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Reepicheepdeizel: do you notice any other apps not working on it?00:01
iarpif you didn't make any customizations to screen, you could try purging screen rather then remove, and then reinstalling00:02
jetoledoes anyone know a good linux load balancer?00:03
Reepicheepjetole: we use LVM00:03
jetoleaside from LVM?00:03
Reepicheepwell fine then.. :-p00:03
jpdsjetole: ipvsadm ?00:04
jetoleI am load balancing windows servers00:04
jetolethanks jpds00:04
Reepicheepipvsadm is lvm00:04
jetoleoh00:04
deizelReepicheep: well its primarily a webserver, but all the webapps seem to work (apache2/php/mysql), and irsii, and quassel00:04
jetolewait00:04
jpdsReepicheep: I thought LVM was... The Linux Logical Volume Manager ?00:04
jetoleisn't lvm the disk manager00:04
jetoleright00:04
jetolelol00:04
iarpphew... i thought i was loosing my mind when you said lvm00:05
jetoleLVS?00:05
Reepicheepjetole: sorry its actually lvs.. yeah00:05
jetoleis that it?00:05
Reepicheepopps my bad00:05
jetoleyeah, ok lol, I thought LVS too when you said LVM00:05
jetolethen I thought about it and "... wait a sec. Thats not right"00:05
Reepicheepipvsadm = LVS Linux Virtual Server00:05
jetoleso what about a load balancer that isn't LVS?00:06
ReepicheepI didn't even notice it .. I just type some times and don't think00:06
Reepicheepwell fine then ;-p00:06
jetoleseriously, I'm not load balancing just linux boxen00:06
jetolebrb, need to turn the AC cooler00:07
deizlokay, i purged and reinstalled.. but i can't choose a session because of this message "/usr/bin/select-screen-profile: 176: cannot create /dev/null: Perm"00:07
deizlsession=profile00:07
deizlthat last bit says Permission Denied00:08
Reepicheepdeizl: try purging like iarp suggested.. make sure that you remove the ~/.screen files and directories also make sure that /etc/screenrc doesn't exist00:08
jetoledeizl: no idea what you are trying to do but do you have a /dev/null with rwx for everyone00:08
jetole?00:08
deizljetole: 2899622093 crw-------  1 root   root    1,   3 Aug  5 19:06 null00:09
Reepicheepjetole: what are you trying to load balance?00:09
jetoledeizl: thats wrong00:09
deizlwtf00:10
jetolesudo deizl: chmod 666 /dev/null00:10
jetoledeizl: null needs to be read/write by everyone00:10
jetole!00:10
jetoleReepicheep: http/https00:10
Reepicheepjetole: you use apache?00:10
Reepicheepif so you could use the proxy_balancer00:11
jetoleReepicheep: and if a http server goes down?00:11
jetolewill proxy_balancer route around it?00:11
Reepicheepyeah.. HA would have to be handled elsewhere00:11
jetoleah00:11
jetolecrap00:11
jetolethat sounded good00:11
Reepicheepjetole: I'm not sure how it handles failures .. now I curious00:12
Reepicheepbtw.. we do do that very thing with LVS..00:12
jetoleyeah I am looking it up now00:12
jetoleWINDOWS!!!!!00:13
deizlyay it work, thanks guys00:13
jetole:P00:13
jetoledeizl: np00:13
jetolenow figure out why it was wrong in the first place00:13
deizlhow would my /dev/null permissions have changed.. i swear i never touched that00:13
jetolethat is a very important perm00:13
jetolesomething has00:13
jetolenothing is designed to00:13
jetoleno software should have changed that without you clicking the wrong button00:13
jetolelike I said, thats an important perm00:14
Reepicheepjetole: so the web server is a windows box?00:14
deizli installed this today.. sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev libqt4-sql-psql00:14
deizlit had a lot of dependencies..00:14
jetoleReepicheep: some, it's actually a cluster of servers00:14
jetoledeizl: no!00:15
jetolenothing, and I mean NOTHING does it by default00:15
deizli hear you00:15
jetoleno software even has that option00:15
Reepicheepjetole: well that shouldn't eliminate LVS if you need00:15
jetolesomething has to manually be done to change it00:15
jetoleReepicheep: I can use LVS to load balance a windows server?00:16
jetoleI'm looking at haproxy now00:16
jetolehttp://haproxy.1wt.eu/00:16
jetolejust something that came up in google00:16
deizlthis is a bit over my head tbh.. it wasn't me, so either my server is compromised, or my hosts vps software does some stuff when i restart00:16
jetolewhat is VPS?00:17
Reepicheepjetole: .. you should be able to put a LVS directory in front of any web server .. regardless of what it is00:17
ReepicheepVPS = Virtual Private Server00:17
jetolehmmm, so I guess I should read up more on LVS00:17
Reepicheepacronym soup here00:17
jetoledeizl: if your VPS did it then it's a bug00:18
jetoleIf you are compromised then it's an idiot00:18
deizllol00:18
jetoleseriously, that is just something that should never have it's permissions changed so everyone cannot read/write to it00:18
jetoleall it is, is a character device that everything disappears into when you write to it00:19
jetoleit's the void00:19
jetolebut it has tonnes of legitimate uses like for screen right now which just failed when it could not use it00:19
deizlall my /dev/tty* files are crw------- also.. is that okay?00:19
jetolethat should be fine, let me look at mine00:19
jetolemy tty1-6 are like that00:20
jetoleeverything higher is rw for everyone00:20
Reepicheepjetole: one of those load balancers should work .. I know we use LVS with stuff like mon scripts to handle failures00:21
jetolebut then again tty 1-6 are reserved on my system as they are running a getty and the higher ttys are used00:21
jetoleReepicheep: I think I need to do some reading on it00:21
Reepicheepand you can use heartbeat and mon to allow a HA director just in case your director dies..00:21
Reepicheepanyway.. good luck with that.. I gotta run00:22
deizlhm, i don't really know what tty is, but since my system is a virtual machine i will just leave it as is and keep a note for future00:22
jetoledeizl: a tty is a virtual terminal00:22
jetolefor example if you have linux running on your desktop then the GUI is on tty700:22
jetoleif you ctrl+alt+f1 then you switch to tty100:23
deizlah okay, yeah i've done that on a desktop before.. but not on this00:23
jetolethe gui disappears and you are now at a console only terminal00:23
jetoleon almost all linux systems tty1-6 is gui, tty7-whatever is open00:23
jetolex11 uses the first open one which is almost always 700:23
jetoletty can also apply to a serial port00:24
deizldid you mean to type "tty1-6 is gui"?00:24
jetoleno00:24
deizlk :)00:24
jetoleah shit00:24
jetolelol00:24
jetoletty1-6 is console00:24
deizlcool00:24
jetolettyS0 is your first serial port or com 0 on windows00:25
jetolewow, the latest news on the home page for LVS is 363 days old00:26
jetolethats not very comforting00:26
jetolethe introduction page was last updated on sept 19 200500:27
jetolegood to know they stay current00:27
jetolehome page was last change 11/08/0800:28
arrrghhhzoopster, hey can you help me today?00:40
arrrghhhdoesn't seem to be here.  well, i'm having an issue with the package ffado-mixer-qt4.  i guess my version of ffado-dbus-server is for karmic, and ffado-mixer-qt4 is for jaunty, and it's causing issues that are preventing me from upgrading.00:41
cxoarrrghhh, apt-get remove whatever that annoys you00:43
arrrghhhcxo, it won't...00:44
arrrghhhi've tried EVERYTHING.  i can't get rid of it.00:44
arrrghhhi use aptitude purge anyways.00:44
cxouse dpkg manually then00:44
arrrghhhthat couldn't remove it either.00:44
cxoWhat does it say?00:44
arrrghhhtells me i should reinstall it before removing it.00:44
cxo--force00:45
arrrghhhthe package is in a "bad state" it claims.00:45
arrrghhhhrm00:45
arrrghhhok00:45
arrrghhhtells me the same thing.00:46
cxo--force-all00:46
cxocan you pastebin the whole saga00:46
arrrghhhhrm00:46
arrrghhhi don't think ffado-mixer-qt4 is installed.00:46
cxoYou're just trying to upgrade to 9.10?00:46
arrrghhhi thought i did upgrade, but it went poorly evidently.00:47
cxojust remove all your ffado stuf, and then try complete the upgrade and then install it back00:47
arrrghhhi still have 500-some packages to upgrade.00:47
arrrghhhgrrrr00:48
arrrghhhit won't let me purge the ffado-tools because of ffado-mixer-qt400:48
cxopastebin the whole thing, so i have some context00:48
arrrghhhoh sure, sure.00:49
arrrghhh1 sec00:49
arrrghhhcxo, http://pastebin.com/d5339101700:51
arrrghhhdpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ffado-mixer-qt4: ffado-mixer-qt4 depends on ffado-dbus-server (= 2.0~rc1-0ubuntu2); however: Version of ffado-dbus-server on system is 2.0~rc2+svn1569-2ubuntu1.00:51
arrrghhhthat's the important piece i do believe.00:52
cxotry --force-remove-reinstreq00:53
arrrghhhwhat's the whole command?  dpkg --remove?00:54
cxowith dpkg, i dont know if apt uses that00:54
arrrghhhsudo dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq ffado-tools <CR> dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove ffado-tools which isn't installed.00:55
cxotry give it a wild card after -tools00:55
cxoffado-tools.*00:55
arrrghhhsame error.00:56
cxowell remove  ffado-mixer-qt4 first00:56
arrrghhhcxo, http://pastebin.com/d3c12246b00:58
cxowtf is xdg-desktop-icon00:58
arrrghhhi don't get what's going on with my system.  my user.rules and user6.rules for ufw keep "disappearing"00:58
cxoapt-get install xdg-tools00:59
cxoI think the control scripts for those ffado packages are not very robust00:59
arrrghhhxdg-utils?01:00
cxoyeah, it provides a tool that the remove script in ffado is looking for01:00
arrrghhhdo you mean xdg-utils is what i'm asking.  there is no xdg-tools.01:00
arrrghhhi can't install it if i wanted to.01:01
cxogo to /bin01:02
arrrghhhk01:02
cxoand create an empty bash script called xdg-desktop-icon01:02
cxochmod +x xdg-desktop-icon01:02
cxo#!/bin/bash01:02
cxoexit 001:03
arrrghhhk01:03
cxoBasically i want to stop that remove script from crashing01:03
arrrghhhwhat do you want me to try now?01:04
cxosudo dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq ffado-mixer-qt401:04
arrrghhhk01:04
arrrghhhholy crap i think it worked01:06
arrrghhhi'm updating now.01:06
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cxodelete that empty script you made now01:08
cxowell make sure, its empty before you delete it01:08
cxojust in case the OS has already replaced it01:08
arrrghhhk01:08
arrrghhhyea, it's updating01:08
arrrghhhsheesh i hope this fixes my ufw issue.01:08
cxoWhat ufw issue were you having?01:09
arrrghhhmy user.rules and user6.rules were disappearing, i have no clue why.01:10
