| ninnypants | also these are the last couple entries from my mail.log file Nov 5 23:59:29 Directories postfix/smtpd[24093]: warning: problem talking to service rewrite: Success | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| ninnypants | Nov 5 23:59:29 Directories postfix/master[6788]: warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/trivial-rewrite pid 24122 exit status 1 | 00:02 |
| ninnypants | Nov 5 23:59:29 Directories postfix/master[6788]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/trivial-rewrite: bad command startup -- throttling | 00:02 |
| ninnypants | sorry thought I'd copied the link http://pastebin.org/51273 | 00:03 |
| jmedina | and what about postfix check? | 00:07 |
| ninnypants | it gives me this postfix: fatal: /etc/postfix/main.cf, line 49: missing '=' after attribute name: "dovecot unix - n n - - pipe flags=DRhu user=vmail argv=/usr/lib/dovecot/deliver -f ${sender} -d ${recipient}" | 00:09 |
| ninnypants | unless I format it like this: dovecot=unix - n n - - pipe flags=DRhu user=vmail argv=/usr/lib/dovecot/deliver -f ${sender} -d ${recipient} | 00:10 |
| ninnypants | which is incorrect | 00:10 |
| JJman | i need to reinstall a program (mysql) whats the best way to remove & reinstall should i do a reinstall or remove or purge or autoremove? | 00:12 |
| Reepicheep | JJman: are you interested in starting over.. configs and all? | 00:14 |
| JJman | Reepicheep: yea thats fine cause i have to reinstall phpmyadmin afterwards. | 00:16 |
| Reepicheep | JJman: then you may as well just go ahead and purge it .. then if you want to get rid of the data make sure /var/lib/mysql and /var/lib/mysql-cluster are both removed or moved out of the way | 00:18 |
| JJman | will the data be overwritten if there are changes in the install to user? only user added/changed is root i changed its name | 00:19 |
| Reepicheep | JJman: are you refering to the data in the database? | 00:20 |
| JJman | yar. | 00:20 |
| jmedina | ninnypants: what ubuntu version? | 00:20 |
| JJman | since i renamed the 'root' user | 00:20 |
| ninnypants | 8.4 | 00:21 |
| Reepicheep | JJman: If you want to preserve that you better back that up first | 00:21 |
| jmedina | I recommend migrato jaunty or karmic and install postfix-dovecot | 00:21 |
| jmedina | it is preconfigured :) | 00:21 |
| Reepicheep | JJman: root as in mysql root user, correct? | 00:21 |
| JJman | yep | 00:21 |
| JJman | i can recreate it its no biggie. just the 1 user | 00:22 |
| ninnypants | jmedina: can't not my server | 00:22 |
| Reepicheep | well when you install mysql-server it will create a root user for that mysql install | 00:22 |
| JJman | I purged both client & server but i still can run mysql from cmd. although it won't connect. as there's a socket error | 00:23 |
| Reepicheep | JJman: I'm curriuos why you renamed the mysql 'root' user? | 00:23 |
| JJman | so it obviously didn't purge | 00:23 |
| JJman | errr because everyoen know's 'root' so its obviously more secure to rename it | 00:23 |
| JJman | rule #1 rename your root | 00:24 |
| JJman | ;-) | 00:24 |
| Reepicheep | oh.. I see.. I useually just make it so only localhost can login as root.. and also set a root password | 00:24 |
| JJman | ok now mysql is gone. i had 2 versions of the client installed | 00:25 |
| Gorlist | does mytop come standard with mysql? | 00:25 |
| Reepicheep | JJman: you may also see mysql-common installed | 00:25 |
| JJman | this is the problem i'm having i want mysql 5.1 installed but when i go to install phpmyadmin it uninstall's 5.1 and installs 5.0 | 00:26 |
| JJman | its extremely annoying | 00:26 |
| JJman | how can i search what mysql* related packages are installed | 00:26 |
| jmedina | dpkg -l | 00:27 |
| Reepicheep | JJman: you may want to install phpmyadmin from source instead of the package then | 00:28 |
| Reepicheep | it's pretty straight forward to setup | 00:28 |
| JJman | ok . whats this dpkg -l showing me. thats not stuff thats only installed, right. cause its showing the packages i just purged | 00:29 |
| Reepicheep | JJman: do an "aptitude show <package-name>" on one of the questionable packages, see if it claims to be installed there | 00:30 |
| Reepicheep | JJman: what does the like in "dpkg -l" start with? | 00:33 |
| JJman | i think the problem i'm having with phpmyadmin has to do with the version conflict in php5-mysql that appears to be using an older version | 00:33 |
| JJman | not sure what u mean | 00:34 |
| Reepicheep | when you do a "dpkg -l" and it displays say the package "mysql-server" does the line stat with "ii" or something different | 00:35 |
| Reepicheep | if it start with a "u" it is not installed | 00:37 |
| Reepicheep | JJman: "aptitude show mysql-server | grep State" may be handy also | 00:38 |
| JJman | yea i see ii | 00:40 |
| JJman | for most things except for mysql 5.1 has rc in front | 00:40 |
| JJman | 5.0 says ii | 00:40 |
| Reepicheep | JJman: "ii" => Desired: installed ; Status: Installed | 00:42 |
| JJman | & rc | 00:43 |
| geoffmcc | maybe its a dumb question or maybe its just so the user can have more customization over ubuntu but i recently started using ubuntu server to host my own webpage. one thing i noticed is that there is no or seems to be no firewall by default, why is this? | 00:43 |
| JJman | there's apparmor | 00:43 |
| JJman | not sure thats the same | 00:44 |
| jmedina | a Firewall wont protect you agains http attacks | 00:44 |
| jmedina | at least not a IP firewall | 00:44 |
| Reepicheep | JJman: "rc" => Desired: Remove ; Status: Config-files | 00:44 |
| geoffmcc | i just figured a firewall would normally be desired | 00:44 |
| JJman | mod_security is supposed to help i think in that regard | 00:45 |
| Reepicheep | JJman: this might help http://paste.ubuntu.com/311068/ | 00:45 |
| JJman | thx | 00:49 |
| JJman | attempting to install phpmyadmin now from source. (skeptical that this will help as i think the problem lies in php5-mysql library | 00:50 |
| Reepicheep | JJman: when I say install phpmyadmin from source I meen get your mysql server setup, get your web server setup with PHP then go to sourceforge and download phpmyadmin from there | 00:52 |
| JJman | i've done that | 00:52 |
| JJman | web server already installed & setup with php5 | 00:52 |
| JJman | i reinstalled mysql 5.1 | 00:53 |
| JJman | now i'm trying to install latest version of phpmyadmin | 00:53 |
