[00:06] For the record, I poked AS in a query not to do that... whatever 'that' is. [00:21] prower called the ops in #ubuntu () [00:22] attitude problems in #ubuntu [00:27] I can't tell if lizzy would get better support in another channel [00:27] I can't see what the whole issue is about [00:28] She needs help connecting to some database? or something? and is trying to figure out if she needs a tunnel (ssh tunnel?) [00:28] * MenZa shrugs [01:19] Loafers called the ops in #ubuntu (manish) [01:33] MenZa called the ops in #ubuntu (mirc-drifter) [01:33] LjL called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mirc-drifter) [01:33] final version of my hilarious conversation with prower, hes a terrible troll and I was BORED [01:33] http://paste2.org/p/501579 [01:33] THankyaverymach. [01:33] @ Flannel [01:34] speaking people! [01:35] oh deary [01:35] we cant speak! [01:35] clones [01:35] elkbuntu lacks the +v [01:35] shes the fake [01:35] pwnt. [01:35] haha [01:35] yes, fake. [01:36] nalioth, I kindly request you review my actions in the log I pasted [01:36] if you find I was out of line I request further you remove my status as operator :) [01:36] Flannel: he's back [01:36] mirc-drifter: how can we help you? [01:39] DBO: did you want something special for that waste of my eyesight? [01:39] no, I was just keeping my word [01:40] i figured I would get a smart ass response :P [01:41] nalioth: Actually, I found it quite entertaining. And DBO *is* only acting as he said in the /query. [01:41] As much as it is baiting, and trolling a troll, I do believe he was put in his place. [01:44] mirc-drifter: Is there anything we can help you with today? [01:45] mirc-drifter: welcome to #ubuntu-ops, can we be of service? If not, please respect our /topic. [01:45] hi LjL [01:45] hi nal [01:45] shall i wait in the queue? [01:46] LjL: the queue to be shown the door? whyever would you want to be in that one? :) [01:46] good point :P [01:46] hehehe [01:46] ok, i just wanted to inform you what "papait" in #ubuntu-offtopic has been abusive to me in private, in case it happens with someone else [01:47] basically, just after joining -ot and larting me, i started getting NOTICEs from him [01:47] 16 of them to be exact [01:47] which looked like [02:22:42] [Notice] -papait- you are a nice JOKER [01:47] LjL: ok, thanks for the info [01:47] it might be a very old acquaintance i banned ages ago, who used to behave like that, i'm not really sure [01:48] bye [01:55] so i *should* know him? [01:56] "avash" didn't quite ring a bell, aside from being in the logs a couple of times... [01:56] but i haven't looked in the old logs. [01:58] oh, meh, i just didn't look hard enough in the new ones. i'll just grab the popcorn then [02:26] aperson called the ops in #ubuntu (xfire8) [03:30] Ashfire908 called the ops in #ubuntu (mysoogal) [04:21] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [04:21] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [04:37] prower seems to still be at it [04:38] Oh, prower is known? [04:38] check the paste from DBO above wgrant [04:38] is he? [04:38] bazhang: I read that earlier, but didn't make the connection. Oops. [04:38] where is he? [04:38] #u [04:39] #ubuntu DBO [04:40] okay [04:40] I will watch him [04:40] thank you [06:07] Hey guys... I can't join #ubuntu and the test in #ubuntu-read-topic fails [06:07] any ideas? [06:11] i have an idea. wait more than 2 minutes. [06:11] jinx! [06:12] So what's the deal with the #ubuntu-read-topic junk? [06:12] TrueSongMedia: you were disconnected when someone ran a know exploit. [06:12] What happened? [06:12] *known [06:12] Ahh [06:12] fun :/ [06:12] hence, you are asked to correct the problem before using #ubuntu again [06:12] makes sense [06:12] Did you report the person to the network? [06:13] TrueSongMedia, so you'll correct the problem and come back to us on port 8001 or whatever? [06:13] Oh, it's already fixed. I'm in #ubuntu now. I was just curious why it was needed :) [06:14] But did you report the exploiter to an 0p3r so he/she/it can be banned? [06:14] yes. [06:14] Cool :) [06:14] Well, not cool that it's needed, but cool that it's taken care of [06:21] nalioth, you here? [06:24] hey do we have any freenode staffers here? [06:39] So, #ubuntu-ops are in the business of "trolling trolls" now, are they? Interesting stuff. Does the