[00:56] <Devastator> _Techie_ i could make my pccard to work with debian, maybe it will work with xubuntu as i've learned how to do it, but debian installer is faster
[00:57] <Devastator> replace "could" to "managed
[01:20] <_Techie_> Devastator, yeah, i would presume it should work if you can get it to work in debian, i have a firmware patch on my laptop on my laptops wireless card that i got from a debian forum
[01:21] <Devastator> _Techie_ with debian i didn't need to use boot parameters for install, but with xubuntu i need it or "kernel panic" :|
[01:22] <_Techie_> it may be a different kernel
[01:22] <Devastator> yep
[01:23] <Devastator> 2.6.26 on debian
[01:23] <Devastator> 2.6.31 on xubuntu 9.10 "karma"
[01:52] <_Techie_> im gonna boot into windows so i can print off a file, i probably wont be back till i get home
[01:52] <_Techie_> ill see you all tonight
[01:53] <Devastator> ok
[02:31] <_Techie_> im back but im gonna be playing some monkey island
[04:10] <Animagladius> Night
[04:13] <Tonno> hi to all :)
[04:41] <visitor1> hi @ channel
[04:46] <_Techie_> hello visitor1
[04:50] <lufte> hi all
[04:51] <visitor1> hi _Techie_
[04:51] <visitor1> how are you?
[05:06] <_Techie_> sorry visitor1 i would love to stay and chat but i gotta go
[05:08] <visitor1> ok cu
[06:33] <Sertse> hi
[06:33] <Sertse> anyone know of a wallpaper of the lake and forest in jaunty?
[06:51] <jrochamtz> alo!!
[06:52] <Axius> hi
[06:52] <jrochamtz> hi. i'm new here
[06:52] <jrochamtz> :)
[06:52] <jrochamtz> i have an installation issue with xubuntu 9
[06:52] <jrochamtz> 9.10
[06:53] <jrochamtz> i'm triyng to install xubuntu on a box called dectop
[06:53] <Balsaq> cool
[06:53] <jrochamtz> it's a minimal pc with a geode processor and 128mb in ram
[06:54] <Balsaq> lil light on the ram for umuntu my friend
[06:54] <Balsaq> but go for it
[06:54] <jrochamtz> yeap, it's cool it uses less than 8 watt
[06:54] <jrochamtz> i don/t want/need the gui
[06:55] <jrochamtz> so, i will survive on level 3
[06:55] <jrochamtz> but my problem right now is
[06:55] <_Techie_> jrochamtz, are you new to linux or just new to ubuntu?
[06:56] <jrochamtz> well.... new here. i have been using linux for a while. but first with ubuntu
[06:57] <jrochamtz> my problem is tha installation says there is no suitable kernel to install, if i want to continue without kernel
[06:58] <jrochamtz> what am i doing wrong, the kernel must be a generic i386 or am i wrong?
[07:07] <jrochamtz> so... nobody had that issue before??
[07:19] <Matteh> hi
[07:20] <Matteh> I was wondering if there is an x64 version of xubuntu 9.10 for intel architecture as I can't see it on the downloads?
[07:54] <Balsaq> ahhh...finally got a couple days off to spens in the lab!
[07:54] <Balsaq> spens=spens
[07:54] <Balsaq> spend....
[08:00] <Animagladius> Huhu.
[08:03] <Balsaq> Welcome to the xu.....
[08:05] <knome> hi | Balsaq
[08:05] <knome> äh
[08:05] <knome> !hi | Balsaq
[08:11] <Balsaq> hiya knome
[08:11] <Balsaq> was gettin some garbanzos!
[08:11] <knome> what's those?
[08:11] <Balsaq> chic peas
[08:12] <Balsaq> gotta have em every os often
[08:12] <knome> i am again ircing from bus
[08:12] <Balsaq> sorry to hear that knome
[08:13] <knome> Balsaq, why? at least i have something to do
[08:13] <Balsaq> oh ok...what is ircing from bus?
[08:14] <Balsaq> wifi?
[08:14] <knome> phone
[08:14] <Balsaq> wow
[08:14] <Balsaq> i am sitting at my basement deskto
[08:15] <knome> :)
[08:15] <knome> i am going to work
[08:16] <knome> downsides in both
[08:16] <Balsaq> i hope you remember that cool terminal command you gave  cause when my other coputer gets done updating i want to get the youtube vids going on it
[08:16] <Balsaq> just got off work here 3 hrs ago
[08:16] <Balsaq> sudu get-install non-free....something or othere/
[08:17] <knome> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:17] <Balsaq> ahhhhhh
[08:17] <Balsaq> you are everything
[08:18] <knome> heh
[08:18] <jrochamtz> sorry. knome can i ask you a question?
[08:18] <knome> jrochamtz, feel free to
[08:18] <jrochamtz> :) thanks
[08:19] <jrochamtz> i'm playing with a dektop. it's a small computer. it consumes less than 8 watt
[08:19] <jrochamtz> it has a geode 300 mhz processor and 128 mb of ram
[08:20] <jrochamtz> it runs ubuntu 8 without gui
[08:20] <knome> 8.what?
