[00:56] _Techie_ i could make my pccard to work with debian, maybe it will work with xubuntu as i've learned how to do it, but debian installer is faster [00:57] replace "could" to "managed === [o_O] is now known as danopia` === rrmm is now known as rr72_ [01:20] <_Techie_> Devastator, yeah, i would presume it should work if you can get it to work in debian, i have a firmware patch on my laptop on my laptops wireless card that i got from a debian forum [01:21] _Techie_ with debian i didn't need to use boot parameters for install, but with xubuntu i need it or "kernel panic" :| [01:22] <_Techie_> it may be a different kernel [01:22] yep [01:23] 2.6.26 on debian [01:23] 2.6.31 on xubuntu 9.10 "karma" [01:52] <_Techie_> im gonna boot into windows so i can print off a file, i probably wont be back till i get home [01:52] <_Techie_> ill see you all tonight [01:53] ok [02:31] <_Techie_> im back but im gonna be playing some monkey island [04:10] Night [04:13] hi to all :) [04:41] hi @ channel [04:46] <_Techie_> hello visitor1 [04:50] hi all [04:51] hi _Techie_ [04:51] how are you? [05:06] <_Techie_> sorry visitor1 i would love to stay and chat but i gotta go [05:08] ok cu [06:33] hi [06:33] anyone know of a wallpaper of the lake and forest in jaunty? [06:51] alo!! [06:52] hi [06:52] hi. i'm new here [06:52] :) [06:52] i have an installation issue with xubuntu 9 [06:52] 9.10 [06:53] i'm triyng to install xubuntu on a box called dectop [06:53] cool [06:53] it's a minimal pc with a geode processor and 128mb in ram [06:54] lil light on the ram for umuntu my friend [06:54] but go for it [06:54] yeap, it's cool it uses less than 8 watt [06:54] i don/t want/need the gui [06:55] so, i will survive on level 3 [06:55] but my problem right now is [06:55] <_Techie_> jrochamtz, are you new to linux or just new to ubuntu? [06:56] well.... new here. i have been using linux for a while. but first with ubuntu [06:57] my problem is tha installation says there is no suitable kernel to install, if i want to continue without kernel [06:58] what am i doing wrong, the kernel must be a generic i386 or am i wrong? === wolf_pup is now known as wolf_pup-sleep [07:07] so... nobody had that issue before?? [07:19] hi [07:20] I was wondering if there is an x64 version of xubuntu 9.10 for intel architecture as I can't see it on the downloads? [07:54] ahhh...finally got a couple days off to spens in the lab! [07:54] spens=spens [07:54] spend.... [08:00] Huhu. [08:03] Welcome to the xu..... [08:05] hi | Balsaq [08:05] äh [08:05] !hi | Balsaq [08:05] Balsaq: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay! [08:11] hiya knome [08:11] was gettin some garbanzos! [08:11] what's those? [08:11] chic peas [08:12] gotta have em every os often [08:12] i am again ircing from bus [08:12] sorry to hear that knome [08:13] Balsaq, why? at least i have something to do [08:13] oh ok...what is ircing from bus? [08:14] wifi? [08:14] phone [08:14] wow [08:14] i am sitting at my basement deskto [08:15] :) [08:15] i am going to work [08:16] downsides in both [08:16] i hope you remember that cool terminal command you gave cause when my other coputer gets done updating i want to get the youtube vids going on it [08:16] just got off work here 3 hrs ago [08:16] sudu get-install non-free....something or othere/ [08:17] sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree [08:17] ahhhhhh [08:17] you are everything [08:18] heh [08:18] sorry. knome can i ask you a question? [08:18] jrochamtz, feel free to [08:18] :) thanks [08:19] i'm playing with a dektop. it's a small computer. it consumes less than 8 watt [08:19] it has a geode 300 mhz processor and 128 mb of ram [08:20] it runs ubuntu 8 without gui [08:20] 8.what? [08:20] i tried xubuntu 9.10 but it send an error something like there no suitable kernel to install [08:20] 8 watts [08:20] that's weird [08:21] so i was wondering if you have een something like that [08:22] i don't know why. it must be recognized as a x86 processor [08:22] are yo sure you have the x86 version? [08:22] yeap. absolutely [08:22] hmm [08:23] it's not the same error when you try to install a 64 bit os [08:23] it's older, right? [08:23] kind of [08:23] hmm [08:24] did you check the cd integrity [08:24] yeap it installs on my vmware [08:24] from the cd [08:24] bbl, maybe in 5-mins [08:25] ok [08:25] i hope you get that working [08:25] thanks [08:26] knome do you use xubuntu as your main OS? [08:40] <_Techie_> brb, gotta restart my media pc [08:48] jrochamtz: did you solve the problem