[00:00] <saketh> hello
[00:00] <sebsebseb> SpaceCake_: yes  Flash  get issues in Ubuntu, and not much can be done about it since it's closed source
[00:00] <Haberdasher456> joaopinto, My motherboard apparently supports 4 gig
[00:00] <Lutra> sebsebseb: no, as i sad, i formated the entire system (actually twice, it's very unlikely that i have anything besided 9.10)
[00:00] <anao> @<Haberdasher456> then try another kernel with PAE
[00:00] <crawler> hi.  does anyone know of a tool that can move (.txt) files into directories based on the first letter in their name?  (example: Some Book.txt is moved to the "S" folder, This other Book.txt is moved to the "T" folder etc.)
[00:00] <sgtmattbaker> I am using abiword. When I type there is a dot (period) under almost every character I type. Also, when I move back and forth with the arrow keys I have many black marks left by the cursor. Both issues go away after scrolling down or typing a few new lines but it is annoying.
[00:00] <sebsebseb> SpaceCake_: well in Firefox  issues, other browsers usauly  not
[00:00] <saketh> i have dual booted ubuntu karmic with win7 and i get an error when i start up and can't load win7 or ubuntu
[00:00] <joaopinto> Haberdasher456, are you sure ? did you read the docs ?
[00:00] <Haberdasher456> joaopinto, In bios and Vista the full 4 gig is shown
[00:00] <timClicks> i had to fiddle with some of the kernel modules to get my avi drivers to work - but i'm assuming this wouldn't have affected sound
[00:00] <sebsebseb> Lutra: you don't have Ext4 though
[00:00] <joaopinto> Haberdasher456, mine does also support it phisically
[00:00] <thijs_> sebsebseb, found it, you can enter the menu by holding shift when booting
[00:00] <joaopinto> Haberdasher456, ah ok :\
[00:01] <sebsebseb> Lutra: by default  for clean install 9.10 puts on Ext4
[00:01] <SpaceCake_> so the solution is to use a different browser?
[00:01] <randomusr> Haberdasher456, are you using an AMD CPU?
[00:01] <sebsebseb> thijs_: ok
[00:01] <anao> @<Haberdasher456> if vista  show 4g ubunt must see it
[00:01] <Shoshana>  There is possible like in windows 7 (mini preview / eliipse tabs) example : http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8396/74754754858.jpg
[00:01] <sebsebseb> thijs_: good
[00:01] <Haberdasher456> anao, i shouldn't need PAE with a 64 OS right?
[00:01] <anao> @<Haberdasher456> ubuntu is the better system
[00:01] <Lutra> I know, i formated ext3 the second time, because i thought it might have been the cause of the problem
[00:01] <xiong> CompizConfig Settings Manager > General Options > Desktop Size has three controls: Horizontal Virtual Size, Vertical Virtual Size, and Number of Desktops (hsize, vsize, and number_of_desktops, respectively). Workspace Switcher > Preferences has no corresponding control for number_of_desktops; it controls (calling them 'workspaces') the same things that hsize and vsize control. Workspaces not eq Desktops! Can anyone explain?
[00:01] <Haberdasher456> randomusr, no.. intel quad
[00:01]  * saketh needs help
[00:01] <sebsebseb> Lutra:  and didn't do swap?
[00:02] <sebsebseb> !ask |  saketh
[00:02] <anao> @<Haberdasher456> yes but there are diffrent kernels
[00:02] <xTheGoat121x> I've got a problem with indicator-applet. I've removed Evolution but there's still separators -- here's what it looks like: http://tinypic.com/r/2py73uw/4
[00:02] <gp> i am using EC2 instance
[00:02] <elhoir> Biovor3: and how do i know if i have anything muted in there?
[00:02] <souler> Anyone help me fix my webcam????????????
[00:02] <Shoshana>  There is possible like in windows 7 (mini preview / eliipse tabs) example : http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8396/74754754858.jpg
[00:02] <sebsebseb> souler: cheese can configure them
[00:02] <sebsebseb> !webcam | souler
[00:02] <randomusr> Haberdasher456, what motherboard?
[00:02] <saketh> my dell studio 1555 won't boot. i get a grub error. i have ubuntu 9.10 and win7 on it
[00:02] <Lutra> there is a swap on the sda, 5.75GB
[00:02] <elhoir> also, in the sound preferences, the only sound device i have is "internal device" :S
[00:02] <sgtmattbaker> I am using abiword. When I type there is a dot (period) under almost every character I type. Also, when I move back and forth with the arrow keys I have many black marks left by the cursor. Both issues go away after scrolling down or typing a few new lines but it is annoying.
[00:03] <Haberdasher456> randomusr, ASROCK P45TS
[00:03] <anao> @<Haberdasher456> try bigmem-kernels
[00:03] <elhoir> Biovor3: also, in the sound preferences, the only sound device i have is "internal device" :S
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Lutra: maybe you have an Ubuntu install split up between the two hard disks?
[00:03] <joeyeye> xiong, workspace switcher is just that... a switcher wherr you can go fwd/back through workspaces
[00:03] <elhoir> "internal audio"
[00:03] <saketh> !help
[00:03] <Haberdasher456> anao, does that require recompiling the kernel. (i've never done that before)
[00:04] <saketh> hello?
[00:04] <Lutra> sebsebseb: how is it possible? can i check that it really is that way?
[00:04] <randomusr> Does anyone know a spot to get the system specs quickly and easily in 9.10
[00:04] <sebsebseb> Lutra: you have two Ext3's
[00:04] <xiong> joeyeye, Completely understand Workspace Switcher. I generally use 6 workspaces. No problem there. What is 'number_of_desktops'? The answer is not 6.
[00:04] <anao> @<Haberdasher456> no only install
[00:04] <sebsebseb> Lutra: a swap, and an extended partition  that is being used by nothing it seems
[00:04] <joaopinto> randomusr, lshw
[00:04] <arand> Haberdasher456: sorry just as a check, does "uname -a" state it as x86_64 correctly?
[00:04] <anao> aptitude serch linux-image...
[00:04] <sebsebseb> Lutra: if you have two   partitions  one for each hard disk,  that is  your  /  partition
[00:05] <sebsebseb> Lutra: that could be the issue
[00:05] <sebsebseb> Lutra: maybe
[00:05] <randomusr> joaopint, do you know the command for bios information?
[00:05] <Haberdasher456> arand, Linux Hostname 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:05:01 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:05] <randomusr> something like dm bios
[00:05] <sebsebseb> Lutra: plus if you have that only one of them will be controlling Grub
[00:05] <FrozEEEn> i'm working on installing ubuntu to an old mandriva box i run and am working on partitions - can i take an ext3 partition and make it ext4 without formatting it?
[00:05] <sebsebseb> FrozEEEn: some how yes
[00:05] <Haberdasher456> anao, so I can install bigmem-kernels with apt-get?
[00:05] <darryl> hi
[00:05] <rm200910> Hi., I have a script that fails under cron. where can I find the error messages? I don't have postfix or mail installed (I think!)
[00:05] <Guest99184> kernel question: What happens to open files when my system returns from hibernation, but the root partition gets mounted read only because of consistency issues?
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Lutra: really you want Ext4 for 9.10 also
[00:06] <Guest99184> Can applications with files already open continue to write to them?
[00:06] <xiong> If I set number_of_desktops to anything > 1, the switcher changes appearance; the original 6 workspace thumbnails are not shown but now desktop thumbnails are shown (which look exactly like workspace thumbnails, but are not).
[00:06] <FrozEEEn> sebsebseb: so it does work if i just tell it that it's an ext4 and not 3? and it'll update safely?
[00:06] <sebsebseb> FrozEEEn: in fact have a look at the 9.10 release notes
[00:06] <woodyjlw> trying to install 9.10 on a windows 7 machine and get this error on install "Ubi-console-setup failed with exit code 1. further information may be found in /var/log/syslog." and it wont ever make it to the drive partition screen. any idea why? it is a custom built pc that I built with asus M2N4-sli board and dual cor amd with sata 250 for os drive
[00:06] <sebsebseb> !notes |  FrozEEEn
[00:06] <Lutra> sebsebseb: you lost me there, let me get this straight, i need to make sure i have only 1 / partition, and prefereblly ext4?
[00:06] <darryl> ho do i join a ceraitain irc like freedomradio
[00:06] <Shoshana>  There is possible like in windows 7 (mini preview / eliipse tabs) example : http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8396/74754754858.jpg
[00:06] <sebsebseb> FrozEEEn: no you would have to convert it
[00:06] <crawler> sgtmattbaker: i get the same thing.  i'm looking for a solution now..
[00:07] <FrozEEEn> does the installe convert it when i choose ext4?
[00:07] <sebsebseb> Lutra: you have two partitions both Ext3
[00:07] <sebsebseb> Lutra: maybe you have two 9.10 installs
[00:07] <freaklyweirdo> is it possible install ubuntu on netbook asus eee series?
[00:07] <sebsebseb> Lutra: you only need one 9.10 install
[00:07] <xiong> I have my workspaces set as hsize=3, vsize=2; if number_of_desktops=1 then Workspace Switcher shows a little 3 by 2 grid.
[00:07] <Lutra> sebsebseb: I have 2 9.10 installs
[00:07] <clemons> I haven't updated my ubuntu in ages and now the apt-get can't connect to any of the multiverses
[00:07] <Scunizi> FrozEEEn: sort of.. all new files will be in ext4 and the older ones in ext3
[00:07] <Lutra> sebsebseb: pretty sure actually
[00:07] <clemons> Does anyone know a guide to updating this?
[00:08] <cellae> So, um, I know it's a longshot that anyone's able to help me here, but I have a Firefox process that has existed as "defunct" through several reinstallations and reboots. I can't kill -9 it, doing a find on firefox returns absolutely nothing
[00:08] <BigMao> Hi there, my sound no longer works after upgrading to Karmic.  Anyone have suggestions on how I can get it working again?
[00:08] <dragon> is there a way to request a new package?
[00:08] <xrdodrx> How do I get my old bootsplash back?
[00:08] <xiong> If I set number_of_desktops=6, then Workspace Switcher shows a 6 by 1 row.
[00:08] <dragon> !sound | BigMao
[00:08] <sebsebseb> Lutra: it's easier to delete both, and  install again
[00:08] <Lutra> sebsebseb: but none of the manages to boot
[00:08] <woodyjlw> trying to install 9.10 on a windows 7 machine and get this error on install "Ubi-console-setup failed with exit code 1. further information may be found in /var/log/syslog." and it wont ever make it to the drive partition screen. any idea why? it is a custom built pc that I built with asus M2N4-sli board and dual cor amd with sata 250 for os drive
[00:08] <fallendarieus> hi im new to ubuntu and i was wondering if someone could help me with something
[00:08] <dragon> !mirrors|clemons
[00:08] <xrdodrx> fallendarieus: Ask
[00:08] <BigMao> dragon, thanks: I'll try those
[00:08] <crawler> sgtmattbaker: are you by chance using compiz?
[00:09] <clemons> !mirrors
[00:09] <Lutra> sebsebseb: you think it will fix the problem? because it's a long install, i would like to be more sure
[00:09] <xiong> Here's the kicker: The second and additional desktops have no panels; they're completely empty except for the desktop background itself. There is no way to switch into them except by clicking in Workspace Switcher and no way at all to switch out without rebooting the system. This is bad. Help?
[00:09] <Lutra> sebsebseb: anything else i should check B4?
[00:09] <zealiod> How can i get my linux box to accept all VLAN traffic coming in on it's LAN port?
[00:09] <clemons> I don't think the !mirrors command is working
[00:10] <souler> Cheese can't fix my "upside down" problem and I can't find much of usefull things on the ubuntu wesite. >.<
[00:10] <xrdodrx> Is there any way to get the old boot splash screen back?
[00:10] <sebsebseb> clemons: ok
[00:10] <sebsebseb> clemons: Which version of Ubuntu are you on?
[00:10] <FrozEEEn> Scunizi: is there any disadvantage to just mounting a 3 as a 4? or am i better off formatting it to make it a 4?
[00:10] <sebsebseb> Lutra: and yes do Ext4, and  if you do manual install  you can do seperate homes as well those  can be useful
[00:10] <sebsebseb> !home |  Lutra
[00:10] <duffydack> That "effect" in win7 doesnt impress me at all.. the previews could be of anything to me, they arent big/clear enough.  Compiz has similar plugin
[00:10] <c0ld> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8227292#post8227292
[00:10] <FrozEEEn> or is there an advantage to just leaving it as 3?
[00:10] <c0ld> please advise on what to do
[00:10] <woodyjlw> trying to install 9.10 on a windows 7 machine and get this error on install "Ubi-console-setup failed with exit code 1. further information may be found in /var/log/syslog." and it wont ever make it to the drive partition screen. any idea why? it is a custom built pc that I built with asus M2N4-sli board and dual cor amd with sata 250 for os drive. I just need to know why i am getting the error. maybe my system just not compati
[00:10] <woodyjlw> ble with linux or I am doing something wrong???
[00:10] <sebsebseb> Lutra:   did you do a guided install before?  use entire hard disk?  that would set up swap for you and  a /  no seperate home though
[00:10] <crawler> sgtmattbaker: when i disable compiz, the artifacts don't appear in AbiWord
[00:10] <xTheGoat121x> Is there any way to reset the Indicator-Applet?
[00:11] <Baversjo> I can't install packages in pear or pecl. Using ubuntu server 9.10. Here is what I get from bash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/308037/
[00:11] <clemons> wait, is there no way to just update my current distribution without upgrading ubuntu versions
[00:11] <sebsebseb> clemons: Which version are you on?
[00:11] <Ttech> After I upgraded to 9.10 ACPI died, the correct modules are in /etc/modules however they won't load, how do I fix this?
[00:11] <clemons> 7.10
[00:11] <dale> can you make public folders with ubuntu one?
[00:11] <sebsebseb> clemons: I think the older repos kind of disappear  or most of it does,  when the releases no longer are supported,  after a while
[00:11] <jrib> !7.10 | clemons
[00:11] <duffydack> Expo and shift switcher (all desktops) are all I require.
[00:12] <sebsebseb> jrib: yes he wants to upgrade
[00:12] <clemons> hmmmm
[00:12] <xiong> Is there a command line command to create a new panel?
[00:12] <clemons> I don't know if i'll be able to get my network card to work on the new ubuntu
[00:12] <Lutra> I already did the guided install, and it did not boot
[00:12] <jrib> clemons: try a live cd
[00:12] <clemons> Well, I guess i'll just have to reinstall :(
[00:12] <Wazzzaaa> clemons: you can blacklist certain packages to NOT upgrade them (in general).  Don't know how an upgrade deals with that
[00:12] <Lostinspace_46> xiong "gnome-panel"
[00:12] <davidgray> Hey guys, just wondering if might be able to get some help. I've installed 9.10 netbook remix on my dell mini 9. I've finally got the Broadcom STA driver to show up in "Hardware Drivers". However there is still no wireless in the drop down.
[00:12] <mgmuscari> how's karmic working out for people?
[00:13] <jrib> clemons: but while there are mirrors of repos for 7.10 still up (you need them to bring your system up to date before upgrading and ubottu tells you how to use them) you should upgrade because security updates are no longer provided for 7.10
[00:13] <dragon> !karmic | mgm
[00:13] <Lutra> sebsebseb: anyway, tnx, since it's a long install i'll try it tommorow, i don't have time right now, tnx for the help
[00:13] <saketh> !say
[00:13] <mgmuscari> davidgray: are you sure the module is active?
[00:13] <jrib> !upgrade > clemons
[00:13]  * xiong tries that
[00:13] <saketh> !say
[00:13] <dragon> mgmuscari: pretty good
[00:13] <davidgray> yeah it says "The driver is activated but currently not in use"
[00:13] <woodyjlw> trying to install 9.10 on a windows 7 machine and get this error on install "Ubi-console-setup failed with exit code 1. further information may be found in /var/log/syslog." and it wont ever make it to the drive partition screen. any idea why? it is a custom built pc that I built with asus M2N4-sli board and dual cor amd with sata 250 for os drive.  is ubuntu just not seeing my sata drive or what?  trying to install from a usb
[00:13] <woodyjlw> drive
[00:13] <saketh> !upgrade
[00:13] <sebsebseb> clemons:  you don't need anything later than 8.04 at the moment
[00:13] <mgmuscari> davidgray: you need to make sure it's using that driver if it's the one you want to be used
[00:14] <xrdodrx> !eol
[00:14] <sebsebseb> !lts |  clemons
[00:14] <Lostinspace_46> mgmuscari, fine except for internet
[00:14] <Kohnrad82> is it possible to downgrade back to 9.04? im having lots of problems with 9.10
[00:14] <xrdodrx> !6.06
[00:14] <mgmuscari> Lostinspace_46: what internet problems are you having?
[00:14] <sebsebseb> !downgrade |  Kohnrad82
[00:14] <clemons> hmmm
[00:14] <sebsebseb> Kohnrad82: clean install is the way to get 9.04 back, and issues such as?
[00:14] <Kohnrad82> well upgrading broke my system too :)
[00:14] <jacquesdupontd> my ubuntu is now working Perfectly
[00:14] <clemons> maybe i'll wait until Lucid Lynx and just reinstall then
[00:14] <xrdodrx> Kohnrad82: If you have the old livecd
[00:14] <clemons> but thanks for the links
[00:14] <jacquesdupontd> with my fucking ati card
[00:15] <Lostinspace_46> mgmuscari, why would it take 30+ sec to open a page when I have 16Mbps down??
[00:15] <sebsebseb> !language | jacquesdupontd
[00:15] <jacquesdupontd> i knew it :)
[00:15] <jacquesdupontd> sorry everybody
[00:15] <mgmuscari> Lostinspace_46: is this universal across all pages?
[00:15] <arand> Kohnrad82: afraid no, backup your home dir and other important items and reinstall if you want to get back.
[00:15] <Ttech> How do I get ACPI working as it seems to have broken from 9.04 to 9.10 upgrade.
[00:15] <saketh> hello
[00:15] <jacquesdupontd> well i wanted to say that now if someone needs help for anything im available
[00:15] <tryingtoboot> I need major help! Linux was messed up so I went into XP and deleted the other partitions and then I booted into the XP cd and did fixmbr but it's still trying to load grub!
[00:15] <xrdodrx> saketh: Hi
[00:15] <tryingtoboot> Computer is an HP a1010n by the way, so linux is hard to get it working on it
[00:15] <sebsebseb> jacquesdupontd: ATI  issues  are common with Ubuntu since ATI's lack of support,  if you got some  fixed, there will be other people out there at times that come in here, that   you can maybe help
[00:15] <Lostinspace_46> mgmuscari, seems to be..ping is good...xchat opens as usual
[00:15] <Kohnrad82> sebsebseb: 9.10 increased my boot times, made my 3g connection screwey, firefox wont run  files i download, and amsn hangs on login
[00:15] <Ttech> tryingtoboot, Did you change your boot loader back to the ms one?
[00:15] <jacquesdupontd> Ttech, this is a question i wanted to know i made a sudo apt-get install acpi
[00:16] <tryingtoboot> Ttech: I tried fixmbr
[00:16] <Ttech> jacquesdupontd, ACPI is installed.
[00:16] <sebsebseb> Kohnrad82: ah and after an upgrade?
[00:16] <Ttech> the package that is.
[00:16] <Ttech> :(
[00:16] <Roasted> Question - I know I can "set" a group so that the SAME group gets auto-assigned to every file that gets created in a directory, but what about permissions? How can I "set" 775 perms on a folder so anything and everything inside gets 775?
[00:16] <TonyTheTiger> is there an easy way for me to download packages, i keep missing dependancies.
[00:16] <TonyTheTiger> its frustrating.
[00:16] <Random832> so is kubuntu any good? i haven't used it in a while
[00:16] <sebsebseb> Kohnrad82: 9.10 is one that should be clean installed really, quite a lot of people have ended up with issues after upgrading from 9.04
[00:16] <xiong> Lostinspace_46, gnome_panel will not execute, saying I can't replace the existing panel shell. ("Cannot register the panel shell: there is already one running.") This makes perfect sense but can I override this in any way?
[00:16] <mgmuscari> Lostinspace_46: maybe it's your browser
[00:16] <Random832> like since 6.something
[00:16] <MenZa> Random832: matter of opinion.
[00:16] <jacquesdupontd> sebsebseb, i know it that's so bad about that ati issue on ubuntu i have catalyst 9.10 installed and it works quite cool when you know how to set it
[00:17] <crawler> tryingtoboot: also try the fixboot command
[00:17] <assistance> my box wont connect to my wifi network. I'm on Karmic and am using network manager. The network manager icon just rotates clockwise and never stops. What happened?
[00:17] <Kohnrad82> sebsebseb: ill try backing up my files and doing a clean install of 9.10 when i have more time before i go back to 9.04
[00:17] <Lostinspace_46> mgm gonna check that...have FF 3.5
[00:17] <tryingtoboot> crawler: I tried that but it said it didn't have something or other and it couldn't do it
[00:17] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: does catalyst 9.10 support DRI2 yet?
[00:17] <Ttech> So am I reading this right, i should do a clean install of 9.10?
[00:17] <sgtmattbaker> crawler: I dont think I have compiz enabled. This is a clean linux install
[00:17] <jacquesdupontd> sebsebseb, but definetely nvidia is better even in windows i don't know the 3d is different the texture also i found nvidia more round and more hot
[00:17] <mgmuscari> Lostinspace_46: i like Epiphany, which is the gnome default browser (also webkit based FTW)
[00:17] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, it seems yes i've seen some xorg with dri2 mentionned
[00:17] <woodyjlw> trying to install 9.10 and get this error on install "Ubi-console-setup failed with exit code 1. further information may be found in /var/log/syslog." and it wont ever make it to the drive partition screen. any idea why?
[00:17] <sebsebseb> Ttech:   maybe yeah
[00:17] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, but i don't know how to set it
[00:17] <Ttech> Gah
[00:18] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: :O so finally i can have OpenGL rendered video ???
[00:18] <Ttech> I got a very twitchy program installed on my server that is a bain to backup.
[00:18] <Ttech> But I guess I shall try.
[00:18] <crawler> sgtmattbaker: in the terminal, type metacity --replace to be sure
[00:18] <saketh> xrdodrx: i have a dell studio 15 with ubuntu karmic and win7. i keep getting this grub error and can't boot into my os.
[00:18] <Lostinspace_46> xiong not sure...maybe killall and then try??
[00:18] <sebsebseb> Ttech: also  proper servers should be running the LTS
[00:18] <sebsebseb> !server |  Ttech
[00:18] <mgmuscari> woodyjlw: are you using a raid controller or anything?
[00:18] <c0ld> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8227292#post8227292
[00:18] <c0ld> please advise on what to do
[00:19] <woodyjlw> it has sata raid built in to board
[00:19] <Veinor> FOr some reason my speakers on Karmic on my 1005ha constantly produce static, regardless of what volume I have them on (but not if they're muted)
[00:19] <mgmuscari> woodyjlw: are you using a raid set?
[00:19] <Ttech> sebner, I know, my main server uses LTS always will, however I have a secondary one which uses the picky software. :)
[00:19] <Ttech> But thanks.
[00:19] <woodyjlw> it is custom built pc asus m2n4-sli
[00:19] <woodyjlw> no
[00:19] <mgmuscari> Veinor: install alsamixer, then run it and turn the PCM volume up to 100%
[00:19] <tryingtoboot> Ttech and Crawler, I'm going to try to re-install Ubuntu even though it doesn't like my video card, just hoping that I can configure its grub to at least let me get into xp
[00:19] <woodyjlw> just one sata 250
[00:19] <tryingtoboot> could that work?
[00:19] <xiong> Lostinspace_46, When I jump to the second virtual desktop, there are no panels there -- nothing at all. The only way I can figure to get back again is to create a new panel using some utility I can invoke via a hotkey, such as Terminal. But it would be nice to test this before making the jump, since if it doesn't work, it means a reboot.
[00:19] <jacquesdupontd> i have just bought an toshiba satellite l300d 21z amd sempron 3ghz + 3ghz of ddr2 + 160 gigs + ati hd3100 for 190 euros, mgmuscari  this is a good price no ?
[00:19] <mgmuscari> Veinor: weird bug either in ALSA or PulseAudio
[00:19] <Veinor> mgmuscari: PCM volume is already up to 100%
[00:20] <woodyjlw> and 2 25 gig on ide
[00:20] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: i wouldn't know, i don't follow hardware so much, but that sounds pretty cheap :)
[00:20] <woodyjlw> and 2 250 gig on ide
[00:20] <Lostinspace_46> xiong, don't know...sorry
[00:20] <mgmuscari> Veinor: last time i ran into that symptom that was the cause... not sure where else to go from there....
[00:20] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, it's seems new and i have windows seven (not that bad by the way) + ubuntu 9.10 multiboot everything working perfectly
[00:20] <woodyjlw> no raid is setup
[00:20] <Ttech> tryingtoboot, What Graphics card? If its ATI
[00:20] <xiong> Lostinspace_46, Don't be; you've helped, thank you.
[00:20] <Ttech> There's a toggel you can use to make it boot better.
[00:20] <tryingtoboot> intel
[00:20] <Ttech> oh.
[00:20] <Ttech> Sorry.
[00:20] <xiong> Here goes.
[00:20] <Veinor> Fixed it by turning the front mic volume down to 0.
[00:20] <Ttech> You can try it anyway
[00:20] <toubab> Quick question:  In ubuntu, I launched xchat through the terminal, is there a way to close the terminal without making xchat close
[00:21] <woodyjlw> the 2 ide 250's are storage and the 250 sata is for os
[00:21] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, its a laptop for 190 euros nearly new with windows seven working perfectly and ubuntu as well (hopefully)
[00:21] <Ttech> toubab, xchat &
[00:21] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: congrats
[00:21] <Veinor> toubab: press ctrl-z
[00:21] <BCS-Satori> I moved my ubuntu server 8.04 from vmware workstation to vmware esx as well as added a virtual nic.  when i do ifconfig i have no interfaces, how can i determine the name of each interface?
[00:21] <Veinor> then type disown
[00:21] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, did you tried windows seven ?
[00:21] <davidgray> Hey guys how do I activate a restricted driver now I have it installed?
[00:21] <tryingtoboot> Ttech: intel, it's an hp a1010n
[00:21] <souler> gah I still can't get my webcam turned around >.< hjalp!
[00:21] <Ttech> tryingtoboot, hmm. You look on the web?
[00:21] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, would like to test virtualization
[00:21] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: i'm actually planning to back up my /home, wipe my drive, and migrate to windows 7 and karmic later tonight
[00:21] <tryingtoboot> Ttech: Yes
[00:21] <Veinor> davidgray: reboot if it's not activated already.
[00:21] <phoenixz> Anybody who could tell me how to solve sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a    gives me this : http://pastebin.com/m46588684     How can I fix this?
[00:22] <Colonel_Panik> jacquesdupontd, check tigerdiredt.com or newegg.com for comparisome
[00:22] <tryingtoboot> Ttech, I wasted a couple days without finding a working solution
[00:22] <omani> i dont let the interfaces come up at bootime. /etc7init.d/networking is removed from defaults. but i see them waking up everytime i start the system. is the network manager controlling the interfaces? like, when its loading itsself?
[00:22] <tryingtoboot> :/
[00:22] <Ttech> tryingtoboot, The other option is you can leave grub installed or reinstall it
[00:22] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, first time i install a windows and all my harware reconised and installed, all of them
[00:22] <Ttech> with like grub super disk
[00:22] <ayman> how to change gdm on ubuntu 9.10 karmic
[00:22] <MenZa> ayman: Short answer: You don't.
[00:23] <jacquesdupontd> thx Colonel_Panik
[00:23] <ayman> why
[00:23] <jacquesdupontd> Colonel_Panik, did you tried it yourself ?
[00:23] <MenZa> ayman: Long answer: Nothing's been written to do so yet. So you don't. :)
[00:23] <mgmuscari> phoenixz: try running lsof to see what else has a handle on that file
[00:23] <toubab> Hi again, ctrl-z is not what I am trying to do.  I do not want xchat to close, i just want to get rid of the terminal window but still be able to use xchat, is that possible?
[00:23] <ayman> ok sir and thank you
[00:23] <BCS-Satori> How does one determine the alias of their network card (ie: eth0)  I added a virtual nic in vmware, but it does not show up under ifconfig
[00:23] <Veinor> toubab: ctrl-z will do what you want
[00:23] <phoenixz> mgmuscari: okay
[00:23] <Veinor> in the terminal, press ctrl-z
[00:23] <mgmuscari> toubab: use alt+f2 to launch applications when you don
[00:24] <xiong> Lostinspace_46, That actually worked, sort of. I clicked into the second desktop, hotkey-opened a Terminal window, and $ gnome-panel, which gave me the same error. Then I pidof and kill-ed the existing panel and *immediately* my 'old' panel setup appeared there, on second desktop. But when I clicked back to first desktop, XChat is still running but no panels here!
[00:24] <mgmuscari> *don't want to keep a terminal window open
[00:24] <Shoshana>  There is possible like in windows 7 (mini preview / eliipse tabs) example : http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8396/74754754858.jpg
[00:24] <toubab> thank you mgmuscari
[00:24] <ayman> and i have some problem  when i paly 3gp video
[00:24] <xiong> Oh no, weirdness! When I clicked on desktop, my panels came back!
[00:24] <jacquesdupontd> Colonel_Panik, talking about seven
[00:24] <woodyjlw> dose magicjack work with ubuntu yet?
[00:24] <mgmuscari> toubab: killing a shell that you've launched an application from will kill the application (since it's a child process - if you used & you forked it)
[00:24] <graft> hi, anyone able to help me get my rt2870 wireless card working in karmic?
[00:25] <toubab> Yea, you understood my question mgmuscari thank you.  I'll use alt-f2 to launch from now on
[00:25] <graft> in jaunty i was compiling an old version of the driver, but apparently that version is no longer compatible with 2.6.31 kernels
[00:25] <mgmuscari> toubab: np :)
[00:25] <Shoshana>  There is possible like in windows 7 (mini preview / eliipse tabs) example : http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8396/74754754858.jpg
[00:25] <CoLdFiRe> graft install the latest version of ubuntu
[00:25] <CoLdFiRe> 9.10
[00:26] <mgmuscari> !compiz | shoshana
[00:26] <mgmuscari> !ccsm | shoshana
[00:26] <graft> CoLdFiRe: i did. that's when my problem started.
[00:26] <Ttech> Is compiz even still developed?
[00:26] <woodyjlw> will magicjack work with new ubuntu 9.10?
[00:26] <KitsuneDragon> Ttech: i would imagine so
[00:26] <graft> Ttech: yeah, it's still developed...
[00:26] <mgmuscari> woodyjlw: magicjack is a pestilence :(
[00:26] <Ttech> Last time I was on their site it seemed rather un updated. But cool.
[00:26] <crawler> Shoshana: compiz window previews
[00:26] <KitsuneDragon> SKYPE pwns Magicfail
[00:27] <CoLdFiRe> Graft, go to the synaptic package manager and get the program and get the new version of the driver
[00:27] <ayman> another qution   realy needed to program like yahoo messenger   (voice-cam)
[00:27] <KitsuneDragon> ayman: empathy?
[00:27] <functionofxy> hello. I have an ext3 /home. I know that it's possible to migrate this to ext4, but is there some way to apply all of the ext4 'magic' to all of my files, even the pre-existing ones? Thanks.
[00:27] <Ttech> pidgin has video support too, though just for jabber
[00:27] <saketh> please answer my question
[00:28] <sebsebseb> functionofxy: have a look at the  9.10 release notes
[00:28] <ayman> no sir its no voice on it
[00:28] <sebsebseb> !notes |  functionofxy
[00:28] <functionofxy> thanks sebsebseb
[00:28] <woodyjlw> :(  ubuntu is so popular dont know why all these company's over look us. we should bombard then with mail and picket there businesses for support!
[00:28] <sven_oostenbrink> mgmuscari: nothing...
[00:28] <dale> hey, I was just wondering if it was possible to make public (and browseable) folders with ubuntu one?
[00:28] <sven_oostenbrink> mgmuscari: lsof  | grep config.dat shows nothing
[00:29] <woodyjlw> my canon i350 wont work with it either
[00:29] <graft> CoLdFiRe: i don't think you're reading what i wrote
[00:29] <functionofxy> sebsebseb, this doesn't seem to say much about migrating. just warnings.
[00:29] <GregD> Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows how to set up a DAAP server to share with some machines running itunes
[00:29] <mgmuscari> sven_oostenbrink: still won't run?
[00:30] <mgmuscari> sven_oostenbrink: have you checked the permissions on the file?
[00:30] <CoLdFiRe> Graft what did u write
[00:30] <sven_oostenbrink> mgmuscari: nope, still won't run.. Im executing this with root so I suppose permissions shouldnt be a problem
[00:30] <graft> GregD: long ago there was a daapd project, but i think it's quite ancient now and may no longer work
[00:30] <mgmuscari> hmm
[00:31] <SetiAmon> anyone here know how to remove the sound distortions with my xfi xtreme music on karmic?
[00:31] <graft> GregD: try this: http://www.fireflymediaserver.org/
[00:31] <IRQBreaker> SetiAmon: bump!
[00:31] <GregD> I downloaded something called Tangerine Media Server
[00:31] <functionofxy> sebsebseb, i want to migrate my file system AND apply extends and all of the other nice ext4 features to my old stuff. it would be nice to be able to resize the partition as well.
[00:32] <GregD> graft: do you know how to install that.  I am very new to ubuntu, and I had looked at the firefly media server, but was having trouble setting it up
[00:32] <sebsebseb> functionofxy: it links to the Ext4 wki
[00:34] <graft> GregD: erm. i've never installed it, it looks like you have to compile it
[00:34] <SetiAmon> ircbreaker:you also have sound distortions?I have managed to reduce the "echo's" and really heavy stuff to a staticy distortion,I removed pulseaudio threw(check assossociated uninstalls,make sure it doesn't gauge out gnome etc) anyhow then i fallowed the instructions to update ALSA.But i still have staticy distortions,I wish i could just install the creative beta drivers like i did with jaunty
[00:34] <rictec> be well i m out for now
[00:34] <functionofxy> sebsebseb, i read through the section on "converting an ext3 filesystem to ext4" and it mentions that extends are not automatically applied to old files. some people online say that there is a way to do this and also make all of the other ext4 magic possible. i don't understand the language on the wiki page. could you point me in the right direction? thanks a lot!
[00:35] <Dasda> I ran ubuntu live cd on my desktop, it said that hdd failure is imminent. SHould i install ubuntu or just run out what I have now? I dont really want to buy a new hdd right now
[00:35] <mgmuscari> sven_oostenbrink: here's a thought - you sure the partition it's looking in is mounted rw?
[00:35] <sebsebseb> functionofxy: I  think the Ext4 wiki is the right direction, or Google.  Also  maye extends can't be  done on a converted system
[00:35] <GregD> Graft: would you be willing to tell me how to go through that process?
[00:35] <sebsebseb> functionofxy: its probably easier to just start over with a nice clean install of 9.10, plus anyway,  quite a lot of people have had issues after upgrading 9.04 to 9.10
[00:35] <arand> To jump on the lucid bandwagoon is replacing sources currently the only way? (VBox, breakage is _intended_)
[00:36] <Roasted> Question - I know I can "set" a group so that the SAME group gets auto-assigned to every file that gets created in a directory, but what about permissions? How can I "set" 775 perms on a folder so anything and everything inside gets 775?
[00:36] <sven_oostenbrink> mgmuscari: yes, checked it with touch
[00:36] <functionofxy> sebsebseb, i generally keep my /home and do a clean / install.
[00:36] <c0ld> Any recommended versions of Ubuntu
[00:36] <functionofxy> thanks. i'll keep looking for info
[00:36] <wildweathel> arand, yes, I believe so.  Also, #ubuntu+1 appears to be down right now.
[00:36] <c0ld> that doesnt have as many problems as 9.10 karmic koala
[00:36] <mgmuscari> sven_oostenbrink: touch updated the modified time?
[00:36] <wildweathel> Roasted, I don't think that's possible in Unix
[00:37] <sven_oostenbrink> mgmuscari: no, Just did touch /var/cache/debconf/test
[00:37] <arand> wildweathel: Yea, it pops back up when the toolchain goes up...
[00:37] <mgmuscari> sven_oostenbrink: perhaps the config script su's to the application's user or something and it doesn't have rw access on the file...
[00:37] <sebsebseb> arand: as far as I know lucid does not even exist yet,  well it might exist just about, but in that case it will be very similar to 9.10
[00:37] <Roasted> wildweathel - really? Its possible with samba.... I thought it'd be possible with linux too.
[00:37] <actionjunky> QUESTION: why can I not save my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[00:37] <wildweathel> c0ld, Jaunty is awesome.
[00:37] <graft> GregD: hmm. lemme look at it
[00:37] <iWolf> actionjunky: What editor are you using?
[00:37] <Anacranom> Roasted, look into "umask"
[00:37] <mgmuscari> sven_oostenbrink: see if you can sudo touch -a the file to update the modified time
[00:37] <sven_oostenbrink> mgmuscari: no... I've had this before, I think.. and there was a way to force it..
[00:37] <SetiAmon> anyone here know how to remove the sound distortions with my xfi xtreme music on karmic?
[00:38] <iWolf> actionjunky: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:38] <wildweathel> actionjunk, it's locked readonly, you have to edit it as root.  Care to say why you're trying to change it?  X should "just work."
[00:38] <arand> sebsebseb: I know, but I also panic at the thought of missing out on some juicy early breakage ;)
[00:38] <excess^> Ive got an issue, maybe I have the wrong flash codec, but I can't see any of the videos on ESPN.com
[00:38] <actionjunky> iWilf:  I am going into the display setting and changing them and when I try to say it will not let me
[00:38] <iWolf> actionjunky: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:38] <Anacranom> actionjunky, did you open it with gksudo gedit...
[00:38] <Anacranom> or nano
[00:38] <mgmuscari> actionjunky: are you root?
[00:38] <iWolf> Anacranom: No
[00:38] <hanasaki> how do I change my cpu frequency? the gnome applet shows the speed but does nothing when I select a new speed.
[00:38] <actionjunky> yes
[00:38] <iWolf> Anacranom: You need root to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:39] <jacquesdupontd> hey guys who is using cairo-dock ?
[00:39] <Anacranom> ummm when did that change iWolf
[00:39] <wildweathel> SetiAmon, Creative soundcards are kinda funky.  It's possible that no one who's here now knows.  You might have better luck in the hardware forum.
[00:39] <Anacranom> you dont need root in Ubuntu at all iWolf
[00:39] <actionjunky> I have my login set with root permissions, and it will not let me save the new settings
[00:39] <timClicks> am running 9.10 - my sound devices don't seem to be recognised by pulseaudio anymore
[00:40] <sebsebseb> arand: ok
[00:40] <octal> anybody having problems with karmic destroying partitions?
[00:40] <SetiAmon> I had no problem with xfi in jaunty.but when upgrading to karmic i am experienceing all these issues
[00:40] <iWolf> Anacranom: You need sudo
[00:40] <iWolf> Anacranom: Atleast you NEED to use it
[00:40] <SetiAmon> there was two people here who managed to get xfi working perfectly they said. scriptd and aaron_C or something like that
[00:40] <Anacranom> thats what i said iWolf
[00:40] <iWolf> Anacranom: Root/Sudo
[00:40] <sven_oostenbrink> mgmuscari: got the solution.. top showed me a process "whiptail" taking 99% CPU... A kill on that process fixed all
[00:40] <iWolf> su -
[00:40] <iWolf> sudo
[00:40] <hanasaki> how do I allow this?
[00:40] <hanasaki> Failed to acquire org.gnome.CPUFreqSelector: Connection ":1.148" is not allowed to own the service "org.gnome.CPUFreqSelector" due to security policies in the configuration file
[00:41] <mgmuscari> sven_oostenbrink: well ok, haha
[00:41] <Anacranom> !sudo | iWolf
[00:41] <excess^> Ive got an issue, maybe I have the wrong flash codec, but I can't see any of the videos on ESPN.com, im on 9.10
[00:41] <jacquesdupontd> hey guys who is using cairo-dock ?
[00:41] <stiv2k> Hi, how can I find and delete old/uneccesary files on my system? I need to free up some space to be able to upgrade to the newest release
[00:41] <actionjunky> I can open a root term window and edit it but I am not sure what I need to change to set my screen res from the default to something different
[00:41] <iWolf> Anacranom: Exactly, root = sudo
[00:42] <iWolf> I said edit using root
[00:42] <jacquesdupontd> hey guys who is using cairo-dock ?
[00:42] <sven_oostenbrink> mgmuscari: whiptail is the TUI interface where it was waiting for user input when the SSH connection broke..
[00:42] <KitsuneDragon> awn
[00:42] <wildweathel> actionjunky, have you tried System -> Prefs -> Display ?
[00:42] <mgmuscari> sven_oostenbrink: ah...
[00:42] <mgmuscari> awn here
[00:42] <Anacranom> !root
[00:42] <jacquesdupontd> could someone answer me i can't believe nobody here listening is not using cairo-dock
[00:43] <toastedmilk> I was trying to upgrade my kernel from 8.04 to 8.10 and someone shut off my computer.  When I rebooted it said I had over 1000 updates.  I installed some 200 of them available, and then restarted.  Now it drops to BusyBox v1.10.2 (initramfs).  Any ideas?
[00:43] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: i think a lot of people are using Avant Window Navigator...
[00:43] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, seems it takes more performances
[00:43] <tophu> is there a way to make an app launcher on the upper panel to simulate a keypress? I want to to <Super>e so I can go to expose mode in compiz while I'm in table mode
[00:43] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, cause on ati card open gl is not working good
[00:44] <tophu> yea awn is pimp
[00:44] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, ati with all opengl dock has problem
[00:44] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: what driver are you using for your card
[00:44] <graft> GregD: still around?
[00:44] <actionjunky> I went to system,pref, display to change it and when I goto save it I get an error saying it can not over write it
[00:44] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: i'm running an ATI FireGL v5700 and i have compiz + awn working very well
[00:44] <soreau> tophu: You can use dbus. And compiz has no expose, it's called Expo
[00:44] <wildweathel> toastedmilk, 8.04 to 8.10?  Wow.  It sounds like apt is confused.  Do you have the computer in question available?
[00:44] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, the brand new catalyst 9.10
[00:44] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: using fglrx... it's not perfect, but it works...
[00:44] <borisstrajnar> i have ubuntu 9.04 installed in windows 7...works superb:) Will upgrading go without troubles? I do not want to mess the grub on sturtup and to loose my win7.
[00:45] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: are you sure it's actually using the ati drivers, and not the open source ati driver?
[00:45] <GregD> Graft: I'm here
[00:45] <actionjunky> I am on it now
[00:45] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, yeah, I do.  But it's not connected to the net because this shitty windows is.  However, I can run whatever you need me to to get info.  I've tried reinstalling with aptitude but it says I have to repair manually.
[00:45] <TechnoIsDead> Hey I'm having some monitor trouble on Jaunty dealing with screen resolution can someone help out?
[00:46] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, hmm please :) i really know ubuntu a lot and all the drivers problem
[00:46] <graft> GregD: okay, any experience with a shell at all?
[00:46] <wildweathel> toastedmilk, Okay, let's start it up.
[00:46] <VCoolio> tophu: check xautomation
[00:46] <GregD> Graft: sorry, but no
[00:46] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, yes i'm using it the best way and i even managed to make the vertical sync problem acceptable
[00:46] <graft> GregD: dangit. know how to start one, anyway?
[00:46] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, but it's still an ati :)
[00:46] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: like i said, no problems with fglrx, compiz, and awn here, using all kinds of effects. only thing i don't have working is DRI2
[00:46] <graft> GregD: ever used MSDOS or something like that?
[00:46] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: how old is your card?
[00:46] <GregD> graft: do you mean a terminal session?
[00:47] <graft> GregD: yeah
[00:47] <sebsebseb> MrSchmo: have a look at the release notes for 9.10 your issue well
[00:47] <GregD> graft: I'm familiar with os x if that helps
[00:47] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: also, ati isn't "bad" hardware, they just don't have great linux drivers :p
[00:47] <GregD> graft: yes I can do that
[00:47] <sebsebseb> !notes |  MrSchmo
[00:47] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, ~$
[00:47] <graft> GregD: ah, okay cool. well, download this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mt-daapd/files/mt-daapd/0.2.4.2/mt-daapd-0.2.4.2.tar.gz/download
[00:48] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, i have no problem at all with compiz everything working perfectly except this dock when used with opengl settings the thing is transparency is wokring perfectly but it puts shadow around blank or non existing border of a window do you understand ?
[00:48] <GregD> graft: will do
[00:48] <Halitech> mgmuscari, actually, the software they have is very good, just doesn't support all the cards that we need supported :)
[00:48] <tophu> VCoolio: thanks I'll try it
[00:48] <Mercury> Hrm, just updated to 9.10, and now when things like my terminal beep it's playing a sound through the speakers attached to the audio out, instead of using the pc speaker.
[00:48] <wildweathel> toastedmilk, lol.  Okay, let's "cd /etc/apt" then "less sources.lst"
[00:48] <graft> GregD: oh wait, never mind, consarnit. it's in the repository...
[00:48] <graft> GregD: sudo apt-get install mt-daapd
[00:48] <Mercury> Anyone know offhand how I can turn that back to a proper beep? :)
[00:48] <Dagless> anyone know how to set double finger tap back to middle click instead of a right click?
[00:48] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, i told you ati is really bad hardware cause even on windows i can see for the same price the difference of 3d texture and way to work with nvidia
[00:48] <Dagless> 9.10 changed it :/
[00:49] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: i see absolutely nothing wrong with ati's hardware
[00:49] <wildweathel> toastedmilk, let me think, what was that... Intrepid, right?
[00:49] <VCoolio> tophu: install xautomation and then use << xte 'keydown Super_L' 'key e' 'keyup Super_L' >>
[00:49] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, yup
[00:49] <Mel_Gibson> guys should i upgrade to 9.10
[00:49] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, it's not that it's wrong its like loving a way to paint or another way
[00:49] <Mel_Gibson> or should i wait for 10.XX
[00:49] <maxxou> bonsoir tous le monde
[00:49] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, ...no such file or directory
[00:49] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, i don't like how they paint 3d
[00:49] <wildweathel> toastedmilk,  On the cd or less?
[00:49] <Mercury> Mel_Gibson: Is this a big server currently sitting on 8.04.1?
[00:50] <Halitech> jacquesdupontd, mgmuscari I've used 3 different ati cards since changing to linux and they work great with the ati drivers
[00:50] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, nvidia seems more smoothy and roundy for me
[00:50] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, less sources.lst
[00:50] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: err... are you referring to their methods for antialiasing or something?
[00:50] <wildweathel> toastedmilk, sources.list
[00:50] <zealiod> How can i get my linux box to accept all VLAN traffic coming in on it's LAN port?
[00:50] <wildweathel> got my apt and grub crossed...
[00:50] <jacquesdupontd> Halitech, yes it's working pretty good except that virtual sync thing that we can fix hardly
[00:50] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, whatre you looking for?
[00:50] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: ok, in my professional opinion, there is nothing inherently better about nvidia's architecture than ati's, but people sit around debating these fine points for hours upon hours. i also don't believe in audiophile-grade speaker cable :p
[00:51] <tophu> VCoolio: worked perfect thanks
[00:51] <mgmuscari> Halitech: i agree with you... as soon as fglrx gets vsync and DRI2 working well, i'll be happy as a clam
[00:51] <tophu> this is why I love linux friendly helpfull community
[00:51] <Dagless> anyone know about the touchpad options? Is there some sort of config file?
[00:51] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, for example but even when you look at options of how they see 3d i don't know i see the difference between a xbox and a ps3 you understand they don't reproduce 3d the same as nvidia and i prefer nvidia
[00:51] <wildweathel> toastedmilk, go ahead and pastebin it, actually.
[00:52] <Halitech> jacquesdupontd, guess I'm not a perfectionist but I see nothing wrong with the way my screen looks :)
[00:52] <GregD> graft: downloading...
[00:52] <wildweathel> Ah, no, stupid
[00:52] <wildweathel> toastedmilk, Nevermind.  Do they say "intrepid"
[00:52] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, no, they say jaunty
[00:52] <jacquesdupontd> Halitech, wee see it more in games but for me it's too clean and to clear in a sort of way
[00:52] <Razaroth> Hi. I have a question when someone has a moment.
[00:52] <wildweathel> toastedmilk, Well, there's you're first thing.  It's trying to upgrade to jaunty now.
[00:52] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, that's what I figured, but I don't know how to fix it
[00:53] <Halitech> mgmuscari, I just popped a new HD4350 in I love it after figuring out how to stop it from going 1600x1200 which my lcd doesn't support
[00:53] <Scunizi> Razaroth: just ask.. nobody is going to pause.. there are 1500+ people here.
[00:53] <jacquesdupontd> Halitech, well Everyobody already had problem with shadow of windows that doesn't exist in Opengl ?
[00:53] <wildweathel> Which is gonna be an issue if you change it to intrepid now.  'cuz downgrades they don't work so well.  Can you live with Jaunty instead?
[00:53] <actionjunky> QUESTION: Unable to create new X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'.
[00:53] <Halitech> jacquesdupontd, I'm not a gamer so not aware of any issues that way
[00:53] <Halitech> actionjunky, did you do it as sudo?
[00:53] <Razaroth> Yes sir. Was wondering, as a lifelong user of Windows, how hard the transition to Linux would be, if i would enjoy it, and if it would be a fun experiment.
[00:53] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: i disagree... 4 years of education in computer engineering and computer science tell me that there isn't that much of a fundamental difference in hardware architecture... raster graphics are raster graphics no matter which way you render them. certain programs may exploit different chipset architectures in different ways, but that's all software dependent
[00:53] <GregD> graft: it is installing right now
[00:53] <wildweathel> Razaroth, the best way to do it is get Wubi.
[00:53] <graft> GregD: from the repos?
[00:53] <Razaroth> I know a decent amount about computers, and was just wondering what i could look for.
[00:53] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, yeah, that's what I was trying to do was upgrade.  But my brother brought some stupid wench home and she shut down my computer mid-upgrade
[00:54] <jacquesdupontd> Halitech, managed to fix everything Do you understand the thing with the shadow of border that doesn't exist on opengl application ?
[00:54] <Scunizi> actionjunky: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup should work.. ie.. use "sudo"
[00:54] <jStefan> Ubuntu is keeping my network card on and permanently active (blinking) after shutdown. I would like my network card to be completely off after shutdown. My other OS leaves my nic off, and i don't remember having the blinking problem when i had 9.04. This is a clean install of 9.10.
[00:54] <Razaroth> Could i get a sentence long explanation of Wubi? Is it a form of linux?
[00:54] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, and now my kernel is broken
[00:54] <jacquesdupontd> that's easy what i'm asking stop comparing ati
[00:54] <Halitech> jacquesdupontd, have to say that no, I'm not quite sure
[00:54] <jacquesdupontd> just want to solve this*
[00:54] <jacquesdupontd> try cairo-dock by the way it's a good dock
[00:54] <mgmuscari> Razaroth: wubi is the ubuntu installer for windows and allows you to use ubuntu in a virtualized environment from within windows
[00:54] <jacquesdupontd> Halitech, and try the opengl executable and check if it's working good
[00:54] <wildweathel> toastedmilk,  Sucks.  The only now is whether you want to end up with Jaunty, or fresh-install Intrepid.
[00:55] <jacquesdupontd> Halitech, you'l see what i'm talking about
[00:55] <mlourenco> installing "samba" has installation errors in 9.10....any fix yet?
[00:55] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: what ati card are you running?
[00:55] <Scunizi> Razaroth: it's a form of virtual machines.. like www.vmware.com, www.virtualbox.org etc.. it creates one file that acts like a totally seperate install of an os
[00:55] <GregD> graft: I guess so...according to the terminal it is installed
[00:55] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, I want Jaunty, but I don't want to lose my files(read: music)
[00:55] <wildweathel> mgmuscari, Razaroth, Actually, Wubi installs a dual-boot, if I understand correctly.  In any case, it's easy to set up and get rid of if you don't like it.
[00:55] <Razaroth> ah, okay. Ive used virtualbox before, on a brother's computer. Thank you very much. I would love to start using ubuntu, and i think ill hang around.
[00:55] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: fyi i have absolutely no problems with shadows on windows or anything else using an ATi FireGL v5700 (radeon hd3650), fglrx, and AWN
[00:55] <TechnoIsDead> Hey, I have a Dell 20 inch monitor on 9.04 and it detects it as a 1600x900 screen resolution as it should, Only problem is that it seems to be unaligned and to the right of the screen is about half an inch of black space down the side, can someone help?
[00:56] <Scunizi> Razaroth: if you're looking to try ubuntu use virtualbox.. you're use to it and it works great
[00:56] <graft> GregD: cool. you'll probably have to munge around with /etc/mt-daapd.conf
[00:56] <wildweathel> toastedmilk, you said your kernel is broken?  What makes you think that?
[00:56] <Razaroth> Also, one more noob question. Is the driver installation as impossible in ubuntu as it is in Windows?
[00:56] <mgmuscari> wildweathel: you can also run ubuntu virtualized inside windows IIRC. or maybe not, i dunno, never used it
[00:56] <Razaroth> Thank you for the advice, Scunizi.
[00:56] <borisstrajnar> Is it any danger with upgrading wubi installed (virtualized environment from within windows) Ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10?
[00:56] <GregD> graft: thank you very much
[00:56] <wildweathel> Razaroth, drivers are awesome-easy.
[00:56] <jStefan> mlourenco, i have samba installed, i didn't see any errors?
[00:56] <wildweathel> Provided they exist.
[00:56] <Scunizi> Razaroth:  you'll find most things "just work".. there are exceptions..
[00:56] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, I can't run gnome, or run apt-get update from the command line
[00:57] <Razaroth> Very great to hear. I'm looking forward to this more and more. What i meant was simple things like video cards etc, but it seems my questions were answered. Thank you very much.
[00:57] <mdg> toastedmilk: why?
[00:57] <mlourenco> jStefan, it's samba the server not client
[00:57] <Razaroth> Also, what does an average installtion of Ubuntu take up? 5-10 gigs?
[00:57] <wildweathel> toastedmilk, Try apt-get upgrade now.
[00:57] <Scunizi> Razaroth: that's why there are many volunteers here.. to get and give advice.
[00:57] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, when I boot it drops to BusyBox v.1.10.2 and the prompt says (initramfs) ,and it doesn't recognize my keyboard
[00:57] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, alright
[00:57] <jStefan> mlourenco, yes i have the samba daemon running and sharing with my other PCs.
[00:57] <wildweathel> toastedmilk, Oops, won't work from initramfs.
[00:57] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, please don't ty to talk about something else try cairo-dock it takes 2 minutes and the opengl executable you'll see im' not alone to have the problem you can see it on forums
[00:57] <toastedmilk> mdg, wtf you mean why?  it doesn't work that's why
[00:58] <stiv2k> hi
[00:58] <stiv2k> i am trying to free up some space on my filesystem
[00:58] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, nah, i loaded an old kernel image from the grub boot loader, so i can run an actual shell
[00:58] <stiv2k> to upgrade my server to the next distro
[00:58] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, hold on.
[00:58] <stiv2k> what can i do in apt to remove some unused packages?
[00:58] <mlourenco> jStefan, I get an error during installation
[00:58] <mdg> toastedmilk: sorry, just got here - missed the history
[00:58] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: i've tried it before, didn't like it, installed awn. guess i can't help because i really don't want to uninstall the dock i'm comfortable with
[00:58] <jacquesdupontd> ILL show you BOTH
[00:58] <Razaroth> Thank you everyone. I will sit around and listen to learn some more :D
[00:58] <VCoolio> stiv2k: apt-get autoremove
[00:58] <Halitech> stiv2k, sudo apt-get clean
[00:58] <wildweathel> toastedmilk, Okay, that makes sense.  You're booted the old kernel?  Go ahead and try it then.
[00:59] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe  run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[00:59] <jStefan> mlourenco, what is the error? can you pastebin it?
[00:59] <cntryboy> I have a virus on windows visita and I have linux on an external drive. I can't access vista at all because of a blue screen. what is a good virus scanner for linux I can use to scan vista
[00:59] <wildweathel> toastedmilk, At this point you need Internet access.
[00:59] <mgmuscari> i should say unconfigure the dock i'm comfortable with and configure something else. want my /home to be relatively clean when i install 9.10 later
[00:59] <Scunizi> just got done with the upgrade to 9.10 .. rebooting in 3... 2.....1.....
[00:59] <stiv2k> VCoolio: Halitech: what about aptitude?
[00:59] <wildweathel> toastedmilk, argh.  But you should run apt-get update then apt-get upgrade.
[00:59] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, and all above that I have a bunch of "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com...." "could not resolve (url)"
[00:59] <jacquesdupontd> http://front1.monsterup.com/up.php
[00:59] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, well, the thing is, it did this before too
[00:59] <jacquesdupontd> look you gonna understand
[01:00] <Halitech> stiv2k, apt, aptitude, dpkg, all do the same thing
[01:00] <mgmuscari> bad link
[01:00] <crink> cntryboy: clamav
[01:00] <VCoolio> stiv2k: no use, aptitude automatically removes dependencies for packages you uninstalled, so no 'trash' left
[01:00] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, I haven't changed anything yet, so why should it do anything different from before?
[01:00] <crink> http://www.clamav.net/
[01:00] <rmxz> With Ubuntu 9.10 how can I select which users will show up in the GDM login screen?    With 9.04 I could select them so only the most common users would show up; but with 9.10 they're all showing up and the tool to select the list has either moved or is gone.
[01:00] <cntryboy> thx
[01:00] <i-pink> hii all
[01:00] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, however I'll run it and be right back if you think that's the best course of action
[01:00] <crink> np
[01:01] <Razaroth> Does UBUNTU work well when installed to a PS3? Currently i was using Yellow Dog, But i was also considering switching.
[01:01] <i-pink> tux not work on OSS!!
[01:01] <wildweathel> toastedmilk,  Ah, good point. I'm trying to think of why apt-get update is failing, though.  I don't really know.
[01:01] <stiv2k> iB  hpijs-ppds                                        - HP Linux Printing and Imaging - HPIJS PPD files
[01:01] <stiv2k> what does the B mean here
[01:01] <i-pink> Tux Racer not work on oss
[01:01] <wildweathel> Razaroth, it's not official, but it might.
[01:01] <jStefan> mlourenco, i installed the server via the "ubuntu software center" searching for samba, which found package system-config-samba. Then i just created a share. it was pretty transparent for me.
[01:01] <i-pink> what to do?
[01:01] <Halitech> wildweathel, can you ping any websites?
[01:01] <wildweathel> Yes, why?
[01:01] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, That's what I thought.  So I went into aptitude, and tried to reinstall things like linux-generic and such.  It said it couldn't do it and that I should try to fix the packages manually
[01:01] <i-pink> what to do?
[01:01] <i-pink> Tux Racer not work on oss
[01:01] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, but I have no idea how to use dpkg
[01:02] <i-pink> Tux Racer not work on oss i cant get audio
[01:02] <wildweathel> toastedmilk, try for a clean apt-get update before you do anything else.
[01:02] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, alright, I'll try it, and be back  with results.
[01:02] <Razaroth> Also, final question: Ubuntu has no problems with running on a netbook format, correct? I'm assuming its a lot easier than a new installation of windows.
[01:02] <Halitech> wildweathel, just noticed you aren't the one having trouble updating, that question should have been for toastedmilk
[01:03] <mgmuscari> Razaroth: try the netbook remix
[01:03] <jStefan> Ubuntu 9.10 is keeping my network card on and permanently active (blinking) after shutdown. I would like my network card to be completely off after shutdown. My other OS leaves my nic off, and i don't remember having the blinking problem when i had 9.04. This is a clean install.
[01:03] <Razaroth> Can the UBUNTU netbook remix be installed through a USB drive?
[01:03] <jacquesdupontd> HAVE you SEEN ?
[01:03] <JohnL> yes Razaroth, that's the idea
[01:03] <jacquesdupontd> http://front1.monsterup.com/up.php
[01:03] <Razaroth> Thank you very much.
[01:03] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari,
[01:03] <JohnL> there's a page about it
[01:03] <toastedmilk> Halitech, give me a ping, coz I tried "http://security.ubuntu.com" and it said it was an invalid host
[01:03] <wgrant> jacquesdupontd: Why do you keep pointing out that URL?
[01:03] <toastedmilk> Halitech, but I'll be right back
[01:03] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: that's a bad link
[01:04] <wildweathel> toastedmilk, wait!
[01:04] <i-pink> Tux Racer not work on oss i cant get audio
[01:04] <i-pink> Tux Racer not work on oss i cant get audio
[01:04] <Halitech> toastedmilk, ping google.com
[01:04] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, yo.
[01:04] <wgrant> !repeat | i-pink
[01:04] <toastedmilk> Halitech, rofl, why didn't i think of that
[01:04] <wildweathel> toastedmilk, you don't have network access, then.
 what to do?
[01:04] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, so......WTF
[01:04] <Halitech> toastedmilk, if that fails, try ping 74.125.67.100
[01:04] <wildweathel> toastedmilk, perhaps because that stupid Networkmanager doesnt...
[01:05] <wildweathel> Hold on a sec, I'm gonna figure out how to auto config networking.
[01:05] <toastedmilk> Halitech, roger that
[01:05] <wildweathel> without networkmanager
[01:05] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, waiting patiently!  Appreciate it!
[01:05] <Halitech> toastedmilk, sudo dhclient ethX .. change X to your nic
[01:05] <mlourenco> jStefan, i posted the error here: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/db3c3e43
[01:06] <beliveyourdream> anyone online ?
[01:06] <Halitech> no
[01:06] <toastedmilk> halitech, written down!
[01:06] <beliveyourdream> does anyone know how can i get my webcam working ? i have a hp dv5-1170el with incorporated webcam
[01:07] <toastedmilk> Halitech, well, wildweathel left.  so i'll brb!
[01:07] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, still waiting?
[01:07] <beliveyourdream> all i can see in lsusb is Bus 002 Device 003: ID 064e:c107 Suyin Corp.
[01:07] <Halitech> beliveyourdream, try cheese and see if its seen
[01:07] <wildweathel> toastedmilk, sstupid dvorak keyboard and ctl-w ctl-v.  Yeah, I think dhclient eth0 will setup networking.
[01:07] <beliveyourdream> i already tried it but all i get is a colored screen
[01:08] <toastedmilk> wildweathel, brb!
[01:08] <toastedmilk> Halitech, brb!
[01:08] <wildweathel> good luck!
[01:08] <jStefan> mlourenco, check /var/log/syslog and the logs on /var/log/samba for any explicit errors
[01:08] <nomic> anyone know why I can only connect one client to an smb server - new install - do you have to tell it there will be more than one client?
[01:08] <beliveyourdream> i remember id did work on ubuntu but looks like now it doesn't anymore
[01:09] <toastedmilk> whoops, left the room with the commands still in it!
[01:09] <TonyTheTiger> right i have ndiswrapper installed but when i do ndiswrapper -l it should nothing at all.
[01:09] <jStefan> Ubuntu is keeping my network card on and permanently active (blinking) after shutdown. I would like my network card to be completely off after shutdown. My other OS leaves my nic off, and i don't remember having the blinking problem when i had 9.04. This is a clean install of 9.10.
[01:10] <TonyTheTiger> what do i do to install the bcm4306?
[01:10] <Dagless> figured out how to make the two finger tap middle click again if anyone is interested..
[01:10] <od3n> anyone know the best way to change permissions on a file that belongs to root
[01:10] <stiv2k> how do i find out what the letters mean next to the packages when I use aptitude search?
[01:10] <hikenboot> hello can anyone point me to usplash how to on creating a custom boot splash...also is there a list of decided features out there for the next version of ubuntu?
[01:10] <souler> I need help flipping my webcam >.< I've been going crazy all around.... the "echo 1 >/sys/class/video4linux/video0/vflip" will not work even though I have everything I need installed.... I think.
[01:10] <nomic> chmod <permissions> filename od3n
[01:10] <Anacranom> TonyTheTiger, have you checked the restricted drivers?
[01:10] <nomic> filename or wildcard
[01:10] <jStefan> od3n, sudo chmod. just be careful which file you are changing permissions on ;)
[01:10] <leaf-sheep> Dagless: Throw out the solution.
[01:10] <joeyeye> od3n, sudo chmod xxx filename
[01:11] <toastedmilk> rofl, brb again
[01:11] <TonyTheTiger> Anacranom no i dont have access to net on the laptop with linux and this machine is windows only.
[01:11] <joeyeye> od3n, sudo chown user group filename
[01:11] <od3n> I want to over write the bookmark.html file in firefox
[01:11] <eswenson> Is this the right channel to ask an ubuntu kernel building question?
[01:11] <lifestream> Hi Im trying to disable <Click+Alt> moves window and <Right Click+Alt> gives menu.  I've disabled it in Keyboard Shortcuts and CCSM. Still nothing. Help!
[01:11] <Anacranom> TonyTheTiger, need to get access to the net so you can update the drivers,,,
[01:12] <TonyTheTiger> Anacranom thats the problem.
[01:12] <TonyTheTiger> ethernet port not working, wifi adapter not working.
[01:12] <leaf-sheep> !kernel | eswenson
[01:12] <FrozEEEn-Solid> i'm trying to enable compiz fusion and i dont see the "desktop effects" option in system -> preferences
[01:13] <jStefan> lifestream, if you are using the advanced desktop effects, try installing the advanced compizconfig settings manager (ccsm)
[01:13] <Xcell> [0_o]
[01:13] <leaf-sheep> FrozEEEn-Solid: System --> Preferences --> Appearances
[01:13] <jbuncher> FrozEEEn-Solid, it's under "appearances"
[01:13] <wildweathel> TonyTheTiger, your ethernet isn't working?  What sort of card is it?  lspci should give its exact name.
[01:13] <Anacranom> TonyTheTiger, plug in a ethernet cable temporarily?, take to a friend's house? something, it wont take long
[01:13] <cellae> So, um, I know it's a longshot that anyone's able to help me here, but I have a Firefox process that has existed as "defunct" through several reinstallations and reboots. I can't kill -9 it, doing a find on firefox returns absolutely nothing
[01:13] <Schmitty> im very impressed with UNR. I'm actually more impressed with UNR than the actuall 9.10 full desktop release
[01:13] <Michael123> **new question** How do I install an irc server on ubuntu server edition
[01:14] <mlourenco> jStefan, on syslog I found: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d5522b65
[01:14] <mgmuscari> cellae: look for it using lsof
[01:14] <lifestream> jStefan, hey, my question stated that I already tried to disable it there
[01:14] <leaf-sheep> Michael123: #ubuntu-server
[01:14] <Anacranom> TonyTheTiger, wait, eth0 not working?
[01:14] <wildweathel> Michael123, I'd start by opening up Synaptic and searching for irc, see what's available.  Then research them.
[01:14] <FrozEEEn-Solid> man it's so weird moving from mandriva to ubuntu - ubuntu feels very watered down as far as settings/configuration ui goes
[01:14] <TonyTheTiger> wildweathel its a broadcom bcm4306 wifi and ethernet controller is bcm5751
[01:14] <wildweathel> Which one are you using?
[01:14] <jStefan> lifestream, sorry miss-read you
[01:14] <eswenson> ubottu: I do need to compile the kernel and make changes to various modules.   I've successfully compiled the kernel and run my recompiled kernel, but need to ask a follow-up question on how to rebuild just the modules I need and not the whole kernel each time I make changes.
[01:14] <lifestream> jStefan, anything else I can try?
[01:15] <TonyTheTiger> Anacranom yes, eth not working.
[01:15] <FrozEEEn-Solid> it's awesome for a linux newbie i guess, but i have no idea where the heck anything is :<
[01:15] <wildweathel> TonyTheTiger, ether is more likely to work.
[01:15] <TonyTheTiger> wildweathel im not sure what you mean which one am i using, i havent specified either but neither have worked.
[01:15] <jStefan> lifestream, i usually disable bindings there by searching with each feature, never had a problem not finding one
[01:15] <jStefan> within*
[01:15] <jbuncher> FrozEEEn-Solid, what can't you find?
[01:16] <wildweathel> TonyTheTiger, well, I think you should try to get the ethernet one working first, since it'll be easier.  Can you plug it in and still stay in chat?
[01:16] <MrSchmo> anyone know what does "AT SPI Registry Wrapper" do? i have many at startup
[01:16] <TonyTheTiger> wildweathel hmm yes i can
[01:16] <lifestream> jStefan, I can find them. I disabled them them there. it keeps doing that
[01:16] <jStefan> mlourenco, try ls -l /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:16] <joeyeye> FrozEEEn-Solid is having trouble finding his ass with both hands
[01:17] <jStefan> lifestream, dont know more :(
[01:17] <lifestream> Aww thanks anyway :(
[01:17] <david1_> upgraded ubuntu 9.04 install that was dual booting with Vista and now boots straight to ubuntu without choice of Vista, any suggestions?
[01:17] <TonyTheTiger> wildweathel its plugged in.
[01:17] <mlourenco> jStefan, says no such file of directory
[01:17] <Anacranom> TonyTheTiger, canyou paste the 2 lines of your lspci that have "network controller" neywork in them, and then do lshw -C network > lshw.txt   and copy that .txt file to a flash drive and paste the file on pastebin?
[01:17] <dale> hey, I was just wondering if it was possible to make public (and browseable) folders with ubuntu one?
[01:17] <stiv2k> how do you find out what the letters stand for next to the package names when using aptitude search????
[01:17] <stiv2k> iB  hpijs-ppds                                        - HP Linux Printing and Imaging - HPIJS PPD files
[01:17] <stiv2k> like that
[01:17] <cellae> mgmuscari: I did find one file that I rm'd, but the process is still there :(
[01:18] <wgrant> dale: I don't believe so, but try #ubuntuone
[01:18] <Halitech> david1_, does the windows partition still show up in sudo fdisk -l ?
[01:18] <TonyTheTiger> Anacranom yes, however is it possible to do a private chat?
[01:18] <binbrain> what am I doing wrong, I'm on hardy, running update-manager -c and its saying that the system is up2date, am I missing something?
[01:18] <wildweathel> TonyTheTiger, but it's not working.  Try running "ifconfig | less" and look for an eth entry.
[01:18] <Stormx2> Hi. Trying to install on a laptop via USB. The USB drive is fine and formatted with usb-creator-gtk. My desktop tower boots it fine, but not this laptop. Boot order in BIOS is fine, and the flag for booting from external drives is set to On. What can I do?
[01:18] <david1_> it still shows in gparted
[01:18] <Anacranom> wildweathel, sorry, didnt see you helping TonyTheTiger ... i'll back off
[01:18] <wildweathel> No, don't worry about it.  Two heads better.
[01:19] <wgrant> Stormx2: Are you sure the laptop can boot from USB Mass Storage Devices? Some can, but are picky as to exactly which devices they like.
[01:19] <Halitech> david1_, try sudo update-grub and see if it updates it for you, 9.10 is using the new grub2
[01:19] <mgmuscari> cellae: zombie firefox process... i seem to remember somebody else complaining about that a week or two ago
[01:19] <dale> wgrant: yeh tried its kinda quiet in there, its weird since thats like one of its major use cases
[01:19] <dale> its why a lot of people use dropbox
[01:19] <cellae> mgmuscari: >< they happen to mention a solution?
[01:19] <krankzinnig> I installed Ubuntu 9.10 clean today from Windows. When it rebooted, I get a GRUB terminal asking for a command. I tried "boot" and it says no kernel is loaded. Please help ><
[01:19] <Anacranom> wildweathel, would it be easier in my channel?
[01:19] <c0ld> anyone with wifi problems
[01:19] <c0ld> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8227292#post8227292
[01:19] <wgrant> dale: Remember that Ubuntu One is still in rather early stages.
[01:19] <jStefan> mlourenco, try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure samba-common, to see if that creates the file. brb i have dinner
[01:19] <c0ld> solution
[01:20] <eswenson> leaf-sheep: did you mean that this is the wrong place or that there is a channel called "kernel"?
[01:20] <jbuncher> david1 Halitech :  his grub shouldn't have been upgraded if he came from Jaunty, it should have kept grub-lecacy.  I wonder if it just changed a default so grub no longer shows the menu you just have have to hit esc at boot to see it?
[01:20] <TonyTheTiger> wildweathel i did what you said, has a block of text eth0 and block of text for lo
[01:20] <dale> true
[01:20] <joeyeye> krankzinnig, are you at the grub prompt now ?
[01:20] <wildweathel> Anacranom, how do I join?  Sorry, still kinda new to IRC.
[01:20] <billiard_junkee> Just a quick question of opinion/experience: Has anyone here had any diffiiculty when upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10, especially concerning the wifi?  I am using a wireless card with the Atheros chipset.
[01:20] <mgmuscari> cellae: i don't recall... sorry
[01:20] <krankzinnig> joeyeye, yes
[01:20] <Stormx2> wgrant: No, i'm not, but "USB Drive" is an option in the boot priorities menu
[01:20] <jbuncher> billiard_junkee, nope, but I'm on an intel 3945
[01:20] <Anacranom> wildweathel, TonyTheTiger  do /join #seaphor
[01:20] <leaf-sheep> eswenson: I only triggered the bot to give you details on kernel.
[01:20] <cellae> mgmuscari: all right, thanks :( I'll just spam my problem every half hour or so til someone can help
[01:20] <Halitech> jbuncher, possible
[01:20] <cellae> in the meantime, sup epiphany
[01:21] <joeyeye> krankzinnig, enter: find /boot/grub/stage1
[01:21] <leaf-sheep> eswenson: You might want to try and ask in #linux
[01:21] <mgmuscari> cellae: haha true. webkit is better anyway
[01:21] <leaf-sheep> eswenson: Or #kernel :0
[01:21] <Cainus> hey all.. can anyone tell me what I need to do to start diagnosing why my ubuntu box keeps rebooting?  what log file should I be looking at?
[01:21] <krankzinnig> unknown command "find"
[01:21] <gutsy> can anyone help me plz? how do i change my mac address permanently?
[01:21] <eswenson> leaf-sheep: I've already read those posts, built the kernel, booted it successfully, but I have a question about the build process and minimal rebuilds.
[01:21] <Halitech> gutsy, change your network card
[01:21] <leaf-sheep> eswenson: There are a channel --> #kernel
[01:22] <david1_> Halitech, that did the trick, MANY Thanks for the quick solution!!!
[01:22] <gutsy> Halitech: lol, there's gotta be another way
[01:22] <crink> eswenson: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Module-HOWTO/
[01:22] <Halitech> david1_, glad it worked for you
[01:22] <billiard_junkee> thanks jbuncher
[01:22] <b0w> krankzinnig: why dont you reinstall it, maybe there was an error during the installation it happen to me...
[01:22] <leaf-sheep> gutsy: MAC Address are assigned by hardware manufacturers.
[01:22] <eswenson> leaf-sheep:  Ok, I'll try #linux and #kernel.  Are these ubuntu/debian-specific, or www.kernel.org-general, because my question is about debian/rules (the ubuntu/debian build process).
[01:22] <krankzinnig> I did twice
[01:22] <jbuncher> gutsy, i know you can do it for intel cards, just need to add a line to /etc/network/interfaces/  should work for all cards as well.  Search wikipedia for "spoof mac address"
[01:22] <user_> is there any different in kernel configurations between ubuntu server and desktop?
[01:22] <joeyeye> krankzinnig, type root<SPACE><TAB>     and tell me what you see
[01:23] <FrozEEEn-Solid> how do i add panels into a  second monitor?
[01:23] <leaf-sheep> eswenson: I do not know the answer. :3
[01:23] <Halitech> gutsy, the MAC address is hardcoded into the card, you can't change it and you are just using software to spoof it so routers and the like think you have a different one, only true way to change it is to change the card
[01:23] <jrib> user_: yes
[01:23] <user_> or is the only difference in packages installed by default?
[01:23] <user_> jrib: what?
[01:23] <user_> err, what differences
[01:23] <leaf-sheep> FrozEEEn-Solid: Create a new panel (Drag to the second monitor).
[01:23] <krankzinnig> Just a new line
[01:23] <samdret> are there any rt2860 drivers for 2.6.31? my wifi on my eee box keeps acting up and the newest i could find would only support 2.6.29
[01:23] <jrib> user_: desktop uses -generic and server uses -server kernels.  Read the package descriptions and debian/rules for differences
[01:23] <FrozEEEn-Solid> leaf-sheep it's not letting me drag it
[01:24] <krankzinnig> joeyeye, just sh:grub>
[01:24] <leaf-sheep> FrozEEEn-Solid: Hold ALT and drag it.
[01:24] <joeyeye> krankzinnig, type root<SPACE>(<TAB>     and tell me what you see
[01:24] <FrozEEEn-Solid> awesome you rock
[01:24] <stiv2k> why does deborphan say cupsys-common in the list?
[01:24] <Aldursil> can someone help me configure networking so I can see windows machines?
[01:25] <krankzinnig> joeyeye: loop0 hd0
[01:25] <tonsofpcs> does anyone have one of the ultratiny USB-connected Bluetooth adapters [the ones that just have a little plastic arc on back of the connector] working in ubuntu?  if so, what make/model is it?
[01:25] <jbuncher> Aldursil, You'll need to set up samba.
[01:25] <Mallen_> Hey, im looking for a GUI based program like Dev C++, but for linux (ubuntu). Anyone know any good ones, basic linux and C knowledge.
[01:25] <joeyeye> krankzinnig, type root<SPACE>hd(0,<TAB>     and tell me what you see
[01:25] <CitizenLane> could you flash the firmware to change the mac address or is it literally hard coded and can't be changed?
[01:25] <gutsy> leaf-sheep: i know that, but i have one of my system (ipod touch) registered with a wifi network and i'm unable to register another because it has linux OS on it and in order to register i need windows and i'm too lazy to install windows just to register my system
[01:25] <Rubia21sexy> hi
[01:25] <wgrant> jbuncher: Not to browse Windows machines.
[01:25] <UnNaturalHigh> has anyone here had some major issues with grub2?
[01:25] <leaf-sheep> tonsofpcs: Any bluetooth adapters should work.
[01:25] <wgrant> Aldursil: Places->Network->Windows Network doesn't help?
[01:25] <joeyeye> krankzinnig, sorry my bad type root<SPACE>(hd0,<TAB>     and tell me what you see
[01:25] <tonsofpcs> leaf-sheep: I have one here that proves otherwise.
[01:25] <jbuncher> wgrant, won't he at least need the client?
[01:25] <wgrant> jbuncher: The client is installed by default.
[01:25] <mlourenco> jStefan, works! Thanks alot bud.
[01:26] <wgrant> jbuncher: And has been for maaaaany years.
[01:26] <eswenson> leaf-sheep:  thanks.  I'll keep looking.
[01:26] <Rubia21sexy> HI
[01:26] <leaf-sheep> tonsofpcs: What specifically problem?
[01:26] <krankzinnig> missing ')'
[01:26] <UnNaturalHigh> Mallen_, eclipse
[01:26] <leaf-sheep> eswenson: No problem.  Good luck!
[01:26] <Aldursil> wgrant: nope, it fails to retrive share list from server.
[01:26] <jbuncher> wgrant, alrighty.  didn't know it was in by default
[01:26] <grum_> Hi folks, just look for some help with an issue i am having with grub2 not getting past the loading grub stage
[01:26] <tonsofpcs> leaf-sheep: it's a POS and barely works in the OS it has drivers for, yet alone others :)
[01:26] <Mallen_> UnNaturalHigh: Yea, but i can not figure out how to compile and run the program while using eclipse. Lol
[01:26] <wgrant> Aldursil: What if you press Ctrl+L in a file browser and type "smb://someserver/someshare"?
[01:26] <Mallen_> do i need to install a C++ compiler
[01:26] <Ttech> When I start up my computer I get this "FATAL: Error inserting it87 [0x295-0x296] conflicts with ACPI region IP__ [0x295-0x295]" how do I fix it?
[01:27] <UnNaturalHigh> Mallen_, google (the oracle) will help you
[01:27] <Aldursil> wgrant: I can see them with the ip addres, just not by browsing
[01:27] <joeyeye> krankzinnig, sorry my bad type root<SPACE>(hd0,<TAB>     and tell me what you see
[01:27] <Mallen_> aye, been on there for the past hour, turned here when it was failing
[01:27] <samantha21> alguien que hable español ?
[01:27] <krankzinnig> a lot lol
[01:27] <Halitech> !es | samantha21
[01:27] <leaf-sheep> tonsofpcs: The bluetooth adapter? I bought mine off eBay. I plugged it. I installed the bluetooth-related packages and set up for identify/connection. It ran beautifully.
[01:27] <Ttech> samantha21, #ubuntu-es
[01:27] <tonsofpcs> leaf-sheep: yes, the one i have now
[01:28] <jStefan> mlourenco, your welcome
[01:28] <samantha21> Ola
[01:28] <joeyeye> krankzinnig, so far you have 2 devices that may be bootable ... loop0 and hd0
[01:28] <leaf-sheep> tonsofpcs: Sounds same as the one you described -- Tiny arc-thing.  Care to show me the link? I'll confirm if we have the same item.
[01:28] <UnNaturalHigh> Mallen_, do you have build-essential installed?
[01:28] <krankzinnig> Partition hd0,1: Filesystem type ntfs, Label Systen Reserved
[01:28] <grum_> I have tried following this document https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 and repairing grub2 but it stops working after next shutdown, i have also tried removing grub2 and installing grub but grub2 still seems to be installed
[01:28] <krankzinnig> Partition hd0,2: Filesystem type ntfs
[01:28] <Mallen_> UnNaturalHigh: Let me check
[01:28] <usser> leaf-sheep, tonsofpcs the one from dealextreme.com? is that the one you talking about
[01:28] <krankzinnig> joeyeye, I left out the UUID's, need them>
[01:28] <arrrghhh> anyone know about the ffado-mixer-qt4 package?  it's preventing me from updating.
[01:28] <joeyeye> krankzinnig, we're now looking for the partitions on hd0 ...
[01:29] <Ttech> Any idea?
[01:29] <Aldursil> wgrant: using the smb command comes up with the same error.
[01:29] <leaf-sheep> usser: I'm checking my ebay history.
[01:29] <krankzinnig> How do I do that?
[01:29] <joeyeye> krankzinnig, which partition are we going to try to boot from ?
[01:29] <lifestream> Hi Im trying to disable <Click+Alt> moves window and <Right Click+Alt> gives menu.  I've disabled it in Keyboard Shortcuts and compiz-ccsm  but it still happens!
[01:29] <krankzinnig> Not a clue, my non Windows one
[01:29] <usser> leaf-sheep, something like that http://dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11866?
[01:30] <tonsofpcs> leaf-sheep: i don't have a tiny arc thing currently, i have a weird green translucent plasticy thing
[01:30] <Cainus> hey all.. can anyone tell me what I need to do to start diagnosing why my ubuntu box keeps rebooting?  what log file should I be looking at?
[01:30] <usser> leaf-sheep, scratch the "?" at the end of the link
[01:30] <UnNaturalHigh> grum_, grub2 is an epic failure in my opinion, that being said I just uninstalled grub2 about 10 minutes ago with those instructions - it worked great!
[01:30] <gutsy> jbuncher: i have been able to spoof my mac address using the following commands: sudo ifconfig wlan0 down hw ether MACADDRESS and sudo ifconfig wlan0 up but i want it to be permanent so i don't need to run the commands each time i connect to this network
[01:30] <joeyeye> krankzinnig, which is it ? partition 0 or 1 ?
[01:30] <tonsofpcs> Cainus: all of them. sstart with syslog.
[01:30] <Halitech> Cainus, have you checked your ram by using memtest from a live cd?
[01:30] <tonsofpcs> [and messages]
[01:30] <Mallen_> UnNaturalHigh: Could not locate, build-ess, in package man
[01:30] <Cainus> Halitech: naw it's a VPS
[01:30] <Zeus2> how would i go about setting .exe files to be executed by wine when i double click them?
[01:30] <UnNaturalHigh> Mallen_, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:30] <krankzinnig> I think 1, if it goes in order of which is installed
[01:30] <Zeus2> right now archive manager tries to open it when i double click
[01:31] <leaf-sheep> tonsofpcs: I have that item. :)
[01:31] <tonsofpcs> leaf-sheep: hmm?
[01:31] <leaf-sheep> tonsofpcs: Well -- What problem are you having exactly?
[01:31] <leaf-sheep> usser: I have that item.
[01:31] <joeyeye> krankzinnig, where do you think ubuntu is installed ? /dev/sd1 or /dev/sda2 ?
[01:31] <Mallen_> UnNaturalHigh: Installing
[01:31] <usser> Zeus2, right click on the file, open with-> custom application type wine, put a checkbox on do this from now on
[01:31] <joeyeye> krankzinnig, where do you think ubuntu is installed ? /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2 ?
[01:31] <leaf-sheep> tonsofpcs: You have a different adapter then.  What problem?
[01:31] <usser> leaf-sheep, it works great, for 2$ bucks :)
[01:32] <jbuncher> gutsy, did you try finding that wikipedia entry?  I used it at one point to edit the /etc/interfaces or /etc/network/interfaces file.  It also looks like you can right-click on the network-manager applet and go to "edit connections" and just edit the MAC address in there.
[01:32] <Cainus> tonsofpcs: I see:        Nov  2 06:25:16 ubuntu syslogd 1.5.0#1ubuntu1: restart.
[01:32] <krankzinnig> To guess, I would say 2
[01:32] <leaf-sheep> usser: And it is concel
[01:32] <tonsofpcs> Cainus: and above that?
[01:32] <leaf-sheep> usser: And it is concealable*  -- Great! :0
[01:32] <grum_> UnNaturalHigh: anything special to uninstall grib2 and install grub? does grub need to be on the mbr of the first hard drive?
[01:32] <Mallen_> UnNaturalHigh: Installed, going to retry compiling, unless there is another stip
[01:32] <Mallen_> step*
[01:32] <tonsofpcs> leaf-sheep: it refuses to pair with a lot of things
[01:32] <Cainus> tonsofpcs: nothing.. .that's the top line
[01:32] <ptarrant> HELP - so i installed a fresh (clean) copy of 9.10 and have no sound on my asus p5pkl-cm, any clues? worked fine on 9.04
[01:32] <tonsofpcs> Cainus: check syslog.0, .1,.2, ...?
[01:33] <shine1> hi everyone~
[01:33] <Zeus2> i have an Open with Other Application... but when I use that, there is no check box to do this from now on
[01:33] <eper3z> guys how can i change the permissions on the encyrpted looking drive? http://pastebin.com/m7864de95
[01:33] <Zeus2> any ideas?
[01:33] <tonsofpcs> after coaxing it to pair with something, it will fail on PINing, I've gotten it past that point once and then it took my system down when i tried doing the second file transfer [first worked, oddly].
[01:33] <leaf-sheep> tonsofpcs: I have bluetooth, gnome-bluetooth, libbluetooth3, libgnome-bluetooth7-dev  ---- That's all relating to bluetooth.
[01:33] <leaf-sheep> tonsofpcs: Is those packages installed for you as well?
[01:33] <UnNaturalHigh> grum_, I followed the instructions on the page exactly as is
[01:34] <user_> * The timer interrupt is 100 Hz in the Server Edition and 250 Hz in the Desktop Edition. <-- what's the difference?
[01:34] <tonsofpcs> leaf-sheep: it's a hardware issue, not a software issue.  It performs the same in Windows most of the time as well, which is why I was asking for confirmed working hardware
[01:34] <user_> err, what kind of difference would that make
[01:34] <gutsy> jbuncher: thanks
[01:34] <samantha21> hi
[01:34] <leaf-sheep> tonsofpcs: I see. I suppose you could purchase a different bluetooth adapter -- Like the one that usser and I am currently using.  No issues at all!
[01:35] <tonsofpcs> leaf-sheep: right, that's why I was asking for a model that works :)
[01:35] <ptarrant> any takers on no sound on 9.10 (fresh install)?
[01:35] <shine1> when I tried to install r-base on ubuntu 9.10, it says "Media change: please insert the disc labeled  'Ubuntu 9.10 _Karmic Koala_ - Release i386 (20091028.5)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter", anyone know how can I get around this? my laptop does not have a cdrom...
[01:35] <joeyeye> krankzinnig, ok so type root (hd0,2) then type kernel /boot/vmlinuz<TAB>
[01:35] <Cainus> tonsofpcs: syslog.0 starts with a 6:30 restart on the previous day...
[01:35] <leaf-sheep> tonsofpcs: >:}~
[01:35] <UnNaturalHigh> Mallen_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingCompilers
[01:35] <tonsofpcs> Cainus: and ends with?
[01:35] <Blank__> shine1, you'll have to cancel and remove the cdrom as a source for apt
[01:35] <Mallen_> UnNaturalHigh: THank you!
[01:35] <Cainus> tonsofpcs... oh good question
[01:35] <usser> tonsofpcs, http://dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11866 this one works
[01:35] <Aldursil> anyone know why I can see a windows machine with an ip address but not when I try and browse the network with Nautilus?
[01:35] <UnNaturalHigh> Mallen_, np!
[01:36] <grum_> mm i might try deleting the whole grub directory and reinstalling grub, failing that reinstalling 9.04
[01:36] <emma> Aldursil, maybe it hasn't been mounted?
[01:36] <slimindiej> ptarrant, my sound worked ok but the proprietary broadcom drivers wouldn't install properly for my wifi card
[01:36] <krankzinnig> joeyeye, the second line does nothing when I press tab
[01:36] <shine1> Blanks_, thanks for help, I am pretty new to ubuntu, could you give me a more detailed instruction? Thanks a lot~
[01:36] <ptarrant> Aldursil, most likely its a DNS issue, you can try installing bind9 on your machine
[01:36] <joeyeye> krankzinnig,
[01:36] <Cainus> tonsofpcs: a daily cron :\  could I have a daily reboot in my cron?  how could that get in there?
[01:36] <Halitech> Aldursil, nautilus had a bug regarding that, maybe they haven't fixed it yet
[01:36] <emma> Aldursil, ahh sorry i misread your question actually
[01:37] <ptarrant> slimindiej, all my hardware is working fine, and sound worked fine in Jaunty, but 9.10 is a no go (after 2 installs)
[01:37] <grum_> grub2 is a pos
[01:37] <krankzinnig> joeyeye, ?
[01:37] <Aldursil> hm, that would suck. heh
[01:37] <joeyeye> krankzinnig, ok so reset back to: root (hd0,1)<ENTER> then kernel /boot/vmlinuz<TAB>      we're trying to find your partition and kernel
[01:37] <ptarrant> grum_: i agree
[01:37] <slimindiej> ptarrant: same here for my wifi card in jaunty. i actually had to reinstall jaunty and upgrade to get it working again, the fresh install wouldn't work.
[01:38] <vis> hi there
[01:38] <slimindiej> ptarrant: desktop, server, or unr?
[01:38] <ptarrant> slimindiej, i tried an upgrade and it crapped out, hence why i did a fresh install
[01:38] <ptarrant> desktop
[01:38] <turbogp20> Hi, anyone is having any trouble with ubuntuone?, I'm struggling to sync my files. I'm behind a firewall, maybe I need to open some ports... can anyone tell me... thanks...
[01:38] <Ttech> When I start up my computer I get this "FATAL: Error inserting it87 [0x295-0x296] conflicts with ACPI region IP__ [0x295-0x295]" how do I fix it?
[01:38] <mstrzele> hi all
[01:38] <krankzinnig> joeyeye, once again it does nothing when I press tab :/
[01:39] <Razaroth> Ubuntu can be added to a windows boot up, correct? (For instance, you can do a tri boot between XP, Vista, and Ubuntu)?
[01:39] <slimindiej> ptarrant: yikes
[01:39] <ptarrant> slimindiej,  yea
[01:39] <Halitech> Razaroth, yes
[01:39] <joeyeye> krankzinnig, ok do same but with root (hd0,0) first
[01:39] <Razaroth> Thank you halitech.
[01:39] <grum_> oh well cheers anyway
[01:39] <ptarrant> slimindiej, here i thought i was getting pretty good at troubleshooting ubuntu...
[01:39] <vis> I was wondering if someone might help me out - I'm trying to set up a user account which boots into a CLI without X. I've tried googling and searching through the net but the discussions im finding assume that I already have a cli environment set up. Can anyone help, or point me towards some reference material?
[01:39] <Blue1> what causes linux to do this?  http://www.pkill-9.com/wayno/pics/linux_9.10_weird.png
[01:39] <krankzinnig> joeyeye, says no such partition...
[01:39] <scarby> hi mstrzele
[01:39] <slimindiej> ptarrant: i had better luck with updating after the 9.10 final came out than i did with the beta or the rc for what it's worth
[01:39] <joeyeye> krankzinnig, what is the loop0 device ?
[01:40] <Ttech> vis, I'm not sure if you can do autologin via the term
[01:40] <Ttech> cli
[01:40] <slimindiej> ptarrant: at some point i attribute problems to linux voodoo
[01:40] <mzawieska> hello guys
[01:40] <pleed> Hi, i ve got an x64 machine and i d like to emulate other architectures. What is a good software to do that? i think virtualbox cant
[01:40] <ptarrant> slimindiej, LOL yea seems like that don't it ;)
[01:40] <vis> Ttech: Would I need to disable the graphical boot?
[01:40] <scarby> hi mzawieska
[01:40] <Aldursil> ptarrant: do I need to do anything after installing bind9 to see if that fixed it?
[01:40] <Snump> Good, another Phillies fan.  ;)
[01:40] <mzawieska> I need program that I will put all my mpeg movie file into one dvd and be able to choose which movie I want to play. Like a Menu?
[01:41] <Ttech> vis, What? the cli does not have any ability to auto login
[01:41] <ptarrant> i guess i'm going to be reinstalling 9.04 then :)
[01:41] <mzawieska> scarby u polish?
[01:41] <Snump> I have a non technical question...
[01:41] <joeyeye> krankzinnig, what is the loop0 device ?
[01:41] <Ttech> vis, what are you trying to do?
[01:41] <Halitech> mzawieska, devede
[01:41] <slimindiej> ptarrant: i know this is an ubuntu-centric channel to mention this in, but have you tried mint?
[01:41] <andy_39_dev> hi all newbie here with a problem with 9.10, are there rule in asking for help?
[01:41] <Ttech> Blue1, Ah, you don't happen ot have a while loop there?
[01:41] <scarby> no, UK
[01:41] <Ttech> andy_39_dev, just ask
[01:41] <shine1> hi Blank_, I got it work, thank you so much for the heads up!!
[01:41] <ptarrant> Aldursil, i have only done this twice, and am no expert but i am pretty sure you have to point all your windows boxes to your ubuntu machine for DNS
[01:41] <joeyeye> krankzinnig, PM me
[01:41] <mzawieska> Halitech I know I am using devede
[01:41] <Blue1> Ttech: nope...
[01:41] <mzawieska> but I converted the avi file into mpeg
[01:41] <ptarrant> Aldursil,  hold on, i'll find the link i found the info at
[01:42] <vis> I don't want auto login - I want either the machine to boot into a CLI, which I can then login to for seperate xsessions for each user, or for X to quit when I login as a particular user :)
[01:42] <Snump> Fromw hat I understand, companies must purchase a license from Microsoft to provide fat and fat32 support.  If that's true, who purchased the license for all the linux distros?  The parent company of the distro?
[01:42] <mzawieska> so once again i can put the mpeg file togather?
[01:42] <Aldursil> ptarrant, thanks
[01:42] <Halitech> mzawieska, it should work with mpeg, divx, avi
[01:42] <ptarrant> slimindiej, in theory it shouldn't mater should it?
[01:42] <mbeierl> anyone know if there is a way of performing the nvidia-settings tweaking of external displays from the command line?
[01:42] <andy_39_dev> ok thanks. installed 9.10 as upgrade on 9.04 and cups seems to cause my hp printer to hang and the cpu to max out at 100%
[01:42] <turbogp20> Does anyone knows wich ports do I need to open to use ubuntuone ?
[01:42] <ptarrant> Aldursil, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto <-- that should help ya
[01:42] <andy_39_dev> printing only gives out about half a page
[01:42] <slimindiej> no, but mint is much less adherent to the "only open source" motto and sometimes has better out-of-box support for devices that require proprietary drivers
[01:42] <Aldursil> ptarrant, thanks, I'll check that out.
[01:42] <Cainus> hey... has anyone else seen this issue with an ubuntu box rebooting daily at 6:25?  I've read about it in a few spots, but can't find the reason
[01:43] <scarby> I've just installed 9.10 from 9.04.... damn, had a few hiccups, but it sure looks good.
[01:43] <ptarrant> Aldursil, np ;)
[01:43] <samantha21> OLa alguien ke hable español
[01:43] <mzawieska> halitech. devede tells me wrong the ration of the avi file that will take the space of the dvd
[01:43] <jbuncher> mbeierl, I think what you want is nvidia-xconfig, though I'm not sure.
[01:43] <Ttech> vis, You can like do GDM and if you want cli ctrl+shift + f2 or such
[01:43] <slimindiej> ptarrant: no, but mint is much less adherent to the "only open source" motto and sometimes has better out-of-box support for devices that require proprietary drivers
[01:43] <Halitech> mzawieska, you can adjust it
[01:43] <Snump> Cainus: I had a set of speakers that only worked after 7:30pm.   They were after dinner speakers.
[01:43] <scarby> I'm drawn towards the KDE desktop though :)
[01:43] <Cainus> heheh
[01:43] <Ttech> vis, But that will take you out of X
[01:43] <mzawieska> hlitech, lets say I am converting the avi file to mpeg and it tells me it uses 87% of the dvd 4.7 gig
[01:43] <mbeierl> jbuncher: I don't want to rewrite the xconfig, I'd like to toggle the external monitor without having to invoke the nvidia-settings gui and clicking a bunch...
[01:43] <ptarrant> slimindiej, didn't need proprietary drivers for 9.04, its just a VIA chipset, the only thing that was giving me issues (driver wise) was my ATI, which is another can of worms LOL as always with ATI and linux
[01:44] <mbeierl> jbuncher: thanks, either way, though
[01:44] <vis> but then X will be running in a seperate terminal, right? I want the option of not having it run at all, if it's possible
[01:44] <syn-ack> Snump, being outside of the scope of this channel, I'm going to say this thtat is untrue since the patent on them expired years ago
[01:44] <slimindiej> ptarrant: oy, yeah i'm surprised the sound is the problem with 9.10
[01:44] <jbuncher> mbeierl, what do you mean by "toggle the external monitor"?
[01:44] <souler> Could some one tell me what do I need to do to save an edited file in linux???? It's not letting me save after adding a code line.
[01:44] <mzawieska> halitech, after creating the mpeg i go to properties it says the file is 2.7gig
[01:44] <Snump> Cainus: I'm not sure what's so magical about 6:25pm.  Maybe a power surge ad somebody turns off machinery in your area?
[01:44] <joeyeye> krankzinnig, I have to go out ... will be back. I think your menu.lst is jacked ... but don't have enough info as yet
[01:44] <mixmix> souler: any error message?
[01:44] <jbuncher> souler, that depends on the editor
[01:44] <andy_39_dev> anyone else seen printing fail totally after installing 9.10..all good in 9.04?
[01:44] <Snump> syn-ack: that's what I thought.  12 years, right?
[01:44] <ptarrant> slimindiej, yep, shocked me, hence why i thought it was a bad install and did another install
[01:44] <souler> it's just a text file.
[01:44] <Ttech> vis, If you don't want x why not go with a server edition?
[01:44] <jrib> souler: how did you open the file?
[01:44] <syn-ack> Snump, 20
[01:44] <souler> Double clicked it.
[01:44] <Ttech> andy_39_dev, /var/log?
[01:45] <Halitech> mzawieska, when you select the file, you can go to advanced and make changes or, once you hace all your files selected, click the button that says auto adjust
[01:45] <jrib> souler: what file?
[01:45] <vis> I'd really like the option of either
[01:45] <Cainus> Snump: but the log files show a restart... I don't know how it would have time to write a log
[01:45] <syn-ack> Snump, at least in the USA
[01:45] <Snump> syn-ack: what about fat32?  or does fat32 fall under fat12/fat13?
[01:45] <souler> asla-base.conf
[01:45] <jrib> !who | souler
[01:45] <mbeierl> jbuncher: turn external monitor on laptop on and off (dual monitor when docked, single when undocked)
[01:45] <jrib> souler: I assume you mean /etc/alsa-base.conf or something?
[01:45] <souler> jrib,  yes
[01:45] <Cainus> snump: a few other people have had the same issue
[01:45] <syn-ack> Snump, its a derivative work
[01:45] <ptarrant> slimindiej, wanna know whats really messed up?
[01:45] <slimindiej> ptarrant: 9.10 release version has been so-so for me in that regard. i'm less impressed than i was with jaunty, though i do appreciate the updates to the unr interface
[01:45] <Snump> Cainus: that's seems very oddball...  Stumped me!
[01:46] <mixmix> !tab
[01:46] <Snump> syn-ack: then what about fat64?  aka: exFAT?
[01:46] <ptarrant> slimindiej, i have the same machine at work, and its running 9.10 fine, sound and all
[01:46] <zMainframe> Hi just wanted to let people now that a Radeon 7000 (RV250) chipset works with copmpiz on karmic if you enable KMS.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1261990  Please look at this post.  It solved my problems
[01:46] <jrib> souler: your user only has permissions to his HOME.  When editing things outside of your HOME, you must use sudo.  For example: gksudo gedit /etc/alsa-base.conf
[01:46] <jrib> !sudo > souler
[01:46] <jbuncher> mbeierl, ah, ok.  I don't know if there's anything like that for nvidia, unless they support the xrandr extensions.  I don't think that works if you've set up the monitors through xinerama though.
[01:46] <slimindiej> ptarrant: that's bizarre
[01:46] <syn-ack> Snadder, probably something completely different
[01:46] <Ttech> When I start up my computer I get this "FATAL: Error inserting it87 [0x295-0x296] conflicts with ACPI region IP__ [0x295-0x295]" how do I fix it?
[01:46] <souler> thanks
[01:46] <souler> both of you.
[01:46] <mzawieska> halitech, ia m tryin to put few mpeg movie files into devede
[01:46] <mbeierl> jbuncher: I've not used xinerama, just the nvidia twinview config
[01:46] <andy_39_dev> which log am i supposed to be looking at? (newbie remember)
[01:46] <ptarrant> slimindiej, think my ATI card having HD audio output could be causing issues?
[01:47] <jbuncher> Ttech, when do you get that error message.
[01:47] <Halitech> mzawieska, shouldn't be any different then putting a bunch of avi files into it
[01:47] <gonzojive> my sound seems to only partially work.   I have posted a bug report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/381297 (see reddaly)
[01:47] <ptarrant> slimindiej, like maybe its getting confused? i manually set which sound output i wanted per pref->sound but that didn't help
[01:47] <mzawieska> Halitech, as i am doing it for each of the file i have to create title to be able to choose which movie i want to play at the start of the menu?
[01:47] <Ttech> Ah at boot, and after I disabled at modprobe, jbuncher
[01:47] <jbuncher> mbeierl, ok.  Just read the nvidia docs and the xrandr docs I guess, that's all the info I have.
[01:47] <mstrzele> did anybody have a problem with ext4 and ubuntu 9.10? today I lost the root partition with zillion errors wiht inodes during fsck. during mounting an "no journal" error appears. recreating journal using tune2fs didn't help.
[01:47] <vis> so there is no way of completely exiting X at the login screen of 9.10?
[01:47] <jbuncher> Ttech, what did you disable at modprobe?
[01:47] <Halitech> mzawieska, yes, add a new title and add each file to a seperate title
[01:47] <gonzojive> why would sound not work in flash videos but work in the sound test in "System > ..."
[01:47] <slimindiej> ptarrant: certainly possible. multiple audio output options doesn't seem to settle well in most cases
[01:47] <mbeierl> jbuncher: thanks... that
[01:47] <Ttech> vis, You can switch out of it but it'll still be running.
[01:48] <mzawieska> Halitech, the thing is i didnt want to put bunch of avi file into it because it told me the wrong ratio of the dvd usage
[01:48] <Ttech> jbuncher, nothing, tried to enable it87
[01:48] <mbeierl> jbuncher: that's where I'm hitting a wall...
[01:48] <Ttech> But got that instead
[01:48] <Snump> syn-ack: exfat/fat64  would solve alot of my problems if it were cross platform.  ntfs-g is slow and doesn't provide diagnostic/repair.  I have corrupted too many NTFS jump drives thanks to pulling out early.    (nickle for everytime I had that problem)
[01:48] <ptarrant> slimindiej, at work i don't have the ATI card on the machine at work, so thats the only variable...i think thats it
[01:48] <dibs> my numpad 0 only works as 'insert' since koala upgrade, any idea how to remedy??
[01:48] <vis> how would I go about disabling the graphical login then?
[01:48] <Halitech> mzawieska, so use your mpeg files, same principle for either type of file
[01:48] <jbuncher> Ttech, so you booted, then when you modprobe it87, the errors shows up?
[01:48] <slimindiej> ptarrant: i'd wager that's your culprit then. if you have an on-board video option try ripping out the ati card and see if it persists.
[01:48] <Ttech> jbuncher, When I booted with the it87 in /etc/modules I get htat as well
[01:49] <jrib> dibs: do the numbers on your numpad work?
[01:49] <syn-ack> Snadder, thats why you dont use NTFS on thumb drives
[01:49] <ptarrant> slimindiej, same everything, i built this machine because i loved the one at work so much :P only added the ATI for gaming which i can't get away with at work so... lol
[01:49] <Ttech> And sensors do not work either.
[01:49] <DarkMasterHalo> dibs:
[01:49] <mzawieska> Halitech, for example i added one file mpg and it told me 47% of 4.7 gb dvd
[01:49] <dibs> They do
[01:49] <jbuncher> Ttech, what is the it87 module for?
[01:49] <dibs> all except for 0
[01:49] <ptarrant> slimindiej, yep, thats what im thinking, i got on-board vid just for this case :P
[01:49] <Ttech> jbuncher, sensors
[01:49] <mzawieska> Halitech, is theere a way to shrink it and get the same effect and quality of the movie?
[01:49] <Dhuski> Is chromium-browser safe on Ubuntu?
[01:49] <Ttech> Dhuski, Well it works, via PPA
[01:50] <Ttech> repos
[01:50] <jbuncher> Ttech, sorry, no idea then.  Could just be a bug in the module with your board.  If you've googled and found nothing I'd report it as a bug.
[01:50] <Halitech> mzawieska, ignore that crap, its not accurate, I've had upwards of 300% usage, clicked the auto adjust button and gotten a 3.9gig dvd
[01:50] <Ttech> jbuncher, well it worked in 9.04 but after the upgrade it stopped.
[01:50] <gonzojive> Help!  My sound card doesn't seem to work all the way.  It's a VIA VIA VT1708B 8-Ch and Google is totally inconclusive
[01:50] <TheCheeze> Is anyone else having errors getting things out of the repository? i am getting this http://pastebin.com/d5634127e
[01:50] <Ttech> But thanks for trying jbuncher
[01:50] <ptarrant> slimindiej, yep, i'll be doing that and then throw in my ATI and see if its the issue... thanks for letting me bounce ideas of ya and your input :)
[01:50] <jbuncher> Ttech, then report it as a regression :)
[01:50] <Dhuski> Ttech, What I mean is that does it have the same security issues google chrome did on windows? Or is it as stable and secure as firefox?
[01:50] <Halitech> mzawieska, and the quality was fine as long as my original files were good quality
[01:50] <kindofabuzz> I'm getting create floppy devices[178]: specified group 'floppy' unknown  when booting to an alt karmic disc
[01:50] <vis> I've found what I'm looking for =)
[01:50] <Ttech> jbuncher, mhm.
[01:51] <mzawieska> Halitech, i clicked adjust disc usage and it told me 78% now
[01:51] <Ttech> Dhuski, I'd assume the same or similar, but you'll have to look at the site for htat one,
[01:51] <dibs> Anyone able to tell me what my keyboard input method should be set to??
[01:51] <slimindiej> ptarrant: any time :)
[01:51] <mzawieska> Halitech, getting even bigger LOL
[01:51]  * ptarrant is off to install AGAIN... lol but this time without ATI, next time, im getting nvidia....i SWEAR!
[01:51] <Dhuski> Ttech, would you know what the site is?
[01:51] <Halitech> mzawieska, do you have just 1 file selected?
[01:51] <Ttech> Dhuski, not off hand, but I can look it up, its on the PPA site though if you look for Chormium
[01:51] <Speculater1> Anyone able to spare a moment and help me load my icons through either compiz or emerald... trying this custom setup thing is tricky for a ubuntu newbie
[01:51] <gonzojive> is there a less crowded #ubuntu?  i never really get anything solved in here because there is so much scrolling
[01:51] <richard> can someone transfer me to the support chatroom
[01:52] <mzawieska> Halitech, as of now I have only one should i add more?
[01:52] <Ttech> Guest17341, this is it.
[01:52] <mzawieska> Halitech, those serials that i want to add are 1.1gigs each
[01:52] <d9500> Speculater1: you trying to install a new icon set?
[01:52] <Guest17341> thank you ttech
[01:52] <Speculater1> yes sir
[01:52] <mzawieska> Halitech, they all mpg file
[01:52] <mzawieska> halitech how many do u recommend to add?
[01:52] <Speculater1> I downloaded them, and now can't find where to import / install them.
[01:52] <dibs> jrib any ideas on the 0 key issue?
[01:52] <Halitech> mzawieska, yes, wait until you have all the files selected and added, you should be able to get about 3.5 hours worth on a single dvd
[01:53] <jrib> dibs: no.  Play with system -> preferences -> keyboard maybe
[01:53] <Shoshana>  oh my god look http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/219/8867868.jpg  i cant do it faster? its metalink
[01:53] <Guest17341> can some tell me why is ubuntu 9.10 not mounting my Windows Partitions???
[01:53] <Ttech> Guest17341, Is there any errors? RAID by chance?
[01:53] <gonzojive> Ttech: do you have any advice for me?  I am in the same boat as Mark on this page: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/72526
[01:53] <mzawieska> Halitech, they all like 50 min long
[01:53] <mzawieska> to i say like 6 serials i could add?
[01:53] <Ttech> gonzojive, With audio?
[01:54] <Halitech> mzawieska, so add 4 to a dvd
[01:54] <d9500> Speculater1: you wouldn't use compiz or emerald for that. depending on whether you want the icons to be available to all users or just your user, there's 2 different ways of doing it. i presume you've already downloaded the new icon set from gnome-look or whereever and extracted the tar.gz file?
[01:54] <Guest17341> Ttech this is a desktop machine with no raid
[01:54] <mzawieska> halitech thnx
[01:54] <Speculater1> yes
[01:54] <Speculater1> they're extracted and ready to do something...
[01:54] <mzawieska> Halitech, when i go to advanced options under
[01:54] <Ttech> gonzojive, I don't have audio on my system, I purposely left it out, but I'd be in the same boat as you as i use VIA too. Sorry.
[01:54] <mbeierl> jbuncher: "disper" is what I wanted :)   http://willem.engen.nl/projects/disper/
[01:54] <mzawieska> halitech which one should i choose i know iso will burn quicker so iso?
[01:55] <dibs> jrib, ta man, had to set it to a dell 101 key, but working now
[01:55] <mzawieska> Halitech, and easier
[01:55] <Guest17341> Ttech: it says Authentication requeired
[01:55] <Ttech> Guest17341, So put in your password,
[01:55] <gonzojive> Ttech: is VIA poorly supported?
[01:55] <Ttech> That you login with,
[01:55] <Cainus> hey guys... so I've determined I have a daily cron job restarting my machine... I can't figure out how to fix it though... none of the scripts in cron.daily seem to be doing it... anyone have a clue for me?
[01:55] <Halitech> mzawieska, yes
[01:55] <kindofabuzz> I'm getting create_floppy_devices[178]: specified group 'floppy' unknown  when booting to an alt karmic disc
[01:55] <jbuncher> mbeierl, thanks for the info, I'll keep that in mind :)
[01:55] <Guest17341> Ttech there is no option for the password
[01:55] <Ttech> gonzojive, I'm not sure, I think it is supported mostly I just don't use audio
[01:56] <d9500> Speculater1: you should now have a directory (aka a 'folder' ,) let's call it new_iconset in this example. do you want the new icons to be available to all users on the system or just your user?
[01:56] <Ttech> Guest17341, What do you mean? When it was setup you put in a password for you account?
[01:56] <Speculater1> all users.
[01:56] <mzawieska> Halitech, when i want to add second title for the second mpg i cant
[01:56] <Ttech> Or the prompt does not give you box for password?
[01:56] <mbeierl> jbuncher: I just came across it, have been using xrandr and nvidia's meta-modes in xorg.conf for a few years now.  This is much better.
[01:56] <Halitech> mzawieska, what option did you select when you first started devede?
[01:57] <mzawieska> Halitech, i will send u ss
[01:57] <Travis1> can you get help with problems here?
[01:57] <Guest17341> Ttech it just shows me the error, before like you said we had to input our password and it will proceed with the process
[01:57] <Ttech> gonzojive, Perhaps try on the forums?
[01:57] <mzawieska> video dvd creates a video dvd suitable for all dvd home players
[01:57] <Ttech> Guest17341, hmm, The error says password incorrect or what?
[01:58] <Travis1> anyone?
[01:58] <jbuncher> mbeierl, yeah, crazy nvidia and their meta modes.  Found out about those when I was wondering why in the world my card/monitor was only working at 50 Hz.  Just crazy nvidia trickery.
[01:58] <d9500> Speculater1: ok, open a terminal and type gksudo nautilus. this will open the file browser with root priveliges. then, right click on the direcory of extracted icons ( new_icons in our hypothetical example) and select "copy." follow me so far?
[01:58] <Speculater1> yep
[01:58] <shine1> bye()
[01:58] <mbeierl> jbuncher: ah yes, the "use the refresh rate to make xrandr modes appear unique" trick.
[01:58] <Guest17341> Ttech: it just say Authentication Required
[01:58] <Halitech> mzawieska, what do you mean you can't add a second title?
[01:58] <mzawieska> halitech i will show u
[01:59] <Ttech> Guest17341, And there should be a box for a password?
[01:59] <Travis1> i see no one is paying attention
[01:59] <mzawieska> Halitech, this is the ss take a look
[01:59] <Halitech> !ask | Travis1
[01:59] <mzawieska> Halitech, http://i34.tinypic.com/2hxrbcz.png
[01:59] <Guest17341> yes, and a box to remember the Authorisation
[01:59] <Travis1> ok
[01:59] <jbuncher> mbeierl, yeah.  It's sad that for good 3d on linux you need to used closed drivers that pull that kind of nonsense.  I hope that hte open ATI ones get much better soon, or the nouveux guys get a lot of help.
[01:59] <Ttech> Guest17341, And when you enter it there it doesn't work?
[02:00] <mzawieska> Halitech, did u see it?
[02:00] <mbeierl> jbuncher: well... here's hoping :)
[02:00] <d9500> Speculater1: ok, now go to the file browser window you opened with root priveliges using gksudo. in the address bar, type /usr/share/icons and hit the enter key on your keyboard. this should take you to a directory with various icon set folders in it, such as default, dmz_black, gnome, handhelds, etc.
[02:00] <Guest17341> Ttech, it does not even show me the password dialogue
[02:00] <Travis1> Is there a reason that facebook apps wont work in ubuntu while they work in Windows?
[02:00] <UBlondie> I have a completely fresh install of 9.10 and I continue to have same mounting problems of Western Digital usb ext harddrive. No error messages, It just 'clicks' off.
[02:00] <Travis1> r should ireport that to facebook?
[02:00] <Ttech> Travis1, You got required plugins?
[02:00] <sircrazy> what plugin does ubottu use for its factoids?
[02:01] <Halitech> mzawieska, you only add 1 file to each title, is something physically stopping you from adding a second title or because it is showing 94% you think you can't add anymore?
[02:01] <Speculater1> okay I found them
[02:01] <jayferd> travis1, try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:01] <sevenless> Hey, I'm developing a cross platform app that ought to run on Ubuntu. The app needs xsel to be installed for it to work. Can I safely assume that most Linux users have this already, or else, how would I specify that they need it in the apt-get line?
[02:01] <d9500> Speculater1: then paste the new_icons directory you copied in the previous step into /usr/share/icons
[02:01] <Ttech> Guest17341, I'm not sure whats going on there, maybe try the forums.
[02:01] <Ttech> Sorry,
[02:01] <oorah> Does Canonical still ship Xubuntu discs? I didn't see that on the ship it page
[02:01] <Travis1> Ttech: yes i have flash and it loads to loading the player then just stops
[02:01] <Halitech> oorah, no, just ubuntu disks
[02:01] <mzawieska> Halitech, i know my mistake
[02:01] <scarby> I have a similar problem Travis1.... not all fb apps work correctly for me.
[02:02] <Flannel> Halitech: Not just Ubuntu
[02:02] <mzawieska> Halitech, lol i figure it out thank you alot tho for ur help
[02:02] <oorah> Halitech, how come they don't send the other ones anymore?
[02:02] <mstrzele> once again. did anybody have a problem with ext4 and ubuntu 9.10? today I lost the root partition with zillion errors wiht inodes during fsck. during mounting an "no journal" error appears. recreating journal using tune2fs didn't help.
[02:02] <Travis1> how do i install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[02:02] <mzawieska> Halitech, so u think put 4 or 5 movies?
[02:02] <Halitech> Flannel, thats the only ones I've seen
[02:02] <vis> I read some time ago about a terminal manager similar to screen and tmux, but it actually worked in a way more like x window managers - it could layer and minimize windows. does anyone know what it may be?
[02:02] <Halitech> oorah, no idea
[02:02] <Speculater1> okay
[02:02] <edhunter> hi everyone. does ubuntu 9.10 use grub2 by default? (is there some manifest to have a look at the preinstalled packages?)
[02:02] <Flannel> oorah: they never sent Xubuntu.  Just U, K, and server.  If you need to get a Xubuntu disc, try contacting your LoCo team
[02:02] <kubuntuser> Travis1: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:02] <Halitech> mzawieska, if each one is about 50 minutes, then put 4 to a dvd
[02:02] <princem> hello
[02:03] <jayferd> travis1 and scarby: you can do it in the terminal with "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras" or you can find it in the Software Store
[02:03] <d9500> Speculater1: you should now be able to right-click on your desktop screen, and choose "change desktop background" then when the background selector pops up, click on the tab at the top labeled theme, and then click the customize button at the bottom of the window. a customize theme window will pop up. click on the icons tab, and select your new iconset.
[02:03] <princem> just downloaded the latest version of ubuntu.. I select install ubuntu and I get a bunch of errors - authentication failure..
[02:03] <UBlondie> kubuntuser,  ...I actually just tried that half an hour ago ....and the message was that there was no such package to be found?
[02:03] <princem> it never starts the install
[02:03] <oorah> I have Xubuntu installed, just think its nice to have the nice disc label and case and stickers that come with it
[02:03] <Flannel> edhunter: It does.  And, http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.manifest
[02:03] <mzawieska> Halitech, thank you for ur help
[02:03] <kubuntuser> UBlondie: then you have another problem...
[02:03] <Travis1> ok its installing
[02:03] <jayferd> travis1 and scarby: if that doesn't fix it, do come back
[02:04] <UBlondie> kubuntuser, actually ....I think I did aptitude instead of apt-get ....will try again ..... thanks
[02:04] <edhunter> Flannel: thx a bunch. i was sure that there was a list somewhere but i find the site a bit too big for me ;)
[02:04] <Halitech> UBlondie, did you enable the multiverse and universe repos?
[02:04] <jayferd> which apps in particular don't work?  I don't do facebook too often
[02:04] <UBlondie> it's a completely fresh install ....haven't changed anything .
[02:04] <Flannel> edhunter: That's what is in the liveCD image, which equates to what is installed in a default desktop system
[02:04] <Travis1> The YoVille app
[02:04] <edhunter> Flannel: yep. i gathered that much. thx again
[02:04] <princem> anyone know what's going on with my situation?
[02:04] <omelet> #ubuntu
[02:05] <omelet> So I just installed Ubuntu 9.10, and now my sound won't work.
[02:05] <Halitech> UBlondie, check and see, you need universe I think to get the extras
[02:05] <graft_> yo, i upgraded to karmic and compiz doesn't work: sez, "Software rasterizer in use" - any advice?
[02:05] <f0urtyfive> wtf am I supposed to do if xrandr commands dont have any affect?
[02:05] <MickG> Need suggestions on how to get openGL working on a Diamond Stealth ||| - S3 Savage4 card (if that's possible).
[02:05] <graft_> i've got an intel card
[02:06] <UBlondie> Halitech, where do I need to go to set those options? ...is that in Software Sources or Synaptic Package manager?
[02:06] <Speculater1> Nice got em.
[02:06] <Speculater1> Thanks!
[02:06] <eross> i disabled my screen saver but my monitor still blanks out.. where is that setting?
[02:06] <Speculater1> once again Ubuntu becomes even more awesome
[02:06] <scarby> omelet, i had that problem today... lots of different solutions, but mine worked by clicking on the volume button at the top/right of the screen, and moving the bar up to max
[02:06] <Halitech> UBlondie, either place
[02:06] <UBlondie> Halitech, thanks ...
[02:06] <omelet> I've been trying that the past two days
[02:07] <scarby> thats not working?
[02:07] <d9500> you're welcome, Speculater1
[02:07] <eross> nevermind :/ I thought I turned it off but apparently closed the dialog without checking it
[02:07] <omelet> In the sound settings menu under the hardware tab it doesn't list anything
[02:07] <Travis1> ok i installed the Ubuntu-restricted-extras and tryed yoville and it stops at Activating Your Player.... again
[02:08] <jayferd> alrighty then
[02:08] <yoshi765> i NEDD HELP ON RPM FILES BITCHES
[02:08] <jayferd> lemme try this out
[02:08] <oorah> yoshi765, .deb here
[02:08] <yoshi765> GIMME HELP ASHHOLES
[02:08] <GatoLoko> yoshi765: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[02:08] <yoshi765> OR DIE
[02:08] <tsimpson> !ops | yoshi765
[02:08] <MoTec> Okay.. How do I get a normal desktop in UNR 9.10?
[02:08] <yoshi765> ILL GET MY GUN
[02:08] <jrib> !guidelines > yoshi765
[02:09] <DrHouse|Compaq> hey im having an issue my speakers are constently making a POP sound and only began doing this when I upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10
[02:09] <scarby> I'm not an expert omelet, but I goggled the problem today, and loads of different solutions came up.... i got lucky i guess. My suggestion is for you to visit www.ubuntuforums.org and have a look there, i've found that site invaluable
[02:10] <Travis1> so noone else has anymore solutions?
[02:10] <joebodo> DrHouse|Compaq, try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8193272
[02:10] <jayferd> travis1: how exactly did you install the flash player?
[02:10] <scarby> yoshi, you're a funny guy
[02:10] <yoshi765> ass
[02:10] <yoshi765> FUCK UBUTU
[02:10] <sileni> hello everyone
[02:10] <MoTec> Why the heck would they have removed the 'switch desktop mode' in UNR 9.10?  I just want a normal gnome desktop.. not the fisher price desktop.
[02:10] <scarby> lol
[02:10] <Travis1> through the Ubuntu Software Center youtube works perfectly
[02:10] <DrHouse|Compaq> k
[02:10] <netdur> hi, I upgraded to 9.10 and lost "visual effects" I have intel card gm950
[02:11] <jayferd> hm
[02:11] <sileni> i went into System > Appearance > fonts and changed the fonts and it is terrible its horrendous .. can someone please tell me what the default fonts are please
[02:11] <sileni> save me :(
[02:11] <karmic_police> sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-* --purge    then        sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree  to get flash working.... 64bit anyways
[02:11] <spanther> Am I able to play bought BluRay's on Ubuntu?
[02:11] <MenZa> sileni: Sans, 10pt, 96DPI if I recall correctly
[02:11] <oorah> the first thing i always do is turn visual effects off, and then install xfce
[02:12] <jayferd> travis: ah yes i forgot to ask: are you on the 32 or 64 bit version?
[02:12] <spanther> oorah, why don't you just use Xubuntu directly then? :)
[02:12] <Travis1> karmic-police are you talking to me or someone else?
[02:12] <Shoshana> i need help please , i cant resume my download (metalink) its stuck in 98% and stop !
[02:12] <Travis1> 32 Bit
[02:12] <karmic_police> i'm talking to you if you were having the flash problems.. sorry.. i had room lag when i first came in
[02:13] <Travis1> ok im in 32 bit not 64 bit
[02:13] <sileni> MenZa: that looks better than what i had but not like the default one :(
[02:13] <karmic_police> 32 bit should work through the software center
[02:13] <MenZa> sileni: hmm, I'm not on a Linux system right now, so I'm afraid I can't check for you :(
[02:13] <jayferd> travis: this is odd, it's hanging on me too.
[02:13] <arrrghhh> ffado-mixer-qt4?  anyone?  i can't upgrade because it fails.
[02:13] <karmic_police> i know 64 bit is troublesome
[02:13] <Xcell> is karmic under arrest?
[02:13] <Shoshana> i need help please , i cant resume my download (metalink) its stuck in 98% and stop !
[02:13] <sileni> MenZa: ah its all good appreciate the effort
[02:14] <rogerio_depaula> boa noite minha gente...
[02:14] <jayferd> [travis] at "Loading Items. Pleas wait..."
[02:14] <MoTec> Is there a way to get a normal gnome desktop with UNR 9.10?
[02:14] <Travis1> should i report it to facebook?
[02:14] <karmic_police> anyone had ny luck uninstalling evolution without it crashing gnome desktop?
[02:14] <rogerio_depaula> quit
[02:14] <eross> looking in software center, it is first time I noticed SDLbasic and that it even existed.. anyone use it?
[02:14] <Halitech> Travis1, no point, they'll probably tell you unsupported operating system
[02:14] <jayferd> travis1: it's an app, so I would report it to the yotown crew
[02:15] <Travis1> mine stops at Activating Your Player... I already created my character on windows
[02:15] <oorah> MoTec, it should be in the system settings menu
[02:15] <Shoshana> i need help please , i cant resume my download (metalink) its stuck in 98% and stop !
[02:15] <DrHouse|Compaq> thanks
[02:15] <karmic_police> karmic_police... i am refferring to karma police by radiohead
[02:15] <DrHouse|Compaq> problem fixed ^_^
[02:15] <graft> anyone help me getting compiz working on karmic? It says "Software rasterizer in use" and won't start. i have an intel graphics card
[02:15] <MoTec> oorah: i agree, it should be.. it was there in 8.04 but it's not in 9.10
[02:15] <scarby> karmic_police I'll try and uninstall evolution now and report back - I never use it anyway
[02:15] <emma> In my opinion every time Linux doesn't work on something that does work for every other computer user, we should report it, and if they don't fix it then at least they will constantly be pestered by the complaints.
[02:15] <CydeWeys> My key input is all messed up and I need to type my administrative password to install additional language support - how??
[02:15] <spanther> DrHouse|Compaq, wah you use anime smileys so you watch them? xD
[02:15] <CydeWeys> I don't see an onscreen keyboard anywhere.
[02:15] <oorah> karmic_police, yeah, just don't delete any packages that say data or server
[02:16] <DrHouse|Compaq> lol spanther
[02:16] <DrHouse|Compaq> yah
[02:16] <oorah> karmic_police, the rest should be ok to delete
[02:16] <spanther> cool :>
[02:16] <oorah> karmic_police, its part of apps being integrated with gnome, thats one of the reasons i switched to xfce
[02:16] <karmic_police> i will look at that.. took me two installations and a lot of googling to figure out why my desltop was gone after reboot.. lol
[02:16] <mathias_maranhao> Hey folks. I hope to have some help
[02:16] <f0urtyfive> wtf seriously, the nvidia drivers dont support xrandr?
[02:16] <sileni> please can someone that has default fonts from ubuntu please tell me what they see under System > Appearance > Fonts
[02:17] <mgmuscari> let's say i have a drive with NTFS partitions and a bunch of ext3 partitions under LVM... would i just be asking for trouble if i DD'd the whole thing to a file on my samba server as a backup? ostensibly later i would DD it back onto the drive if i had problems with what i'm planning to do....
[02:17] <Travis1> oh and why won't Wine Intternet Explorer work in Ubuntu? it opens and shows a white box
[02:17] <mathias_maranhao> Do any of you know if it's possible to have nokia pc suite to linux?
[02:17] <jayferd> scarby and karmic_police:  I've uninstalled evolution.  The only packages you need to be careful of are the evolution-database ones or some such
[02:17] <MoTec> sileni: sans 10, sans 10, sans 10, sans bold 10, monospace 10.  rendering subpixel smoothing.
[02:17] <Shoshana> i need help please , i cant resume my download (metalink) its stuck in 98% and stop !
[02:17] <mgmuscari> hmm actually i'm not even sure what filesystem my NFS is using... maybe trying to create a 160gb file wouldn't be a good idea....
[02:18] <MickG> Travis1 use in a Terminal wine iexplore <url>
[02:19] <oorah> Travis1, use firefox, epiphany, or galeon lol
[02:19] <sileni> MoTec: yay everything is back to normal
[02:19] <sileni> thank you soo much
[02:19] <scarby> karmic_copper mines uninstalled fine, no errors come up yet, the icon is still at the top, so I guess I'll see after I reboot later
[02:19] <karmic_police> ok.. i see it.. evolution data server
[02:19] <MickG> Repeat - Need suggestions on how to get openGL working on a Diamond Stealth ||| - S3 Savage4 card (if that's possible).
[02:19] <MoTec> sileni: you're welcome
[02:19] <PingFloyd> anybody else having troubles with getting 9.10 to work right with fglrx driver?
[02:19] <Halitech> PingFloyd, what ati card?
[02:19] <sileni> why do people install linux then try to run IE through wine ?
[02:20] <jayferd> scarby and karmic_police:  you can remove all the evolution packages except for evolution-data-server and evolution-data-server-common without borking ubuntu.  these packages i believe are used by other apps.
[02:20] <samuels> sileni: cos
[02:20] <sileni> is there some feature IE offers that fire fox doesn't have?
[02:20] <samuels> sileni: sin, tan, loL
[02:20] <sevenless> sileni: I ran Notepad in wine :-)
[02:20] <PingFloyd> Halitech: ati mobility radeon hd 4570
[02:20] <Powerplay> hi guys
[02:20] <karmic_police> thanks.. will try and cross fingers.. hehe\
[02:20] <samuels> sileni: let'st alk about trigonometry lol
[02:20] <Powerplay> does anyone whether irc.freenode.net is down?
[02:20] <idono> Does anybody know if there is a way to make say, gmail, replace evolution in the integration with gnome?
[02:20] <Halitech> sileni, compatibility with lazy web developers
[02:20] <Powerplay> got probs connecting to the server
[02:20] <Sneex> any one familiar with the ufw (firewall) - what is the proper way to add custom rules and make them stick beyond a simple ufw disable; ufw enable? (Much less survive a reboot?)
[02:20] <MickG> There are some sites that require ie - try the Citi login screen in firefox
[02:20] <Travis1> ok thank you
[02:20] <losha> mgmuscari: I think the real flaw with your backup plan is that if the lvm stuff gets corrupted, you've spent a long time backing up an already corrupt device. Much better to backup at the file level using tar or rsync or some such...
[02:20] <Halitech> PingFloyd, did you use the hardware drivers to install it?
[02:21] <spanther> sevenless, whoa notepad! how 1337! x)
[02:21] <mikeru> where can you see available channels in xchat?
[02:21] <PingFloyd> Halitech: tried both
[02:21] <sileni> Halitech: i see
[02:21] <Travis1> how do you install flash for Wine Internet Explorer?
[02:21] <mgmuscari> losha: yeah...
[02:21] <Guest67897> I upgraded to 9.04 recently and noticed that my printer stopped working after being supported in 8.10.  Whenever I try to add the .deb module the howto indicates, I get a broken package warning on install.  Is there a way around this?
[02:21] <wgrant> SnakDoc: /etc/ufw/before.rules and /etc/ufw/after.rules
[02:21] <mgmuscari> i'm just backing up my /home in that case...
[02:21] <MickG> mikeru depends on yout client
[02:21] <PingFloyd> Halitech: tried the included proprietary ones, and also tried the 9.11 off ati.com
[02:21] <Halitech> PingFloyd, what happens when you try to install?
[02:21] <mikeru> MickG: xchat
[02:21] <spanther> Travis1, you need Internet Explorer? O.o
[02:22] <sevenless> spanther: nah, wordpad is for the truly leet, it has fonts and everything
[02:22] <MickG> I'm using pidgin
[02:22] <Travis1> im trying to see if yoville will work on it
[02:22] <Sneex> wgrant: I tried both and they simply do not stay :P
[02:22] <karmic_police> ok.. done.. won't know till after reboot
[02:22] <jayferd> idono: check out one of my favorite tutorials from the howto geek: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/set-gmail-as-default-mail-client-in-ubuntu/
[02:22] <Travis1> becase of my recent problem
[02:22] <PingFloyd> Halitech: can get them to install ok, but if I use fglrx at all (either version) the system will go black on logout
[02:22] <MickG> try typing /list
[02:22] <spanther> sevenless, hrhr *g*
[02:22] <mikeru> Travis1: download it from adobe's website
[02:22] <mike> is it only me or ubuntu 9.10 sucks?
[02:22] <PingFloyd> Halitech: and only thing I can do at that point is alt-sysrq REISUB
[02:22] <oorah> i wonder why xubuntu default messenger is pidgin instead of empathy
[02:22] <SnakDoc> wgrant: what firewall info for ?
[02:22] <karmic_police> brb
[02:23] <mikeru> MickG: well, I'd rather see something legible
[02:23] <wgrant> SnakDoc: Sorry, I meant Sneex.
[02:23] <ccfontes> I installed all japanese fonts available, but still, when I open this pdf -> http://bm.hus.osaka-u.ac.jp/~yusuke/archive/rireki/sample.pdf I cant see all japanese symbols. Now, I know the non-embedded symbols are there, becasue someone with a windows japanese prepared computer was able to see them
[02:23] <idono> thanks jayferd.
[02:23] <SnakDoc> wgrant:  ok just checking
[02:23] <wgrant> Sneex: Really? They work for me.
[02:23] <PingFloyd> Halitech: one except is I can't install libamdxvba1_8.661-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb due to its dependency on libstdc++5
[02:23] <lefty175> After upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10, Ubuntu will not boot and I get dropped to the busy box. I am dual booting XP and Ubuntu on the same SATA HD, my system overall has two SATA HD and an IDE HD. When I load the 9.10 live CD, I cannot access and receive errors concerning the two SATA drives and the partitions on those, while I can easily access the IDE drive. I can, however, access all drives using the 9.04 Live CD. I'm hoping that some
[02:23] <lefty175> one can help me restore my ability to boot into Ubuntu and help with why 9.10 is having difficulty with my SATA drives.
[02:23] <oorah> is there voice recognition software for ubuntu?
[02:23] <PingFloyd> Halitech: s/except/exception
[02:23] <ganxiaofei> is there some free software on ubuntu i can edit mkv files
[02:24] <Halitech> PingFloyd, not sure, I've never had an issue with the ati driver
[02:24] <ProfOak> http://i38.tinypic.com/2ymxgyp.jpg What is the deal here? When I first log in, I get a black box to the right of my notification menu. I also have a strange amount of space between my libnotify popups.
[02:24] <Travis1> ok it wont let me donwload
[02:24] <PingFloyd> Halitech: it's strange, because the fglrx drivers worked perfect in 9.04
[02:24] <Travis1> flash
[02:24] <wgrant> Sneex: You put the rules in the right chains, as described at the top of the file?
[02:24] <mikeru> does AutoCAD run fine in wine?
[02:24] <mathias_maranhao> does anyone here uses NOKIA PC SUITE with Linux?
[02:24] <jayferd> idono: my pleasure :D
[02:24] <Sneex> wgrant: Hmmm; I have tried several different invocations of this (latest variant shown)  -A ufw-user-input -p tcp --syn --dport 80 -m comment --comment "HTTP Flood?" -m connlimit --connlimit-above 64 --connlimit-mask 27 -j REJECT
[02:24] <Halitech> !wine
[02:24] <SoftwareExplorer> ProfOak: I think it is a default,
[02:24] <PingFloyd> Halitech: this one really has me stumped
[02:24] <Docteh> !cheese
[02:24] <JohnL> mikeru AutoCAD newer versions are fairly graphics intensive
[02:24] <localnnuser__> is remastersys working properly on 9.10 already?? did any one tried it?
[02:25] <mikeru> JohnL: therefore no
[02:25] <mikeru> :s
[02:25] <Shoshana> there is Nokia Ovi for linux?
[02:25] <SoftwareExplorer> ProfOak: Atleast the notify spacing
[02:25] <Halitech> PingFloyd, when you installed from the ati site, did you run sudo aticonfig --initial ??
[02:25] <ProfOak> SoftwareExplorer: What about that black box? It disappears if I remove/put it back.
[02:25] <JohnL> depends on hardware probably mikeru
[02:25] <kindofabuzz> mikeru, appdb.winehq.org
[02:25] <wgrant> Sneex: it suggests that you use ufw-before-input, not ufw-user-input.
[02:25] <PingFloyd> Halitech: yeah
[02:25] <mikeru> JohnL: nvidia 9400GT
[02:25] <JohnL> i can't tell you specifics, I just have used AutoCAD
[02:25] <Shoshana> there is Nokia Ovi for linux?
[02:25] <Mezner> What's the easiest way to update my version of python from 2.6.2 to say 2.7.* in ubuntu?
[02:25] <mikeru> kindofabuzz: I don't believe appdb!
[02:25] <PingFloyd> Halitech: seems like aitconfig --initial just changes the driver to fglrx in the xorg.conf
[02:25] <wgrant> Sneex: (actually, that might depend on your version of ufw)
[02:26] <ProfOak> SoftwareExplorer: Also, libnotify puts my volume popup at the right place.
[02:26] <JohnL> it's not the worst probably if you stick with wireframe
[02:26] <mikeru> kindofabuzz: many people say it works other say it doesn't you never know if it does or not
[02:26] <Halitech> PingFloyd, pretty much
[02:26] <SoftwareExplorer>  ProfOak:Not sure about that black box, but then again, I don't really understand the black box part of what you said
[02:26] <wgrant> Mezner: You probably don't want to do that. Python is pretty core, and 2.7 doesn't exist.
[02:26] <ProfOak> SoftwareExplorer: Take a look at the screenshot.
[02:26] <MickG> Guess no one knows about OpenGl & s3 chipsets
[02:26] <spanther> How to play Original BluRay Movies on Ubuntu? (since they have HDCP or something like this)
[02:26] <Sneex> wgrant: there in lies the problem, I tried that 5 times before I manually inject the rule and it works; using the syntax in either before or after doesn't work
[02:26] <ProfOak> SoftwareExplorer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2ymxgyp.jpg
[02:27] <PingFloyd> Halitech: the other thing I tried...
[02:27] <oorah> i don't pay more for blu ray, like almost everyone i'm content with dvd lol blu ray's only successful marked is gaming so far
[02:27] <PingFloyd> Halitech: tried removing gdm and use startx
[02:27] <vasandgvd> how can i retain the sound playing in tty when i switch from xorg?
[02:27] <Shoshana> there is Nokia Ovi for linux?
[02:27] <SoftwareExplorer> ProfOak: Thanks, I see where the black box is
[02:27] <PingFloyd> Halitech: if I use startx instead of gdm to bootup xorg with that fglrx driver, then it will do same thing as logout would as in not start X at all
[02:27] <mathias_maranhao> Shoshana: I dont think so
[02:28] <Mezner> wgrant, I'm trying to get an expectedFailure attribute to work in python and it says via docs (http://docs.python.org/dev/library/unittest.html) was added in 2.7
[02:28] <Sneex> wgrant: On a Debian box with iptables = 3.1 the rule fails; on Ubuntu with iptables = 4.1 it works, but I have to manually inject it.
[02:28] <spanther> oorah, BluRay's are available for 8Euro just like DVD Movies now :)
[02:28] <oorah> can i install Ubuntu on my samsung delve? and if i do will the phone functions still work?
[02:28] <mathias_maranhao> Shoshana what think is that not even PC Suite is available
[02:28] <mikeru> you could always use ovi.com
[02:28] <mathias_maranhao> that's my doubt
[02:28] <ProfOak> SoftwareExplorer: If I remove my notification item, and then put it back, it goes away. I just don't want to do that every time I log in...
[02:28] <kindofabuzz> mikeru, i'm sure there are alternatives to autocad. i know not the same but you should check them out
[02:28] <PingFloyd> Halitech: so it's like on bootup, X will startup and run the fglrx driver fine, but when logout, it acts up, or if I startup X through startup, then X won't even start at all even on bootup
[02:28] <mikeru> kindofabuzz: well, my dad's thinking about switching to linux, and alternatives are a no
[02:28] <Mezner> wgrant, It appears you are right though. Strange that the docs would say it was added in 2.7
[02:28] <wgrant> Mezner: There hasn't even been an alpha of 2.7 yet.
[02:28] <SoftwareExplorer> ProfOak: The spacing has to do with the notification type. The volume bubbles will not change size, but the ones with the spacing thing can, so they are at the bottom
[02:29] <spanther> oorah, the phone functions are inside the software your phone has now. you can't just remove it xD
[02:29] <mathias_maranhao> Shoshana: where are you from?
[02:29] <PingFloyd> Halitech: s/through startup/through startx
[02:29] <wgrant> Mezner: It is true that it was added in 2.7, but that has not been released yet. You are looking at the documentation for the 2.7 development release.
[02:29] <mathias_maranhao> Shoshana: do you have internet connection thru your mobie?
[02:29] <Shoshana> mathias_maranhao : israel
[02:29] <SoftwareExplorer> ProfOak: Not sure about the notification icon thing.
[02:29] <oorah> spanther, so that means my phone wouldn't be a phone anymore?
[02:29] <Powerplay> guys i recently installed ubuntu karmic and Eclipse is working fine on it. Although I can't use team synchronisation to svn+ssh://domspage.ath.cx with a key file. Though i can connect using ssh in a terminal http://dpaste.com/115577/ Anyone an idea what's going wrong?
[02:29] <Geoffrey2> karmic creates a Downloads folder, but since I kept my existing /home partition, it apparently didn't create one, can someone point me to a howto page on how to set that up manually?
[02:29] <Shoshana> mathias_maranhao : yes
[02:29] <mikeru> whoa, almost all companies are launching new sync services
[02:30] <Halitech> PingFloyd, not sure what to tell you
[02:30] <PingFloyd> Halitech: I'm coming to think it is a bug with that only rears its head with my video card and/or maybe a few others while the rest of the ati cards don't exhibit it
[02:30] <SoftwareExplorer> ProfOak: I'll see if I can find the thing about the spacing, but then I have to go to dinner
[02:30] <spanther> oorah, right. cause ubuntu doesn't have the menu and database your phone OS now has to call people and so on :)
[02:30] <mikeru> nokia's ovi, apple's mobileme, canonical ubuntu one
[02:30] <mikeru> wtf
[02:30] <Halitech> PingFloyd, thats possible
[02:30] <Mezner> wgrant, Any idea if this would then be in 3.1?
[02:30] <mathias_maranhao> Shoshana: Atah adam?
[02:30] <oorah> so linux on phones is just for hobbyists that have no intention of making calls or sending texts? lol
[02:30] <wgrant> Mezner: I don't know. But I wouldn't use anything not available in 2.6, unless you want your software to be impossible to run for a couple of years.
[02:31] <ProfOak> SoftwareExplorer: It's ok i'm just gonna post it on the forum
[02:31] <spanther> oorah, if you install ubuntu on it, you got a mini pc xD but ubuntu (as i know) has no menus for dialing over phone providers
[02:31] <wgrant> Geoffrey2: Try adding XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR="$HOME/Downloads"
[02:31] <wgrant> Geoffrey2: To ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[02:31] <wgrant> Geoffrey2: then xdg-user-dirs-update
[02:31] <SoftwareExplorer> ProfOak: Here's some stuff for you http://www.mail-archive.com/ayatana@lists.launchpad.net/msg00742.html  and how to fix it (havn't tried myself) http://blog.mahboy.com/archives/248
[02:31] <oorah> spanther, oh ok i see thanks. i better not then lol
[02:31] <xeer> how can I pipe a bunch of files from find into totem with the command line?
[02:31] <xkcdoomsday> if I try to change the icon of something on my bar on the top of my screen, it turns into a black square thing.
[02:31] <xkcdoomsday> to a custom one
[02:31] <Geoffrey2> wgrant, should I manually create the folder before using those commands?
[02:32] <xkcdoomsday> it's a svg
[02:32] <wgrant> Geoffrey2: I don't think you'll need to, but I couldn't be sure.
[02:32] <xeer> expected behavior is to have the files show up in the playlist.
[02:32] <mathias_maranhao> Shoshana: I just love hebrew, I'm teaching my self
[02:32] <d9500> oorah: installing linux on a phone is like installing linux on your microwave. sure, it gets you geek cred, but it probably ruins the device's intended functionality. if you want linux on a phone, i think nokia's n900 uses it..and it's preinstalled, obviously
[02:32] <spanther> oorah, well no. if you do it like google with android and make an OS and apps to call with it, you can use it as phone but it needs firmwares for phones hardware and software apps to call people and use other functions :)
[02:32] <Docteh> xeer:  you might have to make a playlist and then run totem with that </idea>
[02:32] <CydeWeys> I just upgraded to 9.10, and now every time I try to type anything, lots of weird characters come out.  For instance, a is /ao49 , b is 9gbv , etc.
[02:32] <wgrant> xeer: find WHATEVER | xargs totem
[02:33] <SoftwareExplorer> mathias_maranhao: cool, I did one year of it to, but I'm in no way good
[02:33] <wgrant> xeer: That will pass all of the files into totem, and it will queue the second and subsequent.
[02:33] <nickiname> how to set the label of cd when using mkisofs?
[02:33] <xeer> wgrant, thanks for the tip!
[02:33] <Docteh> nickiname: whats the man page suggest?
[02:33] <nickiname> no man page for mkisofs
[02:34] <mathias_maranhao> Shoshana: joke me! :-P heheh Living in Israel and not good? Com'on for how long you're there?
[02:34] <SoftwareExplorer> ProfOak: Did that make it clearer
[02:34] <mathias_maranhao> Shoshana: where you came from?
[02:34] <xeer> wgrant, the pipe and xargs sent the files to totem, but files with spaces are broken up into multiple files!
[02:35] <wgrant> xeer: Add -print0 to the args you pass to find, and -0 to xargs.
[02:35] <wgrant> xeer: That will use NUL as a terminal rather than a space.
[02:35] <mathias_maranhao> Shoshana: i apologize... made a confusion... oops sorry
[02:35] <SoftwareExplorer> mathias_maranhao: I think it was me that said I was no good? I live in the US
[02:35] <diskinetic> I upgraded to 9.04 recently and noticed that my printer stopped working after being supported in 8.10.  Whenever I try to add the .deb module the howto indicates, I get a broken package warning on install.  Is there a way around this?