[08:20] <jrochamtz> i tried xubuntu 9.10 but it send an error something like there no suitable kernel to install
[08:20] <jrochamtz> 8 watts
[08:20] <knome> that's weird
[08:21] <jrochamtz> so i was wondering if you have een something like that
[08:22] <jrochamtz> i don't know why. it must be recognized as a x86 processor
[08:22] <knome> are yo sure you have the x86 version?
[08:22] <jrochamtz> yeap. absolutely
[08:22] <knome> hmm
[08:23] <jrochamtz> it's not the same error when you try to install a 64 bit os
[08:23] <knome> it's older, right?
[08:23] <jrochamtz> kind of
[08:23] <knome> hmm
[08:24] <knome> did you check the cd integrity
[08:24] <jrochamtz> yeap it installs on my vmware
[08:24] <jrochamtz> from the cd
[08:24] <knome> bbl, maybe in 5-mins
[08:25] <jrochamtz> ok
[08:25] <knome> i hope you get that working
[08:25] <jrochamtz> thanks
[08:26] <Balsaq> knome do you use xubuntu as your main OS?
[08:40] <_Techie_> brb, gotta restart my media pc
[08:48] <knome_work> jrochamtz: did you solve the problem already?
[08:49] <jrochamtz> i'm working on it
[08:49] <knome_work> okay
[08:49] <jrochamtz> i saw i can switch to another terminal and run aptitud and install the missing packages manually
[08:49] <jrochamtz> do you know another method?
[08:49] <knome_work> ah, right
[08:50] <knome_work> no, not really
[08:50] <knome_work> so when you booted, it didn't find a kernel for you?
[08:50] <knome_work> i though it  happened install-time
[08:50] <jrochamtz> yeap it was at install time
[08:50] <knome_work> hmm, weird
[08:51] <jrochamtz> but there is a page
[08:51] <jrochamtz> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3444.html
[08:51] <knome_work> ah, okay
[08:52] <knome_work> i hope that helps
[08:52] <jrochamtz> do you know another method?
[08:55] <knome_work> no, i haven't had anything like that ever
[08:56] <knome_work> but i think those instructions might very well work
[08:56] <jrochamtz> i hope so
[08:57] <jrochamtz> i need to save energy consumption
[08:57] <knome_work> mm-hm
[08:57] <knome_work> i understand
[09:05] <mace^> Hello
[09:07] <__Techie_> hello mace^ were you asking earlier about changing a username?
[09:13] <_Techie_> mace^, you there?
[09:24] <mace^> yes
[09:24] <mace^> well i made a new one user
[09:24] <_Techie_> theres a much simpler way
[09:24] <mace^> but i have an error about adobe-flashplugin
[09:24] <_Techie_> that doesnt involve recreating accounts
[09:25] <_Techie_> man usermod
[09:29] <knome_work> morning _Techie_
[09:29] <_Techie_> morning knome
[09:30] <_Techie_> just for the books, its nighttime here
[09:30] <knome_work> haha :) it's almost noon here also
[09:32] <_Techie_> its 10:31 pm here
[09:32] <knome_work> +13
[09:32] <_Techie_> 12
[09:32] <_Techie_> although i think were currently in daylight savings so yeah prolly 13
[09:33] <knome_work> que? i mean 10:31pm + 13 here so 11:31am :P
[09:33] <_Techie_> more like  -11
[09:34] <knome_work> where are you then?
[09:34] <_Techie_> NZ, +12 hours GMT
[09:34] <knome_work> ah
[09:34] <knome_work> of course :P
[09:34] <knome_work> then you are correct
[09:34] <knome_work> we are +2
[09:35] <_Techie_> 10 hours behind us normally, 11 with daylight savings
[09:41] <_Techie_> im gonna go to bed, night knome
[09:41] <knome_work> night _Techie_
[09:42] <knome_work> actually we have DST too and then we are +3, so -9 with DST and -11 wihtout
[09:42] <knome_work> O:)
[09:51] <Balsaq> knome_work it 450am here
[09:51] <knome_work> Balsaq: X|
[09:58] <knome_work> Balsaq: you need to sleep
[09:59] <Balsaq> got youtube on ubuntu...didnt even have to t=do the sudo?
[09:59] <knome_work> :)
[09:59] <Balsaq> hey knome_work....you know i work full time don't ya?
[10:00] <knome_work> Balsaq: full time == 24/7?
[10:01] <Balsaq> if you coun't my work in mybasement lab and my 2nd job as ski patrolll---well about 20 out of 24 yes
[10:01] <knome_work> ... basement lab :P
[10:01] <knome_work> but 5am is... 5am
[10:01] <Balsaq> thats what i like like to refer to it as...since i discovered xubuntu
[10:02] <knome_work> ah hehe
[10:02] <knome_work> well in that case i work more than 24 hours per day :P
[10:02] <Balsaq> but iswork 40-50 hrs a week too
[10:02] <knome_work> (multitasking)
[10:02] <Balsaq> and in the winter i do 16-24 additional as ski patroller
[10:02] <knome_work> ugh
[10:03] <Balsaq> kinda rushin too pay off my house...3 more years!