arrrghhhso ufw couldn't start after a reboot, and this system is headless.01:10
arrrghhhso no ssh access :D01:10
cxoI know this is not a solution, but don't use ufw. Stick to straight iptables01:11
arrrghhhhrm01:11
arrrghhhit's supposed to be uncomplicated :P01:11
cxowell lets see if it all works after the update01:12
arrrghhhcertainly01:12
arrrghhhi do appreciate the help.  creative solution, to say in the least.01:12
cxoIts called the Hammer technique01:13
arrrghhhlmao01:13
cxoJust hit everything as hard as you can, and then hope it works01:13
arrrghhhwell, so far it worked.01:14
lwizardlhi01:14
arrrghhh!hi | lwizardl01:14
ubottulwizardl: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-server! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!01:14
lwizardldoes this channel support help for all servers (web, data, file servers, etc) or just the web servers?01:20
arrrghhhlwizardl, it's general ubuntu-server help.01:20
arrrghhhlike i have a basic apache server setup, and i could probably help with basic apache issues, but there's also a channel dedicated to apache i'm sure.01:21
lwizardlok so basically if it runs the unbuntu distro and acts as anytype of server then its fair game01:21
arrrghhhthere's an ubuntu-server specific download from the ubuntu site...01:21
lwizardlarrrghhh, yeah I know i use that disc often01:22
arrrghhhlol ok01:22
arrrghhhi've only used the disc once... but i must say i use the server every day!01:22
arrrghhhi guess i'm not sure what your issue is.  you still haven't asked any question.01:23
lwizardlI was just checking so I'm able to ask the question01:23
arrrghhhask away.  if we can't help, we'll usually point you in the right direction ;)01:23
lwizardlI'm in the process of running my own retail store and was wondering if anyone here would know how to configure an ubuntu server to act as the main source of data for the POS system01:24
cxoheh01:24
arrrghhhi guess it depends on how you need to connect to the server...01:24
lwizardlbasically like the main server in the backroom and the POS systems would be the clients01:24
arrrghhhcxo, btw, i seem to be good.  i can ssh after a reboot.  yay!01:24
arrrghhhlwizardl, well, you can use samba, nfs... i'm sure there's others.01:25
arrrghhhwhat are your needs as far as connecting the clients to the server?01:25
lwizardlarrrghhh, well like my webhost uses mysql and they do not allow direct access to outside connections to the mysql server. so I would have to use an API layer to do the connection01:25
lwizardlbut thats as far as my knowledge goes so far01:26
arrrghhhhrm.  well you could run mysql on the server, no problem.  but i have no idea how to answer your question because i'm still fuzzy on how you want the pos clients to connect to the ubuntu server.01:26
newbuntuany ideas on why i have (drwxr-xr-x) permissions in my terminal, but (rwxr-xr-x) when I access the server via cyberDuck(sftp)01:26
newbuntuI need to be able to create sub-folders through sftp01:27
arrrghhhnewbuntu, different user accessing the server.01:27
iarpsure you checked the right file/folder?01:27
twbnewbuntu: d means directory01:28
twbnewbuntu: it is not a permission01:28
lwizardlarrrghhh, all i know for sure is this much. the main source of data storage for the POS system would be the web site's mysql database. so I would need to take my POS system and connect it using the API Layer (which ever one I end up using) and would want it to update the listings on the MySQL server when ever sold and also track the transactions number in the database01:29
arrrghhh yea those permissions look the same now that i looked closerly.01:30
lwizardlarrrghhh, hopefully that was what you was looking for01:30
arrrghhhlwizardl, hrm.  not really, but i'm no guru by any stretch of the word.01:30
arrrghhhlike i said, you can certainly setup a mysql server on the ubuntu-server.  how you want to update it, well that's up to you.  most use php i believe.01:31
lwizardlarrrghhh, yeah me neither. I've been using Linuix for about 6 years now but i'm just starting in the messing with server stuff01:31
newbuntu"d" means allowed to create sub-directories01:33
newbuntuthis is not the case?01:34
newbuntuall I know is I can through terminal, but when using sftp I can't01:34
newbuntuany Ideas?01:34
arrrghhhnewbuntu, and this is the same user you're using?01:34
newbuntuyes01:34
arrrghhhhrm01:34
newbuntulogged in through key pair01:35
newbuntuwhen I look at the permissions side by side that  is the only diff01:35
newbuntu75501:35
newbunturight?01:35
cxo4=read, 2=write, 1=execute, 4+2+1=7, 4+1=5, 4+1=501:36
newbuntuon my other server i log in as root (yes I know) keyPair, on this one I am just a user....can that be the diff01:37
twbnewbuntu: d is not a permission01:37
newbuntucomparing two diff one's now01:37
twbnewbuntu: it means "this is a directory".  It is not always listed.01:37
newbuntuthat's what I'm told01:37
newbuntuok01:37
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twbIn ls -l, d means dir, - means file, c and b mean character and block devices, l means symlink, etc.01:38
twbIt's just an indicator of the file type01:38
newbuntuokay, I was wrong, I can't create folders either way01:38
newbuntuhow do I get access to create folders, files etc?01:38
newbuntu755 should work, right?01:39
twbThe execute and write bits determine whether you can create and rename files in a directory.01:39
iarpare you in your own home folder01:39
newbuntuyes01:39
newbuntuwell, my home server folder01:39
newbuntumaybe not01:40
newbuntuI'm trying to create a dir in: /var/www     /html01:40
iarpsudo it01:40
newbuntuokay, that works through terminal, but what about sftp01:41
twbnewbuntu: your user probably does not have write access to /var/www/.01:41
twbnewbuntu: if you are just creating personal files, try using ~/public_html.01:41
newbuntuguess it has to be root01:42
newbuntuthanks01:42
twbnewbuntu: you may need to configure your httpd to allow users to have a ~/public_html.01:42
twbIf you are installing software, such as a crummy PHP web app, you should use aptitude.  Do not install stuff from an upstream source by just dropping it in /var/www unless you have absolutely no other choice.01:42
lwizardlAnyone know how to do this ? I need to use an API layer to update the MySQL database on my Web Host everytime a transaction happens on my POS system01:50
twbBy "POS" do you mean "Point of Sale" or "piece of shit"?01:54
lwizardlpoint of sale01:56
lwizardlcash register01:56
snthtwb: The other day I saw a car license tag says "POSCAR" I was dying laughing at it.01:56
snthI didn't even know that he can legally do that.01:56
lwizardlsnth, was it a ford ? lol j/k01:57
iarpand to add to that, why are you using a web host mysql? unless this pos system is hosted on a website01:57
twbITYM Lada01:57
snthheeeyy .. ford can be good. sometimes :)01:57
lwizardliarp, I was going to share the inventory between the site and store01:58
snthtwb: It seems like you teach me a new acronym every night .. what's ITYM?01:58
lwizardlso if one sells in the store then the site doesn't list it also01:58
twbI Think You Mean01:58
twbhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lada01:58
uvirtbotNew bug: #473636 in apache2 (main) "Apache2 doesn't handle ErrorDocuments set from a .htaccess file properly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47363602:01
ralphmichael17anyone here familiar with starting a dhcp server?02:13
twbNot that quickly02:17
snthhaha .. http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/Site/Home.html check it out when you have time :)02:28
twbI think I can find more profitable uses of my time.02:29
snthtwb: Always good to hear :)02:29
Sorellagrees with twb02:30
snthMe too02:34
Usohello02:36
Usowhat servers are preinstalled in the 9.10 release?02:36
twbNone.02:37
twbWell, I suppose if the "standard" task is left checked, you might get portmap and inetd and such.02:38
Sorellwhat about postfix/dovecot ?02:38
Usowhats different to the normal version then? other than that there comes no gui with it02:38
Sorellthey where in the 9.04 right?02:38
twbUso: basically when you do the install, near the end a checkbox should ask you "what services do you wanna run?"02:38
twbSorell: I don't think they are installed by default.02:39
Usowill apached, phpd and mysqld be under the,?02:39
twbSorell: postfix *might* be installed and left unconfigured by default.02:39
twbUso: Ubuntu doesn't install services by default because it is easy to ask for them to be installed once you can boot, using aptitude.02:39
twbThis is not like Microsoft SBS, where you get stuff like a fax server turned on by default even if you don't want it.02:40
twbI think there is a "LAMP" or "web server" option in the tasksel dialogue.02:41
Usoalright thanks02:41
adamdvI'm back :P03:28
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AdamDVOops03:29
MTecknologyI've been using logwatch and every week I get this MASSIVE list of failed messages. I don't know how to fix these issues... http://paste.ubuntu.com/309104/03:42
AdamDVAnyone need a wave invite?03:49
AdamDVI got 8.03:49
foxbuntuAdamDV, I would take on03:49
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foxbuntuone*03:49
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MTecknologysure03:49
AdamDVPM me your email.03:49
AdamDV(s)03:49
foxbuntuAdamDV, done.03:50
ScottKMTecknology: What packages do you use that have logwatch profiles (I'm actually in the middle of adding one to a package and could use examples).03:51
MTecknologyScottK: I just went w/ defaults03:51
ScottKMTecknology: OK.  Some packages ship filtering rules to make the logs less verbose.03:52
MTecknologyScottK: oh... I should check that then....03:53
MTecknologyScottK: I just liked the pretty summary - I have it send weekly summaries; then I have a daily logcheck03:54
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MenZawhat generates /etc/motd in -server?04:16
twbMenZa: sysvinit scripts04:18
twbMenZa: /etc/init.d/bootlogs:   # Update motd04:18
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JJman6how can i see what ports are being used on my machine!05:20
KurtKrautJJman6, netstat05:31
JJman6got it.  thx.   how can i cahnge the port mysql runs on now  ;-)05:31
JJman6i looked in my.conf and the port htat is set there isn't what netstat is showing mysqld is running on05:31
