| sbalneav | Evening everyone | 01:44 |
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| petsounds | hi, good afternoon. i want to ask if there's videos or documents (pdf) that i can use to promote edubuntu usage in my campus. thanks | 05:43 |
| wima1 | since we upgraded our application servers to 9.04, we have some issues with pulse. The pulse daemon on the client seems to die quite often. | 13:18 |
| wima1 | Is this problem familiar to anyone? | 13:18 |
| === mhall1191work is now known as mhall119|work | ||
| msaul_ | I installed LTSP Ubuntu 9.10, and DNS is not working could anyone offer suggestions for fix? | 14:38 |
| msaul_ | I can ssh into a system with static IP address | 14:38 |
| msaul_ | When I use "dig" tool, it indicates "Connection Timed Out: no servers could be reached... | 14:39 |
| alkisg | DNS? LTSP doesn't handle dns... it's your responsibility.. | 14:40 |
| alkisg | Do you mean the thin clients? the server? How do you get your ip addresses? etc etc... | 14:40 |
| msaul_ | the server | 14:40 |
| alkisg | 2 nic server? | 14:40 |
| msaul_ | wasn't able to update software on server | 14:41 |
| msaul_ | yes 2 nic server | 14:41 |
| msaul_ | not worried about thin client right now.. | 14:41 |
| alkisg | Well, the nic that is facing the internet is not handled by ltsp at all | 14:41 |
| msaul_ | I know that | 14:41 |
| alkisg | How is that managed? with network manager? | 14:41 |
| msaul_ | I was able to SSH to another server with static IP address | 14:42 |
| msaul_ | It is a wired ethernet card | 14:42 |
| msaul_ | I think it is the network manager (applet on panel) | 14:42 |
| alkisg | OK, but how does it get an ip address? With network manager? with /etc/network/interfaces? with a static ip? with dhcp? | 14:42 |
| msaul_ | dhcp | 14:42 |
| alkisg | Then it's a problem with your "outer" dhcp server, it's not sending a dns setting | 14:43 |
| msaul_ | What would be the fix? Is there a file to edit? | 14:44 |
| alkisg | Where is the dhcp server? is it a router? | 14:44 |
| msaul_ | Yes, I have a router | 14:44 |
| alkisg | Then it may be a setting on the router | 14:45 |
| msaul_ | How come, when I install Ubuntu 9.10, Mythbuntu 9.10 no problem, but now a problem when I install alternate Ubuntu with LTSP/ | 14:45 |
| msaul_ | SHould I just reinstall the alternate Ubuntu CD with LTSP? | 14:46 |
| alkisg | Can you describe your network setup? | 14:46 |
| alkisg | No, don't reinstall for a simple ip problem... | 14:46 |
| alkisg | E.g. do you have both server nics connected to the same switch? | 14:46 |
| msaul_ | no | 14:46 |
| msaul_ | This was fresh install, nic card to Internet, other nic card (eventually connected to switch) not connected yet | 14:47 |
| alkisg | router => switch => server eth0 => server eth1 => switch => thin clients ??? | 14:47 |
| msaul_ | eth0 | 14:47 |
| msaul_ | for the internet connection | 14:47 |
| alkisg | Can you upload some files to pastebin? | 14:47 |
| alkisg | cat /etc/network/interfaces | 14:47 |
| msaul_ | and remember, I can still connect to outside server using static IP address! | 14:48 |
| msaul_ | which ones would you like me to upload? | 14:48 |
| alkisg | ls /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ | 14:48 |
| alkisg | cat /etc/resolv.conf | 14:48 |
| alkisg | (the output of the instructions I'm typing) | 14:48 |
| alkisg | sudo ifconfig -a | 14:48 |
| alkisg | sudo dhclient eth0 | 14:48 |
| msaul_ | I forgot how to upload to pastebin... | 14:48 |
| alkisg | Go to pastebin.ubuntu.com and paste the output there.. | 14:49 |
| alkisg | and then paste the URL here | 14:49 |
| msaul_ | OK, well get back to you (will take some time)... | 14:49 |
| alkisg | sure :) | 14:50 |
| alkisg | msaul_: ah, to temporarily solve the problem, | 14:50 |
| alkisg | you can do: sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf | 14:50 |
| alkisg | and put a dns server there | 14:50 |
| alkisg | That way you'll be able to copy/paste stuff... | 14:50 |
| msaul_ | There was one there already, and matched what was on my other Ubuntu system that is correctly using DNS... | 14:51 |
| msaul_ | i.e. relating to the /etc/resolv.conf file | 14:51 |
