[01:44] Evening everyone [05:43] hi, good afternoon. i want to ask if there's videos or documents (pdf) that i can use to promote edubuntu usage in my campus. thanks [13:18] since we upgraded our application servers to 9.04, we have some issues with pulse. The pulse daemon on the client seems to die quite often. [13:18] Is this problem familiar to anyone? === mhall1191work is now known as mhall119|work [14:38] I installed LTSP Ubuntu 9.10, and DNS is not working could anyone offer suggestions for fix? [14:38] I can ssh into a system with static IP address [14:39] When I use "dig" tool, it indicates "Connection Timed Out: no servers could be reached... [14:40] DNS? LTSP doesn't handle dns... it's your responsibility.. [14:40] Do you mean the thin clients? the server? How do you get your ip addresses? etc etc... [14:40] the server [14:40] 2 nic server? [14:41] wasn't able to update software on server [14:41] yes 2 nic server [14:41] not worried about thin client right now.. [14:41] Well, the nic that is facing the internet is not handled by ltsp at all [14:41] I know that [14:41] How is that managed? with network manager? [14:42] I was able to SSH to another server with static IP address [14:42] It is a wired ethernet card [14:42] I think it is the network manager (applet on panel) [14:42] OK, but how does it get an ip address? With network manager? with /etc/network/interfaces? with a static ip? with dhcp? [14:42] dhcp [14:43] Then it's a problem with your "outer" dhcp server, it's not sending a dns setting [14:44] What would be the fix? Is there a file to edit? [14:44] Where is the dhcp server? is it a router? [14:44] Yes, I have a router [14:45] Then it may be a setting on the router [14:45] How come, when I install Ubuntu 9.10, Mythbuntu 9.10 no problem, but now a problem when I install alternate Ubuntu with LTSP/ [14:46] SHould I just reinstall the alternate Ubuntu CD with LTSP? [14:46] Can you describe your network setup? [14:46] No, don't reinstall for a simple ip problem... [14:46] E.g. do you have both server nics connected to the same switch? [14:46] no [14:47] This was fresh install, nic card to Internet, other nic card (eventually connected to switch) not connected yet [14:47] router => switch => server eth0 => server eth1 => switch => thin clients ??? [14:47] eth0 [14:47] for the internet connection [14:47] Can you upload some files to pastebin? [14:47] cat /etc/network/interfaces [14:48] and remember, I can still connect to outside server using static IP address! [14:48] which ones would you like me to upload? [14:48] ls /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ [14:48] cat /etc/resolv.conf [14:48] (the output of the instructions I'm typing) [14:48] sudo ifconfig -a [14:48] sudo dhclient eth0 [14:48] I forgot how to upload to pastebin... [14:49] Go to pastebin.ubuntu.com and paste the output there.. [14:49] and then paste the URL here [14:49] OK, well get back to you (will take some time)... [14:50] sure :) [14:50] msaul_: ah, to temporarily solve the problem, [14:50] you can do: sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf [14:50] and put a dns server there [14:50] That way you'll be able to copy/paste stuff... [14:51] There was one there already, and matched what was on my other Ubuntu system that is correctly using DNS... [14:51] i.e. relating to the /etc/resolv.conf file [14:52] Ah. OK, we'll troubleshoot it after you post the output of the commands... [14:54] msaul_: would you prefer remote access, i.e. giving me a shell in that pc? it'll be faster for both of us :) [14:56] Morning all [15:05] OK, I will start uploading to pastebin (note: command ls /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ had no stdout)... [15:07] msaul_: ok no problem there, you just don't have any system connections set [15:07] What would be the procedure for that? [15:08] Right click on the network manager, manage connections, make a connection, click "available to all users", and save [15:09] OK, I will try that OK, back in a few... [15:11] msaul_: no don't try it, just send the output of the commands... [15:14] I assume network manager should be an applet on the panel - correct? [15:14] I just see one applet for the connection, and when I double-click it, it shows that wired network is not being managed... [15:15] I don't see the network manager as an applet to add into the panel... [15:16] I remember from other verions there are two applets, one being the network manager... doesn't seem to appear on my panel... [15:16] (by default anyways)... [15:24] alkisg - I went to network manager, there was already a connection labelled auto eth0 that had "avaialble to all users". [15:24] Do you want me to still add in other connection? [15:24] msaul_: I'm waiting for the files :) [15:25] Don't add any connections... [15:25] (05:11:07 μμ) alkisg: msaul_: no don't try it, just send the output of the commands... [15:25] I already posted them... or I though I did... [15:26] You mean the several commands that you asked me to upload to pastebin? I did that 8 minutes ago... [15:26] Do you want me to upload again? [15:26] No, but you should paste the URL here so that I can see the output... [15:27] E.g. http://pastebin.com/qeworjiqw [15:31] Sorry, getting confused, that URL doesn't work... I posted to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ as instructed... (poster: msaul) [15:31] (04:49:09 μμ) alkisg: Go to pastebin.ubuntu.com and paste the output there.. [15:31] (04:49:14 μμ) alkisg: and then paste the URL here [15:31] It's the second step :) [15:37] I copied and pasted output from those commands to the pastebin and posted... [15:38] msaul_: I can't see the output if I don't know the link... [15:38] When you paste something to pastebin, it replies with a URL [15:38] You give that URL to the person you're talking with (=me), so that he can see the output [15:38] Let me demonstrate [15:39] Here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/311607/ [15:39] I'm giving you this URL, where you can go and see my "output" [15:39] If you don't give me the url of the things you've posted, I can't see them... [15:40] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/311608/ [15:40] msaul_: Nice. What was the output of "dhclient eth0" ? [15:41] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/311610/ [15:46] That may have been issuing just dhclient instead of dhclient eth0 .... but seems to display same type of information... [15:46] msaul_: so both of your subnets are at 192.168.0.x ? [15:46] yes [15:46] That's the problem [15:46] Ooooh [15:46] that's bad :) [15:46] You need to change either the router subnet or the thin clients subnet [15:47] Which file is that again to edit? (It's been a while...) [15:48] You can do that from the router web interface [15:49] OK, off for a doctor's appointment. :( [15:50] Will this happen, even if there is no cable connected up to eth1? [15:50] Can't this be edited in the dhcpd.conf file? [15:51] I'm wondering why this is happenning from a simple install of Ubuntu 9.10 LTSP when I haven't even hooked up the thin clients? [15:52] Because you use the same subnet in both NICs [15:52] But I didn't set anything, the system must have be default... [15:52] If you want to change the ltsp-facing interface, you'll need to edit /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf [15:53] Yes, you happen to have the same default in your router as the ltsp default [15:53] * alkisg has some work to do now, bbl... [15:53] Is that a mistake, or is that just the way it comes by default? [15:54] It's the way it comes by default [15:54] It isn't a bug [15:59] You're welcome [15:59] thanks [15:59] just juggling [15:59] ;) [15:59] (my son's at home with flu) [16:00] daughter had H1N1, but better... [16:00] Ooops [16:00] that's OK... dont' worry about it you did know... [16:00] How long did she took to get better? A week? [16:00] You are being very patient with an oldtimer :) [16:01] I'm going to send up to paste bin contents of files to (before/after) to see if you agree for me to set correct subnet, then I will make fix and see if that works... [16:06] OK, here is the current /etc/network/interfaces file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/311630/ [16:06] I should modify it to something like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/311632/ - am I correct? [16:08] I should change it to something like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/311634/ - am I correct? [16:09] alkisg - yes. It took a week for her to get better [16:10] If all goes well, I will be able to get my shot in March 2010... [16:10] A lot of lines and confusion regarding the flu shots up here in Canada... [16:21] That did the trick - thanks! [16:22] Thanks for the great support! This is a good IRC resource. Just another reason I love to use Ubuntu. [16:23] I have created some resources FYI: Ubuntu Guide (teaching point of view): http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_Guide [16:24] This is my blog: http://murraysaul.wordpress.com/ (including my hobbies...) [16:25] The only thing I notice in my LTSP version of Ubuntu 9.10 is that the desktop is "black" regardless of the background art, but when I set the panel to "transparent", they display the correct background art (not black like the main desktop)... [16:40] bye.. [19:10] someone needs to plug the Aaport bug [19:11] it's getting annoying to get those messags [19:12] um, which messags? [19:30] Hi all i am Installing Edubuntu 9.10 ltsp mode, I am at the "constructing ltsp chroot environement" and it says that an error occured that prevent him from building the chroot environement. Thanks in advance for the help [19:31] does the rest of the installation still complete? [19:31] well i can move pass that part of the install and yes the rest of the installation would complete [19:33] but why would the chroot environement fail to build at the install.... and will it fail post install ?! [19:34] I think others in this channel have more experience with this bug than me, but I think that's a known error but doesn't necessarily mean that the chroot won't work [19:35] okay so passing over it during the install and try to rebuild it post install would work.. ill try that thanks [19:35] If anyone else in the channel as an idea in the mean time ill listening :p [19:35] thanks jbicha [19:35] np, the only time I installed ltsp was from an already installed Ubuntu [19:36] ok