz: also, if your inside a virtual machine....ie virtualbox...you need to install the virtualbox guest additions
[22:14] <properz> hosifiled : i installed
[22:14] <hosified> k, just checking
[22:14] <properz> i need configuare x server
[22:15] <hosified> did you enable 3d acceleration on the virtual machine and grant enough video memory?
[22:15] <properz> oh one sec
[22:15] <hosified> well, xorg.conf should be the file for that...search google for the specific options that you can set.
[22:16] <danielix> Is there a way to configure more than just one master channel? so when I will try to pull up the volumen from the kmix then all the sliders selected will move toghether
[22:16] <properz> hosifiled : right now i do
[22:17] <hosified> so right now you have the 3d enabled, atleast 32mb of video memory and the guest additions installed....
[22:17] <hosified> and you've rebooted.
[22:17] <properz> hosifiled : what the hell when i rebotted my computer
[22:17] <properz> i got virutal terminal
[22:17] <hosified> ??
[22:18] <properz> i cant use my computer
[22:18] <hosified> I believe left ctrl + alt + F7 will force graphical mode.
[22:18] <TheWoozle> Is it possible to run dpkg on a filesystem other than the one you booted from (e.g. on the hard drive, when you boot from a liveCD)?
[22:18] <properz> when i reboot him its join me to place with commands
[22:18] <hosified> does it say tty1?
[22:19] <properz> hosfiled : YES !
[22:19] <hosified> hmmm.....
[22:19] <hosified> press left ctrl + alt + f7
[22:20] <properz> i presse
[22:20] <hosified> make sure you have captured the mouse in the virtual machine...
[22:20] <hosified> hmmm....
[22:20] <properz> its stuck when i preesed
[22:20] <hosified> jeeze, I have no idea what you got done now....
[22:20] <hosified> you don't have the cd still mounted do you?
[22:20] <properz> no
[22:21] <properz> its because the command
[22:21] <hosified> did you modify xorg.conf in any way?
[22:21] <properz> hm
[22:21] <hosified> restore the original.
[22:21] <hosified> if you made a backup...;)
[22:21] <properz> i remember i write
[22:21] <properz> nvidia-xconfig
[22:21] <properz> or something
[22:21] <hosified> see, you can't use nvidia-settings inside a virtual machine.  The virtual machine doesn't have direct write capabilities to the video card.
[22:21] <hosified> it uses emulated drivers...
[22:22] <hosified> what is your host operating system?
[22:22] <properz> i told you i remember before like 3 months i got virtualbox+kubuntu + graphic card work
[22:22] <properz> windows 7
[22:22] <hosified> did you just upgrade to windows 7?
[22:22] <hosified> say in the past month or so?
[22:23] <TheWoozle> I need to either run dpkg on the hard drive from a liveCD, or else I need to figure out how to remount the root system as writeable (for some reason it is getting mounted read-only).
[22:23] <hosified> the graphics should work using the guest additions drivers...but I don't expect you to get your affects working...i've never seen it working in virtualbox....
[22:24] <hosified> i've only heard recently that Vmware Workstation 7 has full 3d acceleration and graphics capabilities...
[22:24] <hosified> especially on Windows 7.
[22:24] <properz> ok you know what
[22:24] <properz> i install now my kubuntu
[22:25] <hosified> kubuntu runs great as a host...;)
[22:25] <hosified> ditch the windows....take the challenge...:D
[22:25] <properz> i have one question before
[22:25] <properz> there is any way to write fixmbr / fixboot without use windows disc ?
[22:26] <hosified> just so you know, I run WIndows 7 inside a virtualbox VM on my kubuntu host, it doesn't give me 3d graphics and effects....
[22:26] <properz> there is any way to write fixmbr / fixboot without use windows disc ?
[22:27] <hosified> fixmbr / fixboot?  sorry, never heard of it...
[22:27] <properz> ok thanks
[22:27] <hosified> the only time I ever repaired a windows boot record was with the fdisk command
[22:27] <hosified> on a bootable floppy...
