[00:07] <mrand> hipitihop: I mean does it continue to happen for you (is it reproducible in some form), or was it just something you noticed that happened in the past?
[00:07] <mrand> superm1: do we have any hope or method of (even manually) generating a useful backtrace?  Even a pure debug package?
[00:11] <hipitihop> mrand, will experiment, I believe it can be reproduced ... afaik I was just testing various keys on the keyboard while in the gallery and within slideshow, since my remote doesn't work yet so not sure of all available options
[00:32] <hipitihop> should mythfrontend.log be readable in normal text editor ?
[00:53] <hads> Yes
[00:54] <hipitihop> hads, mine fails... should I delete and it will regenerate, maybe it is a left over from early beta install
[00:56] <hipitihop> mrand, I have tried a few things and can't get that error again so I'll keep an eye on it to try and get a feel for when and how often it occurs
[00:56] <hads> You can delete it, the frontend will create it when it starts.
[01:38] <mersault> !help jamu
[01:38] <Zinn> !help jamu For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[01:40] <mersault> Anyone here using jamu to make magic with their video metadata?
[01:47]  * hads is
[01:49] <mersault> hads, any tips to save me time while I explore what all I need to do to get this thing to grab meta data for me?
[01:50] <hads> Check out /etc/cron.daily/mythvideo
[01:50] <mersault> I have separate backend and frontend, and I use storage groups to deliver all my media
[01:50] <hads> That will show you what options it's using to run it automatically.
[01:50] <mersault> I assume jamu is storage group aware and all that jazz
[01:51] <hads> Run it like that plus an i or I or something to interactively select the movie if it can't figure it out.
[01:51] <hads> There's a good wiki page on it and the --help it useful
[01:51] <mersault> the wiki says something about a config file
[01:53] <mersault> did you bother with that, or is there one with sensible defaults already included in mythbuntu?
[01:55] <mersault> hmmm, gonna kick over the router. bbiab
[02:35] <mersault> hmmm... I have separate backends and frontends, what is required for getting jamu to run properly on the backend?
[03:07] <superm1> mersault, you need mythvideo installed on the backend
[03:07] <superm1> it can only run on a machine containing a backend
[03:08] <OpenMedia> superm1: Nice work on the 9.10 release. Working pretty well here in NZ
[03:08] <superm1> cool, good :)
[03:09] <OpenMedia> Just a couple of interesting bugs
[03:09] <OpenMedia> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/469999 affects any gui tuning for overscan
[03:10] <OpenMedia> http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7449 affects tuning of H.264 based SD channels and AAC based radio channels.
[03:10] <hads> I'm seeing some corruption in playing back x264 mkv files but that's about the only complaint at the moment.
[03:11] <OpenMedia> hads: Is that around ffwd/rewind or on general playback?
[03:11] <hads> Nothing to do with mythbuntu of course.
[03:11] <hads> General playback
[03:11] <OpenMedia> Internal Player?
[03:11] <hads> Yeah, "GetNextFreeFrame() served a busy frame 3. Dropping." issue
[03:12] <hads> And audio sync after skipping.
[03:12] <hads> Perhaps will be fixed in 0.23 :)
[03:13] <OpenMedia> Do you have "skiploopfilter" enabled?
[03:15] <hads> What settings page is that in?
[03:15] <hads> I don't believe so.
[03:18] <OpenMedia> TV Settings -> Playback -> next -> next
[03:18] <OpenMedia> Then edit your profile
[03:18] <mersault> superm1: thanks.
[03:18] <OpenMedia> Ah bugger.
[03:19] <OpenMedia> It was there in the older 0.21 builds. Has it been removed in 0.22...
[03:19] <OpenMedia> Makes a huge difference for h264
[03:19] <hads> Hmm wonder what happened to it.
[03:19] <hads> This particular issue only appeared in 0.22 I think, they used to play in 0.21
[03:21] <OpenMedia> Yeah and with no trac search on the mythtv repository at the moment it is a bit of a pain to look up.
[03:21] <hads> Sure is :(
[03:22] <OpenMedia> Do you have the settings set to 2 CPUs. It still helps spread the load of the filters etc.