already? [08:49] i'm working on it [08:49] okay [08:49] i saw i can switch to another terminal and run aptitud and install the missing packages manually [08:49] do you know another method? [08:49] ah, right [08:50] no, not really [08:50] so when you booted, it didn't find a kernel for you? [08:50] i though it happened install-time [08:50] yeap it was at install time [08:50] hmm, weird [08:51] but there is a page [08:51] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3444.html [08:51] ah, okay [08:52] i hope that helps [08:52] do you know another method? [08:55] no, i haven't had anything like that ever [08:56] but i think those instructions might very well work [08:56] i hope so [08:57] i need to save energy consumption [08:57] mm-hm [08:57] i understand [09:05] Hello [09:07] <__Techie_> hello mace^ were you asking earlier about changing a username? [09:13] <_Techie_> mace^, you there? [09:24] yes [09:24] well i made a new one user [09:24] <_Techie_> theres a much simpler way [09:24] but i have an error about adobe-flashplugin [09:24] <_Techie_> that doesnt involve recreating accounts [09:25] <_Techie_> man usermod [09:29] morning _Techie_ [09:29] <_Techie_> morning knome [09:30] <_Techie_> just for the books, its nighttime here [09:30] haha :) it's almost noon here also [09:32] <_Techie_> its 10:31 pm here [09:32] +13 [09:32] <_Techie_> 12 [09:32] <_Techie_> although i think were currently in daylight savings so yeah prolly 13 [09:33] que? i mean 10:31pm + 13 here so 11:31am :P [09:33] <_Techie_> more like -11 [09:34] where are you then? [09:34] <_Techie_> NZ, +12 hours GMT [09:34] ah [09:34] of course :P [09:34] then you are correct [09:34] we are +2 [09:35] <_Techie_> 10 hours behind us normally, 11 with daylight savings [09:41] <_Techie_> im gonna go to bed, night knome [09:41] night _Techie_ [09:42] actually we have DST too and then we are +3, so -9 with DST and -11 wihtout [09:42] O:) [09:51] knome_work it 450am here [09:51] Balsaq: X| [09:58] Balsaq: you need to sleep [09:59] got youtube on ubuntu...didnt even have to t=do the sudo? [09:59] :) [09:59] hey knome_work....you know i work full time don't ya? [10:00] Balsaq: full time == 24/7? [10:01] if you coun't my work in mybasement lab and my 2nd job as ski patrolll---well about 20 out of 24 yes [10:01] ... basement lab :P [10:01] but 5am is... 5am [10:01] thats what i like like to refer to it as...since i discovered xubuntu [10:02] ah hehe [10:02] well in that case i work more than 24 hours per day :P [10:02] but iswork 40-50 hrs a week too [10:02] (multitasking) [10:02] and in the winter i do 16-24 additional as ski patroller [10:02] ugh [10:03] kinda rushin too pay off my house...3 more years! [10:03] ah of course [10:03] then i will relax..... [10:03] lol [10:03] and drink lots of beer and rum? [10:04] well maybe after my workout is over? [10:04] maybe [10:04] i don't require much sleep [10:04] when i was younger, 3 hours was enough. now 6 hours is there and there [10:04] i worked 4-12 today at work and i have been working on my computers from 12 till now [10:05] my network here is really getting better all the time [10:05] oh, if you don't have to wake up early, then you can stay up until 5am :P [10:05] well iam off now for 2 days [10:05] but if you have to wake up at 7am, oh man ;) [10:06] better have some sleep before 5am ;D [10:06] well i'm still waiting for the weekend.. again [10:06] then i can do more work on my own projects [10:07] do you write OS's? [10:07] no, not really [10:07] you once said IT [10:07] yeah [10:07] i hope you are always aroung these channels [10:07] aroung=around [10:08] my friend is building his own OS [10:08] but that's a completely other story [10:08] i would love to do that [10:08] i'm mostly working with artwork stuff [10:08] and websites [10:08] oh cool [10:08] i want to have a website soon [10:08] lately i've been writing some useful wordpress plugins [10:09] wow that is really needed [10:09] yeah, we're going to use them ourselves [10:09] but i can see other people might use them as well [10:09] well what about all of us! [10:09] i just have to polish them before publishing [10:09] and ehm.. write some comments to my code :P [10:10] i wish ubuntu were orange....like a tangerine [10:10] instead of..whatever this color is [10:10] hmm [10:10] isn't the new ubuntu a bit more brigther/saturated? [10:10] *brighter [10:10] yeah huh [10:11] a bit too bright? ;) [10:11] no it need to be bright like the sun...but orange [10:11] what do you think it is now? [10:11] brown? :P [10:12] kinda brown [10:12] not sure what to make of it [10:12] okay [10:12] hehe [10:12] what color is it...i have it on one of those old fashioned monitors..the color is as good as my flat panels [10:13] is not as good i meant [10:13] beige? :P [10:13] gray? [10:13] sun burnt gray? [10:13] can't put a finger on it [10:13] taupe [10:13] right [10:14] xubuntu really has it all [10:14] heh, maybe soon you will have more [10:15] i have puppylinux, linuxmint, xubuntu,ubuntu, xp pro, w98..... [10:16] i have windows 95 installed in virtualbox ;) [10:16] works with internet and you can run red alert 2 with it [10:16] that would be cool, never saw that OS [10:16] it's much like a bad windows 98, but faster [10:17] i may buy w 2000 pro for fun...i see it on ebay for 10 dollars sometimes [10:17] hmm [10:17] i'd need a few of those [10:17] those dell only discs are cheap and i have lots of dells [10:17] non-oem versions, preferably [10:17] well on of these computers has a w2000 sticker [10:19] have you seen mint yet? [10:19] i'm not gonna use those os'es in actual computers, but in virtualbox [10:19] well, maybe one natively [10:19] i have seen shots of mint [10:19] see i don't actuallly even know what virtualbox is...will google it sometime [10:20] i like the green desktop with water drops [10:21] virtualbox is emulation software, so you can run an OS under an OS [10:21] many times techie or others give me instructions and they have no idea that i don't any even a clue as too what they are talking about [10:21] but i eventually find my way [10:21] will learn all this eventually [10:22] i ahve had a computer since 98 but never really paid much attention to it [10:22] a few days ago i installed FF from the command line without being initiially on the net [10:22] so i di without bbeing under IE at all [10:23] have you done that [10:24] you can start at the desktop in xp pro and not be on the internet at all...and do commands and tap into mozilla from the command line ad install it all on a black and white screen....hope its legal [10:24] no, haven't done that [10:24] it was fun [10:24] and it made it so it is not under the guise of IE at all [10:24] why would going to CLI and installing software be illegal? :P [10:24] i dunno...felt like a hack or something [10:25] like i snuck in the back door [10:26] that's how the experts usually do things [10:26] but then again i dunno what hack is or how to do one, but to me it reminded me of what a real hack looks like in my imagination [10:26] CLI is more powerful if you know how to use it [10:26] it felt powerful [10:27] Balsaq: so you work as a ski patrol? [10:27] well on the side yes [10:27] cool [10:27] that way i can ski all the resorts free and get paid [10:27] i live near 2 ski resorts [10:28] Balsaq: what part of the world? [10:28] see on my days off i ski anyway...so i amy as well patrol.....(new england) [10:28] usa [10:28] Berkshire Mountains [10:29] so northern us has good skiing cool [10:29] well they have massive snow making systems also [10:29] plus some years we get a ton of real snow also [10:29] it was long ago i went downhill [10:29] ill be skiing in a month... [10:29] it ens in early april [10:30] in fact over 10 years :( [10:30] wow i better be quiet if someone asks for tech help... [10:30] i've gone nordic skiing for 500 meters in my life [10:30] we've got some small peaks in northern sweden [10:30] never went downhill [10:30] sweden ahhh someday [10:30] Balsaq: then visit finland also ;) [10:31] in 3 years ill be able to ski in europe [10:31] i have skied colorado [10:31] finland yes [10:31] all of it [10:32] my brother in law has a home in France so i will ski chamonioux [10:32] we don't have that many hills and they are not that good [10:32] but we have a lot of open source developers ;) [10:32] but you can go ice fishing! [10:32] sure [10:32] i have don it [10:33] Balsaq: you said something about a basement lab [10:33] i haven't gone ice fishing [10:33] or what comes to that, i haven't even gone fishing ;) [10:33] yes since i discovered linux...i have been collecting computeres and OS's and my basement is now my lab [10:33] ah i see [10:34] i also have a fishing boat for fishing [10:34] i do some electronics development [10:34] i really enjoy sonar [10:34] fish is the only meat i eat [10:34] i want to learn about electronics [10:34] Balsaq: you can soon apply to be a server administrator for google ;D [10:34] yeah...axept i dont know anything about computeres! [10:35] (whew bad typing) [10:35] jrochamtz: buy