masshuuim trying to setup pptp clinet on my server, but i get a "Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: Permission denied05:42
masshuu" when i run pon05:42
masshuualong with05:43
masshuu/usr/sbin/pppd: Sorry - this system lacks PPP kernel support05:43
twbmasshuu: are you using sudo?05:44
masshuuwell i just read a forum post from 10-12-09 saying OpenVZ doesn't support pptp VPN05:44
masshuubut while i know its a no-no, im actually loged in as root :p05:45
twbOh, VPN05:46
twbI mean *Oh, VZ05:46
masshuulol05:47
twbMy head was full of OpenVPN05:47
twbJJman6: pastebin the output of ss -l or netstat -nap05:48
JJman6twb, give me a minute i'm reconfiguring some other ports05:59
Coosh306:23
uvirtbotNew bug: #473790 in rabbitmq-server (main) "rabbitmq server fails to start after being installed via aptitude" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47379006:31
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jgoppertcan anyone tell me how to manage cdrom/ admin/ sudo groups with ldap07:01
psteynanyone know how I can configure vsftp to chown all uploaded files to a certain user?  I set chown_uploads=YES and I've set chown_username=www-data , but this seems to only work for anonymously uploaded files.08:34
uvirtbotNew bug: #463684 in openldap (main) "dpkg-reconfigure slapd wizard configuration isn't complete" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46368408:41
error404notfoundwhat possoble tool could i use to attach a tar.gz file and email it using command line? I am on a server and need to email a backup file to client, but can't remember the name of the program i used lasttime08:44
error404notfoundits mpack :D08:45
mr_mojohi guys, does anyone have experience with pptpd here?09:05
_rubenpptp ... yuck ... that's a no for me, btw :)09:11
mr_mojo__ruben, what would you recommend instead?09:13
_rubeni currently use openvpn (ssl based) for roadwarriors and openswan (ipsec based) for site-to-site connections09:17
atomic_1i use openvpn for both cases09:30
mr_mojoi was originally planning on using that but i need something that is, unfortunately, workable without an extra client on winblows09:30
atomic_1it's a bit tricky to pull out multipoint with it09:30
atomic_1but its doable09:30
mr_mojoi really have no idea why ptppd isn't working. i can connect to the vpn and authenticate but it doesn't get network access09:31
_rubenwith windows the options are pptp or l2tp-over-ipsec (openswan + xl2tpd for instance)09:43
_rubenunless the client is windows 7, which does native ipsec iirc09:43
uvirtbotNew bug: #473976 in php5 (main) "php5 crashed with SIGSEGV in start_thread()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47397610:06
mr_mojook. new plan to get this working. what i want to do is create a virtual network with ip addresses in the 192.168.0.x range, then use NAT to route these over one of the static IPs connected to my server10:07
mr_mojoinstead of using actual internet routable IPs as my pptp client IPs10:07
mr_mojois that a good plan?10:07
mr_mojoi think i'll need to do this anyway since I only have 5 routable IPs on my server, and I'll need more than 5 clients connected concurrently10:08
_rubenpptp and NAT aren't the best of friends afaik10:09
mr_mojo_ruben, i thought as much but openwrt does it this way10:10
mr_mojoas far as i can gather10:10
fwestcan i run my own launchpad server internally?10:15
maxbThat is really a question for #launchpad10:16
fwestoops10:17
kworkhello, with what do you guys monitor your boxes centrally, to see what version of packages are installed/what services are running10:19
fwesti use cacti, nagios and munin10:20
kworkfwest, with what you see kernel version10:57
fwestkwork, depends on the machine i am monitoring10:58
kworksome nagios plugin to get it via snmp ?10:59
kworkim currently using cacti/nagios aswell10:59
kworkwill check out the munin10:59
kworkseems interesting10:59
fwestmunin gets more info out of a box and its easy to write plugins to generate graphs11:00
fwestbut i wouldn't use it to monitor snmp devices11:00
fwesti wonder if the -generic kernel will provide a more stable kvm server than -server11:01
fwestwhat would be nice are kernels for certain hardware, amd64,core2 etc11:01
kworkyou can build it yourself if you really want11:02
fwesti do, i am getting lazy these days11:02
* soren lunches11:02
nijabasoren: hello.  Do you think that bug 450044 would qualify for a SRU?11:09
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 450044 in euca2ools "euca-bundle-vol does not create essential tmpfs mounts when bundling Ubuntu images" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45004411:09
Jeeves_soren: You the kvm guru, right? :)11:09
Jeeves_root@kms2:/opt# ifconfig eth2 mtu 900011:09
Jeeves_SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument11:09
Jeeves_eth2 is an virtio NIC11:10
Jeeves_Can I conclude that this patch [1] is not included in the ubuntu build of kvm?11:10
Jeeves_[1]: http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-netdev/2008/11/26/423997411:10
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incorrectok so i changed to kvm server to use the -generic kernel rather than the -server kernel, seems to be stable hosting my 8.04 vm now11:31
incorrectat least it hasn't vaporised yet11:31
mrchrisadamshi guys, I notice that the new ubuntu releases have a really tricked out screen setup now11:33
mrchrisadamsas in screen, the session manager11:33
mrchrisadamshow would I pull that down without updating an entire server?11:33
incorrectyou want a fancy boot screen on a server?11:34
incorrectyou can always back port it i guess11:34
mrchrisadamsno11:34
mrchrisadamsI've never got round to writing a good .screenrc file11:34
incorrectoh sorry screen command11:34
incorrectjust backport it11:34
mrchrisadamsso i figured it's worth learning the default one, as the ppl working on it have probably thought about it longer than I11:35
mrchrisadamsincorrect: at the risk of revealing my noobishness - how would I do that?11:35
incorrectif i want something i create a chroot of the target OS, change its sources to use the version i want to backport from,11:35
mrchrisadamsI'm running ubuntu server 8.1011:36
incorrectapt-get source the package, apt-get depends (i forget the exact command)11:36
incorrectimho i would upgrade it will be easier11:36
incorrectrather than learning how to backport11:36
mrchrisadamsincorrect: that does make sense11:37
mrchrisadamsill get by without screen for now11:37
incorrectbackporting can be hard if the target version doesn't have the right supporting libs11:38
incorrectscreen might be easy, however 1 year of libs might be tough to alter the package if you haven't done it before11:39
mr_mojomrchrisadams, there is a ppa11:40
mr_mojohttps://launchpad.net/~byobu/+archive/ppa11:40
mr_mojoadd the apt line from that to your apt sources.list and it should update to the latest versions11:41
mr_mojoincluding all libs11:41
mrchrisadamsmr_mojo: I'm sorry I'm not sure I follow11:41
mrchrisadamsthat adds the sources for the latest versions of screen?11:41
mr_mojoyes11:43
mr_mojobasically11:43
mr_mojodeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/byobu/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main11:43
mr_mojodeb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/byobu/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main into your sources.list and then run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade11:43
incorrectah someone has done the hardware for you mrchrisadams11:47
mrchrisadamsoh, sweet on stick11:47
incorrectalways take care when using a PPA, they can break things11:48
incorrectPPA = personal package archive11:48
mrchrisadamsincorrect: i think I'll run this on a vm before I try it on a server that's in use11:48
mrchrisadamsbut thanks11:48
mrchrisadamsyou guys rock!11:48
incorrectmrchrisadams, just remember be careful if there is an update11:49
incorrectyes i rock, i drank too much coffee11:49
mr_mojoa lot of the time with ppa's all they are doing is pulling down new stable versions so they have been somewhat tested. but yes be somewhat wary11:49
incorrectand remember the person can get bored doing builds for old releases11:50
incorrecti guess i can't directly upgrade from 8.04 to 9.10 ?11:51
mr_mojoincorrect, correct :)11:55
mr_mojoi think it's 8.10 -> 9.04 -> 9.10 :(11:56
incorrecti thought as much11:56
incorrecthmm, there is some weird issue with kernel 2.6.31-14-server and kvm running an 8.04 vm12:04
zulsoren: have you seen this? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-November/029494.html12:39
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sorenzul: Yup.13:13
zulsoren: what do you think of it?13:13
sorenI haven't looked closely enough yet to tell.13:17
sorenUnbelievable.13:19
sorenI bought a new 1 TB external hard drive because my 320 GB one was filling up.13:19
sorenIt arrived this morning.13:20
sorenI go to copy the contents of the old disk onto the new one.. And the old one started failing overnight.13:20
pmatulissoren: damn13:22
sorenpmatulis: Damn, indeed.13:32
sorenpmatulis: I didn't have anything on there that couldn't be replaced, but it's going to take a while to recreate my debmirror, for instance.13:33
Jeeves_soren: Did you see my question about virtio-net and mtu changes?13:35
sorenJeeves_: Sorry, must have missed it.13:47
sorenJeeves_: When?13:47
sorenJeeves_: I've been switching my IRC setup around a bit, so tiny bits may have gotten lost along the way.13:47
Jeeves_np13:47
Jeeves_12:09 < Jeeves_> root@kms2:/opt# ifconfig eth2 mtu 900013:48
Jeeves_12:09 < Jeeves_> SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument13:48
Jeeves_12:10 < Jeeves_> eth2 is an virtio NIC13:48
Jeeves_12:10 < Jeeves_> Can I conclude that this patch [1] is not included in the ubuntu build of kvm?13:48
Jeeves_12:10 < Jeeves_> [1]: http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-netdev/2008/11/26/423997413:48
sorenJeeves_: No idea. I can check.13:50
Jeeves_I can also check it, if you hint me where to find it :)13:50
ricdangerhi there13:51
__CACOhi there, can anybody tell me is it recomended to install and use webmin on ubuntu 9.10 or not?13:51
ricdangerare cron.daily scripts guaranteed to run every day?13:51
sorenJeeves_: Nope, we do have that patch applied.13:51
sorenJeeves_: Which kernel are you running?13:51
