[00:22] <squidly> anyone have an issue where mythth loses all the cover art and stuff for your movies
[00:23] <tgm4883> squidly, no
[00:23] <tgm4883> multiple frontends?
[00:26] <squidly> tgm4883: no
[00:26] <tgm4883> hmm
[00:26] <squidly> I was tryign to fix mythweb
[00:26] <squidly> opened up videos and it said missing all cover art
[00:26] <squidly> and sence then boom
[00:26] <squidly> nada
[00:26] <tgm4883> thats odd
[00:27] <squidly> yea tell me about it
[00:28] <squidly> though it still show the cover art for things like tv seriies
[00:29] <williammanda> One question... concerning fanart, etc.... for recordings....
[00:29] <squidly> williammanda: what about em
[00:30] <williammanda> that was working on a slave backend / frontend...and now its not
[00:30] <williammanda> not sure what happened?
[00:31] <williammanda> I'm not setup for the new storage group since it can't play iso, etc...
[00:31] <williammanda> does that have anything to do with it?
[00:32] <williammanda> It works well on the master BE/FE
[00:56] <hads> If you aren't using storage groups then you need to share the directories to other frontends with NFS or some other network filesystem.
[01:41] <user_> i have been having a hard time getting mythtv to work ive tried mythbuntu 9.04 and 9.10 and i get it all installed I add the cards and video source but when I scan the channels it gets to channel 8 and freezes at 5% I have the hvr-1600 and an ati wonder pro card both have the same problem
[02:46] <wipeout> i think this hvr-1600 is a good card with the dual tuners and qam but i cant seem to get it to work anyone have a suggestion on a differant card with similar specs or a solution to get it to work?
[02:53] <whoDat_> where does mythfrontend get autostarted? can't seem to find where.
[03:06] <SteveG> I have to restart the backend on after a boot or mythtv-backend can not see my four PVR-150 cards.  In 9.10 where is mythtv-backend autostarted?  I did not see it in the rc2.d (Or any of the rc directories.)
[03:58] <rhpot1991> SteveG: its started by upstart
[04:08] <SteveG> rhpot19991: Thanks, Does upstart sequence the init.d scripts or just execute them all?
[04:17] <hads> SteveG: I remember seeing a bug someone was talking about where mythfrontned was starting before the devices were populated with udev. Perhaps that's the issue?
[04:17] <hads> whoDat_: It's started from ~/.config/autostart/
[04:18] <hads> SteveG: It involved adjusting the 'start on' line in /etc/init/mythtv-backend.conf
[04:25] <whoDat_> hads: where does xfce start?
[04:26] <whoDat_> I would think it would be in /etc/X11/xinit or /Xsession
[04:26] <whoDat_> but dont see it
[04:32] <superm1> /usr/share/mythbuntu/session.sh
[05:23] <styelz> can someone help me with installing mythstream on karmic?
[05:25] <tgm4883> styelz, download source, compile, install
[05:26] <styelz> i get this error when i make
[05:26] <styelz> http://pastebin.com/m5397571e
[05:26] <styelz> probably missing some package, not sure what one though
[05:27] <tgm4883> IIRC, you have to put it in the mythplugins source packages
[05:27] <tgm4883> is there not a readme?
[05:27] <styelz> oh, is that what that meant
[05:27] <styelz> heh
[05:28] <styelz> im being lazy
[05:28] <SteveG> hads: Thanks for the info.  Do you have any experience with customizing upstart scripts?  I have been trying for 30 mins to customize with little results.  I want to wait until ivtv is loaded/running to have mythtv-backend run.
[05:30] <tgm4883> SteveG, that seems like a good idea
[05:30] <tgm4883> file a bug?
[05:31] <SteveG> tgm4883
[05:31] <tgm4883> thats my name
[05:33] <SteveG> ;tmg4883: I wanted to solve it before I file a bug.  I have only been looking into upstart for 30 mins but I am not finding a huge amount of documentation.  I did find one post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=723896 that had some info from a header fiel but I have not been able to get it 100% yet.
[05:34] <superm1> SteveG, you probably want to add something like "on started udev"
[05:35] <superm1> look at /etc/init/hal.conf
[05:35] <superm1> and check with the guys in #upstart too
[05:55] <superm1> SteveG, you can see it at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythtv/mythtv-fixes/annotate/head%3A/debian/mythtv-backend.upstart
[05:56] <SteveG> superm1: Thanks!
