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| cprofitt | anyone home to assist me getting something reported properly | 02:20 |
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| micahg | sure cprofitt | 02:22 |
| cprofitt | thanks micahg | 02:23 |
| * micahg can try | 02:23 | |
| cprofitt | the issue is with the OSD and function of volume controls on Lenovo laptops | 02:23 |
| cprofitt | I have a T42p, T61p and T500 | 02:23 |
| * micahg hides | 02:23 | |
| cprofitt | the T42p and T61p work as expected | 02:23 |
| cprofitt | the T500 'mute' button shows no OSD and only works to 'mute' the sound. | 02:23 |
| Pici | bug 357673 | 02:24 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 357673 in hotkey-setup "No notification when sliding audio volume, muting volume on ThinkPad X31, X32, X41, X60, T22, T40, T42, T60, R50e, R51, R52" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/357673 | 02:24 |
| micahg | thanks pici | 02:24 |
| cprofitt | Thanks Pici I was searching all over that bug... and could not find it | 02:24 |
| Pici | cprofitt: I'm subscribed to it, so I just was digging in my inbox for it | 02:25 |
| cprofitt | With 9.04 is didn't work on the T61p or the T500 | 02:25 |
| cprofitt | so we have made progress :-) | 02:25 |
| MsMaco | i think its because thats done in hardware, not in the OS | 02:26 |
| cprofitt | MsMaco, that would not explain the difference in the T61p to the T500 would it? | 02:27 |
| cprofitt | with 9.04 the T61p did not work either... now it does | 02:27 |
| MsMaco | *shrug* | 02:27 |
| MsMaco | perhaps there was some blacklist/whitelist magic introduced at some point | 02:27 |
| cprofitt | it is the same thing I was told in April... but I doubt the T61p changed how it worked... | 02:27 |
| cprofitt | so it would appear to be software | 02:27 |
| cprofitt | :-) | 02:27 |
| MsMaco | i just remember hearing about thinkpads that did stuff in hardware....and then itd be repeated in software...and youd get like 1 notification and 2 vol changes or something | 02:28 |
| MsMaco | or have the OS not handle it...and you get no notificaitons but only 1 sound change | 02:28 |
| cprofitt | yeah... I am just looking for the behavior to be the same for different models | 02:30 |
| wcGary83 | Does anybody know a master bug (it seems like tons of people are having this problem) bug 463396 | 03:08 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 463396 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[GM45] No monitor output on laptop" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/463396 | 03:08 |
| wcGary83 | I can't find anything that matches on launchpad, but maybe someone knows more? | 03:09 |
| wcGary83 | This is a bug i filed, but to track progress or a fix I figured there would be one already filed... | 03:10 |
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| LimCore | hi, what happened to quiteinsane O_o | 11:58 |
| LimCore | it seems to be... removed from ubuntu 9.10? | 11:58 |
| MsMaco | *shrug* maybe it was unmaintained | 12:00 |
| james_w | bug 450400 | 12:00 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 450400 in quiteinsane "Request for removal from archive (binary and source)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/450400 | 12:00 |
| * james_w waves to MsMaco | 12:00 | |
| MsMaco | o/ | 12:01 |
| * LimCore wonders why MsMaco shrugs | 12:04 | |
| MsMaco | because i dont know for sure and was making a guess | 12:06 |
| LimCore | but avarage user will just think "hey wtf why I can not scan my images now and I need this done in 5 minutes" | 12:06 |
| LimCore | well I found I need to use gimp / plugin, but newbie user could be very dissapointed | 12:07 |
| MsMaco | or xsane, which is also included? | 12:07 |
| LimCore | hmm | 12:07 |
| MsMaco | actually, AFAIK, kubuntu doesnt include anything for scanning | 12:07 |
| MsMaco | i always install xsane from gnome | 12:08 |
| LimCore | right, or xsane | 12:08 |