soren__CACO: It's not.13:51
Jeeves_soren: root@kms2:~# uname -a13:51
Jeeves_Linux kms2 2.6.24-25-virtual #1 SMP Tue Oct 20 08:53:33 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux13:51
Jeeves_hardy13:51
sorenJeeves_: Oh. Then no.13:51
Jeeves_:)13:51
Jeeves_Only on the -server kernel?13:52
__CACOthanks, can i ask why?13:52
sorenJeeves_: Dude, the patch is from November 2008. Hardy came out in April 2008.13:52
soren:)13:52
sorenJeeves_: No.13:52
sorenJeeves_: Not in Hardy. At all.13:52
sorenJeeves_: We /are/ cool, but we do not have time machines.13:52
incorrectdamn it, the generic kernel keeps a kvm 8.04 up longer than -server, however things still go bang13:52
Jeeves_soren: ;)13:52
soren__CACO: Because webmin is not support in Ubuntu. It's not in the archive.13:53
Jeeves_soren: The kernel was updated in the meantime, with point releases :)13:53
sorenincorrect: Using libvirt?13:53
incorrectsoren, yes13:53
sorenincorrect: Anything useful in /var/log/libvirt/qemu/name_of_your_vm.log ?13:54
sorenincorrect: Or in dmesg?13:54
sorenincorrect: Is it amd64 or i386?13:54
sorenincorrect: (The host, that is)13:54
__CACOsoren: Yea, I noticed that :) but there is a deb package in webmine site, because that i asked13:54
incorrectamd64, and nothing useful anywhere13:54
Jeeves_incorrect:  14:54:29 up 146 days, 13:06,  1 user,  load average: 0.08, 0.03, 0.0113:54
Jeeves_That's a vm, in libvirt13:54
soren__CACO: We cannot (and will not) support debs that random people put on their website.13:54
incorrectJeeves_, i bet you aren't using 9.1013:54
incorrect9.04 it was stable13:55
soren9.10 is not quite 146 days old yet, so that seems a safe bet.13:55
Jeeves_incorrect: No, this vm is 8.04.213:55
Jeeves_soren: :)13:55
Jeeves_I've got two issues left:13:55
Jeeves_* MIgration still doesn't work13:55
incorrectJeeves_, why don't you try upgrading to 9.10 and see if you 8.04 vm's are stable13:55
__CACOTherefore what do you guys recomend for begginer like me. I have so much trouble getting things work in console :(13:56
Jeeves_* ubuntu-vm-builder doesn't seem to understand /dev/vda and grub13:56
Jeeves_incorrect: I just did, I'll let you know :)13:56
soren__CACO: ebox.13:56
incorrectit seems more stable on a generic kernel than a server kernel13:56
sorenincorrect: Perhaps we have different ideas of what is "useful". Can you post dmesg and the libvirt log, please?13:57
incorrectsoren, sure13:57
Jeeves_soren: Does that /dev/vda - grub - issue sound familliar to you?13:57
zulmathiaz: who is running the meeting?13:57
mathiazzul: me13:58
zulcoolio13:58
sorenJeeves_: Not off the top of my head. Can you be more specific?13:58
zulhopefully it will be pretty quick ;)13:58
Jeeves_When running ubuntu-vm-builder with a template to use virtio-disks, grub doesn't seem to add that disk to /boot/grub/devices.map, and thus doesn't install grub in the mbr13:58
__CACOsoren:  wow, thanks for that i will check it out.13:58
Jeeves_The grub inside the builded vm, that is13:58
sorenJeeves_: No idea, really.13:59
sorenJeeves_: Sorry.13:59
__CACOCan I doo al the stuff like in webmin, like manage DNS,Postfix,apache...?13:59
Jeeves_Also, the fstab holds /dev/sda entries, and not /dev/vda13:59
soren__CACO: Probably not.13:59
ricdangerwhat is the current size of an ubuntu mirror?13:59
soren__CACO: You haven't said anything about what you need.13:59
sorenricdanger: Depends.13:59
Jeeves___CACO: Webmin and ebox are quite differenty13:59
sorenricdanger: How many architectures and release series?13:59
incorrecthttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/309506/13:59
Jeeves___CACO: Best is to just try and understand the configfiles :)14:00
ricdangerx64 + x86, and releases > intrepid14:00
incorrecta few groans about an .iso that a different vm is using14:00
sorenincorrect: there's only that one line in the libvirt log?14:00
incorrectsoren, that line repeats for every time i've restarted it14:00
sorenricdanger: I have hardy, jaunty, karmic, and lucid, i386, amd64, and source packages in around 170 GB.14:01
ricdangeruhmmm14:01
sorenricdanger: No intrepid.14:01
ricdangerwith universe and multiverse?14:01
sorenricdanger: ...but it'll probably be roughly the same (assuming hardy and intrepid are about the same size).14:01
sorenricdanger: main, restricted, universe, multiverse, and all of -updates, -proposed, and -security tossed in as well.14:02
incorrectsorry, i see it says virtio-net truncating packet14:02
__CACOJeeves: yes i know that, but i am trying to get postfix to work for 2days now, with webmin i did it in two hours :)14:02
incorrecti bet its virtio14:03
incorrecti bet an e1000 nic will sort it out14:03
sorenI bet it could be a number of things.14:03
incorrectwell it doesn't help there is not error14:05
incorrectmight be worth backporting the virtual kernel from 9.x14:06
_ruben212GB for hardy - karmic here14:07
incorrecti knew i would have problems upgrading my kvm server14:08
sorenincorrect: Err.. Which is it: Are there no errors, or does it complain about truncating packets?14:10
Jeeves___CACO: First smart thing would be to ditch postfix and run exim, imho :)14:11
incorrectits complaining14:11
lamontJeeves_: I'd have said "ditch webmin"...14:11
Jeeves_lamont: Sorry, that one seemed to obvious for me :)14:11
adamdvWebmin is as useless as windows without virtualmin.14:12
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incorrectsoren, that is why i thought changing it to use an e1000 driver rather than vritio14:12
sorenincorrect: Seriously. I can't help you if you keep information from me.14:13
sorenincorrect: If I ask for a log file (after explicitly saying that we may have different ideas of what is interesting there), it's not helpful if you only give me a fraction of the logfile.14:14
incorrecti didn't exactly mean to miss that message14:14
incorrectwasn't a long long file14:14
sorenI'm just saying, that if I ask for a log file and you give me something else, at the very least say that you've only given me part of said logfile.14:15
incorrecti did communicate that after i noticed i hadn't pasted everything14:17
incorrecti resized the terminal and saw the line break as it wasn't clear the way i had the terminal14:18
AdamDVincorrect: Full screen emuator ftw.14:20
incorrecti use terminator, just i had a weird layout14:20
sorenWhee! My previously completely dead hard drive has sprung to life again for a little bit.14:45
AdamDVWoo!14:45
* soren hopes he can salvage everything from it in time before it decides to throw in the towel for good14:46
zulgo hard drive go hard drive its your birthday14:48
smosernijaba, in my opinion, euca-bundle-vol is destined to be buggy and or broken.  you simply cannot generically take a running filesystem and cleanly rebundle it.14:53
smoserof course, some here will say "its good enough'.14:53
nijabasmoser: well, loads of people have been using successfully on EC2, and would expect to do the same on UEC14:53
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incorrectzimbra runs so hot all the time14:55
AdamDVzimbra is so very nice.14:55
AdamDVI have a multi server setup.14:56
smoserit makes large assumptions like "/var should not be copied *at all*" (apparently, from that bug)14:56
AdamDVRunning on CentOS.14:56
incorrectAdamDV, i roll out zimbra every time i know someone who wants an email server and can't afford exchange14:57
AdamDVYea.14:57
AdamDVI actually prefer ZImbra over exchange14:57
incorrectin fact i like it more than exchange apart from one thing14:57
AdamDVAnd, in most cases, over Postfix+Dovecot14:57
AdamDVWhats that?14:57
AdamDVI run a web design company, that provides web hosting.14:58
AdamDVAnd, we provide cPanel + Zimbra for mail.14:58
AdamDVWIth custom mx records.14:58
AdamDVAnd round robin DNS.14:58
AdamDV2 MTA's14:58
AdamDV2 mailstores14:58
AdamDV1 master ldap.14:58
incorrectexchange does one thing right, it allows you to associate an account with email addresses, so user abc can have email of john.smith@example.com14:58
AdamDVVery nice setup.14:58
incorrectzimbra your user name has to be your email address14:58
AdamDVI prefer it that way.14:59
AdamDVMore porfessional, IMO.14:59
incorrectthis sucks for ldap integration,  i had to create username aliases for each user14:59
AdamDVYou know you could use virtualhosts per the domain, right?14:59
incorrectthat is a massive security issues for webmail, i know i can attack your webmail this way14:59
AdamDVSo that it detect which domain its being accessed from, and adds that, instead of using full emails?14:59
incorrectAdamDV, its the username to address that doesn't work14:59
AdamDVI see.15:00
AdamDVYea, I know what you mean15:00
incorrectalso the address book breaks as it only uses the account name15:00
AdamDVI would prefer to be able to use john.smith in the LDAP db instead of john.smith@example.com15:00
incorrectbut can be worked around with aliases in your ldap server15:00
lamontAdamDV: does zimbra still stomp around in the internals of postfix?15:00
AdamDVSlightly.15:00
incorrectno no that isn't what i mean15:00
incorrectthe ldap server is not zimbra's ldap server, i have an n-way replicating setup with openldap for systems and other web apps15:01
AdamDVOhhhh.15:01
AdamDVI get what you mean.15:02
AdamDVSo, you have to manually alias each user in zimbra.15:02
AdamDVI see.15:02
uvirtbotNew bug: #450044 in euca2ools "euca-bundle-vol does not create essential tmpfs mounts when bundling Ubuntu images" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45004415:02
AdamDVAnyone know a good graphic designer?15:02
incorrectso jsmith has an alias of john,smith in the company wide ldap, and zimbra has a user of john.smith so the address book works15:03
incorrectwell my 8.04 vm has not crashed out yet15:04
* soren takes a break15:12
quizmefor some reason i can't get passwordless login to work.  I think sshd is not configured correctly. can somebody look at my sshd config file?15:21
AdamDVquizme: Why would you want a passwordless login through ssh?15:22
AdamDVO.o15:22
quizmeAdamDV Public Key Authentication ... it's convenient15:22
PJiPhoneSomething I want to configure for automated backups15:24
AdamDVquizme: Ah15:25
Piciquizme: You shouldn't need to modify anything in sshd for key based autoentication to work.15:28
quizmePici: somebody else modified it15:28
quizmePici: i'm trying to unmodify the modification that makes it not work  or at least that's what i think i'm doing.15:29
