=== vorian is now known as v === v is now known as vorian === agateau is now known as agateau|lunch === agateau|lunch is now known as agateau === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic === jwisser_ is now known as jwisser === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic [19:37] so, i'm still confused about the messaging menu. What determines if an application shows up there? [19:38] evolution/empathy/gwibber/pidgin seem to just be there permanently, even the ones i don't use, just because they're installed. gm-notify only shows up when its running which seems like the right behavior... [19:38] is there a way to remove things from the menu if i don't want them there? [19:39] ie, an app that's installed for another user, but that I don't actually use at all? [19:40] also, is there any visual indication from indicator-applet that an application isn't running? Evolution's always in there, but it seems like the menu only does anything if the evolution UI is open, which is confusing. [20:04] atrus: You can remove things by putting them in the blacklist directory if you'd like. [20:04] atrus: Applications that show up there are those who have been ported to use the libindicate library. [20:04] atrus: gm-notify should put it self as a launcher there, but it hasn't yet. [20:05] atrus: Not having a large difference between running and not running is a design goal in that you can go to a menu to find the application no matter what the state of it is. [20:06] tedg: okay, so looking at evolution for example, how do i tell from looking at the menu whether evolution is actually checking mail for me? [20:07] it shows up in the menu regardless of whether it's checking mail (apparently). [20:07] atrus: It will have your mailboxes listed below it, and not have a description if it is not running. [20:08] Sorry. Description == not running. Mailboxes == running. [20:08] that seems somewhat non-intuitive. [21:13] Hi there. Does anyone have Celeste Lyn Paul's email by chance? [21:13] SiDi: Should be in her Launchpad profile or you can contact her via Launchpad. [21:14] ScottK: do you have her LP username then please? :) [21:14] SiDi: I'd guess seele (her IRC Nick), but if not LP search on that should turn it up. [21:15] oh, found her on google. Thanks [22:53] tedg: so, where is this blacklist directory? or did that make karmic/karmic-proposed yet? [22:54] atrus: ~/.config/indicators/messages/application-blacklist If you want you can just do "mkdir -p ~/.config/indicators/messages/application-blacklist ; cp /usr/share/indicators/messages/applications/* /usr/share/indicators/messages/applications/" [22:56] Sorry, the second directory in the cp should be the blacklist one. [22:56] Copy-and-paste error. [22:56] hmm. [22:57] so, i did "mkdir -p ~/.config/indicators/messages/application-blacklist; cp /usr/share/indicators/messages/applications/evolution ~/.config/indicators/messages/application-blacklist", and then removed/re-added the indicator applet, but evolution still shows up in there. [22:58] Sorry, it should be "applications-blacklist" instead of "application-blacklist" [22:59] "mkdir -p ~/.config/indicators/messages/applications-blacklist; cp /usr/share/indicators/messages/applications/evolution ~/.config/indicators/messages/applications-blacklist" [22:59] and evolution still shows up. [23:07] Hmm... that's unexpected.... [23:08] I need to go and make dinner. But probably the best thing to do is kill indicator-messages-service and then run it in a terminal. It'll output lots of fun information about what it's thinking. [23:14] tedg: so it does report finding the blacklist item, but it also reports "Found file: evolution" twice... [23:16] oh.