| LimCore | can we provide some way of telling users that tries to install/run quiteinsane, that he should now use xsane instead? | 12:08 |
| LimCore | like, a proxy program that will just display such information | 12:09 |
| MsMaco | xsane is in the menu as "XSane Scanner" or something, right? | 12:10 |
| MsMaco | since upgrade will remove quiteinsane as obsolete, XSane would be the only option in the menu | 12:10 |
| MsMaco | so wouldnt it become obvious what to use? | 12:10 |
| LimCore | I was just going to use quiteinsane as I did 2 days ago before upgrade - and seeing it is not installed is not best when I have like 10 minutes to get something scanned ;) It was not very bad either, but we could make it better for users used to old version/name of app I think | 12:11 |
| jpds | LimCore: No, we can't really provide a way. | 12:15 |
| jpds | But if they upgraded, the installed binaries shouldn't have been removed unless another package conflicts on the quiteinsane package. | 12:15 |
| MsMaco | upgrades offer to remove obsolete packages | 12:16 |
| LimCore | it would seem that for me it got removed, I think upgrade dialog warned about this | 12:16 |
| LimCore | yes | 12:16 |
| MsMaco | it asks if you want to remove obsolete packages | 12:17 |
| MsMaco | you have teh option of saying no | 12:17 |
| jpds | MsMaco: What does? | 12:17 |
| MsMaco | jpds: update-manager | 12:17 |
| jpds | Oh, right, I never use that. | 12:17 |
| MsMaco | it throws up a "these packages are obsolete. should i remove them? yes/no" window | 12:17 |
| jpds | LimCore: In that case, the user should know what they're doing by click "yes". | 12:18 |
| LimCore | well its ok by me ;) | 12:18 |
| LimCore | if you sure this is user friendly (newbies friendly) enought then no need to provide proxy; othersie I would do it | 12:19 |
| M1Tn1Ck | hy | 12:52 |
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| bullgard4 | '~$ ubuntu-bug empathy': "The problem cannot be reported. This is not a genuine Ubuntu package." Was ist ein 'genuine Ubuntu package'? | 14:48 |
| tEtra | greets all | 14:51 |
| tEtra | pre-bug filing, thought I'd throw this out there: | 14:52 |
| tEtra | isc's dhcp3-server package on 9.10 appears to no longer understand/recognize the group {} directive. | 14:53 |
| tEtra | I copied a config from 9.04, and none of my hosts config'd within were being setup. | 14:54 |
| pedro_ | bullgard4, works fine here, did you installed empathy from the PPA? that might be the issue. | 14:54 |
| tEtra | hrm? | 14:54 |
| tEtra | nvrmnd | 14:55 |
| tEtra | removing the group 'tags' and it's working. Anyone else see this behavior? | 14:56 |
| bullgard4 | pedro_: I have installed the package from an "advanced" Ubuntu repository. It is version 2.28.1.1. | 14:56 |
| hggdh | bullgard4: this may happen if your repositories do not carry empathy anymore (or if empathy came from a PPA) | 15:03 |
| bddebian | Boo | 15:07 |
| ioneye | sdcad | 15:22 |
| ioneye | soz | 15:22 |
| matti | ;] | 15:36 |
| jcastro | bdmurray, the U1 team would like a session at UDS on techniques for handling bugs for lots of upstream projects and working with the platform team. | 16:22 |
| jcastro | bdmurray, I think I can handle most of it but would need your expertise at some point | 16:22 |
| bdmurray | jcastro: no problem just let me know what its called | 16:44 |
| bullgard4 | hggdh: I think I asserted Synaptic > Settings > Repositories > (Software Sources) > Updates > Prereleased updates (karmic-proposed), downloaded Empathy 2.28.1.1 (because the regular Karmic version would not work on my computer) and then deasserted this repository. Is this reason enough for: "This is not a genuine Ubuntu package"? | 16:46 |
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| hggdh | bullgard4: no, it is not. Can you run 'apt-cache policy empathy', and pastebin the output here? | 17:06 |
| bullgard4 | hggdh: ~$ apt-cache policy empathy; empathy: Installed: 2.28.1.1-0ubuntu1; Candidate: 2.28.1.1-0ubuntu1; Version table: *** 2.28.1.1-0ubuntu1 0; 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status; 2.28.1-1ubuntu1 0; 500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages' | 17:09 |