[10:03] <knome_work> ah of course
[10:03] <Balsaq> then i will relax.....
[10:03] <knome_work> lol
[10:03] <knome_work> and drink lots of beer and rum?
[10:04] <Balsaq> well maybe after my workout is over?
[10:04] <knome_work> maybe
[10:04] <Balsaq> i don't require much sleep
[10:04] <knome_work> when i was younger, 3 hours was enough. now 6 hours is there and there
[10:04] <Balsaq> i worked 4-12 today at work and i have been working on my computers from 12 till now
[10:05] <Balsaq> my network here is really getting better all the time
[10:05] <knome_work> oh, if you don't have to wake up early, then you can stay up until 5am :P
[10:05] <Balsaq> well iam off now for 2 days
[10:05] <knome_work> but if you have to wake up at 7am, oh man ;)
[10:06] <knome_work> better have some sleep before 5am ;D
[10:06] <knome_work> well i'm still waiting for the weekend.. again
[10:06] <knome_work> then i can do more work on my own projects
[10:07] <Balsaq> do you write OS's?
[10:07] <knome_work> no, not really
[10:07] <Balsaq> you once said IT
[10:07] <knome_work> yeah
[10:07] <Balsaq> i hope you are always aroung these channels
[10:07] <Balsaq> aroung=around
[10:08] <knome_work> my friend is building his own OS
[10:08] <knome_work> but that's a completely other story
[10:08] <Balsaq> i would love to do that
[10:08] <knome_work> i'm mostly working with artwork stuff
[10:08] <knome_work> and websites
[10:08] <Balsaq> oh cool
[10:08] <Balsaq> i want to have a website soon
[10:08] <knome_work> lately i've been writing some useful wordpress plugins
[10:09] <Balsaq> wow that is really needed
[10:09] <knome_work> yeah, we're going to use them ourselves
[10:09] <knome_work> but i can see other people might use them as well
[10:09] <Balsaq> well what about all of us!
[10:09] <knome_work> i just have to polish them before publishing
[10:09] <knome_work> and ehm.. write some comments to my code :P
[10:10] <Balsaq> i wish ubuntu were orange....like a tangerine
[10:10] <Balsaq> instead of..whatever this color is
[10:10] <knome_work> hmm
[10:10] <knome_work> isn't the new ubuntu a bit more brigther/saturated?
[10:10] <knome_work> *brighter
[10:10] <Balsaq> yeah huh
[10:11] <knome_work> a bit too bright? ;)
[10:11] <Balsaq> no it need to be bright like the sun...but orange
[10:11] <knome_work> what do you think it is now?
[10:11] <knome_work> brown? :P
[10:12] <Balsaq> kinda brown
[10:12] <Balsaq> not sure what to make of it
[10:12] <knome_work> okay
[10:12] <knome_work> hehe
[10:12] <Balsaq> what color is it...i have it on one of those old fashioned monitors..the color is as good as my flat panels
[10:13] <Balsaq> is not as good i meant
[10:13] <knome_work> beige? :P
[10:13] <knome_work> gray?
[10:13] <knome_work> sun burnt gray?
[10:13] <Balsaq> can't put a finger on it
[10:13] <Balsaq> taupe
[10:13] <knome_work> right
[10:14] <Balsaq> xubuntu really has it all
[10:14] <knome_work> heh, maybe soon you will have more
[10:15] <Balsaq> i have puppylinux, linuxmint, xubuntu,ubuntu, xp pro, w98.....
[10:16] <knome_work> i have windows 95 installed in virtualbox ;)
[10:16] <knome_work> works with internet and you can run red alert 2 with it
[10:16] <Balsaq> that would be cool, never saw that OS
[10:16] <knome_work> it's much like a bad windows 98, but faster
[10:17] <Balsaq> i may buy w 2000 pro for fun...i see it on ebay for 10 dollars sometimes
[10:17] <knome_work> hmm
[10:17] <knome_work> i'd need a few of those
[10:17] <Balsaq> those dell only discs are cheap and i have lots of dells
[10:17] <knome_work> non-oem versions, preferably
[10:17] <Balsaq> well on of these computers has a w2000 sticker
[10:19] <Balsaq> have you seen mint yet?