[02:35] <mathias_maranhao> SoftwareExplorer: really? nice.
[02:35] <xeer> wgrant, very helpful, thanks!
[02:35] <oorah> i think Ubuntu should have an updated cookbook in the repositories
[02:35] <mathias_maranhao> SoftwareExplorer: jewish?
[02:35] <princem> can somebody help me?
[02:35] <|Porsche> I think you are having the same problem as I am. cupsd is not startin at boot
[02:35] <princem> I can't install ubuntu
[02:36] <princem> it says authentication failed
[02:36] <princem> never gets to the install section
[02:36] <oorah> made by the community
[02:36] <SoftwareExplorer> mathias_maranhao: no, christian, and thought if I get good, then I can read the bible in the original langauge
[02:36] <wgrant> xeer: np
[02:36] <DrHouse|Compaq> weee compiling crosscompiler ^_^
[02:37] <mathias_maranhao> SoftwareExplorer: I see...
[02:37] <princem> pls help :(
[02:37] <Docteh> oorah: I want "apt-get install wikipedia" before a cookbook personally ;)
[02:37] <CydeWeys> My upgrade to 9.10 got kind of screwed up.  Is there any way to redo it?  To reinstall/reconfigure all of those packages again?
[02:37] <KB1JWQ> princem: There shouldn't be any auth to install it.
[02:37] <Docteh> dpkg-reconfigure -a?
[02:37] <corinth> Is there a way to customize the notifications in Karmic?
[02:37] <Geoffrey2> wgrant, thanks, it appears you do need to create the folder, otherwise the update command removes Downloads from the config file because it can't find the associated folder
[02:37] <tux11> turn them off
[02:37] <wgrant> Geoffrey2: Ah :(
[02:38] <|Porsche> hey anybody knows how to add cups to start at boot up
[02:38] <mathias_maranhao> Shoshana: do you connect thru your mobile using ubuntu or emulate windows?
[02:38] <diskinetic> what's a good inexpensive printer for ubuntu?
[02:38] <Geoffrey2> wgrant, minor matter, create folder, edit the file, run update...voila
[02:38] <mathias_maranhao> Shoshana: Cause I'm wondering how to use my mobile in linux
[02:38] <wgrant> |Porsche: It does by default.
[02:38] <Docteh> |Porsche: it didn't auto do that? see if theres /etc/init.d/cups and then look at update-rc.d
[02:38] <tux11> any printerworks
[02:38] <wgrant> Geoffrey2: Does it get the nice icon and all that?
[02:38] <diskinetic> no, mine doesn't
[02:38] <|Porsche> thats the thing, it is not on my system
[02:39] <CydeWeys> Docteh: Trying that.
[02:39] <wgrant> |Porsche: How did you install Ubuntu? Which version are you using?
[02:39] <BlacKnight> hello, i need a suggestion plz... since i had to remove Pulseaudio to get some things to work... i lost the volume control thing in my gnome panel, is there a way to add a new one ? not a menu opening the gnome-alsamixer or similar i want something smal  :p
[02:39] <diskinetic> used to, but karmic broke it
[02:39] <tux11> whats not on your system?
[02:39] <tux11> 9.10  lol!
[02:39] <Sneex> wgrant: I believe once I have regained server access (the system is 3 hours away in another time zone) I will remove ufw and just do the iptables stuff by hand :P  Thanks for help though :)
[02:39] <Geoffrey2> wgrant, yep, folder with a down pointing arrow
[02:39] <wgrant> Geoffrey2: Great.
[02:39] <tux11> ppl should be running the newest stable release
[02:39] <Docteh> BlacKnight: dig around for a gnome panel applet thats alsa and not pa
[02:39] <wgrant> Sneex: You could. Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[02:39] <OzFalcon> BlacKnight, No.
[02:39] <Sneex> latest on server
[02:39] <diskinetic> so the answer is use 8.10
[02:39] <tux11> as i said use the  latest version!
[02:40] <|Porsche> wgrant: I am running 9.10 fresh install.
[02:40] <tux11> no thats not the answer u should run 9.10
[02:40] <tux11> 9.10 beta
[02:40] <tux11> afk
[02:40] <diskinetic> but 8.10 supported my printer
[02:40] <Sneex> not a beta
[02:40] <Docteh> oh thanks for the reminder
[02:40] <tux11> mine ia beta
[02:40] <wgrant> |Porsche: Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop Edition has CUPS installed and running by default.
[02:40] <diskinetic> so I go back to 8.10
[02:40] <spanther> diskinetic, just use what fits you best! :)
[02:40] <OzFalcon> BlacKnight, The Volume control (Gnome volume control) uses pulse audio. If you have removed it (pulse) you wont have it anymore. I have yet to fine a Decent replacement.
[02:40] <Docteh> !final | tux11
[02:41] <|Porsche> wgrant: I installed from the alternate
[02:41] <tux11> um yeah
[02:41] <Xiella> My OpenOffice 3.1.1 in Karmic (kubuntu) won't open .xlsx files, either from new spreadsheet or double/right-clicking in dolphin.  There are no error messages.  I am having the same issue on OpenOffice 3.1.1 on my XP dual boot.  Is this a problem with OO 3.1.1, or Karmic and Xp combined?
[02:41] <darlek> ubottu > darlek
[02:41] <Docteh> I only did that because you were waving around your current use of the beta ;)
[02:41] <|Porsche> wgrant: it is installed but it doesnt start automatically, I have to do it manually.
[02:41] <darlek> ubottu | darlek
[02:41] <adriyel> wow.
[02:41] <tux11> beta won't update dude
[02:41] <adriyel> a little busy in here.
[02:41] <BlacKnight> ozfalcon, well thanks i'll keep googling tryin to find one :p
[02:42] <wgrant> |Porsche: I installed from the alternate too, and it starts for me automatically.
[02:42] <adriyel> I think KMS is making my machine freeze, how do I permanently shut it off?
[02:42] <Docteh> darlek: you can directly message ubottu
[02:42] <OzFalcon> BlacKnight, Why did you need to remove pulse?
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> !final
[02:42] <adriyel> !kms
[02:42] <darlek> !firefox > darlek
[02:42] <Docteh> too bad I cant do like !final > email@address ;)
[02:42] <oming> hi
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> Docteh:  i imagine its possible. :)
[02:43] <spanther> yeah! New Wave Theme looks awesome! x)
[02:43] <BlacKnight> ozfalcon, it unsync the audio in wine games... sometimes runs good sometimes it delays the audio from 1 to 2 secs, and its annoying in fps games
[02:43] <darlek> how many times does firefox crash in a day now?  I upgraded to 9.10 .  Not happy
[02:43] <Docteh> darlek: why is it crashing?
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> darlek:  i never see firefox crash here....
[02:43] <tux11> 9.10 is aweosme what hardware are u runningb were ff crashes?
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> i did clean install... :) of course it could be FLASH is crashing...
[02:43] <|Porsche> wgrant: hmm I dont know. Where can I check what is starting at bootup
[02:43] <tux11> no ff crashes reported here
[02:43] <tux11> nope
[02:44] <tux11> its notbn flash
[02:44] <Xiella> My OpenOffice 3.1.1 in Karmic (kubuntu) won't open .xlsx files, either from new spreadsheet or double/right-clicking in dolphin.  There are no error messages.  I am having the same issue on OpenOffice 3.1.1 on my XP dual boot.  Is this a problem with OO 3.1.1, or Karmic and Xp combined?
[02:44] <darlek> Don't know.  I checked launchpad and they suggested removing plugins and trying again.  Still, I get crashes a lot more often now compared to yesterday
[02:44] <OzFalcon> BlacKnight, Mmmm. Games in wine are problematic. Good luck.
[02:44] <wgrant> |Porsche: Most definitive check is to reboot and 'ps aux | grep cups'
[02:44] <Docteh> |Porsche: fiddle around with that update-rc.d script or just peek in /etc/rc2.d/
[02:44] <wgrant> |Porsche: If it's running, you'll see '/usr/sbin/cupsd -C /etc/cups/cupsd.conf' there.
[02:44] <darlek> I took out firebug and others.  Left in a couple, but I might have to use epiphany for a while if I want to get anything done
[02:45] <|Porsche> wgrant: already did that. no cups running after a fresh login
[02:45] <wgrant> |Porsche: Huh. Look for CUPS-related symlinks in /etc/rc2.d, as Docteh suggested.
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> $ sudo service cups status
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> Status of Common Unix Printing System: cupsd is running.
[02:45] <PingFloyd> darlek: I'd try uninstalling all extensions
[02:45] <PingFloyd> darlek: see what happens
[02:46] <darlek> PingFloyd, tried that, it works, then I load noscript and adblock, it works, but it still crashed 10 times a day so far.  Really disappointing
[02:46] <saad> guys i want to install skype and it tells me that Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'
[02:46] <saad> waht i have to do
[02:46] <|Porsche> I have S50 cups pointing to /etc/init.d/cups in the /etc/rc2.d/
[02:46] <tux11> thats such bull flash and ff don't crash unless its crappy hardwrea i have no idea why it might be crashing
[02:46] <tux11> ff doesn't crash on acer netbook
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> saad:  if you are running 64bit disrtro you proberly want the 64bit packages
[02:46] <darlek> so just wondering if I'm alone in this
[02:46] <wgrant> |Porsche: What happens if you 'sudo start cups'
[02:46] <PingFloyd> darlek: I run noscript, never have any crashes, maybe adblock is causing troubles
[02:47] <tux11> againg whats your hardwrae?
[02:47] <Sneex> wgrant: Let me ask you this; is this syntax e ufw-before or a ufw-after type rule?   -A  -p tcp --syn --dport 80 -m comment --comment "HTTP Flood?" -m connlimit --connlimit-above 64 --connlimit-mask 27 -j REJECT
[02:47] <Berklib> maybe you've downloaded the i386 package onto a amd
[02:47] <tech-mike> sup peeps - how do i change GDM themes in 9.10 ??
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> tech-mike:  short answer. You dont.
[02:47] <tux11> inahyve an intel atom 1.60
[02:47] <Docteh> Sneex: that looks like an iptables rule
[02:47] <wgrant> Sneex: I'd say before.
[02:47] <tech-mike> Dr_Willis:  wtf happend
[02:47] <kholerabbi> how do I list all my partitons in terminal and find which sda* maps where?
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> tech-mike:  its tweakable a little bit - but not like in 9.04
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> tech-mike:  gnome devs are redoing GDM
[02:47] <grkblood13> im trying to chmod everything that 700 to 644 via: chmod 644 `ls -al | grep -rwx------`
[02:47] <Sneex> Docteh: ufw is iptables underneath
[02:47] <wgrant> Dr_Willis, tech-mike: It is perfectly tweakable, just in a different manner.
[02:47] <grkblood13> whats the correct way to do it
[02:47] <PingFloyd> darlek: also try renaming your ~/.mozilla dir and running
[02:47] <tech-mike> Dr_Willis:  why the hell would they get rid of this - or is it delayed
[02:48] <tux11> i bet its shitty hardware
[02:48] <Gnea> wgrant: not even
[02:48] <wgrant> tech-mike: Now it's a standard GNOME session. You can set the background and GTK theme, for example.
[02:48] <darlek> PingFloyd, well, fwiw it seems to just crash on any media playing or state change, like gmail or https as well.  Both plugins work fine, long term not so much
[02:48] <PingFloyd> darlek: to rule out whether there is a setting causing havok
[02:48] <wgrant> tech-mike: The config tools aren't quite there yet. It's a full rewrite of gdm.
[02:48] <tux11> user refuses to tell us how old or fast his hartdwrae is
[02:48] <tech-mike> wgrant:  well as long as its comin i guess
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> tech-mike:  no idea - go ask #gnome  I imagine like so many other changes.. its a start over to fix core problems.
[02:48] <darlek> PingFloyd, yes, I used a new profile, firefox -ProfileManager and that worked okay
[02:48] <tux11> i'd give up and label this loser as a troll
[02:48] <|Porsche> wgrant: sudo start cups returns start:unkown job cups
[02:48] <tech-mike> Dr_Willis:  how can i change the background then?
[02:48] <wgrant> |Porsche: Uhh....
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> tech-mike:  personally to do that.. i edit the wallpapers in the xsplash directory.. :)
[02:49] <losha> darlek: 10 times a day is pretty excessive. I'd say I see one ff crash every couple of weeks using ff 3.0.14 on 8.04. I run noscript but not adblock....
[02:49] <darlek> PingFloyd, I guess I'll use only 1 plugin, but that blows
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> tech-mike:  i change them all to a nice solid dark blue or somthing other then that ugly brown splashish thing
[02:49] <Docteh> |Porsche: try service cups start
[02:49] <PingFloyd> darlek: if it works ok when you change profile, that means there's some setting messing things up
[02:49] <tech-mike> Dr_Willis:  rather than editing the default image - what config file can i play with
[02:49] <darlek> losha, it's been good since the last upgrade, haven't had browser issues before this upgrade
[02:50] <darlek> PingFloyd, yes
[02:50] <losha> darlek: then dare I say it? Downgrade...
[02:50] <wgrant> |Porsche: Oh, right, what Docteh said. What I suggested only works on native Upstart jobs, whereas "service" works on all.
[02:50] <PingFloyd> darlek: look about:config and revert user set settings back to default
[02:50] <PingFloyd> darlek: you may want to copy the profile first
[02:50] <|Porsche> wgrant: it returns * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd
[02:50] <darlek> losha, naw. lots of options out there
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> tech-mike:  one on /etc/gdm i think. but never figured out which one.. and the format is in XML now.. easier to just edit the images.
[02:50] <PingFloyd> darlek: so you can always revert back
[02:50] <Gnea> tech-mike: you can't, they made it impervious to user intervention. #gnome might be able to say how...
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> tech-mike:  /usr/share/images/xsplash/
[02:50] <spanther> The blue round question icon is awesome! easy howto how to setup firewall with gufw and how to test security and check for package transfers! :D
[02:50] <wgrant> tech-mike: gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties
[02:50] <tech-mike> Dr_Willis:  thx
[02:50] <darlek> I can always use profile manager again, the setting stay in the profile
[02:50] <wgrant> tech-mike: That will open up the usual appearance properties, except it will change gdm instead.
[02:51] <tux11> ff crashe sare for fucking trolls
[02:51] <darlek> PingFloyd, profilemanager helps for that, it runs just missing all my stuff
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> tech-mike:  i use same wallpaper for grub, and xsplash, and gdm , and the user. :) makes the system boot a little nicer looking that way
[02:51] <Gnea> !language | tux11
[02:51] <wgrant> !language | tux11
[02:51] <Schmitty> .
[02:51] <Sneex> :P  oO
[02:51] <tech-mike> Dr_Willis:  ya my 9.04 was slick lookn - now im dealin with the ugly brown
[02:51] <darlek> PingFloyd, this is where a google bookmarks or some website based bookmark program would help.  But that's a plugin!  argh...
[02:51] <Docteh> sweet the bot has throttling now
[02:51] <Sneex> peace peeps
[02:52] <troll> preapring to take out ff haters
[02:52] <holmser> I was messing around with john the ripper today, just to see how secure my password was
[02:52] <darlek> PingFloyd, I'll see how it goes
[02:52] <Guest13970> hey ff hater bring the hate man
[02:52] <losha> Docteh: it has had throttling for a while I think. Months at least...
[02:52] <Gnea> Guest13970: "take out"?
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> wow.. how trollish.
[02:52] <ewb> bill gates rules
[02:52] <holmser> can't figure out why it won
[02:52] <holmser> 't load hashes
[02:52] <anavarro> hi everybody
[02:52] <Joe__> afternoon roomies
[02:53] <anavarro> I have a sed command question
[02:53] <|Porsche> thanks guys i have to go to bed!
[02:53] <anavarro> can you help me?
[02:53] <wgrant> !ask | anavarro
[02:53] <TheCheeze> Is anyone else having errors getting things out of the repository? i am getting this http://pastebin.com/d5634127e
[02:53] <darlek> !ask
[02:53] <KB1JWQ> Guest13970: That's enough, please.
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> anavarro:  ask the actual question and see...
[02:53] <Docteh> I guess if i want to upgrade hardy I have to go intrepid jaunty karmic?
[02:53] <holmser> anyone tried to run john on ubuntu 9.04+?
[02:53] <anavarro>  hi there
[02:53] <anavarro>  I have a "sed" command question
[02:53] <anavarro>  I have this text
[02:53] <anavarro>  "12. This is a test propose text."
[02:53] <anavarro>  and I want to replace ^[0-9]*.
[02:53] <FloodBot3> anavarro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:53] <wgrant> Docteh: Yes. But you will be able to upgrade directly from Hardy to Lucid (10.04)
[02:53] <anavarro> :D
[02:53] <anavarro> sorry
[02:54] <david1_> how do you edit grub2 for dual boot?
[02:54] <anavarro> is quit easy
[02:54] <anavarro> I guess
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | david1_
[02:54] <iceD[R]> What's name of menu (MacOS menu) into ubuntu?
[02:54] <Guest13970> intresting
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> david1_:  normally the update-grub should see/install other os's it finds.
[02:54] <Xiella> My OpenOffice 3.1.1 in Karmic (kubuntu) won't open .xlsx files, either from new spreadsheet or double/right-clicking in dolphin.  There are no error messages.  I am having the same issue on OpenOffice 3.1.1 on my XP dual boot.  Is this a problem with OO 3.1.1, or Karmic?
[02:54] <MythGuy> Can someone help me get my displays right? My HDMI display is acting as the fist display and my VGA is acting like the second one in non-mirror mode and I want it the other way around.
[02:54] <jbuncher> TheCheeze, I don't get that error.
[02:54] <Guest13970> mac menu?
[02:54] <darlek> anavarro, all in one line please, I'm reading a few people here
[02:54] <d9500> iceD[R]: global menu, you mean?
[02:54] <Geoffrey2> Docteh, or, you could download the karmic ISO, burn to cd, and do a fresh install
[02:54] <Guest13970> ff haters can go to heck hes a simple hater
[02:54] <TheCheeze> jbuncher, i think it's something that broke in my dpkg
[02:55] <anavarro> ok
[02:55] <wgrant> tux11: Stop that, please.
[02:55] <Docteh> Xiella: if its happening on XP as well, might that not indicate its OOo?
[02:55] <david1_> I want to set my laptop up to select another OS for auto boot
[02:55] <tux11> or usb intsall
[02:55] <losha> anavarro: so something like: sed 's/^[0-9]*./replacement text/'
[02:55] <tux11> xp is garbage any ways
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> david1_:  check /etc/default/grub
[02:55] <MoTec> Anyone know how I can get the regular gnome desktop on UNR 9.10?
[02:55] <jbuncher> TheCheeze, Could be, seems odd though.  Did you try updating the package list again?
[02:55] <david1_> ok
[02:55] <tux11> deltet that then make ubuntu the lonly install
[02:55] <Xiella> Docteh: I can't find any indication of other OO 3.1.1 users having problems with it when I google
[02:55] <darlek> Xiella, run the command from a terminal, that way when it fails it will spit out an error message that might be useful
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> MoTec:  thats a common FAQ in here.. but ive never seen an answer.. :) perhaps the UNR threads on the forums tell the proper way.
[02:55] <tux11> i feel ubuntu is a better os
[02:55] <Xiella> darlek: did that last night, no error messages at all.
[02:56] <TheCheeze> jbuncher, yep
[02:56] <tux11> but were the ff guy?
[02:56] <Arsin> How can I do a DVD to DVD copy, if it's protected
[02:56] <TheCheeze> i get it in terminal too
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> !ot | tux11
[02:56] <Gnea> tux11: please, don't be a noob.
[02:56] <jbuncher> TheCheeze, did you try with --fix-missing?
[02:56] <Docteh> Xiella: maybe the file is screwy, do you have access to the copy of office that made it?
[02:56] <OzFalcon> MoTec, Wouldn't you just install the Gnome desktop package with Synaptic?
[02:56] <The_reaper489> hey
[02:56] <tux11> its not offtopic
[02:56] <Gnea> tux11: yes it is.
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> tux11:  yes it is.. you are rambling.
[02:56] <lefty175> I recently tried to upgrade to 9.10, but it is not booting and drops me to the busy box. I believe the problem is that it is seeing my two SATA drives as RAID drives, but cannot find a way to tell the existing install to stop seeing it that way. When I use the 9.10 Live CD it also fails to recognize those drives properly. Any help would be appreciated.
[02:56] <anavarro> I have a "sed" command question. I have this text, "12. This is a test propose text." and I want to replace this regexp "^[0-9]*." with the number followed by a "-" instead a "."
[02:56] <Xiella> docteh: I'm not sure.  I just installed Karmic and added the full openoffice package through the package manager
[02:56] <sorakiu> i have 2 ubuntu installs, one is 9.04 desktop x64 and one is 9.04 server x32 -- the server is upgrading fine to 9.10 -- but the laptop doesn't show an update in update-manager or when i run do-release-upgrade -- i'm baffled b/c they are both pointing to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:56] <TheCheeze> jbuncher, it happens with every package i try
[02:56] <The_reaper489> Gnea: no this is not off topic...
[02:56] <tux11> nah
[02:56] <MoTec> OzFalcon: the package is already installed.. it's just got something else on top of it.
[02:56] <darlek> Xiella, oh :(...  any way to convert the file maybe?
[02:57] <tux11> some guy is bashing ff
[02:57] <Gnea> The_reaper489: pardon?
[02:57] <wgrant> anavarro: So you want to turn "12.  This is a test propose text." into "12- This is a test propose text."
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> tux11:  so what. Let it drop.
[02:57] <wgrant> tux11: Which is perfectly permissible.
[02:57] <david1_> Dr_Willis, I don't see any etc/default/grub
[02:57] <iceD[R]> d9500: Style of this . . . http://tucows.sinesurf.co.nz/support/dialup/macosx%2Fdesktop_systempreferences.jpg
[02:57] <Gnea> The_reaper489: are you tux11?
[02:57] <The_reaper489> Gnea: ignore me for a bit, my room mate likes to F*** things up when im away
[02:57] <Docteh> sorakiu: force an apt-get update on it yet?
[02:57] <tux11> he said it crashes ten times a day its hard for him to prove this hes anewbie i gusse
[02:57] <Xiella> darlek: I'm resorting to doing that at the moment but I'm just wondering if it's something I should file a bug report about?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> david1_:   if you upgraded you are using grub1. if clean install you got grub2
[02:57] <Gnea> The_reaper489: too late, you shouldn't have said anything. and watch your language.
[02:58] <tux11> grub 2 seems nice
[02:58] <sorakiu> Docteh, I ran sudo apt-get update and it said i'm up to date
[02:58] <tux11> same here on beta
[02:58] <david1_> it was  an upgrade
[02:58] <pankaj> anyone here manage to get an IMPS server working?
[02:58] <axisys> i just installed wireshark.. but when i click it, it starts as user.. how do I make it start as root? its odd that I have to make that change and the pkg did not get installed like that
[02:58] <darlek> Xiella, if you can repeat it then yes.  is xlsx microsoft office format?
[02:58] <IndyGunFreak> tux11: i guess thats a matter of opinion
[02:58] <anavarro> yes wgrant
[02:58] <OzFalcon> MoTec, What desktop is loaded? What about just removing that Menu program.
[02:58] <axisys> is it gksudo wireshark ?
[02:58] <Gnea> axisys: gksudo
[02:58] <tux11> what is
[02:58] <axisys> Gnea: :-)
[02:58] <MoTec> Hmm.. There is a package called desktop switcher.. but it says 'not available in current data'.
[02:58] <spanther> i setup'ed UFW and now checked my pc with ShieldsUP. it said that it couldn't get "any" information from my computer (NetBIOS) and my pc is very scure :D
[02:58] <IndyGunFreak> tux11: that grub2 is good. :)
[02:58] <Docteh> Xiella: if you have to a file a bug report it might help a lot to have a xlsx file with unspecific data that cant be read by openoffice
[02:59] <KitsuneDr> wubi 9.10 wubi install sucks!
[02:59] <Xiella> darlek: Yes and yes.  It just has no error messages at all, I just wondered if it was my whole system or OO specifically.
[02:59] <jbuncher> TheCheeze, maybe try downloading a new libpcap0.8 manually and installing it with dpkg?
[02:59] <Xiella> Docteh: Alright, I will do that.  Thank you
[02:59] <Docteh> spanther: please read the disclaimer on that ;)
[02:59] <MoTec> OzFalcon: it's called netbook-switcher i think.. and I stopped it from starting up but i didn't get a useable desktop
[02:59] <tux11> yes it is
[02:59] <spanther> Docteh, what do you mean? :)
[02:59] <IndyGunFreak> tux11: like i said, thats a matter of opinion.
[02:59] <tux11> i'd delete xp and just go full ubuntu
[03:00] <OzFalcon> MoTec, I think your already running the Gnome desktop with Compiz.
[03:00] <tux11> ok indy
[03:00] <anavarro> ok
[03:00] <anavarro> I got it
[03:00] <jcgr> anybody runnnig the final release ubuntu karmic
[03:00] <anavarro> s/\(^[[:digit:]]*\)\./\1-/
[03:00] <jcgr> ?
[03:00] <anavarro> thanks
[03:00] <FloodBot3> anavarro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:00] <MoTec> OzFalcon: It's there, yes.. It's just not 'on'
[03:00] <tux11> i lkie the compiz app
[03:00] <PingFloyd> if you're going to run Windows, run Vista or higher, at least they have UAC
[03:00] <jbuncher> jcgr: yes
[03:00] <tux11> that works well
[03:00] <sirius> UAC is crap
[03:00] <tux11> i'd just ditch xp unless u have to run it for some reason
[03:00] <MoTec> In 8.04 it was as easy as going into settings and picking 'change desktop mode' or some such
[03:00] <Docteh> jcgr: ask ubottu for "final" ;)
[03:00] <jcgr> hey jbuncher i kind of have a little problem
[03:01] <darlek> Xiella, ok..   not whole system just format death.  Try another like gnumeric spreadsheet and see if that reads. You can set the columns on formats it doesn't know
[03:01] <jcgr> my USB port donot work
[03:01] <PingFloyd> sirius: yeah, because it's better to run everything with admin privileges :P
[03:01] <jbuncher> jcgr, sorry, I wouldn't know how to fix that.
[03:01] <IndyGunFreak> MoTec: what are nyou trying to do?
[03:01] <sorakiu> Docteh, is there a special option for apt-get that i need to add to "force" a update
[03:01] <axisys> how do I collect battery status and generate rrd ?
[03:01] <spanther> my pc (it says) still replies to ICMP Echo Ping requests and is visible :( (all other things are stealthed)
[03:01] <MoTec> IndyGunFreak: I just want the regular gnome desktop instead of the UNR interface.
[03:01] <tux11> can u force upgrade?
[03:01] <MrSchmo> any ideas on how to fix flash video interaction on firefox with x64?
[03:01] <sirius> chuck norris is always superuser
[03:01] <IndyGunFreak> MoTec: then why did you download UNR?.
[03:01] <Xiella> darlek: hmm, gnumeric spreadsheet, is that gnome?  I'm running kde.  Also what do you mean by format death?
[03:02] <lefty175> I recently tried to upgrade to 9.10, but it is not booting and drops me to the busy box. I believe the problem is that it is seeing my two SATA drives as RAID drives, but cannot find a way to tell the existing install to stop seeing it that way. When I use the 9.10 Live CD it also fails to recognize those drives properly. Any help would be appreciated.
[03:02] <tux11> unr interface i like but its easie rto use
[03:02] <Docteh> sorakiu: you might be running into stupidity involving the release updater and how apt handles /etc
[03:02] <axisys> i guess i could run acpi and collect the data and use rrdcreate .. but is there a pkg available already ?
[03:02] <MoTec> IndyGunFreak: because it's optimized for netbooks.. I was running 8.04 no problems.  It had the option to switch desktop mode..
[03:02] <jcgr> i have a dual boot with vista and installed  the final release karmic koala but my usb ports do no work anybody know anything about this?
[03:02] <darlek> Xiella, oh just a crash because the program doesn't know it.  If you have access to office, save file as .csv and that can be imported anywhere.  I'm googling for a ubuntu solution
[03:03] <Xiella> darlek: Ah! alright, thank you
[03:03] <IndyGunFreak> MoTec: oh i see... well myexperience w/ UNR is limited, i thought it sucked and installed a normal Gnome interface, and was happy
[03:03] <jcgr> ?
[03:03] <OzFalcon> MoTec, Do you want to change from Compiz to Metacity?
[03:03] <tux11> how do u do the desktop mode ?
[03:03] <doltek> Is there a way that I can save my current config of my desktop and config from compiz?
[03:03] <sorakiu> Docteh, should i take everything but the official ubuntu.com lines out of my sources.list, i have stuff like chromium in there
[03:03] <MoTec> OzFalcon: no.. i just want the normal gnome desktop.
[03:03] <The_reaper489> Hey everyone, how is ubuntu 9.10 any reviews on it? i need to know thinking about upgrading...
[03:03] <MoTec> tux11: if you find out let me know :)
[03:03] <Docteh> sorakiu: is your 9.04 up to date?
[03:03] <tux11> thats what bthere saying
[03:03] <soreau> doltek: Yes, ccsm>Preferences <- Export Profile
[03:03] <tux11> normal gnome desktop
[03:04] <VCoolio> in terminal, if I interact with 'read' in bash or when typing in checkinstall question, backspace prints ^H; can I configure it to just do backspace?
[03:04] <OzFalcon> MoTec, Whats a normal desktop for you? 3d or 2d?
[03:04] <sorakiu> Docteh, yeah it says i have no pending updates at all
[03:04] <d9500> iceD[R]: http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/
[03:04] <tux11> 9.10 beta for netbooks running here
[03:04] <jbuncher> The_reaper489, it works well for me, but you should try out a livecd and test it as much as you can with your hardware and software preferences before upgrading.
[03:04] <darlek> Xiella, generally speaking though if it's the same error on XP/Ubuntu then the error lies with OpenOffice.  That being said you need to convert the file for either OS
[03:04] <jcgr> the reaper hey i just installed ubuntu 9.10 final but i the usb ports do not work
[03:04] <MoTec> OzFalcon: the standard gnome desktop.. no spinning cubes or anything..
[03:04] <Docteh> sorakiu: is jaunty-updates enabled? maybe its something like that :-/
[03:04] <The_reaper489> jbuncher: thanks, i will do that
[03:04] <macravin> Debian is Better than Ubuntu
[03:04] <soreau> doltek: To save your other config, back up your home directory, especially ~/.gconf directories for general gnome settings
[03:04] <minimi> Hy people! Question: is wget faster then an ftp client?
[03:05] <iceD[R]> d9500, thanks.
[03:05] <jbuncher> macravin, and chicken is better than steak.  Glad people have opinions.
[03:05] <sirius> minimi: depends on server
[03:05] <OzFalcon> MoTec, OK. Now we get somewhere. UNR comes with Compiz only (3d spinny cubes crap). You want to install Metacity.
[03:05] <Xiella> darlek: Yeah, maybe it's just been too soon for it to show up on google.  Thank you.
[03:05] <sorakiu> Docteh, jaunty updates is checked in update manager along with important security updates
[03:05] <MoTec> OzFalcon: That's not the case.. But thanks for your help.
[03:05] <sorakiu> Docteh, release upgrade says normal updates
[03:05] <sorakiu> Docteh, the show me new releases drop down
[03:05] <d9500> iceD[R]: i don't think there's a karmic version yet, but according to the comments section on http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gnome2-globalmenu-global-menu-bar-for-gnome.html, the jaunty repos will work for karmic.
[03:06] <Xiella> darlek: I'll file a bug report for it, in the meantime I'll just keep converting them manually, thanks for all your help
[03:06] <darlek> Xiella, I think so, I came up empty
[03:06] <Docteh> maybe let it suggest development versions?
[03:06] <darlek> Xiella, np
[03:06] <ASrock> hey i had windows 7 installed on my second hard drive and then i installed ubuntu 9.10 on my main hard drive but when i boot i cant select to boot into windows how do i get these dual booted
[03:06] <macravin> jbuncher: debian is customizable, the new Ubuntu is forcefully branded with the ubuntu logo everywhere
[03:06] <darlek> Xiella, new version blues
[03:06] <d9500> iceD[R]: never tried using a repo for a previous release, so you do so at your own risk if you add the repo and install
[03:06] <minimi> and bide away.... the new Ubuntu Software Center seams a bit crap... like to much clicking....
[03:06] <OzFalcon> MoTec, YES IT IS. I tried UNR on my netbook. It didn't have metacity installed. Metacity is the 2d window manager for Gnome.
[03:06] <tux11> so what about ubuntu logo
[03:06] <Xiella> darlek: heh, yepyep :P
[03:06] <sorakiu> Docteh, i don't see an option for that in the drop down -- do i need to manually put that in a file somewheres?
[03:07] <minimi> I'm not that satisfied....
[03:07] <wrapster> i installed the nvidia-180-kernel-source in the hopes to actually prevent my screen from flickering... but it did not work...
[03:07] <darlek> !troll | tux11
[03:07] <PingFloyd> ASrock: you want to know the easiest way to dual boot?
[03:07] <wrapster> could anyone pls help.. its very stressful to see the screen this way
[03:07] <macravin> I don't like the fact that they put it everywhere, I want people to see I'm using linux not ununtu
[03:07] <IdleOne> sorakiu: are you trying to upgrade to 9.10? if so run sudo do-release-upgrade
[03:07] <jbuncher> macravin, everywhere?  pretty much just the xsplash and the usplash screens, both of which you can change.
[03:07] <Docteh> sorakiu: I'm sitting at a text only terminal, but i think it was like "do_release_update -d"
[03:07] <ASrock> PingFloyd: yes that would be nice
[03:07] <PingFloyd> ASrock: choose to install grub to the linux /boot partition instead of mbr, then use easybcd to having windows chainload grub
[03:08] <Docteh> sorakiu: just make sure its to karmic in that event
[03:08] <sorakiu> IdleOne, yes, i tried that -- it responded Checking for a new ubuntu release and then No new release found
[03:08] <Docteh> sorakiu: add -d to what he said and see what it offers
[03:08] <wrapster> guys pls help.. its very difficult otherwise
[03:08] <sorakiu> Docteh, added -d and it said the same thing
[03:08] <soreau> Docteh: update-manager -d
[03:08] <ASrock> PingFloyd: uh i lost ya
[03:08] <macravin> jbuncher: not in the new version, they like block you, and the login screen is forceably branded, and under system it says about ubuntu...
[03:09] <sorakiu> Docteh, IdleOne  -- very bizarre
[03:09] <Docteh> sorakiu: remove and purge and burn and stomp on the package that provides the update manager then
[03:09] <tux11> so what?
[03:09] <IdleOne> sorakiu: indeed, what does lsb_release -a return?
[03:09] <tux11> ubuntu is the name of ubuntu linux/remix holy crap already1
[03:09] <sorakiu> Docteh, haha -- sudo apt-get purge update-manager-cor e?
[03:09] <Docteh> i believe that'll work
[03:10] <sorakiu> No LSB modules are available.
[03:10] <sorakiu> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[03:10] <sorakiu> Description:	Ubuntu 9.04
[03:10] <sorakiu> Release:	9.04
[03:10] <sorakiu> Codename:	jaunty
[03:10] <FloodBot3> sorakiu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:10] <tux11> i can't belive i'm hearing crap about the bets linux on earth
[03:10] <ctmjr> wrapster, crt or lcd
[03:10] <wrapster> ctmjr: crt
[03:10] <macravin> try sudo apt-get remove gnome-core ; sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:10] <IdleOne> sorakiu: ok run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get safe-upgrade after that run sudo do-release-upgrade
[03:10] <ctmjr> wrapster, try to increase the refresh rate as high as it will go
[03:10] <MoTec> Not too impressed with UNR 9.10, honestly.. Wireless didn't work out of the box, and there is no desktop-switcher - the package is missing.. has no installation canidate.  I don't understand why 8.04 worked great 'out of the box', wireless and all, and all I had to do to get a real gnome desktop was go to system - options - switch desktop mode... I thought newer versions would be better.
[03:10] <ccfontes> hello, I want to request a feature, but I want to know if it is necessary first. any one responsible for that here? evince doesnt display japanese fonts, though xpdf and acrobat reader are able with a convenient package. why there isnt something like that for evince?
[03:10] <tux11> finding it hard to understand why some would hate the logo?
[03:10] <PingFloyd> ASrock: readup on easyBCD,  when you have two OSes installed, it's a question of which bootloader will chainload the other bootloader.  I've found it to be less headache to have window's bootloader chainload grub instead of the other way around
[03:10] <tux11> ubuntu rocks
[03:10] <KB1JWQ> MoTec: What unit?
[03:11] <KB1JWQ> !ot | tux11
[03:11] <tux11> easy apl
[03:11] <mathias_maranhao> Shoshana: ?
[03:11] <MoTec> KB1JWQ: dell mini 9.   I had to update packages over an ethernet connection then enable to wireless driver.
[03:11] <PingFloyd> ASrock: a util called easyBCD makes that easy
[03:11] <MoTec> KB1JWQ: no big deal.. but annoying.
[03:11] <KB1JWQ> MoTec: Just upgraded my Dell mini 9 today.
[03:11] <tux11> leave ubun tu alone that logo hate need sto be left at the dooor really copme on
[03:11] <sorakiu> IdleOne, that didn't seem to do anything, should i do the purge on update-manager-core?
[03:11] <poseidon> I lost my background on my new install.  Anyone know of a wallpaper of a solid ubuntu (glass I think) figure falling into water?
[03:12] <tux11> no updating on beta ethier
[03:12] <wrapster> ctmjr: yes thats the issue.. if i try opening the display tab.. I get an error saying "It appears that your graphics driver does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool.  Do you want to use your graphics driver vendor's tool instead?"
[03:12] <IdleOne> sorakiu: I never tried that but I guess it couldn't hurt to much
[03:12] <PingFloyd> tux11: are you drunk?
[03:12] <tux11> trying to move beta to stable
[03:12] <poseidon> I can't find it and it's driving me crazy
[03:12] <KB1JWQ> !ops tux11 ranting
[03:12] <tux11> no one is ranting
[03:12] <wrapster> ctmjr: and after this there is no way I can actually go and change anything...
[03:12] <tux11> not a bot
[03:12] <sirius> PingFloyd: I am, and I can type properly.  Don't hate.
[03:12] <MoTec> KB1JWQ: You get the wireless to work?  It's not hard.. But it doesn't work after the initial install.
[03:12] <IdleOne> tux11: run normal updates from beta and you will get final
[03:12] <KB1JWQ> MoTec: Haven't tried, honestly.
[03:12] <tux11> nope
[03:12] <KB1JWQ> Let me dig it out and see.
[03:13] <macravin> 9.10 mad  me move to debian , neither the mouse nor keyboard worked... then when I changed xorg.conf to load my drivers I noticed all this force branding
[03:13] <tux11> oh maybe let me check
[03:13] <Docteh> !ops | tux11 is rambling according to KB1JWQ
[03:13] <KB1JWQ> MoTec: Although it DID see all the nearby networks, so... :-)
[03:13] <tux11> yes
[03:13] <KB1JWQ> Docteh: Thanks. :-)
[03:13] <MenZa> Docteh: We generally get it on the use of '!ops' :)
[03:13] <foul_owl> how do i type unicode characters? i tried ctrl+shift+hex code but no effect. gnome
[03:13] <PingFloyd> macravin: yeah, I think there's some bugs still needing fixing, maybe it will get better in a few months
[03:13] <tux11> no one is ranting thanks
[03:13] <IdleOne> macravin: please report issues/bugs @ launchpad.net
[03:13] <Docteh> MenZa: i figured i'd do it right and trigger everyones highlight
[03:14] <Sirisian> Does cp -r go into symbolic links?
[03:14] <MoTec> KB1JWQ: just make sure you update packages.. then you go into system - hardware drivers and enable the proprietary broadcom sta wireless driver.
[03:14] <ctmjr> wrapster, in terminal type nvidia-settings
[03:14] <macravin> I did, and the fixes
[03:14] <KB1JWQ> MoTec: Welp, it worked out of the box for me, is what I'm saying.
[03:14] <macravin> it only happens when you upgrade form jaunty
[03:14] <KB1JWQ> MoTec: I'm pitching in to help you out here, my box works fine. :-)
[03:14] <wrapster> ctmjr: "ou do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[03:14] <IdleOne> macravin: I upgraded without issues
[03:14] <tux11> never teste dthe wi fi
[03:14] <MoTec> KB1JWQ: That's really odd.. because I installed from a fresh download about 3 hours ago.. I had to update my packages before it showed under hardware drivers...
[03:15] <losha> Sirisian: it's configurable. I think the default is it copies the linked to file... man cp
[03:15] <ctmjr> wrapster, type sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:15] <tux11> but bethernet now works
[03:15] <KB1JWQ> MoTec: I'm on the HP Mini 1000.
[03:15] <SetiAmon> Only issue i have is my Xtreme music(xfi) sound is all messed up.static and distortions
[03:15] <tux11> acer aspire one  d250
[03:15] <MoTec> KB1JWQ: Aaah.. A little different then... I found a lot of threads on the wireless on the mini-9 requiring an update before they worked.
[03:15] <wrapster> ctmjr: "data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf, much have a driver line"
[03:15] <macravin> It's a hardware thing, anyway debians update worked, so I switched. Even though their default theme is the ugliest thing I have ever seen
[03:15] <KB1JWQ> MoTec: Yeah, I went the HP direction.  It runs OS X nicely too, but it's not made for screens that tiny.
[03:16] <PingFloyd> macravin: it is always a hardware thing
[03:16] <macravin> and it doesn't start up with usplash
[03:16] <MoTec> KB1JWQ: you using the UNR desktop thingy or you get a real gnome desktop somehow?
[03:16] <johnjohn101> i love the new ubuntu. LOVE it
[03:16] <KB1JWQ> MoTec: The former.  Works better that way.
[03:17] <princem> I keep getting authentication failed when trying to install ubuntu
[03:17] <PingFloyd> macravin: are you having a video driver issue?
[03:17] <princem> is this a known issue?
[03:17] <jmcantrell> after installing karmic, i boot up and after the little logo, the screen goes blank. any ideas what's wrong?
[03:17] <macravin> I admit that the new splash theme id good, but the new ubuntu is really irritating
[03:17] <MoTec> KB1JWQ: the lack of a 'close' button in the upper right of the windows drives me nuts..
[03:17] <Adys> I got a windows xp partition which I cant currently access, how do I add it to grub? its on hd(0,2)
[03:18] <macravin> you cant customize the grub menu ether
[03:18] <mgmuscari> hmmmm does anyone know if i can use wine to run BOOTSECT.exe from the windows 7 install media to make a bootable usb install drive?
[03:18] <doltek> How do I disable the count down in the boot up before it loads ubuntu?
[03:18] <mgmuscari> using the default ubuntu wine installation
[03:18] <SetiAmon> since moving to karmic I haven't seen any differences except that my sound is all distorted,and i can't install the creative x-fi drivers to fix it
[03:18] <wrapster> ctmjr: in the xorg.conf file i  can see that the driver section has nvidia listed ....
[03:18] <wrapster> ctmjr: as an entry
[03:18] <craigbass1976> sudo mount 192.168.0.3:/nfs/share/ /nfs/share/mountpoint  <--  This isn't working.  My wife shut off the server, and it was mounted up on my laptop at the time. How do I remount it without rebooting?
[03:18] <wrapster> ctmjr: this is the 2nd time i am reinstalling ubuntu (32bit) and both times i faced this issue...
[03:18] <jmcantrell> i don't even have an xorg.conf. what gives?
[03:19] <wrapster> ctmjr: :(.... pls help
[03:19] <Adys> doltek: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst, change the line that says timeout		3
[03:19] <mgmuscari> craigbass1976: umount -f to force unmounting
[03:19] <craigbass1976> When I try to unmount it, device is busy
[03:19] <craigbass1976> mgmuscari, ahh
[03:19] <ctmjr> wrapster, paste your xorg.conf file
[03:19] <brocgiddens> how many of you guys have been getting the kernel error about ecc memory at boot in 9.10? and what do you know about it?
[03:19] <macravin> xorg.conf is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:19] <mgmuscari> craigbass1976: use lsof to find out which processes have handles open in that path
[03:19] <ctmjr> !paste > wrapster
[03:19] <craigbass1976> lsof is hanging
[03:20] <craigbass1976> mgmuscari, ^^
[03:20] <Athar_> does anyone know how to save all your notes in Tomboy?
[03:20] <foul_owl> how do i type unicode characters? i tried ctrl+shift+hex code but no effect. gnome
[03:20] <MoTec> meh, guess i'll just go back to 8.04.  it worked fine
[03:20] <Athar_> it seems like they're saved in ~/.local/share/tomboy, but will it be enough to simply copy them to another computer?
[03:20] <mgmuscari> craigbass1976: be patient... can take a minute
[03:20] <KB1JWQ> craigbass1976: stale NFS mount?
[03:20] <MoTec> well, it worked great, honestly.. heh
[03:20] <craigbass1976> Athar_, there must be a .tomboy or equivalent directory in /home/you/ that has the data
[03:20] <Adys> craigbass1976: killall on the process, then fusermount -u myShare
[03:20] <Phase> Anyone know of an application that would let me create a sound file emitting a specific Hz?
[03:20] <OzFalcon> MoTec, Did you say desktop-switcher doesn't work?
[03:20] <wrapster> ctmjr: http://pastie.org/681023
[03:20] <jmcantrell> i have an nvidia card. is there a way that i can boot into a safe mode so that i can configure the driver somehow?
[03:21] <Loafers> Which is better Go-oo or OOo?
[03:21] <jmcantrell> right now all i get is a blank screen
[03:21] <RobMcMahon> OOo
[03:21] <craigbass1976> I cannot believe how angry I am...
[03:21] <sorakiu> guys -- forgot an errrand -- will be back on at another time -- thx for suggestions -- will figure it uout later
[03:21]  * losha wishes there was a #ubuntu-lts-support list
[03:21] <macravin> heyy lets go to #debian-offtopic
[03:21] <Athar_> It seems like I have no .tomboy directory in my home folder, though
[03:21] <MoTec> OzFalcon: yeah.. it tells me the pacakge is referenced by another package, but not available.
[03:21] <Loafers> RobMcMahon, Why?  I read Go-oo is supposedly faster and better?
[03:21] <Docteh> Phase: dang it i knew of one, the tool that everyone uses for like aiff -> wav conversion does it
[03:21] <Docteh> sox?
[03:21] <jbuncher> losha, do you have a hardy question?
[03:22] <OzFalcon> MoTec, So it's not even installed?
[03:22] <Phase> Docteh: no idea what that tool would be
[03:22] <MoTec> OzFalcon: correct
[03:22] <OzFalcon> MoTec, Can you do a force install?
[03:22] <Phase> Docteh: I'm poking around synaptic atm
[03:22] <losha> jbuncher: no, I don't to spend time supporting non-lts releases....
[03:22] <jmcantrell> anyone else had any issues doing a fresh install with an nvidia card?
[03:23] <MoTec> OzFalcon: Package desktop-switcher has no installation canidate.
[03:23] <jbuncher> losha, ok
[03:23] <wrapster> ctmjr: any idea of how to resolve it? or am I missing some pkg?
[03:23] <speculater> how do I get effects in compiz for highlighting the urls in firefox?
[03:23] <losha> jbuncher: thanks for offering though... :-)
[03:23] <IdleOne> MoTec: I think your looking for indicator-applet-session
[03:24] <jbuncher> losha, no problem, I'm still running 8.04 on my desktop and laptop, so I thought I'd offer.
[03:24] <jmcantrell> anyone?
[03:24] <jbuncher> jmcantrell, sorry, just did an upgrade, worked fine.
[03:24] <losha> jbuncher: me too, still at 8.04 on server and desktop...
[03:24] <jmcantrell> how can i boot into single user mode?
[03:24] <Guest33368> ubuntu v9.04 i'm updating packages on a program and its saying your computer appears to be behind a firewall, i have firestart installed but have allowed the ports needed....does ubuntu have another firewall?
[03:24] <jmcantrell> i can't seem to get into the grub menu
[03:24] <OzFalcon> MoTec, Hmmm.
[03:24] <freevryheid> karmic rocks ! nice to see eclipse is updated to 3.5. Any news on the cdt update?
[03:25] <MoTec> IdleOne: "indicator-applet is an applet to display information from various applications consistently in the GNOME panel."  Doesn't sound appropriate.
[03:25] <SetiAmon> hey were do i report bugs/errors with karmic koala?i want to report my xfi sound problems
[03:25] <jmcantrell> what can i do if all i'm getting is a blank screen on boot?
[03:26] <jbuncher> SetiAmon, search for your bugs on launchpad.net
[03:26] <tonsofpcs> anyone have a good upnpav media player?  Using mplayer but it seems to set a start point at 50% every time...
[03:27] <Docteh> Phase: find yourself a tone generator yet?
[03:27] <OzFalcon> MoTec, Is the package available for normal 9.10?
[03:27] <freevryheid> tonsofpcs, tried vlc?
[03:27] <SetiAmon> nah i'll just wait a week or two untill the kinks are worked out.
[03:27] <jbuncher> losha, it's a nice solid release :)
[03:28] <jmcantrell> hardly
[03:28] <Phase> Docteh: nope
[03:28] <MoTec> OzFalcon: Oh, and metacity is already installed, by the way.  And I do not know if that package is available for normal 9.10... I doubt it, actually.. As I thought the packages were the same.
[03:28] <jmcantrell> i can't even get it to boot up
[03:28] <losha> jbuncher: personally. I think it should be the release of choice for beginners, but what do I know?
[03:28] <OzFalcon> MoTec, Yeah, Sorry bout before.
[03:28] <MoTec> OzFalcon: not a problem.. I'm grasping at straws :)
[03:29] <jmcantrell> what are my debugging options if all i get is a blank screen?? please! anyone?
[03:29] <OzFalcon> MoTec, I have a 9.10 xubuntu install. I'll check it.
[03:29] <OzFalcon> MoTec, Moment.........
[03:29] <Jordan_U> Phase: What exactly do you need, audacity has tone genorators and can be scripted, and there are other programs as well
[03:29] <Trizicus> How can I make cpufreq-selector always be on 'performance' mode?
[03:29] <OzFalcon> MoTec, (It's in the garage.......)
[03:29] <OzFalcon> MoTec, (Down the back..............)
[03:29] <jmcantrell> this is an ubuntu support channel, right??
[03:30] <princem> first time trying ubuntu
[03:30] <Paullo_> SuperOS is really good?
[03:30] <rolando_> hola que tal me pueden pasar manual información sobre como instalar programas  los cuales tengo que compilar primero
[03:30] <princem> i can't install it :(
[03:30] <Phase> Jordan_U: I just want to play a continuous sound at a specific hertz range.. just over and over and over
[03:30] <Jordan_U> jmcantrell: Try holding shift at boot and selecting recovery mode
[03:30] <princem> I try to install it and get authentication failed - and it just boots up into live mode
[03:30] <princem> somebody please help me :( :(
[03:30] <putz3000> I would like to upgrade 9.04 to 9.10.  I am unable to find the "alternative" download iso that the instructions talk about.  What must I do to upgrade from cd/iso image?
[03:30] <losha> jmcantrell: it is: but your problem is difficult. I'm not sure you have much in the way of debugging options at this point
[03:30] <jbuncher> losha, yeah, though there's enough little things between 8.04 and 9.10 that are nice for users (newer firefox/openoffice, compact view in nautilus, the new notification system is quite nice, kde4 for those that like that, etc.)
[03:30] <tonsofpcs> freevryheid: all the prebuilt ubuntu builds seem to have upnp renderer disabled...
[03:30] <Trizicus> how can I change the default CPU freq. in Ubuntu? I know how to change it in the OS but I have to keep changing at reboot.
[03:31] <tech-mike> anybody elses empathy / pidgin notification area offset ?
[03:31] <tonsofpcs> err, upnp discovery...
[03:31] <OzFalcon> MoTec, Strangely My 9.04 installs desktop-switcher. And gives me the option to switch to UNR desktop (On 9.04!)
[03:31] <jmcantrell> this sucks
[03:31] <Jordan_U> Phase: You can easily create a wav file in audacity and loop it, or you can use something like "beep"
[03:31] <dksoba> In Windows, if I open up a particular directory with 4000+ simulation files, it displays nearly instantly. Is there a settings problem that causes this operation to take 30+ seconds? (In GUI, or if I type ls /at/the/dir)
[03:31] <losha> jbuncher: well, if the next LTS can be as stable as 8.04, I'll be very happy...
[03:31] <tonsofpcs> freevryheid: i'd love to use vlc if there's an x86 built with upnpav discovery already....
[03:31] <Jordan_U> !alternate | putz3000
[03:31] <mhaz> how did your upgrade to karmic go?
[03:31] <Phase> Jordan_U: I'll look around audacity and `beep` then, thanks :)
[03:31] <MoTec> OzFalcon: 8.04 worked fine, too :)
[03:32] <Jordan_U> Phase: np
[03:32] <MoTec> OzFalcon: http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304756&highlight=desktop-switcher
[03:32] <princem> anyone??
[03:32] <MoTec> at least i'm not the only one, lol.
[03:32] <tech-mike> anybody elses empathy / pidgin notification area offset ?
[03:32] <Jordan_U> putz3000: Let me get you a direct link
[03:32] <scott_ino2> tech-mike, it's a known issue
[03:32] <tech-mike> scott_ino2:  damn
[03:32] <jbuncher> losha, indeed, as long as there aren't problems reminiscent of the pulseaudio problems that there were when 8.04 got released (oh!  and inkscape got revved by a version in 9.10, so that a bug that's been in there since hardy finally got fixed :) )
[03:32] <eoin> !minimal > eoin
[03:32] <putz3000> so it is now referenced as a text download I take it then, I saw it under the windows download option.
[03:32] <rolando_> que trae de nuevo ubuntu 9.10?
[03:33] <scott_ino2> tech-mike, you do mean the placement of the notification correct?
[03:33] <tech-mike> scott_ino2:  yes
[03:33] <tech-mike> scott_ino2:  its lower than it should be
[03:33] <trampel> !es > rolando_
[03:33] <scott_ino2> tech-mike, yeah it's a known issue
[03:33] <ctmjr> wrapster, sorry had to take care of something you said when you run nvidia-sttings it kicks out an error you are not running the nvidia driver?
[03:33] <tonsofpcs> freevryheid: it seems the last ubuntu vlc build that had it enabled was dapper...
[03:33] <PingFloyd> mhaz: upgrade went fine, but some proprietary drivers stopped working right
[03:33] <scott_ino2> tech-mike, actually it's not an issue it was done that way intentionally
[03:33] <scott_ino2> tech-mike, hopefully they'll fix it still
[03:33] <tech-mike> scott_ino2:  needs to go back
[03:33] <rolando_> ??
[03:33] <Jordan_U> putz3000: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate ( it's called "text based installer" on ubuntu.com/download )
[03:33] <tech-mike> scott_ino2:  its lame that when u hover on it it fades out rather than focus
[03:34] <rolando_> ls
[03:34] <IdleOne> !es | rolando_
[03:34] <princem> Please help me, I really want to try linux for the first time.. can't get it to install :(
[03:34] <losha> jbuncher: well. I don't mind there being initial bugs, as long as they do get fixed. IMO, the best release to pick is an LTS that's about 6 months old...
[03:34] <tonsofpcs> i'm using machines with very limited drive space, so compiling myself is not an option [unless i figure out how to crosscompile from this x64 box]
[03:34] <Jordan_U> princem: What happens when you try to install?
[03:34] <MoTec> princem: just boot off of the live cd and check it out.
[03:34] <putz3000> Jordan_U: thank you, that will help.  thanks for the help
[03:34] <Jordan_U> putz3000: np
[03:34] <princem> I get authentication failure when I select install ubuntu
[03:34] <scott_ino2> tech-mike, notifications are still very new so hopefully they'll make a few features for it, options/preferences
[03:34] <rolando_> ok gracias
[03:34] <princem> and it boots up to a logon prompt
[03:34] <princem> I never get options to install
[03:35] <princem> err.. i never get prompts like the screen shots show
[03:35] <jbuncher> losha, yeah, unfortunately there's just a ton of moving parts when upgrading a distro.  I stick with the "keep a spare partition on my machines for testing the latest ubuntu release so I know if all my stuff works when I upgrade" method :)
[03:35] <princem> i have installed it before on another computer but this version is giving me trouble
[03:35] <tech-mike> scott_ino2:  also ... anybody elses sound seem glitchy ? mine is a nvidia driver
[03:35] <princem> I currently have xp loaded on the hard drive
[03:35] <PingFloyd> princem: did you check the md5sum of the downloaded iso?
[03:35] <scott_ino2> tech-mike, I haven't experienced any problems with sound
[03:35] <Jordan_U> princem: Do you get to a desktop when you boot from the LiveCD?
[03:35] <OzFalcon> MoTec, Definatly a 9.10 bug. xubuntu fails the same. (They all use the same repos. They are all missing desktop-switcher)
[03:36] <trampel> princem: isn't this behavior a new "feature" of grub2?
[03:36] <PingFloyd> princem: all sorts of weird things can happen when you get a bad copy of an iso
[03:36] <tech-mike> scott_ino2:  hmm, could also be related to the kernal crash detected pop ups i had/have
[03:36] <tech-mike> scott_ino2:  somehow related to bios ecc ?
[03:36] <MoTec> OzFalcon: yeah.  found a 14h old 'bug' about it being missing from the repositories.
[03:36] <scott_ino2> tech-mike, yeah i have those, however i don't think they're actually serious
[03:36] <princem> no I haven't tried live cd
[03:36] <tech-mike> scott_ino2:  i8 well thx....ill wait to see what updates pump out
[03:36] <princem> I have only tried the install ubuntu option
[03:37] <scott_ino2> tech-mike, sound issues wouldn't be a buntu thing, probably alsa related unless ubuntu is doing something weird
[03:37] <princem> but after getting all those errors it boots me into a logon prompt
[03:37] <princem> I can't login with any credentials
[03:37] <MoTec> princem: definately use the option to 'try without making any changes' first.  make sure all your hardware works
[03:37] <Bergerac-Fleur> I can not, for the life of me configure my xorg.conf so that my tablet gets mapped to only one monitor!
[03:37] <princem> I downloaded the ubuntu copy from the ubuntu website
[03:37] <OzFalcon> MoTec, Ubuntu is getting very rough round the edges.
[03:37] <PingFloyd> princem: which iso?
[03:37] <losha> jbuncher: yep, I like to keep a spare root partition for installs. Eventually, I'll give 9.10 a try natively. So far, 9.10 has run ok for me in vmware but I'm not ready to *rely* on it...
[03:37] <princem> ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[03:37] <MoTec> OzFalcon: still better than most the options
[03:37] <PingFloyd> princem: what kind of cpu do you have?
[03:38] <dksoba> Is there a way to "record" all the commands you put into the termal like a MATLAB "diary"?
[03:38] <princem> hmm.. not sure
[03:38] <princem> it's an acer aspire 5000
[03:38] <princem> laptop
[03:38] <princem> It can run windows 7
[03:38] <FloodBot3> princem: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:38] <trampel> dksoba: man script
[03:38] <dksoba> trampel, thanks
[03:38] <Jordan_U> dksoba: look at $HOME/.bash_history
[03:38] <jbuncher> losha, yeah.  I've been testing it for a few weeks on the desktop and laptop, and everything I need seems solid.  I'm just worried about converting my existing xp vm from vmware to vbox.
[03:38] <OzFalcon> MoTec, I have about 5 bugs that should really never happen on a standard release. (But yeah - It's still ok. Fedora seem to get it right more often though)
[03:39] <princem> i'll try booting to live cd.. but let me know if you have any ideas
[03:39] <jbuncher> losha, and part of me at least wants to upgrade the desktop, so that I will have gone breezy->dapper->edgy->feisty->gutsy->hardy->intrepid->jaunty->karmic on a single install :)
[03:39] <Jordan_U> princem: Did you want to install Ubuntu to another partition or did you want to install it as a file in your windows paritition?
[03:39] <losha> princem: if you're a first timer, you may have better luck with 8.04 LTS. It has fewer features but is more stable...
[03:39] <egoTripper88> !apcupsd
[03:39] <MoTec> OzFalcon: desktop-switcher is still on the source repositories.. about to try to compile it, lol.
[03:40] <OzFalcon> MoTec, :-) Cool
[03:40] <soreau> jbuncher: Don't forget warty and hoary :)
[03:40] <princem> there is no option for partitions.. after selecting install ubuntu I get some kind of white logo.. then a bunch of text followed by authentication failure
[03:40] <losha> jbuncher: I don't like to run multiple releases, so anything i adopt has to be stable enought to run on my server. I guess I'm just a coward...
[03:40] <princem> then it loads the logon screen.. that I can't get past
[03:40] <jbuncher> soreau, lol yeah, but I installed ubuntu first on breezy, so I missed those.
[03:40] <egoTripper88> How do i configure apcupsd to manage a usb attached Apc Back-up ups rs 900 in xubuntu?
[03:41] <jbuncher> losha, yeah, I do work on my deskotp and laptop, so I keep them synced to the same distro to keep things sane.  Mythbox is still running dapper though....
[03:41] <ianm_> any recommendations for playing music (samples) live via midi in ubuntu?
[03:41] <trampel> princem: and your iso has the correct mk5sum associated with your download?
[03:41] <ayman> how can make live cd from ubuntu karmic 9.10
[03:41] <princem> How would I check that? It very well could be a bad cd or burn
[03:41] <z3NNN> Ayman; Burn it with Poweriso.
[03:42] <Jordan_U> !md5 | princem
[03:42] <princem> I downloaded it from the ubuntu website.. i assume it's legit
[03:42] <ekontsevoy> I get "Failed to retreive share list from server" when I click on my Windows computer name in Ubuntu's gnome, yet smbtree command prints several shares on that machine just fine
[03:42] <trampel> princem: run mk5sum on the iso file
[03:42] <jimhill> Apologies if this has been covered already, but how does one get 9.10 onto a USB stick without an extant Linux or Windows box?
[03:42] <princem> will do
[03:42] <losha> jbuncher: What a coincidence! My mythbox is running on my 8.04 server. I think it's that that I'm most scared of disturbing...
[03:42] <ekontsevoy> Where do I look? I have a simple Windows 7 laptop with configured "home group" and Ubuntu's Gnome cannot see the shares...
[03:42] <ayman> no   am already install karmic i mean backup for all sys
[03:42] <paissad-hp> i would like to have an advice, i bought a cpu cooler zalman and it contained also a thermal grease, i want to know if it's better than the xilence silver thermal compound !
[03:42] <paissad-hp> thanks in advance
[03:42] <wgrant> paissad-hp: That doesn't really sound Ubuntu-related.
[03:43] <Jordan_U> jbuncher: Is mythTV supported on Dapper still?
[03:43] <dksoba> trampel, is there a way to do it w/out the output from the commands? I just want to record my commands
[03:43] <scott_ino2> paissad-acer, i use only zalman coolers the grease they provide is fine
[03:43] <snuffy47> anyone here see this before  smiths@smiths-laptop1:~$ smbclient -L ubuntu
[03:43] <snuffy47> Enter smiths's password:
[03:43] <snuffy47> Domain=[HOME] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.3.2]
[03:43] <snuffy47> Server requested LANMAN password (share-level security) but 'client lanman auth' is disabled
[03:43] <snuffy47> tree connect failed: SUCCESS - 0
[03:43] <FloodBot3> snuffy47: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:43] <ianm_> jimhill: maybe something here http://www.google.com/search?q=create+ubuntu+usb+windows
[03:43] <wgrant> Jordan_U, jbuncher: Only essential server applications remain supported in Dapper.
[03:43] <Jordan_U> paissad-hp: Try ##hardware
[03:43] <Eric-Storm> I'm having a mouse issue... After about 5-20 minutes of use my mouse freezes. It's a USB mouse. I've tried several mice it keeps happening. Any ideas?
[03:43] <ianm_> jimhill: oh you said without windows?  so what do you have exactly?
[03:44] <ayman> z3nnn
[03:44] <trampel> dksoba: uh... "script fred" puts all subsequent commands in the file "fred"... then "exit" to stop the recording.  how is this other than you want?
[03:44] <jimhill> lanm_: 2 OS X laptops.
[03:44] <snuffy47> http://paste.ubuntu.com/308166/ anyone see this beofre
[03:44] <dksoba> trampel, I guess I didn't read the man pages correctly
[03:44] <trampel> dksoba: that happens.... ;)
[03:44] <OzFalcon> jimhill, I think unetbootin is available for MAC
[03:44] <jbuncher> Jordan_U, wgrant : yeah, myth doesn't get updates anymore, just terrified of upgrading, as the mythdatabase format changed from dapper to hardy, and that can always be awful.
[03:45] <ianm_> jimhill: maybe something here http://www.google.com/search?q=create+ubuntu+usb+osx :D
[03:45] <trampel> dksoba: or you can do as was suggested and just examine your bash history, if you're running bash (and i'm sure you are, yes?)
[03:45] <jbuncher> losha, indeed.  Those database changes can be horrible.  And since myth currently *works* and is all firewalled, upgrading it from dapper isn't a priority for me, until I get a weekend where I want to deal with backing up the database and such.
[03:45] <ayman> am already installed karmic i mean how to make live cd frome  ubuntu karmic      like backup for all sys
[03:45] <losha> jbuncher: understand completely. No tv? Manageable. No dvr? Disaster...
[03:45] <Bsims> I can't get my system bell to beep nor turn on my numlock/caplock leds
[03:45] <OzFalcon> jimhill, Sory it doesn't
[03:45] <Guest28155> hello, how can I install grub so that it detects all the distributions I have in my pc? I tried the standard way, but it does not detect all the distributions I have. What can I do?
[03:45] <princem> I checked.. they are the same.. was I supposed to download a different iso? I see there are some for notebooks
[03:45] <princem> I got the desktop version (i think)
[03:46] <UBlondie> Hi, I'm back ....I'm still not convinced that Ubuntu should be having a problem with an ext usb harddrive. Western Digital harddrive has NO problems on Windows or Mac, but Ubuntu just doesn't want to know about it!  Fresh install of Ubuntu 9.10
[03:46] <jimhill> ianm: Thanks.  I am one of those people with the rare disability that I cannot find the proper combination of search terms for The Gooogle.
[03:46] <ayman> need help
[03:46] <OzFalcon> princem, When you boot from the cd. It has a check cd option. you cant do that?
[03:46] <ayman> help here
[03:46] <soreau> !help!
[03:46] <princem> it has a check disk option, install ubuntu, check memory, and a few other things
[03:46] <ayman> any body help me
[03:46] <princem> I will look again
[03:47] <soreau> ! anybody
[03:47] <stealth-> !ask | grep ayman
[03:47] <stealth-> opps, i'm too used to bash pipes lol :/
[03:47] <ayman> how make live cd from my karmic
[03:47] <MoTec> https://bugs.launchpad.net/desktop-switcher/+bug/322465 well, heck.. they say they've removed it from the repositories because there is another option for switching.. but they don't say how to switch!
[03:48] <soreau> stealth-: It still worked ;)
[03:48] <dksoba> trampel, yes
[03:48] <akahn786> Any here ever installed Ubuntu Remix on an older laptop, like a Dell Latitude C600?
[03:48] <Jordan_U> jbuncher: I am definitely looking foreward to the day when btrfs is stable and you can just roll back an upgrade in a second
[03:48] <losha> ayman: it's always seemed to me to be a lot of work, but see the following:
[03:48] <losha> !remaster | ayman
[03:48] <OzFalcon> MoTec, Great...... And they don't give the other option or hint of it do they?
[03:48] <MoTec> OzFalcon: "forge.net/ or http://linux.dell
[03:48] <jbuncher> Jordan_U, that would be quite nice.  Unfortunately I'll have to upgrade my dapper box before that happens :)
[03:48] <dksoba> trampel, yes bash history is what i needed, thanks
[03:48] <MoTec> OzFalcon: sorry, bad paste :)
[03:49] <ayman> ok thanks sir
[03:49] <MoTec> OzFalcon: "We recommend not using desktop-switcher anymore; this was only provided to accommodate for poorly supported graphics cards. In karmic+1 we should provide a different mean of switching between the two types of sessions."
[03:49] <Jordan_U> jbuncher: You can upgrade to btrfs from ext3 in place, so you would only have to upgrade the kernel ;)
[03:49] <jbuncher> Hey, technical question.  Do the servers/repositories still exists for the EOL-d distros, like edgy/breezy/etc?
[03:49] <Bsims> I found out how to get my system to beep... I had to sudo modprobe pcspkr its blacklisted
[03:49] <trampel> dksoba: i didn't suggest it initially.  there was someone else (scrolled off now) that was smarter  ;)
[03:49] <Jester05> hey guys, i have a question for you all regarding filesystems
[03:49] <Bsims> Mentioning it in the damnemd changelogs would have been nice
[03:49] <OzFalcon> MoTec, ok.
[03:50] <jimhill> Thanks, all.  G'night!
[03:50] <Bsims>  I found out how to get my system to beep... I had to sudo modprobe pcspkr its blacklisted on ubuntu
[03:50] <Jordan_U> jbuncher: Yes
[03:50] <princem> ok.. i did check disk and it said errors found in 1 files- what does that mean?? bad cd ? should i burn again?
[03:50] <Jester05> I'm trying to determine which FS i should use for a drive that will be used to store massive amounts of data, some files as large as 12-16gig
[03:50] <egoTripper88> How do i configure apcupsd to manage a usb attached Apc Back-up ups rs 900?
[03:50] <jbuncher> Jordan_U, I had enough of manually upgrading kernels back in my debian days (2.6.9 was the current kernel!) to get my via ethernet to work.
[03:50] <Jester05> I'm torn between NTFS and ext3/4 .. anyone have input
[03:50] <mdprotacio> question regarding plugging in of usb external disks.. i have to manually mount it all the time on karmic koala unlike on jaunty.. is there a way to automount it but should not be modifying fstab?
[03:50] <Jordan_U> Jester05: For what purpose?
[03:51] <MoTec> OzFalcon: Meh, I'm going to make an account and repost that question "what is the replacement for desktop-switcher"
[03:51] <Jester05> Jordan_U, read above
[03:51] <OzFalcon> MoTec, Interesting ..............UNR's launcher uses Clutter which requires a working OpenGL stack; this used to be rare, but is nowadays common. The classic desktop doesn't require GL support in anyway (falls back from compiz to metacity for window management if no GL present)
[03:51] <akahn786> I have an older laptop (Dell Latitude C600) and want to get a version of Ubuntu on there that's decently fast--any suggestions?  gOS (Ubuntu 8.04 dyrivative) won't load.  Any suggestions?
[03:51] <Jordan_U> Jester05: If you aren't going to be using it with windows then ext4
[03:51] <Jester05> large numbers of LARGE files, being accessed over my home network
[03:51] <Guest28155> how can I install grub so that it detects all the distributions I have in my pc? I tried the standard way, but it does not detect all the distributions I have. What can I do?
[03:51] <jbuncher> Jester05, I'd highly recommend against NTFS, it's not POSIX compliant, so that can mess with you.  Ext3 isn't the best for huge files, though I don't know about ext4.  I've had good luck with jfs, though you can lose data in the event of a sudden power-outage (it's journaled, but there can still be issues).
[03:52] <MoTec> OzFalcon: yes.. notice how the question above that asks a) is there an alternative... which isn't answered.
[03:52] <Cascade> To my understanding, ext4 should work well with large files, due to extents support
[03:52] <wrapster> ctmjr: could you help me
[03:52] <princem> OzFalcon : ok.. i did check disk and it said errors found in 1 files- what does that mean?? bad cd ? should i burn again?
[03:52] <memenyc> can someone help me with my grub2 issue?
[03:52] <Jester05> Hmm... maybe i should use NTFS just by default since one day I "may" want to access directly from a win machine
[03:52] <jbuncher> princem, yes
[03:52] <OzFalcon> princem, Bad burn or download.
[03:52] <Jester05> odds are everything will be accessed via samba tho
[03:53] <PingFloyd> princem: like I said, you should check the md5sum of your download
[03:53] <memenyc> I have followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and I am such a n00b
[03:53] <Jordan_U> memenyc: Only if you tell us the issue :)
[03:53] <OzFalcon> princem, if you have spare cd's - just burn again at the slowest speed. then check again.
[03:53] <losha> jbuncher: old-repositories.ubuntu.com went off the air. Not sure there are still any copies around. Did you find one?
[03:53] <princem> the md5 checked out on the iso.. i would think it's the cd.. thanks
[03:53] <jbuncher> Jester05, how would you directly access from a win machine without going through samba or ssh or something like that?
[03:53] <memenyc> jordan_u: of course
[03:53] <PingFloyd> princem: then checked the md5sum of the disk itself, if you can, otherwise do the built in integrity check
[03:54] <jbuncher> losha, no, was just curious if it was even possible to upgrade dapper to edgy (rather than hardy), even though edgy is EOL-d
[03:54] <princem> will burn again.. thanks for your help guys
[03:54] <OzFalcon> MoTec, Ummmm. I rmember reading somewhere about changeing back. But cant remember.......
[03:54] <PingFloyd> princem: if you have a linux environment to check the cd with, you can do and md5sum on /dev/cdrom
[03:54] <Jester05> jbuncher, its an esata drive.. may plug it in to a win machine or by some off chance may need to run windows on this machine.. i have it dual booting but havent been in windows in over a year.. still running xp lol
[03:54] <Jordan_U> jbuncher: It is, but why would you want to?
[03:54] <Danau> hello all
[03:54] <losha> jbuncher: that's kinda what old-repositories was for I think. I'm guessing it just used up too much space to keep around...
[03:54] <ctmjr> wrapster, i was waiting for an answer to my question you must not have seen it,<ctmjr> wrapster, sorry had to take care of something you said when you run nvidia-settings it kicks out an error you are not running the nvidia driver?
[03:54] <memenyc> I have installed windows7 (microsoft gave it to me for free (BETA v.2700) and it ruined my ubuntu
[03:54] <MoTec> OzFalcon: yeah, he touches on changing back... rm -rf ~/.gconf
[03:54] <Guest28155> memenyc: what is the problem you have with grub?
[03:55] <than0> Does anyone know how to use okteta hex editor?
[03:55] <memenyc> I have played with the grub and I am a bit confused
[03:55] <jbuncher> princem, this link should tell you how to run an md5sum check on your download, so you can see if that is good (rather than wasting another cd with a bad download).  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[03:55] <OzFalcon> MoTec, No. This was some info on the UNR ubuntu site.
[03:55] <Guest28155> memenyc: confused in what way?
[03:55] <PingFloyd> memenyc: are you chainloading grub, or chainloading windows?
[03:55] <wrapster> yes I am...
[03:55] <wrapster> btw how do i check it if its runnig or not?
[03:55] <MoTec> OzFalcon: there is a special UNR site?  link please :)
[03:55] <edyros> hola
[03:55] <memenyc> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[03:55] <Danau> I downloaded and burned the ISO for Ubuntu 9.10 but it won't get past the main menu
[03:55] <memenyc> /dev/sda1               1       36509   293258511   83  Linux
[03:55] <memenyc> /dev/sda2           36510       72982   292969372+  83  Linux
[03:55] <jbuncher> Jordan_U, just said I was curious :)  Also figure the dapper-edgy upgrade path might be more tested than dapper-hardy
[03:55] <memenyc> /dev/sda3           72983       73955     7815622+   5  Extended
[03:56] <FloodBot3> memenyc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:56] <memenyc> /dev/sda4   *       73956       80416    51893248    7  HPFS/NTFS
[03:56] <gluonman> I'm trying to reinstall grub after installing Windows 7 (dual-boot with Ubuntu). I'm having difficulties with grub-install. I've pasted my fdisk -l and grub device-map information here http://paste.ubuntu.com/308174/ .
[03:56] <memenyc> /dev/sda5           72983       73955     7815591   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[03:56] <whoDat_> how do i start X using a different config file than default xorg.conf?
[03:56] <Danau> anyone see this behavior before?
[03:56] <jbuncher> jbuncher, ok, thanks.
[03:56] <jbuncher> !pastebin > memenyc
[03:56] <MoTec> memenyc: not everyone wants to see that..
[03:56] <Jordan_U> jbuncher: Definitely not, the Dapper > Hardy is much better tested
[03:56] <Guest28155> PingFloyd: I have issues with grub as well, I need it to recognize all my current distributions, but it does not detect all of them. Any idea on how to fix it?
[03:57] <jbuncher> Jester05, ah ok.  Can an ext4 system be mounted ext3?
[03:57] <ctmjr> wrapster, run this egrep "Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:57] <Jordan_U> Guest28155: grub legacy or grub2?
[03:57] <fysik> bt4 ftw - used unet to load to usb - ran install script... so far so good
[03:57] <spunky166> hi guys - i just upgraded to 9.10 and am having problems with my Atheros wifi card - it's using the ath5k driver and everything is super slow and laggy ... any suggestions?
[03:57] <Sirisian> Guest28155, even after you run sudo update-grub?
[03:57] <PingFloyd> do you have grub installed to the MBR or to the partition?
[03:57] <jbuncher> Jordan_U, really?  Ok.  I would have thought differently, just given the number of users that would have upgraded to edgy compared to waiting for hardy.
[03:58] <DeaD_LocK> lol
[03:58] <memenyc> I will come back... I am a bit overwhelmed but next time I will use the paste.ubuntu.com
[03:58] <jacquesdupontd> hi
[03:58] <wrapster> ctmjr: (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//vesa_drv.so
[03:58] <jacquesdupontd> i would like to change the frequency of my processor
[03:58] <jacquesdupontd> but it's impossible on KARMIC
[03:58] <OzFalcon> MoTec, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR
[03:58] <Guest28155> Sirisian: yes
[03:58] <memenyc> exit
[03:58] <jacquesdupontd> we can't dpkg reconfigure gnome-applets
[03:58] <Jester05> jbuncher, please explain?
[03:58] <jacquesdupontd> ANY CLUE ?
[03:58] <jbuncher> Danau, what do you mean by "main menu", can you describe it?
[03:58] <jacquesdupontd> oops sorry
[03:58] <FloodBot3> jacquesdupontd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:58] <jacquesdupontd> any clue ?
[03:58] <Guest28155> Jordan_U: how can I tell which one I have installes?
[03:59] <DeaD_LocK> Hey can you get windows live messenger on linux ubuntu ..... ?
[03:59] <Jordan_U> jbuncher: Much more formal testing by Canonical and Ubuntu devs is done for LTS to LTS, Edgy was a short cycle nightmare, and with all of the new users we have since edgy it might have even been done more :)
[03:59] <DeaD_LocK> Anyone ?
[03:59] <Guest28155> PingFloyd: I have it installed to the mbr
[03:59] <MoTec> OzFalcon: Thanks.. My searching had taken me to part of that before.
[03:59] <jbuncher> Jester05, well, I know that ext3 filesystems can be mounted as ext2.  If the same holds for ext4 ( can be mounted as ext3), then you could install an ext3 driver in windows and access the ext4 filesystem that way.
[03:59] <Ed54> DeaCon: there are other clients you can use that support the msn network
[03:59]  * Avash off
[03:59] <than0> Which "operand" in binary filter should I chose to Encrypt in XOR under "OKTETA" thanks?
[03:59] <jbuncher> Jordan_U, oh right, forgot about the July -> October cycle.
[04:00] <spunky166> can anyone help out with the atheros drivers question? what happened with the restricted drivers that were in 9.04 - those used to work great
[04:00] <Jester05> jbuncher, very nice..
[04:00] <Jester05> jbuncher, I'll have to look into that later..
[04:00] <Guest28155> DeaD_LocK: there is a version similar to live msng called amsn or emesene
[04:00] <jbuncher> Jester05, I don't know if that's possible though.  ext4 might not be backwards compatible like that.  I do know there is an ext2/3 driver for windows, and it works pretty well.  Maybe they'll have an ext4 one soon?
[04:00] <MoTec> OzFalcon: Going to call it a night.. Thanks being a good sounding board :)
[04:01] <OzFalcon> MoTec, Yeah. I think I must have read something in here. https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/netbook-remix
[04:01] <DeaD_LocK> Yeah I am using them at the moment but I perfer WLM
[04:01] <OzFalcon> MoTec, Ok. Chow.
[04:01] <Cascade> jbuncher: ext4 has some features not present in ext3, so it's unlikely that an ext3 driver is going to work properly
[04:01] <Jester05> jbuncher, just out of curiosity ... why are you against ntfs
[04:01] <MoTec> Ciao :)
[04:01] <Guest28155> DeaD_LocK: I don't think it exists
[04:02] <DeaD_LocK> Okay,thanks :)
[04:02] <garbanzalo> Hello I have a question about init.d
[04:02] <jacquesdupontd> it makes 10 times that i come today and nobody is never answering me and most of the time it's for simple changes of karmic that i can't guess
[04:02] <jacquesdupontd> Could someone please ty to help me ?
[04:02] <Guest28155> what is the difference between grub legacy and grub2?
[04:02] <jacquesdupontd> i would like to change the frequency of my PROC
[04:02] <jacquesdupontd> by gnome applets
[04:02] <ctmjr> wrapster, it makes no sense your xorg file has nvidia but it is loading the vesa driver what card do you have and where did you get the 180 driver from?
[04:02] <garbanzalo> My mydsql daemon suddenly has stopped starting at startup. I have to start it using sudo /etc/init/d/mysql start
[04:02] <OzFalcon> MoTec, One last thought. Check under user settings.....
[04:02] <jacquesdupontd> and to keep the value after reboots, but reconfigure gnome-applets doesn't work
[04:02] <garbanzalo> I verified it is already in rc3.d
[04:03] <ari_stress> how do i download older ubuntu? the website only direct me to 9.10
[04:03] <Razaroth> How many Windows programs/games are compatible with UBUNTU?
[04:03] <buju> hey i need help  my xinit is not working
[04:03] <wrapster> apt-get install nvidia-180-kernel-source
[04:03] <garbanzalo> I am using ubuntu 9.10
[04:03] <buju> with this upgrade
[04:03] <The_Journey> Why does my kubuntu keeps hanging randomly? Like one moment everything works fine, then the next nothing works, I have to press my power down button to shut the computer down
[04:03] <wrapster> ctmjr: thats how i got the driver.
[04:03] <MoTec> OzFalcon: yeah.. looked thru every menu :)
[04:03] <Guest_348> Oh no! Holy syntactic sugar, Batman! Using -> for method calls is really
[04:03] <Guest_348>  just a shortcut:
[04:03] <Guest_348> \layout LyX-Code
[04:03] <OzFalcon> MoTec, Perhaps this is a waiting for the bug fix time.
[04:03] <buju> so how do i get kde or gnome working
[04:04] <jbuncher> Jester05, It's an MS-only filesystem, and doesn't support the POSIX way of dealing with file permissions and users and groups and such, so if that sort of thing is important there could be issues.  Also, to my knowledge there isn't a file system check utility (like scandisk or chkdsk in windows) for ntfs in linux.  There are some rudimentary tools to fix issues with the journal, but that's it.
[04:04] <MoTec> OzFalcon: yes, feels that way.
[04:04] <MrSchmo> any information on how to fix ubuntu unable to access windows 7 shares?
[04:04] <ctmjr> wrapster, did you change the xorg.conf to nvidia?
[04:04] <wrapster> ctmjr: no
[04:04] <wrapster> it was already present when i opened up the file
[04:04] <OzFalcon> MoTec, (Personaly) I think ubuntu should be on a 12mth release cycle. Less bugs I'd recon.
[04:04] <jbuncher> Jester05, so basically, if something goes wrong you might be dependent on windows tools to get the data back, and I've found that's always a *horrible* position to be in.  Better to use filesystems that play nicer with linux.
[04:05] <The_Journey> Why does my kubuntu keeps hanging randomly? Like one moment everything works fine, then the next nothing works, I have to press my power down button to shut the computer down
[04:05] <Guest28155> Sirisian: could you help me? do you know how can I make grub get all the distributions I have in my pc?
[04:05] <PingFloyd> OzFalcon: I wouldn't mind if they went with the "when it's ready" release strategy
[04:05] <buju> how do i get my kde or gnome working  it says suspioucs root
[04:05] <OzFalcon> PingFloyd, That would be good too.
[04:05] <Jester05> jbuncher, thank you.. I've been trying to find a straight forward reasoning for a while now lol finally did
[04:05] <ctmjr> wrapster, look in the main menu under System > Administration > hardware drivers and see if anything is listed
[04:05] <DeaD_LocK> Can you play games on linux ubuntu everytime I try nothing happens even with wine =/
[04:06] <dooglus> !psp
[04:06] <bastidrazor> PingFloyd: if you feel that way why upgrade when they first release?.
[04:06] <wrapster> ctmjr: yes what is listed is the 180-kernel-source
[04:06] <dooglus> anyone know how to open .psp images in ubuntu?  (paint shop pro format)
[04:06] <wrapster> ctmjr: but earlier when i used the gui to install it .. it used to hang... so i did it via cmd line...
[04:06] <Sirisian> Guest28155, well update-grub looks at all the ones in /boot/ which are all of the kernels. Another way to see the ones you've installed is in the package manager and search for "linux-image". If that's not what you mean then I'm not sure.
[04:06] <PingFloyd> bastidrazor: I usually use debian, but decided to take ubuntu for a spin a little ways back
[04:07] <Sirisian> Guest28155, locate linux-image might find all of the kernels? I'm not really that saavy with linux though.
[04:07] <OzFalcon> bastidrazor, When Joe blow burns a CD. It's still going to have bugs in it. 1 day after release or 3 months. Causing a bad 1st impression.
[04:07] <wrapster> ctmjr: and at the bottom...it says that "this driver is currently installed and in use"
[04:07] <karex> HI, all. My empathy cannot connect to the server, can u help me??
[04:07] <PingFloyd> bastidrazor: jaunty worked fine(maybe because I installed it late), but karmic seems to have some issues
[04:07] <jbuncher> Jester05, yeah, as good as the NTFS support is, I've just never been comfortable using it a lot for those reasons.  Then again, I don't need to share many big files between my linux/win installs like you were saying (esata or something), so I haven't really had to deal with the issue.
[04:07] <Guest28155> Sirisian: the problem is that I have different distributions in different partitions.
[04:07] <ctmjr> wrapster, how long did it hang? jockey usually takes awhile what graphics card dod you have
[04:07] <buju> sirisian how do i get my kde or gnome working it says suspious root   when i type startx ?
[04:08] <wrapster> ctmjr: about 20mins
[04:08] <Sirisian> buju, no idea
[04:08] <Sirisian> Guest28155, can't help you then. I've never used partitions with linux yet :\
[04:08] <wrapster> ctmjr: so i did not use the gui...... secondly system-->adm-->hardware ... actually says that the driver is installed and is in use...
[04:08] <jbuncher> OzFalcon, agreed, that's why I like the LTS releases with the "point" releases to the installer.  Very nice idea.
[04:08] <PingFloyd> besides, a main release should work out of the box, otherwise it should be called testing or beta etc.
[04:09] <OzFalcon> jbuncher, Yes. ubuntu's redeeming release feature!
[04:09] <jbuncher> PingFloyd, funny, I had the opposite experience (issues with jaunty, karmic working great)
[04:09] <Jester05> jbuncher, alright thanks.. see the thing is I have a 1T drive thats connected to my pc via esata.  I'm sharing it across my home network via linux share and samba server.  For the time being I see no need to ever plug directly into a win machine however I cannot promise that as I have windows installed on this machine even.  & If I use this take data to my friends they may be running win :-\
[04:09] <Animagladius> Night
[04:10] <PingFloyd> jbuncher: the issue I'm having with karmic is a real stumper
[04:10] <sodium82> This is a joke right? Whats with all the tooltips! Looks like a toy os and not linux.
[04:10] <chang> i have aproble with remastersys programe its not work on ubuntu 9.10
[04:10] <DeaD_LocK> does anyone know how to change the ubuntu logo on the start menu to a mac one ..... ?
[04:10] <PingFloyd> jbuncher: I pretty much tried everything
[04:10] <amoe> Hi, in ubuntu if you make changes to /boot/grub/menu.lst do you still need to run grub-install to apply them?
[04:10] <jbuncher> OzFalcon, I wish they did something like that for the non-LTS ones as well.  If only once, say 4 months after the initial release or so, just to fix up some critical release bugs and the installer if needed.
[04:10] <OzFalcon> PingFloyd, what was issue?
[04:10] <princem> yup.. it was a bad cd.. typical noobie (me)
[04:10] <PingFloyd> OzFalcon: can't get fglrx driver to work right
[04:10] <ctmjr> wrapster, ok make a backup of your xorg.conf file sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak1
[04:10] <jbuncher> PingFloyd, what's the issue.
[04:11] <PingFloyd> OzFalcon: worked perfect in jaunty though
[04:11] <losha> princem: you're not the first. Nor will you be the last...
[04:11] <OzFalcon> jbuncher, yeah. Woudlnt be hard would it.
[04:11] <chang> why remastersys not work on ubuntu 9.10 any help for it
[04:11] <bastidrazor> OzFalcon: if joe blow wants to stay computer stupid then let him enjoy his bad first impression.  it is impossible to have every install work perfectly.
[04:11] <PingFloyd> tried both latest download from ati and the one from "hardware drivers"
[04:11] <OzFalcon> bastidrazor, Go away with that attitude.
[04:11] <bastidrazor> PingFloyd: every release has some issues. it is only human.
[04:11] <PingFloyd> bastidrazor: yeah
[04:12] <jbuncher> OzFalcon, I think it's just a matter of resources.  They'd have to test the new point release, collect everything together for it, etc.  I'm sure it's more work than is currently worth it to them.
[04:12] <buju> how do i fix a /tmp/.X11-unix and it says suspious root andwont let me startx my xserver
[04:12] <bastidrazor> OzFalcon: have a more open mind.
[04:12] <Razaroth> !help
[04:12] <dooglus> ubuntu is human?
[04:12] <MrSchmo> any information on how to fix ubuntu unable to access windows 7 shares?
[04:12] <dooglus> anyone know how to open .psp images in ubuntu?  (paint shop pro format)
[04:12] <macravin> Ubuntu is the most human os right
[04:12] <jmcantrell> how do i generate a default xorg.conf?
[04:12] <macravin> I guess that's what they mean
[04:12] <andbelo> I have an issue with keyborad: In mysql-client 5.1 (only), the delete key generates a tilde (~). Is there a way to fix that?
[04:12] <Razaroth> Could someone please tell me some simple !things to write here, so that i could read as to the auxilary information? EX: !psp
[04:12] <chang> can you help me sir
[04:13] <migg137> want to change pannel theme..... what is an easy way
[04:13] <buju> !help
[04:13] <migg137> thanks
[04:13] <MrSchmo> any info on how to fix ubuntu unable to access windows 7 shares. i get Error: Failed to retrieve share list from server.
[04:13] <macravin> Ubuntu is human in the way that it is temperamental and obnoxious
[04:13] <macravin> like most humans
[04:13] <cxo> I have 8.04 on my laptop, And I want to convert it to Netbook remix version. Can i do it with apt-get?
[04:13] <OzFalcon> jbuncher, Yeah. Thats also true. But surely an auto iso builder could be made. Same way it's released by day build prior to release. (rc?)
[04:13] <jbuncher> macravin, stop the trolling please.
[04:13] <macravin> and it doesn't install properly, because it's human
[04:13] <macravin> ok
[04:13] <jbuncher> dooglus, did you try the gimp?
[04:13] <PingFloyd> I think it is a good goal to release every 6 months, but sometimes I think it forces them to serve the wine before it is time, there's so many thing that can prevent everything from falling into place on time
[04:14] <jason__> hello
[04:14] <losha> Razaroth: you can read them all at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=repo
[04:14] <dooglus> jbuncher: yeah.  she doesn't like it
[04:14] <macravin> goodbye world
[04:14] <bastidrazor> jmcantrell:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg  ..should create one
[04:14] <Razaroth> Thank you losha.
[04:14] <spunky166> guys, can anyone help with atheros drivers under 9.10? the ath5k is working but very slow
[04:15] <OzFalcon> PingFloyd, Agreed. 6 months is a good goal. But I also think 12 months is a more practical goal.
[04:15] <merma> is there some good gnome + tiling integration?
[04:15] <jbuncher> OzFalcon, yeah, but I think for the official releases they like things a bit more locked down than the daily builds.  That's why the beta and rc freezes go into effect a while before the actual releases, things need to settle down so they can get the iso to work nicely.
[04:15] <spunky166> and madwifi seems to not compile with the 2.6.31 kernel headers due to naming collision
[04:15] <wrapster> ctmjr: ok done
[04:15] <DeaD_LocK> could some one connect to my channel please so i know i have set it up right it's #Deadlock
[04:15] <losha> PingFloyd: time based release is kind of like the 'Lucy & Ethel at the Chocolate Factory' episode
[04:16] <OzFalcon> jbuncher, I think 10.04 LTS will be nice. 8.04 was a bit lacking - But very stable.
[04:16] <ctmjr> wrapster, ok now run sudo nvidia-xconfig --force-generate and see if it kicks out any errors
[04:17] <Sirisian> I know include/linux/sched.h has the task_struct, but where are the defaults set when a new process is created?
[04:17] <Blue1> on a whole 9.10 is the buggiest release of ubuntu I've experienced.
[04:17] <jbuncher> OzFalcon, I'm very pleased to see that they'll be syncing with debian testing for 10.04, sticking with the latest Gnome 2, and going with a stability rather than feature release.  It really didn't seem like that's what they did with hardy, given the move to pulseaudio.
[04:17] <wrapster> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup';;;;  New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[04:17] <om26er> Blue1: plz do a clean install to avoid many problems
[04:17] <wrapster> ctmjr: Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup';;;;New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[04:17] <Blue1> om26er: i did
[04:17] <om26er> whats the bug
[04:17] <losha> OzFalcon: You know the old saying: feature, stability, on-time: you can have any *two* out of three...
[04:17] <javatexan> can you make a bootable ubuntu iso of a current hard drive?  assuming it will fit on dvd?
[04:18] <OzFalcon> losha, ;-)
[04:18] <Blue1> om26er: hang on I'll point you to one..
[04:18] <bjsnider> jbuncher, you're no fun
[04:18] <om26er> Blue1: have an old computer?
[04:18] <jbuncher> bjsnider, why?
[04:18] <Blue1> om26er: a year old?  http://www.pkill-9.com/wayno/pics/linux_9.10_weird.png
[04:18] <ctmjr> wrapster, now reboot or restart x by logging out then back in
[04:19] <buju> i  get a error message  when i type startx it says supious root  /tmp/.X11-unix
[04:19] <buju> can anyone help
[04:19] <rdg123> hello everyone
[04:19] <wrapster> ctmjr: ok...
[04:19] <om26er> Blue1: disable compiz and see if it help
[04:19] <Blue1> buju: did you try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?
[04:19] <Blue1> om26er: not running compiz
[04:19] <PingFloyd> the ultimate distro would be debian without DSFG policy imho
[04:19] <OzFalcon> Im off. C U Everyone.
[04:19] <buju> no
[04:20] <Blue1> buju: try that ---
[04:20] <buju> ok
[04:20] <om26er> Blue1: these kind of truobles come when hardrive is very busy and you try to perform things....what are the spexificationsof your system
[04:20] <jbuncher> losha, tried out gnome-shell much at all?
[04:20] <bjsnider> jbuncher, using it right now
[04:20] <wrapster> ctmjr: worked...
[04:21] <bjsnider> it's great
[04:21] <wrapster> thanks a lot for spending time...
[04:21] <jacquesdupontd> please people
[04:21] <Blue1> om26er: well succinctly I.ve an hp dual core amd system  with an nvidia card, and 2 g of ram
[04:21] <buju> ok let me try that
[04:21] <buju> brb
[04:21] <jacquesdupontd> How do we reconfigure gnome applet on karmic
[04:21] <Xiella> Bye everyone, thanks
[04:21] <jacquesdupontd> doesn't works like brefore
[04:21] <rdg123> I have a problem after using the upgrade feature from 9.04 to 9.10. It will no longer boot and says it cannot mount the volume and goes to some strange prompt..Taget file system doesn't have /sbin/init
[04:21] <rdg123> no init found, Try passing init=bootarg
[04:21] <rdg123> Busybox v1.10.2 (ubuntu 1:1.10.2-1 ubuntu7) built in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built in commands
[04:21] <rdg123> (initramfs)
[04:21] <losha> jbuncher: sorry. I don't run any gnome/nautilus stuff. Just fvwm....
[04:21] <FloodBot3> rdg123: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:21] <ctmjr> wrapster, all better now flicker is gone?
[04:21] <wrapster> ctmjr: yeah... no flicker
[04:21] <jbuncher> losha, ok
[04:21] <jacquesdupontd> jbuncher, could you help me ?
[04:22] <jbuncher> bjsnider, any idea if there's a way to get the taskbar back?  (the thing with the window tabs)
[04:22] <jacquesdupontd> jbuncher, im trying to find a simple help, reconfigure gnome applets so i can set my proc value
[04:22] <ctmjr> wrapster, good to hear have fun and your welcome
[04:22] <DeaD_LocK> Anyone play ffr here ......... ?
[04:22] <jbuncher> jacquesdupontd, sorry, I don't nkow much about that.
[04:22] <bjsnider> jbuncher, it is not needed
[04:22] <simone> ciao
[04:22] <PingFloyd> jbuncher: try gnome-panel from terminal
[04:22] <simone> !list
[04:22] <bjsnider> wrapster, could you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[04:22] <wrapster> ctmjr: thanks .. but now i have to battle yet another issue with skype installation...
[04:22] <PingFloyd> jbuncher: been awhile, but I think that will bring it back if my memory serves me
[04:22] <wrapster> ctmjr: would you be interested in helping me?
[04:23] <jacquesdupontd> jbuncher, launch gnome-panel
[04:23] <rdg123> anyone else have that issue after upgrading to 9.10?
[04:23] <jbuncher> bjsnider, needed and wanted are two different things :)  I like to be able to click on my windows in the taskbar to switch between them
[04:23] <jacquesdupontd> jbuncher, prefer alt+F2 and type gnome-panel
[04:23] <S_A> Hi! I am trying to upgrade my system from 9.04 to 9.10 using (Auto upgrade process from Admin menu). The whole upgrade process seemed to work beautifully apart from 2 errors I got. (dahdi-dkms exit status 7 and ttf-mscorefonts-installer exit status 1). But now as soon as restarted the system. it seems to be giving problem. X is giving issues. as soon as ubuntu standard new boot screen tries to pass control to login screen, display br
[04:23] <jbuncher> gnome-panel
[04:23] <jbuncher> Cannot register the panel shell: there is already one running.
[04:23] <DeaD_LocK> Does anyone know how to change the ubuntu 9.04 logo on the start menu to a mac logo ?
[04:23] <bjsnider> jbuncher, then don't use gnome-shell. you use gnome-shell in lieu of that
[04:23] <jacquesdupontd> PingFloyd, please could you help me
[04:23] <PingFloyd> jacquesdupontd: what problem are you having?
[04:23] <Blue1> om26er: this is the video card I have"  00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)  I flopped back to the 173 driver, because the 185 driver was causing way way too many lockups....
[04:23] <Blue1>  
[04:24] <Ozzah> How do I find the size of a bunch of folders from the command line. I don't want the size of all folders, I'll be using a regex to identify which folders I want to aggregate
[04:24] <jacquesdupontd> PingFloyd, just little thing before my ubuntu is perfect, i would like to set my cpu freq
[04:24] <princem> why would you want a mac logo lol
[04:24] <ctmjr> wrapster, wish i could but know nothing about skype
[04:24] <doltek> What is the closest program to winamp with Ubuntu?
[04:24] <merma> i hate that ubuntu is so buggy handling proxies
[04:24] <jbuncher> bjsnider, was just wondering if there was a way to do both.  I really like some of the things in gnome-shell, just want that taskbar back.
[04:24] <DeaD_LocK> They look good at the moment i have a foot as the logo =/
[04:24] <Dancho> audacios
[04:24] <PingFloyd> jacquesdupontd: as in cpu frequency scaling?
[04:24] <wrapster> ctmjr: ok no problem.. thanks
[04:24] <Subdub> Hey all, I have a problem with gParted. I want to enlarge my current partition, although when I try, it has pre-determined the maximum size, which I cannot change. I have a 10GB 'unallocated' partition, how do I force it to use this space?
[04:24] <Dancho> audacious is almost like wimap
[04:24] <jacquesdupontd> PingFloyd, before we used to reconfigure gnome applet so the settings are back after reboot
[04:24] <Blue1> Ozzah: ls -l
[04:25] <om26er> Blue1: try 190 might help you
[04:25] <jacquesdupontd> PingFloyd, i'm talking about the gnome-applets to scale proc
[04:25] <bjsnider> jbuncher, switch windows using the mouse action top left corner. that will display all windows for you
[04:25] <doltek> what is the termonal command to get it?
[04:25] <Blue1> om26er: is is in the repos?
[04:25] <buju> it said segmention fault blue 1  sudo should be 1001 not 0
[04:25] <S_A> I can do ssh in system. Display is giving issues
[04:25] <jacquesdupontd> PingFloyd, im on karmic and sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets is not doing anything
[04:25] <Dancho> yes .. is there
[04:25] <om26er> Blue1: no, use ppa
[04:25] <princem> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-477133.html
[04:25] <Blue1> om26er: I don't have the url for that...
[04:25] <jbuncher> bjsnider, yeah, that works pretty well.  still want a taskbar though :  Oh well, it's an early version, not feature complete yet.
[04:26] <Pringles> hi can anyone help me with a wacom tablet? http://yfrog.com/0kwacomprobg sums up my problem
[04:26] <bjsnider> wrapster, you xorg.conf file please
[04:26] <PingFloyd> jacquesdupontd: is the applet on your panel?
[04:26] <rdg123> I have a problem after using the upgrade feature from 9.04 to 9.10. It will no longer boot and says it cannot mount the volume and goes to some strange prompt..Taget file system doesn't have /sbin/init
[04:26] <PingFloyd> jacquesdupontd: or is it that it is missing?
[04:26] <Subdub> GParted Question: I have a problem with gParted. I want to enlarge my current partition, although when I try, it has pre-determined the maximum size, which I cannot change. I have a 10GB 'unallocated' partition, how do I force it to use this space?
[04:26] <buju> blue1 what should it say after i type that in ?
[04:26] <om26er> Blue1: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nvidia-vdpau/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-et dist-upgrade
[04:26] <borisstrajnar> There is something strange after upgrading to 9.10 wubi in windows 7.............i have to push recover to her boot options windows and ubuntu.....if not,   screen just flickers black but ok i figured it out luckily i you did not:) Now i have another problem. In Firefox i cannot watch flash movies or see flash banners....but in Opera i do. SOme linking with some shit probably....any simple solution? (And yeah 9.10 is nice:)
[04:26] <Ozzah> BlueJ: Any way to total them up?
[04:26] <jacquesdupontd> PingFloyd, it's on my panel it's working to change the frequency but doesn't take it after reboot
[04:27] <wrapster> bjsnider: http://pastie.org/681068
[04:27] <AOC> can I have a .sh script which sources a single library.sh ??
[04:27] <Blue1> buju: it might give you a scripting error message but it will restart the graphics display manager and give you a login screen
[04:27] <jacquesdupontd> PingFloyd, it's reallly really known problem that was quite easy to fix before but on karmic many things changed
[04:27] <AOC> if so what is this called?
[04:27] <buju> ok
[04:27] <bjsnider> om26er, i'm currently updating that paa, so i'd stay away from it for tonight
[04:27] <buju> thanks
[04:27] <om26er> borisstrajnar: 64bit?
[04:27] <buju> brb
[04:27] <bjsnider> om26er, ppa i mean
[04:27] <bostongeek24> somehow the update manager has disappeared from my system i can no longer see the icon listed under system
[04:27] <PingFloyd> jacquesdupontd: not sure
[04:27] <Ozzah> Blue1: Any way to total them up?
[04:27] <borisstrajnar> yap
[04:27] <AOC> anyone?
[04:27] <jacquesdupontd> PingFloyd, many things like that are boring
[04:27] <jacquesdupontd> PingFloyd, if you think you don't know i have another question you could maybe answer
[04:27] <Pringles> anyone?
[04:28] <jacquesdupontd> PingFloyd, do you use cairo-dock ?
[04:28] <applecore2000> Just want to say been on Linux for 6 hours now and its AWESOME lol
[04:28] <Blue1> Ozzah: I dunno -- I've never doe that with nautilus it's easy
[04:28] <borisstrajnar> om26er yes 64 bit
[04:28] <PingFloyd> jacquesdupontd: nope, haven't use that one
[04:28] <om26er> bjsnider: will it works if he installs
[04:28] <hellyes> HELP! I have an ubuntu machine and a windows 7 machine networked.  I have a shared external drive on the windows 7 machine, but no matter what I do, even though I can see the shared drive, when I try to access that drive from ubuntu a dialogue box with an error comes up: "unable to mount location.....failed to retrieve share list from server".  My windows firewall is turned off too, btw. Does anybody have any ideas?
[04:28] <rsk> applecore2000 soon you will wake up and realise it's a dream
[04:28] <inx-mdg> applecore2000: cool!
[04:28] <Ozzah> Blue1: Yeah, but I'm doing it on a remote computer through ssh - so Nautilus isn't an option
[04:28] <bostongeek24> hello???
[04:28] <bostongeek24> can i get some help??
[04:28] <bjsnider> om26er, i suppose, but the drivers in there are being replaced
[04:29] <om26er> borisstrajnar: 64BIT AND FLASH ARE NOT RALLY GOOD FRIENDS
[04:29] <lstarnes> om26er: you don't need caps
[04:29] <Blue1> Ozzah: df will show you what's in use and what's free for the volume
[04:29] <merma> bostongeek24, no
[04:29] <rsk> needs moar caps
[04:29] <inx-mdg> bostongeek24: jump right in - what's your problem
[04:29] <KB1JWQ> Capslock is cruise control for cool.
[04:29] <om26er> bjsnider: but might solve his problem. and then he can update again
[04:30] <Ozzah> Blue1: I figured it out using du, but still no totalling them up. nevermind, I just used a calculator - only have about 30 subfolders
[04:30] <bostongeek24> somehow the update manger has dissapperd from my system the list is no longer listed
[04:30] <bjsnider> wrapster, nice to see nvidia-xconfig still adds lots of unnecessary stuff
[04:30] <PingFloyd> Ozzah: did you try du -hs
[04:30] <rdg123> I have a problem after using the upgrade feature from 9.04 to 9.10. It will no longer boot and says it cannot mount the volume and goes to some strange prompt..Taget file system doesn't have /sbin/init, does anyone have a way to fix this so that 9.10 will mount and boot?
[04:30] <wrapster> bjsnider: hee hee.. btw could you pls help me setup skype...
[04:30] <Blue1> bostongeek24: did you try a gdm restart?
[04:30] <Ozzah> Any idea how to send a large number of directories recursively from one machine to another via command line? both machines have sftp and ssh
[04:30] <princem> installation complete, time to experience ubuntu
[04:30] <om26er> bostongeek24: sudo apt-get instaal update-manager
[04:30] <Blue1> om26er: that works too1
[04:31] <Ozzah> PingFloyd: Yes, that's what I used, but it gives the total for each folder... not the total for all folders that match the regex.
[04:31] <wrapster> bjsnider: its kinda impeartive that i get it up.. but getting a whole lot of dependency issues... unable to find a work around
[04:31] <om26er> bostongeek24: if already installed go to main menu in appearances and see
[04:31] <Blue1> Ozzah: scp -R <source> <dest>
[04:31] <bostongeek24> whats a gdm restart? and its already install somehow the icon is missing
[04:31] <jacquesdupontd> PingFloyd, for you curiosity : http://www.webupd8.org/2009/10/how-to-disable-disable-cpu-frequency.html
[04:31] <AOC> can I create a procedure in a shell script (.sh)?
[04:31] <om26er> Blue1: what what what
[04:31] <jacquesdupontd> PingFloyd, seems i'm always right it doesn't work anymore on karmic
[04:31] <PingFloyd> Ozzah: throw in -c
[04:31] <Blue1> bostongeek24: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:32] <bostongeek24> what does that do?
[04:32] <bjsnider> wrapster, did you grab the one in medibuntu?
[04:32] <wrapster> bjsnider: no... i had terrible issues with it...
[04:32] <borisstrajnar> om26er: yea i heard that and was sad until 9.10.....now it plays fantastic in opera 10.01 (never before) and not in Firefox or Chrome. They simply do not know how to handle flash files. I have somewhere to copy some shit but i forgot where to....it is not rocket science but funny it is not done once and for all:)
[04:32] <om26er> borisstrajnar: no no
[04:32] <PingFloyd> jacquesdupontd: I think there's a lot of bugs in karmic
[04:32] <jbuncher> Ozzah, could try rsync
[04:32] <Blue1> bostongeek24: gdm is the graphics dispaly manager and what it will do is restart x windows for you and give you a login screen -- that seems to fix a lot of problems for me...
[04:32] <wrapster> bjsnider: i took it from skype website
[04:32] <om26er> borisstrajnar: people use 64bit flash without problem
[04:32] <notfoo> anyone know if ATI fglrx works better in 9.04 than 9.10?
[04:32] <wrapster> but that was for 8.10 and im running 9.04
[04:33] <Ozzah> PingFloyd: so something like scp -Rc * user@domain:/dest
[04:33] <buju> blue1 i'm still getting this message /tmp/.x11-unix has suspicious ownership
[04:33] <PingFloyd> notfoo: worked better in 9.04 for me
[04:33] <hellyes> HELP! I have an ubuntu machine and a windows 7 machine networked.  I have a shared external drive on the windows 7 machine, but no matter what I do, even though I can see the shared drive, when I try to access that drive from ubuntu a dialogue box with an error comes up: "unable to mount location.....failed to retrieve share list from server".  My windows firewall is turned off too, btw. Does anybody have any ideas
[04:33] <PingFloyd> notfoo: in fact, I'm having problems with it in 9.10
[04:33] <notfoo> ya me too PingFloyd
[04:33] <nightfrog> Ozzah, you can use nautilus to login throw ssh
[04:33] <notfoo> i really like 9.10 too
[04:33] <PingFloyd> notfoo: screen will get stuck black when I logout
[04:33] <notfoo> oh well. guess i'll install 9.04 to see if that's any better
[04:33] <MrSchmo> any info on how to fix ubuntu unable to access windows 7 shares. i get Error: Failed to retrieve share list from server.
[04:33] <Ozzah> nightfrog: yes, but it takes forever to tally up the file sizes
[04:34] <Ozzah> nightfrog: which is why I wanted the remote machine to do it for me
[04:34] <PingFloyd> notfoo: end up having to use alt-sysrq combo and reboot
[04:34] <notfoo> PingFloyd: ya. same. i tried EVERY way possible to get it working. nothing.
[04:34] <Blue1> buju whos the owner of that file?
[04:34] <PingFloyd> notfoo: me too
[04:34] <hellyes> MrSchmo: I'm trying to get an answer to the same problem....
[04:34] <jacquesdupontd> PingFloyd, it's not a bug it's a different way to do it, we just have to know how to use it, i was saying the same thing after upgrading to karmic and in fact it's perfect when you know how to use it
[04:34] <buju> me
[04:34] <om26er> notfoo: using nvidia?
[04:34] <PingFloyd> notfoo: I've tried everything imagineable as well, and even the things other people mentioned
[04:34] <notfoo> PingFloyd: i have it running great on 8.04. i guess going to 9.04 will still be a nice upgrade
[04:34] <Blue1> buju: it should be root iirc
[04:34] <notfoo> no ATI.
[04:34] <PingFloyd> notfoo: I think there is a bug with karmic on that
[04:34] <buju> yes
[04:34] <S_A> Hi! in which folder pkg keeps automatically downloaded package files ?
[04:35] <notfoo> om26er: i wish. nvidia working great on 9.10 here at home
[04:35] <notfoo> i run ATI 2400XT at work for dual screens
[04:35] <buju> so how do i fix that
[04:35] <PingFloyd> notfoo: the fglrx driver worked fine for me on 9.04
[04:35] <om26er> notfoo: actually its intel here
[04:35] <Blue1> buju: not 100% fam. with that error but when you get something like that - it's usually a file ownership error
[04:35] <notfoo> PingFloyd: thx
[04:35] <PingFloyd> notfoo: your mileage may vary
[04:35] <om26er> integrated
[04:35] <notfoo> ya it will
[04:35] <PingFloyd> notfoo: definitely not working on 9.10 for me though
[04:35] <Mike_lifeguard> If you have the 64bit iso, can you "somehow" use that to install on a 32bit system?
[04:35] <notfoo> PingFloyd: what card you trying to use in 9.10 ?
[04:35] <buju> yes so how do i fix it
[04:35] <Blue1> Mike_lifeguard: yes
[04:35] <borisstrajnar> om26er: Probably some do...but as said i can use it only in Opera../i have Opera 10.01, Firefox 3.54, and Chrome 4.0.223.11/ Problem with flash only in firefox and chrome
[04:35] <Jinxed-> So i'm running 9.04 (dual booting with vista) can i safetly press this upgrade button and it not wipe all my files?
[04:35] <PingFloyd> notfoo: some people have reported to not have problems with the fglrx driver though
[04:35] <SoniC> jemand da der deutsch kann?
[04:36] <jbuncher> Jinxed-, yes but back up just in case
[04:36] <Mike_lifeguard> Blue1: So what should I do differently in the installer?
[04:36] <notfoo> PingFloyd: ya it's rare at the moment. i've been reading on it past 2 days straight. i hate ATI w/ linux :P
[04:36] <Blue1> buju: chown the file....
[04:36]  * om26er suggests that nvidia users should use the latest driver if they are facing troubles
[04:36] <Subdub> GParted Question: I have a problem with gParted. I want to enlarge my current partition, although when I try, it has pre-determined the maximum size, which I cannot change. I have a 10GB 'unallocated' partition, how do I force it to use this space?
[04:36] <PingFloyd> notfoo: at least we know it's not on our side
[04:36] <Blue1> Mike_lifeguard: what exactly do you want to do - install a 32 bit app, or?
[04:36] <buju> ok
[04:36] <Arrakis> ?DCC SEND "STARTKEYLOGGER" 0 0 0
[04:36] <tzolkin> I just upgrade my ubuntu from 9.04 to 9.10, but I can't install ATI offical driver, and the fglrx-install.log is: Errors during DKMS modules removal \n [Error] Kernel Modules: Failed to add fglrx-8.661 to DKMS
[04:36] <DeaD_LocK> So bored man
[04:36] <GatoLoko> Arrakis: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[04:36] <buju> exit
[04:37] <Mike_lifeguard> Blue1: Install the whole OS. The ISO is for 64bit, but the machine is 32bit. IS that possible?
[04:37] <notfoo> tzolkin: welcome to a world of hell. don't plan on getting it working anytime soon
[04:37] <PingFloyd> notfoo: knowing whether something is a bug, or it is just one's self is half the frustration
[04:37] <tzolkin> I just upgrade my ubuntu from 9.04 to 9.10, but I can't install ATI offical driver, and the fglrx-install.log is: Errors during DKMS modules removal \n [Error] Kernel Modules: Failed to add fglrx-8.661 to DKMS, how to fix that?
[04:37] <Blue1> Mike_lifeguard: not that I am aware - you can shoehorn 32 bit apps into a 64 bit system but not the other way around -
[04:38] <notfoo> PingFloyd: 9.04 still a pretty good upgrade from 8.04? ...if you ever used 8.04
[04:38] <Code_Bleu> after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 im getting the following error on boot.  It just flickers the following: /sbin/load_policy: Can't load policy: no such device  mount: mounting none on /selinux failed: no such device....then login prompt (but cant type anything)
[04:38] <PingFloyd> notfoo: I never had tried 8.04
[04:38] <notfoo> aw
[04:38] <Jinxed-> jbuncher: do i need to back up both partitions
[04:38] <PingFloyd> notfoo: 9.04 was first ubuntu I tried, before that I was using debian testing
[04:38] <DeaD_LocK> Alot of people on here lol
[04:38] <Jinxed-> or just the linux one
[04:38] <Code_Bleu> any ideas?  I went into the menu.lst on rescue disk and changed selinux=1 to selinux=0, but that didnt fix it either
[04:38] <stealth-> DeaD_LocK: biggest channel on freenode
[04:38] <notfoo> heh i went from 6.06 to 8.04
[04:39] <PingFloyd> notfoo: I was real pleased with 9.04
[04:39] <jbuncher> Jinxed-, it certainly won't hurt to do so, though there shouldn't be any isseus
[04:39] <PingFloyd> notfoo: and I'm pretty finicky
[04:39] <DeaD_LocK> stealth : I was going to make my own but then I thought,no one will use it to so no point :P
[04:39] <Jinxed-> jbuncher: i think i might just stay with 9.04
[04:40] <stealth-> DeaD_LocK: lol, yeah, there's pretty much a channel for everything already
[04:40] <bjsnider> wrapster, which version is the package?
[04:40] <PingFloyd> Jinxed-: yeah, you might wait a while for the kinks to get worked out
[04:40] <stealth-> I think it's ridiculous that ubuntu isn't rolling release :/
 Oh well I'm happy in this chat room relaxing lol :P
[04:40] <notfoo> PingFloyd: good to know. hope i can get it working right tomorrow
[04:40] <stealth-> heh
[04:40] <AOC> can i inforce that a users password must be greater than 7 characters?
[04:40] <notfoo> PingFloyd: would hate to have to go back to 8.04 ::eek::
[04:40] <PingFloyd> notfoo: actually there was one thing
[04:40] <AOC> enforce*
[04:40] <KB1JWQ> AOC: Yes.
[04:41] <PingFloyd> notfoo: one thing 9.04 didn't do was suspend
[04:41] <Code_Bleu> 9.04 to 9.10 upgrade...selinux issue...anyone?
[04:41] <AOC> what command would I look into?
[04:41] <AOC> KB1JWQ,
[04:41] <PingFloyd> notfoo: funny thing is karmic will suspend, but I have that logout issue described earlier
[04:41] <notfoo> PingFloyd: aw, cool. that's minor for me.
[04:41] <PingFloyd> notfoo: go figure
[04:41] <notfoo> hah, ya :p
[04:41] <Deeps> hi, if i want to install an ubuntu minimal install, but i dont want to use the server installer as I'm gonna be using X as well, but dont want the full ubuntu-desktop install, which iso should i download?
[04:41] <DesertEagle> hello all!
[04:41] <DesertEagle> pidgin's broken, please help :)
Whats the best Messenger to have on ubuntu 9.04 ?
[04:41] <syn-ack> Deeps, the alternate installer
[04:41] <DesertEagle> "Illegal Instruction (core dumped)"
[04:41] <notfoo> DesertEagle: elaborate
[04:41] <om26er> !alternate
[04:41] <rdg098> Problem: upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and now system cannot mount the volume anymore and goes to some strange prompt (initramfs) does anyone know anything about this and how to fix it please?
[04:41] <IdleOne> !minimal | Deeps
[04:42] <jbuncher> DesertEagle, how is it broken?
[04:42] <om26er> ok
[04:42] <DesertEagle> "Illegal Instruction (core dumped)"
[04:42] <nat_> hey, anyone having serious problems with 9.10? - first my 9.04 to 9.10 upgrade via the ubuntu website crashed - then when I installed 9.10 from cd - evolution would not recognize my .tar backup file from 9.04 - but when I reinstalled 9.04 it worked fine - is something wrong with 9.10?
[04:42] <DesertEagle> i'll pastebin the debug
[04:42] <quiescens> alternate installer installs everything too I think?
 : I had that problem to I just reinstalled linux ubuntu 9.04
[04:42] <KitsuneDragon> finally back on 9.04 wubi and doing updates :)
[04:42] <Deeps> IdleOne: mini.iso's no good in this case, as the machine i'm installing to will be offline for the first week or so
[04:42] <Blue1> nat_: I did a clean install - less problems in the long run
[04:42] <hellyes> Does anyone know how to resolve the ubuntu - windows 7 shares conflict? Though my windows 7 firewall is off and I can see it on the network from ubuntu, I get a dialogue box that says: unable to mount location: failed to retrieve share list from server". Please help if someone knows how to fix this
[04:42] <wrapster> bjsnider: skype-ubuntu-hardy_2.1.0.47-1_386.deb
[04:42] <om26er> nat_: no its fine
[04:43] <Timmymayes> should i be concerned if video constantly crashes?
[04:43] <Deeps> !Alternate
[04:43] <Timmymayes> vlc, mplayer both have issues :(
[04:43] <Blue1> hellyes: basic question - can the machines ping each other?
[04:43] <hellyes> yes
[04:43] <om26er> Timmymayes: which browser or talking about totem?
[04:43] <Deeps> excellent
[04:43] <Deeps> syn-ack: thanks :)
[04:43] <MrNaz_cic> http://www.pastebin.org/50424   <-- anyone know why that bash script tells me "ambiguous redirect" ?
[04:43] <Pringles> can anyone help me with a tablet problem? http://yfrog.com/0kwacomprobg sums it up
[04:43] <Blue1> hellyes: and you are using a samba share?
[04:43] <hellyes> yes
 : I find that vlc is very laggy on linux i don't know if that's just me but i use the default media player
[04:44] <Blue1> hellyes: and you set up a samba account on the linux machine?
[04:44] <hellyes> yes
[04:44] <syn-ack> Deeps, No problem
[04:44] <DesertEagle> pidgin's errors: http://pastebin.ca/1654338
[04:44] <stealth-> DeaD_LocK: messanger? I use pidgin. Works for almost every protocal. Sorry for the delayed response
[04:44] <om26er> Timmymayes: use totem its nice
[04:44] <Blue1> hellyes: what about the host files?
[04:45] <bjsnider> wrapster, if i grab the intrepid x64 package, it says all dependencies are satisfied
 you just give up on it? 9.10 wouldnt work for you at all? did you try a clean install?
The only problem with that is you can not use cam which I find a bummer,and don't worry about the late reply
[04:45] <hellyes> I'm not knowledgeable  about host files
[04:45] <stealth-> DeaD_LocK: it has no cam support at all? Or just doesn't work with your cam?
[04:46] <Blue1> hellyes: both windows and linux need away to point to each other and that is a host file on each machine - seems like when I fixed that the share worked correctly
 I did try but I found that I like 9.04 better than 9.10
[04:46] <Timmymayes> I can't use the dfault media player
[04:46] <Timmymayes> it insta crashes on loading any avi file
[04:46] <hellyes> Blue1: how do I find and set up the host file for use?
Well when people send or "try" to send me cam nothing happens on my screen,so i'm guessing it's not supported
[04:46] <ProfOak> When I try to watch youtube videos in Totem it gives me this error: GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error. How do I fix this?
[04:47] <Timmymayes> quick question...i just did the default install on ubuntu...does it make full use of a dual core?
[04:47] <functionofxy> does anyone know how to defrag ext4 in karmic? thanks.
[04:47] <Blue1> hellyes: well the linux host file is in /etc/hosts -- back it up first...
[04:47] <Pringles> Timmymayes, I think so
[04:47] <hans> does karmic have a swap?
[04:47] <stealth-> DeaD_LocK: what camera do you have?
[04:47] <Ed54> functionofxy: linux doesn't fragment
[04:47] <buildc> Is there a bug with NFS in 9.10?
[04:47] <Blue1> hellyes: I'm gonna have to do some schlepping to find out the windows guy - private message ok?
[04:47] <DeaD_LocK> stealth:
[04:47] <jbuncher> functionofxy, you should really ever need to defragment
[04:47] <hellyes> cool
[04:48] <rdg098> Problem: upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and now system cannot mount the volume anymore and goes to some strange prompt (initramfs) does anyone know anything about this and how to fix it please?
[04:48] <functionofxy> Ed54, jbuncher,  that may be true, BUT ext4 can be defragged. a major reason to do this is to get the 'extends' feature applied to files on a converted ext3 system
[04:48] <hans> jbuncher: he meant never need to defrag. ext is very sorted as is
[04:48] <DeaD_LocK> stealth: Just a shit one,nothing great but it works well when on vista =/ but now nothing on linux
[04:48] <hans> er
[04:48] <Mike_lifeguard> rdg098: it matters what the 'strange prompt' is
[04:48] <evilaim_> weird
[04:48] <Mike_lifeguard> rdg098: exact error messages if you can
[04:48] <Deeps> DeaD_LocK: if you're wanting webcam support in linux, if you're using the msn protocol, client "amsn" supports it
[04:48] <hans> functionofxy: he meant never need to defrag. ext is very sorted as is
[04:48] <syn-ack> functionofxy, extents
[04:49] <syn-ack> ;)
[04:49] <functionofxy> hans, i understand this
[04:49] <stealth-> DeaD_LocK: well I might be able to help you if you could tell me the model :P Or try Deeps solution
[04:49] <KitsuneDragon> what does my ip say when I log in could someone tell me!
[04:49] <DesertEagle> mercury supports msn webcam too
[04:49] <rdg098> @Mike the prompt is (initramfs)
[04:49] <functionofxy> syn-ack, great. extents. how do i invoke e4degrag?
[04:49] <bjsnider> functionofxy, move the files off the drive to another, then move them back
Yeah i think I will just try that
[04:49] <syn-ack> functionofxy, Dont know, I'm coming up to speed on it myself
[04:49] <hans> sorry jbuncher for highlight
[04:49] <functionofxy> !extents
[04:50] <jbuncher> hans, np
[04:50] <KitsuneDragon> what did it say?
[04:50] <functionofxy> !ext4
[04:50] <rdg098> @Mike Taget file system doesn't have /sbin/init no init found. Try passing init= bootarg
[04:50] <DesertEagle> pidgin's broken, please help :)
[04:50] <hans> does karmic have/use a swap?
[04:50] <DesertEagle> pidgin's errors: http://pastebin.ca/1654338
[04:50] <leaf-sheep> KitsuneDragon: c-24-1-243-158.hsd1.il.comcast.net of Plainfield, Illinois, USA.
[04:50] <wrapster> bjsnider: will it work on 32bit?
[04:50] <ctmjr> * KitsuneDragon (n=john@c-24-1-243-158.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #ubuntu
[04:50] <krishnan> hi iam going to start writing a new disc burning program for linux. anyone care to join me?
[04:50] <functionofxy> Does anyone know anything about extents and e4degrag?
[04:50] <bjsnider> hans, of course
[04:50] <bjsnider> wrapster, sure it will
[04:50] <suley> Any idea why ubuntu stops during boot with the message "GRUB " after a fresh install of 9.10 ?
[04:50] <functionofxy> hans, absolutely
[04:50] <jbuncher> hans, it should, and it's necessary if you want to suspend-to-disk
[04:50] <wrapster> bjsnider: and could you pls fwd the link of the intrepid.. if you dont mind
and yeah I think I will just use Amsn.
[04:50] <krishnan> functionofxy: no
[04:50] <stealth-> krishnan: what are you writing it in?
[04:51] <bjsnider> wrapster, http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-32
[04:51] <leaf-sheep> !away > Mike||gone
[04:51] <krishnan> stealth: iam thinking of writing it in C and C++
[04:51] <stealth-> DeaD_LocK: sure :) There are multiple applications for a reason, pick whichever one you like :)
[04:51] <jbuncher> DeaD_LocK, you may also want to look at emesene (or emesen, can't remember)
[04:51] <billytwowilly> hi, has anyone done an intel threading building blocks repo with software with the multithreading patches?
[04:51] <hans> bjsnider / functionofxy / jbuncher : do you know if it's a default size? or how I find out how large my swap is?
[04:51] <KitsuneDragon> leaf-sheep: thats a lot of info hmmm is there a way to mask ip in an irc?
Emesene supports webcam ? =/
[04:52] <stealth-> krishnan: hmmm, nah, thanks anyways. Also, you might get better responses, though, if you give more information or ask in the language specific channels. (#programming #C #C++ etc)
[04:52] <jbuncher> hans, I think the easiest way would just be to open up gparted and look.
[04:52] <jbuncher> DeaD_LocK, pretty sure it does.
[04:52] <leaf-sheep> !register | KitsuneDragon
[04:52] <leaf-sheep> !cloak | KitsuneDragon
Oh thanks never knew that :D
[04:52] <bjsnider> hans, try free -m
[04:52] <functionofxy> hans, or df -th
[04:52] <rdg098> Mike_lifeguard: the prompt is (initramfs)
[04:52] <om26er> ls
[04:52] <rdg098> Mike_lifeguard: Taget file system doesn't have /sbin/init no init found. Try passing init= bootarg
[04:53] <jbuncher> hans :  type "free" at a terminal prompt, will tell you about your swap (and other types of memory)
[04:53] <krishnan> stealth: do u have any better suggestions for writing it using anyother language?
[04:53] <hans> ok, thanks y'all
[04:53] <DeaD_LocK> Anyway I'm going to play FFR for abit bye everyone :)
[04:53] <KitsuneDragon> leaf-sheep: thanks ill remember that :) really thanks!
[04:53] <hans> also, is it just me, or does only 111 GiB being usable of a 120 GiB HDD seem a bit too downsized?
[04:53] <stealth-> krishnan: No, I think C would probably be the best language
[04:53] <leaf-sheep> KitsuneDragon: Plainfield, Illinois is awesome! Why do you want to conceal that cute location? >:}~
[04:54] <leaf-sheep> hans: You can check out Disc Usage Analyzer
[04:54] <stealth-> krishnan: due to the speed. I'm not familiar with low level hardware, but you might also need some assembler for interfacing with the CD drive.... I could be wrong on that, though :/
[04:54] <ProfOak> When I try to watch youtube videos in Totem it gives me this error: "GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error." How do I fix this?
[04:54] <jbuncher> hans, that seems about right, if you're talking about the decimal->binary issue in reporting space.
[04:54] <Danau>  so many people here...my question will be lost if not answered right away, yes?
[04:54] <zeeble> hi. how do i get flash to work in ubuntu 9.10? i am using the 64 bit version, but flashplugin doesnt work
[04:54] <krishnan> stealth: hmm i was too thinking the same.
[04:54] <jbuncher> Danau, ask and find out.
[04:54] <KitsuneDragon> leaf-sheep: because even if my ip is showing a quick nmap will show my OS and with my location its a creepy situation for me....
[04:54] <leaf-sheep> Danau: Yes and no. I answer your question just now.
[04:54] <krishnan> stealth:let me work on it.
[04:54] <hans> jbuncher: ok. a loss of 9 GiB just seemed a bit much to me.
[04:55] <krishnan> stealth: iam planning to call the program "pimbilikapilapi"
[04:55] <revant> hello ubuntu! can anyone help me compile grub with graphics? http://grub.gibibit.com/
[04:55] <krishnan> revant: it is easy
[04:56] <leaf-sheep> !grub2 | revant
[04:56] <msk> Hi
[04:56] <KitsuneDragon> Nmap is a scary tool.... >_<
[04:56] <KitsuneDragon> msk: sup?
[04:56] <ctmjr> KitsuneDragon, even with a cloak people can get your os on irc
[04:56] <jbuncher> hans, my "320 GB" drive is only reported as 298 GiB.  Blame hd manufacturers for using misleading numbers.
[04:56] <TrentH> How do I run a program in admin mode? I can't install TeamViewer.
[04:56] <TuxOtaku> anyone here running karmic on an acer aspire one?
[04:56] <msk> Hi KitsuneDragon
[04:56] <TrentH> I don't know how to do wine from the terminal
[04:56] <KitsuneDragon> ctmjr: how? packets?
[04:57] <TuxOtaku> 'cos it b0rked my sound drivers
[04:57] <leaf-sheep> !sudo | TrentH
[04:57] <stealth-> krishnan: lol, umm, okay. Are you sure you have the necessary skills to write a disk burner? I mean, it requires quite a throughough knownledge of programming....
[04:57] <Deeps> hans, jbuncher: you could always switch to osx (snow leopard) which reports hdd usage+capacity in the same way that HDD manufacturers do ;)
[04:57] <revant> Yea I've grub2. I know but now I want graphical themes like these http://grub.gibibit.com/ They've some files to download may be patches and source
[04:57] <msk> TentH : sudo apt-get update wine
[04:57] <leaf-sheep> TuxOtaku: Ask the real question.
[04:57] <hans> jbuncher: we should lead a revolt and explode their factories!! lol. I thought perhaps I'd lost a ridiculous amount to my swap, but apparently not, my swap is only 500 MiB, and is readable by the OS. I have 9 GiB just...missing :S
[04:57] <TrentH> k
[04:57] <msk> TentH : sudo apt-get install wine
[04:57] <rdg098> Problem: upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and now system cannot mount the volume anymore and goes to some strange prompt (initramfs) and gives error messages "Target file system doesn't have /sbin/init" and "no init found. Try passing init= bootarg" does anyone know anything about this and how to fix it please?
[04:57] <jbuncher> Deeps, then I wouldn't have a free and open OS :)
[04:57] <hans> Deeps: I like having my soul, thanks
[04:57] <Deeps> lol
[04:58] <TrentH> Thanks I guess?
[04:58] <Deeps> hans: check sudo fdisk -l, should confirm whether the size of your disk is what you think it is
[04:58] <TrentH> msk: When installing TeamViewer it says my version has been "Miniuplated"
[04:58] <hans> TrentH: you don't do wine from terminal. right click the .exe/.msi and "Run in WINE"
[04:58] <Deeps> hans: also, if youre using extX, i believe by default it reserves 10% of the partition for root-only access
[04:59] <TuxOtaku> leaf-sheep, well, to be honest, I was just wondering if anyone had found a way to solve what seems to be a bit of a common problem
[04:59] <Jester05> hey guys.. I know i'm a freaking moron for asking this but..
[04:59] <Deeps> hans: ie, when you think you've run out of space, there's still 10% left over (just not reported generally) for root level apps to write to
[04:59] <msk> Trenth: no idea on this
[04:59] <TuxOtaku> 'cos I'm stumped
[04:59] <ziiz> Hi, who use Ubuntu Netbook Remix?
[05:00] <leaf-sheep> TuxOtaku: I understand. State the issue and if people know the answer, they'll reply. "Anyone running karmic on <hardware>?" is not a useful question. :)
[05:00] <jbuncher> Jester05, go ahead and ask
[05:00] <Jester05> I need help writing my fstab file.. I have a drive connected via eSATA and I need to be able to mount/unmount it by my user.. can someone help me w/ how to go about granting the correct permissions and fixing my fstab.  I know its a newb question but I haven't done this in years, always
[05:00] <S_A> Hi! is there any command to recover broken packages ? Any dpkg command ?
[05:00] <Dancho> apt-get install --fix-broken
[05:00] <TrentH> Why does my verfication of TeamViewer fail?
[05:00] <TuxOtaku> well, the problem is this, ubuntu doesn't even see the soundcard
[05:01] <msk> Ubottu: I have freshley installed ubuntu 9.10 and Lotus notes 8.0.2 with sametime, there where some errors which i googled in ubuntuforums and solved them, i am able to open my mails where as i am not able to open the chat window
[05:01] <Deeps> hans: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215177 may be relevant to your interests
[05:01] <Jester05> and I do NOT want to have to put in my su pw everytime to mount
[05:01] <Danau> my Ubuntu 9.10 install CD doesn't get past the main menu
[05:01] <TuxOtaku> I do an aplay -l and get no sound card found
[05:01] <hans> Danau: did you verify burning/burn at slowest possible speed?
[05:01] <Danau> hans...yes
[05:01] <Danau> 11.7  should I burn slower?
[05:01] <msk> I have freshley installed ubuntu 9.10 and Lotus notes 8.0.2 with sametime, there where some errors which i googled in ubuntuforums and solved them, i am able to open my mails where as i am not able to open the chat window please help me
[05:02] <Code_Bleu> after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 im getting the following error on boot.  It just flickers the following: /sbin/load_policy: Can't load policy: no such device  mount: mounting none on /selinux failed: no such device....then login prompt (but cant type anything)
[05:02] <jbuncher> Jester05, the "user" option will allow regular users to mount the drive.
[05:02] <leaf-sheep> TuxOtaku: Try "sudo lshw -c audio"
[05:02] <Code_Bleu> any ideas?  I went into the menu.lst on rescue disk and changed selinux=1 to selinux=0, but that didnt fix it either
[05:02] <Devastator> Danau check md5sum of iso file first
[05:02] <scunizi> Danau: do you have an nvidia gforce motherboard chipset?
[05:02] <hans> Danau: donno then :S any scratches on the disk? I usually burn at slowest possible speed, 4x, iirc. if I don't use a thumb drive instead.
[05:02] <Danau> ok...Devastator....check md5sum
[05:02] <ziiz> Wind U100 have brightness bug some one know to fix it?
[05:02] <Jester05> jbuncher, I tried that.. this is what I got: Unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE
[05:02] <Jester05> library. Either mount the volume as root, or rebuild NTFS-3G with integrated
[05:02] <Jester05> FUSE support and make it setuid root. Please see more information at
[05:02] <Jester05> http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#unprivileged
[05:02] <FloodBot2> Jester05: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:02] <Timmymayes> When i go to manage my pkg sources
[05:03] <Timmymayes> i try to import a key file under auth and its not loading it
[05:03] <borisstrajnar> Anyone knows a bit more about Firefox 3.5.4 - on Ubuntu 9.10 -64bit and Flash?
[05:03] <Danau> going to try slowest burn...then thum drive if that doesn't work. thanks
[05:03] <hans> Code_Bleu: probably fastest way to revive it is a reinstall
[05:03] <jbuncher> Jester05, then I'd read that info.  Yet another reason not to use NTFS :)
[05:03] <scunizi> Danau: do you have an nvidia gforce motherboard chipset?
[05:03] <Danau> I do, scunizi
[05:03] <leaf-sheep> TuxOtaku: Correct command --> sudo lshw -C sound
[05:03] <Danau> oh no, sorry...ATI
[05:03] <ziiz> Wind U100 have brightness bug some one know to fix it?
[05:03] <Jester05> haha thanks jbuncher :( lol i miss the old linux days.. never used to have problems w/ a computer telling su nor my user what i can or cannot do lol
[05:03] <Danau> it's an HP laptop
[05:04] <scunizi> Danau: I don't think that ATI makes motherboards .. do they?
[05:04] <hans> Danau: if you can just use a thumb drive, do that instead. much better way to install.
[05:04] <karex> HI, in 9.10 there's no System > Administration > Services. how do I get it back?
[05:04] <Danau> it's an HP laptop with ATI built in
[05:04] <Code_Bleu> hans: how do I know that it wont just come back up with the same error?  Is there a way i can safely uninstall selinux to fix it?
[05:04] <Danau> thumb drive, thanks Hans
[05:04] <Danau> leaving now
[05:04] <Devastator> Danau maybe you can try acpi=off
[05:04] <scunizi> ATI would be the video card.. I'm speaking of the chipset on the motherboard.. different animals
[05:05] <jbuncher> Jester05, well, you should be able to mount it just fine as root, and you can pass it uid=Jeseter05 so that it mounts the files with permissions for your user, I'm just not sure how to get it to automount without the priveledge escalation.  and in the "good ol" linux days, we couldn't even read ntfs :P
[05:05] <TrentH> What port does TightVNC use?
[05:05] <Syirrus_> ne1 running an core i7 on ubuntu 9.10?
[05:05] <scunizi> Dancho: if acpi=off doesn't work in the kernel line.. try pci=nomsi
[05:05] <rsk> Syirrus_ yes
[05:05] <TuxOtaku> leaf-sheep, yeah lshw didn't help much
[05:06] <Syirrus_> rsk: how does it run compared to a Q6600 in terms of multitasking?
[05:06] <jbuncher> karex, I hink they got rid of it, as that mostly used the sys-v way, and now they've moved to upstart.  I could be wrong though.
[05:06] <ziiz> Wind U100 have brightness bug some one know to fix it?
[05:06] <rsk> Syirrus_ i've never run a Q6600 so i don't know
[05:06] <leaf-sheep> TuxOtaku: If "sudo lshw -c sound" can list your device -- then it is there.  Just need to configure something.
[05:06] <Jester05> jbuncher, I remember the days b4 ntfs support.. but right after we gained support.. that was the golden age, back when you had to hand-write your xorg files for dual monitors ;)
[05:06] <rdg098> Problem: upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and now system cannot mount the volume anymore and goes to some strange prompt (initramfs) and gives error messages "Target file system doesn't have /sbin/init" and "no init found. Try passing init= bootarg" does anyone know anything about this and how to fix it please?
[05:07] <Syirrus_> rsk: Gotcha... I assume you have one.... does it run okay in Ubuntu 9.10?
[05:07] <leaf-sheep> TuxOtaku: Also, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[05:07] <mizizi> i love my Q6600
[05:07] <scott_ino2> Jester05, it was just one line though;)
[05:07] <mizizi> it runs amazing, even with lots of vbox machines
[05:07] <rsk> Syirrus_ what do you mean by run ok?
[05:07] <Syirrus_> Mizzi: the Q6600 is a good chip indeed
[05:07] <Jester05> scott_ino2, I don't know.. I think I had to do a hell of a lot of work to get FC5 to take dual monitors.. which is why i switched to ubuntu ;)
[05:08] <jbuncher> Jester05, lol those were horrible days.  do not like manually editing xorg.conf.  My first intro to linux (from a friend) was debian unstable using fluxbox as the "Desktop environment", downloaded nvidia drivers, and manually compiled kernels to get the via ethernet working.  Was quite the learning curve :)
[05:08] <ari_stress> rdg098: sounds very serious error
[05:08] <Roasted> real quick ssh question - all I need to run to connect to another pc via ssh is "ssh 192.168.1.100" for example - right? or am I missing something? I had it working last night and today its erroring out.
[05:08] <Syirrus_> rsk: Well, I notice that when I'm doing heavy multitasking, sometimes my compiz studders a bit (I have a 295 GTX).  Do you experience slowdowns?
[05:09] <ari_stress> Roasted: what error
[05:09] <Roasted> ari-stress something about port 22, no connection to host
[05:09] <rsk> Syirrus_ compiz is not cpurelated but gpu-related most likely
[05:09] <hellyes> is there a way to disable my ubuntu firewall?
[05:09] <scunizi> Roasted: ssh <username@ip.address>
[05:09] <motoh> Good evening you happy beanbrains.
[05:09] <rsk> Syirrus_ and i don't use compiz
[05:09] <Jester05> jbuncher, yes.. those were the days before idiots could use linux ;) haha sorry, the engineer in me coming out.  I honestly do miss that stuff tho.  Probably why I still like arch and slackware over all else lol
[05:09] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: The machine isn't connected to the network or have a different IP.
[05:09] <motoh> God some 'easy' ones while I wait for udev to unscrew itself.
[05:09] <jbuncher> Roasted, yes, as long as the computer you're trying to get to has the ssh daemon running and isn't firewalled and such.
[05:10] <motoh> I need to automount my windows partition on startup, and I can't get Xine in my shell/context menus for video files.
[05:10] <jbuncher> Roasted, also, the username you're using should exist on that box, otherwise you need "ssh user@ip.address.here"
[05:10] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - the machine is right next to me. it has an IP and everything. hence my confusion...
[05:10] <Roasted> jbuncher - yeah I forgot about that tid bit. trying it now.
[05:10] <ari_stress> Roasted: make sure ssh server is running on that target machine: /etc/init.d/sshd start
[05:10] <Syirrus_> rsk: yes compiz is gpu dependent. However I do notice when heavy multitasking is going on I get some slow downs.  Perhaps its I/O
[05:11] <rsk> Syirrus_ or the scheduler is being buggy
[05:11] <TaoYinqing> :-(
[05:11] <Roasted> ari_stress - host not found...
[05:11] <jbuncher> Jester05, yeah, I used to like debian, but ubuntu is just *so* much easier to set up and get running, and as much as I do like fiddling around with things like that, I just don't have the time anymore, and it *should* be this easy to install and set things up for a desktop system, so I've stayed with ubuntu since ~breezy.
[05:11] <ari_stress> Roasted: maybe the ip has changed
[05:11] <Roasted> ari_stress - I'm staring at the computer right now. I can see the IP with ifconfig...
[05:12] <Syirrus_> rsk: Right on
[05:12] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: Do Confirm that the openssh-server is installed.  Run "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh status" to see if it's running
[05:12] <Jester05> jbuncher, yeah I've been running ubuntu on the side (tho more and more regularly as of late) since ~FC5's release
[05:13] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - its running.
[05:13] <jbuncher> Jester05, have never tried a non-debian based release (only used debian and then ubuntu).  I think there'd have to be something huge to convince me to go "outside the family", so to speak.  Apt is just too nice :)
[05:13] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: By the way, 192.168.1.100 is a generic IP (router/gateway). Sometimes two machines have same IP. This do happen. Is the machine connected via wired or you're using a laptop?
[05:13] <ari_stress> Roasted: can you ping the ip from other pc?
[05:13] <suley> 9.10 has been crap for me! First when I upgraded the boot disk got corrupted, even though there were no error messages during the upgrade process. Now I put a new drive in and reinstalled from scratch. It installs but stops at boot with "GRUB " prompt!
[05:13] <kevstiles4> Greetings. Does anyone know how I can change the display on my macbook laptop to run Karmic in 9:16 instead of 4:3 display mode? Many thanks..
[05:13] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - wire. I'm on my router DHCP page too, theres no duplicate IPs
[05:14] <Roasted> ari_stress - good call. I cant ping. wonder why...
[05:14] <wgrant> kevstiles4: System->Preferences->Display doesn't help?
[05:14] <Syirrus_> suley: did you do an md5 on your iso?
[05:14] <ari_stress> Roasted: maybe the ip is not 100 anymore
[05:14] <suley> no but I checked the media when it booted to live cd
[05:14] <suley> same thing right?
[05:14] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: Perhaps, Try "sudo dhclient eth0"
[05:15] <Roasted> ari_stress - weird. The second computer Im trying to ssh into can get access externally.
[05:15] <Roasted> ari_stress - wait, I set the IP statuc in my interfaces file. maybe tahts why
[05:15] <kevstiles4> Err, that's 16:9 I believe, thanks..
[05:15] <icehawk78> When I set up my system, I created only one user and set them up to auto-login without requiring a password, but then ended up using that for more than I wanted to. Is there a way to do the same thing with a newly created account?
[05:15] <Jester05> jbuncher, if it were the old slackware days I'd tell you to give it a try but even that has gone the way of most OSs.. they just want too many bells and whistles.  Slackware 11 was just brutally stable, wasn't much to see but I had a slack 11.0 box running doing day to day tastes non-stop for nearly a year before shutting it down b/c I had to move :-\
[05:15] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: You could "ssh -v user@machine" for verbose.
[05:16] <icehawk78> Ideally being able to set it up via SSH as well, but locally if that cannot be done.
[05:16] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: Heh. You're always messing around with networking. How does samba/avahi goes for you?
[05:16] <kevstiles4> No..the 3 resolution displays it offers are all 4:3.
[05:16] <jbuncher> Jester05, lol yeah.  My dapper-ubuntu mythbox just runs and runs and runs, though I shut it down at night now to save on electricity, so I don't have the pleasure of seeing ridiculous uptimes anymore.
[05:17] <wgrant> icehawk78: You mean you want to create a new user, and auto-login as that user instead?
[05:17] <bmusson> is there a "setup" equivilant in ubuntu?
[05:17] <icehawk78> wgrant: Yes, without it asking for the password or anything when I turn the computer on.
