[05:15] <Jordan_U> freelolo in #ubuntu is spamming
[05:17] <nalioth> Jordan_U: i believe he's gone.  was there anything else?
[05:17] <Jordan_U> nalioth: no
[06:49]  * mneptok jumps up and down on jussio1 
[06:51] <jussio1> stupid core...
[06:54]  * jussio1 grumbles...
[07:03] <jussio1> I hate windows
[07:04] <wgrant> jussio1: That's what it's there for.
[07:15] <eviljussi01> mneptok: were you after me?
[07:21] <mneptok> eviljussi01: working on the UOW stuff
[07:22] <mneptok> should have something for yu to look at in ~30m or so (i hope)
[07:22] <eviljussi01> mneptok: ok. Im heading into my thesis seminar in about 30 mins, so Ill see you on the other side...
[07:22]  * eviljussi01 takes a deep breath
[07:27] <dholbach> good morning
[07:27] <eviljussi01> good morning dholbach
[07:28] <dholbach> hi eviljussi01
[07:35] <mneptok> dholbach: moin!
[07:36] <dholbach> hi mneptok
[07:36] <mneptok> @login
[07:37] <mneptok> hrm.
[10:16] <bazhang> avash is a known entity
[10:16] <MenZa> Troll ring, or just stupidity influx?
[10:17] <bazhang> troll
[10:17] <MenZa> figured
[10:26] <jpds> Dear Freenode, please fix the netsplits.
[10:27] <MenZa> Love, an annoyed user.
[10:50] <elky> this is getting really. really. really old.
[10:57] <elky> wow... been a whole 6 minutes...
[10:57]  * elky taps the wooden table
[10:59]  * jussio1 sighs..
[10:59] <elky> apparently some people missed the memo, so this is just a reminder. dholbach is here representing the CC for a while, just to get a real-time look at things are going on the front-line and keep in touch with what we as ops face on a daily basis.
[11:03] <jussio1> fdoving: could you please identify?
[11:05] <niko> you should look at #ubuntu
[11:05] <Slart> hmm.. a small situation in #ubuntu
[11:05] <Slart> if anyone has the ban-hammer nearby
[11:10] <bazhang> yikes. this started right after I joined
[11:14]  * elky looks at -ot and panics
[11:14] <elky> please. no. do not combine those forces.
[11:14]  * jpds gives elky a copy of the HHGttG.
[11:15] <elky> it's the office bible. i'm supposed to read it some time in the past 18mths
[11:24] <jpds> Err.
[11:25] <bazhang> ah usuario
[11:25] <jpds> They seem to all have come from Barbados.
[11:25] <jussio1> tsimpson: can I please get an invite to #kubuntu-ops-monitor ;)
[11:26] <jussio1> jpds: barbaDOS?
[11:26] <bazhang> he speaks English fine
[11:26] <jpds> jussio1: The bot in #ubuntu.
[11:27] <jpds> bots*
[11:30] <bazhang> he got told the -es channel many many times, plus he speaks english perfectly well eeE = usuario
[16:45] <tsimpson> jussio1: you could just /cs invite #kubuntu-ops-monitor, but I set a +I for you
[17:29] <jussio1> mneptok: I havent seen something from you yet? could you send it please?
[18:02] <mneptok> jussio1: i ended up going to bed. on a weekly call now. i'll finish my part of the presentation today. where shall i e-mail it?
[18:13] <gnomefreak> can someone please open +1
[18:14] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: when UDS starts
[18:14] <jussio1> mneptok: jussi01 at ubuntu
[18:14] <gnomefreak> ok
[18:15] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: its open for syncs and merges atm so i figured its a good idea
[18:15] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: yeah but it's not got anything interesting yet
[18:15] <gnomefreak> its just toolchain for most part
[18:16] <Amaranth> toolchain, kernel, a few automatic syncs
[18:17] <Amaranth> and the changes that went into SRUs for karmic
[18:17] <Amaranth> actually maybe no syncs yet, just the SRU changes
[18:17] <gnomefreak> right
[19:30] <Pici> Mamarok: You snipped off the 'ircguidelines' part of the topic in #k
[19:31] <Mamarok> did I? It showed correctly, maybe the topic is too long now
[19:32] <Pici> Somehow you added just enough to get rid of '/IrcGuidelines'
[19:33] <Mamarok> seems so, correcting now
[19:34] <Mamarok> thx for spotting it
[19:51] <Pici> gnomefreak is causing all the netsplits
[19:52] <gnomefreak> having issues here
[19:54] <gnomefreak> ok one more time
[19:54] <Pici> gnomefreak: Whats the issue you're having?
