[00:15] <Ollonk> hey guys
[00:17] <Ollonk> I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and now my synaptics touch pad doesn't work
[00:17] <Ollonk> anyone have any ideas?
[00:32] <Tonno> how do i remove every program of GNOME and only stay with XFCE.
[00:32] <Tonno> ?
[00:42] <mark__> Help- installed new release, now computer won't shut-down
[00:43] <Tonno> mark__, did you tried with sudo reboot ?
[00:44] <mark__> no - am newbie; shut-down from desktop returns me to command line - ubuntu 9.10 login
[00:45] <Tonno> open the terminal
[00:46] <Tonno> do you know where the terminal is?
[00:46] <mark__> yes - am familiar with it; have it open now
[00:47] <lontra> is there an indicator applet for xubutu?
[00:48] <Tonno> mark__, write there
[00:48] <Tonno> sudo reboot
[00:48] <Tonno> and enter
[00:48] <mark__> no - showing@ubuntu in terminal
[00:49] <Tonno> lontra, i really dont think so but im not sure
[00:49] <Tonno> mark__, what? :S
[00:49] <lontra> i would love to see one :) and it work with thunderbird
[00:50] <mark__> think when upgraded only ended with partial installation
[00:51] <mark__> will try sudo reboot from terminal
[00:51] <mark__> thanks for your help
[00:54] <Tonno> some here have another Hard Disk and Can't mount it on xubuntu?
[01:06] <Animagladius> Huhu.
[01:19] <Tonno> how do i remove every program of GNOME and only stay with XFCE?
[01:32] <troy_> hello
[01:32] <troy_> who can help me please? problems with sound under karmic
[02:08] <MikeChelen> after updating 9.04 -> 9.10, all panels are gone, and settings -> panels doesn't load, any suggestions?
[02:21] <oorah> where can i find drivers for my samsung delve phone, i wanna use my phone as a modem.
[02:24] <wrgb> MikeChelen: hang on a minute, checking something
[02:24] <MikeChelen> wrgb: okey sure, thanks :)
[02:27] <wrgb> look in synaptic package manager for xfce4-panel and see it it is installed
[02:32] <wrgb> MikeChelen: u there
[02:32] <MikeChelen> yah, one sec
[02:35] <MikeChelen> wrgb: yup it is installed
[02:36] <wrgb> MikeChelen: try removing it, then installing it again -- then see if settings > panel brings up the panel dialog
[02:36] <_Techie_> wait
[02:36] <_Techie_> have you tried just launching it
[02:36] <_Techie_> alt+F2 and run xfce4-panel
[02:36] <MikeChelen> wrgb: ok cool, ill try that
[02:37] <_Techie_> MikeChelen, before you go re installing it please attempt to load it manually
[02:37] <MikeChelen> okey, trying that now
[02:38] <MikeChelen> nothing seems to happen
[02:38] <_Techie_> kk, now that we have found that its not that it just isnt loading, feel free to re install it
[02:38] <_Techie_> i would hate to have you re install it just because it wasnt loaded
[02:39] <MikeChelen> ok cool, thanks
[02:39] <MikeChelen> yeah its strange, tried opening from settings and the menu item too, but nothing happens
[02:41] <MikeChelen> is it better to remove and install or to use --reinstall?
[02:41] <wrgb> MikeChelen: you'll have to load it manually or log out and log in after you reinstall it
[02:42] <wrgb> MikeChelen: I would remove and install
[02:43] <MikeChelen> wrgb: ok, thanks
[03:02] <wrgb> MikeChelen: I have to leave, but if that doesn't fix it you need to find out with xfconf file contains the entries for the panel - I'm not sure
[03:03] <MikeChelen> wrgb: ok thanks, ill check that file next if it still isn't working
[03:14] <HowardtheDuck> hey
[03:14] <HowardtheDuck> what's up
[03:17] <likemindead> !hi | HowardtheDuck
[03:18] <HowardtheDuck> not a very active chat for Xubuntu eh
[04:10] <Tonno> hi to all :)
[04:13] <Howardth1Duck> hey
[04:13] <Howardth1Duck> whats up
[04:20] <Tonno> Howardth1Duck, me good now, i was getting mad with my hard disk 2, because xubuntu wont mount it :)
[04:20] <Tonno> and u what up?
[04:27] <Tonno> one question? i can change the login background on xubuntu 9.10 right?