aubreGood morning15:42
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Jeeves_soren: 2009-11-04 17:04:04,938 DEBUG   :  Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) /boot/grub/stage2 p /boot/grub/menu.lst "... failed16:05
Jeeves_2009-11-04 17:04:04,938 DEBUG   : Error 22: No such partition16:05
Jeeves_2009-11-04 17:04:04,938 DEBUG   : grub> EOT16:05
Jeeves_That's why my vm's don't boot :)16:05
sorenJeeves_: How are you getting into this? You said something about virtio disks?16:07
Jeeves_soren: Yes, virtio and i386 arch16:07
Jeeves_i tried fixing it with my own templates, but that didn't help16:08
Jeeves_The strange thing is, it did work, sometime ... :)16:08
sorenJeeves_: Are you building these inside a VM?16:10
Jeeves_soren: No16:10
sorenthen I don't get it. I didn't think u-v-b knew anything at all about virtio.16:11
Jeeves_I'm building on a normal machine, on which the vm's should run. Storage is on /dev/disk/by-path/iscsi-url16:11
Jeeves_Well, the templates seem to be for dapper16:11
sorenHow do you figure that?16:12
Jeeves_ls /etc/vmbuilder/ubuntu/16:12
Jeeves_dapper_fstab.tmpl16:12
Jeeves_the templates created contain sda-notation, not vda16:13
sorenI'm very confused now.16:13
sorenWhich version of ubuntu-vm-builder are you using?16:13
sorenthis all looks very non-hardy-like.16:13
Jeeves_http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/309646/16:14
Jeeves_root@kvm3:/target# ubuntu-vm-builder --version16:14
Jeeves_0.11.35316:14
soren?!?16:15
sorenYou said hardy!16:15
Jeeves_No, I said the vm's will be running hardy, the host is running karmic16:15
sorenI see.16:16
sorenI'd love to chat about this tomorrow or later this evening. Right now, I have to run.16:17
incorrectok my 8.04kvm has been running for 2 hours now i changed away from using virtio16:17
Jeeves_soren: okidoki :)16:17
Jeeves_I'll be online tonight and tomorrow, so :)16:17
ward-is there any good review of ubuntu cloud computing?16:18
ward-what exactly it does etc16:19
ward-can't seem to find much info on it yet16:19
leonelis there a qemu ppa with  kqemu module enabled ? I need to use qemu on a non VMX cpu16:33
jabalsadhi.. what can i type in the command line to check whether i'm running server or desktop?17:03
smoserjabalsad, its not really that easy of a question (at least i dont think).17:07
jabalsad:/17:07
smosertasksel --list-tasks | grep server17:07
smoserthat'll tell you if you have the 'server' task17:07
flybacksay you downgraded your cpu from 686 arch type to 586 tyoe, is there a way to boot a rescue cd etc on the new box to then transfer I guess it's the root env to the local filesystem so you can apt-get a new kernel etc17:08
smosertasksel --list-tasks | grep ubuntu-desktop17:08
flybackI gotta get ready for work so I will check back in a bit, I don't mean to be rude just can't be late17:08
jabalsadsmoser, i see a bunch of servers one of which is called 'Edubuntu server'17:08
smoserwill tell you if you have desktop task. but either could be installed onto either. its not a hard separation.17:08
jabalsadthis is a clean install17:08
jabalsaddone on a dedi in another country17:08
* flyback switches to a nice embedded board in case anyone wants "wtf did you downgrade for"17:09
smoseracutally, i realize i was wrong about my advice anyway. the 'server' task isn't installed on my installed 'server' (which i did from media).17:09
smoserbut the server does not have the 'ubuntu-desktop' task, where the laptop does17:09
jabalsad:/17:09
jabalsadi see the ubuntu desktop task17:10
jabalsadbut maybe it was installed afterwards?17:10
smoseras i said, it could be.17:10
jabalsaddamn17:10
jabalsadi found a thread on the forums, i'll look into that quick17:11
jabalsad'lsb_release -a' and 'uname -a' .... but it doesnt really seem conclusive :D17:12
jabalsadif i find that i have desktop installed, should i rather request to install the server version?17:12
tarnfeldHello17:20
tarnfeldAnyone here?17:20
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flybackwell I gotta run but thx anyways17:35
flyback:D17:35
zulmathiaz: have you done any blueprints for lucid yet? Im looking for a template to follow17:39
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mathiazzul: hm - not yet17:45
mathiazzul: just use a name that starts with lucid-server17:45
mathiazzul: just use a name that starts with lucid-server-17:45
mathiazzul: and we'll take it from there (we can always rename them if necessary)17:46
zulsounds good to me17:46
mathiazkirkland: were you able to retrieve the GPG public key of my eucalyptus PPA?17:59
kirklandmathiaz: i didn't try17:59
kirklandmathiaz: would you like me to?17:59
mathiazkirkland: well - jsalisbury is trying to add the public key and it doesn't work18:00
mathiazkirkland: apparently the key server is down18:00
kirklandmathiaz: oh18:00
cemcI had some problems with it myself18:00
cemcthe last couple of days/week18:00
cemcit takes a loong time to get a key18:00
cemcit times out even a couple of times18:00
kirklandmathiaz: i'll try18:00
kirklandmathiaz: jsalisbury: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/309764/18:03
kirklandmathiaz: worked fine for me18:03
everythingdanielHi, I am trying to install Ubuntu Server. I get a screen like http://pastebin.com/m54e9003a  and no matter what I select, the box goes away, and else nothing happens. Its not frozen up, I can do a ctl-alt-del  and the kernel shuts down properly18:03
everythingdanielThat box coes up right after the loader bar that scrolls by saying its setting up partitioner18:05
jsalisburykirkland: mathiaz:  I'll try again.18:06
kirklandjsalisbury: what are you using to import the key?18:06
kirkland sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 094D042018:07
* kirkland thinks launchpad should print that on the ppa page itself, for easy copy-n-paste18:07
jsalisburykirkland: http://pastebin.com/dcb391ac18:08
jsalisburykirkland: looks like the server is down, but I can ping it.18:08
kirklandjsalisbury: proxy problem?  firewall problem?18:08
cemcjsalisbury: try it a couple of times, it will get it eventually18:09
jsalisburykirkland:  no proxy, maybe a switch is blocking.  Does this use a special port?18:09
kirklandjsalisbury: i'm not sure18:09
jsalisburycemc:  Ok, maybe I'll write a script and have it try in a loop ;-)18:09
cemcjsalisbury: I'm not kidding, it usually took me 5-10 minutes and 3-4 tries to get it18:10
jsalisburycemc:  Okay, thanks.  I'll give if several tries.18:10
cemcand I've installed 3 different ubuntu guests, and had 2 more systems I wanted to install from a ppa and on every system it took forever18:10
mathiazsommer: hey - if there is a bug in the server guide, where should I assign it?18:11
cemcI wanted to report it, wasn't sure whereto exactly18:11
mathiazsommer: (the openldap section hasn't been updated to the new way slapd is setup in karmic - bug 463684)18:11
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 463684 in openldap "dpkg-reconfigure slapd wizard configuration isn't complete" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46368418:11
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everythingdanielA little extra bit of info, I am doing a minimal install18:16
sommermathiaz: ya, I've been meaning to get to that.  ubuntu-docs should be the package18:20
sommermathiaz: I was thinking of trying to push for an SRU, but will need to coordinate with the DocTeam for translations18:21
adelie42I am setting up a pxe server for a second network card. what do I need to specify in /etc/dhcp3/dhcp3d.conf to tell it which network card to listen on?18:21
mathiazsommer: right - seems like a good candidate for a SRU18:21
sommermathiaz: I'll try to get that done by the end of the week18:22
sommeror at least started :)18:23
jsalisburykirkland: Did you happen to open a separate bug for the issue you had listed in commend #6 in Bug 455625 ?18:45
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 455625 in eucalyptus "Eucalyptus Loses Public IP Address" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45562518:45
jsalisburykirkland:  I just ran into the same issue immediately after upgrading to the PPA from mathiaz18:46
mathiazjdstrand: right - this is another bug.18:46
mathiazjsalisbury: ^^18:46
pmatuliswhere is mdadm (raid) information stored and how should it be backed up?18:46
mathiazjdstrand: nevermind18:46
kirklandjsalisbury: i don't think i opened another bug18:46
jsalisburykirkland:  Do you think I should, or just add another comment to 455625?18:47
mathiazjsalisbury: what have you exactly seen?18:47
mathiazjsalisbury: are the ip addresses still on the CC (via ip addr show)?18:47
mathiazjsalisbury: or is just that euca-describe-instances doesn't show them?18:47
jsalisburymathiaz:  I did an apt-get upgrade eucalyptus -  however, my instance was still running.  Both the public and private IP addresses changed to 0.0.0.018:48
mathiazjsalisbury: right - this is probably bug 46008918:48
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 460089 in eucalyptus "network state is lost if the cluster controller (CC) is stopped" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46008918:48
kirklandjsalisbury: mathiaz: i'm not sure my issue was a real one, as I still have another DHCP server on my network (rather than disabling it like Eucalyptus requires)18:48
kirklandjsalisbury: mathiaz: I strongly DISLIKE this requirement of UEC, and hope we find some way around this for Lucid18:48
mathiazjsalisbury: could you check whether the CC still IP addresses configured?18:48
kirklandjsalisbury: mathiaz: this means that I sometimes have funky network problems that I chalk up to my dhcp/router18:49
jsalisburymathiaz:  using which command?  euca-describe-addresses?18:49
mathiazjsalisbury: ip addr show on the CC18:49
jsalisburymathiaz: one sec18:49
mathiazjsalisbury: I'm trying to by pass eucalyptus heere18:49
stlsaintmathiaz: excuse me18:50
mathiazjsalisbury: and see the routing and firewall configuration of the CC18:50
jsalisburymathiaz:  The ip addresses still look defined with ip addr show on the CC18:51
jsalisburymathiaz: I can also still ping the public IP Address that was assigned to the instance.  It just isn't reported by eucalyptus.18:52
mathiazjsalisbury: right18:52
mathiazjsalisbury: what the firewall rules show on the CC?18:52