[10:19] <knome_work> i'm not gonna use those os'es in actual computers, but in virtualbox
[10:19] <knome_work> well, maybe one natively
[10:19] <knome_work> i have seen shots of mint
[10:19] <Balsaq> see i don't actuallly even know what virtualbox is...will google it sometime
[10:20] <Balsaq> i like the green desktop with water drops
[10:21] <knome_work> virtualbox is emulation software, so you can run an OS under an OS
[10:21] <Balsaq> many times techie or others give me instructions and they have no idea that i don't any even a clue as too what they are talking about
[10:21] <Balsaq> but i eventually find my way
[10:21] <Balsaq> will learn all this eventually
[10:22] <Balsaq> i ahve had a computer since 98 but never really paid much attention to it
[10:22] <Balsaq> a few days ago i installed FF from the command line without being initiially on the net
[10:22] <Balsaq> so i di without bbeing under IE at all
[10:23] <Balsaq> have you done that
[10:24] <Balsaq> you can start at the desktop in xp pro and not be on the internet at all...and do commands and tap into mozilla from the command line ad install it all on a black and white screen....hope its legal
[10:24] <knome_work> no, haven't done that
[10:24] <Balsaq> it was fun
[10:24] <Balsaq> and it made it so it is not under the guise of IE at all
[10:24] <knome_work> why would going to CLI and installing software be illegal? :P
[10:24] <Balsaq> i dunno...felt like a hack or something
[10:25] <Balsaq> like i snuck in the back door
[10:26] <knome_work> that's how the experts usually do things
[10:26] <Balsaq> but then again i dunno what hack is or how to do one, but to me it reminded me of what a real hack looks like in my imagination
[10:26] <knome_work> CLI is more powerful if you know how to use it
[10:26] <Balsaq> it felt powerful
[10:27] <mr_boo_ltp> Balsaq: so you work as a ski patrol?
[10:27] <Balsaq> well on the side yes
[10:27] <mr_boo_ltp> cool
[10:27] <Balsaq> that way i can ski all the resorts free and get paid
[10:27] <Balsaq> i live near 2 ski resorts
[10:28] <mr_boo_ltp> Balsaq: what part of the world?
[10:28] <Balsaq> see on my days off i ski anyway...so i amy as well patrol.....(new england)
[10:28] <Balsaq> usa
[10:28] <Balsaq> Berkshire Mountains
[10:29] <mr_boo_ltp> so northern us has good skiing cool
[10:29] <Balsaq> well they have massive snow making systems also
[10:29] <Balsaq> plus some years we get a ton of real snow also
[10:29] <mr_boo_ltp> it was long ago i went downhill
[10:29] <Balsaq> ill be skiing in a month...
[10:29] <Balsaq> it ens in early april
[10:30] <mr_boo_ltp> in fact over 10 years :(
[10:30] <Balsaq> wow i better be quiet if someone asks for tech help...
[10:30] <knome_work> i've gone nordic skiing for 500 meters in my life
[10:30] <mr_boo_ltp> we've got some small peaks in northern sweden
[10:30] <knome_work> never went downhill
[10:30] <Balsaq> sweden ahhh someday
[10:30] <knome_work> Balsaq: then visit finland also ;)
[10:31] <Balsaq> in 3 years ill be able to ski in europe
[10:31] <Balsaq> i have skied colorado
[10:31] <Balsaq> finland yes
[10:31] <Balsaq> all of it
[10:32] <Balsaq> my brother in law has a home in France so i will ski chamonioux
[10:32] <knome_work> we don't have that many hills and they are not that good
[10:32] <knome_work> but we have a lot of open source developers ;)
[10:32] <Balsaq> but you can go ice fishing!
[10:32] <knome_work> sure
[10:32] <Balsaq> i have don it
[10:33] <mr_boo_ltp> Balsaq: you said something about a basement lab
[10:33] <knome_work> i haven't gone ice fishing
[10:33] <knome_work> or what comes to that, i haven't even gone fishing ;)
[10:33] <Balsaq> yes since i discovered linux...i have been collecting computeres and OS's and my basement is now my lab
[10:33] <mr_boo_ltp> ah i see
[10:34] <Balsaq> i also have a fishing boat for fishing
[10:34] <mr_boo_ltp> i do some electronics development
[10:34] <Balsaq> i really enjoy sonar
[10:34] <mr_boo_ltp> fish is the only meat i eat
[10:34] <jrochamtz> i want to learn about electronics
[10:34] <knome_work> Balsaq: you can soon apply to be a server administrator for google ;D
[10:34] <Balsaq> yeah...axept i dont know anything about computeres!
[10:35] <Balsaq> (whew bad typing)
[10:35] <knome_work> jrochamtz: buy a soldering iron and start playing
[10:35] <mr_boo_ltp> do i need to check for drive fragmentation in xubuntu?
[10:36] <knome_work> mr_boo_ltp: no, fragmentation is not really a problem with the filesystems linux usually uses
[10:36] <mr_boo_ltp> i see
[10:36] <jrochamtz> JAJAJAJAJJA
[10:36] <Balsaq> i ahve read the filesystem in linux is far superior to windows
[10:36] <jrochamtz> i have read and i know it's not that simple
[10:36] <mr_boo_ltp> i know ext3 has special measures for defraggin itself
[10:36] <knome_work> jrochamtz: ;)
[10:37] <mr_boo_ltp> but xubuntu uses ext2 right
[10:37] <knome_work> the FS's in linux are written by murderers ;)
[10:37] <jrochamtz> xubuntu uses ext4
[10:37] <knome_work> mr_boo_ltp: ext3 is ext2 with journaling
[10:38] <Balsaq> how can i tell what ext i put this xubuntu in?