[04:29] <likemindead> !gdm
[04:29] <likemindead> !GDM
[04:29] <likemindead> Hmm...
[04:29] <Tonno> O_O...
[04:30] <Tonno> !xdm
[04:30] <Tonno> okkk....
[04:51] <Tonno> where is the directory of the file to change the driver of my graphic card?
[04:59] <Animagladius> Night! :)
[07:30] <than0> how do I install sound themes under karmic xubuntu? thanks.
[07:37] <petsounds> hi. just installing xubuntu karmic, and i can't find windows hard drive. i'm looking in /media but still can't find the drive. please help. thanks :)
[07:47] <|Logitech|> petsounds, go to Accessories -> catfish
[07:48] <than0> ah..
[07:48] <than0> Xubuntu tripped me for a few minutes.
[07:48] <|Logitech|> and select other
[07:48] <|Logitech|> and you see all drives
[07:48] <than0> after taking much time doing netinstall, I was greeted with Linux x86_64, which confused me a lot
[07:49] <than0> "did I install" i386? where's amd64 kernel?
[07:49] <than0> I guess they changed naming convention in Karmic
[07:50] <petsounds> |Logitech| : ok i see it with catfish and how can i add it into "places" ?
[07:52] <|Logitech|> mount from catfish
[07:52] <|Logitech|> and go to /media/
[07:52] <|Logitech|> right click sent to
[07:52] <|Logitech|> :)
[07:53] <|Logitech|> you can add into fstab for automount
[07:54] <petsounds> |Logitech| : how can i add into fstab?
[07:54] <|Logitech|> first go to system -> system monitor
[07:55] <|Logitech|> in filesystems tab see what devide is your partition
[07:55] <|Logitech|> ex: /dev/sda5
[07:55] <|Logitech|> did you find?
[07:56] <petsounds> |Logitech| : ok, im on system monitor
[07:56] <petsounds> |Logitech| : i find it, and then?
[07:56] <|Logitech|> how many partitions you have?
[07:57] <|Logitech|> in directory tab is partition name
[07:57] <|Logitech|> ex: /media/blablabla
[07:59] <petsounds> sda 1 for windows sda 6 for root and sda 7 for home
[07:59] <petsounds> |Logitech| : sda 1 for windows sda 6 for root and sda 7 for home
[08:02] <|Logitech|> which partition you want to insert in automount?
[08:02] <petsounds> |Logitech| : sda 1
[08:03] <|Logitech|> ok
[08:03] <|Logitech|> in terminal type
[08:03] <|Logitech|> sudo mousepad /etc/fstab
[08:04] <|Logitech|> on end of file add line
[08:04] <|Logitech|> /dev/sda1         /media/windows           auto
[08:05] <petsounds> |Logitech| : sth like, sudo mousepad /etc/fstab/dev/sda1/media/windows/auto ?
[08:05] <|Logitech|> no
[08:05] <|Logitech|> omg
[08:06] <|Logitech|> open fstab with mousepad
[08:06] <|Logitech|> on end of file add line
[08:06] <|Logitech|> /dev/sda1         /media/windows           auto
[08:06] <|Logitech|> with spacing
[08:06] <|Logitech|> press Tab key for spacing
[08:07] <|Logitech|> and save file
[08:10] <petsounds> ok
[08:10] <petsounds> thanks for your assistance :)
[08:12] <|Logitech|> :)
[11:36] <blip-> hi,  can anyone tell me the name of the xubuntu task manager ?  It's not the xfce file manager, at least on 9.04.   i'm trying to run it from command line
[13:05] <floating_> any tips i should try to get audio working ? i'm using headphones, and when I run the alsamixer command, 1 have "headphone jack sense [off]" but I don't know how to switch it on ...
[13:05] <floating_> maybe that is it
[13:10] <Balsaq> is anyone using OS cloning software?
[13:37] <petsounds> hi all, how can i enabling desktop effect on xubuntu karmic? thanks
[13:40] <TheSheep> !compiz | petsounds
[13:44] <wrgb> petsounds: click on System > Preferences > Appearance and choose the Visual Effects tab - click Normal or Extra -- Note -- extra may require you to download third party graphics driver -- go ahead, you display will run faster
[13:45] <petsounds> wrgb : im on xubuntu :)
[13:47] <wrgb> petsounds: sorry, I'm in ubuntu mode right now, checking
[13:49] <petsounds> wrgb : its ok :)
[13:53] <wrgb> petsounds: looks like you'll have to install compiz - in synaptic search for compiz to install - follow the howto at the link from ubottu above
[13:57] <petsounds> wrgb : ok.