mathiazjsalisbury: iptables -Nl -t nat18:52
pipedream 18:53
mathiazjsalisbury: iptables -nL -t nat actually18:53
jsalisburymathiaz: Okay18:53
mathiazjsalisbury: do you still see the firewall rules for the public instances?18:54
mathiazjsalisbury: if so - you've run into bug 46008918:54
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 460089 in eucalyptus "network state is lost if the cluster controller (CC) is stopped" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46008918:54
mathiazjsalisbury: which is addressed in the SRU18:54
jsalisburymathiaz:  no, I don't.18:54
jsalisburymathiaz:  one second and I can paste the output.18:55
mathiazjsalisbury: so - *before* the upgrade: if you do an eucalyptus stop, firewall rules are removed, but not the public IPs?18:55
mathiazjsalisbury: yes - could you paste the output of: ip addr show18:56
mathiazjsalisbury: and iptables -nL -t nat18:56
mathiazjsalisbury: on the CC18:57
jsalisburymathiaz:  sure, just one sec.  it takes a little bit because I'm working on systems on different networks and my IRC is setup through a vnc session.18:57
mathiaz!paste | jsalisbury18:58
ubottujsalisbury: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com (or !pastebinit for CLI) | For pasting !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin Please give us the URLs for your posts!18:58
jsalisburymathiaz: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/309832/19:03
mathiazjsalisbury: 172.23.46.78 is the public IP of the running instance?19:04
jsalisburymathiaz: yes19:05
mathiazjsalisbury: ok - thanks19:05
sbeattiemathiaz|zul: sorry I missed your meeting; I reviewed the nut and ipsec-tools SRUs a couple of weeks ago. I'm unable to change the overall status on the merge or upload, so I'm not sure what the next step from here should be.19:05
mathiazsbeattie: right - I think only the submitter can do that19:06
mathiazsbeattie: have you set your own status to approve?19:06
sbeattieI haven't seen any new SRU merge reviews come way since then.19:06
sbeattiemathiaz: yes19:06
sbeattiehttps://code.launchpad.net/~sbeattie/+activereviews is the reviews I've looked at, the approves listed are all from me.19:06
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zulsbeattie: its on my to do list to update those test cases19:07
sbeattiezul: okay, thanks, that is appreciated.19:07
mathiazsbeattie: yeah - we need to tune the process a bit to make sure things are moving swiftly19:08
mathiazsbeattie: overall it still makes sense to have you review the SRU+bzr branch at that point in the process?19:08
sbeattiemathiaz: yeah. I meant to raise the issue a couple of weeks ago, but some australian animal got in the way.19:08
mathiazsbeattie: yeah - we should be more lucid from a now on19:09
sbeattieanyway, I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something missing on my part that was holding things up.19:09
zulsbeattie: a kangaroo? ;)19:10
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Jeeves_soren: The issue with ubuntu-vm-builder seems to occur only when installing on raw-devices19:22
vladanian_Hey guys, I'm trying to get UEC hooked up to elasticfox, and I'm getting an error19:32
Jeeves_soren: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/CreateGuests says 'Ubuntu-vm-builder doesn't allow you to create the VM on a raw block device yet'19:33
Jeeves_Is that still the case?19:33
BerRMaNyAI have a problem to install dovecot with mysql, somebody can helpme ?19:33
incorrectyay! my finally my 8.04 vm is stable under 9.1019:57
everythingdanielHi, I am trying to install Ubuntu Server. I get a screen like http://pastebin.com/m54e9003a  and no matter what I select, the box goes away, and else nothing happens. Its not frozen up, I can do a ctl-alt-del  and the kernel shuts down properly19:58
everythingdaniel(reposted question)19:58
ReepicheepBerRMaNyA: did you find a tutorial to follow?19:58
mneptokeverythingdaniel: how are your disks conected to the motherboard physically?19:59
everythingdanielide19:59
BerRMaNyAReepicheep i asked in #dovecot, they answered that upgrade the version to 1.019:59
everythingdanielone disk, set as master19:59
BerRMaNyAi have a 0.920:00
mneptokeverythingdaniel: RAID card or ... ?20:00
everythingdanielide to motherboard20:00
ReepicheepBerRMaNyA: what version of ubuntu server are you using?20:00
mneptokeverythingdaniel: look in your BIOS and see if there is a way to alter the IDE settings. if it is set to IDE, try setting it to RAID mode. this may allow Ubuntu to identify the chipset differently and load a different driver.20:01
mneptokconversely, if the BIOS is set to RAID, set it nack to IDE.20:02
BerRMaNyAI dont have ubuntu server, but when i asked in #ubuntu they answer that i should join #ubuntu-server, but i have ubuntu 9.0420:02
everythingdanielohh okay20:02
everythingdanielIll check that when I get back over to that box20:02
everythingdanielthank you20:02
mneptoknp20:02
mneptokeverythingdaniel: and be sure to checksum the .ido you downloaded and/or run the physical media check. it would be frustrating if you spent hours trying to fix a disc that is just badly burned. ;)20:03
mneptok*.iso20:03
everythingdanielhaha, true20:04
everythingdanielgodo tip20:04
ReepicheepBerRMaNyA: it looks like 9.04 contains dovecot 1.1.11 in the repos20:07
BerRMaNyAhow i can know the version of my dovecat?20:08
BerRMaNyAI follow this tutorial http://bliki.rimuhosting.com/space/knowledgebase/linux/mail/postfixadmin+on+debian+sarge20:08
BerRMaNyAbut now i trying configure dovecat whit this tutorial http://johnny.chadda.se/2007/04/15/mail-server-howto-postfix-and-dovecot-with-mysql-and-tlsssl-postgrey-and-dspam/20:09
ReepicheepBerRMaNyA: did you install it with apt?20:09
BerRMaNyAyes20:10
Reepicheeptry "sudo aptitude show dovecot-common"20:10
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BerRMaNyAi have version 1.1.1.1120:11
BerRMaNyAI dont have 0.9 :S20:12
Reepicheepand  "State: Installed"20:12
BerRMaNyAyes20:12
BerRMaNyAbut20:12
Reepicheepnow run "dovecot --version"20:12
BerRMaNyA1.1.1120:13
BerRMaNyAyes20:13
BerRMaNyAbut when i add this lines in dovecot.conf20:13
BerRMaNyAauth_userdb = mysql /etc/dovecot/dovecot-mysql.conf20:13
BerRMaNyAauth_passdb = mysql /etc/dovecot/dovecot-mysql.conf20:13
BerRMaNyAfirst_valid_uid = 10620:13
BerRMaNyAdefault_mail_env = maildir:/home/vmail/%d/%n20:13
BerRMaNyAand i try run /etc/init.d/dovecot restart20:14
BerRMaNyAI saw this20:14
BerRMaNyAError in configuration file ... : Unknow setting: userdb20:14
Reepicheepwhy in #dovecot did they think you were using version 0.9?20:15
BerRMaNyAi dont know20:16
BerRMaNyAsee this20:16
BerRMaNyABerRMaNyA>pastie.org/68368520:16
BerRMaNyA<BerRMaNyA>is my dovecot configuration20:16
BerRMaNyA|<--feisar has left irc.freenode.org ("Leaving")20:16
BerRMaNyA<BerRMaNyA>so someone have a idea?20:16
BerRMaNyA<tss>berrmanya: you really shouldn't be using dovecot v0.9920:16
ReepicheepBerRMaNyA: I'm assuming that you got dovecot-mysql configured20:17
BerRMaNyAmmm20:18
BerRMaNyAdovecot-mysql ?20:18
BerRMaNyAI never run apt-get install dovecot-mysql20:18
BerRMaNyAand i try run install dovecot-mysql dont find the package20:18
Reepicheepoh.. I think I see why they said that.. auth_userdb must be something used in an older version of dovecot.. use passdb instead20:19
ReepicheepI bet your tutorial is a bit out of date20:19
ReepicheepBerRMaNyA: btw.. dovecot-mysql should already exist.. it's just a config file20:20
BerRMaNyAi try now whit this tutorial, http://johnny.chadda.se/2007/04/15/mail-server-howto-postfix-and-dovecot-with-mysql-and-tlsssl-postgrey-and-dspam/20:21
Reepicheepyou need to put your mysql specific stuff in that file than tell dovecot to use the passdb from mysql in dovecot.conf20:21
BerRMaNyApassdb sql {20:21
BerRMaNyAargs = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-sql.conf20:21
BerRMaNyA}20:21
BerRMaNyAuserdb sql {20:21
BerRMaNyAargs = /etc/dovecot/dovecot-sql.conf20:21
BerRMaNyA}20:21
BerRMaNyAthat its ok?20:22
Reepicheepyeah.. sorry dovecot-sql.conf not dovecot-mysql.conf20:22
Xpistos|workExuse me, but how do I create a user account from the command line that can use sudo when needed?20:22
ReepicheepBerRMaNyA: btw.. if you got more then a couple lines pastebin it .. thanks20:23
Reepicheepthe original paste bin you sent to the #dovecot channel had examples lower down in the file. it's pretty well documented20:24
Reepicheepreed through both the dovecot-sql.conf file and the original dovecot.conf file.. you will need to undo many of the changes you already have made to the dovecot.conf file20:25
Xpistos|workwould htis work? sudo adduser -G admin USERNAME20:25
Reepicheeps/reed/read/ ^ BerRMaNyA20:25
jcastromathiaz, who's handling the scheduling for server track UDS things?20:26
BerRMaNyAthanks reepicheep20:27
Reepicheepnp20:45
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mneptokmathiaz: if you'd like, you can make maria-captains the assignee for that MariaDB blueprint20:58
mathiazmneptok: we don't need an assignee for now20:58
mathiazmneptok: just a drafter :)20:58
mathiazmneptok: and an approver (probably mdz)20:59
mneptokmathiaz: whatever you think is best, dear.20:59
mneptokmathiaz: wait, you're not my wife. damn this programming.20:59
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uvirtbotNew bug: #474660 in drbd8 (universe) "drbd8-utils not dependent on drbd8-source" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47466021:21
alex88i have a vps and i want to offer some free shells, is there a package that can help me in shell limitations, limit user space etc?21:37
nothing_cleverSome one think they can help me configure apache2 use /home/user_name/apache2www instead of /var/www?21:40
alex88nothing_clever: you can use /home/user_name/public_html for every user21:43
alex88link www.site.com -> /var/www and www.site.com/~username/ -> /home/username/public_html21:44
Reepicheepalex88: have you looked at rssh?21:45
preesidentyes............quem bom deu certo a instalação do server21:45
preesidentagora cade o povo para me ajudar;;;;;21:46
alex88Reepicheep: nope, i'll search for it21:46
preesidentcomo faço para mudar a senha do su21:46
alex88preesident: english please21:46
preesidentsorry21:46
preesidenthello anyone...i am finish start the ubuntu serve now, how can i change the password to su root21:46
alex88sudo passwd root if you're in sudoers, if you are root just passwd21:47