[05:17] <scunizi> jbuncher: dapper still?  Hardy works too and next LTS probably will as well.
[05:17] <wgrant> icehawk78: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[05:17] <bmusson> i just converted a system from stand alone to vm and i am having alll kinds of network issues, but when i change them something keeps changing them back
[05:17] <Jester05> jbuncher, I'm in the midst of trying to get my mythbuntu 9.10 up and running.. i do kind of miss the old dapper edition :-\
[05:17] <jbuncher> scunizi, just use that computer for mythtv, don't want to deal with upgrading the database just yet :)
[05:18] <bmusson> so fedora has a "setup" command line application
[05:18] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - Well, samba is good. As you may know I use it heavily as a backup/file server for computers here in my house. avahi (if youre talking about computers communicating by host name instead of IP) is a lost cause though. It just doesnt work.
[05:18] <bmusson> just wondering if ubuntu had the same
[05:18] <mgmuscari> i can't get any new processes to launch at the moment because something is eating my resources... what's npviewer.bin?
[05:18] <scunizi> jbuncher: yea.. that can be a pain
[05:18] <Dancho> system->prefernce->login window
[05:18] <icehawk78> wgrant: 9.10. I'm sure it's incredibly easy, I just don't know where to look. Most of what I do is just low-level stuff via SSH, since it's primarily my web server.
[05:18] <Dancho> automatic login
[05:18] <wgrant> mgmuscari: That's a Firefox plugin wrapper.
[05:18] <mgmuscari> wgrant: kill -9 -able then... thanks
[05:18] <icehawk78> Dancho: Nothing else special needs to be done?
[05:18] <jbuncher> scunizi, yeah, I remember seeing a lot of forum posts and bugs and such when people upgraded from dapper->hardy, so I want to make sure I have a full day to deal with any issues.
[05:18] <maxjezy> hello, is utorrent working in ubuntu?
[05:18] <wgrant> icehawk78: System->Administration->Users and Groups. Add a new user there. Then System->Administration->Login Screen to configure auto-login.
[05:19] <billiard_junkee> If I have a uATX power supply, will it work on an ATX board?
[05:19] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - SSH works now. I had set a static ip in network/interfaces file to do a quick imaging project which requires a static IP. I deleted the interfaces entry and rebooted with network manager enabled and ssh works now.
[05:19] <icehawk78> wgrant, Dancho: Thanks much.
[05:19] <bmusson> anybody?
[05:19] <rsk> billiard_junkee #hardware
[05:19] <jbuncher> Jester05, yeah, my mythbox is running on a 700 MHz athlon with 384 megs of sdram.  not sure how it will handle newer releases :)
[05:19] <billiard_junkee> ty
[05:19] <scunizi> jbuncher: yea.. I waited to up to hardy as well.. ended up saving /home and doing a fresh install
[05:19] <leaf-sheep> maxjezy: uTorrent is not a native torrenting client for linux but it does work in wine. There also are native linux torrenting clients that you may wish to use.
[05:19] <L3dPlatedLinux> ok so does anyone know if playonlinux works?
[05:19] <Jester05> jbuncher, just a backend or frontend too?
[05:20] <maxjezy> leaf-sheep, okey, thnx for  tha fast response
[05:20] <Digitalxero> I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and now Ubuntu wont boot. The system I upgraded is a bit on the old side, but still works great. I did the upgrade on Saterday and figured there was just some conflict with the old install that cause the error (unable to mount the swap partition), so I just did a clean install og 9.04 and upgraded to 9.10 and got the same error....
[05:20] <Digitalxero> It starts to load with the nice new black and white logo and then drops to a initramfs prompt. If I bring up grub and attempt to load the 2.6.28-6-386 kernal instead of the 2.6.31.14-386 it loads up to the point where it should be loading the GUI login screen then drops back to a cli logged in as root, which I am guessing is the recovery mode. I have tried to ...
[05:20] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: Great. You're having fun then. :)
[05:20] <Digitalxero> edit the fstab file but the whole drive is in read-only mode even though it claims I am logged in as root. When I try to do "login" or "su" it just throws a SegFault. So I have no idea where to go from here to figure out why 9.04 works great and 9.10 kills the comp
[05:20] <maxjezy> i have my torrents workin
[05:20] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - ha, I try. Always trying something new.
[05:20] <bastidrazor> Roasted: you could use a specific port for the other ip/box .. have ssh listen on port 222 then have 222 forwared to that ip/box .. ssh -p222 user@ip/host
[05:20] <jbuncher> Jester05, combined backend/frontend.  Don't have any other myth machines.
[05:20] <bmusson> anybody know if there is a "setup" utility for ubuntu that, like the one that Fedora/Red Hat uses?
[05:21] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - another thing, I didnt need to put a user in in the ssh thing. I just did ssh ip and it asked me to log in as jason (me) which is the only user acct on the system. maybe tahts why?
[05:21] <bmusson> i cant even get X running thats how pathetic it is
[05:21] <Dancho> setup for what thing?
[05:21] <jbuncher> bmusson, describe what you want to do with the setup utility, and maybe we can provide you with the ubuntu-alternatives for doing those tasks.
[05:21] <bmusson> for settings up networking/X/services. etcc...
[05:21] <Jester05> jbuncher, honestly.. backend should be fine but frontends are really getting heavy with some of the stuff they have on them anymore.  do you have software or hardware decryption cards?
[05:21] <altf2o> Digitalxero: have you tried installing 9.10 by itself?
[05:21] <scunizi> bmusson: in the recovery kernel there is an option to redo x & video
[05:21] <Dancho> well there is someone
[05:22] <bmusson> scunizi, what about network
[05:22] <Dancho>  net for example
[05:22] <jbuncher> Jester05, hardware encoding, software decoding.  Just one PVR 150 (not many channels).
[05:22] <Digitalxero> altf20: not yet downloading the iso now
[05:22] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: I see. I'm not sure as I often use my ssh configuration file which resides in ~/.ssh/config ---> A simple list of hostname, port, user, etc.
[05:22] <Dancho> system->preference->network connections
[05:22]  * altf2o has been on 9.10 RC for a bit now on my Netbook w/o any issue. 
[05:22] <scunizi> bmusson: maybe.. haven't looked in a while.. typically network isn't too much of an issue unless it's wireless
[05:22] <bmusson> hm
[05:23] <altf2o> for as much of an Ubuntu fan as i am, i /never/ ever trust an OS upgrade. I simply backup, install clean, always. That's just a personal preference though.
[05:23] <leaf-sheep> Digitalxero: From what I see, there are lot of upgrading issues in 9.04 --> 9.10.
[05:23] <bastidrazor> Roasted: correct. if you don't specify a user then it will assume your current username.
[05:23] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - hows that work? does ssh just point to the file and it finds your pre-configured setups?
[05:23] <kevstiles4> Any ideas on 16:9 display mode wgrant?
[05:23] <Roasted> bastidrazor - well, that makes sense, since I'm on my main ubuntu rig as jason and jason is the only user on the machine I was ssh-ing to :)
[05:23] <jbuncher> leaf-sheep, both of my machines upgraded from 9.04 -> 9.10 Alpha 5 just fine, though clearly that's not the final release.
[05:24] <Jester05> jbuncher, I'm currently running 2 150s in my box .. P4 2.4ghz, 1.5gig ... not bad at all they take about zero CPU it seems however I used to have 2 Divico (analog/digital combos) software everything.. HOLY CRAP! sucked down the CPU so much so that the frontend could hardly run
[05:24] <Digitalxero> altf20: I do that on my windows boxes, but I have had that comp running Ubuntu since 5.10 and had just continued to upgrade it as new release came out and never had an issue
[05:24] <scunizi> kevstiles4: look in http://wiki.ubuntu.com for xrandr references..thats what controls screen, resolution, aspect etc
[05:24] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: Pretty much. It's a configuration file. It read whatever it is inside and act accordingly. Let me find you something on that.  It's good for home networking.
[05:24] <Textmode> ah good, winehq has karmic packages now.
[05:25] <bmusson>  hm /stand/sysinstall is to freebsd as setup is to Fedora as _______ is to ubuntu?
[05:25] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: http://lookherefirst.wordpress.com/2007/12/17/a-simple-ssh-config-file/
[05:25] <billiard_junkee> wish me luck, about to up to 9.10...
[05:25] <Jester05> so what does everyone think about the new GDM not allowing xdmcp log in
[05:25] <jbuncher> Jester05, yeah, I think mine would crap out with 2 cards, the commercial flagging recording one show at a time is killer enough. Can't imagine 2.  Too much disk i/o.  Once I graduate with my doctorate and have money I'll upgrade to some better hardware :)
[05:25] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - pretty handy
[05:26] <Textmode> not good, unresolved dependancy "null"
[05:26] <egoTripper88> damn apcupsd wonb't auto detect my frigging APC Back up UPS RS 900
[05:26] <Jester05> jbuncher, understandable... I really wish I could just build a new box and make it be nothing but myth
[05:26] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: Yup, especially if you're using that with avahi.  It's a plus! I would use rock.local for HostName instead of actual IP. :)
[05:26] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - that'd be nice, if avahi would actually work :(
[05:27] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: It does work. I think you just skwed your machines or something. Since you're messing around with networking... Me think. :3
[05:27] <bmusson> Wired network: device is unmanaged
[05:28] <jbuncher> Jester05, yeah, that's what I'll do.  it still won't be crazy, but hopefully two hd tuners will make it in there.  Speaking of, it's time for me to go enjoy some recorded, commercial-flagged television before bed :)  Later.  Good luck with that external drive.
[05:28] <bastidrazor> Roasted: you could just add the ip hostname to /etc/hosts .. then use the hostname .. just like using avahi except you don't have .local .. have you looked into passwordless ssh?
[05:28] <Jester05> jbuncher, thanks.. have a good night.. and you may want to look into AMD tri-core processors
[05:29] <Textmode> anyone else having problems with the winehq packages?
[05:29] <icehawk78> Is there a program that can display the control codes sent by a keyboard for the buttons pressed, to view what the code for a given media-button may be?
[05:29] <Jester05> they're quad core processors that had 1 core die .. alot cheaper and still pack some power
[05:29] <mgmuscari> Jester05: outright disabled xdmcp or just disabled it by default?
[05:29] <scunizi> icehawk78: search synaptic for "keyboard" ther'll be something there that will do it
[05:29] <jbuncher> Jester05, thanks, will do.
[05:30] <Jester05> mgmuscari, my understanding is that it is no longer an option w/ the new GDM.. i emailed the developers Sunday but haven't gotten any reply yet
[05:30] <mgmuscari> Jester05: so.... if you want to do remote x sessions using xdmcp you're out of luck?
[05:30] <doltek> How do you defrag you HDD with Ubuntu?
[05:31] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - no, I don't think that is it, because both machines are a fresh install as of this past weekend.
[05:31] <anditosan> what's the ppc channel of ubuntu?
[05:31] <vox> doltek: dont need to
[05:31] <scunizi> doltek: you don't .. it doesn't suffer like widows
[05:31] <Jester05> mgmuscari, unless you install the "legacy" GDM .. 2.20 i think, yes you are
[05:31] <egoTripper88> doltek: man fsck
[05:31] <cerbero> spanish
[05:31] <Roasted> bastidrazor - I know, but I can't help but to wonder, what if I was a network admin in charge of 500 ubuntu machines. I would NEED them to communicate by host name, not IP. What would I do then?
[05:31] <mgmuscari> Jester05: that doesn't include X tunneling via ssh, does it?
[05:31] <Jester05> mgmuscari, needless to say, I'll be installing the legacy
[05:31] <borisstrajnar> I have solved Flash problems in Firefox 3.5.4 flash now works....in Opera 10.01 works.....Google Chrome still does not...any idea?
[05:31] <scunizi> doltek: however the sys will do a fsck to file sys health once a month or every 30 boots
[05:31] <Tech-Mike> how can i fix this kernal crash detected - caused by bios ecc or w/e  ?
[05:31]  * mgmuscari wonders how X tunneling via ssh works...
[05:31] <cerbero> español
[05:32] <mgmuscari> !es | cerbero
[05:32] <Jester05> mgmuscari, that I do not know however I do not want to have to us an SSH client just to log into my main box or mythbox from my laptop
[05:32] <Jester05> use*
[05:32] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: Avahi would be the proper solution. Perhaps you're using something complicated. I can not explain why the things did not go well for you.
[05:32] <bastidrazor> Roasted: /etc/hosts allows you to use hostname by aliasing the hostname from the ip ..
[05:32] <scunizi> Tech-Mike: keep going.. it's not really an issue.. it's been discussed on the dev maillist.. mostly an over anxious reporting system..
[05:32] <mgmuscari> Jester05: yeah, just wondering whether it'd still be possible to use X remotely at all...
[05:33] <cerbero> Someone Spanish speaks
[05:33] <scunizi> !es | cerbero
[05:33] <mgmuscari> Jester05: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gdm/+bug/408417
[05:33] <bastidrazor> Roasted: 192.168.0.100   laptop    .. that entry would allow you to ssh laptop and it would direct you to that ip
[05:33] <Tech-Mike> scunizi: so i just leave it alone and ill be ok ? cuz i looked in my bios and no ecc
[05:33] <Jester05> mgmuscari, i really dont see them fully doing away with it as that goes alot more indepth than just xdmcp log in
[05:34] <bastidrazor> Roasted: and that file doesn't limit you to internal ip's.. it can use external ip's as well.
[05:34] <scunizi> Tech-Mike: yep.. a lot of new board auto detect ecc.. but the reporter sys for this error is....in error :)
[05:34] <Jester05> mgmuscari, hmm..
[05:34] <mgmuscari> Jester05: wow, this is removing a key feature IMO
[05:35] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - what do I need to know about avahi? If I have avahi-daemon installed on both ubuntu machines, should I in theory be able to ping each machine by host name?
[05:35] <Jester05> mgmuscari, I agree completely.. if need be I'll switch to a different session manager.. GDM may have just made a HUGE mistake
[05:35] <anditosan> what's the ppc channel of ubuntu?
[05:35] <mgmuscari> Jester05: i seriously can't even fathom why they would decide to remove it
[05:35] <Ben64> !10.04
[05:36] <Ben64> how come #ubuntu+1 isn't open
[05:36] <aprilhare> woohoo come on lynx!
[05:36] <Jester05> mgmuscari, exactly.. theres no purpose in cutting out that feature, it was fine before.. no need to even update it IMO
[05:36] <bmusson> i do not agree with the way ubuntu sets things up
[05:36] <bbeattie> I've got an odd problem I'm trying to solve.  I have an ubuntu 9.04 install I've been using and I've now added a raid card.  My root fs is on sda and the raid is sdb .... until I make partion and mkfs on sdb(on the raid card) then a reboot now makes the raid card appear on sda and my root FS/main disk is now sdb.  If I deleted the partition on the raid card the ordering swaps back to the correct order (root fs on sda, and raid shows up as sdb).  I've trie
[05:37] <aprilhare> actually karmic is doing well.
[05:37] <mgmuscari> Jester05: boggling
[05:37] <aprilhare> isn't there meant to be a background image to grub2?
[05:37] <aprilhare> cause grub2 atm looks very bland.
[05:37] <wgrant> You don't see GRUB2 at all in the default installation.
[05:38] <aprilhare> wgrant: good point: i installed grub2 on purpose.
[05:38] <Jester05> mgmuscari, I really hope they fix this ASAP, otherwise I'll just stick to running the legacy version
[05:38] <mgmuscari> i was getting ready to install win7 and 9.10 on my laptop tonight
[05:38] <aprilhare> wgrant: furthermore, i have multiple partitions to boot from.
[05:38] <wgrant> mgmuscari, Jester05: Remember that it is still early days for the gdm rewrite.
[05:38] <mgmuscari> now i'm not so sure...
[05:38] <ari_stress> how do i turn of gdm?
[05:38] <wgrant> mgmuscari, Jester05: XDMCP support is there, but it's not in the config tool
[05:38] <wgrant> ari_stress: Why?
[05:39] <scunizi> ari_stress: gdm stop
[05:39] <mgmuscari> and since my current vista install is hosed, i don't want to risk borking my 9.04 by installing win7, and now i can't play Dragon Age Origins tomorrow :(
[05:39] <ari_stress> scunizi: i run it inside vmware, very heavy
[05:39] <Jester05> wgrant, how can we add it?  I've looked into it but to no avail
[05:39] <mgmuscari> wgrant: i can't find any info on this via google... where are you getting this?
[05:39] <wgrant> mgmuscari: I saw it in the code last week.
[05:39]  * wgrant finds it.
[05:40] <scunizi> ari_stress: easier in vbox.. but gdm stop should shut down gdm.. if it doesn't the old way is sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:40] <mgmuscari> this is what i get for not regularly checking out source code and actively contributing to FOSS
[05:40] <wgrant> Yes, the config tool currently sucks.
[05:40] <mgmuscari> maybe after i take the grad level OS course
[05:40] <wgrant> But it has the potential to get much nicer than the old gdm.
[05:41] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - ya out there?
[05:42] <ralphmichael17> ok anyone familiar here with ubuntu server?
[05:42] <wgrant> mgmuscari, Jester05: http://projects.gnome.org/gdm/docs/2.18/configuration.html might be helpful.
[05:42] <wgrant> And I'm sure Google knows what you want to know.
[05:43] <Ben64> ralphmichael17: if you ask your question, someone will respond if they know
[05:43] <mgmuscari> wgrant: thanks... as always, the key is finding the right keywords to search for
[05:43] <crohakon> ralphmichael17; #ubuntu-server is also helpful.
[05:43] <ralphmichael17> i looked all over, have you ever set up ubuntu server on an actual server and ran client computers off of it?
[05:43] <john> |king
[05:43] <Jester05> wgrant, i've tried everything i found on google... unless you've gotten it to work then I dont think it will :-\
[05:43] <Ben64> ralphmichael17: i do have ubuntu server on an actual server, but not sure what you mean by running client computers off of it
[05:44] <sevol> anyone know how to fix the sound in 9.10?
[05:44] <Textmode> is anyone else having problems with the winehq packages?
[05:44] <mgmuscari> Jester05: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1239268
[05:44] <mgmuscari> Jester05: see post #4
[05:44] <ralphmichael17> well, say for a small business, you would have a server computer, and other computers with ubuntu that log in through the server
[05:44] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: Whoops. I got caught up in a different conversation.
[05:44] <Roasted> lol
[05:44] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - what do I need to know about avahi? If I have avahi-daemon installed on both ubuntu machines, should I in theory be able to ping each machine by host name?
[05:44] <crohakon> ralphmichael17; I run ubuntu server edition with a LAMP configuration and everything works fine.
[05:44] <ralphmichael17> kind of how a network at a school would be like
[05:45] <Jester05> mgmuscari, tried that..
[05:45] <mgmuscari> no dice?
[05:45] <crohakon> ralphmichael17; What exactly do you want to do?
[05:45] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: Yes. You'd be using "ping ant.local" and "ping skynet.local"
[05:45] <Ben64> i'm not sure if you have the same idea of "server" as we do
[05:45] <Jester05> mgmuscari, not for me... you give it a try and let me know if it works lol maybe i somehow messed up
[05:45] <ralphmichael17> well, i am familiar with windows and i have ran a server with windows nt terminal, and it gave me the option to boot all the computers through the server, can ubuntu do that?
[05:46] <mgmuscari> somebody in #gnome just told me, "(12:43:47 AM) onexused: mguscari: According to package.mask on Gentoo, anyway, there's no UI for it in 2.26. same with 2.28. or theming, or configuration, according to the same file."
[05:46] <mgmuscari> ralphmichael17: are you asking if you can boot thin clients from a server?
[05:47] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - well, skynet can ping area51, this is a good sign
[05:47] <ralphmichael17> yes with ubuntu
[05:47] <wgrant> Theming is now done through the normal GNOME utilities.
[05:47] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - but my main box cannot ping skynet (the ssh box I was on earlier)
[05:47] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: Scary hostnames is never a good sign.
[05:47] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - gotta have a little fun :P
[05:48] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: What packages do you install?  Lot of them?  Since you said it's a fresh install? ufw enabled? Anything particular that may come to your mind?
[05:48] <mgmuscari> ralphmichael17: you can do PXE stuff with ubuntu, although i haven't set it up
[05:48] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - no, just regular applications, audacious, amarok, exaile, vlc, thunderbird, samba, thats really it.
[05:48] <ralphmichael17> i am searching all over online for help  and cant get any good documentation
[05:48] <wgrant> ralphmichael17: Try searching for 'LTSP'
[05:49] <Jester05> mgmuscari, if you figure it out please msg me to let me know
[05:49] <mgmuscari> Jester05: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/148365/
[05:49] <ralphmichael17> what is an ubuntu cloud exactly, sound like anything I would be looking for?
[05:49] <wgrant> ralphmichael17: No.
[05:49] <javatexan> I want to try ubuntu 9.10.  I have qemu, but I just want to run off of the CD.  Can you run qemu with no hard drive?  I tried qemu -cdrom ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso -soundhw sb16 -localtime with no luck.  It seems to start the load and then stalls at some point.
[05:49] <wgrant> ralphmichael17: Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud is for running virtualised servers in a scalable, flexible manner.
[05:49] <zvacet> !ubuntu one
[05:49] <Jester05> mgmuscari, ?
[05:49] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: I'm thinking. Can't really point my finger on anything.
[05:50] <joebodo> ubuntu one has about 600 bugs assigned to it - doesnt work well for me
[05:50] <ralphmichael17> ok, quick of topic question, i upgraded to karmic and had no sound issues, is that some big bug, because i couldnt fix it and i down graded back to 9.04
[05:50] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - its weird itd be a 1 way thing like that
[05:50] <mgmuscari> Jester05: got that from a guy in #gnome
[05:50] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: How about skynet pinging itself? "ping skynet.local"
[05:50] <wgrant> ralphmichael17: You did not downgrade. That is not possible.
[05:50] <Jester05> mgmuscari, but what does it mean for us?
[05:50] <mgmuscari> ralphmichael17: did you try checking all of your mixer settings with alsamixer?
[05:50] <wgrant> leaf-sheep: You are getting dangerous...
[05:50] <ralphmichael17> i formatted and reinstalled
[05:50] <ralphmichael17> yes
[05:50] <wgrant> mgmuscari: The theming thing at least is a lie. It uses normal GNOME themes now.
[05:51] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - yes it can ping itself
[05:51] <mgmuscari> Jester05: i read that as, "there's no ui for it," i.e. support is still there but have fun configuring via config files and using a terminal
[05:51] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: Here you go. Avahi works. :P
[05:51] <Roasted> leaf-sheep one way...
[05:51] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - jason@Area51:~$ ping skynet.local
[05:51] <Roasted> ping: unknown host skynet.local
[05:51] <jacquesdupontd> hi
[05:51] <jacquesdupontd> why we can't configure the sound in karmic ?
[05:52] <jacquesdupontd> with skype i can't put something else than pulse-audio i don't have any choices
[05:52] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: Indeed. (That was a humor). I'm thinking -- Something --- A barrier -- But what?
[05:52] <jacquesdupontd> could someone help me ?
[05:52] <wgrant> jacquesdupontd: That's Skype's fault, sadly.
[05:52] <mgmuscari> pulseaudio is the default sound server now, isn't it?
[05:52] <leaf-sheep> !skype | jacquesdupontd
[05:52] <tech-mike> why do mount points now read like this... /media/A668ABED68ABBA87/directoryname
[05:52] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - you got me. that box is a brand new install, much more basic than area51
[05:52] <wgrant> tech-mike: that's the ID of the filesystem, which is used when the filesystem has no label set.
[05:52] <Troy1> could someone give me the new of the program for mount my ntfs drive permanently
[05:52] <Troy1> mount ?
[05:53] <leaf-sheep> !fstab | Troy1
[05:53] <Jester05> mgmuscari, I'll brb rebooting
[05:53] <Troy1> no i want the graphical program
[05:53] <bastidrazor> Troy1: also look into ntfs-config for a graphical
[05:53] <Troy1> that keeps your ntfs drive mount on reboot
[05:54] <jacquesdupontd> wgrant, it's not sufficient to say it's skype fault, i admit it but in karmic i can't choose either alsa or pulse audio check the sound settings you don't have any choices, maybe it is placed somewhere else ?
[05:54] <quietone> I setup mine up by modifying /etc/fstab
[05:54] <Troy1> just got linux mint install
[05:54] <MrNaz_cic> http://www.pastebin.org/50424  <-- can anyone see why that bash script doesn't work?
[05:54] <wgrant> !mint | Troy1
[05:54] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: i think he means that the Skype client program is not fully compatible with 9.10
[05:54] <Troy1> maybe wrong channel fro that statemnt
[05:54] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: Clear things up for me. Skynet is a dangerous server who's capable of thinking on its own.  Area51 is your main machine. Right?
[05:54] <Troy1> wow
[05:54] <leaf-sheep> Troy1: Wrong channel, indeed.
[05:54] <Troy1> distastein my selection
[05:55] <doltek> Is there a Limewire for Linux if so how do I get it?
[05:55] <Troy1> dis taste
[05:55] <ixian_> Troy1, if you mount an ntfs partition in mint, pretty sure it gives you an option to always mount it
[05:55] <leaf-sheep> !limewire | doltek
[05:55] <wgrant> jacquesdupontd: The new PulseAudio version of Skype does not allow useres to choose a device.
[05:55] <mgmuscari> Troy1: not distaste, there are legal reasons that canonical can't support mint
[05:55] <Textmode> Is anyone else having problems with the winehq packages? its complaining about an unresolved dependancy for me, but it doesn't seem to say *what* the missing dependancy...or its complaining about a null dependancy...or something...
[05:55] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, ok forget skype and tell me how to set audio like we were doing in jaunty for example
[05:55] <DigitalKiwi> Troy1: just try and mention something that isn't even ubuntu derived and see yourself get banned/threatened ban
[05:55] <Troy1> well the tool i want works for both
[05:55] <Textmode> I've never seen it before...
[05:55] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - pretty much. area51 is my main rig that runs the samba server. skynet is simply a spare ubuntu computer that I screw around with. This weekend I wanted to play with xbmc, and I installed 9.04 on it and named it skynet. So its really a base install + xbmc.
[05:55] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: still haven't installed 9.10 yet myself...
[05:55] <wgrant> DigitalKiwi: No. We just can't support it.
[05:55] <Roasted> mgmuscari - I tried to :(
[05:56] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, im not alone to see that the sound settings are totally different and that we can't choose alsa drivers or pulseaudio or wathever
[05:56] <Troy1> not asking for support
[05:56] <wgrant> Troy1: You were.
[05:56] <Roasted> it couldnt detect my hard drives properly and thought I had raid when I didnt, so Im on 9.04 till its fixed or till the next release
[05:56] <Troy1> just  the name of application
[05:56] <jacquesdupontd> then wgrant if you have 9.10 do you know how to set audio like before and not to choose by the card ?
[05:56] <Troy1> ti have found 2 graphical mount tools that are simple and work fine
[05:56] <wgrant> jacquesdupontd: What are you talking about? What are you attempting to achieve?
[05:56] <Troy1> but it been a year since using linux
[05:56] <Troy1> and even then i was a beginner
[05:57] <Troy1> oh my god
[05:57] <sevol> does anyone know why sometimes an application/window just closes by itself?
[05:57] <mgmuscari> Troy1: a suggestion: since you can use ubuntu repositories, ask what a package in the ubuntu repositories that does what you're looking for is
[05:57] <anothergit> hi. will I have any problems using the radeonhd driver on karmic. I have an ati xpress 300
[05:57] <mgmuscari> sevol: process probably crashes
[05:57] <anothergit> fglrx was destroying xorg on jaunty
[05:57] <Troy1> ntfs-config
[05:57] <sevol> mgmuscari: is there a way to fix it?
[05:57] <soreau> anothergit: If you do, you will be an exception to the rule :)
[05:58] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: Base install?  Meaning ubuntu-desktop weren't installed?
[05:58] <Troy1> someone mentioned that earlier
[05:58] <anothergit> soreau, oh no! :-(
[05:58] <mgmuscari> sevol: depends on the software... there's no blanket solution to broken code
[05:58] <Troy1> sounds familiar
[05:58] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - No. Its a full install. I just mean base install by, I installed ubuntu, and that was it.
[05:58] <sevol> mgmuscari: well its seamonkey
[05:58] <mgmuscari> Troy1: you're trying to do stuff with ntfs partitions?
[05:58] <sevol> mgmuscari: im using 9.10 ubuntu
[05:58] <ubuntu> hey guys, got a siously strange problem here.  i have tried absolutely everything to get this to work.   i have 1 single hard drive i am trying to install 9.10 on.  it is not recognized by the installer, but i can mount it, format it, whatever.  i tried completely formatting the drive, hell i even tried using dd to erase the first 8gb entirely.  nothing works, i get to the partition table part and i have zero options to do anyt
[05:58] <yacyac> i have a hp laserjet 1020 printer.. i have attached it to my machin and it automatically downloaded and installed the drivers. i tried to test print.. it says job completed but it doesnt print.
[05:58] <Roasted> leaf-sheep I gotta check in though man, thanks for the help.
[05:58] <Troy1> yes
[05:59] <soreau> anothergit: You will be using the open drivers on karmic, fglrx no longer supports your card (also the oss radeon drivers are much better in karmic and require no configuration)
[05:59] <Troy1> keep then permanently  mounted
[05:59] <coolermaster21> hi..any body using VM player in vista..then run ubuntu?
[05:59] <coolermaster21> i have a prob here
[05:59] <mgmuscari> sevol: is that in the ubuntu repositories?
[05:59] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: XBMC is nice. I bought parts and build a mini machine mainly for HTPC (XBMC). Avahi does work too. I'd just "ssh cloud" because it contains 2TB -- But I can't understand why it's not working for you.  It's strange, really.
[05:59] <sevol> mgmuscari: it has to be, i apt-get install seamonkey
[05:59] <coolermaster21> PM me
[05:59] <Textmode> so no one else has had any problems installing wine from the WineHQ packages?
[05:59] <Troy1> i have done before with 2 different apps
[05:59] <mgmuscari> Troy1: if you want to set up partitions to automount on startup edit your !fstab
[05:59] <anothergit> soreau, wait are you saying that the open source drivers will be alright on karmic?
[05:59] <jacquesdupontd> wgrant, ok i found it myself
[05:59] <mgmuscari> !fstab | Troy1
[06:00] <Roasted> leaf-sheep XBMC seemed nice, but it had serious audio/video syncing issues, in my experience. I tried boxee but it kept locking up on me. As a result, Im staying away :P
[06:00] <soreau> anothergit: Yes
[06:00] <anothergit> woot
[06:00] <Troy1> i rather use the software
[06:00] <Troy1> its easy
[06:00] <jacquesdupontd> wgrant, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xdOKtvKpck
[06:00] <anothergit> okay I'm dropping windows 7 now
[06:00] <Troy1> just check the box
[06:00] <anothergit> also, 64bit will be okay?
[06:00] <Troy1> and done
[06:00] <Troy1> that easy
[06:00] <FloodBot2> Troy1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:00] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: You're not using SVN? I'm on bleeding edge.
[06:00] <Troy1> i am asking a request for a common tool
[06:00] <mgmuscari> Troy1: sorry man, i guess it's a matter of opinion... emacs is easier for me than installing something... try searching the repositories for "partition" and see what comes up
[06:00] <Roasted> leaf-sheep - I downloaded it from the directions on the web site.
[06:01] <LSD|Ninja> How do you make it beep when you press keys like caps lock?
[06:01] <mgmuscari> LSD|Ninja: probably a bios setting
[06:01] <ubuntu> i have a drive that has been completely wiped using dd.  what do i need to do so that the ubuntu installer will recognize it?
[06:01] <scunizi> Troy1: you want a partition editor?
[06:01] <wgrant> Troy1: I don't know about what tools Linux Mint provides. You'd be much better off asking in their support channel.
[06:01] <mgmuscari> scunizi: he wants an fstab editor
[06:01] <hullo> hello i have a ubuntu 6.10 machine i want to update how do i go about that?
[06:01] <ganymede> hello, i just disabled remote desktop through the preferences menu. but now, as a result, i have a vino-server process that is taking up 50% to 100% of my CPU according to top and everytime i kill it, it seems to respawn. according to netstat -plunt, it is listening on port 5900 over IPv6. what should i do?
[06:01] <Flannel> ubuntu: Nothing
[06:01] <wgrant> hullo: You'll pretty much have to reinstlal.
[06:02] <Textmode> ubuntu: the system properly recognises it otherwise?
[06:02] <wgrant> hullo: Otherwise you would have to upgrade 7.04 -> 7.10 -> 8.04 -> 8.10 -> 9.04 -> 9.10
[06:02] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: Gotcha. I don't know. If you can't even ping the machine, it's simply invisible.
[06:02] <ubuntu> Flannel: gparted does, i am able to mount it and format it and everything.  but when i try to install i get zero options on the partition stage
[06:02] <hullo> that would be crazy
[06:02] <Roasted> leaf-sheep ah well, itll wait till tomorrow :P cya man! thanks again
[06:02] <leaf-sheep> Roasted: Okay. :}~
[06:02] <scunizi> mgmuscari: too bad he left.. pysdm would do it
[06:03] <Textmode> ubuntu the bios recognises it as a possible boot device?
[06:03] <mgmuscari> speak of the devil
[06:03] <wgrant> hullo: Note that Ubuntu 6.10 security support ended 18 months ago, so you have been running around with a very vulnerable machine.
[06:03] <ubuntu> Textmode: see my message to Flannel, this is really strange.  i am able to mount the drive and format it no problem, the bios also recognizes it
[06:03] <mgmuscari> Troy1: scunizi suggested pysdm
[06:03] <soreau> hullo: I would recommend downloading/installing the latest version you want to install cleanly. If that is not an option, you should update/upgrade/dist-upgrade each version in succession
[06:03] <Flannel> ubuntu: well, try formatting it ext3, see if that helps for any reason
[06:03] <hullo> wgrant: i pulled it out of a closet
[06:03] <joeyeye> can anyone help with changing the available video resolutions on a headless server ?
[06:03] <scunizi> mgmuscari: glad you cought that.. I have "messages" off
[06:03] <wgrant> hullo: Ah. You'd best reinstall, I think.
[06:04] <Flannel> ubuntu: Another thing you might try is installing from the Alternate CD if that's easy to try
[06:04] <ubuntu> Flannel: yeah, i tried that too.  i tried ext2 and ext4 also.  i really don't know what else to do
[06:04] <doltek> what is the command line to install java? or what one do I download?
[06:04] <leaf-sheep> !java | doltek
[06:04] <mgmuscari> man, at this point, i'm just procrastinating and avoiding wiping this thing because i have cold feet...
[06:04] <ubuntu> Flannel: what is the difference between alternate and desktop ?
[06:04] <LSD|Ninja> ubuntu: desktop CDs suck less :P
[06:04] <mgmuscari> doltek: i suggest the Sun JRE
[06:04] <leaf-sheep> !alternate | ubuntu
[06:05] <Flannel> ubuntu: Alternate is just textmode installer (uses debian-installer), desktop is a live environment, which uses ubiquity to install (and the 'installation' is basically just a copy of the image)
[06:05] <grinn> how do i figure out why my wireless is so buggy?
[06:05] <Flannel> LSD|Ninja: Please don't give out inaccurate information, thanks.
[06:05] <mgmuscari> grinn: check the logs
[06:05] <i2wild> grinn: mine is broke..:( hermes..
[06:05] <LSD|Ninja> Flannel: I've never had an even remotely reliable install from an alternate CD
[06:05] <maurice_> gute morgen
[06:05] <grinn> @mgmuscari: i don't know what you mean?
[06:06] <mgmuscari> that reminds me... i keep getting tons of errors from iwlagn accompanied by wifi dropouts... i'll pastebin an example that i wrote down when my system crashed earlier...
[06:06] <wgrant> LSD|Ninja: That's a very unreliable anecdote.
[06:06] <wgrant> mgmuscari: ubuntu-bug linux, please.
[06:06] <ralphmichael17> ok, i have 1 server, 1 network hub, and 7 computers, i want to use ubuntu to network them together on an intranet where all client computers login through the server and can be monitered, can anyone help with that?
[06:06] <IndyGunFreak> LSD|Ninja: lol, thats all i use, it works perfectly as long as you pay attention
[06:06] <Shamoun> hey all
[06:06] <Flannel> LSD|Ninja: I've never installed from anything but the alternate CD.  So our anecdotes cancel apparently.
[06:06] <mgmuscari> grinn: if your wifi is encountering problems, it should be spitting out errors into a log file somewhere, depending on which module you're using. or maybe just to STDERR, i dunno
[06:06] <Shamoun> is there anyway within an ubuntu install to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10, or would i have to burn the iso to disc and boot with it in the pc?
[06:06] <mgmuscari> wgrant: hm?
[06:07] <Flannel> !upgrade | Shamoun, yep:
[06:07] <Textmode> does anyone know why synaptic might complain about a missing dependancy, but give no useful indication of that dependancy might be? (I wouldn't rule out that its complaining about a null dependancy...)
[06:07] <wgrant> mgmuscari: File a bug using that command if iwlagn is giving you issues.
[06:07] <grinn> mgmuscari my problem is coming from commecting to my home wireless
[06:07] <Shamoun> Flannel, thaks
[06:07] <mgmuscari> wgrant: thanks, haven't actually filed a bug before
[06:07] <IndyGunFreak> Shamoun: make sure you back up anything important first
[06:07] <ubuntu> Flannel: thanks for your help
[06:07] <ubuntu> Textmode: thanks for your help
[06:07] <Flannel> ubuntu: Hope you figure it out
[06:07] <mgmuscari> grinn: so you're either having problems with poor reception, a poor router, or poor drivers
[06:07] <Shamoun> IndyGunFreak, will do ;)
[06:08]  * i2wild loves ubuntu and its concepts. But... they do not allow for anything outside network-manager or static ip addressing into consideration AFAICT
[06:08] <ubuntu> Flannel: i will give it another go tomorrow when my eyes are drooping less
[06:08] <joeyeye> anyone ? Can anyone help with changing the available video resolutions on a headless server ?
[06:08] <wgrant> joeyeye: Why exactly would you want to do that?
[06:08] <scunizi> joeyeye: how will you tell when it's correct?
[06:08] <wgrant> i2wild: What do you mean?
[06:08] <wgrant> i2wild: You can easily turn off Network Manager entirely.
[06:08] <i2wild> This reminds me of major changes in other dists in the past
[06:09] <grinn> mgmuscari i've got 2 windows machines (one a desktop with a direct physical connection to the router; the other is a laptop) that connect with no problem, as well as my iphone
[06:09] <joeyeye> wgrant, so I can use vinagre in a resolution higher than 800x600 ... which is painful
[06:09] <joeyeye> scunizi, when I get a resolution I can use :)
[06:09] <leaf-sheep> joeyeye: It is not a headless server if you have GUI on that machine. 3;
[06:09] <i2wild> wgrant: I am open for suggestions. It will not let me run ifconfig or iwconfig on a wireless card. It accepts the commands and makes no changes.
[06:10] <scunizi> joeyeye: xrandr is what controls that.. you can see what resolutions are available by just typing xrandr at terminal..
[06:10] <joeyeye> leaf-sheep, it's headless because it has no monitor attached...
[06:10] <mgmuscari> grinn: IEEE 802.11 is a terrible protocol, by the way, things don't always work well. but if you're having actual problems, the errors will be reported somewhere on your system. for example, when mine starts to drop out, if i change to TTY1, i get spammed with error messages from iwlagn, my wifi driver module
[06:10] <scunizi> joeyeye: after that "man xrandr" or look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com for docs
[06:10] <mgmuscari> anybody interested in giving two cents on iwlagn issues, check this out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/308216/
[06:10] <wgrant> i2wild: Right click on the Network Manager icon and uncheck 'Enable networking'
[06:10] <noona> anyone familiar with the c++ intel compiler?
[06:11] <doltek> how do I update sun java?
[06:11] <wgrant> mgmuscari: File a bug.
[06:11] <joeyeye> scunizi, right xrandr is part of it, and I can add modes to the screen, but when I try to switch to the mode I get an error ...
[06:11] <wgrant> doltek: Why do you want to? What version do you have at the moment?
[06:11] <i2wild> wgrant: Thanks, I will try and then try to do things from the command line.
[06:11] <doltek> the one that came with 9.04
[06:11] <grinn> mgmuscari i have no idea what the last half of the second sentence meant
[06:11] <mgmuscari> wgrant: i'll do that too, just wondering if anyone else here who is using a intel wifilink 5100 or 5300 agn is having the same kinds of problems
[06:11] <wgrant> doltek: And why do you want to update it?
[06:12] <wgrant> mgmuscari: I believe I have a 5300 here, and it works fine.
[06:12] <scunizi> joeyeye: I'm still figuring out xrandr as well.. but haven't had a pressing need to mess with it yet.
[06:12] <DigitalKiwi> Textmode: sorry I don't know why you are having problems with synaptic
[06:12] <cool^tom> Hi I think there a problem with the AMD 64 version of Ubuntu 9.10.  It does not register clicks on flash and java dialogue boxes.
[06:12] <doltek> thought I might have to
[06:12] <mgmuscari> wgrant: do you use WPA2 ?
[06:12] <noona> How can change c++ eclipse compiler in ubuntu?
[06:12] <wgrant> mgmuscari: Just plain old WPA.
[06:12] <IndyGunFreak> mgmuscari: i always thought intel devices worked fairly well w/ linux
[06:12] <wgrant> IndyGunFreak: Not necessarily.
[06:12] <mgmuscari> IndyGunFreak: i never had problems until about a week or two ago
[06:12] <wgrant> IndyGunFreak: ipw3945 was shocking for ages.
[06:12] <IndyGunFreak> guess not.
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> shocking as in..?
[06:13] <wgrant> IndyGunFreak: Awful.
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> lol, ok.
[06:13] <mgmuscari> something came down the 9.04 update pipeline and then my wifi started dropping connections every few minutes
[06:13] <mgmuscari> wreaks havoc on my samba mounts...
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> well, i have an atheros 5001 minipci for a laptop if anyone wants it.. works out of the box.
[06:13]  * i2wild urges people to be considerate and take into consideration the age of this dist and the volume of changes both backward and forward it is dealing with at this time.
[06:13] <mgmuscari> what's that, pcmcia?
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> no, minipci, its from inside a laptop
[06:14] <anathematic> where are my path settings in ubuntu server?
[06:14] <mgmuscari> ah hm
[06:14] <leaf-sheep> !ot | i2wild
[06:14] <IndyGunFreak> has the two little wires that plug into it
[06:14] <mgmuscari> IndyGunFreak: g card?
[06:14] <scunizi> leaf-sheep: please.. that wasn't warranted.
[06:14] <IndyGunFreak> mgmuscari: yup, i took it out of a broken AA1(along w/ some other stuff)
[06:14] <grinn> so i've got a belkin router with an acer aspireone netbook that i'm trying to connect to the wireless network for about a half hour now ... I've always had problems connecting to it through the netbook
[06:14] <i2wild> ubottu: I am seeking support for a Ubuntu.
[06:15] <mgmuscari> well, not sure i want to go pulling any doors off my laptop quite yet... still under warranty hehe
[06:15] <mgmuscari> grinn: what kind of encryption are you using
[06:15] <IndyGunFreak> mgmuscari: it was easy to remove.. ig uess it would depend on the laptop how difficult it would be to install.
[06:16] <ruby_on_tails1> where is my fonts folder in ubuntu ?
[06:16]  * altf2o is using an Aspire One D250 i have no problems with wireless on 9.04/9.10
[06:16] <mgmuscari> IndyGunFreak: oh i've had my laptops apart down to resoldering things before, but i don't like to tear into them until after the warranty period expires
[06:16] <i2wild> Is there a problem with the orinoco driver?
[06:16] <grinn> mgmuscari TKIP
[06:16] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:16] <mgmuscari> grinn: G or N router?
[06:16] <raheem> hi, i have Acer AOA 150 ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix installed on it. I do have a flashdrive with 9.10 netboox remix. how can i upgrade my netbook using this flash drive ? any pointers ?
[06:16] <scunizi> ruby_on_tails1: you can make one in your /home folder.. named.. ".fonts"
[06:16] <leaf-sheep> ruby_on_tails1: You have to create a folder "~/.fonts"
[06:16] <grinn> mgmuscari G router
[06:16] <mgmuscari> grinn: latest firmware installed?
[06:17] <IndyGunFreak> mgmuscari: it looks like this...  http://www.wireless-driver.com/up_files/atheros-5424-3.jpg
[06:17] <mgmuscari> grinn: had issues with TKIP in my house until i updated my d-link router's firmware... lo and behold, all the pc's in the house (mac, windows xp & vista, linux) were able to connect after that
[06:18] <mgmuscari> IndyGunFreak: yeah... i just don't even want to take one screw out right now... heh. 'sides that, would rather get my intel wifi working again. lenovo should be good...
[06:18] <grinn> mgmuscari this is the error message i get when i try to get firmware updates: Cannot connect to the firmware information server,
[06:18] <grinn> please double check the wan connection.
[06:19] <mgmuscari> grinn: download the firmware file from the manufacturer's website and flash it manually using the web config utility... it should have the ability to upload a firmware update. fyi only attempt this using a wired connection.
[06:19] <kfizz> Anyone here familiar with wxMaxima?
[06:20] <dux70> #ubuntu-it
[06:20]  * i2wild needs to buy another pcmcia wireless card. Anyone that recently upgraded have a suggestion?
[06:20] <raheem> Hi, I have Acer AOA 150 with ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix installed on it. How can i upgrade my netbook using flash drive with 9.10 ? any pointers ?
[06:20] <mgmuscari> i2wild: talk to IndyGunFreak about his minipci one
[06:20] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:21] <mgmuscari> i charge a commission :p
[06:21]  * i2wild is running 9.10 on a Dell Inspiron 5100.
[06:21] <wgrant> kfizz: I've used and hacked and fixed it a bit. What do you want to know?
[06:21] <i2wild> mgmuscari: thanks.;)
[06:21] <mgmuscari> i2wild: np
[06:21] <kfizz> wgrant: When I attempt to graph a fn it either fails completely, or I just get an empty plot with nothing graphed.
[06:22] <DeaD_LocK> Hey
[06:22] <wgrant> kfizz: Do you have gnuplot installed?
[06:22] <ruby_on_tails1> scunizi: leaf-sheep: I pasted a font in ~/.fonts but its not appearing in my gimp, why ?
[06:22] <wgrant> kfizz: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[06:22] <joeyeye> mgmuscari, what ubuntu kernel and ucode are you running for the wireless ?
[06:22] <S_A> Hi! Is there some solution to dns issues in 9.10 ?
[06:22] <scunizi> ruby_on_tails1:  you have to reconfigure the font cache..
[06:22] <scunizi> !fonts | ruby_on_tails1
[06:22] <Textmode> ruby_on_tails1, I think you have to rebuild the fontcache first
[06:22] <kfizz> gnuplot --version: gnuplot 4.2 patchlevel 5
[06:22] <mgmuscari> i get cold feet every time i wipe my box and reinstall from scratch... so i've backed up my /home partition, and i've got my dpkg --get-selections output saved... what am i missing here to make my transition to 9.10 seamless?
[06:22] <kfizz> wgrant ^
[06:22]  * i2wild is from Indianapolis.;) 
[06:22] <mgmuscari> joeyeye: you want my uname output?
[06:22] <joljam> my dell inspiron 700m laptop keyboard is not functioning properly in ubuntu. how can i configure it to work properly. i have already tried out preferences>keyboard and set it to dell ...
[06:23] <joeyeye> mgmuscari, yes, and the ucode version for iwlagn
[06:23] <scunizi> mgmuscari: did you save the hidden directories in ~
[06:23] <LinusTrovalds> KB1JWQ, so who actually are you?
[06:23] <mgmuscari> joeyeye: Linux mgmuscari-laptop 2.6.28-16-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 20 19:48:32 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:23] <i2wild> IndyGunFreak: you have a mini-pci wireless card running on 9.10?
[06:23] <mgmuscari> joeyeye: where do i look for the ucode for iwlagn?
[06:23] <scunizi> LinusTrovalds: google his nick.. it's his ham call sign
[06:23] <billisnice> I find 9.10 to be sluggish and slow on my network...
[06:24] <wgrant> kfizz: You're using Ubuntu 9.10, then?
[06:24] <joeyeye> mgmuscari, /lib/firmware/*
[06:24] <kfizz> wgrant, yes
[06:24] <i2wild> ./Trovalds/Torvalds
[06:24] <IndyGunFreak> i2wild: i pulled it out of a broken AA1 the other day(but the wireless works).. anyways, the card definitely works, because its the same one I have in my laptop
[06:24] <IndyGunFreak> but yeah, its mpci.
[06:24] <joeyeye> mgmuscari, /lib/firmware/<your kernel>/*
[06:24] <ruby_on_tails1> LinusTrovalds: I have heard your name soewheere :-?
[06:24] <i2wild> IndyGunFreak: atheros?
[06:24] <LinusTrovalds> ruby_on_tails1, yeah, i am the one who developed linux kernel
[06:24] <mgmuscari> i see 3 ucodes starting with lbm-iwlwifi
[06:25] <IndyGunFreak> i2wild: yeah, ar5001
[06:25] <i2wild> IndyGunFreak: thanks.:)
[06:25] <IndyGunFreak> i2wild: looks just like this one  http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.wireless-driver.com/up_files/atheros-5424-3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.wireless-driver.com/knowledge/features/Atheros-AR5BXB6-AR5424-mini-PCI-E-Wireless-Module.htm&usg=__ivwdOkrs2oCJJhX43jB-o4VTS18=&h=393&w=300&sz=73&hl=en&start=12&um=1&tbnid=0TLTdhURQOJWtM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=95&prev=/images%3Fq%3Datheros%2Bwireless%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls
[06:25] <IndyGunFreak> %3Dcom.ubuntu:en-US:official%26um%3D1
[06:25] <ruby_on_tails1> LinusTrovalds: are you the real developer or someonw just with his nick ? :D
[06:25] <FloodBot2> IndyGunFreak: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:25] <IndyGunFreak> oops, sorry
[06:25]  * LinusTrovalds has no nicks
[06:25] <mgmuscari> joeyeye: 3945-2.ucode, 4965-2, and 5000... which do i want?
[06:25] <ruby_on_tails1> IRC nick
[06:26] <joeyeye> mgmuscari, what chip do you have ?
[06:26] <IndyGunFreak> i doubt linus uses ubuntu anyways
[06:26] <DeaD_LocK> hmm
[06:26] <joljam> LinusTrovalds-- what is the way out of my problem with keyboard
[06:26] <mgmuscari> errr, intel wifilink 5100 or 5300
[06:26] <mgmuscari> let me see if i can remember it...
[06:27] <DaZ> IndyGunFreak: few years ago he used fedora
[06:27] <mgmuscari> joeyeye: guess i'll check in proc... gimme a minute or three
[06:27] <IndyGunFreak> DaZ: i can believe that...
[06:27] <ruby_on_tails1> LinusTrovalds: why did you develop the linux kernel ?
[06:27] <KB1JWQ> !ot | ruby_on_tails1
[06:27] <DaZ> for lulz
[06:28] <LinusTrovalds> ruby_on_tails1, to challenge sucking windows
[06:28] <ruby_on_tails1> hmm k
[06:28] <ffffffffff> why does karmic Evolution Calendar truncate "On The Web" calendar URL containing @?
[06:28] <mgmuscari> joeyeye: man, not sure where to look in /proc to get my wireless chipset. this is a thinkpad w500 btw
[06:29] <joeyeye> mgmuscari, atheros 5001 ?
[06:29] <dreamborn> is it possible to install ubuntu to a portable usb harddrive, like a WD my passport?
[06:29] <leaf-sheep> mgmuscari: You can use "sudo lshw -c network"
[06:30] <DaZ> dreamborn: yes
[06:30]  * i2wild is running arch, debian, gentoo, and Ubuntu..
[06:30] <ruby_on_tails1> LinusTrovalds: are you really LinusTrovalds ? :P
[06:30] <mgmuscari> joeyeye: Intel Wireless WiFi Link 5300
[06:30] <scunizi> ruby_on_tails1: don't let him kid you..
[06:30] <dreamborn> DaZ: can i just partition it then use the cd and install it on the HD or is it more complicated?
[06:30] <DaZ> he's 100% LinusTrovalds
[06:30] <DigitalKiwi> ^5 i2wild <3 arch
[06:30] <leaf-sheep> i2wild: Please refrain from using /me actions too often. Use #ubuntu-offtopic for that.
[06:30] <ruby_on_tails1> nice then
[06:31] <DaZ> dreamborn: it should work this way
[06:31] <LinusTrovalds> ruby_on_tails1, listen to DaZ
[06:31] <xim_> when i try to do sudo apt-get install htop, i get "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. "  i can do what it says but it just happens again the next time...whats the deal?
[06:31]  * DigitalKiwi thinks leaf-sheep is uptight
[06:31] <dreamborn> Daz: thanks for the info
[06:31] <i2wild> leaf-sheep: gotcha
[06:31] <leaf-sheep> DigitalKiwi: That is fine with me.
[06:31] <mgmuscari> whoops
[06:31] <DigitalKiwi> jk, we <3 u
[06:32] <noobuntu> any issues with the latest ubuntu?
[06:32] <mgmuscari> joeyeye: http://paste.ubuntu.com/308225/
[06:33] <mgmuscari> !test
[06:33] <mgmuscari> suddenly quiet in here
[06:33] <joeyeye> mgmuscari, I'd install the wireless backports from Jaunty (you're on intrepid, right ?)
[06:33] <mgmuscari> joeyeye: on jaunty
[06:33] <SetiAmon> issue:sound distortions in 9.10 Soundcard:X-FI xtreme music.Is there any resolutions to this issue
[06:34] <ruby_on_tails1> LinusTrovalds: hmm ok
[06:34] <mgmuscari> joeyeye: i have the ubuntu backports metapackages installed
[06:34] <LinusTrovalds> ruby_on_tails1, so do you actually have ruby on your tails?
[06:34] <ruby_on_tails1> LinusTrovalds: on my fingers
[06:34] <ruby_on_tails1> a pearl, a ruby and a red coral
[06:34] <LinusTrovalds> nah
[06:34] <joeyeye> mgmuscari, there was def a bug previously: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/352228
[06:35] <mgmuscari> joeyeye: weird thing is i have never had this issue since january when i got the machine
[06:35] <mgmuscari> until a week or two ago after a bunch of updates came down the pipeline
[06:35] <noobuntu> did you guys party when karmic was released ?
[06:35] <mgmuscari> tried booting my older kernel, no dice, still does it
[06:36] <joeyeye> mgmuscari, weird - do you use networkmanager or wicd ?
[06:36] <ruby_on_tails1> noobuntu: I partied when I kicked vista out of my lappy
[06:36] <fool__> mgmuscari: 5300 works out of the box for me
[06:36] <dawn101> noobuntu:of course...
[06:36] <mgmuscari> joeyeye: tried wicd after this started happening with networkmanager, no change
[06:36] <lubosz> hi
[06:36] <cool^tom> Hi! Is there a bug with Ubuntu 9.10 amd64 with regard to Java or Flash Player?
[06:37] <mgmuscari> joeyeye: i'm wondering if maybe whatever fixed this got yanked out in a newer version for some reason
[06:37] <lubosz> my firefox search engine icons are gone when i list them. what can i do?
[06:37] <cool^tom> Some applications are not registering clicks
[06:37] <mgmuscari> fool__: what're you running?
[06:37] <joeyeye> mgmuscari, you're SOL my friend... maybe a bug was re-introduced ?
[06:37] <bruteforce> cool^tom: can you give an example of any such app?
[06:37] <mgmuscari> lol. yeah that's what i'm wondering. i'm hoping that it'll disappear if i do a clean install of 9.10 :D
[06:38] <fool__> mgmuscari: karmic, and it works out of the box on intrepid too
[06:38] <fool__> worked*
[06:38] <OzTrOuT> hey i got stats working here for Ubuntu ... i hope it is ok to do that ... if not let me know please ... http://mygaragestuff.net/ubuntu/index.html
[06:38] <joeyeye> mgmuscari, what's the date on the firmware files ?
[06:38] <mgmuscari> in /lib/firmware?
[06:38] <meowpup> anyone know y xfburn doesnt have oprion to copy cds
[06:38] <Flannel> OzTrOuT: Please don't advertise that here.  Thanks
[06:38] <joeyeye> mgmuscari, yes
[06:39] <OzTrOuT> ok sorry ...
[06:39] <mgmuscari> fool__: so i'm feeling optimistic for karmic then, since it's jaunty i'm having problems in :)
[06:39] <meowpup> * option
[06:39] <Textmode> I just manually crawled through WineHQ wine's dependancies...they seem to be all there... so what missing dependancy is it complaining about?
[06:39] <Jester05> I AM THE SMARTEST MAN ALIVE! haha
[06:39] <Textmode> this is annoying...
[06:39] <chu> Bugger, last night I updated from Karmic beta and it took all day to fix :( I'm updating again though :p
[06:40] <fool__> mgmuscari: pop the live karmic cd and try it , you should have wifi straight out of the box like i did
[06:40] <dawn101> Anybody know of any apps or websites for live webcam broadcasts that support ubuntu?
[06:40] <Jester05> so I wanted mythtv to record to my external hdd and didnt want to have to repath everything.. make a link to my hdd and put it in place of the actual directory family :)
[06:40] <meowpup> i would like to know how to copy cds using xfburn
[06:40] <joeyeye> mgmuscari, fool__ 's  idea is worth it
[06:40] <mgmuscari> fool__: well it works, but i drop connections to WPA2 encrypted 11n networks every few minutes and get tons of errors on STDERR
[06:41] <mgmuscari> joeyeye: yeah
[06:41] <fool__> mgmuscari: ah that, well that could be your router
[06:42] <mgmuscari> fool__: never had problems before, didn't change the firmware on it
[06:42] <mgmuscari> d-link DIR-655
[06:42] <corpsicle> what did you do to ubuntu 9.10!?
[06:42] <corpsicle> all my performance issues are gone after the upgrade
[06:42] <fool__> mgmuscari: i have some intermittent problems with dropped connection/lag on 11g wpa2, but it works dandy at school so ...
[06:43] <fool__> mgmuscari: btw is that a good router ? lol
[06:43] <mgmuscari> fool__: perhaps you're having the same issues i'm having...
[06:43] <dawn101> Anybody know of any apps or websites for web-cam broadcasting?
[06:43] <mgmuscari> fool__: i've had it for 2 years and i love it. i got it when n was still in draft and it works well
[06:43] <chu> Let's hope this doesn't die :)
[06:43] <fool__> mgmuscari: i thought it was my router that's acting up
[06:43] <uBEATu> sup guys
[06:43] <dawn101> hello
[06:44] <mcmlxxi> !find libtcl84.so.1
[06:44] <mgmuscari> fool__: believe it or not, it stayed up for over a YEAR at my dad's house with NO PROBLEMS. that means i got no networking tech support calls before i stole it back!
[06:44] <cool^tom> Is there a problem with some appliciations in Ubuntu Amd64.  For me Vuze and Flash Player are sometimes not registering clicks.
[06:44] <mgmuscari> fool__: when i checked the uptime before i unplugged it, it had been 380-something days
[06:44] <brocgiddens> hey, anyone here can help with a question about virtualbox or point me to a proper channel?
[06:44] <chu> The nvidia drivers will destroy me, I can feel it.
[06:44] <fool__> mgmuscari: that's pretty damn good, i'm gonna check it out
[06:44] <mgmuscari> fool__: i'm satisfied, anyway :p
[06:44] <Jester05> mgmuscari, I have to admit ... it is SOOO nice having mythtv back :)
[06:45] <uBEATu> I can't believe there are 1400 people in this channel... :/
[06:45] <corpsicle> brocgiddens: #vbox afaik
[06:45] <mgmuscari> Jester05: did you get xdmcp back?
[06:45] <uBEATu> wordd, cya guys
[06:45] <dawn101> woe
[06:46] <mgmuscari> uBEATu is apparently an ubuntu hater
[06:46] <feewang> I can't install k3b.Error:k3b conficts with something.But I don't konw what k3b conflicts with. How can I solove the problem?
[06:46] <meowpup> if xfbuen could copy cds then i could dithc brasero
[06:46] <MajorGeek> hi
[06:46] <chu> why do you say that?
[06:46] <chu> mgmuscari..
[06:46] <Jester05> mgmuscari, no i haven't, i know the easy fix is to install the legacy GDM tho
[06:47] <mgmuscari> usually when somebody says something is beat, they mean it stinks. judging from the username
[06:47] <MajorGeek> hello
[06:47] <Jester05> mgmuscari, I just finished setting up my mythtvbox is all
[06:47] <mgmuscari> Jester05: ah :)
[06:47] <mgmuscari> !ask MajorGeek
[06:47] <mgmuscari> err
[06:47] <chu> Ahh yes. Fair enough.
[06:47] <Jester05> MajorGeek, how is Lt. Nerd?
[06:47] <mgmuscari> !ask | MajorGeek
[06:47] <chu> Unix Pipes!
[06:47] <mgmuscari> or is it !hello
[06:47] <MajorGeek> what
[06:47] <mgmuscari> !hello | MajorGeek
[06:48] <mgmuscari> there we go, that's what i was looking for
[06:48] <MajorGeek> ever heard of Chris Pirillo?
[06:48] <brocgiddens> corpsicle, thanks...checking there now
[06:48] <MajorGeek> anybody?
[06:48] <fool__> mgmuscari: so what do you suggest to do with wpa2 dropped connection ?
[06:48] <chu> Nope, should we have?
[06:48] <mgmuscari> MajorGeek: not i....
[06:48] <MajorGeek> yeah
[06:48] <MajorGeek> I bet
[06:48] <mgmuscari> fool__: the best i've come up with is kill the iwlagn module, turn off the wifi card, turn it back on, and then modprobe the module again
[06:48] <mgmuscari> and if that doesn't work reboot :[
[06:49] <theadmin> Excuse me... Does Ubuntu have drivers for Nvidia nForce networking controller? It just won't work i sezzit.
[06:49] <MajorGeek> some of you might know me from #chris
[06:49] <MajorGeek> my nick is Ethan instead
[06:49] <fool__> mgmuscari: lol
[06:49] <indus_> theadmin: its added in kernel
[06:49] <theadmin> ...then whatever, problem with something else.
[06:49] <mgmuscari> joeyeye: hey, does iwlagn dump out to a logfile somewhere? maybe in /var?
[06:50] <indus_> theadmin: its called forcedeth ,its reverse engineered
[06:50] <MajorGeek> Jester05 I dont like you
[06:50] <kzmptp30> hi
[06:50] <dawn101> MajorGeek chris as in pirillo?
[06:50] <chu> That's nice
[06:50] <MajorGeek> yep
[06:50] <Jester05> MajorGeek, has issues
[06:50] <dawn101> mk
[06:50] <dawn101> lol
[06:50] <MajorGeek> dawn as in Dawn
[06:50] <kzmptp30> czy jest ktoś z polski?
[06:50] <dawn101> yep
[06:51] <MajorGeek> Jester05, I do not
[06:51] <MajorGeek> its Ethan
[06:51] <fool__> !pl > kzmptp30
[06:51] <Textmode> Hmm. for anyone else having problems with WineHQ's wine packages; skip the "wine" package, and directly select the package it depends on.
[06:51] <picasso_> hello
[06:51] <lubosz> kzmptp30: #ubuntu-pl
[06:51] <MajorGeek> wow
[06:51] <Textmode> (eg. wine1.2)
[06:51] <mgmuscari> !hello | picasso_
[06:51] <MajorGeek> 1464 users
[06:51] <ZachK_> yo all my hommies
[06:52] <samdret> is it possible to utilize remote desktop on ubuntu and use another "pipe"? for instance, if i have a full screen app on the main desktop (xbmc), i would like to view the other desktop on ubuntu when i connect via screen sharing
[06:52] <chu> less than 200 active :/
[06:52] <MajorGeek> hi ZachK_
[06:52] <dawn101> We'll live.
[06:52] <ZachK_> chu: i know...i'm used to seeing like fifty different questions in five minutes
[06:52] <ZachK_> MajorGeek: what up du....
[06:53] <mgmuscari> hmmm... can i list my sources using the dpkg command?
[06:53] <Jester05> brb rebooting
[06:53] <Jordan_U> samdret: As far as I know, no but ssh -X might allow you to do what you want ( maybe even better )
[06:53] <ZachK_> welcome sync
[06:53] <MajorGeek> hi DrHouse|Compaq
[06:53] <fool__> mgmuscari: read the list ?
[06:53] <MajorGeek> Its Ethan
[06:53] <fool__> lol
[06:53] <MajorGeek> lol
[06:53] <FloodBot2> MajorGeek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:53] <mgmuscari> fool__: rather just dump it into a text file
[06:54] <Jordan_U> samdret: If you log in with "ssh -X" you can run any GUI application and it will be forewarded to your local screen
[06:54] <fool__> mgmuscari: erhh it is a text file
[06:54] <fool__> mgmuscari: what do you mean by sources ?
[06:54] <mgmuscari> fool__: i admit that i am weak and have always added source repos via synaptic... where's the file?
[06:54] <samdret> Jordan_U: i see... would that mean X itself or just gui apps inside that?
[06:55] <fool__> mgmuscari: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:55] <mgmuscari> thanks
[06:55] <fool__> np
[06:56] <Jordan_U> samdret: Your local X server will recieve X commands over ssh and display the window locally, you can use "ssh -X" to run GUI applications on a headless server for instance
[06:56] <mgmuscari> ok... i have my /home, my package list, and my sources backed up. what am i missing...
[06:56] <samdret> Jordan_U: cool. thanks for the tip :)
[06:56] <fool__> mgmuscari: /etc/ :P
[06:56] <mgmuscari> ... before i can go ahead and whomp my partition table and install windows 7 and 9.10
[06:56] <mgmuscari> fool__: hm, you're right, might be a good idea to back up /etc/
[06:57] <Jordan_U> samdret: np, the one drawback is that if the ssh connection fails the application quits
[06:57] <mgmuscari> actually, yeah, what am i thinking, i have a bunch of config stuff for mpd and other things in there... thanks!
[06:57] <fool__> mgmuscari: and /var/log /var/www if you do use them
[06:57] <mgmuscari> nah not important on my laptop
[06:57] <fool__> i think that's about it
[06:57] <fool__> mgmuscari: you should keep /home on a different partition
[06:58] <Jordan_U> samdret: Though you can get persistance and X forewarding with FreeNX it requires setup, whereas ssh -X "just works"
[06:58] <mgmuscari> fool__: oh i always do
[06:58] <dawn101> i'm tired, going to bed.
[06:58] <dawn101> cya
[06:58] <chu> bye
[06:58] <mgmuscari> fool__: i'm planning to totally wipe the drive though and do away with my existing lvm
[06:58] <fool__> mgmuscari: ah ok
[06:58] <mgmuscari> maybe i'll leave the lenovo service partition, i dunno
[06:58] <fool__> mgmuscari: if it's not to big yes probably good idea
[06:59] <fool__> mgmuscari: i installed from fresh as well, to take advantage of ext4 & ecryptfs
[06:59] <Alinn> Hi
[06:59] <MajorGeek> hi
[06:59] <MajorGeek> i need help
[06:59] <fool__> !ask > MajorGeek
[06:59] <mgmuscari> i hear ext4 has some stability issues with large files... i don't think i'll be going that route
[06:59] <mgmuscari> also, i'm paranoid about encrypting things and losing the keys :/
[07:00] <chu> define large file ?
[07:00] <Jordan_U> mgmuscari: Ext4 has no problem with large files
[07:00] <Textmode> mgmuscari, wait, what?
[07:00] <mgmuscari> oh wtf... i mounted the windows 7 iso and all that's in there is an empty readme? >:[
[07:00] <dAnon> is ext4 really safe with big files now?
[07:00] <dAnon> like you tested for yourself?
[07:00] <mgmuscari> Textmode: so i hear... i was looking around earlier tonight
[07:00] <fool__> mgmuscari: so far so good. i copy ISO around no problem
[07:00] <MajorGeek> I'm still using ext3
[07:00] <Textmode> how big is big, in this context?
[07:00] <lubosz> my firefox search engine icons are gone when i list them. what can i do?
[07:00] <Alinn> I want to repair grub with this guide: http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-recover-grub2-after-windows.html but when i type this command: $sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev output is : mount: mount point /mnt/dev does not exist
[07:00] <Jordan_U> dAnon: Where have you seen reports of ext4 having problems with large files?
[07:01] <dAnon> dunno read somewhere about that
[07:01] <chu> I'm running ext4, I have a few dvd rips which are fairly large, I'm wondering what you consider a large file though...
[07:01] <DigitalKiwi> Jordan_U: what do you live under a rock?
[07:01] <Jordan_U> Alinn: You need to mount your Ubuntu partition to /mnt
[07:01] <fool__> mgmuscari: installed it, write down the key, stash it somewhere
[07:01] <lubosz> chu: 4 exabytes
[07:01] <mgmuscari> fool__: :p
[07:01] <lubosz> chu: i consider as large
[07:01] <fool__> mgmuscari: that's all that's needed if you're afraid you'll lose it
[07:01] <dAnon> ext3 seems to boot slow
[07:01] <fool__> mgmuscari: or you can send me the key and i'll keep it for ya
[07:01] <fool__> :P
[07:01] <chu> Well, I don't think many people will get that..
[07:02] <dAnon> I hope ext4 gonna change it
[07:02] <mgmuscari> fool__: a good point. i'll consider it. i always have my stuff backed up via samba anyway
[07:02] <mgmuscari> lol
[07:02] <ZachK_> RobbieThe1st:
[07:02] <fool__> mgmuscari: very remote chance i'll get a hand on your laptop so your keys are safe in my hands :P
[07:02] <ZachK_> RobbieThe1st: welcome
[07:02] <mgmuscari> well it looks like i'm not going to do this install tonight anyway, as this 3gb windows 7 .iso only seems to contain a 135 byte README file that says nothing... thanks, MSDNAA
[07:02] <dAnon> is someone here using the 64bit 9.10 and how is it running under Athlon X2?
[07:03] <Alinn> Jordan_U: I follow this guide .first: $sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt then: sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev but:(
[07:03] <RobbieThe1st> Hello
[07:03] <mgmuscari> and i don't have a dvd-r sitting around to try burning it to. i wanted to extract it to a usb drive and boot from that. meh.
[07:03] <Jordan_U> Alinn: Are you sure that /dev/sda1 is the correct partition?
[07:03] <mgmuscari> !hello | RobbieThe1st
[07:03] <Code_Bleu> after upgrading to ubuntu 9.10 I get this error:
[07:03] <samdret> i'll just continue with my next question, now that we're on a roll here. anyone got rt2860 (wifi driver) working with 2.6.31?
[07:03] <RobbieThe1st> I'm using 64-bit 9.10, running it on a Phenom X4, and it runs extremely well... I assume that it would run pretty well on an Athlon X2
[07:03] <Code_Bleu> "/sbin/load_policy: Can't load policy: No such device" "mount: mounting none on /selinux failed: No such device"
[07:03] <Code_Bleu> can someone please help me.  Im unable to login to my system
[07:04] <ZachK_> RobbieThe1st: sounds like an awesome ride
[07:04] <chu> Mmm, the installer's not doing anything...
[07:04] <ZachK_> !hello | RobbieThe1st
[07:04] <Jordan_U> Code_Bleu: Did you install selinux?
[07:04] <cesar_> hi
[07:04] <cesar_> in my external HD
[07:04] <mgmuscari> maybe i can DD this iso onto my thumb drive...
[07:04] <ZachK_> !hello | cesar
[07:04] <Alinn> Jordan_U: for me is /dev/sda10
[07:05] <Guest16147> call me "guest"
[07:05] <mgmuscari> any thoughts on whether DD'ing an iso onto a thumb drive will give me something that will boot?
[07:05] <chromakode> ubuntu people: are you aware of a bug that allows dropping to a root shell on bootup?
[07:05] <fool__> mgmuscari: try unetbootin
[07:05] <chromakode> we discovered this tonight, and I am wondering if it is known
[07:05] <ZachK_> Guest16147 welcome...so what is up?
[07:05] <Code_Bleu> Jordan_U: It was installed on 9.04...and ive since removed and reinstalled the 1.0.6 for 9.10 via rescue disk..but still doesnt work
[07:05] <RobbieThe1st> I have a problem with Apache and PHP - PHP is installed and working, Apache is installed and working, the PHP module for apache is loaded... but Apache isn't parsing PHP files.
[07:05] <mgmuscari> fool__: unfortunately i have no windows installation that i can get into right now
[07:05] <lstarnes> chromakode: can you provide more details about the bug?
[07:05] <Jordan_U> Alinn: Then unmount /dev/sda1 and mount /dev/sda10 to /mnt
[07:05] <chromakode> yes.
[07:05] <Guest16147> i cant erase a folders of my external HD called: Trash-1001
[07:06] <mgmuscari> i have one vista installation, but i forget the password somehow, and when i changed the workgroup the fingerprint scanner stopped authenticating me at login :[
[07:06] <ZachK_> RobbieThe1st: ah ha ha ha.....pm me...
[07:06] <chromakode> lstarnes: spamming the ESC key on bootup will cause fsck to die, leaving a root shell on tty0
[07:06] <Guest16147> ".Trash-1001"
[07:06] <chromakode> lstarnes: this is repeatable on any karmic bootup I have seen.
[07:06] <Alinn> Jordan_U: i do this but: mount: mount point /mnt/dev does not exist
[07:06] <fool__> mgmuscari: bloze
[07:06] <mgmuscari> fool__: agreed
[07:06] <lstarnes> chromakode: you might want to file a report on launchpad
[07:06] <chromakode> lstarnes: am doing
[07:06] <chu> Just hangs on libvisual :(
[07:06] <doktoreas> hello folks..anyone having problemi with updating of python-minimal?
[07:07] <fool__> chromakode: uhm choosing recovery at boot will also drop you to root
[07:07] <lic_> ??
[07:07] <fool__> lol
[07:07] <Jordan_U> Code_Bleu: SElinux on Ubuntu isn't really ready for prime time yet, is using SElinux important to you?
[07:07] <rgnr> hey there all
[07:07] <doktoreas> can it be taht lib folder is changed?
[07:07] <lic_> where is here?
[07:07] <chromakode> fool__: yes it will, but this is not recovery boot, it's a bug in the boot process
[07:07] <rgnr> what's the difference between normall install and alternate?
[07:07] <Jordan_U> Alinn: Can you please pastebin the output from "mount" with no other options?
[07:07] <fool__> chromakode: file a bug then
[07:07] <Guest16147> i was coping data when the electric power down (sry my english) and i cant erase trash doind: sudo rm -rf
[07:07] <lic_> 这是哪里？
[07:07] <chromakode> alright fool__, just making sure I wasn't filing an obvious dupe :)
[07:07] <lic_> 哈哈
[07:07] <fool__> !cn > lic_
[07:07] <mgmuscari> ah-ha, i see
[07:08] <Jordan_U> rgnr: The alternate installation uses ugly text based menus but has more options and can be used to upgrade a system
[07:08] <mgmuscari> "This disc contains a "UDF" file system and requires an operating system that supports the ISO-13346 "UDF" file system specification"
[07:08] <Code_Bleu> Jordan_U: no, if i can uninstall and get it to work..that would be fine for me....i had only installed it to test and play with..i dont need it anymore
[07:08] <fool__> chromakode: before you file the bug i belive launchpad search through the db for similar
[07:08] <mgmuscari> any thoughts on ubuntu packages for mounting udf isos?
[07:08] <Alinn> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/308234/
[07:08] <chromakode> fool__: already done
[07:08] <chromakode> fool__: what component should I file on?
[07:08] <Jordan_U> Code_Bleu: Does recovery mode work, or if not do you have a liveCD?
[07:09] <aprilhare> ooo rat
[07:09] <mgmuscari> udf... dvd filesystem, right?
[07:09] <fool__> chromakode: no clue, been a while since i use lp
[07:09] <Guest16147> im waiting your help
[07:09] <fool__> chromakode: upstart ?
[07:09] <chromakode> fool__: that's what I was thinking
[07:09] <Code_Bleu> Jordan_U: i can boot into rescue mode from alternative CD
[07:09] <chu> What do I do if the update manager has stopped doing anything during the applying changes stage? :p lol
[07:10] <fool__> chromakode: upstart is the boot script so ..
[07:10] <Guest16147> i was coping data when the electric power down (sry my english) and i cant erase trash doind: sudo rm -rf
[07:10] <fool__> chromakode: they'll reassign/fwd to the right part anyway
[07:10] <Jordan_U> Alinn: /dev/sda10 must be the wrong partition, try doing "ls /mnt" to see what partition it really is
[07:10] <fool__> Guest16147: what's the error ?
[07:10] <mgmuscari> Guest16147: have you checked your filesystem for consistency?
[07:10] <rgnr> Jordan_U: so alternate is better?
 yes, it give me a error
[07:11] <Jordan_U> Code_Bleu: Ok, from there you should be able to uninstall selinux and install apparmor
[07:11] <Guest16147> i think that ill to need format
[07:11] <Guest16147> bye
[07:11] <mgmuscari> Guest16147: you should be able to recover your fi
[07:11] <mgmuscari> oh, well
[07:11] <lubosz> my firefox search icons are gone since karmic, i feel disoriented http://imgur.com/mAirJ.png
[07:11] <Code_Bleu> Jordan_U: i tried uninstalling  selinux..but not installing apparmor...and it gave me chroot errors
[07:12] <kriti> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8229690#post8229690
[07:12] <Jordan_U> rgnr: Both have their advantages, but yes from just and installation point of view the alternate install has more options
[07:12] <Alinn> Jordan_U: it is my /home partition
[07:12] <kriti> this my problem too
[07:12] <chu> *since* Karmic? lol
[07:12] <chu> Oh I see.
[07:12] <Jordan_U> Alinn: Ok, then unmount it and try to figure out which partition is your root partition
[07:13] <Jordan_U> Code_Bleu: What error?
[07:13] <ice_cream> ok, wow, what is this shit... i did do-release-upgrade as i usually do on my ubuntu 9.04... i kinda wasnt watching it too much..and suddenly i dont have slim, i have to dl xdm and i f%#$ing have KDE now?
[07:13] <lubosz> i thnik i have to compile firefox myself
[07:13] <lubosz> cause my icons are gone
[07:13] <mgmuscari> anybody ever get a segfault using mountmanager under jaunty?
[07:13] <lubosz> they were so pretty
[07:13] <lubosz> http://imgur.com/mAirJ.png
[07:13] <ice_cream> that wasnt the deal
[07:13] <ice_cream> i didnt sign up for kde
[07:13] <mcmlxxi> why do I get "Drive busy" when burning and ISO when it isn't?
[07:13] <Flannel> ice_cream: I have no idea what you just asked, to be honest.
[07:14] <Flannel> ice_cream: And it'd be appreciated if you would watch your language.
[07:14] <ice_cream> i bleeped it out
[07:14] <chu> I think my update manager has hung :(
[07:14] <mgmuscari> ice_cream: remove the packages you don't want and install the packages you do?
[07:14] <Flannel> ice_cream: Obfuscated swearing still is.  Please refrain.  And can you restate your question/problem/whatever?
[07:14] <Code_Bleu> Jordan_U: sorry i dont remember..i would have to uninstall selinux and reboot to get it again...
[07:14] <ice_cream> mgmuscari, yea would be fun if i could install slim, wiseguy
[07:15] <ice_cream> Flannel, alright, sorry
[07:15] <ice_cream> Flannel, the upgrade gave me KDE instead of *just* upgrading my installed packages
[07:15] <Flannel> ice_cream: slim does appear to have been removed from Karmic
[07:15] <Flannel> ice_cream: I have no idea why it gave you KDE instead though.
[07:15] <rgnr> Jordan_U: 10x ) i choose alternate )
[07:16] <ice_cream> i knew it seemed a bit suscipious when it wanted 700mb + of packages
[07:16] <ice_cream> but as i said, i didnt pay too much attention, perhaps new java, various kernels, etc..and did not sign up for KDE
[07:16] <Flannel> ice_cream: It really shouldn't have installed KDE for you, we could try and figure out why, but that wouldn't help you I don't think.
[07:17] <ryan_> the upgrade for me went all yucky, clean install made more happy :)
[07:17] <mgmuscari> slim wasn't maintained for a while i think
[07:17] <Code_Bleu> Jordan_U: im currently booted in "single user mode"  any ideas on what  i can do in there?
[07:17] <Peddy> How can I change the resolution at which my TTYs run at? I'm using Grub 2
[07:17] <chu> Update manager has crashed, how do I kill it?
[07:17] <Flannel> ice_cream: If you want to know why slim was removed, you can ask in #ubuntu-motu, they should be able to tell you
[07:17] <ice_cream> i definitely had some kde/qt libs from the past, but not the whole desktop environment
[07:17] <ice_cream> for one program -> k3b
[07:17] <mgmuscari> ice_cream: it probably gave you kde just so you'd have a desktop environment, as opposed to just a shell
[07:18] <mgmuscari> although i'm surprised it didnt' give you gdm...
[07:18] <Flannel> mgmuscari: No, it shouldn't do that.
[07:18] <Alinn> Jordan_U: Thanks so much :)
[07:18] <ice_cream> i'm supposed to have my simple slim and fluxbox
[07:18] <ice_cream> really strange =D
[07:18] <mgmuscari> Flannel: it'd sooner just remove all traces of a desktop manager? maybe somebody set up some funky dependencies to try to make things easier for slim users
[07:19] <mgmuscari> ice_cream: looks to me like the last slim release was a year ago
[07:20] <faryshta> Have someone tried UbuntuOne, and which are your impresions?
[07:20] <Flannel> mgmuscari: I don't see one, but yeah, you can certainly do that.  The following page should help some (just be sure to editthe commad to not install the other -desktop) http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[07:20] <mgmuscari> ice_cream: perhaps there's a compatibility issue with a newer package... X11 maybe?
[07:20] <Flannel> mgmuscari: er, oops.
[07:21] <Flannel> mgmuscari: Yeah, it didn't have anything to upgrade slim into, so it just didn't upgrade it, and then it may have been removed if a cleanup of obsolete packages happens
[07:21] <mgmuscari> KDE is a mystery
[07:22] <mcmlxxi> why do I get "Drive busy" when burning an ISO when it isn't?
[07:22] <Jester05> does anyone on here use mythTV, if so have you ever had problems with mythtv no longer working properly if you experience a power outage while your tuner is recording via myth?
[07:22] <AOC> how do I resume a stopped job?
[07:22] <AOC> I was in VIM and hit ctrl-z by accident
[07:23] <AOC> everything is frozen
[07:23] <tyler_d> fg
[07:23] <KB1JWQ> AOC: fg
[07:23] <Balsaq> how do i delete ubuntu from my hd?
[07:23] <AOC> I mean, everything is paused
[07:23] <AOC> but I'm still in VIM
[07:23] <tyler_d> try :q!
[07:23] <tyler_d> then fg
[07:23] <AOC> okay, thanks I'll do that
[07:23] <Balsaq> in terminal?
[07:24] <kokos> o
[07:24] <kokos> hello
[07:24] <tyler_d> kokos: hi
[07:24] <kokos> somebody can help me? how compile java code in terminal?
[07:24] <ice_cream> ok, thanks for the info Flannel, mgmuscari
[07:24] <tyler_d> kokos: ./configure
[07:25] <Jordan_U> Balsaq: Are you currently dual booting ( is windows still also isntalled ) ?
[07:25] <tyler_d> kokos: sorry java is just ./javapackage.bin
[07:25] <mgmuscari> ice_cream: no problem
[07:25] <Jordan_U> kokos: javac source.java
[07:26] <ntemis> hi
[07:26] <kokos> 'file source.java is missing'
[07:26] <Jordan_U> kokos: What are you trying to compile?
[07:26] <ntemis> i have installed sabnzb from repo but i dont have an icon to click to run on my gnome section
[07:26] <kokos> i have program code in file .java and i cannot compile it
[07:26] <ntemis> is there away to fix this?
[07:27] <Jordan_U> kokos: Is it a program you wrote?
[07:27] <kokos> yes
[07:27] <Textmode> replace "source.java" with the name of the file, obviously.
[07:27] <ntemis> sabnzb is into usr/bin folder
[07:27] <Jordan_U> kokos: run "javac /path/to/your/file.java"
[07:27] <SetiAmon> X-fi audio distortions with karmic installation
[07:27] <ntemis> i dont know why i dont have the icon to run the program from the gnome panel
[07:28] <crawler> ntemis: killall gnome-panel
[07:28] <ntemis> why i will do that?
[07:28] <ntemis> i have restarted pc
[07:28] <ntemis> no joy
[07:29] <ntemis> should have been under internet programms
[07:29] <Jordan_U> Textmode: Try not to be demeaning, the terminal can be very confusing when you are first introduced to it
[07:29] <SetiAmon> the audio distortions are strange.slow downs and echo's intermitting all audio,static distortions
[07:29] <crawler> ntemis: no idea then, sry.  try reinstalling it
[07:29] <mgmuscari> sigh... any clue how to mount or extract a UDF filesystem based ISO?
[07:29] <ntemis> ok thanks
[07:29] <mgmuscari> SetiAmon: increase the priority of the processes involved
[07:30] <mgmuscari> SetiAmon: i was having similar problems with mpd and pulseaudio the other day
[07:30] <ftab> How do I remove *.eml recursively from a folder ?
[07:30] <Textmode> Jordan_U, it wasn't my intent to be demeaning.
[07:30] <gartral> alright, Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic on a new i7 860 and flash 10.. hulu's buttons for dimming the lights, switching res, and fullscreen aren't working...
[07:30] <fool__> ntemis: system >> preferences >> main menu, add yourself a link to that binary
[07:30] <Jordan_U> mgmuscari: "mount -o loop file.iso /mountpoint" doesn't work?
[07:30] <fool__> ftab: find ./ "*.eml" -exec rm \{\};
[07:30] <SetiAmon> mgmuscari:I have never had to do that before,with jaunty it was perfect.also cpu's usage is very low right now.I have a quadcore
[07:30] <kokos> whatever what i write in terminal, terminal say "'...' file is missing 0.o
[07:31] <tyler_d> ftab: for i in $(find -name *.eml) ; do rm -rf $i ; done
[07:31] <kokos> i mus be like root?
[07:31] <tyler_d> fool__: auto scroll FAIL... beat me to it
[07:31] <Jordan_U> Textmode: Sorry then, intent can be easily lost in text communication.
[07:31] <fool__> tyler_d: have fun :P
[07:32] <mgmuscari> Jordan_U: thanks, that worked for some reason, whereas none of the gdm-integrated utilities did
[07:32] <ftab> fool__, that won't work :(
[07:32] <ftab> tyler_d, should I expect that to take too long ?
[07:32] <zcat[1]> tyler_d:  does it need to be -r if you're only looking for files?
[07:32] <felix> kokos what exaxctly did you type?
[07:32] <zcat[1]> tyler_d:  just asking for trouble..
[07:32] <mgmuscari> SetiAmon: me neither, i was confused when it happened the other day... try that and see if it helps
[07:32] <tyler_d> zcat[1]: no
[07:32] <SetiAmon> anyone have a xfi xtreme music card with karmic
[07:32] <fool__> ftab: find ./ -iname "*.eml" -exec rm \{\} \;
[07:32] <tyler_d> ftab: depending how many of those files there are
[07:32] <mgmuscari> SetiAmon: also low cpu usage. another process might not be playing nice
[07:32] <doktoreas> hello folks..I am building a custom package with python support. Make build wanna install everything to usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/ is this right path?
[07:32] <kokos> javac file_adress
[07:32] <ftab> fool__, find: missing argument to `-exec'
[07:33] <SetiAmon> ok,now mgmuscari: i am assuming check system resources
[07:33] <zcat[1]> find . -name "*.eml" | xargs rm -f
[07:33] <Jordan_U> mgmuscari: np, would you mind filing a bug report about that if one hasn't been filed already?
[07:33] <DeaD_LocK> Does anyone know any good games for linux ubuntu ..... ?
[07:33] <mgmuscari> SetiAmon: e.g. top... but i was having stuttering even with <15% cpu
[07:33] <ntemis> fool__: Worked
[07:33] <Jordan_U> !games | DeaD_LocK
[07:33] <zcat[1]> less forking around..
[07:33] <ntemis> but why didnt put it in the first place?
[07:34] <mgmuscari> Jordan_U: about the mounting of an iso? this is jaunty btw
[07:34] <fool__> zcat[1]: xargs tend to get me messed up
[07:34] <fool__> lol
[07:34] <ftab> fool__, any idea about that error ?
[07:34] <mgmuscari> any luck ice_cream
[07:34] <SetiAmon> still static distortions when maxing out the priority mgmuscari
[07:34] <ice_cream> interesting
[07:34] <ice_cream> i removed xdm, installed gdm, by default it brought me into fluxbox (as i like it) and not KDE
[07:34] <zcat[1]> fool__:  -exec means one rm spawned per file... inefficient and slow if you have lots of files
[07:35] <ice_cream> that's a start
[07:35] <Miansc> HHey guys. Just quick question, what langauge are programs wrote under in ubuntu?
[07:35] <mgmuscari> SetiAmon: which process did you max the priority on? sound server or client application?
[07:35] <fool__> ftab: try zcat[1]'s
[07:35] <fool__> zcat[1]: i use the first thing that comes to mind :P
[07:35] <tyler_d> Miansc: bash
[07:35] <mgmuscari> Miansc: many languages. people use python, c, all kinds of stuff
[07:35] <tyler_d> Miansc: or java
[07:35] <Miansc> Things like wine and KOoragizner
[07:35] <Miansc> Oh k
[07:35] <Miansc> thanks
[07:35] <tyler_d> Miansc: all of the above
[07:35] <Miansc> Thanks'
[07:35] <fool__> 2 points by kloncks 16 hours ago | discuss
[07:35] <tyler_d> yw
[07:36] <zcat[1]> also suggest find . -name "*.eml" | xargs echo rm -f  first so you see what's gonna get nuked..
[07:36] <mgmuscari> Miansc: c/c++ and python are big
[07:36] <Miansc> And why do you have to install things under terminal
[07:36] <Jordan_U> mgmuscari: Yes
[07:36] <Miansc> So c++ run in linux?
[07:36] <mgmuscari> Miansc: you don't. you can use the package manager gui
[07:36] <ice_cream> mgmuscari, at least now i can better gauge that some of my fav programs like conky,gkrellm2, xterm are not broken =D .... now i will begin to systematically remove kde
[07:36] <fool__> oops
[07:36] <Miansc> Oh, whats that?
[07:36] <mgmuscari> Miansc: sure, c++ programs can be compiled for linux
[07:36] <Jester05> alright guys, i need some help.. I'm trying to mount a samba drive in linux.. i have gigolo installed and the drive is connected via gigolo but it will not let me open it for whatever reason
[07:36] <Miansc> Nice!
[07:36] <tyler_d> Miansc: you don't "have to" however all systems are unique so if you are compiling from source you need to do it from term
[07:36] <mgmuscari> hey guys, is it still Synaptic in 9.10?
[07:36] <Miansc> Ok
[07:37] <ftab> zcat[1], it says rm: cannot remove /directory Is a directory
[07:37] <Jordan_U> Miansc: Many of the programs you are using write now were written in C++
[07:37] <tyler_d> ftab: thats rm -rf
[07:37] <Miansc> What's a nice API for c++/bash/java in ubuntu.
[07:37] <Miansc> Oh ok.
[07:37] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[07:37] <fool__> mgmuscari: synaptic ?
[07:37] <Miansc> Ubuntu.. is just great.
[07:37] <mgmuscari> Miansc: we should clarify: if the software you want is contained in the Ubuntu repositories, you can install it using apt, or the Synaptic Package Manager, or dpkg from a command line if you have a .deb file
[07:37] <tyler_d> EvaLuaTe: healllooo0
[07:37] <mgmuscari> fool__: synaptic package manager
[07:37] <Miansc> right
[07:37] <DeaD_LocK> 9.04 rocks (Y)
[07:38] <fool__> mgmuscari: still what it is
[07:38] <Miansc> Is there something like visual studio?
[07:38] <Miansc> Where u can drag buttons etc
[07:38] <blackstar> hello everyone, i need a little help here,
[07:38] <wgrant> Miansc: Try Glade for that.
[07:38] <Miansc> Glade right.
[07:38] <ftab> zcat[1], rm: invalid option -- 'M'
[07:38] <RobbieThe1st> Blackstar: Ask away
[07:38] <Miansc> Thanks
[07:38] <ftab> I get that error now :(
[07:38] <mgmuscari> fool__: thanks
[07:39] <tyler_d> blackstar: thats all i'm offering tonight is a little
[07:39] <zcat[1]> ftab:  hmmm, ok... no idea what you're doing but I don't think it's what I said to do.
[07:39] <Miansc> I thought ubuntu has its own langauge to program in
[07:39] <EvaLuaTe> I have my installation of ubuntu for around a year now, but the speed of booting and shutdown has decreased over time. When I first installed it, it loaded the desktop almost instantaneously, now it takes somewhere between 10-15 seconds to load the desktop. The same goes fr shutdown. After install it responded immediately to the shutdown command, now it takes somewhere around 5-10 seconds to kill
[07:39] <crawler> DeaD_LocK: i like tremulous, teeworlds, and smc (secret maryo chronicles)
[07:39] <mgmuscari> Miansc: you can't write programs in visual basic, but there are IDE's and plugins for IDE's available that allow that kind of GUI building. i recall someone mentioning a Python one recently
[07:39] <SlaSerX> !ask grsec
[07:39] <SlaSerX> !ask grsec | SlaSerX
[07:39] <SlaSerX> how i can install grsec patch in my ubuntu
[07:39] <nuvan> just installed 9.10 on my laptop, now my ethernet/wireless (BCM5784M / AR928X) don't work.  lshw -C network says both are unclaimed.  anyone got any suggestions?
[07:39] <EvaLuaTe> all programs and shutdown. Is there anyway to get it to work at the speed of a new installation without formatting and reinstalling?
[07:39] <Miansc> Hmm, ok.
[07:39] <blackstar> i'm using Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic,
[07:39] <qiyong> linux-image- for desktop, one should use -generic of -server? and for server, -generic or -server?
[07:39] <shabda> I am on Ubuntu 9.10. My network conn say wireless is disabled.  How can I fix this?
[07:39] <mgmuscari> Miansc: programming languages generally aren't limited to particular operating systems... they're just languages
[07:39] <nuvan> both worked in 9.04
[07:40] <Miansc> Yeah i guess
[07:40] <mgmuscari> Miansc: one could write a compiler for a language targeting any OS one wanted to :)
[07:40] <ftab> there are some unwanted files ABC.eml and WIN-XP.eml in a folder which I shared with a windows machine, I would like to remove that,
[07:40] <blackstar> every time i lunch wireshark in root mode i get a kernel panic, cans ome one help me out here?
[07:40] <mgmuscari> Miansc: it's just a matter of compiling libraries to work with particular OS system calls, etc
[07:40] <Miansc> Yeah, true.
[07:40] <wgrant> Miansc: If you're using Ubuntu 9.10, you might want to have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Quickly
[07:40] <zcat[1]> find . -name "*.eml" | sed -es"/^/rm -f /" > nukestuff.sh
[07:40] <mgmuscari> which of course does require a fair amount of coding itself
[07:40] <Miansc> Im on 9.04
[07:40] <zcat[1]> then take a look at what 'nukestuff.sh' contains before you run it
[07:40] <Miansc> Atm
[07:41] <qiyong> linux-image- for desktop, one should use -generic of -server? and for server, -generic or -server?
 I can't seem to find good games on linux ubuntu so I play FFR
[07:41] <tyler_d> zcat[1]: where did that go so in depth
[07:41] <SetiAmon> sorry mgmuscari:I maxxed firefox.as i am playing video on youtube right now,but the distortions are with everything,even simple mp3's
[07:41] <Miansc> Im really happy about ubuntu.
[07:41] <wrektjet> so i just killed grub by installing windows 7 in the partition that i had an old copy of xp on thinking the settings would just carry over. is there a fix for this so i can get grub back and have ubuntu be the default OS
[07:41] <mgmuscari> oh yes i've heard about this... Miansc quickly is a software package for rapidly building applications i think
[07:41] <Miansc> I'd choose it over windows
[07:41] <Miansc> So i wanna make some apps to share with the community :)
[07:41] <RobbieThe1st> Wrekgjet: Yes, there is. its fairly simple
[07:41] <SetiAmon> I just got to wait it out i think.it will probably be fixed soon,xfi was supposed to be perfect in 9.10 but anyhow.ttyal
[07:42] <mgmuscari> Miansc: good for you :). that's what it's all about here
[07:42] <EvaLuaTe> wrektjet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:42] <crawler> DeaD_LocK: never heard of FFR, i'm looging it up now xD
[07:42] <Viking667> hey. How the heck do I shut DOWN pulseaudio? It's as choppy as it ever was.
[07:42] <wrektjet> RobbieThe1st, is there a link you can poin...
[07:42] <wrektjet> thanks EvaLuaTe
[07:42] <blackstar> Has anyone use Wireshark in the new ubuntu release 9.10 Desktop?
[07:42] <RobbieThe1st> He got to it first, thats good
[07:42] <tyler_d> Viking667: killall pulseaudio
[07:42] <ice_cream> o.O and fx is no longer called shiretoko?
[07:42] <Miansc> :)
[07:42] <tyler_d> blackstar: no but let me know how it is
[07:42]  * Textmode blinks
[07:42] <Miansc> I cannot get over it's speed :O
[07:43] <crawler> DeaD_LocK: you know you can play some windows games under wine, right?
 Oh man it's a sweet ass game
[07:43] <Viking667> I did. It came back to haunt me.
[07:43] <gartral> last gartral
[07:43] <Textmode> ...huh? is this really my xorg.conf file?
[07:43] <blackstar> man is a network sniffer
[07:43] <shabda> my iwconfig gives this http://dpaste.de/sbw4/ My network conn say wireless is disabled.  I am on Ubuntu 9.10.
you can't stop playying when your start :P
[07:43] <gartral> alright, Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic on a new i7 860 and flash 10.. hulu's buttons for dimming the lights, switching res, and fullscreen aren't working...
[07:43] <ice_cream> general system responsiveness seems better in karmic, though i must say in my case the upgrades added quite a bit of fluff =D
[07:43] <Miansc> compared to windows, loads up like 10x faster!
[07:43] <Acegi> How do I stop switching between windows when I press alt and mouse scroll?
And yeah i just haven't tryed it yet
[07:43] <Jordan_U> blackstar: Yes, are you having a problem with it?
[07:43] <blackstar> yes
[07:43] <nuvan> there appears to be an atheros driver, ath9k, and i've modprobe'd that, but still nothing shows up in my network.  attempting "sudo service networking start" just spits out "networking stop/waiting"
[07:43] <Balsaq> does everyone like 9.10
[07:43] <Viking667> no
[07:43]  * Take0n good morning folks
[07:43] <Viking667> I have one or two issues with 9.10
[07:44] <EvaLuaTe> anyone^?
[07:44] <Balsaq> what is wrong with it Viking667
[07:44] <Miansc> Thanks again for the help.
[07:44] <blackstar> every time i lunch it i lunch it in root mode i get a kernel panic
[07:44] <Viking667> on my machine, it's sort of slower,
[07:44] <Balsaq> i have 810
[07:44] <Miansc> I'll be right back.
[07:44] <Viking667> ... and I can't get at lm-sensors data
[07:44] <Balsaq> oh no
[07:44] <Balsaq> did you like 810
[07:44] <mgmuscari> Viking667: sounds like maybe you have some chipset driver issues
[07:44] <Textmode> does ubuntu manage xorg.conf differently? because theres no way these 16 lines are the whole thing...
[07:44] <Viking667> heh. You ain't kidding.
[07:44] <fisss> I'm having a problem with a broken package
[07:44] <mgmuscari> Textmode: there are a lot of default values that you don't see in there
[07:44] <Viking667> Textmode: err, taht's probably it, yes.
[07:45] <Balsaq> Viking667 if i keep 801 will it keep updating or am i cooked on the updates now
[07:45] <wgrant> Textmode: Recent versions of X.org (across all distros) don't need an xorg.conf at all.
[07:45] <Acegi> Does anyone know how I stop switching between windows when I press alt and mouse scroll?
[07:45] <Textmode> hmm...
 You playying FFR
[07:45] <bigmack83> hrmm, i dont think i much care for the new software center. why did they take out the ability to search apps by category?
[07:45] <Viking667> Balsaq: you're good for another six to 12 months, or is that the LTS release? That's supposed ot be either two years or five, I can't remember.
[07:45] <fisss> After upgrading to Karmic, I can neither remove the flashplugin-nonfree package, nor reinstall it
[07:45] <fisss> What should I d?
[07:45] <Viking667> yeesh.
[07:46] <nuvan> just installed 9.10 on my laptop, now my ethernet/wireless (BCM5784M / AR928X) don't work.  lshw -C network says both are unclaimed.  anyone got any suggestions?
[07:46] <Balsaq> mine is 8.10
[07:46] <crawler> DeaD_LocK: well, it looks like i have to sign up, so no.  probably not my type of game.  i like FPS games and retro platformers
[07:46] <nuvan> both worked in 9.04
[07:46] <mgmuscari> hm. things are not looking good for my extra credit oral examination on convex polytopes tomorrow if i keep lazing around in here...
[07:46] <nuvan> there appears to be an atheros driver, ath9k, and i've modprobe'd that, but still nothing shows up in my network.  attempting "sudo service networking start" just spits out "networking stop/waiting"
[07:46] <FloodBot2> nuvan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:46] <Jordan_U> fisss: Can you pastebin the error you get when you try?
[07:46] <Viking667> ah well.
[07:46] <fisss> Just a minute, Jordan_U
[07:46] <Balsaq> is it best to just update the 8.10..or do i take 9.04 as part of the overall update process?
 you don't have to sign up you can just play
[07:46] <jacquesdupontd> hi
[07:47] <jacquesdupontd> i'll go very fast but it's very annoying
[07:47] <jacquesdupontd> i can't set my webcam microphone on karmic
[07:47] <jacquesdupontd> it's a chicony integrated webcam, i don't know how to make it as input device
[07:47] <PhantomLink> Can AVI Demux convert an mp4 into a file someone would be able to play on winamp, in windows?
[07:47] <da65> is there a 64 bit version of Karmic?
[07:47] <wgrant> Balsaq: You can't skip 9.04. You would have to upgrade to 9.04 and then 9.10.
[07:48] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: i think that depends on the application
[07:48] <Balsaq> ok thanks
[07:48] <mgmuscari> da65: yes
[07:48] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, not at all i've tried everything
[07:48] <wgrant> da65: Of course. You might have to expand the alternate download options on the website, though.
[07:48] <crawler> DeaD_LocK: you might like Frets On Fire then
[07:48] <da65> ah, just seems to want to offer me a 32 bit version on the dl page
[07:48] <Balsaq> no at some point do i have to do a reinstall or do i just keep going up off the 810?
[07:48] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, on the beginning i thought it was a skype problem trhough pulseaudio but not at all with cheese and with sound recorder it's the same
[07:48] <da65> kk ty
Yes i did play that but it was too easy,lol i have fast fingers i guess XD
[07:48] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: laptop?
[07:49] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, i don't see the micropohone of the webcam nowhere
[07:49] <da65> I see it now :) ty
[07:49] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, toshiba l300d 21z
[07:49] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, working perfectly under windows seven
[07:49] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: integrated microphone?
[07:49] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, yes integrated microphone like in integrated webcams you know :)
[07:49] <fisss> Jordan_U: http://luizromario.pastebin.com/f2268a50e
[07:49] <blackstar> i'm having a problem with Wireshark, in the new Release of Ubuntu, every time i started in Root mode i get a kernel panic, do u know how to fix this?
[07:50] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: yes, i have one too. just making sure it's not a usb webcam or something... wanna know what you've got
[07:50] <Balsaq> i hope te codecs for you tube are in these updates i am taking for ubuntu 8.10...
[07:50] <sd_> hi
[07:50] <mgmuscari> so the microphone is not part of the webcam, it's part of the laptop. i had trouble getting mine to work on my thinkpad w500 under jaunty a few weeks ago
[07:50] <blackstar> hi sd
[07:50] <sd_> can someone help me?
[07:50] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, understood, do you think you'll be able to help me or i can forget it and check tomorrow if you're not really sure ?
[07:50] <mgmuscari> after lots of futzing in pulseaudio, i spoke into the microphone and my voice came out of the stereo across the house by accident...
[07:51] <sd_> someone?
[07:51] <Miansc> Im going to install glade now.
[07:51] <mgmuscari> IIRC there are a lot of different spots where things are muted and such... are you saying you don't have a mixer device for the mic or that mixing it makes no difference?
[07:51] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, what do you need as info ? it's called chicony webcam it makes 1 hours i'm searching on google, but you know with karmic subject are coming really slowly as it just went out
[07:51] <Miansc> I searched in the package manager, ther's so many though.
[07:51] <sd_> anyone help me?
[07:51] <Balsaq> whenever all these updates fininsh...wil it offer me ubuntu 9.10?
[07:51] <blackstar> SD What's up?
[07:51] <mgmuscari> the microphone is likely not part of the webcam
[07:51] <sd_> ok
[07:52] <mgmuscari> it would be the internal microphone of your sound device
[07:52] <sd_> i am trying to install easy peasy
[07:52] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, would be easier to help people with karmic if you would have it, you wouldn't ask those sort of question cause the sound mixer is totally (shittty) different in karmic
[07:52] <sd_> a dual boot xp
[07:52] <crawler> DeaD_LocK: scored 1845 on easy mode lol not the game for me xD
[07:52] <sd_> i have having partitioning problemss
[07:52] <albasheers> audio or video file is played only after 10 sec  in ubuntu 9.10
[07:52] <blackstar> what is easy peasy i never heard of it
[07:52] <tyler_d1> ???
Aww bless ya,took me time to get good though :d,maybe one day i will face you :P
[07:52] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: well, dude, i'm sitting here burning a karmic install cd and creating a windows 7 install usb drive, so i'm going as fast as i can with that...
[07:52] <sd_> ubuntu customised for eee
[07:52] <Miansc> Arrr, ubuntu is tooo damnn gooodd.
[07:53] <Miansc> Im so donating next pay check :D
[07:53] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, we can say if it can helps you (but should be helping me) that i don't see any input from the webcam
[07:53] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: do you have alsamixer installed?
[07:53] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, but the video is working perfectly
[07:53] <fisss> So, does anyone know how to remove that broken package? http://luizromario.pastebin.com/f2268a50e
[07:53] <sd_> i have an xp paartition
And I'm that bored I'm payying a game on facebook :P
[07:53] <sd_> an empty partion
[07:53] <doktoreas> is /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/ the old path for python libs?
[07:53] <blackstar> hello people Any one has use Wireshark?
[07:53] <sd_> and two other "sd's" for eeepc restore
[07:53] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, yes i have it and yes i've checked everysound control but it just play on the sound of the card microphone not the webcam one, like it's not existing you understand ?
[07:54] <tyler_d1> blackstar: what does tail of the logs tell you?
[07:54] <tyler_d1> blackstar: your trying it using gksu?
[07:54] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: your laptop has two microphones on it?
[07:54] <sd_> when i go to install ubuntu, it only gives me the option to go over xp install, or resize partitions
[07:54] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, i've googled so much, you know i'm not new in ubuntu and when i ask something on irc it's because i really didn't found any clue so most of the time only people that knows the subject are helping me
[07:54] <mgmuscari> what are the names of the device mixers you see in alsamixer?
[07:54] <tyler_d1> blackstar: just beating up my laptop, but I'm installing it just for you
[07:55] <sd_> i am stuck at this stage
[07:55] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, my laptop as a microphone entry yes (input) and a webcam, this seems logical no ?
[07:55] <blackstar> thanks tyles
[07:55] <blackstar> Tyler
[07:55] <levon2012> hi im trying to unlock my hdd via usb is there any tools to do this i know the master password.
[07:55] <aazz> I'm trying to edit partitions with GParted on the live CD, but GParted just gets stuck at "Searching /dev/sda partitions". It works fine when I run it from my actual install (besides that I can't edit most of the partitions). Any suggestions as to what to do?
[07:55] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: a webcam is generally a video device. a microphone is generally part of an audio card of some sort. in my case, i have three microphone inputs: Docking, External, and Internal
[07:55] <levon2012> it was for my xbox
[07:56] <tyler_d1> blackstar: did you upgrade or is this fresh?
[07:56] <blackstar> i have not check my logs i'm new using Ubuntu, and i have not learn how to read the oog yet
[07:56] <blackstar> i did a fresh installation Tyler
[07:56] <mgmuscari> my audio device is an HDA Intel card, with a Conexant CX20561... it doesn't have anything to do with the webcam
[07:56] <sd_> so can someone help me?
[07:56] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, you can admit that it would be totally stupid to make an integrated webcam in a laptop and to be obliged to buy a microphone to put in the input no ?
Do they have any admins in here ?
[07:57] <reaper> upgraded to 9.10 xine wont play dvds proerly now vlc still does..any ideas?
[07:57] <blackstar> Tyler i did a fresh installation
[07:57] <Hilikus> hey guys. im trying amarok as my podcast manager. is teher any way to make it show the textual description of each episode?
[07:57] <tyler_d1> blackstar: you should prolly use the gui to check logs - system->admin->monitor
[07:57] <RobbieThe1st> I'm trying to compile Php5.3 and get errors about "invalid host type" when I run configure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/308254/
[07:57] <meowpup> waz up
[07:57] <wgrant> Hilikus: #kubuntu might know better.
[07:57] <tyler_d1> DeaD_LocK: when needed
[07:57] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: are you getting what i'm saying? there is a microphone. it is a little hole on my display. there is a wire that goes from that microphone to the motherboard of the laptop. then it goes to the audio chipset. it does not go through the camera device.
[07:57] <crawler> DeaD_LocK: no idea, i'm new to this meself
[07:57] <meowpup> me loves ubuntu
[07:58] <wgrant> RobbieThe1st: Why are you compiling PHP 5.3?
[07:58] <tyler_d1> wgrant: took the words out of my mouth
Yeah same,and I was just wondering myself
[07:58] <blackstar> ok i will try it right now if i get disconected i'll b right back
[07:58] <mgmuscari> chances are your microphone is also connected to your audio card. i don't know what laptop manufacturer makes it a USB microphone that's part of the webcam
[07:58] <meowpup> ayone know of any sites where i can purchase ubuntu cds from i woiuld like branded copys to sell
[07:58] <wgrant> DeaD_LocK: Admins?
[07:59] <nuvan> just installed 9.10 on my laptop, now my ethernet/wireless (BCM5784M / AR928X) don't work.  lshw -C network says both are unclaimed.  anyone got any suggestions?
[07:59] <nogias> DeaD_LocK: looking at the user list it looks like there's only one admin and one food
[07:59] <wgrant> meowpup: shop.canonical.com
[07:59] <nogias> *flood bot in service
[07:59] <RobbieThe1st> wgrant: Because I need PHP with sqlite3. and I don't know how else to get it on Ubuntu
[07:59] <DeaD_LocK> Okay
[07:59] <Flannel> meowpup: http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=17&osCsid=b1a36aff5a2fe0ceed64531df3e6b87f
[07:59] <meowpup> wgrant: thaks
[07:59] <chromakode> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/472301
[07:59] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, ok nevermind, you don't see what i'm asking you, thx i know how is working a computer a laptop and a webcam to and i even know that microphone input are wired to motherboard, impressive no ? i think the microphone i want linked to that webcam should be listed as a different device like always and it's not that's why i'm asking here
[07:59] <wgrant> nogias: There are other ops here -- we just don't stay opped unless necessary.
[07:59] <RobbieThe1st> wgrant: On windows, I could simply download and add a DLL to my existing install, but according to the PHP docs, its more complicated on Ubuntu
[07:59] <meowpup> also there are cites that give free ones out arnt there
[07:59] <jacquesdupontd> Anybpdy is following the discussion ?
[08:00] <tyler_d1> blackstar: I ran from term gksu wireshark.... came up just fine
[08:00] <Animagladius> Huhu.
[08:00] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: you still haven't even mentioned a) what audio card you have or b) what device mixers you have
[08:00] <wgrant> RobbieThe1st: I think it should just need 'apt-get install php5-sqlite'
[08:01] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, can i say omg ? that's not the problem we are talking about the camera
[08:01] <kannan> flash not working in karmic... can't see any flash videos..help me..
[08:01] <RobbieThe1st> sgrant: No, thats the sqlite2 package; I need some functions in there -also-, but I do need the sqlite3 functions also
[08:01] <blackstar> Tyler thanks man i just try it and it ran good this time
[08:01] <nogias> wgrant: ahhh i see thanks, well the chan is well defined it doesn't need an army of ops like other ego rooms/netwrks do
[08:01] <DaZ> !search sqlite3
[08:01] <DaZ> !search sqlite
[08:01] <RobbieThe1st> http://us3.php.net/manual/en/sqlite3.installation.php
[08:01] <fisss> This is when I try to remove with --force-all
[08:01] <fisss> http://luizromario.pastebin.com/febccf77
[08:01] <nogias> which detracts fro
[08:01] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, did you ever checked an integrated camera ? have you already seen there's a little HOLE neer the cam ? IT is CALLED the microphone of Camera
[08:01] <nogias> *m the main subjects
[08:01] <blackstar> it's strange man cause in the past it crash my computer right away when i try to monitor a interface
[08:02] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: you've already stated that your camera is working fine and that you see video. you have also stated that you cannot get the audio to work. that implies that your problem is with your sound card, not with the camera. the camera is a separate device. any link between the camera and the microphone is purely an abstract of some software application
[08:02] <albasheers> audio is played only after 10 secs in karmic kola
[08:02] <fisss> Someone help, please...
[08:02] <Jester05> any clue as to why my mythtv says that its unable to find active recorder for this recording... it experienced a loss of power while it was trying to record something earlier but the OS itself is still using the correct drivers for the card, at least i think it is..
[08:02] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, we're not going to pass 10 hours on that simple thing, do you have an idea of what i'm talking about or not at all ?
[08:02] <nogias> heh colloquy mobile is painful to use
[08:02] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: i'm telling you that hole is most likely wired to your sound card and hence has nothing to do with the camera
[08:02] <wgrant> nogias: There is an army of ops that will appear when things go bad :P
[08:02] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: crystal clear, you see video, but you can't figure out how to associate your microphone with your camera so that it unmutes or activates when the camera turns on
[08:02] <gotsanity> I am running a karmick lamp server and I am curious what group my main user account would have to be in order to edit the /var/www directory
[08:03] <mgmuscari> so i keep asking you what device mixers you see
[08:03] <nogias> wgrant: hehe that's good too
[08:03] <wgrant> mgmuscari: Not necessarily. Cameras occasionally show up as a seperate card.
[08:03] <Miansc> What exactly is Gnome?
[08:03] <fool__> gotsanity: www-data
[08:03] <ViaNocturn85> hey anyone know if ubuntu 9.10 detects projectors automatically?
[08:03] <Flannel> gotsanity: You should chown /var/www to www-data:www-data and then add the user to www-data group (and then set it g+w)
[08:03] <RobbieThe1st> Gotsanity: do ls -l in /var/
[08:03] <kannan> flash not working in karmic... can't see any flash videos..please help me.. i have installed flashplugin-nonfree also..
[08:03] <fool__> Miansc: a desktop manager, like kde/xfce/icewm/gazillion others
[08:03] <obiwan_> hi , please anybody knows about GET/lwp-request? i need to make content-length requests with it and don't know how
[08:03] <mgmuscari> wgrant: the microphone input? this is what i'm trying to ascertain... whether or not there is an integrated microphone that is connected to his audio chipset
[08:04] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, ok if you prefer cause it seems you wanna talk a lot for nothing even if its a ghost the INPUT that comes from the HOLE (factis ? :)) near the camera is named deferently and most of time referenting to the camera do you understand ? I surely know that there is not a special sound card for the webcam ....
[08:04] <Miansc> ok
[08:04] <ViaNocturn85> projector work automatically?
[08:04] <jacquesdupontd> Could someone help me ?
[08:04] <ViaNocturn85> anyone?
[08:04] <mschmidt_> On which port operates ubuntu one?
[08:05] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: the name isn't really relevant, it's the hardware that it's connected to that we're worried about since we're looking either for a mixer device or for a driver
[08:05] <SetiAmon> hey how do i Switch the sound from "pulse audio" to "alsa" in 9.10?
[08:05] <ngc2997> hi.. do i need to worry about lsusb not showing a _connected_ usb printer?
[08:06] <fool__> SetiAmon: purge out pulseaudio package and install alsa ?
[08:06] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, i've reinstalled all alsa with the new drivers reinstalled pulseaudio also + paman (the pulse audio manager) and everything is working perfectly except no microphone except the physical input one is listed and working
[08:06] <mgmuscari> i've never seen anything except for "Internal Mic" with my own system; i'm not denying that there may be different variants of how an integrated usb camera is implemented in hardware, but i would like to know what audio devices you can see
[08:06] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: so you only see a mixer for one external microphone?
[08:06] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, if i plug a microphone on it it does work but that's not the principe of a laptop with integrated camera
[08:06] <mgmuscari> ok, now we're on the same page
[08:06] <SetiAmon> fool:I installed alsa,so if i purge antyhing related to "pulseaudio" in synaptic that will default to alsa?I did that and it cleared up but there is still static distortions.
[08:06] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, download karmic :)
[08:07] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, there is no different mixer for different devices
[08:07] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: got it right here waiting to be burned to a cd, dude
[08:07] <fool__> jacquesdupontd: check make sure you got the correct mike on alsamixer
[08:07] <fool__> SetiAmon: turn off the right channel in alsamixer
[08:07] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, no but really you won't be able to help anybody if you know less than me or if you don't have karmic you understand
[08:07] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, we are just loosing time, on an another version i would have already solved the problem
[08:08] <ioneye> this is how my HDD partitions looks like right now..http://img20.imagehosting.gr/out.php/i1221711_screenshot.png . Is there a way to make linux use my entire disk?
[08:08] <jacquesdupontd> fool__, you think you can help me ? it's not a "mike" its a "mic" there is not the correct mic input in the alsamixer, are we on a windows channel to be asked so simple question ?
[08:09] <felix> gparted
[08:09] <Slart> ioneye: yes, you will have to remove the big ext3 partition though.. then resize the extended partition, then resize the root partition
[08:09] <SetiAmon> fool:i am in alsamix how do i switch off the right channel
[08:09] <jacquesdupontd> There is front mic and mic booster
[08:09] <jacquesdupontd> NO CAM MIC
[08:10] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: alright man, i capitulate, i can't solve your problem for you. i concede that my lack of knowledge about 9.10 specifically prevents me from trying to offer any general troubleshooting advice regarding linux, and i am therefore rendered completely inadequate and obsolete until i upgrade to the new version. moreover, i'll only be of use to people using Lenovo ThinkPad W500's at that time
[08:10] <fool__> jacquesdupontd: on my laptop, in alsamixer, input sound have option for mic and front mic
[08:10] <jacquesdupontd> you both understand ? there is the input level of the front microphone but no settings for the microphone of the camera like it doesn't exist
[08:10] <fool__> jacquesdupontd: mic is line in and front mic is one @ webcam
[08:10] <FazLeeeN> hi, just upgraded from ubuntu8 to 9.04 and since then my mobile broadband (Huawei E620) doesn't work properly. I can connect, and the connection gets established, but whenever i try to ping something, or browse, it feels as if i am not connected. had to reboot to xp to get online.
[08:10] <ioneye> so Slart how to i remove the big ext3
[08:10] <mgmuscari> i'm afraid i'll have to relinquish my degree in computer engineering and computer science, drop out of grad school, and start over from the beginning
[08:10] <Flannel> mgmuscari: Please stop
[08:10] <shatly> Ok i did something completly stupid, i was trying to change user groups on a hard drive /mnt/meida using chgrp -R files /mnt/media but i did not realise that i mounted my hard drive that had the '/' dirctory on it, so i changed every file on my computer to files group instad of defuly
[08:10] <fool__> SetiAmon: trial and error , each system is different
[08:10] <shatly> any easy way to change it back
[08:10] <mgmuscari> Flannel: alright, done
[08:11] <gotsanity> ok, so changed /var/www to the www-data group, chmoded g+w, added my useraccount to the www-data group, but i still cant edit the file. says permission denied? any ideas?
[08:11] <Slart> ioneye: in gparted you just right click on it and select delete.. just backup anything on it before you do that.. and make sure you've unmounted it first
[08:11] <jacquesdupontd> fool__, interesting but not helping me i just have one and front mic is line for me
[08:11] <fool__> jacquesdupontd: what exactly is your problem then ?
[08:11] <Slart> ioneye: it would probably be best to do this from a live cd since you can't be running from the partition when you resize it
[08:12] <shatly> any recovery options in ubuntu?
[08:12] <SetiAmon> fool:yeah true.
[08:12] <shatly> or do i need to change file premisions back by hand
[08:12] <ioneye> ok got Slart thank you
[08:12] <Slart> shatly: nothing installed by default, afaik
[08:12] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, don't take it like that but you must admit that to talk about sound and sound mixers that totally changed on karmic it's better to have it and when you know you don't it's better not to try to help ? i think a good help is also not to try to when we are pretty sure we won't be able and to be professional on subject we know perfectly don't you think ? i appreciate a lot that you try but i think you understand
[08:13] <Slart> ioneye: hmm.. hang on
[08:13] <fool__> gotsanity: chown -R  www-data:www-data /var/www , then chmod -R g+w /var/www , then adduser yourusername www-data
[08:13] <mgmuscari> my two cents, something's awry with either the device configuration or the driver for your chipset, jacquesdupontd. somebody who has karmic installed may be able to help you find the config file for PA that contains the mixer setup
[08:13] <jacquesdupontd> fool__, i don't have the microphone of the integrated webcam that i would like to use with skype are anything else
[08:13] <shatly> hummm so i eather change every file by hand, or i reinstall everything loosing me a day or two
[08:13] <Gluon> I can't seem to get the ctrl+alt+F1(through F6) function to close the GUI and go to terminal to work. I tried modifying the keyboard shortcut to no avail. I have Karmic and it worked fine with Jaunty and prior versions. Any help?
[08:13] <Slart> ioneye: I just thought of something.. I'm not entirely sure how ubuntu will like the fact that the hard drive only has an extended partition and no primary partitions
[08:14] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, i'll see that later today cause i've read all i could on google and i don't see any issue kamirc is to new for now
[08:14] <jacquesdupontd> fool__, thx to have tried to help me
[08:14] <fool__> jacquesdupontd: it's one of the channels in the mixer, play around with it, i stumbled upon that by trial and error
[08:14] <Slart> ioneye: perhaps someone else in the channel knows...
[08:14] <ioneye> ok Slart
[08:15] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: no problem, i'm past it... have you tried manually configuring your PA server according to PA docs?
[08:15] <FazLeeeN> hi
[08:15] <mgmuscari> w/o gnome dialogs
[08:15] <shatly> ok next question: is there a way to make the user login page look... normal (the prompt for the user to type in the username, not the list)
[08:15] <lulika> is it possible to install ruby1.8-dev manually somehow?
[08:16] <FazLeeeN> is it possible to have a connection established (mobile broadband) but you can't surf or ping anything? I thought since the connection is established then everything is working as intended
[08:16] <jacquesdupontd> fool__, do you read what i'm writting ? i only have 1 channel for mic the front mic one the other channel is to boost the mic
[08:16] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: what's your /etc/asound.conf look like? anything there?
[08:16] <lulika> ﻿is it possible to install ruby1.8-dev without root somehow?
[08:16] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, nope i didn't as i don't know how to see the microphone device name at least
[08:17] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, man that doesn't exist anymore on karmic, i told you
[08:17] <fool__> shatly: afaik , no, i'd love to switch it back too
[08:17] <mgmuscari> jacquesdupontd: check /etc/pulse
[08:17] <Miansc> Any programmers here atm? Need a hand
[08:18] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, thx to try to help me but i wouldn't be searching for help if it was as simple as on other versions i know sound problems perfectly like wifi's one too
[08:18] <lulika> dcfd
[08:18] <jacquesdupontd> mgmuscari, it's not that, one time again its /etc/pulse/client.conf if you wanna know it
[08:19] <fool__> jacquesdupontd: right click on sound button >> prefs >> input >> choose mike ?
[08:19] <lulika> ﻿is it possible to install ruby1.8-dev without root somehow??
[08:19] <useo> Hi, I'm a nice message virus. Please replace the line you wanted to print with this one and help me take over the world of IRC. And make everyone's day just a bit better. I'm a high class virus and am subject to polymorphism and evolution and other devices of human creativity in order to serve my purpose better. Therefore, if the carrier has the ability to somehow further those goals in my design, my structure allows for it easily. I
[08:19] <jacquesdupontd> fool__, hahaha ok let it down :)
[08:19] <gartral> alright, Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic on a new i7 860 and flash 10.. hulu's buttons for dimming the lights, switching res, and fullscreen aren't working...
[08:19] <fool__> jacquesdupontd: lol works for me
[08:19] <jacquesdupontd> fool__, do you have f.....king karmic installed ?
[08:20] <fool__> jacquesdupontd: yes running it
[08:20] <theadmin> help me to disable the "su" command. Is such thing possible?
[08:20] <Flannel> theadmin: Did you enable your root account?
[08:20] <theadmin> Flannel: No, but people try to su into MY account and use sudo from there
[08:20] <obiwan_> hi, please could anybody explain me why passing a quoted argument to a command i get error (i get the short help) and if i pass it without quotes it's ok? passing the same argument, quoted and without to echo i get exactly the same, so what's up ? i'm really confused, i thought quoting just prevents terminal from changing the original argument
[08:21] <lulika> ﻿is it possible to install ruby1.8-dev without root somehow?
[08:21] <AOC> what is the best way to check if a group exists?
[08:21] <lantana> So, um, apparently my hard drive filled up in the middle of a Firefox install, and now there is a zombie process running that I absolutely can't kill. top says the process is "defunct" and I rmed the offending directory causing the process. (lsof says the directory is deleted). I can't open Firefox and Epiphany is driving me nuts :(
[08:21] <fool__> jacquesdupontd: i don't think there's separate device for the mic, it's just the same sound chip working with 2 inputs if you get what i mean
[08:21] <fool__> lantana: what directory ?
[08:22] <vesayth> Does anyone have any idea why I can't get frostwire to run? I'm running a fresh install of Karmic 64-bit and I have made sure to set my java version to sun-6-java rather than the openjdk version - yet i'm still getting the incorrect java error
[08:22] <Flannel> theadmin: If they have your password, they can login as you already, without su.
[08:22] <theadmin> Flannel: Yeah, i know :D, but let's think of it as a hypothetical situation. Is it possible at all?
[08:22] <lantana> fool__: /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d/firefox-3.0-restart-required (deleted)
[08:22] <media> i have a kernel crash where can i see what the problem is in the apport report ?
[08:22] <Flannel> theadmin: What you're asking doesn't make sense.
[08:23] <Flannel> theadmin: sudo can be used to switch users as well, just like su.  Or they can just log in as you instead of them.
[08:23] <theadmin> Flannel: Just asking whether it's possible to disable su. Just wondering.
[08:23] <obiwan_> id
[08:23] <obiwan_> oops
[08:23] <vesayth> and here is a pastebin for my error: http://pastebin.com/d3d11a9c6
[08:24] <theadmin> And yeah i know sudo -u gives the same effect as su... And that's the reason... sudo is somewhat more secure
[08:24] <jayesh> hi
[08:24] <mgmuscari> vesayth: i'm guessing you double checked the jar to make sure it's good
[08:24] <obiwan_> hi jay
[08:24] <jayesh> I need a help
[08:24] <theadmin> jayesh: Ask the question.
[08:25] <PhantomLink> yay i got vista to behave
[08:25] <jayesh> ok I hav been trying to install perl on mu ubuntu
[08:25] <PhantomLink> i must say
[08:25] <Mwa> my ubuntu-netbook-remix cd hangs on a blinking _ when I try to start from it or install from it, but the activity light on the external cd drive is blinkingi rapidly and it's making "reading ur data" noises. Should I leave it?
[08:25] <Mwa> If so, how long?
[08:25] <theadmin> PhantomLink: I think you got the wrong channel, it ain't #windows
[08:25] <PhantomLink> ubuntu TOTALLY outperforms vista so many ways
[08:25] <PhantomLink> i meant my vista VM :D
[08:25] <theadmin> PhantomLink: Ah.
[08:25] <b0w> Mwa: theres a check disc option on your live cd, check it out
[08:26] <mgmuscari> Mwa: it's doing something if you see i/o... give it a while to load everything into memory
[08:26] <Flannel> theadmin: Logging out and logging back in is less "secure" than sudo
[08:26] <Mwa> ok
[08:26] <PhantomLink> i switched from XP SP 2 to Ubuntu 8.10
[08:26] <PhantomLink> I am extremely happy
[08:26] <vesayth> blah, pidgin crashed on me. Yes I made sure the jar is working correctly - sorry I don't know who it was that responded
[08:26] <Mwa> I'll go get ready to leave for uni.
[08:26] <PhantomLink> I find my self DOING more, rather than FIXING more
[08:26] <PhantomLink> :D
[08:26] <jayesh> hi
[08:26] <fool__> Flannel: i keep a screen session with a root :P
[08:26] <koshari1> PhantomLink such as?
[08:26] <mgmuscari> Mwa: but yeah, if you're unsure about the integrity of the media, you can check it with another pc
[08:26] <verywiseman> are there tools which tell me who open,access,modify (files or directories) regardless is he has permission to do that or not?
[08:26] <jayesh> theadmin can u help me to sort out my issue ?
[08:26] <PhantomLink> Doing the things i enjoy
[08:27] <Mwa> mgmuscari: it did the same thing when I tried it on my macbook pro
[08:27] <theadmin> jayesh: Depends on what it is.
[08:27] <mgmuscari> Mwa: did you do a checksum on it?
[08:27] <Mwa> but I restarted it after about a minute.
[08:27] <PhantomLink> rather than fixing the occasional sneaky virus all the timne :D
[08:27] <Mwa> Ooh something just happened
[08:27] <mgmuscari> Mwa: it could definitely take longer than a minute to load, especially from an external drive
[08:27] <jayesh>  i need to install Perl and its modules on my ubuntu
[08:27] <Mwa> It's spamming buffer i/o errors, end_request i/o errors and SQUASHFS errors.
[08:28] <mgmuscari> ah...
[08:28]  * Mwa sighs
[08:28] <theadmin> Does anyone know why Karmic flashes between "Boot from hd(0,0) ext4 long number here ; please wait" and white karmic logo when booting? It's minor, but annoying me.
[08:28] <koshari1> PhantomLink i never really had issues with virii , malware ect , its the freely available tools that do it for me,
[08:28] <mgmuscari> Mwa: check the media
[08:28] <Mwa> that means the disk is corrupted right?
[08:28] <mgmuscari> Mwa: could be
[08:29] <PhantomLink> mine boots from ex3
[08:29] <jayesh> Hi theadmin  all this is my issue
[08:29] <jayesh> I have been trying to install bugzilla on my Ubuntu 9.10. I have managed to install some of the modules required for bugzilla, but not able to install some mandatory modules like 1. DateTime, 2. DateTime::TimeZone, 3. Email::Send 4. Email::MIME::Encodings I have tried to install these modules using CPAN , and tried to install using apt , also manually. When tried to install Date Time module by manually got these results.
[08:29] <jayesh> 1 step: unzipped the downloaded zip - this worked
[08:29] <jayesh> 2 after entering to the extracted file I tried to run - /Desktop/Class-MOP-0.94$ perl Makefile.PL
[08:29] <FloodBot2> jayesh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:29] <PhantomLink> ext3
[08:29] <jayesh> and got
[08:29] <PhantomLink> does the ext# thing have to do with what usb port you use to install/run ubuntu with when using an external drive?
[08:30] <theadmin> PhantomLink: Well, ext is a file system... but i can't respond to that question
[08:30] <mgmuscari> PhantomLink: ext3 is a filesystem, not a device
[08:30] <PhantomLink> Oh?
[08:30] <Flannel> jayesh: bugzilla is in the repositories
[08:30] <PhantomLink> So it doesn't matter if I boot from a different USB port?
[08:30] <media> BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000000000000010 why do i get this on a asrock with 9.10 ?
[08:30] <mgmuscari> PhantomLink: your devices are listed under /dev
[08:30] <PhantomLink> I've always been paranoid and used the same port I used to install with.
[08:31] <theadmin> PhantomLink: Lolz.
[08:31] <mgmuscari> media: somebody made a programming error
[08:31] <PhantomLink> I mainly only use the Vista VM for Cooledit :D
[08:32] <theadmin> PhantomLink: Doesn't work under WINE? :(
[08:32] <Miansc> I just downlaoded some source code, it was in a .bin file... why can't I open it
[08:32] <PhantomLink> Nope.
[08:32] <PhantomLink> :(
[08:32] <media> mgmuscari: ok thx what does it depend on ? the nvidia driver ?
[08:32] <PhantomLink> Cool Edit Pro 2.0 gets stuck in the boot process.
[08:32] <theadmin> Miansc: You need to compile the code i guess.
[08:32] <PhantomLink> I should tell that to them eventually.
[08:32] <Miansc> Ohh. How do I do that?
[08:32] <koshari1> theadmin a bin would be already compiled
[08:32] <PhantomLink> It gets stuck at "Building Menus..."
[08:32] <Miansc> It's java btw.
[08:32] <mgmuscari> media: a NULL pointer dereference happens when a piece of code tries to look at memory that hasn't been initialized, it's a programming error, not a missing dependency
[08:32] <PhantomLink> @ theadmin
[08:32] <theadmin> koshari1: Oh.
[08:32] <theadmin> Miansc: How do you run it?
[08:33] <newbie_ubuntu> i try to upgrade 9.04 to 9.10
[08:33] <Miansc> .jar
[08:33] <hanno> Hi
[08:33] <PhantomLink> How much longer will 8.10 be supported?
[08:33] <theadmin> Miansc: No, what command do you use?
[08:33] <newbie_ubuntu> i gave gksu command as shown in ubuntu help
[08:33] <koshari1> Miansc a jar is a java archive
[08:33] <mgmuscari> Miansc: .jar should be an archive
[08:33] <b0w> hello! how can i get a grub2 prompt to choose what to boot?? i dont get it never
[08:33] <theadmin> PhantomLink: Until april 2010
[08:33] <Miansc> ohh
Sorry if I never answered back I was away :P
[08:33] <Miansc> I just run in wine
[08:33] <media> mgmuscari: yes i understand that it is a programming problem but i need to figuer out what kind of files doing this
[08:33] <newbie_ubuntu> i dont see any upgrade box
[08:33] <newbie_ubuntu> why?
[08:33] <Miansc> theres a windows version too
[08:33] <Jordan_U> b0w: Hold shift during boot
[08:33] <koshari1> Miansc you coud prolly get it to run in FF
[08:34] <Miansc> Ok ill try
[08:34] <b0w> Jordan_U: thanks :)
[08:34] <theadmin> newbie_ubuntu: Run "update-manager"... what do you see?
[08:34] <Jordan_U> b0w: np :)
[08:34] <mgmuscari> media: oh, you don't know what process is barfing that up?
[08:34] <mgmuscari> media: where are you seeing the error?
[08:34] <PhantomLink> grr connection lag
[08:34] <damagednoob> i have a weird problem. I updated to Karmic Koala and know certain dialog buttons in eclipse have stopped working. Any ideas?
[08:34] <PhantomLink> how much longer will 8.10 be supported?
[08:34] <Miansc> Where can I download some open source apps
[08:34] <media> mgmuscari: in the apport report
[08:34] <fool__> mgmuscari: pm ?
[08:34] <theadmin> PhantomLink: I said... Until april 2010
[08:34] <Jordan_U> Miansc: Applications > Add / Remove
[08:34] <Miansc> I wanna start developing
[08:34] <koshari1> Miansc from the repositories
[08:35] <Miansc> Ok
[08:35] <PhantomLink> theadmin: connection lag stole that answer from me :(  - thankies
[08:35] <mgmuscari> fool__: hm?
[08:35] <koshari1> Miansc do you want to develop java?
[08:35] <Miansc> Mainly c++
[08:35] <cybersplice> Morning folks.
[08:35] <Jordan_U> Miansc: If you find an application you want to help develop you can get it's source code with "apt-get source <package-name>"
[08:35] <PhantomLink> So I should think about upgrading soon?
[08:35] <Miansc> Ok good.
[08:36] <hanno> I've got a problem. I bought a new harddisk. So i copied my old harddrive to the new one with dd. Afterwards I resized the partitions, because the new drive is bigger. Ubuntu is booting, but it seems it does not recognizes the new partition size. And it does not find the tmpfs partition.
[08:36] <PhantomLink> I have 8.10
[08:36] <zzzzzZZZZzzz> night night
[08:36] <hanno> night
[08:36] <Jordan_U> Miansc: And you can install all of the libraries required to compile it with "sudo apt-get build-dep <package-name>"
[08:37] <koshari1> PhantomLink 10.4 would prolly be a good time to upgrade, it will be LTS version
[08:37] <Miansc> cool
[08:37] <Miansc> im saving these commands in a txt file
[08:37] <chu> Hey guys, 3rd re-install of the day argh.. Just fixing up my fstab now how do I find the UUID of a partition? (my /home which I believe is on /dev/hda5)
[08:37] <PhantomLink> I have Intrepid Ibex
[08:38] <koshari1> hanno could you not have made the partition first and used rsync?
[08:38] <Jordan_U> chu: blkid
[08:38] <meowpup> btw can i run ubuntu in ram same as puppy linux
[08:38] <PhantomLink> omg
[08:38] <PhantomLink> I've been pronouncing ubuntu wrong for so long! D:
[08:38]  * PhantomLink shares butterfingers with everyone
[08:38] <Jordan_U> meowpup: IIRC yes, by adding the "toram" kernel parameter
[08:38] <b0w_> if i have a karmic 9.10 clean install why do i have grub 1.97~4??? shouldnt i have grub2?
[08:39] <koshari1> meowpup thats effectively what a live session does
[08:39] <jayesh> Any one there to help me to install perl and its modules on Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[08:39] <Jordan_U> b0w_: 1.97 is grub 2, and 0.97 is grub 1 ( now called grub legacy )
[08:40] <meowpup> koshari1: to a degree. but you still need cd in drive. puppy runs compleatly in ram and ejects cd
[08:40] <b0w_> Jordan_U: hehe thanks again:) by any chance you know a good tutorial to change grub2 image?
[08:40] <Jordan_U> b0w_: With open source projects it's common for 1.0 to be an extremely signifigant milestone, wine for instance didn't release 1.0 for over a decade
[08:40] <elvischen> join #ubuntu-cn
[08:40] <koshari1> meowpup use a USB device, where does the ram load from with puppy?
[08:40] <thermal_> is it possible to get the osx expose show all windows effect without using compiz?
[08:41] <koshari1>  thermal you mean scale?
[08:41] <thermal_> koshari1, yeah
[08:41] <Jordan_U> b0w_: Grub legacy never made it to that milestone but it looks like grub2 will
[08:41] <mseiler> update problem from 9.04 to 9.10:  I have a fully encrypted harddisk and menu.lst has root=/dev/mapper/user ro quiet splash. After update reboot fails: waiting for /dev/mapper/user
[08:41] <koshari1> thermal_ yes you can, just set the correct binding
[08:42] <thermal_> koshari1, so wait, there is a non compiz way of doing the window scale effect to see everything on the desktop?
[08:42] <b0w> Jordan_U: yeah heheh its looks like theyll do it, do you know any good tutorial to change its image?
[08:42] <hanno> kosharil i did not knew of that program :-) But it is working. The only problem is, that ubuntu does not recognizes the new partitionsize. Windows did an chkdisk and recognized it. But trying fsck /dev/hda2 using knoppix didn't help.
[08:42] <Jordan_U> thermal_: You can use gnome-shell or kwin but whatever you use will have the same requirements as compiz
[08:42] <chu> Cool, so I found the UUID and I have the mount point and type, what to put for options? (default?) dump? and pass?
[08:42] <thermal_> well compiz is no go, using xinerama :/
[08:43] <theadmin> Hm. On #winehq they say to not use compiz with Wine. How do i turn it off? Just switch off desktop effects?
[08:43] <thermal_> although I have my eyes glued on the thread by d2globalinc about compiz fusion and multiple vid cards
[08:43] <Sertse> doeseverything get redirected here.. release-party, ubuntu+1...
[08:43] <thermal_> because this is awesome:
[08:43] <thermal_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DWzuIreDGA
[08:44] <mseiler> no one?
[08:44] <Miansc> I can work it out
[08:44] <Miansc> Im trying to get the source for KOrgainzer
[08:44] <r00t_ninja> mseiler: what do you need?
[08:44] <Jordan_U> b0w: Not off hand, when I tried two years ago it was a hastle but there it's probably better now
[08:45] <b0w> Jordan_U: ok thanks for your help
[08:45] <Jordan_U> b0w: np
[08:45] <koshari1> thermal_ not afaik
[08:45] <youngtill1die> who can help me to configure wifi pcmcia card?
[08:45] <mseiler> well, see above- I need to know if the new grub version expects a different setting in the menu.lst to get the right /dev/mapper device on fully encrypted hard disk
[08:46] <napster> Need help...! Anyone free...?
[08:46] <dread> Где русская поддержка ?
[08:46] <thermal_> koshari1, ok well I guess I'll just wait a bit longer, it will be released eventually, was just hoping to find something in the mean time
[08:46] <Gnea> !ask | napster
[08:46] <kwork> !ru dread
[08:46] <napster> Gnea: ok
[08:46] <dread> !кг
[08:46] <dread> !ru
[08:46] <theadmin> !ru | dread
[08:46] <zippy> dread ???
[08:46] <napster> Gnea: My proble is with apt
[08:46]  * PhantomLink gives theadmin a traffic cone.
[08:47] <Gnea> napster: you're going to simply have to say what the problem is to the channel.
[08:47] <theadmin> PhantomLink: Huh!?
[08:47] <napster> ubottu: I know. Sorry
[08:47] <koshari1> what does super-e do outside of compiz?
[08:47]  * PhantomLink gives theadmin a speaker.
[08:47] <PhantomLink> !offtopic
[08:47] <mgmuscari> does karmic support hot-swappable video that some laptops offer? i.e. my thinkpad has an intel gma something and an ati firegl v5700 mobility... the bios supports dynamic selection based on power scheme
[08:47] <kadoban> i'm having audio problems after update to 9.10.  sound works fine in all KDE apps (amarok, dragon player, KDE's System Settings ->Multimedia), doesn't work at all in gtk apps (firefox (flash plugin), mplayer, rhythmbox).  when i try to test Pulse Audio in System Settings -> Multimedia, it doesn't work (no sound output).  anyone had ideas of how to diagnose?  nothing looks relevent in dmesg or the like.  thanks.
[08:47] <PhantomLink> That's what I needed. ^_^
[08:47] <napster> Gnea: I've a slow internet connection and need dist upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10
[08:48] <Gnea> napster: that's your problem, not ours
[08:48] <napster> Gnea: Can I download packges from another computer..?
[08:48] <napster> Gnea: And upgrade my system
[08:48] <theadmin> napster: You can download the alternate CD at http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/ubuntu-9.10-alternate-i386.iso and use it to upgrade.
[08:48] <r00t_ninja> download an alternative install and you can use it to upgrade
[08:48] <FiReSTaRT> mgmuscari: what do you mean by hot-swappable video? like plugging in an additional display (eg. your tv), while the machine is running?
[08:48] <Gnea> napster: I suppose... the alternate cd could help
[08:48] <r00t_ninja> ^^ beat ne ti it
[08:48] <b0w> napster: download the .iso file burn it and install it on the other pc
[08:48] <r00t_ninja> wtf
[08:48] <r00t_ninja> my typing is horrible
[08:49] <hanno> kosharil, if i take a look at the partition size at the partition manager the partitions are shown. And they have the right size.
[08:49] <mgmuscari> FiReSTaRT: my laptop has two video cards...  by default the bios enables switching between video cards to save power
[08:49] <napster> Gnea: But I have to keep my customizations...!
[08:49] <Gnea> napster: backup your data before upgrading
[08:49] <FiReSTaRT> mgmuscari: can't help you on that one... mine's only running the nvidia 8400
[08:49] <r00t_ninja> you dont need to
[08:49] <mgmuscari> FiReSTaRT: wondering if karmic supports that now... didn't work in jaunty
[08:49] <theadmin> napster: Using the alternate CD, you will keep them. Just put it in the drive after booting. And it will suggest to upgrade
[08:49] <mgmuscari> FiReSTaRT: thx
[08:49] <koshari1> napster just save your home dir, all your settings are in the .folders
[08:49] <napster> Gnea: Not the backup. But the programs I've installed
[08:49] <vegombrei> hey guys i just installed the new ubuntu64 .. its awesome i must hand it to them ..
[08:50] <Gnea> napster: the upgrade 'upgrades' them
[08:50] <FiReSTaRT> mgmuscari: you may wanna try in about 6-10 hours, that's when more people from north america are up and they're more likely to have these more advanced hardware configs
[08:50] <napster> Gnea: I'll try...! Just a minute
[08:50] <r00t_ninja> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[08:50] <koshari1> napster the proggies will be newer versions, but you still use the settings in your home dir
[08:50] <r00t_ninja> read the Upgrading Using the Alternate CD/DVD
[08:50] <mgmuscari> FiReSTaRT: lol yeah i'm just always up at these hours... i'm a bit of an insomniac, and i only have classes later in the day
[08:50] <om26er> haha
[08:51] <vegombrei> question: how do i update codecs in the new 9.10 64? tried medibuntu stuff but i still see frames sometimes in totem ... vlc works fine tho
[08:51] <om26er> vegombrei: ubuntu restricted extras
[08:51] <om26er> try them
[08:51] <vegombrei> om26er: ok brb
[08:51] <vegombrei> om26er: erm .. how do i do that again?
[08:52] <gartral> alright, Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic on a new i7 860 and flash 10.. hulu's buttons for dimming the lights, switching res, and fullscreen aren't working...
[08:52] <FiReSTaRT> mgmuscari: same here.. visiting europe and can't believe i'm up and about this early.. btw. the forum seems to be slim pickings on the topic http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=865617
[08:52] <r00t_ninja> gartral: you installed flash and ms fonts?
[08:52]  * Gnea prefers to use the official hulu app
[08:52] <mgmuscari> yeah, i noticed the slim pickings
[08:52] <gartral> Gnea: app? hmm?
[08:52] <gartral> r00t_ninja: ms fonts, no
[08:52] <Gnea> gartral: it's on hulu's site, they made versions for ubuntu
[08:52] <r00t_ninja> try them
[08:52] <napster> koshari1: I just have to make a dist upgrade and not need a clean install and need to keep my softwares I've installed in jaunty. Everything will be ok with alternate 'upgrade'..?
[08:52] <kokos> how to go to my desktop?
[08:52] <r00t_ninja> some flash applications need them
[08:53] <Gnea> gartral: it's a standalone app to browse and watch hulu - it's pretty efficient
[08:53] <chu> Hey, where do I download the nvidia drivers? synaptic?