[19:55] <gnomefreak> its fixed. my irssi/config was messed up
[19:55] <gnomefreak> its fixed now
[19:56] <gnomefreak> i removed a line i shouldnt have trying to fill in my #3 slot since +1 closed but my curser was way too far down
[20:12] <Amaranth> Pici: maybe (better to discuss here)
[20:12] <Pici> Amaranth: Agreed.
[20:12] <Amaranth> Pici: ubuntu tweak seems to do useful non-destructive things but the package stuff is just... fail
[20:14] <Amaranth> It's pulling stuff in from 3rd party PPAs :/
[20:15] <Amaranth> now, I can think of some ways to do that sanely assuming the person handling the packaging is competent but I bet he doesn't check that (or even know how to check that)
[20:16] <Amaranth> so long as nothing in one PPA depends on something in another you can even use ppa-purge to handle it
[20:17] <Pici> looking at the source now.
[20:21] <Pici> oh dear./
[20:21] <Flannel> Pici: what?
[20:22] <Amaranth> please no --assume-yes
[20:23] <Pici> cmd = ['/usr/sbin/synaptic', '--hide-main-window', '--non-interactive','--parent-window-id', '%s' % (window_id),'--update-at-startup'] then subprocess.call(cmd)
[20:24] <Pici> Certainly an interesting way to update after making sources.list changes.
[20:25] <Flannel> GUIs are the way of the future!
[20:25] <Amaranth> Pici: eh? he probably copy/pasted that from update-manager
[20:26] <Amaranth> wait, so ubuntu-tweak runs as root then?
[20:28] <Pici> Well, I didn't paste that exactly since it was on multiple lines.
[20:28] <Pici> Theres something there for checking if uid or gid (forget which, I'm looking at a different file now) is 0 and if not it prepends the command with gksu
[20:29] <Amaranth> oh, cool
[20:29] <Amaranth> that part looks fine then
[21:11] <LjL> hey, the #u topic should probably amended to remove -r-p which is not there anymore
[21:12] <Pici> sorry jussio1
[21:12] <jussio1> hehe
[21:58] <ikonia> collegues, what are you thoughts on muting #ubuntu-classroom-chat when the clasroom is not in use ? latley it appears to be another version of #u-offtopic ?
[21:59] <nalioth> wfm
[22:01] <ikonia> if you think it's not too agreesive, I'll mail the council to get thoughts
[22:01] <ikonia> didn't know if it seemed a bit too harsh, just don't see the point of allowing random chatter in there with little moderation
[22:02] <Flannel> I don't think anyone would have a problem with it on the off-hours.
[22:03] <ikonia> I shall suggest
[22:05] <Pricey> I don't see the point in preventing chatter there when there's nothing else going on.
[22:05] <Pricey> They could go to #ubuntu-classroom-chat-other
[22:06] <ikonia> Pricey: I thought that was what offtopic was for ?
[22:06] <nalioth> Pricey: because there's no ops watching?
[22:06] <ikonia> nalioth: a few dubious conversations of late
[22:06] <ikonia> or tickling the limit
[22:09] <Pricey> If there are issues then deal with it I guess.
[22:11] <ikonia> nothing major, but with a lack of moderation around, it just seemed like a potential move
[22:11] <ikonia> thought I'd sound you people out
[22:12] <Pricey> Shutting down a channel doesn't solve the real issue though imo.
[22:16] <ikonia> redirect to offtopic themn ?
[22:17] <nalioth> i think +mz would be fine during non-scheduled sessions
[23:53] <nhandler> I would also suggest talking with Jorge and/or Amber. IIRC, they had a discussion about what should happen in those channels when a session is not going on