| alkisg | Ah. OK, we'll troubleshoot it after you post the output of the commands... | 14:52 |
| alkisg | msaul_: would you prefer remote access, i.e. giving me a shell in that pc? it'll be faster for both of us :) | 14:54 |
| sbalneav | Morning all | 14:56 |
| msaul_ | OK, I will start uploading to pastebin (note: command ls /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ had no stdout)... | 15:05 |
| alkisg | msaul_: ok no problem there, you just don't have any system connections set | 15:07 |
| msaul_ | What would be the procedure for that? | 15:07 |
| alkisg | Right click on the network manager, manage connections, make a connection, click "available to all users", and save | 15:08 |
| msaul_ | OK, I will try that OK, back in a few... | 15:09 |
| alkisg | msaul_: no don't try it, just send the output of the commands... | 15:11 |
| msaul_ | I assume network manager should be an applet on the panel - correct? | 15:14 |
| msaul_ | I just see one applet for the connection, and when I double-click it, it shows that wired network is not being managed... | 15:14 |
| msaul_ | I don't see the network manager as an applet to add into the panel... | 15:15 |
| msaul_ | I remember from other verions there are two applets, one being the network manager... doesn't seem to appear on my panel... | 15:16 |
| msaul_ | (by default anyways)... | 15:16 |
| msaul_ | alkisg - I went to network manager, there was already a connection labelled auto eth0 that had "avaialble to all users". | 15:24 |
| msaul_ | Do you want me to still add in other connection? | 15:24 |
| alkisg | msaul_: I'm waiting for the files :) | 15:24 |
| alkisg | Don't add any connections... | 15:25 |
| alkisg | (05:11:07 μμ) alkisg: msaul_: no don't try it, just send the output of the commands... | 15:25 |
| msaul_ | I already posted them... or I though I did... | 15:25 |
| msaul_ | You mean the several commands that you asked me to upload to pastebin? I did that 8 minutes ago... | 15:26 |
| msaul_ | Do you want me to upload again? | 15:26 |
| alkisg | No, but you should paste the URL here so that I can see the output... | 15:26 |
| alkisg | E.g. http://pastebin.com/qeworjiqw | 15:27 |
| msaul_ | Sorry, getting confused, that URL doesn't work... I posted to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ as instructed... (poster: msaul) | 15:31 |
| alkisg | (04:49:09 μμ) alkisg: Go to pastebin.ubuntu.com and paste the output there.. | 15:31 |
| alkisg | (04:49:14 μμ) alkisg: and then paste the URL here | 15:31 |
| alkisg | It's the second step :) | 15:31 |
| msaul_ | I copied and pasted output from those commands to the pastebin and posted... | 15:37 |
| alkisg | msaul_: I can't see the output if I don't know the link... | 15:38 |
| alkisg | When you paste something to pastebin, it replies with a URL | 15:38 |
| alkisg | You give that URL to the person you're talking with (=me), so that he can see the output | 15:38 |
| alkisg | Let me demonstrate | 15:38 |
| alkisg | Here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/311607/ | 15:39 |
| alkisg | I'm giving you this URL, where you can go and see my "output" | 15:39 |
| alkisg | If you don't give me the url of the things you've posted, I can't see them... | 15:39 |
| msaul_ | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/311608/ | 15:40 |
| alkisg | msaul_: Nice. What was the output of "dhclient eth0" ? | 15:40 |
| msaul_ | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/311610/ | 15:41 |
| msaul_ | That may have been issuing just dhclient instead of dhclient eth0 .... but seems to display same type of information... | 15:46 |
| alkisg | msaul_: so both of your subnets are at 192.168.0.x ? | 15:46 |
| msaul_ | yes | 15:46 |
| alkisg | That's the problem | 15:46 |
| sbalneav | Ooooh | 15:46 |
| sbalneav | that's bad :) | 15:46 |
| alkisg | You need to change either the router subnet or the thin clients subnet | 15:46 |
| msaul_ | Which file is that again to edit? (It's been a while...) | 15:47 |
| alkisg | You can do that from the router web interface | 15:48 |
| sbalneav | OK, off for a doctor's appointment. :( | 15:49 |
| msaul_ | Will this happen, even if there is no cable connected up to eth1? | 15:50 |