[05:56] <rhpot1991> I did a review on System 76's Meerkat Ion being used as a MythTV Frontend if anyone is interested: http://www.baablogic.net/drupal/node/2
[06:42] <superm1> SteveG, i'd be very interested if you come up with a solution for your ivtv pitfalls
[06:42] <superm1> be sure to file a bug if so :)
[06:45] <hads> That's interesting, I've got an IVTV card and don't see that.
[06:55] <superm1> he might just have faster hardware
[06:55] <Haffe> ION you say.
[06:56] <Haffe> Can I offload transcoding to the GPU as well?
[07:01] <superm1> not currently, i know that was one of the ideas thrown around though
[07:02] <Haffe> Ok.
[08:49] <badinf> !help
[08:49] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[10:19] <hads> This is an early Core 2 Duo so it's not too slow.
[10:20] <hads> I was going to say could depend on what's installed and starting at boot but I just remember that I reinstalled that slave backend the other day.
[16:34] <heretic> hi
[16:35] <Guest63830> does a backend only installation of mythbuntu fit on a 3gb partition?
[16:40] <superm1> Guest63830, it should
[16:40] <superm1> you'll need more space for recordings though...
[16:41] <Guest63830> yeah of cource, thx
[16:43] <Guest63830> is it possible to encrypt the system partition like on a normal ubuntu installation?
[16:49] <superm1> you can encrypt your home
[16:49] <superm1> but encrypting the system requires the alternate installer
[16:49] <superm1> which we dont support
[16:58] <williammanda> I have a question concerning storage groups...
[16:58] <williammanda> I setup two storage groups on the master BE...recordings and livetv
[17:00] <williammanda> do I need to setup the same two storage groups on the slave BE if I'm not using the new storage group function? I'm using .22 version but since it does allow viewing of iso, etc ... files I want to set it up like version .21
[17:01] <williammanda> does not allow
[17:02] <williammanda> the reason for the storage group question is that I'm trying to get the artwork working for recordings on the slave BE
[17:42] <cgregan> Hello All.....I was wondering if there was a particular remote control that was the most popular and the most highly supported?
[17:43] <cgregan> BTW - Just installed Mythbuntu 9.10 on an AMD-64 device......it all just worked. Great job!!!
[17:45] <superm1> cgregan, microsoft media center edition remotes are the best way to go
[17:45] <superm1> nearly all the buttons work OOTB
[17:46] <superm1> you can usually find them for about 30 bucks on newegg or amazon
[17:46] <superm1> thanks for the nice feedback :)
[17:46] <cgregan> superm1: Hmmm......Microsoft eh.......I would have to do some serious explaining to my FLOSS friends! :-)
[17:47] <superm1> hehe.
[17:48] <superm1> the remotes are quite ubiquitous which is one of the primary reasons they're so well supported
[17:49] <cgregan> superm1: Ok.....maybe I can just put a "Circle of Friends" sticker over the offending logos. Thanks :-)
[17:54] <williammanda> I have a question about nfs and mythtv directories
[17:56] <williammanda> I know if I want to have files on computer a to been seen on computer b.....
[17:56] <williammanda> I need to export computer A's files and use fstab on computer B
[17:57] <williammanda> well this doesn't need to be done with mythtv recordings file...correct?
[17:59] <williammanda> if so...is this because a storage group was setup?
[18:00] <williammanda> if so ...why is a recordings directory setup in export?
[18:04] <Parallx> what are the settings for audio trhough hdmi on mythbuntu?
[18:08] <tgm4883> williammanda, correct, no, I don't know
[18:09] <williammanda> lol ty
[18:10] <williammanda> ok if the recordings directory doesn't need it the livetv doesn't either correct?
[18:10] <tgm4883> williammanda, right
[18:11] <williammanda> another topic then....
[18:12] <williammanda> concerning the artwork...banner, coverart abd fanart....
[18:13] <williammanda> I have this working on the master BE bt not on the slave BE
[18:14] <williammanda> I have exported all the artwork directories on the master BE and setup fstab on the slave BE...anything else to do?
[18:14] <williammanda> sorry this is for the recordings
[18:15] <tgm4883> aren't those all in storage groups?
[18:17] <williammanda> sorry ....I'm setting it up for ver .21 since .22 won't work with iso and vob files
[18:17] <Parallx> where should I place my external video files for mythtv to see them?