[03:24] <hads> Yeah
[03:25] <hads> I have a 9800GT sitting here to put in to test out VDPAU on this frontend.
[03:25] <hads> I might put that in shortly actually.
[03:26] <OpenMedia> I fancy trying a GT210 or GT220 card, just need to find one that is very quiet
[03:27] <hads> This card is fanless but that means it takes up about a cubic foot :)
[03:32] <tgm4883> IIRC, rhpot1991 has a fanless VDPAU card
[03:32] <tgm4883> it's quiet large
[03:32] <rhpot1991> ya I do
[03:32] <rhpot1991> a 9600
[03:33] <superm1> i have a fanless one too
[03:33] <OpenMedia> hads: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4653
[03:33] <superm1> its really tall unfortunately
[03:34] <superm1> i had to jump cases
[03:34] <OpenMedia> superm1: Any chance of a backport of http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4653 to Mythbuntu?
[03:34] <superm1> we're trying to avoid getting in the habit of backporting patches until they're actually upstream
[03:34] <superm1> turns into a maintenance problem
[03:35] <OpenMedia> superm1: I fully understand ;)
[03:35] <OpenMedia> hads: Some interesting comments in that ticket about parallel slice decoding as well.
[03:41] <OpenMedia> Anyone here trying a GT210 or GT220 under Mythbuntu 9.10?
[03:42]  * hads is distracted by a broken karmic upgrade on a server
[03:43] <OpenMedia> superm1: Got a bug with your remote control mapping generator.
[03:43] <superm1> with something common?
[03:43] <OpenMedia> For MCE remotes you map RecTV to "R" when it should be Record to "R"
[03:44] <OpenMedia> It affects most of the mceusb remotes
[03:44] <superm1> oh fun, that probably happened when the keymap got inverted to fix esc and stop
[03:44] <superm1> can you file a bug at launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythbuntu-lirc-generator to track?
[03:44] <OpenMedia> Sure.. Will do.
[03:44] <superm1> you're the first one who mentioned that. shows how often people use the record button :)
[03:45] <OpenMedia> Its quite handy in the program guide to quickly mark something to be recorded.
[03:45] <OpenMedia> Does anyone else here ever use the acclerator hot keys in the EPG?
[03:46] <OpenMedia> Some details here - http://support.openmedia.co.nz/mypvr/tips-and-tricks/epg-hot-keys/
[03:46] <OpenMedia> It appears the option Disable “Allow channel jumping in guide” doesn't affect the behaviour in the EPG anymore.
[03:54] <OpenMedia> Hmm I'll try asking in the mythtv-users channel
[03:55] <hads> Yay, fixed server.
[05:19] <hads> Okay, video card installed. I only had to remove the front drive caddy in the full ATX case.
[05:27] <hads> Haha, excellent blatently obvious error message. "Your GeForce 9800 GT graphics card does not have the necessary external power cables attached. Please shut down your computer, open ts case, and attach the appropriate power connectors."
[06:08] <hads> Neat, 4% CPU playing back 1080 h264
[06:39] <hipitihop> hads, is that using VDPAU
[06:42] <hipitihop> anyone know of the picture gallery slideshow has an option to stretch/scale images to full display size ?
[06:59] <hipitihop> anyone know if an iphone can playback mythtv recordings without downloading them i.e. across http stream ?
[07:00]  * hipitihop wonders if he has already asked this some time back
[07:28] <hads> hipitihop: Yes, VDPAU
[08:16] <Jester86> hello, i have a question/problem.. my box was recording a show when it lost power and now it no longer records saying that it cannot find an active card for the recording.. any clues?
[09:08] <nurettin> hello
[09:08] <nurettin> i  have got problem
[09:08] <nurettin> i have got
[09:08] <nurettin> green screen.
[09:08] <Jester05> whats your problem my son
[09:09] <Jester05> hmm green screen
[09:09] <nurettin> but old time running very good.
[09:09] <Jester05> did your box lose power while it was recording?