a soldering iron and start playing [10:35] do i need to check for drive fragmentation in xubuntu? [10:36] mr_boo_ltp: no, fragmentation is not really a problem with the filesystems linux usually uses [10:36] i see [10:36] JAJAJAJAJJA [10:36] i ahve read the filesystem in linux is far superior to windows [10:36] i have read and i know it's not that simple [10:36] i know ext3 has special measures for defraggin itself [10:36] jrochamtz: ;) [10:37] but xubuntu uses ext2 right [10:37] the FS's in linux are written by murderers ;) [10:37] xubuntu uses ext4 [10:37] mr_boo_ltp: ext3 is ext2 with journaling [10:38] how can i tell what ext i put this xubuntu in? [10:38] i dont recall choosing [10:38] so xubuntu uses a more powerful file system than ubuntu? [10:38] mr_boo_ltp: no, ubuntu uses ext3 also [10:38] Balsaq: xubuntu uses ext3 by default (at least before karmic) [10:39] oh good [10:39] puppy is in sda1 i think/ [10:39] Balsaq: doesn't mount tell the fs type? [10:40] yes but when iwas done it shows a pic of HD and says something like ssda1 [10:40] sda1/dev/ [10:40] ? [10:41] that's the device id [10:41] i dont have it on now [10:41] sda1 points to specific device on your pc [10:41] and specific partition [10:41] but earlier in the install i think it did go in in 3 [10:41] but hs nothing to do with FS type [10:41] maybe [10:41] or 2 cant remeber [10:42] 'it runs fast on 400mgz 10 g hd 768sdram [10:42] since karmic, ext4 is used [10:42] o [10:42] itook me 2 days to ge that one going [10:42] evertime i would tell it to do something it would ask me 10 questions? [10:42] but if you have upgraded, the FS's are not updated because (if i am correct) you can't updgrade from ext3 to ext4 without losing data) [10:43] -) [10:43] Balsaq: hmm? :) [10:43] and i knew NONe of the answersto this day it wont go online inless i take it too the desktop with the cd? [10:43] puppy is really wierd [10:43] right, puppy [10:44] well, it's an OS for advanced users [10:44] with advanced i really mean advanced [10:44] not like "anything but newbies" [10:44] got it in there though,,,even plays utube [10:44] yep :) [10:44] nightmare.... [10:44] hehe [10:45] now i get it [10:45] i just have to learn to make it go online without the dadgummed cd? [10:45] after i get to the desk i can pull the cd out and it goes online that way [10:45] you mean puppy? i don't know [10:46] yeah puppy [10:46] you have to install the drivers and do a correct network setup [10:46] ill figure it oute ventually [10:46] by hand, mostly, i think [10:46] oh yea every piece of it [10:46] i am pretty far along wth it now [10:46] yeah [10:47] but you know, that's the idea of puppy [10:47] ubuntu is meant to be easy [10:47] really its the besy ubu and xu [10:47] besy = best [10:47] with puppy you can do everything like you want, but it's not that easy [10:47] too much tooling around with puppy [10:48] i have to agree [10:48] glad i did it now, learned a lot [10:48] even if you could get your system a bit more effective [10:48] i don't need to play with custom packages and that kind of development so i don't need it [10:49] gets old [10:49] many of the xfce developers use puppy because it's so customisable [10:49] like xfce as a DE ;) [10:49] if could only have 2 it would be xubuntu and xp pro [10:50] if i only could have two, ... oh wait, i only use xubuntu already [10:50] ;) [10:50] have to go now [10:50] see you later and have a nice day [10:50] ok see ya [10:50] thanks for all the help [10:50] np :) [10:52] i have also been wondring about defrag [10:52] in buntu [10:52] i dont do any maintenance on linux? [11:00] who knows how can i boot on cli automtically [11:00] i mean init 3 [11:03] hey [11:03] whats this [11:20] Balsaq, you don't have to worry about defrag too much in linux. Maybe over the course of many years you do. [11:20] in ext4 there is a defragger, but not in ext3 filesystem. [11:24] jrochamtz, you need to pass those paramaters to your kernel upon boot. [11:31] HOZSANNA NEKTEK DICSOSEGES TESVEREIM [11:32] VADVIKTOR TESVER UDV [11:33] oh god :) [11:34] PACSI TESO [11:34] hoi :) [11:34] Hozsanna neked [11:34] !en [11:34] The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat [11:35] Sysi: Hush now baby, dont you cry! [11:35] azaz a pofadat befogod hulye ribanc [11:35] or am i just bad with some slang :P [11:35] welcome on my ignore list... [11:36] Actually I do understand him, but his attitude, well, needs to be polished [11:37] Ah Sysi dearest, I have much slang to you:D [11:38] what language is that? [11:38]