[01:45] <hads> That's interesting. I just did a reinstall on my oldest slave backend and somehow the tuner on my master backend got deleted.
[02:52] <mersault> hmmm... I selected to install the vnc service when installing my backend, but how do I enable and use it?
[03:08] <mersault> Does mythmusic work with storage groups, or is it still necessary to grab that off a local directory or NFS mount?
[03:08] <mersault> in 9.10, that is
[03:22] <hads> No mythmusic doens't
[03:46] <rcampbel> ubuntu 9.04 x64 clean reinstall. Moving to 0.22... added mythbuntu repo. installed most mythtv 0.22 pkgs. config incomplete. Now, I see upgraded mkgs available, but many of the want to remove existing pkgs - are there dep probs with the 0.22-fixes for jaunty?
[03:46] <hads> Why not go with Karmic?
[03:47] <tgm4883> rcampbel, hmm, which repo?
[03:48] <tgm4883> superm1, ping
[03:49] <tgm4883> hads, rcampbel looks like the PPA's are backed up
[03:49] <rcampbel> hads: because its my living room entertainment ctr, i.e. production host
[03:53] <tgm4883> rcampbel, I would hold off on upgrading for a few days. Looks like the PPA's are backed up from the release. It should all be sorted after a while
[03:53] <tgm4883> basically what happened is all the amd64 packages built, but we are still waiting on i386
[03:54] <rcampbel> I'm trying a new install on 0.22 on 9.04 from the PPAs on X64
[03:54] <rcampbel> not as smooth as in the past
[03:54] <tgm4883> and IIRC, mythtv-common is a arch independent package, thus built on the i386 servers
[03:54] <tgm4883> well, it's only not smooth, because the PPA's are so backed up
[03:54] <tgm4883> which is because they moved some servers for release
[03:55] <mersault> a new install of 9.10 is WAY smoother than a new install of 9.04 was
[03:55] <tgm4883> either way, don't upgrade from the mythbuntu-repos if you are on 64-bit for a few days
[03:56] <mersault> tgm4883: will that affect us 9.10 users as well?
[03:56] <tgm4883> mersault, yes
[03:57] <tgm4883> well, let me check, but probably
[03:57] <hads> If you were using Karmic then you don't need to bother with PPAs
[03:57] <tgm4883> looks like it is affecting karmic, jaunty, and intrepid
[03:57] <tgm4883> hads, not even for the latest mythtv builds?
[03:58] <tgm4883> hads, the PPA should contain newer packages than karmic has
[03:58] <hads> Yeah but nothing much has changed since 0.22.0+fixes22594 really.
[03:58] <hads> i.e. it works.
[03:59] <tgm4883> what about RC2?
[04:02] <hads> rc2 isn't in karmic but what I'm saying is that not a whole lot has changed. So a general user could just use karmic without issues.
[04:02] <mrand> I don't know... I'd prefer running the latest on the rc2 branch.  there are some bug fixes, with more to come still: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset?new=22679%40branches%2Frelease-0-22-fixes&old=22594%40branches%2Frelease-0-22-fixes
[04:04] <mrand> (that diff ignores a ton of documentation changes 2 days ago)
[04:04] <mrand> s/rc2/fixes
[04:04] <hads> That diff isn't much really.
[04:05] <hads> Theme fixes, and a couple of crashes that a general user may not ever run into.
[04:06] <mrand> You're correct, each is not huge - but at the same time, each is also important enough that they it was worth holding up the release even longer to make the changes.
[04:06] <mrand> the problem is that our user base is so large, some users WILL run into it.
[04:06] <hads> *shrug*
[04:06] <hads> Least it's installable.
[04:07] <mrand> Then we'll be stuck dealing with bug reports on things that have already been fixed.
[04:18] <Essobi> or it's for leopard
[04:20] <Essobi> Should I have to use AppleHDA patcher?
[04:26] <Essobi> Mmm.. doesn't look like it.
[04:44] <mersault> Just so I make sure, if I want jamu to be it's most effective then I should make sure all the tv shows I have have all the data in their filenames necessary to find them (title - 1x01 - subtitle.avi, for instance), because it doesn't look at the folder structure at all, correct?
[04:50] <Essobi> MEh... I've gotten no where.
[04:57] <Essobi> lol.. wrong window
[05:07] <styelz> hi, since upgrading to 9.10, i have an issue with audio sharing (i think). if i have Mythfrontend open i cant use any other app to access audio. is that normal?
[05:13] <mrand> styelz: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/460579 for potential work-arounds
[05:18] <styelz> wow, thanks mrand. worked
[05:27] <mrand> styelz: No problem.  Thank the users that found that work-around.  Hopefully 9.10 will have audio (finally) sorted out.
[05:44] <hads> 10.04?
[05:45] <mrand> indeed, hads.  thanks.
[12:50] <superm1> tgm4883, pong
[13:13] <oobe> ping
[17:17] <Ray1> hello, thanks in advance for any help...I have just upgraded to mythbuntu 9.10 and it is working great.  I noticed the mythweb streaming via flowplayer works great, with one exception.  Is there a way to skip around within the video?  If I try, it starts the video over at the begining
[17:20] <mrand> Ray1: I'm not 100% sure, but I seem to recall that seeking is not currently supported.
