[00:00] i went from 9.04 to BT4 then back to karmic === Paraselene__ is now known as Paraselene_ [00:26] how come my kernel is 2.6.28-11 and that kernel isn't on the kernel.org website? [00:27] nvm [00:28] nope, its not there [00:28] and the source isn't in the repos [00:29] 2.6.28 is on kernel.org [00:30] 2.6.28-11 was in Jaunty [00:30] !info linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic jaunty [00:30] linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic (source: linux): Linux kernel image for version 2.6.28 on x86/x86_64. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.28-11.42 (jaunty), package size 24012 kB, installed size 93424 kB [00:31] ive upgraded to karmic koala [00:33] then make sure you have linux-generic installed to get the latest kernels [00:34] it is installed [00:34] i need the source [00:34] !source [00:34] You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html [00:34] !kernel [00:34] The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages [00:34] see those links [00:34] linux-source`uname -r` [00:34] rigth? [00:34] why do you need the source anyway? [00:35] to compile alsa [00:35] you need the headers, not the source [00:35] hmmm [00:35] linux-headers-$(uname -r) [00:35] k [00:35] you only need the source to compile a kernel [00:35] E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.28-11-generic [00:36] that's because it's a jaunty package, you should boot into the latest kernel [00:36] 2.6.31-14 [00:36] ill check my grub file [00:37] "ls /boot/vmlinuz-*" should show /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic, and grub should pick that up [00:40] [00:40] g [00:40] g [00:40] kiuy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [00:40] i just partitioned second drive and i cant put anything in it says dont have permission [00:45] Help! My mouse and keyboard stopped working on my Kubuntu desktop! I can still connect with ssh, Can someone walk me through troubleshooting? [00:55] Hello,i would like to know how I would be able to make windows appear on the center of the screen when I open them.Thanks [00:56] if you have Compiz, the window rules can do that [00:56] in ccsm [00:57] Daverag, i got kwin [00:59] hi, I have upgraded from kubuntu 9.04 to 9.10, before upgrade had gnome as second desktop. its gone now and i can't download from repo because of unmet dependancies...looks like its meta info is wrong...anyone know away around it...another repo (perhaps) [01:01] message reads: gnome-desktop-environment: Depends: fast-user-switch-applet (>= 2.22.0) but it is not installable [01:01] Recommends: fam but it is not going to be installed [01:02] gnome: Depends: gnome-desktop-environment (= 1:2.22.2~4ubuntu8) but it is not going to be installed [01:02] Depends: gnome-vfs-obexftp but it is not installable [01:02] E: Broken packages [01:04] !pastebin | purct [01:04] purct: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic [01:04] hi,how to change the fonts in my kubuntu-9.10,chinase-style [01:08] sorry ... === petr_ is now known as Guest76768 [01:11] hello guys, who are you? and where do you are? in which country??? [01:11] India? [01:11] OMG IM STILL WEARING PANTS! [01:11] and i mowed the lawnes === Guest76768 is now known as Moscow_dance [01:12] how do I get the small transparent desktop to come back after I click the "X" and it disappears from the desktop? [01:15] oh i dont think i even ever tried to get them back on the desktop... [01:15] aaa [01:15] you ignore me === Moscow_dance is now known as Moscow_sindysho [01:16] i_is_broke: yes in the past I got rid of it [01:16] me too...lol [01:16] me too [01:17] Moscow_sindysho, you need something? [01:17] froglet- you mean the Folder View that's on the desktop by default? [01:17] I neet talk with something [01:17] Dragnslcr, yes that's the one [01:17] I want not sleep [01:17] You can just add another Folder View widget [01:17] Dragnslcr, ty [01:18] Help! My mouse and keyboard stopped working on my Kubuntu desktop! I can still connect with ssh, Can someone walk me through troubleshooting? [01:18] Kirilos: I only did it with Compiz sorry [01:22] Hello,i would like to know how I would be able to make windows appear on the center of the screen when I open them.I use Kwin as my Window Manager.Thanks [01:23] Dragnslcr: that is not exactly what I meant but I like it even better than what I was trying to do [01:23] froglet- heh, that works [01:23] You can try some of the other widgets, too. The default one might be a Quickview [01:23] I tried that too [01:24] I mean the one that was on the desktop when I started KDE for the first time [01:24] but this is better [01:24] listen to my history.... I had done my project in University...(week ago) it was Checkers game. And it work on my Kubuntu fine! But when I go to the University and run them! it compiled fine and did not show any warnings. I was starting program one program two and starting network game between two players.............. and the game foult in 10 step! in other starting it fault in 4 step! and no warnings in [01:24] compilation process! May be librares in University is old? I use GTK+ 2.0 [01:24] i dont have permission to put files in second hard drive what am i doing wrong [01:26] Hello,i would like to know how I would be able to make windows appear on the center of the screen when I open them.I use Kwin as my Window Manager.Thanks [01:26] Moscow_sindysho- you'd be better off asking in a programming channel [01:26] how do i unlock permissions??? [01:26] but where is some channel ))) in IRC [01:27] or you offer me ask it in any programming forum === froglet is now known as froglet_ === acer_ is now known as Security [01:29] i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/312015/ how should i know which gpg key to import?Thanks === Security is now known as Guest49938 === Guest49938 is now known as SECURlTY [01:34] I got a "Notification and Jobs" icon in the system tray, presently grayed out. Where's a text log of the notifications? When the desktop load's I sometimes get a notification popup that fades away to quickly to read. Problem with the audio system. [01:35] OK guys One student offer me one way to solve my PROBLEM!!!! He saw me: MAN! you can starting your computer at home and go to University!!! and start your game-chackers through SSH ! what I showud to do to use SSH? I have real IP If I will start my Kubuntu and go in University I can comin through SSH??? Should I prerare shomething??? [01:38] get a cup of coffe Moscow_sindysho [01:38] ?? [01:39] nvm [01:39] I had sleep 10 hours and I can do it more [01:39] where are you ? [01:40] after 4 hours I go to University and my computer will run!!! and I try to comein through ssh [01:40] ))) at home [01:41] tomorrow is saturday man no school [01:41] no no My shedule is from tustday to saturnday [01:41] SECURlTY: thank god your here [01:42] SECURlTY: I want Moscow_sindysho arrested and remove from the building [01:42] ? [01:42] why? what a hall [01:42] try to ask him politly he may do that [01:42] lol [01:43] lol [01:43] ssh ssh we love ssh [01:44] where are you ??? SECURITY man [01:44] SECURlTY: thank god you are here, I feel so secure now [01:44] may i ask a dump question ? [01:44] dump question? [01:44] now is 4:44 am [01:44] im in florence italy [01:44] ))) [01:44] OMG )) [01:45] you are happy man [01:45] Kage_Jittai: whats your asl [01:45] w [01:45] was a good night [01:45] 21/M/USA [01:45] i had nice conversation with an usa girl [01:45] if you want to play in my checkers you can do it [01:46] waiting in a row to get at the bath [01:46] lol [01:46] i had nice conversation with my hand [01:46] lol [01:46] I am programmer because [01:46] !ot [01:46] #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [01:47] grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr [01:47] Dragnslcr, agreed [01:47] with what [01:48] huh [01:48] is bad [01:48] please keep the convo to topic.. [01:49] Dragnslcr: I need emotional support to be able to use kubuntu, so its all related [01:49] In Moscow is showing [01:49] snowing )) [01:50] ok [01:50] i need to find out how to make work moonlight so i can see a live streaming tv [01:50] Greetings [01:50] need help w/ ath5k wireless [01:50] Gargoyle76, salute [01:50] salute [01:51] tt bene ? [01:51] disconnecting very quickly after connecting first time..then can't reconnect until reboot [01:51] try the driver [01:51] Gargoyle76, might help if we knew a little more, like what kernel, jaunty, karmic? [01:51] oh...sorry === dharman is now known as dharman_away [01:52] * dharman_away is away: Gone away for now [01:52] Karmic, driver=ath5k, Atheros built in card, 2.6.31-14 kernel i think [01:53] worked fine in jaunty [01:53] upped to karmic and kaput [01:53] Gargoyle76, if you type in term uname -a it will tell you some of it..and what does dmesg say? [01:53] ^_^ [01:54] kernel's correct [01:55] hold one on dmesg...do you want the fail part? [01:55] ok what does dmesg | tail say? [01:55] yeah...its probably the same thing that everyone else is having issues with... [01:56] what's the thing to config KDE look , kcenter, kcontrol, kconfig..what? [01:56] um kwin? [01:56] [ 576.349939] ath0: deauthenticating from 00:14:bf:00:d1:ea by local choice (reason=3) [01:56] [ 576.350194] ath0: direct probe to AP 00:14:bf:00:d1:ea (try 1) [01:56] [ 576.354304] ath0: deauthenticating from 00:14:bf:00:d1:ea by local choice (reason=3) [01:57] [ 576.355048] ath0: direct probe responded [01:57] [ 576.355053] ath0: authenticate with