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RohirrimCan anyone submit a wallpaper? I want to contribute.08:33
thorwilRohirrim: well, you can join http://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntu-artwork08:38
Rohirrimokay, Thanks.08:38
thorwilRohirrim: for the release that just happened, about 20 wallpapers have been selected from that pool. note that the default wallpaper comes from Canonical. it will very likely be the same process for next release08:40
Rohirrimokay.08:40
thorwilRohirrim: also have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/Backgrounds08:42
RohirrimWas doing that now.08:42
thorwilkwwii: flickr group still has "In our next release, the Karmic Koala (Ubuntu 9.10)" ;)08:49
mac_vkwwii: what is the name of the package you'll be adding ? [the one that contains the shortlisted wallpapers?]09:03
mac_vthose not in the default install*09:04
mac_vthorwil: are we going to use the same method[flicker wallpapers] for 10.04 too?09:16
thorwilmac_v: i wrote the section about wallpapers on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Lucid and so far no one objected ;)09:18
* thorwil imagined flickering wallpapers for a moment09:19
mac_v;)09:19
kwwiithorwil: yeah, need to change that09:59
kwwiithorwil: just packaged the extra wallpapers last night ;)09:59
kwwiidesktop-backgrounds-extra10:00
kwwiimac_v: ^10:00
kwwiilp:~desktop-backgrounds-extra10:00
kwwiineed to file a sponsoring bug to get that in universe10:01
thorwilbloody %&$&! with karmic's inkscape, prevent-gradient-sharing is always on, ignoring the checkbox10:06
kwwiito be honest, karmic is probably one of the worst linux distros I have used in years10:07
kwwiiit has messed up both of my systems10:07
zniavreho?10:07
kwwiido *not* upgrade, it will only break things10:07
kwwiiand a clean install still has many more X problems than jaunty10:08
zniavrei was lucky guy10:08
kwwiihttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/karmic_koala_frustration/10:08
thorwilso this issue driving me nuts ia already reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/43792610:09
ubottuUbuntu bug 437926 in inkscape "Usetting "Prevent sharing of gradient definitions" option does nothing" [Undecided,New]10:09
mac_vkwwii: hmm , so lucid is not going to use flickr?10:10
kwwiimac_v: ?10:11
kwwiimac_v: yes, hopefully it will...I just haven't started it yet10:11
mac_vkwwii> thorwil: yeah, need to change that ---> i thought this meant 'no' :)10:11
kwwiithorwil: not sure I understand where you see that10:11
mac_vkwwii: ah , ok , so what happens to the wallpapers from 9.10? when user upgrades to 10.04?10:12
mac_vsuggestion move the wallpapers for 10.04 to -> ~desktop-backgrounds-9.1010:13
thorwilwhat?10:13
thorwilmac_v: what meant no10:13
thorwilkwwii: where do i see what?10:13
kwwiithorwil: it seems to work fine here10:13
kwwiimac_v: not sure about that yet10:14
mac_vthorwil: i thought when kwwii said "kwwii> thorwil: yeah, need to change that" , that it meant the wiki needs to be changed regarding the flikcr10:14
kwwiimac_v: I need to update the flickr page to represent the fact that we are working on lucid now10:14
mac_vah  , you meant that change :) nice got it ;)10:15
thorwilkwwii: create rectangle, use gradient fill. copy rectangle. here i always get a new gradient with a number appended10:15
kwwiithorwil: ahhh, right...now I get it10:16
kwwiithat is pretty funky10:17
kwwiiI usually build inkscape from source as well10:17
kwwiibut I really wish the inkscape nightly ppa was back online10:17
thorwili already build all my audio stuff from source. and synfig. if i add more, i could switch back to gentoo ;)10:17
zniavrehaha10:18
thorwilat least none of those 9.10 X issues hit me10:18
darkmatterdoes gentoo still suck? xD10:19
thorwilactually it would be http://www.funtoo.org/. Daniel Robbins is back. portage tree in git, how's that for geekiness? ;)10:20
darkmatterI was thinking more along the lines of 'lawl wut?'10:22
darkmatterthe 'lawl wut' being in reference to funtoo/gentoo/omgimdelusionaltoo being geeky :P10:23
* thorwil smuggles a tribble into darkmatter's basement10:26
darkmattertribble are tasty. just be sure to save them before roasting. I forgot to one.... phew... what a stench10:27
darkmatteronce*10:27
thorwilhmm, what do i have to do to get a fill in sliders like with clearlooks, but starting from the Human theme?11:30
thorwilactually, current Human has it, but my customized version doesn't11:59
kwwiithere is a scrollbar colorize option at the top12:00
kwwiiwhich will use the selection color12:01
kwwiiand down below there is another part to make it grey like it currently is in karmic12:01
thorwilkwwii: does that affect both scrollbars and scales?12:12
thorwilkwwii: i want that for scale, not scrollbars. already replaced scrollbars with a pixmap solution12:13
thorwilsheesh, used meld and saw no differences that should have an effect here. gtkrc stinks12:16
mac_vthorwil: scale and scrollbars are done separately , if you used pixmap , its not possible to colorize it , unless the pixmap for the prelight is done brighter12:16
thorwilmac_v: i don't see any difference regarding scale in my gtkrc and the Human gtkrc, yet Human has a brown fill and mine doesn't12:17
kwwiiscale?12:17
mac_vthorwil: could you pastbin the gtkrc :)12:17
mac_vthorwil: human scale uses the murrine engine , hence the brown fill12:18
thorwilmac_v: so does mine12:19
mac_vthorwil: then you might have changed the "default" and defines mentioned there12:20
thorwilah, sorry for the noise, i just fixed it12:20
mac_v;)12:20
thorwil"GtkScale       ::trough-side-details  = 1" was missing12:20
thorwili mean, that name clearly says it's about that fill to one side of the scale ;)12:21
mac_vthorwil: cooking up a new theme? light or dark one?12:22
thorwillight12:23
mac_v:)12:23
* mac_v likes darker themes and almost completed one ;)12:24
mac_vs/completed/completing12:24
thorwilhttp://imagebin.org/7028312:26
kwwiithorwil: I think that one thing that is going to come up at UDS is getting the community more invovled in the wallpapers (new team, old ideas :p)12:27
thorwilkwwii: i think if you want to get past the status quo, you need significant additional effort12:30
kwwiithorwil: yeah, I get the feeling we are going to have to explain the problems (again)12:31
thorwilkwwii: maybe it will become clearer if explained with a hard german accent ^^12:32
kwwiilol :p12:32
* kwwii wanders off to get lunch12:56
darkmatterthorwil: a man after my own heart (scrollbars that attempt to blend with the window contents) :)13:14
darkmatterlooks pretty good13:16
thorwilty13:33
thorwilthis is some brutal hardcore: http://www.blendernation.com/bearubs-video/13:33
mac_vanyone happen to know the class of the evolution mail list?13:48
mac_v!test14:13
ubottuyes, I'm alive.14:13
* kwwii heads out to the doctor, be back in about an hour15:56
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zniavrehttp://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity     try to find the "next page" button19:38
zniavrehttp://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity?page=2   > cause it exists ...   :o)19:39
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