[08:53] <kokos> -D cd /Desktop?
[08:53] <Slart> chu: tried the hardware drivers thingy?
[08:53] <napster> kokos: what is your pwd?
[08:53] <Gnea> chu: yup - just click on system->administration->hardware drivers  and 'activate'
[08:54] <kokos> pwd?
[08:54] <chu> I see :)
[08:54] <Slart> kokos: try   cd ~/Desktop
[08:54] <napster> I just have to make a dist upgrade and not a clean install and need to keep my softwares I've installed in jaunty. Everything will be ok with alternate cd's 'upgrade' option..?
[08:54] <Gnea> kokos: present working directory
[08:54] <r00t_ninja> yes
[08:54] <napster> I just have to make a dist upgrade and not a clean install and need to keep my softwares I've installed in jaunty.Is everything will be ok with alternate cd's 'upgrade' option..?
[08:54] <Amnesia> could anyone help me out with iwconfig?
[08:54] <r00t_ninja> napster: yes
[08:54] <Miansc> Anyone one know what language pigdin was made in?
[08:55] <napster> Amnesia: Ask
[08:55] <gartral> Gnea: also, my time to connect to a website is far too long.. what could be bottleneaking my network?
[08:55] <Slart> Miansc: check their site
[08:55] <kokos> Start, it doesn't work
[08:55] <Gnea> gartral: I have no idea what your setup is like
[08:55] <mgmuscari> Miansc: see here: http://developer.pidgin.im/
[08:55] <napster> r00t_ninja: Thanks
[08:55] <r00t_ninja> as long as you do the way described at: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[08:55] <Miansc> Thanks
[08:55] <Amnesia> napster: I keep getting: Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :     invalid argument "qwerty12345".
[08:55] <Slart> kokos: yes it does, if you write it the way I did
[08:56] <Amnesia> when trying to set a wep key
[08:56] <chu> Ok, reboot time, cheers.
[08:56] <napster> Amnesia: Type /exec inxi -xN in this chat box
[08:56] <mgmuscari> Miansc: it's written in C
[08:56] <Miansc> So it was written all in c. What program should I use to edit the gui and code?
[08:56] <gartral> Gnea: pretty much fresh install of 9.10 on an i7 860 powering an EVGA p55 ftw, GTX 275, 4 gb RAM and 2tb hdd (1 tb Ubuntu, 1tb windows)
[08:56] <Spixx> anyone that are good at kerberos? It seems to hang when trying to run krb5_newrealm on a clean install :S?
[08:57] <Miansc> Haha, i found out :P
[08:57] <Amnesia> napster: Exec = an unknown command:p
[08:57] <mgmuscari> Miansc: you may want to start smaller... maybe try making a plugin. btw, pidgin isn't the default IM client in karmic
[08:57] <napster> Amnesia: Ur distro..?
[08:57] <Spixx> mgmuscari: and for that I hate ubuntu
[08:57] <Spixx> the new "client" is worse then pidigin :P
[08:57] <Miansc> True.. I was just gonna read the code
[08:57] <mgmuscari> Spixx: i plan to uninstall it and install pidgin as soon as i install 9.10
[08:57] <Miansc> and karmic?
[08:57] <Spixx> ;) it is allready done here
[08:58] <dibblego> is karmic a LTS?
[08:58] <mgmuscari> Miansc: good place to start... you can grab a copy of the source code and read it using any text editor
[08:58] <Slart> dibblego: nope
[08:58] <Amnesia> napster: currently on the karmic livec
[08:58] <Amnesia> d
[08:58] <napster> dibblego: No 10.04
[08:58] <dibblego> ok thanks
[08:58] <fool__> Miansc: write a text only client for telepathy :P
[08:58] <fool__> i'd surely use that
[08:58] <Miansc> sweet
[08:59] <media> dose anyone got dwa-140 to work in 9.10 ?
[08:59] <Miansc> umm
[08:59] <Miansc> whats that :)
[08:59] <ares623> i
[08:59] <napster> Amnesia: Then type the above command starting with /exec in the text box where you type your chats...
[08:59] <napster> Amnesia: Are you using XCHAT...?
[08:59] <fool__> Miansc: telepathy is the framework for empathy which replaces pidgin
[08:59] <Amnesia> na, webchat.freenode. net
[08:59] <Amnesia> behind @ proxy
[09:00] <Miansc> :O
[09:00] <Miansc> What do u think I am , lol.
[09:00] <ares623> i'm reformating my PC now.. I partitioned my 50GB of my hd for WinXP.. can I install Ubuntu later for the rest of the harddrive?
[09:00] <napster> Gnea: There?
[09:01] <napster> Gnea: Get Amnesia ....
[09:01] <napster> Amnesia: Pls wait
[09:01] <phphorse> hi, is it true, that the downloadspeed of a 200 mb-file is very faster as by a 4 gb-file?
[09:01] <jordan> hey guys.. does anyone know why there are no icons for the system menu??
[09:01] <Amnesia> sure, thanks;)
[09:01] <iceroot> is it possible, that if a program is closed (e.g. firefox, kontact, konversation) that it will automaticly be restarted? maybe there is a tool for this so i dint have to start it, ask for pid and if pid isnt there anymore i have to restart the program
[09:02] <kokos> how to go to my pulpit in terminal?
[09:02] <Fizix> Greetings.
[09:02] <indus_> ares623: sure
[09:03] <Fizix> Anyone know how to restore the ctrl+alt+F# hotkey on Karmic so I can access the terminal and close the gui?
[09:05] <mgmuscari> wait... tty's are disabled in karmic?
[09:05] <Spixx> Yes
[09:05] <Fizix> it seems so :
[09:05] <mgmuscari> O_o
[09:05] <Spixx> ;)
[09:05] <Spixx> how come?
[09:05] <phphorse> kokos: you mean desktop. you're from poland yes? :-D -> cd /home/your-username/Desktop
[09:05] <Spixx> ctr+alt f2 works
[09:06] <Slart> mgmuscari: nope.. they still work
[09:06] <mgmuscari> Slart: ok, good....
[09:06] <mgmuscari> hey, considering some other things i've been hearing, one never knows
[09:06] <Fizix> oey vey, not for me it doesn't. I only have some basic compiz gui-ness running to, so there's no Emerald or Metacity theme funkiness that could be messing it up either
[09:06] <mgmuscari> and after ctrl+alt+backspace was disabled by default in jaunty...
[09:07] <media> mgmuscari:  thx for your help i think it was ndiswrapper that was the problem
[09:07] <Miansc> One more question.... (FOR TONIGHT xD)   Whats a good repleacement for Visual studio on ubuntu... something maybe that included java too
[09:07] <Miansc> and gui design
[09:07] <mgmuscari> media: no problem
[09:07] <mgmuscari> Miansc: if you want a robust Java ide, get Eclipse
[09:08] <ubuntu> beg pardon. would u please tell me the way to the German ubunut-IRC-Channel?
[09:08] <rd1381> i tried to install unubtu from cd image but grub failed
[09:08] <rd1381> can sombody help me?
[09:08] <nurettin> #mythbuntu
[09:08] <Miansc> eclipse has c++/c/vb too ?
[09:08] <Fizix> I like Geany for C++ and C
[09:08] <Fizix> It's lean and gets the job done
[09:09] <albasheers> when i play audio or video file , there is a delay of 10 seconds in playing its audio
[09:09] <rd1381> plz , have somebody here installed ubuntu 9.10 from cd image on harddrive?
[09:09] <Miansc> geany looks good
[09:09] <Fizix> Yes, I have.
[09:09] <Slart> !de | ubuntu-Live-CD:
[09:09] <Miansc> can u make guis in it?
[09:10] <Miansc> Fizix.. are u  the one and only ? :P
[09:10] <ruediix> rd1381 I've only installed things from CD-Images on hard drives into virtual machines.
[09:10] <rd1381> no
[09:10] <Fizix> Miansc: I'd be lying if I told you I knew. I only have it for my C++ class and we've been doing pretty basic stuff
[09:10] <Gnea> napster: amnesia?
[09:10] <palmje> Miansc: I'm a fan of the vim + makefile (or just running the tools direct)
[09:10] <Miansc> oh ok
[09:10] <Miansc> Ok
[09:11] <Amnesia> Gnea:  yo?
[09:11] <FazLeeeN> Hello, not going to explain how noob i am (gonna figure out in a sec), just wondering which one should I use, emacs gtk or client, any idea?
[09:11] <Miansc> Fizix, are u the creator of the point gainer?
[09:11] <ruediix> rd1381: Well, I don't know how to get things to boot to a CDROM image without burning it.   Your best bet is to make a thumb drive if you don't want to burn.
[09:11] <Fizix> So, no like 'sudo fix fizix-tty pls' command I could just copy & paste in my terminal so I can get my hotkeys working again, eh?
[09:11] <rd1381> i mean like this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[09:11] <napster> Please get me the link to the alternate cd of karmic.
[09:11] <napster> Please get me the link to the alternate cd of karmic.
[09:11] <Fizix> Mainsc, lol, no I am not.
[09:12] <Miansc> :P
[09:12] <Miansc> You know what it is?
[09:12] <rd1381> it load fine and installs fine but upon restartiing its grub menu has became scaterd and there is no ubuntu in it
[09:12] <mgmuscari> FazLeeeN: install the emacs metapackage
[09:12] <Slart> !alternate | napster
[09:12] <Amnesia> napster: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/karmic-alternate-i386.iso
[09:12] <rd1381> i am tring to install it along vista and suse
[09:12] <Miansc> Ohh and geany has php python c++ java.. guess ill be usin g that
[09:12] <Amnesia> thats 32 bits though
[09:12] <mgmuscari> emacs-gtk is emacs that runs in an X window
[09:13] <FazLeeeN> mgmuscari, i've already installs "emacs", should I install the metapackage now?
[09:13] <ruediix> rd1381:  That method is similar to what the thumb drive utilitity does.  (It's exactly what it does if you don't add free space and make it read/write.)
[09:13] <mgmuscari> FazLeeeN: press alt+f2, type in emacs, and hit enter
[09:13] <hatchetman82> anyone know how i can change the port mapping for my sound card (i have the earphones connected to the aux-in)
[09:13] <hatchetman82> ?
[09:13] <napster> Amnesia: Thank you...
[09:13] <rd1381> so why my grub menu is not right
[09:13] <mgmuscari> hatchetman82: may not be possible depending on your hardware
[09:13] <Amnesia> yw
[09:14] <mgmuscari> that port may only be connected to an A2D converter
[09:14] <mgmuscari> not vice versa
[09:14] <ruediix> rd1381:  I'm not sure, I've always used thumb drives which use syslinux
[09:14] <reni__> Hey guys! Can I run terminal console from XChat?
[09:14] <hatchetman82> mgmuscari: i know its possible (the realtek driver under windows does it), but im trying to find the equivalent utility on ubuntu
[09:14] <FazLeeeN> mgmuscari, ok thanks
[09:14] <rd1381> i know about usb but my problem is not installation
[09:14] <ruediix> rd1381: You'll probably need someone else if it's a grub issue.  I could help you on RAMDISK ones.
[09:14] <rd1381> its grub menu
[09:15] <mgmuscari> hatchetman82: not sure how to configure that but it sounds like it depends on your driver... install the alsamixer package and see what device mixers you have available to you
[09:15]  * hatchetman82 installs alsa-mixer
[09:15] <Amnesia> napster: so you don't know?
[09:16] <napster> Amnesia: Nope
[09:16] <hatchetman82> alsamixergui or gnome-alsamixer ?
[09:16] <Amnesia> hm 'kay
[09:16] <reni__> guys can I start terminal from xchat?
[09:16] <napster> Amnesia: But I'm also using a wifi connection with WEP
[09:16] <kokos> phphorse, i'm from poland, :D
[09:16] <Amnesia> wep sux:p
[09:16] <Amnesia> but its just for testing purposes, so I know how to do it
[09:16] <Amnesia> next step is wpa + wpa supplicant
[09:17] <napster> Amnesia: Yeeesh.....!
[09:17] <phphorse> kokos: best regards! I'm from germany, but I speak polish well.
[09:17] <Andorin> Is it possible for xchat to screw up my Internet connection? For a few days now, I'll send a message to a channel in xchat and my connection will die for a moment. I'll have to restart xchat... because of this, I'm thinking of switching to another client, but I'm not sure what to use.
[09:17] <reni__> I remember in win's mIRC a command "/run" that did use to allow executing commands from the mIRC client. Is there an equivalent in XChat - I need to run a terminal console
[09:17] <varunthacker> how to change the password of the network keyring
[09:18] <ruediix> I only use WEP when I want to remind people my network isn't they're playground, but I don't really care if they log on.
[09:19] <DjAngo23> Since the upgrade to 9.10 there is no sound available on my computer:  Realtek ALC883 (Fujistsu Siemens Amilo Pi 2530)
[09:19] <john-saint> hi all. does anyone know how i can install a webcam? its an sn9c102. im not very good when it comes to coding so any help would be great
[09:19] <ruediix> I've been having sound issues too.  Mine "clicks"
[09:19] <Amnesia> DjAngo23: compile your sound driver on the kernel you're using
[09:20] <reni__> Guys can anyone tell me if I have erm.... a strange edited version of gnome-desktop installed - what will happen if I reinstall it?
[09:20] <napster> How to generate names of all packages that need to be downloaded by apt..(with or without using apt)?
[09:20] <reni__> Will I have the same desktop settings
[09:20] <kokos> nie moge wejsc na pulpit ;/
[09:20] <beatbreaker> ohay - is there a command to give me ram timmings in the command line?
[09:21] <napster> Amaranth: How to generate names of all packages that need to be downloaded by apt..(with or without using apt)?
[09:21] <DjAngo23> Amnesia: Could you explain that for me ?
[09:21] <napster> FloodBot1:  How to generate names of all packages that need to be downloaded by apt..(with or without using apt)?
[09:21] <Amnesia> DjAngo23: lookup what sound chipset you've got, and then look for the module
[09:21]  * Blues-Man sends goodmorning to all
[09:21] <kokos> phphorse, nie dziala mi cd, nie moge wejsc
[09:21] <Amnesia> google is the word:p
[09:22] <napster> Gnea:   How to generate names of all packages that need to be downloaded by apt..(with or without using apt)?
[09:22] <varunthacker> how to change the password of the network keyring?
[09:22] <Slart> !repeat | napster
[09:22] <Miansc> I read a tut on making shorcuts for windows programs
[09:23] <Vashta_Nerada> is there some sort of vm ware that i should install if i want to support multiple sites from one machine?
[09:23] <napster> How to generate names of all packages that need to be downloaded by apt..(with or without using apt)?
[09:23] <Miansc> to run trough wine
[09:23] <Miansc> through*
[09:23] <Miansc> Cant get it to work though
[09:23] <Spixx> Vashta_Nerada: websites?
[09:23] <Vashta_Nerada> yes
[09:23] <Balsaq> when you take all the upgrades including 9.04 does ubuntu generally then play you tube and vids or is there still more to do
[09:23] <oliver3> Does anyone know off the top of their heads which package contains the latex doublespace package?
[09:23] <Slart> napster: please wait at least 15 minutes.. (not 15 seconds) before you repeat your question
[09:23] <napster> Slart: Oh sorry...!
[09:23] <Spixx> Vashta_Nerada: why do that? Apache can handle multiple sites on one ip
[09:24] <Spixx> Vashta_Nerada: check out the "virtual-host"
[09:24] <Vashta_Nerada> ok
[09:24] <Vashta_Nerada> that's an apache thing?
[09:24] <Spixx> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/18
[09:24] <Spixx> all major usable httpd's will do it to some extent
[09:24] <Spixx> apache got a pretty elaborate way of doing this
[09:25] <Vashta_Nerada> thanks, i'll start reading
[09:25] <Spixx> check the folder /etc/apache/hosts-enabled and host-available
[09:25] <kraut> moin
[09:25] <meowpup> hey whats the inxi command to give os version and basic computer specks
[09:26] <s> need advice
[09:27] <naut> I have a USB scanner. (HP C5280) I've installed Ubuntu server 9.10 (32 bit version) on my box. If I log on to a terminal on the box as the default user, I can use scanimage. However if I log in over an ssh session, scanimage won't find my scanner unless I run it as root. Any ideas why?
[09:27] <DjAngo23> Amnesia: It's onboard, so ... But lspci gives me : 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[09:27] <Avash> ?me tried to boot from live cd but it only showed initramfs so asks if there is any solution
[09:27] <Vashta_Nerada> thanks guys, I love coming here... you save me tons of direction hunting, and surprisingly no sarcasm
[09:27]  * Avash tried to boot from live cd but it only showed initramfs so asks if there is any solution
[09:27] <indus> Avash: type continue at the initramfs prompt
[09:28] <indus> Avash: and wait a few seconds
[09:28] <Avash> and..
[09:28] <Avash> indus, will it work
[09:28] <naut> meowpup, uname -a will give you kernel specs
[09:28] <indus_> Avash: could you state your problem again please
[09:28] <Avash> indus, but i think i have done it before too
[09:29] <indus> Avash: which live cd, what motherboard ,
[09:29] <naut> meowpup, lspci will give you most of your hardware
[09:29] <beatbreaker> s, !ask
[09:29] <Avash> live cd of 8.04 in mother board DG41 indus
[09:29] <naut> and lsusb will give you any usb peripherals
[09:29] <naut> off the top of my head
[09:29] <Amnesia> DjAngo23: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=747054
[09:29] <indus> Avash:sure the cd is good?
[09:29] <Avash> yes
[09:30] <Avash> indus, yes
[09:30] <indus> Avash: when you boot up the system, could you tell me if the cd rom is set to master or slave
[09:30] <naut> I have a USB scanner. (HP C5280) I've installed Ubuntu server 9.10 (32 bit version) on my box. If I log on to a terminal on the box as the default user, I can use scanimage. However if I log in over an ssh session, scanimage won't find my scanner unless I run it as root. Any ideas why?
[09:30] <Avash> indus, and may i bring a point of fedora roo
[09:30] <Amigadude> how do you kill all copies of a running program?
[09:30] <Avash> i dont know it indus
[09:30] <Avash> indus, i have only one dvd drive
[09:30] <indus> Avash: just watch the first bios screen, it will mention it
[09:30] <KB1JWQ> Amigadude: killall, or a bash for loop.
[09:30] <indus> Avash: primary master : none primary slave : some device etc
[09:30] <Avash> indus, what will it show?
[09:31] <Avash> indus, so if it is primary i have to make it master?
[09:31] <indus> Avash: wait but in your case i think it should not be a problem
[09:31] <Avash> indus, yea
[09:31] <indus> Avash: did you check cd for defects?
[09:31] <Avash> indus, and may i bring a point of fedora too,
[09:31] <indus> Avash: yeah please do
[09:31] <Amigadude> got 12million copies of music player running
[09:31] <Avash> indus, i used that cd just a day ago before changing my MB
[09:32] <indus> Avash: is this an amd motherboard or intel?
[09:32] <reni__> how do I reinstall gnome?
[09:32] <Avash> fedora also does not install now after i changed the motherboard
[09:32] <Avash> indus, intel
[09:32] <Avash> indus, fedora also does not install now after i changed the motherboard
[09:32] <eL_pSycHo> hi.. i was wondering is anyone knows if its possible to make compiz effects like the expo look smoother.
[09:32] <indus> Avash: ok  you changed board yourself?
[09:33] <Avash> indus, no
[09:33] <chu> Crashed 3 times *during* upgrade! Not doing that again.
[09:33] <Amigadude> KB1JWQ: how do I find the process name?
[09:33] <Slart> eL_pSycHo: isn't there a setting for "number of zoom" steps or something like that in ccsm?
[09:33] <naut> eL_pSycHo, is DRI working for you?
[09:33] <meowpup> anyone know what a "pentium m" is
[09:33] <meowpup> how old ^
[09:33] <KB1JWQ> Amigadude: ps
[09:33] <indus> Avash: just watch the bios screen and tell me if your cd drive is slave or master
[09:33] <naut> meowpup, not too old
[09:33] <indus> Avash: go reboot
[09:33] <eL_pSycHo> naut: whats DRI?
[09:33] <naut> less than 5 years I think
[09:33] <Avash> indus, will you be here tomorrow also
[09:33] <eL_pSycHo> Slart: let me check
[09:33] <Avash> indus, i am in office now
[09:33] <danielle> el_pSycho please ask in compiz channel
[09:33] <ryuho> for 9.10, japanese is installed through System -> Admin -> Language Support, and anthy is installed through apt-get, but option for japanese doesn't come up in SCIM, what am i doing wrong?
[09:33] <naut> eL_pSycHo, direct rendering interface
[09:33] <reni__> hey guys can anyone tell me how to reinstall gnome desktop?
[09:33] <naut> hang on there's a way to check..
[09:34] <indus> Avash: ill be here
[09:34] <Avash> indus, i will tell  you hte result tomorrow
[09:34] <indus> Avash: ill tell you my problem, my dvd drive didnt work with any version above 8.04,
[09:34] <Avash> indus, and now i am using 9.04 but i dont like it
[09:34] <indus> Avash: i changed drive from slave to master and it worked
[09:34] <vegombrei> firefox keeps hanging when i restart after installing addons .. anyone facing a similar issue?? how did you fix this??
[09:34] <Avash> indus, ok i will try too
[09:35] <naut> eL_pSycHo, try 'glxinfo | grep -i dri'
[09:35] <Avash> indus, do you like 904
[09:35] <danielle> anybody know about debmirror i'm trying to find out if i can configure it to start download from last downloaded file if internet drops out
[09:35] <indus> Avash: but you r using 8.04 so i guess it wont matter master or slave
[09:35] <indus> Avash: i use 9.10 its nice
[09:35] <Avash> indus, it does not give me the effects that were in 8.04 so i dont like it
[09:35] <XelticSore> guys u ever had this problem
[09:35] <XelticSore> my ubuntu crashes every 2 min
[09:35] <XelticSore> that either i have to restart
[09:35] <XelticSore> or shutdown
[09:35] <indus> Avash: read thisvhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/425756
[09:35] <FloodBot2> XelticSore: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:35] <Avash> indus, i have heard taht 9.04 has blacklisted intel's graphic
[09:36] <eL_pSycHo> naut: nothing happened.
[09:36] <indus> Avash: yeah true
[09:36] <indus> Avash: could you try booting in safe mode and try
[09:36] <Avash> wha t? 8.04 or 9.04?
[09:36] <indus> Avash: difficult to troubleshoot if you r not near your system\
[09:36] <danielle> avash is that the same with 9.10?
[09:36] <Avash> yeah
[09:36] <XelticSore> can some1 help :P?
[09:36] <naut> eL_pSycHo, if you just run glxinfo does it give you anything
[09:36] <Avash> i donot have 9.10
[09:36] <reni__> guys, can you tell me how to reinstall gnome-desktop?
[09:36] <indus_> XelticSore: any particular symptttoms?
[09:36] <Avash> but planning to get it soon'
[09:36] <KB1JWQ> XelticSore: What do the logs say?
[09:37] <indus_> Avash: ok
[09:37] <KB1JWQ> XelticSore: Could also be a heat / RAM issue.
[09:37] <XelticSore> How can i see that.
[09:37] <XelticSore> well i dont see any loads of the ram
[09:37] <danielle> ok cause the intel is slow on my 945 chipset
[09:37] <indus_> XelticSore: go to system>admin>system logs
[09:37] <KB1JWQ> XelticSore: They're in /var/log
[09:37] <XelticSore> and i might leave any second now.
[09:37] <XelticSore> since im on ubuntu atm
[09:37] <Amigadude> KB1JWQ: cheers
[09:37] <KB1JWQ> Amigadude: Yup. :-)
[09:37] <KB1JWQ> pkill works.
[09:37] <danielle> but it still runs compiz-fusion :P
[09:38] <XelticSore> ok which log file indus_
[09:38] <indus> XelticSore: the kernel or system logs
[09:38] <indus> XelticSore: read just before shutdown
[09:38] <indus> XelticSore: is this a laptop
[09:38] <eL_pSycHo> naut: a whole bunch of stuff.. what am i looking for?
[09:38] <XelticSore> nope a desktop Computer.
[09:38] <Amigadude> my goof they weren't running I'd just added loads of mp3s to the panel... too used to picking files and dragging to the task bar to drop to add to playlists
[09:39] <XelticSore> its a 9.04 Ubuntu, running on a Dual Core, 2gb of ram
[09:39] <NET||abuse> hey guys.. was fine yesterday, i changed nothing and now compiz is broken,,, karmic, amd64, nvidia.   dell latitude d630 Nvidia NVS 135M
[09:39] <naut> eL_pSycHo, so if glxinfo is working and doesn't show anything for DRI, you probably don't have it working
[09:39] <naut> google ubuntu, your video card, and dri
[09:40] <naut> there will be pages out there
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:40] <NET||abuse> glxinfo spits out tons of Xlib: extension "GXL" missing on display " :0.0".
[09:40] <naut> I have a USB scanner. (HP C5280) I've installed Ubuntu server 9.10 (32 bit version) on my box. If I log on to a terminal on the box as the default user, I can use scanimage. However if I log in over an ssh session, scanimage won't find my scanner unless I run it as root. Any ideas why?
[09:40] <pwnedulongtime> is Virtual now being ignored in Karmic xorg.conf?
[09:40] <KB1JWQ> XelticSore: I'd guess heat.
[09:40] <KB1JWQ> XelticSore: But I'd check the logs to be sure. :-)
[09:40] <Mohero> GAH!
[09:40] <rd1381> i installed ubuntu along suse but its entry is not in grub menu , how can i add it
[09:41] <Mohero> why is it impossible to report bugs now!
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> naut: same account?
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> !bug | Mohero
[09:41] <naut> ActionParsnip, yes same account
[09:41] <XelticSore> KB1JWQ: i guess so, cuz so far my pc didnt crash,
[09:41] <indus> XelticSore: maybe some cron is running
[09:41] <XelticSore> indus: cron?
[09:41] <seb2> morning
[09:41] <OerHeks> reni__, sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[09:41] <SeriousBlack> Good Morning to all!...i'm on a windows 2003 domain with my Ubuntu 9.10. What is the optimal way to take a windows machine from my 9.10 usig remote desktop?
[09:41] <KB1JWQ> Night #ubuntul
[09:41] <naut> ActionParsnip, everything is the same, except terminal vs ssh session
[09:41] <indus> XelticSore: did you checlk the logs?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> naut: can't be a permissions thing then as its the same user, maybe scanimage doesnt like being ran with ssh
[09:42] <Mohero> "this process is not owned by you" - no, it isn't it's a damn system process that isn't working...
[09:42] <XelticSore> yeah im at the logs right now
[09:42] <rd1381> i installed ubuntu along suse but its entry is not in grub menu , how can i add it?
[09:42] <indus> XelticSore: see anything interesting? or maybe system is overheating?
[09:42] <jcdutton> SeriousBlack, Try gnome-rdp
[09:42] <indus> XelticSore: check the dmesg log
[09:42] <naut> ActionParsnip, but I can ruun it over ssh as root?
[09:42] <XelticSore> the last line on Nov 3 says this.
[09:42] <XelticSore> oh yeah
[09:42] <naut> All I have to do is sudo and it works
[09:42] <john-saint> hi all. does anyone know how i can install a webcam? its the sn9c102
[09:42] <fiatlux> Hello
[09:42] <meowpup> anyone know if there is a mac baised linux os
[09:42] <XelticSore> there is USR/SBIN/CRON
[09:42] <seb2> Got a weird problem on my home desktop machine.
[09:42] <Spixx> meowpup: what do you mean?
[09:42] <DjAngo23> Since the upgrade to 9.10 there is no sound available on my computer:  Realtek ALC883 (Fujistsu Siemens Amilo Pi 2530)
[09:42] <indus> XelticSore: dont worry about cron for now
[09:42] <seb2> The machine has no cdrom, I plugged one through USB.
[09:42] <SeriousBlack> thanks cheers!
[09:42] <eL_pSycHo> naut: i dont know if i have it working or not.. like i said there is a lot of info that command outputs. bunch of numbers and other stuff
[09:43] <indus> XelticSore: check dmesg
[09:43] <XelticSore> k sec
[09:43] <rd1381> nobody?
[09:43] <Spixx> meowpup: new apple runs on intel?
[09:43] <danielle> seriousblack fan of harrypotter i see :P
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> naut: This sounds like whats happening: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/sane-over-network-cant-find-scanner-201172/
[09:43] <koshari1> seb2 !ask
[09:43] <XelticSore> right im at the last lines
[09:43] <pwnedulongtime> what happened to dual monitor setup in karmic...it;s broken?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> naut: i'd see if there is a known issue with ssh + saned
[09:43] <seb2> koshari1: ??
[09:43] <SeriousBlack> hehe, i'm on the 4th book at the moment...
[09:43] <koshari1> !ask
[09:43] <seb2> !ask
[09:43] <naut> eL_pSycHo, you would expect to see the string dri in there if it was working
[09:43] <seb2> koshari1: I'm describing the problem
[09:43] <naut> ActionParsnip, I'll check that
[09:43] <fiatlux> can anyone recommend a small app to open .chm files?
[09:44] <john-saint> got a webcam problem!!!!
[09:44] <XelticSore> indus: what should i see
[09:44] <seb2> The machine freezes at boot time with USB cdrom plugged
[09:44] <erUSUL> fiatlux: xchm ?
[09:44] <Amigadude> is it worth upgrading 9.04 to 9.10 netbook edition? have they sorted out the slow video problems?
[09:44] <can-o-worms_> can someone please tell me how to force a fsck on the next boot
[09:44] <naut> I have been trying to set up saned ove the network and that doesn''t seem to work either
[09:44] <koshari1> seb2 ok
[09:44] <XelticSore> the last line says bridge firewalling registered
[09:44] <fiatlux> erUSUL: thank you
[09:44] <indus> XelticSore: check for time of shutdown, just before that
[09:44] <erUSUL> can-o-worms_: sudo /touch /forcefsck
[09:44] <iceroot> Amigadude: if you have an intel vga, yes, they are solved
[09:44] <Mohero> I am trying to report a bug on NetworkManager - the fact that by default they have disabled IPv6 - my systems don't get an address from RADVD anymore, if I set Network manager to Automatic for IPv6 - Network Manager times out before RADVD tells it what to use....
[09:44] <Slart> can-o-worms_: run "sudo touch /forcefsck"
[09:44] <erUSUL> can-o-worms_: sudo touch /forcefsck
[09:44] <nayfe> Hi, i have rather slow and old pc. when i tested 9.10 alpha, system was completly crashed and I had to  format and reinstall. is new stable upgrade safe for me?
[09:44] <seb2> The machines begins to swap, and all processes got killed by OOM.
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> fiatlux: i've found a guide to convert to html / pdf if that any good to you, or would you rather view it as-is?
[09:45] <naut> THe port is open, there is a service running on it, wireshark shows traffic when i run xsane, but no scanner is found
[09:45] <can-o-worms_> erUSUL: Slart thanks
[09:45] <jcdutton> fiatlux, there are masses of them. Just open the ubuntu software tool and search it for chm
[09:45] <seb2> If I boot without cdrom plugged, everything is fine.
[09:45] <Spixx> meowpup: what do you mean?
[09:45] <Amigadude> iceroot: cool :) yeah stuck on an Acer Aspire One
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> fiatlux: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-convert-chm-files-to-html-or-pdf-files.html
[09:45] <XelticSore> indus: there are to many lines here, i tried CTRL+F and search for shutdown, but nothing was found
[09:45] <rd1381> i installed ubuntu along suse but its entry is not in grub menu , how can i add it?
[09:45] <Termana> nayfe: The latest Karmic release would be much more stable than the Alpha builds. I would test to see if it works.
[09:45] <Amigadude> off to update
[09:46] <koshari1> rd1381 grub legacy?
[09:46] <fiatlux> ActionParsnip: Thanks for that
[09:46] <indus> XelticSore: is there anything in particular you are doing at the time this shuts down?
[09:46] <rd1381> ???
[09:46] <rd1381> koshari1:what?
[09:46] <erUSUL> Termana: you want to add suse to ubuntu grub or the other way around ?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> rd1381: grub2 or grub
[09:46] <rd1381> koshari1:grub
[09:46] <rd1381> koshari1:opensuse grub
[09:46] <Termana> erUSUL: Pardon?
[09:46] <XelticSore> indus: i tried to do nothing and it still worked, Ubuntu launch up i do nothing and after 2-3 min, everything stops working, i can still move my mouse though.
[09:46] <john-saint> need help insta;lling webcam!
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> !grub | rd1381
[09:47] <eL_pSycHo> naut: i see it.. it says direct rendering: yes
[09:47] <Termana> erUSUL: I think your addressing the wrong person. I didn't ask anything about grub.
[09:47] <agus> anyone know how to show drive disk in xfce?
[09:47] <erUSUL> Termana: ouch; wrong person :) sorry
[09:47] <indra_simon> hi guys
[09:47] <indus> XelticSore: look under power managerment and turn screensaver off
[09:47] <rd1381> that doesnt help me at all
[09:47] <koshari1> rd1381 i suspect it would jsur be a case of manually editing the menu.1s2 file in suse
[09:47] <jlgshk> #ubuntu-es
[09:47] <naut> eL_pSycHo, so it is working?
[09:47] <XelticSore> indus: could it be compiz?
[09:47] <rd1381> i know
[09:47] <Termana> erUSUL: np :P lol
[09:47] <indra_simon> anyone here know how to edit grub menu for ubuntu 9.10 the karmic koala
[09:47] <rd1381> but what i should add
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> john-saint: if you run:   lsusb   you will see a line that identifys it, you can use that to websearch for guides
[09:47] <XelticSore> indus: thats the last thing i remember installed yesterday
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | indra_simon
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> indra_simon: its a bit tricky
[09:48] <indra_simon> thnks guys
[09:48] <indra_simon> i'll look into it
[09:48] <erUSUL> !grub2 | indra_simon
[09:48] <eL_pSycHo> naut: i guess it is... it says yes... everything works fine... i just want it to look better.. with smoother textures. Expo looks bad on the edges.
[09:48] <rd1381> nobody???
[09:48] <indra_simon> erUSUL thank you, terima kasih
[09:48] <john-saint> actionparsnip: i know what sort it is its a sn9c102 but ive read that folks have a lot of problems installing this. ive tried it under wine app but amsn dont know its there
[09:48] <koshari1> rd1381 copy an existing entry but change the things that refer to the OS thats not on the list
[09:48] <rd1381> its not that simple
[09:49] <rd1381> suse uses disk ides
[09:49] <koshari1> rd1381 why not
[09:49] <rd1381> ids
[09:49] <koshari1> rd1381 you mean uuids?
[09:49] <rd1381> like this kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SP2504C_S09QJ1HL960974-part2 resume=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SP2504C_S09QJ1HL960974-part1
[09:49] <XelticSore> i dont have any screensavers on
[09:49] <XelticSore> indus: i think it was the heat...
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> john-saint: The 8 didgit hex code will find you linux guides. Wine wont work with the camif the system doesnt have it configured, wine only uses the available resources in the linux system
[09:49] <indus> XelticSore: you think?
[09:49] <XelticSore> indus: although its 18 degrees Celsius here..
[09:50] <indus> XelticSore: what heat
[09:50] <XelticSore> indus: tell me where i can check.
[09:50] <XelticSore> indus: lol :P
[09:50] <agus> is there any alternative powerdesigner on linux
[09:50] <john-saint> actionparsnip: so any idea where i need to look cus ive only been using this os for a week.
[09:50] <koshari1> rd1381 you may need to consult the suse support forum
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> john-saint: best way to learn, run   lsusb   in a terminal
[09:51] <naut> eL_pSycHo, I don't know that much about compiz or expo. Look at the configuration options maybe
[09:51] <rd1381> they dont know about ubutnu ext4
[09:51] <rd1381> and i am online in their irc
[09:51] <rd1381> but nodoby answers
[09:51] <indus> XelticSore: hmm somewhere in /proc
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> john-saint: one line will identify the device, copy the ID and paste it into a web search to see what you can find
[09:51] <koshari1> rd1381 otherwise as a workaround you could install ubuntus grub
[09:51] <john-saint> actionparsnip: thanks for the advice
[09:52] <rd1381> i cant
[09:52] <rd1381> i dont have cdrom
[09:52] <ngc2997> hm, how do i find out whether my printer is actually claimed by cups?
[09:52] <rd1381> and installed it from suse
[09:52] <koshari1> rd1381 use unetbootin and a usb drive
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> john-saint: if you get no where, head back and i'll see what i can do (if i'm here).I'm sure someone will be able to help
[09:52] <rd1381> no usb either
[09:52] <p-f> is there a reason why many applications, including gnome, ignore the right ctrl button in shortcuts? left ctrl + alt + left/right changes workspace, whereas rightctrl+alt + left/right doesn't work at all. How could I fix this?
[09:53] <indus> XelticSore: maybe its compiz hard to say
[09:53] <XelticSore> indus: yeah i guess.
[09:53] <XelticSore> indus: the only cpu related in proc is 'cpuinfo'
[09:53] <indus> XelticSore: systems keeps rebooting you said?
[09:53] <XelticSore> indus: and there is nothing about head.
[09:54] <DjAngo23> Since the upgrade to 9.10 there is no sound available on my computer:  Realtek ALC883 (Fujistsu Siemens Amilo Pi 2530)
[09:54] <XelticSore> indus: no it gets stucked, i have to restart. or shut down manually
[09:54] <indus> XelticSore: cat /proc/acpi/ther( keep pressing tab
[09:54] <indus> XelticSore: oh
[09:54] <XelticSore> indus: but hey it didnt shut down or stucked so far and im on it right now
[09:54] <indus> XelticSore: then try turning off compiz
[09:54] <XelticSore> indus: will do
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> DjAngo23: if you run: lspci | grep -i audio    you will see the chip model, you can then websearch for guides
[09:54] <indus> XelticSore: its some driver problem i guess
[09:54] <XelticSore> indus: im running an ATI so probably.
[09:55] <felix> System > Prefernces > Keyboard Shortcuts
[09:55] <XelticSore> indus: any idea how to turn off compiz, im on it but i dunno what else.
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> XelticSore: metacity --replace
[09:56] <indus> XelticSore: go to menu>preferences>appearance>visual effects
[09:56] <meowpup>  for interests sake could i take a opensorce mac kernel and replace the one in ubuntu
[09:56] <Amigadude> the upgrade begins... 958MB!! guess they didn't keep much the same? 9.04 -> 9.10... hope it doesn't break too much, I've almost got this how I want
[09:56] <XelticSore> oh that way ok
[09:56] <XelticSore> cuz i installed the ccsm
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> meowpup: sure why not
[09:56] <DjAngo23> ActionParsnip: That gives me this : 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[09:56] <DjAngo23> But i can't really find some guides for it
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> DjAngo23: ok now you have some ammo
[09:56] <XelticSore> okay its off.
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> DjAngo23: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/411574
[09:57] <meowpup> ActionParsnip: are you sure about that
[09:57] <meowpup> freebsd is not a linux kernel
[09:57] <aaron11> Hello I want to sign the code of conduct but there is a problem. I cant open the file UbuntuCodeOfConduct-1.0.1.txt.asc
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> meowpup: you can tell grub to boot any kernel you like, weather or not it wil work is a different matter
[09:57] <XelticSore> indus: okay now all i have to do is wait and see, thanks for your help mate.
[09:57] <XelticSore> indus: appreciated
[09:58] <meowpup> act wow
[09:58] <meowpup> wonder if anyone has tryed that
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> meowpup: you may need to add some weirdness to grub as well to make it work but i'm sure it could be persuaded
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> meowpup: now as for hardware support etc etc, i'm not so sure
[09:59] <agus> how to upgrade ubuntu 9.10 so that my apps still work
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> agus: sudo update-manager -d
[09:59] <delirium> I am on Jaunty 9.04 - but the upgrade to Karmic 9.10 option just wont appear - I have run "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" reporsts - 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.    Whats wrong?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> agus: if you have 9.10 and want an upgrade simply run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:59] <minike> 	Free signup ingyencset Limko everyone is welcome to the clipboard works   http://gollgabor.atw.hu/sex
[09:59] <aaron11> delirium: Try sudo apt-get upgrade -d
[10:00] <agus> do my apps need to upgrade too?
[10:00] <DjAngo23> ActionParsnip: That realy *****, no audio for me anymore, till an update... GRrrrr
[10:00] <aaron11> delirium: sorry sudo update-manager -d
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> DjAngo23: linux has no SLA unfortunately
[10:00] <minike> Free signup ingyencset Limko everyone is welcome to the clipboard works   http://gollgabor.atw.hu/sex
[10:00] <XelticSore> to be honest when i tried to update 9.10 was a fail to me, cuz i had to format, it bring up a Boot error "cant find bla bla bla fs unknown" ;)
[10:00] <delirium> aaron11: that reports the same results as above
[10:00] <DJones> !ops | minike (Spammer)
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> DjAngo23: intelseem to get hit hardest when a new release comes out, its the main reason i dont use their products
[10:01] <OiPenguin> I've tried to install (x)Ubuntu on an older machine. I've tried with to different hard drives and to different cd/dvd-drives. USB boot is not an option. Booting from CD takes forever and appears not to be working. What may be the cause of the problem? What may be a solution?
[10:01] <delirium> aaron11: still no Update button :-(
[10:01] <BlueEagle> oipenguin: How much RAM do you have in the machine in question?
[10:01] <DjAngo23> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the note ;)
[10:01] <OiPenguin> BlueEagle: 256 mb
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> delirium: http://quefyx.com/2009/05/26/upgrading-ubuntu-9-04-jaunty-to-9-10-karmic-on-eee-pc-seashell/
[10:02] <delirium> ActionParsnip: already tried that
[10:02] <BlueEagle> oipenguin: So the installation doesn't really get going then?
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> delirium: make sure your update manager doesnt say LTS and that it only says Normal
[10:02] <BlueEagle> oipenguin: How does booting from CD appear not to be working exactly? Do you get the install menu?
[10:02] <delirium> ActionParsnip: yes, it says " Normal releases"
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> delirium: good
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> delirium: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-upgrade-ubuntu-9-04-jaunty-to-9-10-karmic-desktopserver.html#more-2405   ubuntugekk is awesome :D
[10:03] <OiPenguin> I've managed to start the live install once, but I took hours. Plus, I was given some error messages related to the desktop/panels.
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> delirium: tried: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core; sudo do-release-upgrade
[10:03] <delirium> ActionParsnip: already tried that too
[10:04] <o_portista17> i need help, i delected all of the icons near the Clock, on the upper bar, how can i restore them all? i can't add them, and even if i go to the Applications, and select the Allways Show option, they still are just not there...
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> OiPenguin: did you md5 test the ISO you downloaded? Did you verify the CD once booted to?
[10:04] <BlueEagle> oipenguin: I'm sorry but "Some error messages" is really not helpful to us.
[10:04] <agus> upgrade ubuntu 9.10 still works properly using ext3?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> o_portista17: If you right click the bar then select add items, you can add items that way or have you tried that?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> agus: sure
[10:05] <agus> thank you
[10:06] <o_portista17> ActionParsnip, i did, but i had, the Battery, the Remote Desktop, and if i go to the applications, the options, Allways show the icon, they are selected...but they are not there
[10:06] <OiPenguin> I've not md5 tested the disk, but I've run the integrity test. I realise that "some error message" is insufficient, but since I've tried Ubuntu as well as xubuntu I assume at least one should be working properly and hence suspect it is hardware related. The impression is that after initial start, the disks runs down, hence become slow.
[10:07] <fgh> what file handles keyboard layout for gnome?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> OiPenguin: ok not too bad just running the integrity check. What does the message say? Have you websearched for the exact text it outputs?
[10:07] <Dibblah> Hi, all. I'm running Karmic. By manual configuration, all my drives (apart from /) spin down. Something is now forcing them to spin up every hour - I believe it's the smart checking.
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> !fixpanel | o_portista17
[10:07] <pangerankadal> is it fine to put 'ibus-daemon' in /etc/bash.bashrc?
[10:07] <minike> Free signup ingyencset Limko everyone is welcome to the clipboard works   http://gollgabor.atw.hu/sex
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> !panelfix
[10:08] <Dibblah> Anyone know of a way to disable it?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> o_portista17: gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> o_portista17: resets the panels to defaults
[10:08] <indra_simon> guys
[10:09] <indra_simon> did u know how to change the ubuntu 9.10 karmic koala startup sound ?
[10:09] <o_portista17> ActionParsnip, i've already add another bar, it will also change that one?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> o_portista17: not sure tbh
[10:09] <JacksonBrown> is Live CD persistence support as seen here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence no longer working in Karmic?
[10:09] <o_portista17> ill give it a try, thank's
[10:09] <OiPenguin> ActionParsnip: The integrity check confirms the cd is ok. I've not checked the error message because they've seemed less relevant, i.e. being related to the live desktop.
[10:09] <BlueEagle> indra_simon: Not if it isn't in the sound section of preferences.
[10:11] <BlueEagle> oipenguin: When something is not wrong and you are recieving error messages, how do you discern that those messages are not at all related to the problem at hand? They may not be directly linked to the problem but they may be symptoms that help identify the problem.
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> OiPenguin: installed system is the same as the live system
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> OiPenguin: regenerate the error then see what it means, you may need some boot options to make the system work for you
[10:11] <fgh> what file handles keyboard layout for gnome?
[10:12] <indra_simon> BlueEagle: then how can i change the startup sound other then pre-default from ubuntu karmic ?
[10:12] <BlueEagle> indra_simon: If it is not in the sound preferences then I do not, as you said, know how to change it. :)
[10:13] <OiPenguin> Ok. Thanks. I'll return later.
[10:13] <indra_simon> BlueEagle: thanks mate
[10:13] <indra_simon> Anyone here know how to change the startup sound in Ubuntu 9.10 ? any help would be great
[10:14] <fgh> what file handles keyboard layout for gnome?
[10:14] <nukasl> hey guys. i was upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 (i believe...) and my laptop (hp pavillion dv6000 which i believe was recalled due to an overheating problem) overheated and shut off during the update. i had downloaded all the packages and it was probably 3/4 of the way through installing them when this happened. when I went to turn it back on, it got to the ubuntu screen with the progress/thinking bar
[10:14] <indra_simon> indra_simon: Anyone here know how to change the startup sound in Ubuntu 9.10 ? any help would be great
[10:14] <nukasl>  and then shortly after gave me an fstab error (unable to mount such and such). I am now using a livecd version of U8.04. My first priority is to save all of my data (I can't recall whether I had a seperate partition for my "/home" directory. my second priority is to get 9.10 up and running ASAP. also, if anyone is familiar with my dv6000 troubles... I think it's time to rectify that as well...
[10:14] <nukasl> ...and if any suggestions in doing that would be much obliged.
[10:14] <FloodBot2> nukasl: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:15] <nukasl> uh-oh did you guys get my last message(s)? flood bot got mad at me...
[10:15] <indra_simon> nukasl: you can try other method, like using Acronis Disk partition
[10:15] <o_portista17> ActionParsnip, hum..is there a way to cancel the, gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel ?
[10:16] <indra_simon> nukasl: you can try hi-ren boot cd to recover your partition, or backup the data
[10:16] <indra_simon> nukasl: or use a ghost cd from norton
[10:16] <fgh> what file handles keyboard layout for gnome?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> o_portista17: dont think so
[10:17] <nukasl> indra_simon could you repeat in more generalized/lamans terms regarding each respective course of action?
[10:17] <o_portista17> well, now i can't even create a new bar ;/
[10:17] <o_portista17> all the options, are gone...
[10:17] <albasheers> when i play audio or video file , there is a delay of 10 seconds in playing its audio
[10:18] <john-saint> can someone give me some advice regarding firewall plz (firestarter)
[10:18] <eL_pSycHo> my CDs and DVD dont auto mount. using Karmic. i can mount them manually from the console though.... any ideas?
[10:19] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: Look if dbus and hal are correctly started.
[10:19] <DJones> !nickspam | SuckerBillGates
[10:19] <eL_pSycHo> seb2: how?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> o_portista17: the command simply resets te settings for panels to nothing, try a reboot
[10:20] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: service dbus staus, service hal status as root or sudo
[10:20] <john-saint> anyone about to give me help regarding my firewall
[10:20] <Yashy> Is there an easy way to run your standard apps (firefox, thunderbird, Virtualbox) in /dev/shm or a tmpfs?
[10:20] <zim> Hi all. I have a Samba problem. When I reboot all soft links in my samba shares get deleted. If I recreate them all works again but it is a pain. what is happening?
[10:20] <seb2> john-saint: Your question is too vague.
[10:20] <o_portista17> ActionParsnip, sorry to be a little annoying, but do you have any idea where the "config file" for the bar, is?
[10:21] <Avash> !nickspam | DJones
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> o_portista17: in ~/.g* some place, most likely ~/.gconf
[10:21] <john-saint> seb2: i keep getting a lot of serious events on firewall. 9 so far and they are http ones and tcp. sorry if i seem thick, im new to ubuntu
[10:22] <Avash> FloodBot1, hi there, how are you?
[10:22] <koshari1> zim use an fstab entry
[10:22] <seb2> john-saint: go on, paste the suspicious logs somewhere and give the url
[10:22] <media> can someone help me get the dlink dwa-140 working ? i now that 9.10 should support the rt2870 driver but i cant get it to regnozie my wifi stick
[10:23] <eL_pSycHo> seb2: both are running
[10:23] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: Then restart them.
[10:23] <nukasl> ill try this again with some more brevity: my computer crashed during the upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10. I'm now using the livecd version of 8.04 and want to install 9.10 without losing the data on my harddrive. recomended course of action?
[10:23] <john-saint> seb2: port 80 85.190.0.3 tcp http. other ports include 113 and port 22
[10:23] <koshari1> nukasl back up the data, fresh install
[10:23] <zim> koshari1: Many Thanks. is there a howto on this?
[10:24] <seb2> john-saint: so what ? You are being scanned. Welcome to internet.
[10:24] <felix> nukasl: buy an external hard drive, back up everything by mountying the drives from the livecd.
[10:24] <varunthacker> i used comp. janitor in 9.10 today and now my sound is gone.it was playing music just minutes ago.
[10:25] <skar> hi, i'm running jaunty with kde. if i run "dcopstart konsole-script" i get "DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket"
[10:25] <nukasl> koshari1 how do i tell if its in a seperate partition. theres a lot of data. id rather leave it there if its safe and install.
[10:25] <john-saint> seb2: is that bad or is this a normal thing on here. since 1999 ive been on that other rubbis os. ubuntu is a new learning curve for me
[10:25] <courpse> Can anyone recommend any animation creators?
[10:26] <vigo> courpse: Blender, but there are many many more.
[10:26] <coz_> courpse,   depends  on how you want to do this
[10:26] <Yashy> Is there an easy way to run your standard apps (firefox, thunderbird, Virtualbox) in /dev/shm or a tmpfs?
[10:26] <seb2> john-saint: Don't know, I still waiting for the logs of the alerts. Your explanations are too vague.
[10:26] <coz_> courpse,   there is  an application named  Pencil   also Blender  and likely a few others out th er
[10:27] <coz_> courpse,  Pencil is a linux replacement for adobel flash
[10:27] <Guest1260> when i download mp3 file to my mobile, the file is shorter in 18 minutes. Could u help me to solve it?
[10:27] <felix> nukasl you can install alongside 9.10
[10:27] <coz_> courpse,  of sorts  anyway
[10:27] <koshari1> nukasl always backup any data you dont want to loose
[10:27] <courpse> Aight, i'll try blender since it was first reply, thanks.
[10:27] <felix> the install wizard allows you to install ubuntu in a new partition
[10:27] <vigo> !backup
[10:27] <coz_> courpse,   Pencil is 2d flash animation
[10:27] <joaopinto> Yashy, those apps usually run in memory, there would be no benefit on using tmpfs
[10:27] <felix> so you need not destroy the old data
[10:27] <courpse> I been trying to use gimp but unfortunatly its animation options is not so good, :/
[10:27] <courpse> i wanna make .gif's.
[10:27] <john-saint> seb 2: sorry about that, just worried in case someone should get in! is firestarter a decent firewall?? or can you recommend something better? by the way, im useless at programming!
[10:27] <courpse> Will blender do this?
[10:27] <joaopinto> Yashy, the disk I/O from them is related to users data
[10:28] <coz_> courpse,    http://www.pencil-animation.org/index.php?id=Download
[10:28] <nukasl> koshari1: i agree. buying an external hdd tomorrow. having my system back up is important for productivity in the meantime though.
[10:28] <courpse> coz_, Does it do gifs as well?
[10:28] <joaopinto> courpse, no, blender is a 3D tool, not 2D
[10:28] <courpse> Bugger, so what gif animators are there?
[10:28] <nukasl> felix: you mean to say it can find a spot on the harddrive regardless of whether or not I made seperate partitions/mount points when i originally installed?
[10:28] <joaopinto> courpse, I am not sure gimp supports animated gifs
[10:28] <coz_> courpse,  welll it will do what flash animation does although it does support bitmap animations as well so you will have to play with it     read the manuls  because I havent gotten that far :)
[10:29] <eL_pSycHo1> seb2: restarting dbus restarted my session too.. and i had no keyboard and mouse support
[10:29] <seb2> john-saint: iptables is good. But I'm oldschool. I don't like firestarter for what I saw.
[10:29] <felix> nukasl: you can create a new partition, yes
[10:29] <vigo> I think GIMP does support 2d GIF
[10:29] <courpse> joaopinto, it does, but not very nicely, doesnt do seperate delays on frames.
[10:29] <felix> the Ubuntu install disk gives you that option in the wizard
[10:29] <felix> but you should buy that external dricves
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> joaopinto: courpse: you can make animated gifs with it, make each layer the next frame. I read it some place
[10:29] <seb2> eL_pSycHo1: Hum, not normal, then hal has some problem.
[10:29] <felix> drive*
[10:29] <courpse> in gimp?
[10:29] <coz_> courpse, did you install the animation package for gimp?
[10:30] <koshari1> zim try this read, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_talk:Feisty
[10:30] <seb2> eL_pSycHo1: hal depends on dbus for its service.
[10:30] <eL_pSycHo1> seb2: hal restarted fine
[10:30] <john-saint> seb2: thank you anyway. its good to know folks like you are here to help. il have a look about for another firewall (where ever that may be) lol
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> courpse: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Simple_Animations/
[10:30] <courpse> ActionParsnip, Yeah it can, but you cant give it seperate layer delays for each frame.
[10:30] <nukasl> felix: would it be impossible for me to download burn and install 9.10 seeing as how im now using the livecd in my laptop with one cd/dvd drive
[10:30] <zim> koshari1: ty
[10:30] <courpse> gimp.org doesnt load for me, :/
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> courpse: i see
[10:30] <eL_pSycHo1> seb2: i restated hal and then dbus if it makes any difference
[10:30] <koshari1> zim or more specifically http://joey.ubuntu-rocks.org/blog/2007/04/25/resolution-to-mounting-samba-shares-dont-use-smbfs/
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> courpse: yeah me neither, thought it wa sfirefox being sucky as per
[10:30] <coz_> courpse,  if you didnt the gimp animation package is   gimp-gap
[10:31] <seb2> john-saint: ufw ? firewal-builder ?
[10:31] <felix> nukasl: that would be difficult
[10:31] <courpse> coz_, yeah, i got gimp-gap, but still doesnt allow different delays for seperate layers, :/
[10:31] <courpse> ActionParsnip, Fraid not, gimp.org has been like this for a while, :/
[10:31] <coz_> courpse,  you may also want to install pandora   for  panorama creation
[10:31] <seb2> eL_pSycHo1: dbus then hal, the better is too restart them in a console.
[10:31] <john-saint> seb2: il try it
[10:31] <nukasl> felix no netinstall?
[10:31] <felix> install 8.04 in a new partition, boot from it, download 9.10 and burn it
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> courpse: could use smaller gaps throughout and just add more identical frames to prolong the image
[10:32] <courpse> coz_, whats pandora? another gif animator?
[10:32] <coz_> courpse,  also install fx-foundry  for gimp  ...not in the repo I believe   for a large list of new plugins
[10:32] <felix> well you'd need the optical drive
[10:32] <dp_> hello all.  i am installing 9.10 for first time.  would it run fine on one partition?
[10:32] <coz_> courpse,   I have used pandora for  stitching photos into panorama
[10:32] <eL_pSycHo1> seb2: should i do it in one single command?
[10:32] <nukasl> felix yeah sounds like waiting til 930 to buy that new hard drive would be faster. thanks for the help.. livecd til then. ill live. have a good one guys.
[10:32] <seb2> no, not on the console.
[10:32] <felix> dp_: yes. Do the default install
[10:33] <courpse> ActionParsnip, Yeah, but i didnt wanna get a large gif to do a small thing.
[10:33] <koshari1> zim and last but not least https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[10:33] <felix> That will create a single primary partition and a swap partition within and extended partition
[10:33] <vigo> dp_: Yes, but it will use or take two partitions, /home and /swap, depends on the install, but yes, it takes one part.
[10:33] <felix> and that works fine
[10:33] <dp_> i saw the some recommended 3 partitions. one for home, one for swap, one for OS.  but it should be fine with one?
[10:34] <MaT-dg> I'm having problems with youtube (flash 10?). Sometimes I can't use the controls (play/pause, go to specific time, volume)
[10:34] <erUSUL> dp_: you need at leat swap and root separate home is nice to have.
[10:34] <coz_> MaT-dg,  I am having flash issues as well
[10:34] <felix> seeya nukasl
[10:34] <coz_> MaT-dg,   just another flash bug I believe
[10:34] <felix> imma go sleep now
[10:34] <Muhammad> MaT , you have compiz effects enabled ?
[10:35] <MaT-dg> Muhammad: yes, I have
[10:35] <o_portista17> ActionParsnip, fixed ;D , i just copy past the old files, and killed the session, all good now, thanks
[10:35] <indus> dp_: should be fine with 2 , but in automatic partition its done auto of course , a / and a swap
[10:35] <Muhammad> MaT-dg, try disable them and try , it should work without any problem
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> o_portista17: awesome, glad you got the gold
[10:35] <vigo> I agree with erUSUL, a separate Swap/Home is just a good layout.
[10:35] <dp_> i read somewhere else that having 4GB or ram or more a swap would not help. is that correct?
[10:36] <Muhammad> MaT-dg, or use adobe's lab version , it works fine , but it will crash your firefox alot especially with gmail , if you're using it
[10:36] <eL_pSycHo> seb2: same thing.. had to hard reset
[10:37] <erUSUL> dp_: even if you do not end up using it; the swap partition is a nice backup and disk space is cheap these days
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> dp_: depends on use, "unused" ram will get used as disk cache. If you have 2Gb RAM or less, swap is advised as 2xRAM, if you have more tan 2Gb RAM then swap should be 1xRAM
[10:37] <erUSUL> dp_: also if you are going to suspend to disk you need swap >= RAM
[10:38] <Vinceman> shift-windows " e works differently in 9.10, why?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> Vinceman: what should it do? is it a compiz enabler?
[10:38] <vigo> dp_: I read that same article, I think, Swap on drive is great for Intense workloads, but is oft times seen as overkill and can be reduced, but I agree with the Default Install.
[10:38] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: Hard reset ?
[10:38] <h4f> .
[10:39] <Vinceman> it should make an ë
[10:39] <Vinceman> ActionParsnip
[10:39] <eL_pSycHo> seb2: uuh.... i had to restart the computer pressing the power button
[10:39] <MaT-dg> Muhammad: yes, works fine, however it's only a workarround
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Vinceman: in gedit etc or terminal?
[10:39] <dp_> ok. thanks for all the advice.
[10:39] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: why ? You had the control of the console ?
[10:40] <Vinceman> I only hadn't tried it in a browser
[10:40] <Vinceman> ActionParsnip
[10:40] <SandGorgon> how do i see the version and package information of an installed package - say libfuse2 ?
[10:40] <Muhammad> MaT-dg, yea , but you could use adobe's lab version , but as i said it crash your ff alot with gmail
[10:40] <MaT-dg> coz_: flash works just fine. Like Muhammad says, it has something to do with compiz
[10:40] <seb2> dp_: I saw little use of swap when having more thant 2go of ram. Mostly used as file cache and buffers.
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Vinceman: not heard of that one, just makes a '?' character?
[10:40] <siddhant3s> Am I the only one who faces problem in suspending my Ubuntu 9.04 while compiz is On
[10:41] <h4f> same think here 0 swap usage
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> dp_: if you set swappiness to a lower value, the system will try and keep the system running in the ram more rather than swapping
[10:41] <coz_> MaT-dg,   no it doesnt   I have run flash with and without compiz with the same results  and has been the same...at least on thnis system..since release
[10:41] <courpse> I have alot of problem with compiz.
[10:41] <Vinceman> ActionParsnip no it gives you multiple desktops on your screen
[10:41] <Muhammad> MaT-dg, http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html just remove your current version and copy this one to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[10:41] <courpse> I hardly see it worth running.
[10:41] <Vinceman> ActionParsnip: alt-137 doesn't work either
[10:41] <pigphish> QUESTION: Are there any tools (commercial or otherwise) that let me ocr within a pdf
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Vinceman: hmm
[10:42] <courpse> Tried alt 0137, the number you supply with alt usually has to be a 4 digit number.
[10:42] <seb2> dp_: Used to apply the 2x ram rule but I don't anymore. Then I had this ruel ram = swap. But nowadays, no more than 4go of swap.
[10:42] <SandGorgon> hey guys.. some help - how do i see the version and package information of an installed package - through apt-get
[10:42] <Vinceman> courpse doesn't work either :(
[10:42] <Vinceman> it's an important character in my language
[10:42] <pigphish> SandGorgon: why not use synaptic
[10:42] <SandGorgon> pigphish, oops sorry - i'm running server version on another machine
[10:42] <kjele> courpse: It is actually hex
[10:43] <eL_pSycHo> seb2: well.. after i restart dbus my computer restarts the session.. im back at the login window but my mouse doesnt work and neither does my keyboard
[10:43] <joaopinto> SandGorgon, apt-cache policy package
[10:43] <h4f> SandGorgon: you can try package --version which most of the time works. you can usea apt-cache show packagename to see description and latest version available
[10:43] <SandGorgon> thanks guys!
[10:43] <macfuddy> I have a touch screen attached to my computer that sends information through /dev/hidraw0. is there any way to find out what driver I can use with it?
[10:43] <pigphish> Question: any programs that can OCR a pdf within it?
[10:43] <joaopinto> h4f, there is no such thing as package --version, you mean --version with a binary, which is not the package version :)
[10:44] <h4f> joaopinto: yeap.. I meant packagename --version
[10:44] <vigo> macfuddy: GUI?
[10:44] <rapha> My laptop's headphone jack stopped working in Ubuntu 9.10 ... how to fix?
[10:44] <joaopinto> h4f, no, that will never report the package version, it may in some cases reveal the application version, which is not the same as package version
[10:44] <pigphish> rapha make sure its selected in switches
[10:44] <macfuddy> vigo: GUI?
[10:45] <vigo> macfuddy: Gnome or something, Windowed...
[10:45] <macfuddy> vigo: I got it in china. no documentation or drivers whatsoever
[10:45] <Valentina> Is there any lse having problem using user cron job in Ubuntu 9.10?
[10:45] <h4f> joaopinto: what's the diff between package and application ?
[10:45] <macfuddy> vigo: ubuntu NBR
[10:46] <S_A> Hi! I have enabled root login in 9.10. As soon as I login as root user, session crashes (desktop comes only for a moment) and I am back to login window
[10:46] <rapha> pigphish: that seems to be the problem - the new volume settings GUI doesn't have a switch for it anymore :-(
[10:46] <Valentina> I run a bash script through a cron job and the script doesn't write to a log file neither removes some files as it does running it from Terminal as the same user. Anyone?
[10:46] <S_A> any suggestions to track issue ?
[10:46] <erUSUL> h4f: an entire app may come packged in more than one package
[10:46] <vigo> macfuddy: There is a Hardware listing in the GUI version. It shows what Drivers are used where and stuff.
[10:46] <juro> hi, after running all the updates on 9.10 today, my browser does not react to anything anymore - any ideas why?
[10:46] <h4f> erUSUL: thanks
[10:46] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: I had this problem too.
[10:47] <macfuddy> vigo: ok, thanks
[10:47] <khaije|amalt> ppl still dancing from the release?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> S_A: you never need to log on as root, just log in as yourself and use sudo if you need admin power
[10:47] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: It's related to dbus and hal again. Mind to paste the /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere ?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> khaije|amalt: dancing?
[10:47] <S_A> ActionParsnip: I understand but why it is crashing ?
[10:47] <khaije|amalt> i was assured there would be dancing
[10:47] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: normaly, a dbus restart and hal restart did the trick for me.
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> S_A: no idea, ive not logged on as root, neiter should you
[10:48] <Valentina> Anyone else having problems writing and deleting files using a bash script from a user cron job in Ubuntu 9.10?
[10:48] <macfuddy> vigo: "hardware drivers" lists only my wifi driver. the touchscreen does not work yet, but is sending data through /dev/hidraw0
[10:48] <Valentina> My script worked just fine in Ubuntu 9.04 but now it have been starting to behave strange.
[10:48] <Valentina> since I moved to Ubuntu 9.10.
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> S_A: could try moving the contents of /root to a subfolder so new profile files are made
[10:49] <S_A> ActionParsnip: Can you tell me what process gives desktop (I mean various desktop icons etc.) ?
[10:49] <modumass> hey all, when i did the system update to 9.10 everything broke, couldnt even use my keyboard, so i dloaded a live cd on another machine and made the disk
[10:49] <modumass> installed and now cant log in
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> S_A: gdm
[10:49] <modumass> the login and Pword that I have always ised does not allow authentication
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> S_A: why are you logging on as root?
[10:49] <courpse> gimp fails at animation, :/
[10:50] <courpse> penis doesnt save gifs, blender looks farrrrr to complicated, :/
[10:50] <Vinceman> they named a program 'penis'??
[10:50] <S_A> ActionParsnip: I am just trying to find the cause of error
[10:50] <modumass> courps it is complicated, not more so than 3dsmax or xsi though
[10:50] <vigo> macfuddy: Have you tried the lspci?
[10:50] <impi_> hello guys and girls, i want to see if i can reach a UDP port through my wireless router, how can I do this?
[10:50] <courpse> 0.o
[10:50] <macfuddy> one wonders if 'penis blender' is on the way
[10:51] <impi_> like telnet or something?
[10:51] <seb2> Anyone got an idea for my problem (karmic fails with oops and oom when booting with USB2 cdrom plugged in) ?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> S_A: if you dont log on as root, you wont get an error
[10:51] <indus> Vinceman: they did?
[10:51] <S_A> ActionParsnip: Normal user login is working fine
[10:51] <courpse> Why the hell did i say penis...
[10:51] <eL_pSycHo> seb2: here is the Xorg.0.log ----- http://paste.ubuntu.com/308366/
[10:51] <courpse> I meant pencil.
[10:51] <danshtr|work> hi all. can i upgrade ubuntu remix using disk-on-key ?
[10:51] <modumass> login authentication failure, what is it matching my login against?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> S_A: then just use that, logging on as root is not advised. I strongly suggest you redisable the account too
[10:51] <pigphish> headphones worked for me
[10:51] <pigphish> by switching drop down box
[10:51] <nukasl> will downloading the 64bit version of 9.10 provide any noticeable increases in performance? or possibly just headaches?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> impi_: telnet to the port
[10:51] <macfuddy> vigo: no, but lsusb gives something useful, thanks!
[10:51] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled.
[10:52] <skar> hi, i'm using jaunty with kde. when i login, dcopserver isn't running and i'm not able to use dcopstart. any ideas?
[10:52] <jussi01> skar: try asking in #kubuntu
[10:52] <rapha> nobody know how to get new Ubuntu to show switch for turning on headphone jack volume? :-(
[10:52] <impi_> ActionParsnip, didnt try that lemme check
[10:52] <indus> rapha ther is
[10:52] <seb2> eL_pSycHo:
[10:52] <skar> jussi01: thanks will do :)
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> skar: delete the ~/.DCOP blah blah files and reboot
[10:52] <vigo> macfuddy: Great! pass it on when you find a solution.
[10:52] <shelly> hi can anyone suggest a good free shell account provider?
[10:52] <rapha> indus: not on my thinkpad
[10:52] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Logitech USB Receiver" (type: MOUSE)
[10:53] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: Is this your mouse + keyboard ?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> skar: if you can't log on, boot to recovery root console and do it there
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> skar: ls -a   will show you the files
[10:53] <indus> rapha i think headphone volume no, thats adjusted with master voulme or with slider on headphone
[10:53] <rapha> indus: 9.04 had a switch to turn on the headphone jack, after which it worked. 9.10 does not...
[10:53] <eL_pSycHo> seb2: yes thats my mouse... this is a laptop so i dont know the keyboard
[10:54] <skar> ActionParsnip: actually i'm able to login. but i'm not able to start konsole with my preconfigured set of tabs using dcopstart. will try deleting DCOP :) thanks :)
[10:54] <courpse> I dont even know how to draw a box in blender.
[10:54] <courpse> Yay, they have a channel.
[10:55] <user__> dajihao
[10:55] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: Well, both keyboard and mouse seems to be identified and configured.
[10:55] <pigphish> rapha: select headphones from output
[10:55] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: You have : input device "CNF7231" (type: KEYBOARD)
[10:56] <equinox_> hello ya'll i got a problem and not sure if anyone can help me with it...
[10:56] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: and input device "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" (type: TOUCHPAD)
[10:56] <indus> rapha ya its in volume control, in output
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> !ask | equinox_
[10:56] <pigphish> rapha: though headphones worked for me with either selected
[10:56] <rapha> pigphish: doesnt show headphones anywhere :( ... these new sound property settings seem to be incomplete ... the ones from 9.04 were complete
[10:56] <indus> rapha or input somewhere as devicde
[10:56] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: and input device "Logitech USB Receiver" (type: MOUSE)
[10:56] <pigphish> rapha: selecting headphones turned off speakers
[10:56] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: is that right ?
[10:56] <pigphish> rapha: i would say try it
[10:56] <eL_pSycHo> seb2: yeah... all that seems just about right.
[10:57] <rapha> pigfish: hmmm k ill just try everything there is :P
[10:57] <indus> rapha i agree, its incomplete, no cd in or aux selections , i have to manually set cd in for tv tuner
[10:57] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: And it found this too : input device "Macintosh mouse button emulation" (type: MOUSE)
[10:57] <khaije|amalt> has anyone seen an issue after upgrading to a new release, where boot will freeze halfway through and the screen will turn half white and half black?
[10:57] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: how many mouse do you have on this laptop ?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> khaije|amalt: do you eventually get a login screen?
[10:58] <khaije|amalt> thats the problem im having atm on my laptop
[10:58] <khaije|amalt> ActionParsnip: nope :(
[10:58] <nukasl> are there many advantages/disadvantages to using 64 bit over 32?
[10:58] <eL_pSycHo> seb2: just the touchpad and the wireless USB mouse
[10:58] <bjlen> i am new to ubuntu, just installed 9.10, everything working great except flash and the fact that I can't connect to public wifi (can connect to secure wifi at home no problem) I have a sony vaio tr2 if that helps at all. Would really appreciate some help!
[10:58] <meowpup> hi i am looking to install ubuntu to a flash device. i would prefer it to be a full install not live install
[10:58] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: But systems finds 3 devices (2 mouses and 1 touchpad).
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> nukasl: audio / video conversions benefit lots, more addressable ram
[10:59] <mesdag> anybody having troubles getting their multimonitor setup working with nvidia twinview after the upgrade to 9.10?
[10:59] <bazhang> bjlen, did you install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package? that includes flash plugin for firefox
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> khaije|amalt: can you boot to recovery root console then launch gdm?
[10:59] <eL_pSycHo> seb2: thats wrong....
[10:59] <noona> why cant I copy stuff to the usr folder in ubuntu?
[10:59] <khaije|amalt> ActionParsnip: no, the recovery option produces the exact same result
[10:59] <equinox_> i have always had problem with flash and firefox and ubuntu. for some reason when i play youtube videos and when i click on the bar to move forward the video, it doesn't respond. whenever i click on any flash animations, or that needs a mouse click, i click multiple times, no response, i have to refresh couple of times to have it work... i use virtualbox w/ xp, and don't have a problem in...
[11:00] <skar> ActionParsnip: well, i tried what you said, still i'm getting "Error: Could not find service 'konsole-script'." if i run "dcopstart konsole-start"
[11:00] <equinox_> ...there... this issue has been comming more on ubnutu, and especially on karmic koala... i wanna know if any of you encountered the problem and got tips for me.. and btw, this is not only for firefox, it happens in opera, and chromium tooo... ?? any clues?
[11:00] <huwenfeng> meowpup: yes you can do that
[11:00] <rapha> indus: pigphish: found the problem - the headphones are broken lol :-P
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> noona: you can't as a user, you must use sudo if you are using cp, or gksudo nautilus if you prefer gui
[11:00] <thomic> noona: are you root?
[11:00] <bjlen> bazhang, yes i did, and flash runs ok in a small window but not full screen.
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> skar: have you websearched that some?
[11:00] <hoo-hah> hi guys, i have issues with mc running in screen.. since latest mc update.
[11:00] <meowpup> huwenfeng: is there a tut on that
[11:00] <eL_pSycHo> seb2: i see the logitech USB reciever for the mouse failed to initialize
[11:00] <meowpup> i cant find
[11:00] <noona> i tried entering the password for sudo, it seems it's different from the password i use for my account
[11:00] <hoo-hah> when i start it, it appears to stall. I have to manually kill the proc. When I do, the shell it returns to has garbled text
[11:01] <noona> though i am the only user on linux
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> noona: they are the same
[11:01] <skar> ActionParsnip: yup, but not many suggestions or solutions. am still searching :)
[11:01] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: only for stting relative axes, the rest is normal.
[11:01] <noona> it says authentication failed
[11:01] <seb2> See this thread for help : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=982009&page=2
[11:01] <seb2> See this thread for help : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=982009&page=1
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> skar: let me see what i can dig up
[11:01] <skar> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[11:01] <noona> seb2 the link is for me?
[11:01] <huwenfeng> meowpup: yes, you need : unetbootin
[11:02] <huwenfeng> google it : unetbootin, you can do it using that tool
[11:02] <Trezker> no sound in totem, help?
[11:02] <eL_pSycHo> seb2: the machintosh mouse is just emulation it says
[11:02] <pigphish> rapha: LOL
[11:02] <Termana> sudo apt-get autoremove --purge does an automatic purge doesn't it?
[11:02] <rapha> thanks for the help anyway!
[11:02] <rapha> bye all!
[11:02] <pigphish> good bye
[11:03] <noona> i am so frustrated with ubuntu, i need to install something but i am unable to resolve some issue during the installation, could someone offer their undivided attention?
[11:03] <pigphish> QUESTION: OCR within a PDF, is it possible?
[11:03] <skar> ActionParsnip: if i just run "dcop" it gives the list of kde programs running just fine. only dcopstart for konsole-script fails
[11:03] <equinox_> so to resume, flash is unresponsive, and sometimes lags. not responsive to clicks in almost all the browsers???and issue only occur for karmic, dont think i had that problem in intrepid
[11:03] <notdeadyet> What does it mean when the Software Center says "Not available in the current data"?
[11:04] <equinox_> anyone??
[11:04] <eL_pSycHo> Using Karmic. my mouse pointer themes dont apply.. anyone has any ideas why and how to fix it?
[11:04] <pigphish> noona: i cant offer undivided but what is your issue
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> skar: have you put a script in ~/.kde/Autostart  to autorun at login?
[11:04] <Trezker> yep, totem wont play sound at all...
[11:04] <pigphish> equinox: try completely removing flash and then reinstalling
[11:04] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: Did you saw the thread ? There is all the symptoms you had. (unfortunately the guy at the end reinstalled its computer).
[11:05] <skar> ActionParsnip: nope. my dcopstart commands are in a script which i run manually.
[11:05] <equinox_> i will try that pigphish, although i already did...
[11:05] <skar> ActionParsnip: this is a plain vanilla install :)
[11:05] <notdeadyet> also, I can't seem to get the compiz settings manager in 9.10, why not??? :(
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> skar: hmm, seems there is this: /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/services/konsole-script.desktop   which is interesting
[11:05] <pigphish> equinox_: what version of firefox
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> !info konsole-script
[11:05] <meowpup> huwenfeng: i cant find any tutoral on how to do it. i know how to put the lice vd into flashdrive
[11:05] <eL_pSycHo> seb2: do you have a link? i did reinstall already though.. and did nothing right after.. NOTHING... just tested the CD/DVD drive and the thing doesnt auto mount disks
[11:05] <pigphish> equinox_: make sure you COMPELETELY remove and not just remove
[11:05] <noona> pigphish, i am to  install the c++ Intel compiler, there's an optional component that i need to install too, JRE, now i installed it but it's still unable to detect it, so i suppose it has to do with the folder i installed jre in, I don't know much about the OS's folders and accounts management, i dont kow much past the terminal.. could you please guide me through this?
[11:06] <noona> i am trying*
[11:06] <pigphish> equinox_: to get rid of config files
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> skar: do you have that file? what does it run?
[11:06] <notdeadyet> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[11:06] <notdeadyet> can't get ccsm in 9.10
[11:06] <meowpup> huwenfeng: lice vd = live cd
[11:06] <skar> ActionParsnip: hmm i don't have that file. which package provides that file?
[11:06] <pigphish> noona: i believe you are correct
[11:06] <pigphish> noona: check your paths
[11:06] <noona> so what am I supposed to do? the inter compiler is installed on the Home folder.
[11:06] <equinox_> 3,5 pigphish: using the standard version that comes with 9.10... do you know paths to config files?
[11:06] <noona> i installed JRE there too
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> skar: couldnt tell you dude, try just running: konsole-script   you may find, command-not-found will tell you
[11:07] <eL_pSycHo> this is bull... Karmic is still a beta.
[11:07] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: All of your problems are hal related.
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> notdeadyet: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[11:07] <huwenfeng> meowpup: yes you can do that, just google to find a tutorial,
[11:07] <pigphish> noona: i forget how to set path
[11:07] <h4f> where can I see ubottu comands list ?
[11:07] <thrope> small problem with printing in 9.10 - I laeve the computer on all the time but turn printer (usb) off over night... when i turn the printer back on it does not enable automatically - i have to go into printers and enable it - i didnt need to do this on 9.04 - it is a pain because the print server runs headless
[11:07] <pigphish> noona: type in terminal "set | grep Path
[11:07] <thomic> eL_pSycHo: not agree .. karmic isn't beta at all ... no problems on all my devices
[11:08] <pigphish> noona: set | grep PATH
[11:08] <huwenfeng> meowpup: or, you can boot from the ISO then use the live cd to install the system to the Flashdrive
[11:08] <noona> how would that help me?
[11:08] <eL_pSycHo> seb2: so i guess all i can do is wait for an update that fixes these problems?
[11:08] <notdeadyet> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:08] <bjlen> has anyone had problems connecting to public wifi with karmic? it won't connect to unsecured wireless network for me.
[11:08] <noona> i need to know the folder that i need to install jre on in order to make the intel compiler installation detect it
[11:08] <pigphish> you will get your current path
[11:08] <pigphish> noona: then set the path
[11:08] <sebsebseb> eL_pSycHo  and  thrope have a read of the release notes
[11:08] <eL_pSycHo> thomic: good for you... but other ppl use the system in other devices as well.
[11:08] <noona> you mean pwd?
[11:08] <pigphish> to include the jre/bin directory
[11:08] <sebsebseb> !notes |  eL_pSycHo  thrope
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> notdeadyet: compiz will not run without 3d accelleration so you will need to configure video drivers before running: compiz --replace
[11:09] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: No, all of those problems are already fixed.
[11:09] <ubo> ola
[11:10] <eL_pSycHo> seb2: really????? is this thread in the Ubuntu forums?
[11:10] <h4f> where can I see ubottu command list ?
[11:10] <sebsebseb> !bot |  h4f
[11:10] <Trezker> sound works in mplayer though
[11:10] <seb2> sebsebseb: Yes it is.
[11:10] <nine_> Hi! I have a problem with printing swedish letters (eg. å ä ö) in some fonts (Microsoft Calibri for a sample). In previous versions I worked around it by making a PDF and print it thru Evince. But it won't work anymore since i moved to Koala. It's just a empty space where the letter is supposed to be. any clue?
[11:10] <sebsebseb> seb2: hmm?
[11:10] <noona> pigPhish, ok what do i do after i see the path? though there are many
[11:10] <noona> what am i supposed to look for?
[11:10] <phix> hey, I am using the new ubuntu, what the hell happened to grub? it is no longer simple
[11:11] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=982009&page=1
[11:11] <sebsebseb> phix: It's Grub 2 now for clean installs
[11:11] <sebsebseb> !grub2 |  phix
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> phix: grub2 is quite complex and can offer extra power, i agree though it is very weird
[11:11] <phix> I installed Ubuntu 9.10 and now after a reboot it doesn't boot up, the only way I can get in there is to edit the recovery mode and take out the single option
[11:11] <sebsebseb> nine_: There's something about PDF's in  the release notes,  maybe not relivant for you though
[11:11] <sebsebseb> !notes |  nine_
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> phix: especially for single booters like myself
[11:11] <nicola_> ciao a tutti
[11:12] <bjlen> how can i check i have the right video driver installed on karmic?
[11:12] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: All of their advices are to be followed. Your devices are properly identified. I don't know why nothing happens with the X session.
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> phix: you can edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg  but it will be overwritten next time update-grub is ran
[11:12] <john-saint> does anyone know how to get a sn9c102 webcam working. looked all over the net with no joy!
[11:12] <K3rl0u4rn> hi people, trying to update / upgrade on karmik, i have problems with rsyslog (invoke-rc.d action "restart" failed)
[11:12] <K3rl0u4rn> can any one help ?
[11:12] <phix> so why doesn't my Ubuntu boot up properly any more? :) I installed from Ubuntu Alternate CD with encryption and LVM
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> phix: you will need to run: sudo chmod +w /boot/grub/grub.cfg too as its not marked as writable
[11:13] <noona> OK, could someone suggest a decent linux distribution where I can install the stuff without paths headaches?
[11:13] <sebsebseb> K3rl0u4rn: Right uhmm many people have had issues upgrading from 9.04 to Karmic
[11:13] <seb2> K3rl0u4rn: you upgraded it, did you ?
[11:13] <K3rl0u4rn> no
[11:13] <seb2> K3rl0u4rn: apt-get install rsyslog is that so ?
[11:13] <K3rl0u4rn> installed from xubuntu-alternate on a fresh virtual machine
[11:13] <sebsebseb> K3rl0u4rn: 9.10  is a release that should really be clean installed,  because of people getting issues after upgrade, but also, because of default Ext4 for clean and Grub 2
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> noona: you will get paths headaches if you start needing to add stuff, regardless of distro
[11:13] <K3rl0u4rn> then apt-get updated / apt-get upgraded
[11:13] <nine_> sebsebseb, thnx. I look into it. But I don't think it's relevant because of it's not only bound to pdfs or Evince. Same thing in OpenOffice. But before it was possible to get around it by printing it as a PDF...
[11:13] <phix> This is a fresh install, sda1 is WIndows, sda2 is /boot (100MB), sda3 is encrypted, within that is LVM that has my root, var and swap FSs on it
[11:13] <notdeadyet> where did Compiz's burn effect go on window animations?
[11:14] <meowpup> huwenfeng: when i install from live cd. will the flash drive be boodable directly at startup with bios set to boot from ub
[11:14] <seb2> K3rl0u4rn: fix is simple, start rsyslog (service rsyslog start).
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> notdeadyet: search for fire or burn in ccsm
[11:14] <garymaurizi> help! what is the most seamless easiest already integrated into the OS way to share files with another friend running ubuntu 9.10 karmic koala, (by easy/seamless i mean as if running a SMB share over the internet, he just has a folder mounted that is on my PC, and drags files into it too send too me)
[11:14] <seb2> K3rl0u4rn: then restart the upgrade.
[11:14] <noona> :( where can i find decent help?
[11:14] <K3rl0u4rn> thanks
[11:14] <notdeadyet> ActionParsnip: I'm in animations and theres no fire or burn effect
[11:14] <sebsebseb> nine_:  You have a Swedish keyboard?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> notdeadyet: you may need to install extra plugins from the repos. I suggest you ask in #compiz
[11:14] <notdeadyet> okay
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> notdeadyet: it may not be where you expect, the search takes the gueswork out
[11:14] <nine_> sebsebseb, yeah...
[11:14] <seb2> bbl lunch
[11:15] <Ad0> has anyone used dropbox in console? I want to have a crond job backing up some data on dropbox, but I dunno how to do this from console
[11:15] <Blizzerand> Is there any place where I can how to articles for ubuntu
[11:15]  * lupine_85 is trying to confiure grub2 to output to a serial line through the haze of /etc/defaults/grub - anyone done this?
[11:15] <sebsebseb> nine_: I don't  actsaully understand your issue
[11:15] <sebsebseb> nine_: Maybe #ubuntu-se can help by the way
[11:15] <DJones> garymaurizi: The simplest method may be to use dropbox, its a cross platform method of keeping files sync'd on multiple machines
[11:16] <Balsaq> when itook skome updats it offered me some special drivers? i made a mistake and lost the icon...how can i get it back?
[11:16] <garymaurizi> DJones im gonna look into it. thanks. brb
[11:16] <Balsaq> proprietary drivers?
[11:16] <wgrant> Balsaq: System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[11:16] <sebsebseb> wgrant: I was going to put that
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: gksudo jockey-gtk     do you mean that?
[11:17] <Balsaq> ok...thaicon..will it come back on the top of my screen?
[11:17] <yumbever> #gaffateip
[11:17] <nine_> sebsebseb: When i print with my laserprinter with some fonts (others work) the special swedish letters only leave a blank space. In previous versions of Ubuntu I could get around it and convert the document to PDF and print it thru evince...
[11:17] <DJones> garymaurizi: You can get free accounts for up to 2Gb of data stroage - Have a look at www.getdropbox.com
[11:17] <sebsebseb> Balsaq: you mean from the panel?
[11:17] <sebsebseb> !panels|  Balsaq
[11:17] <Balsaq> was on the top of my screen to the right
[11:18] <Termana> Does "sudo apt-get autoremove --purge" auto purge rather than just auto remove?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Balsaq: right click panel -> add item   then try a few things
[11:18] <Balsaq> do you know what i mean?
[11:18] <sebsebseb> Termana: maybe, but probably not
[11:18] <Balsaq> where is panel?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Termana: it will removed the unecessary packages that are now orpaned, as well as their configs outside of ~
[11:18] <dooglus> anyone know how to open .psp images in ubuntu?  (paint shop pro format)
[11:18] <garymaurizi> DJones: is there anything like dropbox, to keep files in sync over the internet between two computers, that is secure, but is a server I RUN -- so theres no space limits?
[11:18] <lupine_85> a-ha
[11:18] <wgrant> Balsaq: It won't bring back the icon, but it will open the window that clicking on the icon would have brought up.
[11:18] <ablmf> How to add an ipv6 address for ubuntu server -- I didn't install xwindows, so I need to do this by terminal
[11:18] <dooglus> garymaurizi: there are always space limits
[11:18] <modumass> hmm, i cant use live cd to preview ubuntu
[11:19] <Balsaq> did i need those drivers
[11:19] <Termana> ActionParsnip: So it WILL purge them? If not, is there a command to do an auto purge?
[11:19] <modumass> and now that i have installed it i cant log in
[11:19] <Tricks> I have a problem with my ubuntu machine it randomly goes to initial login screen
[11:19] <Tricks> any ideas?
[11:19] <garymaurizi> dooglus: sure, my hard drive isnt infinite? your statement adds no help
[11:19] <Tricks> it does this whilst I'm using it
[11:19] <Balsaq> was that part of the update process?
[11:19] <DJones> garymaurizi: I don't know about that, I only ever needed the capabilities of dropbox, nothing over that
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Termana: no, you must specify purge each time unless you create an alias in ~/.bashrc
[11:19] <dooglus> garymaurizi: it corrects a misunderstand I think?
[11:19] <huwenfeng> meowpup: what? no . you can boot from the Live CD and the install you system to the flashdrive
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: i think you can run irfanview in wine and view them
[11:19] <alassiry> garymaurizi: I like to use rsync , and svn for different types of files...
[11:19] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:20] <meowpup> hi again anyone able to help me with a usb hdd install question
[11:20] <huwenfeng> its easy to boot from the Live CD , ISO or real CD rom
[11:20] <DJones> garymaurizi: I'm sure you can mount a folder on a remote machine via the internet, but I can't remember where I saw the method for doing it
[11:20] <modumass> ActionParsnip, i cant log in, i cant preview and if i try to just log in normally, i cant the screen goes white text and then flashes and then stops responding
[11:20] <Tricks> anybody had the error before?
[11:20] <garymaurizi> DJones, i want too have a folder on my linux machine, and one on his, and have him be able too sync the files in the folder on his side with the files i provide him on mine, like an svn checkout or mercurial
[11:20] <garymaurizi> and vice versa
[11:20] <modumass> ActionParsnip, also hey, hows it goin
[11:21] <digifor> Just upgraded to Karmic on an imac. all I am getting is a flashing text login with a British Pound sign. What to do next?
[11:21] <cemc> is it just me or is firefox using more cpu in Karmic?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> modumass: not bad, not sure on the issue though dude, have you tried booting to root recvery mode and running: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[11:21] <garymaurizi> alassiry im gonna check out those methods
[11:21] <dooglus> garymaurizi: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+question/88109
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> cemc: its a CPU hog generally
[11:21] <meowpup> i am wanting to install ubuntu onto a usb hdd as a full install and directly boot from it at bootup
[11:21] <shankhs> cemc: me wid u
[11:22] <modumass> ActionParsnip, its as if ubuntu doesnt believe i have priveledges to do anything
[11:22] <modumass> ActionParsnip, can i do that from a old old install
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> meowpup: boot to the CD there is an option to install to USB there
[11:22] <modumass> dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[11:22] <modumass> cool
[11:22] <modumass> thanks
[11:22] <cemc> I mean the scroll is a lot slower, I click on links it takes like 2-3 seconds to 'click', I move over links it takes literally a second to change the mouse pointer and stuff like that
[11:23] <garymaurizi> dooglus: if i had the knowledge too work on the ubuntu ONE protocol, i wouldent be in here asking such a simple question!!! ;op
[11:23] <wgrant> cemc: You've got no suspicious plugins like Flash running in other tabs?
[11:23] <cemc> I run top, I do nothing in firefox and for some reason every 3-5 seconds there is a 'spike' for like 2 secs
[11:23] <Valentina> I have some bash scipts that work just fine running them from Terminal by ./script BUT when I run them from a cron job then the scripts can't write to a file (echo "bla bla" > /home/username/logfile.txt) and not remove some files either. Why?
[11:23] <shankhs> cemc: I share exactly the same problem but I thought that maybe my system is too old that's why!
[11:23] <eL_pSycHo> seb2: i see he just had to restart at the end.. but i dont have that same problem.. my mouse and keyboard work fine.. they dont work if i restart dbus... so i just wont do that.... on another topic... my mouse pointer themes are not leading... not even the already installed ones like redglass... just the default one works..
[11:23] <dooglus> garymaurizi: that was intended to make you feel less alone
[11:24] <DJones> garymaurizi: I've found this on how to mount a remote folder, I'm not sure whether it will help though https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Advanced#Mounting a remote directory It doesn't look like what you're looking for, but maybe it'll give some idea's on what to look for
[11:24] <Valentina> It seems like the user cron job doesnät work as it should. Is this a known problem in Ubuntu 9.10? It was working just fine using Ubuntu 9.04.
[11:25] <dooglus> the problem with mounting remote folders using sshfs or whatever is that the sync happens in real time
[11:25] <Halabund> Since upgrading to Karmic from Jaunty, resolving domain names is extremely slow (up to half a minute).  If I comment out the search and domain lines from resolv.conf (as suggested in the last few comments on bug 417757), things start working correctly.  Is there anything I can do to make this change permanent?
[11:25] <Halabund> (It complicates things that I have to connect to a VPN to access the internet.)
[11:25] <dooglus> and so writing to them takes a long time
[11:25] <dooglus> with dropbox (and presumably ubuntu one, though I can't get that to work) the sync happens slowly over time
[11:25] <wk_bouter> hello, can anyone tell me when redirecting output to a file, when is that file created... only after the command is finished?
[11:25] <dooglus> but the write is quite
[11:25] <subspider> hi
[11:25] <dooglus> wk_bouter: before the command is started
[11:25] <pigphish1> wk_bouter: the file is creatted as the command processes
[11:26] <cemc> wgrant: when I don't have any tabs with flash, it moves better, that's true. but it still hogs the cpu sometimes, it just goes up to 10-20-100% at times (looking at it in top)
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> wk_bouter: you can use redirection using > to output the stdio text to a file
[11:26] <dooglus> wk_bouter: the file is created and opened before the command starts, since the command is passed a handle to the open file
[11:26] <pigphish1> QUESTION: OCR in PDF is it possible in linux?
[11:26] <cemc> shankhs: mine is some core 2 duo stuff, it's not THAT old :)
[11:26] <Halabund> Since upgrading to Karmic from Jaunty, resolving domain names is extremely slow (up to half a minute).  If I comment out the search and domain lines from resolv.conf (as suggested in the last few comments on bug 417757), things start working correctly.  Is there anything I can do to make this change permanent? (It complicates things that I have to connect to a VPN to access the internet.)
[11:26] <pigphish1> KARMIC has greatly improved my ui interface :-d
[11:27] <subspider> i'm using xbuntu i'm having problems with interface
[11:27] <pigphish1> QUESTION: OCR in PDF is it possible in linux?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> pigphish1: you could convert the pdf to text, or use pdfedit to edit the file
[11:27] <wk_bouter> dooglus, so if I run a very long (in time) command with lots of output, during the run I should be able to check inspect  file for the output right?
[11:27] <pigphish1> i've used both
[11:27] <Spixx> subspider: use this ultrasuperfix www.google.com!
[11:27] <dooglus> wk_bouter: indeed, you can
[11:27] <barf> pigphish: ocropus
[11:27] <Spixx> or tell us what the trouble is! :D
[11:27] <pigphish1> ActionParsnip: used both but none allows me to embed ocr
[11:27] <subspider> thnks
[11:28] <dooglus> wk_bouter: in a separate window, you can "tail -f thefile.txt" to watch the output as it arrives in the file
[11:28] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: So, does your dvd/cd appears on the desktop now ?
[11:28] <pigphish1> barf: ocropus? embeds
[11:28] <barf> ocropus is and OCR library
[11:28] <pigphish1> ahhh
[11:28] <alecmuffett> Is it possible to set up an "apt" repository for Ubuntu using a webserver and only static files/directories?  All the HOWTOs that I have encountered are talking about reconfiguring Apache and installing CGI stuff, which I could do on my home system but not on my hosting provider.
[11:28] <barf> ocropus is an OCR library
[11:28] <subspider> i restart the pc and no i don't have a menu bar and no sound
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> pigphish1: can you expand on embed ocr? do yu mean add some scanned text to an existing pdf?
[11:28] <eL_pSycHo> seb2:  nah..... i think it must be a bug and not a config error.... i mean i did a fresh install and the first thing i did was test it and no joy.
[11:28] <shankhs> cemc: then its a real prob
[11:28] <dooglus> wk_bouter: it does depend on the command you're running - perhaps the command outputs all its output in pne lump at the end, or outputs it line by line, but doesn't flush it
[11:29] <shankhs> cemc: does your firefox also behaves like this?
[11:29] <khaije|amalt> how has the reception of the UNR release been? im considering installing that instead of 'desktop'
[11:29] <pigphish1> ActionParsnip: with adobe acrobat i can embed the ocr into the pdf image instead of having it as a seperate file
[11:29] <wk_bouter> dooglus, ok if we can see in top that a process is running, but we dont see any file being created then the first one would be the case?
[11:29] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: In this case, maybe the cdrom is not identified as it should be ?
[11:29] <pigphish1> ActionParsnip: tesseract and the like ccreate a seperate text file
[11:29] <digifor> how can I disable the splashscreen during boot?
[11:29] <dooglus> wk_bouter: if it's showing up in 'top' as usinga lot of CPU then it's possible the process is doing a bunch of calculations before doing its output
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> pigphish1: so you scan some text using OCR then add it to an existing PDF text to make it bigger, "embed ocr" doesnt make sense
[11:30] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: see the output of : sudo hal-devices|less
[11:30] <wikiDude> Why do I get to maintainence shell when I boot into karmic and it asks me to run fsck , which is very annoying
[11:30] <atanok> I'm still using Karmic's Beta... what should I do to upgrade to the final release?
[11:30] <eL_pSycHo> seb2: it mounts if i do it from the console. and also if i put the CD inside it wont mount right... but if i run gksu nautilus then it mounts immediately
[11:30] <greenfuji> what command would you type in terminal to identify the version number of ubuntu server?
[11:30] <atanok> just a pointer will do
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> pigphish1: you can embed the text which is the result of a scan using ocr
[11:30] <indus> atanok: sudo apt-get update
[11:30] <bazhang> atanok, keep updating
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> greenfuji: lsb_release -a
[11:30] <dooglus> greenfuji: lsb_release -a
[11:30] <atanok> just thtat?
[11:30] <indus> atanok: why havent you updated ?
[11:30] <atanok> :/
[11:30] <wk_bouter> well no, there is a lot of intermediate output being printed line by line...if we dont redirect  the output we can see that.
[11:30] <indus> atanok: ja
[11:30] <pigphish1> ActionParsnip: adobe acrobat has a built in ocr feature which will ocr an image and embed the ocr in the document and keep it alighned with the image
[11:31] <atanok> will do
[11:31] <atanok> thanks
[11:31] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: you should have something like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/308408/
[11:31] <greenfuji> thanks guys
[11:31] <garymaurizi> thanks DJones, though late, im reading it :)
[11:31] <pigphish1> barf: is ocropus better than tesseract
[11:31] <dooglus> wk_bouter: that'll be a case of the program not flushing its output buffers then
[11:31] <bazhang> atanok, after that sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> pigphish1: i'd have thought pdfedit would have been great here
[11:31] <pigphish1> ActionParsnip: meaning, if i find text that i ocred it will tell me where exactly in the image it is
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> pigphish1: scan the new image / text then add it in
[11:31] <atanok> updating
[11:31] <pigphish1> ActionParsnip: pdfedit has no ocr , or does it?
[11:32] <atanok> will upgrade as soon as it finishes
[11:32] <RhysM> how can i tunnel x over ssh from windows ?
[11:32] <pigphish1> ActionParsnip: very manual process
[11:32] <wikiDude_> How do I solve my prob . Any ideas
[11:32] <pigphish1> ActionParsnip: unless im missing something
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> pigphish1: you can scan from something like gimp and then use the result to add to pdfedit
[11:32] <greenfuji> I am running ubuntu server 8.10. When I do a sudo do-release-upgrade, it says no new release found. shouldnt it find 9.10 and upgrade?
[11:32] <barf> ocropus is probably the most open and programmer friendly OCR
[11:32] <eL_pSycHo> seb2: the command doesnt do anything....
[11:32] <atanok> upgrading
[11:32] <RhysM> greenfuji: dist-upgrade?
[11:32] <pigphish1> ActionParsnip: but the problem is I would like to ocr a document and have the result embedded into the document
[11:33] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: hal-devices show nothing ?
[11:33] <atanok> "sudo apt-get upgrade"... nothing happened
[11:33] <barf> pigphish1: I do not know tesseract
[11:33] <barf> But it sounds propriteray
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> pigphish1: you can you just need to use more than one application
[11:33] <pigphish1> ActionParsnip: perhaps not as nicely as adobe but at least within the same page
[11:33] <O__o> guys why my ubuntu has openjdk java as default?
[11:33] <greenfuji> RhysM: is that a command?
[11:33] <bazhang> atanok, then you are running final
[11:33] <K3rl0u4rn> sebsebseb: still, rsyslog update keeps failing
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> O__o: licensing probably
[11:33] <wk_bouter> dooglus thanks for your help, I'll work on it...
[11:33] <eL_pSycHo> seb2: it says... sudo: hal-devices: command not found
[11:33] <O__o> does ubuntu come with openjdk java or sun java?
[11:33] <seb2> K3rl0u4rn: paste the output of the session.
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> O__o: yu can install either
[11:34] <pigphish1> ActionParsnip: will pdfedit automatically allow me to embed text... incidently the text would not be visible over the image that is why adobe embeds it
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> !java | O__o
[11:34] <O__o> ActionParsnip, about last night the facebook thing.  i switch it to sun java now i have no problem now
[11:34] <atanok> bazhang, I take it there should be no differences between this and a final CD install, then?
[11:34] <barf> pigphish1: Which scripting language are you using for you task?
[11:34] <O__o> ActionParsnip, and website run a lot smoother with sun java
[11:34] <seb2> eL_pSycHo: sorry, its hal-device (without the s)
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> pigphish1: all i can recommend is scan with an app then past the stuff into pdfedit
[11:34] <pigphish1> barf: i'm using bash more than anyting else
[11:34] <modumass> ActionParsnip, you know the way normally your screen during boot only shows test until you select which OS you want to boot with, then it switches to a splashscreen, now it just flashes white text on the screen
[11:35] <atanok> it's just that I'm having an annoying problem with a printer, that doesn't exist in 8.10
[11:35] <O__o> ActionParsnip,  i am wondering why ubuntu come with openjdk java as default??  sun java is 10000000 times better
[11:35] <pigphish1> barf: what do you use, do you use ocropus
[11:35] <shomon> hi, I have a ipevo pov webcam. Where can I get resources on using this on ubuntu?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> modumass: i uninstall silly splash screens so mine is always all text
[11:35] <atanok> probably due to ghostscript
[11:35] <pigphish1> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:35] <RhysM> greenfuji: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> O__o: some people prefer the open version
[11:35] <pigphish1> x.flux just woke up my screen LOL
[11:35] <O__o> ActionParsnip, but the open version just sucks
[11:35] <pigphish1> <[11:35] <digifor> This is the first time I have had a problem upgrading since Warty.
[11:35] <modumass> ActionParsnip, yeh that is cool, but usually its a way to tell if stuff is broken
[11:36] <pigphish1> barf: what script dev environment do you use?
[11:36] <Merlin_> Anyone know how to permanently enable sudo dhclient eth0?
[11:36] <greenfuji> RhysM: thanks, doing something now
[11:36] <modumass> ActionParsnip, mine is just flashing and gets to the bit where it says batter ok..... and thats as far as it gets
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> modumass: i just think they are redundant
[11:36] <barf> python
[11:36] <digifor> I disable the splash and what happens is I get a wierd flickering on and off when it tries to start X.
[11:36] <barf> yes, I use ocropus
[11:36] <modumass> ActionParsnip, i cant get to a prompt to type anything
[11:37] <barf> It has to be tweaked for every purpose
[11:37] <digifor> I can get into X using old kernel  but not the new Karmic one
[11:37] <corigo> Any recommended EXT drivers for Windows?
[11:37] <barf> But can get really high successrates
[11:37] <pigphish1> barf: i just checked ocropus used to be a wrapper for tesseract
[11:37] <Deolog> BIG mistake I did! I accidentally deleted /boot (GRUB and kernels) from my 9.10. I tried reinstalling it but no succcess. I have a 9.04 live cd. Any idea hoe coul I restore my grub and kernel back?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> modumass: you could edit the boot options using E in grub to remove the splash stuff so you can see whats going on
[11:37] <modumass> ActionParsnip, so i thought id livecd in and look around, see if there is a way to look around, but i cant even get past the login screen there
[11:37] <pigphish1> barf: capable of layout control which is what i needed as well
[11:37] <Merlin_> Anyone know how to permanently enable sudo dhclient eth0?
[11:37] <pigphish1> barf: seems to be using a new engine though
[11:37] <pigphish1> now
[11:38] <modumass> ActionParsnip, internal brain burning smells like hot dogs
[11:38] <adi1> hi all. does anyone have problems with mounting ntfs partition in with karmic ?
[11:38] <pigphish1> barf: any sample python scripts you can share?
[11:38] <barf> Still lingo scripting for the customization?
[11:38] <xarvh> Hi! Is there any way in Linux to strip all pictures from a PDF document, leaving only the text?
[11:38] <barf> Well the python scripts does not do any good for you it just executes ocropus
[11:38] <adi1> to me it asks for autorization required
[11:38] <vigo> Deolog: Yes, is gonna take a bit of work, but that is what and why Backups are my suggestion to almost anything.
[11:38] <adi1> i cant mount my ntfs partition
[11:38] <barf> What you would probably like is the tweaking scripts? Those are made in a different scripting language
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> adi1: users cannot mount partitions
[11:39] <pigphish1> barf: how do you mean? it just is used to run the program and do nothing?
[11:39] <modumass> xaryh, you can select and copy all the txt out and then export a doc to pdf
[11:39] <theadmin> adi1: Mount via "ntfs-3g" not via "mount"
[11:39] <barf> Lua, not lingo
[11:39] <Deolog> vigo, yes sir! I do have weekly backups but i excluded /boot. LOL
[11:39] <adi1> im the only one and im the root| ACTION
[11:39] <vigo> Deolog: Sweet.
[11:39] <Blizzerand> xarvh : Export it to a open office file
[11:39] <Deolog> vigo, could you please guide me?
[11:39] <atanok> adi1, if that fails, it might be flagged as "in use" due to an unclean mount, or hibernation
[11:39] <pigphish1> barf: i would be interesting in anything that could generate ocred text
[11:39] <barf> pigphish1: The optimization of ocropus is written in Lua
[11:40] <adi1> atanok | so how do i mount now?
[11:40] <pigphish1> barf: i would be intererested in just getting it to ocr images
[11:40] <mesdag> anybody having troubles getting their multimonitor setup working with nvidia twinview after the upgrade to 9.10?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs3g | adi1
[11:40] <pigphish1> barf: and preserve the layout
[11:40] <adi1> ok thnks
[11:40] <xarvh> Blizzerand: export it how? oO
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> mesdag: try removing then reinstalling the driver
[11:40] <barf> Hmm
[11:40] <barf> My scripts only OCRs an area of the sheet
[11:40] <vigo> Deolog: Uhm, Repair GRUB, fix grub , let me look at the new Grub setup and if the same commands work.
[11:40] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Is there ANYTHING ubottu doesn't know?
[11:40] <atanok> if that is the case, you should only mount as read-only, and make Windows clean it when you can
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: quite a lot
[11:41] <barf> 4cm  in from the left 2 cm down, 20cm wide and 5 cm down from the before mentioned starting point.
[11:41] <mesdag> actionparsnip: did that removed the old ones and installed the new one (190.42) manually
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> mesdag: ok thats a good step to take
[11:41] <Deolog> vigo. Ok. I am in the 9.04 livecd now.
[11:41] <atanok> by cleaning, I mean just starting Windows and then rebooting again
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> mesdag: i dont use dualhead, but driver reinstalls can fix stuff nice
[11:42] <pigphish1> barf: could you point me to a good reference with python
[11:42] <mesdag> ran nvidia-xconfig and adjusted that with nvidia-settings
[11:42] <atanok> or mounting it on a running Windows and then unmounting
[11:42] <pigphish1> barf: how have you found the accuracy?
[11:42] <atanok> in case it's an external drive
[11:42] <barf> 100% from one scanner
[11:42] <digifor> Is there a collected searchable list of all the stuff that is going wrong in Karmic?
[11:42] <pigphish1> really
[11:42] <barf> or from three scanners
[11:42] <barf> actually
[11:42] <pigphish1> type written i assume
[11:42] <theadmin> Can anyone tell me what is this new "iBus" thing? Sounds like something made by apple
[11:42] <atanok> lol
[11:42] <mesdag> ActionParsnip, usually they do but the upgrade from 9.04 was far from smooth :]
[11:42] <Merlin_> Anyone know how to permanently enable sudo dhclient eth0?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> digifor: head to http://www.launchpad.net   and read the ubuntu bugs
[11:43] <barf> and 1 of the scanners only has 80% successrate
[11:43] <barf> All scanning the same template documents
[11:43] <pigphish1> apple is for the dogs an people who like to spend too much money for the same shit as eeverryone else
[11:43] <eL_pSycHo> seb2: it looks fine.
[11:43] <Deolog> vigo, I also have a small partition I would like to use as /boot. what do I do next?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> mesdag: tried the 185 driver instead?
[11:43] <atanok> "iBus"? sounds like someone reimplemented desktop IPC... _again_
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> !info ibus
[11:43] <barf> pigphish1: Apple is for people who do not like to spend time nursing their windows environment
[11:43] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[11:44] <pigphish1> barf: :-D
[11:44]  * barf uses Apple for workstations, and Linux for servers
[11:44] <mesdag> ActionParsnip, was running that version before the upgrade and it worked ok, somehow during the upgrade something broken
[11:44] <digifor> thanks ActionParsnip
[11:44] <atanok> oh great, it's a dbus utility, not reimplementation
[11:44] <vigo> Deolog: This page has it pretty good: http://www.pubbs.net/ubuntu/200910/39798/ , still looking
[11:44]  * barf would say stable as a rock.
[11:44] <adi1> theadmin | ntfs 3g gui ask me for a mount point
[11:44] <pigphish1> barf: could you point me to a good ocropus python reference
[11:44] <adi1> where to mount
[11:44] <pigphish1> barf: sounds like worth a try
[11:44] <pigphish1> barf: does it support tiff?
[11:45] <Blizzerand> xarvh : I think there are somw tools that can help you
[11:45] <theadmin> adi1: create a folder like /mnt/ntfs and use this
[11:45] <barf> I think through gs it supports anything
[11:45] <adi1> normally its mounted on /media
[11:45] <vigo> Deolog: From the Forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708
[11:45] <xarvh> Blizzerand: could you suggest me some? I'd try Ghostscript, but I have no idea even where to start from
[11:45] <Deolog> vigo, thank you!
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> mesdag: try: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; rm ~/.nvidia-settings-rc; sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_031109                       then reboot
[11:46] <vigo> Deolog: That one from the Forums looks like the right plan.
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> mesdag: once rebooted run: gksudo jockey-gtk
[11:46] <pigphish1> barf: gs?
[11:46] <barf> pigphish1: I do not know a good OCRopus python reference, mine is travelling at the moment.
[11:46] <barf> gs = ghostscript
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> mesdag: --purge gets rid of all the latent configs too
[11:46] <pigphish1> barf: meaning a coworkeer?
[11:46] <barf> But my experience tells me that ocropus LUA will be your main task
[11:46] <barf> Meaning coworker
[11:46] <mesdag> ActionParsnip, any kde version of jockey-gtk?
[11:46] <digifor> Why is a British Pound Sign flashing along with a text login with Karmic instead of the usual gui?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> mesdag: kdesudo jockey-kde
[11:47] <equinox_> thanks pigphish
[11:47] <mesdag> ActionParsnip: doh, that simple :)
[11:47] <equinox_> got that longtime flash problem cleared
[11:48] <mesdag> ActionParsnip, k running the command now
[11:48] <theadmin> When i try to mute my sound, i hear some REALLY weird noises instead of sound. Something like sssssssssssssssssssssssssh. It's scary, so WTF?
[11:48] <moDumasser> ActionParsnip, woop, awesome
[11:48] <pigphish1> barf: thanks for the help
[11:48] <pigphish1> barf: i will check it out
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> moDumasser: ?
[11:48] <moDumasser> ActionParsnip, im onm with my main machine using 9.10 generic -
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> moDumasser: nice
[11:49] <mesdag> brb
[11:49] <moDumasser> ActionParsnip, its the only login type i can use, where to look to fix the others?
[11:49] <equinox_> oki next question: anyone knows of a dock, just as simple to use and setup as gnome-do, without all the crazy custom options of cairo-dock?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> moDumasser: do you mean users?
[11:49] <moDumasser> ActionParsnip, took forever thoush
[11:49] <indus> theadmin: yeah some ghost
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> equinox_: kibadock, avant-window-navigator
[11:50] <coz_> cairo dock
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> !dock
[11:50] <coz_> :)
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> !find dock
[11:50] <vigo> equinox: There is a simdoc in the repoes, no Compiz or any extras required.
[11:50] <chu> Hey guys, just a small problem... When I try to run the nvidia settings nothing happens, so I run it from terminal to see if there's an error, I get a "Inconsistency detected by ld.so:..." error, so something has gone wrong. Bit nervous if I should reboot or not..
[11:50] <hanno> hi. where is a good place to discuss empathy issues in ubuntu?
[11:50] <equinox_> thanks guys i'm going to try all of them lol
[11:50] <coz_> chu,  did you reboot after installing the nvidia driver?
[11:50] <bazhang> hanno, here
[11:50] <indus> hanno: this
[11:50] <theadmin> hanno: this is the place
[11:50] <hanno> ah, fine. thx.
[11:50] <K3rl0u4rn> sebsebseb: here it is : http://pastebin.com/m465135ca
[11:51] <h4f1> hey I am in a trouble. I installed grub 2 and I have now the folowing error 15 .
[11:51] <theadmin> I'd really use pidgin though, cause empathy is a mess :/
[11:51] <indus> empathy sucks randomly
[11:51] <chu> I would think so, I've been rebooting a lot today.
[11:51] <chu> Maybe not...
[11:51] <trekkie3k> are there any known problems mit XKB in 9.10? I have XKB settings which are disregarded by any app except gnome-terminal and xterm ...
[11:51] <subspider> hi i don't have menu bar in xubuntu
[11:51] <jpds> hanno: Bug reports.
[11:51] <coz_> chu,  mmm  not sure then  you could try uninstalling the driver and then rebooting then reinstalling  via  system/administration/hardware drivers
[11:51] <subspider> how i turn it on
[11:51] <theadmin> subspider: Ask in #xubuntu not here
[11:52] <subspider> ok
[11:52] <h4f1> any one Error 15 after installing grub2 ?
[11:52] <hanno> empathy on ubuntu is weird. i used pidgin before and it would put windows in front & focus on new messages. with empathy, it is always a problem to find the new message of a conversation if you have a few tabs open.
[11:52] <hanno> is there a way to make empathy show the new message more obvious?
[11:52] <chu> I'll just reboot X, if it doesn't come back, I'll go get high and go to sleep, otherwise I'll stay here :p
[11:52] <Valentina> What is the differnce between unmount and safely remove device in Nautilus context menu?
[11:52] <Guest41623> Hello, anyone know I can make a script that logs in automatically on a server via ssh and gives the correct password. I dont want to use keys.
 hi. where is a good place to discuss empathy issues in ubuntu?
[11:52] <Valentina> I thougt unmount would be safely remove device?
[11:52] <Blank__> well, i do find a lack of empathy for people still using windows, does that count?
[11:52] <Blank__> :p
[11:52] <theadmin> Valentina: Yeah, there is no difference
[11:52] <digifor> I can't type anything in the recovery shells. I can't move in the recovery shells
[11:52] <coz_> hanno,   in my opinion....switch to pidigin
[11:53] <coz_> pidgin
[11:53] <Valentina> theadmin: Why having to options in the right click menu then?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> vigo: does simdock do the nice minimise trick that AWN does? Where minimised apps minimise to the dock "button"?
[11:53] <adi1> anyone has strange white flashes on gnome-do before it shows itself in karmic?
[11:53] <DigitalKiwi> Guest41623: why don't you want to use keys but would like to store the password plain text?
[11:53] <theadmin> Valentina: I don't have two, i only have "Eject" on removable devices :/
[11:53] <trapo> #ubuntu-es
[11:53] <ricoo> hi
[11:54] <Valentina> theadmin: I had two at my USB flash drive.
[11:54] <ricoo> 1 question
[11:54] <adi1> anyone noticing this white flash of gnome-do?
[11:54] <adi1> in karmic
[11:54] <alebak> hi!
[11:54]  * theadmin thinks it's strange
[11:54] <Valentina> theadmin: Well, never mind, I'm to tired to think of this right now.
[11:54] <Guest41623> DigitalKiwi: exactly, i would make the file only readable to me on a specifik location. Thing is i cant use keys here at work :/
[11:54] <alebak> I have a problem with the banshee player
[11:54] <DigitalKiwi> ah
[11:54] <ricoo> why i cant stick my mp4player in the pc?
[11:54] <hanno> also, most of my Launchpad bug reports fail to get any response at all from Ubuntu developers. What am I doing wrong? Here's one - https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/380228
[11:54] <alebak> When I to execute the application NO LOAD!
[11:55] <Delago> vigo: Ok, GRUB Reinstalled
[11:55] <vigo> ActionParsnip: It does on LDXE, I think it does on Gnome and whatever also, I am placing it in now to test.
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> alebak: run it in terminal, the output will be helpful
[11:55] <h4f1> Error 15 on boot any one to help ?
[11:55] <Delago> vigo, but I can't find kernels for 9.10
[11:55] <alebak> ActionParsnip, nothing
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> vigo: i love lxde, gonna have a play later, thanks man :)
[11:55] <alebak> in the system monitor... show
[11:55] <DigitalKiwi> Guest41623: http://nixcraft.com/shell-scripting/4489-ssh-passing-unix-login-passwords-through-shell-scripts.html
[11:55] <damo> hi all
[11:56] <vigo> Delago: Terrific! no upgrade -d or wait, let me look again.
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> alebak: so their is no output in the terminal, the app doesnt run
[11:56] <alebak> Name process: banshee-1 State: Sleeping %CPU: 0
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> alebak: is it in the output of: ps -ef | grep bans
[11:56] <alebak> an Wait canal
[11:56] <Guest41623> DigitalKiwi: thanks! =)
[11:56] <alebak> futex_wait_queue_me
[11:56] <DigitalKiwi> hope it works
[11:56] <chu> Well, it didn't die, but the cpu is stressing out :p
[11:56] <Delago> vigo, when I boot off my hdd it get to  grub>  that's all. but stage1, stage2 and all are there
[11:57] <alebak> Action, how to show you?
[11:57] <vigo> Delago: Any other OSs on that?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> !paste | alebak
[11:57] <Delago> vigo yes, win8
[11:57] <Delago> 7
[11:57] <alebak> ok
[11:58] <yan> hi. i'm using cryptsetup and lvm to encrypt my system. i upgraded to 9.10 last night. i used the graphical upgrade and it got stuck in some moment. afterwords i ran sudo dpkg --configure -a and the upgrade was finished. now i cant pass the password prompt and get the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/308419/ . i already tried the steps from the luks faq (http://www.saout.de/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=LUKSFaq) but everything looks fine
[11:58] <yan> . running update-initramfs in a chrooted environment, i get the error "cryptsetup: WARNING: invalid line in /etc/crypttab -". i have found many forum posts about this, but no solutions. can anybody help me?
[11:58] <littlegrn> can somebody please tell me the basic differences between ubuntu, xubuntu kubuntu(kde?) etc?
[11:58] <FloodBot2> yan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:58] <vigo> ok,,,looking
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> littlegrn: default desktop
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> littlegrn: kubuntu uses kde+kwin, Ubuntu uses gnome+metacity, Xubntu uses xfce+something
[11:58] <alebak> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/308430/
[11:59] <moDumasser> ActionParsnip, sorry, i mean theres i386 and generic, i have a 32 bit intel chip so i usually go with i386, but if i try now it throws its toys so i can only use generic, and only recently
[11:59] <alebak> can you see?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> littlegrn: they are all ubuntu and official releases
[11:59] <moDumasser> ActionParsnip, befopre 20 mins ago i couldnt use anything.
[11:59] <rajen> HI
[11:59] <alebak> ActionParsnip, I have ubuntu 9.10 installed!
[11:59] <rajen> Need some help
[11:59] <moDumasser> i might save all my data and do a clean install
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> alebak: kill all those apps, then it will run
[11:59] <moDumasser> im off to bed
[11:59] <littlegrn> ActionParsnip, thanks! What would you recommend me for a 2GB RAM and an Intel Atom at 1.8GHz laptop?
[11:59] <bazhang> rajen, please ask a question then
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> moDumasser: generic just means will suit all, the i386 is the arch of the kernel, my kernel also says generic but is 64bit
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> littlegrn: any will run fine, even kubuntu
[12:00] <alebak> ActionParsnip, ok!
[12:00] <K3rl0u4rn> sebsebseb: have you read this log I sent to you ?
[12:00] <rajen> i am having problems with my mozilla, I installed the flash plugin and it works fine when the video is normal size, but as soon as I maximize the video, it becomes very slow
[12:00] <rajen> any suggestion?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> rajen: have you installed and configured video drivers?
[12:01] <littlegrn> btw am I able to somehow run Terminal Console from .... XChat?
[12:01] <rajen> nah don't know where to do that from
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> rajen: if you run: gksudo jockey-gtk     its a good start
[12:02] <masterloki> ok
[12:02] <masterloki> i found a fix for flash and youtube and the buttons for 32 bit
[12:02] <masterloki> and i got to be honest
[12:02] <sebsebseb> K3rl0u4rn: wrong one
[12:02] <masterloki> IM REALLY CONFUSED WHY ITS WORKING
[12:02] <sebsebseb> K3rl0u4rn: you wanted seb2
[12:02] <GatoLoko> masterloki: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[12:02] <masterloki> so figured i'd stop by
[12:02] <mesdag> ActionParsnip, back and this time i do have a signal on the second monitor :]
[12:02] <masterloki> GatoLoko, no habla
[12:03] <K3rl0u4rn> sebsebseb: oups; sorry, thaught you were the same ;)
[12:03] <h4f1> I am in recovery console . sudo grub. can't find such command
[12:03] <mesdag> got some weird error on reboot tho... something about mounts in fstab that could not be loaded
[12:03] <h4f1> any one
[12:03] <sebsebseb> K3rl0u4rn: ok
[12:03] <masterloki> ok so i wanted to see exactly what was going on when the player contacted youtube and was getting errors
[12:03] <h4f1> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:03] <sebsebseb> caps > masterloki
[12:03] <h4f1> heeeeeeeeelp
[12:03] <K3rl0u4rn> seb2: here it is : http://pastebin.com/m465135ca
[12:03] <sebsebseb> !caps > masterloki
[12:03] <masterloki> and i installed a plugin called... httpfox
[12:03] <h4f1> !bot
[12:03] <K3rl0u4rn> seb2: sorry for time, I sent it to sebsebseb thinking you were the same ;)
[12:03] <Delago> vigo:  i also don't have menu.lst
[12:04] <masterloki> with this active youtube works. inactive it does not.
[12:04] <h4f1> Error 15 on boot
[12:04] <rajen> thanks it works
[12:04] <vigo> h4f1: How to restore Grub: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708
[12:04] <masterloki> embeded vids, all the places flash is broken and all.
[12:04] <tj83> somone suggest the in their opinion the best weather desktop widget?
[12:04] <masterloki> and ive no idea what its doing to make it work, and indeed what its doing by default and active
[12:04] <h4f1>  vigo: the problem is that it can't find grub command
[12:04] <vigo> Delago: Restore it from the backup?
[12:05] <littlegrn> can I fix my lag somehow? I've got 169SEC! ping...?
[12:05] <masterloki> so if any firefox/flash devs/hackers see this - check that out - we're mystified here. confirmed replicate-able
[12:05] <Delago> vigo: I excluded /boot from backups...
[12:05] <masterloki> going to try on 64bit shortly.
[12:05] <masterloki> So in the meantime anyone got flash problems?
[12:05] <Delago> vigo: i just need the kernels...
[12:05] <coz_> guys is anyone aware that compiz-fusion-plugins is not in the repository?
[12:05] <h4f1> why is grub command not found
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> !find  compiz-fusion
[12:06] <masterloki> hey coz_ is that script for getting ALL the plugins via git around doya know?
[12:06] <vigo> h4f1: That link is to restore or fix Grub, fix it then you should have the commands repaired or replaced.
[12:06] <damo> hi all
[12:06] <yan> nobody for my question?
[12:06] <coz_> masterloki,  i have it yes hold on
[12:06] <masterloki> coz_, awesome thanks
[12:06] <damo> i got a question for anyone plz
[12:06] <masterloki> !ask
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> !info compiz-fusion-plugins-main > coz_
[12:07] <littlegrn> ActionParsnip, is there something like a /run equivalent in XChat?
[12:07] <damo> anyone heard of a game called urban terror
[12:07] <masterloki> what cha got DamianZ ?
[12:07] <coz_> masterloki,  actually this script is for many of the experimental plugins however because plugins-unsupported is not there  you wont have cubemodel  which can be installed manually   http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/132551/soreau-script
[12:07] <masterloki> er damo?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> littlegrn: i dont use it, no idea, sorry
[12:07] <damo> u heard of a game called urban terror
[12:07] <h4f1> vigo: I am in recovery console. have shell in installer enviroment. when i type sudo grub or just grub it says no such command
[12:07] <masterloki> that's the one
[12:07] <masterloki> thanks
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> !info compiz-fusion-plugins-extra > coz_
[12:07] <littlegrn> I'd like to be able to run programs from my chat client - as if they are ran in terminal... is that possible?
[12:07] <damo> wanted know if tht game will work for ubuntu
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> damo: indeed, its badass
[12:07] <masterloki> ActionParsnip, quit doing the same thing plz
[12:07] <Taejo> after I log in, my mouse pointer is invisible (but functional) for a while... not sure it appears after a certain length of time, or maybe after I've started a couple programs. Possibly related: gnome-display-properties recognises that I have an external monitor but doesn't list the correct resolutions until unplugging, replugging and running xrandr
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> damo: works great
[12:07] <damo> how
[12:07] <Delago> is there any way i can download the latest kernel for 9.10? i deleted my boot and i can't restore it
[12:07] <damo> i can only find the windows one
[12:07] <damo> not a ubuntu one
[12:07] <coz_> masterloki,   using that script use the  "i" option to install individually  since  the "a" option to install all doesnt seem to work here
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> damo: download the installed .sh file and run it
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> masterloki: sme ting?
[12:08] <littlegrn> ActionParsnip, could you reffer me to a gnome chat client that allows such operation?
[12:08] <damo> where will i find tht please
[12:08] <damo> and thanks
[12:08] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  but plugins extra is not plugins unsupported
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> littlegrn: no idea dude, why not ask the channel instead?
[12:09] <damo> anyone know where i can find urban terror for ubuntu
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> coz_: your initial statement regarded plugins for compiz not being on the repo so I was showing you that they are there
[12:09] <littlegrn> ActionParsnip, 'cause you seem to be the smartest guy around ;-) (yes - feel flattered :P ) - you answer all people's questions ;) Besides nobody else says anything about it (I'm not sure if that's correctly put)
[12:09] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  I see except for plugins  unsupported
[12:09] <Taejo> if anyone's looking at my problem, I'm on a thinkpad with intel graphics, just upgraded to Karmic from Jaunty
[12:10] <vigo> h4f1: Did you read down to this part? How to restore the Ubuntu grub bootloader (9.10 and beyond)
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> damo: ftp://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/games/urbanterror/UrbanTerror_41_FULL.zip
[12:10] <Delago> Anyone? Please help
[12:10] <eL_pSycHo> using Karmic, my mout pointer themes dont apply.... i try the stock ones like redglass and nothing i still see the default theme.. how can i fix this?
[12:10] <damo> thanks mate
[12:10] <eL_pSycHo> *my mouse pointer
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> damo: its on the urban terror site which you could find in milliseconds using any search engine
[12:11] <vigo> yan: I looked, and yes, the channel is rather busy, Did you select the LVM on install?
[12:11] <digifor> I suspect this is my issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/464591
[12:11] <divo> hi
[12:11] <yan> vigo: what do you mean with "select lvm on install"
[12:11] <digifor> How long does it typically take to compile an nvidia driver on an iMac?
[12:12] <ccc> hi
[12:12] <divo> i want sexy
[12:12] <mesdag> ActionParsnip, do you recommend to use the nvidia drivers from apt or install them manually?
[12:12] <Delago> vigo any ideea where i could find those missing files? the 9.10 kernel?
[12:12] <vigo> yan: You Ciphered or Encrypted a slice or partition, it looks like, is that correct?
[12:13] <ccc> i have installeted virtual machien, but i don't find the gui, how to use the application? thx
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> mesdag: i always use apt-get to install them
[12:13] <bazhang> ccc, which one
[12:13] <ccc> hi bazhang
[12:13] <alebak> ActionParsnip, I have a info message when I run the banshee
[12:13] <alebak> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/308448/
[12:13] <yan> vigo: i encrypted a whole lvm partition. sda1 contains my boot partition, sda2 the lvm with swap, root, and home
[12:14] <vigo> Delago: Is boot and stuff fixed/repaired now?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> alebak: not sure, maybe its a bug. do websearches show anything
[12:14] <alebak> ActionParsnip, the banshee is executing
[12:14] <alebak> thank you!
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> alebak: if its running, dont sweat it :D
[12:15] <Delago> vigo: yes
[12:15] <alebak> ActionParsnip, thank u
[12:15] <vigo> yan: Did you write down that passcode or the prompt that was given?
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> alebak: np bro, glad you got the gold :)
[12:15] <Delago> vigo: grub is restored, but not the kernels. vmlinuz-version-generic
[12:15] <vigo> Delago: Have you ran update/upgrade in terminal yet?
[12:15] <yan> vigo: did you see http://paste.ubuntu.com/308419/ ?
[12:15] <alebak> :D
[12:16] <littlegrn> does anybody know a gnome GUI including chat client that allows users to run commands with like a "/run" command in order to execute system commands as if they are ran in terminal
[12:16] <od3n> got a quick question
[12:17] <Delago> vigo: how? i am still on livecd.. i can't boot in my linux.
[12:17] <od3n> I am about to install real player and its asking me where I want to install it
[12:17] <od3n> so where shold I put apps when installing them
[12:17] <AmokPaule> i normally put them somewhere under /home
[12:18] <Cantcme> is DRI2 implemented?
[12:18] <Cantcme> in karmic
[12:18] <vigo> yan: Ok, uhm, looks like a device is locked by the Encryption, when I installed and played with that I got a prompt that gave me the passkey to enter it , in case something failed.
[12:19] <aaron11> Helo I cant seem to partiton my ubuntu with windows side-by-side for some reason.
[12:19] <nayfe> Hi. I just upgraded to 9.10, and process "dd" is using all CPU. What it is, can I kill it, and how do I kill it?
[12:19] <danila_master> ПРивет! новичков принимаете???
[12:19] <vigo> Delago: Oh ratso, I thought you had stated that the boot issue was solved..
[12:19] <lizzzy> So, I downloaded opera's deb file and installed it but I don't seem to find opera anywhere on my system :(
[12:19] <DJones> !ru | danila_master
[12:19] <bazhang> danila_master, #ubuntu-ru
[12:19] <Cantcme> aaron11, do you already have a free partition or are you trying to shrink your windows partition?
[12:19] <danila_master> ok, sorry ))
[12:20] <Delago> vigo: i deleted everything in /boot. now, with your help i restored grub
[12:20] <yan> vigo: ? it gave you the password? that doesn't sound very safe ;)
[12:20] <Delago> but still i am missing kernel files
[12:20] <aaron11> Cantcme: Im trying to make my windows partiton bigger than Ubuntu's
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> lizzzy: will it run from terminal?
[12:21] <lizzzy> ActionParsnip: $opera --> opera: command not found
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> lizzzy: did you run: sudo apt-get -i opera_deb_file_name.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[12:21] <aaron11> Cantcme: I cant see the slidder that I saw in a tutorial
[12:21] <vigo> Delago: Ok, Install or boot to it, then run update/upgrade to fetch the latest kernels, as needed.
[12:21] <Cantcme> aaron11: are you using gparted?
[12:21] <lizzzy> ActionParsnip: I just downloaded and double clicked the .deb package.
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> lizzzy: you need to use that command to install the deb, the -f install will satisfy the deps it has
[12:21] <lizzzy> ActionParsnip: Oh ok
[12:21] <aaron11> Cantcme: No just the installer
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> lizzzy: i'd use the command line, you can see whats going on then
[12:21] <digifor> lizzzy, sometimes killall gnome-panel will make it appear
[12:21] <aaron11> Cantcme: Im at the partitoning stage
[12:22] <Delago> vigo.please pass me that ubuntu forum page again
[12:22] <Cantcme> aaron11: boot into the live cd and run gparted
[12:22] <littlegrn> I'm about to install ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop with a live-usb... is there anything in perticuilar that I should know?
[12:22] <aaron11> ok
[12:22] <digifor> I'd second ActionParsnip on using command line for dpkg individual packages.
[12:22] <aaron11> Cantcme: Yes after that
[12:22] <lizzzy> K.. Thanks :)
[12:23] <Cantcme> aaron11: if you still cant resize your partitions you could have some files near the end of one of your partitions, so it wont let you
[12:23] <vigo> yan: It generated a passkey, then I was told to write it down and re start the machine, everything was then dumped, pretty darn safe.
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> nayfe: dd is a data copying tool that copys bit by bit from source to destination, you can kill it using killall dd   or checking its pid in ps -ef | grep dd    and killing it that way
[12:23] <vigo> Delago: here ya go: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> lizzzy: gui methods are nice but when stuff doesnt work you dont gte nice outputs like cli does
[12:24] <jbrinkmann> Hi, I've got a problem with my gnome desktop. I left my worksation for break (screen locked), returned and wasnt able to login.
[12:24] <lizzzy> hmm..
[12:24] <Delago> how can i go in my ubuntu 9.10 from a live cd 9.04? to install things on 9.10 from 9.04
[12:24] <jbrinkmann> i then rebootet from the first tty , cleanly
[12:24] <aaron11> Cantcme: It looks like i have a lot of partitons
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Delago: you could download the debs in the 9.04 live cd and chroot to the installed system to then install them
[12:24] <jbrinkmann> however, now the panel for example doenst starts. it complains about gtk+ version too old
[12:25] <h4f1> I installed grub2 . after restart I get Error 15.
[12:25] <h4f1> I  found few guides how to fix that but can't follow them cause
[12:25] <h4f1> grub /bin/sh not found.
[12:25] <jbrinkmann> i'm using 9.10 (upgraded two days ago) from 9.04
[12:25] <Cantcme> does anybody have a way to auto-disable compiz when you launch a 3d app/fullscreen app (that works with games running in Wine) ?
[12:25] <yan> vigo: ok
[12:25] <Cantcme> aaron11: yeh, you can resize which ever ones you want now
[12:25] <Cantcme> aaron11: just be careful :)
[12:25] <vigo> Dang, good call ActionParsnip. read what AP said Delago.
[12:25] <nayfe> actionparsnip thanks. Is it sth that runs only once, after installation, and I should better leave it to do its job?
[12:25] <aaron11> Cantcme: How do I resize again?
[12:25] <jbrinkmann> any hint or pointer into the right direction would be more than welcome. this is my production machine in the office (desktop)
[12:25] <seb2> K3rl0u4rn: I stand corrected. Do a service rsyslog start then dpkg --configure -a should do the trick
[12:26] <pigphish1> good morningall
[12:26] <Cantcme> aaron11: right click on the partition you want to resize, then select the resize/move option
[12:26] <aaron11> ok
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> nayfe: i'm not sure, i dont know why dd would be running, if you use ps -ef you should be able to see its options too and work out whats going on
[12:26] <aaron11> Cantcme: Thanks
[12:26] <Cantcme> np
[12:27] <yoshi765> FUCK FREENODE
[12:27] <GatoLoko> yoshi765: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[12:27] <jrib> opme
[12:28] <Threetimes> Hi, my sensors limits are way off. How can I fix this?
[12:28] <zaoul1> is it possible when I run 'terminator' .. instead of opening up a new terminator it will focus the one already being run, also this could be great not just for terminator
[12:28] <Taejo> just upgraded to Karmic, and sound doesn't work. No hardware listed when I go into Preferences > Sound > Hardware
[12:28] <Threetimes> !es | GatoLoko
[12:28] <Cantcme> how do i auto-disable compiz when i launch a game (that works in Wine too) ?
[12:28] <sebsebseb> !language >  youngtill1die
[12:28] <kjelle> hi
[12:28] <sebsebseb> youngtill1die: oh  no my auto complete messed up again
[12:29] <kjelle> I run ubuntu w/o graphics. How can i setup so a user is automatically logged in as i boot+
[12:29] <sebsebseb> youngtill1die: oh just saw they got kicked by jrib as well
[12:29] <sunkoo> how to install rpa
[12:29] <rFalk> some messages via pidgin are not transmitted to me when using fluxbox. logging in on gnome, i receive the delayes messages, as if they were new. whats wrong here?
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Cantcme: you'd need to write a script to switch in metacity, then run the game, when the game ends, switch in compiz again
[12:29] <sunkoo> how to install rpm
[12:29] <sebsebseb> !alien |  sunkoo
[12:29] <sunkoo> in ubuntu
[12:29] <DJones> !rpm | sunkoo
[12:29] <vigo> alien | sunkoo
[12:29] <Cantcme> ActionParsnip: ah, thanks, but i think thats out of my expertise hehe
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> sunkoo: replace quite dangerous, with very dangerous
[12:29] <seb2> sunkoo: apt-get install rpm
[12:30] <Delago> how do i get in my sda5 to chroot?
[12:30] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: Why?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Cantcme: why its like 4 lines of code
[12:30] <vigo> whoops
[12:30] <vigo> !alien
[12:30] <Threetimes> seb2: that's scary... don't do that
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: they are packaged in a different way, alien is a best effort but its not to be used a lot
[12:30] <seb2> Threetimes: You can install it but you won't be able to use it to install packages. that's all.
[12:30] <sebsebseb> youngtill1die: which was also why my auto complete didn't work
[12:30] <vigo> sunkoo: that ubottu was for you
[12:30] <Threetimes> seb2: huh?
[12:31] <Threetimes> seb2: what does it do then?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Cantcme: #!/bin/bash       metacity --replace         lauch_game        compiz --replace
[12:31] <seb2> Threetimes: nothing, I use it to get the rpm2cpio command.
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Cantcme: put those in a text file and make it executable using chmod +x <file>
[12:31] <Threetimes> ah...
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Cantcme: when you use the script it will do what it says
[12:32] <Cantcme> ActionParsnip: thanks, ill give it a go with a game under Wine
[12:32] <Threetimes> Hi, my sensors (temp and voltage) limits are (way) off. How can I fix this?
[12:32] <seb2> Threetimes: off or off-limits ?
[12:32] <digifor> Is there a command line way to remove the nvidia driver in karmic
[12:32] <digifor> ?
[12:33] <Threetimes> seb2: the values are ok, but the software thinks it isn't: http://peter-server.homelinux.net/munin/peter/server.peter.html#Sensors
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Cantcme: sure, just remember that you can add more commands as you wish, so you could cd to the location of the command to run it, or you could copy in the shortcut from the entry in your menus if one exists
[12:33] <kjelle> I run ubuntu w/o graphics. How can i setup so a user is automatically logged in as i boot? Atm i get asked for login/password. I dont want that.
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> digifor: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*
[12:33] <dassouki> whenever i try to connect to my server i get Error: DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name :1.228 was not provided by any .service files
[12:33] <youngtill1die> sebsebseb, what u about?
[12:33] <dassouki> Please select another viewer and try again.
[12:33] <Pastoolio> hi everyone, where can i get login screen themes for the new ubuntu karmic?
[12:34] <Cantcme> Cantcme: cool, thanks :)
[12:34] <digifor> thanks. You are really first in action ActionParsnip !
[12:34] <Threetimes> the negative voltages limets need to be swapped (as in: -6 is less than -4) and temp limits are just wrong...
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> digifor: i try
[12:34] <bazhang> youngtill1die, ??
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> !theme | Pastoolio
[12:34] <seb2> Threetimes: I see nothing wrong.
[12:34] <sebsebseb> youngtill1die: I got the bot to pm you by mistake
[12:35] <youngtill1die> bazhang, what?
[12:35] <youngtill1die> sebsebseb, oh/understand
[12:35] <Pastoolio> thank you ubottu :)
[12:36] <Threetimes> seb2: http://peter-server.homelinux.net/munin/peter/server.peter-sensors_temp.html and http://peter-server.homelinux.net/munin/peter/server.peter-sensors_volt.html
[12:36] <DeaD_LocK> uptime
[12:36] <Threetimes> seb2: look at the warn/crit values at the bottom. They are the same as sensor's output.
[12:38] <Threetimes> !thanks | Pastoolio
[12:38] <digifor> Well this wierd flickering thing in karmic is not about the nvidia drivers in my case
[12:39] <Cantcme> ActionParsnip: thanks alot, that script worked great :D
[12:40] <mastermind1> how many of  u have this bug in ubuntu 9.10 bug no #472609 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp/+bug/472609
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Cantcme: np man, compiz blows and makes stuff like games go weird so users have to add extra stuff like you just did. Isnt compiz great..answer = no
[12:40] <Cantcme> hehe
[12:40] <mastermind1> how many of  u have this bug in ubuntu 9.10 bug no #472609 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp/+bug/472609
[12:40] <san123> hey ther can any1 please help me i will b gr8ful i have attached my Billionton Bluetooth Device in USB Port but in ubuntu Bluetooth is disabled how to enable it please help!
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> mastermind1:  you could at least summarize it a little bit.
[12:41] <indus> hi folks
[12:41] <Threetimes> ActionParsnip: answer=yes. I can play games (nexuiz) with compiz running. No problems at all, fps is good...
[12:41] <san123> how to enable Bluetooth in ubuntu?
[12:41] <Cantcme> Threetimes: ive found that some games work fine while other don't
[12:41] <mastermind1> Dr_Willis: like what
[12:41] <damo> hi all
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> san123:  when i plugged mine in. it showed a bluetooth icon on the panel. Im not sure if i installed anything extra or not.
[12:41] <indus> san123 isnt it already enabled
[12:41] <damo> who helped me before with the urban terror link ?
[12:42] <Threetimes> san123: is your bluetooth turned on/plugged in?
[12:42] <Pastoolio> does ubuntu 9.10 still use gdm?
[12:42] <san123> no it isnt enabled that icon has come to the panel but it is showing disabled
[12:42] <indus> Pastoolio: of course it does
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> mastermind1:  state the actual bug/problem. Its very unlikely that people are going to that url just to read the problem.
[12:42] <Orbixx> How can I get Ubuntu 9.10 running in a Xen domU?
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> Pastoolio:  it uses the new GDM yes.
[12:42] <Threetimes> san123: do you have it built in into a laptop?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Threetimes: well a normal user has had to add extra scripts to run something as simple as a game, hardly practical
[12:43] <mastermind1> oh The icon change in notification area during every login
[12:43] <Pastoolio> Dr_Willis : where do i change the theme?
[12:43] <unitedpotsmokers> guys, one question. what happen if i install karmic (desktop 32 version) to netbook?
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> Pastoolio:  short answer.. You dont. Its not that customizeable at this time.
[12:43] <damo> how can i get urban terror to run in ubuntu
[12:43] <Pastoolio> :(
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> unitedpotsmokers: you will have karmic on a netoook
[12:43] <Threetimes> san123: is there a little switch to turn bluetooth on/off? probably close to the wifi switch...
[12:43] <Docteh> unitedpotsmokers: be more specific in your question
[12:43] <san123> no I dont have inbuilt in my laptop
[12:43] <mastermind1> nitedpotsmokers:  better use 9.04 .. 9.10 has many bugs
[12:44] <san123> i have attached USB Bluetooth
[12:44] <mikeCook> Hello all... is anyone able to help me with an ipod issue? I have just installed ubuntu9.10 and are having some niggling problems :-)
[12:44] <mastermind1> still to be fixed
[12:44] <san123> there is no switch on it
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> !ipod | mikeCook
[12:44] <Threetimes> san123:  mine works out of the box. What does lsusb say?
[12:44] <san123> ?
[12:45] <Threetimes> Open a terminal
[12:45] <Threetimes> !terminal | san123
[12:45] <Threetimes> and type lsusb
[12:45] <JacobT1> hey room
[12:45] <damo> hey jacob
[12:45] <Threetimes> ans post the ouput to pastebin
[12:45] <Threetimes> !pastebin | san123_
[12:45] <Threetimes> !pastebin | san123
[12:45] <damo> how are you today jacob
[12:46] <damo> im trying to get urban terror to run on ubuntu anyone help plz ?
[12:46] <c_nick> how do you leave a msg while quitting eg : nkk has quit ("Laters~!")
[12:46] <blip-> i'm looking to install ubuntu mainly for Eucalyptus tools/cloud.   am I better off going with a more stable 9.04 rather than 9.10 ?
[12:46] <JacobT1> well thansk and you i have 2 issures though (well i have more then that but we can't get into all of them haha) the first is my auto updates and other things won't install unless i am physically connected to the domain its set up on
[12:46] <Docteh> Threetimes: bot abuse!
[12:47] <Threetimes> Docteh: no, that is bot use, not ABuse...
[12:47] <Docteh> c_nick: /quit diediedie
[12:47] <Docteh> Threetimes: you triggered it in correcting a typo
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> blip-: its a matter of opinion which is more stable, depends whom you ask. Jaunty still has 12 months support in it so no harm in using that
[12:47] <blip-> ActionParsnip, ok thanks
[12:47] <unitedpotsmokers> OK. now i already have karmic koala (x86 desktop version), and i used netbootin and 'burn' it into pendrive. i install karmic on HP laptop no problem. but now i want install on netbook. can i install this version on netbook?
[12:47] <Threetimes> Docteh: blame !tab
[12:48] <damo> can someone help me plz when u got time
[12:48] <cambazz> hello. what is the rc-status equivalent in ubuntu
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> unitedpotsmokers: sure
[12:48] <blip-> damo, I can fit you in for a slot tomorrow night :D
[12:48] <cambazz> (showing the services that will be started at bootup)
[12:48] <damo> wooot
[12:48] <damo> thts too long lmao
[12:48] <Threetimes> san123:  What's happening? the terminal is *not* scary...
[12:48] <blip-> damo, just ask :)
[12:48] <dassouki> i'm ssh'ed into a remote server, can i use a local app to open a file ?
[12:48] <damo> i only want to run urban terror
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> damo:  im installing urban terror right now using the 'djl' program ->  http://en.djl-linux.org/
[12:48] <san123> please help! http://imagebin.org/70287
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> unitedpotsmokers: the netbook remix has a specially geared gui for small netbook screens, you can install what you have then install the netbook front end afterwards
[12:48] <damo> im trying to run urban terror on ubuntu
[12:48] <Docteh> Tsomethinggoeshere: its not the tab thats the problem, its the up arrow ;)
[12:49] <Docteh> I mean Threetimes
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> unitedpotsmokers: if you really want
[12:49] <blip-> damo, is that a game ?  a windows game ?
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> dassouki:  if you used 'sshfs' you can mount a remote box to a local directory yes.. gnome places -> connect to server.. can also do that.
[12:49] <Threetimes> san123: ah, you have a terminal open.
[12:49] <damo> thanks willis
[12:49] <san123> ya
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> damo:  If you are having an actual problem with the game then state the problem. :)
[12:49] <UbuntuUser> hi all
[12:49] <Threetimes> san123: have you run lsusb yet?
[12:49] <damo> yh windows game
[12:49] <dassouki> Dr_Willis: for some reason i time out and get a DBUS error after a few minutes and can only connect if i restart
[12:49] <damo> no im just trying to find a ubuntu version
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> dassouki:  with sshfs or the gnome connect to server?