[13:58] <petsounds> how can i change touchpad tapping on xubuntu? i got confuse cause when im on ubuntu 1 finger for left click 2 fingers for right click 3 fingers for open in new tab.
[13:59] <choi> Hi, I cannot start Ubuntu Software center. Says something about WebKitWebSettings not having a user-agent. I think it's related to epiphany-browser not starting
[14:03] <wrgb> petsounds: hang on a sec, booting slow xubuntu laptop with 256mb
[14:04] <petsounds> wrgb : ok take your time
[14:06] <Tonno> hi to all
[14:13] <wrgb> petsounds: sorry, don't see a way.  Ask again, or come back a little later -- there will be more people on this channel
[14:15] <petsounds> wrgb : how can i change touchpad tapping on xubuntu? i got confuse cause when im on ubuntu 1 finger for left click 2 fingers for right click 3 fingers for open in new tab.
[14:16] <Tonno> !gdm
[14:16] <Tonno> !ldm
[14:27] <petsounds> !resetpanels
[14:37] <petsounds> !resetpanels
[14:37] <floating_> can someone check what is the program called in ubuntu and xubuntu at system - admistration - language support ? I need this gui, I have trouble installing language support from command line
[14:42] <floating_> ok, language selector
[14:50] <petsounds> hi guys, i screwed up with my session, how can i reset it? thanks
[14:51] <TheSheep> petsounds: delete ~/.cache/sessions
[14:52] <petsounds> TheSheep : ok, i will reboot. thanks
[15:01] <petsounds> TheSheep : please take a look, http://imagebin.org/70580 i cannot move the window
[15:04] <wrgb> petsounds: try holding down the alt key and clicking anywhere on the window to move it
[15:06] <TheSheep> petsounds: press alt+f2 and type 'xfwm4'
[15:06] <TheSheep> without the ''
[15:08] <petsounds> The Sheep , wrgb , it works.. thanks a lot :)
[15:14] <Xubuntus> Hi, people! Anyone knows about bookmarkings and mediaplayers?
[15:15] <Xubuntus> I need to know if it is at all possible in Linux. (It probably is. :))
[15:15] <Xubuntus> It's for bookmarking different parts in a streaming.
[15:20] <Xubuntus> Seems you people are sleepy today. Not saying a word (about anything) :P.
[15:20] <Xubuntus> ;p
[15:23] <Sysi> or no one knows :S
[15:25] <Xubuntus> no one knows anything ;)
[15:25] <Xubuntus> ?
[15:27] <Sysi> i know pretty much about nothing :P
[15:28] <Xubuntus> Anyone with the MSI K9VGM-V motherboard?
[15:29] <petsounds> it is odd, i have cracking sounds when playing songs it stops when i exit exaile.
[15:31] <Xubuntus> Or at least the Realtek ALC883?
[15:34] <benchik> hello
[15:34] <subspider> hi
[15:34] <subspider> :D
[15:35] <subspider> hello Sysi
[15:36] <benchik> hello. how does xubuntu 9.10 work with nvidia mx4000?
[15:36] <Sysi> hi subspider
[15:37] <Sysi> xubuntu should work wel with nvidia
[15:37] <Sysi> how old is that?
[15:38] <Sysi> nvidia propietary drivers are good, if they're available
[15:39] <subspider> hey Sysi do yo know how to lock the screen ??
[15:40] <Sysi> ctrl alt and something
[15:40] <subspider> hahahaha
[15:40] <Sysi> maybe del
[15:41] <Sysi> that works
[15:41] <subspider> can't find that key on may board
[15:41] <Sysi> delete
[15:41] <subspider> nice thanks
[15:41] <subspider> it worked
[15:49] <Carnophage> anyone with a fresh instalation of Xubuntu 9.10? (not upgrade from 9.04)
[15:50] <Sysi> x2 o/
[15:51] <jessejazza> I've just started installed xubuntu. I've tried to change the screen resolution to 1024 x 768. It seemed to do the same as ubuntu 9.04 did - monitor beep. I tried grandr and that doesn't seem to work although it does work ok in ubuntu 9.10. Any one any ideas or have i found a bug.
