[01:44] <sbalneav> Evening everyone
[05:43] <petsounds> hi, good afternoon. i want to ask if there's videos or documents (pdf) that i can use to promote edubuntu usage in my campus. thanks
[13:18] <wima1> since we upgraded our application servers to 9.04, we have some issues with pulse. The pulse daemon on the client seems to die quite often.
[13:18] <wima1> Is this problem familiar to anyone?
[14:38] <msaul_> I installed LTSP Ubuntu 9.10, and DNS is not working  could anyone offer suggestions for fix?
[14:38] <msaul_> I can ssh into a system with static IP address
[14:39] <msaul_> When I use "dig" tool, it indicates "Connection Timed Out: no servers could be reached...
[14:40] <alkisg> DNS? LTSP doesn't handle dns... it's your responsibility..
[14:40] <alkisg> Do you mean the thin clients? the server? How do you get your ip addresses? etc etc...
[14:40] <msaul_> the server
[14:40] <alkisg> 2 nic server?
[14:41] <msaul_> wasn't able to update software on server
[14:41] <msaul_> yes 2 nic server
[14:41] <msaul_> not worried about thin client right now..
[14:41] <alkisg> Well, the nic that is facing the internet is not handled by ltsp at all
[14:41] <msaul_> I know that
[14:41] <alkisg> How is that managed? with network manager?
[14:42] <msaul_> I was able to SSH to another server with static IP address
[14:42] <msaul_> It is a wired ethernet card
[14:42] <msaul_> I think it is the network manager (applet on panel)
[14:42] <alkisg> OK, but how does it get an ip address? With network manager? with /etc/network/interfaces? with a static ip? with dhcp?
[14:42] <msaul_> dhcp
[14:43] <alkisg> Then it's a problem with your "outer" dhcp server, it's not sending a dns setting
[14:44] <msaul_> What would be the fix? Is there a file to edit?
[14:44] <alkisg> Where is the dhcp server? is it a router?
[14:44] <msaul_> Yes, I have a router
[14:45] <alkisg> Then it may be a setting on the router
[14:45] <msaul_> How come, when I install Ubuntu 9.10, Mythbuntu 9.10 no problem, but now a problem when I install alternate Ubuntu with LTSP/
[14:46] <msaul_> SHould I just reinstall the alternate Ubuntu CD with LTSP?
[14:46] <alkisg> Can you describe your network setup?
[14:46] <alkisg> No, don't reinstall for a simple ip problem...
[14:46] <alkisg> E.g. do you have both server nics connected to the same switch?
[14:46] <msaul_> no
[14:47] <msaul_> This was fresh install, nic card to Internet, other nic card (eventually connected to switch) not connected yet
[14:47] <alkisg> router => switch => server eth0 => server eth1 => switch => thin clients ???
[14:47] <msaul_> eth0
[14:47] <msaul_> for the internet connection
[14:47] <alkisg> Can you upload some files to pastebin?
[14:47] <alkisg> cat /etc/network/interfaces
[14:48] <msaul_> and remember, I can still connect to outside server using static IP address!
[14:48] <msaul_> which ones would you like me to upload?
[14:48] <alkisg> ls  /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[14:48] <alkisg> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[14:48] <alkisg> (the output of the instructions I'm typing)
[14:48] <alkisg> sudo ifconfig -a
[14:48] <alkisg> sudo dhclient eth0
[14:48] <msaul_> I forgot how to upload to pastebin...
[14:49] <alkisg> Go to pastebin.ubuntu.com and paste the output there..
[14:49] <alkisg> and then paste the URL here
[14:49] <msaul_> OK, well get back to you (will take some time)...
[14:50] <alkisg> sure :)
[14:50] <alkisg> msaul_: ah, to temporarily solve the problem,
[14:50] <alkisg> you can do: sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[14:50] <alkisg> and put a dns server there
[14:50] <alkisg> That way you'll be able to copy/paste stuff...