| Reepicheep | ok.. sorry so it's the php5 that is causing the problem with mysql 5.1 then? | 00:53 |
| JJman | Well i 'think' it is. this is one of the errors i was getting in phpmyadmin: | 00:53 |
| JJman | Your PHP MySQL library version 5.0.75 differs from your MySQL server version 5.1.31. This may cause unpredictable behavior. | 00:53 |
| JJman | as it seems that the php mysql library is part of the php install perhaps | 00:54 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: still around? | 00:54 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: yes | 00:55 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: you don't have VT on your laptop, do you ? | 00:55 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: nope - I do *not* have VT on any of my laptop | 00:55 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: well that's something you should fix sometime :-) | 00:55 |
| kirkland | mathiaz: oh well | 00:55 |
| Reepicheep | jjman what does it return for the version when you do a "dpkg -l mysql-server" | 00:57 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: well - if Dell had chosen an Intel graphic instead of pouslbo driver for the mini 10, I would have VT extension on my dell mini | 00:57 |
| JJman | Reepicheep: pn mysql-server <none> (no description available) | 00:57 |
| JJman | thats odd since i just installed 5.1 | 00:58 |
| JJman | mysql --version | 00:58 |
| JJman | mysql Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.1.31, for debian-linux-gnu (i486) using EditLine wrapper | 00:58 |
| Reepicheep | yeah.. that's interesting, does the "mysqld" command exist? | 00:58 |
| Reepicheep | if so run "mysqld --version" | 00:58 |
| JJman | mysqld --version | 00:58 |
| JJman | mysqld Ver 5.1.31-1ubuntu2 for debian-linux-gnu on i486 ((Ubuntu)) | 00:58 |
| Reepicheep | JJman: what command did you use to install it? | 00:59 |
| JJman | sudo apt-get install mysql-client-5.1 mysql-server-5.1 | 01:00 |
| JJman | i'm able to loginto db (it kept renamed root even) | 01:00 |
| Reepicheep | ah.. ic.. try "dpkg -l mysql-server-5.1" | 01:01 |
| JJman | ii mysql-server-5.1 5.1.31-1ubuntu2 MySQL database server binaries | 01:01 |
| Reepicheep | well if you didn't remove the data directory for the db .. it probably just kept the existing users and databases | 01:01 |
| JJman | which is fine | 01:02 |
| Reepicheep | the users are all stored in the "mysql" database | 01:02 |
| JJman | this is wher ei think the problem will lie when i get phpmyadmin reinstalled: | 01:03 |
| JJman | ii php5-mysql 5.2.6.dfsg.1-3ubuntu MySQL module for php5 | 01:03 |
| JJman | yea i know in the users table | 01:03 |
| Reepicheep | JJman: I'm not sure what else to do short or repackaging php5-mysql linked against the mysql 5.1 libraries instead of the 5.0 libraries | 01:09 |
| JJman | we'll see. if this doesn't work then i'm scrapping 5.1 and going back to 5.0 where it will work with no problems | 01:10 |
| Reepicheep | and .. everything may work fine the way that it is | 01:10 |
| JJman | true | 01:11 |
| Reepicheep | even with that warning.. I wouldn't know though .. that would be a question for the phpmyadmin people or even maybe the mysql people | 01:11 |
| JJman | yea if anyone in those channels were of any help 8-p | 01:11 |
| JJman | I've been trying to ask for more than a day | 01:11 |
| Reepicheep | well that's no fun.. I don't know if I have been any help either though.. | 01:13 |
| JJman | More than most ;-) appreciate it | 01:13 |
| Reepicheep | np.. but the issue now is that you have reminded me how late it is.. I gotta get going | 01:13 |
| JJman | k | 01:13 |
| JJman | peez | 01:13 |
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| JJman | i'm installing new version of phpmyadmin should i set www-data.www-data as the owner for all the files as root now owns and they aren't accessible? | 01:29 |
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| decoy_ | #ubuntu | 01:46 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #476063 in php5 (main) "package libapache2-mod-php5 5.2.10.dfsg.1-2ubuntu6.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/476063 | 02:01 |
| jefferai | I'm having an issue where I can't get into any services from the outside | 02:10 |
| jefferai | after a reboot | 02:10 |
| jefferai | I had this problem before, and figured it out | 02:11 |
| jefferai | but that was a few months ago, when I first installed it | 02:11 |
| jefferai | and can't remember what :-| | 02:11 |
| jefferai | ufw isn't installed, iptables isn't installed... | 02:11 |
| jefferai | but it's behaving like there's a firewall | 02:11 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #476069 in krb5 (main) "segfault" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/476069 | 02:16 |
| Atula | hi all | 03:12 |
| Atula | I install ubuntu server | 03:13 |
| Atula | but i copy a file with charaset utf-8 | 03:14 |
| Atula | it's no dipslay ubuntu server | 03:14 |
| Atula | can i help you | 03:15 |
| JanC | I think utf-8 should work | 03:21 |
| JanC | maybe you need to change the default encoding | 03:22 |
| JanC | do you have an example of this problem on-line? | 03:22 |
| Atula | yes | 03:22 |
| Atula | example | 03:22 |
| KurtKraut | Atula, if you are having a hard time to communicate in english, I belive the guys on #ubuntu-vn speak your language. | 03:25 |
| Atula | i make file with name : mkdir xã | 03:25 |
| Atula | it's no display | 03:26 |
| JanC | seems to work fine here? | 03:32 |
| Atula | i using winscp | 03:33 |
| JanC | ah, maybe something get's lost in the translation from Windows to linux.... | 03:33 |
| Atula | copy file from my computer to server ubuntu 9.10 however it's display : "x?" | 03:33 |
| JanC | see http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/x%C3%A3/test.txt for a test | 03:34 |
| JanC | so the xã works there | 03:34 |
| JanC | http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/xã/test.txt | 03:34 |
| Atula | i see | 03:34 |
| JanC | (should do the same) | 03:34 |
| Atula | ok i wiil check locale | 03:35 |
| JanC | I think something goes wrong between windows & linux | 03:35 |
| JanC | windows doesn't use utf-8 | 03:35 |
| Atula | window: Cp1258 | 03:36 |
| JanC | most filesystems don't "know" what filesystem is used, and filenames are encoded in whatever encoding a program assumes is okay :-/ | 03:37 |
| Atula | ok thanks Janc | 03:37 |
| JanC | so you need to find a program or program option that can convert between cp1258 & utf-8 | 03:38 |