[15:51] <jessejazza> carnophage: yes just installed it
[15:52] <Carnophage> could one of You please paste ls -al /etc/init.d and ls -al /etc/init on paste.ubuntu.com? I'm trying to clean init scripts after upgrade
[15:53] <Carnophage> already gained 10sec of boot time
[15:59] <petsounds> hi, i have cracking/scratchy sounds, this never happened before, i do nothing. please help
[16:09] <jessejazza> carnophage why do a fresh download. Xubuntu downloads in a fraction of the time that ubuntu takes
[16:15] <Carnophage> jessejazza: I don't want to do a fresh install (to much to configure it my way), I already have 9.10, just want to optimize it a bit, if I do a fresh install it won't be any Ubutnu based distribution
[16:16] <ehazlett> greetings all... i just wanted to drop a compliment to the team.  we recently added XFCE/Xubuntu support to our project and in testing i found that Xubuntu is getting very polished.  it looks really good.  (i'm a standard ubuntu/gnome user myself, but keeping an eye on XFCE), keep up the good work!
[16:58] <benchik> thanks
[17:19] <floating_> is it the terminal app or the desktop environment responsible for the preference of web browser when opened from a hyperlink
[17:24] <TheSheep> floating_: both, the terminal app has a setting, but it's set to 'desktop environemtn default' by default
[17:26] <floating_> where is the setting ? i have a lxde, but I wanted to install xfce4-terminal. it just that when I opened the chromium-browser I set it as a default browser, but terminal is not picking it up
[17:28] <floating_> .configure/Terminal/terminalrc doesn't have the setting
[17:29] <TheSheep> floating_: right-click somewhere in the terminal
[17:29] <TheSheep> floating_: and then 'preferences'
[17:30] <TheSheep> hmm... seems lik they removed that setting in newer versions, it's in default applications in settings then
[17:31] <floating_> default applications in settings ? some xfce thing ?
[17:35] <floating_> I can't find that kinda thing
[17:35] <floating_> but I don't have xubuntu
[17:44] <TheSheep> floating_: yeah, it's xfce's thing
[17:54] <dtox> hi..could anyone tell me the best mp3 player to go for !!
[17:54] <TheSheep> dtox: the one you write yourself
[17:55] <aigon> cmus
[17:56] <dtox> aigon: is that a player???
[17:56] <aigon> is fast
[17:56] <dtox> aigon: cmus...i ll go with that
[17:56] <TheSheep> I like the mpd
[17:57] <aigon> dtox, yeah!
[17:57] <dtox> aigon: thnkz a tonne mate
[17:57] <aigon> very good
[17:57] <aigon> lol
[17:58] <dtox> aigon: !!!!!!!!!!
[17:59] <aigon> dtox, try it and you will see!
[18:30] <benchik> is smbclient fixed in xubuntu 9.10?
[18:36] <jfo> My mouse does not work in xubuntu 9.10. What could be the problem?
[18:37] <jfo> can someone help me please?
[18:38] <Sysi> what kind of mouse?
[18:46] <jfo> I have problem with the mouse. Can someone help me?
[18:46] <TheSheep> no, unless you describe your problem a little better
[18:46] <TheSheep> our crystal balls went out of batteries
[18:47] <jfo> I can't move the coursor.
[18:48] <jfo> anywhere
[18:48] <jfo> the mouse is blocked.
[18:48] <TheSheep> since it works for all of us, there must be something special about your mouse or your computer that makes it not work. What's special in your mouse or computer?
[18:49] <jfo> i can't do anything with the mouse.
[18:49] <TheSheep> is the mouse connected to the computer?
[18:50] <Sysi> mark&model of mouse?
[18:50] <jfo> The mouse worked until a few momentes ago. (15 minutes)
[18:50] <TheSheep> what happened just before it stopped working?
[18:51] <TheSheep> is it a wireless mouse? are the batteries charged?
[18:51] <jfo> It just stopped sunddenly.
[18:52] <jfo> the mouse is connected with a cable.
[18:52] <TheSheep> did you try disconnecting it and connecting back?
[18:53] <jfo> no
[18:54] <jfo> I've disconnected it and does not work.
[18:55] <TheSheep> ok, can you open a terminal, type 'dmesg | tail' in it and pastebin the output?
[18:55] <jfo> I will try to open xterm.