| hggdh | this is weird... indeed you are using a kosher empathy. OK, next try: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list | 17:10 |
| hggdh | !pastebin | 17:10 |
| ubot4 | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic | 17:10 |
| bullgard4 | http://pastebin.ca/1656916 | 17:14 |
| hggdh | bullgard4: we will have to check with the apport developer. I cannot see a reason for this error | 17:21 |
| hggdh | bullgard4: I have just been told that empathy is indeed breaking on Karmic | 17:21 |
| seb128 | wait, I'm checking | 17:22 |
| hggdh | heh. Seems I jumped the gun here, sorry | 17:23 |
| bullgard4 | What does the phrase: "I jumped the gun" mean? to trigger an avalanche? | 17:24 |
| seb128 | no, to speak too quickly | 17:24 |
| seb128 | I really have a local empathy install | 17:24 |
| hggdh | bullgard4: no, it means I stated something too soon | 17:24 |
| seb128 | ok, works now | 17:25 |
| seb128 | I can confirm sorry guys | 17:25 |
| seb128 | can't | 17:25 |
| seb128 | oh, I know | 17:27 |
| seb128 | bullgard4, you have installed the karmic-proposed version but don't have karmic-proposed in your sources | 17:27 |
| seb128 | the apt-cache policy doesn't list an official source for your version | 17:28 |
| seb128 | so it looks similar to a local install to apport there | 17:28 |
| seb128 | hggdh, ^ | 17:28 |
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| hggdh | ah | 17:48 |
| hggdh | bullgard4: please add the -proposed sources, run 'sudo apt-get update', and try again ubuntu-bug | 17:49 |
| bullgard4 | hggdh: I have done so. I have been able to launch a bug report. -- Thank you very much for your help. | 17:52 |
| hggdh | bullgard4: welcome -- and thanks go to seb128... I should have seen it | 17:52 |
| lucka01 | Hello there :) | 18:15 |
| jokrebel | am i right here with a problem that other people have the same one with the same dvb-t-usb-card also like me since upgrading vrom 9.04 to 9.10? | 18:18 |
| lucka01 | I came from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs I'm in a dilema. When on launchpad trying to click on a report a bug it forwards me on the link I added. Hum why is that? I'm trying to report a but that is not a package related at lest I'm not awere of it. CDROM won't work. When I put in a CD/DVD it won't recognize it. Also when I'm trying to eject it I have to press the eject button a couple of times. Another problem is brightness. When tryi | 18:18 |
| mvo | bdmurray: I verified the fix for bug #465619 and set the tag to verifciation-done | 18:30 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 465619 in apport "apport enabled after a distribution upgrade from Jaunty to Karmic" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/465619 | 18:30 |
| bdmurray | mvo: fantastic thanks! | 18:42 |
| cmeiklejohn | hello | 18:43 |
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| jcastro | bdmurray, are you going to have a session on bugcontrol? | 21:50 |
| jcastro | bdmurray, you mentioned wanting to get more participation, etc. | 21:50 |
| bdmurray | jcastro: at uds? | 21:50 |
| jcastro | yeah | 21:51 |
| bdmurray | I haven't thought about that in particular much | 21:53 |
| micahg | bdmurray: are we meeting next week? | 22:01 |
| bdmurray | micahg: yes, that sounds good | 22:02 |
| micahg | ok | 22:02 |
| micahg | bdmurray: does there need to be an official announcement? | 22:03 |
| bdmurray | micahg: yes, I think there should be one | 22:03 |
| micahg | bdmurray: PM? | 22:03 |
| bdmurray | hmm? | 22:04 |
| micahg | other topic | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | bouas noutes | 22:29 |
| DMMN | hi!! | 22:35 |
| mjw99 | Can anyone help with this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/465849 . I really can't use the network on my laptop since I upgraded to 9.10 because of this. | 22:55 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 465849 in network-manager-applet "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in utils_connection_valid_for_device()" [Undecided,New] | 22:55 |