[10:38] <Balsaq> i dont recall choosing
[10:38] <mr_boo_ltp> so xubuntu uses a more powerful file system than ubuntu?
[10:38] <knome_work> mr_boo_ltp: no, ubuntu uses ext3 also
[10:38] <knome_work> Balsaq: xubuntu uses ext3 by default (at least before karmic)
[10:39] <Balsaq> oh good
[10:39] <Balsaq> puppy is in sda1 i think/
[10:39] <knome_work> Balsaq: doesn't mount tell the fs type?
[10:40] <Balsaq> yes but when iwas done it shows a pic of HD and says something like ssda1
[10:40] <Balsaq> sda1/dev/
[10:40] <Balsaq> ?
[10:41] <knome_work> that's the device id
[10:41] <Balsaq> i dont have it on now
[10:41] <knome_work> sda1 points to specific device on your pc
[10:41] <knome_work> and specific partition
[10:41] <Balsaq> but earlier in the install i think it did go in in 3
[10:41] <knome_work> but hs nothing to do with FS type
[10:41] <Balsaq> maybe
[10:41] <Balsaq> or 2 cant remeber
[10:42] <Balsaq> 'it runs fast on 400mgz 10 g hd 768sdram
[10:42] <knome_work> since karmic, ext4 is used
[10:42] <Balsaq> o
[10:42] <Balsaq>  itook me 2 days to ge that one going
[10:42] <Balsaq> evertime i would tell it to do something it would ask me 10 questions?
[10:42] <knome_work> but if you have upgraded, the FS's are not updated because (if i am correct) you can't updgrade from ext3 to ext4 without losing data)
[10:43] <knome_work> -)
[10:43] <knome_work> Balsaq: hmm? :)
[10:43] <Balsaq> and i knew NONe of the answersto this day it wont go online inless i take it too the desktop with the cd?
[10:43] <Balsaq> puppy is really wierd
[10:43] <knome_work> right, puppy
[10:44] <knome_work> well, it's an OS for advanced users
[10:44] <knome_work> with advanced i really mean advanced
[10:44] <knome_work> not like "anything but newbies"
[10:44] <Balsaq> got it in there though,,,even plays utube
[10:44] <knome_work> yep :)
[10:44] <Balsaq> nightmare....
[10:44] <knome_work> hehe
[10:45] <Balsaq> now i get it
[10:45] <Balsaq> i just have to learn to make it go online without the dadgummed cd?
[10:45] <Balsaq> after i get to the desk i can pull the cd out and it goes online that way
[10:45] <knome_work> you mean puppy? i don't know
[10:46] <Balsaq> yeah puppy
[10:46] <knome_work> you have to install the drivers and do a correct network setup
[10:46] <Balsaq> ill figure it oute ventually
[10:46] <knome_work> by hand, mostly, i think
[10:46] <Balsaq> oh yea every piece of it
[10:46] <Balsaq> i am pretty far along wth it now
[10:46] <knome_work> yeah
[10:47] <knome_work> but you know, that's the idea of puppy
[10:47] <knome_work> ubuntu is meant to be easy
[10:47] <Balsaq> really its the besy ubu and xu
[10:47] <Balsaq> besy = best
[10:47] <knome_work> with puppy you can do everything like you want, but it's not that easy
[10:47] <Balsaq> too much tooling around with puppy
[10:48] <knome_work> i have to agree
[10:48] <Balsaq> glad i did it now, learned a lot
[10:48] <knome_work> even if you could get your system a bit more effective
[10:48] <knome_work> i don't need to play with custom packages and that kind of development so i don't need it
[10:49] <Balsaq> gets old
[10:49] <knome_work> many of the xfce developers use puppy because it's so customisable
[10:49] <knome_work> like xfce as a DE ;)
[10:49] <Balsaq> if could only have 2 it would be xubuntu and xp pro
[10:50] <knome_work> if i only could have two, ... oh wait, i only use xubuntu already
[10:50] <knome_work> ;)
[10:50] <knome_work> have to go now
[10:50] <knome_work> see you later and have a nice day
[10:50] <Balsaq> ok see ya
[10:50] <Balsaq> thanks for all the help
[10:50] <knome_work> np :)
[10:52] <Balsaq> i have also been wondring about defrag
[10:52] <Balsaq> in buntu
[10:52] <Balsaq> i dont do any maintenance on linux?
[11:00] <jrochamtz> who knows how can i boot on cli automtically
[11:00] <jrochamtz> i mean init 3
[11:03] <Anon164> hey
[11:03] <Anon164> whats this
[11:20] <ron_o> Balsaq, you don't have to worry about defrag too much in linux. Maybe over the course of many years you do.
[11:20] <ron_o> in ext4 there is a defragger, but not in ext3 filesystem.