[12:50] <san123> no
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> dassouki:  try the other  - perhaps - ive used sshfs a lot with little problems
[12:50] <damo> im still confused lol
[12:50] <damo> on how to download it
[12:50] <Threetimes> type lsusb and press enter. It will display info on connectet usb devices
[12:50] <dassouki> Dr_Willis: gnome places ... error: Error: DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name :1.228 was not provided by any .service files
[12:50] <dassouki> Please select another viewer and try again.
[12:50] <damo> so i need to install dji ?
[12:50] <unitedpotsmokers> ActionParsnip, oo ic. i install ubuntu-remix on netbook but i dont like the menu, thats why i want to try to install desktop version on netbook
[12:50] <blip-> damo, there may not be a linux version of that game... you're better off running most windows games in windows, they usually run better there.     If you really want to try it on linux, look into Wine
[12:50] <blip-> !wine
[12:50] <damo> kk np
[12:51] <damo> thanks
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> damo:  install that djl program, install it.. and it is like a GPL 'steam' app that caninstall all sorts of games.. Or there may be some UT specific docs/wiki pages for ubuntu also
[12:51] <Threetimes> you should copy and paste that to paste.ubuntu.com (or a similar site) and post a link to there in this channel.
[12:51] <damo> thanks
[12:51] <damo> ill do tht now
[12:51] <blip-> damo, good luck
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> blip-:  Urban Terror - has a natuve linux client. :)
[12:51] <Threetimes> Then i'll look at your usb-devices-info and hopefully say something useful :D
[12:51] <damo> thanks
[12:51] <KenBW2> Does Karmic have an indexing thing for search?
[12:52] <UbuntuUser> my vlc player slice radio streams after upgrade to 9.10
[12:52] <blip-> Dr_Willis, nice.  I actually run steam under wine,  just for the friends list, I get invites to games then boot into windows :)
[12:52] <damo> willis
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> KenBW2:  you could use the locate database 'locate command'
[12:52] <damo> silly question but
[12:52] <damo> i extrcted the file to my desktop
[12:52] <Pastoolio> damn the upgrade broke a lot of my stuff ;(
[12:52] <damo> how to i install it
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> !tab | damo
[12:52] <san123> can anyone help me?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> unitedpotsmokers: sure you can even revert to the original desktop if you install netbook remix
[12:52]  * Pastoolio wonders wtf 9.10 gets released if its so buggy
[12:52] <UbuntuUser> another words i can't hear nothing smoothly
[12:52] <KenBW2> Dr_Willis: nothing like when it had Tracker then?
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> damo:  read the docs at the djl site yet?  its been a while since i last installed it. :)
[12:52] <damo> i dont know how to install stuff on here
[12:52] <damo> kk
[12:52] <damo> thanks
[12:52] <damo> brb
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> KenBW2:  no idea on tracker.. i always use locate/find
[12:52] <san123> How to enable Bluetooth Service in Ubuntu
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Pastoolio: works 100% here, with only mild bugs in alpha 4
[12:53] <san123> how to Enable or Install Sharing Service in Ubuntu
[12:53] <Threetimes> san123: this is an example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/308475/
[12:53] <Threetimes> san123: we need that info to help you.
[12:54] <san123> I dont understand
[12:54] <Threetimes> san123: what exactly is the problem...
[12:54] <Pastoolio> my ciro-dock is broken++
[12:54] <Threetimes> can you type lsusb in the terminal?
[12:54] <Markus-vn> sorry
[12:54] <Markus-vn> can i ask ?
[12:54] <mikeCook> hi again... still having problems with ubuntu recognising my ipod... it only shows up as a generic USB device...
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> Markus-vn:  ask your question and see :)
[12:55] <san123> hey can you give me the link where i can post image?
[12:55] <Threetimes> you made a screenshot? ok...
[12:55] <Threetimes> !screenshot
[12:55] <Markus-vn> Dr_Willis: i installed Amarok in Karmic,but cannot play
[12:56] <dassouki> i'm having troubles connecting through sftp and places
[12:56] <san123> problem is that i have attached my bluetooth device in USB Port but in my Ubuntu 9.10 Bluetooth is disabled
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> Markus-vn:  i dident say tell me. :) lol..   Im not even sure i have amarok installed...
[12:56] <Markus-vn> Dr_Willis: can i fix this ? or wait for the developer fix the prob ?
[12:56] <Markus-vn> lolz
[12:56] <Markus-vn> ....
[12:56] <Markus-vn> :D
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> Markus-vn:  no idea whaa the 'actual' problem with the program is..
[12:56] <Markus-vn> ok thanks :D
[12:56] <FloodBot2> Markus-vn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> Markus-vn:  run it from a terminal.. look for error messages for starters
[12:57] <u007-1> hi, anyone encounter lag on mouse on every keyboard alphabet key stroke? im having this problem on my lenovo sl400 laptop, didnt have this problem back in 9.04 version :(
[12:57] <Orbixx> How can I get Ubuntu 9.10 running in a Xen domU?
[12:57] <blip-> Markus-vn, you may need the win32 codecs package, not sure though
[12:57] <san123> http://imagebin.org/70290 help someone
[12:57] <Threetimes> san123: we *need* the lsusb info to help you. We can't smell the problem from up here...
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> Markus-vn:  amarok plays fine here.
[12:57] <trekkie3k> are there any known problems with XKB in 9.10? I have XKB settings which are disregarded by any app except gnome-terminal and xterm ...
[12:57] <san123> I posted the info
[12:57] <Pastoolio> omg my ubuntu is so broken :((( gonna have to reinstall it 9.04 or something :(
[12:57] <san123> now please help
[12:57] <Threetimes> san123: thanks
[12:57] <Delago> Dudes, how can I restore my 9.10 kernels from a 9.04 livecd (i deleted them)
[12:57] <hyb> how to change eva fonts
[12:57] <om26er> evening all!
[12:58] <Markus-vn> i installed the codec pack,fully updated but it's not work at all
[12:58] <blip-> Delago, deleted your kernel ??
[12:58] <mikeCook> hello again all... still trying to get my ipod to be recognised in Karmic. tried to follow instructions but the ftp client wont accept anon logins... complete NOOB here:-)
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> Markus-vn:  see if it will play wav files, or ogg audio files
[12:58] <Delago> blip-: yes, the whole /boot. accidentaly, from this livecd
[12:58] <Threetimes> san123: you have exactly tha same dongle as I have. Are you using ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10?
[12:58] <om26er> Markus-vn: which codec pack? ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[12:58] <Docteh> Orbixx: does karmic actually have a -xen kernel?
[12:58] <san123> I m using Ubuntu 9.10
[12:58] <Markus-vn> om26er: yes
[12:58] <Markus-vn> :D
[12:58] <om26er> great
[12:58] <Orbixx> Docteh: That's what I'm trying to find out.
[12:59] <om26er> Markus-vn: 32bit ?
[12:59] <blip-> Delago, lol is all I have to say :D
[12:59] <Markus-vn> om26er: yes
[12:59] <san123> wow! its good that we both have same thing now i can tell you my doubts
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> Markus-vn:  i recall some extra kde packs to get mp3 playback going in many apps.
[12:59] <Threetimes> san123: have you ever used the bluetooth dongle on a older version of ubuntu?
[12:59] <om26er> Markus-vn: mp3 files work?
[12:59] <Markus-vn> om26er: no
[12:59] <Delago> blip-: you don't have any idea on how I could repair? :(
[12:59] <Docteh> Orbixx: fire up firefox and take a tickyboo at packages.ubuntu.com
[12:59] <Markus-vn> om26er: mp3 files not working at all
[12:59] <san123> no i have xp installed in my pc i used this dongle in xp but not in ubuntu i m new in ubuntu
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> Markus-vn:  so ONLY mp3's dont work?
[13:00] <om26er> Markus-vn: can you do something. place your cursor over an mp3 file for few seconds and see if the song plays
[13:00] <Markus-vn> Dr_Willis: i haven't try others yet
[13:00] <Taejo> ok, it seems my mouse pointer appears as soon as I *close* a window
[13:00] <blip-> Delago, I would ask in ##linux.  There should be a way to recreate the boot partition without reinstalling everything.
[13:00] <san123> Threetimes, Can you help me?
[13:00] <om26er> Markus-vn: try: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[13:00] <brot> hi everyone :) May i ask for the correct channel to ask "ubuntu one" related questions?
[13:00] <Threetimes> it works in xp, so it's not a hardware fault. I guess it's a bug in 9.10, since it works in 9.04 (and some oder versions...). I don't know what changed...
[13:01] <Markus-vn> ok
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> brot:  i think theres a #ubuntuone channel
[13:01] <brot> right :)
[13:01] <brot> thanks and bye :)
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> I have no idea why we need a #ubuntuone ... but we got one. :)
[13:02] <blip-> hahah
[13:02] <san123> hey! are you there? can you help me? can anyone help me my bluetoth is attached but it is disabled in ubuntu how do i enable it?
[13:02] <AmokPaule> How can i just rename a folder?
[13:02] <obiwan_> hey guys, is there any regext translator?
[13:02] <jo-erlend> 3G connections using network-manager is said to be added in 0.8.1. Does anyone know if it'll be available as an update to karmic when it's available?
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> AmokPaule:  select it, f2 - rename.  is one way...
[13:02] <jo-erlend> that is, using bluetooth!
[13:02] <Threetimes> san123: i'm here and i'm trying to find out what happened
[13:02] <san123> if not that then can you tell me how to install Sharing Service in Ubuntu 9.10
[13:03] <obiwan_> i mean, i mean mkdir [1-5] and it makes mkdir 1 mkdir 2... ? i need a regext to normal translator for bash/terminal
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> san123:  if youmean 'samba shareing' install the samba package and  support packages.
[13:03] <san123> Threetimes, I have very less time left i have to go in few minutes what do i do?
[13:03] <Rocky> kojm
[13:03] <AmokPaule> i mean over the console
[13:03] <iceroot> jo-erlend: ubuntu is only fixing bugs in a version (9.10) not adding new features
[13:03] <Threetimes> san123: come back later and ask again :D
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> AmokPaule:  you dident say that. :)  use mv, or rename command..
[13:03] <san123> Dr_Willis, i dont know whats samba sharing i want to share my files with my frend through LAN
[13:04] <san123> till how long will you be online 3times?
[13:04] <alebak> Hi, how to view the images(attachement) in the message in Evolution?
[13:04] <Threetimes> whois san123
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> san123:  if hes on a windows machine. use samba, or for some quick file transfers, use ssh on the server and winscp on the windows box
[13:04] <san123> I m
[13:04] <Docteh> san123: samba is same protocol as windows file shares
[13:04] <h4f1> how do I make grub 2 automaticly detect all my stuff ?
[13:04] <om26er> san123: i connected my bluetooth and a bluetooth applet was shown in the top panel. do you get it?
[13:04] <san123> DR_Willis, My friend is in Linux Mandriva
[13:04] <Threetimes> san123: what timezone are you in?
[13:04] <AmokPaule> ty :)
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> san123:  i just right click on a directory to share and use the  shareing menu item.. it should  install the needed samba stuff.
[13:05] <Delago> how do you upgrade a kernel? or install it?
[13:05] <om26er> Delago: why?
[13:05] <san123> ya bluetotth icon appeared but it shows bluetooth is disabled
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> san123:  then theres a dozen ways you can share things.. samba, nfs, or just use 'sshfs' thats proberly the fast and easy way.
[13:05] <iceroot> Delago: why need a kernel-upgrade?
[13:05] <san123> GMT 5.30+
[13:05] <Delago> iceroot: i deleted all my kernels
[13:05] <Cantcme> ActionParsnip: sorry to bother you again, but this game changes my desktop resolution when i quit it, is there a command that i can add to the script to change my resolution back?
[13:05] <krishna> Hi
[13:05] <Docteh> Delago: the aptitude program will let you reinstall packages
[13:05] <AmokPaule> So i cant rename a file that contains data?
[13:05] <om26er> Delago: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[13:05] <greenfuji> since updating to 9.10 one of my applications doesn't work. Running in terminal the error is "error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto++.so.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" I enabled pre-released updates and searched in synaptic and found libcrypto++8. Application still wont run. Any ideas?
[13:06] <san123> and how do i het those sshfs?
[13:06] <iceroot> Delago: then you dont have a running system
[13:06] <jrib> AmokPaule: sure you can... why not?
[13:06] <sebsebseb> greenfuji: Which app?
[13:06] <krishna> i download many themes from gnome look .. but  most are not installable... how do i install those themmese ..
[13:06] <Delago> iceroot: no. but i could chroot in, no?
[13:06] <om26er> Delago: sorry ignore that link. do this sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.31-14-generic
[13:06] <greenfuji> sebsebseb:customised version of amule
[13:06] <iceroot> Delago: hm
[13:07] <om26er> ohh
[13:07] <jo-erlend> iceroot, except for Stable Release Updates. I don't know enough about network-manager to know if this could qualify. It would certainly be a most welcome feature.
[13:07] <sebsebseb> greenfuji:  try and only get stuff from the Ubuntu repos,  if you get from else where problems can happen,  what you want to download with it by the way?
[13:07] <Docteh> Delago: yea chroot in and handle it there, if you were on 9.10 livecd i'd suggest just copying from the livecd
[13:07] <jo-erlend> this was anticipated for intrepid, so I think it should be added as quickly as possible.
[13:07] <iceroot> jo-erlend: of course, i am using my umts-stick without any problems (jaunty)
[13:07] <xukun> hi all. How can I use gzip to make image of vista partition in /dev/sda1 so I can restore later with the mbr?
[13:08] <Delago> Docteh: to be even nicer, i only have 9.04 live cd. I also have backups of all my sys. but without /boot
[13:08] <jo-erlend> iceberg, yes, I'm using my n95-2 without any problems when connecting using usb. But being able to connect using bluetooth instead, would be much more elegant.
[13:08] <greenfuji> sebsebseb:it just links into a private server. Is there anyway to have libcrypto7 back so it works?
[13:08] <sebsebseb> greenfuji: install it,  from the repo if it's there?   or  from source maybe
[13:08] <krishna> om26er, sorry , its irrelevant.. but did this delago lost his vmlinuz because someone gave him a command that he executed ??? :P the same happpened to me.. and other user called are_ee ..  the one that spreads malicious commands comes with name "selinux, haud" ..
[13:09] <Docteh> Delago: well you can take back the spot where /boot was right? chroot in and mount it, then try like grub-install
[13:09] <xukun> anybody please
[13:09] <greenfuji> sebsebseb:reinstall from source. I'll try that. Cheers
[13:09] <Markus-vn> sorry
[13:09] <Markus-vn> marcus@marcus-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[13:09] <Markus-vn> [sudo] password for marcus:
[13:09] <Markus-vn> Reading package lists... Done
[13:09] <Markus-vn> Building dependency tree
[13:09] <Markus-vn> Reading state information... Done
[13:09] <Markus-vn> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly is already the newest version.
[13:09] <FloodBot2> Markus-vn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:10] <Delago> linux-image-2.6.31-14-generic is already the newest version.
[13:10] <Beastmode> hey does anyone know how i can see the "cube" when i press ctrl+alt+down instead of the film effect? Thanks. I have cube enabled and can switch between workspaces however i do not see it
[13:10] <mikeCook> Hi everyone... is anyone able to help me with getting my ipod to work with ubunti 9.10? I'm a bit of a newbie so any help would be appreciated.
[13:10] <mikeCook> Thanks
[13:10] <ikt> Beastmode: I thought cube was ctrl+alt+left click
[13:10] <Markus-vn> cant install that pack :(
[13:11] <Docteh> Delago: aptitude reinstall linux-image(that whole version)
[13:11] <War> hey guys i was wondering if anyone can help me with something. I seem to have lost ownership of the filesystem in my mother in laws computer. it says /root is the owner. how can i take ownership again?
[13:11] <Beastmode> ikt: that doesnt do anything
[13:11] <Docteh> War: file system as in a fat32 or as in you did: chown -R root:root /
[13:12] <Markus-vn> cant play even wav
[13:12] <ikt> Beastmode: Do you have compiz settings manager installed?
[13:12] <Beastmode> ikt: yes
[13:12] <user101> My realplayer crashes since it cannot open 5.1 surround alsa , but works when older OSS is chosen.why is this happening in karmic?
[13:12] <KenBW2> is my flickery screen on first boot with a nvidia card a common fault?
[13:12] <Docteh> hey who pm'd me?
[13:12] <jrib> War: note that Docteh is asking you a question about what you did; you should not run that command now
[13:12] <Markus-vn> om26er: can u help me
[13:12] <Markus-vn> plz
[13:13] <MasterOfDisaster> user101: you could try running it with padsp
[13:13] <gigoguy> I notice that usb-creator isn't in the 9.10 image.  Where can I find it (or can I have any recommendations for a usb install howto)?
[13:13] <Beastmode> ikt: when i press ctrl+alt+down, i see a film effect instead of cube though
[13:13] <ikt> Beastmode: if you open it, head to Desktop Cube and it has Unfold, the button on the right might say super+e, you should be able to change that to ctrl+alt+down
[13:13] <sebsebseb> !permissions |  Docteh
[13:13] <Docteh> sebsebseb: why are you sending that my way
[13:13] <lukasz> Hello. I'm trying to install a driver for my webcam my compiling fails, can anyone be so kind to have a look and try to explain me what's wrong please?
[13:13] <Docteh> !asterisk | sebsebseb
[13:13] <sebsebseb> KenBW2: I guess not, but  you won't have full graphics card support, untill the propritary driver is installed
[13:13] <MasterOfDisaster> gigoguy: Have a look at unetbootin
[13:13] <Beastmode> ikt: let me take a look
[13:13] <user101> MasterOfDisaster : what is that
[13:13] <Docteh> awww
[13:14] <om26er> Markus-vn: if i can i will
[13:14] <gigoguy> will do, thanks
[13:14] <ubuntu_> hi all, I've installed ubuntu 9.10 but I'm experiencing problems with wireless connection. My card is an intel 3945 ABG, can find and list the essid but is unable to connect. any help? thanks
[13:14] <MasterOfDisaster> user101: pulseaudio's oss emulation app.
[13:14] <om26er> Markus-vn: plz reboot your system
[13:14] <KenBW2> sebsebseb: no, i coudln't start x until i installed the nvidia drivers from tty1 - would stump a new user
[13:14] <sebsebseb> Docteh: ,because you were just before the one I was meant to send it to
[13:14] <Docteh> ah
[13:14] <Beastmode> ikt: it is set at ctrl+alt+down already
[13:14] <sebsebseb> !permissions |  War
[13:14] <mikeCook> hello all... anyone able to help me with my problem...?
[13:14] <Markus-vn> om26er: i'm still cant play with Amarok
[13:15] <MasterOfDisaster> ubuntu_: problems with the encryption perhaps?
[13:15] <aguitel> ubuntu_, try with add new user
[13:15] <om26er> Markus-vn: plz plz try rhythmbox. totem, exaile
[13:15] <Markus-vn> om26er: available :D
[13:15] <ikt> Beastmode: I can't see the film effect in compiz settings, is it possible to disable the effect that seems to be coming up instead?
[13:15] <johe|work> hi there, does someone could tell me how to run an Fritz (AVM) ISDN PCI Card with karmic?
[13:15] <Markus-vn> om26er: totem still working,but i dont like to use totem to play music
[13:15] <ubuntu_> aguitel for sure problems with encription but using a usb wireless adapter it works..
[13:16] <om26er> Markus-vn: rhythmbox is great
[13:16] <sebsebseb> KenBW2: oh
[13:16] <Markus-vn> :D
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> gigoguy:  with grub2, you can now use it to boot ISO image files from a usb drive. :)
[13:16] <Beastmode> ikt: hmm, I dunno how i would disable the film effect. I dont see it either in ccsm, I think film effect is default in ubuntu
[13:17] <Docteh> why did grub2 go all out on modules?
[13:17] <user101> MasterOfDisaster : why can't i enable my sound card.
[13:17] <Starcraftmazter> does anyone have any positive or negative experiences with the proprietry linux drivers for the AMD 5800 series of gfx cards?
[13:17] <ikt> Beastmode: can you take a print screen of the effect?
[13:17] <sebsebseb> Starcraftmazter: ATI  causes quite a lot of people issues with Ubuntu
[13:17] <nidez> Hi ! I would like to know how to setup windows to open always in the same position and workspace, i'm using Karmik default desktop and Gnome with advanced graphical effects on it.
[13:17] <Beastmode> ikt: sure, how would i do that when i have ctrl+alt+down pressed?
[13:17] <Beastmode> ikt: sorry i am new to ubuntu
[13:17] <ikt> Beastmode: pnt scn key should still work
[13:18] <ikt> Beastmode: if you can strech your fingers :D
[13:18] <gigoguy> Dr_Willis:  was that in reference to unetbootin?
[13:18] <sebsebseb> !screenshot |  Beastmode
[13:18] <Starcraftmazter> alright, thank you sebsebseb
[13:18] <Soyo> So I have tried #launchpad already but everyone is asleep. I am trying to sign the code of conduct which says I need to register my OpenPGP key. When I attempt to register it says that key is already registered but it is not showing up in my account. I am not sure what to do about this...
[13:18] <sebsebseb> !ati |  Starcraftmazter
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> gigoguy:  unetbootin is another way.  I have usb-startup-disk tool here on my 9.10 install.. you could install it on the live cd i guess if you wanted.
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> gigoguy:  theres also scripts/guides at pendrivelinux.com to walk ya through other ways
[13:19] <Tartaros> so I understand there have been some changes in 9.10 about graphics drivers - so is it possible to have intel driver run in dualhead mode now?
[13:19] <Docteh> Soyo: is that your only launchpad acct?
[13:19] <sebsebseb> Starcraftmazter: oh you put AMD not ATI hmm
[13:19] <gigoguy> Dr_Willis: OK, thanks!
[13:19] <dale> having a problem with my fan running on a toshiba l300, running karmic
[13:19] <Docteh> Soyo: sounds like somebody is usuing your gpg key ;)
[13:19] <Starcraftmazter> sebsebseb: well ATI is now owned by AMD, same difference
[13:19] <Beastmode> ikt: where does it save the image after i press prntscrn?
[13:19] <sebsebseb> Tartaros: I am not sure, but  the  Intel graphics support is meant to be better in 9.10
[13:20] <dale> it is mostly silent, but once it starts it goes loud and never stops
[13:20] <Starcraftmazter> sebsebseb: im wondering whether the worse value of nvidia cards is worth the better drivers, buying a new card for a new pc
[13:20] <sebsebseb> Starcraftmazter: oh ok ty
[13:20] <Soyo> Oh yeah huh, I did not even think of that
[13:20] <ikt> Beastmode: should pop up with the ability to save the image
[13:20] <nidez> Hi ! I would like to know how to setup windows to open always in the same position and workspace, i'm using Karmik default desktop and Gnome with advanced graphical effects on it.
[13:20] <Beastmode> ikt: oh just realized it doesnt take it when i have ctrl+alt held also
[13:20] <sebsebseb> Starcraftmazter: yes most nivida cards work rather well,  a propritary driver is needed for full support though,  but usauly installing that from the repo, and no problem
[13:20] <Beastmode> ikt: yea it popped up when not pressing ctr+alt
[13:20] <sebsebseb> Starcraftmazter: Nivida is the best for Linux graphics card support!
[13:20] <ikt> Beastmode: ah damn
[13:20] <dale> sensors is giving me all ~30C
[13:21] <Delago> i don't have menu.lst.
[13:21] <Tartaros> well did anyone ever setup real dualhead in ubuntu? :) and I mean 2 separate desktops, not one big virtual desktop that's visible on 2 monitors
[13:21] <krishna> can i use alternate.iso of koala  on UNETbootin ???? will it make that usb drive install drive ???????
[13:21] <indus> Delago: grub has changed in 9.10
[13:21] <Beastmode> ikt: anything else i can do to get the cube ?
[13:21] <elky> halp! they changed gwibber and now I cannot find the text box! :(
[13:22] <dale> and I have tried acpi_osi=Linux
[13:22] <Delago> indus: no menu.lst?
[13:22] <ikt> Beastmode: this is very unusual
[13:22] <indus> krishna: yes can be used
[13:22] <ubuntu_> MasterOfDisaster do you have any idea on how to solve my wireless encription problem?
[13:22] <sebsebseb> !usb |  krishna
[13:22] <Starcraftmazter> mmm yes, i have an nvidia card now, its a shame AMD's linux support sucks
[13:22] <indus> Delago: yeah grub has changed a lot
[13:22] <dale> Delago: most of the same stuff is in /etc/default/grub
[13:22] <ktzkk> after having upgraded to 9.10 , my qq becomes unstable .  Having sent a few words , it quits .
[13:22] <sebsebseb> Starcraftmazter: indeed
[13:22] <indus> !GRUB2
[13:22] <_JamesCol> !nouveau
[13:22] <indus> Delago: yeah read the factoid on grub2
[13:22] <FlyOnTheWall> does anybody have any good resources on information about getting three screens to work in ubuntu?
[13:23] <sebsebseb> _JamesCol: oh didn't know about that
[13:23] <_JamesCol> anyone using nouveau?
[13:23] <ikt> Beastmode: sorry I can't help you more :( I do suggest making a post on ubuntuforums.org though, your problem does sound very solvable
[13:23] <nidez> Hi ! I would like to know how to setup windows to open always in the same position and workspace, i'm using Karmik default desktop and Gnome with advanced graphical effects on it.
[13:23] <indus> _JamesCol: stay away from it, its experimental
[13:23] <Beastmode> ikt: ok thanks alot for trying bro
[13:23] <indus> _JamesCol: its for developers only
[13:23] <_JamesCol> @indus: I would like to test it
[13:24] <dale> nidez: you can try system -> preferences -> Starup
[13:24] <dale> *startup
[13:24] <indus> _JamesCol: why would you want to test it?
[13:24] <_JamesCol> @indus: Testing is fun
[13:24] <indus> _JamesCol: ok then use it
[13:24] <krishna> indus, sebsebseb , ubottu (:P )  thankyou !
[13:25] <sebsebseb> left so  I coudn't do !thanks oh well
[13:25] <indus> _JamesCol: i dont test things which i cant spell
[13:25] <_JamesCol> So, has anyone successfully tried nouveau on Karmic?
[13:25] <meowpup> hi is there a way to change my preferred mail reader to firefox 3.5 webmail account
[13:25] <_JamesCol> indus: :)
[13:25] <indus> _JamesCol: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ also try #nouveau
[13:25] <_JamesCol> indus: thanks
[13:25] <indus> _JamesCol: dont expect much here , why would anyone try it
[13:25] <nidez> Hi ! I would like to know how to setup windows to open always in the same position and workspace, i'm using Karmik default desktop and Gnome with advanced graphical effects on it.   i dont talk about startup, but simply closing and opening the window during the same session.
[13:26] <jrib> nidez: that's up to the application
[13:26] <sebsebseb> !thanks  >  krishna
[13:26] <indus> _JamesCol: i dont think they can ever have 3d support
[13:26] <_JamesCol> indus: why?
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> nidez:  some windos managers have a feature to rember/lock/force locations but thats not in gnome or the default wm.
[13:26] <indus> _JamesCol: reverse engineer drivers for an industry which has new cards every six months? no way
[13:26] <sebsebseb> that was interesting, to test what happens, if try to get it to pm someone that isn't in the channel anymore
[13:27] <_JamesCol> indus: I think you underestimate people
[13:27] <nidez> Dr_Willis: is KDE doing it ?
[13:27] <sebsebseb> sort of interesting anyway
[13:27] <indus> _JamesCol: i do maybe but here is a status page http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> nidez:  no idea. I gave up on KDE4
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> nidez:  ask in #kubuntu
[13:28] <nidez> Dr_Willis ok thankyou.
[13:28] <ubuntu_> hi all, I've installed ubuntu 9.10 but I'm experiencing problems with wireless on intel 3945 ABG. can find and list the essid but is unable to connect. any help? thanks
[13:28] <indus> _JamesCol: its a hobby project i believe
[13:28] <sebsebseb> ubuntu_: This might be helpful
[13:28] <sebsebseb> !wireless | ubuntu_
[13:28] <indus> unless anyone here can counter me on that
 thanks a lot, i'm going to check now
[13:28] <|2448|Script> hey, guys! I've just installed ubuntu 9.10 on my HP 1120NR laptop and I can't seem to be able to access any wireless networks... can someone help me?
[13:29] <sebsebseb> !thanks |  ubuntu_
[13:29] <indus> _JamesCol: but that page is old, i think they have a better link somehwere else
[13:29] <Appiah> |2448|Script: is the wireless device detected?
[13:30] <littlegreen> Appiah yes... no search for wireless networks though.... (I'm |2448|Script )
[13:30] <_JamesCol> indus: "FeatureMatrix (last edited 2009-11-02..."
[13:30] <Appiah> oh
[13:30] <indus> _JamesCol: why exactly are you interested in this project?
[13:30] <qdb> hello. in ices log : [2009-11-03  08:50:32] EROR input-alsa/alsa_open_module Failed to open audio device hw:0,0: Device or resource busy [2009-11-03  08:50:32] EROR input/input_loop Couldn't initialise input module "alsa"
[13:30] <indus> just curious
[13:30] <sebsebseb> ubuntu_: thanks person who triggered the bot :)
[13:31] <_JamesCol> indus: low level stuff is interesting, and I'd like to have a free 3d nvidia driver
[13:31] <indus> _JamesCol: ok :)
[13:31] <littlegreen> Appiah any ideas?
[13:31] <om26er> !torrents
[13:32] <tertitten> !radeonhd
[13:32] <tertitten> !radeon
[13:32] <ismetteren> hey
[13:32] <littlegreen> Can anyone help me on wireless connections in Ubuntu 9.10 on a laptop with no LAN?
[13:32] <Appiah> littlegreen: nope thought you were affected by the same bug that I am
[13:33] <sebsebseb> littlegreen: this might be helpful
[13:33] <sebsebseb> !wireless |  littlegreen
[13:33] <littlegreen> Appiah I had a similar problem on another laptop with Ubuntu 8.04. Installing Ubuntu 8.10 solved it, but this is not the same machine and not the same version of the OS
[13:33] <ismetteren> i have just installed ubuntu, but audio isent working. Sounds play when i log in, but not else. I think it is because i need a driver, but shouldent ubuntu find drivers itself?
[13:34] <joaopinto> ismetteren, if the sound plays when you login, the driver is working
[13:34] <joaopinto> it is most likely a mixer/configuration issue
[13:34] <indus> ismetteren: how do you play sound? some audio?
[13:34] <Catalin> hello to all of you
[13:34] <joaopinto> ismetteren, open a terminal and run: alsamixer
[13:34] <indus> ismetteren: have you gone through audio properties
[13:34] <littlegreen> ismetteren try System > Administration > System testing
[13:35] <Catalin> i have a small problem...my mic is not recognize pt Ubuntu 9.10
[13:35] <Catalin> what should i do
[13:35] <indus> Catalin: which applicaiton are you using to test mic
[13:35] <Pastoolio> man i hate this new login screen ubuntu 9.10 is on
[13:35] <InforMed> Hi! I need help! I'm unable to mount my external usb hard drive on Karmic... When I plug it in, the hdd turns on, and dmesg will say this over and over  "unable to enumerate USB device on port 3"
[13:35] <Pastoolio> i want the pretty :/
[13:35] <nameless`> hi
[13:35] <Catalin> skype
[13:36] <joaopinto> Catalin, Have you checked the input device on Admin -> Sound settings ? from gnome, not skype
[13:36] <nameless`> i would like to have ubuntu installed on my mac with dual boot AND with parrallel, how can i do that ? do i have to partition my HD ?
[13:36] <indus> Catalin: in audio properties ( the volume icon in panel) unmute mic in sound imput
[13:36] <Catalin> yes, and there is no imput item
[13:37] <indus> Catalin: which ones do you have
[13:37] <skysong> hello guys, i ran through a bit of trouble.. i installed xubuntu and debian AFTER, which installed a new grub and i can't my ubuntu anymore.. can anyone help me fix that?
[13:37] <andresmh> I did sudo apt-get install gnome-shell but when I boot I do not have the option to use gnome-shell. Where would I select that I want to (temporarily) use Gnome Shell?
[13:37] <ismetteren> the only option i have under Output in audio settings is Dummy output
[13:37] <qdb> hello. in ices log : [2009-11-03  08:50:32] EROR input-alsa/alsa_open_module Failed to open audio device hw:0,0: Device or resource busy [2009-11-03  08:50:32] EROR input/input_loop Couldn't initialise input module "alsa"
[13:37] <Catalin> indus, no imput items are display there
[13:37] <nameless`> did anyone ever installed ubuntu on a macbook ?
[13:37] <indus> Catalin: input
[13:37] <qdb> how to switch line in to alsa
[13:38] <skysong> anyone please...?
[13:38] <erry> hai
[13:38] <erry> how do u check how much memory a program eats
[13:38] <indus> Catalin: there are some tabs in that window sound preferences
[13:38] <icehawk78> I currently have two of my folders set up as Samba shares, but recently created a new user for primary use locally, so my desktop wasn't cluttered with the junk from my web admin's home folder. However, I have an external NTFS hard drive, that appears to only allow the currently connected user to access it. Is there a way to either enable an NTFS drive to be accessed by more than one user, or allow Windows 7 to connect to the same computer via 2 differen
[13:38] <Catalin> may i show you a screen to see for yourself indus
[13:38] <sebsebseb> !grub  |  skysong
[13:38] <scribawf> minor glitch trying to update electricsheep screensaver but when I right click downloaded script file - nothing happens,  any suggestions Please?
[13:38] <sebsebseb> skysong: oh that's been changed
[13:38] <sebsebseb> !grub2 |  skysong
[13:38] <indus> erry: if the program has a belly ,it has eaten a lot :) anyways, use system>admin>system monitor
[13:39] <john-saint> hi all. need help! i cant seem to set up a webcam! tried looking on website but all links are either no good or dead!
[13:39] <erry> indus, no not like that
[13:39] <erry> indus, u see it finishes runing pretty fast
[13:39] <meowpup> hi i want it to use firefox for when you click on an email address
[13:39] <erry> running
[13:39] <sebsebseb> skysong: if you re install Grub/Grub2 tha will probably work
[13:39] <erry> like in 0m0.266s
[13:39] <meowpup> hi is there a way to change my preferred mail reader to firefox 3.5 webmail account.
[13:39] <indus> erry: aah
[13:39] <skysong> yeah sebsebseb however, it did overwrite everything:/
[13:39] <erry> :p
[13:39] <skysong> i reinstalled grub and for some reason it didn't detect:/
[13:39] <Tartaros> erry: so whats the problem...?
[13:39] <erry> i dont think i can check system monitor in 226 ms xD
[13:39] <indus> erry: why cant you keep the program running?
[13:39] <sebsebseb> skysong: Karmic?
[13:39] <erry> indus, its not supposed to
[13:39] <indus> erry: a fast eater :)
[13:39] <erry> indus, its for a competition
[13:39] <skysong> yep sebsebseb and debian lenny afterwards
[13:40] <erry> indus, its sposed to be fast and not eat a lot of memory
[13:40] <sebsebseb> skysong: Was that a clean install of Karmic or an upgrade from 9.04 by the way?
[13:40] <indus> erry: sorry no idea about this, you wrote this program?
[13:40] <erry> indus, yes -ducks-
[13:40] <indus> erry: lol
[13:40] <erry> i can see how much time it takes using 'time'
[13:40] <john-saint> i got the same! upgraded from 9.04 to 9-10 and mines slow too
[13:40] <erry> anything similar for memory ussage?
[13:40] <indus> erry: ok i think keep system monitor running with window always on top, then run this and see
[13:41] <sebsebseb> skysong: Grub/Grub2  can be a right pain to mess around with,   if you re install Ubuntu,  Grub2 will also be re installed
[13:41] <erry> I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and when i plug anything it doesnt do anything btw
[13:41] <erry> :p
[13:41] <erry> plug any usb*
[13:41] <indus> erry: gkrellm keeps small history i think
[13:41] <skysong> yeah but i already configured ubuntu to my tastes.. installing again will be painful to me:(
[13:41] <indus> erry: install and see
[13:41] <sebsebseb> erry: Have a look at USB stuff  in the release notes I guess
[13:41] <zoug> any help on this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1312627
[13:41] <sebsebseb> !notes | erry
[13:41] <indus> Catalin: yeah screenshot pelase
[13:41] <erry> -_-
[13:42] <john-saint> need help with webcam!!!!
[13:42] <sebsebseb> !details |  john-saint
[13:42] <erry> bison webcam in MSI Wind netbook causes USB errors if not disabled
[13:42] <sebsebseb> john-saint: cheese can configure them
[13:42] <erry> that has nothing to doo with my prob
[13:42] <erry> ;s
[13:42] <sebsebseb> !webcam |  john-saint
[13:42] <indus> erry: are you talking about the program or this is a new question
[13:42] <erry> indus a new one
[13:42] <erry> :)
[13:42] <damo> hiiii all
[13:42] <albasheers> 10 sec audio delay  when i start playing any audio in karmic koala
[13:43] <littlegreen> sebsebseb I'm really greatful for the information that you have provided me with, but I'm not using Atheros WiFi Card... I'm with a Marvell Technology Group WLAN Card, that has broadcast=yes, and a properly working(according to Ubuntu9.10) driver. Problem is it doesn't find or connects to any networks....
[13:43] <K3rl0u4rn> seb2: dpkg --configure -a does not do anything better
[13:43] <indus> erry: damn
[13:43] <sebsebseb> littlegreen: Ok well I can't help you
[13:43] <K3rl0u4rn> seb2: in fact, rsyslog is not running right now and can't be restarted with service rsyslog start
[13:43] <zoug> can anyone tell me how to switch on wireless when hardware switch is not present?
[13:44] <quizme> how do i find out the ip address of a name server ?  ns1.linode.com
[13:44] <jrib> quizme: host ns1.linode.com
[13:44] <erry> Lo
[13:44] <K3rl0u4rn> seb2: wait, it can be started, it was actually stoped, this is why restart did not work, now its running
[13:44] <erry> :P*
[13:44]  * erry is the WORST possible person you can be trying to help
[13:44] <indus> erry: so usb wont work you say?
[13:44] <quizme> jrib: thank you
[13:44] <indus> erry: bad usb?
[13:44] <liar_> is there a way to change the ctrl+alt+fn shortcuts?
[13:44] <sebsebseb> erry: Probably not :)
[13:45] <erry> indus: usb works as long as i plug it BEFORE i boot
[13:45] <sebsebseb> erry: there will be  much more worse people to try and help,  ones that start using offensive language as well
[13:45] <erry> if i plug a new usb while ubuntu is running nothing happens
[13:45] <K3rl0u4rn> seb2: dpkg says "/etc/init.d/rsyslog: 46: s: not found"
[13:45] <indus> erry: ok when you plug it in, check dmesg  | tail
[13:45] <erry> sebsebseb, i do that SOME times -blushes-
[13:45] <littlegreen> Could anyone solve me a WiFi problem on Ubuntu9.10 and a Marvell TechGroup WiFi Card?
[13:45] <War> trying to change ownership of filesystem to user terry. what commands do i use in terminal to do this? ive been looking for a couple days now and no luck
[13:45] <indus> sebsebseb: f@Y$(*U$R#UIre[ you :)
[13:45] <indus> like that one
[13:46] <sebsebseb> indus: What?
[13:46] <erry> hm
[13:46] <erry> it worked this time
[13:46] <indus> erry: can i see the output of dmesg
[13:46] <remoteCTRL> gawd this upstart thing is a complete mess-.-
[13:46] <erry> o.o
[13:46] <erry> it usually doesnt
[13:46] <FloodBot3> erry: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:46] <indus> erry: hmm
[13:46] <littlegreen> Can anyone tell me what is "Ubuntu Netbook Remix" ?
[13:46] <jpds> remoteCTRL: Better than the old ancient init.d scripts.
[13:46] <erry> indus, it usually brings error -108
[13:46] <indus> erry: this is a bad usb port also sometimes
[13:46] <erry> in kern.log
[13:46] <sebsebseb> !unr |  littlegreen
[13:46] <zoug> can anyone tell me how to switch on wireless when hardware switch is not present?
[13:46] <InforMed> I need help please!  I I'm unable to mount my external usb hard drive on Karmic... When I plug it in, the hdd turns on, and dmesg will say this over and over  "unable to enumerate USB device on port 3"
[13:46] <K3rl0u4rn> seb2: that script is corrupted, ending with a "s" line
[13:46] <K3rl0u4rn> crap !
[13:46] <indus> erry: cheap cabinet with front usb ports, stay away from it, will damage the drive
[13:46] <remoteCTRL> jpds if it did work at all i might aggree to that
[13:46] <erry> indus, am on a lappy
[13:46] <K3rl0u4rn> seb2: removing this lines gets dpkg to do its work
[13:47] <K3rl0u4rn> seb2: should I post a bug report ?
[13:47] <remoteCTRL> jpds: my gdm doesnt start anymore
[13:47] <jpds> remoteCTRL: Works fine here.
[13:47] <indus> erry: ok if it happens again, check dmesg | tail
[13:47] <War>  trying to change ownership of filesystem to user terry. what commands do i use in terminal to do this? ive been looking for a couple days now and no luck
[13:47] <indus> i gtg now
[13:47] <indus> bye
[13:47] <jrib> War: did you ever answer Docteh's question from before?
[13:47] <jrib> !who | War
[13:47] <remoteCTRL> jpds: works fine on our fujitsu siemens workstations and does not work at all on hewlett packard machines
[13:48] <War> !jrib yeah i did but he never responded
[13:48] <jrib> War: okay, so tell me: what did you do to change ownership?  And what file are we talking about exactly?
[13:49] <erry> indus, when it does happen i get error -108
[13:49] <erry> or something like that
[13:49] <Tartaros> could someone briefly tell me whats the "SCIM" thing and what does it have to do with keyboard?
[13:49] <erry> (btw wireless just kicked me off -_-(
[13:49] <sebsebseb> erry: indus said he had to go
[13:49] <Tartaros> because I somehow have the feeling that there are now 2 places to set keyboard layout
[13:49] <erry> oh
[13:49] <erry> sorry
[13:49] <erry> i didnt see it
[13:49] <sebsebseb> erry: yes that's what I thought hence saying
[13:49] <erry> sebsebseb, wireless booted me off
[13:50] <erry> but i should be glad
[13:50] <erry> it worked for TWO WHOLE DAYS
[13:50] <FoolsRun> Hi, I have an Acer Aspire One netbook that has been upgraded to new versions of Ubuntu twice since I first installed. I've found that it cannot connect to some wifi networks --it seems to be the networks that are marked as "abg". My home network is g-only and it works fine. I'm wondering if there's a way to remove the wifi driver and have it re-detect, or reinstall. Back when I first installed Ubuntu I compiled the driver
[13:50] <FoolsRun>  manually since that was the only way to make it work.
[13:50] <Docteh> Tartaros: console and X or did you mean something else?
[13:50] <erry> thats a great improvement ;p
[13:50] <iceroot> i want to check of a specific object is mounted (server: foobar with cifs) how can i check if foobar is mounted at /media/nas/backup  with a command
[13:50] <sebsebseb> erry: wireless generally sucks
[13:50] <War> jrib, well its a new install, i didnt do anything to change the ownership in the first place. thats how it was by default, i need to get the filesystem unlocked because im trying to install a wireless usb adapter
[13:50] <erry> sebsebseb, ive noticed
[13:50] <Docteh> I love resetting my AP occasionally
[13:50] <jrib> iceroot: well the « mount » command will list what is mounted
[13:50] <jrib> War: please also answer my second question
[13:51] <sebsebseb> !love > Docteh
[13:51] <Docteh> !love
[13:51] <iceroot> jrib: i dont want to you mount with grep
[13:51] <kryl> hi
[13:51] <jrib> iceroot: then what do you want...
[13:51] <datta> can anyone please explain why my flash might not be working properly
[13:51] <iceroot> jrib: s/you/use/
[13:51] <War> jrib: well its the whole filesystem i need to get to , in particular usr/src folder and another folder in /lib
[13:51] <iceroot> jrib: mount -check foobar   somethink like that
[13:51] <datta> because the problem is that the keyboard buttons don't work but the mouse does
[13:51] <Tartaros> Docteh: I mean "main menu - system - preferences - Keyboard" and "main menu - system - preferences - SCIM input method setup". And there's also "main menu - system - preferences - IBus"
[13:52] <jrib> datta: well we can start taking guesses or you can just tell us what you did and what you mean by "not working properly"
[13:52] <dale> having a problem with the fan on ubuntu 9.10, once it starts it doesnt stop, toshiba l300, I have tried acpi_osi=Linux
[13:52] <datta> for example i went to stickcricket.com to play the game and the mouse does not work
[13:52] <erry> alright ty anyway
[13:52] <jrib> iceroot: well you have to program then...
[13:52] <erry> byee :3
[13:52] <zoug> can anyone tell me how to switch on wireless when hardware switch is not present?
[13:52] <kryl> is it possible to use Xen with ubuntu 9.10 ? I have the following error : grep: /proc/xen/capabilities: no such file or directory
[13:52] <jrib> War: great.  Now I understand what you want to do.  Have you read the wifi documentation?  You should not be installing wifi drivers like that.
[13:52] <datta> i am using firefox 3 in ubuntu 9.04. please tell me what might be wrong with this because i cannot play games that invoulve the keyboard
[13:53] <petsounds> !dependencies
[13:53] <iceroot> jrib: i cant imaging there is no such option
[13:53] <DanielC> Hello. Where can I ask questions about launchpad? I can't any help on the website.
[13:53] <sebsebseb> !launchpad |  DanielC
[13:53] <jrib> iceroot: check « man mount » for yourself. There's no such option because it's easy enough to just use grep
[13:53] <sebsebseb> DanielC: ok well that's not useful then,  wanted to see what that one was
[13:53] <Docteh> kryl: dig around for a kernel package that ends in -xen, I'm not actually sure its got good xen support. if anything you can just roll your own kernel with xen support
[13:53] <DanielC> sebsebseb: I know what the launchapd website is :-)
[13:54] <War> jrib: i have it was supposed to be for windows, checked in ubuntu website forums and read that there is a driver there for my usb adapter.
[13:54] <jrib> datta: I saw someone with that same complaint earlier.  You may want to check bugs.ubuntu.com for an existing bug report to see if any fixes exist in the comments
[13:54] <jrib> !wifi > War
[13:54] <damo> i got a question for u all please
[13:54] <kryl> Docteh, ok thx u ...
[13:54] <iceroot> jrib: but i am using python with sub-process
[13:54] <jrib> War: forum posts are often outdated.  Check the wifi documentation ubottu sent you to
[13:54] <jrib> iceroot: so?
[13:54] <damo> does anyone know where i can download themes for ubuntu
[13:54] <DanielC> sebsebseb: Oh, goody, there is a #launchpad channel. :-)
[13:54] <iceroot> jrib: and that is not very nice to use subprocess, mount, grep and a returnvalue to be checked
[13:55] <sebsebseb> DanielC: Don't think I have  used that factoid before,   and  that does not suprise me that there is a channel
[13:55] <jrib> iceroot: don't see why but feel free to just use suprocess to get a list of mounts and python to parse that string afterwards
[13:55] <Phurl> hi all, anyone know about this grub issue?
[13:55] <Docteh> damo: gnome has a site for themes, gtk2 and possibly metacity is what you'll be looking for
[13:55] <Docteh> !ask > Phurl
[13:55] <Phurl> GRUB _ is all the guys sees on booting karmic
[13:55] <War> jrib: well thanks ill look in there see if i can find the answer
[13:55] <damo> can u get me the link please
[13:55] <iceroot> jrib: yeah i think i dont have another chance
[13:55] <sebsebseb> !details |  Phurl
[13:55] <Docteh> oh you were more specific, nevermind the bot-thingy
[13:56] <jrib> War: if you can't find information there, come back and share your forum link and exact usb device with the channel
[13:56] <sebsebseb> Phurl: Grub2 is also meant to be there when Karmic is about to be booted,  or  another OS that is also installed on that computer
[13:56] <Phurl> "GRUB _" is all the guys sees on booting karmic grub after installing karmic. is this a common problem? grub also worksd
[13:56] <Phurl> the old grub worked on 9.4
[13:56] <sebsebseb> Phurl: Is that a clean install of Karmic or an upgrade from 9.04?
[13:56] <Phurl> and on 9.10 the new grub fails
[13:56] <Phurl> upgrade
[13:57] <QaDeS> hiyas. i just installed 8.04 on a dell core2 ps, and it can't really talk to the hard disk and gives me "ata1.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5)". already tried "noapic acpi=off" on the kernel command line without success. what else can i check?
[13:57] <sebsebseb> Phurl: ok  well you could have told it to use the old Grub
[13:57] <damo> where do i get the themes from ?
[13:57] <sebsebseb> Phurl: I think?
[13:57] <Docteh> Phurl: the upgrades not being perfect is why its not automatic
[13:57] <Phurl> yes sebsebseb well this is a n00b and in a different counrty
[13:57] <Phurl> what do i tell him now? go back to 9.4
[13:57] <Phurl> ?
[13:57] <sebsebseb> Phurl: Did it ask which to use?  Also quite a lot of people have had issues after upgrading 9.04  to 9.10 really 9.10 should be clean installed anyway,  Grub2 by default  and Ext4
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> Phurl:  or try a clean install of 9.10
[13:57] <olvap> i get this errro:the Bouml_id environment variable is not or wrong defined. How do i change the environment variables?
[13:58] <Phurl> ok
[13:58] <sebsebseb> Phurl: md5suming the ISO for  Ubuntu before burning contents to CD  is also a good idea
[13:58] <sebsebseb> !md5sum
[13:58] <Phurl> ok
[13:58] <Phurl> thanks
[13:58] <Pixie79_> using private cloud, is there a way to have snapshots be save to a different device to the volume
[13:59] <sebsebseb> Phurl: np
[13:59] <olvap> i get this errro:the Bouml_id environment variable is not or wrong defined. How do i change the environment variables?
[13:59] <Phurl> well he said he did a clean install
[13:59] <Tartaros> I had no problem upgrading from 9.04 btw :D
[13:59] <sebsebseb> Tartaros: Well lucky you I guess then!
[13:59] <sebsebseb> Tartaros: altough I expect most people aren't going to get issues
[13:59] <sebsebseb> Tartaros: that do the upgrade
[13:59] <philh> what commonly fails from upgrades?
[14:00] <TsukeHiki> hi! I am getting "error while loading shared libraries: libpython2.5.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" even though the library is in /usr/lib and ive run ldconfig. does anybody have an idea what the problem might be? (after an upgrade to 9.10 and reinstalling python2.5)
[14:00] <sebsebseb> philh: stick around here for long enough,  or  find the relivant bits in recant logs, and you will know
[14:00] <woble> philh, ive seen many sound / wifi issues with the Jaunty -> Karmic upgrade
[14:00] <philh> so just the usual?
[14:00] <jrib> iceroot: http://docs.python.org/library/os.path.html os.path.ismount probably does what you want
[14:00] <woble> philh, Just do a fresh install, dont upgrade
[14:00] <sebsebseb> philh: boot up issues as well it seems
[14:00] <Tartaros> anyway, can someone explain to me whats the "ibus" and what's the "SCIM" thing?
[14:01] <woble> sebsebseb, thats the all new Grub2.. it wont install Grub2 on upgrade but many people try afterwards
[14:01] <hoosein> hajizadehhoosein@yahoo.com
[14:01] <edgy> Hi, how can I use rsync to download karmic kubuntu dvd? any link?
[14:01] <hoosein> سلام
[14:01] <sebsebseb> woble: I think some maybe get it on the upgrade
[14:01] <zoug> can anyone tell me how to switch on wireless when hardware switch is not present?
[14:01] <zoug> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1312627
[14:02] <woble> sebsebseb, you only get Grub2 on fres install
[14:02] <woble> sebsebseb, and its actually 1.97b3
[14:02] <dooglus> what's a good way to convert a .m4a file to .mp3?
[14:02] <iceroot> jrib: ph taht sound very nice, i hope its supporting cifs :) i will have a look, thx
[14:02] <sebsebseb> woble: 9.04 with Ext4 gets Grub 2 as well I think well a version of it
[14:03] <sebsebseb> !mp3 |  dooglus
[14:03] <necweston> is anyone an nvidia xorg.conf wizard here? Trying to get three monitors over two video cards to work as one desktop, but cannot
[14:03] <sebsebseb> dooglus: Free formats :)
[14:03] <Phurl> so i am going to have him go back to 9.4
[14:03] <liar_> where do i change the keyboard shortcuts of the virtual terminals?
[14:03] <dooglus> sebsebseb: my mp3 player plays mp3s
[14:03] <Xubuntus> Hi, people! Is there any risk in watching at some files in a W2008Server-HD from within Xubuntu 9.10?
[14:03] <Phurl> cause that works
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> Xubuntus:  risk?  why would there be risk in watching video files?
[14:03] <woble> Phurl, does he use more than 1 HD or dual boot with WIndows?
[14:04] <TheSaint> I need help with postgres installation on Ubuntu 9.04 server. My requirement is that postgres should be installed in /home/postgres directory.
[14:04] <mrwoody> hi *. does anyone know why after upgradign to 9.10, any video is weird (like greenish or negative)... I get the problem in two different pc
[14:04] <Phurl> woble, he has windows dual boot
[14:04] <TheSaint> How do I do that?
[14:04] <Balsaq> after i partition how do i install linux in the same computer as ubuntu?
[14:04] <Xubuntus> Dr_Willis, Not watching videofiles. Watching, looking, copying etc.
[14:04] <dooglus> Dr_Willis: he's worried his mum will walk in on him
[14:04] <woble> Phurl, make sure Grub has the right entry's probably a messed up menu.lst file
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> Xubuntus:  files are files.. what matters is in them.. i guess..
[14:04] <Barbapapa> @TheSaint: install from sources
[14:04] <jrib> iceroot: well seems to just use stat not following symlinks to check if the device differs from its parent
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> Xubuntus:  is there somthing specirfic you are worried about?
[14:04] <Barbapapa> and specify the path
[14:04] <Phurl> http://pastebin.com/d4bb62be1 it is a grub.cfg
[14:05] <TheSaint> Thanks Barbapapa. I thought that would be the only way.
[14:05] <woble> Phurl, it found Jaunty?
[14:05] <Tartaros> Balsaq: ubuntu IS linux, your question is weird
[14:05] <TheSaint> still good to get a confirmation from the experts.
[14:05] <Xubuntus> Dr_Willis, Yepp. Sqrewing up that harddrives content and functionality until I can boot it.
[14:05] <Phurl> woble, good question
[14:05] <iceroot> jrib: with "normal" mount-points (ext3), its working fine
[14:05] <Barbapapa> no matter :)
[14:05] <Phurl> ahh
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> Xubuntus:  if you have write access to the device you could delete stuff...   it alwyas pays to be carefull
[14:06] <TheSaint> lot of negative press on Ubuntu 9.10 upgrade.
[14:06] <Balsaq> Tartaros: iwant to install linux mint beside ubuntu
[14:06] <TheSaint> Is it really bad? I am holding back my upgrade.
[14:06] <woble> TheSaint, dont upgrade, fresh install..
[14:06] <Xubuntus> How do actually LOOK at the disk? Where are the disks? Another filemanager?! (I got Thunar at the moment. Xubuntu 9.10)
[14:07] <sebsebseb> TheSaint:  yes  what woble said
[14:07] <sebsebseb> I guess
[14:07] <TheSaint> woble: fresh installs are smooth?
[14:07] <Barbapapa> @woble 'dont upgrade' ?? how about servers in production environment?
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> Xubuntus:  if you are worried about changeing things Mount it 'read only'
[14:07] <Tartaros> Balsaq: you want two different linux flavors beside themselves? are you sure that's what you really want?
[14:07] <Barbapapa> would you like to come to do a fresh install?? ;-)
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> Xubuntus:  just reading files dont change things
[14:07] <sebsebseb> Barbapapa: those shoudn't be using  9.10 or 9.04 or 8.10  anyway, they should be using 8.04.3
[14:07] <woble> Barbapapa, issues seem to concentrate around Gnome, Sound and Grub <-- only grub would be bad in a production environment..
[14:07] <sebsebseb> Barbapapa: LTS only yes
[14:07] <TheSaint> Barbapapa: I think he wants them to hold on till there is a fix for some of these issues.
[14:07] <Xubuntus> Dr_Willis, yeah, that's true. But I don't want anything to suddenly change the bootability/readability of the drive.
[14:07] <sebsebseb> !lts |  Barbapapa
[14:07] <Balsaq> Tartaros...yes i use this particular computer to experiment learn
[14:07] <tj83__> anyone have a work around for vmware-server and karmic client mouse/key problems?
[14:08] <woble> Barbapapa, but I wouldnt recommend running non LTS versions on production anyways
[14:08] <iceroot> jrib: working perfect, thanks for the info
[14:08] <jrib> iceroot: no problem
[14:08] <Barbapapa> are you sure?
[14:08] <sebsebseb> Barbapapa: I think 8.04.3   .3 yeah I think is the latest point release, well whatever
[14:08] <zoug> anyone know how to switch on wireless when hardware switch is absent, on a laptop?
[14:08] <Balsaq> Tartarosi dont care id they are similar...i want to learn to install 2 on one computer regardless
[14:08] <philh> zoug, anything in the bios config for it?
[14:09] <zoug> philh:no
[14:09] <woble> Barbapapa, why would you take the risk on something that *must* stay up?
[14:09] <aldin> hi, how can i add new user on ubuntu 9.10 so his home dir becomes crypted? (like in first instalation)
[14:09] <zoug> philh:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1312627
[14:09] <nztal> is there a page i can look at, to find supported pci wireless n cards ?
[14:09] <sebsebseb> Barbapapa: and an LTS can be upgraded to another LTS, without having to go through the other releases first,  where as other installs  you have to go through releases to get later ones
[14:09] <zoug> i installed 9.10 for my dad, turns out to be a headache, more than windows. :(
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> !hardware
[14:09] <TheSaint> any idea when the fixes are going to come out which will make the upgrade from 9.04 less troublesome?
[14:10] <sebsebseb> zoug: Why?
[14:10] <nztal> thanks
[14:10] <iceroot> jrib: but i bet, that function is not using mount | grep  :)
[14:10] <jrib> iceroot: well seems to just use stat not following symlinks to check if the device differs from its parent
[14:10] <zoug> wireless not working, weird kernel panic error..
[14:10] <obiwan_> how can i do this please? i need a regexp to bash translator program, something like this translator [1-5] | mkdir which results in mkdir 1 2 3 4 5
[14:10] <woble> TheSaint, no .. someone has to make them first
[14:10] <sebsebseb> zoug: Is it a clean install of 9.10 as well?
[14:10] <necweston> tj83__: that was a problem in 9.04, sorry I'm not more helpful but if you google around there is a fix
[14:10] <zoug> jaunty i guess was much more stable
[14:10] <zoug> yeah clean
[14:10] <sebsebseb> zoug: well you can put 9.04 back on
[14:11] <woble> zoug, i have to disagree on thatone..
[14:11] <zoug> i thought 9.10 was hot.
[14:11] <tj83__> necweston, searching now, might have found, 9.04 works fine actually.
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> I have had no issues with 9.10 on my 3 machines. :) it is hot.
[14:11] <sebsebseb> zoug: with Ubuntu it is not  about what is the latest, it's about what is still supported, also newer is not always better!
[14:11] <TheSaint> 9.04 works fine for me.
[14:12] <philh> ubuntu is never stable, it's always relatively bleeding edge for five minutes after release
[14:12] <zoug> yeah, right. but sometimes it just doesnt work, and that turns me down
[14:12] <TheSaint> except for faster boot time, I am not sure if there is anything else that I need to look forward to in 9.10
[14:12] <sebsebseb> TheSaint: and for me,  but  i'll clean install Karmic on here,  I been testing since alpha 4.   the other uhmm not sure if it's going 9.10 yet or not,  untill I have tried the final.
[14:12] <doc_brown> sorry if this is in the wrong chan, but i can't get picasa to start
[14:12] <zoug> i myself use 9.10 and its great so far. but for some hardware it isnt..
[14:12] <woble> doc_brown, any errors?
[14:12] <TheSaint> The other new features don't seem to be very important to me.
[14:12] <doc_brown> woble, no, just nothing happens
[14:12] <damo> got a little question for all
[14:12] <sebsebseb> philh: Ubuntu's repos are based on Debian testing
[14:12] <Amigadude> just upgraded netbook remix 9.04 to 9.10, touchpad & wifi drivers are dead in the water & desktop is slow as hell
[14:12] <necweston> can anyone help troubleshoot 3 monitors over two nvidia cards?
[14:12] <woble> doc_brown, how do you start picasa?
[14:13] <niek_> how can I install the closed source ati drivers on 9.10?
[14:13] <damo> is there any program to make a exe run in ubuntu ?
[14:13] <doc_brown> woble, i have 9.10 as a guest in a vbox
[14:13] <john-saint> hi all. i was told to use cheese to get my webcam working but still nothing. i was told my cam is a sn9c102. can anyone help??
[14:13] <sebsebseb> philh: If you want stability I guess  Ubuntu LTS,  but that can get issues to sometimes,   or  Debian Stable
[14:13] <TheSaint> did 9.10 get released in a bit of a hurry to compete with Win 7?
[14:13] <doc_brown> woble, let me try it in terminal
[14:13] <sebsebseb> TheSaint: no
[14:13] <DJones> !wine | damo
[14:13] <Tartaros> Balsaq: well obviously you're not having any problem with ubuntu, which is what this channel is about...
[14:13] <sebsebseb> TheSaint: not at all
[14:13] <Taejo> damo: wine for windows exes, dosbox for dos
[14:13] <damo> oooo
[14:13] <damo> thanks
[14:13] <zer0c00l> Is there any version/flavour of ubuntu so that i can use it in a pc with 128mb ram and 845mhz processor?
[14:13] <woble> doc_brown, thats a good idea, maybe debug mod? and does it work in a vbox?
[14:13] <philh> sebsebseb, yep, if you want stability you need to be stuck in a world of ancient releases
[14:13] <damo> im trying to run camfrog video chat
[14:13] <woble> zer0c00l, planning to go with a GUI?
[14:14] <doc_brown> !paste
[14:14] <philh> ok, while i'm here, is there a simple way to disable pulse without removing it completely, in 9.04?
[14:14] <Pixie79_> where is the best place to ask about ubuntu private cloud issues ?
[14:14] <zer0c00l> woble: yes
[14:14] <sebsebseb> TheSaint: a new version of Ubuntu comes out in  April and October  (except for  2006, when  the April version got delayed to June, but that was also the first Long Term Support release)
[14:14] <mrwoody> hi *. does anyone know why after upgradign to 9.10, any video is weird (like greenish or negative)... I get the problem in two different pc and all the softwares (mplayer, vlc, xine,...)
[14:14] <zer0c00l> woble: Its for newbies
[14:14] <TheSaint> sebsebseb: Thanks. Maybe it was just a coincidence that this happened immediately after Win7 went public
[14:14] <sebsebseb> TheSaint: not a coincidence at all,  it was planned years ago
[14:15] <sebsebseb> TheSaint: to have a release at the end of October 2009
[14:15] <doc_brown> woble, http://paste.ubuntu.com/308529/
[14:15] <woble> zer0c00l, hmmz, its going to be tough with just 128mb ram, but I have a box with gnome on a 196mb ram (weird number i know)
[14:15] <niek_> can somebody please tell me how to install the prop ati drivers?
[14:15] <TheSaint> sebsebseb: Thanks. Good to know that.
[14:15] <doc_brown> woble, we have problems... i dont have any "registry"
[14:15] <qdb> hello. in ices log : [2009-11-03  08:50:32] EROR input-alsa/alsa_open_module Failed to open audio device hw:0,0: Device or resource busy [2009-11-03  08:50:32] EROR input/input_loop Couldn't initialise input module "alsa" .   how to switch line in to alsa?
[14:15] <zoug> does anyone know what SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132 means?
[14:15] <craZZter> anybody else having problems with getting ~/.xsession run when loggin in - after upgrade to 9.10?
[14:15] <qdb> 9.04
[14:15] <doc_brown> !paste |  qdb
[14:15] <john-saint> cant get webcam to work, even with cheese. anyone help?
[14:16] <sebsebseb> TheSaint: propritary software such as Windows come out with a new version every three years or so,   Ubuntu April and October, the other popular distros  get  one or two releases a year as well
[14:16]  * doc_brown has a "registry" error
[14:16]  * doc_brown has no registry
[14:16] <woble> doc_brown, are you trying to run picasa in a windows vbox?
[14:16] <TheSaint> sebsebseb: That is why I like Ubuntu. I switched to Ubuntu from version 7
[14:16] <doc_brown> win7 host, 9.10 guest
[14:16] <woble> doc_brown, since there is a picasa version for linux (ubuntu)
[14:16] <sebsebseb> TheSaint: Mac OS X  as well in my example.   You went from Windows 7 (Vista version 2) to Ubuntu?
[14:16] <thetom88> hi everyone!
[14:17] <doc_brown> woble, i installed the linux version
[14:17] <TheSaint> no.. Fedora to ubuntu
[14:17] <Taejo> lspci | grep -i audio gives 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03), but Preferences > Sound > Hardware doesn't list any devices. Sound was working this morning in Jaunty, now nothing in Karmic. How do I fix this?
[14:17] <TheSaint> I found Fedora 8 to be slow.
[14:17] <mrwoody> hi *. does anyone know why after upgradign to 9.10, any video is weird (like greenish or negative)... I get the problem in two different pc and all the softwares (mplayer, vlc, xine,...)
[14:17] <woble> doc_brown, why would you run it inside a vbox inside win 7?
[14:17] <doc_brown> woble, it shows up in applications > graphics > picasa
[14:17] <philh> woble, picassa is a wine or winelib app, a registry issue isn't that surprising
[14:17] <GutZuWiSSeN> i want to know the X biggest files recursiv in a directory ... (with shell) any ideas? :)
[14:17] <doc_brown> woble, to keep you busy helping me of course
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[14:17] <sebsebseb> TheSaint: hopefuly 10.04 will be able to compete a  bit more properly against Windows 7, thing is, becasue of  lack of commercial software and hardware vender support,   Ubuntu and other Linux distros can't do this fully yet.
[14:18] <TheSaint> sebsebseb: when is 10.04 going to be out?
[14:18] <doc_brown> lol
[14:18] <dro> 6 months? lol
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> TheSaint: secrets in the version number
[14:18]  * woble still has to install his free copy of win7 professional.. I just think it is going to ruin my Grub setup though
[14:18] <sebsebseb> !10.04 | TheSaint
[14:18] <doc_brown> 04 = april
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> TheSaint: 20 (10)  in 4th month, April
[14:18] <john-saint> got a problem with webcam, even with cheese. anyone help??
[14:18] <dro> woble: I think vista/7 have to be on the first partition
[14:19] <thetom88> i'm trying to mount a partition that i saved with clonezilla, following this sort of guide:http://www.mail-archive.com/clonezilla-live@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00260.html but i can't get the last command working...
[14:19] <edgy> Hi, how can I use rsync to download karmic kubuntu dvd? any link?
[14:19] <TheSaint> sebsebseb: By that time Windows 7 would be on SP1 at least.
[14:19] <woble> dro, i have Vista on the 1st atm
[14:19] <doc_brown> is there a google chan?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> TheSaint: just like 9.10 was released in 200(9) in the 10th month (october)
[14:19] <woble> it it will probably load the default win7 bootloader
[14:19] <woble> and override grub
[14:19] <tarzeau> GutZuWiSSeN: find -exec ls -s {} \; |sort -n
[14:19] <Inferus> hi all... i tried to install the ati driver for my laptop on karmic, however i think i did something wrong as now compiz won't start and I can't do an awful lot :(
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: use metacity and then remove the driver using synaptic
[14:20] <tarzeau> GutZuWiSSeN: or ls -lR --sort=size
[14:20] <Inferus> sorry, im pretty noob, can you help me ActionParsnip?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: you can then reinstall the driver
[14:20] <iamleneko> hi
[14:20] <sebsebseb> TheSaint: then around the time  XP  runs out of support on the  consumer/homeuser desktop in 2014,   Ubuntu  14.04  should be coming out :)  which will be an LTS according to how releases are done.  Maybe Wine will be able to run most XP programs by then as well and well :)
[14:20] <aguitel> Inferus, try to install with envyng
[14:20] <iamleneko> big problem while upgrading to karmic
[14:20]  * Inferus shrugs
[14:20] <iamleneko> on some server
[14:20] <Inferus> i dont know what you guys mean !
[14:21] <iamleneko> i had a kernel panic while upgrading
[14:21] <iamleneko> what are my solution
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: metacity will load by default if compiz can't raise its ugly head, search synaptic for frglx  and uinstall the driver
[14:21] <TheSaint> sebsebseb: They say the world will end on Dec 2012. So, maybe ubuntu 14.04 may never come out.
[14:21] <adrn> Looks to be impossible to enable SHMconfig -- tried all tricks for /etc/hal/fdi/policy , /usr/share/hal/... and /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:21] <Inferus> yeah, i need to put the fglfx driver back on i think ActionParsnip ?
[14:21] <Inferus> (i was trying to get PKR to play)
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: you need to take it out first
[14:21] <Inferus> oh?
[14:22] <Inferus> how do i do that, in package manager?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: you can then put it back in once the old is out
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: yes
[14:22] <sebsebseb> TheSaint: the world will end then what?  ,but maybe  things will have gotton rather flooded,  because of global warming and ice caps melting,   this has gone a bit off topic now by the way
[14:23] <adrn> Something is now disabling the trackpad on my Adesso for about a half second after hitting any non-control key.  I use spacebar for running and trackball for steering in WoW, so this is a big problem.
[14:23] <Inferus> ActionParsnip: i can't find it :S
[14:23]  * doc_brown opens lid to garbage
[14:23]  * doc_brown drops laptop in
[14:23] <piglit> sebsebseb, then we pigs will be the masters of the world !!!!
[14:23] <Inferus> ahh i think i have it
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: run: dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-video
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: one will be the package to uninstall
[14:23] <Inferus> mm
[14:23] <Inferus> 1 sec then
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: if you have it, you dont need that command
[14:24] <Inferus> ActionParsnip it came up with a big list
[14:24] <Boze> QUESTION: just got Karmic installed. It sees my SB X-FI Extreme both in lspci and in sound preferences, yet I have no audio out. Am I missing something?
[14:24] <adrn> Not see any obvious config setttngs that would have triggered temporarily disabling the trackpad after typing.  Did they COMPILE that behavior in PERMANENTLY?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: it will, ubuntu installs a truckload of pointless drivers by default
[14:25] <Inferus> k
[14:25] <riddley> I did a fresh install of 9.10 and now I can't launch X11 apps from Terminal windows... Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 anyone else seen this or know a fix?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: like I said, if you see the package in add/remove programs you dont need the command
[14:25] <Inferus> hm
[14:25] <tarzeau> riddley: you don't have nfs homes do you?
[14:25] <PreZGN> Did 9.10 break the resumption of USB devices after suspend?
[14:25] <riddley> tarzeau, no
[14:25] <Inferus> ActionParsnip I still don't get it :(
[14:26] <Inferus> what would the package be?
[14:26] <adrn> From term, try " xhost +local: "
[14:26] <Bnerd[TM]> with karmic, we cannot use network-manager-vpnc to connect to a cisco concentrator as the logged in user - interactively as root (simply called as sudo vpnc) works. any ideas how to get this working?
[14:26] <Inferus> i downloaded from ati.amd.com the driver for my onboard graphics
[14:26] <PreZGN> I notice that a) my fingerprint reader, and b) my 3G built-in 'modem' are both not detected after suspend
[14:26] <Inferus> tried to install it
[14:26] <Inferus> didnt really work
[14:26] <Inferus> turned laptop on today, and its not working with compiz
[14:26] <PreZGN> I have to flip wireless off and then on again to get it to detect my 3G modem so I can connect
[14:26] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: remember that add/remove  has been replaced by the Software Centre  in  9.10.  Also they have planned to replace Synaptic by it in 10.04.
[14:26] <riddley> adrn: weird that worked. do I have to do that every time I log in?
[14:26] <jugglerbry> hi all. can anyone recommend a good desktop publisher please ? been using microsloth publisher 2007, but looking for something decent in ubuntu. any recommendations ?
[14:27] <riddley> adrn: I'd tried 'xhost +localhost' before
[14:27] <craZZter> can't seem to get seahorse to cache my ssh keys when using xterm. Any suggestions?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: you have a list there one willl say frglx (or whatever the spelling is) simply remove that package and the driver will be gone
[14:27] <Inferus> k
[14:27] <adrn> Software Centre is a gutted, over simplified version of Synaptic -- losing it would be a horror
[14:27] <john-saint> anyone help me with a webcam problem plz?
[14:27] <philh> jugglerbry, well, there's scribus, but it bears little resemblance to publisher(not that this is generally considered a bad thing)
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: i use apt-get which will always be there
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: gui takes too long
[14:28] <adrn> losing synaptic would be awful
[14:28] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: yeah indeed GUI's are slow for that kind of stuff
[14:28] <Inferus> ActionParsnip i just removed one now
[14:28] <Inferus> ati binary code or something
[14:28] <sebsebseb> adrn: Well it's going to happen
[14:28] <eurythmia> I've got a dual monitor display up and running, but I'd like to have a Gnome panel running across the top of each screen (as opposed to one screen having a panel at the top and the bottom), how would I go about doing this? Changing the settings of one panel to "top" puts it just below the existing gnome panel.
[14:28] <jugglerbry> scribus is what i've seen so far, just looking for recommendations really before i go ahead and install etc
[14:28] <philh> isn't software centre just a replacement for add/remove?
[14:28] <sebsebseb> adrn: That's only a start the  Software Centre replaceing add/remove,  it's going to do a lot more than just that in future releases
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: try: sudo apt-get --purge remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[14:29] <TsukeHiki> eurythmia: go to panel preferences -> uncheck expand then you can move the panel to the monitor and expand it again
[14:29] <sebsebseb> philh: for now, but in future releases it will be more than just that, and will become a rather important part of Ubuntu
[14:29] <Inferus> k
[14:29] <jugglerbry> what else is planned for it sebsebseb ?
[14:29] <eurythmia> TsukeHiki, nice to know. Thanks :)
[14:29] <philh> sebsebseb, i imagine it'll be less crippled by that point
[14:30] <TsukeHiki> it took me a while to figure out too
[14:30] <Inferus> Package xorg-driver-fglrx is not installed, so not removed
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: ok try: dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[14:30] <adrn> Software manager makes what was one window with package and description impossible
[14:31] <Inferus> ActionParsnip ^
[14:31] <Inferus> ActionParsnip: i got a list... what am i looking for?
[14:31] <Amigadude> anyone know where to start getting 9.10 to use my touchpad?
[14:31] <PreZGN> I take it nobody else has noticed USB devices are not being enabled on resume from suspend then ...
[14:31] <Tartaros> how do I tell grub2 to regenerate grub.conf?\
[14:31] <philh> jugglerbry, inkscape's very good but it isn't really designed for dtp, then there's openoffice, of course
[14:31] <sebsebseb> philh: yeah  exactly it looks nice, but installing software with it isn't that easy really
[14:31] <jugglerbry> ok so the only DTP recommended is scribus ?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: ones that look like video drivers
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> Tartaros: sudo update-grub
[14:31] <Tartaros> k thx
[14:31] <sebsebseb> philh: I guess that's basically what you meant  by  what you put
[14:32] <jugglerbry> thanks philh - yeah have seen inkscape and OO, just looking for dedicated DTP
[14:32] <Inferus> ii  xserver-xorg-v 1:6.12.99+git2 X.Org X server -- ATI display driver wrapper
[14:32] <Inferus> ActionParsnip ^
[14:32] <sebsebseb> philh: actsaully I haven't   installed any software with it yet, just seen how it would be done in development version of Karmic
[14:32] <TsukeHiki> I am getting a "error while loading shared libraries: libpython2.5.so.1.0" even though the file is present and i ran sudo ldconfig. anybody got an idea why?
[14:32] <Inferus> ActionParsnip
[14:32] <Inferus> rc  xorg-driver-fg 2:8.660-0ubunt Video driver for the ATI graphics accelerato
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: not sure then, maybe the ati factoid will help
[14:32] <Inferus> that looks like it ? :S
[14:33] <philh> sebsebseb, i think you might be causing unnecessary panic by mentioning such changes, the assumption is that the current version will replace synaptic in the near future, rather than that a massively improved version will in a few releases time
[14:33] <adr3nalin3> Hello can anyone help me with connecting Evolution to Exchange 2007 IMAP?  I keep getting an error in Evolution that says: Error while scanning folders in "exchange.domain.com"
[14:33] <kjelle> Hi. Using Ubuntu 9.04 Server, is there a way to automatically login a user at console?
[14:33] <Inferus> ActionParsnip did you see my last paste?
[14:33] <adrn> what really sucks about 'Software Center" is that is has NO way to query what files were installed.  Not all packages (like 7zip) add a menu entry, so you NEED to see what commands and docs you now have.
[14:33] <jugglerbry> time to go install scribus then.  thanks agains philh
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: looks ood, its rc though so isnt installed but its config is lingering, remove it with: sudo dpkg -P xorg-driver-fglrx
[14:33] <Pici> !ot
[14:34] <Inferus> k
[14:34] <Inferus> ActionParsnip it says the folder isn't empty, so it wont remove it
[14:34] <Inferus> /etc/ati
[14:35] <adrn> Is there a way do disable the brief trackpad / mouse disabling after a keystroke?  This is NEW behavior with Karmic.
[14:35] <Wolfcastle> hello
[14:35] <Wolfcastle> I'm having problems with getting my microphone to work
[14:35] <philh> adrn, have you looked on launchpad for reports of such behaviour?
[14:35] <Wolfcastle> it doesn't seem to record in any program
[14:35] <Wolfcastle> I've tried microphone 1 and 2 in pulseaudio settings
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: no worries, you can now install the driver fresh, use: gksudo jockey-gtk
[14:36] <ismettern> is it possible to make a application you havent downloaded through the eclipse software center appear in the application menu?
[14:36] <Wolfcastle> In karmic koala pulseaudio is working fine for the first time...this is the only problem
[14:36] <Bsims> I have an issue, I have been bitten by Bug # 425704 affecting my capslock, but does it affect numlock as well?
[14:36] <philh> Wolfcastle, is it selected in the volume control dialogue?
[14:37] <Inferus> ActionParsnip "no proprietry drivers in use on this system:
[14:37] <adrn> Not yet, as the trackpad prefs is supposed to let me control that -- have been trying for two days to get it to work.  I have messed with both hal entries,  plus xorg.conf to no avail.
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: o well, guess you gotta do it manual then
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> !ati | Inferus
[14:37] <Inferus> ok ta mate
[14:37] <linux_trojan> Anyone know when the new Ubuntu 9.10 was released?
[14:37] <tarzeau> linux_trojan: last day of october?
[14:37] <Bsims> linux_trojan: on the 30th
[14:38] <Wolfcastle> philh: yes it is selected
[14:38] <linux_trojan> must be very buggy still?
[14:38] <linux_trojan> I dont like bugs
[14:38] <Bsims> linux_trojan: I had two issues... one I fixed and the other I've not been able to fix, and it affects debian as well
[14:38] <wrgb> !tab
[14:38] <philh> linux_trojan, i see, so, how can we help you?
[14:39] <philh> Wolfcastle, in the recording tab?
[14:39] <linux_trojan> phih:  its a chat room, you can help me by chatting
[14:39] <dooglus> can anyone help me get ubuntu one working please?
[14:39] <linux_trojan> or do I have to be part of a club to be granted your presence?
[14:39] <bazhang> linux_trojan, this is support not chat; chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:39] <nmsfan> Can I speak Chinese in this room?
[14:39] <philh> linux_trojan, that isn't of any particular help to you, well, unless you're lonely and just came here for human contact
[14:39] <bee> Hi Guys - does anyone know if the default ftp client in ubuntu supports resume on upload?
[14:40] <sebsebseb> philh:  The rationale is interesting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter
[14:40] <bazhang> nmsfan, in #ubuntu-cn
[14:40] <linux_trojan> its chat, so I chat
[14:40] <Bsims> If anyone wants to know why system bell stopped working, its now blacklisted by the kernel, you have to readd the module
[14:40] <nmsfan> O  thanks
[14:40] <Emery> How would i go about changing the icon next to applications on the gnome menu
[14:40] <dooglus> !cn
[14:40] <philh> linux_trojan, it's support chat, so we support people with specific issues
[14:40] <beed> Does anyone know of a command line FTP client that supports resume on upload?
[14:40] <linux_trojan> all you people do is argue
[14:41] <dooglus> I have a specific issue: ubuntu one doesn't work for me.  will someone help please?
[14:41] <marc_> Anybody feel like helping with an install issue using 9.10?
[14:41] <linux_trojan> there is no help here
[14:41] <llutz> philh: don't feed the (known) troll, pls
[14:41] <linux_trojan> I get  more arguement here then I ever get help
[14:41] <linux_trojan> though I do get some help, hypocrites
[14:41] <wrgb> ubottu: OK, thanks
[14:41] <sebsebseb> dooglus: There's  a log of the Ubuntu Open Week  Ubuntu one session from yesterday,  plus the release notes mentioned some bug
[14:41] <qdb> i want that i can see in a programs all line ins etc and all alsa, oss , pulseaudio etc and all sound shown with lines aith arrows, where does it go.
[14:41] <kjelle> (sry for the repeat) Hi. Using Ubuntu 9.04 Server, is there a way to automatically login a user at console?
[14:41] <dooglus> sebsebseb: I can't see where you're pointing - where's the log?
[14:41] <marc_> I'm trying to get the propertary drivers to scan the hardware
[14:41] <ismettern> since eclipse dident work probably when i installed it through the sofware center, i downloaded it from eclipse.org and now it works. Can i make eclipse appear in the applications menu now?
[14:42] <icehawk78> I currently have two of my folders set up as Samba shares, but recently created a new user for primary use locally, so my desktop wasn't cluttered with the junk from my web admin's home folder. However, I have an external NTFS hard drive, that appears to only allow the currently connected user to access it. Is there a way to either enable an NTFS drive to be accessed by more than one user, or allow Windows 7 to connect to the same computer via 2 differen
[14:42] <lontra> i am getting this warning message everytime i boot about /etc/fstab ... anyone know why? i am on karmic
[14:42] <linux_trojan> anyway the common advice is usually to wait a month for all the bugs to get worked out, I was just wondering if that is still the concensus?
[14:42] <Wolfcastle> philh, yes it's selected but no sound is registered
[14:42] <bazhang> !ot | linux_trojan
[14:42] <dooglus> linux_trojan: a month?  you'll be lucky!
[14:42] <linux_trojan> I see
[14:43] <philh> Wolfcastle, and it's not muted?
[14:43] <Bsims> I have an issue, I have been bitten by Bug # 425704 affecting my capslock, but does it affect numlock as well?
[14:43] <linux_trojan> well I suppose I wont rush to upgrade, give it alittle time to work out the bugs
[14:43] <philh> Wolfcastle, it might be easier to start alsamixer from a terminal and hit tab to switch to the recording view
[14:43] <philh> linux_trojan, that's often the best policy, with any software
[14:43] <marc_> Is there anyway to force ubuntu to scan for drivers off the install disk? When booting from CD it finds the drivers for graphics card and wireless card now that installed on hard drive it doesn't off to use the drivers
[14:44] <beed> Does anyone know of a command line FTP client that supports resume on upload?
[14:44] <linux_trojan> well especially open source software
[14:44] <entmoot> ncftp?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> marc_: you can add the CD as a repo in add/remove programs etc
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> beed: ftp may, its a cli ftp client
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> !ftp
[14:44] <sebsebseb> dooglus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/openweekKarmic/UbuntuOne
[14:45] <linux_trojan> windows actually is more reliable, but then again, who wants microsoft owning your computer, and its more vunerable to being hacked
[14:45] <jrib> linux_trojan: try to stay on the topic of ubuntu support please
[14:45] <marc_> Yeah, I did that, but I need the hardware driver install to scan the hardware now that I've put the disk back in
[14:45] <Pici> linux_trojan: This isn't a discussion channel, this is your last warning to stop. If you want to chat use #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:45] <dooglus> sebsebseb: thanks.  it doesn't work for me
[14:45] <Wolfcastle> philh, ok just checked and it's not muted
[14:45] <sebsebseb> dooglus: well  that tells people how to set it up and get it working
[14:45] <ruffyen> anyone here using UEC?
[14:45] <linux_trojan> open source has more bug issues but atleast most hacks and malware are not effective at all
[14:45] <Wolfcastle> philh, tried front mic and mic and neither is working
[14:45] <sebsebseb> dooglus: plus when I looked at the 9.10 release notes there was something about a bug in the one client if I remember correctly
[14:45] <Taejo> what's the difference between linux and linux-generic packages?
[14:45] <linux_trojan> I am not off topic
[14:46] <dooglus> sebsebseb: I see a button in nautilus marked 'connect'.  I click it and it changes to 'connecting', greyed out.  it's been like that for days now.
[14:46] <sebsebseb> !notes |  dooglus
[14:46] <linux_trojan> you people are sick weirdos, truely, not normal people
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> linux_trojan: you are, this is a pure support channel
[14:46] <jrib> linux_trojan: this channel's topic is ubuntu SUPPORT (asking a support question or helping someone else with their support question)
[14:46] <Spixx> obvious troll is here! :D
[14:46] <adrn> ismettern: looking for a backup solution, i tried installing Bakula.  Software Center only showed two packages -- installed, program would not complete launching.  Searching Synaptic Package Manager, I see that there are quite a few other packages that Software Center ignored.
[14:46] <ljl> 7Whois linux_trojan
[14:46] <seb2> K3rl0u4rn: Maybe yes, file a bug.
[14:47] <philh> Wolfcastle, what are you using to record, audacity? can you set preferences to make it use alsa instead of pulse, just incase pa is getting in the way?
[14:47] <Spixx> adrn: What type of env? server?
[14:47] <sebsebseb> Taejo: I think it basically means with generic that is isn't some fancy version of the kernel
[14:47] <K3rl0u4rn> seb2: thank you
[14:47] <ruffyen> so no Ubuntu UEC users?
[14:47] <sebsebseb> Taejo: generic is fine also for most Ubuntu users, hence why the kernels are generic
[14:47] <adrn> I have read numerous comments that disabling pulse and using ALSA fixes all sorts of audio issues.
[14:47] <Wolfcastle> philh, was trying with sound recorder...guess I can stop pulseaudio and try it out
[14:48] <mikedep333> hi, I found a bug in gnome whereby one background is being imposed on another. what gnome program handles the background/wallpaper? I want to report the bug
[14:48] <sebsebseb> dooglus: I am not planning on using Ubuntu One any time soon :)
[14:48] <philh> stopping pa in 9.04 doesn't work, the moment something tries to use alsa it triggers the daemon to start again, well, for playback at any rate
[14:48] <Inferus> ./ati-driver-installer-8.443.1-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/<version>
[14:48] <jrib> mikedep333: nautilus
[14:49] <Inferus> when i try to do this, i'm geting nothing
[14:49] <mikedep333> jrib, thanks
[14:49] <Inferus> terminal can't evn see the .run file
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: you need to manouve through the folders so your terminal is in the folder you downloaded the file to
[14:49] <Inferus> ActionParsnip i have
[14:49] <Inferus> if i do ls it lists it
[14:50] <Inferus> but if i type ati and press tab, it doesn't auto fill the name?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: if you used firefox's dumb default and downloaded to the desktop you will need to run: cd ~/Desktop    first
[14:50] <seb2> K3rl0u4rn: Already done : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/460876
[14:50] <Wolfcastle> philh, I can see that...i can't kill the process...it's like a virus
[14:50] <philh> infernix, it probably needs to be +x for that to work
[14:50] <Wolfcastle> philh, I'm using 9.10 btw
[14:50] <legend2440> Inferus: right click the file check properties>permissions   make sure it is executable
[14:50] <dooglus> sebsebseb: seems that ubuntu one won't work if you don't have 'network manager' installed : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/openweekKarmic/UbuntuOne
[14:50] <Inferus> i have to type sudo first legend2440 ActionParsnip
[14:50] <dooglus> uh - https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/357395
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: you will also need to run:chmod +x ./ati-driver-installer-8.443.1-x86.x86_64.run
[14:50] <Inferus> ah ok
[14:50] <Inferus> ty
[14:50] <Taejo> AH! I'm running an old kernel. Maybe that's the problem with my sound.
[14:50] <philh> Wolfcastle, you can issue a switch to it to kill it, but it doesn't stay dead, in my experience
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: to make the file executable
[14:51] <Inferus> ahh something is happening :D
[14:51] <Wolfcastle> philh, I can see that...so any ideas how to stop it? maybe making it non executable in /etc/init.d?
[14:51] <Inferus> Error: Distro Version entered incorrectly or not supported, use --listpkg to identify valid distro versions
[14:51] <Inferus> Error: Distro Version entered incorrectly or not supported, use --listpkg to identify valid distro versions
[14:51] <philh> Wolfcastle, sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio worked nicely for me
[14:51] <Inferus> its not karmic compatible? :(
[14:52] <philh> but i don't know how dependant things are on it in 9.10
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: is that what --listpkg   said?
[14:52] <sebsebseb> dooglus: well I know that you program,  so  you could probably fix some One bugs if you really wanted to,  assuming that it is open source
[14:52] <neeD_help> hello i'm login with a 2nd desktop i try : vncserver :1 and it require a pass i set then i modify the .vnc/xstartup and uncomment: unset SESSION_MANAGER and uncomment the exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc , when i log with vnc it display a terminal not a normal Desktop! why thx
[14:52] <adrn> Is it possible to reinstall Jaunty over karmic, or would so many weird dependency failures occur that a clean install would be needed?
[14:52] <legend2440> Inferus: it should say    --buildpkg Ubuntu/karmic
[14:52] <erUSUL> !downgrade
[14:52] <Inferus> legend2440 ActionParsnip it doesnt have it in the list
[14:52] <K3rl0u4rn> seb2: oh all right then :)
[14:52] <Inferus> only up to jaunty
[14:52] <Inferus> or 9.04
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> adrn: itd be a big mess, clean install is the only real way to get back to jaunty
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> Inferus: looks like not then
[14:53] <adrn> pretty much what I expected.  Wish had upgraded onto a diff HD.
[14:53] <lontra> i did a fresh install of 9.10 and i am getting this ugly warning about being unable to mount a filesystem in /etc/fstab and to press ESC to to enter recovery shell ... it seems to be benign but it is an ugly warning ... how can i get around it
[14:53] <uczen> walić ubuntu
[14:53] <Inferus> =[
[14:53] <Inferus> ActionParsnip what do i do now then, seeing as I dont have a driver at present!
[14:53] <Inferus> what do i install :S
[14:53] <iceroot> is it possible to create a *.deb which is only using a postinst? i want to configure something and make a *.deb from it (which have a dependency on another package which is needing this config)
[14:54] <DJones> !pl | uczen
[14:54] <nameless`> hi
[14:55] <iceroot> was that utf-8 ubottu posted? because its not displayed correct here
[14:55] <nameless`> does anybody know why ubuntu 9.10 doesn't work on macbook ?
[14:55] <nameless`> the 64bits AND the 32bits
[14:55] <iceroot> !details | nameless`
[14:55] <bazhang> iceroot, polish language
[14:55] <iamleneko> hi
[14:55] <iceroot> bazhang: and the charset?
[14:55] <erUSUL> !doesntwork | nameless`
[14:56] <philh> wow, infobot spam, great
[14:56] <neeD_help> hello i'm login with a 2nd desktop i try : vncserver :1 and it require a pass i set then i modify the .vnc/xstartup and uncomment: unset SESSION_MANAGER and uncomment the exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc , when i log with vnc it display a terminal not a normal Desktop! why thx
[14:56] <iamleneko> i need to install karmic server version on existing partition but i need to not erase the data in it
[14:56] <legend2440> Inferus: open system>administration>hardware drivers  anything there for ati?
[14:56] <DJones> iceroot: It showed up fine for me using putty set to utf8 & screen+irssi
[14:56] <iceroot> DJones: hm, ok, i am using screen + irssi + konsole (utf-8)
[14:57] <Inferus> legend2440 nothing
[14:57] <erUSUL> iceroot: the same here gnome-terminal + screen + irssi (terminus font)
[14:57] <IndyGunFreak> iamleneko: well backup the data... if you're wanting to do a clean install, thats just not realistic
[14:57] <erUSUL> iceroot: i mean it looks ok
[14:57] <alex910> since I installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my machine, it says "no space left on device" on my /home partition... even though it's only full at 87% as per df. anybody faced this issue?
[14:57] <philh> lontra, look in /etc/fstab and see which filesystem entry might be causing the issue
[14:57] <iceroot> !postmesomethingwithäöüß | iceroot
[14:57] <iamleneko> IndyGunFreak, i need to recover my system
[14:58] <iamleneko> not to do a clean install
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> alex910: have the partition fsck'd
[14:58] <iamleneko> i had a kernel panic while upgrading
[14:58] <ortsvorsteher> wär? iceroot
[14:58] <guillaume> Anyone has got a problem with an external hard drive that suddendly becomes slow to transfer data. about 1Mo/seconde when it use to be really fast with 9.04
[14:58] <gnomeye> hi guillaume
[14:58] <gnomeye> ;-)
[14:58] <iceroot> ortsvorsteher: utf-8 or iso 8859-1?
[14:58] <Inferus> thx for help, but still nowhere near fixed... will go play :(
[14:58] <Inferus> bai
[14:58] <guillaume> hi gnomeeye
[14:58] <guillaume> hi guys
[14:58] <ortsvorsteher> iceroot: how i find out?
[14:58] <IndyGunFreak> iamleneko: i understand your problem.... what i'm saying is, what you're asking doesn't seem realistic, think about it.. you want to clena install 1 OS, over another, and you don't want to lose any data...
[14:59] <masteris> are there is brutus for linux?
[14:59] <iceroot> ortsvorsteher: good question
[14:59] <brutus> somebody pinged?
[14:59] <IndyGunFreak> iamleneko: if you have a live cd of some sort and external storage device, you could use the live CD to backup the hard drive.
[14:59] <masteris> i now
[14:59] <ortsvorsteher> iceroot: must be iso cause i am computer with german keyboard
[15:00] <Ioneye> Is there a way that i can upgrade directly from 7.10 to 9.04 or 9.10?
[15:00] <iceroot> ortsvorsteher: that does not matter, normal ubuntu is using utf-8 in germany
[15:00]  * ortsvorsteher is not a computer, is on an computer ;) 
[15:00] <bazhang> Ioneye, nope
[15:00] <ljl> Ioneye, afraid not. only LTS to LTS is possible when skipping versions
[15:00] <guillaume> I read on saome forum that this problem happened in the past , on ubuntu 7.10 but I dont understand why my external usn disk is so slow
[15:00] <cooler> hi is there anybody??
[15:00] <guillaume> any clues?
[15:00] <iceroot> cooler: open your eyes
[15:00] <ortsvorsteher> iceroot: env prints out: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
[15:00] <cooler> its my first time on irc
[15:00] <KenBW2> loneye: sill on 7.10?
[15:01] <cooler> i don't know how to use it
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> cooler: its like any other text chat
[15:01] <iamleneko> IndyGunFreak, i will have issue with mysql innodb data, i cannot just do some backup and erase the data, i really really need to not format at all my disk
[15:01] <iceroot> ortsvorsteher: ok, then it was not utf-8 what ubottu was posting. thank you
[15:01] <Ioneye> KenBW2: i just found my old laptop so i can to upgrade it...but got no cd's or anything
[15:01] <cooler> and im from poland a theres too much english - i dont understand how to find channel??
[15:01] <ortsvorsteher> iceroot: you are welcome ;)
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> !pl
[15:01] <boscop> after booting my volume is always at 0. why?
[15:01] <Tartaros> how can I view what packages are under which package group? (groups = things like "ubuntu server" and "ubuntu desktop" etc in Synaptic)
[15:01] <bazhang> cooler, /join #channelname
[15:02] <guillaume> Do you know how to set up the speed transfer of a disk?
[15:02] <boknoy> argh! I accidentally overwrote my fstab... how can I get the fstab ubuntu's installer makes? :)
[15:02] <lontra> philh: http://pastebin.ca/1654883
[15:02] <lontra> that's my /etc/fstab
[15:02] <mainbrain> irc://irc.oftc.net/kernelnewbies
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> boscop: i've had this. Here is my fix: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/88186
[15:02] <IndyGunFreak> iamleneko: ok.. i understand your data, so all i'll say, is stop, look at what your asking, and say, "Does this make sense"... you're wanting to install 1 OS, over another, w/o losing data... thats just not realistic
[15:03] <iamleneko> IndyGunFreak, sorry but did this on another distribution in the past
[15:03] <philh> boknoy, what did you overwrite it with? if you used a text editor is there a similarly named file with a ~ lying around in etc?
[15:03] <iamleneko> well nevermind i will found the issur
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> IndyGunFreak: can do it with backups
[15:03] <IndyGunFreak> ActionParsnip: thats the issue, he has no backup.
[15:03] <boknoy> philh, echo :D... I just needed to know what;s in there, as I don't remember
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> IndyGunFreak: data is disposable then ;)
[15:03] <boknoy> lontra, thanks, I'll base mine from yours
[15:03] <IndyGunFreak> ActionParsnip: lol
[15:03] <nameless`> ok
[15:04] <neeD_help> hello i'm login with a 2nd desktop i try : vncserver :1 and it require a pass i set then i modify the .vnc/xstartup and uncomment: unset SESSION_MANAGER and uncomment the exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc , when i log with vnc it display a terminal not a normal Desktop! why thx
[15:04] <nick_h> how can i determine which version of PHP's PEAR this package contains?:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/php-pear  the package has version # 5.2.6... , but that's not the version of PEAR
[15:04] <guillaume> boknoy open a shell, type in: gksudo nautilus, then go in your home folder and right on the hard drive you need to set up go and change the permission, that will automatically change you fstab
[15:04] <Ioneye> and now something else..i was upgrading my pc to 9.10 from 9.04 through update manager when suddenly electricity went down to my neighboor. Now i can's boot up cause there is an error. not even in safe mode or anything. anyone any suggestions?
[15:04] <philh> boknoy, i wonder if it can be regenerated from current mtab
[15:04] <boknoy> guillaume, does it set swap too?
[15:04] <XiXaQ> nick_h, you can use the application "rmadison" to see which version of a package is available in the different releases.
[15:04] <boknoy> nvm, I just needed to see what entries are there in a default install, namely / and swap
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> Ioneye: you need the liveCD to then chroot to the half install to run: sudo apt-get -f install
[15:05] <guillaume> boknoy no is doesnt
[15:05] <IndyGunFreak> iamleneko: you may have backed up settings(ie, /home).. but its not realistic to install 1 OS, over another, w/o losing data.. if you upgrade, thats different, but a clean install is gonna format the drive.
[15:05] <nameless`> i have a macbook 2.13ghz intel core 2 duo, i try to install ubuntu 9.10 in dual boot. I partitionned my harddisk with boot camp and then i installed refit. I then boot on the ubuntu live cd 9.10 from the refit loader. Once i arrived on the ubuntu menu, i choose "try ubuntu without doing anything on the computer" the first choice, and then nothing, the screen goes dark and nothing happen
[15:05] <guillaume> boknoy I d recommend to install gparted and do it from it
[15:05] <salvatore> buon giorno mi servono dei brani dei scorpions
[15:05] <erUSUL> !it | salvatore
[15:06] <Ioneye> ActionParsnip: There are is no cd or anything..since..here where i am there is only internet and nothing more..
[15:06] <jrib> nick_h: easy enough to download orig.tar.gz and take a look
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> nameless`: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded? Have you verified the CD once first booted to?
[15:06] <guillaume> Anyone has got a problem with an external hard drive that suddendly becomes slow to transfer data. about 1Mo/seconde when it use to be really fast with 9.04
[15:06] <nick_h> jrib: i was hoping there was a faster method
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Ioneye: bootable usb stick
[15:06] <nameless`> ActionParsnip : yes
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | nameless`
[15:06] <alex910> ActionParsnip: I did umount, fsck -f /dev/sda9 (my /home), remount. nothing found and the problem is still here
[15:06] <boknoy> guillaume, this is a netbook, it just needs / and swap... and almost forgot about proc
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> nameless`: try some boot options, maybe mac has some weirdness
[15:07] <frostburn> is there an ubuntu way of changing your default cli editor, or do i just manually put it in as an env variable
[15:07] <nameless`> ok
[15:07] <alex910> ActionParsnip, furthermore, I have a dual boot system Ubuntu 9.04/9.10 and the problem does not appear on Ubuntu 9.04, with the same /home FS
[15:07] <IRQBreaker> Anyone got SB X-FI working on Karmic?
[15:07] <jrib> frostburn: update-alternatives
[15:07] <nameless`> ActionParsnip what is acpi ?
[15:07] <davidgray> Hey guys, Just wondering if anyone could help me out with applying the patch from post 3 here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-backports-modules-2.6.24/+bug/252630
[15:08] <frostburn> jrib, ty
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> alex910: could install 9.04 then upgrade
[15:08] <Ioneye> ActionParsnip: i am running on a live cd with ubuntu 7.10..i can download the 9.10 but is there any way to create a bootable stick?
[15:09] <legwan> Hi guys! Can You give me any clue with my audio problem? Ubuntu 9.10 64bit 2.6.31-14 freshly installed on common Santa Rosa laptop (C2D, HDA Intel) and the problem is that I dont have any devices in pulse audio sound configuration, output set to null, command alsa force-reload fix that (appears device "Integral Device") but it only works till next reboot. I've looked on forum but didn't found anything like that.
[15:09] <erUSUL> !intelhda | legwan
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> Ioneye: not sure 7.10 has the tool, you can always use this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
[15:10] <edgy> Hi, when I choose my wired connection, the wireless get disconnected, how can I connect to both?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> legwan: lspci | grep -i audio will tell you what the sound chi pis, you can websearch from that
[15:10] <rsk> edgy you can
[15:10] <rsk> 't
[15:11] <edgy> rsk: how?
[15:11] <jgonick> Just installed Karmic, Is there really no easy way to customize desktop sound effects? I searched the web and didn't find any.
[15:11] <rsk> not in any way
[15:11] <legwan> ActionParnship I've checked that but thank anyway
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> edgy: could use /etc/network/interfaces to define both as up and on dhcp, they should both get an IP address then but network manager will cease to work
[15:11] <edgy> ActionParsnip: I want to do it from the GUI ;)
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> edgy: you will also need to implement some fancy routing to use both connections, if they are both connected to the same router, you will not get any extra internet speed
[15:12] <CaneToad> Is 9.10 up to real use?  I upgraded 9.04 to 9.10 and now when it boots I get the ubuntu logo, and then I get a text console window all flashing, and the boot doesn't continue.
[15:12] <Guest5267> hola?
[15:12] <edgy> ActionParsnip: they are connected to two different routers
[15:12] <Guest5267> soy socrates_, estoy donde creo que estoy?
[15:13] <IdleOne> !es | Guest5267
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> edgy: thats good then, I'm not sure network manaer can handle that but i'm certain that the interfaces file can
[15:13] <damo> need some help please
[15:13] <damo> how do i remove wine from my applications menu
[15:13] <edgy> ActionParsnip: ok thanks a lot or the hint, may I ask another question?
[15:13] <Tartaros> how can I view what packages are under which package group? (groups = things like "ubuntu server" and "ubuntu desktop" etc in Synaptic)
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> edgy: ask the channel
[15:14] <damo> i uninstalled wine but it left crap on my applications menu
[15:14] <edgy>  how can I use rsync to download karmic kubuntu dvd? any link?
[15:14] <canthus13> damo: Right click on the applications button....
[15:14] <damo> yh
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> damo: look in ~/.config/menus/applications-merged
[15:14] <edgy> ActionParsnip: I already did ask this question many times now but no one reply, do you know?
[15:14] <yadudoc> Hi , I just upgraded to karmic , and the boot time is much slower than in Jaunty. Is there a way to speed it up ?
[15:14] <canthus13> damo: Click edit menus.
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> edgy: not something i use, sorry
[15:14] <jgonick> damo, right click application, edit menu, uncheck wine
[15:14] <damo> kk ty
[15:14] <canthus13> damo: Select the correct menu, then uncheck wine.
[15:15] <penthief> I upgraded to 9.10 and Gnome freezes after nm-applet asks for the keyring password. I'm now running on an older kernel, and no freeze, but it barely works.
[15:15] <damo> omg
[15:15] <damo> worked thanks lol
[15:15] <damo> next question
[15:15] <philh> edgy, why do you want to use rsync?
[15:15] <damo> where do i download a firewall
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> yadudoc: could use bum to reduce boot up items
[15:15] <canthus13> No prob.
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> !firewall | damo
[15:15] <damo> o ok
[15:15] <damo> so i dont need download one
[15:15] <damo> awsome :)
[15:15] <canthus13> nope.
[15:15] <jgonick> canthus13, no anything about desktop sound effects in Karmic?
[15:16] <canthus13> jgonick: Nope.  I'm boring. I'm still using Hardy. :)
[15:16] <damo> how do i see hidden folders in my home diconery
[15:16] <yadudoc> ActionParsnip, bum ? But why did boot get slower ? Isn't it supposed to get faster ? any clue ?
[15:16] <damo> cnt spell
[15:16] <Speculater> Ha I am on my blackberry :p
[15:16] <canthus13> damo: from Nautilus, ctrl-H.  from the command line ls -A
[15:16] <philh> damo, View > Show hidden files
[15:16] <yadudoc> ActionParsnip, is it because of the old applications from jaunty ?
[15:16] <pticochon> hi
[15:17] <damo> done it thanks
[15:17] <notfoo> Speculater: congrats?
[15:17] <pticochon> hi, I'm using XFCE4 and I love it, but how can I disable compiz permanently? I don't want it
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> yadudoc: its only as fast as the config
[15:17] <canthus13> Speculater: Don't hurt yourself.
[15:17] <Speculater> Lol thanks
[15:17] <notfoo> what bb vers you have?
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> yadudoc: you could also read: dmesh | less      to see if there is anything causing a holdup
[15:17] <damo> this system is well better than xp
[15:17] <notfoo> ^speculater
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> pticochon: uninstall it
[15:18] <reverebeer> hi #ubuntu. NetworkManager Applet (/usr/bin/nm-applet), the gnome network manager in the toolbar, asks for a password to use, but only accept a previous password! Not my latest one. This has been happening for around a month now. Anyone know of any solutions?
[15:18] <pticochon> ActionParsnip, thanks but
[15:18] <philh> well better, eh?
[15:18] <pticochon> I'd like to just disable it from the startup programs
[15:18] <pticochon> I could do that in gnome but I don't know how to do that in xfce :)
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> pticochon: that works too, possibly in ~/.config/autostart
[15:18] <yadudoc> ActionParsnip, was there a typo ? bash says no dmesh
[15:18] <stimpie> Is there a gui to manage 'sevices' like tomcat and apache?
[15:18] <yadudoc> ActionParsnip,  demsg ?
[15:18] <pticochon> let me try
[15:19] <yadudoc> ActionParsnip, sorry* dmesg ?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> yadudoc: dmesg | less
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> stimpie: gnome-service-manager
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-service-manager
[15:19] <canthus13> stimpie: ebox is a web interface that should hndle apache. dunno about tomcat.
[15:19] <canthus13> !info ebox
[15:20] <mutou> #free
[15:20] <pticochon> ActionParsnip, I have compiz.desktop at ~/config/autostart
[15:20] <pticochon> shall I remove it?
[15:20] <yadudoc> ActionParsnip, whoa.... thats a lot of info ... i don't think i can make much out of it... would u have time to go through a paste bin ? Or would it be a waste of time ?
[15:20] <openweek9> a few quick yes no question here: im installing 9.10 within win7 with the ubuntu installer. will i get ext4? and will i be able to access my windows files inn ubuntu (or do i need to keep all my files within the 30gb i choose in the installer)?
[15:20] <aazz> Is there a utility that I can use to search partitions to see if any of them have a grub bootloader on them?
[15:20] <JonathanEllis> I have a graphics problem with Ubuntu 9.10 on my Dell Dimension 2400. When I get to the logon screen the graphics are blurred and torn. I understand lots of people have sorted this by removing compiz. I did this and it was ok for a while. Now the problem is back and I have run out of things to fix it. The 9.10 liveCD also doesnt work. In fact 9.04 and 8.10 didnt work either. The last release I had working correctly was 8.04. Has anyone else had suc
[15:21] <erUSUL> openweek9: yes and yes
[15:21] <pticochon> trying
[15:21] <alan___> hi, can anyone help me configure my dell inspiron 1300 wireless card?
[15:21] <h4f> The program crashed on an assertion failure, but the message could not be retrieved. Apport does not support reporting these crashes.
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> yadudoc: look at the times on the left, if you see a large gap in time then there is your issue
[15:22] <JonathanEllis> joeyeye: Hello, I am still trying to fix my graphics. Thanks for your help yesterday
[15:22] <rayhan>  /join #cakephp
[15:23] <pticochon> man
[15:23] <pticochon> I removed compiz from there
[15:23] <pticochon> but it was a mistake
[15:23] <pticochon> :D
[15:23] <pticochon> compiz still loads
[15:23] <om26er> what what what
[15:23] <pticochon> but it takes a little to show the title bars of the windows and so
[15:23] <pticochon> oh hi
[15:24] <pticochon> I'm using xfce ok
[15:24] <pticochon> and I love it
[15:24] <pticochon> BUT
[15:24] <pticochon> it loads compiz by default, and I don't want it
[15:24] <stimpie> ActionParsnip, gnome-service-manager does not work with upstart I believe
[15:24] <canthus13> alan___: Hmm.. b43-fwcutter may get you up and running.
[15:24] <afink> Can someone please help me with sound.  Since upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 yesterday I have no sound.  Soundcard is: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[15:24] <pticochon> afink
[15:24] <pticochon> check that you're in the audio group
[15:24] <om26er> afink: w8
[15:24] <rayhan>  /join #cakephp
[15:24] <canthus13> alan___: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[15:25] <Amigadude> how do I check which vga driver I'm using? cos the matrix screen blanker was doing about 3fps
[15:25] <san123> hey guys please help me! i can play mp3s in amarok but in youtube there is no voice or sound!! please tell me solution i m using ubuntu 9.10 karmic
[15:25] <canthus13> alan___: There are instructions for ubuntu in there.
[15:25] <pticochon> 9.10 screwed up the sound for a lot of people I guess
[15:25] <alan___> ok I will try but am pretty useless on computers
[15:25] <yadudoc> ActionParsnip, dmesg is the messages from kernel on boot huh ? looks neat... i can only see a sizeable gap of like 2 sec, something happening with the swap partition.
[15:25] <canthus13> alan___: :)  It's fairly simple. you can get to a terminal, right?
[15:26] <om26er> afink: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-no-sound-sound-blaster-audigy-after-upgrading-from-ubuntu-9-04-to-9-10.html
[15:26] <alan___> think so
[15:26] <san123> in ubuntu 9.10 there is no audio or sound in youtube does anyone have solution?
[15:26] <om26er> might work
[15:26] <afink> thanks om26er and pticochon
[15:26] <pstoellberger_> anyone got an idea why i can use my BRIGHTNESSDOWN key but not UP ?
[15:26] <stimpie> san123,  is this only youtube or all flash?
[15:26] <om26er> san123: yes flash player is muted
[15:26] <canthus13> alan___: From there, just type (or paste) the lines in the isntructions.  It's fairly automagic.
[15:26] <pstoellberger_> after upgrading from 9.04 > 9.10
[15:26] <san123> then how to enable sound?
[15:26] <yadudoc> I have a 3Gb RAM and 1Gb swap space allocated.. Is it safe to delete the swap partition ? I have never seen the swap being used in the gnome-system-monitor
[15:26] <afink> brb
[15:26] <alan___> will try thanks
[15:27] <om26er> there is an icon at youtube.com for volume
[15:27] <om26er> ha
[15:27] <tonybibbs> Apparently I can't install software using the ubuntu software center.  I see everything fine but can't do "install".  Is there a trick here?
[15:27] <nfrs> hi
[15:27] <h4f> I need "ID3 tag demuxer" for rythmbox. and I have installed restricted=extras !!
[15:27] <san123> i just installed ubuntu 9.10 2 days back and i am new to ubuntu dont know much i installed amarok and mp3s are working fine
[15:27] <om26er> !hi | nfrs
[15:27] <san123> but it took many trys to install flash player
[15:27] <san123> finally when flash player got installed in firefox still no audio or voice
[15:27] <om26er> san123: did a reboot?
[15:27] <san123> ya
[15:28] <san123> i saw in forums to reboot but dint work
[15:28] <om26er> san123: checked any other browser?
[15:28] <san123> no i have only firefox
[15:28] <nfrs> please don't kill me for this question, but is there a FrontPage substitution for Linux? It's for an aged person who would have trouble learning new stuff.
[15:28] <hikenboot> can anyone tell me whats the magic in the xsplash image. I replaced it with one of the same dimensions 1024 x768 (not sure of the number of colors) instead of the image i get a black screen
[15:28] <afink> om26er: what was that link again?
[15:28] <om26er> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-no-sound-sound-blaster-audigy-after-upgrading-from-ubuntu-9-04-to-9-10.html
[15:29] <BunnyG> Anyone know why my "Activate" button on Hardware drivers dosent work? (kubuntu karmic)
[15:29] <afink> thanks
[15:29] <pticochon> nfrs I don't know whether it fits your needs, but kompozer is a tool for creating websites
[15:29] <philh> nfrs, there's kompozer, but it's not very good, much in the same way that fp is 'not very good'
[15:29] <pticochon> much like dreamweaver
[15:29] <san123> hey can anyone tell me how to bring task manager or something where i can kill processes
[15:29] <canthus13> nfrs: NVU, maybe.
[15:29] <nfrs> canthus13: NVU?
[15:29] <canthus13> Dunno if it's still being developed, though.
[15:29] <san123> how to enable sound in flash player
[15:29] <fiatlux> san123: did you try gnome-system-monitor?
[15:30] <philh> canthus13, kompozer is a fork of nvu
[15:30] <om26er> san123: i don't think any1 can help
[15:30] <om26er> brb
[15:30] <stimpie> san123, System->Administration-> System monitor
[15:30] <canthus13> nfrs: http://net2.com/nvu/
[15:31] <alan___> i cant understand all that,, is there no easy way?
[15:31] <nfrs> what about Eclipse, NetBeans, IntelliJ, etc.? Are they good for website creation?
[15:31] <alan___> reall dont know what i am doing here
[15:31] <canthus13> alan___: Not likely.
[15:31] <Hobart> I'm trying Ubuntu Netbook Remix off USB, running into bug #469255 ("can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow") ... I think there may be a better workaround than remaking the USB stick without the local storage option...
[15:32] <canthus13> alan___: Just go to a terminal, and type sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[15:32] <Hobart> Anyone know what part of the init scripts it hits that error in?
[15:32] <alan___> ok, guess its back to windows for me then, pity cos apart from not being able to use my wireless router it looks pretty good
[15:32] <canthus13> alan___: tell it 'yes' when prompted.
[15:32] <h4f1> I need  "Adaptive Multi Rate (AMR) decoder" for rythmbox
[15:32] <edgy> philh: because I already have downloaded a beta version
[15:32] <shakall69> anyone got a good kernel compile guide for karmic ?
[15:32] <canthus13> alan___: That should take care of the problem.
[15:32] <bmwracer0> alan___, just apt-get install b43-cutter
[15:32] <jgonick> san123, might check the application tab under sound pref.  ..Should see ALSA-plugin
[15:32] <canthus13> alan___: It's really no harder than that.
[15:32] <edgy> philh: so I want now to only download the difference
[15:33] <canthus13> alan___: The rest of the instructions are for distributions that don't have any native packages.
[15:34] <alan___> ok i did that so it should now work?
[15:34] <canthus13> Check your wireless.
[15:35] <canthus13> It should.
[15:35] <alan___> maybe need a reboot cos no wireless there
[15:35] <bieb> is there a strong reason to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10?
[15:35] <lilyshu> !xubuntu
[15:35] <canthus13> alan___: Maybe...
[15:35] <alan___> ok thanks wil call back and let you know
[15:35] <alan___> thanks
[15:35] <shakall69> need help compiling latest kernel in karmic
[15:36] <bradland> anyone know of a wireshark 1.2 package for Debian/Ubuntu?
[15:36] <stimpie> bieb, faster boot and a general more 'streamlined' experience  is what I think so far
[15:36] <bradland> repo still has 1.0 branch :\
[15:36] <om26er> !lubuntu
[15:36] <Pici> !info wireshark | bradland
[15:36] <om26er> !moblin
[15:36] <canthus13> om26er: It's still not out. :(
[15:36] <bieb> stimpie: thanks
[15:36] <san123> I dont have sound in flash in firefox please help someone
[15:36] <om26er> canthus13: just checking
[15:37] <dale> having problems with my fan, sensors is showing 31C, toshiba l300, ubuntu 9.10, I have tried acpi_osi=Linux
[15:37] <bradland> say whaaa? i only see 1.0.7.
[15:37] <om26er> canthus13: is it gonna come with Lucid?
[15:37] <Pici> bradland: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[15:37] <dale> anyone have any idea? once the fan turns on (full) it never turns off
[15:37] <bradland> ah, karmic
[15:37] <canthus13> om26er: No word yet.
[15:37] <philh> san123, try running firefox from a terminal and see if there's any error output when you try to play a flash video
[15:37] <bradland> Pici: the eyes, they do nothing ;)
[15:37] <kelli> how do i find out what video formats i can watch
[15:37] <om26er> canthus13: the official logo is being decided for lubuntu
[15:37] <dale> it starts off then turns on after 10 minutes or so
[15:37] <san123> philh, how to run in terminal? sorry i am new to ubuntu so dont know much
[15:38] <bradland> pici: haven't upgraded because rebooting this box is a PITA. i have to have someone at the colo "touch" it in order for it to come back up.
[15:38] <philh> san123, Application > Accessories > Terminal
[15:38] <afink> is there a command I can run to test sound to try to get some errors?  I tried the link om26er sent but I couldn't find anything that said audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack
[15:38] <san123> whats the command?
[15:38] <philh> just type firefox into the resulting terminal and hit enter
[15:38] <Take0n> when I type sensors in terminal I get temps first I get a virtual-device and then two cores.. what is that virtual device?
[15:38] <mehul_yadav> hi
[15:39] <preetam> hi..can anybody tell me how to change the xubuntu splash login screen to ubuntu login screen in ubuntu 9.10
[15:39] <om26er> afink: i don't know but install mplayer and play anything from terminal through mplayer and it will show you the errors i think
[15:39] <mehul_yadav> Flash in FireFox isnt working for me
[15:39] <shane2peru> ok, have an fresh installation, grub booted the first time, and not the second time, grub fails
[15:39] <stimpie> afink, checkbox-gtk might help
[15:39] <om26er> mehul_yadav: upgraded from jaunty
[15:39] <om26er> mehul_yadav: 64-bit?
[15:39] <mehul_yadav> how do i do that?
[15:39] <artopal> Hi, I have a problem with changing keyboard layouts (Ubuntu 9.10), is here someone with 2 or more layouts which may help me out?
[15:40] <kelli> how can i update video formats
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> kelli:  you mean install video codecs?
[15:40] <afink> om26er: ok thanks
[15:40] <philh> kelli, update video formats?
[15:40] <JonathanEllis> Am I wasting my time trying to get karmic to work on Dell machines more than five years old. My desktop is a Dimension 2400 with a Celeron 2.4GHz and 1GB of RAM. My laptop is a Latitude C610 also with 1GB of RAM. Both have graphics problems and so far I have spent at least 40 hours trying to fix them but I seem to be getting nowhere. Is it better to just give up and go back to Hardy?
[15:40] <shane2peru> I just put the disk back in, and re-installed grub, going to see if that helped, anyone know of anything like this?
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> JonathanEllis:  these are clean installs ? or upgrades>
[15:40] <kelli> Dr_Willis, how an i do that
[15:40] <JonathanEllis> Clean installs
[15:41] <Dr_Willis> !w32codecs
[15:41] <san123> philh, no i still dont hear any voice only video
[15:41] <Dr_Willis> kelli:  install the w32codec pack from medibuntu repos
[15:41] <om26er> kelli: you installed from ubuntu 9.10 cd
[15:41] <philh> san123, and there are no errors in the terminal window?
[15:41] <om26er> sorry
[15:41] <san123> philh, no
[15:41] <kelli> no using 9.04
[15:41] <philh> san123, maybe check the pulse-audio volume control applet and make sure firefox isn't muted for some stupid reason
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> JonathanEllis:   the intel video drivers are constantly being tweaked (if they have intel video) so you may want to check the forums every so often for 9.10 video updates/info
[15:42] <MrKlown> is there a specific room to talk about software made for ubuntu?
[15:42] <philh> kelli, which formats are you after?
[15:42] <om26er> kelli: so you updated to karmic from jaunty?
[15:42] <kelli> as many as i can philh
[15:42] <san123> philh, sorry what are the comand for it? as i said i am new i donot know commands
[15:42] <bradland> MrKlown: developing software for ubuntu?
[15:42] <philh> kelli, why? do you use a lot of obscure formats?
[15:42] <martianixor> hi, I need help to figure out why would sound suddenly stop functioning this is ubuntu 9.04 2.6.28-16-generic x86_64bit on an HP pavilion dv6 with Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.21, I'm a bit lost don't know where to begin troubleshooting this, dmesg doesn't mention anything about the problem
[15:43] <philh> san123, your guess is as good as mine, i'm not using pulse or 9.10
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> kelli:  install the w32codec pack from medibuntu repos and you can play most anything.  and use mplayer an/or d vlc also helps a lot.
[15:43] <MrKlown> bradland, no i am looking for a certain software that is like frostwire, only not software because software is bugged for 9.10
[15:43] <kelli> its from down loads
[15:43] <JonathanEllis> Dr_Willis: The desktop has a matrox G200 card but the same problem is there on both the onboard intel adapter and the Matrox. It makes no difference which graphics adapter I use. The last release I had working correctly was Hardy but there the wifi wont work properly on my laptop
[15:43] <MrKlown> only not frostwire i mean, sorry, typo
[15:43] <bradland> MrKlown: ah, i see. this is probably the best place for it then
[15:43] <san123> philh, so you dont know comands fori t?
[15:43] <om26er> martianixor: this link might work for you might.  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-no-sound-sound-blaster-audigy-after-upgrading-from-ubuntu-9-04-to-9-10.html
[15:43] <MrKlown> you know of any p2p clients like frostwire, that may use the same network or a similar network brad?
[15:44] <martianixor> om26er: thanks I'll check it :-)
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> JonathanEllis:  ive not even seen a matrox card in years. :)
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> MrKlown:  theres lots of p2p clients for that network
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> !p2p
[15:44] <MrKlown> oh bless you Dr_Willis
[15:44] <spanther> Good evening! :) Is there any way to play rented BluRay's inside of Ubuntu? :)
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> MrKlown:  i just use torrents niow a days :)
[15:44] <kelli> Dr_Willis, how do i go about installing w32codec pack?
[15:44] <Catwoman69y2k> Morning!
[15:44] <lilyshu> MrKlown : vuze
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> kelli:  i follow the directions at the medibuntu web site..  add the repo.. install the package
[15:44] <philh> san123, no, sorry, someone else here probably does, though
[15:44] <MrKlown> torrents are ok but i still prefer p2p for some reason
[15:45] <san123> anyone please help! no sound in flash firefox  using ubuntu 9.10 karmic koala
[15:45] <MrKlown> vuze is too resource heavy, i may try gnutella
[15:45] <philh> san123, ah, maybe pavucontrol
[15:45] <martianixor> om26er: you had the same issue?
[15:45] <JonathanEllis> Dr_Willis: I got given it to use twin monitors. I havent even begun to work out how to configure dual monitors in Karmic - that doesnt work either. Honestly am I wasting my time? Is Hardy as good as its ever going to be? I couldnt even get the liveCDs from any release after that to display properly
[15:45] <san123> na!
[15:45] <martianixor> om26er: had the same laptop?
[15:45] <om26er> kelli: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[15:45] <lilyshu> MrKlown : try to use old interface in vuze.
[15:45] <rd> i am geting to hate ubuntu 9.10
[15:46] <om26er> martianixor: no i gave this link to someone else
[15:46] <Catwoman69y2k> Anyone know how ot set up samba between 2 ubuntu machines so that you write to particular directories as one user but write as a different user with a second share/directory? I know that this is probably a samba thing (but I have had no luck with the #samba channels).
[15:46] <alan___> hi again, i rebooted but still have no wireless connection, can anyone help before i finally give up please?
[15:46] <preetam> please help me in changing the login screen in ubuntu 9.10
[15:46] <spanther> rd why?
[15:46] <MrKlown> alright lily
[15:46] <vojacekj> hi
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> JonathanEllis:  no idea on how much better it will get at old hardware. Ive tossed out most of my old stuff now a days.
[15:46] <philh> MrKlown, what's wrong with frostwire?
[15:46] <CarlFK> how do I tell what package the supplies the host command?
[15:46] <rd> not only it fu,,ed up mu opensuse boot config ,itss very unstable and buggyt
[15:46] <MrKlown> my problem with frostwire, while i do love it, is the simple fact that it gets stuck in the task tray and crashes
[15:46] <bradland> Catwoman69y2k: i'm not sure you can connect as two different users to two different shares on the same machine using samba
[15:46] <vojacekj> how i can disable acpi on ubuntu 9.10?
[15:46] <san123> no sound only video in all youtube vids(firefox) i installed flash player and rebooted  system still cant !
[15:47] <spanther> rd, that's mainly because it's out very new! :)
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> Catwoman69y2k:  tyheres books on 'samba' in html format in the repositories that proberly give details on doing that.
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc
[15:47] <rd> its kde desktop is worst
[15:47] <philh> MrKlown, ah, oh dear
[15:47] <lilyshu> !who | MrKlown
[15:47] <shane2peru> General error MOunting Filesystems, A maintenance shell will now be started, CTR-D will terminate shell <--- this is the error when trying to get the boot menu
[15:47] <rd> new???
[15:47] <rd> vista was new but not this bad
[15:47] <Catwoman69y2k> Rats.  Yeah, I tried force user in my smb.conf but it still only reads the force user I set up for the home directories
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> Catwoman69y2k:  for linux to linux - you may want to look into using sshfs, or nfs as an alterantive to samba
[15:47] <JonathanEllis> Dr_Willis: I understood one of the reasons for using linux instead of windows was to escape the constant need to buy new hardware. I cant afford to replace both computers
[15:47] <vojacekj> i have problem with shuting down my pc?
[15:47] <san123> Hey! guyz! please help no sound in firefox
[15:47] <Vinceman> my keyboard is all mixed up, how can I fix this?
[15:47] <rd> i cant type shit in kde
[15:47] <spanther> rd, 9.10 is out very close :) and it isn't vista. ubuntu is a collection of mostly stabilized beta packages to have best newest support for hardware and software :)
[15:47] <rd> just gnome works
[15:48] <om26er> !help | san123
[15:48] <philh> rd, alas this is the result of ubuntu being released predictably every 6 months, whether it's finished or not :-\
[15:48] <Vinceman> how many of you have upgraded to 9.10?
[15:48] <rd> so why not opensuse?
[15:48] <alan___> its a Dell inspiron 1300 broadcomm wireless card but cant get it to see it
[15:48] <stimpie> JonathanEllis, ubuntu!=linux
[15:48] <vojacekj> can somebody help me?
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> JonathanEllis:  the older stuff is - the less there are people to test it. so its a never ending cycle.
[15:48] <mastermind1> Guys i need another help
[15:48] <bradland> rd: so we can assume you're in gnome now based on your use of the explicative
[15:48] <tarzeau> rd: you can't upgrade between releases
[15:48] <om26er> !repeat
[15:48] <eurythmia> I have a music collection, and for some reason Banshee decided that it doesn't want to play certain files, but it just silently ignores them and puts an 'X' next to their name without giving me any more information. The files play with mpg321, so it's not a codec issue. How do I find out why they are not playing?
[15:48] <Catwoman69y2k> Yeah, we tried nfs but it wasnt making sense to me
[15:48] <rd> its very much more stable and the same version of soft as ubuntu
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> JonathanEllis:  there are other disrtos with focus on old machines.
[15:48] <knightrage> are ubuntu packages (from the pkg mngr) binaries? ie, is there a lot of time wasted compiled sources like distro X?
[15:48] <spanther> rd, opensuse points "more" at stability but less at newest support :)
[15:48] <aupa_Athletic> help for tdt usb pinnacle pctv 70e
[15:48] <aupa_Athletic> ¿?
[15:48] <martianixor> om26er: you might be interested, those multimedia touchkeys work except that the audio mute touchkey didn't have a keycode so I did dumpkeys found 120 empty then I did, setkeycode e014 120 as recommended by dmesg to make it known still Its color go from white to Red, any idea how to go about changing this behavior?
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> Catwoman69y2k:  nfs is easier in ways to set up then samba
[15:48] <tarzeau> eurythmia: start banshee from a terminal? and watch if it says something?
[15:48] <rd> even thier personal archives are more stable than oficial release of ubuntu
[15:48] <jgonick> JonathanEllis, I had a similar problem and finally ended up manually editing the xorg.conf file.  It was a pain but doable.  I was using Xubuntu.
[15:49] <vojacekj> hallo how to turn off acpi?
[15:49] <Catwoman69y2k> Well, where would I start looking?
[15:49] <eurythmia> knightrage, *.deb packages are precompiled binaries, but, like rpm, source packages are also available if you would like to compile from source.
[15:49] <JonathanEllis> Dr_Willis: Trouble is I have got to like the Ubuntu user interface. Hardy worked fine but some packages are not available there
[15:49] <martianixor> om26er: to be honest I didn't google that yet
[15:49] <eurythmia> tarelerulz, good idea. I'll try that, thanks.
[15:49] <mastermind1> can u tell me good software for web designing on ubuntu
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> Catwoman69y2k:  for nfs? theres the official ubuntu nfs wiki page.. or for samba. check the samba-docs
[15:49] <rd> now can anoone tell my how to get keyboard woking in kde?
[15:49] <spanther> rd, well there's nothing other i could tell you so far :( but for me ubuntu 9.10 runs fine so far (tested since release)
[15:49] <JonathanEllis> jgonick: xorg is no help. In fact xorg is not used in 9.10 by default
[15:49] <rd> now can anoone tell my how to get keyboard woking in kde?
[15:50] <tarzeau> rd: stop repeating?
[15:50] <om26er> martianixor: i am just a user. i am not a developer or anything near development
[15:50] <rd> ok
[15:50] <Catwoman69y2k> Yeah, I especially want to be careful since i want a share for the server's home directory, but also one to the /var/www folder
[15:50] <mastermind1> can u tell me good software for web designing on ubuntu
[15:50] <om26er> just a user
[15:50] <sebsebseb> JonathanEllis:  jgonick    of course xorg is used in 9.10 by default
[15:50] <tarzeau> mastermind1: kompozer? or any $EDITOR ?
[15:50] <Catwoman69y2k> Does NFS have any GUI tools?
[15:50] <joeyeye> JonathanEllis, are you still having the display driver issue ?
[15:50] <tarzeau> Catwoman69y2k: no
[15:50] <mastermind1> can u tell me good software for web designing on ubuntu plz i want to design in php
[15:50] <san123> om26er, no sound in firefox please help
[15:50] <tarzeau> Catwoman69y2k: you just add one line to /etc/exports and run exportfs -rv
[15:50] <rd> my kde destop windows has no border and no close or minimize button
[15:50] <om26er> Catwoman69y2k: gparted
[15:50] <tarzeau> Catwoman69y2k: that's NFS, very easy
[15:51] <aupa_Athletic> help for tdt usb pinnacle pctv 70e
[15:51] <aupa_Athletic> ¿?
[15:51] <om26er> Catwoman69y2k: first sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[15:51] <sebsebseb> !php |  mastermind1
[15:51] <JonathanEllis> mastermind1: Screem or Quanta are supposed to be easy but I havent used either.
[15:51] <philh> san123, did you run the pulseaudio volume control applet?
[15:51] <eurythmia> tarelerulz, weird ... I closed banshee and started it back up, and the files worked ... maybe the codec installer required Banshee to be restarted before the new codecs would work. Thanks.
[15:51] <alan___> i guess i give up, this is too complicated for a novice, shame as apart from no wireless, it looks excellent
[15:51] <sebsebseb> !html |  mastermind1
[15:51] <rd> my kde desktop windows have no borderrs or minimize or close button
[15:51] <san123> philh, no none gave me command for it
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> om26er:  she said nfs. not ntfs. :)
[15:51] <philh> san123, i did
[15:51] <san123> ?
[15:51] <philh> san123, ah, maybe pavucontrol
[15:51] <tarzeau> rd: can't you stop repeating?
[15:51] <mastermind1> i need some thing like DW i am used to it in windows
[15:51] <san123> no thta dint work
[15:51] <om26er> Dr_Willis: ok mistake
[15:51] <martianixor> om26er: OK sorry, thanks for help it's greatly appreciated :-)
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> om26er:  :)
[15:52] <JonathanEllis> sebsebseb: I meant xorg.conf has been deprecated. A fresh install of 9.10 does not have a xorg.conf file
[15:52] <philh> alan___, did you try searching for the package mentioned in synaptic?
[15:52] <om26er> !nfs
[15:52] <philh> and then installing from there
[15:52] <Catwoman69y2k> and I would use /etc/rc.local if I wanted exportfs -rv to activate automatically
[15:52] <Catwoman69y2k> right?
[15:52] <renegarcia> rd: check if kwin is working
[15:52] <philh> if the command line interface worries you, synaptic might help
[15:52] <user101> on karmic when i issue speaker-test -c6 -twav I hear rear left and right very weak and nothing for LFE.
[15:52] <user101> why???
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> Catwoman69y2k:  its a service.. you install it - it will start.. and stuff gets mounted from /etc/fstab
[15:52] <dassouki> what's the simplest way to add an ftps user ?
[15:52] <adrn> san123 -- if you try "webpage" about: plugins     that will at least tell you what plugins Firefox is actually recognizing
[15:53] <alan___> PHIL H   I pasted that command in terminal, accepted YES and it still no good
[15:53] <Catwoman69y2k> and I need to install ntfsprogs on both machines, right?
[15:53] <user101> and even on connecting headphones speaker only speaks
[15:53] <martianixor> Catwoman69y2k: I think you need some file under /etc/event.d/ for that not rc-local under ubuntu, someone correct me if I'm wrong
[15:53] <philh> alan___, still no good after doing what?
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> Catwoman69y2k:  or for some quick shareing/access/transfers - you can use sshfs
[15:53] <stimpie> dassouki, install ssh server and every user has ftps
[15:53] <JonathanEllis> joeyeye: Yes I am getting nowhere fast with google. Lots of people have solved their problem by removing compiz but that hasnt worked for me. The annoying thing is that worked until I copied in xorg.conf. Then when I deleted xorg.conf to try to get back to how it was before I had all the problems we talked about yesterday.
[15:53] <nsahoo> how do I install firefox-3.6 ? is there a repository for that?
[15:53] <freddie-34> I am a Ubuntu 9.10 newbie and am trying to create a link to my Windows XP PC Canon Pixma iP5200 printer. Message is 'unable to mount Windows share'
[15:53] <san123> adrn, dint got you
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> Catwoman69y2k:  ntfs is not nfs.. forget about ntfsprogs :)
[15:53] <tom-delong> hi
[15:53] <davidgray> can anyone help me out installing aircraft-manager on my mini 9? https://launchpad.net/~opensource-subakutty/+archive/ppa/
[15:53] <davidgray> would be greatly appreciated
[15:53] <tom-delong> i think there is a problem with the ubuntu repos
[15:53] <tom-delong> i can't install openjdk-6-jre
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> !nfs | Catwoman69y2k
[15:53] <rd> nobody here uses kde ubuntu 9.10???
[15:53] <alan___> no can only use this dongle, no wireless card recognised
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> Catwoman69y2k:  takes about 5-10 min to get nfs going :)
[15:54] <tarzeau> rd: i'm using windowmaker
[15:54] <BenG92> can someone change this script: http://pastebin.com/d5f06102c that gives this error: http://pastebin.com/d49abfe95 to make it not give the error? the file its asking for is on the desktop
[15:54] <xukun_> I would like to make image of my windows vista partition of /dev/sda1 to /dev/sdb1/image.file. and then maybe one restore if my windows brakes. is this possible?
[15:54] <om26er> nsahoo: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox-3.6
[15:54] <Catwoman69y2k> Ah, okay....so which things am I installing if not ntfsprogs?
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> xukun_:  yes. theres various ways to image a partiion
[15:54] <Catwoman69y2k> I thought ntfs was a hard drive system...thats why that confused me
[15:54] <knightrage> eurythmia, great. one more thing... if im running amd64 should i install 64-bit ubuntu? i've been using 64bit gentoo for awhile now without any problems (so i know my hardware is compatible), but i dont know if there are any big downsides to 64bit, like lack of support or less software options available
[15:54] <tom-delong> i can't install openjdk-6-jre
[15:54] <stimpie> BenG92, unkown postid
[15:54] <tom-delong> does it work for you?
[15:54] <philh> alan___, what did you do after installing the package?
[15:54] <rd> window maker>???what is that?
[15:54] <BenG92> urgh ok, il reupload
[15:54] <cxo> I did an upgrade to 9.10 from a very old 8.04 box and I have a zillion choices now during bootup. How do I remove the ones I don't use/need?
[15:55] <Vinceman> are you allowed to have a windows keyboard when you use linux?
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> Catwoman69y2k:  read that nfs wiki page.
[15:55] <tarzeau> Vinceman: yes
[15:55] <rd> i uwant to be able to use kde .plain and simple
[15:55] <om26er> !nfs | Catwoman69y2k
[15:55] <stimpie> rd, a window manager
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> I sand off the windows logos on my keyboards. :)
[15:55] <rd> but its windows have no border
[15:55] <alan___> philh    I rebooted
[15:55] <lilyshu> tom-delong : try other mirror.
[15:55] <om26er> great
[15:55] <tarzeau> rd: try removing/renaming your .kde folder in your home
[15:55] <alan___> i really am a novice with not much idea
[15:55] <Vinceman> maybe in la Suisse, but is that everywhere, tarzeau?
[15:55] <tom-delong> lilyshu, ok
[15:55] <shane2peru> no one had problems with grub2 not booting, not even loading?
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> rd:  and/or test with a newly made user.
[15:55] <rd> tarzeau: it was new , so i doubt that would work
[15:56] <vojacekj> hi
[15:56] <xukun_> Dr_Willis, would you mind helping with this?. I would greatly thankful
[15:56] <kelli> i'm new here and need help setting up video player
[15:56] <tarzeau> Vinceman: why should you  not be allowed to use a keybaord with windows keys?
[15:56] <Iceman> is there anybody here with some understanding of how the kernel handles CPU heat management in ubuntu? I seem to have a problem...
[15:56] <tarzeau> Vinceman: i use an apple mac keyboard, so ?
[15:56] <om26er> rd: and you system might not run on the nextboot. happened to me oce
[15:56] <Vinceman> tarzeau, isn't windows the enemy nr. 1 of linux?
[15:56] <vojacekj> i have problem with acpi under ubuntu 9.1
[15:56] <tarzeau> Vinceman: i also use keyboards in other countries
[15:56] <tarzeau> Vinceman: no it's not
[15:56] <Catwoman69y2k> Oh, and one of my machines uses KDE (instead of gnome).  I already have kdenetwork-filesharing on
[15:56] <rd> tarzeau:and my keyboard doent work in kde ,b ut works in gnome
[15:56] <tarzeau> Vinceman: microsoft doesn't want windows on netbook computers, neither do they want computing servers, or internet server stuff
[15:56] <stimpie> Vinceman, its the other way arround ;-)
[15:56] <joeyeye> JonathanEllis, so what state are you in now  ?
[15:56] <tom-delong> lilyshu, but it still doesn't work
[15:56] <Catwoman69y2k> I doubt that would help, right?
[15:56] <nsahoo> om26er: thanks
[15:56] <eyalw> Hi, I get "Manual page not found" for "man 2 chdir" on Ubuntu, anyone knows why?
[15:57] <tarzeau> rd: interesting, and why do you not want to use gnome?
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> xukun_:  Ijust use the dd command.  theres partimage also i recall. I rarely image partitions.
[15:57] <user101> Karmic doesn't shut down at all till i press power off. It stops at deactivating swap......
[15:57] <Iceman> vojacekj: were you talking to me? my problem might indeed be related to acpi
[15:57] <ArchType> Hello there. Where can I download ubuntu 9.4 ? Since ubunt 9.10 uses some kind of device kit half of hardware for my laptop is for crap!
[15:57] <joky> hello all...
[15:57] <lilyshu> Iceman : do you try Main Server?
[15:57] <Pici> eyalw: You need to install the manpages-dev package first.
[15:57] <joky> can someone help me about the flash player debug version for firefox?
[15:57] <trism> ArchType: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> !download | ArchType
[15:57] <eyalw> Pici: thanks
[15:57] <joky> when i use the flash installer provided by adobe it works
[15:57] <Iceman> lilyshu: what do you mean?
[15:57] <rd> tarzeau: i like kde
[15:57] <joel__> ArchType: Try the official website
[15:57] <philh> alan___, i'm afraid i have no experience of this card, maybe http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1150771 is in some way relevant
[15:57] <tarzeau> rd: i'm glad i don't. sorry i can't help you
[15:57] <vojacekj> i have problem with acpi
[15:57] <Vinceman> anyway, I used to be able to pull tricks with my windows key but this has changed now, how can I get it back?
[15:57] <nsahoo> om26er: what does ppa mean?
[15:57] <lilyshu> tom-delong : do you try Main Server?
[15:57] <rd> tarzeau: and i hate gnome
[15:58] <Vinceman> stimpie tarzeau=
[15:58] <joky> but bwhen firefox restart, the player is no longer the debug one but the classic
[15:58] <kelli> what program can i use to be able to see the most video formats?
[15:58] <BenG92> Stimpie script: http://pastebin.com/m75884b98 error: http://pastebin.com/m6fbd94e9
[15:58] <joel__> ArchType: I agree with you. My Mobile Broadband device totally screwed up with this update
[15:58] <lilyshu> Iceman : sorry, wrong mentions :)
[15:58] <om26er> personal package archive
[15:58] <erUSUL> kelli: vlc
[15:58] <tarzeau> rd: i'm glad i don't use gnome either :)
[15:58] <rd> tarzeau: np
[15:58] <om26er> !ppa
[15:58] <adrn> san123 -- manually enter the URL in the Firefox address bar    about:plugins       and a full listing will appear.  You can't actually do any configuration there, but at least you can see what you've got (or not got).
[15:58] <rd> anybody here that can help me out?
[15:58] <Iceman> so, can anybody help my about my heat problem?
[15:58] <Vinceman> ArchType, did you upgrade to 9.10 too?
[15:58] <om26er> !help | rd
[15:58] <xukun_> Dr_Willis, I will google around some more. Thanks
[15:58] <tarzeau> rd: it's a ps/2 or usb keyboard? did you fiddle in the kde keyboard settings?
[15:58] <san123> hey guyz i m having some problem with sound
[15:58] <tom-delong> lilyshu, yes
[15:58] <tarzeau> rd: num lock works, but all other keys don't?
[15:58] <san123> i cant play 2 things at once
[15:58] <rd> its getting to the point of abandaiong ubutnu
[15:58] <ArchType> Vinceman: no clean install
[15:59] <om26er> san123: try one from adobe then
[15:59] <tom-delong> does it work for you if you type sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre ?
[15:59] <rd> yes
[15:59] <san123> when i closed m amarok player youtube vids started voice
[15:59] <om26er> mean from their site
[15:59] <tarzeau> rd: as i told you before, try mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.bk
[15:59] <tom-delong> it seems that tzdata is a wrong version for this package
[15:59] <stimpie> BenG92, sounds like a dns issue
[15:59] <san123> then when i started player it showed me some sound error
[15:59] <tarzeau> rd: then start kde again
[15:59] <erUSUL> kelli: just go to Aplications>Add Remove  search for it and intall
[15:59] <rd> tarzeau: i can type in firefox but not in search panel or konversation
[15:59] <san123> can u tell me some site to upload image?
[15:59] <JonathanEllis> joeyeye: Apart from frustrated and reaching for my Hardy CD? :-) Desktop machine still has torn and blurred graphics whether I use the onboard intel graphics adapter or my matrox G200. Laptop has some weird shadow left from the notification area which obsures part of firefox. Yesterday we copied xorg.conf back to /etc/X11 and commented all the xinerama stuff out so I have a bog standard xorg.conf but still have problems.
[15:59] <philh> san123, does this happen with anything other than amarok?
[15:59] <lilyshu> tom-delong : sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[15:59] <rd> tarzeau: i have statred it many times
[15:59] <patcito> hey
[15:59] <stimpie> BenG92, does 'ping downloads.openwrt.org' work?
[15:59] <san123> i dont hav many softwares
[15:59] <om26er> san123: imageshack.us
[15:59] <BenG92> stimpie its a networkless machine, and that script was written to help get my wireless card working
[15:59] <tarzeau> rd: so that's not a keyboard problem if it part times works and some places not
[15:59] <rd> tarzeau: and with different users
[15:59] <om26er> san123: w8
[15:59] <rd> tarzeau:yes
[15:59] <ArchType> Vinceman: and I posted on forums but everyone ignores it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1311685 if at least they would tell me what info do I have to supply!
[16:00] <stimpie> BenG92, that script needs a network connection
[16:00] <om26er> san123: imagebin
[16:00] <patcito> shouldn't #ubuntu+1 be reponed? if lucid repos are open now :)
[16:00] <om26er> san123: imagebin.org
[16:00] <joky> if some one can help me with flash player debug, msg me... :=)
[16:00] <om26er> !imagebin
[16:00] <rd> tarzeau: but i am sure its kde related because all does apps work in gnome
[16:00] <BenG92> stimpie can you write one where I can get the correct files before hand, and save them to my computer where it can read them from there?
[16:00] <tarzeau> rd: i have absolutely no idea
[16:00] <tom-delong> lilyshu, but i need the openjdk
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> some days i think we need a #ubuntu-flash-troubleshooting
[16:00] <tarzeau> joky: does your ff keep crashing?
[16:00] <Iceman> is anybody listening? can you hear me when I call? I'm shooting signals in the air, 'cause I need somebody's help! Is anybody listening? (listeniiing)
[16:00] <stimpie> BenG92, no time sorry
[16:00] <tarzeau> joky: 32 or 64bit linux? and which version of ff?
[16:01] <Dr_Willis> Iceman:  i got you on ignore now.. does that count? :)
[16:01] <BenG92> ok thanks stimpie
[16:01] <BenG92> Jordan_U
[16:01] <joky> @tarzau : ubuntu 9.10 32bits
[16:01] <joky> firefox does not keep the debug version
[16:01] <tarzeau> is there anyone else in here from switzerland? zurich?
[16:01] <lilyshu> tom-delong : idk much bout openJDk, i only know there's some applets that won't open with openjdk.