| BUGabundo | mjw99: $ nm-applet | 22:55 |
| BUGabundo | yeah it's a stuppid acertion bug | 22:56 |
| BUGabundo | nagg asac about it :p | 22:56 |
| mjw99 | Who (or what) is asac? | 22:56 |
| BUGabundo | mjw99: he is no here right now. asac is the person in charge of the NM packages | 22:56 |
| BUGabundo | try #ubuntu-mozillateam. he is usually around there | 22:57 |
| mjw99 | ok; thanks | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | but he is offline there too | 22:57 |
| mjw99 | out of interest, is there any mechanism to roll back to 9.04? | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | nope | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | only *clean* install | 22:58 |
| mjw99 | ok. | 22:58 |
| mjw99 | I had been trying every iteration of the live cd out on this laptop prior to upgrading 9.04 on the hardrive to 9.10; I had no issues with the live CDs, hence I assumed it would be fine to upgrade | 22:59 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 23:01 |
| BUGabundo | cool | 23:01 |
| BUGabundo | so what went wrong? | 23:01 |
| mjw99 | This bug that I refer to now.. | 23:02 |
| BUGabundo | that's not even a *serious* bug | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | just a stupid race condition or something | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | easilly worked around by restarting the applet | 23:05 |
| mjw99 | tried that; when I left click on it, it crashes again | 23:05 |
| joaopinto | BUGabundo, an application crashing randomlys is not serious ? specially the network manager :) ? | 23:06 |
| joaopinto | randomly | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | its not NM that crashes | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | from what I recall when I got hit 2 time with that | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | its just nm-applet | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | start it over, and you are good to go until next reboot | 23:07 |
| mjw99 | yes; it's nm-applet crashing. | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | the bug is filed, prob the cause is know (I reported it before release too) | 23:07 |
| mjw99 | BUGabundo; If I left click on it, it crashes and I need to restart it. As a result, it makes logging on to new wireless networks very hard; one has to resort to the command line. I would count this bug as quite problematic to a standard user. | 23:09 |
| BUGabundo | how are you restartting it? | 23:11 |
| BUGabundo | on a cli? by just doing $ nm-applet? | 23:11 |
| mjw99 | command line from a terminal window | 23:11 |
| BUGabundo | the bug I had was with | 23:11 |
| BUGabundo | a bad dectecion of a wireless network | 23:11 |
| BUGabundo | try the version on PPA | 23:11 |
| mjw99 | I don't really have any more time to spend on this one... it's already sucked up a lot since this is my primary laptop. | 23:12 |
| BUGabundo | that's why I'm recommending you to try a PPA version | 23:13 |
| BUGabundo | that I _think_ has that fixed | 23:13 |
| mjw99 | Maybe I'll come back to that one if I have some more time, I cannot expend any more on this one, it was cumbersome enough to ensure that I had sanitized the bug report prior to making it public. The bug has been reported and it is the launchpad database... the rest is over to the devs. | 23:16 |
| mjw99 | I appreciated your advice on this one and I thank you again for conversing and responding to my questions. | 23:17 |
| mjw99 | laters | 23:17 |
| joaopinto | BUGabundo, not very friendly on your part | 23:22 |
| BUGabundo | joaopinto: I'm providing a way to fix it until repos get it fixed for him | 23:24 |
| BUGabundo | if that is not friendly, well Im not sure on how to help more | 23:25 |
| joaopinto | BUGabundo, I am not sure how minimizing the bug importance to the user helps :) | 23:28 |
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