[00:48] <vidd> hello all
[00:49] <vidd> how do i get rid of this god-awful coloring and get the "classic" xubuntu look?
[00:50] <knome> ?
[00:50] <vidd> the panel is black
[00:50] <knome> yes.
[00:50] <vidd> the menu bar is black
[00:50] <knome> applications -> settings -> appearance
[00:50] <vidd> this is ugly
[00:51] <vidd> what was 9.04?
[00:52] <knome> murrinastormcloud maybe
[00:53] <vidd> the coloring is MUCH better
[00:55] <vidd> ty
[00:55] <knome> np
[01:11] <stormybaby> Hi! I'm a first time xubuntu/linux user
[01:12] <stormybaby> Can anyone help me with the fonts on firefox? I don't like the way they are displayed
[01:12] <stormybaby> How can I make them look more like firefox in Windows?
[05:12] <than0> Hi. How do I disable the annoying buzz sound in console and firefox?
[05:12] <than0> i tried to disable by using sound alerts setting in sound mixer preference, but this has no effect.
[05:13] <than0> The error sound sounds like the old style PC beeps, but more annoying..
[06:11] <Tesssa> i am using xubuntu 9.10 set to automatic login but now and again it starts up with the login window and i have try several times typing in my password  untill eventually it works anyone tell me why it does this please
[07:24] <aigon> Does ubuntu provide free storage?
[07:25] <psycho_oreos> sorta doubt it, why?
[09:30] <kpel> Hi guys. Does Xubuntu 9.10 support EeePC 1000 out of the box? Do things like wifi, webcam, bluetooth "just work"?
[13:11] <Animagladius> Huhu.
[13:51] <wrgb> Animagladius: do you have a question?
[13:54] <Animagladius> Nope, I'm here to help other people, if needed. But thanks. :)
[13:55] <wrgb> Animagladius: yeah, me too:)
[14:06] <druid_> hello
[14:07] <likemindead> !hi | druid_
[14:07] <druid_> I have a problem with xfce eating my Escape keys
[14:08] <druid_> when I run xev and press Escape the actions I get is FocusOut - FocusIn
[14:09] <druid_> instead of the usual KeyPressed - KeyReleased
[14:10] <druid_> does anyone know what might be the problem?
[14:10] <MoonTiger> hi :)
[14:11] <druid_> Hello MoonTiger
[14:12] <MoonTiger> so i'm finding the bluetooth completely foobar'd in karmic xubuntu ... is it just me?
[14:19] <likemindead> My laptop is hanging on shut down and never powers off. Anyone else having this issue & know how to address it?
[14:19] <MoonTiger> i have had that related to bluetooth ... do you have a bluetooth adapter built in?
[14:19] <charlie-tca> Yes, others are seeing this in 9.10. Don't know how to fix it yet
[14:20] <charlie-tca> bug 475920
[14:20] <likemindead> Ah.
[14:20] <charlie-tca> if you could add any information that will help. Also, you might add what your hardware is.
[14:21] <likemindead> No, MoonTiger, this laptop doesn't have Bluetooth.
[14:21] <MoonTiger> ok
[14:21] <charlie-tca> At least add that you experience it. gives me better grounds to confirm it
[14:21] <likemindead> Link to bug, charlie-tca ?
[14:22] <charlie-tca> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475920
[14:23] <likemindead> Gracias.
[14:23] <charlie-tca> No, thank you
[14:25] <MoonTiger> ahhhhhhh i'm seeing this too ... last night i thought i had shut my other laptop down but today it was actually still on with a blank screen
[14:25] <MoonTiger> hmmmmmmm karmic is looking a little shaky right now
[14:25] <charlie-tca> It seems so, at times.
[14:25] <likemindead> All the bad press is really frustrating. ;-(
[14:25] <MoonTiger> wonder if its worth going back to jaunty for a while more
[14:26] <likemindead> "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"
[14:26] <charlie-tca> It might be, MoonTiger
[14:26] <charlie-tca> likemindead: agreed
[14:26] <charlie-tca> but I wonder how much is because we have grown so much?
[14:26] <charlie-tca> If Microsoft wasn't running scared of us, would you see so much press?