[09:09] <nurettin> how can i change ntsc to pal
[09:09] <Jester05> oh that goes back to mythtv-setup
[09:09] <Jester05> when you add your cards it'll be an option in there
[09:09] <nurettin> v4lctl say to me default ntsc
[09:10] <nurettin> and when open xawtv
[09:10] <nurettin> default open ntsc
[09:10] <nurettin> old time not problem very good pal-bg
[09:11] <nurettin> but now i am changing ntsc to pal from xaw tv menu
[09:11] <nurettin> i want dafault my tv card pal-bg
[09:13] <Jester05> man
[09:13] <Jester05> my system lost power while it was recording and now its no longer working
[09:14] <Jester05> says it cant find an active card..
[09:14] <Jester05> i have 2 pvr150s in that biotch
[09:40] <Elwell> Hi, is anyone updating the installation guide to 9.10?
[09:40] <Elwell> if not, where's the source?
[09:52] <nurettin> hello
[09:52] <nurettin> where are you ?
[10:06] <nurettin> hu huuuu
[10:06] <nurettin> nerdesiniz lan.
[10:28] <Jester86> anyone else having trouble with program guide killing their mythtv?
[10:29] <hads> Jester86: What version and theme?
[11:09] <Jester86> hads, brilliant idea.. its all working perfect now :) thanks!
[11:24] <hads> heh, okay. I'm assuming 0.22 and metallurgy then.
[14:10] <cba123> How can I enlarge the windows that pop-up for metadata?  For instance, I have "The Day The Earth Stood Still" the original 1950's version, when I hit W to get the metadata for it, it showed me two identical names, and I chose the 2008 version by mistake.
[14:11] <cba123> two identical names because the window cut off the rest*
[14:25] <mrand> cba123: what theme are you using?
[14:26] <cba123> mrand, Graphite Widescreen
[14:27] <mrand> cba123, I'm not aware of any way to alter the window sizes... as far as I know, they are fixed.  But your situation makes for a good example for the need of at least larger display fields, or scrolling ones, or something to that effect.
[14:28] <cba123> Or a way for the script that fetches the metadata to handle years in the filename.  I originally had it as "The Day The Earth Stood Still 1951" and it didn't detect it, but it did without the 1951
[14:35] <Cyber-Dogg> howdy
[14:35] <Cyber-Dogg> so I'm using VDPAU
[14:35] <Cyber-Dogg> and some of you may recall my asking for help before
[14:36] <Cyber-Dogg> and it just started working all of a sudden
[14:36] <Cyber-Dogg> well since then it's been flaky... sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't
[14:36] <Cyber-Dogg> and I've monitored error log when it doesn't work
[14:37] <Cyber-Dogg> and I see this in mythfrontend.log
[14:37] <superm1> Cyber-Dogg, i just filed a bug on svn.mythtv.org yesterday for similar behaviors
[14:37] <Cyber-Dogg> error at util-vdpau.cpp:871 (#23, The system does not have enough resources to complete the requested operation at this time.)
[14:37] <Cyber-Dogg> are you getting that too?
[14:37] <superm1> Yup, exact same thing
[14:38] <superm1> Ticket URL: <http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7493#comment:2>
[14:38] <Cyber-Dogg> oh... alright then... :-)
[14:38] <superm1> i think trac is down so that url might not work, but go subscribe to that or scream MEEEEEETOOOO
[14:38] <Cyber-Dogg> good to know I'm not retarded :-)... well at least not in this instant
[14:38] <superm1> well mine was at line 612, but same error message
[14:39] <Cyber-Dogg> yeah... it claims different line numbers depending on subtle changes I've made to the setup
[14:39] <Cyber-Dogg> which deinterlacer I use for example
[14:39] <Cyber-Dogg> superm1: you have any experience with daisy chaining firewire STBs?
[14:40] <superm1> interesting, i've not gotten that far with it
[14:40] <superm1> it fails only about 30% of the time for me
[14:40] <superm1> its gotta be something like they're forgetting to free some resources from a previous run?
[14:40] <superm1> nope not at all
[14:40] <mrand> cba123 I don't know if writing a ticket would help or not.  I suppose we could try, and worst case upstream rejects it.  Can you open a ticket?
[14:40] <Cyber-Dogg> well and I was just going to say... it seems to happen most often on subsequent runs...