AP 00:14:bf:00:d1:ea (try 1) [01:57] Gargoyle76: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [01:57] [ 576.368260] ath0: authenticated [01:57] lol should of used pastebin.com [01:57] good buy [01:57] sorry should of told you that. [01:58] s'okay [01:58] I go to sleep again [01:58] it's like it shuts down the wireless card/driver... [01:59] b/c after it fails it can't even see the other networks I can usually see [02:02] i_is_broke> still there? [02:03] Gargoyle76, yeah im looking at the issues everyone else is having with it on the forums to see if there is a fix for it yet. [02:04] i_is_broke> oh!...sry...thanks for that [02:04] http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8245497 take a look at this. [02:04] k...brb [02:05] $ ssh localhost [02:05] ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused === cuneyt is now known as Acemiyim [02:07] $ ssh 90.155.218.137 [02:07] ssh: connect to host 90.155.218.137 port 22: Connection refused [02:07] ??? [02:08] mans write query to connect through ssh! [02:08] I want to connect with ssh to my PC [02:09] Moscow_sindysho, try ebox for help.. [02:09] should I starting SSHlistener on my PC? [02:11] ebox ebox-mail ebox-samba [02:11] ebox-ca ebox-network ebox-services [02:11] ebox-dhcp ebox-ntp ebox-squid [02:11] ebox-dns ebox-objects ebox-usersandgroups [02:11] ebox-firewall ebox-openvpn [02:11] ebox-jabber ebox-printers [02:11] Moscow_sindysho: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:12] [02:12] Windows over the network to the machine \ \ Computer Name as you enter. So how do I open it in ubuntu. [02:12] I'm little speak engilish :( sorry [02:14] Acemiyim: try smb://hostname/ [02:16] thanks pete_^ [02:16] hi [02:16] i am having a strange problem with dolphin + smbmount [02:16] Acemiyim: if you want to browse shares just type smb:/ [02:16] Acemiyim: browse for hosts* [02:17] when i mount my directories using smbmount to local dir and create new files on the server they dont show up in dolphin . A refresh is required to see them [02:17] they come up in the terminal ( ls ) [02:19] smb:// is another option i can use [02:19] ok, Well, this command where necessary to write [02:19] smb:// [02:25] ok smb:// also has the same problem [02:26] I create a file on the server but it does not show up in dolphin unless either i manually refresh (f5) or restart dolphin [02:27] ok thanks [02:29] syedam: Error stating file '/home/cuneyt/dolphin': No such file or directory [02:29] alt+f2 [02:29] dolphine [02:29] don't run [02:30] can I open SSH listener on my PC with standart Kubuntu environmetnt-equipment ??? [02:30] without eBox and other big universal programs [02:31] Acemiyim: hey I came in the middle , can you explain you problem to me === starcraft is now known as starcraftman [02:35] !info openssh-server | Moscow_sindysho [02:35] Moscow_sindysho: openssh-server (source: openssh): secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:5.1p1-6ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 278 kB, installed size 748 kB [02:37] ok $ sudo apt-get install openssh-server [02:38] 2378kБ [02:40] is it just me or are the ubuntu software really lame when compared to windows [02:41] just you [02:45] rasstar зкщмщсфешщт [02:45] апеопрорп [02:46] : just you [02:50] I just installed Opera in 9.10 and it's really running well. Has anybody had problems with it? === [newbie] is now known as RussellAlan [02:52] petr@ubuntu:~/Рабочий стол/project_checkers$ ./main [02:52] (main:6809): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: [02:52] under ssh this program does not start [02:52] rerushg_, thats the only browser i use. [02:52] Moscow_sindysho: is that over SSH? [02:53] yes [02:53] Moscow_sindysho: you need to use "ssh -Y user@host", to enable X11 forwarding [02:54] tsimpson: FF seems a bit bloated and "mushy" so I thought I'd give it a try. So far a pleasant surprize... very clean and crisp. [02:54] yeah, I use opera when FF crashes ;) [02:55] !!! yes it work [02:55] Sorry, I don't know anything about yes it work [02:55] rerushg_, i got use to it caue the computer i was using had little memory in it, and firefox takes alot of it. [02:56] although i would much rather use firefox then ie thats for sure.. [02:57] i_is_broke: sorry for that last post.... got your handle wrong... :)....... no chance I'd run IE .... been there, got the scars, done..... [03:12] hello all how is everyone? === lauro is now known as laurosa === zach is now known as Guest88139 === Guest88139 is now known as Akston [03:57] hi i am paranoid [03:57] but can the government spy on me if I use Kbuntu [03:57] zaarin_: only if you connect to the Internet [03:57] They must have invented ways of hacking into linux machines by now [03:57] Can't they hack your wifi now? [03:57] Even if its "switched off"? [03:58] im new to linux and im tyring to ping google this is taking forever how many time does linux pings a isp when you run ping command [03:58] to infinity and beyond ubuntu [03:58] ubuntu: until you hit control-c [03:58] you have to type a number at the end as a parameter [03:59] lol thanks [04:00] it would have went on forever thanks guys [04:00] i think im getting dos attacked tho [04:00] netstat [04:00] what will that say, i dont think its getting past my router tho [04:00] if your getting dos attacked you have serious issues..lol..cause there isnt dos in linux [04:00] i_is_broke: your a moron [04:01] DoS = Denial of Service [04:01] not dos [04:01] denial of service [04:01] Kage_Jittai, old school dos means dummy op system [04:01] thank you [04:01] where do one change wallpaper in systemsettings??? [04:02] and i have forgotten more then you will ever know peeon [04:02] i_is_broke: actually i think you mean "Disk Operating System: [04:02] i_is_broke: actually i think you mean "Disk Operating System" [04:02] no its dummy op system google it. [04:02] means you go ping ping ping ping ping, ddos is where EVERYONE goes ping ping ping ping ping and the routers cant hear a damn thing so the internet traffic doesnt budge [04:02] owned by microsoft [04:02] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOS [04:03] i_is_broke: any idea where one change wallpaper in systemsettings? [04:03] 10 packets transmitted, 4 received, 60% packet loss, time 27126ms [04:03] K350: you can change it by right clicking the desktop [04:03] man this sucks [04:03] is the only way to make it stop is to wait it out? [04:03] K350, what desktop are you running, you should be able to left click on it and change it. [04:03] 60% packet loss [04:03] Kage_Jittai: Aaaaah, thanks a lot!:-) [04:04] oops sorry left handed [04:05] i_is_broke: I bet you think the 7-layer model refers to a toco too [04:05] taco* [04:05] Kage_Jittai, please keep to topic thank you [04:05] i_is_broke: please don't make dumb comments [04:05] thank you [04:06] ok you can drop it now [04:11] Hi, All! Need help for a printer connect! [04:11] Привет всем. [04:11] printer type? [04:12] HP lj 1020. I connect to PC, "hp-setup" from root - its done, [04:13] Hoksmur: HP has good Linux support [04:13] CUPS on http://localhost:631/jobs/ present, but no printing [04:14] IMHO, problem into cups [04:15] I can sent any prin immediate to /dev/*? [04:15] *print === complexity is now known as bubba_goldstein [04:16] Kage_Jittai: Any can help this testing? [04:19] :( === Fred_ is now known as Guest38438 === Guest38438 is now known as Zeugma [04:19] is cups detected? [04:19] hello? [04:20] Yes. ps -A| grep cups ID present [04:20] does n e 1 know a/s/l? [04:20] also http://localhost:631/jobs/ i can view [04:20] so is anyone available to help me with a problem with GRUB? when I install Kubuntu 9.10 without internet, GRUB won't install correctly. [04:21] zaarin_: i dont now... [04:21] 25 m uk [04:22] zaarin_: i not god english. Native - russian. [04:22] Drastvutyre, menyezavoot Alistair. Kagh Delah? [04:22] Ya Govoro choot choot po Ruski [04:23] zaarin_: тест test Здравствуйте. [04:23] zaarin_: go to private for no flood here? [04:25] zaarin_: Da, ya ponimayu. ^) [04:25] Yes. i can you words. :) [04:27] Printer is setup correct, cups page info: Printer Driver: HP LaserJet 1020 hpijs, 3.9.2 [04:27] Printer State: idle, accepting jobs, published [04:27] Device URI: hp:/usb/HP_LaserJet_1020?serial=FN0BZHW [04:28] what happens when u test print? [04:30] No. test paje not print. [04:30] page [04:30] ломаный === jepong2 is now known as jepong [04:31] устройство ломаный [04:32] Yes, i read [04:33] No, not flawed - connect to notebook my ..