[22:27] <properz> i know when i install kubuntu
[22:27] <properz> i didnt get the windows in grub
[22:28] <properz> and then i need fix it with a disc
[22:28] <hosified> no, you can modify the grub configuration to show the windows installation...i'm assuming you are setting up a dual boot installation.
[22:28] <hosified> google dual boot ubuntu windows grup
[22:28] <hosified> correction: google dual boot ubuntu windows grub
[22:29] <properz> hosfield : after  i install kubuntu
[22:29] <properz> i need to download something
[22:29] <properz> to get graphic card work ?
[22:30] <hosified> if you install kubuntu on your host, you should then get the green card icon in the bottom right of your task bar to enable the restricted nvidia drivers...which will in turn state that you need to reboot and then the effects will work.
[22:30] <hosified> nvidia right?
[22:30] <properz> yes nvidia
[22:30] <properz> so i need press the green card icon in the task bar ?
[22:31] <hosified> ok, that's what should happen...I just installed kubuntu today...I was running ubuntu for the past 7 months.  If the green icon doesn't appear in the taskbar/system tray...you can find it under Applications -> System -> Hardware Drivers from the "K" menus....
[22:31] <properz> ok thanks , last question , how much size i need to do in swap area ?
[22:31] <hosified> in there, you'll need to select the driver version and click enable....
[22:32] <hosified> I usually let it automatically choose.....personally I don't use any swap cause I have 4GB of ram and I carefully monitor my memory allocation.
[22:32] <hosified> However, a good size would be 512 - 1024....
[22:32] <properz> i have 4gb ram too
[22:32] <hosified> if your disk is swapping out anymore then that, your system performance will be severly impacted...in my opinion, swap is bad - but an evil necessity....
[22:32] <properz> so i dont need swap areA?
[22:33] <properz> area*
[22:33] <hosified> you don't need it...but if you get a program that is out of control and has a memory leak, your system may crash or become unresponsive....512 or 1024 would be safe.
[22:33] <hosified> no more then that, it's a waste of space.
[22:33] <properz> ok
[22:33] <properz> you will be here more half hour ?
[22:34] <hosified> swap is for swapping information from memory to disk to free memory for other programs...meaning you would have to use all your memory up somehow before swap starts getting utilized...
[22:34] <hosified> maybe...
[22:34] <properz> ba bye
[22:35] <hosified> do we get paid for this??? lol
[22:38] <hackfrost> bye all
[22:38] <equaeghe> isn't swap also used to store images when suspending to disk?
[22:39] <hosified> equaeghe:  I didn't think that was written to swap...but it might be....I though that was stored in a hibernation file...I know in windows it's not part of the page file (ie swap).
[22:39] <hosified> but you could very well be right....
[22:40] <BluesKaj> swap file used to be normally 1.5 times ram , maybe it's different now
[22:40] <hosified> Swap space is the area on a hard disk which temporarily holds memory pages that are inactive. Swap space is used when physical memory, or RAM, is full. If the system happens to need more memory resources or space and the physical memory is currently full, inactive pages are then moved to the swap space. Note that the access time for swap is slower therefore do not consider it to be a complete replacement for the
[22:40] <hosified>  physical memory. Swap space can be a dedicated swap partition (recommended), a swap file, or a combination of swap partitions and swap files.
[22:40] <hosified> that's from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[22:41] <hosified> AND!!!
[22:41] <hosified> Hibernation (suspend-to-disk) The hibernation feature (suspend-to-disk) writes out the contents of RAM to the swap partition before turning off the machine. Therefore, your swap partition should be at least as big as your RAM size. The hibernation implementation currently used in Ubuntu, swsusp, needs a swap or suspend partition. It cannot use a swap file on an active file system.
[22:41] <jazzy_d> Heya everyone
[22:41] <hosified> congrats equaeghe, you got that one right.  All the purposes of swap are listed on that link above...
[22:41] <jazzy_d> Im on 9.10 and I have a sound problem when Im playing 24bit 96khz flacs in Amarok
[22:42] <jazzy_d> it produces noise
[22:42] <equaeghe> hosified: yeah, it bit me before, I had 1GB swap and 2GB ram...