[14:40] <Cyber-Dogg> never has happened on a first open
[14:41] <superm1> exactly, same for me
[14:41] <Cyber-Dogg> alright... we've solved it :-)
[14:41] <superm1> how much ram in your graphics card?
[14:41] <superm1> and are you driving 1080p too?
[14:42] <Cyber-Dogg> 1080i (just HD cable)
[14:42] <Cyber-Dogg> uh... not sure how much ram on the card... it's an on board
[14:42] <Cyber-Dogg> nvidia 8200
[14:43] <superm1> ah it looks like trac just unfroze for me
[14:43] <cba123> mrand, Not sure where to do so, if you could point in the right direction, I'd be happy to ticket it.  Also, it seems like the script isn't fetching covers for some things, and it also isn't sorting them in order of release, as in Movie -> Sequel, if the Sequel is alphabetically first, I can't find the option.
[14:43] <superm1> you can probably mention it there now
[14:43] <Cyber-Dogg> I've got either 2 or 4 gig in the box
[14:44] <Cyber-Dogg> I metooed
[14:45] <Cyber-Dogg> http://au.shuttle.com/product_detail.jsp?PI=939 that's the barebones I used
[14:48] <Cyber-Dogg> so... I'm guessing my memory is shared
[14:48] <mrand> cba123, both of these are regarding mythvideo?
[14:48] <mrand> cba123, the script problem would be a potential second ticket.
[14:49] <Cyber-Dogg> only 128 to video card
[14:50] <mrand> cba123, for each ticket, you can just type  "ubuntu-bug mythtv" into a shell on that machine and it will create  and add way more version and log info to the report than we need for this kind of little problem.  If you can't use that command for some reason, then you can go here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+filebug
[14:53] <cba123> mrand, Yeah, the script thing is annoying, it showed one title after a few minutes, but other more popular ones aren't showing up, one doesn't even have the name in the browser.
[14:55] <Cyber-Dogg> superm1: hmm... I increased my memory share... and things seem better :-)
[14:56] <superm1> Cyber-Dogg, well remember it fails sporadically
[14:56] <superm1> so dont hold your breath :)
[14:56] <Cyber-Dogg> right... but mine fails like 50% of the time I try to play something
[14:57] <Cyber-Dogg> and I've started a show 5 times now with success... so that's better :-)
[14:58] <Cyber-Dogg> but we'll see how it goes...
[14:58] <Cyber-Dogg> if it is a resource lock issue... then it will occur again... it will just take longer :-)
[15:00] <Cyber-Dogg> any way to check my vram usage?
[15:06] <superm1> not that i know of
[15:57] <Elwell> stupid Q (not looked at the code) -- its not a shared memory cleanup is it? (ipcs)
[16:05] <flexy> I installed new mythbuntu just now. I have a problem, FE log says ~/.mythtv/channels is not writable.
[16:06] <flexy> Failed to save to /home/flexy/.mythtv/channels/logosomething.png
[16:06] <flexy> that dir has rights to write.
[16:07] <flexy> I have logged out also
[16:09] <flexy> I even touched the directory/test with user mythtv
[16:09] <flexy> it works, but FE fails to save the channel logos
[16:09] <flexy> I'm baffled. Any hints?
[16:18] <tgm4883> flexy, yea, don't put the recording dir in the home dir
[16:19] <flexy> recording dir is at /mythtv
[16:19] <flexy> other media is at /media
[16:19] <flexy> just the channel logoes seem to want to go to that dir
[16:19] <tgm4883> !logs | flexy
[16:19] <Zinn> flexy: MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[16:19] <tgm4883> please post the pastebin link it gives you
[16:20] <flexy> ok, a moment or two
[16:24] <flexy> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f6b969f53
[16:27] <tgm4883> flexy, what version of mythtv?
[16:28] <flexy> the one that comes with mythbuntu install cd 9.10
[16:28] <tgm4883> ok
[16:28] <tgm4883> hmm
[16:29] <tgm4883> I don't have access to my mythbox right now, so my support is limited
[16:29] <tgm4883> is there a storage group for channel icons in mythtv-setup?