(forget, as maryage) with winVista, ear print sucessful. [04:34] постскриптум водитель использование [04:34] i now testing this... [04:35] notebook of wife [04:40] Yes.. i disconnet cable from PS and connect to notebook, test page is ok! [04:45] Here not help me.. :( [04:45] hey all, i've been trying to do something for hours now.. and can't get it... [04:45] trying to get KOREAN to work on ubuntu [04:45] before i updated to 9.10 it worked fine [04:45] but now... NO! [04:46] i got to keyboard layout and choose korean... on the layout... i see english and then below it on the same key .. i see the same letter also in english .. when it should be in KOREAN [04:47] sue: trouble layout korean? [04:48] yes [04:50] view switch key, please - same as, what you use? [04:52] ,i dont understand [04:53] sue: may be menu-system-system parameters [04:53] chek keys for switch layout. [04:54] Hello, i just now intalled kubunto and the default kernel is 2.6.31. I'm not very experienced. I need kernel 2.8.31 to run my sound card. Can someone post a link to a page that would give me info on how to update my kernel? [04:54] kubuntu 9.10 [04:54] im localise russian, i dont cnow as this in english system. Into menu-system-system parameters [04:56] sue: you can this? === ben is now known as ZooK [05:05] Yes!!! Its working!! by, all! [05:05] bye [05:18] hello [05:19] kgeek! [05:21] I used to have this program that was on the top, and whenever I pressed F12, it would bring up the terminal [05:21] does anyone know what it was? [05:22] yakuza, yakuke or something like that [05:28] yakuake [05:28] thanks! [05:28] np [05:30] why does kubuntu freezes randomly? Like I only have terminal up and it still freezes, nothing works, only the mouse moves and clicking doesn't work. Can anyone help? [05:32] I am having trouble getting my buttons on my mouse to work.... i just did a clean install to Kubuntu 9.10... I was using 9.04 and had the tilt buttons working great for back and forward... but now they do not seem to be working... i have xvkbd and xbindkeys installed and I configures my .xbindkeysrc file and added "xbindkeys" to autostart in KDE as a script.. but it still is not working [05:40] hi [05:47] hello hunter === cmdrfox is now known as matze === matze is now known as cmdrfox [06:22] hi all. I have added a line to my /etc/hosts file like "208.117.236.70 youtube.com" but i doesn't take effect. Should i restart something? [06:23] ? [06:23] ugur: what are you trying to accomplish/fix? [06:24] youtube is restricted in my country. When i type that ip i can reach youtube but when i type the name i cannot [06:24] dns issue [06:25] ugur: changes in the host file should not need a computer or network restart. THey should take effect immediately [06:26] yes that was what i knew also but it doesnt work any idea? [06:27] try xx.xx.xx.xx www.youtube.com instead of just youtube.com? [06:27] * dthacker goes to sleep [06:28] still the same [06:30] restart your browser, it probably caches the DNS results [06:41] tsimpson: thanks you are right it worked [06:43] tsimpson:i had tried it with youtube.com but it should have been www.youtube.com instead [06:44] you can add both probably [06:45] thanks === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor === vahik is now known as KubuntuHelp [07:20] hello [07:21] can someone please help me ? [07:24] anyone here able to help me with kubuntu? [07:24] KubuntuHelp: just describe your problem and maybe someone will help you [07:25] I installed the latest version of Kubuntu....and My wireless does not work on my laptop [07:25] how do i get it to work? [07:27] anyone? [07:34] KubuntuHelp: what kind of wifi card is it [07:34] KubuntuHelp: Good job! [07:35] anyone able to point me in the right direction to a site on routing. i have been looking on google but im not able to find anything decent [07:36] eagles0513875: Do you have a specific question about routing, or just want to learn more about it? [07:36] FireCrotch: learn more about it im in the process of setting up a virtual machine to be a dns cache for me [07:38] eagles0513875: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk365/tsd_technology_support_protocol_home.html [07:38] FireCrotch: do you have anything specific to the linux routing commands [07:38] or ubuntu ones [07:40] eagles0513875: You'll mostly probably use iptables: http://iptables.rlworkman.net/iptables-tutorial.html [07:40] humm ok [07:41] which is more or a firewall than a "router" [07:41] *more of [07:41] another random question do you think its pointless to setup ufw in a vm and route traffic through it then out to my gateway [07:42] it's more than likely possible, but not easy [07:42] you'd have to mess with routing tables and other things no one really wants to deal with [07:42] eagles0513875: Well, you *may* have issues with that, considering how VMs do their networking, but it would be possible [07:43] eagles0513875: it would certainly be a good exercise to learn about networking (both in Linux and in general) but mostly pointless to actual use for anything [07:44] ok then ill have to set it up on me old laptop [07:44] right nwo its only using shoutcast [07:44] it's quite easy to setup a router, just google for "debian router" [07:45] I had an old desktop act as my LAN firewall, router and wireless router before I actually went out and got a "real" one ;) [07:46] tsimpson: :) [07:46] trying to figure out routing tables on ubuntu [07:47] it's the same for all linux variants, because no one wants to touch it [07:47] it's actually part of the kernel, which shows how insane it is [07:48] Its not that no one wants to touch it or that its insane... it works, and it works well, so no one has to come up with something better [07:49] no one wants to write a GUI for it though ;) [07:50] tsimpson: there are plenty of GUI frontends for iptables, really. [07:50] FireCrotch: not iptables, routing tables [07:51] the stuff you see from "route -n" [07:51] Blah, brainfart [07:51] iptables vs kernel IP routing tables [07:52] easily confused [07:52] especially at 2am [08:00] hehe sry for confusing you guys this morning FireCrotch and tsimpson [08:00] !upgrade [08:00] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - To upgrade to Jaunty (9.04) directly from Hardy (8.04) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [08:01] tsimpson: O_o ^ should that be to karmic or not === root is now known as Guest58622 [08:03] !no upgrade-#kubuntu is For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - To upgrade to Karmic (9.10) directly from Hardy (8.04) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [08:03] I'll remember that tsimpson [08:04] * tsimpson waits for the day Hardy dies off === administrator is now known as Guest90513 [08:07] good morning [08:08] good morning [08:09] is it possible to upgrade a kubuntu machine over konsole/ssh? [08:09] morning [08:09] upgrade to 9.10 [08:09] !upgrade [08:09] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - To upgrade to Karmic (9.10) directly from Hardy (8.04) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [08:10] noaXess: should be able to get it going over ssh i dont see why not then once its finished all you would need to do is give it a reboot and then you should be on karmic [08:10] eagles0513875: ok.. [08:10] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Ubuntu%20Servers%20%28Recommended%29 [08:11] just remember that sshd will probably be killed off during the upgrade [08:11] tsimpson: i used the link the bot gave to upgrade whats the difference? [08:11] so you'll want to run it manually ay another port [08:11] ahhh wait nm [08:11] how do i format an usb stick in kubuntu [08:11] !format [08:11] For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap [08:11] eagles0513875: so need the ubuntu server upgrade part right? [08:12] smurfslover: you use a partitioner [08:12] noaXess: ya but like tsimpson said sshd might get killed off during the upgrade [08:12] eagles0513875: ok.. hm.. [08:12] might want to run it manually using another port [08:12] tsimpson: can't fine a qt partitioner in the repo [08:12] I'd go so far as to say "sshd *WILL* be killed" [08:13] smurfslover: partitionmanager for jaunty and karmic [08:13] !info partitionmanager [08:13] partitionmanager (source: partitionmanager): partition manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-0ubuntu3 (karmic), package size 726 kB, installed size 2848 kB [08:13] tsimpson: once its killed isnt it automatically restarted since your still in the original run level one was in? [08:13] eagles0513875: yes, but all connections are reset and the upgrade will die along with the session [08:14] tsimpson: so, better make it directly on the machine [08:14] yeah [08:15] login over ssh, sudo -i to root, start another sshd on a custom port, log out and ssh in to the new port [08:15] then run the upgrade as normal === vahik is now known as KubuntuHelp [08:17] tsimpson: partitionmanager does what i need thx :) [08:21] !xen [08:21] XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen [08:30] 'morning :) [08:31] morning Vlado9A3CY === mayuya is now known as Maunix [08:38] hey tsimpson look at this :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/312252/ [08:38] ahh, those server devs are smarter than they look ;) [08:39] tsimpson: yes :) === dharman_away is now known as dharman [08:40] * dharman is back. [08:41] dharman: please disable that === dbatoo is now known as napterk === khushi is now known as khushi_ === dharman is now known as dharman_away [08:51] * dharman_away is away: Gone away for now [08:59] Hi there! Is there a way to run ubuntu one on Kubuntu 9.10? I have installed ubuntuone-client-gnome but I don't know how to add my computer to ubuntu one... [09:08] Hi all [09:08] franta: try asking n #ubuntuone [09:08] my grub2 doesn't start windows xp. I only see the black screen :( [09:08] can anyone help me? [09:08] !grub2 [09:08] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [09:08] try that link [09:09] tsimpson: thanks [09:15] how do i enable the webkit engine in konquerer after i have installed webkitkde [09:15] ? [09:15] Sysinfo for 'sam-desktop': Linux 2.6.31-14-generic running KDE 4.3.2 (KDE 4.3.2), CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU2.80GHz at 2791 MHz (5582 bogomips), HD: 5/35GB, RAM: 597/614MB, 122 proc's, 12.54min up [09:15] r00t_ninja: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [09:15] you need to recompile konqueror to use webkit === levsha_ is now known as levsha_kam [09:17] what is webkitkde for then? [09:17] no [09:17] maybe not actually [09:17] tsimpson: no you have only to use webkitkde [09:17] then right button on the webpage [09:17] * tsimpson didn't read it properly [09:17] preview with webkit [09:17] is it possible avoid to inset sudo password? [09:18] you should not [09:18] how is it possible to have Dolphin with root rights? [09:18] mauri: you have to became root [09:18] mauri: and that is bad [09:18] mauri: kdesudo dolphin [09:18] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Remove%20Password%20Prompt%20For%20sudo [09:18] Peace-: What i want is to avoid to insert the pasword [09:19] that is bad thing. [09:19] mauri: read the link I posted [09:19] it also explains why it's a "bad thing" [09:20] mauri: i prefer kdesudo konqueror $HOME [09:20] anyway you can use dolphin i think [09:21] so is it possible to have konquerer use webkit by default or for select websites? [09:21] wtih default not [09:21] Peace-: Peace-ok thanks a lot [09:21] r00t_ninja: you can use arora , or rekonq [09:22] This is only english channel? [09:22] lama_: yes [09:22] r00t_ninja: toy can change the default [09:23] *you [09:23] any hints as to where? [09:23] !poland | lama_ [09:23] lama_: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl. [09:24] r00t_ninja: from konqueror Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations -> text -> html -> Embedding tab [09:24] the webkit view should be there, move it to the top [09:24] ok thanks [09:24] o yeah [09:24] nice trick [09:33] tsimpson: nice i have made konqu-webkit [09:33] tsimpson: i didn't think to association [09:33] to fix the stuff [09:33] :) [09:34] I only remembered it because someone somehow set it to kate part by default, and that's to fix it [09:35] yes i knew that but for html i never thought [09:35] xD [09:44] i have a problem compiling a file, please help me, log is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/310444/ === lama_ is now known as lamik [09:45] Gmorning [09:45] hi *. I am having problems with video (with x11) since I upgraded to 9.10) on two different computers. Does anyone know a fix for this?6 [09:46] haris: Kmorning [09:46] I have a problem with Kopete and yahoo messenger.Any help please? [09:46] Which version of kopete and what's the problem? [09:47] how can i add plugins for mozilla in kubuntu to stream audio ? [09:48] Kopete is 0.80.2 and the problem is that, when I send request for webcam, nothing seems to happen. [09:51] hello, im trying to set shortcut for amarok Repeat and Random but they do not work... [10:06] nik_: why do you have to set shortcut for those thing? Use keyboard is more faster [10:07] nik_: Repeat: Alt+P+R+... [10:07] nik_: Random: Alt+P+N+... === gaurav_ is now known as Guest42364 [10:12] i need help ,,my box kmail is not loading [10:12] i need help anybody [10:14] hey anybody to help? [10:14] i dont get it [10:14] what do you mean by your box [10:14] my pc [10:14] so kmail isnt loading [10:14] yes [10:15] meaning you cant launch it or cant recieve email? [10:15] cannot launch it [10:15] open up a terminal [10:15] ok [10:15] and run the command kmail [10:16] i did that and i even reinstalled kmail however nothing works [10:16] what is the output [10:17] its just shows kmail for few seconds and then fades away [10:17] what about kmail -d [10:17] ok let me try that === costin is now known as Intel_Power [10:19] ok ninja when i run kmail on terminal i get various error [10:20] pastebin? [10:20] its says kdecore (KAction) Warning: KAction::plugAccel():call to deprecated action [10:20] * hemathor is back. [10:20] that shouldnt matter [10:21] * hemathor is away: Gone away for now [10:21] also the last line symbol lookup error [10:21] * hemathor is back. [10:21] try sudo apt-get remove kmail --purge [10:21] and then deleting the configuration from your hom dir [10:21] ok [10:22] hello [10:22] ok ninja done [10:22] go delete [10:22] i mean [10:22] delet: === _newbie4 is now known as RussellAlan [10:23] should i go to apps/kmail/ [10:23] ?? [10:23] delete /home/sam/.kde/share/apps/kmail [10:23] delete /home//.kde/share/apps/kmail [10:23] ok [10:23] and then reinstall [10:24] can i type this command in terminal [10:25] what command [10:25] do [10:25] delete /home/ cd /home//.kde/share/apps/ [10:25] then [10:25] rm -rf kmail [10:25] r00t_ninja: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [10:25] i hate this floodbot [10:26] then don't use enter as punctuation ;) [10:26] i was seperating the commands [10:26] ok done ninja [10:26] I know, but the bots are dumb [10:26] ok now do "sudo apt-get install kmail" [10:27] actually [10:27] dont [10:27] refresh your package list [10:27] ok i did it [10:27] hi [10:27] you installed kmail? [10:27] do i need to delete it again??? [10:27] no [10:27] yeah [10:27] try launch it now [10:28] is kmail good? [10:28] yup thank you [10:28] np [10:28] hurraaaaaaaaaaaaaah [10:28] thank you ninja [10:28] i have problem with KPackageKit. It cannot update anything cos it's trying to use proxy 10.1.2.17:8080 but i didn't set any. i was also trying to grep my home dir and /etc for '10.1.2.17' and nothing was found. [10:29] have you checked system settigs? [10:29] yes [10:29] it's set to Conect to the Internet directly [10:29] ok [10:30] what happens when you dont use kpackaekit [10:30] Failed to fetch http://sk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python-defaults/python-dev_2.6.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb Could not connect to 10.1.2.17:8080 (10.1.2.17), connection timed out [10:30] when i use aptitude, everything is ok [10:30] only KPackageKit has problems [10:30] what about apt-get [10:30] apt-get works too [10:31] ok so its a kde setting problem [10:31] i'm having trouble with kubuntu opening thousands of konqueror windows when i click on a link in quassel... anyone heard of this problem? [10:32] asdzx: do any other applications try to connect through a proxy? [10:33] asdzxc : do any other applications try to connect through a proxy? [10:33] r00t_ninja: i'm using Pidgin, Firefox, midnight commander, Krusader (FTP) and none of them has problems [10:34] ok [10:34] could you try deleting your connection [10:35] from Network manager ? [10:35] yes [10:35] * hemathor is away: Gone away for now [10:35] well, i have defined one connection but i cannot force MN to use it: it is always using 'Auto eth0'. [10:35] ok [10:35] so i use Auto eth0 [10:35] and it cannot be deleted [10:36] try a apt-get update [10:36] and possibly changing your mirror [10:37] * hemathor is back. [10:38] lovre: can you supply some more details: Is your computer a laptop or desktop CRT of TFT, Regards MP3 support load Amarok you will then get notified that Amarok suggests installing extra plugings(Follow the wizard it will install the codecs) [10:44] Hi [10:45] Can someone help me with samba shares? [10:45] I mean, there two problems, maybe them somehow connected [10:46] First, my Dolphin crushes when i try to open smb:// share [10:47] Second, when i open samba share via network places i cannot play music and videos. Pictures opens just fine [10:48] hello there [10:49] how can I check my harddisk for any badsectors or any other problems [10:49] developer-si: hi [10:49] nice that an irc channel for kubuntu exists [10:50] I'd like to ask something [10:50] !ask | developer-si [10:50] developer-si: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [10:50] :) thanks [10:51] apparle: think the command is badblocks [10:51] tangent3: ok... I'll see its manpage [10:52] I overloaded Alt+tab key short cut and can't set it back. I tried in K->System settings->Desktop->Desktop Effects->All effects but for Box, Cover and Flip Switch one can't set keyboard short cuts [10:53] developer-si: You should select one of these effects and not all of them [10:53] I selected just one at the time but that didn't solved the isue. [10:55] developer-si: have you assigned Alt-Tab to any other app [10:57] apparle: I set Alt-Tab key combination to Present Windows effect but then I wanted back the default Cover Switch so I set other key comb. to Present Windows and enable back Cover Switch but it doesn't work. [10:59] Hi all, in the release candidate of Karmic Koala, i had the option to have the backgound change to a picture of the current weather, and or a 3d generated picture of the world. Any ideas which package i have to install to get them back [11:00] developer-si: so currently what happens when you press alttab [11:02] apparle: Nothing. But it seems that some action in every other application gets fired. For example, here in Quassel IRC i noticed that your name appears in this TexBox when I press Alt+tab. In Kmess tabulator (\t) gets inputed in the TextBox. [11:03] developer-si: so it means basically, only tab is being pressed and not alt tab ..... check if Alt key is working..... with some other hotkey [11:05] apparle: Oh yes. It seems so. It doesn't seem that Alt key is set to some action. Nothing happens. === _newbie4 is now known as RussellAlan [11:22] hello [11:24] werd up, I just did a fresh install of 9.10 and it didn't recognize my Windows 7 install on my /dev/hdb1.. so I went to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and it doesn't exist... is there a new way to add boot menus or did it just not get created for some reason? [11:24] yea grub2 is different [11:24] i just cant remember how.... [11:24] google [11:25] yeah if they are going to change shit like that you would think they would install a man