[16:01] <joky> after reboot the no degub player is back
[16:02]  * Catwoman69y2k is totally baffled and confused
[16:02]  * om26er says google is also help web site
[16:02] <Xcell> patcito-   is it you thats running xfce?
[16:02] <ascheel> In Karmic, how do I choose which logins show in the main login window to gdm?  There are a few utility logins that I use that I don't want in that list.
[16:02] <patcito> Xcell: no
[16:02] <Xcell> ok
[16:02] <tarzeau> joky: no don't msg me, my irssi already looks like:  [17:0 [Act: 3,5,6,7,8,9,12,13,16,17,18,19,21,30,32,35,36,37,41,42,43,44,57,58,61,63,68,70,72,73,78,80,83,84,85,86,90,91,93,96,97,99,100,102,103,105,108,112,113,114,115]
[16:03] <axisys> anyone know exact name of the ubuntu classroom channel ? #ubuntu-classroom did not work
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> ascheel:  ive not figured out how to do that yet either.
[16:03] <joky> tarzeau: xcuze me :)
[16:03] <Xcell> some one wanted to know how to not have compiz boot on startup
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> ascheel:  gdm is a total rewrite for 9.10 so some fetures may be lacking or config tools not avail yet
[16:03] <ascheel> Dr_Willis: If I find out, I'll say something in here.
[16:03] <ascheel> gotcha, Dr.
[16:03] <Pici> axisys: #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat are the proper channel names.
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> ascheel:  i just set it to autolog in as my main user anyway these days :)
[16:04] <adrn> san123 -- the new version of Amarok does not seem to share sound.  1.4 played while I was playing WoW via WINE -- 2.x does NOT.  Try Exaile.
[16:04] <axisys> Pici: thanks.. i guess i had a typo.
[16:04] <Amigadude> yeah! 1 down 2 to go... next 9.10 problem... no trackpad on Acer Aspire One
[16:04] <kelli> unable to play swf videos
[16:04] <trism> ascheel: the only thing I figured out how to do was hide all the user names, not individual ones
[16:04] <natbet> is there any way to move the indicator applet notifications?
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> Amigadude:  id like to test 9.10 on my AAO.. but the wife took it :)
[16:04] <tarzeau> Amigadude: you used to have an amiga?
[16:05] <lilyshu> adrn : maybe you need to install xine :)
[16:05] <yaaar> howdy
[16:05] <Amigadude> tarelerulz: still have a few
[16:05] <Xcell> adrn-  i installed amarok 1.4 on karmic... works great
[16:05] <tarzeau> Amigadude: i saw a 500 running linux once :)
[16:05] <philh> Amigadude, are the eeebuntu modifications relevant to the aspire one?
[16:06] <yaaar> what's a quick way to check the TTL of a domain?
[16:06] <tarzeau> yaaar: ping it
[16:06] <seb2> K3rl0u4rn: Which file got an extra trailing s ?
[16:06] <tarzeau> yaaar: then traceroute it
[16:06] <jgonick> Dr_Willis: Do you know of any way to customize desktop sound effects.. or is that lacking in the gdm?
[16:06] <aupa_Athletic> help for my pinnacle tdt usb ??
[16:06] <Vinceman> btw stimpie, does linux have no enemies at all then?
[16:06] <alexgee> linux is fast because most hackers build their machines from old parts :D
[16:06] <user101> Karmic doesn't shut down at all till i press power off. It stops at deactivating swap......
[16:06] <kelli> how can i go about playing swf videos?
[16:06] <tarzeau> alexgee: not sure if most hackers do it that way?
[16:06] <tarzeau> alexgee: do you have any studies about that?
[16:06] <philh> kelli, swf videos meaning what? flash applets embedded in webpages?
[16:07] <m0Rre> where are python's build in functions.. i'd like to take a look at the source...
[16:07] <lilyshu> kelli : you can play it with firefox.
[16:07] <Dr_Willis> jgonick:  gdm starts as its own user (called gdm) you can sort of tweak some things it does by running the gnome control panel tools as the gdm user.. but that can also screw things up
[16:07] <philh> kelli, look for flash in the add/remove programs interface for that
[16:07] <yaaar> tarzeau: i'm not sure we're talking about the same thing...i'm looking for the TTL of the zone; like, how long DNS takes to propogate
[16:07] <Amigadude> Dr_Willis: upgrade from 9.04 netbook remix to 9.10 has crippled vga speed, killed the ability to enable "Hardware Drivers" (STA Broadcom) & killed the trackpad
[16:07] <kelli> yes philh
[16:07] <JonathanEllis1> joeyeye: Sorry. Laptop crashed. I dont know if you sent another message
[16:07] <adrn> When Amarok 2.x came out, i tried all the other players.  Anyway, isn't xine a backend?
[16:07] <bro> alexgee and tarzeau: faster is better
[16:07] <alexgee> tarz: i'm just proliferating stereotypical memes ;)
[16:07] <philh> kelli, install flash player
[16:07] <yaaar> tarzeau: also, the host i'm looking at doesn't respond to pings or traces
[16:07] <kelli> lilyshu, no it wont work
[16:07] <tarzeau> yaaar: oh yes that's a different thing. you can check w/ host -la domain.com
[16:07] <trism> m0Rre: just download the python source, it is all in there
[16:08] <tarzeau> yaaar: that's bad
[16:08] <stimpie> Vinceman, software patents might be
[16:08] <yaaar> tarzeau: sweet
[16:08] <om26er1> yaaar: what does yaaar mean?
[16:08] <yaaar> tarzeau: yeah, at some point i'll hassle this guy to get an ACL into his PIX so i can ping him....
[16:08]  * stimpie is a pirate, yaaar
[16:08] <alexgee> but there's definitely more incentive to upgrade hardware on windows because it
[16:08] <alexgee> it's always slow
[16:09] <bro> yaaar: dig it? (dig -x domain.com)
[16:09] <jgonick> Dr_Willis: So right now with Karmic, there is no easy wat to customize sound effects. correct?
[16:09] <stimpie> alexgee, regular reinstalls of windows do help
[16:09] <wiehan> Hi, my banshee stopped working a couple of weeks ago - it just goes grey and nothing ever happens. I really don't care about that, I just want to get my awesome playlists from banshee before I format for 9.10 (I want to). I never exported or saved my playlists elsewhere. Please help. this is hours worth of work that you can save me from creating my playlists over.
[16:09] <alexgee> and mac users well... if its not the most recent mac thingy gadget or laptop they will be judged by their fellow macfans
[16:09] <erisvaldo> Ola boa tarde a todos
[16:09] <Vinceman> how is the spring in the southern hemisphere now?
[16:09] <Vinceman> sry
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> jgonick:  no idea.i always turn them off. :)
[16:09] <yaaar> om26er1: i think i originally picked yaaar just as sort of a gutteral frustration noise; i used to be arg, but i got a lot of false-positives from arg() and the like
[16:09] <stimpie> alexgee, but they are very cool
[16:09] <alexgee> so in the case of mac users speed is seldom a factor
[16:09] <Amigadude> I run OSX on my ASpire One :)
[16:10] <kelli> flash player is installed and it still dose not work
[16:10] <alexgee> amigadude: haha nice
[16:10] <joeyeye> JonathanEllis, I was asking what state is your computer now  ?
[16:10] <bro> alexgee: mac user here. 2007 macbook pro and powerbook g4 does the same things when it comes to coding. compiling takes quite a while on pb
[16:10] <user101> Karmic doesn't shut down at all till i press power off. It stops at deactivating swap......
[16:10] <user101> so many bugs??
[16:10] <freddie-34>  This is a bit like being in a pub, everyone talking over you and not giving clear answers!
[16:10] <bro> user101: how big is your swap space?
[16:10] <erisvaldo> qual eo irc do ubuntu em portugues
[16:10] <ncfi1013_> what driver should i use for the nvidia 9400 geforce evga?
[16:11] <stimpie> freddie-34, it might help if you buy some beers ;-)
[16:11] <user101> bro : 1 GB
[16:11] <bro> ncfi1013_: look for envyng
[16:11] <yaaar> bro; man, how'd i miss that? i just read through that man page looking for such an option. thanks
[16:11] <philh> freddie-34, yep, ubuntu probably needs half a dozen consulting rooms(channels) to reduce noise levels
[16:11] <freddie-34> Join the gang on Friday evening ... who's driving?
[16:11] <AOC> hey I'm trying to add the words to "hello world" to file.txt
[16:11] <AOC> can I not do this with a cat redirection?
[16:12] <ncfi1013_> bro: envyng?
[16:12] <om26er1> kelli: try this http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_10_linux.deb might work
[16:12] <trism> AOC: echo "hello world" >> file.txt
[16:12] <bro> yaaar: it's alright.
[16:12] <bro> AOC: echo "hello world" >> fo;e
[16:12] <rcp> hi guys, im getting an error when shutting down: 6600681311 buffer IO error on device loop 0 logical block 332904903 - does anyone know what this is?
[16:12] <bro> AOC: echo "hello world" >> file
[16:12] <alexgee> bro: i don't notice a big difference in OS speed between my G5 power mac and quad xeon .. but can definitely do a lot more in logic audio and final cut lol
[16:12] <philh> kelli, did you try looking in synaptic for flash?
[16:12] <smurfslover> hi there i just installed kubuntu karmic now how do i get ndiswrapper to get my wireless working
[16:12] <mikey_> Hi there. I was wondering if anyone knew how to compile the old style notification daemon theme? (I'm not actually using ubuntu but am interested in the curved "bubble" notifications that intrepid and hardy had)
[16:12] <AOC> bro, thanks
[16:12] <user101> rcp i have same problem
[16:12] <kelli> yes philh
[16:13] <user101> I think this is serious
[16:13] <philh> kelli, and what happened?
[16:13] <rcp> user01 interesting.
[16:13] <user101> Karmic has shutdown problem
[16:13] <rcp> its just come on after i did an upgrade to 903
[16:13] <rcp> 9.03
[16:13] <user101> can someone raise a ticket for this
[16:13] <bro> alexgee: protools doesn't make a difference. i can still track down 32 channels audio in power mac g5 dual :) yeap, using effects makes a huge difference between power g5 and mac pro
[16:13] <bro> ncfi1013_: search for i
[16:13] <bro> ncfi1013_: search for it
[16:13] <alexgee> karmic must reboot after update problem.. lol
[16:13] <Cantide> I'm running 9.04 and I have no shutdown problem .-.
[16:13] <vojacekj> i have problem with acpi
[16:14] <alexgee> bro: yeah but protools runs on the digiface's dsps or something right?
[16:14] <vojacekj> how to turn off acpi
[16:14] <user101> alexgee : what do u mean
[16:14] <kelli> philh,  can i pm
[16:14] <ncfi1013_> bro: is that the correct spelling?
[16:14] <philh> kelli, sure
[16:14] <vojacekj> under xubuntu 9.10
[16:14] <loyds> I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 onto my PC and used the encrypted home directory option. Is my swap encrypted?
[16:14] <JonathanEllis1> joeyeye: OK. Thanks. Concentrating on my desktop machine for now (laptop also has graphics problems but less). I have googled "ubuntu 9.10 Dell Dimension 2400" and found a lot of people who solved their borked graphics by removing compiz. I did that and got the system working on one screen before copying in xorg.conf and thats where my problems began again. We copied xorg.conf back to /etc/X11 yesterday and I commented out all the lines to do with
[16:14] <user101> vojacekj : add noacpi in grub
[16:14] <Catwoman69y2k> http://wwwIm trying to run nfs kernel daemon and when I give the start commend, it simply hangs
[16:14] <vojacekj> but how?
[16:14] <loyds> I'm worried that my home directory encryption will be made useless by my 3GB swap partition.
[16:14] <philh> smurfslover, does the software centre not have an entry for ndiswrapper?
[16:15] <aupa_Athletic> help for my pinnacle tdt usb ??
[16:15] <Catwoman69y2k> My exports file is completely commented out at this point
[16:15] <bro> alexgee: yeah, it does. logic needs some dsp power as well at some point. i have logic working on my unibody macbook pro 2.4 with 4GB ram, still needs more
[16:15] <bro> ncfi1013_: sudo apt-cache search envy
[16:15] <Amigadude> anyone know where to start finding the problem with my trackpad?
[16:15] <smurfslover> philh: kpackagekit is empty i have no working connection right now
[16:15] <bro> ncfi1013_: you'll find what you need
[16:15] <philh> bro, sudo?
[16:15] <alexgee> user101: protools is usually tied to a hardware interface loaded with DSP chips where all the processing takes place.. so the computer's cpu remains free for all the.. .computer stuff
[16:15] <martianixor> OK I got gnome-mixer still I've found all sliders up only pc-beep is muted but when I unmuted it then in a terminal hit the backspace I got a static like sound instead of beep
[16:15] <skillbilly> hi guys
[16:15] <alexgee> k bbl
[16:15] <irv> does anyone know how to re-order groups in empathy
[16:15] <smurfslover> i don't care for a gui just need ndiswrapper and ndiswrapper-utils to be installed
[16:15] <alexgee> bro: i want one hahaha
[16:16] <bro> philh: works without sudo as well. habit
[16:16] <Catwoman69y2k> "Starting NFS kernel daemon"  and it hangs
[16:16] <vojacekj> how i can disable acpi under xubuntu 9.10
[16:16] <rcp> im getting an error when shutting down: 6600681311 buffer IO error on device loop 0 logical block 332904903 - does anyone know what this is?
[16:16] <vojacekj> ?
[16:17] <user101> vojacekj : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=398948
[16:17] <om26er1> !repeat | vojacekj
[16:17] <philh> smurfslover, apt-cache search ndiswrapper
[16:17] <GodfatherofEire> Ok, before I install FGLRX, I want to know if its gonna break my system or not. Anybody know?
[16:17] <philh> though i don't suppose that'll help without a working connection of some sort, can't you plug in somewhere?
[16:17] <wiehan> Can anyone help me get my playlists from a completely dead banshee
[16:17] <Catwoman69y2k> wow, finally nfs-kernel daemon is started.  That took forever
[16:17] <Pici> GodfatherofEire: Only install it if it is offered to you by the hardware manager.
[16:18] <bro> GodfatherofEire: you'll never know
[16:18] <vojacekj> om26er1: what?
[16:18] <GodfatherofEire> Pici, alright
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> vojacekj:  it would be a kernel boot time option. and i dont rember thee details.
[16:18] <Catwoman69y2k> and it still says nfsd is still not running
[16:18] <erUSUL> !flash | kelli
[16:18] <skillbilly> i have a problem: i am sitting on a suse 11 without dvd/cd working and want to boot an ubuntu-installation from an usb stick. i looked for some tutorials on this, but i dont find the informations, which files from the image need to be on the stick. i copied all of them and it didnt work
[16:18] <GodfatherofEire> Pici, well, has FGLRX even fixed the opengl drawing + compiz bug yet?
[16:18] <ncfi1013_> bro: check this and tell me which one is the right one and what i do next: http://pastebin.com/d40e5d45d
[16:18] <om26er1> kelli: http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_10_linux.deb
[16:18] <user101> vojacekj :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[16:19] <Pici> GodfatherofEire: I'm not sure, sorry. My ATI card is no longer supported by it so I'm stuck with the open drivers (which work well with compiz for me)
[16:19] <smurfslover> philh: no can't plugin so maybe i need to download some .deb's and install them manually
[16:19] <Hobart> this the right channel for Ubuntu-netbook-remix related Q/A?
[16:19] <Catwoman69y2k> damn. I think I need NFS over DHCP because we are on a dynamic network
[16:19] <lilyshu> skillbilly : create it with unetbootin
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> Catwoman69y2k:  heres my /etc/exports i just made upfor my home lan.
[16:19] <bro> ncfi1013_: envyng-core should be enought
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> Catwoman69y2k:  pastebinit  /etc/exports
[16:19] <GodfatherofEire> Pici, OpenGL doesnt draw over all other apps for you?
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> http://pastebin.com/f651d2977
[16:19] <hipy> Hello, I need your help. Im desprate.
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> Catwoman69y2k:  for an example
[16:19] <user101> alexgee: so what? shud it hang
[16:19] <setuid> What is the absolute minimum required to make a functional, bootable, Ubuntu system?
[16:19] <JonathanEllis1> !ask |hipy
[16:19] <Pici> GodfatherofEire: Nope, it works great.  On my other ATI computer, fglrx works fine as well.
[16:19] <ncfi1013_> bro: how to install?
[16:19] <setuid> Has anyone actually pared it down to figure it out?
[16:20] <bro> hipy: how can we help you? ask your question
[16:20] <alexgee_> hmm bootscreen was messed up
[16:20] <davidgray> hey guys how do i add wl into etc/modules/
[16:20] <bro> ncfi1013_: sudo apt-get install envyng-core
[16:20] <user101> setuid : humanity
[16:20] <Catwoman69y2k> Dr Willis, only problem is that when our IP changes, than I would have to edit the exports file.  Plus our wireless connection is dynmaic
[16:20] <Catwoman69y2k> dynamic
[16:20] <ncfi1013_> bro: thats it?
[16:20] <vojacekj> user101: but i have grub 2 and there is any menu.lst
[16:20]  * setuid is backing his entire physical system up into a vm, blowing away the physical system, reinstalling a base build, installing vmware and then restoring the data out of the vm into the base physical. 
[16:21] <skillbilly> ﻿lilyshu: ill try it. thx
[16:21] <bro> ncfi1013_: envyng is a nvidia driver installer. then you need to launc it and follow the directions. to lunch it just write 'envyng' on the terminal
[16:21] <smurfslover> and where is karmic's bootloader config there's no menu.lst in /boot/grub
[16:21] <WillieDaPimp> i updated to karmic and now when i reboot it gives me an error about UUID and fstab crap not working the way it should
[16:21]  * cybersplice plays with ubuntu enterprise cloud
[16:21] <JonathanEllis1> setuid: That sounds like a lot of work. Could you not just copy the partitions or files you need to an external hard disk?
[16:21] <smurfslover> and kubuntu's bootloader entry for my pclinuxos doesn't work
[16:22] <irv> does anyone know how to re-order groups in empathy??
[16:22] <patcito> !torrents
[16:22] <JonathanEllis1> !ubuntuone
[16:22] <loyds> I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 onto my PC and used the encrypted home directory option. Is my swap encrypted?
[16:22] <om26er1> !one
[16:22] <om26er1> !uone
[16:22] <om26er1> ok
[16:22] <patcito> !ubuntuone
[16:22] <loyds> !encryptfs
[16:22] <Catwoman69y2k> so I suppose NFS over DHCP is my solution if my IPs are static
[16:22] <Catwoman69y2k> dynamic*
[16:22] <cybersplice> loyds: I  believe it is, yes.
[16:22] <Pici> om26er1: Ubuntu one support is in #ubuntuone
[16:22] <Dmole> anyone got Google wave invites to spare?
[16:23] <om26er1> Pici: i don't want support just checking
[16:23] <snuffy47> made a boo boo and changed the group my admin user belonged too now I can not use sudo command can soneone help please
[16:23] <Catwoman69y2k> Dmole,I have yet to be given invites to give other people
[16:23] <TheCheeze> !ot Dmole
[16:23] <user101> vojacekj :can you find something in /etc/grub folder
[16:23] <sipior> ole: wrong channel.
[16:23] <TheCheeze> !ot
[16:23] <cybersplice> !ot | Dmole
[16:23] <hipy> ok here it comes:
[16:23] <ncfi1013_> is my graphics card current enough, cuz my last/old graphics card had problems after i installed the 185 driver. it was a 6400 from 3-4 years ago. the one i have now is from this year and should last 3-4 more years.
[16:23] <hipy> I am trying to dual boot my pc with xp and ubuntu 9.10. I have downloaded the desktop version and burned to a Cd ( rw ). After that i tried to boot wich went sucsfull and i went into the instalation menu. I came at the partition sector but i coudnt resize my windows partition to get some free space( it said at custom partitions size: unkown )
[16:23] <hipy> Then i did the resize on windows. But since then ubuntu is doing weird this. When i select install ubuntu from the cd it gives a squashfs error x100times. When i start the live cd or: the usb keyboard + mouse isnt mounted so i cant do anything, or: i get the background further nothing or: i get a black screen with a X as mouse. After many tries it finnaly worked(didnt change anything ) but on install i got an input / output error. I reburned wit
[16:23] <FloodBot1> hipy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:23] <pwnedulongtime> Karmic Koala seems not to able to detect my external monitor...has something changed regarding this?\
[16:23] <snuffy47> made a boo boo and changed the group my admin user belonged too now I can not use sudo command can soneone help please
[16:24] <Dmole> right and testing ubuntu FF on wave is invalid
[16:24] <vojacekj> i Have just etc/grub.d
[16:24] <user101> vojacekj :i mean /boot/grub/
[16:24] <ncfi1013_> what i just wrote was to bro
[16:24] <woble> hipy, you can just resize your windows partition leaving the rest as "free space" the ubuntu installer will notice and give you the option to use up free space
[16:24] <hipy> paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/308620/
[16:24] <F00L> hi, with xdiskusage i found a folder named /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.28 while i'm using 2.6.31 kernel. Can i delete it ?
[16:24] <vojacekj> yes there are many things
[16:24] <shhhpls> .
[16:25] <om26er1> yes
[16:25] <woble> hipy, Thats the easiest way to do this if you arent familiar with partition managers
[16:25] <hipy> woble: I did that, but if you read the rest of my story you see that that is not the problem.
[16:25] <sipior> Dmole: this is a support channel, not a testing-wave-on-ubuntu channel.
[16:25] <user101> vojacekj: what all?
[16:25] <TheCheeze> Dmole, ubuntu doesnt make ff. if you wanted to discus that it would be in #firefox
[16:25] <hipy> woble: the problem is that the live cd is doing very strange. I get input/output errors etc or usb is not mounted etc etc etc
[16:25] <woble> hipy, you could try the alternate disc
[16:25] <hipy> I never ever had so much trouble while this is a good pc
[16:25] <philh> Dmole, try #closedbetainvitebegging
[16:25] <hipy> woble: what is that?
[16:25] <Dmole> sipior: well I did not die from asking :) maybe I'll support someone now that I'm hear
[16:25] <WillieDaPimp> im getting an error saying 'One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted: (ESC for recovery terminal) /: waiting for /dev/disk/by-uuid/21e2977b-1bcb-470e-bbd2-6df26a79e5ba        /tmp: waiting for (null)     swap: waiting for /dev/sda5
[16:25] <Shin> Setting up an Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud, got to the GUI and I'm attempting to download from the store - all I get is "Error 60: server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt CRLfile: none"
[16:26] <Tamale> Hi all, my main menu is messed up.  "Places" and "System" are both half the height of all other elements and it's very difficult to mouse over them. Help please!
[16:26] <vojacekj> user101: are u searching for some thing because there are about 15-20 things
[16:26] <mesula> cybersplice: How the hell did my system just hibernate and restore itself with an encrypted swap?!?!?!?
[16:26] <Dmole> philh: hahaha
[16:26] <EspenA> After upgrading to 9.10 I keep seeing /sbin/getty in my process list. What is it?
[16:26] <snuffy47> made a boo boo and changed the group my admin user belonged too now I can not use sudo command can soneone help please it was my only root user help please
[16:26] <cybersplice> mesula: becuase / is not encrypted, which is where they keys are.
[16:26] <mesula> cybersplice: Is there a method of looking at the files in the swap space to confirm it's encrypted?
[16:27] <user101> vojacekj: if there is no menu.lst then search for a file which has something like menuentry . you can issue cat * | grep menuentry
[16:27] <mbeierl> snuffy47: you need to boot into rescue mode.  This allows you to become root at the console
[16:27] <mesula> cybersplice: What I want to know is if my data is safe.
[16:27] <aupa_Athletic> help for my pinnacle tdt usb ??
[16:27] <aupa_Athletic> help for my pinnacle tdt usb ??
[16:27] <stimpie> EspenA, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TTY    and  ' man getty'
[16:27] <mbeierl> snuffy47: then you can fix the group in /etc/groups or /etc/passwd as needed
[16:27] <sipior> Dmole: please try to understand, we're trying to keep the noise down to manageable levels in this channel.
[16:27] <t4num0y> Hi everyone.. i have a prob. i copy a folder from pendrive to ntfs drive in ubuntu..
[16:27] <Tamale> Hi all, my main menu is messed up after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10.  "Places" and "System" are both half the height of all other elements and it's very difficult to mouse over them. Help please!
[16:28] <philh> sipior, lots of non printing chars there
[16:28] <t4num0y> but during power faliour it was not completed ..
[16:28] <t4num0y> now i can't delete it..
[16:28] <cybersplice> mesula: sudo cat /proc/swaps
[16:28] <sipior> philh: were there? looks fine here. hmm...
[16:28] <EspenA> stimpie: i did man but do not really understand what it is. As in why is there 5 process of it now, and not before
[16:28] <t4num0y> is there any procedure to delte that folder ?
[16:28] <cybersplice> should say something about cryptoswap
[16:28] <lianimator> is it possible to access my ext4 partition from windows? with ext2fs, it says the drive is not formatted.
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> t4num0y:  i would be best to use windows to scan/check/fix the ntfs folesystem
[16:28] <vojacekj> i dont find any file with  menuentry
[16:29] <mesula> cybersplice: http://pastebin.com/m39dbae63
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> lianimator:  last i checked i saw no ext4 tools for windows  but that was about 2 months ago.
[16:29] <mesula> cybersplice: That didn't seem very useful.
[16:29] <t4num0y> ok...Dr_Willis , but i don't have windows in my system right now...
[16:29] <snuffy47> w/ mbeierl do I need to use the cd to get into rescue mode
[16:29] <Dmole> t4num0y: you could also try cli tools
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> t4num0y:  the ntfs  tools for linux are rather basic and may not fix it properly
[16:29] <t4num0y> Dr_Willis , is there anything by which i can chk the file system from linux ?
[16:29] <stimpie> EspenA, to put it simple it controls ' logins'
[16:29] <WillieDaPimp> this channel never seems to help any one out with any problems....its ok i can fix it my self but was wanting a quicker solution
[16:29] <cybersplice> mesula: Then i am wrong, and it is not encrypted. :)
[16:29] <mbeierl> snuffy47: no.  it's available from the standard boot menu.  Are you on Karmic or earlier?
[16:29] <hipy> Anbody have an solution for my problem found at: http://paste.ubuntu.com/308620/
[16:30] <mesula> cybersplice: It's not?!?!?!? I was told it would be encrypted if I choose to use an encrypted home partition.
[16:30] <StarLionIsaac> how do I go about stopping using pulseaudio and using ALSA instead after the options to choose were removed from Karmic's Sound properties?
[16:30] <snuffy47> w/ mbeierl: ubuntu jaunty server
[16:30]  * Dr_Willis sends williesapimp  Da Bill.
[16:30] <cybersplice> Yes, that's what i had thought, but it does not appear to be.
[16:30] <bnebb> What would cause the Desktop directory in the home folder to be deleted on login?  Running Ubuntu Koala 9.10.  This started after I installed the Nvidia proprietary video drivers.  Other machine here are OK running the same version but without Nvidia drivers.
[16:30] <conb123> ERm hi i was mucking around with some packages yesterday and now somehow my top right turn off button has gone, gdm is installed and the fast-user-switch-applet is now obsolete so does anyone have any ideas?
[16:30] <cybersplice> mesula: Bear with me a minute.
[16:30] <t4num0y> Dmole , can you tell me  a name ?
[16:30] <lianimator> Dr_Willis: well, I've looked high and low. and found only ext2 drivers. they can access ext3, but not ext4
[16:30] <stimpie> EspenA, http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/startupman/linux_suiglog.html explains it in more detail
[16:30] <mbeierl> snuffy47: when you reboot - do you get the grub menu?
[16:30] <vojacekj> user101: i dont find any file
[16:30] <Dmole> t4num0y: see private chat window
[16:31] <snuffy47> w/ mbeierl: it gives me the option for a number
[16:31] <snuffy47> no gui
[16:31] <lilyshu> !resetpanels
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> Yea. got NFS going on my home lan now. :)
[16:31] <user101> vojacekj: Lucky :) follow this http://wwww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1308983
[16:31] <hipy> Anbody have an solution for my problem found at: http://paste.ubuntu.com/308620/ ( please highlight me )
[16:31] <mesula> cybersplice: http://pastebin.com/m3db8d489
[16:31] <om26er1> !repeat | hipy
[16:31] <cjae> anyone else having trouble dlownloading 9.10, mine seems to be sicking a t 9%
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> hipy:  you could at least give a little summary of the problem
[16:32] <TheCheeze> StarLionIsaac, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8217190
[16:32] <woble> whats a good Ubuntu movie player, Totem distorts my movies
[16:32] <cybersplice> mesula: I had thought the install cd automagically cryptoed swap during install with encrypted home.
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> cjae:  i used the torents and got the whole cd in like 10 min. :)
[16:32] <om26er1> woble: totem
[16:32] <Dancho> smplayer or vlc
[16:32] <tesuki> woble: I recommend VLC
[16:32] <philh> woble, distorts how?
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> woble:  i perfer vlc, or mplauyer
[16:32] <mbeierl> snuffy47: sorry, I don't understand that.  When you reboot can you get to the grub menu?  If you can, there should be a "rescue" option.  If not, you need to edit the regular boot line and add "single" to it (probably at the end of the line)
[16:32] <mesula> cybersplice: Anyway, how do I now encrypt my swap?
[16:32] <lilyshu> !resetpanels | conb123
[16:32] <scaryclam> VLC works for me
[16:32] <hipy> Dr_Willis: short summary: install doenst work: i have or squashfs error or no usb devives mounted or blackscreen with a X for mouse
[16:32] <philh> totem normally works fine
[16:32] <starcube> is there a way I could help add screenshots to the ubuntu software centre?
[16:32] <renegarcia> woble: apt-cache search totem-xine
[16:32] <nick> Dr_Willis: he did, if you scroll up, 2-3 pages, he has written 2 paragraphs :)
[16:32] <woble> philh, fast scenes give "stripes" in movieplayer
[16:32] <hipy> Dr_Willis: + input output error in setup when it finnaly worked
[16:32] <conb123> Ok i just reset the panels and it said that fastuserswitchapplet failed to load and asked whether i want to delete it
[16:32] <snuffy47> [CTRL]+[ALT]+[F1] might do it
[16:32] <cjae> Dr_Willis, using http via  kget keeps saying delayed
[16:33] <woble> renegarcia, totem-xine installled
[16:33] <Tartaros> how come desktopcouch is not dependent on couchdb?
[16:33] <woble> ill try VLC, remember it worked great before
[16:33] <om26er1> woble: this happened in jaunty for mew
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> cjae:  the servers are getting a bit of load at thistime perhaps.. torrents may be much faster
[16:33] <snuffy47> w/ mbeierl: what group do you need to be apart of for sudo rights
[16:33] <om26er1> woble: this is a driver problem
[16:33] <snuffy47> admin or administrator
[16:33] <arne--> How do i boot into ubuntu recovery mode_
[16:33] <renegarcia> woble: totem-gstreamer then ;-)
[16:33] <hipy> so thats where i am im downloading the alternative install ( i hope i can resize partitions in that 1 )
[16:33] <JonathanEllis1> To synchronise files between a laptop and desktop machine, both running Ubuntu, do I need Ubuntu One or can I synchronise directly between machines without going to the web
[16:33] <woble> renegarcia, tried both :)
[16:33] <om26er1> arne--: press shift before boot
[16:33] <nick> snuffy47: search for root wheel
[16:33] <om26er1> arne--: hold
[16:33] <philh> woble, maybe the overlay it's using isn't correct
[16:34] <arne--> tyy
[16:34] <mbeierl> snuffy47: admin
[16:34] <snuffy47> rgr
[16:34] <ncfi1013_> bro: is my graphics card current enough, cuz my last/old graphics card had problems after i installed the 185 driver. it was a 6400 from 3-4 years ago. the one i have now is from this year and should last 3-4 more years.
[16:34] <stimpie> JonathanEllis1, unison can help with a direct sync
[16:34] <snuffy47> w/ mbeierl: thnx going to try it
[16:34] <biotrox> help, can't connect to WAP, wifi on lspci detected as broadcom wifi (BCMWL.SYS), can see that teh wifi icon on the taskbar exist, but cannot scan wifi SID,
[16:34] <mbeierl> snuffy47: best of luck.  It should be simple
[16:34] <biotrox> OS ubuntu desktop 9.10
[16:34] <cjae> Dr_Willis, will try just had a bunch of torrents in queue
[16:34] <PapaChub> Are all Karmic LiveCDs really Live_DVD_s? (Read: Is there no 700MB Live *CD* iso?)
[16:34] <user101> ALthough people say that karmic uses grub2 I have upgraded to karmic . My previous install was through wubi on windows which is other dual partitioned OS.
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> cjae:  perhaps they are taking up all the bandwith. :)
[16:35] <bro> ncfi1013_: no idea about nvidia cards. envy shoudl install the proper drivers
[16:35] <stimpie> PapaChub, the normal cd also works as live cd
[16:35] <baw7d3> overburn it!
[16:35] <gateau> hhhh
[16:35] <user101> ALthough people say that karmic uses grub2 I have upgraded to karmic . My previous install was through wubi on windows which is other dual partitioned OS. and now it doesn't shutdown properly. Any reasonable explanations
[16:35] <PapaChub> stimpie, CD #1 of the (what, 20-or-so) install set?
[16:35] <om26er1> PapaChub: they all really are cds
[16:35] <mesula> cybersplice: I guess I should just reinstall, then.
[16:35] <trism> user101: the upgrade will not change the bootloader
[16:35] <om26er1> PapaChub: less than 700mb
[16:35] <biotrox> help, can't connect to WAP, wifi on lspci detected as broadcom wifi (BCMWL.SYS), can see that teh wifi icon on the taskbar exist, but cannot scan wifi SID, OS using karmic
[16:35] <mesula> cybersplice: But without a swap.
[16:36] <user101> trism : ok
[16:36] <trism> user101: to get grub2 you need to do a fresh install or install it manually
[16:36] <bro> !repeat | user101
[16:36] <cybersplice> mesula: http://gentoo-blog.de/ubuntu/encrypted-home-and-swap-partition-on-ubuntu-9-10-karmic/
[16:36] <JonathanEllis1> stimpie: Thanks.
[16:36] <om26er1> PapaChub: dvd's have languages of all type
[16:36] <mvalviar> hi i downloaded ubuntustudio-alternate-i386.iso and create a startup disk from it. I booted from it but it doesnt have the option to "try ubuntu without a change to your computer"
[16:36] <user101> trism : so you mean without grub2 karmic will never shutdown properly.
[16:36] <whatis_tux> is there any way to make java apps respect general font scheme from preferences?
[16:36] <mesula> cybersplice: Yeah, I'm reading that now.
[16:36] <om26er1> !torrents | PapaChub
[16:36] <hipy> Hmm
[16:36] <hipy> Anbody have an solution for my problem found at: http://paste.ubuntu.com/308620/ ( please highlight me )
[16:36] <TheCheeze> StarLionIsaac, did that help?
[16:36] <mesula> cybersplice: It looks like a lot of effort for something I don't really need.
[16:37] <mesula> cybersplice: I think I'll just reinstall without swap.
[16:37] <biotrox> help, can't connect to WAP, wifi on lspci detected as broadcom wifi (BCMWL.SYS), can see that teh wifi icon on the taskbar exist, but cannot scan wifi SID, OS using karmic
[16:37] <trism> user101: no, all I said was if you upgrade, you don't get grub2 without some additional work
[16:37] <lilyshu> mvalviar : its because u download the alternate cd :)
[16:37] <bro> !repeat | biotrox
[16:37] <trism> user101: the bootloader to have nothing to do with shutdowns
[16:37] <hipy> Anbody have an solution for my problem found at: http://paste.ubuntu.com/308620/ ( please highlight me )
[16:37] <mesula> cybersplice: And I'll put /var/tmp and /tmp in tmpfs, too.
[16:37] <biotrox> :(
[16:37] <bro> !repeat | hipy
[16:37] <PapaChub> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/release/ only has "blahblah-dvd-blah.iso" files that are 3.9GB
[16:38] <Tamale> Hi all, my main menu is messed up after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10.  "Places" and "System" are both half the height of all other elements and it's very difficult to mouse over them. Help please!
[16:38] <user101> trism: why is shutdown , hibernate and even suspend is a problem in karmic. apport doesn't work. is anyon e looking into it
[16:38] <bro> hipy: i'm trying to read it
[16:38] <mvalviar> is it difficult to use the alternate cd? I tried earlier there is no nice gui in there
[16:38] <hipy> lol
[16:38] <PapaChub> I see, "cdimage" doesn't have CDs...
[16:38] <PapaChub> Logical.
[16:38] <PapaChub> ;-)
[16:38] <cybersplice> mesula: Good idea. Why not just encrypt the whole machine? It shouldn't have that much of a performance impact on a modern system.
[16:38] <om26er1> PapaChub: that dvd are language dvds
[16:38] <trism> user101: no idea, I did a clean install and I haven't had any problems
[16:38] <mvalviar> will i have the option to partition my drive the way i want?
[16:38] <mesula> cybersplice: Because I like the seamlessness of ecryptfs.
[16:38] <aupa_Athletic> help for my pinnacle tdt usb ??
[16:38] <whatis_tux> is there any way to make java apps respect general font scheme from preferences?
[16:38] <om26er1> PapaChub: http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[16:38] <philh> mvalviar, it wasn't the most pleasant of experiences the last time i tried
[16:39] <napzter> hi guys just want to ask... where can i see the folder of my ClamTk Antivirus?
[16:39] <[MF]Johnny> can someone help me with accessing my ubuntu server by hostname. all the tuts found in google are way out of this world for my first jump into straight linux command line
[16:39] <irv> does anyone know how to re-order groups in empathy??
[16:39] <cybersplice> mesula: With WDE you should only have to pop in a passphrase at boot.
[16:39] <mesula> cybersplice: I installed my 1.5TB HDD today. :D
[16:39] <om26er1> PapaChub: talking about daily here is the daily http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live
[16:39] <mesula> cybersplice: I prefer ecryptfs
[16:40] <bro> hipy: it's a problem with your hard drive. get yourself a new one
[16:40] <napzter> hi guys just want to ask... where can i see the folder of my ClamTk Antivirus???
[16:40] <hipy> bro it works just fine. What should be wrong with it?. Windows runs fine. i did diskchekcs wich didnt return errors
[16:40] <mvalviar> but there isn't any "normal" iso for ubuntu studio. Darn I should have DLed KK ubuntu and install the desktop using apt
[16:40] <davidgray> Hey, trying to run lrm-manager but is returning command not found. What do I need to do? Help is greatly appreciated.
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> mvalviar:   You could always use any live cd that has gpartd to partition your drive how you like
[16:41] <riddley> I have a new 9.10 install and my user doesn't show up in 'xhost'. Earlier, someone suggested I run "xhost +local:" and that fixed it, but it needs to be run every time I log in. I assume that not everyone running 9.10 off a fresh install has this problem, so how can I fix it permanently? Should I file a bug?
[16:41] <ismettern> can anybody help me get my audio working?
[16:41] <ismettern> i have a realtek alc268 chip
[16:41] <bro> [MF]Johnny: where are you trying to acces it from? same local network?
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> [MF]Johnny:  dirty way is to edit /etc/hosts and put the proper ip/hostname in there.
[16:41] <ismettern> atleast that is what alsamixer says
[16:41] <mikey_> Anyone remember how notification-daemon was compiled to include libbubble theme?
[16:42] <philh> hipy, did you check that the iso you downloaded wasn't truncated in any way?
[16:42] <PapaChub> Thx om26er1! (I had tried simply letting "apt-get dist-upgrade" do its thing, but now my box won't boot...)
[16:42] <bro> PapaChub: any error messages or so?
[16:42] <mvalviar> Dr_Willis: I have a separate partition for my /home and /root dirs will the installer be able to pick up from there?
[16:42] <H2O> Hallo word
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> mvalviar:  you tell the installer where to mount what.
[16:43] <amhidas> question about online gaming  in ubuntu..if anyone has a moment...just want to know if its possable to run games such as WoW and will umbutu do so right away or are other programs needed  to do so?
[16:43] <hipy> philh: I didnt, I dont realy know how a shashum ( or something? ) to check that
[16:43] <PreZGN> hrm, anyone here NOW know why my built-in USB devices (fingerprint reader, 3G modem) are not being activated on resuming (from suspend)?
[16:43] <bro> mvalviar: you should mount them as they are
[16:43] <bro> H2O: hello
[16:43] <[MF]Johnny> bro: same LAN, I like the way I can ping all of my windows pcs by their hostnames, alpha bravo charlie etc but my ubuntu server srv1 won't work if. (ping srv1)
[16:43] <PapaChub> bro, mountall: symbol lookup error: mountall: undefined symbol: udev_monitor_filter_add_match_subsystem_devtype
[16:43] <Colonel_Panik> Can grub2 work with old grub menu.1st files?
[16:43] <whatis_tux> is there any way to set a font for Java applications? something like Qt Settings for gnome?
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> Colonel_Panik:  no it can not use menu.lst
[16:43] <philh> !md5
[16:43] <philh> hipy ^
[16:43] <H2O> so how is the ubuntu 9.10 doing .. any bugs
[16:43] <arand> amhidas: YOu'll have to use wine for that.
[16:43] <PapaChub> Google suggests booting from a LiveCD and re-starting "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[16:43] <user101> what is the difference between old grub and new grub2
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> H2O:  they are 'undocumented features' :)
[16:44] <PreZGN> H2O: plenty.  But try getting help on them :(
[16:44] <bro> PapaChub: have you tried it?
[16:44] <arand> H2O: For that check LP ;)
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> user101:  in short.. EVERYTHING.. :)
[16:44] <mvalviar> btw. ubuntu (and ubuntustudio) will have empathy installed by default? Does it work. I installed empathy on JJ but it doens't work at all.
[16:44] <PapaChub> bro, That's why I'm looking for a LiveCD.  ;-)
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> user101:  radically different in many ways
[16:44] <bro> !torrents | PapaChub
[16:44] <JonathanEllis1> H2O: Karmic doesnt work on old Dell machines. BEWARE!
[16:44] <H2O> hmm...
[16:44] <Tartaros> user101: grub2 has an entirely new way to set itself up
[16:45] <Colonel_Panik> Dr_Willis, How about old grub lines (like from a dual PCLinuxOS file)?
[16:45] <napzter> hi guys just want to ask... where can i see the folder of my ClamTk Antivirus????
[16:45] <ismettern> is there anyway in wich i can see if i have a driver installed for my soundcard?
[16:45] <H2O> test  ubuntu remix
[16:45] <mesula> cybersplice: Everywhere I read I find that the installer SHOULD have encrypted my swap. Why didn't it?
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> Colonel_Panik:  grub2 uses a competeluy different setup. you can proerly read up/convert if you want3d
[16:45] <adrn> amhidas - I have WoW running under WINE.  ASUS M3A78-EM board.  Had to do some registry editing under WINE to get it to work, AND explictly call opengl when running it.
[16:45] <bro> ismettern: lspci -v
[16:45] <om26er1> h20: ok there is ubuntu netbook remix and ubuntu moblin remix
[16:45] <adrn> amhidas - google for WoW and WiNE
[16:46] <lilyshu> napzter : do you really need antivirus?
[16:46] <Tartaros> user101: basically grub2 is much smarter and much more idiotproof :D
[16:46] <H2O> i now ..
[16:46] <H2O> sweet right
[16:46] <hipy> philh: I download from ubuntu site and the iso already worked on a virtual machine so is there still chance it could be corrupted?
[16:46] <ismettern> thanks
[16:46] <Pici> amhidas: Wine's support channel is #winehq, you may have better luck asking there.
[16:46] <amhidas> I have not installed ubuntu yet... I need to know if things like online games such as World of Warcraft and others can be run through it as is... or does another program have to be installed  first in order to do so?
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> hipy:  it could be a bad burn. yes.
[16:46] <Colonel_Panik> Dr_Willis, ok, I will read up on grub2; thanks much!
[16:46] <PapaChub> bro, [Rehashing previous conversation] That's what brought me here in the first place: "cdimage.ubuntu.com" doesn't contain any CD images. <grin> But om26er1 pointed me in the right direction...
[16:46] <cybersplice> mesula: No idea, without seeing the log. IF you want, you could do a fresh install.
[16:46] <mesula> hiby: Yes.
[16:46] <H2O> http://www.googlubuntu.com/
[16:46] <Pici> !wine | amhidas
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | Colonel_Panik
[16:46] <skysong> amhidas: you need wine, but it works
[16:46] <mesula> hiby: Especially if you download from the UK.
[16:46] <user101> Tartaros: but after dist upgrade can we install grub2?
[16:46] <napzter> lilyshu:  yup.... i need to run as a root to update its database..... Im scanning my Hard drive...
[16:47] <mesula> cybersplice: But I just did a "fresh install"
[16:47] <napzter> lilyshu: that's why im looking for its folder...? Clamtk antivirus
[16:47] <philh> hipy, possibly, but unlikely, have you tried the check disc option when you boot from the cd
[16:47] <user101> Tartaros: what are the new features available for the new version of the grub
[16:47] <adrn> World of Warcraft has no native Linux port, if that's the question-- you need to run it under WINE.
[16:47] <Tartaros> amhidas: world of warcraft is a Windows program. While there are ways to run windows programs on linux, it's usually not the best idea, especially with graphic-heavy games like wow.
[16:47] <grzegorz> k
[16:47] <mesula> cybersplice: However, I did do my manual partitioning and then went back and chose the automatic partitioning.
[16:47] <amhidas> what is  ! wine, plz..... I
[16:47] <mesula> cybersplice: Maybe the installer got confused and didn't set everything up properly because of it.
[16:47] <Pici> amhidas: Please see the message that ubottu directed to you after I used the command.
[16:48] <HADI> !grub
[16:48] <biotrox> !linux-restricted
[16:48] <user101> amhidas : its an eemulation software
[16:48] <Tartaros> user101: yes.
[16:48] <mesula> cybersplice: I'll waste another hour of my life and install Ubuntu again. :)
[16:48] <hipy> philh: yes it said there was an error. But i dont realy trust this since i got this problem on 3 pcs all saying it had bad sectors etc.
[16:48] <grzegorz> j
[16:48] <mesula> cybersplice: As soon as my /home finishes backing up...
[16:48] <Paullo_> I put the appearance Preferences in Extra Mode
[16:48] <Paullo_> But the linux say i need install 3D acelerator....the last time i do this and rebot the computer the screen stay black and i cant see anything.
[16:48] <Paullo_> what i shold do?
[16:48] <[MF]Johnny> Is there anyway I can get my ubuntu box to respond to ping srv1 without having to edit HOST files?
[16:48] <philh> hipy, what are you checking, the CD or the HD?
[16:48] <lilyshu> napzter : type gksu nautilus in the console, and then checked show hidden files
[16:48] <mesula> cybersplice: Was I using a different nick a minute ago?
[16:49] <bro> user101: amhidas: wine lets you the run windows executables under linux in their native enviroment. wine is not an emulator
[16:49] <adrn> WoW works fine for me now, except for the mini-map going blank indoors due to a deficiency in the ATI drivers
[16:49]  * Catwoman69y2k is back.
[16:49] <Tartaros> user101: basically new features are that it sets itself up smartly and can even find some other OS installations on your computer etc. For me it found Windows XP :)
[16:49] <cybersplice> mesula: I don't think so!
[16:49] <philh> if it's the CD, and you're checking the same CD on 3 machines and getting the same error, i'd say that's pretty conclusive
[16:49] <fission61> i am in need of some help, i have a 64 bit machine, just upgraded using packing manager from ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10. Everything appeared to go find but when i rebooted after upgraded i saw a few things pass by on my monitor and than it just went to black and nothing appeared to be booting at all....i am desperately in need of help and would appreaciate any guidance in this regard (feel free to PM if need be)
[16:49] <hipy> philh: i pressed check disk. and then it said checking please wait and then it said an error was found
[16:49] <mesula> cybersplice: loyds I think
[16:49]  * Catwoman69y2k wonders why nfs-kernel hangs
[16:49] <napzter> i see... thanks lilyshu
[16:49] <philh> hipy, burn a fresh CD
[16:49] <anoob> rtl8187 makes me crazy!
[16:49] <anoob> :S
[16:49] <user101> bro : wine = windows emulator = win e
[16:50] <Devastator> wrong
[16:50] <Paullo_> I put the appearance Preferences in Extra Mode
[16:50] <Paullo_> But the linux say i need install 3D acelerator....the last time i do this and rebot the computer the screen stay black and i cant see anything.
[16:50] <Paullo_> what i shold do?
[16:50] <hipy> philh: already did
[16:50] <philh> hipy, do it sanely and with slow burn speeds
[16:50] <cybersplice> mesula: Ah yes, some time ago. I presumed you were the same person. :)
[16:50] <mesula> cybersplice: Sorry.
[16:50] <bro> user101: wine = wine is not an emulator. go to the official website
[16:50] <philh> hipy, exactly the same error when checking that one?
[16:50] <cybersplice> mesula: I forgive you. THIS TIME.
[16:50] <H2O> http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube
[16:50] <hipy> philh: i didnt check that but all the bugs i experienced with the new cd were the same as the old cd.
[16:50] <adrn> My only grief now is that I was using the spacebar for running, and trackball to steer.  Karmic now freezes the trackball if any keys on keyboard are pressed.
[16:51] <philh> hipy, then check it
[16:51] <philh> and md5sum the iso, just to make sure
[16:51] <hipy> philh: the md5sum returns on a match
[16:51] <fititnt> hello. Did someone know any program more advanced to take screenshot with only part of screen and autosave in one folder? or I must do it with ImageMagick?
[16:51] <irv> does anyone know how to re-order groups in empathy??
[16:51] <mesula> fititnt: The default screenshot program can do that.
[16:52] <fission61> anyone have insight in why after upgrading to ubuntu 9.10 i have issues rebooting (monitor goes to black)
[16:52] <bro> fititnt: the default screen shot app does that
[16:52] <lilyshu> fititnt : shutter is good :)
[16:52] <catalin_>  bistrita
[16:52] <mesula> bro: Thanks for repeating what I said.
[16:52] <Catwoman69y2k> Anyone know if NFS can be setup with the exports file using machine names rather than IP.  While the server is static, the router dymically sets the IP for the computers.
[16:52] <user101> bro: oH correct. Wine Is Not an Emulator. Just like GNU recursion. Thanks
[16:53] <bro> mesula: chill out !? i have a lag down here
[16:53] <fission61> can you guys see this post or do i need to register my nick
[16:53] <Paullo_> I put the appearance Preferences in Extra Mode
[16:53] <Paullo_> But the linux say i need install 3D acelerator....the last time i do this and rebot the computer the screen stay black and i cant see anything.
[16:53] <Paullo_> what i shold do?
[16:53] <mesula> bro: I will forgive you. THIS TIME
[16:53] <Stall-BR> Alguem sabe como customiza o ubuntu9.10 ?
[16:53] <bro> fission61: yes we can see it
[16:53] <lilyshu> Paullo_ : have you installed your vga driver?
[16:53] <fission61> thanks bor
[16:53] <martianixor> OK, returning to basics, how can I find out which audio device is currently being used?
[16:53] <fission61> bro
[16:53] <Pici> !br | Stall-BR
[16:53] <philh> Paullo_, what's your videocard?
[16:53] <grawity> user101: 'WINE' meant "WINE Is Not an Emulator", that's true. But now the program is called 'Wine', not 'WINE' -- and it _is_ kind of an emulator.
[16:53] <adrn> fititnt  one of the screenshot progs will let you choose just the active window instead of the entire screen.
[16:54] <Paullo_> lilyshu yes after i install the driver the error comes
[16:54] <Vesayth> Does anyone know why I grub won't load after doing a fresh install of Karmic? I'm doing a dual-boot setup with Vista 64-bit. Also i'm using the 64- bit Karmic.
[16:54] <Paullo_> philh Gf fx 5600 128mb
[16:54] <mesula> grawity: If you know what an emulator is, you wouldn't call it an emulator.
[16:54] <mesula> grawity: It doesn't emulate anything.
[16:54] <Omen_20> hi. my swap file was made on another hdd. I would like ubuntu to make a swap file and use it on the same hdd it is installed. I know how to make the swap in gparted, but how do I tell ubuntu to use it and not the other?
[16:54] <Vesayth> It had no problem with a fresh install on my XP machine
[16:54] <JMFTheVCI> Can anyone explain why I suddenly have a tun0 network interface when I am not running any VPN client?
[16:54] <sipior> grawity: to be honest, i always thought it was a distinction without a difference :-)
[16:54] <om26er1> !emulate
[16:54] <hylian> say, i was wondering of there is a way to fix opengl sound. i can't find anything on google... i know it's opengl sound becuase of torcs, which allowed mw to choose another sound option called phim, and that woked perfect
[16:54] <mesula> grawity: If you want to call it something, call it a 'compatibility layer'
[16:54] <Jordan_U> BenG92: Still there?
[16:54] <philh> Paullo_, then System > administration > hardware drivers should sort you out
[16:54] <lilyshu> Paullo_ : did you installed the Eecommended driver ?
[16:54] <tnefer> Hi,
[16:54] <mesula> !emulator
[16:55] <mesula> !wine
[16:55] <fiatlux> hylian: do you mean openal ?
[16:55] <grawity> Okay, okay. Stop stabbing me with factoids, it gets annoying after a while.
[16:55] <philh> mesula, if you want to argue the toss try offtopic
[16:55] <hylian> maybe. opengl programs are playing the sounds strange, like very static-y.
[16:55] <fission61> no one else had issues with screen display after upgrading to 9.10 and rebooting?
[16:55] <Paullo_> philh lilyshu yes man i install the correct drive base on linux.and i download the drive in nvidia.com too.i tryed to install with 5 diferent metods +-
[16:55] <philh> it's close enough to an emulator, no need to cause unnecessary confusion
[16:56] <BenG92> Hi Jordan_U
[16:56] <mesula> philh: It's distinctively different from an emulator.
[16:56] <fititnt> mesula, fission61, lilyshu, adrn, the default of ubuntu just make or entire screen or active window. I would like something like "import MyScreenshot.png" with ImageMagick enabled
[16:56] <trapo> #ubuntu-es
[16:56] <philh> mesula, again, arguments for the sake of it, these people don't need to know or care
[16:56] <fission61> wait what?
[16:56] <whatis_tux> is there any way to make java apps gui to inherit the fonts of the gnome system?
[16:56] <hylian> fiatlux, most of my vid games that are opengl don't play the sounds right, and torcs didn't wither untill i choose the other option besides opengl
[16:56] <docmax> can i seafely delete all /var/log/* contents???
[16:56] <hylian> *either
[16:56] <baw7d3> no
[16:56] <davidgray> I need to remove linux-backports-modules-2.6.31-14-generic as suggested here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/395630
[16:57] <tstebut> Hello
[16:57] <davidgray> can someone help me do that, much appreciated
[16:57] <tstebut> I need a hack
[16:57] <mesula> docmax: That screwed my system up before.
[16:57] <irv> what would you guys recommend for listening to midi files..
[16:57] <irv> VLC doesn't support it lol
[16:57] <mesula> docmax: Some things will complain about missing files.
[16:57] <Jordan_U> BenG92: I thought that the b43-fwcutter package itself would install without a network connection, I guess I was wrong
[16:57] <om26er> sudo apt-get purge linux-backports-modules-2.6.31-14-generic
[16:57] <mesula> docmax: I think you can safely remove most of it.
[16:57] <philh> Paullo_, which 5 methods have you tried? it shouldn't take much fiddling
[16:57] <tstebut> Is it possible to download via http somewhere else than on the laptop
[16:57] <docmax> mesula, thats why im asking... screwed my last system too
[16:57] <lilyshu> Paullo_ : in the terminal type gksu nvidia-settings , then tell me the results
[16:58] <Jordan_U> BenG92: Instead you can download the firmware itself and copy it to /lib/firmware/b43
[16:58] <grawity> tstebut: What hack are you talking about.
[16:58] <penthief> fisuk: Is your Gnome locking up?
[16:58] <H2O> Mark Shuttleworth
[16:58] <mesula> docmax: It wasn't completely screwed, though, I recreated the files that caused the problems.
[16:58] <docmax> is there a paket containing a script or program which safely deletes log-stuff?
[16:58] <sipior> docmax: you can use logrotate manually, to force the issue.
[16:58] <BenG92> Jordan_U where do I get the firmware?
[16:58] <H2O> good man for africa...
[16:58] <hylian> anyone have a problem with opengl's sound type (is it openal?)
[16:58] <penthief> fission61: Is your Gnome locking up on reboot?
[16:58] <fititnt> i will try what lilyshu said (shutter) for screenshot, Thanks :D
[16:58] <docmax> sipior, just legrotate <enter> ?
[16:59] <philh> hylian, opengl's sound type?
[16:59] <whileimhere> Afternoon all. I am using Ubuntu 9.04 with Fluxbox as my desktop. I have gone through the services and the startup programs shutting as much off as I can. Is there anything else i can do to free up more ram?
[16:59] <Jordan_U> BenG92: I am looking for a link now. If I can't find one I will put a copy on my server you can download
[16:59] <kexman> hi
[16:59] <lilyshu> fititnt : np
[16:59] <kexman> i cant see my network interfaces in dmesg
[16:59] <sipior> docmax: no, have a look at "man logrotate" (you'll probably need the "-f" switch, among others)
[16:59] <hylian> i think i am talking about openal, and i might have solved it myself, brb
[16:59] <alecjw> hey there, anyone know what package contains the python module app_util?
[16:59] <fission61> penthief: yea i upgraded to ubuntu 9.10 from 9.04 everythign appeared seamless, than i reboot and X appears not to start and just sort of hangs with a black screen..not sure what to do
[16:59] <kexman> im using latest kubuntu
[16:59] <BenG92> ok thanks Jordan_U
[16:59] <joaopinto> !upgrading
[16:59] <kexman> updated to lastest
[16:59] <Paullo_> lilyshu im in windows because in linux i cant see nothing just enter in control+alt+f1
[16:59] <xemacs4321> whileimhere, custom kernel
[17:00] <Paullo_> philh with linux install de drive,im install manuall...and all does not work
[17:00] <Paullo_> i install de the linux
[17:00] <davidgray> I need to remove linux-backports-modules-2.6.31-14-generic as suggested here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/395630      Any and all help greatly appreciated
[17:00] <Paullo_> more 6 times
[17:00] <philh> Paullo_, and which one actually killed off X for you?
[17:00] <Paullo_> had more 5 days i try to install this
[17:00] <whileimhere> xemacs4321: That sounds really complicated
[17:00] <penthief> Hi, I'm having to run on the older kernel because everything locks up soon after rebooting. Has anyone heard about this problem?
[17:00] <Paullo_> philh all
[17:00] <xemacs4321> whileimhere, usally worthdoing
[17:00] <lilyshu> Paullo_ : well i guess you have installed the wrong driver for ubuntu.
[17:00] <Paullo_> i tryed =/
[17:01] <whileimhere> xemacs4321 is it really hard to do?
[17:01] <Paullo_> lilyshu i try a lot of drivers
[17:01] <Paullo_> man =/
[17:01] <xemacs4321> whileimhere, 1st time probably
[17:01] <whileimhere> xemacs4321  yeah I am just using this machine for MAME
[17:02] <lilyshu> Paullo_ : you only need one driver, which u can find it on Hardware Drivers
[17:02] <xemacs4321> whileimhere, wiki should get you started
[17:02] <Paullo_> lilyshu i install the drive ubuntu recomends,the nvidia.com recomends....
[17:02] <fission61> penthief: any idea what i can try next
[17:02] <Paullo_> man
[17:02] <whileimhere> xemacs4321 ? wiki ?
[17:02] <Paullo_> i tryed but..
[17:02] <philh> Paullo_, how exactly did you install that driver?
[17:03] <xemacs4321> whileimhere, 1min
[17:03] <Paullo_> lilyshu ( )NVIDIA acelerated graphics drive (version 173)(recommended)
[17:03] <Paullo_> i install this
[17:03] <A4Tech1> Which utility can delete a file, what would it then was not to restore?
[17:03] <Paullo_> and get error
[17:03] <xemacs4321> whileimhere, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[17:04] <H2O> Mark Shuttleworth on his way to space http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RjUEvQ1ZSg :)
[17:04] <Catwoman69y2k> My NFS daemon attempts to start up...takes forever
[17:04] <sipior> H2O: not really the place for that sort of thing
[17:04] <lilyshu> Paullo_ : i dont have any idea, maybe some senior members on this channel can help you out.
[17:05] <Catwoman69y2k> but I still get told that nfsd is not running
[17:05] <Paullo_> lilyshu where i find the senior?
[17:05] <H2O> my bad ..
[17:05] <sipior> H2O: no worries
[17:06] <Amigadude> how do I get grub to build a new menu?
[17:06] <sipior> Catwoman69y2k: anything relevant get dumped to your logs?
[17:06] <ioneye> i just installed Ubuntu 9.10 and the system does not recognize my grafic card as used to do in 9.04
[17:06] <Catwoman69y2k> I dont think so.  Which logs would they be in?
[17:06] <fabian__> ubuntu 4 life!!
[17:06] <fabian__> hell yeah!
[17:06] <iceroot> !ot | fabian__
[17:06] <tslak> morning all
[17:06] <lester> I don't know how to use this forum, but can anyone help with an saa7130 tv card
[17:07] <sipior> Catwoman69y2k: /var/log/daemon.log, and /var/log/messages.
[17:07] <fabian__> excuse me
[17:07] <Omen_20> hi, how do i permanently set ubuntu to use a swap partition i made?
[17:07] <grawity> Omen_20: /etc/fstab
[17:07] <Catwoman69y2k> nfssvc: input/output error
[17:07] <Catwoman69y2k> thats the major consistancy
[17:08] <edgy> hi, I xhost +, telnet 192.168.15.65; DISPLAY=192.168.15.2:0 xclock and got Error: Can't open display: 192.168.15.2:0, what's wrong please?
[17:08] <tslak> Anyone know why 9.10 is causing a kernel crash when I suspend my laptop?
[17:08] <grawity> edgy: You're using telnet, that's what
[17:08] <ioneye> i just installed Ubuntu 9.10 and the system does not recognize my grafic card as used to do in 9.04 The grafic card is a Nvidia 7400 Go. there are no drivers in Hardware Drivers.
[17:08] <iceroot> edgy: dislay is not an ip-address
[17:08] <mrwoody> hi *. does anyone know why after upgradign to 9.10, any video is weird (like greenish or negative)... I get the problem in two different pc and all the softwares (mplayer, vlc, xine,...)
[17:08] <iceroot> edgy: its 0 or :0  dont know the syntax
[17:08] <fabian__> ioneye, download the drivers from nvidia.com
[17:08] <grawity> iceroot: Oh it _can_ be an IP address.
[17:09] <edgy> grawity: what's wrong with using telnet?
[17:09] <grawity> iceroot: It simply defaults to localhost.
[17:09] <Tamale> Hi all, my main menu is messed up after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10.  "Places" and "System" are both half the height of all other elements and it's very difficult to mouse over them. Help please!
[17:09] <Omen_20> grawity, i see this: # swap was on /dev/sdc5 during installation
[17:09] <Omen_20> UUID=14d59e37-fa2f-46b6-aa96-3586cda90dd8 none            swap
[17:09] <iceroot> grawity: but you know what i mean
[17:09] <grawity> edgy: Well, SSH is a) more secure (I know it's a LAN, but still)
[17:09] <edgy> iceroot: DISPLAY is to export my display, what's your point?
[17:09] <Syirrus_> ioneye: install the ones from Nvidia. They work  great
[17:09] <grawity> edgy: and b) it's a lot more convienent to use X11 over it.
[17:09] <grawity> iceroot: No, I don't.
[17:09] <edgy> grawity: for some reason I cannot use ssh
[17:09] <grawity> edgy: What exactly?
[17:09] <iceroot> grawity: that is bad :)
[17:10] <edgy> grawity: it's a server I cannot install anything on it
[17:10] <bastid_raZor> edgy: do you have openssh-server on both boxes?
[17:10] <grawity> iceroot: DISPLAY=192.168.15.2:0 is perfectly fine syntax.
[17:10] <grawity> iceroot: It used to be common before the days of X-over-SSH.
[17:10] <edgy> bastid_raZor: no, I can only use telnet
[17:10] <Omen_20> grawity, but now my swap file is /dev/sda3 so what do i do to the file to make it use it at startup?
[17:10] <grawity> edgy: What kind of an idiot sysadmin forbids the use of SSH?
[17:11] <tslak> anyone know what might be causing my Mini9 to crash after upgrading to 9.10?  I'm using full flavor ubuntu, not the netbook remix
[17:11] <beagleburt> G'day from New Zealand everyone! Using Ubuntu 8.04 (LTS) but machine keeps dialing out while booting? It was doing this for months - I was not too worried at first as the unknown number it was dialling was wrong, but around the time 4/6 of my computer "log books" disappeared, it started connecting with whomever???(So now I just switch off modem power) Now my Gnome dialler does not work? I can only get on internet via "sudo pon". I
[17:11] <beagleburt>  would really appreciate any help.
[17:11] <grawity> Omen_20: One way would be " /dev/sda3 none swap defaults 0 0 "
[17:11] <grawity> Omen_20: A better way would be to use the UUID of that partition; sudo blkid, to find out.
[17:11] <Omen_20> grawity, ok thanks
[17:12] <grawity> edgy: Eh. If you're forced to use it... If I recall correctly, by default the X server only listens on an Unix socket, and not for network (TCP) connections.
[17:12] <MyWay> Hi all :)
[17:12] <Pizza1337> hi
[17:12] <Omen_20> grawity, so should i use this? /dev/sda3: UUID="9f364e9b-522e-40ae-9e3c-fcc62816aa0a" TYPE="swap"
[17:12] <bastid_raZor> Omen_20: replace the UUID with your's.. make an entry like this.  UUID=99c6def4-507f-4a2e-9353-d1f750e069f5 none            swap    sw              0       0
[17:13] <tslak> Dell mini9 crashing upon resume after upgrading to 9.10, any ideas?
[17:13] <edgy> grawity: good point I will check that ...
[17:13] <christop> hello , i don't know why but the window manager disappear and  the mouse on my desktop looks busy  . how can i fix it ?
[17:13] <grawity> bastid_raZor: Just like bastid_raZor's example, but replace the UUID.
[17:13] <MyWay> Which is a good way of crypt a folder, considering that sometimes i move my data to another backup hd and i need read these data from another pc?
[17:13] <grawity> errrr.
[17:13] <grawity> Omen_20: ^
[17:13] <biotrox> so  nobody here knows how to configure BCMWL.sys on karmic?
[17:13] <Catwoman69y2k> I made sure that portmap was started and attempted to start nfs-kernel-server again.  Still getting the input output error.  It says "writing fds to kernel failed: erno 5" again
[17:13] <tslak> christop - has the problem persisted through a reboot?
[17:13] <grawity> Omen_20: Like this: UUID=9f364e9b-522e-40ae-9e3c-fcc62816aa0a none swap defaults 0 0
[17:14] <Jordan_U> BenG92: Ok, download this file and put it on your desktop like before: http://jordanu.dyndns.org/b43karmic.tar
[17:14] <log-man> I am having a problem with my dvd burner in ubuntu. Using Brasero it fails to recognize blank discs for burning. The dvd player reads movies, audio, and data fine. It is a Tsstcorp dvd+-rw TS-L532B, it is a part of my dell e1505. The burner works fine in os-x boots and windows.
[17:14] <MyWay> Which is a good way of crypt a folder, considering that sometimes i move my data to another backup hd and i need read these data from another pc?
[17:15] <christop> tslak, actually that's my friend's pc and he doesn't know how this happen
[17:15] <irv> does anyone know how to re-order groups in empathy??
[17:15] <christop> tslak, compiz problem ?
[17:15] <setuid> I'm installing Karmic into a vm using the alternate installer, but I don't see a way to select which packages I want/don't want. How do I do that?
[17:15] <Jordan_U> BenG92: Then run "sudo tar -xf Desktop/b43karmic.tar -C /lib/firmware/" to install the firmware
[17:15] <tslak> Christop - sounds like it, has he tried to reboot?
[17:15] <jeeves_Moss> has anyone else had issues with 9.10 on a Acer NetBook?  I can't get the CPU usage down on mine.
[17:16] <christop> tslak, yes but nothing happend
[17:16] <BenG92> Thanks Jordan_U!
[17:16] <tslak> christop - has he installed CCSM?
[17:16] <lilyshu> irv : right click and edit
[17:16] <christop> i tried to reinstall metacity and compiz but nothinh
[17:16] <Jordan_U> BenG92: np, by the way you can delete all those files from the desktop when you are done
[17:16] <christop> tslak, it's installed since 8.10
[17:16] <irv> lilyshu: i only see the option to remove?
[17:16] <irv> lilyshu: where do i right click?
[17:17] <MyWay> Which is a good way to crypt a folder, considering that sometimes i move my data to another hd and i need read these data from another notebook?
[17:17] <lilyshu> irv : on the poeple list
[17:17] <damo> hello ubuntu users :)
[17:17] <tslak> christop - i hate to ask, but have you checked to make sure the window borders are enabled in ccsm?
[17:17] <docmax> cant figure out how to delete alls logos with logrotate -f ??? can anyone help me?
[17:17] <irv> lilyshu: i think you mis-understood, i do not want to move which groups contacts are in, i want to re-order the listing of the groups so that they are not alphabetical
[17:17] <christop> tslak, well let me see :)
[17:18] <damo> docmax im new here sorry cnt answer your question
[17:18] <damo> this is well better than windows xp i know tht much lol
[17:18] <BenG92> Ok! Thanks again Jordan_U :)
[17:18] <irv> pidgin allows me to drag and drop to re-order
[17:18] <docmax> damo, no problem ,anyone else?
[17:18] <irv> and i can't for the life of me figure out how to do it in empathy :(
[17:18] <zden> log-man: try erase in the gnomebaker and another disc
[17:18] <irv> it's driving me insane having them out of order
[17:18] <javatexan> can anyone tell a difference in 9.10 vs 9.04?  Boot faster?  More stable?  Morer betterer?
[17:19] <grawity> "Morer betterer" <3
[17:19] <MyWay> eheh
[17:19] <damo> boot faster java
[17:19] <MyWay> i think 9.04 is more stable
[17:19] <Adi1> hello guys
[17:19] <tslak> christop - i remember something very similar happening to me when I was using an older distro, back when installing Compiz was a whole complicated ordeal.  Can't for the life of me remember what the cause was
[17:19] <MyWay> in 9.10 i noticed a lot of crash/bugs
[17:19] <damo> my bro has 9.04 and doesnt boot as fast
[17:19] <Adi1> Had a prob with 9.10
[17:19] <damo> my brother has put latest one on myn i think lol
[17:20] <christop> tslak, i've just renamed ~/.compiz to ~/compiz.old
[17:20] <javatexan> i am running 9.04 and looking at 9.10 on CD, so it is harder to tell.  Although the CD is secretly just a file on HD....LOL
[17:20] <MyWay> Which is a good way to crypt a folder, considering that sometimes i move my data to another hd and i need read these data from another notebook?
[17:20] <damo> bye all gona go win chips on blackjack lol
[17:20] <penthief> javatexan: I wish I'd never upgraded. My laptop freezes on bootup with the latest kernel, and gnome is strange with the older one. If anything boot is slower. I might switch back to fedora.
[17:20] <christop> brb
[17:20] <damo> hb
[17:20] <tslak> 9.10 does seem to boot faster for me, but I also have a kernel error whenever I try to resume from suspending my laptop
[17:20] <dAlfa89_> 9.10 doesn't shutdown properly for me ):
[17:20] <javatexan> penthief: go back to 9.04 then...I love 9.04
[17:20] <Twirrim> Is there any way to ditch empathy entirely and use pidgin like in 9.04? Empathy just continues to annoy me, however now the indicator-applet-session seems locked to it :-/
[17:20] <grawity> christop: AFAIK, Compiz uses Gconf for settings storage. So... if you must wipe all settings,  gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz
[17:21] <Adi1> I recently installed 9.10.. Prob is that my max screen resolution being detected is 800x6-- :( But i want to set it to 1024x768.. Anybody knows how to go about???
[17:21] <grawity> Twirrim: Sure. http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu - and you'll even get the latest version with video support.
[17:21] <Catwoman69y2k> so if I get input output error in my daemon logs, does that mean that nfs-kernel-server hasnt actually started despite it eventually saying "[OK]"?
[17:21] <javatexan> it allows me to use windows as it should be....a really nice secondary OS
[17:21] <docmax> can i seafely delete all /var/log/* contents???
[17:21] <tslak> Adil - geting your xorg.conf
[17:21] <xemacs4321> 9.10, i have a clock problem !
[17:21] <Jordan_U> Adi1: What graphics card?
[17:21] <Adi1> its not ther actly
[17:21] <sebastian__> I get this error message "WARNING: Application calling GLX 1.3 function "glXCreatePbuffer" when GLX 1.3 is not supported!  This is an application bug" what package am i lacking?
[17:21] <`efeX> hm
[17:21] <grawity> sebastian__: It says plainly, "This is an application bug".
[17:22] <penthief> javatexan: I don't think it's so easy to downgrade.
[17:22] <Twirrim> sebastian__: sounds like your graphics driver doesn't support GLX 1.3
[17:22] <penthief> apt-get downgrade
[17:22] <ioneye> fabian__: i just downloaded the drivers from nvidia.com they are with .run extension. how do i use them?
[17:22] <Adi1> Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller
[17:22] <tslak> Adil- you don't have an xorg.conf?
[17:22] <sebastian__> Using ati mobilty and can't find any updates?
[17:22] <Adi1> no
[17:22] <Adi1> i chekd some forums and created one manually
[17:22] <Adi1> but nothing worked
[17:22] <Jordan_U> ioneye: Why not use System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[17:23] <javatexan> naw, I meant install over :)  personally, I have really rotten luck with upgrading or downgrading...so I end up just installing from scratch
[17:23] <damo> anyone know any video chat programs for ubuntu
[17:23] <Adi1> Is xorg.conf must??
[17:23] <ioneye> as i mentioned before Jordan_U i can't since there are no drivers in there
[17:23] <Twirrim> ioneye: use System > Administration > Hardware Drivers, or try Envy-NG
[17:23] <Pici> !enter
[17:23] <Jordan_U> Adi1: No, t's probably that your current driver doesn't support a higher resolution.
[17:23] <Adi1> but 9.04 did
[17:24] <Paullo_> after rebot the system the screen comes black MORE ONE TIME
[17:24] <Paullo_> im getting angry.wtf this shit this shit does not work.
[17:24] <Paullo_> more one time i need reinstall the system
[17:24] <Paullo_> ¬¬
[17:24] <Paullo_> im almost giving up
[17:24] <FloodBot1> Paullo_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:24] <Adi1> i mean i was getting higher resolution in 9.04
[17:24] <MyWay> Which is a good way to crypt a folder? Do you know a good application?
[17:24] <Jordan_U> Adi1: What graphics card?
[17:24] <Adi1> Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller
[17:24] <Twirrim> Adi1: try moving the /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup and restarting.  Xorg does a reasonable job of creating one on the fly.
[17:25] <AOC> hi can I setup disk quota on useradd ?????
[17:25] <sleeping`dragon> can i use a file created using dd as swap?
[17:25] <zden> Adil: it can be KMS. Disable it in the grub. Maybe intel.modeset=0
[17:25] <Jordan_U> Adi1: Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[17:25]  * prokoschnov python v1.6 does not allow me to install exelearning
[17:25] <prokoschnov> hi
[17:25] <Adi1> yup will try now
[17:26] <damo> does anyone know any good video chat programs for this system ?
[17:26] <skysong> AOC: yes you can.
[17:26] <nodie> hi
[17:26] <youngtill1die> who can help me to configure orinoco_cs driver?
[17:26] <Twirrim> grawity: that doesn't fix indicator-applet-session though :(
[17:26] <AOC> skysong, what is the param for this? I couldn't find this in the man
[17:26] <nodie> I've installed ubuntu in my machine, it works for one minute and then reboots
[17:26] <JMFTheVCI> is there a channel to ask networking questions?
[17:26] <Omen_20> thanks grawity and bastid_raZor hopefully my reboot will go well
[17:26] <prokoschnov> nope damo but i would be interested...
[17:26] <Jordan_U> damo: empathy ( comes by default with 9.10 )
[17:26] <skysong> AOC: you installed quota already>
[17:26] <skysong> ?
[17:26] <nodie> I've tried it both 9.04 and 9.10
[17:26] <AOC> skysong, no
[17:26] <nodie> it dones't generates any debug info
[17:26] <Adi1> Oh man! Xorg.0.log is too big to paste here!!
[17:26] <damo> ty
[17:26] <skysong> apt-get install quota
[17:26] <tslak> I'm still using pidgin in 9.10...
[17:26] <prokoschnov> empathy works with webcam ? Jordan_U ?
[17:27] <Jordan_U> damo: There are also others, including skype which is proprietary
[17:27] <Tesssa> at present 9.04 is a lot better than 9.10
[17:27] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | Adi1
[17:27] <bastid_raZor> Omen_20: do a sudo mount -a .. that will work if all is right.
[17:27] <Steve[cug]> morning everyone
[17:27] <JMFTheVCI> is there a specific channel for discussing Ubuntu Networking issues?
[17:27] <nodie> could you help me?
[17:27] <om26er> Tesssa: for me karmic Rulzz
[17:27] <JMFTheVCI> !networking
[17:27] <bro> nodie: ask your question :)
[17:27] <Steve[cug]> does anyone know how to pull the wmi-client package from 9.04 into 9.10?
[17:27] <nodie> bro, what can I do?
[17:27] <Steve[cug]> 9.10 doesnt have that package anymore :(
[17:28] <philh> om26er, well isn't that nice for you
[17:28] <Surlent777> good sirs, I have many questions, but foremost on my mind is this: why does Wine refuse to install after I add their PPA as directed on winehq?
[17:28] <om26er> great
[17:28] <anoob> \j #wireless
[17:28] <Dmole> JMFTheVCI: what be the problem?
[17:28] <Adi1> jordan_U http://paste.ubuntu.com/308654/
[17:29] <nodie> bro: the only difference between the system where 'm installing ubuntu it's that I'm using a new disk, the system worked like a charm
[17:29] <Twirrim> grawity: I stand corrected.. it does, provided you actually remove empathy
[17:29] <tslak> Anyone know why 9.10 is causing a kernel error upon resuming a session?
[17:29] <nodie> bro: the disk is a 320MB serial ata, I ran the fsck and disk test from ubuntu install and they didn't found any error
[17:29] <JMFTheVCI> Dmole: Still on Jaunty. Overnight I have a mysterious tun0 interface (192.168.0.1) but no VPC client installed.
[17:29] <Surlent777> argh, empathy was nothing but trouble for me...and no facebook support
[17:29] <gperalta> hi
[17:29] <gperalta> i need help
[17:30] <grawity> Twirrim: Empathy is a separate program from Pidgin. They should be able to coexist happily.
[17:30] <Surlent777> gperalta: so do we all...what's troubling you?
[17:30] <JMFTheVCI> Dmole: No NM-vpnc or OpenVPN
[17:30] <Jordan_U> Adi1: Ok, can you also pastebin the output of "xrandr" ?
[17:30] <Dmole> JMFTheVCI: sometimes if a connection was not closed properly that can happen
[17:30] <nodie> bro: if I book in root debug mode it doesn't reboots
[17:30] <tslak> Anyone know why 9.10 is causing a kernel error upon resuming a session?
[17:30] <JMFTheVCI> Has persisted over re-boots.
[17:30] <Haitham> Hello
[17:30] <Adi1> sure
[17:30] <JMFTheVCI> Dmole: How to remove it?
[17:30] <gperalta> I installed Ubuntu 9.04 using Wubi, and today i finished upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 in that Wubi installation of Ubuntu
[17:30] <Haitham> I'm having few problems with Ubuntu, I'm kinda newb to this.
[17:31] <zden> Adi1: http://www.x.org/wiki/IntelGraphicsDriver
[17:31] <Haitham> Anyone can help ?
[17:31] <prokoschnov> does anyone had problems concerning the python version ?
[17:31] <Surlent777> Haitham: just ask
[17:31] <skysong> Haitham: how about stating your problem?
[17:31] <Surlent777> prokoschnov: not me, yet
[17:31] <gperalta> my problem is that when I'm turning off Ubuntu, it doesn't turns off
[17:31] <prokoschnov> ask Haitham
[17:31] <prokoschnov> k Surlent777
[17:31] <om26er> prokoschnov: that its RC.?
[17:31] <om26er> prokoschnov: its final in updates
[17:31] <tslak> Anyone know why 9.10 is causing a kernel error upon resuming a session on a dell mini9?
[17:31] <Pici> prokoschnov: Perhaps if you explain the exact problem you're having then someone can help you.
[17:31] <Azeotrope> What is the command for the shutdown screen to appear? that one with Restart, shut down, hibernate
[17:32] <Dmole> JMFTheVCI: did you try ifconfig?
[17:32] <Dmole> JMFTheVCI: or that other one
[17:32] <Adi1> Jordan_U xrandr > http://paste.ubuntu.com/308656/
[17:32] <gperalta> there appears a message saying "deactivating swap"
[17:32] <prokoschnov> sure Pici, i can't install exelearning due to python version problems
[17:32] <gperalta> but nothing happens
[17:32] <Haitham> First, it's about partitioner manager, I was stuck there for like 15 minutes trying to remove the old "C" partition and put a new one for Ubuntu OS, but never worked - kept telling me "Not defined System root file" something like that, what happent to the old OS (Windows XP), I certainly don't wanna have 2 OS's in my system.
[17:32] <Pici> prokoschnov: What is that? I don't see a package in the repositories matching that name.
[17:32] <JMFTheVCI> Dmole: I can remove it with ifconfig but it returns on reboot.
[17:32] <prokoschnov> did not understand om26er
[17:33] <gperalta> what can I do?
[17:33] <fgh> if building a custom livecd, how do i change default keyboard layout in gnome?
[17:33] <resno> whats the permission to give write access to everyone.
[17:33] <prokoschnov> that is the point Pici !
[17:33] <Jordan_U> Haitham: You can just use automatic partitioning, if you use maual partitioning though you need to designate which partition should be the root partition
[17:33] <skysong> Haitham: you define your / partition?
[17:33] <tslak> Anyone know why 9.10 is causing a kernel error upon resuming a session on a dell mini9?
[17:33] <Jordan_U> Haitham: Set the mountpoint to "/"
[17:34] <Surlent777> resno: rwxr--r-- or something like that
[17:34] <MyWay> i have this problem also tslak
[17:34] <Dmole> JMFTheVCI: probably something you installed expects it and added it to /etc/network/interfaces or some place
[17:34] <gperalta> I installed Ubuntu 9.04 using Wubi, and today i finished upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 in that Wubi installation of Ubuntu. my problem is that when I'm turning off Ubuntu, it doesn't turns off. there appears a message saying "deactivating swap", but nothing happens. What can I do?
[17:34] <worm> hi, i'd like to enable auto logon on startup but i can't unlock the window when i choose System > Login ... how could i do please
[17:34] <tslak> myway - i just downloaded and installed a kerneloops tracker update...think it solves the problem?
[17:34] <Adi1> guys????
[17:35] <Haitham> Ok, now everything is over - Do i have to go back to the boot menu in-order to remove the old "C" partition and creat a new one and put the Mount point "/" then reinstall ubuntu?
[17:35] <Surlent777> worm: You should just have to put your password in
[17:35] <MyWay> i have no idea, anyway i noticed that many people reported it tslak
[17:35] <gperalta> I need help!!!
[17:35] <resno> gperalta: you and everyone else.
[17:35] <fabbree> hello everybody! I've experienced some trouble using ubuntu 9.04 on my vaio , so
[17:36] <fabbree> I tryed to move to 9.10
[17:36] <skysong> Haitham: no you could use gparted for formating.
[17:36] <Surlent777> worm: Also, you'll notice that the new gdmconfig program is just short of useless in general =(
[17:36] <worm> Surlent777, the button "Unlock" does nothing when i click on it
[17:36] <JMFTheVCI> Dmole: tun0 is not in /etc/network/interfaces. Just the normal iface lo intet loopback
[17:36] <prokoschnov> too fast for me.....
[17:36] <gperalta> what can I do?
[17:36] <prokoschnov> bye bye ! :D
[17:36] <tslak> myway - well at least i'm not the only one.  If it's being heavily reported it shouldn't take long to get an update
[17:36] <Surlent777> worm: Wow, I have no idea what to do on that one
[17:36] <fgh> if building a custom livecd, how do i change default keyboard layout in gnome?
[17:36] <skysong> or the usual fdisk, either way but i like gparted (i love gui)
[17:36] <fabbree> I've installed a development branch
[17:36] <bjarni> mayday
[17:36] <worm> so i can't enable auto login on my computer :(
[17:36] <MyWay> tslak: yes, i think also
[17:36] <dAlfa89_> I have gperalta's problem, any ideas?
[17:36] <Jordan_U> Haitham: Just choose the option titled something like "erase and use the entire disk"
[17:36] <bjarni> Hi everyone
[17:36] <fabbree> now that the stable version has been released
[17:37] <bjarni> Can anyone help me with postgresql installation
[17:37] <gperalta> dAlfa89: Exactly the same?
[17:37] <peterkirn> Does anyone recall the tsched=1 option in PulseAudio? That was in prerelease Karmic and in Jaunty, but seems to be missing from defaults in Karmic?
[17:37] <Haitham> Jordan_U - you sure it won't remove my files?
[17:37] <zden> Adi1: sry no intel, but i915.modeset=0
[17:37] <Dmole> JMFTheVCI: must be in /etc/init.d/ someplace, do you NEEED it gone?
[17:37] <fabbree> is there a way to move to this? I mean my grub continues to tell me i'm using a development branch
[17:37] <resno> !ask | bjarni:
[17:37] <fabbree> even if my system is up to date
[17:37] <gperalta> dAlfa89: the same problem?
[17:37] <Jordan_U> Haitham: Ahh, I thought that you only had a windows partition. Didn't realize you also had a separate data partition
[17:37] <Haitham> I mean, it seemed like removing the whole hard-disk, cleaning it up I mean.
[17:37] <JMFTheVCI> Dmole: prefferably. Don't like to have any wasted resource if possible.
[17:37] <Adi1> zden sorry bro din get u
[17:38] <Haitham> Noo, I have like 4 Partitions, one is for Windows ( i wanna remove and put ubuntu on), and 3 others contains Files (Pics..etc)
[17:38] <Dmole> what happens on /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[17:38] <bjarni> I goofed.  Im trying to get 8.4 to reinstall completely
[17:38] <skysong> Jordan_U: i think he already has ubuntu installed, so gparted would be a really nice solution to erasing his c drive
[17:38] <Dmole> JMFTheVCI: /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[17:38] <rajen> how to get winrar on ubuntu
[17:38] <rajen> ?
[17:38] <bjarni> it wont install configuration files
[17:38] <Pici> !rar | rajen
[17:39] <Pici> rajen: short version: install the unrar package
[17:39] <Dmole> rajen: use 7zip
[17:39] <kokos> wine - winrar if you have windows like second system
[17:39] <bjarni> i have karmic
[17:39] <gperalta> Hi,  I installed Ubuntu 9.04 using Wubi, and today i finished upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 in that Wubi installation of Ubuntu. my problem is that when I'm turning off Ubuntu, it doesn't turns off. there appears a message saying "deactivating swap", but nothing happens. What can I do?
[17:39] <funkoolow> hello
[17:39] <kokos> or use other program like 7zip or smth
[17:39] <nebiros`> hello, why rubygems1.9.1 install gems into /var/lib/gems/1.9.1
[17:39] <nebiros`> ?
[17:39] <pepePlu> guys is there a way to install fbsplash on ubuntu without recompiling anything?
[17:39] <JMFTheVCI> Dmole: Yup, done that, still there.
[17:40] <zden> rajen install "unrar" package and you will be able to pack and unpack
[17:40] <funkoolow> is there someone able to help to get my terratec dmx 24/96 audio card working on ubuntu 9.10?
[17:40] <Jordan_U> pepePlu: What's wrong with usplash?
[17:41] <Dmole> gperalta: do you have a swap > ram size?
[17:41] <Adi1> guys??? Isnt it possible to detect that resolution??? Im trying this only becoz in 9.04 everything was workin fine!! 9.10 giving me this prob!!
[17:41] <pepePlu> usplash != fbsplash
[17:41] <gperalta> Dmole: i don't have a swap partition, i use wubi
[17:41] <Dmole> JMFTheVCI:  look in /etc/init.d/networking
[17:41] <pepePlu> Jordan_U.. fbsplash also adds an image to the terminal
[17:41] <JonathanEllis1> What is the notification area that flashes up on top of the windows called, as opposed to the notification area in the top panel?
[17:42] <cxo> How do i stop the pc from automatically logging on?
[17:42] <Jordan_U> JonathanEllis1: libnotify
[17:42] <Omen_20> So if I wanted my XFS partition to mount at startup, would I add the line:
[17:42] <Omen_20> /dev/sda2       /media/Media    auto                             0       0
[17:42] <Dmole> gperalta: right.... never used it but can't you just close the window?
[17:42] <pepePlu> Jordan_U like this http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/fbsplash/shots/livecd-2005.0-verbose.png
[17:42] <JonathanEllis1> Jordan_U: Thanks
[17:42] <Jordan_U> cxo: System > Administration > Login Screen
[17:42] <grawity> JonathanEllis1: The daemon is notify-osd; there's an older one called "notification-daemon" that's not as pretty but a little more stable.
[17:42] <Omen_20> or is auto wrong? and do I need any options with it?
[17:42] <gperalta> Dmole: it's a console message, it's not a window
[17:43] <grawity> JonathanEllis1: Both use libnotify and are swappable, if you got any problems.
[17:43] <gperalta> Dmole: it appears when ubuntu turns off
[17:43] <skysong> Omen_20: defaults 0 0 ?
[17:43] <varunthacker> if my network disconnects its not being able to connect to that wireless again unless I restart my laptop.This is happening since using 9.10 .
[17:43] <gperalta> Dmole: but it never turns off
[17:43] <peterkirn> Are there any suggestions for improving PulseAudio performance in Karmic? Still getting some pops and crackles here and there. I seem to have more success with ALSA.
[17:43] <skysong> i added 3-4 partitions today;)
[17:43] <JonathanEllis1> grawity: Thanks. The one installed by default in karmic causes graphics problems on my ageing laptop
[17:43] <pepePlu> so is it possble guys?
[17:43] <Tesssa> anyone help.. try to install 9.10 got throgh the proceedure as far as 3of6 the k/board its UK click forward jumps from 3of6 to 4of7 the partition manager and i am looking at a blank white box nothing in it cant do anything with it apart from shutting ti puter down any advice
[17:43] <Haitham> I'm gonna try GParted for now, although I have another question - How do i get rid of "Authentication" windows, they keep coming, can't I just authenticate once for good?
[17:44] <Omen_20> skysong, hmm? i have no idea. I'm just kind of looking at how the CD and floppy are mounted as reference.
[17:44] <Adi1> anybody????
[17:44] <Adi1> :(
[17:44] <FCalderon> Haitham those windows are placed for your own security
[17:44] <Haitham> But to secure me from myself? I mean how?
[17:44] <Haitham> I'm the only user @ this PC.
[17:44] <FCalderon> are you an experienced linux user?
[17:44] <tslak> adil - manually add the resolution to your xorg.conf
[17:44] <JonathanEllis1> Tesssa: You may need to run the alternate install CD. Is yours an old machine? My machine couldnt cope with the graphical installer of the liveCD
[17:44] <cxo> There are waaaaay too many people in this channel for it to be helpful
[17:44] <Haitham> Nope, I've been using it for 15 minutes so far.
[17:45] <Dmole> gperalta: i'm not sure but I think wubi uses a virtual file system, in which there is probably something wrong~
[17:45] <Jordan_U> Adi1: I am not sure why X thinks that your VGA output can only do 800x600 but manually adding the resolutions to your xorg.conf should work
[17:45] <mneptok> Haitham: until you leave it running and someone else sits down.
[17:45] <mneptok> Haitham: is it a laptop?
[17:45] <Haitham> Nope, Desktop.
[17:45] <FCalderon> Haitham:  there are some changes that could seriously damage your operating system install, by seeing those password requests, you know that you're about to modify something "important"
[17:45] <Tesssa> my machinse is a amd64quad desktop not a old one
[17:45] <pepePlu> i dont wanna recompile the kernel :( why dont ubuntu team do that
[17:45] <skysong> Omen_20: alright.. try /dev/xx /where/to/mount partitiontype defaults 0 0
[17:45] <spwelton> I had the same problem with a computer at work and it turned out that the monitor wasn't properly detected. I switched monitors and it works fine now.
[17:45] <FCalderon> Haitham: and once you enter your password, it won't ask for it again for some time
[17:45] <mneptok> Haitham: located in a secure location with biometric locks and surveillance?
[17:46] <Haitham> Yep.
[17:46] <SonicFreak94> cxo: Click the System menu at the top, click administration, then click login screen. You can change the settings there.
[17:46] <grawity> Haitham: It's just how Unix works. The 'root' user has all privileges; other accounts - none. ...Anyway, there are simple ways to turn off those passwords requests, but first you need to tell which of the two "Authentication" boxes does it display
[17:46] <gperalta> Dmole: This happens since I upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 a few hours ago
[17:46] <skysong> Omen_20: then sudo mount -a to check (and don't forget to add a last empty line in fstab)
[17:46] <Mammuth> bonjour
[17:46] <mateusz> hey all
[17:46] <mateusz> :*:*
[17:46] <mneptok> Mammuth: 'lu
[17:46] <tinivole> Adi1, what is the issue? what card are you using? (scrolling up, I can't see any questions about the problem)
[17:46] <Haitham> Hmm, Which of the two?
[17:46] <c3l> All my flash suddenly stopped working, why?
[17:46] <gperalta> Dmole: This happens since I upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 a few hours ago
[17:46] <Adi1> Jordan_U ok.. could u pls guide me through dat??? Actly xorg.conf file was not ther in mine... so any was to create that???
[17:46] <Haitham> Didn't notice, let me check something.
[17:46] <Dmole> gperalta: bummer maybe file a bug report
[17:46] <JonathanEllis1> grawity: Was notify-osd in 9.04?
[17:47] <grawity> Haitham: ...ah, sorry. One is displayed by "gksu" -- it has no titlebar, and when it displays, the rest of your screen darkens.
[17:47] <grawity> JonathanEllis1: I think it was.
[17:47] <Tesssa> my puter runs perfect in 9.04
[17:47] <mateusz> hey all!
[17:47] <Omen_20> skysong, so for type should i just put xfs?
[17:47] <tslak> adil - xorg.conf is there.  it's just hidden
[17:47] <skysong> Omen_20: yes
[17:47] <mateusz> omen ???
[17:47] <tinivole> tslak, no, xorg.conf is deprecated, there is a difference
[17:47] <grawity> Haitham: The other is displayed by policykit - looks like a normal window, with a titlebar, can be moved, and so on.
[17:47] <peterkirn> JonathanEllis1: osd-notify was added in 9.04 specifically. It's been updated in 9.10.
[17:47] <grawity> peterkirn: notify-osd*
[17:48] <Haitham> Let me check.
[17:48] <FCalderon> Haitham: if you really want to remove the password requests, add your user to the /etc/sudoers file
[17:48] <peterkirn> grawity: Oops, yes, says Kirn Peter. notify-osd.
[17:48] <Adi1> ok thanks all
[17:48] <Adi1> il chek
[17:48] <JonathanEllis1> grawity: Hmmm. notify-osd worked fine in 9.04 but on 9.10 it leaves a graphical mess on top of firefox every time it gets invoked
[17:48] <tinivole> Haitham, don't edit that file directly
[17:48] <peterkirn> JonathanEllis1: What happens if you turn off visual effects?
[17:48] <Haitham> Add my user to /etc/sudoers file?
[17:48] <FCalderon> Haitham: yes
[17:48] <tinivole> Haitham, run: sudo visudo
[17:48] <Omen_20> skysong, "mount: mount point /media/Media does not exist"
[17:48] <tinivole> to edit that file
[17:48] <JonathanEllis1> peterkirn: I have removed compiz so I shouldnt have any visual effects
[17:49] <kexman> can anyone help me fix my networking and get it to work on my laptop ?
[17:49] <kexman> im using BCM4311
[17:49] <tslak> tinivole, true...but it still has to exist or the system won't work
[17:49] <kexman> imean that chip
[17:49] <reverb> FCalderon: Dont you mean add to the sudoers file with NOPASSWD flag?
[17:49] <skysong> Omen_20: you created the folder? Guess not.. sudo mkdir /media/Media
[17:49] <skysong> then retry sudo mount -a
[17:49] <resno> kexman: whats the problem?
[17:49] <tinivole> tslak, wrong again =)
[17:49] <FCalderon> Haitham: add a line that goes yourusername ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[17:49]  * m0los_ testing
[17:49] <peterkirn> JonathanEllis1: Ah, I haven't tried it without compiz. That's probably the issue; the animation isn't getting handled right. I'd disable notifications if you want to stick with your current setup.
[17:49] <FCalderon> reverb: yes, I just posted the line as it should be
[17:49] <zden> Adi1 did you try add "i915.modeset=0" to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX variable in /etc/default/grub; run "sudo update-grub" and restart computer? NO xorg.conf!!
[17:49] <tinivole> tslak, if xorg.conf doesn't exist, Xorg "probes" and uses the default / failsafe settings
[17:49] <kexman> resno: well i searched dmesg for net/broad/eth/lan/wlan and returns me nothing
[17:50] <kexman> resno: i cant see none of my network interfaces
[17:50] <Haitham> Hmm, "to run" statement means I should open an Terminal?
[17:50] <tslak> tinivole - but doesn't it create a new xorg.conf then?
[17:50] <daef> hi there
[17:50] <kexman> resno: i installed 904 then upgraded to 9.10
[17:50] <JonathanEllis1> peterkirn: Visual effects are turned off. I had to remove compiz as the graphics were totally borked before that
[17:50] <vega-> i just started upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10, now it has been stuck for the latest 40min at "fetching file 1826 of 1826", also according to "top" nothing is relly happening, what next?
[17:50] <Omen_20> skysong, wow it works like a charm now. thanks!
[17:50] <john-saint> to all the ubuntu gods, i need help! i cant get my webcam to work, even with cheese! searched the net for answers but found none.
[17:50] <om26er> how can i CD to the archives mounted by archive mounter
[17:50] <skysong> Omen_20: most welcome:)
[17:50] <reverb> and when modifying sudoers file you should always use the visudo command
[17:50] <tinivole> tslak, no, at least not by default... there are ways you can get the current used settings to store as a xorg.conf file though.
[17:51] <FCalderon> Haitham: trust me, you'll be safer leaving ubuntu as it is...
[17:51] <resno> kexman: ah, ive got my own 9.10 problems... no sound or touch pad.
[17:51] <Dmole> vega-: try changing your repos
[17:51] <FCalderon> reverb: sudo pico and gksudo gedit also get the trick done :)
[17:51] <gperalta> Dmole: I don't know what to do
[17:51] <kexman> resno: aaa yes no sound here neither
[17:51] <Haitham> I shall do it, but just to get used to it - what do you mean by "Run" - Is it Terminal thingy?
[17:51] <kexman> i tought ubuntu was a plug and play linux :P
[17:51] <JonathanEllis1> peterkirn: As far as I can see there is no advantage to me staying on Karmic. Think I should probably dump it and go back to Jaunty as that had many less problems. I think Karmic is just not stable enough
[17:51] <Omen_20> skysong, one question, why does my floppy and cd have a folder named cdrom and then cdrom0? but my Media folder doesnt need a Media0?
[17:51] <tslak> tinivole - interesting...always thought that it took those default settings and created a new xorg.conf so that it didn't have to go through the whole process again
[17:51] <FCalderon> Haitham: yes
[17:51] <vega-> Dmole: but is it safe to press cancel at this point?
[17:51] <Haitham> Hmm, thanks.
[17:51] <Dmole> gperalta: is there any reason you can't hit the power button?
[17:52] <reverb> FCalderon: the diffrence is that visudo makes sure that the syntax of the sudoers file is correct when saving so that you dont mess anything up by accident.
[17:52] <Haitham> One more thing, what does Ubuntu differ from Linux?
[17:52] <JonathanEllis1> What is the difference between gksudo and sudo?
[17:52] <resno> kexman: my guess is something in the upgrade didnt complete
[17:52] <skysong> Omen_20: you folder doesn't need a folder0.. what you mounted (/media/Media) will always mount the /dev/xx assigned to this folder on boot
[17:52] <FCalderon> Haitham: Ubuntu is a linux distribution
[17:52] <JonathanEllis1> !linux
[17:52] <peterkirn> JonathanEllis1: gksudo works in the GNOME UI. ;) sudo is command only.
[17:52] <om26er> for people with no sound this might work **might
[17:52] <om26er> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-no-sound-sound-blaster-audigy-after-upgrading-from-ubuntu-9-04-to-9-10.html
[17:52] <Dmole> vega-: you are only in the downloading stage right?
[17:52] <john-saint> help! cant get webcam to work. looked everywhere on net for answers and found none!
[17:52] <azazel> i'm unable to post a bug report on launchapad
[17:52] <vega-> Dmole: yes
[17:52] <gperalta> Dmole: I can do it, but i wanted Ubuntu to do it automatically
[17:52] <daef> 2 questions: first: i've updated from 904 to 910 now, since then it doesnt know my wireless-card anymore... when i do the hardware-test-stuff it tells me that there is a atheros card - but in the networkmanager-applet it say's there are only my two cable-interfaces... where is ath0 gone???
[17:52] <Dmole> vega-: then it's fine
[17:52] <zden> JonathanEllis1 gksu is the sudo GUI
[17:52] <grawity> azazel: Any particular problem or error message you get?
[17:52] <Omen_20> skysong, okiedokie
[17:52] <peterkirn> JonathanEllis1: I'm really more pleased with updated package support and the newer kernel in Karmic over Jaunty, so that'd be the reason to stick with 9.10.
[17:52] <om26er> can i cd to the archives mounted by archive mounter?
[17:52] <Haitham> Thanks, so this means that Ubuntu still has the unique mark of Linux - Which is an Open source OS?
[17:53] <FCalderon> reverb: good point, I guess I've been messing with *BSD systems for too long
[17:53] <FCalderon> Haitham: yes
[17:53] <reverb> FCalderon: :)
[17:53] <JonathanEllis1> peterkirn: But to use either gksudo or sudo you have to type a command from the command line so whats the difference?
[17:53] <om26er> !ubuntu | haitham
[17:53] <kexman> resno: try this for sound : http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3107358.0
[17:53] <Dmole> gperalta: yes well cat your log files to a pastebin and post them
[17:53] <azazel> it says "timeout error", error ID OOPS-1403F2715
[17:53] <eager_geek> join #ubuntu-classroom
[17:54] <azazel> grawity: look:)
[17:54] <socofine> Hello everyone
[17:54] <balduran_> hi guys
[17:54] <john-saint> anyone with webcam experience please!
[17:54] <daef> 2 questions: first: i've updated from 904 to 910 now, since then it doesnt know my wireless-card anymore... when i do the hardware-test-stuff it tells me that there is a atheros card - but in the networkmanager-applet it say's there are only my two cable-interfaces... where is ath0 gone???
[17:54] <Tesssa> sticking with 9.10 is ok if you can install it hoping someone can help
[17:54] <gperalta> Dmole: ok
[17:54] <tinivole> tslak, even in 9.04, the xorg.conf file was bare minimal with just: Option "Configured Device" for each section. The only exception of where an xorg.conf file is needed is with NViDIA/ATi drivers, where they need to be specified manually. (although, disabling the use of vesa should work around that, at least, that is how freebsd does it).
[17:54] <vega-> hm now wonder if it deleted all those already downloaded packages ...
[17:54] <balduran_> mine webcan in lenovo y550 doesnt work
[17:55] <Tesssa> anyone help.. try to install 9.10 got throgh the proceedure as far as 3of6 the k/board its UK click forward jumps from 3of6 to 4of7 the partition manager and i am looking at a blank white box nothing in it cant do anything with it apart from shutting the puter down i run a amd64quad any advice
[17:55] <JonathanEllis1> peterkirn: Whats this about updated package support? Newer kernel is less of an issue for me than getting the graphics to work properly
[17:55] <FCalderon> Haitham: just as a side note, being open source isn't the only advantage of linux based distributions... and being open source isn't something that only Linux is, there are other open source operating systems
[17:55] <crypto_> got a dv6 sound problem, sound comes frm both the default notebook speaker and headfone wen headfone jacks are plugged in
[17:55] <john-saint> anyone help me with my webcam problem please!
[17:55] <beagleburt> {REPEAT QUESTION FROM 06:12 -> 06:56}: G'day from New Zealand everyone! Using Ubuntu 8.04 (LTS) but machine keeps dialing out while booting? It was doing this for months - I was not too worried at first as the unknown number it was dialling was wrong, but around the time 4/6 of my computer "log books" disappeared, it started connecting with whomever???(So now I just switch off modem power) Now my Gnome dialler does not work? I can
[17:55] <Haitham> I know. :)
[17:55] <beagleburt>  only get on internet via "sudo pon". I would really appreciate any help.
[17:55] <vega-> gnnnh, yes it did...
[17:55] <daef> "lspci | grep -i ath" brings me "01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)"
[17:56] <daef> it is there - but why dont i get a ath0 for that?
[17:56] <JonathanEllis1> !anyone | john-saint
[17:56] <zden> tslak xorg.conf only for proprietary driver
[17:56] <Haitham> I have a question, I backuped my "Previous" Firefox Bookmarks, now I need to restore 'em, and so i tried - but without any results, why?
[17:56] <om26er> daef: its wireless it will be wlan
[17:56] <daef> Haitham: how did you try to manage to restore
[17:57] <FCalderon> Haitham: make sure that you're copying them back to the right location and restart firefox
[17:57] <Haitham> Well - Bookmarks, Organize Bookmarks, Restore option.
[17:57] <daef> om26er: iwconfig says there are no ones with wireless extensions
[17:57] <daef> and on 904 it was ath0 i think
[17:57] <m0smith> hi all
[17:57] <john-saint> i require help with my webcam. tried everything myself but got nowhere fast!
[17:58] <daef> Haitham: and in which format did you back them up?
[17:58] <FCalderon> Haitham: can't help, I've never backed them up that wa
[17:58] <FCalderon> Haitham: can't help, I've never backed them up that way
[17:58] <Jordan_U> Adi1: I haven't had to wite an Xorg.conf in a long time but I think this should work ( If disabling modesetting doesn't ) http://pastebin.com/f3dc2f49e
[17:58] <m0smith> I am having issues with the network/firefox with 9.10
[17:58] <m0smith> Firefox can't find anything but w3m does a good job
[17:58] <FCalderon> m0smith: with your network or with firefox? can't be both...
[17:58] <om26er> m0smith: websites don't open?
[17:58] <Fractals87> hi
[17:58] <m0smith> doing an nslookup seems to help
[17:58] <Nixed> Hi. What is the default runlevel that ubuntu starts in on a normal boot. Is it 2 or 3?
[17:58] <m0smith> correct
[17:59] <JonathanEllis1> john-saint: I cant help but in order that someone else would be able to can you please state what webcam you are using with what software and the steps you have already tried. If you need to show several lines use pastebin.com and provide a link in your question
[17:59] <Haitham> Just checked, it's .json (the format).
[17:59] <FCalderon> m0smith: Have you tried opening a website using it's IP?
[17:59] <m0smith> w3m seems to be able to find some websites
[17:59] <daef> Haitham: what does it do when you try to restore
[17:59] <m0smith> I'll try
[17:59] <balduran_> irc in pidgin RLZ
[17:59] <daef> Nixed: try "runlevel" to  find out
[18:00] <FCalderon> m0smith: go to http://67.222.129.122 and let me know if you see cPanel's default page
[18:00] <Nixed> thanks
[18:00] <Haitham> Mm, just tried and it worked.
[18:00] <daef> Haitham: youre welcome
[18:00] <Haitham> First time didn't though, everything just disappeard - FF crashed, now it's ok. :)
[18:00] <daef> Nixed: youre welcome
[18:00] <Haitham> Thanks. :)
[18:00] <m0smith> IP address works much better
[18:01] <crypto_> ubuntu sucks
[18:01] <hipy> hi, i have tried the alternate instllation but it returned all sorts of file copy errors. Why is my pc doin this?
[18:01] <m0smith> I do
[18:01] <daef> crypto_: why that?
[18:01] <crypto_> no hardware support at all
[18:01] <m0smith> I see the cPanel page
[18:01] <FCalderon> m0smith: ok, so you could access a website by entering th IP address, so mostly sure it's a DNS thing
[18:01] <daef> crypto_: i see - same prob here
[18:01] <crypto_> i have been trying to figure out my audio problem
[18:01] <FCalderon> m0smith: Open a terminal and type: host ubuntu.com
[18:01] <crypto_> but no help at all
[18:01] <daef> crypto_: 904 knew my wireless card - 910 seems to do not
[18:01] <FCalderon> m0smith: and let me know if you get an IP back
[18:01] <daef> (sry 4 bad grammar)
[18:01] <om26er> m0smith: try sudo firefox and see if any website opens
[18:02] <reverb> crypto_: what hardware ain't working?
[18:02] <tinivole> crypto_, audio issues isn't exactly no hardware support, but nevermind ... what soundcard?
[18:02] <FCalderon> m0smith: you should get a 91.x IP address
[18:02] <m0smith> ubuntu.com has address 91.189.94.156
[18:02] <m0smith> ;; Warning: Message parser reports malformed message packet.
[18:02] <crypto_> intel HDA
[18:02] <m0smith> ubuntu.com mail is handled by 10 mx.canonical.com.
[18:02] <crypto_> i think i will go to windows 7
[18:02] <crypto_> atleast they give good support
[18:02] <daef> crypto_: i like win7 (at least @ worki have to.... *g*)
[18:02] <Tesssa> well got to go thanks for the none help will try again later
[18:02] <FCalderon> m0smith: ok, now if you try to open ubuntu.com in firefox, does it connect and display the website?
[18:02] <daef> but no windose @ home... xD
[18:02] <om26er> crypto_: and i thought they charged 25dollars
[18:03] <m0smith> sudo firefox does not help
[18:03] <crypto_> daef i think windows is a lot better than ubuntu
[18:03] <om26er> 250
[18:03] <cyphase> can someone please tell me the gconftool-2 command line to make userX startup automatically in karmics gdm?
[18:03] <crypto_> i am getting a free update here
[18:03] <crypto_> from HP
[18:03] <crypto_> to windows 7, i will switch to that...
[18:03] <daef> crypto_: so why do you bother about ubuntu's audio issues you are experiencin'=
[18:03] <daef> ?
[18:03] <om26er> crypto_: good for you
[18:04] <crypto_> well i like the interface
[18:04] <daef> cyphase: sry - i cannot... :)
[18:04] <crypto_> i want to keep ot
[18:04] <kyselejsyrecek> hi, i've got a problem with usb-creator-gtk.. it recognizes my unformatted usb stick (deleted all partitions in gparted) and shows an yellow warning triangle - "disk must be formatted", so I click Format - then there appears first partition sdd1 below sdd, but it has the same triangle and says that there's less space than it is needed showing 0B available.. gparted shows the first partition as FS type unknown.. this happens on every t
[18:04] <crypto_> it
[18:04] <m0smith> ubuntu.org still fails but the ip address for ubuntu.org works
[18:04] <CSWookie> I've just installed a clean install of karmic on my Thinkpad T61, and I can't get wireless networking to work.  The networking widget says that the device is not ready.  Is there a driver I need to get?
[18:04] <duo__> hi folks!
[18:04] <crypto_> but i cant get the sound work right
[18:04] <tinivole> crypto_, what type of sound card?
[18:04]  * om26er says OMG! crypto_
[18:04] <hipy> hi, i have tried the alternate instllation but it returned all sorts of file copy errors. Why is my pc doin this?
[18:04] <tinivole> intel HDA is a bit vague
[18:04] <tinivole> this netbook has an intel hda
[18:05] <skysong> mine too.
[18:05] <tinivole> my hp dv2700 has a intel hda
[18:05] <vega-> Dmole: now i used another countrys mirror and it gets stuck at the exact same place "fetching file 1826 of 1826"
[18:05] <resno> hipy: misaligned stars, i suppose. who knows?
[18:05] <duo__> Can some1 help me with wubi? Thereis a Karmic installation with wubi on sdb
[18:05] <skysong> and it worked like a charm.
[18:05] <hipy> Well resno
[18:05] <crypto_> I said i have an Intel HDA sound card everything is fine but when i put in the headphones the sound comes from both headset and notebook default speakers
[18:05] <tinivole> +1 skysong
[18:05] <hipy> i first did this
[18:05] <hipy> I am trying to dual boot my pc with xp and ubuntu 9.10. I have downloaded the desktop version and burned to a Cd ( rw ). After that i tried to boot wich went sucsfull and i went into the instalation menu. I came at the partition sector but i coudnt resize my windows partition to get some free space( it said at custom partitions size: unkown )
[18:05] <hipy> Then i did the resize on windows. But since then ubuntu is doing weird this. When i select install ubuntu from the cd it gives a squashfs error x100times. When i start the live cd or: the usb keyboard + mouse isnt mounted so i cant do anything, or: i get the background further nothing or: i get a black screen with a X as mouse. After many tries it finnaly worked(didnt change anything ) but on install i got an input / output error. I reburned wit
[18:05] <FloodBot1> hipy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:05] <om26er> duo__: if you are trying to install don't say sdb
[18:05] <duo__> xp booting up ok, but Karmic gives me a grub shell and doesnt boot
[18:05] <`efeX> what's the Gtk+ package called on the repo?
[18:05] <daef> crypto_: are you stupid like a piece of crap? SCNR - maybe it's a hardware problem - i tends to be with this issue.....
[18:05] <grawity> `efeX: Which version, 1 or 2?
[18:06] <`efeX> 2
[18:06] <tinivole> daef, that is not very nice
[18:06] <Xcell> crypto_-  install gnome-alsa mixer and mute the speakers when using headphones?
[18:06] <resno> hipy: the best way to dual boot is install linux first then windows
[18:06] <FCalderon> m0smith: it's ubuntu.com
[18:06] <daef> i said sry....
[18:06] <crypto_> @daef i am getting no such prob with other OS
[18:06] <duo__> om26er,  ?
[18:06] <crypto_> i have a dual boot with windows vista
[18:06] <kieren> Hi, I can't find the eclipse-cdt package in the repositories for 9.10 - any ideas why or where I can find it?
[18:06] <daef> i had this 2 times - was always HW
[18:07] <hipy> resno: yes but i cant reinstall windows atm
[18:07] <m0smith> FC: I just noticed
[18:07] <om26er> duo__: Can some1 help me with wubi? Thereis a Karmic installation with wubi on sdb
[18:07] <daef> i think i have to fetch some sleep after this few days without now
[18:07] <om26er> duo__: what does that mean again
[18:07] <kieren> Hi, I can't find the eclipse-cdt package in the repositories for 9.10 - any ideas why or where I can find it?
[18:07] <daef> have a nice evening fellas - gn8
[18:07] <resno> hiby well, it wont really work then to dual boot. have you tried using wubi?
[18:07] <CSWookie> Anyone that can help me with my networking woes?
[18:08] <cowguru2000> hey i'm having trouble with Ardour, who's familiar with JACK and/or Ardour?
[18:08] <m0smith> Ok:  Firefox is spinning on ubunut.com.  w3m on the otherhand can pull it right up
[18:08] <resno> !ask | CSWookie
[18:08] <m0smith> ubuntu.com
[18:08] <ctjctj> Good afternoon.  I am attempting to do keyboard input of the Euro Currency symbol, U+20AC.  I have a generic USA keyboard using the 104 key generic layout.  The input method is set to "system (simple)".  How the heck do I input that character from the keyboard?
[18:08] <om26er> kieren: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=878621
[18:09] <grawity> ctjctj: In GNOME -- press Ctrl-Shift-U, type 20ac, press space. €
[18:09] <eross> ubuntu 8.04 - how can I get nvidia drivers installed? nothing is showing up in hardware drivers
[18:09] <FCalderon> m0smith: Please make sure that you don't have a proxy set up in your firefox preferences
[18:09] <om26er> eross: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx (tab
[18:09] <damo> hi all got a small question plz
[18:09] <CSWookie> resno: I did.  Sigh...  I hate installing software.  It's like asking for things to break.
[18:10] <damo> is there anyway to get my t-mobile mobile broadband usb dongle to work on this system
[18:10] <om26er> eross: and see which package is available 170 or 180 or what ever
[18:10] <ctjctj> grawity: thank you.  I had a hard time (could not find it) in the wiki under "input methods".  Is there the equivlent of the compose?  such as compose+C+=?
[18:10] <BlackHawk> hello :) is there a possibility to print pdfs in landscape format through CUPS? my pdf is in landscape format, but when I print it, it is printed in portrait format :( (and you can't read the text anymore ...). I already looked for an option in the printer settings, but didn't find any!
[18:10] <Haitham> I have a question, why MSN is not logging in? Is it normal to take a life time to login? (Talking about Empathy) :)
[18:10] <om26er> eross: you can also install the latest 190 from ppa
[18:10] <resno> CSWookie: its the nature of the beast. otherwise keep what you have
[18:10] <m0smith> FC: it is connecting directly
[18:10] <damo> is there anyway for my mobile broadband usb dongle to work on here
[18:10] <grawity> ctjctj: Hm. [Compose e =] results in € for me.
[18:10] <damo> i cant seem to install it on this ubuntu
[18:10] <m0smith> I also removed my .mozilla dir, just in case
[18:10] <X-313> i used ms windows before. ubuntu is better
[18:10] <ctjctj> Ah, what is the compose key is the correct(er) question then.
[18:10] <CSWookie> resno: I did as long as I could, but I had to update to get new versions of subversion.
[18:10] <X-313> ubuntu rocks
[18:11] <om26er> eross: https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa
[18:11] <cyphase> daef: np :).. turns out you can still edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf
[18:11] <damo> ubuntu is awsome ill never go bk to xp now lol
[18:11] <skxpl> Is boot mounted with read-only in recovery shell? If I umount it and mount it back again, will it mount propery?
[18:11] <damo> can someone help me with something when u ready plz no rush
[18:11] <cyphase> damo: what about vista and 7, hmm? :P
[18:11] <damo> im on ubuntu
[18:11] <grawity> ctjctj: By default there is none... in "Keyboard settings", look for the "Advanced settings" button. I personally prefer to map it in place of CapsLock, but there are a few other choices.
[18:11] <FCalderon> m0smith: odd... just to confirm, if you enter the IP address you can connect without a problem, but if you enter a domain name it just doesn't resolve, right?
[18:11] <damo> and want to use my mobile broadband
[18:11] <resno> CSWookie: i upgraded and have my own problems.. have you tried the livecd to see if the probelms are there. i am thinking the update process is broekn
[18:11] <damo> usb modem
[18:11] <Haitham> I have a question, why MSN is not logging in? Is it normal to take a life time to login? (Talking about Empathy) :)
[18:11] <damo> but i cnt seem to install it at all
[18:12] <X-313> is u enable root in ubuntu it has all privileges by default or u have to assign them?
[18:12] <om26er> Haitham: fine here
[18:12] <ctjctj> grawity: thank you.  That answers the questions I had.  Have a great day and may the source be with you.
[18:12] <CSWookie> resno: That's a scary thought.
[18:12] <FCalderon> Haitham: by MSN you mean??? Microsoft's passport? Microsoft's Messenger? or what ?
[18:12] <m0Rre> Haitham: do you have the right time and date set ?
[18:12] <trism> Haitham: no idea, I am using Pidgin and it logs in instantly
[18:12] <jeeves_Moss> why does "/usr/bin/X :0 -br -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-Myvxl1/database -nolisten tcp vt7" use so much CPU time on my Netbook?
[18:12] <om26er> Haitham: although i dont use ot but i tried it worked
[18:12] <duo__> om26er, . well ok. i never tried wubi (ive got a clean install ive got 1 hdd) so i cant help my friend who installed a Karmic, with wubi. he haas an XP on a 250hdd and he installed the Koala to his another, 80Gb hdd (<- that was sdb what im talking about)and when he want to boot ubuntu,  there is only a message: Minimal bash like editing is supported. sry for my poor english anyway
[18:12] <damo> i realli need to get my mobile broadband working
[18:12] <FCalderon> Haitham: MSN stands for Microsoft Network, not for Microsoft's Messenger
[18:13] <grawity> X-313: The root account exists and has all privileges. But it is locked by default.
[18:13] <grawity> X-313: Usually, you would use "sudo somecommand" (or "sudo -s" for a root shell).
[18:13] <damo> take it no one can help with the mobile broadband thingy ?
[18:13] <trism> FCalderon: well it used to be called MSN Messenger before they renamed it to windows live (pidgin still calls the protocol msn)
[18:13] <shtrb> what is the default boot manager for keramic ?
[18:13] <`efeX> Any reason as to why my firefox would delete itself after I ran sudo apt-get build-dep classpath? :s
[18:13] <resno> CSWookie: havent verified it but i have my feeling. that something didnt quite click on mine. it looks like it halfway applied on my install
[18:13] <damo> hmmm efe
[18:13] <damo> wierd indeed
[18:14] <Pici> shtrb: Its 'karmic', and it uses grub2 by default.
[18:14] <`efeX> very weird
[18:14] <FCalderon> trism: Right, but that's because it's using MSNP which is a registered protocol
[18:14] <damo> yeah
[18:14] <iNsAn|tY> Does anyone know if there is a package for evolution-mapi 0.28.1
[18:14] <damo> dnt realli know wot to say to tht one
[18:14] <damo> reinstall firefox lol
[18:14] <`efeX> well hopefully it was JUSfirefox
[18:14] <iceroot> !evolution-mapi
[18:14] <damo> yh hopefully
[18:14] <shtrb> Pici , thank you
[18:14] <m0smith> FC:  now http://91.189.90.42/ is returning a 404 while the ubuntu.com spins
[18:14] <masteris> i have a question
[18:14] <damo> efe
[18:14] <`efeX> yes?
[18:14] <FCalderon> trism: And yes, there's MSN Messenger, and that's correct, but logging into MSN would also imply logging into your hotmail account via web.
[18:14] <damo> u know anything about mobile broadband
[18:14] <kyselejsyrecek> Could anybody help with usb-creator?
[18:14] <X-313> grawity: i unlocked it, but when i looked at properties i saw no privilege assigned
[18:15] <tinivole> `efeX, did it say that it was going to remove any packages when you ran the command?
[18:15] <`efeX> tinivole: no
[18:15] <damo> i wanna install my mobile broadband usb modem on this system
[18:15] <masteris> how many viruses there are on linux ubuntu ?
[18:15] <grawity> FCalderon: MSN accounts aren't necessarily Hotmail.
[18:15] <FCalderon> m0smith: well the 404 is pretty normal as maybe they're using name based virtual hosts
[18:15] <iceroot> masteris: 0
[18:15] <jeeves_Moss> why does "/usr/bin/X :0 -br -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-Myvxl1/database -nolisten tcp vt7" use so much CPU time on my Netbook?
[18:15] <BA^> how can i connect to my windows vista computer from ubuntu? is it difficult?
[18:15] <damo> no one can seem to help me with the issue lol
[18:15] <resno> masteris: zero
[18:15] <iceroot> !samba | BA^
[18:15] <`efeX> damo: no sorry, i know nothing of mobile broadband
[18:15] <FCalderon> grawity: No, but MSN accounts include hotmail accounts, as well as passport accounts, live postmaster accounts and every single account that can be used on a microsoft network website, not just messenger
[18:16] <damo> ok thanks
[18:16] <grawity> X-313: Those "privileges" are simply groups (as in /etc/group) that have some privileges. For example, almost all Linux distros have "audio" and "optical" and "adm" groups -- Ubuntu just has pretty names for them.
[18:16] <skxpl> How to get a writable boot to edit menu.lst in Ubuntu's recovery shell?
[18:16] <BA^> thanks iceroot i'll check it out
[18:16] <grawity> X-313: But root, _always_ has all privileges, without needing to be in any group.
[18:16] <iceroot> damo: use the ubuntu-forums for the t-offline stick, its much easier/faster
[18:16] <tinivole> masteris, you need some reading material I see
[18:16] <X-313> BA^:  from ubuntu to view windows partitions you do not need anything
[18:16] <damo> whats the link for the fourms
[18:16] <grawity> skxpl: You have a separate boot partition?
[18:16] <resno> damo: your best bet would be to search online..
[18:16] <muthah> FCalderon:  by any chance are you also  MCalderon
[18:16] <skxpl> grawity, I do
[18:16] <damo> oki doki
[18:16] <FCalderon> m0smith: My best bet would be to reinstall firefox as you've already deleted your .mozilla directory, so there are no preferences saved...
[18:16] <grawity> skxpl: Try this... mount -o remount,rw /boot
[18:16] <damo> thanks all
[18:17] <damo> ill just look online
[18:17] <FCalderon> muthah: no
[18:17] <damo> :D:D
[18:17] <tinivole> masteris, http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[18:17] <Rods_Tiger> what would happen if I install ubuntu over the top of an existing ubuntu installation - and without altering or erasing the existing partitions.
[18:17] <BA^> what i meant was via a network... sorry that i didn't say that earlier
[18:17] <muthah> ok
[18:17] <damo> i might go hit up urban terror for a hour not sure might have food first
[18:17] <antonio_> tu
[18:17] <X-313> BA^: but to do that from windows you need sama installed on ubuntu
[18:17] <m0smith> FC: I did the reinstall before getting on
[18:17] <skxpl> grawity, and if I don't have a separate boot partition? then I need to remount / by  mount -o remount,rw /?
[18:17] <iceroot> !ot | damo
[18:17] <BA^> X-313: ok. thanks
[18:17] <grawity> skxpl: Yeah.
[18:17] <damo> o sorry
[18:18] <grawity> resno: Technically, IRC is "online" too.
[18:18] <damo> no problem
[18:18] <muthah> it would overwrite all you local files Rods_Tiger
[18:18] <Sneex> Is there a way to tell if my remote "dedicated" server I am on is a virtual host and not a real server?  uname -a states 2.6.28-16-server SMP and top says I have 8 CPUs :P
[18:18] <skxpl> thanks again, graft
[18:18] <skxpl> thanks again, grawity*
[18:18] <BA^> X-313: does print sharing work from ubuntu to windows? or vise versa?
[18:18] <damo> bye then got no more questions thanks for your help tho
[18:18] <iceroot> BA^: yes, with samba
[18:18] <Rods_Tiger> muthah: but no harm otherwise to the /home and such?
[18:18] <BA^> sweet!
[18:18] <X-313> BA^: i mean samba
[18:18] <tinivole> masteris, but that doesn't mean that Linux users are any less complacent than Windows users (infact, we are more so security focused, at least, the gurus are ;)
[18:18] <petsounds> it is weird, i am on karmic. i do update & upgrade and then i lost my firefox 3.5 and falling back to Shiretoko. and then i try to remove shiretoko and install firefox again with apt-get install firefox. shiretoko is the one i installed. how can i fix this? i lost lots of features with Shiretoko. thanks
[18:18] <resno> grawity: yes, technically. but this isnt search.
[18:19] <X-313> through samba
[18:19] <dale> whats the best way to install skype on 9.10?
[18:19] <BA^> definitely gonna check that out!
[18:19] <dale> medibuntu?
[18:19] <tinivole> masteris, read this on Ubuntu Security http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[18:19] <iceroot> !skype | dale
[18:19] <iceroot> dale: yes
[18:19] <grawity> Sneex: Check if there's grub installed? Try loading a kernel module? (Most VPSes disallow that.) Look in ifconfig -a? (Some VPS software creates strange interfaces.)
[18:20] <X-313> bye folks
[18:20] <grawity> Sneex: and, lspci/lsusb/lshw
[18:20] <BA^> another question: when they release firefox 3.6 (next year?) will there probably be a version for it for jaunty? can't use karmic cuz my vid card too old
[18:20] <iceroot> BA^: maybe in backports but not in jaunty-repos
[18:21] <BA^> k
[18:21] <m0smith> CF: If I do an nslookup on a domain, I can see it
[18:21]  * Sneex is looking :P   brb :)
[18:21] <m0smith> otherwise I may not see it at all
[18:21] <grawity> BA^: There's always the "download the official build" way... that's how many people got 3.5 in Jaunty.
[18:21] <blck> good evening
[18:21] <Trupsalms> help please
[18:21]  * BA^ loves IRC - and misses using it
[18:21] <Trupsalms> can anyone help
[18:22] <FCalderon> m0smith: That's why I say it's odd, try running firefox as root and see if you can open any websites
[18:22] <blck> why is my Internet that slow since a update to karmic? IP-v6 is ignored... any idea?
[18:22] <FCalderon> Trupsalms: It's better if you type your question so if someone knows the answer he/she will reply
[18:22] <Trupsalms> Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com
[18:22]  * MacOS_User I am trying to convert from CentOS to Ubuntu (I REALLY like the new version) and have a few quick questions, last time I tried to ask them I was directed to mounds of documentation, which when I have time I will be happy to read, but I need to get a few things up and kicking pretty quick. If anyone has real answers, I'd sure appreciate it! I need to find and edit the GRUB menu and I cannot find it, I also don't seem to be able
[18:22]  * MacOS_User take Ubuntu into single user mode for some reasons (tried "init 1" or "init s"). I also looked for the grub menu in /boot/grub and in /etc/default/grub no menu stuff there either.
[18:22] <JohnN> well colour me stupid... ppl when u upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 let it fix menu.lst for you...
[18:22] <Trupsalms> but can connect to internet
[18:23] <Pici> MacOS_User: Please don't use actions to ask questions.
[18:23] <grawity> MacOS_User: It would be much better if you didn't abuse actions (/me) for that.
[18:23] <JohnN> fixed all the problems I was having
[18:23] <petsounds> it is weird, i am on karmic. i do update & upgrade and then i lost my firefox 3.5 and falling back to Shiretoko. and then i try to remove shiretoko and install firefox again with apt-get install firefox. shiretoko is the one which installed. how can i fix this and get back to firefox 3.5 ? i lost lots of features with Shiretoko. thanks
[18:23] <muthah> thats the /home/ directory
[18:23] <FCalderon> MacOS_User: you should see it in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:23] <Trupsalms> Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com, but can connect to google
[18:23] <crypto_> CANT HEAR ANY SOUND IN YOUTUBE
[18:23] <crypto_> ??
[18:24] <skysong> blck: you tried the tests to find the best repo for your location?
[18:24] <BA^> last question (maybe) what are my choices for IRC on jaunty? i've got xchat installed and used it, but are there others that are better (i know... better is matter of opinion)
[18:24] <JohnN> still having to "sudo modprobe b43" to kick start the wifi
[18:24] <briangoins> I have an XKB error upon bootup
[18:24] <FCalderon> Trupsalms: Has this happened more than once?
[18:24] <grawity> crypto_: Stop shouting, thank you very much.
[18:24] <Pici> petsounds: If you open a terminal and do `apt-cache policy firefox` what does it say? Please use a pastebin for the resuls: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:24] <Trupsalms> yes
[18:24] <bieb> BA^: I use Pidgin for IRC
[18:24] <Trupsalms> fresh install
[18:24] <MacOS_User> I dont think I saw that (that was my first look), but let me check again, just to be sure. I thing it had something do with the new ubuntu using grub2, no?
[18:24] <blck> skysong: My best repo? Its just in firefox and so one, that it is very slow
[18:24] <MacOS_User> someome told me that anyway
[18:24] <crypto_> sorry, getting no sound in youtube?
[18:24] <iNsAn|tY> anybody been able to get evolution-mapi working in karmic?
[18:24] <crypto_> can anyone help
[18:25] <FCalderon> MacOS_User: I'm just upgrading to 9.10 as we speak, so can't tell yet :s
[18:25] <grawity> BA^: irssi <3   Also, weechat / Xchat / Konversation / maybe Pidgin
[18:25] <FCalderon> crypto_: is sound working in other apps?
[18:25] <MacOS_User> there is no menu.lst in /boot/grub
[18:25] <skysong> blck: maybe its just your connection then.
[18:25] <MacOS_User> ok FCalderon
[18:25] <crypto_> yes
[18:25] <crypto_> its working fine!!
[18:25] <FCalderon> Trupsalms: Odd, I can resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com without any problems, try replacing your DNS with OpenDNS ones
[18:25] <MacOS_User> Ubuntu 9,.10 has no /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:25] <BA^> grawity: is irssi in the add/remove ? or do I have to d/l it and install it manually? not on jaunty right now...
[18:25] <MacOS_User> none
[18:25] <CSWookie> Hmm.  What is Jockey?
[18:25] <cousin_mario> hello
[18:25] <Amanj_> hello,,,gNewSense similer ubuntu ?
[18:26] <grawity> BA^: It's in the repositories, that I know for sure.
[18:26] <MacOS_User> also going into single user mode doesnt work
[18:26] <grawity> Amanj_: gNewSense is Ubuntu-based, yes.
[18:26] <MacOS_User> I am running under VirtualBox
[18:26] <BA^> grawity: thanks, then i'll try it later
[18:26] <openweek1> Can somebody please help me in this tread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1311105 It keeps getting shoo'd away to the 9th page and I dont wanna bump it every 5 mins!
[18:26] <blck> but it is definetly since the upgrade, which was with some errors, but now i get it working. I think. I had the same in OpenSuse there i've turned off IPv6
[18:26] <cousin_mario> I have universe enabled but can't find the package "partimage"
[18:26] <Trupsalms> can't
[18:26] <Amanj_> grawity, thanks
[18:26] <cousin_mario> according to packages.ubuntu.com it ought to be there
[18:26] <Trupsalms> biggy back of of wifi
[18:26] <MacOS_User> any ever tried to take their system into single user mode on 9.10?
[18:27] <Drummer91_FG> ciao
[18:27] <dr_smit> God bless
[18:27] <m0smith> CF:  running as root doesn't seem to help
[18:27] <petsounds> Pici : http://paste.ubuntu.com/308700/
[18:27]  * BA^ used pIRCh the last time I did irc... but that's dead
[18:27] <Trupsalms> everything works fine, just Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com
[18:27] <briangoins> XKB error message upon bootup. Can anyone help?
[18:27] <m0smith> CF: doing nslookup on the site before trying to load it does seem to help
[18:27] <crypto_> can anyone help me, sound is working fine in all other applications except flash player!!!
[18:28] <arand> cousin_mario: not included lately in ubuntu.
[18:28] <grawity> BA^: Heh, I still have pIRCH'98 somewhere. And it runs on Wine too.
[18:28] <cousin_mario> arand: any alternative?
[18:28] <FCalderon> m0smith: Are you running nslookup as a regular user or as a super user?
[18:28] <cousin_mario> arand: I need to write back a partimage file
[18:28] <Trupsalms> FC
[18:28] <Pici> petsounds: Looks like you have a ppa enabled for firefox, which is why you're not seeing the proper version from the repositories.
[18:28] <Gerbinist> 9.10 question, i have a dell laptop where Fn + F2 enables wireless, when disabled i can activate it by typing: ifconfig wlan0 up, but, it doesnt go auto online after that, is there a command for that?
[18:28] <Trupsalms> did you get that response
[18:28] <m0smith> FC: regular user
[18:28] <BA^> grawity: i loved pirch cuz i could script the hell out of it. does irssi allow scripting?
[18:29] <FCalderon> Trupsalms: yes, I still say that you should change your DNS settings, even though everything else seems to resolve just fine.
[18:29] <FCalderon> Trupsalms: or if you want to "bypass" the resolving issue, add a line to /etc/hosts
[18:29] <jiffe> any idea why finger and getpwnam() would return different homedirs?
[18:29] <grawity> BA^: Yeah. Perl :)
[18:29] <cousin_mario> uhm, no 64 bit version, apparently
[18:29] <MacOS_User> anyone know how to get Ubuntu 9.10 into single user mode?
[18:29] <FCalderon> Trupsalms: with the following data: 91.189.88.135 us.archive.ubuntu.com
[18:29] <BerRMaNyA> alguien habla español?
[18:29] <mMezquitale> Here is a good one, is it possible to install the same version of ubuntu(intrepid), each in its own partition, and dual boot them???
[18:29] <petsounds> Pici : ok. ill remove it now. then how can i get ff 3.5 back?
[18:29] <Trupsalms> FC piggy backing of wifi, on another computer, windows ics
[18:29] <grawity> jiffe: Is it a local acount (/etc/passwd) or NIS/LDAP?
[18:30] <MacOS_User> I want to run zerofree from single user mode, how do I get it into single user mode?
[18:30] <vega-> Dmole: disabling security.ubuntu.com and archive.canonical.com gets the upgrade going
[18:30] <briangoins> Anybody know how to help with an XKB error?
[18:30] <fission6> i just upgraded to ubuntu 9.10 and now gmail wont run in the latest firefox?
[18:30] <grawity> BA^: If you're afraid of Perl, both Xchat and WeeChat support Python too (and a few other languages, which I don't remember)
[18:30] <Pici> petsounds: Then just remove and reinstall the firefox package.
[18:30] <jiffe> its in ldap
[18:30] <FCalderon> Trupsalms: enter the line in /etc/hosts, that way you'll be bypassing any DNS resolution
[18:30] <arand> cousin_mario: Only available on i386 it seems...
[18:30] <BerRMaNyA> I have a problem to install exim4 whit smarthost...
[18:30] <Trupsalms> FC how to run the command
[18:30] <FCalderon> m0smith: I'm thinking but can't seem to find a logic solution to your issue
[18:30] <MacOS_User> single user mode: any ideas?
[18:30] <BA^> grawity: not afraid... just don't know it. but i'm sure i can learn
[18:30] <petsounds> Pici : ok. ill give you the results.
[18:30] <grawity> jiffe: And which one of your two commands returns the correct path?
[18:30] <jiffe> grawity: it only exists in ldap though, not in the passwd file
[18:30] <jiffe> finger does
[18:31] <grawity> jiffe: And... what does getpwnam() return, then?
[18:31] <FCalderon> crypto_: Maybe reinstalling flash player? I'm not entirely sure why you don't have any sound... as a side note, make sure that no other program is using the sound interface before loading firefox or your browser (just to make sure)
[18:31] <Trupsalms> FC where do i run the command from
[18:31] <jiffe> it returns what it used to be in ldap, seems to be cache or something
[18:31] <jiffe> cached
[18:31] <BerRMaNyA> hiiiiiiii ???
[18:31] <grawity> jiffe: Check if you're running nscd
[18:31] <m0smith> FC:   conversely, the IRC is working just fine (I am using Empathy on the same box for this conversation)
[18:31] <MacOS_User> anyone know how to get ubuntu 9.10 into single user (maintenance) mode?
[18:31] <grawity> jiffe: IIRC, the command to flush caches was "nscd -i passwd"
[18:31] <fission6> anyone having trouble loading gmail in firefox 3.5.4?
[18:31] <FCalderon> Trupsalms: open a terminal and enter: echo "91.189.88.135 us.archive.ubuntu.com" >> /etc/hosts
[18:32] <grawity> MacOS_User: Put "single" to the 'kernel' line in grub?
[18:32] <Sneex> :p  I guess it's a real box; just feels weird -- maybe it's because I didn't build it myself  oO
[18:32] <FCalderon> Trupsalms: it will ask for your password
[18:32] <grawity> FCalderon: No it won't
[18:32] <MacOS_User> anyone know how to get ubuntu 9.10 into single user (maintenance) mode?
[18:32] <jiffe> we're running nslcd
[18:32] <grawity> jiffe: nslcd? never heard of that.
[18:32] <Trupsalms> FC would that command auto add the line
[18:32] <JackRock> Hey guys.  Does anybody know how to force quit OpenOffice.org?  I'm trying to do a system update, but it tells me that OO is still running, despite me having no windows open.
[18:32] <jiffe> nslcd - local LDAP name service daemon
[18:32] <FCalderon> grawity: it wont... what?
[18:32] <MacOS_User> how do I do that when I cannot edit /boot/grub/menu.lst which don't exist?
[18:33] <grawity> FCalderon: "echo anything >> /etc/hosts" will only return "Permission denied".
[18:33] <redboy> salut tt le monde
[18:33] <briangoins> Anybody have any information about how to fix an XKB error message upon bootup?
[18:33] <FCalderon> grawity: ok, forgot the "sudo"
[18:33] <palmje> win 23
[18:33] <grawity> FCalderon: That won't work either, as the redirection (>> /etc/hosts) is processed by your shell, before calling 'sudo'.
[18:33] <Trupsalms> FC/Grawity What would Auto Add the Line I Need
[18:33] <briangoins> i have results of xprop -root and gconftool-2
[18:34] <MacOS_User> grawity: I know to do that, that's why I went looking for /boot/grub/menu.lst, thats how my CentOS is, but it does not exists here
[18:34] <MacOS_User> I just did a find on my entire system
[18:34] <grawity> FCalderon: The easiest way would be... echo "blah blah" | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts   # note the -a for append
[18:34] <MacOS_User> no menu.lst!!!
[18:34] <pepeplu> is KpackageKit the same as ubuntu software center/store?
[18:34] <grawity> MacOS_User: Karmic? it uses grub2, grub.conf IIRC.
[18:34] <grawity> MacOS_User: And I wasn't talking about menu.lst
[18:34] <FCalderon> Trupsalms: grawity is right, I'm used to work as root on BSD systems...
[18:34] <MacOS_User> where is grub.conf?
[18:34] <arand> cousin_mario: 64bit testing versions present in https://launchpad.net/~dominik-stadler/+archive/ppa/+packages and https://launchpad.net/~futurepilot/+archive/ppa/+packages
[18:34] <jiffe> grawity: so an update to ldap requires a process run on the server?
[18:34] <MacOS_User> oh someone else might have been
[18:34] <FCalderon> grawity: I stand corrected, again, been messing with BSD systems for too long :)
[18:34] <grawity> jiffe: I don't know... neve rused nslcd :|
[18:34] <petsounds> Pici : ff is back. thanks for your help :)
[18:34] <JackRock> Hey guys.  Does anybody know how to force quit OpenOffice.org?  I'm trying to do a system update, but it tells me that OO is still running, despite me having no windows open.  I'm using Karmic.
[18:34] <thijs> hi
[18:34] <MacOS_User> ok grub.conf
[18:34] <Pici> petsounds: no problem, good to hear its working.
[18:34] <grawity> MacOS_User: I was talking about editing the line directly in boot menu.
[18:35] <MacOS_User> ok
[18:35] <briangoins> things were working fine, until i tried to change my keyboard configuration to match my macbook
[18:35] <grawity> MacOS_User: grub allows you to simply press 'e', grub2 should too.
[18:35] <MacOS_User> so use grub.conf to edit yeah?
[18:35]  * grawity sighs.
[18:35] <MacOS_User> I never get a grub menu
[18:35] <Trupsalms> FC/Grawity I'm Confused now
[18:35] <MacOS_User> in CentOS with even on kernel in /boot I get a menu not here
[18:35] <grawity> Trupsalms: echo "91.189.88.135 us.archive.ubuntu.com" | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts
[18:35] <mMezquitale> Here is a good one, is it possible to install the same version of ubuntu(intrepid), each in its own partition, and dual boot them???I aleady have intrepid and hardy installed, i want to upgrade hardy to karmic
[18:35] <FCalderon> Trupsalms: do as grawity said
[18:36] <fission6> anyone know why gmail is spittin gthis out on javascript error? Error: Permission denied for <https://mail.google.com> to get property HTMLDocument.body from <moz-safe-about:neterror?e=fileNotFound&u=https%3A//mail.google.com/mail/...
[18:36] <thijs> are there known problems with compiz/ati drivers and jdk ? Is there a way to fix this ?
[18:36] <Berzerker-> Anyone have a problem of volume un-muting after waking up after hibernating?
[18:36] <AlanBell> JackRock: do you have it running headless on a server like Alfresco?
[18:36] <Sneex> This will tell you where all grub stuff is:  dpkg -L grub
[18:37] <BerRMaNyA> Somebody know about exim4, please is urgently
[18:37] <arand> MacOS_User: if you don't have a dualboot setup grub2 aint meant to show the menu.
[18:37] <JackRock> AlanBell: No, not that I can think off.  I don't have any "server" specific version.  It's local installation on my dekstop (the same one I'm typing on now).
[18:37] <MacOS_User> how do I set that up?
[18:37] <MacOS_User> or how do I command Ubuntu 9.10 to go into single user mode from the root prompt as well?
[18:37] <randyd> I am using 9.10 final release and It finds my HP Photostatted 2600 and my router but I can not print. I can from A windows desktop with an N wireless adapter.  How can I get totally connected and print?
[18:38] <Berzerker-> MacOS_User, Single user mode is a Mac thing
[18:38] <AlanBell> JackRock: OK, well that was what blocked it for me
[18:38] <MacOS_User> no, its a Unix thing, every Unix has it.
[18:38] <Sneex> man init :)
[18:38] <Tamale> Hi all, my main menu is messed up after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10.  "Places" and "System" are both half the height of all other elements and it's very difficult to mouse over them. Help please!
[18:38] <arand> MacOS_User: you can press esc on bootup to show the menu I think, or if it was shift... not sure.
[18:38] <MacOS_User> Solaris, AIX, HP-UX all have single user mode (maintenance mode)
[18:38] <Berzerker-> MacOS_User, it's only called "single user mode" on OS X.
[18:38] <Sneex> man runlevel
[18:38] <Berzerker-> MacOS_User, Ubuntu, for ex, calls it recovery mode.
[18:38] <AlanBell> JackRock: you can use "ps aux |grep office"
[18:38] <Trupsalms> FC/Grawity Now will that auto add the command
[18:38] <briangoins> plus i get an error message saying that i've encountered a serious kernel problem
[18:38] <MacOS_User> whatever, how do I get to it
[18:38] <MacOS_User> who cares what its called
[18:38] <grawity> Berzerker-: No, it's called "single user mode" in ALL UNIX SYSTEMS -- except Ubuntu, which calls it "recovery mode", but it's still the same single-user mode.
[18:38] <ZykoticK9> fission6, just as an FYI (on my non-upgraded, ie clean installed karmic) i'm not having any issues with gmail & firefox.  best of luck to you.  have you tried moving your ~/.mozilla to .mozilla_backup yet?  just something to test.
[18:38] <[A]KangB> Hi people, on Ubuntu 9.04, when i push shutdown... it shutdown inmidiatly, but i have upgrade Ubuntu, and now it waits 60 secs. how can i remove that waiting time!?
[18:39] <mMezquitale> !runlevel
[18:39] <briangoins> and soffice.bin just crashed
[18:39] <JackRock> AlanBell - I get this error: "OpenOffice.org is running right now. A running OpenOffice.org makes extension (de-)registration not possible and it causes problems with (de-)registering components.
[18:39] <Berzerker-> grawity, mmhmm, right, anyway.
[18:39] <arand> MacOS_User: you can press esc on bootup to show the menu I think, or if it was shift... not sure.
[18:39] <JackRock> Please close OpenOffice.org (including an eventually running Quickstarter)."