[16:31] <flexy> I'm not sure, I think not. In any case, mythtv-setup checks the writability of the dirs, when exiting it. it did not complain anything
[16:31] <tgm4883> right, but if it is listed there as that dir, that could indicate some other issues
[16:32] <tgm4883> so it would be good to know
[16:32] <flexy> no, there was not a SG for channel logos
[16:32] <flexy> checked it
[16:32] <tgm4883> hmm
[16:36] <flexy> I even removed all other SGs, but screenshots and db backups. same result
[16:36] <tgm4883> flexy, what is the permissions of /home/flexy
[16:36] <flexy> 755
[16:38] <flexy> I changed it to 777, did not help
[16:40] <tgm4883> what about the permissions of /home/flexy/.mythtv
[16:40] <tgm4883> same?
[16:40] <mrand> Perhaps related?
[16:40] <mrand> Backend: /home/mythtv/.mythtv//channels
[16:40] <mrand> Frontend: /home/flexy/.mythtv/channels/
[16:41] <flexy> yes, 777 also that dir
[16:41] <flexy> hmmmm
[16:42] <flexy> I'll check that out
[16:42] <mrand> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/332736 seems to hint at the need to run mythtv-setup?
[16:44] <tgm4883> mrand, possibly
[16:44] <tgm4883> i'm a little confused as to why the frontend is trying to write channel icons
[16:46] <flexy> I have ran mythtv-setup.
[16:46] <flexy> All I can think of, is that my database is from old installation
[16:47] <tgm4883> hmm
[16:47] <tgm4883> flexy, same username and hostname
[16:47] <flexy> perhaps the channel logo dir is specified there with ~/.mythtv
[16:47] <mavric> i never could get myth to work, never detects my tv card which is linux supported
[16:47] <flexy> username is not same
[16:48] <tgm4883> flexy, I would bet that is the problem
[16:48] <flexy> as mythbuntu wanted to create a different user for backend and fronted
[16:48] <tgm4883> but it's just a guess at this poing
[16:48] <flexy> right
[16:48] <tgm4883> what do you mean?
[16:48] <flexy> do you remember where I can set that dir? mythtv-setup somewhere? FE setup?
[16:49] <tgm4883> i'm told it's not configurable
[16:49] <tgm4883> which probably means you need to search in the db
[16:49] <flexy> I meant that mythbuntu installation created mythtv user for BE and gave me the option to put my username, which comes to be the username for FE
[16:49] <tgm4883> which I don't have access to mine right now
[16:49] <flexy> crap
[16:49] <flexy> :)
[16:50] <MythbuntuGuest38> Hi I want to build a zotac ion system with mythbuntu to play  back flash. Can I do it? or is ion support not there yet?? No tv tuner. I'm new forgive my ignorance and Thank you very much.
[16:51] <flexy> tgm4883: hmmm. by not being configurable, is it not configurable in any GUI setup, or is it not configurable even in database?
[16:51] <flexy> path not hard coded in source?
[16:52] <tgm4883> flexy, I don't know, I just asked in #mythtv-users
[16:52] <flexy> oh
[16:52] <javatexan> I am still running 8.10 mythbuntu and I am playing around with the vncserver.  ps reveals that x11vnc is happily running, but I can't seem to find the config file for it :(  Is this the same project?  http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/
[16:52] <tgm4883> I have training in 8 minutes, so I won't be able to help for a couple hours after that
[16:52] <superm1> javatexan, /usr/share/mythbuntu/session.sh is how it gets launched
[16:53] <mavric> xbmc works on the ion platform well i read
[16:54] <javatexan> thanks superm1
[17:15] <gnome42> I've done a basic karmic install. Is there an easy way to convert it to a MythBuntu install by any chance?
[17:19] <mrand> gnome42: sure!  just install mythbuntu-control-centre
[17:20] <superm1> http://mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu
[17:20] <gnome42> mrand: thanks! I just found the "Add to Ubuntu" page.
[17:20] <superm1> (that does the same thing, but is pretty)
[17:20] <superm1> :)
[17:20] <gnome42> yep that one :)
[17:21] <gnome42> I should remove any existing myth pkgs before installing mythbuntu-control-centre?