IRC council provide special training on that, or are you just naturally a bunch of assholes to begin with? [06:39] erm, what are you on about exactly? [06:39] MenZa: Glad I could provide you with some "entertainment." [06:40] tsimpson: Why don't you ask your nazi friend DBO, who apparently is getting his screen capturing software ready to catch my "crazy," being the immature little fuck that he is [06:41] hes nuts [06:41] I love him [06:41] can we keep him? [06:41] you know what, I don't think I'm going to get anywhere with you prower, so I'll point you to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/AppealProcess [06:41] if you have an issue with an op(s), there are instructions tere [06:41] *there [06:41] tsimpson: You know what? DBO said there was a process too. And that process was him making fun of me behind my back. [06:42] tsimpson: Fuck your process. [06:42] use it or don't [06:42] resolve this or don't [06:42] hes not banned tsimpson, just so you know [06:42] hes just been swearing at me in PM for about 30 minutes [06:42] You're all just as fucking bad as ikonia, a bunch of immature little shits with more power than you deserve. You go ahead and "keep" what you're got DBO, you fucking twat. Hope you had fun. [06:42] prower: you clearly aren't in a mood to discuss anything [06:42] I got logs if you wanna read, they are hilarious [06:43] I don't know whether to laugh or cry. [06:43] its funny [06:43] * tsimpson just gives up and waits for his alien overloads to arrive [06:43] love is in the air [06:44] that man is the single handedly craziest person I ever met [06:44] I'm... inclined to agree [06:44] * MenZa shakes head disbelievingly [06:44] See, the thing is DBO, you must have made an impact on him [06:45] He went through, checked the links, found the IRC logs to -ops (I assume), and he's most likely still reading along. [06:45] well his original anger was I didn't ban the girl who screamed retards in #ubuntu and instead just told her to tone it down [06:45] yeah I figured he would see it [06:45] didn't *care* [06:46] i only have to put up with him for so long before hes just wasting my time and I deserve some fun out of it :P [06:46] All I'm saying is that you must've made an impact on him that way round [06:46] well his anger level is actually only slightly elevated from when I first started talking to him [06:47] hes been wound up all night [06:47] * MenZa nods [06:47] * wgrant sighs. [06:55] prower called the ops in #ubuntu () [06:56] And that, ladies and gentlemen [06:56] Is the action of a desperate man. [06:56] well thats that [06:56] Trolls: 0, Ubuntu: 1 [06:56] * MenZa shakes DBO's hand. [06:56] good game [06:57] Well played, good sir. [06:57] * tsimpson stares at jussi01___ in #k and blinks several times [07:18] Ahh, well that was fun, I must say. :> Thanks a load. [07:19] Flannel: You can feel free to keep that ban as long as you'd like, I've had my fun with DBO and I have several other users sitting in channel. No one better than an Ubuntu op as a trolling victim -- haven't found a better target yet! [07:21] prower: If there's nothing else we can do for you at the moment, please don't idle here. Thanks. [07:21] Flannel: Oh no, DBO provided all the entertainment that we needed and your ban hasn't even gotten rid of me. Besides, I'm not idling, I'm having a chat. [07:21] prower: you have been told what to do if you have an issue with an operator, it's up to you to choose to do that or not [07:22] tsimpson: Ahh, I don't have any real issue with any operator. :> Made a good act of it though, no? [07:22] if you have no issue, then you have no business here [07:22] tsimpson: Hmm...well, what issues are covered here? [07:23] This channel is for operator/abuse questions in the IRC Team domain only [07:23] from /topic [07:24] tsimpson: Ahh, that must have scrolled by too quickly for me, sorry. I was too busy laughing myself shitless at DBO. I do have an actual question along those lines, however. [07:24] prower, this is not a place to spectate or obtain entertainment from. [07:25] elky: Well it was a place that DBO thought he could get entertainment from me, it's a shame for him that he was the one being strung along but I can't account for his gullibility. :> [07:25] prower, you do not appear to have any need to be in this channel. [07:25] tsimpson: In either case, my question -- why aren't the IRC team members also a part of the council? I think that they ought to have more of a say in the process, there seems to be a disconnect between the two. [07:26] prower: members of the IRC Council are members of the IRC operators team [07:27] tsimpson: Ahh, okay -- so it's the reverse of how I was picturing it then, the IRC council members have an administrative roll as well? [07:27] if you want to talk to the council the details are in the link I gave you earlier [07:27] tsimpson: I don't have any need to speak to the council, as I said I don't have any issue with any particular operator. [07:27] the IRC Council are the group responsible for the IRC operators team [07:28] tsimpson: I see...and there's a "pool" of people that the council would consider as potential operators I suppose, or does it work differently than that? [07:29] (No, I don't want to be one, if that's what you're thinking :P For one I'd never have a chance, for another you guys fall for it way, way too easily, I wouldn't want to be associated with you to be honest) [07:29] the council pick operators as the need arises from the active members in the channel(s) [07:29] prower, operators are selected from active, helpful people who contribute on IRC politely and who show a capacity to mediate situations. [07:30] elky: Well that certainly makes sense, you want people who are level-headed and involved in the community to manage said community. Same way that a lot of the message boards I've moderated on have worked. :> [07:32] tsimpson: I'd imagine that sometimes results in bad choices though? Accidentally of course...some people who are active and then get a +o probably don't always use it the way they should [07:32] tsimpson: But there's not really a better way to select people, when you think about it [07:32] not often [07:33] MenZa: Congrats by the way, you weren't fooled for even half of a second. :> [07:33] prower, i'm failing to understand what you're trying to achieve here. [07:33] tsimpson: Oh, I wouldn't think so...I've been coming here for years, can't remember a time in recent memory where an op that was brought on had to be removed for those reasons [07:34] prower, then you're not as in touch as you think you are. [07:34] elky: Well I'm not an "insider" as you would say, so obviously I'm not privy to every detail of what happens on the administrative side, graned [07:35] elky: In either case I'm not trying to achieve anything, I'm asking questions about the IRC council because I'm genuinely curious. :> Already "achieved" what I wanted with DBO. [07:35] (Thanks DBO) [07:35] prower, so what exactly are you aiming to achieve here now. [07:35] elky: He wants to screw with you too [07:35] elky: I believe I just stated that [07:35] Amaranth: No, if I was screwing with somebody it'd be much more obvious, and he wouldn't fall for it :> Too smart for that [07:36] I'm just curious about how people got to be ops in the first place, that's all, the association with Canonical, etc. [07:36] there is detail about the council at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/IrcCouncil [07:36] ooh, too late [07:37] * MenZa raises eyebrow [07:38] oh a PM. one that does not prompt a reply, so none shall be given. [07:40] more baiting PMs that do not actually require responses. [07:41] * MenZa knows them [07:42] and a threat to ban evade. tasty. [07:43] I will be coming back to #ubuntu though, you can't throw the banhammer down when you don't know which account is which, no? :> Have a good one! [07:43] They never seem to realise the consequences of that... [07:43] * tsimpson still waits for the alien overlords to arrive [07:44] wgrant, well that's their sense of self-importance and misplaced admiration for their own genius. [07:45] * MenZa is reminded of the old my-dad-can-beat-up-your-dad, sips. [07:49] hes been using the same IP for over a year, he also uses the name orochi, his name is John Walsh, email address prower2000@gmail.com, ip 72.139.80.239 [07:49] that should about cover any identifying information [07:50] ah, that email address is familiar. [07:50] you really think he would use a proxy [07:51] DBO is a professional stalker. [07:51] eh it only took a couple googles and some email headers [07:51] which is what professional stalkers do these days [07:51] also