[19:01] <jfo1> TheSheep: this is the link http://pastebin.com/f69/f217f6
[19:02] <TheSheep> Unknown post id, it may have expired or been deleted
[19:02] <TheSheep> got it
[19:03] <TheSheep> nothing about detecting your mouse, strange
[19:03] <TheSheep> is that an USB mouse?
[19:03] <jfo1> yes
[19:04] <jfo1> How to switch between terminal?
[19:04] <jfo1> I've 3 xterm console open.
[19:05] <jfo1> TheSheep: What's wrong with file?
[19:12] <subspider> it happen that to me to the mouse
[19:12] <TheSheep> subspider: and what was it?
[19:12] <subspider> you just have to plug the mouse to other usb port
[19:13] <subspider> i have a wireless mouse
[19:13] <subspider> whenever i umplug the wireless pen and pulg in with same port i couldn't mage to make it work
[19:14] <subspider> but if try on diferent port it worked
[19:14] <subspider> :D
[19:14] <subspider> don't ask me why i'm new at these
[19:14] <subspider> but i like it
[19:27] <harsha__> i m not able to connect through empathy as i am getting Network error
[19:28] <harsha__> i am not able to use neither of the accounts ie gtalk or yahoo
[19:28] <harsha__> please someone suggest me regarding this
[19:38] <subspider> hi
[19:38] <subspider> i need to know how to kill a process
[19:38] <Sysi> cli or graphical method?
[19:38] <TheSheep> system->system monitor
[19:39] <subspider> Sysi can i know cli way
[19:39] <subspider> i already solve but i i'm loving to learn these
[19:40] <Sysi> ps -e lists processes
[19:40] <Sysi> kill <pid number>
[19:40] <Sysi> or killall <program name> may work
[19:43] <subspider> thnk you
[19:43] <subspider> :)
[20:26] <Powderking> Hi all!
[20:26] <Powderking> I'm not sure if I'm right here: I have a question about screen resolution in Mythbuntu 9.10 AMD64.
[20:26] <Powderking> I can't select any higher resolution than 640x480 since I have updated to 9.10 (in Mythbuntu 8.04 AMD64 I was able to choose 1280x768).
[20:26] <Tonno> Hi :)
[20:26] <Powderking> Some system information:
[20:26] <Powderking> Monitor: Philips LCD TV 32PF7320/10
[20:26] <Powderking> Mainboard: Asus M4N72-E
[20:26] <Powderking> Graphics card: GeForce 9400 GT
[20:26] <Powderking> Nvidia driver: 185.18.36
[20:28] <Tonno> Someone here know a page that i can post and read news of Linux to be public faster?
[20:29] <Powderking> I tried to create a new modeline using gtf 800 600 59.94
[20:29] <Powderking> But I couldn't find the section "Monitor" in my xorg.conf as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1087922
[20:30] <Powderking> I created it and added a SubSection "Display" to the section "Screen" and rebootet.
[20:30] <Powderking> But it didn't work :(
[20:31] <Sysi> if you have nvidia and you use propietary drivers you should have nvidia's own settings
[20:34] <Powderking> @Sysi: Yes, I use nvidia. But when I want to set the resolution in nvidia-settings I can't go higher than 640x480
[20:34] <Sysi> that't what's bad in propietary drivers :P
[20:37] <Powderking> Sysi: :-) Should I try open source drivers? But I don't know how.
[20:38] <Sysi> free drivers propably are horrible :/
[20:39] <Powderking> But what good then ?
[20:40] <Tonno> Sysi, do you know how can i change the driver on xubuntu?
[20:40] <Sysi> i'm not good with driver issues
[20:40] <Tonno> ohhh ok
[20:41] <Sysi> somewhere in settings menu you can choose if use or not retricted driver
[20:43] <Addictus> Can anyone help me? I have a problem installing Xubuntu 9.04.
[20:47] <Powderking> Sysi: Thanks anyway.
[20:47] <Powderking> Addictus: I am a noob too but I can try...
[20:47] <Sysi> !ask
[20:50] <nikolam> hello to all :)
[20:51] <nikolam> anyone knows if I can get .jigdo files for xubuntu desktop i386 and amd64 ?
[20:51] <nikolam> (so that i reduce amount of data downloaded, since i already have ubuntu dvd`s
[20:54] <Tonno> Addictus, say what is your problem. Let see if someone can help you.
[21:39] <Tonno> Where i can download theme for xfwm4?