[11:24] <ron_o> jrochamtz, you need to pass those paramaters to your kernel upon boot.
[11:31] <DaWyzirke> HOZSANNA NEKTEK DICSOSEGES TESVEREIM
[11:32] <DaWyzirke> VADVIKTOR TESVER UDV
[11:33] <vadviktor> oh god :)
[11:34] <DaWyzirke> PACSI TESO
[11:34] <vadviktor> hoi :)
[11:34] <DaWyzirke> Hozsanna neked
[11:34] <Sysi> !en
[11:35] <DaWyzirke> Sysi: Hush now baby, dont you cry!
[11:35] <DaWyzirke> azaz a pofadat befogod hulye ribanc
[11:35] <Sysi> or am i just bad with some slang :P
[11:35] <vadviktor> welcome on my ignore list...
[11:36] <vadviktor> Actually I do understand him, but his attitude, well, needs to be polished
[11:37] <DaWyzirke> Ah Sysi dearest, I have much slang to you:D
[11:38] <Sysi> what language is that?
[11:38] <DaWyzirke> in english of course Honey
[11:39] <Sysi> i could do some finnish for you :)
[11:39] <Sysi> or tyckar du mer om svenska?
[11:39] <DaWyzirke> moi moi
[11:39] <DaWyzirke> Hywolla
[11:40] <DaWyzirke> sdd ketkerekes gyokagyu..leforditom neked szegeny keves agytekervennyel megaldott baratom
[11:49] <DaWyzirke> I am sda King Of TroLLz
[11:49] <DaWyzirke> HeaVy TroLLz Attak Warnin!
[11:49] <DaWyzirke> Whatta penguinfucker channel is it?
[11:52] <subspider> i i don't have menu bar
[11:52] <subspider> how can i eneble it
[11:53] <Sysi> press alt + f2 type "xfce4-panel"
[11:54] <subi> thnks
[11:54] <subi> it worked
[11:55] <subi> so if i restart it will be off again??
[11:55] <Sysi> no it shouldn't
[11:55] <Sysi> at least is you save session
[11:55] <subi> how can i do that
[11:55] <subi> ?'
[11:56] <Sysi> tap on logout window
[11:59] <subi> sorry what you mean buy that
[12:00] <vadviktor> Sysi: it was hungarian
[12:00] <Sysi> when you're shutting down or logging out
[12:01] <Sysi> in that popupwindow
[12:01] <subi> yes and i have to tick
[12:01] <subi> to remember the ssession
[12:01] <subi> yes it's done
[12:01] <subi> i'm going to restart can you wait??
[12:02] <Sysi> yes
[12:02] <subi> ok
[12:07] <subspider> no
[12:07] <subspider> i have to do the same
[12:08] <vadviktor> shutting down linux? :) why so? :)
[12:09] <subspider> no no not that
[12:09] <subspider> i restarted and now i hadn't the manu bar again
[12:09] <Sysi> add command to settings → sessions and startup
[12:10] <subspider> and tha comand is that you gave me
[12:10] <subspider> ??
[12:11] <subspider> oh nice
[12:12] <subspider> i add and he recognise it
[12:12] <Sysi> yes, that one
[12:12] <subspider> i'm going to logout and login
[12:12] <subspider> wait
[12:12] <subspider> ok
[12:12] <subspider> don't go away
[12:12] <Sysi> ahem, i'm on swedish lesson, maybe not online for every minute
[12:12] <subspider> ok
[12:12] <subspider> sorry
[12:13] <Sysi> this isn't very interesting :P
[12:16] <subspider> it worked
[12:16] <subspider> nice
[12:47] <WWWWWW> hozsanna
[12:52] <WWWWWW> wtfm tuks da holy shit and fat linuks penguin now?
[12:55] <kleinie> hi everybody, i've installed xubuntu freshly on my desktop, but i can't get samba shares working with thunar
[12:55] <kleinie> can anybody help me?
[12:56] <ablomen> kleinie, thunar doesnt have samba support
[12:57] <ablomen> kleinie, so either use something like linneighborhood or mount them
[12:58] <ablomen> s/them/the shares
[12:58] <kleinie> ok, but there is a howto on the ubuntu forums, with fusesmb, but it doesn't work with karmic
[12:58] <kleinie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131&highlight=Thunar+Native+Windows+Network+Browsing
[12:59] <kleinie> that's what i'm talking about
[13:03] <ablomen> kleinie, i use smbfs myself, after that you can mount shares with mount -t cifs //SERVER/SHARE -o username=USERNAMEorBLANK,password=PASSWORDorBLANK /media/mountpoint or you can add them to fstab
[13:03] <ablomen> *after installing that
[13:03] <kleinie> ok, i try it
[13:05] <ablomen> kleinie, for fstab you can use something like this: http://pastebin.com/d549c9289
[13:07] <ablomen> and you can change noauto to auto if you are not on a laptop btw (so always in the same network), then it would be auto-mounted on boot
[14:21] <WWWWWW> Hallelujja
[14:22] <Xbuntu_Idiot> Hey everyone.