preesidentafter instalation how can i change this password...21:48
preesidenti put only one user and pass i dont put any password to su, anf to myqsl21:48
preesidentduring instalation i put two password, one to user, other to mysql21:49
alex88yeah, and what you want to change? root pass?21:49
nothing_cleveralex88: What do you mean I can use public_html? Don't I need to change some thing some where to do that?21:49
preesidentwhen i put su in terminal ask to password21:50
alex88preesident: so you have to do "sudo passwd root" than enter the password you want as root21:50
preesidenthum...its exctly what i want to do, put this pass...21:50
alex88nothing_clever: you can use userdir mod if you want that every one has their public_html folder..21:51
alex88nothing_clever: but you want to change the site root dir of apache?21:51
preesidentok, now its clear, thanks very much to send me this informations, i am happy with your words.21:52
preesidentalexx8821:52
preesidentsorry alex8821:52
preesidentplease, how can i make configurantions by graphical in another computer via ssh21:53
alex88preesident: using graphical menus etc?21:53
preesidentyes21:53
alex88i think that you have to install a graphical envoirment...and use X11 forward via ssh..what you want to graphical configure?21:54
preesidentis it, i need make configurations to hotspot server, i have two ethernet here in this server and one its to conect internet and other its to conect AP (public clients), and i want to do this configs.21:54
alex88so configure something like dhcp, dns and internet forwarding?21:55
prohibitedhi21:55
preesidentyes21:56
preesidentfirewall, CBQ, SQUID,21:56
nothing_cleveralex88: Here's what it is. I am trying to get ampache (web based music broadcasting program) up and running. The last step needed is to give it access to a music folder. I want to use the folder out of my home directory. ampache will only see what it can see from the web on the server. My plan is to put the root directory web page in my home folder then place my music in there leaving a symlink to it in my home folder.21:57
prohibitedhow can I set the display size on ubuntu server 9.10 (I'm running it on VMWare Fusion)21:57
alex88preesident: oh..mmhh..you have to install on the server a graphical enviroment..then remote desktop to it21:57
preesidentits like winbox and mikrotik configurations, do you know...?21:57
alex88preesident: nope, never tried21:58
alex88nothing_clever: you have to set only the music dir on all the ampache root?21:58
prohibitedsomeone for my question ?21:59
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alex88prohibited: resolution?22:00
prohibitedyes22:00
prohibitedin console mode22:00
alex88mmhh..never used ubuntu server with a desktop enviroment22:00
prohibitedno22:00
prohibitedwihout desktop environment22:01
alex88uh console mode..wait22:01
nothing_cleveralex88: I need to make http://localhost/Music go to /home/user/apache2www/Music to make ampache work correctly.22:01
prohibitedI tried with Grub 2 config. But it didn't work22:02
* zul is begining to hate windows 722:03
alex88nothing_clever: tried to make a symlink a use FollowSymLinks in apache22:03
prohibitedAnd with dpkg-reconfigure console-setup, I can set font size, but the min value is too high22:03
nothing_cleveralex88: Not even remotely going to work.22:04
prohibitedzul: why ?22:04
zulprohibited: because it doesnt play nice with samba22:04
prohibitedlol22:04
uvirtbotNew bug: #474423 in samba (main) "Files no longer visible from a Mac OS-X.5.8 Public Share" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47442322:04
alex88prohibited: tried with vga=xxx in grub config?22:04
preesidentwhci one graphical enviroment do you know ?22:05
preesidentwhich one ?22:05
alex88preesident: i use gnome with unbut desktop..never used in server22:05
prohibitedalex88: I tried. But it's for grub legacy. With Grub 2, you have to set an option in /ect/default/grub22:06
prohibitedbut it doesn't work22:06
preesidentok, but how can i make configurations of server configurations via graphical in gnome, have any soft to do this ?22:07
alex88with grub_gfxmode?22:07
prohibitedyes22:07
mushroombluezul: does win7 play nice with a Ubuntu PDC with OpenLDAP/Samba?22:07
prohibitedi tried22:07
zulmushroomblue: it shoul22:08
zulshould22:08
preesidentok, i undestand about server with no graphical, but how can i config every steps in server, like firewall, band control, users, hotspot....etc etcv....22:10
preesidentwhich one distro its the best to do this hotspot wireless server ? please.22:10
alex88preesident: read the ubuntu wiki..22:11
preesidentok22:11
preesidentalex88 do you have make this configs ?22:12
alex88preesident: if i've done it?22:13
alex88you can use ebox..it's a web interface that can really help you22:14
prohibitedalex88: I search on forums, with google etc. I can't find a solution. I hoped someone have the solution here. But I think the last ubuntu is very different so I have to wait. Maybe the solution is to use SSH (but it's crazy to do that when you have a windows displaying the guest OS)22:14
preesidenthelp me to undestand how can i make this configs, firewall, CBQ, users control login....22:14
alex88try to install ebox, it's more simple to configure a server with it..22:15
preesidenthow can i get this ebox22:15
mushroomblueyou people are recommending ebox? on purpose?22:16
mushroombluedo you actually like it?22:16
mushroomblueit makes my soul ache.22:16
ScottKWorse than webmin?22:16
mushroombluefar worse.22:16
mushroombluebut that's just me.22:16
ScottKOK.22:16
alex88sudo apt-get install ebox-all..try it22:16
alex88mushroomblue: if you have better solutions talk, or if you want you can configure all to him22:17
* ScottK has yet to have to try to figure of a postfix bug caused by ebox dorking up config files. Not true for webmin22:17
preesidentok, i dont have conection internet in the server , i am in other computer,22:17
preesidenti am in search page finding22:18
mushroomblueI was told that suggesting webmin, even if it doesn't pollute all sorts of places on your install like ebox, isn't allowed.22:18
preesidentplease take a look in this page22:18
preesidenthttp://trac.ebox-platform.com/wiki/Document/Documentation/InstallationGuide22:18
preesidentits waht a want ?22:18
xperia2hello to all. i have problems with my bind9 server that i have setup. it should now all works but for some reason it tell me that my dns server si not availble22:20
xperia2my domain is www.wificom.ch22:21
preesidentoh my god, wich one i can use ebox or webmin ?22:21
alex88preesident: that's the page22:21
xperia2and my fix ip adress is 80.254.182.24922:21
xperia2this here is my iptables22:21
mushroombluehere comes the flood22:21
xperia2http://pastebin.com/d28fff019it looks all right !22:22
xperia2http://pastebin.com/d28fff019it looks all right !22:22
xperia2http://pastebin.com/d28fff01922:22
xperia2it looks all right !22:22
xperia2dont know where the problem could be22:22
alex88xD22:22
xperia2this here show me that the dns server is alive at least from the lan22:23
xperia2http://pastebin.com/22:23
xperia2whats the problem. why can my dns not resolve dns querys from the wan ? it looks like it dont answer !22:24
xperia2i have followed the wiki page for settng up a Primary Master Server DNS https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto22:25
alex88xperia2: tried with firewall conf?22:25
alex88restarted firewall?22:25
alex88does it listen from all interfaces? try with "netstat -tap" to check it22:25
xperia2http://pastebin.com/dd1a4fb22:26
xperia2this is from my web server22:26
xperia2i will do now the same on the router22:26
xperia2http://pastebin.com/d7f754b3b22:28
xperia2this is from my router22:28
xperia2hmm is this normal that i dont have the port 53 listed in the laspastebin22:29
alex88192.168.1.90:domain && localhost:domain it just listen to localhost and lan22:29
alex88is it connected to internet with lan? (192.168.1.90??)22:30
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xperia2i have followed this ubuntu wiki howto22:32
xperia2https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto#Primary%20Master%20Server%20configuration22:32
alex880.0.0.0:domain so your router is listening to port 53.. tell me the ip please22:32
xperia2the ipadress of the dns server is 80.254.182.24922:32
alex88ok, port 53 is open22:33
xperia2great then this must be a missconfiguration ! but how can this be i followed every step as described in the wiki22:33
alex88"www.google.it A record query refused by zux182-249.adsl.green.ch" have you forward to other dns set?22:34
xperia2give me a moment only22:35
xperia2the file named.conf was not changed and looks as follow http://pastebin.com/d45314a2e22:36
alex88you have to edit named.conf.options22:36
xperia2named.conf.options was changed and looks as folow http://pastebin.com/d5435dbe022:37
xperia2named.conf.options looks as folow http://pastebin.com/d4e0eb47822:37
xperia2maybe this is the problem22:38
alex88uncomment lines 13,14,1522:38
alex88restart22:38
alex88and re-try22:38
StrangeCharm_what's the program that's like screen, with with the sweet tabbar along the bottom?22:41
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xperia2alex88: i have tested the dns server at the domain registrator page and this is what it tell me http://pastebin.com/d5d232ef522:44
vladanian_Hi guys, where's the best place to ask about UEC?22:45
alex88xperia2: have you done what i've said?22:46
xperia2yes i have done it. controlling it again22:46
xperia2yes it was done. the changed file looks like this http://pastebin.com/d5d232ef522:47
xperia2and i have also rebooted the bind9 erver as follow22:47
alex88that' the registrator page report22:47
xperia2sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 restart22:47
xperia2i have found a command called dig and this is here the output http://pastebin.com/d75f484b822:49
bogeyd6xperia did you check the named.conf to make sure your dns server is listening on all ports?22:50
bogeyd6xperia wificom.ch.             604800  IN      A       192.168.1.9022:50
bogeyd6192.* is an internal IP address only22:51
alex88bogeyd6: yeah it's working..but it refuses queries..22:51
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alex88look here:22:52
bogeyd6k22:52
alex88host www.google.it 80.254.182.249 -> www.google.it A record query refused by zux182-249.adsl.green.ch22:52