[22:42] <jazzy_d> vlc plays them but seems resampled
[22:42] <BluesKaj> amarok plays flac ?
[22:42] <jazzy_d> to 44.1
[22:42] <jazzy_d> yep
[22:43] <BluesKaj> 96khz is rather audiophilic for a pc :)
[22:43] <hosified> nice....properz is going to be pissed when he finds that out...:)
[22:43] <hosified> "welcome to linux"...:D
[22:44] <hosified> my bad...
[22:45] <jazzy_d> so any fix for my case?
[22:45] <BluesKaj> hosified, I told prosperz to make sure he had the right driver installed , but just ignored advice and repeated his problem...he's not a reader , too busy asking for help
[22:46] <hosified> I don't feel so bad then....
[22:46] <hosified> ;)
[22:46] <jazzy_d> Im using audigy se by the way
[22:46] <hosified> half the battle is learning how to google....
[22:46] <hosified> :S
[22:46] <hosified> :/
[22:47] <hosified> maybe he should start with that...
[22:47] <jazzy_d> Im googleing but no result
[22:47] <hosified> oh, sorry jazzy_d, I was refferring to another person/problem....
[22:48] <jazzy_d> ok
[22:48] <BluesKaj> jazzy_d, check the internet for a more audiophile friendly app then amarok, there is one , but I can't recall it's name
[22:48] <hosified> I dunno if exaile supported flac or not....I find it to be a decent audio player...but it was more for gnome then kde.
[22:49] <jazzy_d> I have errors with audacious 2.1
[22:49] <jazzy_d> its oss
[22:49] <jazzy_d> Im on alsa
[22:49] <hosified> hmmm....jazzy_d: this may not be the best advise but....have you installed the ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[22:49] <jazzy_d> yep
[22:49] <jazzy_d> nothing happend
[22:49] <hosified> hmmm, ok...
[22:50] <jazzy_d> the guys at #linux on efnet told me that, then they told me to configure alsa for 24/96
[22:50] <jazzy_d> because on default its 16/44.1
[22:50] <jazzy_d> but I cant find on google how to do that
[22:50] <hosified> jazzy_d:  going to have to pass on that question, i'm still tinkering with the audio on my installation.  However, I thought that the default sound system in kubuntu was pulseaudio.  Anyone verify that?
[22:52] <hosified> jazzy_d...I also remember in ubuntu that there was an alsa mixer program and config program that I installed that allowed me to configure those options...
[22:52] <BluesKaj> jazzy_d, Aqualung audio player
[22:52] <hosified> lemme see if they are availble for kubuntu in the package manager.
[22:52] <ericG> I just switched to Konversation as my IRC client instead of Quassel. I like the layout better, but I can't find where to hide joins, parts, nick changes, etc. Can anyone point me in the correct direction?
[22:53] <jazzy_d> the only one Im seeing is kmix
[22:53] <Shura> Hi, how can I import a personal certificate in Konqueror ?
[22:53] <jazzy_d> perhaprs alsamixer is terminal thing
[22:55] <BluesKaj> ericG, on konverstion, click the sttings tab/configure /
[22:55] <kubuntuser> jazzy_d: alsamixer is a terminal thing
[22:55] <jazzy_d> ok
[22:56] <BluesKaj> ericG, configure konversation/chat window
[22:56] <todd_> ericg under behavior/chat window/2nd box is hide joins,parts
[22:57] <jazzy_d> Im running alsamixer now but it only shows how to adjust volume
[22:58] <hosified> sudo apt-get install padevchooser
[22:58] <hosified> that might do the trick jazzy_d
[22:58] <ericG> thanks BluesKaj todd_ found it :)
[22:58] <jazzy_d> I had read that amarok plays them fine btw, but I dunno whats the deal
[22:58] <jazzy_d> ok hosfield
[22:59] <hosified> hold on, that installs a lot of gnome crap...
[22:59] <hosified> lets see if we can find a better way to modify the pulse audio config then that....