[18:18] <tgm4883> mythtv 0.22 works with ISO's and VOB's, just storage groups does not
[18:18] <tgm4883> and 0.21 doesn't have support for fanart, etc for recordings
[18:18] <tgm4883> so wtf are you talking about?
[18:18] <williammanda> right ...I meant the storage groups
[18:19] <tgm4883> Parallx, /var/lib/mythtv/videos/
[18:19] <tgm4883> williammanda, what does iso and vob files have to do with recordings?
[18:23] <Parallx> mmm   I can''t see any
[18:23] <Parallx> No files found
[18:25] <williammanda> I was trying to give some information on where I was....
[18:25] <williammanda> start over then....
[18:25] <williammanda> I'm using .22 and I have setup mythtv as ver .21 storage groups...
[18:26] <williammanda> so to get the artwork for recordings to work on a slave BE....
[18:27] <williammanda> I have created the artwork directories on the slave using fstab and exported from the master BE...but I don't get any artwork for the reordings
[18:28] <williammanda> I can see that the files in the artwork directories on the slave BE/FE
[18:28] <tgm4883> williammanda, use storage groups
[18:28] <williammanda> for just the artwork correct?
[18:28] <tgm4883> and the recordings
[18:28] <tgm4883> but yea
[18:29] <tgm4883> just not for videos
[18:29] <williammanda> OK
[18:30] <williammanda> so I don't need the fstab entries on the slave BE/FE for artwork either correct?
[18:30] <Parallx> I can't find my videos anywhere
[18:30] <tgm4883> williammanda, right
[18:30] <tgm4883> Parallx, misplace them?
[18:30] <williammanda> ty I appreciate it
[18:30] <Parallx> on mythtv, I mean
[18:30] <tgm4883> williammanda, np
[18:30] <tgm4883> Parallx, what version?
[18:31] <Parallx> mythbuntu 9.10
[18:31] <tgm4883> Parallx, do you have ISO's or VOB's?
[18:32] <Parallx> mpg ?
[18:32] <tgm4883> ok
[18:32] <tgm4883> hit M, then scan for changes
[18:32] <Parallx> M => system menu
[18:32] <Parallx> shutdown, about, and cancel
[18:32] <tgm4883> ah
[18:33] <tgm4883> do you have mythvideo installed?
[18:33] <Parallx> yes
[18:33] <Parallx> apt.get tells me i have it
[18:33] <tgm4883> go into mythvideo
[18:34] <tgm4883> should be under media or something
[18:34] <Parallx> how?
[18:34] <Parallx> I'm really new in mythtv
[18:34] <tgm4883> what is listed on the menu you are on?
[18:34] <Parallx> Media Library, Watch video
[18:34] <tgm4883> go into media library
[18:34] <Parallx> ok got it now
[18:34] <tgm4883> whats listed in there?
[18:34] <tgm4883> you got it now?
[18:35] <Parallx> now i have another Q
[18:35] <Parallx> video works, audio doesn't
[18:35] <tgm4883> ask away
[18:35] <radioshack> does audio work outside of mythtv?
[18:35] <Parallx> on mplayer, I use ao=alsa:hdmi
[18:35] <Parallx> and works perfect
[18:35] <radioshack> fun times
[18:36] <radioshack> !hdmi
[18:36] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about hdmi
[18:36] <radioshack> hmm
[18:36] <Parallx> even if I use the -ac hwac3 to get DTS and dolby
[18:36] <Parallx> but I don't know how it should me done in mythtv
[18:36] <tgm4883> !sound
[18:36] <Zinn> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Sound_Troubleshooting
[18:37]  * Parallx is reading 
[19:04] <Parallx> works now, thanks Zinn
[19:24] <Parallx> do I have to install something to be able to listen to music, I press play but i don't hear ogg nor mp3
[19:46] <Essobi> http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2009/11/https-ssl-attack-vector-discovered-fix-is-on-the-way.ars
[20:14] <jimknopf> hello together ... I need a little bit help with the new mythbuntu 9.10 version
[20:15] <jimknopf> with 9.04 everything was fine...with 9.10 I have no access to my video collection...everything is empty and I have trouble with my dvb-s skystar card :(
[20:16] <jimknopf> the music part is perfect
[20:16] <rhpot1991> jimknopf: did you check to see if the mythvideo is pointing towards your videos?