[14:26] <MoonTiger> likemindead, i know the sky isnt falling and i know they will iron out the problems but i do need to actually be able to use my computers for work stuff so i cannot have serious issues like this happening
[14:27] <likemindead> Sorry, MoonTiger, that wasn't directed at you, but at the bad press reactionaries.
[14:27] <MoonTiger> i just think the 6 month release regardless is wrong
[14:27] <MoonTiger> likemindead, oh sorry ;)
[14:27] <MoonTiger> if it isnt ready it isnt ready so dont release
[14:28] <charlie-tca> For some, we are like ms now, gotta wait 6 months to iron out the wrinkles before upgrading. For others, the need to upgrade is right now.
[14:28] <likemindead> I just try to tell people to use the LTS in most cases. I tell them the six-month releases are for bleeding edge, risk takers.
[14:28] <charlie-tca> Intel video is working again in 9.10
[14:28] <MoonTiger> charlie-tca, i have an ati card so im screwed with either
[14:29] <charlie-tca> sorry! for you, a couple of months, at least, before upgrading.
[14:29] <MoonTiger> i will give karmic until i do a clean install of the release version of 7 to come right otherwise i'll wipe and go back to jaunty til its fixed i think
[14:30] <MoonTiger> and likemindead you are right ... MS is making sure any small glitches with anything else gets a lot of press
[14:30] <Pres-Gas> There was bound to be some hickups with this release because of so much underlying things changing (ext4, upstart, grub2)...
[14:30] <MoonTiger> yah agreed
[14:30] <charlie-tca> Some of the items were already fixed in updates, but I don't think the shutdown issue was even known.
[14:31] <MoonTiger> i think maybe they should have delayed launch for another 2 weeks or so to find these things
[14:31] <Pres-Gas> I just wish they would have held out on grub2 until upstream had good documentation on it...that is my only beef.  Right now, Ubu has the best, but last I checked it is burried in the wiki
[14:31] <MoonTiger> i mean a week between RC and RTM isn't very long
[14:31] <charlie-tca> But those who test it still haven't seen these things
[14:31] <charlie-tca> The only ones seeing them did not do the tests
[14:32] <MoonTiger> with a longer RC period they might have gotten more reports
[14:32] <likemindead> I'm hearing that Xubuntu 9.10 is having fewer issues than Ubuntu 9.10 ;-)
[14:32] <likemindead> At least from my LUG.
[14:33] <charlie-tca> We have fewer users, too
[14:33] <likemindead> Xfce FTW!
[14:33] <MoonTiger> well im on xubuntu and having these issues
[14:33] <charlie-tca> yes
[14:34] <charlie-tca> and every user with issues counts
[14:34] <MoonTiger> i mean i have a pretty common laptop i think ... a thinkpad
[14:34] <Pres-Gas> charlie-tca is right...if more people used it, that stuff would be revealed as well.
[14:34] <MoonTiger> so its not like i have some really obscure hardware
[14:35] <MoonTiger> funnily enough the newer thinkpad has less issues
[14:35] <charlie-tca> Unfortunately, thinkpads are also some of the most difficult to get working right in Linux, MoonTiger
[14:36] <charlie-tca> There are whole websites dedicated to solving thinkpad issues
[14:36] <MoonTiger> charlie-tca, huh?? the frdora guys develop on thinkpads
[14:36] <MoonTiger> my thinkpad t500 has no issues at all
[14:36] <Sysi> they are rather common, that's good
[14:36] <charlie-tca> Great!
[14:37] <MoonTiger> my older t41p has the bluetooth and shutdown problems
[14:37] <MoonTiger> otherwise it runs great with karmic
[14:37] <MoonTiger> and im loving the firefix 3.5 integration finally
[14:37] <charlie-tca> That's why I asked for the hardware info on the bug report
[14:38] <charlie-tca> Maybe it is limited to specific hardware
[14:38] <MoonTiger> its just odd that older hardware breaks ... usually the other way round
[14:39] <charlie-tca> The Newest breaks, too
[14:50] <likemindead> Later, all. Peace.