[14:51] <msaul_> There was one there already, and matched what was on my other Ubuntu system that is correctly using DNS...
[14:51] <msaul_> i.e. relating to the /etc/resolv.conf file
[14:52] <alkisg> Ah. OK, we'll troubleshoot it after you post the output of the commands...
[14:54] <alkisg> msaul_: would you prefer remote access, i.e. giving me a shell in that pc? it'll be faster for both of us :)
[14:56] <sbalneav> Morning all
[15:05] <msaul_> OK, I will start uploading to pastebin (note: command ls /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ had no stdout)...
[15:07] <alkisg> msaul_: ok no problem there, you just don't have any system connections set
[15:07] <msaul_> What would be the procedure for that?
[15:08] <alkisg> Right click on the network manager, manage connections, make a connection, click "available to all users", and save
[15:09] <msaul_> OK, I will try that OK, back in a few...
[15:11] <alkisg> msaul_: no don't try it, just send the output of the commands...
[15:14] <msaul_> I assume network manager should be an applet on the panel - correct?
[15:14] <msaul_> I just see one applet for the connection, and when I double-click it, it shows that wired network is not being managed...
[15:15] <msaul_> I don't see the network manager as an applet to add into the panel...
[15:16] <msaul_> I remember from other verions there are two applets, one being the network manager... doesn't seem to appear on my panel...
[15:16] <msaul_> (by default anyways)...
[15:24] <msaul_> alkisg - I went to network manager, there was already a connection labelled auto eth0 that had "avaialble to all users".
[15:24] <msaul_> Do you want me to still add in other connection?
[15:24] <alkisg> msaul_: I'm waiting for the files :)
[15:25] <alkisg> Don't add any connections...
[15:25] <alkisg> (05:11:07 μμ) alkisg: msaul_: no don't try it, just send the output of the commands...
[15:25] <msaul_> I already posted them... or I though I did...
[15:26] <msaul_> You mean the several commands that you asked me to upload to pastebin? I did that 8 minutes ago...
[15:26] <msaul_> Do you want me to upload again?
[15:26] <alkisg> No, but you should paste the URL here so that I can see the output...
[15:27] <alkisg> E.g. http://pastebin.com/qeworjiqw
[15:31] <msaul_> Sorry, getting confused, that URL doesn't work... I posted to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ as instructed... (poster: msaul)
[15:31] <alkisg> (04:49:09 μμ) alkisg: Go to pastebin.ubuntu.com and paste the output there..
[15:31] <alkisg> (04:49:14 μμ) alkisg: and then paste the URL here
[15:31] <alkisg> It's the second step :)
[15:37] <msaul_> I copied and pasted output from those commands to the pastebin and posted...
[15:38] <alkisg> msaul_: I can't see the output if I don't know the link...
[15:38] <alkisg> When you paste something to pastebin, it replies with a URL
[15:38] <alkisg> You give that URL to the person you're talking with (=me), so that he can see the output
[15:38] <alkisg> Let me demonstrate
[15:39] <alkisg> Here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/311607/
[15:39] <alkisg> I'm giving you this URL, where you can go and see my "output"
[15:39] <alkisg> If you don't give me the url of the things you've posted, I can't see them...
[15:40] <msaul_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/311608/
[15:40] <alkisg> msaul_: Nice. What was the output of "dhclient eth0" ?
[15:41] <msaul_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/311610/
[15:46] <msaul_> That may have been issuing just dhclient instead of dhclient eth0 .... but seems to display same type of information...
[15:46] <alkisg> msaul_: so both of your subnets are at 192.168.0.x ?
[15:46] <msaul_> yes
[15:46] <alkisg> That's the problem
[15:46] <sbalneav> Ooooh
[15:46] <sbalneav> that's bad :)
[15:46] <alkisg> You need to change either the router subnet or the thin clients subnet
[15:47] <msaul_> Which file is that again to edit? (It's been a while...)