[17:21] <superm1> it uses the same packages as in the archives
[17:21] <superm1> so it's okay
[17:22] <gnome42> ok, cool. Thanks again.
[17:25] <darthanubis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/460579/comments/6
[17:25] <darthanubis> How do I add export EXPERIMeENTALLY_ALLOW_PULSE_AUDIO=1 to .bashrc so that mythfrontend stars with this option enabled.
[17:25] <darthanubis> ?
[17:26] <darthanubis> Just added it to the end of the .bashrc does not have the effect as running mythfrontend export EXPERIMeENTALLY_ALLOW_PULSE_AUDIO=1 from cmd line
[17:26] <darthanubis> thx
[17:30] <superm1> it can go in /etc/mythtv/session-settings
[17:30] <superm1> but i think you have the case wrong?
[17:30] <superm1> is there supposed to be e lower case e in there?
[17:49] <flexy> dev from #mythtv-users suggested that wrapper scripts are at fault here. The problem is that channel logos are not written in /home/flexy/.mythtv/channels but the right are there (chmod 777 ~/.mythtv/channels
[17:49] <flexy> )
[17:50] <flexy> he suggested that wrapper script is changing the environment variables or such in a way that prevents writing to that dir
[17:50] <flexy> any ideas?
[17:52] <darthanubis> superm1, don't know how that small e got there but it is not that way in .bashrc
[18:23] <mrand> flexy: I don't follow.  What do you mean by "but the right are there"?  Did you determine what is at fault here?
[18:23] <flexy> rights
[18:23] <flexy> chmod 777
[18:24] <flexy> no, dont know why, but the I get from logs that writing is not allowed, but actually it is
[18:24] <mishehu> hmm... if I do an upgrade distro, should I be expecting a bunch of stuff to break?  :-)
[18:25] <mrand> I'm sorry, I still don't follow.  You said previously you'd tried 777.  There is no channel directory chmod in the frontend wrapper.
[18:25] <flexy> Failed to save to /home/flexy/.mythtv/channels/bbc_world.jpg
[18:25] <flexy> it says in the FE log
[18:26] <flexy> but that directory is modified with chmod -R 777
[18:26] <flexy> it really IS writable
[18:26] <flexy> but still, logs says that Failed to save...
[18:26] <flexy> and I have logged out/back in
[18:27] <flexy> this is really odd, I have been using linux 10 years, compiled myth my self several years, now trying with mythbuntu... and Im baffled. the rights are there to anyone to write. but still, it fails
[18:32] <flexy> if I provide (from a backup) a logo file with the right name in that location, FE will show that in the EPG.
[18:36] <flexy> mrand: you follow now?
[19:12]  * mishehu is updating now from 9.04 to 9.10 and praying that little if anything breaks...
[19:26] <MythbuntuGuest52> I am having trouble getting the tv channel info.
[19:27] <MythbuntuGuest52> I can scan and get a bunch of channel numbers but they all say unnamed.
[19:28] <MythbuntuGuest52> I am configured for schedules direct and my stb is directv standdard def.
[20:17] <darthanubis> MythbuntuGuest52, don't use the scan, you the fetch
[20:17] <darthanubis> you=use
[20:30] <MythbuntuGuest52> Thank you. The problem was that I hadnt added a linup to my schedules direct account. I did that. Then retrieved lineup, got my directv linup retrival, and just ran the fetch.
[20:32] <MythbuntuGuest52> Running the mythfilldatabase now and it seems to be working as where before it ran and gave 401 errors.
[20:34] <MythbuntuGuest52> While that is running... my next problem. I have a pvr-250 with remote and ir blaster and it is not working.
[20:35] <MythbuntuGuest52> Any ideas on how to get this going?
[20:37] <darthanubis> use mythbuntu-control-center to generate a ir profile
[20:37] <darthanubis> I have a pvr-150 works like a charm
[20:38] <darthanubis> I don't use or need the blaster however so can't comment on how that works. I hear it does not at all.
[20:41] <Spirits-Sight> what is my option to be able to connect composition device (three wire RYB) I want this for a laptop?