[23:00] <BluesKaj> VLC is still my fav audioplayer , it has a lot of configurable options
[23:00] <jazzy_d> vlc downsamples them to 44.1
[23:03] <jazzy_d> hosified I already runned it
[23:03] <hosified> ok....I don't think it will cause you any problems.  I'm just going through my installation and I don't see pulseaudio as being installed.  Maybe that's the answer to your problem, install pulse audio.
[23:04] <jazzy_d> and with sudo apt-get install padevchooser Im installing it?
[23:04] <BluesKaj> hosified, pa doesn't run well with pci audio cards, it just creates an uneeded layer
[23:05] <hosified> yeah, seems like some others are having the same issue with audigy cards.  Read this..
[23:05] <hosified> http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1306142
[23:05] <hosified> sorry, no answers yet jazzy_d
[23:06] <jazzy_d> ok
[23:06] <hosified> i'ver got some flac files here, let me see if I can get them to work...
[23:06] <brendan-> anyone know if its possible to configure the windows start button for the KDE menu?
[23:06] <brendan-> or gnome for that
[23:07] <BluesKaj> i have a cmedia pci card , and pa is choppy and distorted on it , so I purged it , now my sound is as good as my pc soundcard ca muster
[23:08] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[23:08] <brendan-> what i wanna do is map the windows button on my laptop keyboard to display the menu
[23:08] <BluesKaj> brendan-, are you trying to hide kubuntu ?
[23:08] <brendan-> no
[23:08] <brendan-> i'm trying to display the menu when i press the windows key on the keyboard
[23:08] <jazzy_d> hosified, the cards listed are audigy 2 z something
[23:08] <jazzy_d> and I have audigy se
[23:09] <jazzy_d> or that doesn't makes chage?
[23:09] <BluesKaj> brendan-, check the keyboard shortcuts in system settings
[23:09] <brendan-> k
[23:11] <hosified> dunno, still looking...
[23:11] <jazzy_d> someone posted that the fix is by adding him in audio group
[23:11] <nomopofomo> how do i select a single file instead of opening it?
[23:12] <bbeck> nomopofomo: when hovering a plus sign should appear, press that.
[23:13] <nomopofomo> bbeck: does that include the folder view widget?
[23:13] <bbeck> nomopofomo: I don't think so, you may just have to rubberband the file.
[23:14] <nomopofomo> bbeck: fyi ctrl seems to work :P
[23:17] <jazzy_d> hosified, downloading done
[23:17] <jazzy_d> *and installing
[23:19] <amik> is there a way to upgrade to karmic straight from an iso (alternate, I assume)?
[23:20] <nomopofomo> hey, i'm trying to figure out what file is stopping amarok's collection scanner.. i'm running amarok --debug but it's not telling me anything useful  like which file it's processing... anybody have any useful info?
[23:22] <jazzy_d> hosified ?
[23:22] <hosified> yeah, i'm hear man...working on the same stuff...my audio is all fooked as well...
[23:24] <jazzy_d> ok
[23:24] <hosified> I think i'm going to install pulse audio and see how that works...I just don't seem to be able to get this to work based on the default kubuntu installation...
[23:24] <jazzy_d> ok
[23:24] <kexman> i have broadcom wired / wireless network adapters
[23:25] <jazzy_d> tell me the result
[23:25] <kexman> none of them show up after upgrade to 9.10
[23:25] <BluesKaj> amik, latest version should if you run it from the commandline, sudo do-release-update, but make sure you just use the cdrom as the repos, comment all other debs in sources.list
[23:25] <kexman> what should i do ?
[23:25] <kexman> update kernel ?
[23:25] <kexman> do i need to load any driver ?
[23:26] <jazzy_d> hosified I have to reboot the pc, coming after 5 mins
[23:27] <amik> thanks BluesKaj, is do-release-update the same as update-manager?
[23:27] <BluesKaj> yes, it's a server command
[23:27] <roby> ciao :-)
[23:28] <kexman> coool ive been trying to get some solution from web nothing like this .... cant find no solution here neither
[23:28] <amik> BluesKaj: by server command u mean command line?
[23:28] <roby> hi does anybody know how to add icons in the main menu of new kubuntu netbook?