[14:57] <charlie-tca> OpenWeek session - Xubuntu Team in 3 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[15:33] <bensherman> Hey guys, gdm is launghing xfce4 and immideatly crashing - where are the logs?  I'm new to ubuntu
[15:33] <bensherman> *launching
[15:52] <_Pete_> /var/log
[18:26] <than0> Anyone having problem with Xubuntu karmic booting up to desktop?
[18:27] <than0> After last night's update (proposed), GDM doesn't start automatically, mousepad doesn't work, and a lot of modules don't autoload. networking stopped working
[18:28] <likemindead> I was having issues, but this morning's updates fixed them, than0.
[18:29] <than0> likemindead, similar issues?
[18:29] <than0> no gdm after update?
[18:29] <likemindead> I have it set to auto-login, so I'm not sure. :-
[18:29] <than0> alas, I have no network after last night's update (which seemed to have updated xorg)..
[18:30] <than0> so I can't update.. and I have no live boot disk as I did net install for xubuntu.
[18:30]  * than0 using ubuntu now
[18:38] <slyboots> Hello, Im curious if anyone can throw me a bit of advice.  Changed Ubuntu-server to Xubuntu but I cant seem to get Xfce to ..start as default
[18:38] <slyboots> Its for a headless server, but I often NX into it so.. need a UI
[19:41] <Tonno> Hi to all :)
[19:51] <Tonno> Can i use AWM in xubuntu without usi compiz?
[19:53] <Sysi> yes
[19:53] <Sysi> just use xfce's own compozing
[19:55] <Xubuntus> Hi, everyone. Anyone with sound working and ALC833 (or the Motherboard MSI K9VGM-V)?
[19:56] <Tonno> Sysi, thannks :)
[20:02] <Tonno> Sysi, oh my god it look awesome! :D
[20:04] <KushVapors> anyone here?
[20:05] <subspider> yes sir
[20:05] <Xubuntus> Hi, everyone. Anyone with sound working and ALC883 (or the Motherboard MSI K9VGM-V)?   (I Changed to 883, from the above line.)
[20:05] <KushVapors> has anyone used synce?
[20:08] <subspider> you mean tu sincronize mobile devices??
[20:08] <KushVapors> yes
[20:08] <subspider> no
[20:09] <subspider> not me
[20:09] <KushVapors> it uses gvfs
[20:09] <subspider> but what is your question??
[20:09] <KushVapors> is that compatible with thunar
[20:11] <subspider> you mean if it runs on xfce
[20:12] <KushVapors> i guess
[20:12] <subspider> ok
[20:12] <subspider> i'm installing
[20:12] <hannes|> why does xubuntu not provide their artwork via xfce-look.org or gnome-art.org?
[20:12] <KushVapors> gvfs is supposed to interact with fuse
[20:22] <subspider> i can't pu it running
[20:24] <KushVapors> http://www.synce.org/moin/SynceTools
[20:24] <subspider> i can
[20:24] <subspider> it's running
[20:24] <subspider> ok
[20:24] <subspider> it's easy
[20:24] <subspider> go to synaptic
[20:25] <subspider> Applications -> system > synaptic
[20:25] <subspider> then
[20:25] <subspider> you install go find for synce
[20:26] <subspider> you click to install the packge synce-kpm
[20:26] <KushVapors> yea i installed synce but i need to go to synce:/// in thunar to access my phone
[20:26] <subspider> then you apply and wait
[20:26] <subspider> hm you want to open the application
[20:26] <subspider> ??
[20:27] <KushVapors> no access my phone
[20:27] <KushVapors> its used to access smartphones
[20:28] <KushVapors> i could open my phone in nautilus but cant in thunar
[20:29] <subspider> sorry can't help you
[20:29] <subspider> what is you phone
[20:29] <subspider> ??
[20:29] <KushVapors> htc touch
[20:29] <subspider> hm
[20:30] <KushVapors> jus wonderin if there is a way to browse its memory usin thunar
[20:32] <subspider> you want to mount
[20:33] <KushVapors> yea
[20:34] <subspider> ok
[20:34] <subspider> i think it's no dificult
[20:34] <subspider> if you use some of these comands
[20:34] <subspider> http://www.myhtcphone.com/node/18
[20:35] <subspider> and you need to know the list of disck on your system
[20:35] <subspider> there for it's easy i think
[20:35] <Tonno> Sysi, i removed AWN :( i cannot put it on the top of the screen :(
[20:35] <subspider> but i don't know if windwos mobile blocks something
[20:36] <Sysi> Tonno: do you know, this is so weird
[20:36] <Sysi> i also just test it
[20:36] <Sysi> and thought if i can put it on top
[20:36] <subspider> have to go sorry i can't help more
[20:37] <Tonno> u did it? :S
[20:37] <KushVapors> k thnx subspider
[20:38]  * Tonno dont know to much english, sorry i made wierd question.