page for grub... [11:25] apparantly grub2 doesnt autodetect window 7 [11:25] !grub2 [11:25] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [11:26] /boot/grub/grub.cfg is the file with the boot entries but it is created by templates everytime new when you trigger update-grub [11:27] yeah, I'm reading.. they definitely didn't make this easier [11:28] i had the same problem. for me it solved the problem when i changed the content of /boot/grub/device.map to the right device and after trah run update-grub.. after that windows was available again [11:28] well, both devices are already in my devce.map [11:29] what /etc/grub.d/40_custom like [11:29] hmm running update grub didn't find my windows install though [11:31] ok, i just upgraded from nvidia nforce 5200 integrated graphics to an ati 4770 card... after rebooting couldn't start X so i replaced xorg.conf with the failsafe and got back into kde. now how should i install ati drivers? [11:32] k-nemu, system, hardware drivers [11:32] k-menu [11:32] it should detect your card and propose an ati driver alternative if there is one [11:32] got it thanks [11:32] it's proposing fglrx [11:33] sounds correct for an ati chip [11:33] here's my 40_custom file [11:33] http://pastebin.com/d48d8f318 [11:34] looks fine [11:34] oh wait, I'm retarded I think [11:34] I need /dev/sdb1 not hdb1 [11:34] serial ata [11:35] wait that is what I have [11:35] hmm [11:35] try using the uuid [11:35] hd1,1 is correct but i guess at yoor device.map hd1 is mapped to hdb1 ant therre you must have sdb1 [11:36] no my device map is correct as well [11:36] (hd1) /dev/sdb [11:36] in /etc/grub.d/40_custom [11:36] okay [11:36] isn't that what this line is for: search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 984A475C4A4735F2 [11:37] because that's my uuid on the end [11:37] oh ok [11:37] is that the right uuid? [11:37] according to : blkid -o value -s UUID /dev/sdb1 [11:37] mmm [11:38] capcom: thanks, rebooting now... fingers crossed [11:39] is someone here who uses a eeepc 1000h go (these with a built-in 3g/umts modem) in combination with karmic? === leon is now known as Guest49822 [11:40] or someone who knows how to get the 3g modem to work? [11:44] well this blows horses [11:44] brb [11:45] i need help\ [11:46] we cant read minds [11:47] i want insert files in /var/www [11:47] but its owned by root? [11:48] yes [11:48] you could run nautilus as root [11:48] i mean [11:48] dolphin [11:48] press alt + f2 [11:48] i open /var/www [11:48] and type kdesudo dolhpin [11:49] and type kdesudo dolphin [11:50] you could then create a icon or whatever for that [11:50] OK [11:50] why so caps? [12:11] Никого что ли? === RussellAlan is now known as Gineering === rlund is now known as BombeNissen [12:18] well it never said anything about finding it when I ran update grub, but it's there and it works === r00t_ninja is now known as r00t_ninj|a [12:18] * r00t_ninj|a is away === r00t_ninj|a is now known as r00t_ninja [12:18] * r00t_ninja is back. === Peace- is now known as Peace-Prodigy [12:22] I suppose it's too much to ask to change the menu order [12:22] because I want Windows to be 2nd in the list [12:22] nah not to much\ [12:23] on my karmic; sudo aptitude update cannot find updates, but KPackageKit finds. How is that possible? [12:23] Hi, anyone tried compiling ktorrent 4.3.3 on karmic? [12:23] kavurt: and apt-get ? [12:23] r00t_ninja: I' [12:24] Captain_Haddock: apt-get can't find either [12:24] r00t_ninja: I'm assuming I can do it without a manual edit of the grub.cfg I'm not supposed to edit? [12:24] kavurt: kpackagekit is just a frontend for apt. [12:24] yea [12:25] peabody: grub editor in system settings [12:25] Captain_Haddock: are apt-get and aptitude the same thing? [12:26] I don't have one of those.. [12:27] kavurt: similar. I think aptitude is built upon apt [12:27] not sure exactly though... [12:27] peabody: it should be under the advanced tab iirc [12:30] yeah, I'm coming up short. There's a grub menu editor in system repository, but it's for grub not grub2 [12:31] is it me or does *buntu 9.10 seem more like a testing release === Gineering is now known as eGin [12:32] sort of like leading upt to 10.04 [12:32] it's not a LTS right? [12:32] 9.10 isnt [12:32] 10.04 is [12:32] yeah, well that's a relief [12:32] because I think you're right [12:33] I think they got ambitious with 9.10 that's for sure [12:33] because they are transitioning alot of things that were stable and working [12:33] yea [12:34] I'm undecided which one to go with , the open-sourced version or the closed one. I optimized the open sourced one, the closed one more features but maybe less optimized( I guess). [12:34] hi, I can't shut down or log out of KDE anymore. Has anybody ever had a similar problem? [12:34] i think xsplash needs more work [12:34] (I mean by clicking on buttons. CLI shutdown work) [12:34] though I'm not complaining too much, I like a lot of the improvements.. there's a decent partition editor for KDE now, the network manager is much better, and the new system notifications have a better implementation for starters [12:34] on normal ubuntu that is [12:35] but I lost support for my notebook's wireless driver and I lost support for my desktop's graphics card with 9.10 [12:35] hi people [12:35] and they are both new equipment [12:35] < 2 years old [12:36] could somebody please guide me to install dual monitor support ? im running kubuntu 9.10 ? [12:36] I had to install the backport drivers to get wireless support back onto my laptop, and I had to install 9.10 from the alternate install disk [12:36] to get it installed on my desktop [12:36] what and how should i install so i wount crash my freshly installed os ? [12:36] ^updates [12:37] more specific ? :D [12:37] install the updates [12:37] thats all ? [12:37] open Kpackage kit, click software updates [12:37] well its a good start [12:37] refresh [12:37] apply all [12:38] heh [12:38] cool [12:38] going to that [12:38] that's definitely a must for new installs of 9.10.. it definitely got out the door needing more than a few bug fixes === eGin is now known as Gineering [12:43] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 [12:47] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [12:47] under improvements it ahs [12:48] openSUSE & Fedora have not yet adopted GRUB 2 [12:48] how do I restart the dcop server in Kubuntu 9.10? [12:49] the easy way would be to logout [12:49] hmm I think I figured it out r00t_ninja.. if you reorder the files in /etc/grub.d I think you'll reorder the boot menu [12:50] adding different numbers in front? [12:50] I can't logout. (at least not through the menu). That's what I'm trying to debug/fix. [12:51] "/usr/bin/qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer logout 0 2 0" does absolutely nothing. No messages in terminal [12:51] save all your work [12:51] open a terminal [12:51] yeah, like changing the /etc/rc.3/ script order [12:52] and type: [12:52] sudo killall Xorg [12:52] it will work like a charm [12:52] starts at 00 and ends at 99 [12:52] yes, but I don't want to always use sudo to log out... [12:52] I would like to know why it stopped working [12:52] bug [12:52] or a t least make it work again [12:53] known bug of 9.10? [12:53] so it doesnt work even after reboot? [12:53] no [12:53] do you have all bugfixes installed? [12:53] I installed gnome-core and there it works, but not in KDE [12:53] yes [12:54] i have no idea [12:54] + im tired [12:54] is there anything else i need for dual monitor support then the drivers from nvidia ? [12:54] ^not really [12:54] psicho: no that should be it [12:54] just have to configure [12:54] ah and thats the hard part of it :) [12:55] any good tutorial on it ? [12:55] shouldnt be [12:55] open up nvidia-settings [12:55] as root [12:55] go into X Server Display Configuration [12:55] click detect displays [12:56] then set resolution and stuff if its not correct [12:56] then save to xorg [12:56] * X configuration file [12:56] cool [12:56] thanx [12:57] going to restart, im gonna be back :) [12:58] ok last test for grub [12:58] brb === Gineering is now known as RussellAlan === RussellAlan is now known as eGin [13:00] hi there [13:01] i'm just trying to get my mobile broadband modem running... [13:01] well, that didn't work. I lost my menu entirely! [13:01] lol [13:01] brb [13:01] ...after some setup work network manager detected my usb-modem === |GuS| is now known as [GuS] [13:01] and i made the proper settings for my provider [13:02] now - after all setup is done - i CAN'T CLICK on the connection when i open the network-manager-tray-menu [13:02] WTF? [13:02] i see my connection. on mouse over it gets highlighted... [13:02] ...but i can'T click [13:03] what should i select Separate X screen or twin view? ....Separate X screen right ? [13:03] anybody using mobile broadband in KDE who can confirm that this should work in normal circumstances? [13:04] wrrr [13:04] its not working [13:04] what were we discussing? === eGin is now known as RussellAlan [13:05] r00t_ninja: if i click on save X to config file [13:05] error [13:05] its a bug [13:05] i get an error it canot parse to it [13:05] or something like that [13:05] yep [13:05] so how should i fix it ? [13:05] hold up [13:05] hi,anyone successful with booting a iso with grub2? [13:05] i remember seeing a solution somewhere [13:06] nice :) [13:06] whats the exact error [13:07] Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'! [13:08] did you run it from a terminal? [13:08] yeah [13:08] sudo