[15:48] <alkisg> You can do that from the router web interface
[15:49] <sbalneav> OK, off for a doctor's appointment. :(
[15:50] <msaul_> Will this happen, even if there is no cable connected up to eth1?
[15:50] <msaul_> Can't this be edited in the dhcpd.conf file?
[15:51] <msaul_> I'm wondering why this is happenning from a simple install of Ubuntu 9.10 LTSP when I haven't even hooked up the thin clients?
[15:52] <alkisg> Because you use the same subnet in both NICs
[15:52] <msaul_> But I didn't set anything, the system must have be default...
[15:52] <alkisg> If you want to change the ltsp-facing interface, you'll need to edit /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
[15:53] <alkisg> Yes, you happen to have the same default in your router as the ltsp default
[15:53]  * alkisg has some work to do now, bbl...
[15:53] <msaul_> Is that a mistake, or is that just the way it comes by default?
[15:54] <alkisg> It's the way it comes by default
[15:54] <alkisg> It isn't a bug
[15:59] <alkisg> You're welcome
[15:59] <msaul_> thanks
[15:59] <msaul_> just juggling
[15:59] <alkisg> ;)
[15:59] <msaul_> (my son's at home with flu)
[16:00] <msaul_> daughter had H1N1, but better...
[16:00] <alkisg> Ooops
[16:00] <msaul_> that's OK... dont' worry about it you did know...
[16:00] <alkisg> How long did she took to get better? A week?
[16:00] <msaul_> You are being very patient with an oldtimer :)
[16:01] <msaul_> I'm going to send up to paste bin contents of files to (before/after) to see if you agree for me to set correct subnet, then I will make fix and see if that works...
[16:06] <msaul_> OK, here is the current /etc/network/interfaces file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/311630/
[16:06] <msaul_> I should modify it to something like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/311632/ - am I correct?
[16:08] <msaul_> I should change it to something like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/311634/  - am I correct?
[16:09] <msaul_> alkisg - yes. It took a week for her to get better
[16:10] <msaul_> If all goes well, I will be able to get my shot in March 2010...
[16:10] <msaul_> A lot of lines and confusion regarding the flu shots up here in Canada...
[16:21] <msaul_> That did the trick - thanks!
[16:22] <msaul_> Thanks for the great support! This is a good IRC resource. Just another reason I love to use Ubuntu.
[16:23] <msaul_> I have created some resources FYI: Ubuntu Guide (teaching point of view): http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_Guide
[16:24] <msaul_> This is my blog: http://murraysaul.wordpress.com/       (including my hobbies...)
[16:25] <msaul_> The only thing I notice in my LTSP version of Ubuntu 9.10 is that the desktop is "black" regardless of the background art, but when I set the panel to "transparent", they display the correct background art (not black like the main desktop)...
[16:40] <msaul_> bye..
[19:10] <Ahmuck_> someone needs to plug the Aaport bug
[19:11] <Ahmuck_> it's getting annoying to get those messags
[19:12] <jbicha> um, which messags?
[19:30] <Nokio> Hi all i am Installing Edubuntu 9.10 ltsp mode, I am at the "constructing ltsp chroot environement" and it says that an error occured that prevent him from building the chroot environement. Thanks in advance for the help
[19:31] <jbicha> does the rest of the installation still complete?
[19:31] <Nokio> well i can move pass that part of the install and yes the rest of the installation would complete
[19:33] <Nokio> but why would the chroot environement fail to build at the install.... and will it fail post install ?!
[19:34] <jbicha> I think others in this channel have more experience with this bug than me, but I think that's a known error but doesn't necessarily mean that the chroot won't work
[19:35] <Nokio> okay so passing over it during the install and try to rebuild it post install would work.. ill try that thanks
[19:35] <Nokio> If anyone else in the channel as an idea in the mean time ill listening :p
[19:35] <Nokio> thanks jbicha
[19:35] <jbicha> np, the only time I installed ltsp was from an already installed Ubuntu
[19:36] <Nokio> ok