[20:38] <Sysi> Tonno: no, just thought if it's possible
[20:38] <Sysi> i tell thing weirdly very propably :P
[20:39] <Tonno> Sysi, well i start searching on google, i didnt see anyway that make awn on top of the screen, the only thing that i saw is that i can put awn on the right and left of the screen, but not vertical.
[20:40] <Tonno> Sysi, i saw it in a launchpad.
[20:41] <Tonno> Sysi, once of the members of awn say that they are working on it. let see for the next version.
[21:00] <Person[a]> good evening
[21:15] <phatty> hello is this place for assistance with xubuntu?
[21:15] <knome> phatty, yes
[21:15] <phatty> thank you.
[21:15] <Person[a]> hi charlie-tca, I've added some information
[21:15] <Person[a]> to the shutdown bug
[21:15] <charlie-tca> Thanks, Person[a]
[21:16] <charlie-tca> That's greatly appreciately again.
[21:16] <phatty> I just upgraded to xubuntu 9.10 from previous version and the wireless fails to connect to my wireless router. any suggestions? used to work before upgrade
[21:16] <phatty> I can still "see" the networks, just can't connect even with security off
[21:16] <Person[a]> you are very wellcome
[21:17] <phatty> but it's fine with the wired connection
[21:19] <phatty> any ideas?
[21:20] <charlie-tca> phatty: what is the wireless card?
[21:20] <phatty> it's a USB linksys network adapter (wireless)
[21:21] <charlie-tca> Try it in a different USB port
[21:21] <phatty> is it ok to try it while I'm connected on hardwire?
[21:21] <phatty> meaning will I still be in here.
[21:22] <charlie-tca> It will not allow both a wired and a wireless connection at the same time.
[21:22] <phatty> ok, brb
[21:22] <charlie-tca> Sorry
[21:22] <phatty> it's cool.
[21:22] <phatty> I'm going to come in her ewith a dif computer
[21:23] <phatty> and then try with laptop all the ideas
[21:23] <charlie-tca> Okay,
[21:23] <phatty> should've though of that first.
[21:23] <Phatsac> this is phatty on dif pc
[21:27] <Phatsac> I"m thinking there may be something wrong with the driver because the connection % is waaaay lower than it used to be
[21:28] <Phatsac> and I'm right next to the wireless router right now. Usually about 50 feet away
[21:28] <charlie-tca> but connected?
[21:28] <Phatsac> make that about 30ft
[21:28] <Phatsac> it's not showing a % anymore but there's only one green bar out of al of them green
[21:28] <Phatsac> and will not connect in any of the 4 usb ports I have
[21:29] <charlie-tca> Which connection is poor, then?
[21:29] <Phatsac> now will not connect online at all.
[21:30] <Phatsac> But from the window where I can see what wireless networks are available, the graphical representation of connectivity strength appears lower than it used to prior to this upgrade.
[21:37] <Phatsac> any ideas?
[21:38] <charlie-tca> I don't really know. I am not good on wireless.
[21:38] <Phatsac> neither am I.
[21:38] <Phatsac> lol
[21:39] <Phatsac> wireless frustrates the crap out of me.
[21:39] <Phatsac> I'm much more familiar with windows.
[21:39] <Phatsac> anything like "drivers" on ubuntu
[21:40] <charlie-tca> You can try asking in #ubuntu or ##beginners-help
[21:40] <Phatsac> now that I think of it... I remember my g/f trying to connect a webcam to this computer
[21:40] <charlie-tca> They have more users
[21:40] <Phatsac> maybe conflicting.
[21:40] <Phatsac> ok, thanks.
[21:48] <Phatty> charlie..