| msaul_ | Can't this be edited in the dhcpd.conf file? | 15:50 |
| msaul_ | I'm wondering why this is happenning from a simple install of Ubuntu 9.10 LTSP when I haven't even hooked up the thin clients? | 15:51 |
| alkisg | Because you use the same subnet in both NICs | 15:52 |
| msaul_ | But I didn't set anything, the system must have be default... | 15:52 |
| alkisg | If you want to change the ltsp-facing interface, you'll need to edit /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf | 15:52 |
| alkisg | Yes, you happen to have the same default in your router as the ltsp default | 15:53 |
| * alkisg has some work to do now, bbl... | 15:53 | |
| msaul_ | Is that a mistake, or is that just the way it comes by default? | 15:53 |
| alkisg | It's the way it comes by default | 15:54 |
| alkisg | It isn't a bug | 15:54 |
| alkisg | You're welcome | 15:59 |
| msaul_ | thanks | 15:59 |
| msaul_ | just juggling | 15:59 |
| alkisg | ;) | 15:59 |
| msaul_ | (my son's at home with flu) | 15:59 |
| msaul_ | daughter had H1N1, but better... | 16:00 |
| alkisg | Ooops | 16:00 |
| msaul_ | that's OK... dont' worry about it you did know... | 16:00 |
| alkisg | How long did she took to get better? A week? | 16:00 |
| msaul_ | You are being very patient with an oldtimer :) | 16:00 |
| msaul_ | I'm going to send up to paste bin contents of files to (before/after) to see if you agree for me to set correct subnet, then I will make fix and see if that works... | 16:01 |
| msaul_ | OK, here is the current /etc/network/interfaces file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/311630/ | 16:06 |
| msaul_ | I should modify it to something like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/311632/ - am I correct? | 16:06 |
| msaul_ | I should change it to something like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/311634/ - am I correct? | 16:08 |
| msaul_ | alkisg - yes. It took a week for her to get better | 16:09 |
| msaul_ | If all goes well, I will be able to get my shot in March 2010... | 16:10 |
| msaul_ | A lot of lines and confusion regarding the flu shots up here in Canada... | 16:10 |
| msaul_ | That did the trick - thanks! | 16:21 |
| msaul_ | Thanks for the great support! This is a good IRC resource. Just another reason I love to use Ubuntu. | 16:22 |
| msaul_ | I have created some resources FYI: Ubuntu Guide (teaching point of view): http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_Guide | 16:23 |
| msaul_ | This is my blog: http://murraysaul.wordpress.com/ (including my hobbies...) | 16:24 |
| msaul_ | The only thing I notice in my LTSP version of Ubuntu 9.10 is that the desktop is "black" regardless of the background art, but when I set the panel to "transparent", they display the correct background art (not black like the main desktop)... | 16:25 |
| msaul_ | bye.. | 16:40 |
| Ahmuck_ | someone needs to plug the Aaport bug | 19:10 |
| Ahmuck_ | it's getting annoying to get those messags | 19:11 |
| jbicha | um, which messags? | 19:12 |
| Nokio | Hi all i am Installing Edubuntu 9.10 ltsp mode, I am at the "constructing ltsp chroot environement" and it says that an error occured that prevent him from building the chroot environement. Thanks in advance for the help | 19:30 |
| jbicha | does the rest of the installation still complete? | 19:31 |
| Nokio | well i can move pass that part of the install and yes the rest of the installation would complete | 19:31 |
| Nokio | but why would the chroot environement fail to build at the install.... and will it fail post install ?! | 19:33 |
| jbicha | I think others in this channel have more experience with this bug than me, but I think that's a known error but doesn't necessarily mean that the chroot won't work | 19:34 |
| Nokio | okay so passing over it during the install and try to rebuild it post install would work.. ill try that thanks | 19:35 |
| Nokio | If anyone else in the channel as an idea in the mean time ill listening :p | 19:35 |
| Nokio | thanks jbicha | 19:35 |
| jbicha | np, the only time I installed ltsp was from an already installed Ubuntu | 19:35 |
| Nokio | ok | 19:36 |
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