alex88host wificom.ch 80.254.182.249 -> wificom.ch              A       192.168.1.9022:53
xperia2bogeyd6: i dont have any entry in the fille named.conf that contain the server ip number and my domain name22:53
alex88so it's just misconfigured22:53
mushroomblueanyone know why I can ssh to a machine internally, but it refuses/times out if connected through a NAT?22:53
mushroomblueaccording to router and switch, NAT is passing traffic through to the server22:53
mushroombluelast time this happened, I reinstalled, and it magically responded.22:54
mushroombluebut that's not exactly a fix.22:54
xperia2why that i have followed the ubutu help wiki page for setting up a primary dns server and there was no mention to edit this file22:54
bogeyd6mushroom you cannot go internal external internal22:54
mushroombluebogeyd6: I don't think that's what I'm doing.22:54
bogeyd6xperia2 the ip address of 192.* is not a valid internet address (unless you are using internal only)22:54
xperia2this is the file named.conf http://pastebin.com/d45314a2e22:55
alex88xperia2: post named.conf.local and named.conf.options22:55
xperia2alex88: named.conf.local http://pastebin.com/d45314a2e22:56
bogeyd6and /etc/bind/named.conf.options ?22:57
xperia2named.conf.options http://pastebin.com/d332c44b722:57
alex88xperia2: named.conf == named.conf.local???22:58
bogeyd6host wificom.ch localhost22:58
xperia2ohh sorry my mistake22:58
bogeyd6why is forwarding setup if you want this to be your dns server?22:59
alex88bogeyd6: cause it tell me that it's the dns of its lan, cause it own domain is resolved22:59
xperia2named.conf.localhttp://pastebin.com/d5797d6b922:59
bogeyd6xperia2 what is the results of host wificom.ch localhost23:00
bogeyd6host wificom.ch localhost"23:00
bogeyd6sans the "23:00
xperia2http://pastebin.com/d3138153523:01
bogeyd6i am gonna go back and look at your iptables23:01
bogeyd6am i to assume you dont have a gateway/firewall/router that you didnt configure?23:02
bogeyd6xperia2 it says "domain"23:03
xperia2this here are the iptables of my router http://pastebin.com/d6dbf558e23:04
bogeyd6xperia2 explain how you connect to the internet from the dns server23:05
bogeyd6everything says it should be working23:05
alex88bogeyd6: the server is accessible from outside..23:05
alex88bogeyd6: but it doesn't resolv anything else than it's domain23:05
xperia2well i have my server connected to my router with a static ip adress 192.168.1.9023:06
bogeyd6xperia2 http://pastebin.com/d5d232ef5  says the dns server is unreachable23:07
xperia2well alex88 told me that he was able to see my dns server from outside if i am not wrong23:08
xperia2so the firewall should be not the problem23:08
xperia2or i am wrong23:08
bogeyd6ok you are right, i tried 80.254.182.24923:08
xperia2did you tryed also port 5323:08
xperia2port 80 is working great23:09
bogeyd6then what are we doing?23:09
bogeyd6http://80.254.182.249  does not work23:09
bogeyd6dns://80.254.182.249  does work23:09
xperia2strange inside the lan http://80.254.182.249 works23:10
bogeyd6i stand corrected, it does work, just very slowly23:10
alex88Starting Nmap 4.76 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2009-11-04 23:10 UTC23:10
alex88Interesting ports on zux182-249.adsl.green.ch (80.254.182.249):23:10
alex88Not shown: 998 filtered ports23:10
alex88PORT   STATE SERVICE23:10
alex8853/tcp open  domain23:10
alex8880/tcp open  http23:10
xperia2ahhh okay23:11
bogeyd6!pastebin | alex8823:11
ubottualex88: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at  http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic23:11
xperia2dont know what exactly  the problem is but in last time ubuntu server has heavy lags23:12
bogeyd6xperia2 are we to assume you want people to be able to go to www.wificom.ch23:12
alex88the problem is the domani config, cause it refuses everything else then wificom.ch23:12
xperia2why is that a problem? as first i want to run only this domain as i dont have others23:12
alex88xperia2: paste /etc/bind/db.wificom.ch23:13
xperia2in some days i want to be able to run some subdomains but this is a second class problem23:13
xperia2okay i will past it23:13
bogeyd6we should invent a pastebin command line tool23:13
xperia2alex88: http://pastebin.com/d1f8af47b23:14
bogeyd6should wificom.ch resolve to 80.254.182.249 or 192.168.1.9023:14
smosererichammond, at some point i think you gave a url to some cloud search site... that like crawled images available on different cloud offerings and aggregated them23:16
smoserany idea what that is/was?23:16
alex8880.254.182.249 i think23:16
bogeyd6it depends on who is using the dns server, internal or external23:17
xperia2it need to be as first external23:17
xperia2and if possible only also internal23:18
bogeyd6change the A records to be 80.254.182.249 not the 192.*23:18
xperia2okay23:18
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bogeyd6restart named23:19
bogeyd6erp :P23:19
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xperia2just restarting the bind923:19
bogeyd6do a sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 restart23:19
smosererichammond, never mind. for anyone else: http://thecloudmarket.com/23:19
xperia2okay restarted23:20
bogeyd6ok the records are resolving correctly23:20
xperia2should i try again to test again now with the domain registrator tool if the dns server is working correct ?23:20
bogeyd6now you must go to your registrar and set up your host to be the name server23:21
bogeyd6Typically, depending on who you registered with you setup a host called ns and then you set your nameserver for the domain to be ns.wificom.ch23:22
xperia2ahh okay i have this allready. i was able to register a nameserver for my domain called ns.wificom.ch that point to my ip static ip adress23:23
bogeyd6sometimes they make you set two name servers (all mine have) and you just make two hosts at the registrar for ns and ns2 but make them the same ip address23:23
alex88xperia2: that's what you need23:23
bogeyd6ns.wificom.ch doesnt resolve to an ip address23:24
alex88www.wificom.ch A record has zero ttl23:24
xperia2hmmm strange but it should. on the other side it could be that it dont work becouse i need it to pay it first. i can check at least if dns is working on the domain page23:25
bogeyd6LAWL23:26
bogeyd6xperia2 you need to call the registrar and have them fix it23:27
xperia2okay gimme a second to test now the dnsserver if ir works. but on the other side if ns.wificom.ch dont resolve it will probably not work23:28
preesidentalex88 thanks for all, you are a grat person .23:28
preesidentgreat23:28
uvirtbotNew bug: #370877 in chkrootkit (main) "package chkrootkit 0.48-5 failed to install/upgrade: short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/chkrootkit/strings-static')" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37087723:31
alex88preesident: no problem man.. glad to help! XD23:31
preesidentif you want anything from Natal Brazil, call-me.23:32
xperia2bogeyd6: it looks now much better ! some errors disapeared http://pastebin.com/d112826bc23:32
preesidentonly i can send arm, drugs and woman....but the rest i can... :-)23:32
preesidenti cant send23:32
xperia2this is the old test http://pastebin.com/d5d232ef523:33
alex88preesident: damn, i'm in italy..and all that i want are women... =)23:33
bogeyd6xperia2 you need an A record for ns.wificom.ch23:34
xperia2i need a A record ?23:34
xperia2isnt this allready in the file ?23:35
bogeyd6ns     IN      A       80.254.182.24923:35
xperia2let me check23:35
bogeyd6then restart bind9, then rerun your dns tool23:36
xperia2wooow why does ubuntu server hangs for at least 5 seconds everytime i try to sudo23:36
bogeyd6lets finish dns first23:37
bogeyd6!noroot23:37
ubottuWe do not support having a root password set. See !root and !wfm for more information.23:37
bogeyd6although i always set one and just SU root, but i come from the SuSe world23:37
alex88SU root is fine also in ubuntu...have one too..XD23:37
xperia2okay this is my actual file db.wificom.ch23:38
xperia2http://pastebin.com/d682bb4623:38
mushroomblue!wfm23:39
ubottuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/23:39
mushroombluehah.23:39
xperia2now if i understand right i need to add this line here23:39
xperia2ns IN A 80.254.182.24923:39
xperia2right ?23:39
bogeyd6right23:39
xperia2this line here dont has anything to do with this as it has also already ns ? @       IN      NS      ns.wificom.ch.23:40
xperia2or should i delete it ?23:40
bogeyd6leave it in23:40
bogeyd6ns record is a neccessity23:40
xperia2okay i will now reboot bind9 then23:41
alex88in irc to use a custom virtual host should i config my reverse query in my dns?23:41
bogeyd6yay xperia223:42
xperia2does it works :-) ?23:42
bogeyd6you should now rerun your registrar tool23:42
xperia2okay :-)23:42
xperia2woooow it looooks much much beter now ! it tell me a good sign with a small text "The name server does not fulfill all our recommendations." will now check the test result23:43
bogeyd6running one nameserver on one ip address is bound to cause some errors23:44
bogeyd6alex88 you should configure your reverse to get IRC to show it, They want to do a look up on the IP address and find a host name23:46
xperia2bogeyd6: you are absolutley right. this is the only thing what it warn about all other things are okay ! http://pastebin.com/d31a479ab23:46
xperia2WOOOOWWW i have now my own hosting solution ! you people here are great !23:47
bogeyd6ok now you need to tell the registrar to set the ns.wificom.ch to your name server23:47
bogeyd6or however you have that part going23:47
xperia2okay23:47
xperia2 will look for this23:48
bogeyd6!apache2 @ xperia223:48
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:48
bogeyd6!apache2 | xperia223:48
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about apache223:48
bogeyd6!apache | xperia223:48
ubottuxperia2: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)23:48
bogeyd6you are going to need that next for virtual hosts and etc....23:48
bogeyd6adios23:48
xperia2i have allready running virtual hosts23:48
xperia2okay bogeyd6: cant tell you how much i want to tank you and alex for the help23:49
xperia2you have done a great job !23:49
alex88glad to help..XD23:56
alex88going to bed..cya tomorrow guys23:59
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