nvidia-settings [13:09] if i give you my xorg.conf you should be able to configure it [13:09] ah there are more errors in the terminal [13:09] VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf. [13:09] Undefined Device "(null)" referenced by Screen "Default Screen". [13:09] try sudo nvidia-xconfig [13:09] okey [13:10] give me a sec [13:10] asspirates [13:10] one step forward and now two steps back [13:10] Hi guys [13:10] just chainload grub2 [13:10] I've changed everything back to how it was when I did get the menu with Windows 7 as a boot option, and I'm not getting it anymore [13:11] and use grub 1 as main boot loader [13:11] I'm unable to run firefox in kubuntu 9.10 [13:11] when I tried to installed it, it said that the package is already installed [13:11] r00t_ninja: http://pastebin.ca/1660873 [13:11] I'll leave it for now and just use my bios bootloader [13:11] I'll just watch for a grub2 bugfix [13:12] apparently everyone with Windows 7 is having a problem with multiboot. [13:12] psicho: pastebin your xorg.conf === rexus is now known as Adhika [13:12] peabody: yea [13:12] peabody: yeah me too [13:12] i hade to chage from grub to lilo [13:12] fortunately I hardly ever use windows [13:12] i dont dual boot so it doesnt affect me [13:13] ;) [13:13] r00t_ninja: okey going to :) just a sec [13:13] k [13:13] though I do wonder if anyone has figured out how to mount their linux volumes automatically when win 7 boots [13:14] black magic [13:14] I wrote a batch file, but since I only have home premium and not ultimate.. apparently I don't get a policy editor that allows me to run scripts at startup? [13:14] couldnt you add it to the startup folder [13:14] it would then run on login [13:14] it would then run on login [13:14] lol [13:14] lol [13:14] lol [13:14] r00t_ninja: trying to make a fully interoperable environment between windows and linux basically requires a voodoo witchdoctor of the highest order [13:14] lol [13:14] r00t_ninja: trying to make a fully interoperable environment between windows and linux basically requires a voodoo witchdoctor of the highest order [13:15] r00t_ninja: http://pastebin.ca/1660875 [13:15] r00t_ninja: http://pastebin.ca/1660875 [13:15] wow gay [13:15] wow gay [13:16] I think ignore was added to most irc clients in like 1996 [13:16] I think ignore was added to most irc clients in like 1996 [13:16] hi all, the firefox installer in my kubuntu is not working, is there any way I can solve this? [13:16] hi all, the firefox installer in my kubuntu is not working, is there any way I can solve this? [13:16] yeah, use kpackage manager and search for firefox-3.5 [13:16] yeah, use kpackage manager and search for firefox-3.5 [13:17] then right click the K launcher and go to menu editor, and delete the installer icon from the menu [13:17] psicho: try http://pastebin.com/d13a5953b [13:18] thanx [13:18] i think it should work [13:19] ugh another great compatibility feature in 9.10 [13:19] ? [13:20] psicho: can you configur it now? [13:20] mkfs.ext3 now uses a default inode byte size of 256 instead of 128 [13:21] unfortunately windows ext2 drivers all require a 128 byte per inode size [13:21] awesome [13:21] now I get to reformat all my drives [13:21] lol [13:21] lol [13:21] i have opened this xconfig with kate [13:21] and now i cant save it [13:22] did you open it as root? [13:22] now, is there a way to open stuff from gui as root ? [13:22] or i always have to use the terminal ? [13:22] press alt + f2 [13:22] *no [13:22] and type [13:22] kdesudo kate [13:23] kewl! thanx a lot [13:24] peabody: you could try http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd [13:24] however it might not work with partitions over 1.5tb [13:25] psicho: right click the start button > menu edit >select the app > advanced & tick "run as different user| [13:25] thanx [13:25] then it will prompt for root password when you select from menu [13:25] wait but wouldnt that make it always run as root whn you use it? [13:25] yep [13:26] psicho: did it work? [13:27] r00t_ninja: no :( this is what i get now [13:27] http://pastebin.ca/1660883 [13:27] in the case of gparted you would want it that way ;) [13:27] yea and nvidia-settings [13:27] cool [13:27] the xconf.org has been saved [13:27] now what ? :D [13:28] click apply [13:28] cannot be completely applied :( [13:28] so the other screen isnt workin? [13:29] it say i have to write the changes to the xconfig file and also restart === RussellAlan is now known as eGin|imA-Guy [13:29] something :D [13:29] so save to xorg worked? [13:29] yeah [13:29] know i have to restart the x server [13:29] yep [13:29] kdesudo killall xorg [13:29] save stuff first === dbatoo is now known as napterk [13:30] hope it wount crash :( [13:30] lol [13:30] no process found :D [13:30] kdesudo killall Xorg [13:32] . [13:32] still only one minitor :( [13:32] or wait [13:33] what? [13:33] well yeah [13:33] only one display [13:34] wait [13:34] hi, how can I use Kubuntu to install linux on a new HDD if I only have ISO image? [13:34] go into nvidia-settings === maco_ is now known as maco [13:34] display configuration [13:34] yeah [13:34] screens [13:34] click configure [13:34] 2 [13:35] and ? [13:35] on both monitors i have X second screen [13:35] umm dw [13:35] okey goint to restart this x stuff once again [13:36] i changed the location of the second screen from right to left [13:36] try rebooting [13:36] just for good luck [13:36] okey [13:38] hmm [13:38] no wor? [13:38] no work? === leon is now known as Guest94556 [13:38] now i can move my mouse over to the second screen , but i cant drag over any window :( [13:38] well thats a start [13:39] how to install google earth in karmic [13:39] probably a kde setting now [13:39] also the mouse pointer change from the regular cursor to a black cross [13:39] kde isnt actually running on that screen then [13:40] your help please for google earth [13:40] is there a way to run it on both screens ? [13:40] yes [13:41] http://olyrus.blogspot.com/2006/07/how-to-install-google-earth-for.html [13:41] desktops [13:41] go into system settings [13:41] then display [13:41] in the system settings i have 2 desktops [13:41] Lo there everyone. [13:41] you in system settings ? [13:41] thank you root ninja [13:42] yeah [13:42] go into Display [13:42] im there [13:42] go down to multiple monitors [13:42] yeah [13:42] and should be somewhere ther [13:42] i dont have multiple monitors so im not sure [13:42] screens and i might be able to help [13:43] but all i have there is ..."You do not appear to have this configuration" [13:43] So I made a Kubuntu 9.10 LiveUBS stick with the, "USB Startup Disk Creator" tool, but when I reboot my laptop (with the BIOS set up to boot from the USB first) it refuses to boot from it. [13:43] weird [13:43] go into the size and orientation [13:43] and click identify outputs [13:44] thers only one monitor (default ) [13:44] did identify output do anything? [13:45] no [13:45] grrr [13:45] just need to get kde to recognise both monitors [13:45] going for that restart [13:45] perhaps it will help [13:46] i'll be back in a min or 2 :D [13:48] what the hack is [13:48] xinerama ? [13:49] used for dual monitors i think [13:49] the nvidia driver has its own implementation [13:49] hi [13:50] Hey, my screen gets black when I'm not typing.. then after 1 to 3 secs (seems random) it gets black.. but it will turn on again immediatly when I press any key.. does someone know what this is ? (this happens just now, didn't update anything recently) [13:50] squarc: screensaver settings maybe? [13:51] system settings -> desktop -> screensaver and change the start automatically time [13:52] with the new kubuntu version Konversation isn't working anymore. The window freezes. Is there a workaround / solution? [13:52] Hiyas all [13:52] works for me [13:53] after starting Konversation I see that it want to connect to a server and then it freezs. [13:53] it still does not work :( [13:53] lobbie_> works here using it atm. [13:53] psicho: enable twin view [13:54] okey [13:54] in the nvidia settings and then try [13:54] how to make a prolink PHS100 3.5 G HSDPA MODEM works in karmic [13:54] lobbie_> can u start it in a konsole to see if it throws up something interesting [13:54] lobbie_> you can pastebin the output [13:54] hey guys [13:54] Why does Amarok not support Shoutcast now-- Karmic Koala [13:55] lobster> last time i heard its was due to license issue [13:55] ok thanx [13:55] well [13:55] if i set TwinView, i get an error [13:56] what error? [13:56] lobster> Shoucast TOS probably denied amarok [13:56] Failed to Set MetaData mode (1) [13:56] running it from a terminal? [13:56] metamode (1) [13:56] yeah as sudo [13:56] any terminal output [13:56] there is no terminal output [13:56] the exact message [13:56] ok [13:56] Failed to set MetaMode (1) 'DFP-0: nvidia-auto-select @1680x1050 +1920+0, DFP-1: nvidia-auto-select @1920x1080 +0+0' (Mode 3600x1080, id: 50) on X screen 0. [13:56] hey im a total n00b to Linux in general was wondering if i cud get some help with a gforce9800 .. cant get my HDMI output working . [13:57] ajd2k9: have you installed nvidia drives [13:57] help for prolink modem [13:57] psicho [13:57] lets start fresh [13:57] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [13:57] okey :) [13:57] done [13:58] ok you might want to restart xorg [13:58] r00t_ninja: um nope ... il look at doing that i thought it had done it as its using the card.. [13:58] ajd2k9: go into application -> system -> hardware dricers [13:58] ajd2k9: go into application -> system -> hardware drivers [13:59] in the menu [13:59] ajd2k9: hi mate ;) [14:00] yeaaah [14:00] its working now ! [14:00] ok sweet [14:00] just one minor thing :D [14:00] modem 3 G prolink [14:00] but i guess i can solve it on my own :) [14:00] what is it? [14:00] helo [14:00] major thanx anyway ! [14:01] well it thinks that my second monitor is on the right, while in real its on the left :) [14:01] you change that in nvidia-settings dont you [14:01] yeah :) [14:01] nasrullah : right click on network icon in sytem tray [14:02] and then click manage connections [14:02] ajd2k9: my replys dont show for me in that private conversation :-/ [14:02] ok then thank a lot [14:02] see if you can configure it in there [14:03] r00t_ninja: im clicking on activate but nothings happening. [14:03] i donot own one now but i want to buy one soon..which one you advice me to buy [14:03] are there 2 options? [14:03] it is working after I deleted my config [14:03] click on the one below and then click back to the reccomended one [14:04] and then click activate [14:04] its a little bug i noticed [14:04] have anyone tried kubuntu 9.10 standard desktop install with manually selected partitions? [14:04] there isnt one below .. il try starting again. [14:04] mass> yep its what i use [14:04] is there only one option? [14:04] yeh [14:05] what version? [14:05] i'm having trouble with booting [14:05] v 185 [14:05] try just double clicking it [14:05] possibly either grub or boot flag problem === rafael is now known as Rafiwskis [14:05] and then clicking activate [14:05] hi..may i know where xorg.conf located in kde3 kubuntu? [14:06] what can be the problem if the KpackageKit can find the app i looking for , but i have no option to install it [14:06] ? === maco_ is now known as maco [14:06] psicho: what do you mean? [14:06] did you click the little arrow [14:06] ratasong etc/X11 [14:06] and then click apply [14:06] psicho> u mean can find or cant* find? [14:06] r00t_ninja: its installing now .. thanks [14:06] but that little arrov is grey [14:06] you have to click it [14:07] to make it blue [14:07] psicho: i've been there but there is no xorg.conf [14:07] even if i click on it, its still grey [14:07] its kdevelop what i want to install [14:07] bigbrovar so you had no problems with booting into your linux installation? [14:07] do other applications install? [14:08] i guess [14:08] try install it from a terminal [14:08] sudo apt-get kdevelop [14:08] ok [14:08] sudo apt-get install kdevelop [14:08] thanx [14:08] hey all, [14:08] mass> none at all. on first boot i logined me out immediately. after trying for like 5 times and same result. i just restarted and all was fine till this day :) [14:09] E: Invalid operation kdevelop [14:09] hmm [14:09] I have read samba is not very Kool in Kubuntu. I tried sharing a file through Dolphin and nothing happens, Should I try somentihg differnet? [14:09] strange [14:09] sudo apt-get install kdevelop [14:09] psicho> sometimes u have to change find by name to find by description [14:10] okey its downloading now [14:10] thanx [14:13] keffie_jayx : try smb4k [14:13] keffie_jayx : try smb4k [14:13] alright [14:13] alright [14:13] sTrGs4ol: you are a bot repeating everythin one says [14:13] sTrGs4ol: you are a bot repeating everythin one says [14:14] R00t_ninja: nah HDMI still aint working normal VGA is though .. [14:15] did you restart? [14:16] yeh [14:16] also try installing nvtv [14:16] whats that? [14:16] hmm grub gave me error 15 and refuses to respond - what's the usual problem? [14:16] Details: [14:16] This is a program to control the TV encoder chips on NVidia cards under Linux, in order to get tv-out with a wide range of resolutions and sizes, including "overscan" modes. It does even work with the free nv drivers. [14:16] search it in kpackagekit [14:16] okay [14:16] or runn the command in a terminal: [14:16] sudo apt-get install nvtv [14:21] list! [14:21] hello [14:21] help [14:22] with? [14:22] try //list [14:22] stop [14:22] * urthmover is trying to install kubuntu for the 10th or so time since yesterday still struggling to get to a working desktop.....on a Dell e6400 with nvidia NVS160 [14:24] r00t_ninka: nvtv doesnt seem to do anything [14:24] r00t_ninja: thanks [14:27] xdcc === Peace-Prodigy is now known as Peace- [14:27] hmm did anyone else' kubuntu 9.10 installation had trouble with grub? [14:28] luigi this channel is for chatting about kubuntu not for files [14:28] no mass my troubles are revolving around getting to a working desktop ...my guess is its a nvidia driver issue === xxx is now known as Guest28106 [14:28] if there's no xorg.conf,should i create it by myself? [14:29] what model is your GPU? [14:29] nvidia NVS160 on a dell e6400 laptop [14:29] nah hal handles xorg devices now [14:29] nah hal handles xorg settings now [14:30] without installing anything...on a fresh kubuntu install.....the system boots to the graphical login prompt....then I type in user/pass for a sec I get a Xorg X icon...then the graphical login comes back [14:30] urthmover that sounds obscure - either that or i'm just a little behind on my GPU knowledge [14:30] doesnt sound like an xorg problem [14:31] mass: I'm thinking you are behind.....this is a new'ish laptop from a few months ago...its a current latitude model [14:31] if xorg is actually starting [14:31] r00t_ninja: which log should I look at to solve this error? [14:32] so where can i edit settings for screen resolution now?i need to force my screen resolution to 1024 768 and kr&r doesnt want to keep my setting though [14:32] urthmover: /var/log/xorg [14:33] hmm i think i may have found a fix for my grub problem [14:33] r00t_ninja: ok I'll check there right now...I just got to a login [14:33] r00t_ninja: on this fresh install [14:33] for some reason, the menu.1st file isn't created [14:33] grub2 doesnt use that [14:33] oh darn [14:33] mass: right this is grub2 [14:34] so i still don't know why my grub is complaining :/ [14:34] mass: try running sudo update-grub [14:34] mass: and sudo os-prober to identify multiple OS if you are dual booting [14:35] i'm booting off a live cd right now [14:36] sudo update-grub [14:36] grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /. [14:37] hey, I removed kpackagekit and installed synaptic, but it looks ugly; I have gtk engine, other apps written with gtk (like Firefox) look ok [14:39] damn of all my years of playing with linux, i never had to deal with grub problems [14:40] hi guys, how can I connect to yahoo messenger using empathy? what package do I need to install? [14:40] haze [14:41] i need to learn to use grub2 [14:41] mass: telepathy-haze you mean? [14:41] yes, sorry [14:41] my accumulated knowledge keeps getting slapped by new tech [14:41] haze is the one with libpidgin, therefore containing everything but MSN and Jabber [14:45] mass: I had that package installed however I'm not able to see the yahoo backend in my empathy [14:45] * ubuntu_ [14:45] * ubuntu_ just installed kubuntu... [14:47] hmm rexus i'll definitely try once i fix my grub2 problem [14:47] ok [14:47] i can't possibly be the only person having troubles with grub2 btw... i barely did anything out of the ordinary! [14:51] howdy guys [14:51] hi [14:51] man, why did ubuntu chose grub2 as the default :( [14:51] cuz it's newer than grub1 [14:51] :)) [14:52] but it asked me if i wanted to install grub1 [14:52] ok, I found a solution to gtk apps running as root and looking ugly [14:52] sudo cp ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4 /root/.gtkrc-2.0 [14:52] yeah but i have no freaking idea how to fix my grub problem now [14:52] grub2 works fine for me but i dont know how to configure it yet [14:52] and you're done! [14:53] and it shouldn't even have a grub problem - i didn't do anything fancy [14:53] maco: http://bapoumba.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/uf-tutorial-of-the-week-october-12-2009-grub2-tutorials/ [14:53] did you do a fresh intall or an upgrade [14:53] well actually, i did mount my /boot on a separate partition, but that has never been a problem will all previous versions [14:53] right it displays on my tv but dpi is out totally iv tried changing it then the screen just goes nblank .. [14:53] fresh install [14:53] anybody have xpress 200m and ubuntu 9.10? [14:54] ajd2k9: what about the resolution [14:54] the res says its at 1920 1080 . [14:55] is that the correct res [14:55] yeah . [14:55] its a 32" tv [14:56] anybody have xpress 200m and ubuntu 9.10? [14:57] can you pastebin your xorg.conf [14:57] that to me? [14:57] yea [14:58] wait [14:58] first run [14:58] il have to restart and put it back on the 32" [14:58] ajd2k9: how are you connecting to the telly? [14:58] HDMI [14:58] plug it in [14:59] and run the command [14:59] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [14:59] okay [15:00] done? [15:00] yeah doesnt seem to have done anything. [15:00] you have to restart [15:01] okay brb [15:02] im on a fresh Karmic system, and i would like to set up everything necessary for C programming. Can someone help with this? [15:02] your all set [15:02] I'm planning to upgrade today. Do I need to comment out PPA lines in sources.list? [15:02] you have gcc [15:02] morning all [15:02] lovre: open up kate and enable the plugins you want and stuff [15:03] save as default session [15:03] a good kde mp3 player which can play my mp3 files on NTFS partitions ? [15:03] r00t_ninja: i have no experience in C programming i linux, so any help is