| Atula | ok i see | 03:38 |
| Atula | i can using unikey to convert | 03:38 |
| JanC | maybe winscp can do it on-the-fly if told to, otherwise try other tools ;) | 03:39 |
| Atula | ok | 03:40 |
| JanC | Atula: using Ubuntu on your desktop might avoid this sort of issues too ;) | 03:41 |
| crohakon | notepad++ | 03:41 |
| crohakon | Atula, yes, ditch windows. | 03:42 |
| Atula | i using notepad++ | 03:43 |
| Atula | very good editor | 03:44 |
| twb | Emacs and Vim both run on Windows. | 03:44 |
| crohakon | If I still used windows I would use notepad++ for all my coding | 03:44 |
| twb | FWIW I think current versions of Windows use UTF-16 as the native encoding. | 03:44 |
| crohakon | Now I do most of my coding over SSH on my web server so I just use nano or vi.. mostly nano because it is simple and quick. | 03:45 |
| JanC | twb: actually, they officially use UCS-2 with extensions that essentially mean they use UTF-16, or something like that ;) | 03:52 |
| twb | IIRC UTF-16 addressed UCS-2's inability to reference codepoints outside the first plane, or perhaps vice-versa. | 03:55 |
| twb | Anyways, it doesn't matter. | 03:55 |
| twb | All we really need to do is convince .jp to drop JIS | 03:56 |
| === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond | ||
| JanC | twb: AFAIK Unicode is a JIS standard too ;) | 04:03 |
| JanC | one issue is that glyphs have some differences between Japanese, Chinese, Korean, etc., but are still classified in one "plane" in unicode | 04:05 |
| JanC | at least, that's what I understood | 04:05 |
| tonyyarusso | Hi, would someone be able to explain the differences between NFS, OpenAFS, and sshfs to me? | 04:09 |
| JJman | can someone help me figure out why i can't get mysql reinstalled. after several attempts to remove & reinstall. now all i get is Aborting downgrade from (at least) 5.1 to 5.0. | 04:10 |
| JJman | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-5.0_5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2_i386.deb (--unpack): | 04:10 |
| JJman | But i DONT" have 5.1 installed anymore i have removed all versions and i try to install clean and it just errors out with this | 04:11 |
| guoxiaolong | oh no | 04:21 |
| twb | JJman: downgrading isn't supported. | 04:36 |
| JJman | i uninstalled 5.1 since i couldnt' get it working properly but now i can't even install 5.0 as it errors out | 04:37 |
| JJman | so i'm NOT trying to downgrade. | 04:37 |
| twb | Did you use "aptitude purge"? | 04:38 |
| JJman | apt-get purge yep | 04:38 |
| twb | When it offered to delete your databases, did you tell it to do so? | 04:38 |
| JJman | problem was when i was installing phpmyadmin it decided it didn't want to use 5.1 so it UNINSTALLEd and installed 5.0 and fucked things up | 04:38 |
| JJman | nope. is that the problem. i kept the DB | 04:39 |
| twb | That would be my guess, but I tend to avoid mysql because it's so horrible. | 04:39 |
| JJman | lol. why do u say that | 04:39 |
| twb | You can also try #mysql. | 04:39 |
| JJman | they are well not helpful there most of the time. no one replies | 04:40 |
| JJman | i'll try remove the DB and see if that helps | 04:40 |
| twb | You waited a few hours for a reply? | 04:40 |
| JJman | yes. | 04:40 |
| JJman | i've waited days for a reply | 04:41 |
| twb | Did you ask a Smart Question? (http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html) | 04:41 |
| JJman | #phpmyadminn #mysql are pretty useless channels in my experience | 04:41 |
| JJman | tahts a relative term | 04:42 |
| twb | Yeah -- #ubuntu* is amazingly useless. | 04:42 |
| twb | I only lurk here so that I can pump a few clued people like ScottK for information | 04:42 |
| JJman | #ubuntu is not so. but i've gotten a lot of good elp here in ubuntu-server actually | 04:43 |
| JJman | help | 04:43 |
| JJman | i think #ubuntu just has too many users to be helpful | 04:43 |
| twb | Too many idiots, you mean. A low SNR. | 04:44 |
| JJman | that too | 04:44 |
| JJman | although i often fall into that category as i've not been using linux for years like some of these folks | 04:45 |
| JJman | whattya know that worked. i got 5.0 installed again. Thx. | 04:47 |
| JJman | had to reinstall 5.1 to then purge it again ;-) | 04:47 |
| === nxvl_ is now known as nxvl | ||
| mneptok | MariaDB > MySQL ;) | 05:33 |
| twb | As for me, I would recommend sqlite (if you want simplicity) or postgres (if you want, you know, an actual database). | 05:34 |
| mneptok | twb: MySQL and derivatives are "actual databases" | 05:35 |
| twb | Does MySQL still use a non-atomic database format on Unix by default? | 05:35 |
| mneptok | twb: it's nice you like Postgres, but try to avoid troll-ish FUD. | 05:35 |
| mneptok | twb: depends on your storage engine. | 05:36 |
| twb | I meant MyISAM vs. InnoDB | 05:36 |
| twb | (IIRC; obviously I don't deal with MySQL much.) | 05:36 |
| mneptok | MyISAM is atomic. | 05:37 |
| mneptok | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/storage-engines.html | 05:38 |
| twb | Hm. Maybe I was misremembering; Wikipedia indicates that MyISAM has an (optional?) "full ACID" mode, and merely lacks transactions. | 05:39 |
| mneptok | i'd go with the official documentation over Wikipedia entries. | 05:41 |
| twb | I believe Wikipedia more than primary sources for everything else. I don't know why MySQL would be an exception. | 05:44 |
| * ScottK is not a huge RDBMS expert, but when he works on projects with people who are, they seem to lean pretty heavily to postgresql over mysql. | 06:38 | |
| pwnguin | ScottK: its just a better place to start | 06:40 |
| pwnguin | i have no idea why mysql is so damn popular | 06:40 |
| ScottK | If popularity was related to quality, Windows would be about perfect. | 06:40 |
| pwnguin | however, i think "certified" experts are going to mainly lean oracle | 06:41 |
| twb | ScottK: that's pretty much the case for me, too. | 06:55 |
| === crohakon is now known as crohakon|zZz | ||
| \sh | pwnguin, postgresql is more oracle like then mysql ;) so postgresql is a good solution...(but lacks really some nice stuff like cluster handling and easy master slave synchronization) | 07:16 |
| twb | I think mysql is popular because it's easier to get going than postgres and more powerful than sqlite. | 07:18 |
| twb | So people think they are getting an easy-to-use robust RDBMS rather than a hard-to-use toy | 07:18 |