[23:29] <amik> roby: u can ask in #kubuntu-netbook
[23:29] <BluesKaj> amik, the devs use that command on the repos servers
[23:29] <roby> oh I should know ;-)
[23:29] <roby> thanks I'll try!
[23:30] <kexman> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8233103 not even turning off acpi didnt helped ....
[23:30] <roby> bye!
[23:30] <sobi> hi, today has released kde 4.3.3, but not still in repo, anybody knows, when it will be install-able ? using kubuntu 9.10
[23:31] <xtyper> how i upgrade my kde ?
[23:31] <sobi> have the same questions :)
[23:33] <roby> hey guys another more general question....
[23:33] <sobi> how to upgrade my kubuntu 9.10 to actual kde 4.3.3
[23:33] <jazzy_d> hosified any result?
[23:34] <roby> can you give some hints for an application like cheese in kubuntu?
[23:34] <dparker> eek - what's happened to kommander?  is it supported in 9.10?
[23:36] <BluesKaj> !kde
[23:36] <KingKaiser> hey
[23:38] <Deihmos> i can't get firefox to look as good as ie 8 in windows 7. in windows everything looks clear and crisp but with ubuntu it looks old and washed out
[23:38] <Deihmos> is there something i need to do
[23:39] <Deihmos> i think maybe in windows they use clear type
[23:40] <BluesKaj> Deihmos, make sure you are using the same resolution as windows and dpi
[23:40] <Deihmos> usin gsame resolution
[23:41] <kaddi> hi, I can't change the brightness on my laptop screen, this has been so since I upgraded to karmic. Today I noticed the following line in dmesg:   12.046297] acer-wmi: Brightness must be controlled by generic video driver   And thought it might point to the problem.... Anyone know anything about regaining brightness settings?
[23:41] <kexman> sudo modprobe -r b44 ssb ndiswrapper
[23:41] <kexman> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[23:41] <kexman> sudo modprobe b44
[23:41] <kexman> fix to broadcom net problem in 9.10
[23:44] <xtyper> when i restart my computer in kubuntu my screen black and didnt restart , and i need to press in button to restart my computer
[23:50] <xtyper> agter upgrade kde the language stay?
[23:51] <jazzy_d> hosified ?
[23:51] <jazzy_d> hosified_ ?
[23:51] <hosified_> yep...
[23:52] <jazzy_d> an result?
[23:52] <jazzy_d> *any
[23:52] <hosified_> i've installed pulse audio, I can only get 2 channel audio...:S
[23:52] <hosified_> so no further ahead as of yet....
[23:52] <hosified_> haven't even tried the flac files
[23:52] <jazzy_d> ok
[23:52] <carmelita> How can I add spell ckeck to kontact(kmail) under kubuntu 9.10 what do I need to install? I need it for spanish
[23:52] <jazzy_d> I need 2ch
[23:52] <carmelita> Please, can someone help me?
[23:53] <jazzy_d> but how to configure it for 24/96
[23:53] <jazzy_d> cuz Im still getting noise
[23:53] <hosified_> if I knew, i'd tell you....still digging...
[23:55] <The_Journey> how can I turn off 3d acceleration? It's causing my system to freeze
[23:56] <busbaby> anyone on kubuntu 9.04 still?
[23:57] <genii-around> busbaby: Quite a few, including myself
[23:57] <amik> me too
[23:57] <kexman> shame on kubuntu i say :)
[23:57] <genii-around> Shame on kexman, I say! ;)
[23:57] <kexman> i always tought about this distro as a plug in and play distro :D
[23:58] <busbaby> do you guys have the update notifier telling you about 9.10, even though you told it "don't ask again"
[23:58] <amik> busbaby: I have the icon, but don't remember any 'dont ask again' being asked
[23:59] <busbaby> so i guess you cant get rid of it either then eh
[23:59] <kexman> busbaby: i didnt say dont ask again still was getting it :)
[23:59] <busbaby> ?
[23:59] <kexman> upgraded
[23:59] <kexman> now no net for me :) hahah
[23:59] <kexman> i managed to update it with update-manager