[21:39] <Sysi> xfce-look.org
[21:39] <Sysi> there themes → xfce
[21:39] <Tonno> Sysi, i cant find what i want in there :(
[21:40] <Sysi> make your own :)
[21:40] <Sysi> they're pretty easty
[21:40] <Sysi> *easy
[21:40] <Sysi> take something for example
[21:41] <Tonno> this? http://www.xfce-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/113537-1.jpg
[21:41] <Sysi> change colors, buttons etc
[21:42] <Tonno> i have my xfwm4 with transparency but the _[]X is not like that pic does http://www.xfce-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/113537-1.jpg
[21:43] <charlie-tca> !themes
[22:05] <Persona> black screen when shutting down but no when rebooting. Any ideas?
[22:06] <charlie-tca> What version?
[22:06] <Persona> karmik koala
[22:06] <Persona> on Pc (32)
[22:06] <charlie-tca> normal
[22:07] <Persona> thanks!!! It was driving me crazy.
[22:07] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[22:07] <charlie-tca> Drove me nuts too
[22:07] <Persona> now b.
[22:07] <Persona> how to fix it
[22:07] <Persona> ?
[22:07] <Persona> :D
[22:08] <charlie-tca> fix what?
[22:08] <Persona> well...
[22:08] <Persona> how to get it shutdown not just a black screen with my pc working
[22:09] <charlie-tca> Ahh, it doesn't shut down?
[22:09] <Persona> no
[22:09] <Persona> but it reboots
[22:09] <Persona> strange, isn't it?
[22:09] <charlie-tca> laptop?
[22:09] <Persona> no
[22:10] <Persona> ii hadn't that problem w. jaunty
[22:10] <Persona> I had a similar problem a while ago because gdm didn't kill X
[22:11] <charlie-tca> Still, try this? Applications -> Settings -> Xfce Power Manager
[22:11] <Persona> but then I had problems to reboot too, now it's only shutting down
[22:11] <charlie-tca> General, When power button is pressed...
[22:11] <charlie-tca> shutdown
[22:11] <charlie-tca> Might be just a shot in the dark, thought
[22:12] <charlie-tca> s/thought/though
[22:12]  * charlie-tca thinks it is wishful thinking
[22:12] <Persona> I have (I don't know exactly in english) "Ask me"
[22:12] <charlie-tca> yeah, Maybe change it to shutdown, instead
[22:13] <Persona> fine
[22:13] <charlie-tca> It doesn't really ask, anyway
[22:13] <Persona> speak soon
[22:13] <Persona> shutting down...
[22:13] <Persona> (or trying)
[22:13] <charlie-tca> May not do anything...
[22:15] <Per> ...
[22:15] <Guest24795> fans working, so...
[22:16] <Guest24795> It's not shutting down
[22:17] <charlie-tca> Time to file a bug then; open a terminal and use
[22:18] <charlie-tca> ubuntu-bug xfce4-power-manager
[22:18] <charlie-tca> It will collect a lot of information for the report to get you started.
[22:18] <charlie-tca> please subscribe me to the report
[22:20] <Person[a]> 1 sec
[22:22] <Person[a]> btw, I'm not sure it it's xfce bug
[22:22] <charlie-tca> Why not?
[22:22] <Person[a]> it doesn't work shutdown from terminal either
[22:23] <charlie-tca> Still, if the xfce desktop is running, the xfce-power-manager controls the shutdown
[22:23] <charlie-tca> Might be a hardware issue, though
[22:24] <Person[a]> shall I paste here the link to the bug?
[22:26] <charlie-tca> sure
[22:27] <Person[a]> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/475920
[22:28] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[22:28] <Person[a]> (any further information, please, ask. I, usually, manage to solve this issues reading posts. This time... I haven't found an answer)
[22:29] <charlie-tca> Okay. We are good about asking for more information.
[22:30] <charlie-tca> After the monitor blacks out, do you shut down using the power button?