[20:42] <Spirits-Sight> ( RYB )
[20:44] <mersault> Is it possible to tell give define directories for jamu, so that it knows to avoid select directories, or that a given directory will contain only movies while another will contain only television shows?
[20:46] <darthanubis> Spirits-Sight, a 3 to one cable that comes with video cameras or radioshack
[20:46] <darthanubis> jamu?
[20:52] <MythbuntuGuest52> To be clear, the ir blaster is the cable that comes with the pvr-250 that has an input for the ir port in the card and two ends. One as a receiver and the other to pulse the ir to the stb ir eye?
[20:54] <MythbuntuGuest52> If that is true, I suspect it is, and you do not use it then how does your remote work? Where is the receiver for the ir from the remote? and how do you change channels? Wireless Keyboard?
[20:58] <Spirits-Sight> darthanubis: what would the 3 to 1 cable turn into?  this is for sound and video, also what do I want use on the laptop to be albe to have it be seen in MythBuntu I am in USA so now it appear alot of things are digital only  the device I am connecting is like a DVD player but its not such its a non-digital device
[20:59] <darthanubis> I have no idea what you are trying to do.
[21:00] <darthanubis> 1.do you have a mythbuntu system?
[21:00] <darthanubis> 2.is the mythbuntu backend your laptop?
[21:00] <darthanubis> 3.or are you trying to use your laptop as a frontend to a backend somewhere else?
[21:02] <Spirits-Sight> OK I need to be able to do two things, one beable to watch TV with CC on the laptop and also be able to have VIDEO PHONE for hte Deaf that is connected to a normal TV through composite cables
[21:03] <Spirits-Sight> The laptop will be both the backend and frontend I believe
[21:04] <Spirits-Sight> with extional 500gb USB harddrive
[21:04] <darthanubis> do you have a tv tuner card in the laptop?
[21:04] <Spirits-Sight> no
[21:04] <darthanubis> or connected to it?
[21:04] <Spirits-Sight> no
[21:04] <darthanubis> well what are you talking about?:-P
[21:04] <darthanubis> readup on what exactly mythtv is and is not
[21:04] <darthanubis> start there
[21:05] <Spirits-Sight> I am trying to guide the person in the right decition of what to buy so I can setup the system and be finished
[21:05] <darthanubis> then you'll have a better idea of what you are able to do and not do
[21:05] <MythbuntuGuest52> any info on the ir question?
[21:05] <darthanubis> I answered you MythbuntuGuest52
[21:05] <darthanubis> scroll up
[21:05] <Spirits-Sight> I know what mythtv is its a home media center, its the hardware not sure of the best option
[21:06] <darthanubis> Spirits-Sight, well then you will need to read the hardware list to see if you can get a compatible external tv tuner. Because trying to fix an internal inside a laptop will be just about impossible
[21:07] <darthanubis> as far as the ryb component cable, you may want to hook straight into a a/v reciever that will accept those cables
[21:07] <MythbuntuGuest52> I didnt see an answer to this: If that is true, I suspect it is, and you do not use it then how does your remote work? Where is the receiver for the ir from the remote? and how do you change channels? Wireless Keyboard?
 use mythbuntu-control-center to generate a ir profile
[21:08] <MythbuntuGuest52> ok
[21:09] <darthanubis> MythbuntuGuest52, yes I have a wireless keyboard and mosue (logitech) and the pvr150 came with it's own IR reciever and remote
[21:09] <darthanubis> mouse
[21:09] <Spirits-Sight> the laptop does not have internal TV Tuner,  I will buy hdhomerunner for that, how ever I don't know what kind of hardware would be good for connecting say Xbox to the tv as I was told that not able to be done
[21:09] <Spirits-Sight> xbox use the componet cable, I am only looking to connect on device that use these kind of cable
[21:09] <darthanubis> MythbuntuGuest52, the IR receiever is a gray cord plugged into the back of the card. I have it positioned near the front of my machine
[21:10] <MythbuntuGuest52> Is the two ended cable that comes with the pvr the receiver or a blaster?
[21:11] <MythbuntuGuest52> mine has one end that goes into the card and then splits off into two other ends. I assume one is for receiving and the other for relaying pulses to the stb?