[14:22] <WWWWWW> Ola bruder
[14:25] <Xbuntu_Idiot> I'm trying to get a Dell 1395 WLAN card in my laptop to work.  I'm trying to run Xubuntu off an external pen drive in the laptop(8GB) and that boots just fine.  It recognizes that I need broadcom drivers, but when I try automatically, it doesn't work.  NDISwrapper doesn't seem to be doing anything either.
[14:26] <WWWWWW> Dell? Drop the trash, please:D
[14:26] <charlie-tca> WWWWWW: Please stop
[14:26] <charlie-tca> You are not being helpful
[14:27] <WWWWWW> charlie-tca bruder? have you any problemz?
[14:27] <|Logitech|> lol
[14:28] <WWWWWW> szia tesokam
[14:28] <WWWWWW> pingvinbuzi party vanik?
[14:28] <charlie-tca> Xbuntu_Idiot: There is a lengthy bug report about the broadcom cards
[14:28] <charlie-tca> WWWWWW: please stop that
[14:29] <WWWWWW> charlie: please hush now! leave me alone!
[14:30] <charlie-tca> Xbuntu_Idiot: I'm looking for the report now
[14:30] <WWWWWW> try another linux like operation system bruder
[14:30] <charlie-tca> !ops
[14:31] <WWWWWW> the xubuntu distro contains a few dozens of bug
[14:32] <Xbuntu_Idiot> Thanks, charlie. :)
[14:32] <charlie-tca> Need help with www
[14:32] <charlie-tca> thanks, TheSheep
[14:32] <charlie-tca> I need to learn how to do that
[14:33] <Xbuntu_Idiot> I've tried a few forum solutions that didn't seem to work.  And I'm fairly new to linux distros as a whole., so that kind of compounds an otherwise problematic issue. :)
[14:33] <WWWWWW> The Holy Djihad started against the devil xubuntu
[14:34] <WWWWWW> Allah Akhbar
[14:34] <Xbuntu_Idiot> *swap out "otherwise" with a word that makes sense, like "already".
[14:34] <|Logitech|> xD
[14:37] <Xbuntu_Idiot> But yeah.  The problem with your distros getting more user-friendly is having people like me, who've barely run a command line and haven't used a text UI since the Apple II showing up and not knowing how to install a driver. :)
[14:38] <charlie-tca> Xbuntu_Idiot: yes
[14:39] <charlie-tca> No problem there. The issue appears to be with the broadcom card itself
[14:39] <charlie-tca> you can't do a ethernet connection, can you, (using a cable)?
[14:40] <Xbuntu_Idiot> I might be able to.
[14:41] <Xbuntu_Idiot> I haven't had to in a long time. :);;
[14:41] <charlie-tca> That would be a better solution that anything we can try with the wireless on that machine
[14:41] <charlie-tca> Which version of Xubuntu again?
[14:44] <Xbuntu_Idiot> I used UNEbootin to create a bootable USB pen drive.  It said "9.10_Live".  Fairly sure that's the version...:)
[14:45] <charlie-tca> That is. bug 404685
[14:45] <charlie-tca> tells me broadcom wireless drivers can't be installed in Karmic Koala; no fix yet
[14:46] <charlie-tca> I have over 50 bugs giving almost the same thing right now
[14:46] <Xbuntu_Idiot> Ah.  I just installed yesterday, so if there's a version I can install to make the card work I'd be fine switching. :)
[14:47] <charlie-tca> The problem is there are many versions of the broadcom card and drivers, which makes it very hard to determine what will work
[15:04] <gnomefreak> help :(
[15:46] <bld> does anybody know how to bind an application to a virtual desktop ?
[15:47] <bld> with xubuntu 9.04 I could define an entry like:   <application class="Firefox">
[15:47] <bld>                 <desktop>1</desktop>
[15:47] <bld>   </application>
[15:47] <bld> in the file ~/.config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml
[15:48] <bld> and firefox was started on the first desktop every time.
[15:48] <|Logitech|> you have openbox?
[15:48] <bld> with xubuntu 9.10 it doesn't work anymore.
[15:48] <bld> |Logitech|: don't know
[15:48] <|Logitech|> lol
[15:49] <bld> I installed xubuntu and copied my homedirectory
[15:49] <bld> were can I configure it ?
[15:53] <|Logitech|> i don't know
[15:53] <|Logitech|> i don't use karmic
[16:00] <MrNaz> xubuntu is coming along in leaps and bounds
[16:00] <MrNaz> but seriously guys, you have to get some screensavers that don't blow goats
[16:53] <thatfalguy> Can anyone tell me how to get rid of the background on icon text @ the desktop? I have searched and found "how to's" but they all point me to change something in a file that I can not find on my machine.
[16:54] <thatfalguy> .gtkrc-2.0 file it seems is not on my machine
[17:00] <likemindead> http://tuxradar.com/content/vista-windows-7-ubuntu-904-and-910-boot-speed-comparison
[17:03] <likemindead> Xubuntu is still faster. :-)
[17:18] <TubaraoSardinha> Hi all!