[22:36] <Person[a]> reset... then power
[22:36] <charlie-tca> Okay
[22:39] <Person[a]> wow
[22:39] <Person[a]> If just realized of simething
[22:39] <Person[a]> something*
[22:39] <charlie-tca> huh
[22:40] <Person[a]> although I have the shortcut for xfce-power-manager
[22:40] <Person[a]> it's not installed
[22:40] <Person[a]> :S
[22:40] <Person[a]> I feel very very ashamed
[22:40] <charlie-tca> In terminal, Try typing
[22:41] <charlie-tca> apt-cache policy xfce4-power-manager
[22:41] <charlie-tca> then hit enter
[22:41] <charlie-tca> see what it tells you. If it gives you 3 or 4 lines of information, it is there
[22:41] <Person[a]> I've done before and apt-ed it
[22:42] <Person[a]> and now it looks like installed
[22:42] <charlie-tca> There are two files, xfce-power-manager and xfce4-power-manager
[22:42] <charlie-tca> We need xfce4-power-manager for karmic 9,10
[22:42] <Person[a]> I'm going to give  atry
[22:43] <subspider> hi how can i know if my graphic card is installed
[22:43] <subspider> or it's prprely installed
[22:44] <charlie-tca> subspider: Do you know what card it is?
[22:44] <subspider> i915
[22:44] <subspider> intel graphic card
[22:45] <subspider> it's hp laptop
[22:45] <charlie-tca> I think that is built into the kernel, but I can't say for certain. You can go to Applications -> System -> Hardware Drivers
[22:46] <charlie-tca> It will show if there is a propietary driver for that card available
[22:46] <subspider> hm ok
[22:46] <charlie-tca> It should also show if that driver is installed or not
[22:47] <subspider> cus i want towatch mkv movie format and it's not good
[22:47] <subspider> it says my system it's not using propretary drivers
[22:48] <charlie-tca> Then you need this:
[22:48] <charlie-tca> http://www.insidesocal.com/click/2009/11/are-your-graphics-dead-in-ubun.html
[22:48] <Person[a]> not success at all
[22:49] <charlie-tca> Which is also in the release notes I can't seem to put my fingers on right now
[22:49] <subspider> i go to synaptic
[22:49] <subspider> This package provides the driver for the Intel i8xx and i9xx family
[22:49] <subspider> of chipsets, including i810, i815, i830, i845, i855, i865, i915, i945
[22:49] <subspider> and i965 series chips.
[22:49] <subspider> This package also provides XvMC (XVideo Motion Compensation) drivers
[22:49] <subspider> for i810/i815 and i9xx and newer chipsets.
[22:49] <subspider> More information about X.Org can be found at:
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[22:49] <subspider> This package is built from the X.org xf86-video-intel driver module.
[22:49] <subspider> i have these intalled
[22:50] <charlie-tca> Then they are installed. There is no way in GNU/linux to install them wrong. click on the link I gave you above, it gives a fix for the i915 video
[22:50] <charlie-tca> to let you have good graphics for movies
[22:52] <charlie-tca> Person[a]: sorry to hear it did not work
[22:52] <charlie-tca> We will have to wait for a fix from a developer, then
[22:53] <Person[a]> no prob.
[22:53] <Person[a]> I don't shut down very often
[22:53] <Person[a]> but...
[22:54] <charlie-tca> That's why I had you file the bug report. I hope we can get it fixed.
[22:55] <subspider> i don't see any file menu.lst in /boot/grub floder sorry
[22:56] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu 9.10?
[22:56] <subspider> yea
[22:56] <charlie-tca> Just a minute
[22:56] <Person[a]> and second and last problem: always when rebooting (or starting) sound is mute
[22:57] <charlie-tca> You have pulseaudio installed
[22:57] <charlie-tca> If you remove it, the sound will quit muting on restarting
[22:58] <Person[a]> any other side effect?
[22:59] <charlie-tca> subspider: you must have grub2 installed. It changes it. you will be adding to the line in /etc/default/grub
[22:59] <subspider> ok sorry
[22:59] <charlie-tca> look for the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[23:00] <charlie-tca> add it after splash
[23:00] <charlie-tca> but before the quote
[23:00] <charlie-tca> Person[a]: Do you have Ubuntu installed also?
[23:00] <Person[a]> only xubuntu
[23:01] <charlie-tca> The only side effects I know of for removing pulseaudio is no sound from VirtualBox, and no system sounds when playing music
[23:02] <Person[a]> I'll survive
[23:02] <Person[a]> thanks again!
[23:02] <charlie-tca> Remove it using Synaptic Package Manager
[23:02] <charlie-tca> please....