| \sh | twb, well, looking at some real world projects like booking.com it's a robust RDBMS...forget the lack of sequences...we had to make a decision in the past too...mysql or postgresql...both had pros and cons...and one of the cons for the mysql decision was the cluster package | 07:20 |
| \sh | s/cons/pros/ | 07:22 |
| \sh | need coffee fast | 07:22 |
| MenZa | we all do, shang | 07:23 |
| maxagaz_ | hi | 07:37 |
| maxagaz_ | i have installed a new disk to have more space on a server | 07:38 |
| maxagaz_ | how to prepare it | 07:38 |
| maxagaz_ | i meant, partition, format, mount | 07:38 |
| maxagaz_ | is there a procedure somewhere ? | 07:38 |
| kaushal | hi | 07:38 |
| kaushal | is there a way to get 8.04.2 version ? | 07:39 |
| jmarsden | maxagaz_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive | 07:39 |
| kaushal | http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ gives me 8.04.3 | 07:39 |
| \sh | maxagaz, partitioning: parted <device> ; formatting: mkfs.<your favorite fs> <your new partitions> ; vi /etc/fstab -> add your new partitions to mountpoints | 07:41 |
| maxagaz | jmarsden, thanks! | 07:41 |
| jmarsden | maxagaz: No problem. BTW, all I did was Google for ubuntu add hard drive ... you could have done that too :) | 07:42 |
| tsrk | With vmbuilder, how do I specify the domain of a new VM? | 07:43 |
| jmarsden | tsrk: --domain DOMAIN ... man vmbuilder has this info. | 07:44 |
| tsrk | jmarsden: that looks like it sets the networking domain... i'm trying to set the "name" of the VM, which I thought is also called the domain. I'm probably wrong about something here | 07:46 |
| jmarsden | tsrk: name as in hostname? | 07:46 |
| maxagaz | how to be sur of what /dev/sdx my system is booted on ? | 07:47 |
| tsrk | jmarsden: the name that libvirt uses | 07:47 |
| tsrk | maxagaz: mount | 07:47 |
| pwnguin | \sh: i dont disagree, just saying certified DBA employees seem to have a second job as "oracle salesman" | 07:49 |
| jmarsden | tsrk: Try --hostname HOSTNAME and also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/CreateGuests in case that helps | 07:50 |
| maxagaz | what is the code for ext4 partition, i can't find it in the list provided by cfdisk ? | 07:51 |
| \sh | pwnguin, certified oracle DBAs ;) | 07:52 |
| kaushal | checking in again for my query ? | 07:53 |
| jmarsden | kaushal: I doubt many mirrors will carry 8.04.2 ISO images any more. As soon as you do an apt-get upgrade you'll have 8.04.3 and later anyway, so I'm not sure it is all that useful to download 8.04.2 nowadays... | 07:55 |
| jmarsden | maxagaz: I think you can use the same partition type code for ext4 as you use for ext3 | 07:55 |
| mario__ | Hi, how can i get SMART information from an hard disk in 8.04.3? | 08:23 |
| mario__ | from console | 08:23 |
| kaushal | hi | 10:03 |
| kaushal | is there a way to know which package contains /etc/inetd.conf ? | 10:03 |
| kaushal | on Ubuntu | 10:03 |
| jpds | kaushal: dpkg -S /etc/inetd.conf | 10:05 |
| jpds | !apt-file | kaushal | 10:05 |
| ubottu | kaushal: apt-file is a program that can tell you which package(s) contain(s) a given filename. To install it and generate the database it needs, run "sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update" | 10:05 |
| === alex88[sleep] is now known as alex88 | ||
| maxagaz | how to make sure a firewall allows incoming connections on port 5900 from localhost ? | 11:03 |
| kblin | why would anyone filter on localhost anyway? | 11:06 |
| maxagaz | kblin, nmap localhost -p5900 => close | 11:13 |
| maxagaz | closed | 11:13 |
| maxagaz | how to open it ? | 11:13 |
| kblin | maxagaz: start a server on it? | 11:14 |
| maxagaz | 5900/tcp closed vnc | 11:16 |
| maxagaz | how to start it ? | 11:16 |
| * soren lunches | 11:23 | |
| maxagaz | how to determine my X DISPLAY ? | 11:26 |
| \sh | maxagaz, echo $DISPLAY | 11:40 |
| alex88 | mmhh...how can i configure my domain register to delegate dns to my vps? i've tried with NS myip but it's not working | 11:59 |
| Brumle | alex88: the NS record uses DNSnames, not ip addresses. The NS records on the registrar must be the same as in your SOA record | 12:05 |
| alex88 | mmmhhh..for example, in whois i have ns1.netsons.org ns2.netsons.org as nameserver, ad i can't change it.. in my dns panel i can add A AAAA CNAME MX TXT NS record..what should i do? | 12:06 |
| soren | alex88: It needs to change in the tld's nameserver. | 12:08 |
| alex88 | so i have to change the ns1 and ns2 nameserver? can't delegate to my dns server with some kind of records? | 12:09 |
| soren | alex88: Think about it.. How do I know to begin with to go and look at the current DNS? | 12:09 |
| alex88 | you mean how you can query it? or the current settings? | 12:10 |
| soren | No. | 12:10 |
| alex88 | oh sry...my english is not so good..xD | 12:11 |
| soren | Think about it. You can't put an explanation on how to find something on the thing itself. | 12:11 |
| soren | If you want tell someone how to find your house, it doesn't help to put the map ON your house. | 12:11 |
| soren | Same thing here. | 12:11 |
| alex88 | oh ok got it.. | 12:11 |
| soren | Ok. | 12:12 |
| soren | So *something else* holds the information about which DNS to talk to for your domain. | 12:12 |
| alex88 | mmhhh..i'll open a ticket to my domain registar | 12:13 |
| soren | If you want to talk to ubuntu.com, you (or a nameserver on your behalf) first asks the root name servers: "who knows somthing about .com.?". The response lists a number of name server that know about .com. You then ask those "who knows about ubuntu.com.?". You get back a list of nameservers. You can then ask talk to those about ubuntu.com. | 12:14 |
| soren | See? | 12:14 |
| soren | Changing the NS information on those final nameservers is not enough. You need to move one step back up the chain. | 12:15 |
| soren | (This is not strictly how it works, but it's accurate enough to explain why you're having problems) | 12:15 |
| alex88 | oh ok, got it.. | 12:15 |
| alex88 | but, in this case, querying www.ubuntu.com ask at ubuntu.com the ip of www right? | 12:16 |
| alex88 | i was thinking that changing some info in the ubuntu.com can delegate the www query to another nameserver.. | 12:19 |
| === zoopster1 is now known as zoopster | ||
| Creap | dist-upgrade do not update my server to 9.10 | 12:28 |
| Creap | how do I upgrade? | 12:28 |
