[01:19] <sbalneav> Evening all
[01:59] <Ahmuck_> ogra
[02:11] <sbalneav> He's probably off for the weekend.
[02:12] <Ahmuck_> k, nm, i think i found what i needed
[02:12] <Ahmuck_> good thing he's getting a weekend off.
[02:13] <Ahmuck_> my weekend is filled with cattle
[02:13] <Ahmuck_> :)
[02:15] <sbalneav> My dinner was filled with cattle
[02:36] <Ahmuck_> heh
[02:37] <Ahmuck_> a good meal is ... provided your not a vege, grilled onion, zuccini, beef, chop, hollow out a long bun, and place inside with some spices, cheese on top, and put a topper on it. :)
[02:45] <Ahmuck_> 9.10 is a lts release?
[02:50] <sbalneav> No
[02:50] <sbalneav> regular release
[02:51] <sbalneav> 10.04 will be LTS
[02:51] <sbalneav> That's why we REALLY need to work on the spit-n-polish for this time around.
[02:51] <Ahmuck_> 9.10 was a regular release for all of ubuntu?
[02:52] <Ahmuck_> i'm impressed with 9.10
[02:52] <Ahmuck_> any chance of getting anki packaged for ubuntu?
[02:53] <sbalneav> Sure.  Go ahead and package it :)
[02:54] <sbalneav> I'm meeting up with LaserJock this weekend to learn packaging.
[03:33] <papajones> Hello, I think I have installed Edubuntu but am a little confused.  I keep seeing it referred to as a "desktop", but other than a few new programs appearing in my Applicatoins menu, I'm not sure i've installed this correctly...
[03:33] <papajones> Still seems just like a regular ubuntu desktop
[03:34] <HedgeMage> papajones: All that edubuntu is is a bunch of apps and art for educational uses. :)
[03:34] <papajones> I also see mention of different themes on this page http://www.edubuntu.org/Screenshots - but I don't see thse anywhere to choose from
[03:34] <papajones> where is the art installed/
[03:35] <papajones> ?
[03:35] <HedgeMage> hmmm... I think in Gnome you right-click the background (desktop) then choose "change image" or something like that, and theme should be a tab.
[03:36] <HedgeMage> (I use Xfce lately, so I'm not 100% sure where things are in Gnome)
[03:36] <papajones> I tried that, but I only see the same old stuff that came with Ubuntu
[03:38] <HedgeMage> Hmmm.
[03:39] <papajones> Well, the apps I've looked at seem nice, I had just thought there would be some main launcher or "desktop" to bring them all together
[03:39] <HedgeMage> papajones: If you hang around a bit, someone who actually uses Gnome will show up eventually.
[03:39] <Ahmuck_> papajones, you can create one
[03:39] <Ahmuck_> a application launch bar
[03:40] <Ahmuck_> in regards to art, what are you looking for?
[03:41] <sbalneav> papajones: Edubuntu = Ubuntu + Educational apps + LTSP thin clients all in one big package.
[03:41] <papajones> I will look into creating an applicatoin launch bar
[03:41] <sbalneav> It won't look much different.
[03:41] <papajones> Ah, OK. This page here http://www.edubuntu.org/FAQ keeps referring to Edubuntu as an O.S.
[03:41] <sbalneav> it is
[03:41] <papajones> hence my confusoin, as nothing seems to have changed (other than the apps)
[03:42] <sbalneav> It is an os.  One based on Ubuntu.
[03:42] <sbalneav> it's no different from Kubuntu, or Xubuntu
[03:42] <Ahmuck_> sbalneav: sorta.  qimo does this
[03:43] <papajones> Ahmuck_, not looking for any art in particular, other than to confirm it got installed. I can't the backgrounds that are shown on tihs page http://www.edubuntu.org/Screenshots
[03:43] <Ahmuck_> http://www.qimo4kids.com/Images/Screenshots/WhatIsQimo.jpg - papajones i think that bar at the bottom is what your looking for
[03:44] <sbalneav> papajones: Those are older screenshots.  They should be replaced.