[17:19] <TubaraoSardinha> I just download and installed xubuntu 9.10 for the first time and I am noticing some odd behaviours...
[17:19] <TubaraoSardinha> When I open any window it covers the tom menu and misses the usual max/min/close buttons at the top left side of the screen...
[17:20] <TubaraoSardinha> At first I tought it must be some configuration under my existing user, then I created a new one and the problem perssisted.
[17:22] <TubaraoSardinha> Does anyone have similar problem or solution?
[18:11] <can-of-bees_> hi all. i'm trying a live CD (9.04) in an old iBook (real old) -- i keep getting a "The greeter application appears to be crashing..." error and i'm not seeing any applicable fixes to use with a live CD. does anyone have any suggestions?
[20:03] <Xubuntus> hI aGAIN!
[20:03] <Xubuntus> Back from fixing trouble. I found some new problems and new solutions.
[20:04] <Xubuntus> Oops. Sorry wrong channel.
[20:10] <Persona> hi
[20:10] <Persona> anybody with black screen on shutdown but not on restart???
[20:11] <Sysi> what do you mean?
[20:11] <Persona> I'll elaborate
[20:12] <Persona> when I shutdown koala with grafical tool, It stays on a black screen without actually shutting down
[20:12] <Persona> but with the same tool (graphical tool) it doesn't
[20:13] <Persona> it's somehow like when I had problems with Ati drivers, but then It was doing both things :S
[20:14] <Sysi> humm, that was happening in 8.04 and eeepc
[20:14] <Persona> no
[20:14] <Sysi> i mean also
[20:14] <Persona> sorrry
[20:14] <Persona> I took tthat as a question
[20:15] <Persona> that happend to me many times with radeon drivers but always both reboot and shutdown
[20:16] <Persona> and with jaunty it didn't happen
[20:23] <|Logitech|> i don't use karmic
[20:23] <|Logitech|> lol
[20:50] <oorah> i know if i type xkill in the terminal thats how to force quit applications, but there is no icon for that. where can i find it?
[20:51] <|Logitech|> oorah, /bin/kill
[20:52] <oorah> where do i type that?
[20:54] <|Logitech|> what you mean to do?
[20:55] <Sysi> that can be added to panel at least
[21:22] <dbdii407> Guys. I'm having some serious mouse problems
[21:23] <dbdii407> I can only click on the current active window and not anything else, at all
[21:23] <Persona> It hangs when shutting down
[21:23] <Persona> :(
[21:24] <Persona> not restarting
[21:24] <dbdii407> This was easily fixed in last release where I could just unplug the damn mouse and it would finally work. This doesn't apply to this current release
[21:25] <dbdii407> The release before that one, This problem didn't even exist.
[21:32] <dbdii407> Anyone have a way that they can help me?
[21:32] <dbdii407> The usual cnt+alt+tab doesn't show the windows anymore. :/
[22:57] <BeGu> it's bit hard to make a fresh install of ubuntu when the installation does not recognize my laptops keayboard nor touchpad
[22:58] <BeGu> by ubuntu I'm meaning xubuntu ofc
[22:58] <BeGu> :)
[23:10] <wbmj> Anyone having problems with the WM loading properly?
[23:17] <likemindead> Anyone having problems with people asking a question & then leaving thirty seconds later?
[23:18] <knome> likemindead, oh wait, that guy waited 3 minutes
[23:28] <Sysi> 3 minutes seems to be magical limit
[23:46] <pipboy> Hi there
[23:47] <pipboy> Can anyone tell me how to manually update samba? The new version is not in the repository yet
[23:47] <pipboy> I need 3.4.3 but Xubuntu 9.10 has 3.4.0 with no updates
[23:51] <Balsaq> up an running with linux mint!
[23:52] <Balsaq> hi knome
[23:52] <Sysi> what's different in mint to xubuntu?
[23:53] <Balsaq> well actually just now got online with mint...ley you know in a bit
[23:53] <Balsaq> i have ubub anf xubub too
[23:53] <Sysi> i may get centos
[23:53] <Balsaq> it installed in about 15 minutes with no real effort from me i can say that
[23:54] <Sysi> if kdm suck
[23:54] <Balsaq> i guess all the codecs and stuff are already installed in mint
[23:54] <Sysi> woah
[23:55] <knome> Balsaq, hoedy
[23:55] <knome> *e=w
[23:56] <Balsaq> mint look real nice knome
[23:56] <knome> i suppose linux mint takes a different attitude concerning things that are free or open, that's why they install propietary stuff by default
[23:57] <Balsaq> time for the youtube test....
[23:57] <Balsaq> well its online and i did nothingyup it works you tube with  effort from me!
[23:58] <Balsaq> no effort i meant
[23:58] <Balsaq> wow really nice distro
[23:59] <Sysi> fedora was/is nice
[23:59] <Sysi> if wifi just works in 12 without compiling driver