| andol | Creap: I would say do-release-upgrade is the command you are looking for. | 12:32 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #475641 in lm-sensors (main) "pwmconfig does not work after upgrade to 9.10 on TYAN server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/475641 | 12:33 |
| Creap | it tells me not to upgrade via ssh, but I don't have a graphics card, I hope there's usually no big problems with the upgrade? | 12:34 |
| pmatulis | Creap: what about a serial connection? | 12:35 |
| pmatulis | Creap: i have seen a jaunty-karmic upgrade fail spectacularly. do you have backups? | 12:35 |
| Creap | I don't have a monitor either ;D only laptop + server | 12:35 |
| Creap | yeah the kubuntu upgrade failed on my work computer | 12:36 |
| Creap | I guess I'll just not upgrade | 12:36 |
| pmatulis | Creap: if there is no compelling reason to, you shouldn't upgrade a server, more so if it an important server, and even more so if you have no backups | 12:37 |
| Creap | it's not an production server or anything like that | 12:38 |
| Creap | looking at the changelog now | 12:38 |
| Creap | I guess the only interesting part for me is ext4 | 12:39 |
| Creap | which I don't really need 9.10 for anyway so.. | 12:39 |
| incorrect | off topic, but can anyone suggest a good US ubuntu 9.10 vm provider? | 13:06 |
| Pici | incorrect: Look into linode. | 13:07 |
| === adrian_ is now known as blackxored | ||
| incorrect | thanks Pici | 13:23 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #476491 in dhcp3 (main) "[karmic regression] Hostname not set by dhclient when no hostname defined in /etc/hosts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/476491 | 14:11 |
| cesco | Hi. Anybody with experience on DAT tapes? | 14:49 |
| ghankstef | what is the best way to stay on top of security updates? I heard there was an openssl flaw just discovered - but dont know if ubuntu server has a patch yet | 14:49 |
| gioele | hello, is there an (official) PPA with VDE-enabled KVM packages? | 14:50 |
| soren | gioele: I doubt it. | 14:51 |
| gioele | soren: :( | 14:51 |
| soren | gioele: Most of the time, you don't actually need vde. | 14:52 |
| stgraber | gioele: if you install vde2, you can then use "vdekvm" which will make the vde network working inside kvm | 14:52 |
| gioele | stgraber: vdekvm is deprecated upstread (vde) not the debian|ubuntu packages are not working anymore | 14:53 |
| gioele | I mean they start but the networking fails to set up | 14:53 |
| gioele | stgraber: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=534321 | 14:54 |
| uvirtbot | Debian bug 534321 in vde2 "vde2: ioctl error on vde network" [Important,Open] | 14:54 |
| stgraber | really ? I did all the iso testing for LTSP with two VMs using vde2 for virtual switching | 14:54 |
| stgraber | (in Karmic) | 14:54 |
| soren | stgraber: Why did you need VDE for that? | 14:54 |
| gioele | stgraber: using the kvm in karmic? | 14:54 |
| stgraber | yep | 14:54 |
| soren | A bridge already acts as a virtual switch. | 14:54 |
| gioele | soren: a bridge requires quite a bit of configuration | 14:55 |
| stgraber | soren: sure but when you PXE boot, the delay between the time the interface joins the switch and the time it actually works is too long | 14:55 |
| stgraber | soren: and so it fails 50% of the time | 14:55 |
| stgraber | also, you need to be root to add a bridge | 14:55 |
| gioele | stgraber: did you use vde_switch with --tap? | 14:56 |
| soren | stgraber: You can adjust that delay.. | 14:59 |
| soren | gioele: You're kidding, right? | 14:59 |
| soren | gioele: You think it's easier to setup vde than a bridge? | 14:59 |
| gioele | soren: I'd say so: http://www.debianadmin.com/create-a-lan-for-virtual-servers-with-kvm-and-vde.html | 15:00 |
| soren | With libvirt, the bridge is even already there. | 15:01 |
| soren | The default for new VM's is to hook into the bridge. It can't possibly be any easier. | 15:01 |
| gioele | soren: libvirt != a bridge. I was referring to a manual configuration | 15:03 |
| gioele | stgraber: I just tested again: the two instances refuse to connect each other, each vdekvm says http://pastie.org/686485 | 15:04 |
| stgraber | gioele: i tried with vde_switch -sock /tmp/vde IIRC | 15:05 |
| soren | gioele: Err.. No, I know that libvirt is not a bridge. It's a library (and a daemon). It sets up a bridge, though. | 15:09 |
| stgraber | hmm, can't seem to make it to work again ... I used it last week (first time I used it) and it worked, not sure what changed in between | 15:15 |
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| smoser | kirkland, chat sometime today ? | 15:19 |
| kirkland | smoser: sure, irc, or phone? | 15:25 |
| soren | kirkland: Do you know if any laptop battery for any T-series will fit the one I bought from you? | 15:25 |
| smoser | i was thinking phone | 15:25 |
| kirkland | soren: any t6* series, yes | 15:25 |
| soren | kirkland: Cool. Thanks. | 15:26 |
| kirkland | soren: ie, not a t41p's battery | 15:26 |
| kirkland | soren: want the docking station for $20? | 15:26 |
| kirkland | smoser: give me 15 minutes | 15:28 |
| smoser | kirkland, i'll give you $20 for it. | 15:29 |
| smoser | in fact, please, i want to give you $20 for it. | 15:30 |
| soren | kirkland: Sure. | 15:30 |
| soren | kirkland: In fact, that would be awesome. | 15:30 |
| soren | kirkland: I'm bringing a suit case anyway, so I've got plenty of room for once. | 15:31 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #476578 in samba (main) "After upgrade to karmic samba ignored /etc/samba/smbpasswd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/476578 | 15:36 |
| kirkland | smoser: soren: heh, well, you're going to have to duke it out :-) | 15:42 |
| kirkland | or start a bidding war :-) | 15:42 |
| smoser | $20.02 | 15:42 |
| soren | kirkland: Can't I pull rank or seniority or something? :) | 15:43 |
| kirkland | :-) | 15:43 |
| soren | Arm wrestle? | 15:43 |
| kirkland | soren: that works better in the military | 15:43 |
| soren | I'd probably lose that one, but it'd be fun. | 15:43 |
| kirkland | you should have a hack off | 15:43 |
| soren | realtimebattle | 15:43 |
| soren | ! | 15:43 |
| * soren takes a quick break | 15:51 | |
| === StrangeCharm_ is now known as StrangeCharm | ||
| gioele | I'd like to recompile kvm and repackage qemu-kvm. Are there instructions on how to do that? Do you use bzr-builddeb? | 16:30 |