[23:02] <subspider> i915.modeset=0
[23:02] <charlie-tca> It does not remove right using apt-get
[23:02] <charlie-tca> subspider: yes
[23:03] <subspider> ok
[23:03] <subspider> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" i915.modeset=0
[23:03] <charlie-tca> no
[23:03] <subspider> so how
[23:04] <charlie-tca> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i915.modeset=0"
[23:04] <subspider> hm
[23:04] <charlie-tca> Has to be inside the quotes
[23:04] <subspider> with enter
[23:04] <subspider> ok
[23:04] <subspider> sorry
[23:04] <charlie-tca> grub2 is fussy
[23:05] <charlie-tca> no problem. I just want you to get it right, too
[23:05] <subspider> i can't write it
[23:05] <charlie-tca> did you open the file with sudo?
[23:05] <subspider> i have to it buy comands
[23:05] <subspider> ok
[23:05] <subspider> i will
[23:07] <subspider> ok it's done
[23:07] <subspider> i changed the file
[23:08] <charlie-tca> Great!
[23:08] <charlie-tca> I hope it works...
[23:08] <subspider> now i restart
[23:08] <subspider> right
[23:08] <subspider> ??
[23:08] <charlie-tca> you did test it first, right?
[23:08] <subspider> test??
[23:09] <charlie-tca> Like it said in the first part of the article?
[23:09] <charlie-tca> hit esc, add to the kernel line, ...
[23:09]  * charlie-tca shakes head
[23:09] <charlie-tca> go for it
[23:10] <subspider> hmmmmmmm
[23:10] <subspider> yea
[23:10] <subspider> ok so i have to take the line ou test first
[23:13] <subspider> i'm going to restart
[23:14] <subspider> wait ok
[23:14] <charlie-tca> okay
[23:15] <Persona> well, charlie-tca I've found a fix for the mute thing
[23:15] <charlie-tca> yeah?
[23:16] <Persona> editing el alsa-utils config file
[23:16] <charlie-tca> I will try that
[23:16] <Persona> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/280305
[23:16] <Persona> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/280305/comments/7
[23:16] <Persona> it's line 378 or 379, it depends
[23:17] <Persona> but it does work for me
[23:17] <charlie-tca> great! I'm glad it worked. Thanks for the tip.
[23:18] <Persona> Thank you!
[23:18] <charlie-tca> no problem
[23:18] <Persona> well, kow it's time to sleep
[23:18] <Persona> too late here
[23:18] <charlie-tca> see you later
[23:18] <Persona> see you
[23:18] <Persona> bye!
[23:22] <subspider> ok i made that
[23:22] <subspider> now i'm going to see the movie
[23:22] <subspider> to see it's good
[23:22] <charlie-tca> and? okay. and if the movie is better, than make the change permanent, right?
[23:23] <subspider> yes
[23:23] <charlie-tca> good luck
[23:24] <subspider> it's working
[23:24] <subspider> what the hell
[23:24] <charlie-tca> Yes! That is the goal, isn't it?
[23:25] <subspider> thank you very much
[23:25] <charlie-tca> no problem.
[23:25] <subspider> i always love linux
[23:25] <charlie-tca> It is mostly knowing where to look, when.
[23:25] <subspider> i remeber to use madrake now mandriva
[23:26] <subspider> but always had to go to windows now i want to use just linux
[23:26] <subspider> and you guys here have been great
[23:26] <charlie-tca> It just keeps getting better.
[23:26] <charlie-tca> Thanks for saying that
[23:26] <subspider> now i'm the one saying thanks
[23:26] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[23:27] <subspider> i'm programmer
[23:27] <subspider> and in mu university they want me to program on prolog
[23:27] <charlie-tca> I just come around to help sometimes
[23:27] <subspider> you great man
[23:27] <subspider> you work on xubuntu team??
[23:28] <charlie-tca> some days I can help, some days are not so good.
[23:28] <knome> charlie-tca, you're always fantastic
[23:28] <charlie-tca> I am the Xubuntu Quality Assurance, Testing, Bug Triage Lead
[23:28]  * charlie-tca blushes... Thanks, knome 
[23:29] <subspider> well you guys are amazing is the first linux i test and i really lke
[23:29] <subspider> ubuntu is to heavy
[23:29] <subspider> xubuntu is just fine
[23:29] <charlie-tca> We try real hard to keep this something light but useable
[23:29] <subspider> xfce is nice and lighter
[23:29] <subspider> yes i can imagine
[23:30] <subspider> congrats mal
[23:30] <subspider> man