[17:44] <Ray1> thanks mrand, i will keep an eye out for news on this...is there a low-flow rss feed that annouces these sorts of things?
[17:49] <MythbuntuGuest60> I am trying to install Mythbuntu over Vista 64. I can't make a bootable Live CD.  I downloaded mythbuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso and burned it to a CD, I tried extracting to a CD too. No joy. The PC ignores the cd and boots Vista. I made both boot drives the CD to force the issue and then I get a non system disk error.  What am I doing wrong?
[17:59] <superm1> running away after 4 minutes without an answer
[18:15] <mishehu> superm1: you weren't quick enough!  how dare you be busy with other things!  *grin*
[18:20] <superm1> hehe
[18:22] <duffrecords> I think I have some incorrect information in my mythconverg database.  I can watch a particular channel, but if I try to record it, this error is in the log: Could not find channel 9_1 in TVCT
[18:22] <duffrecords> the other channels are fine
[18:44] <MythbuntuGuest23> I submitted my question, I don't understand how this chat works to return an answer (then I guess I won't get this one either)
[18:49] <mrand> MythbuntuGuest23: there are (sometimes) other people in this channel that might know the answer to your question and will answer it.
[18:49] <mrand> Other times, either no-one is near their computer, or they don't know the answer.
[18:50] <mrand> As for your CD, are you trying to install Mythbuntu within a Windows NTFS partition?
[18:55] <MythbuntuGuest23> Yes
[18:56] <mrand> If you put the CD in the drive after Windows has booted up, and you open an explorer window to "my computer", you should see all your drives, including the CD drive.  What happens when you double click the drive there?
[18:57] <superm1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto would be useful
[18:57] <superm1> pending your response, it sounds like you just might have been burning incorrectly
[18:58] <MythbuntuGuest23> I get a list of folders and files including Wubi.exe
[18:58] <superm1> what tool were you using to burn?  the boot sector of the image won't get properly added if you just "extract" to the DVD
[18:59] <MythbuntuGuest23> I used the windows tool and just told it to extract to the CD.
[18:59] <superm1> Yeah, that won't work
[18:59] <superm1> follow that link i posted above, and it will explain to you a couple of ways to do it from windows
[19:00] <superm1> if you have a spare USB stick w/ at least 1 gig free, it's also got directions on how to do it from a USB stick
[19:01] <MythbuntuGuest23> Great, thanks, My USB stick is too small for that.
[20:42] <williammanda> The screen saver stays enabled during the use of mythtv videos & recordings. My frontend log says that DPMS is disabled. Also I installed ubuntu 9.10 then mythtv via the mythtv control center. This is the first time for this problem over several mythtv versions. Any ideas?
[20:43] <williammanda> Also the problem is occuring on two computers in my mythtv network.
[21:04] <MythbuntuGuest60> need help, I'm adding a 2nd hard drive to my mythbuntu 8.04 with .21 svn updates, and I want to put videos into it so mythvideo will show both locations, I have read lvm is an option, what is my simplest option to do this
[21:05] <hads> The easyest way would be just using the two drives separately.
[21:06] <hads> In the mythtv settings just add the paths like so; /mnt/videos:/mnt/new-drive
[21:06] <hads> Hmm, easiest.
[21:19] <MythbuntuGuest60> cool, thanks
[21:20] <MythbuntuGuest60> will doing it by adding one path on 1 hard drive, the other on #2 hard drive, and when i go to the video page, it will show videos in both paths?  Does this also work for mythtv files?
[21:21] <hads> No for recordings you use storage groups
[21:23] <MythbuntuGuest60> ok, so Storage groups when I start using mythtv for recordings, and this method for videos.  My blu-ray's are filling my drive, but I want to keep it, so I'm just adding another TB tonight, thanks.
[21:23] <hads> When using 0.22 you would use storage groups for both
[21:24] <MythbuntuGuest60> i'll have to check, i had to do the vdpau updates, I thought it was .21, maybe it is .22
[21:24] <hads> If you're using 8.04 it will be 0.21
[21:24] <MythbuntuGuest60> is there a link on setting up storage groups?
[21:24] <MythbuntuGuest60> ok, so I do have .21 then, thx
[21:25] <MythbuntuGuest60> do you know if current myth updates support HD-DTS soudn?
[21:25] <hads> Storage Groups page on the mythtv wiki should tell you
[21:25] <hads> I magine so
[21:26] <MythbuntuGuest60> i haven't seen it in any supported lists yet, so i have to strip the sound down to dts to make it work
[21:32] <MythbuntuGuest60> Anbody know how to make HD-DTS sound from a ripped blu-ray show up with 8.04 and .21 svn updates, all else is well and stripping sound down works fine
[21:36] <hads> Maybe it doesn't
[21:37] <MythbuntuGuest60> i use the mythfrontend player, "i think", but i'm wondering if ffmpeg or mplayer has fixed this, as the problem seems to be ffmpeg can't see it, it is a known issue, just not sure if it is resolved
[22:39] <superm1> williammanda, there is an open bug on that
[22:39] <superm1> it's a bug in gnome-screensaver
[22:39] <superm1> it's not properly responding to --poke
[23:20] <hads> Odd that I'm not running into it with the frontend that's using gnome here.