| gioele | kirkland: I see you have a qemu-kvm-packaging branch in +junk, do you use that to package qemu-kvm? | 16:31 |
| bogeyd6 | gioele im probably only one alive, and i only ever used vmware | 16:37 |
| kirkland | gioele: i don't use that yet | 16:42 |
| kirkland | gigasoft: apt-get source qemu-kvm | 16:42 |
| kirkland | gioele: apt-get source qemu-kvm | 16:42 |
| kirkland | gioele: cd * | 16:42 |
| kirkland | gioele: debuild | 16:42 |
| kirkland | well, sudo apt-get build-dep qemu-kvm | 16:42 |
| gioele | kirkland: ok, thank you. I hoped I could try this new bzr-builddeb toy ;) | 16:43 |
| kirkland | gioele: bzr branch lp:byobu | 16:43 |
| kirkland | gioele: cd byobu | 16:43 |
| kirkland | gioele: bzr bd | 16:43 |
| gioele | kirkland: great I'll try that soon (paid job first ;)) | 16:44 |
| gigasoft | <kirkland> why? | 16:47 |
| kirkland | gigasoft: tab completion fail | 16:47 |
| gigasoft | kirkland: what for? | 16:47 |
| kirkland | gigasoft: i was trying to tab complete gioele | 16:47 |
| gigasoft | why should i do that? | 16:48 |
| kirkland | gigasoft: i mistakenly called your name | 16:48 |
| gigasoft | ok | 16:48 |
| flagg0204 | are their ubuntu debs available for eucalyptus 1.6.1? | 17:12 |
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| kane_ | flagg0204: yes, from eucalyptus.com: http://repo.eucalyptus.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/e/eucalyptus/ | 17:20 |
| flagg0204 | kane_ ah cool thanks | 17:22 |
| kane_ | flagg0204: instructions here: http://open.eucalyptus.com/wiki/EucalyptusInstallationUbuntuJaunty_v1.6 | 17:22 |
| kane_ | flagg0204: no problem | 17:22 |
| dmacnutt | anyone with ltsp experience? | 17:23 |
| dmacnutt | was able to install without issue, and can get the thin client to boot, but X fails to start, It stalls with the a busy mouse cursor | 17:24 |
| flagg0204 | kane_ am i correct in assuming that these instructions will work with karmic as well? | 17:25 |
| flagg0204 | kane_ or is that jaunty only | 17:25 |
| kane_ | flagg0204: i'm afraid this was just my google skills at work :) it'd stand to reason they'd work though | 17:25 |
| flagg0204 | kane_ ok. well guess it worth a shot | 17:26 |
| lukehasnoname | Good morning, gents | 17:40 |
| lukehasnoname | Has anyone in this distinguished channel used FireHOL? | 17:40 |
| lukehasnoname | I don't need help with it; I want to know if anyone else thinks it's exponentially cooler than ufw (though props to ufw on their improvements in Karmic) | 17:44 |
| * ScottK just has his own iptables scripts. | 17:44 | |
| * jdstrand uses ufw | 17:44 | |
| ScottK | Right, you would. ;-) | 17:45 |
| jdstrand | :) | 17:45 |
| lukehasnoname | heh | 17:46 |
| lukehasnoname | Given the number of mature frontends to iptables, I assert that all but the most complex of configurations (possibly /especially/ the most complex) need not use iptables directly. | 17:47 |
| ScottK | lukehasnoname: My assertion is that I've had iptables scripts that work for me for years, so any switch away from using iptables directly would cause me more work, not less. | 17:48 |
| lukehasnoname | True. It is all about what you know. | 17:49 |
| doug_ | I'm running ubuntu-9.10 server and just installed mysql-server. However, there are no files in either /etc/mysql or /var/lib/mysql. How do I get the configuration and initial database files added? | 17:58 |
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| lukehasnoname | doug_: Have you attempted logging in? | 18:11 |
| flagg0204 | lukehasnoname - agreed with iptables, having to manage a 300-400 lines iptables script is a nightmare. i'd also argue that if your rules are that comples, by a appliance based FW | 18:12 |
| doug_ | lukehasnoname: I can't log into the mysql server....it won't start because of the missing config (and other) files. | 18:13 |
| lukehasnoname | Possible. OR check out FireHOL. I have no personal gain in its gain in popularity, but seriously, it's pretty amazing. Not perfect, but it's very handy. the home page (google it) has a very nice example setup. | 18:13 |
| lukehasnoname | doug_: OK, I kind of expected that. Hmmm, that's weird. This isn't the most popular method of fixing it, but if it's this broken... I'd say uninstall/reinstall the package and see what happens. Make sure it's calling in the right dependencies as well; 'mysql-server' is a metapackage | 18:14 |
| doug_ | lukehasnoname: I've already done that several times....still doesn't install the files for /etc/mysql or /var/lib/mysql, and possibly others. | 18:18 |
| lukehasnoname | I don't know what to tell you doug_ | 18:27 |
| lukehasnoname | is it installing all dependencies correctly? | 18:28 |
| lukehasnoname | No messed up write permissions on those folders? | 18:28 |
| doug_ | luke: I appreciate the help. It's just wierd and frustrating that installing the packages leaves it in a state without the config files and unstartable. :-) | 18:29 |
| jkakar | I'm just reviewing the UEC setup instructions and wondering, is it possible to setup an all-in-one cluster controller and node on the same machine? | 18:29 |
| jkakar | I just want to play with UEC, but I only have a single machine. | 18:30 |
| doug_ | I gotta run for now. Thanks for the help and I'll be back later. | 18:34 |
| lukehasnoname | doug_: later. jkakar: I don't know. I would think so, however, I would think it'd be beneficial to have at least two computers to play with for UEC | 18:34 |
| jkakar | lukehasnoname: Yeah, it probably would. | 18:35 |
| jkakar | I'm just wondering if things like network discovery of nodes will work if the node is on the same machine as the controller. | 18:35 |
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| m8 | Hi, I can install vnc4server witouth xorg? | 19:02 |
| _ruben | m8: so you want to vnc into text-only machine? | 19:05 |
| _ruben | ssh seems way more suited for that | 19:05 |
| m8 | __ruben: yes | 19:05 |
| m8 | but a want a virtual desktop for some apps... | 19:06 |
| m8 | *i want | 19:06 |
| _ruben | err, what would a vnc session to a text-only machine offer more than a ssh terminal window? | 19:06 |
| m8 | i want to run a Xfce virtual desktop accessibile whit vnc.... if there are alternatives... tell me! | 19:06 |
| m8 | __ruben.... offer to run some apps.. i need | 19:07 |
| m8 | :o | 19:07 |
| _ruben | so you want to run xfce on a machine without X, im not sure i understand what you're trying achieve | 19:07 |
| m8 | xfce on virtual desktop | 19:07 |