[03:44] <sbalneav> But we don't have anyone to mind for the web site right at the moment.
[03:46] <papajones> One last thing that was confusing, was in the Ubuntu Software Center, when I was looking to install it, the description says "This package depends on the complete set of Edubuntu-supported packages..." -- thus, not sure if there were other dependencies I needed to install beforehand...
[03:47] <sbalneav> No, you can always just install software, the packaging will take care of any dependancies you need.
[03:49] <papajones> You have all been a great help, thank you!
[03:49] <Ahmuck_> nobody to mind the website?
[03:51] <papajones> The qimo4kids looks interesting.... But not a part of edubuntu, no?
[03:52] <Ahmuck_> no
[03:52] <Ahmuck_> edubuntu, qimo, is a themed ubuntu install with a set of pre-selected applications
[03:53] <Ahmuck_> more recently, (have not tried 9.10 yet) edubuntu may also come with some ltsp server and management utilities
[03:55] <papajones> i do see mention of that on the site, not anything I'm going to be interested in at the moment
[03:56] <papajones> I was looking to just get something point-n-clickable for my kids
[03:58] <Ahmuck_> add a bar at the bottom of the screen.  i've tested this type of installation, and it works far better than an application menu.  kids are drawn to it
[03:58] <Ahmuck_> add your apps that you want them to use, and you'll have a great time :)
[03:59] <papajones> still getting used to GNOME, will be looking into that shortly, thank you!
[04:01] <sbalneav> Ahmuck_: No, we need a website maintainer.
[04:01] <papajones> Ahmuck_,  do you mean a "Lanucher" ?
[04:01] <papajones> Launcher i mean
[04:03] <Ahmuck_> sbalneav: i won't volunteer for the job, but i might be interested in looking into it
[04:03] <Ahmuck_> papajones: want step by step instructions?
[04:04] <Ahmuck_> right click an empty area on the menu bar
[04:04] <Ahmuck_> select "new panel
[04:05] <papajones> ah i see
[04:05] <papajones> then orient it
[04:06] <Ahmuck_> correct
[04:06] <Ahmuck_> then add to panel
[04:06] <Ahmuck_> application launcher
[04:06] <sbalneav> I beleive the website's a drupal instance.
[04:06] <Ahmuck_> select your apps
[04:07] <Ahmuck_> then you can customize the new panel so that it only fits the lenght of the icons on it
[04:07] <Ahmuck_>  as well as increase the hieght
[04:07] <papajones> Looking good!
[04:07] <Ahmuck_> sbalneav: well, i've been meaning to get down into the dirt of drupal, so i guess this is just yet another reason
[04:08] <papajones> I think this looks like it will fit the bill, Ahmuck_
[04:08] <Ahmuck_> :)
[04:09] <papajones> It will be another matter to perhaps just set this up once under my login, then copy the same panel to my kids' logins?
[04:10] <papajones> i think i've alreday got that figured out now too
[04:13] <sbalneav> Well, I've got packaging class tomorrow
[04:13] <sbalneav> see you all
[04:27] <papajones> i'm gonna head out too for the night; thanks again for the help getting started!
[04:30] <Ahmuck_> np
[04:31] <Ahmuck_> nn for me as well
[16:02] <calimer> Hi, I'm from Platinum Arts Sandbox free 3d Game maker, and I just wanted to mention that I set up a channel on freenode #sandbox if there are any questions or anything I can help with for SB going into edubuntu
[16:49] <jbicha> calimer: I don't think the license used by Platinum Arts Sandbox is compatible with Debian/Ubuntu
[17:02] <calimer> I would hope the debian free one is
[17:03] <jbicha> calimer: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-legal@lists.debian.org/msg40350.html
[17:05] <calimer> that's obviously not the debian free version
[17:12] <jbicha> once sandbox is in Debian, it should be easy to get it in the Ubuntu repositories
[23:27] <LaserJock> sbalneav: around?