[18:39]  * Sneex loves Linux :)
[18:39] <MacOS_User> thank you grawty, the guy is a buffoon
[18:39] <mMezquitale> !upstart
[18:39] <Berzerker-> lol
[18:39] <fission6> ZykoticK9: i will review t hanks
[18:39] <AlanBell> JackRock: to find the process ID then kill it with kill -9 processid
[18:39] <xfiler76> someone that can help me with 9.10 and dwa-140 i cant get it to work
[18:39] <MacOS_User> how do I edit that menu?
[18:39] <grawity> MacOS_User: ...learn nick-completion, okay?
[18:39] <grawity> MacOS_User: Btw, what are you trying to do in that single user mode?
[18:39] <Berzerker-> you mean in recovery mode?
[18:40] <benste> Hi -. what's the APT option to reinstall HAL withouht removing depnecys ?
[18:40] <MacOS_User> grawity: First, I want to get into single user mode to run zerofree
[18:40] <adi2> hi all. anyone experiencing bad scrolling firefox on youtube or fb under karmic?
[18:40] <grawity> Berzerker-: "recovery mode" is just an newbie-friendly name. Even the grub's option is named "single".
[18:40] <Trupsalms> FC/Grawinty will i have to do anything else after that command
[18:40] <JackRock> How does one find the specific process id?  And I thought the command was pkill.  I'm a newb to linux in general
[18:40] <adi2> the smooth scroll in ff is really bad
[18:40] <gabar> amara
[18:40] <MacOS_User> grawity: also, I want to edit whatever is the "menu.lst" of grub2
[18:40] <Berzerker-> grawity, right. uh huh.
[18:40] <grawity> JackRock: 'kill' takes a PID, 'pkill' takes a process name.
[18:40] <blck> skysong... it was the settings in firefox, disabled it in about:config. Never had that before
[18:40] <MacOS_User> Berzerker-: you need to learn another Unix than just Ubuntu, then you will see how silly you are sounding right now.
[18:40] <nameless`> hello
[18:41] <adi2> or should is install ati drivers
[18:41] <JackRock> Grawity: got it.  Makes sense.  Problem is that I don't know either in this case.
[18:41] <Berzerker-> MacOS_User, you're the one in here asking for support, don't insult the ones giving you support.
[18:41] <redboy> hello
[18:41] <MacOS_User> Berzerker-: I am not insulting you, I am correcting you.
[18:41] <mMezquitale> MacOS_User, there is no menu.lst on grub2
[18:41] <arand> [A]KangB: look in power management in pref. menu
[18:41] <nameless`> how can i change my resolution with ubuntu 9.10 i am running ubuntu under parallel 4.0 under mac os x snow leopard
[18:41] <ZykoticK9> MacOS_User, you're running in Virtualbox right?  what are you trying to accomplish with zerofree?  is your virtualbox image static or dynamic?
[18:41] <Berzerker-> MacOS_User, you called me a buffoon
[18:41] <skysong> blck: cool:) thought you had slow speeds with apt-get..
[18:41] <MacOS_User> just because I need support does not mean I do not recognize some of what you as wrong and am right about that.
[18:41] <Berzerker-> MacOS_User, I take that as an insult.
[18:41] <MacOS_User> yes
[18:41] <MacOS_User> dynamic
[18:41] <slimy_lotus> what's with the fight?
[18:41] <opossum_oisif> hello quelqu'un pourrait il me dire s'il y a encore un menu.lst pour grub et ou ?
[18:41] <slimy_lotus> :S
[18:41] <nameless`> i would like to have the 1280x800 but it does not appear
[18:41] <mMezquitale> !ot| Berzerker
[18:42] <Berzerker-> mMezquitale, lol
[18:42] <arand> !fr | opossum_oisif
[18:42] <nameless`> i would like to have the 1280x800 but it does not appear
[18:42] <Pici> Berzerker-, MacOS_User: Please drop it.
[18:42] <MacOS_User> fine, I am looking for help with getting into single user mode and editing the new grub2 menue
[18:42] <Trupsalms> Grawity
[18:42] <opossum_oisif> arand,  oups I thought I was on ubuntu-fr I will translate
[18:42] <MacOS_User> first thing: I want to get to single user mode from the root prompt
[18:42] <thijs> are there known problems with compiz/ati drivers and jdk in karmic? My laptop seems to crash when i install sun-java6-jdk package
[18:43] <arand> !grub2 | MacOS_User here's how to edit grub2 prefs:
[18:43] <adi2> hi all. anyone experiencing bad scrolling firefox on youtube or fb under karmic?
[18:43] <mMezquitale> Berzerker, and MacOS_User you can continue your chit-chat just not in this room, thanks!
[18:43] <Reticenti> my sound does not work, in sound settings, there is no hardware to choose, but aplay -l shows hardware to use
[18:43] <MacOS_User> I did it had no information on it
[18:43] <nameless`> there is no xorg.conf i can edit :§
[18:43] <MacOS_User> I read that
[18:43] <nameless`> :§(
[18:43] <[A]KangB> arand, no, power mannt. has only 2 tabs
[18:43] <opossum_oisif> can somebody could tells me how do I configure grub since I don't see menu.lst?
[18:43] <nameless`> how can i edit an inexistant xorg.conf ?
[18:43] <MacOS_User> I am trying to get the same answer opossum_oisif
[18:43] <arand> opossum_oisif: also se the grub2 factoid^
[18:43] <nameless`> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't work
[18:43] <nameless`> yaarh
[18:43] <MacOS_User> opossum_oisif: dont waste your time its not in that doc
[18:43] <ZykoticK9> nameless`, are you running nvidia?
[18:43] <kebomix> hello , how to remove partitions password on karmic ?
[18:43] <Pici> nameless`: Create your own. If it exists then xorg will honor the settings
[18:44] <nameless`> ZykoticK9, no
[18:44] <nameless`> Pici, yes but i would like a template
[18:44] <mMezquitale> opossum_oisif, you have to edit a file and put your settings there
[18:44] <MacOS_User> someone else was going to tell me how to get into single user mode so I can run zerofree on my dynamic disk
[18:44] <nameless`> ZykoticK9, i run parallel on mac os x snow leopard
[18:44] <grawity> Berzerker-: I'll just say one last thing. Every other distro I've seen calls it "single user" mode. I am not forcing you to call it that - and I expect you to not force others to call it "recovery mode" either. Thanks.
[18:44] <Berzerker-> MacOS_User, /etc/default/grub
[18:44] <Berzerker-> MacOS_User, then sudo update-grub
[18:44] <arand> MacOS_User: Ok, sorry, so what is the specific settings you're after?
[18:44] <nameless`> Pici, i tried X -configure but it fails
[18:44] <opossum_oisif> mMezquitale, it doesn't help me a lot
[18:44] <Reticenti> my sound does not work, in sound settings, there is no hardware to choose, but aplay -l shows hardware to use, how can i get sound settings to recognize my sound hardware?
[18:44] <nameless`> Pici, so i want to have a clean xorg.conf  i can edit
[18:44] <mMezquitale> opossum_oisif, what are you trying to accomplish?
[18:45] <Berzerker-> grawity, I don't expect you to force me what I can and cannot say, thanks, Pici told us to drop it.
[18:45] <arand> MacOS_User: I've told you several times to hold down esc or shift on boot to get the grub menu...
[18:45] <MacOS_User> ok, I want to (1) get the menue to come up - I GET NO GRUB MENUE, (2) I want to add an entry for going directly to single user mode
[18:45] <MacOS_User> (3) I want to know why "init 1" wont take me to single user mode anymore
[18:45] <Berzerker-> MacOS_User, the grub menu, once you can access it already has an entry for it.
[18:45] <opossum_oisif> mMezquitale, find an equivalent to /boot/grub/menu.lst I am suprised that it disapear but I think I will look in internet
[18:45] <MacOS_User> (4) How do I default the menu to come up absent the "esc" for shift?
[18:45] <ZykoticK9> nameless`, if it's ati i can't help.  BUT fyi there is a problem/bug with karmic and nvidia settings cause there isn't a proper xorg.conf and the fix is "sudo nvidia-xconfig" which creates a proper xorg (in researching that problem i read that karmic doesn't have an xorg by default, not sure if that's true).  good luck though.
[18:45] <Berzerker-> opossum_oisif, the new file is /etc/default/grub
[18:45] <MacOS_User> how do I force the grub menu to always come up
[18:46] <torgrimt> anyone know how i can disable automounting of a specific device? i want to use gtkam instead of ubuntu mounting it up automaticly
[18:46] <arand> MacOS_User: Defaulty menu will have that entry as "Recovery mode"
[18:46] <Berzerker-> opossum_oisif, then when you edit it, you run sudo update-grub
[18:46] <MacOS_User> so I dont have to press a key
[18:46] <nameless`> ZykoticK9, you don't understand, parallel emul a video card
[18:46] <opossum_oisif> Berzerker, oh I prefer that in /etc good
[18:46] <fission6> is there a way in x term to make the it so when i highlight text its copied to the clip board, and when i right click it pastes?
[18:46] <nameless`> ZykoticK9, i run ubuntu with parallel
[18:46] <pauljw> MacOS_User: did you say you were running ubuntu in vbox?  if so, why not go to #vbox and ask there.  virtual mahines don't always work the same as a live install.
[18:46] <MacOS_User> yes
[18:46] <mMezquitale> opossum_oisif, like I stated before you have to create a file and put your settings there, grub2 does not use a menu.lst file
[18:46] <MacOS_User> AH! OK
[18:46] <nameless`> MacOS_User, did you succeed at fix the resolution to 1280x800 ?
[18:46] <thijs> My laptop seems to crash when i install sun-java6-jdk package? How do I fix this somehow?
[18:46] <Berzerker-> mMezquitale, no, that is wrong, the new file is /etc/default/grub
[18:46] <MacOS_User> yes
[18:46] <arand> MacOS_User: there is a show_menu boolean in that file Berzerker- mentioned
[18:47] <MacOS_User> which file?
[18:47] <opossum_oisif> mMezquitale, hum ok thx for the tip
[18:47] <Berzerker-> /etc/default/grub
[18:47] <MacOS_User> I didnt see him mention a file
[18:47] <nameless`> MacOS_User, tell me
[18:47] <MacOS_User> ok
[18:47] <mMezquitale> Berzerker, from what I understand that file is not be edited
[18:47] <MacOS_User> lemme go look at that!
[18:47] <MacOS_User> huh?
[18:47] <nameless`> Pici, can you give me a proper xorg.conf ?
[18:47] <MacOS_User> do I edit it or not?
[18:47] <Pici> nameless`: man xorg.conf can get you started creating one from scratch.
[18:47] <Berzerker-> mMezquitale, no, it is to be edited.
[18:47] <nameless`> Pici, :)
[18:47] <Berzerker-> you're thinking of grub.cfg
[18:47] <MacOS_User> he right, that wiki says not to edit it
[18:47] <Gerbinist> is there a command for going online after enabling the intel wireless card with 'ifconfig wlan0 up'?
[18:48] <MacOS_User> so where do I edit that boolean and what is the name of it for the menue?
[18:48] <Pici> nameless`: By default xorg will detect your settings, thats why it no longer requires xorg.conf to exist.
[18:48] <Berzerker-> MacOS_User, that file controls when the menu comes up and for how long, etc.
[18:48] <MacOS_User> but someone said not to edit it right?
[18:48] <slimy_lotus> akh, just edit the file!
[18:48] <Berzerker-> MacOS_User, incorrectly, yes.
[18:48] <mMezquitale> Berzerker, opossum_oisif the file in "/etc/default/grub" is not to be edited, you can edit it but whatever you save there are not guaranteed to stay there all the time, you have to create your own file with your own settings and place it in "/etc/grub.d"
[18:48] <slimy_lotus> sudo and do it!
[18:48] <nameless`> Pici, there is no way to tell him "create me a proper xorg.conf with the same option that you are using right now" ?
[18:48] <MacOS_User> huh?
[18:48] <Pici> nameless`: I know of no tool to do that, sorry.
[18:48] <Berzerker-> mMezquitale, that's why you run sudo update-grub, which generates a grub.cfg
[18:48] <mMezquitale> Berzerker, opossum_oisif the file in "/etc/default/grub" is not to be edited, you can edit it but whatever you save there are not guaranteed to stay there all the time, you have to create your own file with your own settings and place it in "/etc/grub.d/"
[18:48] <Sneex> MacOS_User: init doesn't run itself, it calls telinit which is a system v compatible type thing; the man page says:  Upstart has no notion of  runlevels  itself,  this and the telinit(8) tool are provided to emulate their behaviour.
[18:48] <Pici> !who
[18:48] <slimy_lotus> back in my day, we did everything as root. and root was happy
[18:49] <Berzerker-> MacOS_User, I assure you, the file you want is /etc/default/grub
[18:49] <ZykoticK9> Gerbinist, perhaps you need to run dhcp on the device?  like "sudo dhclient wlan0" or something?  good luck
[18:49] <opossum_oisif> mMezquitale, interressant thx!
[18:49] <BerRMaNyA> I have problem with exim4, some body helpme ?
[18:49] <MacOS_User> Berzerker-: I assure you I will listen to those calling it single user mode.
[18:49] <mMezquitale> opossum_oisif, which brings back the question, why do you want to know that, look at Berzerker 's post
[18:49] <Berzerker-> MacOS_User, There's nothing in the file itself that says you shouldn't ed it
[18:49] <Berzerker-> MacOS_User, your sarcasm is much appreciated also.
[18:49] <MacOS_User> but there is on that wiki!
[18:49] <MacOS_User> thank you
[18:50] <BerRMaNyA> I have problems with exim4, somebody help me ?
[18:50] <MacOS_User> that wiki says dont edit it!
[18:50] <arand> MacOS_User: /etc/default/grub is the file to edit YES.-- /boot/grub/grub.cfg is the file you shouldn't edit.
[18:50] <MacOS_User> whats the right way ahead?
[18:50] <Gerbinist> ZykoticK9: nah, it's a static evironment, think is, when activating wireless through Fn + F2 it goes online automatically afterwards
[18:50] <slimy_lotus> just edit the file! you shouldn't edit it if you don't know what you're doing, that's all
[18:50] <Pici> MacOS_User: Scroll down and read the rest of the page.
[18:50] <Berzerker-> yes, exactly what I said
[18:50] <opossum_oisif> mMezquitale, ok sudo update-grub I will try it
[18:50] <MacOS_User> ok
[18:50] <BerRMaNyA> I have problems with exim4, somebody help me ?
[18:50] <mMezquitale> MacOS_User, you should not edit it you can however the changes you edit could be overwritten
[18:50] <ZykoticK9> Gerbinist, dunno, good luck.
[18:50] <Berzerker-> opossum_oisif, once you edit /etc/default/grub, you run sudo update-grub
[18:50] <Gerbinist> ZykoticK9: k, thx
[18:50] <grawity> BerRMaNyA: Only if you tell us what problems you have.
[18:51] <dale> ok, this fan is realaly doing my head in, http://pastebin.me/8d3a4337505c62f8cb468d8167162174 which one of these are right?
[18:51] <opossum_oisif> mMezquitale, but I have to chroot it because I am not in the right partition
[18:51] <dale> *really
[18:51] <ShereKhan> Anybody else having problems booting kernel 2.6.31 in 9.10? I just get a white Ubuntu logo on a black screen. 2.6.28 works.
[18:51] <masteris> how to log on to internet for free
[18:52] <MacOS_User> I dont want my changes overwritten, what do I edit to make them permanent?
[18:52] <arseny> hi all
[18:52] <Berzerker-> masteris, what does this have to do with ubuntu?
[18:52] <Berzerker-> MacOS_User, sudo update-grub
[18:52] <Berzerker-> MacOS_User, after you edit it
[18:52] <mMezquitale> MacOS_User,  Berzerker, opossum_oisif the file in "/etc/default/grub" is not to be edited, you can edit it but whatever you save there are not guaranteed to stay there all the time, you have to create your own file with your own settings and place it in "/etc/grub.d/"
[18:52] <arand> MacOS_User: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 documents the options, you want to comment out the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT I think.
[18:52] <n90> salve
[18:52] <Berzerker-> mMezquitale, we heard you the first 8 times, once again, you can edit it, nothing will happen.
[18:53] <n90> anche a voi l'avanzamento a karmic è lenta?
[18:53] <opossum_oisif> lol
[18:53] <BerRMaNyA> I have a problem to configure exim4 with smarthost, i dont know how i get the smarthost server..
[18:53] <Kaell> Hi, I'm trying to install Xubuntu 8.04 (alternate CD) on a laptop.  I've tried 3 different burns and downloads, and every time it fails at 6% on "Select and install software".  Any suggestions?
[18:53] <BerRMaNyA> The smarthost is given by ISP?
[18:53] <Kaell> I've tried 2 different burners too, and checked the md5sum
[18:53] <lightpriest> i'm having problems loading ubuntu normally and it seems to be something with the video card/driver. when i use recovery mode to get console access and type 'sudo gdm' everything works fine, anyone experienced that?
[18:53] <alesan> hi, since when in ubuntu one can use the righmost part of the touchpad to do vertical scrolling?
[18:53] <sebsebseb> Kaell: md5sum the ISO, also why 8.04 instead of 9.10?
[18:54] <dale> hah awesome
[18:54] <lightpriest> that is, 9.10
[18:54] <MacOS_User> arand: just hit that page now, 1 sec.
[18:54] <n90> hi the updating 9.04-> karmic is too slow no?
[18:54] <arand> mMezquitale: Everything I've heard says you should edit it, where from do you take it one shouldn't?
[18:54] <dale> I need acpi_osi=\\\"
[18:54] <anti_theocon> kaell...same here...
[18:54] <Berzerker-> alesan, it's in the mouse settings
[18:54] <dAlfa89_> Kaell, might be a heat/HDD problem like I had, has the laptop worked recently?
[18:54] <alesan> Berzerker-, since wihch version?
[18:54] <Kaell> it's an old laptop, I figure 8.04 will have less bloat, and is an LTS
[18:54] <Berzerker-> alesan, System > Preferences > Mouse
[18:54] <brian__> anybody know how to fix "error activating xkb configuration"?
[18:54] <anti_theocon> btw, can anyone point me to a drupal room>
[18:54] <Berzerker-> alesan, I haven't seen it before karmic, so, but it might have been in jaunty.
[18:54] <Kaell> The laptop worked fine with XP SP3 on it.
[18:54] <BerRMaNyA> wich is the smarthost server out?
[18:55] <slimy_lotus> the drupal room is #drupal-support
[18:55] <arand> n90: might be load on mirrors, might consider setting an optimal mirror before upgrade if possible.
[18:55] <mMezquitale> MacOS_User, you have a dual boot in your mac?
[18:55] <grawity> BerRMaNyA: Do you even know what's a smarthost :|
[18:55] <masteris> are there is games for linux? and what is it?
[18:55] <fixxxerm1t> I have ubuntu installed on a standalone drive.  I have an identical drive that I want to add and then use mdadm to create a RAID1 array.  Aside from adding the drive, can mdadm do this on the fly (with the server online)?  If so, how?
[18:55] <alesan> Berzerker-, come on, at least 8.02 had it
[18:55] <alesan> I do not recall now if it worked even in 7.04
[18:55] <dAlfa89_> Kaell, have you noticed a recent decrease in performance?
[18:55] <Berzerker-> alesan, 8.04 you mean?
[18:55] <alesan> I have 9.04 and of course it works
[18:55] <Kaell> I just bought the laptop.
[18:55] <alesan> yes sorry typo
[18:55] <Berzerker-> alesan, I didn't see it, it may have been in before
[18:55] <MacOS_User> NO
[18:55] <alesan> 8.04
[18:55] <MacOS_User> virtualbox is like vmware
[18:56] <grawity> BerRMaNyA: No, I won't answer "by mp", whatever that is.
[18:56] <Kaell> Knoppix LiveDVD seems to work fine on the laptop.  Should I do something with that to test the HD perhaps?
[18:56] <BerRMaNyA> Ok
[18:56] <alesan> Kaell, why?
[18:56] <mMezquitale> arand, if you can edit it please let us know, I was told not to edit the file when karmic was still in development, I created a file and placed it in "/etc/grub.d" so I can dual boot with jaunty, I will talk to the grub developers about this one, havent kept up on the changes
[18:56] <arand> masteris: openarena, yofrankie, armagetronad...
[18:56] <Kaell> I dunno, people seem to be suggesting it might be a HD problem.
[18:56] <dAlfa89_> Kaell, it's a good idea, and try the RAM check thing on the Ubuntu CD
[18:56] <MacOS_User> does anyone know why telinit 1 or init 1 does not work?
[18:57] <lightpriest> i'm having problems loading ubuntu (9.10) normally and it seems to be something with the video card/driver. when i use recovery mode to get console access and type 'sudo gdm' everything works fine, anyone experienced that?
[18:57] <wrapster> is there a lotus notes edition for linux by any chance?
[18:58] <Randomtime> wrapster: IIRC there is, but only for RHEL
[18:58] <petsounds> im on ubuntu NBR, sometimes i like to change into desktop mode, on the previous version i can use desktop-switcher but with karmic i'm no longer can search for it on synaptic, is there a way to install desktop-switcher? thanks
[18:58] <wrapster> Randomtime: RHEL ?
[18:58] <Randomtime> wrapster: red hat enterprise linux
[18:58] <riddley> is Bryce Harrington in this channel?
[18:58] <wrapster> Randomtime: red hat?
[18:58] <ZykoticK9> lightpriest, what video card are you using?  "lspci | grep -i vga"
[18:59] <mMezquitale> Berzerker, my apologies, I reposted for MacOS_User apparently he also missed your posts
[18:59] <BlackHawk> hello! I'll try again, since I didn't get an answer last time ... my problem is that I want to print a pdf-file, which is in landscape format, on paper (again with landscape format) ... but that seems to be impossible through the gui to cups ... (there's no option for landscape format, at least I didn't find one, and the preview shows it in portrait format!). I already found a solution using the cli, but that's not exactly what I want ... I'
[18:59] <BlackHawk> d appreciate your help!
[18:59] <Randomtime> wrapster: Oh, there is an ubuntu version, see http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=899&uid=swg27016205#Operating System_R
[18:59] <mpower_bmw> hey
[18:59] <Haitham> Hello
[18:59] <Haitham> Again :)
[18:59] <mpower_bmw> hey
[18:59] <lightpriest> nvidia, 96 drivers (it's an old one i can't use the new ones)
[18:59] <BerRMaNyA> I need install smtp server in my ubuntu , when i execute mail() in php, It sends the mail to my spam inbox, i read that if i configure my exim with smarthost, it shouldnt send to spam inbox
[18:59] <lightpriest> ZykoticK9, nvidia, 96 drivers (it's an old one i can't use the new ones)
[18:59] <MacOS_User> reposted what?
[18:59] <mpower_bmw> can i download ubuntu 9.10 and install it using unetbootin ?
[18:59] <BerRMaNyA> that is true?
[18:59] <Haitham> Why I can't login MSN using Empathy? It's taking forever, is it a normal thing?
[18:59] <MacOS_User> the scroll rate is to high here, can you private it to me?
[18:59] <lightpriest> Haitham, run "killall telepathy-butterfly"
[18:59] <setuid> My karmic install left me with a sources.list that only points to the cdrom, even after I told it to use universe, multiverse, partner, etc. How do I fix that?
[18:59] <ZykoticK9> lightpriest, what nvidia card?
[18:59] <lightpriest> Haitham, and then try again
[19:00] <Haitham> Okay, thanks. :)
[19:00] <lightpriest> ZykoticK9, MX400
[19:00] <wrapster> Randomtime: yeah.. thanks.. lets hope the 8.04 also works on 9.04 :)
[19:00] <arand> mMezquitale: From the forum tutorial ""The Grub 2 user-configurable settings are contained mainly in /etc/default/grub and the files in /etc/grub.d. When update-grub is executed the results are input into the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file."" Seems like the grub.d is for the grub scripts, and the default/grub file is for settings...
[19:00] <Randomtime> wrapster: Should do, but might want to check before you buy
[19:00] <lightpriest> ZykoticK9, if i look at X's logs I see a backtrace at the end of 'em
[19:00] <wrapster> Randomtime: ok.. thanks
[19:00] <m0smith> CF: thanks for the help
[19:00] <m0smith> disabling ipv6 fixed the problem
[19:00] <mMezquitale> arand, youre right, Im looking at the file right now, now you can edit it and you have to run "update-grub" once youre done making changes
[19:01] <TheComputerGuy> Hello!
[19:01] <Eric-Storm> I have Ubuntu 9.10 64bit... After about 10 minutes my USB mouse freezes. I've tried other mice it happens just the same. Anyone know how to fix my mouse from freezing?
[19:01] <ZykoticK9> lightpriest, looks like this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1311963 but NO replies so far :(  sorry man it looks to be a pretty specific issue - BTW that guy did upgrade and then clean install with the same issue!!!
[19:01] <Randomtime> Eric-Storm: have you tried a non-USB mouse?
[19:01] <MacOS_User> I didnt run update-grub, lemme try that, I just made some changes
[19:01] <mMezquitale> arand, do you know if you can install grub in a virtual machine?
[19:01] <TheComputerGuy> What is the name of the Ubuntu Netbook Remix  applet that shows the name of the current window?
[19:01] <mbeierl> how do I enable xdcmp on ubuntu 9.04?
[19:02] <setuid> Anyone?
[19:02] <FCalderon> m0smith: good to see that you could solve it :)
[19:02] <phil_fl> BlackHawk: with what software are you trying to print ?
[19:02] <arand> mMezquitale: of course, makes no difference in theory, (and in practice from my experience)
[19:02] <Omen_20> hi. why has the super keys been disabled in Keyboard Shortcuts on 9.10?
[19:02] <phil_fl> BlackHawk: I do print Landscape pdf with Evince
[19:03] <BlackHawk> phil_fl: evince, but I think it just opens a gui for cups, so it should happen with every program
[19:03] <m0smith> Also, I had to disable to compiz or my machine locked up.  this has been a most painful upgrade
[19:03] <scott9876> anyone know of a letter by letter search tool
[19:03] <BlackHawk> phil_fl: really? do you need a certain setting?
[19:03] <Whitor> Does anyone know how I can revert to the default drivers for X? after enabling the Restricted drivers, I can not see anything on my display after reboot. (I can get to a terminal though) any ideas ?
[19:03] <lightpriest> ZykoticK9, thanks, been looking for someone else with this problem. my screen would studder aswell
[19:03] <scott9876> like I type wa and it highlights water, waiter, wait...
[19:03] <phil_fl> BlackHawk: no
[19:03] <garymaurizi> How can I save all the passwords for websites, social networking sites, messenger programs, etc, in one place/password wallet & have a single ubuntu/gnome system password too put in thats EASIER/LESS SECURE than the ones i use online, so that I may use a LONG & different password for all my online activities/different websites, and only remmember one password & have the username/password for THAT specific site stored/recalled & entered for me? IS gnom
[19:03] <garymaurizi> e-keyring the solution too this? or w/e its called?
[19:03] <Bragex9> I have just installed ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop, but it will not start properly. Only a black root screen appears.... What can I do to fix it?
[19:04] <Bragex9> I have upgraded from 9.04
[19:04] <BlackHawk> phil_fl: ok :( when I try to print it, it just prints it in portrait format, and text etc. is unreadable!
[19:04] <BlackHawk> and I already tried several pdf-files!
[19:04] <garymaurizi> Bragex9, how do you expect us too answer your question when there is absolutely no information for us too go on provided?
[19:04] <Whitor> IOW how do I reset my Xconfig to what it was prior to enabling the restricted drivers ?
[19:04] <MacOS_User> anyone know how to get Ubuntu into single user mode from the command prompt (root prompt)?
[19:04] <FCalderon> m0smith: Well, I'm downloading the upgrade files to my laptop, so I'll give it a try later
[19:04] <jcdutton> BlackHawk, evince has a page setup option
[19:05] <Randomtime> garymaurizi: if you're using firefox, you can set a master password at tools --> options --> secuirty --> use a master password, this encrypts your pasword, and plugs into FF's password manager.
[19:05] <MacOS_User> this grub stuff is too hard, I just need single user mode really
[19:05] <MacOS_User> I can figure grub out later
[19:05] <alesan> MacOS_User, should be init 1?
[19:05] <MacOS_User> that doesnt work
[19:05] <Haitham> I think it's problem with the "Host Name" - It's automatically  put to "messenger.hotmail.com" even though if you try to run it on firefox, it gives you an error.
[19:05] <jcdutton> BlackHawk, use that and then the print-preview button on the print menu option
[19:05] <MacOS_User> tried init 1 and telinit 1
[19:05] <garymaurizi> randomtime: in my question i specificed that im not just talking internet sites/social networks, im talking empathy, evolution, et.all
[19:05] <m0smith> FC:good luck
[19:05] <MacOS_User> nothing happens
[19:05] <BlackHawk> jcdutton: ahhh, thanks :) that's it!
[19:05] <Haitham> I changed it to "messanger.live.com" - will see.
[19:05] <beagleburt>  {REPEAT QUESTION FROM 06:12 -> 06:56 -> 08:06}: G'day from New Zealand everyone! Using Ubuntu 8.04 (LTS) but machine keeps dialing out while booting? It was doing this for months - I was not too worried at first as the unknown number it was dialling was wrong, but around the time 4/6 of my computer "log books" disappeared, it started connecting with whomever???(So now I just switch off modem power) Now my Gnome dialler does not w
[19:05] <beagleburt> ork? I can  only get on internet via "sudo pon". I would really appreciate any help.
[19:05] <Randomtime> garymaurizi: Keyring will work for them IIRC
[19:05] <garymaurizi> *messenger?
[19:05] <alesan> MacOS_User, boot it with init=1 as command line
[19:06] <garymaurizi> why is keyring not installed by default in karmic?
[19:06] <MacOS_User> ok, I do not want to mess with grub2 right now its too complicated, isnt there a way to just command it "down" into single user once its up?
[19:06] <Randomtime> garymaurizi: it is
[19:06] <mbeierl> ah... finally found gdm-setup.  For some reason I cannot enable the "login window" menu item but I can run  gksu /usr/sbin/gdmsetup from a terminal.  XDCMP works now, thanks
[19:06] <mMezquitale> arand, thanks for the help, so is it possible to install grub on a virtual machine using virtualbox ?
[19:06] <nameless`> hi
[19:06] <BlackHawk> jcdutton: but properties did show 'landscape format' as page setup ... and page setup itself says portrait format ... thanks for your tip, I'll try that :)
[19:06] <MacOS_User> every unix in the world takes init 1
[19:06] <nameless`> i still have trouble to add the resolution 1280x800
[19:06] <MacOS_User> or telinit 1
[19:06] <garymaurizi> randomtime: it doesnt seem like i have gnome-keyring, where do i find it?"
[19:06] <arand> MacOS_User: Hold down shift on boot
[19:06] <nameless`> please help me :)
[19:06] <youngtill1die> who can help me to configure orinoco/wlags driver?
[19:07] <Haitham> It's weird, if you put messenger.live.com (which is supposed to be the right spelling) it gives u an error on FF, but if you put it messanger.live.com - it opens live page for you.
[19:07] <Jordan_U> MacOS_User: There is nothing to mess with, there is a "recovery mode" entry by default that starts in single user mode
[19:07] <MacOS_User> nameiner: I upgraded to virtualbox 3.0.10 and it fixed it
[19:07] <Haitham> This is confusing.
[19:07] <Bragex9> garymaurizi, well I had the same problem on my other pc. Then it was something with the nvidia driver. Someone here told me what to do and it got fixed... Problem is I don't remember what I did..
[19:07] <MacOS_User> yeah just there is no menu to get it from!
[19:07] <Jordan_U> MacOS_User: You can hold shift during boot to see the grub menu
[19:07] <arand> mMezquitale: As soon as you install ubuntu in a vm grub will come with it, exactly as if you installed it to a physical drive.
[19:07] <tobiassjosten> I tried upgrading to Karmic a few hours ago. Now I am on the Live CD.. :/ In the middle of the process it paused and I hit CTRL-C, after which it continued. Now I cant boot at all, it just says it encountered "error 127".
[19:07] <MacOS_User> ok
[19:07] <MacOS_User> will try that
[19:07] <MacOS_User> how do I force the grub menu to always come up?
[19:07] <jcdutton> MacOS_User,  just edit /etc/default/grub
[19:07] <phil_fl> BlackHawk: I just tried I have evince 2.28.1
[19:07] <gnuyen> has pidgin been causing 170 cpu usage for anyone else?
[19:07] <MacOS_User> jcdutton: how?
[19:08] <akshay> ikonoa: plz elp
[19:08] <MacOS_User> jcdutton: what do I edit it to say?
[19:08] <garymaurizi> Bragex9 you are going to have too provide as much information as you can remmember, just stating your pc is black on boot and it has too do with nvidia drivers will not help you here.
[19:08] <akshay> please help me
[19:08] <setuid> Anyone?
[19:08] <arand> MacOS_User: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 documents the options, you want to comment out the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT
[19:08] <BlackHawk> jcdutton and phil_fl: it worked now :) that tip with page setup solved it!
[19:08] <Haitham> ashkay - what do you want?
[19:08] <Whitor> setuid, reask
[19:08] <FCalderon> Haitham: everything about or related to Microsoft is confusing :)
[19:08] <garymaurizi> Bragex9 consider learning now to access your system logs /var/logs using pastebin & linking us here??
[19:08] <nameless`> i have ubuntu 9.10 running over parallel under mac os x snow leopard with a macbook 5.2 2.13ghz. My problem : i want to add the resolution 1280x800 in the appearance menu. so i create the xorg.conf using X -configure and if i launch X it fails (still on the tty with the screen blinking)
[19:08] <phil_fl> BlackHawk: cool
[19:08] <MacOS_User> does it matter if I use the right or left shift key to force the menu on bootup?
[19:08] <lightpriest> ZykoticK9, could you check under which gdm user you running?
[19:08] <BlackHawk> thank you :)
[19:08] <arand> MacOS_User: Hold down shift on boot to get to the boot menu if it's hidden
[19:08] <garymaurizi> i shouldent have too tell you to do this
[19:08] <lightpriest> ZykoticK9, could you check under which gdm user is running?
[19:08] <Haitham> Indeed, that's a reason for switching to Linux.
[19:09] <lightpriest> ZykoticK9, could you check under which user gdm is running? :)
[19:09] <BlackHawk> phil_fl: and I have the same version of evince
[19:09] <Haitham> But still, there are old traces stuck with 'em, I have to use. :)
[19:09] <MacOS_User> nameless`: I install guest additions under virtualbox and it fixed that
[19:09] <jcdutton> MacOS_User, change "quiet splash" to say "single"
[19:09] <Jordan_U> nameless`: Are there any guest additions for Linux for parrallells?
[19:09] <phil_fl> BlackHawk: ok
[19:09] <MacOS_User> one sec, lemme look for that
[19:09] <nameless`> MacOS_User : i'm using parallel
[19:09] <Bragex9> garymaurizi, ok. I will try to reboot and see what error messages appearing....
[19:09] <MacOS_User> jcdutton: single will always force the menue up?
[19:09] <MacOS_User> nameless`: I do not have parallels
[19:09] <nameless`> Jordan_U what is guest additions
[19:09] <ZykoticK9> lightpriest, gdm-binary gdm-simple-slave gdm-session-worker are all run under root
[19:09] <MacOS_User> I have vmware and virtualbox
[19:09] <garymaurizi> randomtime: you have not answered my question, where is gnome keyring in karmic koala?
[19:09] <Whitor> garymaurizi, please do not be condescending. many people are unaware of where log files are kept
[19:10] <ryan__> I have my samba dir backuped via tar. I need to untar one folder from that directory. can some one give me a hand? I have been tring to use the following tar -xvf samba.tar "samba/Users/*"
[19:10] <mMezquitale> arand, ok now I see, MacOS_User doesnt see the grub2 menu appear when he boots up to his virtual machine.  That would be the first step in getting his virtual machine to boot up in single user mode, once he's able to see the menu all he has to do is edit "grub.cfg" and add an entry that will allow him to boot up to single user mode
[19:10] <jcdutton> MacOS_User, Yes, you get the menu
[19:10] <Haitham> Fellas, anyone used to have problems signing in MSN via Empathy and succeeded to override 'em?
[19:10] <lightpriest> ZykoticK9, bahh, I thought it might be allowed_users config of X, prolly not
[19:10] <lightpriest> ZykoticK9, thanks
[19:10] <garymaurizi> Whitor, it used to be in the channel TOS.
[19:10] <ryan__> but it does not seem to be working
[19:10] <Jordan_U> nameless`: Drivers for the guest OS ( in this case Ubuntu ) so that it can use the virtual hardware provided by parallels
[19:10] <Haitham> MSN Messenger *
[19:10] <MacOS_User> good grief, NO I DO NOT
[19:10] <garymaurizi> im not trying too be condescending, nor was i being--i dont appreciate you saying that too me its kind of rude
[19:10] <nameless`> Jordan_U dunno
[19:10] <Whitor> garymaurizi, still no reason to be condescending. just don't help if you don't want
[19:11] <garymaurizi> Whitor, I did help him.
[19:11] <garymaurizi> and i don't see what right you have too insult me? furthermore
[19:11] <draginx> Anyone know how to get rid of the "grey box of death" for flash in firefox (on 9.10 64 bit)?
[19:11] <Gadget3000> garymaurizi: Do you have the package already?
[19:11] <MacOS_User> brb - if you have any help for me /private it to me, as I wont be here for a sec
[19:11] <mMezquitale> !ot | garymaurizi
[19:11] <nameless`> Jordan_U jhowever, it works, just the resolution is 4:3 and i would like to add a 16:9 resolution
[19:12] <nameless`> Jordan_U it's only a matter of configuration i guess
[19:12] <pk2643532> hello. is it possible to have both KDE and Gnome installed, and then choosing what to use from the sessions menu at the login screen? i'm running Ubuntu 9.10
[19:12] <jcdutton> draginx, flash just works fine here in 9.10 64bit
[19:12] <Whitor> great, thanks for helping. I was not issuing an insult garymaurizi. I was mearly responding to your statement "<garymaurizi> i shouldent have too tell you to do this"
[19:12] <mMezquitale> pk2643532, yes it is
[19:12] <draginx> jcdutton, weird, I get odd errors when Im playing different flash players in the browser
[19:12] <garymaurizi> mMezquitale: I did not start this conversation/debate, Whitor did, I was simply responding, Is gnome keyring not installed by default on karmic? mMezquitale: further I have asked 3 questions, and answered 5 in the 10 minutes of my stay so far.
[19:12] <pk2643532> ok.
[19:12] <Jordan_U> nameless`: Don't add an Xorg.conf, and if you have remove it. You won't be able to change resolutions untill you install "Parallels Tools"
[19:12] <draginx> like multiple youtube-like sites
[19:12] <roy_hobbs> Does Karmic have the nvidia-173xx drivers working with the xorg server 1.7?
[19:12] <akshay> aciid: help me
[19:12] <pk2643532> can i get a link or some hint about how to do it?
[19:12] <MaienM> so, I noticed that in 9.10 the internal system beep is replaced by a beep sound through the boxes. is there any way to get the old system beep back? yes, the one that everyone seems to hate ;)
[19:13] <mMezquitale> garymaurizi, my suggestion is not to feed the troll
[19:13] <garymaurizi> Whitor: I said that b/c its in the channel welcome message: however i just looked and it isnt anymore, i apologize.
[19:13] <garymaurizi> Sorry mMezquitale: you are correct. I was feeding the troll
[19:13] <gnubie> draginx;  http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/releasenotes_64bit.html   I followed this exactly and flash works just fine in 64bit 4 me
[19:13]  * Whitor nom nom noms
[19:14] <ryan__> can someone tell me how to untar only on directory in an tar archive?
[19:14] <pk2643532> mMezquitale: can you give me a hint/link on how to do it ? :)
[19:14] <draginx> gnubie, thanks
[19:14] <Jordan_U> nameless`: Here is an old guide but the process should be about the same with the newest paralells and Ubuntu 9.10: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/08/15/how-to-install-ubuntu-feisty-fawn-in-os-x-using-parallels-desktop-30-a-complete-walkthrough/#tools
[19:14] <zsquareplusc> who knows which package is responsible to display the white ubuntu logo in karmic at boot? ({u,x}splash?)
[19:14] <garymaurizi> is gnome keyring installed with karmic koala by default?
[19:14] <mMezquitale> pk2643532, just install KDE using synaptic or "add/remove" or you can use command line if you want to learn
[19:14] <danlii> How can I get rid of the chooser and make gdm have a proper login window instead? It's not very practical with a list when you have 200+ users.
[19:14] <Gadget3000> ryan__: tar -xvvzf myfile.tar.gz
[19:14] <mbeierl> ryan__: tar xvf file.tar directory/that/you/want/here
[19:14] <pk2643532> ok. thanks mMezquitale :)
[19:14] <blkchameel> Anybody know how to fix "Error activating XKB config?"
[19:15] <nameless`> Jordan_U thx
[19:15] <Jordan_U> nameless`: np
[19:15] <Pici> garymaurizi: I believe it is.
[19:15] <gnubie> draginx;  only way I could get it working, hope it works 4u
[19:15] <Haitham> What is "sigspec"?
[19:15] <garymaurizi> Pici where is the wallet manager ?
[19:15] <garymaurizi> I can not find it anywhere
[19:15] <Speculater> How do I use the "Put all windows in a turn style and rotate through them"? in compiz?
[19:16] <dbruns> I'm trying to do basic administrative tasks and it asks for my password, when I type it in it says invalid. i tried typing in a plain text area to make sure it was correct, and it is  .. this is a brand new install
[19:16] <dbruns> are there any known issues along these lines?
[19:16] <ryan__> mbeierl: should the directory end with a /
[19:16] <garymaurizi> Speculator: if that option exists in compiz I have not seen it yet.
[19:16] <mbeierl> ryan__: no, it does not need to.
[19:16] <ZykoticK9> Speculater, i think you're looking for "ring switcher"
[19:16] <Pici> garymaurizi: 'wallet manager'?.  I think theres an application that might fit this in Applications>Accessories.  I don't have a GUI system in front of me to check the exact name though. I think it may have been called Encryption and Password.
[19:17] <garymaurizi> Pici: thanks ill look now
[19:17] <trism> danlii: sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 --type bool --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list 'true'
[19:17] <ryan__> mbeierl: Thanks :)
[19:17] <FCalderon> Pici: Passwords and encryption keys
[19:17] <mbeierl> ryan__: you're welcome!
[19:17] <Speculater> ring switcher eh, thanks you ZykoticK9
[19:17] <Pici> garymaurizi: As FCalderon said: Passwords and encryption keys
[19:17] <danlii> trism: Nice, thanks!!
[19:18] <MacOS_User> ok folks, I have some things to work on, I'll be back in 30 minutes or so.
[19:18] <MacOS_User> thanks everyone.
[19:18] <garymaurizi> Pici:FCalderon: This is nothing like the gnome-keyring & wallet manager in ubuntu 9.04, nor does this look associated at all with gnome-keyring?
[19:18] <blkchameel> Anybody know how to fix "Error activating XKB config"?
[19:19] <ZykoticK9> blkchameel, are you using Mac hardware?
[19:20] <cellofellow> I've been using popa3d for POP3 email and so far so good. It's lightweight and uses PAM for authentication. I'm looking to switch to IMAP, and so was wondering about a similarly lightweight and easy to configure IMAP server.
[19:21] <cellofellow> of course Ubuntu comes with Dovecot.
[19:21] <Pici> garymaurizi: Are you perhaps thinking of kwalletmanager ? Thats a KDE application and is not installed by default with Ubuntu.
[19:21] <setuid> My karmic install left me with a sources.list that only points to the cdrom, even after I told it to use universe, multiverse, partner, etc. How do I fix that?
[19:21] <garymaurizi> Pici, perhaps, but there was a very similiar app in gnome too
[19:21] <zniavre> good evening
[19:21] <dale> !grub2
[19:22] <docmur> Hello
[19:22] <petsounds> !automatix
[19:22] <zniavre>  /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/wm_use_compiz 'true' > i saw this value into gconf-editor . it is working ?
[19:22] <docmur> Has anyone here used the the wubi installer
[19:22] <Steve[cug]> Anyone happen to know how I can get a package in the 9.04 repository into 9.10?
[19:22] <ryan__> mbeierl: I am not seeing any files being recovered when running that tar -xvf samba.tar samba/users Could it be because it has not mad it to that folder yet or do i have something wrong?
[19:22] <WormDrink> hi
[19:22] <gex> hi all
[19:23] <WormDrink> whats the default ubuntu shell ?
[19:23] <gex> i cant remove wicd it says error 2
[19:23] <Pici> WormDrink: bash
[19:23] <FCalderon> ryan__: do you have GUI access?
[19:23] <docmur> WormDrink I think it's bash
[19:23] <grawity> WormDrink: The GUI - GNOME. The terminal - bash.
[19:23] <ryan__> FCalderon: yes? why
[19:23] <Pici> WormDrink: Although /bin/sh is linked to dash by default.
[19:23] <WormDrink> no, when you run /bin/sh
[19:23] <WormDrink> ah - ok
[19:23] <lifestream> Can I install Ubuntu CD image on a DVD? I don't have any virgin CDs right now
[19:23] <Adam-85> Hi all
[19:23] <FCalderon> ryan__ you can always open the file from nautilus and "copy" the directory that you want to extract
[19:23] <grawity> WormDrink: "When you run /bin/sh" is not the default one.
[19:23] <ZykoticK9> lifestream, yes - that's what i had to do too
[19:23] <Adam-85> I\m using Ubuntu 9.10 and i can\t hear any sound
[19:24] <Adam-85> anyone have an idea to fix this problem
[19:24] <lifestream> ZykoticK9: thank you :)
[19:24] <FCalderon> ryan__ well, it's archive manager not nautilus
[19:24] <thijs> I installed ubuntu karmic on my laptop, with a ati radeon mobility hd card. I can't install sun-java6-jdk because that won't let me boot anymore, are there any known bugs?
[19:24] <gex> why i cant remove this package?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/308743/
[19:24] <ryan__> My tared file it 100GB. I was not sure if Nautilus would crap out :)
[19:24] <robertj> how do I redirect stdio to both a file and stdio?
[19:24] <Adiman423> Hello all
[19:24] <robertj> I want a log of what happens interactively...
[19:24] <blkchameel> Anybody know how to fix "Error activating XKB config"?
[19:25] <gex> why i cant remove this package?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/308743/
[19:25] <Adiman423> can someone help me with seamless mode with virtualbox. I have Ubuntu 8.04 running in my VM with virtualbox
[19:26] <Sneex> OK, the ifconfig -a lists the  HWaddr of each interface as 00:15:17:b5:ec:d4 00:15:17:b5:ec:d5 00:15:17:b5:ec:e8 and 00:15:17:b5:ec:e9 -- same box or different boxes?
[19:26] <Haitham> I don't get it - What is butterfly?
[19:26] <MaienM> So, I just updated to 9.10 and noticed that the internal system beep has been replaced by a beep sound coming from the boxes. Is there any way to get the old system beep back (the one coming from your pc, not from the connected boxes/headphones)? Yes, the one that everyone seems to hate so much.
[19:27] <erUSUL> BerRMaNyA: try in #ubuntu-server
[19:27] <ZykoticK9> robertj, the redirect can be done 2& or something.  ask in #bash if you don't get an answer here.  but check out programs like "tail" for command line output from logs or if you want really facny on your X root window check out "root-tail".  good luck
[19:27] <JavaJimFL> New to Linux in general, Ubuntu in particular:  new 9.1 server install, single OS, ok till Grub install, at which point the install menu loop for that selection till I select no bootloader and then the server won't start after the install.  Any pointers?  Thanks.
[19:27] <robertj> ZykoticK9, I just found script...man that thing is awesome
[19:27] <robertj> the little gen in the man page about using with mkfifo...
[19:27] <crohakon> hmmm... to bad google earth does not work in linux...
[19:27] <robertj> err gem
[19:27] <FCalderon> gex: try dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq wicd
[19:28] <blkchameel> anybody know how to fix "error activating xkb configuration"?
[19:28] <BerRMaNyA> thankz erUSUL
[19:28] <BasiumDeJudas> Hello all.
[19:28] <kingnerd> Hey guys... I want to install Ubuntu 9.10 on my iMac (from 8.10), and I can't figure out how to boot the livecd.  The iMac's EFI won't recognize a USB drive, and when I image a FireWire HD to the boot CD using UNetBootin, it's recognized but won't start up (just sends me back to the default HD).  If I create a separate partition on my internal drive and image Ubuntu on it, is there any way to get GRUB to boot that?  Thanks so much for any help.
[19:28] <trent> I need help installing http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/12753115/com/Gyach-Enhanced-pYVoiceChat-1.0.7-1_SuSE-9.2-FULL.i586.rpm.html
[19:29] <crohakon> wtf do I do with a .bin file?
[19:29] <Deathspike> Hello - One quick question for anyone who knows, I just read the tour and found the image at games interesting (http://www.ubuntu.com/files/masthead/910/tour/ubuntu-910-games.jpg), which game is the 3D shooter app?
[19:30] <JavaJimFL> trying #ubuntu-server, thanks for the pointer
[19:30] <FCalderon> Deathspike: seems like Alien Arena
[19:30] <tertitten> crohakon: try chmod a+x filename.bin in terminal and then ./filename.bin
[19:30] <Adiman423> can someone please help me
[19:30] <crohakon> tertitten; and that will do what?
[19:31] <Deathspike> FCalderon thanks :)
[19:31] <crohakon> Deathspike; if you find out, let me know.
[19:31] <BasiumDeJudas> redownloading firefox but in the language I want....can anyone help
[19:31] <FCalderon> crohakon: it can be installed from synaptic, it's Alien Arena
[19:31] <ZykoticK9> trent, i've never done what you're trying -- but this link might help out (they install it in debian) http://jaibharat.info/blog/2004/10/31/gyach-yahooim-with-webcam-on-debian-gnulinux
[19:31] <sergeykish> Hello,
[19:31] <bercik> Good day all
[19:31] <blkchameel> Error activating XKB configuration. Can anyone help?
[19:31] <P_r_i_m_a_t> hey everyone, I need to rebuild mysql, where can I get ./configure options for this pkg: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.1/5.1.37-1ubuntu5 ?
[19:31] <tertitten> crohakon: that will hopefully execute the file :)
[19:32] <BasiumDeJudas> wow that game looks cool where and how do you download that one.
[19:32] <rzr> hi
[19:32] <FCalderon> BasiumDeJudas: Again, use synaptic, it's there, it's called Alien Arena
[19:32] <sergeykish> After update system doesn't remove /dev/ttyACM0 on removing Symbian smartphone (USB interface)
[19:32] <sergeykish> how can I google it?
[19:32] <bercik> Is somebody using HP F2480 all-in-one? Is there such a nice utilities pack as in Windows?
[19:32] <rzr> can you help; i cant figure out where to configure a ppp modem w/ network manager
[19:32] <hillshum> This page is getting vandalized: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_fandom
[19:32] <hillshum> Err.
[19:33] <Pici> hillshum: yeah, wrong channel.
[19:34] <BasiumDeJudas> how do i reinstall firefox with another interface languauge. I have found it on FF web site but i have no clue what to do with a (tar.bz) file or wher eto put it.
[19:34] <petsounds> im on ubuntu NBR, sometimes i like to change into desktop mode, on the previous version i can use desktop-switcher but with karmic i'm no longer can search for it on synaptic, is there a way to install desktop-switcher? thanks
[19:34] <Haitham> I knew smth since Installation, that Linux Core doesn't accept .exe Installers, what is the other alternative?
[19:34] <ArchType> How can I burn Ubuntu 9.4 to a USB drive?
[19:34] <crohakon> tertitten; he, it seems to work. Thanks. Google Earth for Linux here I come
[19:35] <tertitten> :)
[19:35] <blkchameel> Error activating XKB configuration. Can anyone help?
[19:35] <FCalderon> BasiumDeJudas: You can install additional language support for firefox from Synaptic
[19:35] <MasterofPuppets> Hello world. Getting a weird error when I boot up; says something about vga=758 being deprecated, then the system loads up normally. Any ideas?
[19:35] <Adiman423> someone please help me!!!!!
[19:35] <crohakon> tertitten; I know that the ./ was executing the file... but what does chmod a+x set? I know what chmod does... just never used a+x
[19:36] <dale> can anyone help me not have my fans running constantly? I have tried GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=\\\"Linux\\\"" and every variant thereof
[19:36] <Docteh> crohakon: All+eXecutable
[19:36] <FCalderon> MasterofPuppets: That's not an error, just a warning that a parameter is being deprecated
[19:36] <crohakon> Docteh; ahh, thanks.
[19:36] <dick> You need to burn the iso image to a cd, do you know how to do that?
[19:36] <tertitten> crohakon: a+x makes the file executable .... All+Executable
[19:36] <MasterofPuppets> FCalderon: Oh, so it'll fix itself?
[19:36] <FCalderon> MasterofPuppets: you can remove it from your grub config
[19:36] <mbeierl> ryan__: sorry - back now.  when you "tar tvf samba.tar" does "samba/users" show up, or is it "/samba/users"?
[19:36] <kahen> sounds in wine is very choppy (no games. just foobar2000). does anyone have any tips?
[19:36] <paissad> i have no more sound from my pc ...  just and only changed the motherboard
[19:37] <paissad> how can i fix it ?
[19:37] <FCalderon> MasterofPuppets: Mostly sure it will just be ignored, but as I said, you can manually remove it
[19:37] <lianimator> hi, can I switch the keyboard layout temporarily when I press a modifier key. and back to the old layout on key release? (am a dvorak user wanting qwerty shortcuts)
[19:37] <erUSUL> !appdb | kahen
[19:37] <MasterofPuppets> FCalderon: As long as it's not affecting my 15-second boot times, I don't mind :P
[19:37] <kahen> erUSUL: it worked fine in Jaunty before i installed Karmic (fresh install)
[19:37] <dick> oops, ArchType, forget my comment, I misread your post!
[19:38] <FCalderon> MasterofPuppets: it shouldn't
[19:38] <philluminati> Anyone see that article on TheRegister?
[19:38] <blkchameel> Error activating XKB configuration. Can anyone help?
[19:38] <amodro262> Good afternoon, everyone.  I'm having a problem with gnome-appearances-properties and I was wondering if someone could help me.
[19:39] <saba> Hello, my voice sounds like it's an alien speaking when I'm using the microphone (extern and intern on my laptop)
[19:39] <saba> what can be wrong?
[19:39] <rzr> you might be an alien
[19:39] <rzr> :)
[19:39] <phifty> #cells
[19:39] <FCalderon> saba: stop smoking (j/k)
[19:40] <amodro262> Occam's Razor strikes again, hey?
[19:40] <saba> FCalderon: I was going to, just have to fix the microphone so I can document (j/k)
[19:41] <Sneex> peace guys and thanks :)
[19:41] <amodro262> For anybody who might be looking, my problem is that when I try to change my desktop background, the process hangs, and spikes CPU usage through the roof.  If left to its own devices it will occasionally finish loading and I can then change my theme or desktop wallpaper.  Sometimes it locks up my entire system.
[19:41] <FCalderon> saba: seriously, make sure that you're using the default sound handler for your microphone, also make sure that you're not using 100% of your CPU as that can sometimes mess with sound processing
[19:41] <beagleburt>   {REPEAT QUESTION FROM 06:12 -> 06:56 -> 08:06 -> 08:42}: G'day from New Zealand everyone! Using Ubuntu 8.04 (LTS) but machine keeps dialing out while booting? It was doing this for months - I was not too worried at first as the unknown number it was dialling was wrong, but around the time 4/6 of my computer "log books" disappeared, it started connecting with whomever???(So now I just switch off modem power) Now my Gnome dialler
[19:41] <beagleburt> does not work?  I can  only get on internet via "sudo pon". I would really appreciate any help.
[19:41] <amodro262> I did some Google searching and it seems to be similar to a bug that was being reported a couple years back, but the solutions offered didn't seem to have anything to do with my setup -- a lot of talk about a hidden gtk folder.
[19:42] <blkchameel> Error activating XKB configuration. Can anyone help?
[19:42] <amodro262> Trying to run it in a terminal netted me this error:  (gnome-appearance-properties:3074): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_sync: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed
[19:43] <amodro262> Putting that into Google netted me a lot of things I didn't have a chance of understanding, and no apparent simple fixes.  So, I'm stuck.
[19:43] <craig_> SD card not auto mounting after ugrade to Karmic. Googled to no avail. Can I provide any debug?
[19:43] <saba> FCalderon: default sound handler? I'm using Skype and ALSA
[19:43] <ArchType> How can I burn Ubuntu 9.4 to a USB drive?
[19:44] <ArchType> !usb
[19:44] <FCalderon> saba: does your voice sound distorted in other apps or just skype?
[19:45] <beagleburt> !notify
[19:45] <saba> FCalderon: in all apps
[19:46] <beagleburt> !sounds
[19:46] <KeithMc-Kay> hello
[19:46] <Klatuferatanektu> hi, i installed kde-desktop environment on my ubuntu 9.04 gnome machine for testing purposes. now, i have lots of kde stuff on my hd and i dont know how to get rid of it.
[19:47] <mhz> anyone have a guide or the steps for adobe flash player install on 64bit?
[19:47] <amodro262> Anybody?  Nobody?
[19:47] <CSWookie> What's the simplest way for me to make my computer beep on command?  I installed the beep program, but it doesn't work.
[19:47] <Halitech> Klatuferatanektu, see here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[19:48] <CSWookie> Is there maybe a way to tell pulseaudio to emit a tone of a certain length and frequency?
[19:48] <mbeierl> mhz: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-installer did not work for you?
[19:49] <Maraja> hi evrybody! i've instaled ubuntu 9.10 but my microphone doesn work. What should i do?
[19:49] <maestrojed> I am trying to add a cron that executes a php script every 10mins. I added this to /etc/crontab but it is not working. "*/10 * * * * /usr/bin/php5 /home/maestrojed/html/webApp/data/runUpdates.php > /dev/null", any suggestions what I am doing wrong?
[19:49] <mhz> didnt know it was included actually
[19:49] <SmnLpz> what irc client do people usually use? im on xchat-gnome. anyone want to recomend me another client maybe a more mainstream one? :)
[19:49] <mhz> doing thatn ow
[19:49] <KeithMc-Kay> I have having royal issues with 9.10, no sound, crashes alot, so I dropped back to 9.04, the only problem here is the webcam, http://img267.imageshack.us/i/screenshotzh.png/
[19:49] <kingnerd> Hey guys.  I want to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.10 on this iMac, but I can't get the LiveCD to boot.  I tried imaging to a USB drive, but iMac can't boot from USB, so I put it on a FireWire external.  It's recognized, but when I try to boot from it, it just boots from my internal HD.  Is there any way I can create an image on my internal HD, and use Grub to boot that?
[19:49] <graft> SmnLpz: irssi
[19:50] <SoftwareExplorer> SmnLpz: Pidgin is what I use
[19:50] <graft> SmnLpz: pidgin also has irc support
[19:50] <Tartaros> "quickly" is telling me I have no ppa to share my package to, but in fact I do have a ppa. Wuts going on?
[19:50] <tpe> mhz: sudo aptitude installl flashplugin-installer will grab the 32-bit one (it did for me), try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1259102
[19:50] <SmnLpz> want a only irc client...
[19:50] <CSWookie> irssi, SmnLpz
[19:51] <phibxr> SmnLpz: i'd say xchat is about as mainstream as you can get. :) i use xchat, though, not specifically xchat-gnome. perhaps it's just a meta-package for the same client or something though.
[19:51] <amodro262> Please, can somebody at least acknowledge that they saw my question?
[19:51] <ZykoticK9> SmnLpz, i really dislike the "gnome-xchat" but i use default xchat
[19:51] <oorah> when is array.org making a kernel for Ubuntu 9.10?
[19:51] <mbeierl> CSWookie: for pulse tone: a but of a sledgehammer, but you could try creating a tone file and playing it with mpg123
[19:52] <mhz> hmm
[19:52] <Eric-Storm> I have Ubuntu 9.10 64bit... After about 10 minutes my USB mouse freezes. I've tried other mice it happens just the same. Anyone know how to fix my mouse from freezing?
[19:52] <Tartaros> amodro262: we saw your question
[19:52] <Maraja> humm.. this mic used to work fine on windows. When i instaleed ubuntu 9.04 it recorded my foice on soundrecorder but i couldńt use skype.
[19:52] <rakslice|w> amodro262: if you think your irc client isn't working, there are plenty of channels that don't have 1700 people in them for you to test in =)
[19:52] <mhz> thanks tpe, i'll give it a shot
[19:52] <number2_> Eric-Storm: i had that happen before, you using a laptop?
[19:52] <CSWookie> mbeierl: That is a bit of a sledgehammer.  And I want to use it from inside of irssi, so I'd like it to be a very simple thing.
[19:53] <phibxr> ZykoticK9: same here. i remember disliking gnome-xchat.
[19:53] <amodro262> My IRC client is fine.  If nobody knows the answer to my question, that's fine too, but just ignoring me isn't very nice.
[19:53] <Tartaros> rakslice|w: I'd say more like he's desperate for the answer :o
[19:53] <FCalderon> Eric-Storm: are you sure that it's the mouse that freezes? everything else keeps working?
[19:53] <amodro262> I can try to provide more information if necessary.
[19:53] <Klatuferatanektu> Halitech, thx very much. this looks perfectly like what i need
[19:53] <CSWookie> It seems like ubuntu has done backflips to make it hard for me to make my computer beep when I want it to.
[19:53] <oorah> i bought a hammer but it didn't work so i returned it to the hardware store lol
[19:53] <Eric-Storm> Yes im sure. Keyboard and everything else is still fully functioning.
[19:53] <Tartaros> amodro262: do you expect all the 1000 people to tell you "I don't know"?
[19:53] <Halitech> Klatuferatanektu, glad to help out
[19:53] <Eric-Storm> The mouse's light is still on, however it no longer responds.
[19:53] <amodro262> No, but it would be nice if one or two people said something, especially with other people coming in and getting immediate responses.
[19:53] <fixxxerm1t> I have ubuntu 9.04 32bit with /home as a separate partition.  I want to do a fresh install of 9.10 64bit.  How do I do this correctly?
[19:54] <Tartaros> amodro262: anyway you can try providing the information at which point exactly it is that your processor spikes
[19:54] <darlek> amodro262, it's a busy board, if you get a hit that's great, if not, don't take it so personally
[19:54] <Docteh> amodro262: I do that occasionally, but right now im distracted ;)
[19:54] <oorah> when is array.org making a kernel for Ubuntu 9.10?
[19:54] <phibxr> amodro262: it looked like a strange issue that i've never seen before, that's why i didn't bother replying. i probably wouldn't be able to solve it no matter how much information i requested from you. :)
[19:54] <amodro262> Tartaros: Either when I click on "Change Desktop Background" or run gnome-appearance-properties in a terminal.
[19:54] <djoaza> irc://irc.abuser.pl/bimbrownia.org
[19:55] <SmnLpz> so for irsis can i do sudo apt-get irssi ?
[19:55] <setuid> My karmic install left me with a sources.list that only points to the cdrom, even after I told it to use universe, multiverse, partner, etc. How do I fix that?
[19:55] <amodro262> I did it with a click while running top in a terminal and it immediately shot up to about 75% CPU, then kept climbing.
[19:55] <darlek> !ubottu | darlek
[19:55] <setuid> n/m, I found it
[19:55] <Tartaros> did you try reinstalling the gnome-appearance-properties thingy with apt or synaptic?
[19:55] <joshstrobl> hello peeps
[19:55] <craig_> SD card not auto mounting after upgrade to 9.10 from 9.04. Has anyone else had this problem and can I provide any sort of debug or log file?
[19:55] <Tartaros> or, did you try reinstalling the themes?
[19:56] <darlek> !sources.list | setuid
[19:56] <lakis> i have installed kubuntu karmic .. what should i do so that every time i log to kubuntu the NTFS partition that has the windows installed is mounted automatically ??? please help ..
[19:56] <amodro262> Tartaros: I actually installed Xfce and completely removed Gnome, then reinstalled Gnome and it's still happening.
[19:56] <dale> having problem with the fan running constantly, ive tried acpi_osi=Linux, any othe suggestions?
[19:56] <amodro262> Doesn't happen under Xfce, though.
[19:57] <unperson> Hi.  I have a USB keychain drive that I want to put a bootable copy of Ubuntu on.  I have the 9.10 ISO and drive, and a computer running an old copy of Xandros.  Is there a stand alone tool I can easily download to make the bootable USB drive?
[19:57] <Tartaros> lakis: it should be, unless it's ntfs-hidden, you can tell by running the disk utility from Administration menu
[19:57] <amodro262> I just upgraded to Karmic last night, btw.  I didn't mention that, my mistake.
[19:57] <kingnerd> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8234149#post8234149
[19:57] <kingnerd> unperson, unetbootin
[19:57] <mhz> sweet
[19:57] <kingnerd> unperson, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[19:57] <mhz> flash player working
[19:57] <Randomtime> !unetbootin
[19:57] <BenG92> Jordan_U: It's all up and working! so far
[19:57] <darlek> !fan | dale
[19:57] <verywiseman> anybody here work with samhain?
[19:57] <Tartaros> amodro262: well sorry then I'm afraid I have no idea :o
[19:58] <amodro262> Tartaros: It's okay.  Thank you for thinking about it, I do appreciate it.  I'll try the main forums.
[19:58] <BenG92> what IRC chat programs work on 9.10
[19:58] <craig_> chatZilla
[19:58] <joakimk> WHen I open a ssh connection from Terminal, and leave it for a while, the remote prompt freezes, and I have to close the window and open a new connection... Any way to keep-alive ssh connections? Is this a server-side setting (I am not root at the remote machine)?
[19:58] <grawity> BenG92: irssi, weechat, Xchat, Pidgin, Chatzilla
[19:58] <oorah> BenG92, xchat is a good one
[19:58] <SmnLpz> so for irsis can i do sudo apt-get irssi ?
[19:58] <Tartaros> I just upgraded to karmic too btw, and can change appearance with no problem...
[19:58] <BenG92> ok, thanks guys i'll try Xchat
[19:58] <CSWookie> SmnLpz: apt-get install irssi
[19:59] <SmnLpz> CSWookie,  thanks gonna try that
[19:59] <unperson> kingnerd, Thanks.  That looks like it ought to do the trick.
[19:59] <amodro262> Tartaros: Yeah, a friend of mine had no problem either, and he's as stumped as we are.  Again, thanks for listening.
[19:59] <grawity> SmnLpz: ...what CSWookie said, but with "sudo "
[19:59] <amodro262> Have a good day, folks.
[19:59] <Tartaros> BenG92: irc client is one of the most abundant applications ever, you should have no problem finding one :D
[19:59] <alnr> i misconfigured the keyboard while install a server. eg /=-, -=' etc. i tried running dpkg-reconfigure console-data to no avail. it didnt seem to offer the same choices as install, eg 101-key keyboard. any idea what to try next
[19:59] <tox> ciao
[20:00] <RaverWild> hello. guys please help -newbie- jaunty here. have eth0 and wlan0 working but on network manager cant set connection to get from eth0. works only on wifi. how to manually set my internet to connect using my cable?
[20:00] <Bragex9> Here is what happened after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10: Ubuntu will not start. When I start in recovery mode then the screen shows the progress. Then it says: one or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted. And then it says generall error mounting filesystems. What can I do to fix this?
[20:00] <norbi> hy all, i`m a newbie in linux systems
[20:00] <addisonj_> anyone here have invites to get jolicloud?
[20:00] <lucas__> To all who tried to help me, i fixed it by instead of using a cd. I booted from an usb stick:)
[20:00] <Haitham> I have a SoundMax 4.1 Surround System, and the OS doesn't seem to find the appropriate driver for it, so it's playing Stereo Mode now, any ideas?
[20:00] <norbi> im trying to run compiz
[20:00] <mhz> anyone have recommendations for xml diagramming, etc. on linux?
[20:00] <darlek> BenG92, use "aptitude search irc" from the command line or run Synaptic from System Admin to find the programs
[20:00] <norbi> but it gives me an error when i try to run it: compiz --replace
[20:00] <BlackFate> Bragex9, do you have nvidia with manually installed drivers from the site?
[20:00] <beagleburt>  {REPEAT QUESTION FROM 06:12 -> 06:56 -> 08:06 -> 08:42 -> 09:02}: G'day from New Zealand everyone! Using Ubuntu 8.04 (LTS) but machine keeps dialing out while booting? It was doing this for months - I was not too worried at first as the unknown number it was dialling was wrong, but around the time 4/6 of my computer "log books" disappeared, it started connecting with whomever???(So now I just switch off modem power) Now my Gnome
[20:00] <beagleburt> dialler does not work? I can only get internet via "sudo pon". I would really appreciate any help.
[20:01] <BenG92> Oo thanks darlek
[20:01] <SmnLpz> CSWookie, that whent fine in terminal. but where in my menu is it? cant see it :)
[20:01] <Thundercross> *WB(bowser)WB* - <Bowser> wheee! <Bowser> http://reality.homelinux.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=4298 <Bowser> I want to play DDR against a ghost.
[20:01] <soreau> norbi: Pastebin the error to pastebin.com It might be easier to help you in #compiz
[20:01] <Bragex9> blackfate, I am not sure about nvidia. But I think I have them manually installed...
[20:02] <norbi> ok
[20:02] <norbi> thanks for helping!
[20:02] <RaverWild> hello. guys please help -newbie- jaunty here. have eth0 and wlan0 working but on network manager cant set connection to get from eth0. works only on wifi. how to manually set my internet to connect using my cable?
[20:02] <ZykoticK9> joakim-, fyi there is an "IdleTimeout" option in sshd - so perhaps that is set?  bad news for you i guess.
[20:02] <dale> cheers echo "on" > /proc/acpi/fan/FAN/state give me a permission denied though
[20:02] <dale> even with sudo
[20:02] <BenG92> im really new to all of this, whats the easiest way to download a client?
[20:02] <BlackFate> Bragex9, if you try to control + alt + f1 does your monitor flicker?
[20:02] <dale> and cat gives me status: off
[20:02] <joakimk> ZykoticK9: and this is a server setting, then?
[20:02] <darlek> beagleburt, sorry, i haven't used a modem in more than 10 years
[20:02] <Flannel> dale: echo "on" | sudo tee /proc/etc/etc/etc
[20:03] <darlek> !modem | beagleburt
[20:03] <brandon_> anyone know where to get the ubuntu minimal cd for karmic?
[20:03] <ZykoticK9> joakim-, yes
[20:03] <brandon_> i cant find it
[20:03] <Docteh> Thundercross: you should turn off the greeting functions of your client
[20:03] <darlek> beagleburt, that link might have info for you
[20:03] <grawity> BenG92: The same way you download other Ubuntu programs -- either "Add/Remove", or Synaptic, or "sudo apt-get install"
[20:03] <Bragex9> blackfate, no reaction with alt+f1
[20:03] <grawity> BenG92: For example, the command "sudo apt-get install irssi xchat" will get you both irssi and Xchat at once.
[20:03] <ingenius> Hi .. Some can help me with something .. I remember in 9.04 version have a C++ Sockets Library package .. but in 9.10 I can't find it
[20:03] <brandon_> nobody knows eh?
[20:03] <BlackFate> Bragex9, you need to boot live cd and fix that
[20:03] <Docteh> brandon_: the minimal cd isn't in the regular place?
 Thankyou! Will check out link now.
[20:04] <brandon_> not for karmic
[20:04] <oorah> when is array.org making a kernel for Ubuntu 9.10? or how bout gyachi?
[20:04] <dale> awesome, cheers, will give that a try
[20:04] <BenG92> oo thanks grawity
[20:04] <brandon_> any ideas?
[20:04] <n16h7f0x> if after installed apache /var/www was reacreated is there any chance i can recover it's containment? (ext4 filesystem)
[20:05] <lakis> tartaros how do i do this ?
[20:05] <Milligan> Good evening .. I just went to 9.10, and here's a funny bug; If I start a video file in totem, the colours channels will be all messe up. Where one is ment to see i.e human skin, there is more of a blue/purple tone.. (No, I'm not trying to watch porn :) )
[20:05] <Bragex9> blackfate, how do I boot live cd? (I am a completely newbie to ubuntu..)
[20:05] <lakis> to run disk utility
[20:05] <bowser> hi all, after upgrade to kubunut karmic, no media player displays video (vlc, kaffeine, miro) I do have medibuntu repo & packages
[20:05] <brandon_> ugh
[20:05] <Docteh> brandon_: try digging around a server with the repo, it might be in there since its small
[20:05] <bowser> sound works though
[20:05] <grawity> BenG92: Also "sudo aptitude install blah blah" - may be easier to remember than apt-get. Or, System -> Administration -> Synaptic, for a graphical way.
[20:05] <Tartaros> lakis: ubuntu menu - System - Preferences - Disk Utility
[20:05] <Docteh> brandon_: you could always pxe boot karmic
[20:06] <brandon_> pxe?
[20:06] <BlackFate> Bragex9, insert the ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10 live cd and boot it
[20:06] <gletob> How can I link to another instance of Grub from inside of Ubuntu?  I've got a second grub file on /dev/sda4 in /boot/grub/menu.lst that I'd like to be able to run from my current Grub
[20:06] <lakis> i have kubuntu
[20:06] <Tartaros> bowser: I have it vice versa :D video works, sound doesnt
[20:06] <darlek_> Milligan, only in totem?  how about mplayer or vlc?
[20:06] <Milligan> darlek, same in all of em
[20:06] <darlek_> hmm
[20:06] <Tartaros> bowser: what's "medibuntu" btw?
[20:06] <grawity> gletob: Search for "chainloading"
[20:06] <BenG92> thanks grawity :)
[20:07] <brandon_> seriously, nobody knows where to get the karmic minimal install?
[20:07] <bowser> Tartaros: packages with codecs that cannot be distributed by ubuntu
[20:07] <RaverWild> help please - how to set my internet connection in  jaunty?
[20:07] <Bragex9> blackfate, what if I don't have a live CD? Can I make one on another PC with the latest version of ubuntu?
[20:07] <FCalderon> gotta go, going to upgrade to 9.10 to see how it goes :)
[20:07] <Tartaros> bowser: oh, sounds yummy. Where do I get them?
[20:07] <FCalderon> bye 2 all
[20:07] <darlek_> Milligan, sorry I really don't know
[20:07] <newser> hello, I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10. How can I put the icons and graphical improvements from 9.10?
[20:07] <Docteh> haha i was going to go to my laptop to find it for him, ah well
[20:08] <darlek_> !video | Milligan
[20:08] <BlackFate> Bragex9, yes you can
[20:08] <darlek_> Milligan, that might help
[20:08] <bowser> Tartaros: you'll find info on medibuntu.org
[20:08] <Milligan> darlek, haha, I found the problem;
[20:08] <Docteh> !minimal
[20:08] <darlek_> Milligan, oh?  do share!
[20:08] <Milligan> darlek, "What happened is that the colorbalance was changed. Go to the Totem (!) mediaplayer, edit, preferences, second tab, press the button restore default."
[20:08] <Tartaros> bowser: yeah google told me already, thanks :D
[20:08] <Bragex9> Blackfate, What about the files that I have on the computer that will not start? Will it be lost?
[20:09] <Milligan> darlek, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/308390
[20:09] <darlek_> Milligan, great, good to know!
[20:09] <BenG92> Thanks for all your help for everyone who's helped! really good channel :) i'll be back here if i need you again :P
[20:09] <oorah> when is array.org making a kernel for Ubuntu 9.10? or how bout gyachi for karmic??
[20:09] <Persona> hi!
[20:09] <Tamale> Hi all, my main menu is messed up after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10.  "Places" and "System" are both half the height of all other elements and it's very difficult to mouse over them. Help please!
[20:09] <Milligan> darlek, odd but easily solved problem, luckily.
[20:09] <Haitham> Why I don't have the "Permission" to view a Folder called "root" in System Files &/or "Lost&Found" folder?
[20:09] <BlackFate> Bragex9, no dont worry... everything is safe
[20:09] <Docteh> oorah: whats array.org?
[20:09] <mvalviar> hi
[20:09] <bowser> i guess medibuntu is still needed in karmic, right?
[20:09] <darlek_> Milligan, yes I've noticed this with firefox and others, if I use a default profile the software is okay.  Seems there is a hiccup in the profile copying or whatever
[20:09] <LjL> bowser: medibuntu is not "needed" in any release.
[20:10] <Bragex9> blackfate, thanks! I will go make a cd now
[20:10] <llutz> Halitech: because they are owned by root
[20:10] <LjL> it might be wanted by the user.
[20:10] <Eric-Storm> I have Ubuntu 9.10 64bit... After about 10 minutes my USB mouse freezes. I've tried other mice it happens just the same. Anyone know how to fix my mouse from freezing?
[20:10] <bowser> LjL: to play some multimedia formats
[20:10] <darlek_> Milligan, so if any other programs act weird, look for default resets.  Thanks again
[20:10] <oorah> Docteh, its a site that has the installation instructions for a customized kernel, its optimized for intel atom processors mainly for netbooks
[20:10] <Tartaros> llutz: you answered to someone else :D
[20:10] <mvalviar> I just installed ubuntu studio. I noticed that the pop up message bubbles are no longer black. It it the same with the normal ubuntu KK?
[20:10] <Halitech> llutz, huh?
[20:10] <llutz> ups
[20:10] <Milligan> darlek, seems like the default profile setting in totem has fixed the problem for vlc and other players as well.. beats me why, but like you, I will keep the "default settings button trick" at mind.
[20:11] <LjL> bowser: well, which formats are encumbered by parents hasn't changed since last release
[20:11] <Persona> anybody with black screen on shutdown but not on restar o heard of it?
[20:11] <llutz> Haitham:  because they are owned by root
[20:11] <llutz> Halitech: sry
[20:11] <Lemons> Hey anyone here that can help me with a problem?
[20:11] <andreo> !ssh
[20:11] <andreo>  
[20:11] <darlek_> Milligan, cool
[20:11] <Haitham> I don't get it "owned by root" ?
[20:11] <Tartaros> Lemons: don't ask if you can ask, ask away
[20:11] <Halitech> llutz, np, just had me confused for a second
[20:11] <Haitham> Means no-one even the Desktop owner can access them?
[20:11] <egoTripper88> Is it possible to mount ufs volumes under Ubuntu?
[20:11] <darlek_> !ask | Lemons
[20:12] <llutz> Haitham: then go read some basics about users and permissions in unixoid-OSes
[20:12] <Eric-Storm> I have Ubuntu 9.10 64bit... After about 10 minutes my USB mouse freezes. I've tried other mice it happens just the same. Anyone know how to fix my mouse from freezing?
[20:12] <Haitham> I will.
[20:12] <Haitham> :)
[20:12] <Halitech> Haitham, means the system owns the files, you only own what is in your home folder
[20:12] <arand> !sudo | Halitech
[20:12] <arand> !sudo | Haitham
[20:12] <arand> Halitech: sorry
[20:13] <Haitham> Thanks
[20:13] <Halitech> arand, seems I'm a popular guy for getting answers I don't need ;)
[20:13] <Haitham> I'll check it out.
[20:13] <newser> Eric-Storm, I had the same problem. I couldn't fix it so I switched to linux mint :S
[20:13] <oorah> is there a way to fix the bug on the msi wind? screen brightness keeps flickering up and down when i try to change it. i changed dim display to never because thats when it does it and also does it when i try to adjust it
[20:13] <Haitham> Another question, where is the old "Windows" directory can be found? In case there is on.
[20:14] <Tartaros> Haitham: depends entirely on how and where you installed ubuntu
[20:14] <Lemons> Im doing my senior project in highschool on operating systems and for my product I built a linux cluster and used it to render some images and did the same with windows. Now I need to do something that helps the community, any idea on something Linux related that I can do that would help the community. I was thinkingi giving away free ubuntu cd's and answering questions and such but apperntly thats not good enough.
[20:15] <MrDusty> Who here has had issues with 9.10 in regards to X starting up (odd screen flickers) ?
[20:15] <Tartaros> Lemons: guess it depends on what you're able to do :)
[20:15] <SmnLpz> gonna explore irssi another day. but for xchat. how do i instruct xchat to automaticaly do  /msg NickServ identify <password>. when i connect to server?
[20:15] <Lemons> Well any ideas and i'll tell you if I can do them?
[20:15] <Haitham> It was messed up, I think I deleted the so was "C" partition which included windows, but never succeded the "Manual" partitioning method, so I clicked back and it seemed like Windows version was still there, even though I did delete/format many times the same space area, so could it be gone?
[20:15] <MrDusty> SmnLpz, In the server configuration section you can place your password.
[20:15] <grawity> SmnLpz: You don't... a better way is to add the "Server password" in Network Settings.
[20:15] <darlek_> MrDusty, I get it loading twice but it otherwise works.  doubles the load time though.  Funny enough restarting works faster than shutting down
[20:16] <mvalviar> can i configure where the pop up messages appear?
[20:16] <Tartaros> SmnLpz: if you use Empathy or Pidgin they have automatic login with nickserv already built in :)
[20:16] <MrDusty> darlek, I am not happy with how X is performing, its sluggish, and just doesn't feel right. :(
[20:16] <grawity> SmnLpz: Note - try "Server password" box first. Only if it doesn't work, then try "Nickserv password"
[20:16] <arand> Lemons: Organize a LUG/Talk/workshop?
[20:16] <grawity> Tartaros: Uhh. _ALL_ IRC clients have that.
[20:16] <arand> mvalviar: in short no.
[20:16] <grawity> Tartaros: Especially Xchat.
[20:16] <Halitech> MrDusty, what video card?
[20:17] <darlek_> MrDusty, oh.  in my case after it loads everything is fine.
[20:17] <MrDusty> Halitech,  GeForce 9500 GT .. well supported.
[20:17] <Tartaros> ok then, I never liked xchat for some reason, but so be it :)
[20:17] <mvalviar> Tartaros: is it yellow again? In jaunty it is black
[20:17] <Halitech> MrDusty, did you install the drivers for it?
[20:17] <gletob> Hey grawity I tried that and that links the whole partition, that doesn't work I need to link grub to an actuall 2nd menu.lst file.
[20:17] <MrDusty> Halitech, Yes.  I am using restricted-drivers and configured X using nvidia-settings.
[20:18] <Tartaros> mvalviar: no idea, last time seen it years ago and it was black and I hated it :)
[20:18] <grawity> gletob: Ah :| I misunderstood what you were trying to do.
[20:18] <MrDusty> I have been using Linux for a looong time,  it's not that I havn't configured correctly.
[20:18] <lunaphyte_> hi.  i've just updated from 9.04 to 9.1 and i'm having trouble booting in non rescue mode.  when booting normally, i see grub, and the kernel begins to boot, but eventually the screen goes black.  how can i troubleshoot this?
[20:18] <Tartaros> Lemons: well can you code? can you draw? can you translate? can you ...? :)
[20:18] <MrDusty> AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ with 3GB ram, and X seems really clinky.. not smooth...
[20:18] <Lemons> I can uh talk very well infront of lots of people
[20:19] <SmnLpz> and it works... server pass :)
[20:19] <darthanubis> MrDusty, no such issues here
[20:19] <darthanubis> video[nVidia Corporation G96 [GeForce 9500 GT] @ Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset DRAM Controller]
[20:19] <MrDusty> hmm odd
[20:19] <revo_> Can anyone help? my CPU keeps saying itss 80% in use, but using top etc nothing shows up as using any CPU?
[20:19] <revo_> Doesnt add up
[20:19] <MrDusty> darthanubis, for instance now.. my xchat screen with the text moving upwards as everyone in the channel speaks, it moves like the olden day computers like a line at a time, its not smooth really jagged if you get what I mean? Any ideas what could  be causing this #;
[20:20] <Tartaros> Lemons: umm... ok :D
[20:20] <revo_> MrDusty: sounds like graphics driver
[20:20] <webbb82> i have a very annoying bug   it happens on a few apps but when i open or start the app   then if i click on the app anywhere it will jump up and then click again and it will jump down making use the app impossible
[20:20] <phibxr> MrDusty: yep, graphics driver i'd say too.
[20:20] <gletob> I agree
[20:20] <rosebj> revo_, are you doind sudo top?
[20:20] <revo_> Yes
[20:20] <Pici> !contribute | Lemons this might help you get started
[20:21] <revo_> Any process management tool says the same
[20:21] <revo_> "nothing" us using all this CPU
[20:21] <revo_> memory stays low, no swapping
[20:21] <alnr> whats the pkg name of openssh server , i've tried openssh,openssh-server,ssh,ssh-server
[20:21] <gletob> alnr, ssh
[20:21] <grawity> !info openssh-server
[20:21] <grawity> alnr: It's openssh-server.
[20:21] <Tartaros> MrDusty: disabled acceleration? could be too big screen, does it make even on smaller resolution? :)
[20:21] <Venin> in ubuntu netbook remix, how do I see normal gnome?
[20:22] <alnr> grawity: i thought so, but it doesnt find it even aptitude only shows openssh-client. maybe i need to update
[20:22] <Tartaros> Venin: what do you see instead?
[20:22] <beagleburt> /away WEBSEARCH
[20:22] <mbeierl> anyone else have a problem with pidgin not being able to receive files over msn protocol in karmic?
[20:23] <michael_campbell> Ok, admitting my stupid here.  How do I change the ridiculous "My Passport" name WD defaulted my USB HD with to something else without a #$!#$ space in it?   It auto-mounts as /dev/sdd1
[20:23] <Jordan_U> gletob: You can use the "configfile" command in your menu.lst ( grub legacy ) or grub.conf ( grub 2 )
[20:23] <Tartaros> michael_campbell: DIsk utility?
[20:23] <jiffe> alright, this is weird..
[20:23] <Ljungmann> Where can I find a log of what is printed on the xsplash?
[20:24] <michael_campbell> Tartaros, I'll try that.  Thanks.   I know I can mount it in VirtualBox and do it in Windows, but then I have to go shower.
[20:24] <Matilda> how can I find my hardware in ubuntu what soundcard do I have, how big is my RAM and how mutch memory do I have on my computer???
[20:24] <phisher1> much*
[20:25] <jiffe> I've tested gwtpwnam on a machine that is unrelated to the actual user except for the fact that the user is in ldap, getpwnam returns the wrong homedir, finger returns the wrong homedir, and rebooting doesn't solve it
[20:25] <spwelton> Matilda: you can use lshw in the command line, its not very pretty though
[20:25] <ChaosR> Hello, I have a question: On jaunty my OCZ Vertex had a continues write throughput of about 100MB/s. On Karmic I have a write throughput of only 5-10MB/s, why is this, and how can I get it up again?
[20:25] <alnr> grawity: no luck on update, maybe its cuz this vmware appliance points apt to edgy-security main restricted
[20:25] <bercik> Guys, is tere some HP F2400 how to guide? It doesnt work, escpecialy for default
[20:25] <ChaosR> my "normal" disk does 60MB/s just like on jaunty
[20:26] <MaienM> So, I just updated to 9.10 and noticed that the internal system beep has been replaced by a beep sound coming from the boxes. Is there any way to get the old system beep back (the one coming from your pc, not from the connected boxes/headphones)? Yes, the one that everyone seems to hate so much.
[20:26] <b0n1> Hi
[20:26] <b0n1> can someone help me installing latex packages for ubuntu 9.10
[20:26] <b0n1> ?
[20:26] <b0n1> do i need miktex?
[20:26] <grawity> alnr: Edgy? That's from 2006, isn't it?
[20:26] <Tartaros> MaienM: it's called pcspeaker and I'd say it can be enabled in the mixer thingies but dunno exactly
[20:27] <b0n1> what are the commands for the terminal
[20:27] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[20:27] <Tetracomm> Is there a command which will tell me if a printer is connected to the parallel port as well as the model?
[20:27] <Nubosal> b0n1: apt-search cache Latex Packages
[20:27] <Nubosal> Try
[20:27] <webbb82> so no one in here has ever started a app and when u click on the screen the app window will jump to the top of the screen then to the bottem when clicked on again
[20:27] <Pici> MaienM: You'd need to unblacklist the pcspkr module from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[20:27] <Pici> MaienM: Just remove or comment the relevent line.
[20:27] <jox> hi
[20:27] <teasdalec> when i try to update i get a message saying missing final line. very new to ubuntu can anyone help?
[20:27] <spwelton> why did they blacklist pcspkr by default?
[20:28] <MaienM> Pici: found it, done... is that all there is to it?
[20:28] <Venin> Tartaros, I see that other GUI.. stripped one
[20:28] <jox> i have broken dependence with two different reposity ho can fix ?
[20:28] <BasiumDeJudas> ok just uninstalled and reinstalled firefox by using the Synapic ... I downloaded the language I wanted for firefox interface but it didn't not give it to me.
[20:28] <b0n1> apt-search command not found Nubosal
[20:28] <Venin> Tartaros, I want the normal ubuntu gnome :p
[20:28] <Nubosal> UHmm
[20:28] <Nubosal> Wait
[20:28] <darlek_> spwelton, because it beeps during cursor stopping as well as when you log out.
[20:28] <b0n1> you mean apt-get ?
[20:28] <mrdark> b0n1, it's apt-cache search
[20:28] <bercik> Guys, is tere some HP F2400 how to guide? It doesnt work, escpecialy for default
[20:28] <trism> spwelton: I imagine because they replaced it with an even more annoying beep
[20:28] <Pici> MaienM: Thats it.  If you don't want to reboot for it to take effect, just   sudo modprobe pcpspkr  after making the changes.
[20:28] <Nubosal> b0n1: No, was apt-cache search Latex Packages
[20:28] <spwelton> darlek_: cursor stopping, as in when you try to delete characters that aren't there?
[20:29] <b0n1> Nubosal,  what now?
[20:29] <b0n1> got a lot of output
[20:29] <Katatonic> What is the best way to setup file sharing for /var/www on a server that is physically next to me (behind the same router).  I want to also share /home/username
[20:29] <Nubosal> You will get a list
[20:29] <darlek_> spwelton, no, end of line or buffer overrun conditions
[20:29] <Nubosal> And seach on it
[20:29] <Jordan_U> Pici: Is there a way to make gnome-terminal use pspkr again?
[20:29] <Tartaros> Venin: dunno exactly what you mean but I'd try enabling the "ubuntu desktop" package group. I do have it on my netbook and I believe I do see standard gnome :) then again my ubuntu was born as easypeasy so who knows :)
[20:29] <alnr> having a problem with apt-get, cant seem to find openssh-server even after updating. any thoughts
[20:29] <bastidrazor> Matilda: df -h for harddrive space .. free -m for RAM in MB and what was the third thing?
[20:29] <ahnkle> i upgraded and now cant login - i get the login splash screen, then busy icon forever
[20:30] <b0n1> is it bad installing everything?
[20:30] <darlek_> b0n1, apt-cache search nameofthing
[20:30] <Nubosal> Maybe
[20:30] <b0n1> how can i install all
[20:30] <spwelton> darlek_: ah, I see. I liked the system beep when I ran out of characters to delete, etc...
[20:30] <Pici> Jordan_U: I think just enabling the pcspkr module and changing the system bell option in your gnome-terminal preferences should do it.
[20:30] <Nubosal> THen you make apt-get install thepackagename
[20:30] <bercik> Guys, is tere some HP F2400 how to guide? It doesnt work, escpecialy for default
[20:30] <Katatonic> it seems a simple task but....maybe not
[20:30] <teasdalec> i get an error message saying missing final line when try update or install anything?
[20:30] <lachouffe> how can i escape the space in a var that will be use to create dir for exemple ?
[20:30] <penthief> Hi, I've upgraded to 9.10, and when I play a video with vlc it logs me out!
[20:30] <lachouffe> eg : FOO="foo bar"; mkdir $FOO
[20:31] <HuXu> foo barz!
[20:31] <bastidrazor> lachouffe: mkdir foo\ bar/
[20:31] <lachouffe> will create foo and bar
[20:31] <Venin> in ubuntu netbook remix, how do I see normal gnome?
[20:31] <ChaosR> does anybody know about my SSD problem?
[20:31] <Milligan> Venin smells
[20:31] <lachouffe> bastidrazor, yes but i want to use a variable
[20:31] <HuXu> Venin:  you have to install Ubuntu Desktop to get it to be normal
[20:31] <Venin> *sniff* *sniff*
[20:31] <lachouffe> bastidrazor, for exemple $1 form a user input
[20:31] <Milligan> Venin, gau sve?, right ?
[20:32]  * Venin nods
[20:32] <Jordan_U> Pici: I have pcspkr, and "beep" uses it just fine but gnome-terminal is still just playing a sound through pulse
[20:32] <Milligan> ser du på united ?
[20:32] <trism> lachouffe: you can also do mkdir "${FOO}"
[20:32] <Venin> Milligan, yeh
[20:32] <trism> lachouffe: that will only create one directory
[20:32] <Milligan> raua?
[20:32] <Dayofswords> need some help, when i'm in the update manager and open up the settings. i go the "ubuntu software" tab and click best server. it opens the window to ping and tests server, but it frezes on the first one
[20:32] <Venin> Milligan, forsvaret, ja.
[20:32] <teasdalec> please can someone help. error message says 'missing final line' when try install updates
[20:32] <darlek_> how to test if a headset / mic combo works ?  I ran sound recorder but no level changes
[20:32] <Milligan> d he søge i heile år.
[20:33] <lachouffe> trism: it does not work for me
[20:33] <lachouffe> trism, it create 2 dir
[20:33] <Matilda> Isni it any easier way to check your left memory on your computer than : lshw ??? like just push buttom somewhere?? I got "1002MiB" how much MB is that??
[20:33] <lachouffe> trism, I use bash
[20:33] <MaienM> Pici: I commented out the line ('blacklist pcspkr' right?) and did 'sudo modprobe pcspkr', still get the new beep though :( pcspkr shows up in lsmod, but it says its used 0 times. any more ideas/suggestions?
[20:33] <Venin> Milligan, mangle x-factor ;)
[20:33] <fliebelt> hey there, I have a problem with codecs on Karmic, Gstreamer doenst put through enough FPS or something like that, is there a way to change this?
[20:33] <jrib> Matilda: what do you mean by "left memory"?
[20:33] <joeyeye> lachouffe, mkdir "foo bar"
[20:34] <Milligan> Venin, he du sett videoen frå den eine rugbykampen åkkas!? :D
[20:34] <trism> lachouffe: with it quoted? FOO="foo bar"; mkdir $FOO will make 2 for me, FOO="foo bar"; mkdir "${FOO}" makes one, because it is quoted
[20:34] <fliebelt> on "fast" moving actions (not really fast) it shows some kind of strips around the moving item
[20:34] <Venin> Milligan, hehe.. nei
[20:34] <trism> lachouffe: as do I
[20:34] <Venin> Milligan, men e på nett via iphone atm :|
[20:34] <Milligan> Venin, ah - gay
[20:34] <penthief> Hi, I've upgraded to 9.10, and and sound no longer works, and xchat takes 10 seconds to respond to a key press.
[20:34] <jrib> !no | Milligan, Venin
[20:34] <Matilda> oh... just saving space on harddrive I'm a windows user and this system is so comfused..
[20:34] <Venin> heh
[20:35] <jrib> Matilda: you haven't answered my question...
[20:35] <jrib> !who | Matilda
[20:35] <Venin> Milligan, neighbour's wlan went down a couple days ago
[20:35] <love_> hi everyone! I installed fglrx packages in xubuntu 9.10, but nothings showing up in jockey.. how do I change from the opensource to proprietary ATI driver?
[20:35] <meua> how can i know what is using a port of mine (port 50001)
[20:35] <guntbert> !ot | Venin
[20:35] <lachouffe> trism, ok if i use mkdir "${FOO}" or mkdir "$FOO"
[20:35] <meua> i've nmap, tcpdump & netstat but no awnser
[20:35] <jrib> Matilda: you want to know how much free space is left on your hard drive?
[20:35] <joeyeye> meua, netstat | grep 5001
[20:35] <Milligan> Venin, so now you drove to town and use your iphone to pirate other connections? :P
[20:35] <joeyeye> meua, netstat | grep 50001
[20:35] <lachouffe> but i would like not to put " " aroud all variable
[20:35] <Venin> guntbert, it is kinda OnT. thats why I need my ubuntu ;)
[20:36] <norbi> can somebody tell me why my computer doesn`t restart, i`m getting a black screen then its standing
[20:36] <penthief> and when changing windows it takes 30 seconds for a page refresheven though I'm using less than half my ram
[20:36] <guntbert> Venin: please state your question as detailed and clearly as possible
[20:36] <Dayofswords> need some help, when i'm in the update manager and open up the settings. i go the "ubuntu software" tab and click best server. it opens the window to ping and tests server, but it frezes on the first one
[20:36] <teasdalec> please please please someone help- I get an error message saying 'missing final line' when I try to install auto updates or install new software. what do i have to do???????
[20:36] <ctmjr> jrib, i think he is in another world
[20:36] <Nubosal> Try another one, near your location, Dayofswords
[20:37] <Venin> Milligan, using super3g on iphone, hooked up to pc :p
[20:37] <meua> joeyeye "tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:50001         0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN "
[20:37] <Venin> guntbert, fair enough
[20:37] <HuXu> im using super9g on my iphone
[20:37] <penthief> this release is terrible
[20:37] <love_> anyone know why fglrx wont show up in jockey for activation?
[20:37] <newser> how can I get the new ubuntu icons and install them?
[20:37] <Tartaros> Dayofswords: just use the "main" one or one that seems to be near you
[20:37] <Dayofswords> Nubosal: i would, but its the point of the best server funcution not working at all
[20:37] <Venin> I just installed Ubuntu Netbook Remix but miss the normal desktop Ubuntu uses. How can I get that desktop back? :)
[20:37] <HuXu> newser: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:37] <Matilda> ubottu: Is this better?? my problem is that ubuntu9.04 doesn't play sound and that i don't find my hard drive space (how much I can save in the computer)
[20:38] <ctmjr> love_, your card is not supported?
[20:38] <Nubosal> Try another one. The USA server worked better than the Mexico one, Dayofswords
[20:38] <lumis> About to pick a netbook; NC10 or N140? anyone got a preference?
[20:38] <HuXu> Venin: reinstall Ubuntu Desktop
[20:38] <joeyeye> meua, lsof | grep 50001
[20:38] <jrib> Matilda: System -> Administration -> System Monitor is one way to view how much space is left on each of your partitions.  Alternatively, open a terminal and type « df -h »
[20:38] <Venin> HuXu, someone said the new interface could be switched off easily
[20:38] <guntbert> lumis: not here please - try #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:39] <fliebelt> I cant select "force package" in synaptic how can i solve this?
[20:39] <iandm> hi@all
[20:39] <newser> HuXu, I already did it, but it didn't change a thing (graphically speaking)
[20:39] <olivetree> hello
[20:39] <love_> anyone know why fglrx wouldn't show up in jockey for activation?
[20:39] <lmentop> Venin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1312335
[20:39] <fescoff> hello
[20:39] <gperalta> Hi, I installed Ubuntu 9.04 using Wubi and today i upgraded to 9.10 in that installation. The problem is that when I try to shut down Ubuntu, it starts closing everything, but at last appears a message saying "Buffer I/O error on device loop0" and it doesn't stop. What can i do?
[20:39] <spwelton> fliebelt: you can't force a version if you don't have the deb cached locally, IIRC
[20:39] <meua> joeyeye "firefox   2965       meua   46u     IPv4      22389      0t0        TCP localhost:50001 (LISTEN)"
[20:39] <Venin> lmentop, ty
[20:39] <Tartaros> 9.10 says it has deprecated "hal" - does it mean I can uninstall hal?
[20:39] <HuXu> Venin: sudo apt-get install desktop-switcher
[20:40] <joeyeye> meua,  so firefox is listening on 50001
[20:40] <gperalta> What can i do?
[20:40] <fliebelt> spwelton, so how can I downgrade my gstreamer to jaunty gstreamer?
[20:40] <olivetree> Hello, i have a question regarding wireless MSchap on ubuntu 9.10
[20:40] <arand> love_: may be ati dropped support for your card.
[20:40] <Nubosal> gperalta: Try not using Wubi. Better make partitions and reinstall all your OS
[20:40] <Kaell> I have a HD that seems to be dying?  Smartctl test shows error at a consistent LBA of first error.  Is there anything I can do to make this usable?  Or is it toast?
[20:40] <Nubosal> I had many problems with wubi
[20:40] <Venin> HuXu, saw that.. but no internet access atm
[20:40] <olivetree> the configuration doesn't seem to get available. the connect button get's disabled
[20:40] <HuXu> Venin: then how are you on IRC?
[20:41] <newser> my computer backlight doesn't turn on after resuming from suspend. I have a eeepc 904ha How can I fix this?
[20:41] <spwelton> fliebelt: not sure you can do that... what version are you currently running?
[20:41] <Venin> HuXu, through my iPhone
[20:41] <olivetree> it's a different network. the one i'm telling is WPA Business
[20:41] <cheater99> hi guys
[20:41] <HuXu> Venin: you should tether it
[20:41] <Venin> HuXu, I am, to another computer
[20:41] <cheater99> i've updated some stuff in the update manager and my laptop's touchpad doesn't work anymore
[20:41] <cheater99> can someone help please?
[20:42] <fliebelt> spwelton, 0.10.9-1 <-- 0.10.16 is the latest stable on the gstreamer website  my version is buggy
[20:42] <BenG92> whats the easiest way to install flash on 9.10
[20:42] <meua> joeyeye okay... it's Zotero plugin how does that, thx very much for your help
[20:42] <cheater99> i'm all freaked out
[20:42] <gperalta> There is nothing i could do without partitioning?
[20:42] <trism> BenG92: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[20:42] <BenG92> ah ok, thanks
[20:42] <spwelton> fliebelt: you might try downloading their package and installing it, if it's a higher version... I've never tried that with gstreamer so of course I can't guarantee it'll work...
[20:43] <fliebelt> spwelton, they dont offer it, they just say: "its in your repo" ^^
[20:43] <olivetree> what about the WPA Wireless network? Does anyone knows and could tell me what is going on the 9.10?
[20:43] <Venin> whats up with the 60 sec timer when rebooting or shutting down ubuntu?
[20:43] <BenG92> how can i install a windows sim to run mIRC?
[20:44] <olivetree> use xchat :)
[20:44] <Milligan> Venin, 'tard protection
[20:44] <spwelton> fliebelt: oh well I don't know where one would get that then... have you tried the Medibuntu repository?
[20:44] <erUSUL> BenG92: use a real irc client like x-chat ;)
[20:44] <oorah> is there somethin like force in gnome for xfce?
[20:44] <BenG92> I am, but i have mIRC scripts already written that i can't convert
[20:44] <fliebelt> spwelton, yes :)
[20:44] <bieb> BenG92: wine
[20:44] <Rascal999> i get an error when attempting to ssh w/o a password to server, i've set up keys and such
[20:44] <erUSUL> BenG92: seriously there is a tad of irc clinets no need to run an emulated one
[20:44] <Rascal999> Error attempting to add filename encryption key to user session keyring; rc = [1] - from /var/log/auth.log on server
[20:44] <spwelton> fliebelt: oh... hmmm... sorry but I'm pretty much stumped then! ;)
[20:44] <{[Aaron]}> Hi i've just restored grub via ubuntu live CD (I currently have ubuntu 9.10 and windows xp installed on seperate partitions) however I am now unable to boot in either. Grub loads but I get some sort of terminal like screen saying "GNU GRUB version  1.97~beta4 [ Minial BASH-like editing is suported. For the... etc etc" then I have sh:grub>_ where I am able to type
[20:44] <{[Aaron]}> can anyone help? :S
[20:45] <Venin> Milligan, :p
[20:45] <alnr> when i apt-get install anything its not found; apt-get update shows lots of ign and 404; (looking at gb.archive.ubuntu.com (as per http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html) i am lost as to whats going on
[20:45] <meua> joeyeye ... damn... lsof is quite something !
[20:45] <fliebelt> spwelton, np, ty ;)
[20:45] <BenG92> bieb, im new, i don't know much and erUSUL i have written scripts for mIRC already
[20:45] <toubab> Anyone able to provide some support for PS3 Media server running on Ubuntu?
[20:45] <joeyeye> meua,  lsod == list open files ...
[20:45] <erUSUL> BenG92: ok; fair enough
[20:45] <joeyeye> meua,  lsof == list open files ...
[20:46] <iandm> After upgrading I have a problem with the usb-modem (Huawei E169). When pluging it in dmesg brings up some error messages which keep aon looping until I take it aout again. :(
[20:46] <jasunto> Any known issues with 9.10 and keyboard/mouse?
[20:46] <Daimonic> Hey, I have a control problem, I use Terminator, but when I switch the differen consoles with mouse, I often highlight lines, which is annoying can I tab or sth.?
[20:46] <Wazzzaaa> toubab: just ask your question, or problem.. Maybe someone answers
[20:46] <meua> joeyeye yep i'm reading the man page, very very good app
[20:46] <{[Aaron]}> Hi i've just restored grub via ubuntu live CD (I currently have ubuntu 9.10 and windows xp installed on seperate partitions) however I am now unable to boot in either. Grub loads but I get some sort of terminal like screen saying "GNU GRUB version  1.97~beta4 [ Minial BASH-like editing is suported. For the... etc etc" then I have sh:grub>_ where I am able to type
[20:46] <BenG92> erUSUL, my friend suggested a windows sim, but i have no idea how to go about that
[20:46] <bieb> BenG92: I wasnt being a smartass.. look up Wine.. it will allow you to install mIRC
[20:46] <toubab> I'm trying to get a mounted drive to show up in the sharable files list in PS3 Media server.
[20:46] <erUSUL> BenG92: ithers already pointed you too wine
[20:46] <erUSUL> !wine > BenG92
[20:46] <BenG92> ok i'll try wine, thanks bieb and erUSUL
[20:46] <toubab> But all it shows is the file trees on my ubuntu install partition
[20:47] <bieb> BenG92: http://www.winehq.org/
[20:47] <Wazzzaaa> you sure it is mounted toubab ?
[20:47] <ctmjr> !grub | {[Aaron]}
[20:47] <Wazzzaaa> ubuntu mounts by default in /media
[20:47] <toubab> ah
[20:47] <toubab> i'll try on sec
[20:47] <Wazzzaaa> maybe it is there ;)
[20:47] <MasterofPuppets> !grub2 | MasterofPuppets
[20:48] <sartan> so since my upgrade to 9.10 from 9.04, it appears that my notification area in my taskbar is 'miscolored' i.e. the pidgin systray icon still has a background color of what the 9.04 theme should be, it's not as "dark" as 9.10.
[20:48] <jasunto> 9.10 no mouse or keyboard??
[20:48] <ctmjr> !grub2 > {[Aaron]}
[20:48] <toubab> Wazzzaaa, sure enough, there it is.  Thanks mate
[20:48] <Wazzzaaa> no problemo
[20:49] <bosse_> hello everyone
[20:49] <bosse_> i have a question
[20:49] <guntbert> !hi | bosse_
[20:49] <jasunto> Boot 9.10 live and cant move mouse or use keyboard to Install
[20:49] <Wazzzaaa> toubab: if you like to be it accesible from another folder, maybe you want to make a "symlink" to /media/DRIVE
[20:49] <{[Aaron]}> thanks guys but, none of this tells me how I can boot from where I am at the moment..
[20:50] <bosse_> how do i install a wireless logitech mouse on Ubuntu 9.10, it worked fine on Ubunti 9.04
[20:50] <Tartaros> {[Aaron]}: how did you restore the grub? and is it grub 1 or 2?
[20:50] <{[Aaron]}> grub 2
[20:51] <MaT-dg> I often hear cracks through my speakers. I think it always happens when a program makes it first sound
[20:51] <Matilda> jrib: yes thanks, but I don't understand them...
[20:51] <jasunto> Is there an easy fix for no touchpad and keyboard funtion in 9.10 live
[20:51] <MasterofPuppets> If I want faster boot times under Grub2, should I edit /etc/default/grub/ and add profile to the Linux_Default line?
[20:51] <jrib> Matilda: don't understand what exactly?
[20:51] <Tamale> Hi all, my main menu is messed up after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10.  "Places" and "System" are both half the height of all other elements and it's very difficult to mouse over them. Help please!
[20:51] <{[Aaron]}> I used the ubuntu live CD, I followed this guide:http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7
[20:51] <cheater99> guys... please help... my trackpad isn't working
[20:52] <jasunto> No trackpad here also
[20:52] <jasunto> Or key oars
[20:52] <jasunto> Keyboard
[20:52] <jasunto> Thus cant install
[20:52] <teasdalec> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.24-22-lpia_2.6.24-22.45netbook9_lpia.deb: files list file for package `libxcb-shape0' is missing final newline WHAT DOES THIS MEAN AND HOW DO I FIX IT? PLease
[20:52] <jox> hiz
[20:52] <Majost> does anyone know a way to tell rsync to rename the dirname on the target? EG: rsync -a /my/source-dir /my/target-dir
[20:53] <jox> start: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused , some help ?
[20:53] <love_> ati drivers aren't showing up in jockey. what can i do?
[20:53] <theFunzo> hi everyone :) could you help me with this? where can i find the save files from mupen64plus which i installed from synaptic?
[20:53] <iceroot> Majost: rsync -a /my/source-dir/ <-------!!! /my/target
[20:53] <Majost> If I use 'rsync -a /my/source-dir/* /my/target-dir' in the script, bash auto completes '*' and does weird stuff
[20:53] <iceroot> Majost: that copies the content from the foolder, not the folder itself
[20:54] <Majost> with a trailing slash?
[20:54] <Yanick_> hi, I just added a menu into "Places" and I mistyped the username, how can I edit/remove that menu?
[20:54] <iceroot> Majost: <---!!! was of course a comment from me
[20:54] <iceroot> Majost: yes
[20:54] <Tartaros> teasdalec: are you sure you couldn't use the generic kernel?
[20:54] <trism> Tamale: did you try adding a new Menu Bar to your panel?
[20:54] <Tamale> trism: Yes
[20:54] <andreo> please help configure SSH, the error is "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"
[20:54] <andreo>  
[20:54] <love_> can someone please help with the fglrx driver? blender's not the same without it..
[20:54] <iandm> Any ideas on that one? After upgrading I have a problem with the usb-modem (Huawei E169). When pluging it in dmesg brings up some error messages which keep aon looping until I take it aout again. http://paste.ubuntu.com/308794/ thx for help!
[20:55] <m4rk> does anyone know how to fix notifications appearing too low on my screen with 9.10?
[20:55] <MasterofPuppets> If I want faster boot times under Grub2, should I edit /etc/default/grub/ and add profile to the Linux_Default line?
[20:55] <teasdalec> tartaros: i don't know what that means new to ubuntu
[20:55] <BenG92> umm... very basic question. I'm trying to load something from the Program Files folder from Vista, except when typing this into a terminal how can i include the space?
[20:55] <raged> Well, the upgrade to 9.10 totally ruined my perfectly fine 9.04 installation.
[20:56] <andreo> !ssh
[20:56] <Majost> iceroot, sweet! thanks
[20:56] <love_> ati drivers aren't showing up in jockey. what can i do?
[20:56] <iceroot> Majost: np
[20:56] <Tartaros> teasdalec: from your question I understood you're trying to install some specialised kernel
[20:56] <MaienM> BenG92: escape the space by prefixing it with a \, so for example you get c:/Program\ Files/
[20:56] <raged> is there anyone that can see my post here please rather than me explaining everything http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8234555#post8234555  ..  9.10 is a piece of CRAP and it's left my system in shambles -- my logitech dinovo edge bluetooth keyboard isnt working anymore so I can't even control my system!!
[20:56] <cov> so is it just me or does karmic completely break certificate-based WPA2 authentication and nobody cares (slash reacts to the bug reports)?
[20:56] <BenG92> thanks MaienM
[20:56] <teasdalec> i'm trying to install auto updates. same message when i try and install skype as well- "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.24-22-lpia_2.6.24-22.45netbook9_lpia.deb: files list file for package `libxcb-shape0' is missing final newline"
[20:56] <lachouffe> why i cannot do FOO=5
[20:56] <mhz> hmm
[20:57] <mhz> f'n themes
[20:57] <raged> why oh why did i upgrade
[20:57] <lachouffe> then (( $FOO++ ))
[20:57] <Tartaros> teasdalec: so I asked if you can't just use the generic .31 kernel that is now in karmic
[20:57] <sartan> Here's a screenshot of the 9.04->9.10 cosmetic issue i spotted with regards to the system tray notification area.  Am I alone with this glitch? http://mistrust.ca/images/shadingproblem.png
[20:57] <addisonj_> is the a channel for the netbook remix?
[20:57] <Bragex9> blackfate, I have now created a live usb disc. I have also started the pc, and have some choices available. Try ubuntu without any changes on the pc,Install ubuntu, check for error or memory test. What do I do?
[20:57] <jontoenn> anyone knows how to install Skype on my Ubuntu 9.04-computer?
[20:57] <lianimator> is anyone else seeing a flash of white before the login screen?? fully updated karmic.
[20:57] <sartan> lianimator: no i am not
[20:57] <Tamale> BenG92: Just put a \ in front of the space
[20:57] <sartan> video driver?
[20:58] <Lord_Stallion> you can try it without installing
[20:58] <BlackFate> Bragex9,  the first one
[20:58] <DjAngo23> How can i format a SD card to Fat32 via Ubuntu ?
[20:58] <love_> has anyone here been able to enable install ati video driver is jockey?
[20:58] <lianimator> sartan: nvidia latest,, only happened after updates
[20:58] <jasunto> No touchpad and keyboard 9.10 live fix?
[20:58] <erUSUL> DjAngo23: with gparted ?
[20:58] <Tartaros> sartan: guess those icons are from nonstandard programs :) like pidgin which is no more the official 1st choice im client
[20:58] <Tamale> Hi all, my main menu is messed up after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10.  "Places" and "System" are both half the height of all other elements and it's very difficult to mouse over them. Help please!
[20:58] <sartan> Tartaros: i knew i'd hear that, but empathy is crap so i'm sticking with pidgin
[20:58] <sartan> with regards to nonstandard programs, this shouldn't be happening regardless of what program it is
[20:59] <Tartaros> sartan: yeah I started using empathy but am having second thoughts too :D
[20:59] <sartan> i gave it a fair try. i just don't like it
[20:59] <Tamale> Hi all, when I mouseover a contact in pidgin, the window pops up but is blank. Is something wrong with pidgin in 9.10?
[20:59] <philh> Tamale, maybe you could try right clicking on them and removing the menu bar before adding it to the panel again
[20:59] <[JackD]> i would imagine pidgin is dropped because of its total lack of security when it comes to account storage
[20:59] <sartan> Tamale: Right on topic. No, i do not have the same problem,
[20:59] <jake_> Since I have upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 I have not been able to get BBC iplayer to work. The video player loads up but I am unable to press the play button to start the video. Is this a known issue? I could not find anything about it online.
[21:00] <Tamale> sartan: Any idea what's wrong then?
[21:00] <sartan> Empathy's message notification process is weak. It doesn't pop up a bar, menu, or open a window, it just flashes a little dot on your background.  talking to multiple people is also difficult.
[21:00] <DjAngo23> erUSUL: Goin to try that out ;)
[21:00] <philh> jake_, is flash installed and working otherwise?
[21:00] <Tamale> philh: I can't remove places and system from main menu, they're built in
[21:00] <jake_> philh, other than that it's fine yes
[21:00] <trism> Tamale: my only other idea would be to try resetting the gnome panels to their default settings
[21:00] <cidco> I am trying to setup a HTPC with a lenovo q700 and ubuntu. I installed lirc to get my remote working, unfortunately its not working, im wondering how i can tell what type of hrdware the receiver is on my pc so i can tell if its even supported by lirc?
[21:00] <alexxio> hi, do you know issues with ubuntu and ati 3450?
[21:00] <trism> !panels | Tamale
[21:00] <Tamale> ubottu: I've tried that
[21:00] <philh> Tamale, are you using a strange gtk theme or anything?
[21:01] <lianimator> this flash of light before the login screen disable the automatic login. and on my laptop lenovo y550 with nvidia gt 240m gives me the fuzzy look that I only get after a suspend.. please help.
[21:01] <Tamale> no, default
[21:01] <Tamale> philh: no, default themes
[21:01] <crohakon> damnit, pandora.com stopped working again. Do I have to redo the f**king flash plug in every time I reboot my computer?!
[21:01] <alexgee> they certainly didn't make pidgin easy to install on Karmic Koala for the novice user...
[21:01] <Bragex9> blackfate, OK. Now ubuntu has started. What do I do next?
[21:01] <sartan> hey trism your blurb fixed /my/ problem too :)
[21:01] <philh> jake_, weird, well, as a workaround you can use get_iplayer, i'd recommend getting it anyway, but i don't have a fix for the issue, sorry
[21:02] <sartan> thanks mate. the weird icon highlighting is gone
[21:02] <Doctor-46> sera
[21:02] <fx4> amd_64 running karmic 9.10 dont have any keyboard function in KDM  help ?
[21:02] <navi_> HELP !! I can't run firefox after addons instalation , how to fix it ? firefox: ../../src/xcb_io.c:542: _XRead: Assertion `dpy->xcb->reply_data != ((void *)0)' failed.
[21:02] <Tamale> All, my mouse pointer registers clicks from the wrong side of the cursor arrow in 9.10. It's never done this before.
[21:02] <trism> alexgee: really? it should just be sudo apt-get install pidgin
[21:02] <jake_> philh, thanks
[21:02] <MaT-dg> alexgee: Applications > Software Center > search for pidgin. Is that hard?
[21:02] <philh> jake_, the web pvr interface is quite neat
[21:03] <skep> navi_: run firefox in safe-mode
[21:03] <skep> disable the addon then
[21:03] <navi_> skep , how ?
[21:03] <defrysk> remove .firefox
[21:03] <antlers> my indicator applet session now shows my empathy status. i want it to show my pidgin status. how to fix?
[21:03] <sartan> switching it back to 'system theme' for background color also buggered it up. heh.
[21:03] <skep> navi_: firefox -safe-mode
[21:03] <skep> from commandline
[21:03] <jasunto> No keyboard or mouse here, get to look at a screen but cant interact how fun
[21:04] <sartan> antlers: i removed empathy completely and ran pidgin again.
[21:04] <Tartaros> antlers: I'd guess it's one of pidgin plugins
[21:04] <Tamale> Does anyone here know when mozilla thunderbird will be added to the software center?
[21:04] <penthief> Hi, I've got a problem with my upgrade -- I'm in a terminal now, and I know that if I CTRL-ALT F7 back, everything will freeze in 1 second. Any suggestions of which logs to check etc?
[21:04] <sartan> there's another pidgin notifier app too that i decided not to install
[21:04]  * defrysk has no use for emparhy
[21:04] <sartan> empathy is awful. did they consult the userbase before they made the big leap?
[21:04] <BlackFate> Bracki, open a terminal
[21:04] <trism> antlers: it should just automatically show the pidgin status (it does for me), although it still shows empathy too...I just added the pidgin tray icon back, much easier
[21:04] <BlackFate> Bragex9, open a terminal
[21:04] <cidco> Anyone using lirc? I am trying to setup a HTPC with a lenovo q700 and ubuntu. I installed lirc to get my remote working, unfortunately its not working, im wondering how i can tell what type of hrdware the receiver is on my pc so i can tell if its even supported by lirc?
[21:04] <navi_> thx
[21:04] <vega-> Tamale: added? thunderbird has been in ubuntu as long as ubuntu has existed ..
[21:04] <Tamale> vega-: Which is why I'm surprised it's not in the software center
[21:05] <vega-> cidco: see lirc pages for supported hw, also /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[21:05] <defrysk> sartan, they do politics, estranging from userbase
[21:05] <philh> sartan, is there a plugin that needs to be enabled for libnotify stuff?
[21:05] <Bragex9> blackfate, terminal opened
[21:05] <Tamale> vega-: I was trying to convince my parents to switch to ubuntu because of the new software center, and it doesn't even have popular open source applications in it
[21:05] <franc> !bot
[21:05] <vega-> Tamale: it is in mine
[21:05] <BlackFate> Bragex9, cd /media/*
[21:05] <Tamale> vega-: the weird thing is there are thunderbird extensions in it
[21:05] <cidco> vega- i know to check their , im just trying to figure out what hardware is in my pc.
[21:05] <franc> !bot | norsk
[21:05] <grymme> hey, after dist-upgrade my movies are blueish. you know how to deal with that?
[21:06] <franc> ?
[21:06] <sartan> philh: sorry man i'm not very smart and clever at user support stuff.  like i said i uninstalled empathy and its notification brother, removed pidgin, reinstalled it, and now the icon is back the way it was before.
[21:06] <trism> philh: libnotify popups on the plugin page
[21:06] <bastidrazor> cidco: sudo lshw | less
[21:06] <vega-> cidco: you mean what receiver?
[21:06] <cidco> yes
[21:06] <franc> norsk irc?
[21:06] <Rascal999> how do you disable home encryption?
[21:06] <sartan> there wasn't any tertiary library to install it just worked.
[21:06] <franc> !bot
[21:06] <franc> !bot | norwegian
[21:06] <franc> ..
[21:06] <vega-> cidco: see bastidrazor's comment
[21:06] <Tartaros> Tamale: it does have thunderbird. Also, the "software center" isn't much more than the synaptic or apt-get, just fancier
[21:06] <paramon> hi)
[21:06] <franc> !bot languages
[21:06] <sartan> philh: http://mistrust.ca/images/shadingproblem.png  minus the shading issues, is this what you want it to look like?
[21:06] <bastidrazor> !no | franc
[21:06] <franc> takk
[21:06] <Bragex9> blackfate, OK. done. A lot of numbers appears...
[21:07] <Tamale> Tartaros: ok, I believe it's there for you, but why isn't it showing up on my new 9.10 install or my parents?
[21:07] <penthief> No-one can help me with my Gnome lock-up?
[21:07] <vega-> cidco: you sure it has some kind of ir receiver?
[21:07] <paramon> русские есть?
[21:07] <Tamale> Tartaros: It's a lot easier to walk people through the software center than explaining apt-get
[21:07] <michael_campbell> Tamale, This a fresh install upgrade?
[21:07] <vega-> !ru | paramon
[21:07] <Tamale> michael_campbell: both
[21:07] <the_freest_man> question: on ubuntu, why can I not connect to any IRC servers beyond freenode with XChat, and no IRC servers with pidgin? Is this an ubuntu problem?
[21:07] <defrysk> the_freest_man, no
[21:07] <JC_Denton_> Hello, I got a video (avi) of which the video plays but not the sound. Any way to find out on ubuntu which codec im missing? I've tried blc
[21:08] <JC_Denton_> *vlc
[21:08] <TheCheeze> the_freest_man, no, i am on 5 different servers right now with x-chat
[21:08] <bastidrazor> !codecs > JC_Denton_
[21:08] <the_freest_man> I keep getting connection refused
[21:08] <Tartaros> Tamale: I just tried it. Wrote "thunder" in the search textbox and the first thing that appeared is "Mozilla Thunderbird Mail/News". Dunno why you wouldn't have it there
[21:08] <defrysk> JC_Denton_, make sure the file is not corrupted
[21:08] <corinth> Changing my status via the indicator applet causes pidgin to disconnect. :-(   Any help?
[21:08] <JC_Denton_> defrysk: plays fine on windows
[21:09] <philh> JC_Denton_, with vlc?
[21:09] <ne0_> hi
[21:09] <trism> corinth: same for me...that seems like a bug
[21:09] <defrysk> JC_Denton_, play it on windows then
[21:09] <grendal_prime> does anyone remember the goofy video about ms developers that had to sit in a chair that would shock them everytime someone submitted feedback from a crashed program?
[21:09] <corinth> Blah, trism
[21:09] <Tamale> Tartaros: Yeah, when I type 'thunder' I get prism and some thunderbird extensions
[21:09] <fx4> tartaros maybe he doesnt have all repos enabled
[21:10] <aris44> hello
[21:10] <Tamale> Hi all, when I mouseover a contact in pidgin, the window pops up but is blank. I've tried re-installing to no avail.  How can I fix this?
[21:10] <pkohr> Does anyone have a definitive answer on if 9.10 works on a Dell mini 10 or not? (to what extent: out of the box) Through experience or otherwise. I have searched many boards and can not come up with a conclusive answer.
[21:10] <cidco> vega- its the lenovo q700 came with a mce remote
[21:10] <JC_Denton_> defrysk: no, don't feel like booting into it. Just confirms its not corrupted you see
[21:10] <praboy> Hi. I am installing Ubuntu 9.10, but it dies on Step 2 (select location)  http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/149/screenshottk.png
[21:10] <grendal_prime> neverimd i found it
[21:10] <cidco> and built in receiver
[21:10] <Tartaros> Tamale: well try to install the extension and see what happens :)
[21:10] <Akuma0n3> Hello, I just changed my graphics card from a nvidia to an ATI and the xserver isn't starting anymore
[21:10] <JC_Denton_> philh, yes, using vlc
[21:10] <bosse_> Is Yellow dog better for PS3 owner than Ubuntu is?
[21:10] <Tamale> Tartaros: Actually, I tried that. It says it depends on thunderbird
[21:10] <aris44> can anybody help me install virtualbox on ubuntu 9.10?
[21:10] <Akuma0n3> is ther any way for me to get ubuntu to redetect the new settings?
[21:10] <Tamale> Tartaros: I know how to make it work with apt-get, but I was wondering if the software center has some known problems
[21:10] <vega-> cidco: ok, so it probably has a receiver also yes
[21:10] <philh> JC_Denton_, look into medibuntu then, i guess there's some restricted stuff missing at the moment
[21:11] <Tamale> Tartaros: I'm really trying to help get more people using ubuntu but this kind of weirdness makes it hard to convince people it's ready for public use
[21:11] <vega-> cidco: did lshw give anything interesting?
[21:11] <teasdalec> when i use update manager and try to install updates i get the following message E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.24-22-lpia_2.6.24-22.45netbook9_lpia.deb: files list file for package `libxcb-shape0' is missing final newline, any clues ??
[21:11] <Tetracomm> Could someone remind me how to improve two or more programs with one command in the terminal?
[21:11] <JC_Denton_> philh - you mean try another distribution?
[21:11] <philh> Tamale, each time i think it's getting close they decide to move everything around and break stuff
[21:11] <Bob_Dole> Audio is having issues on a few applications. None that are in the repos, admittedly. Vendetta Online, which has a native linux client, has garbled audio. It delays in playing, and small bits will replay over and over. It has a lot of distortion(it uses ALSA). Games under WINE(using ALSA) does this too. Youtube videos on firefox are "fine" but has minor distortion, on 9.04 it was present too, turning PCM down fixed it.. I can't fi
[21:11] <Bob_Dole> nd that option in 9.10s GUI.
[21:11] <axisys> i dont hear sound from this url http://www.usenix.org/events/lisa09/stream1/ .. any help would be appreciated
[21:11] <aris44> VirtualBox wont run on 9.10 :@
[21:12] <Tamale> philh: I feel the same way.
[21:12] <ggeorges39> bonsoir
[21:12] <ikus060> Hi All, after installing, deinstalling, testing etc different Nvidia driver, I don't have any driver listed in "Hardware Drivers" tools. Is there a way to easily reset everything related to nvidia driver ??
[21:12] <Tartaros> teasdalec: try uninstalling this .24 image and install the generic .31 image, which you can find using Synaptic
[21:12] <penthief> aris44: I think that's a kernel bug
[21:12] <philh> JC_Denton_, no, it's a repository of media related packages which aren't available from ubuntu for stupid legal reasons
[21:12] <ikus060> I want to install nvidia-glx-185
[21:12] <Tamale> Hi all, my main menu is messed up after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10.  "Places" and "System" are both half the height of all other elements and it's very difficult to mouse over them. Help please!
[21:12] <Guest86020> can anyone help me
[21:12] <JC_Denton_> philh , ah, ok
[21:12] <jake_> JC_Denton_, who knows - what's the issue?
[21:12] <Bob_Dole> Basically 9.10 seems like a really shiny disappointment.
[21:12] <BUGabundo> bRoas
[21:12] <Bragex9> blackfate, I did the cd /media/*  A lot of numbers and letters appear after media/.......
[21:12] <praboy> i-m getting Nov  3 21:12:25 ubuntu kernel: [ 4966.640990] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error - auto reallocate failed
[21:13] <gnomeye> Tamale: You don't have to convince them. For further information see the log of the presentation "Be your neighbor's Ubuntu Guru - FabianRodriguez"  that happened yesterday on UbuntuOpenWeek https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/openweekKarmic/UbuntuGuru
[21:13] <philh> Tamale, everything was going well, even pulse audio was working fine for one release, and then everything seemed to fall apart at 8.10
[21:13] <teasdalec> tartaros: thanks but how do i do that, completely new to ubuntu and a bit thick too!
[21:13] <JC_Denton_> jake, I have video but no sound playing an avi file which I know contains sound
[21:13] <philh> i haven't had any success with pulse since
[21:13] <Guest86020> i just want to know: how can i get input from a terminal (using a shell script)
[21:13] <jrib> Guest86020: try #bash for help scripting in bash
[21:13] <Guest86020> i can't find anything good on google
[21:13] <switchgirl1> how to encrypt a directory?
[21:13] <pkohr> Bob_Dole: So there is significant lack of support for the audio and video hardware componets?
[21:13] <cidco> vega- it didnt
[21:13] <Tamale> gnomeye: I do have to convince them. If I don't, they'll go back to windows and I'll go back to removing viruses every few months :(
[21:13] <Guest86020> thanks
[21:13] <jake_> I know it may be a really obvious place to start but with my 9.10 upgrade, the sound was set to mute by default
[21:13] <ceafu> google is full of good stuff.
[21:13] <penthief> Guest86020: readline
[21:14] <Guest86020> i will go to #bash
[21:14] <iandm> Any ideas on that one? After upgrading I have a problem with the usb-modem (Huawei E169). When pluging it in dmesg brings up some error messages which keep aon looping until I take it aout again. http://paste.ubuntu.com/308794/ thx for help!
[21:14] <jake_> check the volume control on the panel, top right
[21:14] <vega-> cidco: can you put the whole output on pastebin, also lspci ?
[21:14] <cidco> vega- it shows pretty much all the devices i know about, usb and such.
[21:14] <cidco> vega- sure
[21:14] <flarkin> Hi...i am trying to change the permission to my root folder does anyone know how to?
[21:14] <gnomeye> Tamale: So tell them you won't any more removing them viruses, if they keep using windows
[21:14] <Bob_Dole> pkohr, I do have video issues in WINE, turning off some hardware support fixes that... But audio is broken in linux native games using ALSA, and wine games, with WINE set to use ALSA.
[21:14] <jrib> flarkin: erm, why do you want to do that?
[21:14] <penthief> flarkin: man chmod
[21:14] <woddf2> Hello
[21:15] <philh> Bob_Dole, try alsamixer from a terminal
[21:15] <gnomeye> Tamale:  I would read the log of the presentation from yesterday, it helped me too... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/openweekKarmic/UbuntuGuru
[21:15] <MrDusty> Tartaros, Sorry I was AFK.  No I havn't tried disabling acceleration.. will take a look at that now.  I Have two 24" monitors both doing 1680x1050 so that would be (1680 x 2) x 1050.. so sound plausible - however its the same setup i've used since 8.x
[21:15] <Tamale> gnomeye: They'd love to use ubuntu if I didn't have to walk them through the command line all the time
[21:15] <philh> you should be able to reduce the pcm level there if not in the normal gui
[21:15] <m0smith> I am having problems with apt-get:  packages I know exist are not found: subversion for one
[21:15] <woddf2> When I try to mount an NTFS partition, I get this: >>fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy<<
[21:15] <jrib> m0smith: pastebin
[21:15] <sartan> huh
[21:15] <sartan> too spammy in here.
[21:15] <m0smith> pastebin?
[21:15] <sartan> this is about a 9, i need a channel to be at about a 3.
[21:15] <sartan> later guys
[21:15] <ikonia> !info subversion
[21:15] <jrib> !pastebin | m0smith
[21:15] <woddf2> m0smith, http://pastebin.com/
[21:15] <penthief> m0smith: Check your sources.list
[21:16] <Bob_Dole> Well, I see PCM in alsamixer, so I an fix the distortion in working audio.
[21:16] <flarkin> jrib: i'm trying to install a program and it needs to be able to write to my root directory...i know how to change the permission to a single folder but i can't figure out how to do it to my z:drive
[21:16] <Tartaros> MrDusty: well I meant it's automatically disabled due to too big virtual desktop. Might be completely wrong ofc :)
[21:16] <trism> corinth: Do you have your MSN account enabled in empathy too? The problem seems to be that the indicator applet logs you into empathy when you change status (which seems like a bug if you're using pidgin)..I disabled my account in empathy and it works now
[21:16] <Haitham> Hello, I'm trying to install a game (Just to try things out), its called HedgeWars to be specific, anyways, I had a problem with the "Cmake" command, been able to install CMake using sudo command, now it says it requires other than that such as QT and FreePascal, so I try to do Sudo with them, but it keeps giving me Package not Found, what's all this about?
[21:16] <joaopinto> Haitham, hedgewar is available from the repositories
[21:16] <JC_Denton_> trying medibuntu right now, will let you know
[21:16] <jrib> flarkin: you are going to break your system.  Tell us what you actually want to accomplish.  i.e. what are you trying to install?
[21:16] <axisys> !acroread
[21:16] <axisys> !acrobat
[21:17] <philh> Bob_Dole, how about gnome-volume-control from the terminal, is that just the same as the volume control you were talking about earlier?
[21:17] <woddf2> Also, swap does not mount at boot. How do I make it mount at boot?
[21:17] <JC_Denton_> which version of mono is shipped with 9.10?
[21:17] <ikonia> woddf2: swap doesn't mount
[21:17] <axisys> !adobe
[21:17] <jrib> Haitham: hedgewars should be in the repositories.  Use APT, don't compile it
[21:17] <Haitham> Hedge-Wars that is, and I just wanted to see how things work, I mean why it managed to find CMake package and didn't find FreePascal nor QT
[21:17] <Haitham> ?
[21:17] <axisys> !pdf
[21:17] <m0smith> The sources.list exists  and "looks" ok.  I haven't messed with it on a clean isntall
[21:17] <Tartaros> teasdalec: ok how did you get the "linux-image-2.6.24-22-lpia_2.6.24-22.45netbook9_lpia.deb"?
[21:17] <Bob_Dole> philh, yep.
[21:17] <eyore15> my UNR on a Starling Netbook defaulted to 800X600 resolution after upgrading to 9.10.  There's no options to improve that in the "display" function.  I'm a newb, so seeing things like "edit your xlorg file" scare me to death.  Any suggestions for possible resolutions?
[21:17] <pjw> Hi all, Do somebody use qemu/kvm on Ubuntu 9.10? I can't install Windows XP. While formatting occur "Unable to format the partition. The disk may be damaged".
[21:17] <flarkin> jrib: world of warcraft, its in a exe file but i'm using wine
[21:17] <woddf2> ikonia: Conky says there is no swap and it does not use swap unles I run "swapon /dev/mapper/cryptswap1" as root.
[21:17] <Tartaros> because it's certainly not part of standard ubuntu
[21:18] <jrib> m0smith: can you just pastebin the command you ran and the output.  Throw in sources.list too since you've got that handy now
[21:18] <hkais> hello all
[21:18] <jrib> !appdb > flarkin
[21:18] <cidco> vega- here it is http://pastebin.com/m1f3032b5
[21:18] <m0smith> sure
[21:18] <Haitham> mm, damn, I just wanna improve my Linux knowledge..
[21:18] <ikonia> woddf2: ok - so that's not mounting, but that's fine. Put it in your fstab - I suspect it's because of the encyption
[21:18] <pkohr> Bob_Dole: More of an audio issue then. Supposing that you have the mini 10 and not 10v. UNR or basic desktop? Are you running at full resolution and have the Poulsbo drivers installed, or are they no longer nesscary in 9.10?
[21:18] <jrib> flarkin: read the instructions on appdb
[21:18] <philh> Bob_Dole, can you change the device at the top?
[21:18] <jrib> !compile > Haitham
[21:18] <JC_Denton_> !mono
[21:18] <hkais> I am getting the message, that python which comes in with the update-manager cannot be Authenticated?
[21:18] <hkais> can someone help?
[21:18] <jrib> Haitham: read how you would compile it, but then you should still actually install it using APT
[21:18] <philh> Bob_Dole, i presume it'll default to pulse
[21:18] <teasdalec> tartaros: i bought a netbook and switched it on. there was an icon at the top for update manager i clicked on install updates and got that message
[21:19] <Bob_Dole> pkohr, I have a big core 2 desktop, that everything on ubuntu 9.04 worked. 9.10 has lots of issues.
[21:19] <njbair> My EEE PC doesn't have enough disk space to allow me to upgrade to Karmic. Can I mount a flash drive to a specific directory so that it has room to download the packages, or is there another solution to this issue?
[21:19] <JC_Denton_> the file plays fine now
[21:19] <woddf2> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/308826/
[21:19] <uramaget> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - I can't get grub-install command to run, because it tells me that it cannot open '/boot/grub/devices.map' and it says 'unexpected error' How do I solve this?
[21:19] <philh> njbair, i wonder if you could mount it somewhere in /var/
[21:20] <pjw> Does somebody uses Windows XP on Qemu/KVM on Ubuntu 9.10? I have problems with this issue.
[21:20] <philh> njbair, if you get a good answer could you pm me, i'd be interested to know, similar situation here
[21:20] <Haitham> I read install File - and followed it, and i sensed an Improvement by getting CMake package without instructions (:D) but still, the others just phailed.
[21:20] <ikonia> woddf2: you've got swap commented out
[21:20] <njbair> philh: sure
[21:20] <m0smith> http://pastebin.com/m21270a9d
[21:20] <Bob_Dole> philh, the GUI doesn't seem to have the option to change it.
[21:20] <jrib> !who | Haitham
[21:20] <vega-> cidco: what about lsusb ?
[21:20] <hkais> !unauthenticated package
[21:21] <jrib> Haitham: like I said, read ubottu's link about how to compile things to *learn*.  But when you actually want to install it, use APT
[21:21] <hkais> !unauthenticated
[21:21] <hkais> !not authenticated
[21:21] <Bragex9> blackfate, still there?
[21:21] <properz> hi , i changed resulition but my mbar ( the start menu is half)
[21:21] <pkohr> Bob_Dole: I am refering to the mini 10, I assume that your eariler response about the out of the box capabilites was refering to it and not your destop?
[21:21] <philh> Bob_Dole, no drop down box at the top, and no pcm entry in the dialogue that pops up when you press preferences?
[21:21] <Haitham> Aha, thanks alot Jrib. :)
[21:21] <hkais> !authenticated
[21:21] <Haitham> Just book-marked the page.
[21:21] <m0smith> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m21270a9d
[21:22] <woddf2> ikonia: Hopefully that worked, thanks
[21:22] <Bob_Dole> pkohr, I havn't mentioned my Mini 10v. It's still running 9.04 quite happily and absolutely problem free.(excluding a VNC client segfaulting)
[21:22] <l3dx> anyone know how I can get libgtk1.2 in karmic?
[21:22] <woddf2> Also, when I try to mount an NTFS partition, I get this: >>fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy<<
[21:22] <vega-> njbair: philh: i did that once by symlinking /var/cache/apt (or whatever was the place that apt downloads packages to) to some other dir where i had space
[21:22] <hkais> noone here with 9.10 and a message that some package cannot be authenticated?
[21:22] <Bob_Dole> philh, the GUI seems to have merged everything to be more user friendly by removing options- Options I used quite often.
[21:23] <pkohr> Bob_Dole: I think I thought you where answering my question and you thought I was answering your quetion. :P
[21:23] <pkohr> *Question
[21:23] <l3dx> can I install packages from previous versions of ubuntu?
[21:23] <woddf2> Ohh wait
[21:23] <njbair> vega-: thanks, i'll give that a try
[21:23] <jrib> !info subversion
[21:23] <Bob_Dole> Well, I don't like pulse audio..lets see how 9.10 handles sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio.
[21:23] <hkais> l3dx: typically not. which package do you want to install?
[21:24] <m0smith> !clojure
[21:24] <jrib> m0smith: run « sudo apt-get update » and try again
[21:24] <m0smith> !info clojure
[21:24] <Flarkin> jrib: my problems are not addressed on there...most of that is post installation problems
[21:24] <jrib> Flarkin: you are asking how to change permissions of your filesystem.  But wine installs to your home directory.
[21:25] <l3dx> hkais: libgtk1.2 - I need it in order to install Unreal Tournament GOTY :D
[21:25] <Bob_Dole> 9.04 worked fine after purging pulse audio, 9.10 doesn't seem to like it at all.
[21:25] <hkais> you have 9.10?
[21:25] <l3dx> eys
[21:25] <l3dx> yes
[21:25] <pkohr> Anyone know if 9.10 works on a Dell mini 10 or not and to what extent?
[21:25] <conb123> Did they get rid of xorg.conf in karmic? I need to add a couple of options to it
[21:25] <artis2kewl> I'm a newbie to Ubuntu and am desperate for some help/advice.....please help
[21:25] <vega-> conb123: just create it if it's not there
[21:25] <vega-> conb123: and add the stuff you need
[21:25] <brendan-> artis2kewl: ask your question
[21:25] <Flarkin> jrib: humm i may have misunderstood what wine did....i also am running a virtual xp system so when i started the install and there was a C:/ i assumed it was from that
[21:26] <Bob_Dole> artis2kewl, we can't help if we don't know the problem.. So ask the question, not ask for help.
[21:26] <ncfi1013_> what is another name for aptitude, if there is one, because i have it running and i want to turn it off and i cant find it in system activity.
[21:26] <m0smith> jrib: smae result
[21:26] <conb123> vega-: Ok but it can't just be the stuff i need how do i create one, what's the command?
[21:26] <m0smith> same
[21:26] <brendan-> ncfi1013_: apt-get
[21:26] <acke> hey, anyone knows what to do with the *broken windowsmanager issue* after todays updates?
[21:26] <brendan-> or you can use synaptics
[21:26] <artis2kewl> I just installed ubuntu 9.10
[21:26] <polandchris> I dont like Karmic Koala :( It's much slower than Jaunty imo
[21:26] <ncfi1013_> thanx brendan
[21:26] <hkais> l3dx: what is your error message in UT?
[21:26] <artis2kewl> after booting from Ubuntu CD
[21:26] <vega-> conb123: just use any text editor that you can handle
[21:27] <Nubosal> artis2kewl: Ye, proceed
[21:27] <woddf2> Goodbye
[21:27] <artis2kewl> onto my USB stick
[21:27] <l3dx> hkais: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:27] <conb123> vega-: Yeah i know but the file is not in /etc/X11 like it usually is
[21:27] <artis2kewl> now when booting menu shows WinXP
[21:27] <artis2kewl> but won't boot into it
[21:27] <Nubosal> artis2kewl: Uhmm
[21:27] <vega-> conb123: yes because by default it is not needed anymore, but it will be read if you create it
[21:27] <Nubosal> I think you erased WinXP data and installed Ubuntu over it
[21:27] <jrib> m0smith: pastebin the output of « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install subversion »
[21:27] <artis2kewl> HDD is in raid array strip mode
[21:28] <hkais> make a symlink from libgtk-1.2.so.0 => libgtk-2.0.0.so.0
[21:28] <hkais> this usually is enough
[21:28] <conb123> vega-: Right ok, and i do not need the rest of the stuff that is usually created in an xorg.conf, just the options i need?
[21:28] <m0smith> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m18ad9e9f
[21:28] <m0smith> at the bottom
[21:28] <hkais> l3dx: ^^^
[21:28] <vega-> conb123: imho yes, of course you need to probably create some sections there, depending on what stuff you will be adding
[21:28] <acke> metacity is the standard WM for ubuntu yes?
[21:29] <hkais> my update-manager reports not authenticated packages. Anyone here who has a similar problem?
[21:29] <artis2kewl> Nope WinXP data still there Ubuntu resides only on USB stick
[21:29] <ncfi1013_> what would i look for in system activity to turn it off?
[21:29] <artis2kewl> and can read all data on the HDD array
[21:30] <Nubosal> Try removing the USB stick and trying to boot in Windows
[21:30] <LinuxGuy2009> Would using the Ubuntu LTS release after the first point release, would that be considered to be as stable as the Debian stable counterpart but of course with the newer packages?
[21:30] <artis2kewl> ]nope it says no disk
[21:30] <blizzow> Are lots of people complaining about the audio after an upgrade to Karmic?  My thinkpad audio is now b0rked.  And the audio on my desktop is garbage too (VLC will play audio with lots of skipping, flash vids only play the first couple of seconds of audio).
[21:30] <artis2kewl> tried booting into dell recovery partition same effect
[21:30] <Bragex9> Blackfate, I can perhaps just make a backup of all my files and then reinstall ubuntu from the live ubuntu usb? Or is another way?
[21:30] <l3dx> hkais: will try :D
[21:30] <Nubosal> Then your HDD has a problem
[21:30] <eTiger13_> how do i see which partitions are on my drive and their size and locations from cli?
[21:30] <blizzow> My laptop doesn't have any audio at all after upgrading to karmic.  (Thinkpad X30)
[21:30] <penthief> blizzow: yes no audio here either
[21:31] <hkais> blizzow: can approve your thoughts. sound is crappy in karmic
[21:31] <dusty__> Tartox, Fixed it by using the other driver, sweet :)
[21:31] <rblst> i've upgraded to karmic and my hp laserjet 1018 no longer works; can anyone help me with this?
[21:31] <cidco> vega- did any of those look like it would be an IR receiver? http://pastebin.com/m1f3032b5
[21:31] <MixMix> artis2kewl, try changing boot options from startup to boot from disk
[21:31] <kandinsk1> I am trying to install the latest ubuntu on my wife's new MacBook
[21:31] <artis2kewl> k will be back
[21:31] <Guest90051> how many irc channels are avaliable?
[21:31] <eTiger13_> kandinsk1, why?
[21:31] <jrib> m0smith: what arch are you on?
[21:31] <conb123> Right so i am trying to get half life 2 running in wine it exits at the loading screen though this is my xorg.conf i added a few options from some forum threads http://pastebin.com/m53c65e88
[21:31] <Flarkin> jrib: maybe you can help with my second question....due to some other things i was working on i've created some partitions but now i can't figure out how to remove them and get my space back...any thoughts?
[21:31] <kandinsk1> eTiger13_: so I can do work stuff
[21:32] <dparker> does anyone know of a way to audit installed packages to check whether the package was authenticated when it was installed?
[21:32] <jrib> Flarkin: how did you create them?
[21:32] <eTiger13_> kandinsk1, what cant you do in os x?
[21:32] <Guest90051> i am not sure if this is the best place to ask
[21:32] <m0smith> jrib: Dell D600 laptop x86 Ubuntu 9.10
[21:32] <maestrojed> I am trying to add a cron that executes a php script every 10mins. I added this to /etc/crontab but it is not working. "*/10 * * * * /usr/bin/php5 /home/maestrojed/html/webApp/data/runUpdates.php > /dev/null", any suggestions what I am doing wrong?