| _ruben | define "virtual desktop" | 19:08 |
| m8 | an istance of X | 19:09 |
| m8 | in a headless pc | 19:09 |
| m8 | :o | 19:09 |
| _ruben | X on a headless pc? .. that doesnt make sense at all .. tho perhaps this is what you want: machine A (a desktop) has X running, machine B (a server) is text only, you want to run graphical apps on B, but use the screen of A .. ? | 19:10 |
| m8 | .... | 19:13 |
| m8 | i want to run a Virtual Desktop(an instance of vnc4server) | 19:13 |
| kane_ | m8: that's actually an x/y problem :) the solution to your real problem is running the vnc4server... what's the underlying problem? ie, what will you use the vnc4server for exactly? | 19:14 |
| _ruben | exactly what im trying to find out, but am failing so to do so | 19:15 |
| * _ruben moves on | 19:15 | |
| m8 | kane_ :) | 19:15 |
| m8 | for run X apps on a headless pc :D | 19:16 |
| kane_ | m8: so you dont want to attach a monitor to the device. That still means you need X to run the graphical environment though. | 19:17 |
| m8 | ok | 19:17 |
| m8 | and I need xorg, right? | 19:17 |
| kane_ | m8: i think the vnc4server package already depends on the libraries you need. | 19:18 |
| m8 | ok :) | 19:18 |
| m8 | and i need to install a desktop manager | 19:18 |
| m8 | like Xfce4 | 19:19 |
| m8 | it's right ? | 19:19 |
| kane_ | m8: the ubuntu forums actually have a thread about this here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=690895 | 19:19 |
| zul | ttx: what would the Vcs-Bzr: line in the debian/control be now that apache2 is apart of the distributed development thing | 19:19 |
| m8 | wow | 19:19 |
| m8 | :D | 19:19 |
| kane_ | m8: yeah, you'll want a windowmanager -- you're basically setting up a 'normal' machine, except you're using your other pc as the screen | 19:20 |
| ttx | zul: what does it currently say ? | 19:20 |
| zul | there isnt one there is the svn one for debian | 19:20 |
| m8 | ok :) | 19:20 |
| ttx | zul: I don't think you need to update it for DistributedDevelopment | 19:21 |
| zul | I was just going to add Vcs-Bzr: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2 | 19:21 |
| zul | meh I can always fix it later | 19:21 |
| ttx | zul: it superfluous since in the end they will all be | 19:22 |
| zul | true | 19:22 |
| ttx | zul: but that's not incorrect ;) | 19:22 |
| zul | ttx: thanks | 19:22 |
| jcastro | kirkland, can you ask anthony to subscribe to "community-lucid-launchpad-upstream-improvements" and mark himself as essential, thus forcing it to be scheduled on a day he'll be there? | 19:43 |
| jcastro | kirkland, I've got a solution to the patch thing I want to pitch to the lp team | 19:44 |
| jcastro | having real upstreams there nodding profusedly would be sweet | 19:44 |
| kirkland | jcastro: pasted your request to aliguori in #ubuntu-virt | 19:44 |
| jcastro | kirkland, if there's any blueprint he feels he needs to be at making himself as essential will force the system to schedule it on those days | 19:45 |
| kirkland | jcastro: cool | 19:45 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #476831 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocesso instalado o programa post-installation retornou erro do status de sa?da 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/476831 | 19:46 |
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| wwp | hello i have got troubles installing xen on x86_64 karmic (alternative / server kernel) - the problem is that i cannot boot using the xen kernel and grub (grub-pc) does not offer any options on boot | 20:07 |
| wwp | and i'm new to grub2 - missing the menu.lst -.- | 20:08 |
| jcastro | kirkland, let's hallway discuss your kvm testing thing at UDS | 20:13 |
| jcastro | I've wanted something like that for a long time | 20:13 |
| jcastro | except I envisioned it right in the GUI for virt-manager | 20:14 |
| jcastro | New->Ubuntu->Blah 7.10 | 20:14 |
| jcastro | or whatever | 20:14 |
| wwp | no ideas so far? | 20:15 |
| pmatulis | anyone here use sbuild? | 20:18 |
| zzz20092 | ? what the hell is going on with amavisd setup, the config is scattered over hells half acre!! | 20:19 |
| ScottK | zzz20092: Standard for the package we get from Debian. | 20:41 |
| ScottK | zzz20092: It's actually a lot saner than it first appears. | 20:41 |
| ScottK | Make your changes in (IIRC) 50-user and it over-rides anything in the earlier config files. That way your changes never get over-ridden on upgrade. | 20:42 |
| android6011 | during the install hwo can I completely format all the disks including existing grub to mbr installs. Also, how can I pick which disk to install grub to | 20:49 |
| zzz20092 | ScottK: I tried putting my stuff in the 50-user, didn't do what i wanted it kept quarantining stuff rather than just discarding junk. | 20:54 |
| zzz20092 | ScottK: I have a similar problem with the postfix setup, I have 4 log files (mail.err, mail.info, mail.log, mail.warn) all contain the same info, but I cannot find out where to turn the them off. | 21:00 |
| ScottK | zzz20092: Then it's an issue with what you are putting in the file, not which file you are putting them in. | 21:00 |
| ScottK | zzz20092: For postfix, .err and .warn have subsets of .log | 21:00 |
| ScottK | So they aren't the same. | 21:01 |
| zzz20092 | ScottK: the subsets contain the same info as the log, why bother just takes up space and confuses the issue. | 21:02 |
| ScottK | Well if you are looking for just serious stuff, looking in .error or .warn is useful. | 21:03 |
| ScottK | .error should be empty all the time anyway | 21:03 |
| android6011 | for data partitions what is a good filesystem. | 21:04 |
| android6011 | they will be doing a lot of network transfers | 21:04 |
| android6011 | and not losing data is very important even though I am doing backups | 21:05 |
| zzz20092 | ScottK: As a retired engineer I strongly believe in the KISS principal, and what I am seeing does not follow it. | 21:06 |
| ScottK | zzz20092: Personally I think .info and .log is overkill, but I sometimes find a separate .warn/.error useful for troubleshooting. | 21:07 |
| ScottK | Normally I only look at/grep .log | 21:07 |
| ScottK | android6011: ext3 then. | 21:08 |
| zzz20092 | ScottK: ditto | 21:08 |
| android6011 | ScottK: why do you say ext3 | 21:08 |
| ScottK | Because it's the most reliable/supported in the kernel today. | 21:08 |
| ScottK | ResierFS is essentially unmaintained and has been for years. Ext4 still has open data loss bugs. | 21:09 |