[20:16] <jimknopf> it's better than nothing ;)
[20:16] <rhpot1991> there is a storage directory setup for them at /var/lib/mythtv/videos
[20:16] <rhpot1991> you can map that elsewhere, or point mythvideo itself at files like you used to in older versions
[20:17] <rhpot1991> hopefully that didn't confuse you more :)
[20:17] <jimknopf> the new version is just a confusing ;)
[20:17] <jimknopf> my videos and music is on an external drive
[20:18] <jimknopf> the music is ok and the video part makes trouble
[20:18] <jimknopf> I think the mappings have to be fine
[20:19] <jimknopf> do you have an idea why my dvb-s decoder makes trouble in mythtv and works very well with kaffeine?
[20:20] <jimknopf> the sound of some channels is very bad and with kaffeine its ok
[20:28] <mrand> jimknopf: you'd need to google around for your particular model device and see if anyone else has reported trouble on it.  If not, it would be good to collect logs and submit them to the mythtv group.
[20:29] <jimknopf> ok
[20:29] <jimknopf> google is always the first I look for support
[20:30] <jimknopf> but I didn't find anything about 9.10
[20:30] <jimknopf> with 9.04 I didn't have trouble...maybe I will go back
[20:30] <mrand> 9.04 with 0.22 mythtv?
[20:31] <jimknopf> no...standard 9.04 mythbuntu
[20:31] <jimknopf> I think it was 0.21
[20:31] <mrand> Yes, 0.21 was "standard" on 9.04.
[20:31] <hads> What model card?
[20:31] <jimknopf> technisat skystar 2
[20:31] <hads> Should work, I have one here.
[20:32] <jimknopf> Techsan Electronics Co Ltd B2C2 FlexCopII DVB chip / Technisat SkyStar2 DVB card (rev 02)
[20:32] <hads> I have Rev 2.6d
[20:32] <jimknopf> yes..it works...but some german channel ... pro7, rtl and the other of this group have a very bad sound
[20:32] <hads> I doubt it's the card.
[20:33] <jimknopf> can't be..because kaffeine works fine
[20:33] <jimknopf> have to be a problem with the channelscan maybe
[20:39] <jimknopf> if I do a channel scan I use this parameter: frequence 12551500 Vertikal symbolrate 22000000
[20:41] <Parallx> is 0.22 working with DTS-HD?
[20:45] <jimknopf> I use the digital optical output
[20:46] <jimknopf> Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Device 970f
[20:46] <jimknopf> it's the gigabyte mainbboard MA785GMT-UD2H
[20:55] <rhpot1991> jimknopf: as far as your videos, verify they are in the correct directory or that a storage group is pointing at them, then hit m or i when in the videos section and make sure you scan for changes
[20:59] <jimknopf> that was it!
[20:59] <jimknopf> I'm an idiot ;(
[20:59] <jimknopf> I forgot the scan
[21:00] <jimknopf> thanks ... now I have only the problem with the tv card
[21:04] <jimknopf> I have one more question about the video section...is it possible to get german information?
[21:06] <hads> Check out the ofdb.py grabber
[21:08] <jimknopf> with the oldversion 0.21 there was a problem with ofdb.py
[21:08] <jimknopf> it is fixed in 0.22
[21:54] <henrik_> Anyone who know lircd and mce reciver?
[22:22] <MythbuntuGuest96> will the usb wintv-hvr950 work (pug and play)?
[22:42] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest96, I haven't tested 9.10, but last I checked you had to install the firmware for it
[23:04] <tyce> anyone use a mac mini (w/ apple bt keyboard) and manage to keep it working after upgrading to 9.10, .22?
[23:25] <hipitihop> anyone know how to stop usbhid grabbing my remote so I can try and get lirc going ?
[23:32] <superm1> you need an fdi rule hipitihop
[23:32] <superm1> take a look at the fdi file shipped in the lirc package for an example
[23:39] <hipitihop> superm1, not quite sure what you mean but googling thanks.... is the sample file already installed somewhere ?
[23:41] <superm1> hipitihop, look at "dpkg -L lirc | grep fdi"
[23:41] <superm1> that's the example file i'm talking about
[23:47] <tyce> how do you tell your .lirc/mythtv file that when you hold the button down, it means something dofferent?
[23:47] <tyce> *different
[23:48] <hipitihop> superm1, I see, /usr/share/hal/fdi/preprobe/20thirdparty/lirc.fdi  Would this be active or do you have to copy it somewhere once I set it up for my device
[23:52] <superm1> hipitihop, that's an active location, but you can copy it into /etc/hal/fdi/* after renaming it so its not ever overwritten by a package