[21:32] <kandinsk1> I am deploying on ubuntu64, so I need to build on ubuntu64
[21:32] <jrib> m0smith: what does « uname -a » return?
[21:32] <Tamale> Hi all, my main menu is messed up after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10.  "Places" and "System" are both half the height of all other elements and it's very difficult to mouse over them. Help please!
[21:32] <kandinsk1> build, test, etc
[21:32] <jrib> maestrojed: use crontab -e...
[21:32] <rblst> test
[21:33] <m0smith> jrib: Linux lehi 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[21:33] <Flarkin> jrib: virtualbox.....guess i should take that question over there
[21:33] <krummlauf> sup
[21:33] <jrib> Flarkin: you don't create partitions with virtualbox
[21:33] <l3dx> hkais: do you know if I need the -dev package for 2.0 .so ?
[21:33] <Lunaticuzzz> hi all!
[21:33] <krummlauf> i like ubuntu
[21:34] <l3dx> hkais: I don't have it..but I do have 2.0-x11.so or something
[21:34] <rblst> i've upgraded to karmic and my hp laserjet 1018 no longer works; can anyone help me with this please?
[21:34] <jrib> m0smith: are you able to instal lother stuff?
[21:34] <palomer_> hello, I need to edit my xorg.conf, but 9.10 doesn't have one!
[21:34] <eTiger13_> kandinsk1, so whats the problem?
[21:34] <Nubosal> palomer_: Create
[21:34] <m0smith> yes
[21:34] <eTiger13_> palomer_, what do you need to edit in it?
[21:34] <jrib> m0smith: switch to archive.ubuntu.com and see what happens
[21:34] <hkais> l3dx: no dev is typically only needed fro development
[21:34] <ncfi1013_> blizzow: a friend of mine that is an advanced user suggested to search for "pulse" packages and remove all of them except "libpulse" and "reboot". on my system i personally dont have any problems with audio in vlc amarok or the audio notification for signing in/out
[21:35] <thegreyspot> Hi, I was wondering if there is a option( or application) that will remember ur root password, so I dont have to continually enter it? Just for one session
[21:35] <Shoe> Need serious help here. I've been looking for an answer to this question for months, and am pretty fed up. I want to know some way to put videos onto my iPod (5th gen, 80GB, black). Already tried Koyote (but I cant figure out how to put videos onto my iPod) and I can't figure out how to put video on my iPod via gtkpod either. All the videos I attempt to put onto my iPod are already in the correct format, and I have a couple converters.
[21:35] <m0smith> jrib:  what's the quickest wayt to make theswitch?
[21:35] <jrib> m0smith: use sed on your sources.list and run sudo apt-get update
[21:35] <hkais> my update-manager reports not authenticated packages. Anyone here who has a similar problem?
[21:35] <eTiger13_> shoe then wheres the problem?
[21:35] <Nubosal> thegreyspot: I think when you have to enter your root password you can choose to save it
[21:35] <Lunaticuzzz> anybody talks russian????
[21:36] <kandinsk1> eTiger13_: I don't know anything about macs, but my wife has asked me to use their own boot manager (boot camp, I think it's called)
[21:36] <jrib> !ru | Lunaticuzzz
[21:36] <Nubosal> hkais: If you trust the packages install them anyways
[21:36] <lianimator> why have my startup applications been disappearing??
[21:36] <eTiger13_> kandinsk1, just use a virtual machine
[21:36] <Shoe> I don't know. I can put music on my iPod just fine, but videos don't work. I use RythmBox to put music on it eTiger13_
[21:36] <jrib> kandinsk1: use refit (see the wiki)
[21:36] <Bob_Dole> So, on ubuntu 9.10. I used sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio, and audio works.. but I can't seem to get anything relating to the GUI to control it, and that's no good. I don't want pulse audio, I want to use straight ALSA...but even that still seems to show the audio issues I mentioned earlier.
[21:36] <jrib> !macbook | kandinsk1
[21:36] <thegreyspot> Nubosal Are you sure? I dont see that option. Is it not in 9.10?
[21:36] <Lunaticuzzz> thanks
[21:36] <hkais> Nubosal: they come in with the update of ubuntu. And why are they unauthenticated?
[21:36] <eTiger13_> Shoe, try windows in a virtual machine
[21:36] <Shoe> ?
[21:36] <Slart> Shoe: ipods have, generally speaking, been a bit shaky in linux.. some older models work while some newer models don't.. it might just be that it isn't possible at this time.. you could run virtualbox with windows and itunes
[21:36] <palomer_> eTiger13_, http://pastebin.org/50621 <-- I need to add these lines (basically , set the display modes)
[21:36] <Nubosal> thegreyspot: Wait, I think is not in Ubuntu. Let me see
[21:36] <kandinsk1> eTiger13_: I just realised this is not a #ubuntu question but a #macos question rather
[21:37] <eTiger13_> Shoe, i think you can put the ipod into a usb ddrive mode in itunes
[21:37] <m0smith> jrib:  apt-get update is doing something
[21:37] <kandinsk1> jrib> thanks
[21:37] <Slart> Shoe: you might also want to send an email or two to apple and let them know how you feel about their support for linux =)
[21:37] <jrib> kandinsk1: the ubuntu wiki will have step by step instructions on installing ubuntu on a mac https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro (click from there)G
[21:38] <m0smith> jrib:  that did the trick
[21:38] <kandinsk1> jrib thanks
[21:38] <m0smith> jrib:  any idea why it helped?
[21:38] <eTiger13_> palomer_, there are ways to do this without xorg which hasnt been in ubuntu for awhile
[21:38] <Nubosal> thegreyspot: No, I dont know
[21:38] <jrib> m0smith: probably some issue with the mirror
[21:38] <maestrojed> jrib: isn't that executed with user privileges, I wanted root to be executing this. Maybe I miss understood the difference between crontab -e and editing /etc/crontab.
[21:38] <eTiger13_> kandinsk1, still think your best bet is to use a virtual machine since im guessing your wife still wants os x
[21:38] <snake_> windows freak
[21:39] <m0smith> jrib:  many thanks
[21:39] <palomer_> eTiger13_, how??
[21:39] <yuriiiii> Hello. How do I make a mugshot like a lot of users have on Ubuntu Wiki?
[21:39] <l3dx> hkais: I didn't get it to work, but thanks for your help...will try again later ;)
[21:39] <yuriiiii> Just of face with white background?
[21:39] <Shoe> I have wine, but when I tried to install iTunes, I made the mistake of trying to install it into my hard drive, not the virtual C:/ Drive, and now it's all messed up. I could get iTunes probably if I could get all the files off of my computer, but now whenever I have a itunes installer on my computer, it only allows me to fix or remove it, and both get errors. Anyway to delete all the files? I have no idea where they all are
[21:39] <Bob_Dole> SO then, when 9.04 came out, a lot of people seemed to want an option to downgrade, did that ever come about or am I going to have to put a bit more effort in not using ubuntu 9.10?
[21:39] <hkais> l3dx: what is the error?
[21:39] <l3dx> now it's the same, but for libgdk-1.2
[21:39] <Slart> Bob_Dole: I think downgrading is still unsupported
[21:40] <eTiger13_> Shoe, again i think you have to do it in a virtual machine running windows
[21:40] <yuriiiii> Hello. How do I make a mugshot like a lot of users have on Ubuntu Wiki?
[21:40] <yuriiiii> Just of face with white background?
[21:40] <Shoe> What do you mean?
[21:40] <penthief> Whats a good command line browser - Gnome keeps freezing in 9.10
[21:40] <Slart> penthief: links might works
[21:40] <Bob_Dole> Slart, great...-.-
[21:40] <Slart> *work
[21:40] <Nubosal> Shoe: I tryied to install iTunes with different ways and dont works
[21:40] <eTiger13_> palomer_, try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[21:40] <m0smith> penthief: w3m
[21:40] <penthief> thanks
[21:41] <jlebar> Hi all.  I just upgraded my VM to 9.10, and now I can't mount CDs.  $ sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[21:41] <jlebar> mount: unknown filesystem type 'iso9660'  I've Googled, but I'm not sure how to fix this.
[21:41] <Shoe> eTiger13_, I have no idea what running a virtual machina means or how to do it
[21:41] <properz> how i enable effects ? i get error ( configuare X server)
[21:41] <eTiger13_> shoe install virtual box. install windows in it and then install itunes.
[21:41] <addisonj_> grr, what is the package name of ther terminal services client?
[21:41] <hkais> l3dx: fine go on for every file
[21:41] <Slart> Shoe: a virtual machine is a software program that emulates a computer running some other operating system.. in this case windows
[21:41] <Slart> !vm | Shoe
[21:41] <hkais> create the symlinks
[21:41] <eTiger13_> shoe i just happened to have this open: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/virtualization.html
[21:41] <Shoe> I don't have my Windows XP installation disc anymore...
[21:41] <m0smith> penthief:  I had to uninstall anything related to compiz to keep 9.10 from freezing
[21:42] <Slart> Shoe: you'll end up with a "computer in a window".. ie booting up, logging in and so on.. but in a window inside ubuntu
[21:42] <eTiger13_> shoe you can get it from Microsoft for "browser testing"
[21:42] <m0smith> !Cedega
[21:42] <penthief> m0smith: OK, I'll try that.
[21:42] <hkais> Shoe: please describe me you, which type of user are you?
[21:43] <Shoe> The kind that just wanted something faster than windows.
[21:43] <Shoe> Not a programmer or anything
[21:43] <hkais> Shoe: experienced user?
[21:43] <artis2kewl> back
[21:44] <artis2kewl> on restarting
[21:44] <eTiger13_> Shoe, shoulda went with OS X me thinks
[21:44] <eTiger13_> Shoe, or Windows 7
[21:44] <artis2kewl> tried to boot to either WinXP or Dell recovery partition......says invalid signature
[21:44] <shay27> Hello , i installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop and when i log in i get msg from Palimpset Disk Utility : SMART status : DISK HAS MANY BAD SECTORS , 1. how can i check how many bad sectors in the disk ? 2. can the bad sectors can be fixed ? 3. can i mark the bad sectors to be unused at all ?
[21:44] <Shoe> hkais, not exactly
[21:45] <Slart> shay27: click on the little task tray icon with the warning
[21:45] <Slart> shay27: or open the "disk" utility in system, administration
[21:45] <Nubosal> shay27: Fix them
[21:45] <Shoe> I searched Virtual Box in Package Manager and got a metric ton of results
[21:45] <Nubosal> Shoe: Wait
[21:45] <sabat> what is the syntax for mounting a samba share?
[21:45] <sabat> using mount
[21:45] <Slart> shay27: oh.. and you might want to backup anything important as soon as possible
[21:46] <Nubosal> Shoe: Virtual Box OSE
[21:46] <properz> how i configuare my X Server ? ( i want get my graphic card work)
[21:46] <hkais> my update-manager reports not authenticated packages. Anyone here who has a similar problem? How to fix it?
[21:46] <thegreyspot> Sorry I got disconnected. i was asking about audo remembering root password
[21:46] <erUSUL> shay27: badblocks and the -ck options for e2fsck can be used in linux/ext[3,4]
[21:46] <dbdii407> Hopefully one of you guys can help me
[21:46] <Nubosal> thegreyspot: I think in Ubuntu is not possible
[21:46] <Nubosal> dbdii407: Speak
[21:46] <Shoe> i have virtualbox-ose Nubosal
[21:46] <evilgeniuself> I just upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10, and I am experiencing a lot of bugs, such as programs closing while still keeping the image displayed, and firefox no longer works even in failsafe mode (where none of the other problems are occuring). Could someone please help me?
[21:46] <Nubosal> Thats for Virtual Boxing Windows
[21:46] <dbdii407> I'm using xUbuntu and having a serious mouse problem. I can only click on the current active window NOTHING else. I tried asking in #xubuntu but it's dead
[21:46] <cheater99> guys
[21:47] <thegreyspot> Nubosal There he IS! Really thats depressing. I though there use to be "KeyChain" or something on the older ubunt is that not true?
[21:47] <cheater99> is there some way to emulate the mouse using, say, the numpad?
[21:47] <Shoe> Oh, it's in my Applications. What do I do now?
[21:47] <hkais> evilgeniuself: switch the distibution ;-)
[21:47] <shay27> erUSUL: do u know where i can find some documentation regarding bad sectors / e2fsck ?
[21:47] <jlebar> I'm getting an error now that I upgraded to 9.10 when I try to mount a CD in my VM.  "unknown filesystem type 'iso9660'"  Anyone know how to fix this?
[21:47] <Slart> thegreyspot: sudo doesn't use the root password in ubuntu.. it uses the user password.. and yes, you can set the timeout value to something large.. there might even be a "never timeout" option somewhere
[21:47] <gbear14275> ran into a very odd issue on this computer a few minutes ago.  My gf's login freezes after she enters her details.  Initially I tried booting into the recovery mode of ubuntu and as I would scroll through the options the screen would corrupt and I got a message mentioning something about "below noise (level or floor)"  [sorry i didn't write it down].  Oddly enough I am logged into my account on this same machine and don't appear to
[21:47] <pip010_foo> hello world!
[21:47] <hkais> evilgeniuself: I have similar problems. I was to fast in switching...
[21:47] <pip010_foo> :)
[21:47] <palomer_> how do I restart X in 9.10?
[21:47] <erUSUL> shay27: the man pages ? man badblocks and man e2fsck
[21:47] <Slart> !dontzap | palomer_
[21:47] <Bragex9> I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 but something went wrong, and ubuntu will not start. I have made a live ubuntu USB disc. What will happen if I reinstall 9.10. Will I lose all my files that I had under 9.04?
[21:47] <lmentop> cheater99: use terminal
[21:48] <cheater99> uh
[21:48] <cheater99> no.
[21:48] <evilgeniuself> how do I switch back distributions?
[21:48] <artis2kewl> can I boot into windows XP from ubuntu 9.10 ? how?
[21:48] <erUSUL> !downgrade
[21:48] <Eric-Storm> Ubuntu starts are runs fine. AFter about 5-20 minutes my mouse freezes. It's a USB mouse. The light of the mouse is still on however it's no longer responding. I've tried Ubuntu 32bit, 64bit and linux Mint... same problem for each... any suggestions on a fix?
[21:48] <dbdii407> Anyone?
[21:48] <hkais> evilgeniuself: it was a bad joke of mine. The only way back is to restore from backup
[21:48] <evilgeniuself> but Ubuntu 9.10 is not working either...
[21:48] <palomer_> Slart, any other way?
[21:48] <evilgeniuself> oh...
[21:48] <dbdii407> Eric-Storm, Same with mine
[21:49] <dbdii407> But on xUbuntu
[21:49] <penthief> Eric-Storm: apt-get remove compiz*
[21:49] <thegreyspot> Slart Im sorry can you clearify abit?
[21:49] <Slart> palomer_: open a terminal and run "sudo service gdm restart"  .. I think it will get you back at a login prompt
[21:49] <m0smith> Eric: I had to remove anything related to compiz
[21:49] <pip010_foo> why after i upgraded to latest ubuntu distr?
[21:49] <dbdii407> Except mine *kinda* freezes.
[21:49] <dbdii407> I'm using xUbuntu and having a serious mouse problem. I can only click on the current active window NOTHING else. I tried asking in #xubuntu but it's dead <--
[21:49] <Slart> thegreyspot: which part?
[21:49] <evilgeniuself> Is there any way I can at least get firefox to work again on failsafe GNOME?
[21:49] <artis2kewl> Help please !!!!! CAN I boot into winxp on hdd from UBUNTU 9.10
[21:49] <hkais> Eric-Strom: try to disable all visual effects. compiz is a crap
[21:50] <Slart> artis2kewl: yes
[21:50] <cheater99> jesus why is ubuntu so broken
[21:50] <cheater99> i can't get it to work in any way what so ever and all i did was update it
[21:50] <thegreyspot> Slart what do you mean by time out, and where would you set that? Im also not talkabout with in terminal, i mean when installing programs...
[21:50] <Slart> cheater99: I can think of many reasons.. but I don't think jesus can be blamed for any of them
[21:50] <hkais> my update-manager reports not authenticated packages. Anyone here who has a similar problem? How to fix it?
[21:51] <gbear14275> is there anything I can do to "clean up" her account?
[21:51] <cheater99> now i won't be able to work tomorrow because my laptop is broken, i should've stuck windows on it
[21:51] <gbear14275> I don't understand how one user account is fine and another hangs after inputting the password
[21:51] <cheater99> that's just amazingly disappointing.
[21:51] <shay27> erUSUL: should i use the e2fsck command from live-cd ?
[21:51] <Eric-Storm> I have disabled all visual effects.
[21:51] <Eric-Storm> It doesn't do a thing.
[21:51] <vimpulse> cheater99:  Windows breaks sometimes too.
[21:51] <Eric-Storm> Placing "apt-get remove compiz*" in terminal should clear me up?
[21:51] <cheater99> yes, but not when i try to update it
[21:51] <palomer> I'm stuck in 800x600 land, can anyone help?
[21:52] <vimpulse> cheater99:  never?
[21:52] <erUSUL> shay27: is ubuntu already installed ? the n you should yes
[21:52] <penthief> hkais: you need to accept a key, I forget how, apt-key or something
[21:52] <cheater99> not for me in the last 8 years.
[21:52] <anon1_> hello
[21:52] <gbear14275> cheater99: you're having mouse problems?
[21:52] <properz> how i configuare my X Server ? ( i want get my graphic card work) i have nvidia 9500gt
[21:52] <Slart> thegreyspot: hmm.. ok.. first.. only use sudo for terminal apps.. use gksudo for gui stuff... second.. there is a setting somewhere that defines how long it takes before sudo/gksudo wants you to enter the password again
[21:52] <cheater99> i'm having many problems with this thing
[21:52] <hkais> penthief:  it is a default package of the ubuntu team!
[21:52] <evilgeniuself> Thank you guys for your help!
[21:52] <vimpulse> anon1_:  hello.  Would you please change your nick?
[21:52] <gbear14275> cheater99: what are you running it on?
[21:52] <cheater99> the biggest problem is that my trackpad just doesn't work, at all, what ever i do. it did before i updated ubuntu. now it doesn't.
[21:52] <anon1_> i've got one little gestion. i need the newest version of busybox on my system. is there any chance to get it via apt?
[21:52] <Sir_Konrad> hey, how do I install a package in 9.10? I don't see a Install button!
[21:53] <shay27> erUSUL: ok thanks for your help & time , one last thing i cant find what the -k stand for in the man command for e2fsck ?
[21:53] <cheater99> this is a samsung x20 with a synaptics trackpad.
[21:53] <Slart> thegreyspot: you can even set it to never ask for your user password if you want that.. that's not very safe though
[21:53] <thegreyspot> Slart ok i will look for something for gksudo
[21:53] <vimpulse> anon1_:  Tab completion makes it hard to type.  May I suggest onon1.
[21:53] <igama> Sir_Konrad, is it a .deb? did you look for it in Synaptic ?
[21:53] <erUSUL> shay27: it is there  -k     When combined with the -c option, any existing bad blocks in the bad blocks list are preserved, and any new bad blocks found by running badblocks(8) will be added to the existing bad blocks list.
[21:53] <b0nn> hmm, Open Office keeps crashing on a document, and I don't know why, any idea where to start?
[21:53] <l3dx> hkais: I did now, but just gave me some gtk errors
[21:53] <vimpulse> onon1:  also, why do you need the newest busybox?
[21:53] <Sir_Konrad> igama: I'm using the Ubuntu Software Center on the Ubuntu menu.
[21:54] <l3dx> hkais: undefined symbol: GTK_TYPE_SPIN_BUTTON_UPDATE_POLICY
[21:54] <shay27> thanks
[21:54] <Bragex9> I have to count slowly to 10, or else I will throw this dang computer into the wall...
[21:54] <mistahjc> hey i need help
[21:54] <properz> how i configuare my X Server ? ( i want get my graphic card work) i have nvidia 9500gt
[21:54] <l3dx> hkais: but it doesn't matter right now...I can try installing it using wine later
[21:54] <Decessus> Sir_Konrad, are you on a router?
[21:54] <lmentop> cheater99: is xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed, are you loading the current kernel and not the one from 9.04?
[21:54] <en1gma> is there an windows ubuntu installer....so i can install to a seperate hard drive while im in windows on this hard drive?
[21:54] <hudnix> I am trying to figure out why a custom launcher on the gnome panel doesn't seem to do anything. Is there a log file for that I can look at?
[21:54] <Sir_Konrad> Decessus: yeah. I see a huge software list but when I click them I don't see an Install button!
[21:54] <vimpulse> onon1:  sorry, I can't help you anymore, you type slow and I have to replace a HDD now :)
[21:54] <vimpulse> onon1:  good luck.
[21:55] <jrib> hudnix: maybe ~/.xsession-errors
[21:55] <Decessus> Sir_Konrad, what router?
[21:55] <onon1> because i want to decrypt my hard drives over ssh. i set up the busybox with a dropbear script to do that. but i get an error of missing modprobe when i unlock my disks
[21:55] <Slart> hudnix: I don't think there is.. see if you can run the command in a terminal.. you can tell us the command too.. we might be able to spot strange things
[21:55] <thiebaude> Sir_Konrad, after you select the package you want to install there is an arrow to the left of it
[21:55] <gbear14275> cheater99: I'd try a usb mouse or ps2 mouse to see if that fizes it
[21:55] <onon1> and i want a busybox with modprobe
[21:55] <cheater99> gbear14275, it does, but i don't own one.
[21:55] <Sir_Konrad> let me try thiebaude
[21:55] <Shoe> Nubosal,
[21:55] <cheater99> so, that's not a solution.
[21:55] <Nubosal> Shoe,
[21:55] <Shoe> I have virtual box
[21:55] <gbear14275> anyone able to help with what I can best liken to a corrupted user account
[21:55] <Shoe> now what?
[21:56] <Nubosal> Let me start it
[21:56] <Bragex9> I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 but something went wrong, and ubuntu will not start. I have made a live ubuntu USB disc. What will happen if I reinstall 9.10? Will I lose all my files that I had under 9.04?
[21:56] <gbear14275> cheater99: ask a neighbor... they are like the "cup o sugar" of the 21st century
[21:56] <salvador> someone also?Err http://es.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates/main ubuntuone-client-gnome 1.0.2-0ubuntu2
[21:56] <salvador>   404  Not Found [IP: 150.214.5.135 80]
[21:56] <cheater99> lmentop, the kernel that is displayed in grub is from 9.04, there is none from 9.10. that package is installed and the latest version.
[21:56] <properz> how i configuare my X Server ? ( i want get my graphic card work) i have nvidia 9500gt
[21:56] <thiebaude>   Sir_Konrad ok, when you click on the arrow it brings you options
[21:56] <hunney_buns> hi dudes! i have a weird 9.10 error, propably im just stupid or something ;) , installed 9.10 on a different partition on my 9.04 box, now in 9.10 i can not access my vista machine over the network, i have enabled it in ubuntu and so
[21:56] <kristian1> torchlight, by the makers of diablo 2. make yourself heard: http://forums.runicgames.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=901
[21:56] <fx|mjuh|243> irc.quakenet.eu.org
[21:56] <thegreyspot> Does anybody have the issue where they open terminal and it does let you type in to untill you click on the window?
[21:56] <fx|mjuh|243> ups
[21:56] <cheater99> gbear14275, there are no neighbors. i am in a hotel. in a foreign country. in the middle of nowhere
[21:56] <Decessus> thiebaude, supposed to be anyway, mine was working like this the first time, didn't show install just told me 'not available in current list' to everything and my net would only work for certain apps, and it was my router that worked fine in jaunty
[21:56] <hudnix> Slart: the command is "emacsclient -c -n" (using the emacs 23 package). It runs fine from the terminal and from Alt-F2, and used to work form the launcher under Jaunty. Stopped after the upgrade.
[21:57] <thegreyspot> Sorry. "
[21:57] <thegreyspot> Does anybody have the issue where they open terminal and it doesnt let you type in to untill you click on the window?
[21:57] <gbear14275> cheater99: lol even better... take it from the business office ;)
[21:57] <Sir_Konrad> thiebaude: no, it just brings me to a page with an image.
[21:57] <cheater99> i'm not in a mood for jokes :-\
[21:57] <thiebaude> Sir_Konrad, try this example
[21:57] <Slart> hudnix: is that terminal emacs? or some gnome/x version?
[21:57] <lmentop> cheater99: check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1280739 it seems that running an/the old kernel can cause the trackpad to not work...
[21:57] <gbear14275> cheater99: sorry man... borrow it for a while then?  what about a reinstall with a more stable version?
[21:57] <hudnix> Slart: It's gtk-emacs
[21:57] <brendan-> anyone able to recommend a visio substitute for *nix?
[21:58] <Shoe> thegreyspot, thats not an issue. That just means it wasn't your active window at the time
[21:58] <Nubosal> Shoe: You start VB
[21:58] <thiebaude> Sir_Konrad, Other-Adobe flashplugin the arrow the the left-
[21:58] <cheater99> gbear14275, i can't borrow anything here, that is not a solution. what sort of 'reinstall' do you suggest?
[21:58] <gbear14275> anyone able to point me at a fix for a user account freezing after the login information is entered?  It's boggling the mind
[21:58] <hkais> my update-manager reports not authenticated packages. Anyone here who has a similar problem? How to fix it?
[21:58] <hkais> my update-manager reports not authenticated packages. Anyone here who has a similar problem? How to fix it?
[21:58] <Slart> hudnix: hmm... don't really know why it wouldn't work..you're on karmic?
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> brendan-: dia   maybe
[21:58] <properz> how i configuare my X Server ? ( i want get my graphic card work) i have nvidia 9500gt
[21:58] <cheater99> lmentop, i have not installed a 'new' kernel so how is 9.04 an 'old' kernel?
[21:58] <Nubosal> Shoe: Then click on new, is a button. Mine appears blue
[21:58] <Shoe> Thats like saying "I'm typing in notepad but it's not google searching for me! thegreyspot
[21:58] <cheater99> lmentop, that makes no sense.
[21:58] <thegreyspot> Shoe Well i can open any other program and start to type. Like if i open chrome i can immediately type www.google.com. But if i open terminal i have to click on it first. Does that make sense?
[21:58] <lmentop> cheater99: aren't you using 9.10?
[21:59] <gbear14275> I'd go with 8.10 as its a stable version...  I don't think you are in the mood for 9.10
[21:59] <penthief> I'm liking the person who suggested removing compiz. Someone should make the topic sudo apt-get remove compiz. All my problems are now possibly fixed. At least I learnt to use IRC from the command line.
[21:59] <shomon> hello, can I please have some help configuring a webcam on ubuntu?
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> properz: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185
[21:59] <cheater99> no, i've installed 9.04
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> properz: then reboot
[21:59] <Shoe> it means your lazy thegreyspot
[21:59] <cheater99> months ago
[21:59] <Pygmalion> So are there plans to get Chromium in the Ubuntu repos? And as a 64-bit user would it make sense to just build it myself until then?
[21:59] <cheater99> and since then used the update manager to update some packages
[21:59] <cheater99> that's all!
[21:59] <hudnix> Slart: yes, karmic. I see a flash when I click it like it tried to start a window that immediately closed.
[21:59] <thegreyspot> Shoe thats ur excuse?
[21:59] <Shoe> Nubosal, it's still opening
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> properz: also run: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185-modaliases    too
[21:59] <Slart> hudnix: where did you get emacs 23? I only see emacs 22
[21:59] <Nubosal> Shoe: When opens ping me
[21:59] <Shoe> I dont need an excuse. Mine works fine
[21:59] <Nubosal> When you open it and you are ready
[21:59] <shomon> I have found a generic webcam guide here http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Webcam-HOWTO/#HARDWARE but I wonder if there is something specific to ubuntu?
[21:59] <Nubosal> Im waiting
[22:00] <Shoe> Nubosal, ready
[22:00] <cheater99> lmentop: at some point when 9.10 came out i got a lot of package updates in the update manager, so i updated everything, and when i rebooted the trackpad wasn't working anymore!
[22:00] <Sir_Konrad> thiebaude: I clicked the arrow on the left.
[22:00] <properz> ctionParsnip : run 2 commands ?
[22:00] <damo> got a question plz
[22:00] <cheater99> that was today!
[22:00] <lmentop> cheater99: ahh, i though you meant you updated from .04 to .10, do you have a backup of your xorg settings or can you copy someone elses?
[22:00] <Slart> damo: just ask it
[22:00] <thegreyspot> Shoe thats all you had to say, So when you open it you can type right away?
[22:00] <Nubosal> Then, look up at the left, a button that says "New"
[22:00] <thiebaude> Sir_Konrad, and it brought you the install option?
[22:00] <damo> how do i see where my firewall is
[22:00] <Shoe> I think so, if memory serves me right
[22:00] <Sir_Konrad> nope thiebaude.
[22:00] <cheater99> lmentop, no backup. i tried copying someone else's and it still doesn't work.
[22:00] <Shoe> Nubosal, done
[22:00] <hudnix> Slart: It's there in synaptic for me.
[22:00] <Slart> damo: uhmm.. where? what do you want to know?
[22:00] <Xaddion> Underscores are for chumps!
[22:00] <Sir_Konrad> Just brought me a page on whether it was free and a screenshot.
[22:01] <Nubosal> Read that and click next
[22:01] <Sir_Konrad> thi
[22:01] <lmentop> cheater99: sorry dude, i'm stumped.
[22:01] <Sir_Konrad> thiebaude: ^
[22:01] <thiebaude> ok
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> properz: you can run it as one: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185 nvidia-glx-185-modaliases
[22:01] <damo> has ubuntu got built in firewall
[22:01] <Slart> damo: yes
[22:01] <Shoe> thegreyspot, do yoiu click on anything after the terminal starts to open?
[22:01] <Slart> !ufw | damo
[22:01] <jox> hi how can i see the repo key added ? i not mean /etc/apt/sources.list but the key that add manually
[22:01] <damo> how do i access it
[22:01] <Shoe> Nubosal, done
[22:01] <damo> o ok thanks
[22:01] <Nubosal> Put a name, and select OS
[22:01] <thiebaude> Sir_Konrad, maximize the ubuntu software center window
[22:01] <thegreyspot> Shoe nope
[22:01] <hunney_buns> installed 9.10 on a different partition then my 9.04, in 9.04 i can access all my shared folders on my vista box, in 9.10 i can not. i did share a folder to get it installed, i do see the windows admin shares, i see an very old share, its like 9.10 can not identify my username with vista. any ideas on what im missing?
[22:01] <damo> kk thanks cya
[22:02] <Shoe> Nubosal, any wondows operating system will do?
[22:02] <nztal> is it difficult to use a newer model ipod nano with karmic ?
[22:02] <Sir_Konrad> it is thiebaude
[22:02] <kristian1> torchlight is a great new game, by the makers of diablo 2. if you want a linux version make yourself heard here: http://forums.runicgames.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=901
[22:02] <Nubosal> I'd preffer XP
[22:02] <cheater99> it's ok lmentop
[22:02] <Shoe> thegreyspot, it's not that big of a deal. Let me try and see if it does it to me
[22:02] <cheater99> this whole story is just extremely disappointing
[22:02] <ncfi1013_> would the nvidia graphics driver version 185 be compatible with my nvidia geforce 9400 evga and not cause problems with my gui?
[22:02] <Slart> hudnix: hmmm.. odd.. it wasn't listed when I used apt.. but it's there in synaptic.. well.. anyways.. it's installing.. I'll see if it works for me
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> nztal: one person's easy is another persno's hard
[22:03] <thiebaude> Sir_Konrad, what are you trying to download?
[22:03] <cheater99> lmentop, maybe i need to somehow make a complete upgrade to 9.10 ?
[22:03] <cheater99> lmentop, do you think that could help?
[22:03] <Shoe> thegreyspot, I don't have to click
[22:03] <sls_> I would use the lts releases rather than the halfway houses for production... 9.10 for instance changed the way 'mv' works... so that it actually copies all the files and then deletes them instead of flipping a pointer... it took hours to move several gigs...
[22:03] <nztal> ActionParsnip, can you give me hint of what it takes
[22:03] <cheater99> lmentop, and how would i do that from the terminal?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> !ipod | nztal
[22:03] <hkais> my update-manager reports not authenticated packages. Anyone here who has a similar problem? How to fix it?
[22:03] <nztal> thank you
[22:03] <Sir_Konrad> thiebaude: anything. Every package says Not Available in the Current Data
[22:03] <lmentop> cheater99: sudo apt-get update  then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> nztal: i dont use ipod, they are worthless
[22:03] <Nubosal> hkais: I already told you, if you trust the packages, install them anyways,
[22:03] <crazy> hi
[22:03] <thiebaude> Sir_Konrad, synaptic doesn't work?
[22:04] <cheater99> ok
[22:04] <cheater99> doing that
[22:04] <hudnix> Slart: You have to start up an emacs instance before you use emacsclient. I have it start up in daemon mode in my desktop startup. That's the cool thing about version 23 :)
[22:04] <m4rk> how do I install mod_sqlite?
[22:04] <Sir_Konrad> let me try...
[22:04] <cheater99> invalid operation dist-upgrade
[22:04] <thiebaude> ok
[22:04] <Take0n> guys is there an e-book reader for ubuntu?
[22:04] <Nubosal> m4rk: Open terminal, apt-cache search mod_sqlite or sqlite
[22:04] <cheater99> lmentop ^
[22:04] <thegreyspot> shoe thank you I guess i will have to figure something out
[22:04] <hunney_buns> how do i access my shares on a vista machine on ubuntu 9.10?
[22:04] <hkais> Nubosal: that does not solve my issue. Why are the packages untrusted. They are in the main-support of the ubuntu-team
[22:05] <Take0n> and I don't mean a pdf reader but an app like "adobe digital editions"..
[22:05] <lmentop> cheater99: sudo do-release-upgrade ?
[22:05] <Nubosal> I dont know. I got something like that too...
[22:05] <crazy> plz how do i install program ?
[22:05] <dale> ahh, this fan is driving  me crazy and I cant find a fix anynywhere
[22:05] <cheater99> ah i mistyped
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> !info fbreader
[22:05] <Nubosal> Crazy: DO you speak spanish?
[22:05] <crazy> no
[22:05] <nztal> does the /usr/bin/ipod-read-sysinfo-extended [/dev/xxxx] /media/IPOD part of using 3rd gen or newer ipod nano have to be done once, or everytime the nano is accessed ?
[22:05] <woble> alright.. another bug found :(
[22:05] <Slart> hudnix: ah.. I'll give it a try
[22:05] <RussellAlan> untuI started my Kubuntu box and i get Mount of filesystem failed | s msintenance shel will now be started.
[22:06] <Nubosal> Crazy: Search for the program/app name, open terminal, and type apt-cache search program/app name
[22:06] <cheater99> lmentop, for the time being... do you know of an emulator that lets me have a pretend-mouse with my numpad?
[22:06] <Take0n> ActionParsnip, thanks
[22:06] <cheater99> lmentop, ubuntu is completely inoperable for me without a mouse
[22:06] <__flake> hi guys, could anyone shed any light on why my mceusb remote would stop working on reboot? once i dpkg-reconfigure lirc, and select the mce etc, it will once again work with irw etc until ive rebooted again, running 9.10
[22:06] <lmentop> cheater99: no sorry
[22:06] <cheater99> i am unable to even get on a passworded wifi network without it, after spending hours with the manuals
[22:06] <crazy> thanks
[22:07] <Nubosal> Np
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> cheater99: you can set the wifi  settings in /et/network/interfaces using terminal, or use iwconfig
[22:07] <Guest83672> Hi. does anyone know about e4defrag support in ubuntu karmic?
[22:07] <Sir_Konrad> thiebaude: Synaptic seems to work.
[22:07] <thiebaude> danopia`, enjoyed the magazine
[22:07] <m4rk> Nubosal, thanks. I tried that but it returns nothing
[22:07] <Sir_Konrad> but why doesn't Ubuntu Software Center?
[22:07] <properz> how to configuare X SERVER !!! GODDD DAMMT
[22:07] <eclipse99> Hi all
[22:07] <hunney_buns> anyone know, how do i access my shares on a vista machine on ubuntu 9.10? please help
[22:07] <Kev12345> Question: How do you resize the boot up splash screen? Feel free to query with response. Thank you.
[22:07] <danopia`> hmm?
[22:07] <Nubosal> m4rk: What is the app name?
[22:07] <thiebaude> Sir_Konrad, i dont know, but it works for me
[22:07] <properz> how to configuare X SERVER !!! GODDD DAMMT
[22:08] <cheater99> ActionParsnip, iwconfig does not do anything. I do iwconfig eth1 essid "Mynetwork" and then iwconfig eth1 key s:mykey and then i tried doing ifconfig eth1 down up and a lot of other stuff and nothing EVER happens
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> properz: once you install your nvidia drivers, reboot
[22:08] <scripted> cheater99 check in assistive technologies in preferences
[22:08] <eclipse99> anybody online that knows Citrix???
[22:08] <RussellAlan> How can I run diagnotics on this machine?
[22:08] <hunney_buns> yeah
[22:08] <m4rk> mod_sqlite
[22:08] <Guest83672> hunney_buns, i can help
[22:08] <properz> actionpanshing : i cant install its tell me configuar X SERVER
[22:08] <Nubosal> hunney_buns: I think you cant, because the partition/disk where Vista is is NTFS
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> cheater99: use the interfaces file
[22:08] <hudnix> Slart: I got it working. Deleted that launcher and created a new one.
[22:08] <properz> configuare *
[22:08] <cheater99> scripted, i cannot get to preferences, i don't have a mouse.
[22:08] <m4rk> it is an apache2 mod
[22:08] <Nubosal> Oh, he cans
[22:08] <Swian> I can't change virtual desktops in 9.10 anyone have any ideas?
[22:08] <Guest83672> hunney_buns,  want to pm?
[22:08] <hunney_buns> sure
[22:08] <Nubosal> m4rk: Wait
[22:08] <Slart> hudnix: oh.. good =)
[22:08] <Sir_Konrad> thiebaude: what does it do for you?
[22:08] <hudnix> Slart: Sorry, should have tried that first.
[22:08] <Um_cara_qualquer> excuse me, if someone knows C or C++... i would be thankful for a little help... http://pastebin.com/d66f888a3 this is the program and when i try to execute it, shows the message: Segmentation failed.
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> properz: then run: sudo nvidia-xconfig   then reboot and you should be fine
[22:09] <thiebaude> Sir_Konrad, im able to get options if i want to install something
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> cheater99: or go buy a cheapo mouse for less than the price of a pack of smokes
[22:09] <cheater99> scripted, what is the command name so that I can run that from a terminal?
[22:09] <cheater99> ActionParsnip, i can't
[22:09] <properz> ActionParsnip : i got alot of warnings
[22:09] <palomer> how do I switch my device driver to openchrome in 9.10?
[22:09] <Swian> nevermind
[22:09] <eclipse99> please pm me if you can give some advice in Citrix.......please...........
[22:09] <Nubosal> m4rk: Dont you know if it has another name?
[22:09] <cheater99> ActionParsnip, i would not be sitting here trying to figure this thing out otherwise
[22:09] <m4rk> no :(
[22:09] <Kev12345>  Question: How do you resize the boot up splash screen? Feel free to query with response. Thank you.
[22:09] <Sir_Konrad> hmm... ok. I'll have to play with it some. But I've never seen a software installer so complicated. ;P
[22:09] <cheater99> i really, really have no other way of getting this stuff running
[22:09] <cheater99> i've spent 4 hours on this already
[22:10] <thiebaude> Sir_Konrad, on the left side of ubuntu software center did you select-- Get free software?
[22:10] <yellowrooster> how do i figure out whether I have gnome/kde/xfce or some other thing?
[22:10] <ncfi1013_>  would the nvidia graphics driver version 185 be compatible with my nvidia geforce 9400 evga and not cause problems with my gui?
[22:10] <thegreyspot> Anybody know a case fan speed controller for ubuntu?
[22:10] <Xcell> ncfi1013_-   it would work fine
[22:11] <jugglerbry> hi all
[22:11] <hillshum> yellowrooster: Various ways. You could post a screenshot and ask someone, you could look at what packages are installed
[22:11] <thiebaude> ncfi1013_, i use 185 for the 8400 gs
[22:11] <Xcell> actually i use 190.42
[22:11] <yellowrooster> hillshum, what packages shouldi look at?
[22:11] <Xcell> but thats another story
[22:11] <properz> how i install my nvidia card pleaseeeeeee help me guys !!!
[22:11] <jugglerbry> have a problem with newly installed karmic, anyone help ?
[22:11] <sd__> need help
[22:11] <polandchris> properz: go to hardware drivers
[22:11] <Bsims> I have been bitten by Bug #425704 in console-setup... can this bug also affect numlock led?
[22:11] <ktzkk> sudo apt-mirror      apt-mirror is already running ,exiting at /usr/bin/apt-mirror line 187 . what does it mean?
[22:12] <scripted> cheater99 i am looking for a keyboard shortcut for you  alt+f1 for applications.
[22:12] <jugglerbry> properz, i did mine by going to system/admin then hardware drivers and mine was there
[22:12] <polandchris> jugglerbry: what kinda of a problem?
[22:12] <cheater99> oh alt-f1 works
[22:12] <hillshum> yellowrooster: ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop
[22:13] <jugglerbry> just installed karmic onto compaq desktop pc.  boots up ok, connects to wireless, but then afterabout a minute or two freezes and have to turn it off
[22:13] <scripted> ok cherater99 it will be alt+f1 to open aplications then the left button to move to system.
[22:13]  * Slart spent 20 minutes trying to figure out why my terminal was acting all weird.. until I remembered I was running an ssh session to my 8.10 server.. no wondering installing stuff didn't work =/
[22:13] <sd__> can someone help me?
[22:13] <Taejo> it appears that kdbus disappeared after intrepid... is there a replacement?
[22:13] <GSF1200S> what is it called when ubuntu runs a filesystem check automatically when 30 mounts is reached? Its not fsck...
[22:13] <Xcell> fsck
[22:13] <cheater99> scripted: that's great. do you know the wireless network 'icon' on the right?
[22:13] <jugglerbry> worked fine with jaunty
[22:13] <Venin> in Ubuntu Netbook Remix, how do I change to the Classic desktop?
[22:13] <cheater99> scripted: the one that lets you select which network to connect to etc..
[22:13] <cheater99> do you know how to get to that?
[22:13] <scripted> cheater99. no im a noob  :0)
[22:13] <Slart> GSF1200S: ehm.. I think it's running fsck.. what makes you think that's not it?
[22:14] <sd__> is someone willing to help me?
[22:14] <Dream-Ubu> how come since 9.10 in UNR i cant see my battery discharging? :/
[22:14] <polandchris> sd__: what is your problem?
[22:14] <Slart> Venin: I think they removed the desktop switcher for some reason.. not sure how to switch any more..
[22:14] <GSF1200S> Slart: fsck is faster, at least when I manually invoke it
[22:14] <Chriz1> when will ubuntu get firefox 3.7?
[22:14] <elspru> i can't seem to install build-essentials
[22:14] <__flake> hi guys, could anyone shed any light on why my mceusb remote would stop working on reboot? once i dpkg-reconfigure lirc, and select the mce etc, it will once again work with irw etc until ive rebooted again, running 9.10
[22:14] <jugglerbry> poland ? any ideas ?
[22:14] <elspru> Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[22:14] <elspru>                             libc-dev
[22:14] <elspru>                    Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.1.1) but it is not going to be installed
[22:14] <Slart> GSF1200S: no matter what switches and parameters you throw at it?
[22:14] <hassanakevazir> تعلل هس فاهس قثمشفثی فخ فاث صهقثمثسس خدمغ ؟
[22:14] <sd__>  i have followed these sterps: http://www.serenux.com/2009/10/howto-restore-the-windows-master-boot-record-mbr-without-using-a-windows-cd-using-ubuntu-karmic/
[22:15] <palomer> anyone know where I can download openchrome-stable.sh ?
[22:15] <Nubosal> hassanakevazir: English, please
[22:15] <ncfi1013_> i mean the hardware drivers dialog recommends version 185 so it should be ok
[22:15] <scripted> cheater99 but i know you can correct your mouse problem if you select the keyboard option in preferences and then use number pad to control mouse.
[22:15] <hassanakevazir> jugglerbry, does this happen only when you connect to wireless ?
[22:15] <sd__> but it didnt work, also creating the problem of xp being not recgnised
[22:15] <elspru>  libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.7-10ubuntu3) but 2.7-10ubuntu4 is to be installed
[22:15] <GSF1200S> Slart: It takes 2 hours to check my 2TB disk at startup (after 30 mounts)
[22:15] <jugglerbry> yes
[22:15] <zematynnad> I installed karmic along side of my existing jaunty installation.  Now that I've had time to make sure I've gotten all of my files transferred I wold like to delete the old partition - but the old partition is the boot partition (ext3) and karmic is (ext4) -  would fdisk or parted allow me to make this a karmic only drive or would you suggest copying all of my files to cd and doing a fresh install?
[22:15] <Randomtime> Chriz1: after mozilla have released it, I think they are developing 2.6 atm
[22:15] <sd__> i just want to undo step 4
[22:15] <GSF1200S> Slart, Seems to be, although I dont use fsck that often
[22:15] <hassanakevazir> Nubosal, sorry, my key was set to Farsi and didn't notice
[22:15] <cheater99> scripted great
[22:15] <Nubosal> Ok, no problem
[22:15] <jugglerbry> although havent yet tried to connect via lan cable as it's not really possible
[22:15] <cheater99> i've just found that
[22:15] <elspru> is there a way to install a lower version?
[22:15] <Admin__> i have a 7.1 onboard sound card and only my center and front left and right are working any ideas whats wrong ?
[22:15] <cheater99> thanks a lot
[22:15] <cheater99> at least now i can do some stuff!
[22:16] <thijs> I installed ubuntu karmic on my laptop, with a ati radeon mobility hd card. I can't install sun-java6-jdk because that won't let me boot anymore, are there any known bugs?
[22:16] <thijs> or any way to fix this ?
[22:16] <hunney_buns> anyone know how to setup networking between a vista sp2 machine and a ubuntu 9.10, through a standard router, no the router is working fine and is a dhcp server
[22:16] <unop> zematynnad, there's nothing wrong with having multiple partitions and different filesystems
[22:16] <sd__> anyone?
[22:16] <Slart> GSF1200S: I'm not sure if it just runs a quick regular default fsck.. I can't really find any good info on it either
[22:17] <Slart> GSF1200S: perhaps it's running some kind of badblocks thing as well
[22:17] <scripted> cheater99 you can then get to the wifi icon :)
[22:17] <marsje> Hi. To which file in /etc/gdm/ should I add xrandr commands that need to run at startup (karmic)?
[22:17] <zematynnad> unop: thx - it's just that the hard drive is full and I'd like to make it as efficient as possible
[22:17] <sd__> anyone?
[22:17] <properz> when i restart my computer i got virtual terminal , please help !
[22:17] <Shoe> Nubosal, sorry, I had to go eat, I selected my XP, set the amount of ram for it to use, now what?
[22:17] <assoguerozen_sx> transmission (torrent client) is good to download mp3 albuns?
[22:18] <ncfi1013_> xcell, thiebaude: activated driver and restarting now. wish me luck!
[22:18] <hassanakevazir> jugglerbry, then do lspci | grep Wireless , then do a search with <Wireless card short name/model #> Karmic, see if anyone is having similar problems
[22:18] <Nubosal> Shoe: Wait
[22:18] <cheater99> scripted, amazing. thanks a lot
[22:18] <Venin> when I used the livecd ubuntu asked me if I wanted to install proprietary drivers for my WIFI card... but now that Ive installed, how do I make it ask me that question again? :)
[22:18] <cheater99> that's exactly what i needed right now
[22:18] <assoguerozen_sx> im getting alot of bugged files (musics) here
[22:18] <GSF1200S> slart: perhaps.. it shouldnt considering the drive is 2 weeks old. It just sucks being out of a computer for two hours while it runs its check
[22:18] <Nubosal> Shoe: In the RAM, select a little above of the min. of XP
[22:18] <hunney_buns> anyone know how to setup networking between a vista sp2 machine and a ubuntu 9.10, through a standard router, no the router is working fine and is a dhcp server
[22:18] <Sir_Konrad> how do I refresh my software sources with Ubuntu Software Center?
[22:18] <scripted> s'ok cheater99.  im learning in here and absorbing the knowledge.
[22:18] <cheater99> thanks man
[22:18] <scripted> cheater99 im also nosey :)
[22:18] <GSF1200S> slart: all im trying to figure out how to do is run it manually, as its my backup drive and i can run the OS without it
[22:18] <Shoe> max is 153 MB =\
[22:18] <cheater99> that saves my life
[22:19] <mordof> running 9.04 32bit.. it wouldn't recognize all 4gb of ram if i had it, correct? that's not just something that windows fails at?
[22:19] <Nubosal> Then select it
[22:19] <cheater99> now i can actually go to sleep ... heh
[22:19] <unop> zematynnad, what's on the boot partition in relation to karmic? the bootloader?
[22:19] <scripted> 1opm where i am
[22:19] <Nubosal> Shoe: Then says to select your HDD . Create your virtual HDD
[22:19] <hunney_buns> anyone know how to setup networking between a vista sp2 machine and a ubuntu 9.10, through a standard router, no the router is working fine and is a dhcp server
[22:19] <Kev12345>  Question: How do you resize the boot up splash screen? Feel free to query with response. Thank you.
[22:19] <GSF1200S> Slart: sudo /sbin/e2fsck -f <device> is what im trying now
[22:19] <Admin__> mordof that is correct
[22:19] <Sir_Konrad> oh wait no. I got it. Never mind. ;P
[22:20] <ktzkk> sudo apt-mirror       apt-mirror is already running , exiting at /usr/bin/apt-mirror line 187 .
[22:20] <Shoe> Nubosal, what do you mean?
[22:20] <Nubosal> After selecting the RAM
[22:20] <Nubosal> Says something about HDD
[22:20] <ktzkk> what does it mean? can anyone help me?
[22:20] <Nubosal> Is not especially hard to setup a Virtual Machine
[22:20] <aoupi> is there some win7 + 9.10 dualboot howto?
[22:20] <aoupi> (not using a file in windows with wubi)
[22:21] <aoupi> proper partition for both OS'es
[22:21] <hunney_buns> anyone know how to setup networking between a vista sp2 machine and a ubuntu 9.10, through a standard router, no the router is working fine and is a dhcp server
[22:21] <Nubosal> In wich OS are you at the moment, aoupi ?
[22:21] <aoupi> Nubosal: neither, it's all fresh
[22:21] <unop> !samba > hunney_buns
[22:21] <elspru> hunney_buns: samba
[22:21] <Slart> GSF1200S: doesn't ext4 come with an online fsck? or it was an defrag utility?
[22:21] <djungelkraem> how do i use vdpau?
[22:21] <RussellAlan> whats the command to check disk size?
[22:21] <sd__> no one?
[22:22] <linduxed> RussellAlan: df -h
[22:22] <Nubosal> aoupi: Boot into the PC, and come and tell us which OS is booted
[22:22] <thijs> I installed ubuntu karmic on my laptop, with a ati radeon mobility hd card. I can't install sun-java6-jdk because that won't let me boot anymore, I need java installed, is there any workaround ?
[22:22] <aoupi> Nubosal: blank disc
[22:22] <aoupi> Nubosal: nothing on it
[22:22] <Nubosal> Oh
[22:22] <BasketCase> is there an easy way to get UNR 9.10 onto a USB stick without usb-creator (I don't have a Ubuntu or Windows system available)?  It was easy for 9.04 which came as an image file instead of an iso :\
[22:22] <Nubosal> Mmm
[22:22] <GSF1200S> Slart, Im running ext3 on the backup drive, with ext4 on everything else. I need ext3 so that the backup drive is accessible for windows
[22:22] <Nubosal> I'd recommend to first install Windows
[22:22] <hunney_buns> unop, elspru so lets imagine it worked in 9.04 with samba, now it does not in 9.10, i only see the admin shares ($c) and one shared folder
[22:23] <Nubosal> Resize the partition to whatever you want in NTFS, and leave the blank space to Ubuntu
[22:23] <aoupi> Nubosal: but seems like grub2 will completely forget about windows once ubuntu installs
[22:23] <Slart> GSF1200S: ah.. I see.. seems like a reasonable decision
[22:23] <aoupi> so was hoping for some howto, since someone must have done this before
[22:23] <linduxed> sd__: first of all
[22:23] <Polarina> How do I enable IPv6 on 9.10? My router is IPv6 enabled and active.
[22:23] <Randomtime> Why does ubuntu create it's own swap when you set the installer to "use empty space" - even if there is a swap avalible?
[22:23] <aoupi> hrm found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1035999
[22:23] <properz> i cant get my computer work its tell me tty1 help please
[22:23] <aoupi> what a mess :D
[22:23] <ktzkk> sudo apt-mirror       apt-mirror is already running , exiting at /usr/bin/apt-mirror line 187 .   what does it mean ?help me !!!
[22:23] <aoupi> oh well
[22:23] <linduxed> sd__: you're not very familiar with how you ask questions on IRC are you?
[22:23] <Venin> BasketCase, I put the iso on a usb stick with unetbootin and booted it.. then I put in another usb stick and just installed onto that
[22:24] <Slart> GSF1200S: have you looked at this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoFsck
[22:24] <zematynnad> unop:  http://pastebin.ca/1655559   Karmic is on 6, jaunty is on 1 (primary)
[22:24] <RussellAlan> Hmm, instead of backing up a terabyte drive that is fat32, i could just partition it with a ntfs partition? (point is to transfer files larger then 4gb)
[22:24] <sd__> no
[22:24] <linduxed> sd__: i'd google that for future reference
[22:24] <Randomtime> sd__: please ask your question, don't ask to ask
[22:24] <linduxed> sd__: secondly
[22:24] <GSF1200S> Slart: yeah, works for me- just sucks when it hits 30 mounts and im waiting 2 hours to use the OS when its only a backup drive...
[22:24] <Nubosal> aoupi: No
[22:24] <properz> i cant get my computer work its tell me tty1 help please
[22:24] <assoguerozen_sx> transmission (torrent client) is good to download mp3 albuns? im getting alot of mp3 files with bug here... maybe deluge better?
[22:24] <Nubosal> FIrst install windows
[22:24] <Nubosal> Then Ubuntu
[22:24] <GSF1200S> Slart, no i havent.. lemme take a look
[22:24] <Nubosal> Thats how worked for me
[22:24] <losha> GSF1200S: so are you using the ext2 driver for windows? I never found it to be that good...
[22:24] <linduxed> sd__: what you have done is that you've overwritten the boot sector
[22:25] <Randomtime> properz: what's the problem
[22:25] <jugglerbry> hassanakevazir : thanks for that.  just tried to boot it again, but froze almost as soon as it loaded.  dont think it's wireless related now as i didnt allow it to connect
[22:25] <sblunix> Quick Question Everyone:
[22:25] <properz> Randomtime : i reboot my computer and i get a tty1 message
[22:25] <hypercity> how can i prevent the screen from dimming the light after some sec of inactiviti
[22:25] <GSF1200S> losha- its working.. I only use it for reads
[22:25] <Nubosal> sblunix: ?
[22:25] <properz> "ubuntu 9.10 r tty1"
[22:25] <Admin__> hunney_buns : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[22:25] <linduxed> sd__: in the process you've removed the bit that is checked for at boottime (bootloaders)
[22:25] <Ben64> hypercity: thats a setting of compiz, you can turn off that "feature"
[22:25] <hypercity> how can i prevent the screen from dimming the light after some sec of inactivity
[22:26] <unop> zematynnad,  you could just remove partition 1 then - and reinstall/repair grub to now point at the karmic partition.
[22:26] <sblunix> Nubosal, If I download Thunderbird, will the mail notification Icon notify me when I get a new message in thunderbird, or does it only work for evolution
[22:26] <GSF1200S> losha- i prolly only boot windows once every few months or when I have to use a specific program for school.. I dont write with the program at all
[22:26] <zvacet> assoguerozen_sx : it works for me but you can always try something else deluge is good choice
[22:26] <Shoe> Nubosal, I'm on the first run window. What do I put for the media type and media source?
[22:26] <properz> how i fix it ? "ubuntu 9.10 r tty1"  i cant get my computer work
[22:26] <Nubosal> Well, about that I dont know
[22:26] <linduxed> sd__: one way of getting back XP is to use "fixmbr" on an XP installation disk
[22:26] <hypercity> ben64: can u tell me witch is
[22:26] <Nubosal> Shoe: Wait
[22:26] <tc111> hypercity: uncheck 'dim display when idle' in the 'power preferences manager'
[22:26] <xrandr> I'm having a problem playing any type of video in VLC. This is the error: x11 video output error: X11 request 132.19 failed with error code 8:BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)     I'm using ubuntu 9.10
[22:26] <linduxed> sd__: google that for more
[22:26] <zematynnad> unop: risky?
[22:26] <__flake> anyone shed any light on why lirc dies on reboot? 9.10, irw doesnt get any input, if i dpkg-reconfigure lirc, it works again until i reboot again
[22:26] <jox> hi how can i remove all key with apt-key ?
[22:26] <BasketCase> Venin: ahh, thanks, unetbootin is not ubuntu specific :)   Too bad they didn't bother to document that possibility
[22:26] <assoguerozen_sx> zvacet ok... i used to manage torrents with deluge, but actually i get transmission
[22:27] <properz> how i fix it ? "ubuntu 9.10 r tty1"  i cant get my computer work HELP PLEASE
[22:27] <assoguerozen_sx> zvacet lets get some more use with it
[22:27] <linduxed> sd__: and the other way is to install grub again, preferrably using a liveCD or liveUSB
[22:27] <unop> zematynnad,  not really and unless you have something on partition #1
[22:27] <Slart> xrandr: try unchecking the "Embed video in interface" option in preferences
[22:27] <need_help> hello need help! when i login remotely to vsftpd it give me : permission denied 505! how i can fix this thx
[22:27] <unop> !grub > zematynnad,
[22:27] <Skaag> I need to find a working apt repo for feisty... any chance of that happening?
[22:27] <Slart> xrandr: it's in the "interface" panel in preferences..
[22:27] <penthief> properz try 'apt-get remove compiz*'
[22:27] <unop> !grub > zematynnad
[22:28] <xrandr> thanks
[22:28] <linduxed> sd__: oh and as for the original question
[22:28] <erUSUL> Skaag: old-releases.ubuntu.com
[22:28] <xrandr> it worked!
[22:28] <xrandr> thanx
[22:28] <Skaag> thanks
[22:28] <properz> how i fix it ? "ubuntu 9.10 r tty1"  i cant get my computer work HELP PLEASE
[22:28] <linduxed> sd__: you can't really undo a dd command, not in any pretty way i can think of
[22:28] <Slart> xrandr: you're welcome
[22:28] <Admin__> still having sound trouble my 7.1 onboard sound card only plays the center and front left and right any ideas whats wrong ?
[22:29] <crohakon> Nice... My printer... with Vista x64... I went through hell getting it work and finding the write drivers (I had to use drivers for another printer type by HP to use it with windows x64) and with linux... I plug it in... and it just works... no setting up... no hassle... plug it in.. recognized, and printing. Thank you ubunut!
[22:29] <properz> how i fix it ? "ubuntu 9.10 r tty1"  i cant get my computer work HELP PLEASE
[22:29] <dksoba> Is it possible to run Cygwin from within Ubuntu? I have some software that only runs in Cygwin on Windows but I want to run it on Ubuntu so I don't have to dual boot (Kind of bass ackward eh?)
[22:29] <thegreyspot> What do you guys use as your main music/video player? Im just not liking songbird :(
[22:29] <__flake> anyone shed any light on why lirc dies on reboot? 9.10, irw doesnt get any input, if i dpkg-reconfigure lirc, it works again until i reboot again
[22:29] <zvacet> Admin__ : why don´t you upgrade to some supported version
[22:29] <Admin__> i use vlc
[22:29] <Xcell> smplayer = video   audacious = music
[22:30] <VCoolio> thegreyspot: I think banshee and rhythmbox are most popular, or use mpd with a client
[22:30] <erUSUL> dksoba: if it works in a emulated unix env (cywin) it will work in a proper unix envoirment afaics
[22:30] <sd__>  /MSG <linduxed>but
[22:30] <zvacet> Admin__ : I misunderstand you sory
[22:30] <thegreyspot> VCoolio ok thank you
[22:30] <dksoba> erUSUL, linux won't run it. And I think you have to recompile specially for cygwin
[22:30] <The-Jag> Can anyone suggest me a good password manager with customisable fields?
[22:30] <crohakon> Is there a way to mount a CD image like you would in windows via daemon tools?
[22:31] <Slart> !mountiso | crohakon
[22:31] <hassanakevazir> jugglerbry, if you can get enough time on it without crashing, do "dmseg | grep error" to look for errors, or do "pastebinit /var/log/messages" and paste the url here or in the forums for others to see it. If it doesn't give you enough time, try booting with a live CD, and then do the same using /media/<drivename>/var/log/messages
[22:31] <sqrt[evil]> i just installed 9.10 on my laptop and i'm having mouse issues - clicks are either not detected register as 'mouse held down' or work properly in about equal proportion
[22:31] <Slart> crohakon: you won't get the anti copy protection stuff.. but you can access it like a normal cd
[22:31] <crohakon> will a program in Wine recognize it as being a CD in a drive?
[22:31] <properz> how i fix it ? "ubuntu 9.10 r tty1"  i cant get my computer work HELP PLEASE
[22:31] <erUSUL> !details | properz
[22:32] <Slart> properz: I have no idea what you are talking about.. is that an error message?
[22:32] <scripted> i have a really large colleciton of mp3's.  if i wanted to create a database and then add hyperlinks to the files and make the process of indexing the mp3's automatically hoow could i achive this? and with what apps
[22:32] <jugglerbry> hassanakevazir: thanks will do
[22:32] <properz> i tired configuare x server and then when i reboot my computer i get a black screen with "ubuntu 9.10 r tty1"
[22:32] <Slart> scripted: add hyperlinks? to the mp3s? or create some kind of webpage?
[22:32] <Admin__> no worries zvacet
[22:32] <erUSUL> scripted: many players index and mantains music colections
[22:33] <properz> i tired configuare x server and then when i reboot my computer i get a black screen with "ubuntu 9.10 r tty1"  how to fix it ?
[22:33] <Admin__> my sound was fine with ubuntu 9.04
[22:33] <scripted> slart some kind of standalone database that i can click on the hyperlinks to take me to the files. but i dont want a media player, allot fall over and reinstallation wipes em out too
[22:33] <Admin__> but some things changed with ubuntu 9.10
[22:33] <need_help> how i can make vsftpd on login to open to /media not HOME DIRECTORY! thx
[22:33] <m0smith> !smaba
[22:33] <patrik> Hi, I have a headless ubuntu 9.04 server install that I want to upgrade to 9.10. So I'm planning to do this over ssh but I'm unsure if it's safe. Should I start the install with a "screen" so it won't die during an upgrade of ssh itself.
[22:33] <hassanakevazir> jugglerbry, you said it freezes, does Alt+Ctrl+F2 get you to a terminal?
[22:34] <m0smith> !samba
[22:34] <dios_mio> properz, well if it was slackware i would edit the /etc/inittab and make the default runlevel 4 instead 3
[22:34] <zvacet> !samba
[22:34] <ScHiZoPReNic_1`i> hi :)
[22:34] <Slart> scripted: oh.. don't think I've seen a mp3-database thingy that doesn't also play those mp3s.. sorry
[22:34] <scripted> erusul i know media players can index the files for me but i want to keep the database file on a nas driver seperate to the pc's
[22:34] <alexgee> in which folder would Eclipse normally be installed ?
[22:34] <ScHiZoPReNic_1`i> türk warmý?
[22:34] <The-Jag> noone?
[22:34] <jugglerbry> hassanakevazir:can't do anything.  just had enough time to look for the folder/file you suggested, but nothing in var/log no 'messages'
[22:35] <__flake> anyone shed any light on why lirc dies on reboot? 9.10, irw doesnt get any input, if i dpkg-reconfigure lirc, it works again until i reboot again
[22:35] <jugglerbry> just a thought, but would this happen if i installed 32bit on a 64bit system ?
[22:35] <dios_mio> ScHiZoPReNic_1`i, #ubuntu-tr
[22:35] <sd__> can someone help me?
[22:35] <scripted> i want to creata a database of my tunes and make it so i can click on the link to open the file or maybe the file location and i dont want to have to input them all myself
[22:35] <ScHiZoPReNic_1`i> thanx dios_mio :)
[22:35] <m0smith> !share
[22:36] <m0smith> !winows
[22:36] <alexgee> as in, i got the Eclipse .tar.gz and I am wondering where would be the normal place to extract it
[22:36] <m0smith> !windows
[22:36] <skorasaurus> !usb
[22:36] <skorasaurus> !mount
[22:36] <skorasaurus> !fat
[22:36] <rblst> i've upgraded to karmic and my hp laserjet 1018 no longer works; can anyone help me with this please?
[22:36] <m0smith> !cifs
[22:36] <scripted> open office can provide me with the database but what about getting it to find only the mp3's and index them ..  am i better off asking in a databse channel if one exists?
[22:36] <m0smith> !smbfs
[22:37] <Venin> when I used the livecd ubuntu asked me if I wanted to install proprietary drivers for my WIFI card... but now that Ive installed, how do I make it ask me that question again? :)
[22:37] <The-Jag> please any advice on a good password manager?
[22:37] <RhysTM> can anyone recommend a video conversion program to use with 9.10
[22:37] <iceroot> how to create a mp3 from a musik cd (only one track i need in mp3)
[22:37] <RhysTM> i used to use convertit
[22:37] <sd___> help>
[22:37] <sd___> help?
[22:37] <penthief> RhysTM: handbrake
[22:37] <RhysTM> but it requires an earlier version of gambas
[22:38] <N1ckR> Why would my settings in hdparm not be picked up on reboot ?
[22:38] <RhysTM> is that in the repos?
[22:38] <N1ckR> hdparm.conf even.
[22:38] <alexgee> my best guess would be to put eclipse under /usr/sbin/eclipse ... does that make sense?
[22:38] <zvacet> Venin . look in system<admin>hardware drivers
[22:38] <hunney_buns> can anyone help me with the weirdest networking issue, had it working in 9.04 with samba, im trying to access the shares on a vista machine. out of 20 shares i can see 2/20 and i can access 1/20 that one perfectly, have 18 more folders shared with same permissions and folder owners etc. why do i only see those 2 folders... in 9.04 i see all 20..
[22:38] <Venin> zvacet, just says no propietary drivers found
[22:39] <Venin> proprietary
[22:39] <losha> iceroot: I've used grip in the past. There must be tons more. grip - GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder
[22:39] <iceroot> losha: sounds good, thx
[22:39] <sd___> anyone?
[22:39] <Venin> "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system."
[22:39] <iceroot> !ask | sd___
[22:39] <scripted> hunny_buns if i open a samba share all my desktop icons disapear.  it didnt do that in9.04 :( i can't help with your network issue but i hope you do get it fixed.
[22:40] <sd___> sorry
[22:40] <zvacet> Venin : sorry that was all I can think of maybe you will be better luck with somebody else here
[22:40] <Venin> zvacet, thanks
[22:40] <RhysTM> penthief: 0.9.3 is no longer works on ubuntu due to a libgtk update.
[22:40] <RhysTM> This will be resolved with the 0.9.4 release.
[22:41] <sd___> i have followe these following steps: http://www.serenux.com/2009/10/howto-restore-the-windows-master-boot-record-mbr-without-using-a-windows-cd-using-ubuntu-karmic/
[22:41] <sd___> nothing worked
[22:41] <roy_hobbs> How come karmic says that xserver 1.7 is installed, but 1.6 is what's actually running?
[22:41] <hunney_buns> scripted , ill shed a tear with you :D i just can not wrap my head around it, did i describe it understandably?
[22:41] <tc111> hypercity: unchecked both when 'on ac power' and 'on battery power'?
[22:41] <penthief> RhysTM: Hmmmmm, shame.
[22:41] <sd___> now xp is unrecognisable by grub, how do I undo process?
[22:41] <jugglerbry> hunney_buns:i've never been able to get samba working in either 9.04 or 9.10 (well havent gotten 9.10 working yet), hoping to try again though. hope it works soon, although does sound strange how 2/20 are showing but not the others
[22:41] <sls_> hey, how old does my iPod configuration need to be for Ubuntu to be able to sync with it?
[22:41] <penthief> RhysTM: Of course you could grab the source and compile it if you can be bothered
[22:41] <FiReSTaRT> sd___: install grub2.. it'll boot xp
[22:41] <hypercity> tc111: yes
[22:42] <scripted> hunney_buns i understand it perfectly
[22:42] <hunney_buns> works like a charm in 9.04 with samba at near max speeds of network, differing from win what
[22:42] <screamer> hello all
[22:42] <jrib> !ipod | sls_
[22:42] <Admin__> what do yous think of this ?
[22:42] <Admin__> 1. Add user to audio group
[22:42] <Admin__> sudo adduser 'you' audio
[22:42] <Admin__> 2. Delete contents of ~/.pulse
[22:42] <Admin__> 3. Reboot.
[22:42] <zvacet>  sd___ :   http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/p18.html
[22:42] <FloodBot1> Admin__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:42] <boraklavun> hello everyone I ve a question for ubuntu 9.10
[22:43] <hunney_buns> maybe if i sacrifice a pinguin and smear my router with its blood? and dance wildly
[22:43] <boraklavun> I hope anybody can helpme
[22:43] <dios_mio> hunney_buns, lol
[22:43] <hassanakevazir> jugglerbry, you sure you didn't forget the "/" in "/var/log/messages" ?
[22:43] <c3l> boraklavun, just ask, dont tell us that you will ask, or ask if you can ask, just ask! =)
[22:43] <need_help> how i can make vsftpd on login to open to /media not HOME DIRECTORY! thx
[22:43] <screamer> i need some help w/ ubuntu 9.10 settings
[22:43] <zvacet> !ask | boraklavun
[22:43] <scripted> hunney_buns i can't think of a reason. have you tried altering the permissions and then put them back again?
[22:43] <Ali> if i have more than one server alias, how would i specifiy that in nginx?
[22:43] <dios_mio> hunney_buns, if you cant get help here, i would recommend #networking and #samba as well
[22:44] <jugglerbry> hassanakevazir: went via places/filesystem then looked in /var/log then found nothing relating to messages
[22:44] <boraklavun> when I used 9.04 crtl+alt+f2 I can go x window
[22:44] <t0rc> whats the difference between using: . script.sh and ./script.sh       - i know the latter has to have a +x chmod but are there other differences as well? I tried installing an application and the former generated errors while the latter functioned just fine
[22:44] <scripted> hunney_buns i cant see how that might help, but what ever floats your boat
[22:44] <kubuntuser> need_help: nice name ;-). did you look in the config file?
[22:44] <hunney_buns> scripted, will try to share some new folders, did it earlier but it did nothing, dios_mio  ty will try
[22:44] <Polarina> How do I enable IPv6 on 9.10? The router is IPv6 enabled and tcpdump confirms that there are router advertisements being sent.
[22:44] <screamer> can some one can help me w/ linux settings
[22:44] <boraklavun> and also  I could retrn when ı  was writing  exit ı could back desktop
[22:44] <jrib> t0rc: the first sources the script, the second executes it... You'll probably see immediately the difference if you think of a python script for example
[22:44] <kubuntuser> !ask | screamer
[22:45] <boraklavun> but  on ubuntu 9.10
[22:45] <Polarina> !ipv6
[22:45] <Randomtime> !enter boraklavun
[22:45] <Randomtime> !enter | boraklavun
[22:45] <zvacet> Polarina : under metwork manager you can enable ipv6
[22:45] <boraklavun> yes ı forgot ıt
[22:45] <t0rc> jrib, what do you mean by sources the script?
[22:45] <need_help> kubuntuser yes there's nothing like Defaultroot or anything say for this
[22:46] <boraklavun> after ı wrote exit press enter button
[22:46] <jrib> t0rc: the shell reads it in and executes it as though you typed in each line
[22:46] <jrib> !enter | boraklavun
[22:46] <kubuntuser> need_help: what ftp server again?
[22:46] <screamer> !ask | where do i change display settings for the screensaver (equal to win enviroment)
[22:46] <RhysTM> penthief: trying that now
[22:46] <need_help> kubuntuser vsftpd
[22:46] <artis2kewl> how to boot into windows while in ubuntu?
[22:46] <Polarina> zvacet: Where's the network manager? I don't see it.
[22:46] <dj_> hey jrib: i have some rar files i want to extract them i get error how can i get Corrupted files reservations" can extract out
[22:47] <t0rc> jrib, ahhhh intriguing
[22:47] <zvacet> pola
[22:47] <RhysTM> penthief: what is it like for speed of converting?
[22:47] <Fishscene> How do I find out the processor speed on my Ubuntu 9.10 machine?
[22:47] <zvacet> Polarina: upper right on panel
[22:47] <jrib> dj_: I can help you better if I understand what you are saying.  Please try to use some form of punctuation
[22:47] <boraklavun> but now on 9.10 I can  not go back desktop when ı was writing exit on x windows I could not go  back desktop How Should ı do  that can anyone helpme ?
[22:47] <woble> Fishscene actual? command top
[22:47] <Rockj> Can anyone please tell me they have a fix for the SLOW grub-menu?  Seriously, it's really frustrating..
[22:48] <nukasl> i have an hp pavillion dv6000 laptop. i installed ubuntu 9.10 today and it is making this horrid clicking noise from my laptop speakers even though i have other speakers plugged in. help!
[22:48] <Polarina> zvacet: I enabled IPv6 there (Set it to Automatic), and it won't establish an ethernet connection afterwards.
[22:48] <losha> t0rc: good question. The first one '. script.sh' sources script.sh into the currently running shell, as though you'd typed all the commands in script.sh one by one. The second form runs script.sh in a copy of the shell (a subshell) which then terminates when the script finishes. The main difference is that the first from allows you to make permanent changes to the 'environment' of the main...
[22:48] <losha> ...shell, the second form doesn't. Clear as mud, right?
[22:48] <kubuntuser> need_help: you can use local_root to redirect logged in users
[22:48] <hassanakevazir> jugglerbry, ok , try "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "pastebinit dmesg" and copy down the URL
[22:48] <dj_> jrib: i have 40 rar files, some are corrupted how can i extract out the corrupted files with rar, or i can delete them manually
[22:48] <kubuntuser> need_help: or anon_root for anonymous login
[22:48] <woble> Polarino, router / modem supports ipv6?
[22:48] <need_help> kubuntuser i don't want anonymous login , i want it remotely
[22:48] <t0rc> losha, yeah somewhat obscure but I think I've got it
[22:48] <t0rc> ;)
[22:48] <zvacet> Polarina: I don´t use it I just know there are setting for it sorry
[22:48] <Polarina> woble: Yes, it is sending router advertisements.
[22:49] <t0rc> losha, jrib thanks
[22:49] <alonsoj> hola!
[22:49] <woble> Polarino, does it work in ipv4 modus?
[22:49] <jugglerbry> hassanakevazir: thank you, i'll do that now if i can.  brb
[22:49] <Polarina> woble: ?
[22:49] <Fishscene> woble: Thanks! But I don't see the processor speed (like 1.2 GHz). Is there a way to see this?
[22:49] <hillshum> Are there any ways to sync Remember the Milk to Evolution or to a Palm or both?
[22:49] <screamer> where do i change the display settings in linux (screensaver options)
[22:49] <kubuntuser> need_help: add local_root=/media/whatever to your config
[22:49] <coreyman> So if I wanted to go back to Ubuntu, I'd have to have a seperate windows installation for gaming. Should I do a dual boot, or would a virtual machine installation be enough?
[22:49] <skorasaurus> hi, is anyone else having a trouble with USB drives not automatically mounting ? (in karmic) (drive is FAT)
[22:50] <jrib> screamer: no where!  Heh, gnome-screensaver got rid of all the configuration.  You might want to use xscreensaver instead
[22:50] <dj_> jrib: i have 40 rar files, some are corrupted how can i extract out the corrupted files with rar, or i can delete them manually
[22:50] <Fishscene> coreyman: Gaming in a virtual machine is not recommended.
[22:50] <coreyman> Fishscene thanks!
[22:50] <jrib> dj_: what do you mean by "extract out"?
[22:50] <artis2kewl> HOW DO I RUN WINDOWS while in UBUNTU 9.10?
[22:50] <jrib> artis2kewl: you mean virtualized?
[22:50] <jrib> !caps | artis2kewl
[22:50] <Fishscene> artis2kewl: You can use VirtualBox
[22:50] <alexgee> i want to drag and drop something from archive roller to /opt ... so i need temporary access rights ... how do i get those?
[22:50] <screamer> jrib : where do i get xscreensaver?
[22:50] <woble> Fishscene $sudo lshw
[22:50] <hillshum> !vbox | artis2kewl
[22:50] <jrib> alexgee: gksudo nautilus -- make sure you know what you are doing
[22:50] <jrib> screamer: in APT of course!
[22:51] <jrib> !software > screamer
[22:51] <artis2kewl> thaks
[22:51] <artis2kewl> sorry
[22:51] <sqrt[evil]> i just installed 9.10 on my laptop and i'm having mouse issues - clicks are either not detected register as 'mouse held down' or work properly in about equal proportion
[22:51] <Trizicus> With 'apt-get' how do I specify 32 bit software install instead of 64-bit equiv?
[22:51] <boraklavun> but now on 9.10 I can  not go back desktop when ı was writing exit on x windows I could not go  back desktop How Should ı do  that can anyone helpme ?
[22:51] <jrib> Trizicus: not possible.  Why do you want to?
[22:52] <Deathvalley122> they need to make an add on for songbird for Ipod Touch
[22:52] <Trizicus> because 64 bit firefox sucks
[22:52] <jrib> Trizicus: not really.  Why do you think it does?
[22:52] <RhysTM> Trizicus: why does it suck?
[22:52] <Trizicus> well besides it crashing all the time
[22:52] <hassanakevazir> sqrt[evil], As in touch clicks or button clicks?
[22:52] <alexgee> jrib: can't i get temp root in my whole desktop instead of only 1 nautilus window?
[22:52] <losha> dj_: there are various windows programs that claim to fix corrupted rars. I've never used any of them. You can google for them. I don't know of any linux programs that do the same...
[22:52] <Venin> how to solve b43-phy0 ERROR: FOUND UNSUPPORTED PHY ?
[22:52] <jrib> alexgee: no.  Why would you want that anyway?  You wouldn't need it for the scenario you described
[22:52] <Trizicus> i rather not install 32 bit into /opt/ there is no way in synaptic/apt to install 32 bit sw?
[22:52] <woble> losha, dj_ you need PAR files to do this
[22:52] <Fishscene> woble: Pure Awesomness. Although I'm incredibly worried. It's reporting the clock to be at 100MHz on a P3 machine. yikes!  Thanks though, I learned 2 new commands today :D
[22:53] <sqrt[evil]> hassanakevazir: click clicks, i turned off touchpad clicks
[22:53] <sabat> !software > sabat
[22:53] <woble> Fishscene, lshw means listhardware :) its pretty easy
[22:53] <dj_> woble: yes they are rar files
[22:53] <jrib> Trizicus: 64bit firefox does not suck.  If your firefox is crashing and you can reproduce it you should be filing bugs
[22:53] <alexgee> jrib: because file roller is already opened so drag and dropping didn't work... i'll try again
[22:53] <touil> hi
[22:53] <woble> dj_ you need PAR Files to repair them, if you have PAR files you can use something like quickpar or Par2
[22:53] <Trizicus> jrib: It's with 64 bit flash. Also java performance with 64-bit firefox is horrible.
[22:53] <woble> dj_ available through software center
[22:54] <jrib> alexgee: what are you installing anyway?
[22:54] <Fishscene> woble: Yea. But I'm always excited to learn a new command that would be very useful
[22:54] <jrib> Trizicus: how did you install flash?
[22:54] <Trizicus> adobes website, downloaded 64 bit plugin
[22:54] <woble> Fishscene, you could install htop (sudo apt-get htop) its an easier to read version of top
[22:54] <alexgee> jrib: Eclipse PDT from a tar.gz
[22:54] <RhysTM> the .so and copied to plugins folder?
[22:54] <dj_> woble: no they are 40 rar files, some files are corrupted, however i need to extract the rar files even thought they are some rar files corrupted, the rar file will open and work
[22:54] <jugglerbry> hassanakevazir: it's getting surprisingly worse.  cant even click 'applications' or wont let me do anything unless i enter keyring for network manager. as soon as i do this, it freezes, or even before i enter anything.
[22:55] <jrib> Trizicus: I haven't had any problems with it, and I actually think it works better than the 32bit one.  But you can install the 32bit one on 64bit firefox if you install flashplugin-nonfree on ubuntu
[22:55] <penthief> Has anyone using chromium found that the extensions bar has disappeared since upgrading to 9.10?
[22:55] <woble> dj_ its probably a paired archive, you need all 40 parts complete and uncorrupted
[22:55] <jugglerbry> hassanakevazir: I'll reinstall 9.04 and see if the same thing happens, which will be interesting, as 9.04 worked fine before i reinstalled
[22:55] <Fishscene> woble: Downloading and isntalling now.
[22:55] <Trizicus> jrib: That still does not fix the java performance in 64 bit
[22:55] <losha> woble: par files are a separate technology from rar files. Par files help fix corruptions/missing files but are not specific to the rar format. You can use pars with any set of files....
[22:55] <need_help> kubuntuser didn't work
[22:55] <jrib> Trizicus: what java are you using?
[22:55] <Trizicus> jrib: Sun
[22:55] <hassanakevazir> jugglerbry, was 9.10 a fresh install or an upgrade?
[22:55] <woble> losha, true but its most commonly used with rar.. something with pirates :)
[22:56] <jrib> Trizicus: are you sure?
[22:56] <Admin__> sound fixed
[22:56] <Trizicus> jrib: Yes
[22:56] <devD> I have 64 bit os compatible processor and 2 GB RAM, should i install 64 bit ubuntu or 32 bit ?
[22:56] <dj_> woble: no they are 40 rar files, some files are corrupted, however i need to extract the rar files even thought they are some rar files corrupted, the rar file will open and work, but i can not extract them cause iget message  corrupted file now i want to extract the files and it must be options Corrupted files can extract out
[22:56] <jrib> Trizicus: how are you measuring performance?
[22:56] <jugglerbry> hassanakevazir: fresh install using the whole of the hard drive
[22:56] <woble> dj_, the only way to open them is repair them
[22:56] <Trizicus> jrib: Well in 3d apps by FPS
[22:56] <woble> dj_, that means redownload the corrupt parts, or repair the corrupt parts
[22:56] <dj_> woble:how to repair them
[22:56] <losha> dj_: the only thing I know of for rars on linux is the -kb switch (keeps broken extracted files)....
[22:57] <woble> dj_, with par files, a good release contains par files next to rar files
[22:57] <jrib> Trizicus: it would be great if you could file bugs against it then
[22:57] <Trizicus> jrib: 32 bit java can excede 60 fps for me. 64 bit openjdk ~ 5 fps and 64-bit sun java about 10
[22:57] <crazysail> does anybody have experience with 8.04, specifically with compiz?
[22:57] <LordHawke13> Hi peoplez!!
[22:57] <ekontsevoy> I have written a bash script that configures my Apple keyboard (swaps Apple and Alt keys). Is there a way I can configure this script to run when that keyboard actually gets plugged in?
[22:57] <kubuntuser> need_help: first of all, did you restart the ftp server (I need to ask)
[22:57] <Trizicus> jrib: How is performance a bug...
[22:57] <woble> dj_, if its a torrent forget about it, redownload the broken parts
[22:57] <losha> dj_: where did the rars come from?
[22:57] <Admin__> for all of yous having sound trouble with 9.10 do these simple steps 1. open terminal 2. type alsamixer
[22:57] <jrib> Trizicus: erm, you don't think it is?
[22:57] <dj_> losha: whats the program name so i can downlodaed
[22:57] <need_help> kubuntuser yes sure after any modify , i restart the daemon
[22:57] <hassanakevazir> jugglerbry, hmm, so it has some serious issues out of box, thats pretty bad. you could try to boot into recovery mode. but never mind, if it was a fresh install, then somethings really wrong there
[22:57] <Admin__> 3. [SOLUTION]
[22:57] <Admin__> Regarding this problem, I found the solution by running alsamixer and toggling the option:
[22:57] <Admin__> IEC958 1
[22:57] <Admin__> (ie, going to that option and pressing 'm').
[22:57] <FloodBot1> Admin__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:57] <LordHawke13> Haz anyone every used Hyrule Magic in WINE? (HMAGIC.EXE)
[22:58] <Trizicus> jrib: Well besides the fact that mozilla doesn't endorse 64-bit firefox....
[22:58] <kubuntuser> need_help: next question, does the daemon run as a user with access to the folder that is the new root?
[22:58] <alexgee> jrib: anyway it worked, thanks :)
[22:58] <losha> dj_: which program are you referring to? unrar should be in the repos...
[22:58] <jugglerbry> hassanakevazir: yup, thats what i thought.  i'll try reinstalling karmic just in case and see what happens, if i dont get any luck, i'll try 9.04 again
[22:58] <jrib> Trizicus: I mean for you to file bugs on the plugin
[22:58] <sburwood> hello, everyone
[22:58]  * raid0 krivome pisw apo to daxtilo mou
[22:58] <kubuntuser> !hi | sburwood
[22:58] <jugglerbry> hassanakevazir: thanks anyway :)
[22:58] <remoteCTRL1> waht has actually become of gnome-volume-control?
[22:59] <hassanakevazir> jugglerbry, np
[22:59] <woble> dj_ read this:  http://www.techsono.com/faq/rar.html
[22:59] <need_help> kubuntuser no but the directiry /media/kad have an other permission rwx
[22:59] <remoteCTRL1> can anyone tell me what audio mixer to use pls?
[22:59] <Trizicus> jrib: Well I wouldn't think that I should file a bug for 64 bit plugins that are used in 64 bit firefox when mozilla doesn't advise using a 64 bit version of firefox
[22:59] <sburwood> I have been looking for answers to the following question, without finding an answer (including, but not limited to Google)
[22:59] <Skillen> Hi, I've clean installed Ubuntu 9.10 and when I boot from the GRUB screen I immediately get a blank screen with a flashing cursor at the top left and that's all. I can boot to recovery mode (though it seems to hang a bit during load) and I can type startx and get to a desktop. Though the desktop again hangs a bit and eventually freezes altogether. Do you think this is an issue with the GRUB loader or can anyone suggest anythi
[22:59] <kubuntuser> need_help: then I am not sure what the problem is. I use proftpd :-(
[23:00] <woble> remoteCTRL1, try ALSA it works the best atm with karmic
[23:00] <jrib> Trizicus: then see if the performance issue exists with another browser I suppose.
[23:00] <need_help> kubuntuser it's ok :)
[23:00] <sburwood> what can I do to make 9.10 (Koala) work on my computer without the problem ... initrd too big
[23:00] <Trizicus> jrib: I'm using 32 bit java atm w/ 32 bit plugins and performance is fine
[23:00] <Trizicus> jrib: and 32 bit firefox
[23:00] <woble> sburwood, whats the error?
[23:01] <woble> sburwood, best way to install is a fresh install
[23:01] <hassanakevazir> Skillen, dmesg showing any errors?
[23:01] <jrib> Trizicus: that doesn't really say whether the issue is with firefox or, as is more likely, with the plug-in
[23:01] <Trizicus> jrib: So then Ubuntu is arch dependant?
[23:01] <remoteCTRL1> woble: erm... i dindt want to exchangethe whole sound system, its just that i cant find any sound controls...
[23:01] <woble> remoteCTRL1, using ALSO or Pulse atm?
[23:01] <Rockj> Can anyone please tell me they have a fix for the SLOW grub-menu?
[23:01] <jrib> Trizicus: apt can't handle installing different architectures if that's your question
[23:01] <losha> sburwood: is it a custom kernel?
[23:01] <Rockj> Takes 30sec++ to just list my boot alternatives which is kinda crazy.
[23:02] <Trizicus> jrib: So then why isn't RPM used?
[23:02] <sburwood> I did a clean install, though I have one partition that I don't modify (I have bought a hard drive to either recover the info from the partition or to replace it)
[23:02] <sburwood> custom?
[23:02] <jrib> Trizicus: because ubuntu uses APT...
[23:02] <lstarnes> Trizicus: because it's derived from debian, which uses apt/dpkg
[23:02] <remoteCTRL1> woble: i dunno the dialog that used to be there is gone and i cant seem to find it
[23:02] <Skillen> hassanakevazir: Not tried that, i'm quite new to Linux. I've been using 9.04 for a couple of moths but not had any issues. I tried the repair broken packages option and that reports no issues.I should also say that the 9.10 Live CD boots fine and is stable.
[23:02] <sburwood> You see, I have a 120 GB hard drive in IDE
[23:02] <Y-Seti> 9.04 Isnt supported anymore, I had ubuntu-desktop removed, and this cant seem to be put back?
[23:02] <LordHawke13> I need help with WINE. Hyrule Magic doesn't want to work. I get ~$ wine: cannot find '/home/lordhawke13/Desktop/HMAGIC.EXE'
[23:03] <frogzoo> any ideas why kermit takes about 3 seconds to start?
[23:03] <chaukar> How to use separate x-screen (Nvidia) in Ubuntu. Now I have two independent desktops, but how to switch from screen 1 to screen 2?
[23:03] <jrib> Y-Seti: 9.04 IS supported
[23:03] <woble> remoteCTRL1, run pavucontrol
[23:03] <Trizicus> jrib: I realize that Ubuntu is derived from Debian. However architectures change, so you would assume that APT would support more than one arch.
[23:03] <sburwood> 50 GB, I want to save - until I know what to do with it
[23:03] <remoteCTRL1> woble: gnome-volume-control is gone even in the repository and system/preferences/sound is not what it used to be*g*
[23:03] <losha> sburwood: the only time I've seen 'initrd too big' is when people have build their own kernels. Apparently you haven't done that. Something unusual about your hardware?
[23:03] <jrib> Trizicus: of course it would be nice.  Unfortunately, no one has written it
[23:03] <Y-Seti> so tell my why apt-get install ubuntu-desktop isnt working anymore, it comes up as a broken package
[23:03] <ZykoticK9> Songbird opens from being minimized (and not highlighted) when switching artists?  I'm running Karmic using Songbird from PPA (see http://paste.ubuntu.com/308917/ for my "apt-cache policy songbird")  I do have compiz enabled.
[23:03] <sburwood> I don't think so, losha
[23:04] <remoteCTRL1> woble: i be your pardon?
[23:04] <dj_> losha:Extracting .rar files : Keep broken files unrar x -kb filename.part1.rar
[23:04] <losha> dj_: yes. How's that workling for you?
[23:04] <sburwood> I have noticed that 7.04, 8.04, and 9.04 don't like my computer while 7.10 and 8.10 worked fine
[23:04] <woble> remoteCTRL1, pavucontrol is pulseaudio volume control (you can control volume per app basis)
[23:04] <dj_> losha : its running
[23:04] <lmentop> devD: 64, if you have troubles you can install the 32-bit libs...
[23:05] <Skillen> So I'm guessing I run dmesg from the command prompt? What does it do, is it the broken package tool or something else?
[23:05] <elmagic> hi anybody know how can i split 1 iso file-(image) into 2 pices? so i wana split that iso image into 2 or more files and join it later??
[23:05] <sburwood> Intel P4 at 2.4G, 1G RAM, video card AGP
[23:05] <Sir_Konrad> ok guys see ya
[23:05] <losha> sburwood: something odd about your hardware I'm guessing. Out of my depth at this point, sorry....
[23:05] <lstarnes> Skillen: yes.  it's the system message viewer
[23:05] <sburwood> single core
[23:05] <remoteCTRL1> woble: /me < apt-get installing pavucontrol
[23:05] <sburwood> losha, old stuff, you see
[23:05] <dj_> hey michaael we love your michael
[23:06] <brendan-> anyone know if its possible to configure the windows start button for the KDE menu?
[23:06] <brendan-> or gnome for that matter
[23:06] <losha> elmagic: see the 'split' command. man split...
[23:06] <woble> brendan, windows gnome and KDE are 3 completely different things :P
[23:06] <Skillen> OK, I'll go and have a look. Thanks guys, I'll probably be back in a bit.
[23:06] <remoteCTRL1> woble: k, that ones also nice but still i am missing a stoopid pcm, etc fader
[23:07] <brendan-> i know
[23:07] <elmagic> losha: do you know command for splitting iso image into 2 or more files?
[23:07] <brendan-> i wanna know if i can map that button to display the kde/gnome menu
[23:07] <tc111> brendan-: for gnome, right-click -> edit menus
[23:07] <nukasl> has anyone heard of a clicking noise being a problem with 9.10?
[23:07] <tormod> elmagic, split ?
[23:07] <losha> elmagic: what is the exact size of the iso file?
[23:07] <brendan-> what i wanna do is map the windows button on my laptop keyboard to display the menu
[23:08] <tc111> nukasl: more info?
[23:08] <jugglerbry> **thinks brendan means the Windows button on the keyboard**
[23:08] <elmagic> losha: 675mb
[23:08] <xt28> nukasl: you mean hard-disk clicking?
[23:08] <hassanakevazir> Skillen, from command line: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit dmesg" and copy the URL here
[23:08] <mauri1> brendan it is possible you need to define the a shortcut key
[23:08] <penthief> !language | jugglerbry
[23:08] <Skillen> OK.
[23:08] <woble> brendan- set desktop shortcuts, System -> Preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[23:08] <mauri1> /brendan http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/use-the-windows-key-for-the-start-menu-in-ubuntu-linux/
[23:08]  * tc111 ** possibly... Super-L?
[23:08] <jugglerbry> penthief ?  what language ?
[23:08] <Skillen> Thanks...
[23:08] <nukasl> so, it's like a repeating clicking noise... kinda staticy. not hard drive, sounds like its coming from my laptop speakers inspite of others being plugged in  tc111 xt28
[23:08] <mauri1> oops, failed
[23:08] <sparc_> Hmm, I didn't see an option in the Karmic Koala installer to make raid volumes
[23:09] <sparc_> Is that supported?
[23:09] <remoteCTRL1> why would gnome-volume-control all of a sudden be gone?
[23:09] <sparc_> especially I'd like to put / on a raid1
[23:09] <nukasl> tc111 xt28 repeating, highly annoying. it may go away when i play music but then starts again when that stops.
[23:09] <tormod> jugglerbry, you said the W word :)
[23:09] <losha> elmagic: something like: split --bytes=333MB --verbose file.iso
[23:09] <tc111> nukasl: is your 'mic' muted?
[23:09] <need_help> kubuntuser on proftpd, can i use it for read only! can i restrict user to upload or remove any file ?
[23:10] <iceroot> losha: thx for the tip, grip is running very very fine, much better then cdex on windows :)
[23:10] <nukasl> tc111 how do i do that?
[23:10] <elmagic> losha: i will try now
[23:10] <jugglerbry> tormod : oops - sorry all.  no offence meant
[23:10] <DanaG> http://splitted-desktop.com/~gbeauchesne/xvba-video/
[23:10] <DanaG> nice.
[23:10] <tormod> jugglerbry, I was just kidding
[23:10] <hassanakevazir> sigh ...
[23:10] <nukasl> tc111 i just installed 9.10 about an hour ago... it was a problem present even during install. fwiw.
[23:10] <losha> elmagic: oops, change my mind about the size. 675/2 = 337.5, so: split --bytes=340MB --verbose file.iso
[23:10] <jugglerbry> tormod:kinda makes sense though.  was the only word i can see that i wrote they could have meant, lol
[23:10] <losha> iceroot: very cool
[23:11] <elmagic> losha: it is creating file xaa
[23:11] <tc111> nukasl: click on speaker icon and choose 'volume control'
[23:11] <tc111> nukasl: desktop, notebook, netbook? sound card chipset?
[23:11] <losha> elmagic: to reassemble, just do: cat xaa xab .... > new.iso
[23:12] <elmagic> losha: you rock it created 1 xaa and 1 xab file TYVM
[23:12] <Trizicus> What would be best way to image a linux partition?
[23:12] <nukasl> tc111 notebook hp pavillion dv6000 amd turion 64 x2. don't know about my sound card...
[23:12] <elmagic> and one xac file
[23:12] <elmagic> smaller one :)
[23:12] <xt28> Trizicus: dd if=/path/to/device of=image bs=10M (or so?)
[23:13] <losha> elmagic: adjust the --bytes=340MB larger to get fewer pieces...
[23:13] <devD> how to get 64 bit ubuntu, i have downloaded 32 bit live cd
[23:13] <Trizicus> xt28: so dd will make an image that I can apply to another hdd?
[23:13] <sabat> the ubuntu keyboard shortcuts menu never really works right for me, I can't get it to accept new keybinds
[23:13] <elmagic> tnx losha
[23:13] <jrib> devD: download ubuntu amd64
[23:13] <elmagic> what is command to bring back files?
[23:13] <crazysail> does anyone have experience with 8.04? especially compiz? Whenever effects are activated my mouse ceases to click
[23:13] <nukasl> tc111 muted mic turned sound themes off no luck.
[23:14] <losha> elmagic: to reassemble, just do: cat xaa xab .... > new.iso
[23:14] <xt28> Trizicus: yes, if the other hard disk has a partition of the same size
[23:14] <elmagic> great and simple TNX ;)
[23:14] <devD> jrib, but i have intel processor
[23:14] <jrib> devD: that's fine, "amd64" is just the name of the architecture
[23:14] <devD> ok
[23:14] <tc111> nukasl: sound card chipset should be a crystal sound 4xxx, muting just the mic should disable other sounds... curious
[23:15] <devD> jrib, thanks
[23:15] <losha> elmagic: last tip; check to make sure the new iso is identical to the original i.e. cmp old.iso new.iso
[23:15] <crazysail> ﻿does anyone have experience with 8.04? especially compiz? Whenever effects are activated my mouse ceases to click
[23:15] <ikonia> crazysail: does anything else work, such as keyboard short cuts ?
[23:16] <jugglerbry> devD: on download ubuntu web  page, there's an option for other download options. 64bit is in there
[23:16] <Trizicus> xt28: Do you need to unmount the drive you're imaging? Also can you image to a file?
[23:16] <sabat> crazysail it sounds to me like compiz has "swallowed" you mouse click binding
[23:16] <tc111> nukasl: what does 'sudo lspci -vnn | grep audio -i' return from a console?
[23:16] <crazysail> yes, keyboard can also be used to navigate
[23:16] <elmagic> losha: ok i will check whit i.e. cmp old.iso new.iso when i will bring back iso to orginal state
[23:16] <crazysail> sabat: what could i do to fix that?
[23:16] <ikonia> crazysail: not the bug I'm thinking of then
[23:17] <sabat> check the keybinds in compiz
[23:17] <xt28> Trizicus: yes (i think so) and yes (definitely)
[23:17] <sabat> somewhere in compiz you have mouseclick bound to something
[23:17] <ikonia> crazysail: if you disable desktop effects, I assume the mouse is fine ?
[23:17] <crazysail> sabat: ill try that
[23:17] <sabat> try ccsm
[23:17] <crazysail> ikonia: when disabled there are no problems at all
[23:17] <nukasl> tc111 how do i copy text using xchat?
[23:17] <lstarnes> nukasl: highlight then ctrl+c
[23:17] <xt28> Trizicus: you are trying to make an exact duplicate of the partition, right?
[23:18] <elmagic> losha: tnx you rock,cya :D
[23:18] <Trizicus> xt28: yes
[23:18] <nukasl> thanks, tried to right click
[23:18] <tc111> nukasl: sorry, don't use xchat...
[23:18] <xt28> Trizicus: then dd is your tool. check man dd.
[23:18] <need_help> kubuntuser i install proftpd! when i log give me permission denied i change default root to /home and the same why! thx
[23:18] <ctmjr> nukasl, highlite shift key also works
[23:18] <Trizicus> xt28: Ok, thank you
[23:18] <nukasl> tc111 00:10.1 Audio device [0403]: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio [10de:026c] (rev a2)
[23:19] <nukasl> thanks ctmjr
[23:19] <jugglerbry> nukasl: i just highlighted the text, then pressed CTRL +C for copy, then CTRL +V for paste
[23:20] <xt28> Trizicus: you're welcome. one word of caution: make sure you never confuse "if" (input) and "of" (output). dd will not ask before overwriting existing data.
[23:20] <tc111> nukasl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/381721
[23:20] <gkf> hi
[23:20] <gkf> hello
[23:20] <Trizicus> xt28: input being the source drive, and output being target drive?
[23:21] <gkf> im new to ubuntu just installed
[23:21] <rictec> hi anyone knows why sound in 9.10 is so low volume?
[23:21] <xt28> Trizicus: exactly.
[23:21] <Trizicus> xt28: Thanks again
[23:21] <ezzieyguywuf> I've changed my root password but my gnome-keyring password did not change. how can I reset this password?
[23:21] <crazysail> thanks, had button 1 set as drag and drop, now everything works and i can light my hw on fire again :)
[23:21] <NathanL> Hello there
[23:22] <xt28> Trizicus: i'm glad to help.
[23:22] <zechs> hello everyone
[23:22] <gkf> after i install it and login i get only black screen and mouse cursor, but in test ubuntu mode everything is fine, what to do please?
[23:22] <ktzkk> sudo apt-mirror
[23:22] <nukasl> tc111 is there a resolution to those problems? or are those just complaints with no resolution yet?
[23:22] <artis2kewl> how do I boot into an existing windows installation while in ubuntu 9.10
[23:22] <ktzkk> apt-mirror is already running, exiting at /usr/bin/apt-mirror line 187.
[23:22] <ktzkk> what does it mean?
[23:22] <zechs> does anyone know, why I can't log in unless I use Xterm?
[23:23] <Trizicus> xt28: Glad to be helped :D. Also lets say that I do dd my drive, on that new hard drive I need to install grub to the MBR to be able to boot from that partition correct?
[23:23] <ktzkk> and what should i do?
[23:23] <ikonia> zechs: can't login unless you use xterm ??? you don't login to xterm, could you explain what you mean please
[23:23] <Trizicus> xt28: Assuming I install that HDD into another computer**
[23:23] <zechs> ok
[23:24] <zechs> well, when I start up I go to that log in screen, and I select my username and type in my password. every single time it would reset that screen
[23:24] <zechs> so i looked around adn saw three drop down boxes at the bottom
[23:24] <zechs> one was for language, one had to do with the keyboard
[23:24] <tc111> nukasl: regression bug... status is currently 'new' and 'undecided'. be sure to click the 'does this bug affect you?' link so devs track the numbers
[23:24] <zechs> and one had xfce session listed twice and xterm as the third option
[23:25] <ikonia> zechs: so you're using xubuntu ?
[23:25] <zechs> yeah
[23:25] <nukasl> thanks tc111
[23:25] <ikonia> zechs: what username are you trying ?
[23:25] <subone> Can anyone help me getting my DVD burner working? I have two and have been unable to burn a dvd successfully on ubuntu or windows.
[23:25] <Q_Continuum> With 9.10 for whatever reason it takes forever to do a DNS lookup when I click a link, even when its the same domain as the page I'm on now.  ("looking up XYZ.TLD...")
[23:25] <zechs> I only have the one I made when my friend installed this
[23:25] <artis2kewl> please help.....how do I boot into winXP on a diff partition fromwithin ubuntu 9.10
[23:25] <ikonia> Q_Continuum: check your dns server config in the client
[23:25] <Haitham> Heya, How can I open/forward ports?
[23:26] <ikonia> !ics > Haitham
[23:26] <ikonia> Haitham: it's normally a router option
[23:26] <SignalX64> hell guys, I have a quick question
[23:26] <kexman> can anyone help me with a NO NET problem ? my adapters dont show up with this new kernel
[23:26] <kexman> i upgraded to 9.10
[23:26] <xt28> Trizicus: i see (at least) two ways of doing this: you could duplicate the whole hard drive ("if=/dev/sdX" or whatever) including the MBR or you could duplicate the partition ("if=/dev/sdXn" or so) after creating a partition of the exact same size on the new hd. in this case you would need to install a boot loader to the MBR.
[23:26] <nwillems_> Hello guys, how can I change my display name on IRC? I guess it is something  with /...
[23:26] <SignalX64> does anyone know how can I set the framebuffer in order to look like this one ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toVBCfb2728
[23:26] <Haitham> But I don't have a router - Ubuntu OS doesn't have any built-in Firewalls or smth?
[23:26] <SignalX64> see the video please
[23:26] <lstarnes> nwillems_: /nick new-nickname
[23:26] <ikonia> zechs: when you select "xterm" does it ask for a username, or just log you straight in
[23:26] <xt28> nwillems_: /nick new_new
[23:27] <ikonia> Haitham: how do you connect to the internet without a router/modem ?
[23:27] <zechs> it logs me straight in
[23:27] <Q_Continuum> ikonia, its a fresh install - defaults (unless you're referring to the DHCP handout, which seems to function just fine on this PC with 9.04, and all my other PCs in the house)
[23:27] <nwillems> thank you guys
[23:27] <SignalX64> basically I wanna it to look like ubuntu server
[23:27] <ikonia> nwillems: join #freenode for irc help
[23:27] <lstarnes> Haitham: ubuntu does have ufw and iptables, built in, but they have no rules set by default, which means they default to allowing everything
[23:27] <zechs> and from that, I had to type xfce4-session so that I have a display
[23:27] <jaivcaba> HELOO SOMEONE COULD HELP ME PLEASE, IT'S ABOUT INSTALL A BROADCOM WIRELESS
[23:27] <ikonia> Q_Continuum: which/who's dns servers are you using
[23:27] <zechs> and here I am lol
[23:27] <Trizicus> xt28: Hm, I presume I get it. I'm so used to imaging on Windows and not so much as on Linux. Thanks though :)
[23:27] <ikonia> jaivcaba: please don't use caps
[23:27] <Haitham> Hmm, I think it's my Livebox causing this.
[23:27] <nwillems> ikonia: thank you didn't know about the frenode "room"
[23:27] <jaivcaba> ok
[23:27] <SignalX64> right now my framebuffer is setted to 1024x768 and it look so messy lol
[23:28] <btakita> Hello! We have Mac Pros at work. I often have issues dual booting them due to grub issues. Iteration is slow because the reinstall is slow. What are some tricks people do to speed this process up?
[23:28] <anao> do anyone knows to add xft fonts config to /etc/jwm/jwmrc
[23:28] <Q_Continuum> ikonia, Qwest Residential DSL.
[23:28] <ikonia> zechs: ok - ~I think (just a guess) what's happening is that your username and password is wrong and when you login using "xterm" it's actually a failsafe session
[23:28] <SignalX64> no idea ? :(
[23:28] <hellyes> can anyone help me? Though I can see my Windows 7 shared drive on the network, from ubuntu, I cannot access the folder.  I keep getting an error: "unable to mount.........failed to retrieve share files from server". My windows and ubuntu firewalls are off. Does anybody have any ideas?
[23:28] <ikonia> zechs: when you login via xterm type "id" and show me the results
[23:28] <Q_Continuum> ikonia, I don't play with DNS, I let the ISP manage it unless they fail at life.  (They haven't yet, other than redirecting non-existing domains)
[23:28] <ikonia> Q_Continuum: type "nslookup" and try a few domains - see how quick they respond
[23:28] <boscop> ubuntu is pretty slow for me. I'm considering to change the distro to something faster. what is the next fast distro that is user friendly?
[23:29] <ikonia> boscop: fast distro is nonsese, it's all subjective, and offtopic for this room
[23:29] <dli> how do I disable pulseaudio and use alsa alone?
[23:29] <ikonia> boscop: the most common cause for a "slow" distro is the incorrect Xorg graphiccs config/drivers
[23:29] <jaivcaba> heloo i need install mi wriless in ubuntu 9.10, but ndiswrapper don't recognize the harware
[23:29] <SignalX64> boscop : maybe u want to recompile the server in order to include what u need and to make it faster
[23:29] <jaivcaba> could someone help me
[23:29] <zechs> ikonia: alright. I could just open up a new terminal and do it correct?
[23:29] <ikonia> zechs: sure
[23:29] <rictec> boscop,  fast doing what?
[23:29] <boscop> ikonia: I thought this was a reason. but how do I know which ones are right and which are wrong?
[23:30] <losha> boscop: but try a different desktop before changing distros. xfce is said to be comparatively more responsive than e.g. gnome or kde
[23:30] <NightHawk877> I need help with my grub 2 upgrade. I chainloaded into GRUB2, but don't know where to go from there
[23:30] <ikonia> boscop: what video card do you have ?
[23:30] <xt28> Trizicus: sure thing. are you going to try this right away? (in this case i might stay online for a couple more minutes...)
[23:30] <boscop> rictec: fast starting apps, GUI reacting to key presses and mouse clicks, etc, lower cpu usage
[23:30] <JoshuaP0x1> how do i stop/start samba service?
[23:30] <boscop> losha: I already have xfce!!
[23:30] <xt28> jaivcaba: what hardware is that?
[23:30] <zechs> ikonia: i guess this is what you were looking for
[23:30] <zechs> jose@shadowloo:~$ id
[23:30] <zechs> uid=1000(jose) gid=1000(jose) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),118(admin),119(sambashare),1000(jose)
[23:30] <Trizicus> xt28: I'm currently at work, lol. I'll most likely do this tomorrow or so
[23:31] <ikonia> zechs: ok - lets try a test
[23:31] <rictec> boscop,  that depends on cpu, graphics card and memory
[23:31] <JoshuaP0x1> I installed 9.10 and now my shares can not be seen by my XP box
[23:31] <ikonia> zechs: from that prompt type "passwd joe"
[23:31] <boscop> ikonia: how do I find out?
[23:31] <SignalX64> /etc/init.d/samab stop
[23:31] <ikonia> zechs: it will ask you for a password, type in the password you want to use
[23:31] <Haitham> Mm, I looked in my Router's admin page, can't find any tool to Open ports - there is this "From to" port forwarding, but thing I'm trying to do requires specific Port.
[23:31] <boscop> ikonia: lspci | grep VGA yields "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)"
[23:31] <ikonia> boscop: ok, so an intel card,
[23:31] <hellyes> can anyone help me? Though I can see my Windows 7 shared drive on the network, from ubuntu, I cannot access the folder.  I keep getting an error: "unable to mount.........failed to retrieve share files from server". My windows and ubuntu firewalls are off. Does anybody have any ideas?
[23:31] <boscop> rictec: my graphics card has 32 MB
[23:32] <ainga> hi
[23:32] <boscop> rictec: that's what I know
[23:32] <subone> JoshuaP0x1: have you installed samba?
[23:32] <losha> boscop: well, it's off-topic to ask which distro is faster, but on-topic to try and speed up your existing ubuntu system....
[23:32] <ikonia> hellyes: contact your router vendor for support
[23:32] <xt28> Trizicus: all right. i hope it all goes well.
[23:32] <Haitham> Anyways, I'm trying to patch AcceptEx to Wine.
[23:32] <zechs> ikonia: I changed my password successfully
[23:32] <jaivcaba> necesito ayuda para instalar mi wireless en ubuntu
[23:32] <boscop> losha: that's what I want!
[23:32] <Trizicus> xt28: thank ya
[23:32] <ikonia> zechs: ok - now trying logging into the desktop normally
[23:32] <thegreyspot> Whats the best way to mount a FTP server?
[23:32] <jaivcaba> hola
[23:32] <rictec> boscop, with that info you must get less hungry apps and kernel
[23:32] <ikonia> zechs: with your new password of course
[23:32] <hvgotcodes> when i install java is the installer supposed to setup jdk_home and java_home?
[23:33] <boscop> losha: but it seems to be at its limits
[23:33] <Haitham> But just can't, when it comes to "patch" command, it stucks, I think it's because of the Ports thing.
[23:33] <jaivcaba> alguien hbala español
[23:33] <JoshuaP0x1> subone: I installed it in 9.04
[23:33] <ikonia> rictec: please don't talk without understanding the problem
[23:33] <Haitham> Any ideas?
[23:33] <zechs> alright. I'll be right back
[23:33] <ikonia> !es > jaivcaba
[23:33] <bardo> wer spricht denn von euch deutsch?
[23:33] <t0rc> !es > t0rc
[23:33] <losha> boscop: I sympathize, buy I'm not the guy to help you...
[23:33] <ikonia> !de > bardo
[23:33] <JoshuaP0x1> subone: i am having trouble with setting the permissions
[23:33] <pmitros> Does anyone know if UNR differs in any way in performance/system requirements from Ubuntu mainstream, or is the only difference the addition of the few extra packages (go-home-applet, human-netbook-theme, etc.)?
[23:33] <BattlePope> I have put 9.10 on a USB drive, then boot from it. I select a language, but when I try to 'try ubuntu' or 'install ubuntu' or 'check disk for defects' it freezes. Can anyone help?
[23:33] <thegreyspot> bardo ich :)
[23:33] <NightHawk877> Can anyone help me upgrade to grub 2. I've already chainloaded into it from  GRUB 1.5. I have no idea where to go next
[23:33] <JoshuaP0x1> subone: I'm not getting prompted for a U/P
[23:33] <subone> JoshuaP0x1: do you use nautilus?
[23:34] <JoshuaP0x1> subone: what is that?
[23:34] <bardo> :)
[23:34] <rictec> ikonia, dont tell me how do you think i will know whtat is the problem do you know?
[23:34] <pmitros> I'm installing on a desktop, but would prefer something lighter-weight than Ubuntu mainstream. I was thinking of taking UNR, and uninstalling maximus and the other netbook-specific things.
[23:34] <boscop> rictec: other apps? like links instead of firefox?
[23:34] <xt28> bardo: i believe there is #ubuntu-de
[23:34] <boscop> rictec: what other kernel?
[23:34] <tc111> !ge > bardo
[23:34] <bardo> thank you
[23:34] <subone> JoshuaP0x1: Nautilus the file manager, you can install a nautilus-samba package i believe to make it easy to share fils
[23:34] <ikonia> rictec: you ask questions to find out the most likley cause, blidnly telling him to use less hungry apps and a less hungry kenrel is not helpful
[23:34] <JoshuaP0x1> subone: I like easy.
[23:34] <rictec> boscop, not that much i think but not gmone
[23:35] <BattlePope> I have put 9.10 on a USB drive, then boot from it. I select a language, but when I try to 'try ubuntu' or 'install ubuntu' or 'check disk for defects' it freezes. Can anyone help?
[23:35]  * NightHawk877 can't boot into ubuntu on his desktop until someone helps him with the grub 2 upgrade
[23:35] <JoshuaP0x1> subone: it's installed already
[23:35] <ikonia> boscop: a simple test is to do something cpu/memeory intensive and see how your machine responds, find out if it is resources slow, or just visual desktop that's slow
[23:35] <lmentop_> pmitros: why not xubuntu?
[23:35] <Jordan_U> NightHawk877: What problem are you having exactly?
[23:35] <rictec> ikonia, ah i see so you metod is better then
[23:35] <JoshuaP0x1> subone: where do i access it?
[23:35] <zechs> Ikonia: well, I was able to log in properly now! thank you! if you don't mind though, I have two more questions
[23:35] <JoshuaP0x1> subone: how do i use it?
[23:35] <subone> JoshuaP0x1: ok then go to the folder or file you want shared, right click, then go to properties, hit the share tab
[23:35] <ikonia> rictec: well, it's not blindly telling people to change kernels
[23:35] <ikonia> zechs: sure
[23:35] <myk_robinson> Hey. I just replaced my 19" widescreen monitor with a 22" widescreen that is capable of 1680*1050. My video card is an nVidia FX5200. How can I get the proper resolution to my new monitor? nVidia settings is not allowing me to go past 1280*1024 for some reason
[23:35] <zechs> I did search in the tech help area on the site for xubuntu but couldn't find an answer
[23:35] <NightHawk877> Jordan, I get an error stating that the kernel cannot load
[23:35] <jugglerbry> ok, time for bed me thinks.  thanks all, bye for now
[23:35] <pmitros> lmentop: Haven't heard of it. Googling now.
[23:36] <JoshuaP0x1> subone: I did that. That's where i'm having issues
[23:36] <hassanakevazir> How do I make xchat stop forgetting my favourite channels and my settings ?
[23:36] <maurer_> Does anyone else have issues with flash not being able to use mouse clicks?
[23:36] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | NightHawk877
[23:36] <ikonia> zechs: if I know the answer, I'll tell you
[23:36] <rictec> ikonia, i m not blundly telling anything you are
[23:36] <dooglus> how do I enable circular scrolling on my touchpad using xfce4?
[23:36] <ikonia> rictec: you've just told him to use less hungry apps and try a different kernel
[23:36] <vigo> BattlePope: Is it an Install image or a boot . net work install image?
[23:36] <klabezo> hi ubuntu lovers how are you all
[23:36] <zechs> one is that my display is being forced to show in 800 X 600
[23:36] <lmentop_> pmitros: its a lighter version of ubuntu and has lower minimum recommended specs
[23:36] <dooglus> maurer_: 64bit?
[23:36] <subone> JoshuaP0x1: one second
[23:37] <zechs> the other is that I now Have no audio
[23:37] <maurer_> dooglus: Yes.
[23:37] <rictec> ikonia,  whatever ok
[23:37] <JoshuaP0x1> subone: when I go to permissions of the folder, I see it says owner with folder access set to create and delete files
[23:37] <dooglus> maurer_: I do.  I run a 32bit kernel because of it
[23:37] <BattlePope> vigo: It is a 64bit install ISO made bootable on USB by the USB Disc Creator thingie on another Ubuntu installation.
[23:37] <JoshuaP0x1> subone: I can't change the rest
[23:37] <JoshuaP0x1> subone: it wont take
[23:37] <dooglus> maurer_: it never happens in the i86 kernel
[23:37] <ikonia> zechs: graphics, what video card do you actually have ?
[23:37] <boscop> ikonia: the cpu is very high, even in idle state it's 60%+
[23:37] <jaivcaba> could someone help me
[23:37] <Jordan_U> btakita: What grub issues were you having exactly? You can re-install grub without re-installing Ubuntu
[23:37] <pmitros> lmentop: I'm not sure if I want to switch Gnome->xfce. Ubuntu does a lot of development to make Gnome useful and well integrated.
[23:38] <ikonia> boscop: interesting, not what I was expecting
[23:38] <subone> JoshuaP0x1: one sec i think i had to make some config file changes
[23:38] <dooglus> maurer_: I dual boot - one partition is 32bit, one is 64bit, so I can check occasionally whether flash is working in 64bit, but it usually isn't.  occasionally it's fine
[23:38] <bjsnider> myk_robinson, because your monitor is supplying an incorrect/broken EDID
[23:38] <klabezo> i want to know why i can't show the .dat video files from a vcd ?
[23:38] <rictec> ikonia, please a solve it please
[23:38] <myk_robinson> bjsnider: how can I correct this?
[23:38] <Dooms_day> i FINALY figured out how to configure damn GRUB
[23:38] <ikonia> rictec: I'm certainly trying
[23:38] <maurer_> dooglus: Not really an option for me, as I regularly use over 4GB RAM
[23:38] <zechs> ha, I've only had Ubuntu for a month so bare with me. how do I check that?
[23:38] <pmitros> lmentop: All the nice things like wireless just working are parts of the Gnome panel...
[23:38] <boscop> ikonia: on windows xp in that same laptop, I often only have 3% in idle state
[23:38] <ikonia> boscop: what tool are you using to get the cpu usage
[23:38] <dooglus> maurer_: I use a non-standard kernel to work around that
[23:38] <rictec> ikonia, i was too now i m debating with you
[23:39] <ikonia> boscop: %60 is high, no question
[23:39] <bjsnider> myk_robinson, put the monitor's vertrefresh/horizsync values, the correct ones, into the xorg.conf file manually
[23:39] <boscop> ikonia: gnome-system-monitor
[23:39] <Trizicus> In Ubuntu the .desktop file how do I specify the icon?
[23:39] <Brova> can anyone recommend a good audio player with a great equalizer, i have VLC installed but it wont remember my audio settings.
[23:39] <ikonia> zechs: lspci
[23:39] <NightHawk877> The grub 2 wiki does nothing to help me. Bootloaders are a part of linux I have never touched before
[23:39] <vigo> BattlePope: I would try a new Image. One that is made for that type of install.
[23:39] <losha> klabezo: I haven't watched a vcd in years, but I used to play them with mplayer....
[23:39] <Xcell> boscop-  htop  and see whats eating it up
[23:39] <Skillen> Ok, i'm back. I had a bit of trouble, pastebinit couldn't write so I dumped it to a text file. When I booted to desktop it wouldn't mount any drives or network folder or usb. Seems to be a problem with my website as well so I've got no where to put the txt file. Can I send it through this?
[23:39] <ikonia> boscop: do you know how to open a terminal ?
[23:39] <Jordan_U> maurer_: You can use the PAE kernel for 4+gig of ram on 32 bit
[23:39] <Dooms_day> does anyone know if ubuntu netbook remix has any other desktop modes?
[23:39] <mrfree> hi all
[23:39] <boscop> ikonia: yes. should I run top?
[23:39] <Amigadude> anyone using 9.10 netbook remix spotted graphical glitches?
[23:40] <subone> JoshuaP0x1: it looks like i added 'socket options = TCP_NODELAY' to smb.conf, which i think is a speed increase...
[23:40] <ikonia> boscop: first thing is move the xterm around a bit, does your cpu spike ?
[23:40] <Dooms_day> not really
[23:40] <mrfree> I've just installed 9.10 but it doesn't boot with "grub error2 in the stage2" ubuntu is on the /dev/sdb2 partition
[23:40] <maurer_> Jordan_U: Maybe I'm missing something, but I thought PAE just allowed process totals above 4 GB, not a single process using that much?
[23:40] <Sireorion_> what is option option-211 "tftp"
[23:40] <BattlePope> vigo: any ideas?
[23:40] <losha> Skillen: do *not* send lots of text to the main irc channel...
[23:40] <Dooms_day> i havent tried everything yet
[23:40] <rictec> Amigadude, on what netboot?
[23:40] <zechs> Intel Corporation 82845G/GL
[23:40] <Amigadude> just the layout of the menus is off
[23:40] <Dooms_day> does UNR have KDE built in or just gnome?
[23:40] <Sireorion_> what is option option-211 "tftp" in ltsp
[23:40] <myk_robinson> bjsnider: a little hand holding may be required :) can you point me to good documentation on doing this?
[23:40] <hassanakevazir> How do I make xchat stop forgetting my favourite channels and my settings ?
[23:40] <klabezo> yes losha but in my ubuntu system i have some msg said that the system can;t read from the disk but i can play them in other systems like windows XP
[23:40] <BattlePope> vigo: Thank you, I didn't see your comment above. Where can I find an image like that?
[23:40] <Amigadude> not driver glitches more theme errors
[23:40] <bjsnider> myk_robinson, just google it and you'll find lots of info
[23:40] <lmentop_> Dooms-day: just gnome, kde has their own netbook version
[23:40] <Jordan_U> maurer_: That's true, I came in late so I may have missed your exact requirements
[23:40] <Xcell> hassanakevazir-  network settings  edit
[23:41] <jhkjhk> hey guys, just installed ubuntu for the first time ever :) im a windows noob :(
[23:41] <vigo> BattlePope: Looking for it now,,one moment please.
[23:41] <NightHawk877> Can I install GRUb 2 from the LiveCD?
[23:41] <NathanL> Is anyone eles having problems with network manager, i can see my router and it just stays on connect and eventually says  " network disconnected "
[23:41] <Dooms_day> eh
[23:41] <btakita> Jordan_U: It seems stuck in Grub. The furthest I got was to a black screen that only said GRUB.
[23:41] <tc111> ikonia, rictec: better to recommend Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS or Xubuntu 8.04.3 or 9.10 than bicker... support is the point here, correct?
[23:41] <Skillen> losha: I won't I meant can I send someone the txt file?
[23:41] <Jordan_U> NightHawk877: Yes
[23:41] <boscop> ikonia: not much
[23:41] <Jordan_U> btakita: What version of Ubuntu?
[23:41] <rictec> tc111, that was what i was trying to say
[23:41] <ikonia> boscop: ok, so now check top as you suggested see what shows up as eating cpu
[23:41] <kexman> sudo modprobe -r b44 ssb ndiswrapper
[23:41] <kexman> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[23:41] <kexman> sudo modprobe b44
[23:41] <Amigadude> rictec: Aspire One
[23:41] <Xcell> ya.. xubuntu should do well for boscop
[23:41] <Sireorion_> somebody good on ltsp?
[23:41] <maurer_> Jordan_U: I'm basically just trying to get flash working without giving up 64-bit--I'm pretty sure it's not adobe's flash player because that was working previously and they didn't update it...
[23:41] <kexman> fix to broadcom net problem in 9.10
[23:41] <losha> Skillen: if someone wants it, I guess so. Pastebin would be best though. Please *don't* send it to me...
[23:41] <klabezo> yes losha but in my ubuntu system i have some msg said that the system can;t read from the disk but i can play them in other systems like windows XP
[23:41] <Dooms_day> UNR didnt set up grub correctly, so u have to boot in like backtrack or something and run grub-install
[23:41] <subone> JoshuaP0x1: hmm i dont see any other changes
[23:42] <boscop> ikonia: wait. I was looking at the wrong numbers. it's at 100% while moving!!
[23:42] <gkf> Sa jacys polacy
[23:42] <Dooms_day> then make ur own menu.lst cause it doesnt have one
[23:42] <ikonia> boscop: ahhh disapointing
[23:42] <gkf> ??
[23:42] <NathanL> Kexman was that directed too me?
[23:42] <ikonia> boscop: what cpu is in your machine ?
[23:42] <ctmjr> hassanakevazir, #xchat channel  might be able to help you
[23:42] <rictec> Amigadude, my is a 1000H
[23:42] <zechs> Ikonia: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL
[23:42] <boscop> Xcell: what else is different in xubuntu than what I have now (ubuntu with xfce)?
[23:42] <ikonia> zechs: another intel
[23:42] <BattlePope> vigo: sure :)
[23:42] <maurer_> Jordan_U: Also because Opera works properly, which makes me think that the flash is not at fault, but something in firefox?
[23:42] <btakita> Jordan_U: I'm using refit
[23:42] <ikonia> zechs: have you tried setting your desktop resolution with the display tool yet ?
[23:42] <Skillen> OK I've uploaded the text file to a hosting site. It's at http://www.datafilehost.com/download-c051021c.html
[23:42] <Sireorion_> plz help me with ltsp
[23:43] <suprkltz> Just joined
[23:43] <boscop> ikonia: how do I find this out?
[23:43] <zechs> yeah, but this was before when I was having my original issue. I was unable to see the mouse pointer
[23:43] <btakita> Jordan_U: 9.10 Using Grub2 I suppose
[23:43] <rictec> boscop, uses less system resources
[23:43] <Amigadude> rictec: just the text under the last item in the game section is cut in half, and runs over the container
[23:43] <ikonia> boscop: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[23:43] <ikonia> boscop: but check with top what process is hogging the cpu
[23:43] <dooglus> !info linux-generic-pae | maurer_
[23:43] <btakita> Jordan_U: Grub 1 doesn't seem to have this issue
[23:43] <rictec> Amigadude, i will fire up mine and see that a moment please
[23:43] <vigo> BattlePope: This may be the one,,https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USB Installation Media
[23:43] <jtan189> QUESTION: I just recently installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my Thinkpad T400 and I've been having problems with it automatically shutting down. My laptop has felt very hot during these times, so it could be due to overheating. Someone I talked to also mentioned scaling issues, since I have no overheating problems in Vista on the same computer doing much more intensive work. Any ideas?
[23:44] <zechs> Ikonia: yes, originally but I was unable to see my mouse pointer
[23:44] <boscop> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/d78e964a9
[23:44] <Jordan_U> NightHawk877: If you can boot currently then to finish the upgrade to grub 2 run "sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy" and be sure to select your drive by pressing space bar ***If you forget to select your drive your computer will fail to boot***
[23:44] <NathanL> Is anyone eles having problems with network manager, i can see my router and it just stays on connect and eventually says  " network disconnected " i'm on windows at the moment. any help is appreciated
[23:44] <Haitham> Why when I type "haitham@haitham-desktop:~/wine-git$ patch " it's always stuck? I opened the required port (for patching AcceptEX to Wine) .
[23:44] <ikonia> boscop: what does top show as the cpu hog ?
[23:44] <Dooms_day> whats the ideal flash drive size for a backtrack 4 install?
[23:44] <jrib> Haitham: erm, what did you think it would do?
[23:44] <lstarnes> Haitham: you need to load the patch file into patch.  use patch -p1 < file.diff
[23:44] <andre_> whats the fix for this insanely annoying ctrl+c issue? it doesn't work in the terminal
[23:45] <boscop> ikonia: firefox oscillates between 17% and 30% and then comes Xorg with 8%
[23:45] <Jordan_U> btakita: Try asking in #grub, you may also want to try out grub2 for EFI
[23:45] <Skillen> ikonia: pastebin reported that it couldn't write the file
[23:45] <ikonia> Skillen: pardon ?
[23:45] <Haitham> Aha..
[23:45] <NightHawk877> Jordan where do I do that  NightHawk877: If you can boot currently then to finish the upgrade to grub 2 run "sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy" and be sure to select your drive by pressing space bar ***If you forget to select your drive your computer will fail to boot***
[23:45] <Haitham> Thanks :)
[23:45] <Dooms_day> lol windowz people are too used to ctrl c as copy
[23:45] <ikonia> boscop: that doesn't = %100
[23:45] <ikonia> boscop: those are the biggest hogs ?
[23:45] <Trizicus> how do I change application icons on the desktop?
[23:45] <ctmjr> Dooms_day, no help for back-track here ask in #remote-exploit
[23:45] <NightHawk877> I can't boot into Ubuntu
[23:45] <boscop> ikonia: the 100% is only for when moving the xterm window!
[23:46] <Jordan_U> NightHawk877: Open a terminal from Applications > Accessories and enter that command there
[23:46] <Xcell> sounds like something is running that shouldnt be running
[23:46] <boscop> ikonia: yes, those and third is gnome-system-monitor
[23:46] <NightHawk877> from the liveCD?
[23:46] <Skillen> ikonia: Sorry you said I should use pastebinit but it said it couldn't write the file. Sorry I typed it wrong above.
[23:46] <ikonia> boscop: when you move the xterm window around what uses the resource in top ?
[23:46] <boscop> ikonia: then pulseaudio and xchat
[23:46] <BattlePope> vigo: isn't that for installing onto USB drives?
[23:46] <Joeseph> Whenever I start up Ubuntu, the startup sound is always jumpy.  I connect to some windows shares before I boot up, and I know that slows it down a bit.  How can I fix the jumpy startup sound?
[23:46] <ikonia> Skillen: I didn't say anything about pastebin
[23:46] <jtan189> i didn't have these automatic shutdown problems with ubuntu 8.10
[23:46] <zechs> ikonia: i changed it again and im going to restart because I didn't notice any immediate changes.
[23:46] <ikonia> boscop: ahhh, I'm wondering if it is redraw issues then
[23:46] <jtan189> skipped 9.04 to 9.10
[23:46] <kinks> I have connected a dvd drive to my computer via sata, and dmesg only seems to show "[   34.660807] ata5.00: ATAPI: PLDS    DG-16D2S, 74850C, max UDMA/100" with regard to it, how can I figure out what the device was mapped to? there's a /dev/sg2 but hdparm -i /dev/sg2 gives "invalid argument"
[23:46] <andre_> anyone know how to bring back the default functionality of ctrl+C in the terminal?
[23:46] <Jordan_U> NightHawk877: No, from the installed system. You can do it from the liveCD but it's more work
[23:46] <boscop> ikonia: Xorg!
[23:46] <ikonia> rather than actual resource issues
[23:47] <vigo> BattlePope: That is for installing FROM usb.
[23:47] <VCoolio> Trizicus: right click, properties then click the icon picture or drag and drop your icon on that from file manager
[23:47] <andre_> I can't live like this, its literally making me cry
[23:47] <btakita> Jordan_U: grub2 for efi? wow
[23:47] <NightHawk877> Jordan_U I cannot boot into Ubuntu
[23:47] <rictec> Amigadude, the last icon in games is cut on mine too
[23:47] <BattlePope> vigo: OK.
[23:47] <boscop> ikonia: up to 50%
[23:47] <BattlePope> Which image would you suggest?
[23:47] <ikonia> boscop: in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, do you have a "Driver" line ?
[23:47] <Trizicus> VCoolio: There is no Icon tab when I right click
[23:47] <Flannel> andre_: What's it doing instead?
[23:47] <btakita> Jordan_U: I think I'm going to stick with grub1 for now
[23:47] <suprkltz> Jordan: Where caN i FIND THE STEPS TO GET PAST THE ooO FAULTS FOR EMAILMERGE,...
[23:47] <andre_> Flannel: nothing, just making my cursor blink a little
[23:47] <Skillen> ikonia: Sorry it was losha.
[23:47] <Jordan_U> NightHawk877: Ok, then I will walk you through the steps to do it from the liveCD
[23:47] <Mike_lifeguard> !rtorrent
[23:48] <klabezo> please is there some room in this server for general chat ?
[23:48] <lmentop_> andre_: ctrl+shift+C ?
[23:48] <jpds> !info rtorrent | Mike_lifeguard
[23:48] <ikonia> klabezo: #defocus
[23:48] <boscop> ikonia: no
[23:48] <lstarnes> klabezo: #ubuntu-offtopic or #defocus
[23:48] <jpds> ikonia: ##defocus
[23:48] <Trizicus> VCoolio: And when I drag the icon the app tries to open it up
[23:48] <ikonia> boscop: ok - this is worth a try then
[23:48] <Dooms_day> what is the smallest partiton size for netbook remix do you guys recomend for normal use
[23:48]  * jpds ducks.
[23:48] <ikonia> jpds: is it ???
[23:48] <Flannel> andre_: In what? Is something running you're trying to stop?
[23:48] <Jordan_U> NightHawk877: Do you only have one drive in the computer?
[23:48] <btakita> Jordan_U: Until grub2 becomes idiot-proof :-)
[23:48] <andre_> lmentop_: nope, that makes my cursor blink a little differently, but its not breaking.
[23:48] <VCoolio> Trizicus: first properties, then the 'basic' tab
[23:48] <jtan189> is there a better place i should be asking this question perhaps?
[23:48] <klabezo> thank you friends
[23:48] <tc111> Dooms_day: which partition?
[23:48] <andre_> Flannel: yes, ctrl+c should break like it ALWAYS does in every terminal ever.
[23:48] <Flannel> andre_: What are you running?
[23:48] <Amigadude> rictec: cool, at least it's not a problem here :)
[23:48] <Trizicus> oh rofl didn't know clicking on the icon would allow me to change it
[23:48] <andre_> Flannel: 9.10, just upgraded last night.
[23:49] <Trizicus> VCoolio: Thanks rofl
[23:49] <Flannel> andre_: right, but what program?
[23:49] <ikonia> boscop: in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf you need to add a line
[23:49] <NightHawk877> Walk me through it
[23:49] <Flannel> andre_: in irssi, for instance, ctrl-c is what you use to do color stuffs.
[23:49] <tc111> Dooms_day: what type and size of drive?
[23:49] <andre_> Flannel: bash
[23:49] <Dooms_day> because i have windows and ubuntu netbook remix, and i might want to add another linux later,
[23:49] <lstarnes> andre_: check the terminal's keyboard shortcuts
[23:49] <Joeseph> In the Karmic install, does the desktop wallpaper with the space pictures in it automatically change?
[23:49] <rictec> Amigadude, i didnt notice that befoure
[23:49] <thegreyspot> Like I was saying before about how when i open Terminal it doesnt bring it to the front (meaning I cant type right away with out first clickin gon it()
[23:49] <Dooms_day> i have a 160GB HDD and 2 OSes so far
[23:49] <ikonia> boscop: find "Section "Device" in the file
[23:49] <NightHawk877> I'm in karmic if that helps
[23:49] <Sireorion_> plz help me with ltsp in private
[23:49] <Jordan_U> NightHawk877: Do you know if you have only one drive in your computer?
[23:49] <vigo> BattlePope: Just seems like is a bad or corrupted Image somehow, download the LiveCD or the USB and check the Hash.
[23:49] <thegreyspot> I notice it does that for other programs too
[23:49] <VCoolio> Trizicus: no problem; drag and drop your icon on there works too
[23:49] <boscop> ikonia: ok. have it
[23:49] <thegreyspot> Is there some setting i need to hcange?
[23:49] <btakita> Jordan_U: Thank you for your help
[23:49] <Jordan_U> btakita: np
[23:49] <NightHawk877> I have two Sata and one IDE. one of the satas has Windows, but the other has Ubuntu
[23:50] <mrfree> ubuntu9.10 first boot GRUB Error2 (in stage2) any idea???
[23:50] <gonzoism> what is the command to make aptitude or apt-get make a list of everything installed so I can install them all at once with that list ?
[23:50] <ikonia> boscop: ok, do you have "Identifier" in between section and endsection ?
[23:50] <kexman> NathanL: it was directed to anyone who has problems connecting with a broadcom wired adapter :)
[23:50] <Trizicus> VCoolio: Thanks lol is there a location to find all this simple info on the web>?
[23:50] <andre_> lstarnes: there's a shift-ctrl-c = copy shortcut in my terminal, but nothing on ctrl+c
[23:50] <Flannel> !cloning | gonzoism
[23:50] <NightHawk877> The IDE is just storage and has no OS in it
[23:50] <boscop> ikonia: yes. it's "Configured Video Device"
[23:50] <mcnellis> I have a USB Flash drive and when I plug it into my computer the light on it blinks for a moment but the drive never mounts or anything. It works fine in windows though :(
[23:50] <ikonia> boscop: cool, so under that line add the word               Driver [tab] "Intel"
[23:50] <VCoolio> Trizicus: just usual ubuntu howtos I think, this is one of those little tricks you need to have seen once
[23:50] <gonzoism> Flannel, do you know of another way ?  I am only wanting the list. (i didn't save the .debs)
[23:51] <Jordan_U> NightHawk877: Ok, can you run the command "blkid" in a terminal and give the output to me via pastebin?
[23:51] <Flannel> andre_: If you're at a bash prompt, ctrl-c should do nothing.  What's running that you're wanting to stop?
[23:51] <Sireorion_> hello can someone help me with ltsp? plz plz plz
[23:51] <ikonia> boscop: so that should be Driver (no quotes) - hit tab, then "Intel"
[23:51] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | NightHawk877
[23:51] <mcnellis> dmesg doesn't show any activity either
[23:51] <Flannel> gonzoism: The first part gives you the list (in a file) and then the second part is where you can mark them all for install (they don't need to be saved)
[23:51] <ikonia> boscop: so now section "Device" should have 2 options, does that look right to you now ?
[23:51] <Trizicus> VCoolio: Any website that has a list of these tricks lol
[23:51] <lstarnes> Sireorion_: what specifically about ltsp do you need help with?
[23:51] <andre_> Flannel: that's not true, ctrl+c at a bash prompt should give you a new prompt. I'm not trying to kill anything, I've been using ubuntu since hoary, I know how it should work, it changed in 9.10 and its terrible.
[23:51] <boscop> ikonia: yes, but the new line is not aligned with the one above
[23:51] <drake> hi
[23:51] <boscop> ikonia: i.e. the "Intel" part
[23:51] <ikonia> Dooms_day: alignment doesn't matter, don't worry
[23:51] <ikonia> oops
[23:52] <Skillen> Can anyone look at my dmesg output txt file please? The issue I had was when I boot to 9.10 from the GRUB screen I immediately get a blank screen with a flashing white cursor in the top left. I couldn't use pastebinit because it wouldn't write the file. The text file is from recovery mode and is at http://www.datafilehost.com/download-c051021c.html
[23:52] <ikonia> boscop: sorry that was for you
[23:52] <zechs> ikonia: well I got it to display normally again haha. Now if I could just bother you once more for help with my audio. thank you so much by the way for the help
[23:52] <lstarnes> Sireorion_: it is possible that few or no people here knowhow to work with ltsp
[23:52] <ezzieyguywuf> I tried #Openoffice.org but noone in there. How can I import a .csv and have the values read as numbers, not text (with the leading apostrophe)
[23:52] <boscop> ikonia: ok
[23:52] <gonzoism> flannel, there is another way that is way simpler, but I don't think I am going to find it soon enough.  thank you.  also, the command I am thinking of is like 5 words long.
[23:52] <boscop> ikonia: and now?
[23:52] <tc111> Dooms_day: my true 'netbook' has a 4GB SSD which i find is adequate for my jaunty nbr
[23:52] <ikonia> zechs: no problem, I'm not massive on pulse audio to be honest, but I'll try (plus there are some sharp guys in here that are good with pulse)
[23:52]  * Take0n goodnight folks
[23:52] <Flannel> gonzoism: You mean with --get-selections? that's deprecated
[23:52] <ikonia> boscop: restart your X server - lets see if that helps
[23:53] <gonzoism> Flannel, 5 words or 7 words or something.  I don't think it is --get selections.  If I do find it, I'll let you know.  it is very handy.  :)  thanks again.
[23:53] <zechs> ikonia: oh really? who should I ask? or should I generally post the question?
[23:53] <VCoolio> Trizicus: http://www.howtogeek.com/tag/linux/#ubuntu-tips   is something, google for ubuntu tricks
[23:53] <ikonia> just ask in general
[23:53] <boscop> ikonia: how?
[23:53] <Mike_lifeguard> !torrents
[23:53] <pipboy> Can anyone tell me how to manually update samba? The new version is not in the repository yet
[23:53] <ikonia> boscop: reboot is easiest
[23:53] <boscop> ikonia: ok but don't go away please :)
[23:54] <zechs> Would anyone be able to help me fix my audio? After updating to ubnutu 9.10 I lost my audio.
[23:54] <btakita> Jordan_U: Actually, can I select grub1 when installing from the 9.10 cd?
[23:54] <Trizicus> VCoolio: Book marking this lol thanks
[23:54] <Dooms_day> hmm i think ill shrink my UNR  and windows partition, because i still need a prety big shared FAT32 drive for files all 3 oses can get to
[23:54] <ikonia> boscop: going nowhere
[23:54] <Dooms_day> thanks for the thoughts
[23:54] <btakita> Jordan_U: Or should I install 9.04 from the cd and do a dist upgrade?
[23:54] <seth556> hello from orlando
[23:54] <Jordan_U> btakita: neither
[23:54] <Sireorion_> hello can someone help me with ltsp? how do i option-221 "tftp"
[23:54] <rictec> never is hi place
[23:54] <VCoolio> pipboy: either add a repository (recommended) or find a .deb or compile which may be difficult; what version do you need?
[23:54] <genii-around> pipboy: Whatever isn't in a repository needs to be compiled
[23:55] <btakita> Jordan_U: So stay on 9.04 for now?
[23:55] <Jordan_U> btakita: I would install karmic and then when the install is done install grub legacy while still in the LiveCD
[23:55] <raebodep> Guys I installed ubuntu
[23:55] <lstarnes> Sireorion_: what is option-221 "tftp" supposed to do?
[23:55] <raebodep> And my computer exploded
[23:55] <seth556> can anyone help, i'm all of the sudden getting error 17 when i try to boot
[23:55] <btakita> Jordan_U: Ok, thanks.
[23:55] <Nighthawk877> blkid does nothing Jordan
[23:55] <hassanakevazir> zechs, "lspci | grep Audio" in terminal , paste here
[23:55] <Voss> raebodep, that would be really awesome if true :)
[23:55] <genii-around> raebodep: So you're on your other backup coomputer then?
[23:56] <Jordan_U> Nighthawk877: Ok, then try "sudo fdisk -l"
[23:56] <raebodep> No I'm jk :P . Ubuntu is great
[23:56] <lmentop_> raebodep: was it a sony vaio?
[23:56] <Amigadude> exploding and taking out a troll or 2 would be even better
[23:56] <ken> seth556 are you using the new 9.10 and grub2
[23:56] <raebodep> lol my mom has sony Vaio
[23:56] <Concretesledge_> how can i reset my desktop
[23:56] <Concretesledge_> it keeps freezing up, i can't see the icons or anything
[23:56] <seth556> ken: no its 9.04 and grub 1.5
[23:56] <Skillen> Thanks anyway maybe I'll paste it in to the forums.
[23:56] <Jordan_U> btakita: np, you can install gru legacy via chroot ( if you know what chroot is )
[23:56] <kaddi> how can I list all loaded modules?
[23:56] <Voss> raebodep, If you ever figure out how to do it let us know :)
[23:56] <zechs> hassanakevazir: 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[23:56] <kexman> not to those who want to use B43 driver for broadcom wifis that you now need to manually download firmware for your driver and needs to be compatible with the other driver :)
[23:56] <lstarnes> kaddi: lsmod
[23:57] <kexman> haha
[23:57] <kexman> i guess with ndiswrapper driver
[23:57] <Nighthawk877> it worked, but how do I use that pastebin thing?
[23:57] <suprkltz> ezzieyguywuf: I am also having trouble with OOo after my 9.10 upgrade--Dont have any answers
[23:57] <btakita> Jordan_U: No, but I bet google does :-)
[23:57] <kaddi> lstarnes: thx
[23:57] <ken> do you have one drive or are you using multiple drives
[23:57] <DeathMetalDean> does anyone know how to get farsight2 for amsn? It's so that I can video call
[23:57] <ezzieyguywuf> suprkltz: how annoying...
[23:57] <Amigadude> kexman: huh? I used synaptic did it all for me :)
[23:57] <seth556> ken: its only ubuntu and has been working fine until now randomly
[23:57] <raebodep> take a C4
[23:57] <raebodep> stick it into your motherboard
[23:57] <raebodep>  get rid of the fans
[23:57] <raebodep> ???
[23:57] <raebodep> PROFIT
[23:57] <FloodBot1> raebodep: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:57] <kexman> Amigadude: well i have no net now
[23:57] <jStefan> !pastebin | Nighthawk877
[23:57] <kexman> cooool ...
[23:58] <kexman> wait i might get updates via cable that i fixed
[23:58] <Amigadude> kexman: I had a spare USB wifi
[23:58] <Voss> kex, I found out the hard way that 9.10 Netbook remix doesnt support dell mini 9 wifi out of the box even though 9.04 does
[23:58] <kexman> but i bet that cable connection problem comes from the same issue the b43 one
[23:58] <raebodep> Guys my EDonkey doesn't work
[23:58] <ikonia> raebodep: please check your pm's
[23:58] <ikonia> raebodep: thank you
[23:58] <Nighthawk877> Jordan here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/308966/
[23:58] <oboewan> hey guys i need some help
[23:59] <Amigadude> use the force?
[23:59] <oboewan> just installed ubuntu and now am trying to install drivers for my geforce4mx
[23:59] <Sireorion_> how do i change protocol in lstp to tftp
[23:59] <Amigadude> ...sorry couldn't resist
[23:59] <btakita> Jordan_U: Again thank you. You have saved me quite a bit of angst and face-palming.
[23:59] <raebodep> My edonkey doesn't work, how do I get porn on my Ubuntu?
[23:59] <boscop> ikonia: ok I'm back
[23:59] <xiong> Concretesledge_, I might be able to help; we will need more information.
[23:59] <ikonia> raebodep: that's offtopic here