| ScottK | Ext2 isn't journaled. | 21:09 |
| ScottK | Anything newer is just crack if you care about your data | 21:09 |
| android6011 | so no xfs or jfs? | 21:13 |
| zzz20092 | android6011: ext3 is probably the best for general use, but you haven't told use much about your data | 21:14 |
| android6011 | zzz20092: like what | 21:14 |
| android6011 | there are a lot of large video files etc I edit | 21:14 |
| ScottK | android6011: I don't know enough about them to have confidence. | 21:15 |
| zzz20092 | androd6011: i'd stick to ext3, xfs/jfs might be an option if you were storing lots of small files as they have sub-block allocation. | 21:17 |
| android6011 | zzz20092: I do have a lot of small files too. I do web design on the side so I have tons of web projects stored at any given time | 21:19 |
| zzz20092 | android6011: how much Linux experience do you have? | 21:22 |
| android6011 | zzz20092: quite a bit | 21:22 |
| zzz20092 | android6011: then you could try setting up 1 partition with ext3 and another with xfs, mount the as video and web_dev and use appropriately, on the other hand you could just use ext3 for everything and save yourself some trouble. | 21:26 |
| === roaksoax__ is now known as RoAk | ||
| uvirtbot | New bug: #476935 in squid (main) "Massively parallel builds make for very unhappy buildds" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/476935 | 21:31 |
| android6011 | ok | 21:31 |
| android6011 | also, how can I spin down a hard drive after being idle for say 1 hour. And is smart enabled by default, if so where is the info logged? if not how do i enable it | 21:32 |
| genii | !info smartmontools | 21:37 |
| ubottu | smartmontools (source: smartmontools): control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.38-3ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 323 kB, installed size 804 kB | 21:37 |
| zzz20092 | android6011: if memory serves smart is usually set in bios setup, you could also take a look smartmontools | 21:38 |
| jmedina | zzz20092: you can enable SMART using command line toos | 21:40 |
| === joseph_ is now known as crohakon | ||
| zzz20092 | jmedina: Ok, I just took a quick look at smartmontools and gsmat.... not particularly useful I<HO | 21:58 |
| zzz20092 | I<HO -> IMHO | 21:58 |
| lamont | kirkland: thoughts on bug 445456? - heard a rumor you might have thoughts on it. | 22:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 445456 in linux "kvm hangs booting windows XP Pro SP2 or later, since at least 2.6.28-15" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445456 | 22:08 |
| helfire__ | i have a 8.04.3 LTS server, about every 2 weeks the load from apache goes through the roof and i have to do a forced restart. Any ideas why this happens? | 22:38 |
| smackdad1y | . | 22:39 |
| dfdfsd | l | 22:39 |
| jmedina | helfire__: hard to guess without evidence, you need to look at your apache logs en syslog for related messages | 22:41 |
| jmedina | probably a bad code application or a attack | 22:41 |
| helfire__ | jmedina: the weird thing is i dont see anything out of line in the logs, and it seams to be every 2 weeks to the day | 22:54 |
| helfire__ | but i'm going to browse through them again since it happened again today | 22:54 |
| helfire__ | my load always hovers around .20 even though nothing is running (atleast not shown in top or htop) | 22:55 |
| kane_ | helfire__: can you see wehre the load is coming from at least? cpu, disk, network? | 22:56 |
| helfire__ | kane_: not really. maybe i'm not looking with the right tool | 22:58 |
| helfire__ | in syslog i'm seeing alot of spam mail getting rejected from www-data@myserver.com, kind of odd | 22:58 |
| jmedina | :) | 22:59 |
| kane_ | *from* the apache user? | 23:00 |
| helfire__ | ya | 23:00 |
| jmedina | they are spmming trhgouth a web form or something? | 23:00 |
| kane_ | .. is your apache sending mail to you? | 23:00 |
| helfire__ | no, well i dont have it configured to | 23:00 |
| helfire__ | atleast not a box that's real | 23:00 |
| helfire__ | lots of postfix warnings: warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: Permission denied | 23:00 |
| kane_ | seems worthwhile to chase that down | 23:02 |
| helfire__ | hmmm, i may have my postfix configured badly... | 23:02 |
| kane_ | btw, htop should be good enough to show you what processees are causing the load and why | 23:03 |
| helfire__ | right before my forced reboot i have cron doing some mrtg stuff, and freshclam downloading new definitions | 23:04 |
| helfire__ | i am just shutting down my mail server as i dont use em :) | 23:05 |
| helfire__ | so i have cought about 100 apache2 proc's running before this happened, was too slow to get them with a kilall | 23:07 |
| kane_ | that's a lot of processes -- is that by design? | 23:07 |
| helfire__ | no | 23:07 |
| helfire__ | not sure how that many got spawned | 23:08 |
| kane_ | that's probably a good sign of resource exhaustion -- check the state of those... possibly they're zombies | 23:11 |
| helfire__ | [Fri Nov 06 03:00:28 2009] [error] server reached MaxClients setting, consider raising the MaxClients setting | 23:11 |
| helfire__ | that was near the lock up | 23:12 |
| helfire__ | looks like a bot trying to attack and find something | 23:12 |
| helfire__ | lots of weird requests and bad headers | 23:12 |
| kane_ | firewall hoooooo! | 23:12 |
| helfire__ | haha | 23:13 |
| helfire__ | lots of ip's too | 23:13 |
| helfire__ | :/ | 23:13 |
| helfire__ | might have to change sshd to run on a different port too... noticing alot there | 23:14 |
| helfire__ | grep "an unknown filter was not added: PHP" apache2/error.log -c | 23:17 |
| helfire__ | 48916 | 23:17 |
| helfire__ | hmm should take care of that :) | 23:17 |
| helfire__ | this sever has "just worked" since 06, needs some TLC | 23:17 |
| zzz20092 | ttt | 23:30 |
| smackdaddy | how can i assign individual hostnames to each of my network cards | 23:33 |
| lamont | smackdaddy: in what sense? | 23:37 |
| lamont | as in, within what app? | 23:37 |
| smackdaddy | well.. say a user connects via ssh to domain1.com it will show user@domain1.com... | 23:38 |
| smackdaddy | on the console | 23:38 |
| smackdaddy | and different fr each ip... | 23:38 |
| helfire__ | can i start up a backup sshd server incase changing ports on my default one messes up | 23:44 |
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