| benh | hoy | 00:35 |
|---|---|---|
| benh | are you guys playing nasty trick with the kernel config or so ? | 00:35 |
| benh | install linux-source-... | 00:35 |
| benh | unpack it | 00:35 |
| benh | stick /boot/config-* in there as .config | 00:35 |
| benh | apply a patch | 00:35 |
| benh | make drivers/usb/storage/usb-storage.ko | 00:35 |
| benh | and the resulting file ... doesn't work | 00:35 |
| benh | FATAL: Error inserting usb_storage (/lib/modules/2.6.31-14-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/storage/usb-storage.ko): Invalid module format | 00:36 |
| benh | apw ? | 00:41 |
| TheMuso | benh: Likely asleep atm, but since the way kernel packages are built has been changed recently, there still may be bugs that need sorting out. | 00:44 |
| benh | niiiiice | 00:46 |
| benh | remind why you guys did an LTS release in such a shamble ? :-) | 00:46 |
| TheMuso | Well not so much built, but since several trees are used to track various arm flavours, the debian dir has been abstracted a bit, so bits from the linux-source package may be incorrect/missing. | 01:03 |
| * Ng wonders if anyone has seen odd kernel crashes sneak into karmic very recently, my laptop was re-installed at RC and has been running since then. shut it down last night, this evening i've had it drop me to a console and start flashing capslock three times | 01:31 | |
| Ng | I may have rebooted once in the time from RC to last night, but no more than that, so I suppose the answer is to roll back all of -updates | 01:32 |
| Ng | s/answer/test case/ | 01:32 |
| pgraner | benh: Karmic is not an LTS | 01:46 |
| benh | pgraner: oh I though it was ... my bad | 01:47 |
| benh | when is the next LTS ? | 01:47 |
| pgraner | benh: Lucid | 01:47 |
| benh | ok, I stand corrected | 01:47 |
| benh | apw: so for this modem stuff ... I have the nagging feeling that most users on the bug that say it's not fixed for them are -not- actually running a kernel with the patch in | 01:48 |
| jk- | hey benh | 04:00 |
| benh | hey jk :-) | 04:01 |
| jk- | benh: do you know if the blue & white G4s have a RS232 header? | 04:02 |
| benh | jk-: it might | 04:02 |
| benh | tho B&W is G3 :-) | 04:02 |
| jk- | has a RJ11 modem connector on the back | 04:02 |
| benh | www.geethree.com | 04:02 |
| benh | they still exist ? | 04:02 |
| jk- | oh, blue & clear then :) | 04:02 |
| benh | nah, it's not a real one | 04:02 |
| benh | but the modem slot carries the serial signals | 04:02 |
| benh | (TTL) and those guys used to make an adapter | 04:02 |
| jk- | right, ok | 04:03 |
| * jk- cracks it open | 04:03 | |
| benh | http://www.geethree.com/stealth/index.html | 04:04 |
| benh | ah | 04:04 |
| benh | sold out ! | 04:04 |
| benh | crap | 04:04 |
| benh | maybe you can get them to send you the schematics :-) | 04:04 |
| benh | or the connector pinout | 04:04 |
| benh | or maybe on ebay | 04:04 |
| jk- | hm, i don't like my chances of finding a new connector for this modem socket | 04:07 |
| * jk- heads to ebay | 04:07 | |
| jk- | computer says no | 04:11 |
| benh | well | 04:16 |
| benh | I think xmon still had an option to send modem commands to connect it :-) | 04:16 |
| benh | so you can cross wire the modem to another modem | 04:16 |
| benh | though that works only if the modem uses serial, not USB or i2s | 04:16 |
| benh | apple has all 3 options depending on the machine | 04:16 |
| benh | (the connector has all 3 afaik) | 04:16 |
| jk- | maybe i could also install a punchcard reader :P | 04:17 |
| benh | :-) | 04:18 |
| benh | you may be able to blink the front LED in morse :-) | 04:18 |
| TheMuso | heh what bus did the moems use in those old machines? Afaik they used i2s in the G5s and aluminium powerbook G4s for the modems. | 04:21 |
| * jk- notices a label on an IC on the modem "I2C-01/0001" | 04:24 | |
| * jk- uses FB console instead | 04:27 | |
| benh | TheMuso: could be USB | 04:33 |
| benh | TheMuso: apple had serial first, then usb, then i2s | 04:34 |
| TheMuso | benh: Ah ok. | 04:34 |
| TheMuso | Pitty drivers weren't written for the USB/I2S modems. | 04:35 |
| benh | drivers existed for the USB one | 04:36 |
| benh | but they were not open source | 04:36 |
| benh | hfcusb or something like that by that canadian dude | 04:36 |
| TheMuso | meh I guess there is not much point these days. | 04:45 |
| jk- | i was just planning to get a ppc machine for easy boot tests | 04:51 |
| benh | apw: so at least that "Joel" guy was running the wrong kernel | 06:51 |
| benh | apw: also, Alan Stern had a look at his log anyways and the problem appears to be exactly the same as the E169 | 06:51 |
| benh | apw: so it's -possible- that they are all fixed, but people have been utterly confused by the bug status changing to "Fix Released" all the time | 06:51 |
| benh | apw: we'll know better once you guys finally release something based on .5 | 06:52 |
| === maco__ is now known as maco | ||
| benh | apw: moin | 10:11 |
| apw | moin | 10:11 |
| benh | apw: looks like we might finally get some light on that modem mess :-) | 10:11 |
| apw | yeah? | 10:11 |
| benh | apw: well, your post ... I think the main problem was confusion as to what kernel did what | 10:12 |
| benh | apw: your two test kernels should clarify things hopefully | 10:12 |
| apw | yeah lets hope so | 10:12 |
| apw | benh, i spend about 40 minutes writing and re-writing that update ... | 10:13 |
| benh | :-) | 10:13 |
| benh | users are a pain ! | 10:13 |
| Appiah | hey apw had any chance to look at #418933 after i uploaded the dmesg ? | 12:59 |
| === akgraner_ is now known as akgraner | ||
| csurbhi | one quick question, in karmic, how do i stop booting into X.. i mean i want to login into text mode by default ? | 15:43 |
| apw | disable the gdm upstart job? | 15:49 |
| csurbhi | apw, i am searching just that.. ! how to stop gdm using upstart !! the wiki is outdated | 16:04 |
| csurbhi | :( | 16:04 |
| apw | perhaps comment out the start on stanza from /etc/init/gdm | 16:07 |
| apw | you may also be able to change the /etc/X11/default-display-manager to not include the gdm path too | 16:08 |
| apw | and you may also be able to add text to the kernel command line in grub | 16:08 |
| mementomori | hi | 23:01 |
| mementomori | I've built my custom kernel using make-kpkg. Now if I modify/patch a module source should I rebuild the whole kernel or is there a way to build only the updated module? | 23:02 |
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