[21:48] <Phatty> are there "drivers" in xubuntu like windows?
[21:49] <charlie-tca> for some stuff, yes. For most items, the drivers are built in.
[21:49] <charlie-tca> The wireless drivers are mostly built into the kernel in Xubuntu
[21:50] <Phatty> that means it's with the OS right?
[21:50] <charlie-tca> They are integrated into the core, because it works better that way.
[21:50] <charlie-tca> right
[21:50] <Phatty> ok, understood
[21:50] <Phatty> I'll fiddle with it some more.
[21:50] <Phatty> I'm not sure if my g/f did something trying to get a webcam to work also.
[21:50] <Phatty> But I think this happened after the upgrade.
[21:51] <charlie-tca> Hard to say
[21:53] <Phatty> about ready to throw this POS out the window
[21:53] <Phatty> but I dont like my g/f using my computer
[21:53] <Phatty> this is for her to screw up. lol
[21:54] <charlie-tca> Just repost the question every 3-4 hours and see if someone else can help out.
[21:55] <Phatty> the laptop might be on the lawn by then. lol
[21:55] <Phatty> thanks though.
[21:56] <charlie-tca> Wish I could be help.
[21:56] <Phatty> just that you're nice enough to try is helpful
[21:56] <Phatty> much appreciated.
[21:57] <charlie-tca> No problem. That is what most of us are here for.
[22:01] <slow-motion> hi
[22:32] <Vyacheslav> Hey.
[22:32] <Vyacheslav> I got Windows 98 on a 60GB HD
[22:32] <Vyacheslav> and right now, I'm installing Xubuntu on a 20GB slave
[22:32] <Vyacheslav> 1GHz 512mb RAM
[22:32] <Vyacheslav> How will Xubuntu run?
[23:32] <MD-11> hi i am new with linux. I installed ubuntu server , and then xfce.... now i am having a hell trouble to set up my screen resolution...i followed several steps on how to configure the xorg.conf file but i didnt suceeded! I am getting the fonts completely small, and the resolution which is 1366x768 is not correct displayed
[23:32] <MD-11> any help?
[23:33] <knome> MD-11, install xubuntu-desktop package would be my first adice
[23:33] <knome> *advice
[23:33] <MD-11> yeah i did it already
[23:33] <MD-11> i have the xubuntu-desktop
[23:35] <knome> MD-11, right. you can set font size from applications -> settings -> appearance -> tab fonts
[23:35] <MD-11> thanks knome...and what about the screen resolution?
[23:36] <knome> MD-11, that should be probed automatically, but you could look at applications -> settings -> display. you might also need a propietary driver to enable the highest possible resolution, which you can enable from applications -> system -> hardware driverd
[23:37] <MD-11> ill give a try knome...the server is at my living room....i come back here if i suceed or not! THANKS
[23:37] <knome> MD-11, np
[23:41] <MD-11> hey knome...the fonts are so small that i cannot even read it!!! That started after changing xorg.conf...
[23:41] <knome> MD-11, maybe you should remove whatever you changed in xorg.conf
[23:42] <MD-11> i'll give a try, and ill set to 800x600 to see the results
[23:46] <MD-11> knome do i have to restart the comp after changing xorg.conf?
[23:46] <knome> MD-11, you need to restart X, but booting would be a good way to do that
[23:47] <MD-11> i did it, but how can i restart just X?!
[23:53] <MD-11> knome, no way to make that change, what would be an ultimate solution...reinstalling xubuntu-desktop?!
[23:54] <knome> MD-11, no, i don't think that would help
[23:54] <knome> MD-11, are you sure the xorg.conf is as it was before you fiddled with it?
[23:54] <MD-11> do you have a default xorg.conf? that comes with the original?
[23:55] <knome> no, i'm afraid i don't. also, the xorg.conf is a bit differente depending on the hardware configuration
[23:55] <MD-11> no i cant be 100% sure because i barely can read what is there! however i did a blind change, just erasing and typing again
[23:56] <MD-11> anyway i cant find the font size that you told me
[23:56] <MD-11> i went to application -> settings -> manager
[23:56] <MD-11> and there i tried both desktop and display
[23:56] <MD-11> and didnt find anything