goes by blue fox and uses both hotmail and yahoo addresses for prower2000 [07:51] *eyeballs* [07:52] yep [07:54] DBO, is he also blind melon or something like that? [07:54] maybe [07:55] also is prower2000@crosswinds.net [07:55] if so, he definately knows about the IRC Council. [07:55] elky, his name was attached tosomething like blind|melon [07:56] the logs of this channel should have traces of him from late july through to early august. [07:58] interesting [07:59] * jussi01 sighs... [07:59] you okay jussi01? [07:59] DBO: just one of those days. what can go wrong will go wrong :( [08:00] anything we can help you with? [08:00] jussi01, welcome to my week! [08:01] look, I found his pubkey! :P http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xEBC12E8E [08:01] nah, Ive got to kick some kubuntu dev's butts though.... who ever didnt put the windows usb creator, or a tleast a link to it, on the karmic cd should be shot. [08:01] ok, can we stop doing that now? [08:01] from http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=crosswinds [08:01] yeah [08:01] sorry [08:01] jussi01: it's on the netbook CD, where it belongs ;) [08:02] tsimpson: it needs to be at least linked from the normal cd. [08:04] * MenZa hugs jussi01 [08:15] Guys, I just read backlog. Can you please remember this is a public channel, and while he may have been angry and sounding a bit nuts, we still have a duty to be professional and not "troll" the trolls. Please be careful what you say and do, we are the ubuntu ops, lets behave like ops. [08:23] jussi01: in hindsight, that was slightly stupid. I apologise for my part in it, even though I *did* not feel that it was unfair in anyway [08:23] from a more principled point of view though, that wasn't exactly the correct conduct [08:24] if anything, it was unfair to the rest of the community, but not to him [08:24] that's my only regret. [08:26] we have a responsibility to be examples to other users, and we can't expect others to follow the CoC and guidelines if we don't ourselfs [08:26] and that's the part I'm not too happy about having bordered [08:31] goose called the ops in #ubuntu () [08:32] boxxy again?! [08:33] in PM [08:33] [2009-11-06 08:33:33 UTC] GAYNIGGERS FROM OUTERSPACE [08:33] in a query [08:33] * MenZa lawds. [08:34] * MenZa invokes soft-ignore. [08:36] now in #freenode [08:38] unresponsive in PM (outside of profanity). sorry can't hang around longer, work calls. [08:44] good morning [08:44] I want proof of that ;) [08:51] morning dholbach [08:51] hi MenZa [10:05] morning dholbach. [10:06] hi jpds [10:06] socks4anon: is there something we can help you with? [10:06] hallo dholbach :) [10:06] hi jussi01 [10:09] socks4anon: Ok, Im going to remove you from the channel as you are non responsive, however you are welcome to drop back when you are active to discuss your issue. [10:13] jussi01: is idle : 0 days 7 hours 52 mins 20 secs [10:13] jpds: huh? [10:14] jussi01: If you /whois him. ;) [10:15] mhm. Im just trying to get why you told me this. ? [10:16] w7 60 [10:16] woop [10:16] +s [12:58] Well those were some interesting hilights [13:55] In ubottu, Pici said: no ping is Here I am, brain the size of a planet and you ask me to respond to a ping? How depressing. [13:55] argh [13:56] @login [13:56] The operation succeeded. [14:19] lol [14:21] hmmm iirc they don't call that planet the size of ubottu's brain a planet anymore :( [14:50] that's no mooon........ === elky is now known as Guest67610 === elky_work is now known as Guest11708 [16:39] hi all, jussi01 asked me to say that he won't have internet connection in whole weekend === Dominian is now known as BOFH === BOFH is now known as Dominian === Dominian is now known as BOFH === BOFH is now known as Dominian [20:14] In ubottu, Darkedge said: lego is something to play with :) [20:55] !away > _Spider_ [21:12] 2/whowas mesula [22:39] oh, see http://packages.ubunut.com/ [22:55] hmm? [23:42] I need someone with UbuntuIrcCouncil access, anyone about? [23:43] Isn't there a trigger to ping the council? [23:43] !search council [23:43] Found: mako, irccouncil, ircc [23:44] yeah by using their nicks [23:44] ooh, I just remembered they have a channel now [23:45] except it's very empty [23:46] nalioth: are you about? [23:50] tsimpson: hi [23:50] nalioth: mind if I /msg you? [23:50] tsimpson: any time