[21:11] <darthanubis> Spirits-Sight, forgive me if I'm still not following. but I'd use the laptop and xbox as frontends only. And another machine as a backend. If i HAD to use the laptop as a backend/frontend, then I'd not try to connect the laptop to some monitor with ryb cables. Either hdmi or dvi. The sound you can run from the pc speaker port
[21:12] <darthanubis> MythbuntuGuest52, the two ended is the blaster. The blaster as a red tip
[21:12] <darthanubis> MythbuntuGuest52, the one that is split is the blaster
[21:13] <Spirits-Sight> I am trying to connect a device for the DEAF called Video Phone
[21:13] <MythbuntuGuest52> And this can be setup to work or is this the thing that you said does not work well?
[21:13] <darthanubis> Spirits-Sight, then you are on your own at that point. I'd see what google has on a video phone for the defa and mythtv
[21:14] <darthanubis> MythbuntuGuest52, the blaster is reported not to work. But the remote works fine for just controlling the frontend
[21:14] <Spirits-Sight> so that it will be show on the computer, right now using a old TV tuner that is not compatible with mythtv and with that TV Tuner using a converter from composite to coax but I was told can not do that with digital tuner
[21:15] <MythbuntuGuest52> OK. Remote to control the front end with the blaster as the remote receiver? just not relaying to the stb or do I need a different receiver? and Keyboard for channel changing?
[21:15] <darthanubis> I have no experience with a digituner as of yet
[21:15] <darthanubis> sorry
[21:16] <darthanubis> MythbuntuGuest52, forgetabout the stb
[21:16] <darthanubis> MythbuntuGuest52, the remote will control the forntend without a keyboard and mouse. But the keyboard and mouse are a nice addition
[21:17] <darthanubis> MythbuntuGuest52, have you even ran the MCC yet to test this?
[21:17] <darthanubis> That way you'd see what I'm saying and I would not have to type so mouch;)
[21:17] <darthanubis> much
[21:18] <MythbuntuGuest52> what is the MMC?
[21:19] <darthanubis> your not going to use scroll are you?
[21:20] <darthanubis> mythbuntu-control-center
[21:21] <MythbuntuGuest52> Ohhh Yes, I have but I just built the box today and in my research i was told that the remote can only run the front end but  that channel changes must be initiated by the card and so the irblaster is needed to change the channel.
[21:22] <MythbuntuGuest52> remote to card card to stb is the only way, is what I was told.
[21:22] <darthanubis> the card with change the channels with the remote
[21:22] <MythbuntuGuest52> sweet.
[21:22] <darthanubis> fire up MCC and try it
[21:22] <darthanubis> if you are not using a stb then you don't need a blaster
[21:23] <MythbuntuGuest52> then what is the blaster for? ... never mind.
[21:23] <darthanubis> if you are using a stb, then your screwed
[21:23] <darthanubis> the blaster is for the stb
[21:23] <darthanubis> I don't have a stb on my mythbox
[21:23] <darthanubis> straight coaxial cable
[21:23] <MythbuntuGuest52> I have directv, can I change the channels with the remote without blasting to the directv receiver?
[21:24] <darthanubis> I don't know:(
[21:24] <darthanubis> I dropped Directv before I could test that myself
[21:24] <MythbuntuGuest52> I will test it and make it happen somehow.
[21:24] <darthanubis> good attitude
[21:25] <MythbuntuGuest52> You are saying that coax to the capture card and life is good but if the stb is needed for decrypting then the blaster is required for channel changing?
[21:25] <MythbuntuGuest52> This is what I was told in my research.
[21:41] <mersault> Reading the 0.22 transition guide, I see that MythVideo can parse my filename/directory structure, but it seems that Jamu doesn't use the directory. Is there a simple method for getting MythVideo to parse what data it can out of the directory structure, and then have jamu use that bit of data already in the DB to get the rest?
[21:50] <Lunar_Lamp> When trying to run jammu on my remote frontend, I get this error message which suggests that the upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 did not go smoothly on both my front and backend:
[21:50] <Lunar_Lamp> #CRITICAL - Backend has version 50 and we speak version 40
[21:50] <Lunar_Lamp> Any suggestions as to what I need to do to resolve this?