appriciated.. [15:03] amarok should have mp3 support [15:03] <_nix_> psicho: hello, amarok should work and prompt you for installing mp3 support if it doesn't have it already. [15:03] psicho: rythmbox amarock or vlc [15:03] steevc: upgrade to karmic? [15:04] thanx [15:04] Captain_Haddock: Yes. Have PPAs for Gwibber and kubuntu-experimental [15:04] r00t_ninja: what do i do with kate? I dont know what plugins i need... [15:04] Is firefox the best web browser we have to use on nix? [15:05] steevc: the updater comments them out automatically.. but you could do it yourself too, to be safe. [15:05] hey pete_^ [15:05] steevc: that said, unless you want something specific in karmic, I wouldn't upgrade... or at least check with the live cd first. [15:05] Got some info bout two video cards and kde [15:05] <_nix_> Huntz23: it does what most people want it to do in a safe and friendly way [15:06] save your file as .c and in terminal do: gcc ; then ./a.out [15:06] _nix_: thats a respectable answer [15:06] <_nix_> Huntz23: I just don't get the notion of "best" since the idea is highly subjective :) [15:06] my wife has been using facebook, and apparently the flash lags alittle [15:07] Huntz23: I personally prefer Opera. [15:07] Captain_Haddock: I like to run the latest version to get the benefits. It's only a general home PC, so not a disaster if it goes wrong [15:07] _nix_: yea, in retrospect it was a little vague [15:07] steevc: roger [15:08] I guess I am looking for something that lags a bit less, and I dont think its the way I am setup but I could be wrong [15:09] korvin: ok, thx :D [15:09] mugginz: Hey [15:09] <_nix_> Huntz23: I maybe wrong but that seems like an issue with the flash plugin itself regardless of the browser being used. [15:10] pete_^: I know why you were getting the black stuff in the try [15:10] * tray [15:10] _nix_: I updated to 10 [15:10] mugginz: lack of ARGB with Xinerama or something so someone thought [15:10] When you use xinerama you loose compositing [15:10] But there's a work around [15:11] mugginz: Yes, compositing with xinerama is a no go sadly (2d performance sucks too) [15:11] on Karmic, what should I do on kde to detect and ask me "what to do" with the USB storage devices (external hdds and memory sticks)? [15:11] mugginz: not Xgl please ;) [15:11] so that would lead me to believe that I need to work on my browser [15:11] Some say you can get around it with xserver-xgl [15:11] pete_^: Why? [15:11] How do I rip a DVD video in Kubuntu 9.10? I have tried K3b > Tools > Rip Video DVD, but nothing happens. [15:12] tdn handbrake is the app of choice, but it's currently broken with 9.10 [15:12] mugginz: It's fairly outdated and has some issues (used it years ago) [15:12] how can i setup driver on xpress200m in Kubuntu 9.10? ati driver return error... [15:12] Walzmyn, why and how broken? [15:12] Walzmyn, what should I use instead then? [15:12] pete_^: I was hoping it would be OK. Looks like I might have to go back to Windows then [15:12] <_nix_> Huntz23: I'd try out different browsers in that case. I heard google chrome is available for linux now. [15:12] Walzmyn, cannot find packages matching handbrake [15:13] tdn: I don't know. I just went to download it today and their website said it was not working with a package in 9.10 and would update soon [15:13] tdn: not in repo, gotta get it from their website [15:13] Walzmyn, ok. What to use then? [15:13] mugginz: It may work for you, but It's not really something I'm interested in using again. I think I will probably get a matrox TH2G which should make everything ok. [15:13] hmmm, yeah I was diggin through the browser in the repositories for ubuntu hardy and wasnt sure about any of them [15:13] <_nix_> Huntz23: oh, its still in development [15:13] tdn: don't know. but I would hope handbrake would be fixed pretty soon. [15:13] pete_^: I think I'll switch to Windows till I get a Eyefinity card [15:14] mugginz: Shame that. With Xinerama things work, except you lose compositing and some 2d performance (if you have a fast cpu it's managable) [15:14] with so many to choose from, I gues I was looking for a way to not have to install all of them and try them... :) [15:14] Walzmyn, do you use Kubuntu 9.10? [15:14] tdn yes [15:14] Walzmyn, have you tried K3b for ripping? [15:14] Walzmyn, it should be able to rip dvds. [15:15] pete_^: Yep, exactly. I can't believe it's still broken in this way. [15:15] tdn no i have not [15:15] any ideas where i can download nvidia (version 185) drivers when "hardware drivers" doesn't install them [15:15] How do I rip video DVD in Kubuntu 9.10? [15:16] mugginz: There were things going around a while ago about GPU object and Xorg, supposedly that would make compositing work (but also require changes in the nvidia driver) doesn't seem to be any recent news on ti though [15:16] What's the difference between libavcodec52 and libavcodec-unstripped-52? [15:17] pete_^: I might see if I can find some more info on it. If it's a choice outta No composited desktop and Windows with a composited desktop, I think Windows might win for now. [15:17] mugginz: oh, did you try taking a region screenshot (ksnapshot or prt scrn key) when you were running xinerama? Totally kills everything for me [15:17] I'll give it a go [15:18] Is firefox 3.5 noticably different from 3 [15:18] Just did it and it worked! No crashy. [15:18] mugginz: Interesting, I haven't tried it on 190 drivers, only 185. [15:19] <_nix_> Huntz23: :) [15:19] I'm running the 190.42 with a 9600GT and a 9800GT [15:19] mugginz: I'll be interested to see if it crashes with 190.42 and 8800+9800GT [15:19] I couldn't get the 9800GT and 7600GT to work together in Linux, only Windows [15:20] mugginz: Odd, I had the 8800 and a 5200 working for a while [15:21] I tried juxt about everything. Then tested with Windows 7 x64 beta and still no go, then tried Vista x86 and it worked with the 7600GT and 9800GT [15:21] Strange [15:21] I agree [15:21] It's taken all day in experimentation [15:22] It's just lucky a freind could lend me the 9600GT [15:22] mugginz: now just convince your friend to take your 7600 and you're sorted ;) [15:23] But still no composite on 9600 and 9800 [15:23] _nix_: hehe .....is that an 'yeah not really' smiley face [15:24] <_nix_> Huntz23: its an i-am-sure-you-know-what-you're-doing face [15:24] _nix_: lol, yeah not always [15:24] when I try to start kgpg on the command line, I get this: [15:24] $ /usr/bin/kgpg [15:24] QSystemTrayIcon::setVisible: No Icon set [15:25] <_nix_> Huntz23: heh, maybe you can try out opera. It's supposed to have a low memory footprint than firefox. [15:25] I can start it in Gnome but not in KDE [15:25] _nix_: I will say I have been running hardy for about a week and already wonder if I should reconsider my choice to wait for the next LTS [15:25] jaunty btw but with kde 4.3 [15:26] Huntz23: Jaunty is fine but Karmic would give you grief === costin is now known as Intel_Power [15:26] _nix_: I have noticed alot of people not liking karmic [15:27] <_nix_> Huntz23: yah, the non-LTS releases don't seem very polished imo [15:27] helloo [15:27] _nix_: I already decided on not getting karmic until it gets buffed out for sure [15:27] anyone have an idea of why kgpg runs in Gnome but not in KDE? [15:27] Huntz23: Out of curiousity, what problem do you find in Karmic? [15:28] _nix_: me none I ahvent went there, but I just see alot of people in here having issues [15:28] Hello, i'm having trouble with flash audio with kubuntu 9.10. [15:28] bbeck: ask me. ask me :P [15:29] Anyone any idea? [15:29] it trashed my system and I tried installing it several times. I installed it successfully only on a netbook, and upgrade from jaunty [15:29] <_nix_> Huntz23: I'm sure the last response was meant for bbeck :) [15:29] groen: this is an upgrade? [15:29] <_nix_> Captain_Haddock: i like your beard [15:29] Amarok and system sounds work fine, only flash in konqueror does not. [15:29] _nix_: just don't tug on it :) [15:30] No itś an frsh new installation [15:30] even in my clean install of Karmic, it left me with only consoles [15:30] and little consolation [15:31] _nix_: I broke windows and last week I finished EOL Upgrade from edgy to fiesty, so I ws thinking of just chilling on a LTS for awhile, being as unstable releases if your not payin atttention can cause you a bit of grief [15:31] Iǘe tried pcm and one of my maudio delta 1010lt cards and both give audio exept from my browser, probably something with my settins [15:31] But what [15:31] err, edgy to hardy [15:31] groen: other browsers? [15:31] I havvent found a awnser on a forum so far [15:31] No firefox does exactly the same thing [15:32] groen: try adjusing the volume of PCM [15:32] <_nix_> Huntz23: yep [15:32] groen: If it's any help, after my upgrade I had an option to switch flash plugins from the non-free version to the partner version (don't remember which). [15:32] I disabled the applet in kgpg, perhaps now it will start in kde.... brb [15:32] Iǘe tried the terminal alsamixer, put there's no pcm volume controle there [15:33] * Captain_Haddock is using ktorrent 3.3 \o/ [15:33] groen: click kmix in system tray, press the mixer button. [15:33] is there a good download manager which support downloading from servers like rapidshare as a premium user? [15:33] psicho: jdownloader [15:33] thanx a lot ! [15:34] not in the repo, but the site has instructions for installing on Linux. [15:34] _nix_: but I am the type if its there why not...lol, other wise I would ahve just reinstalled a newer nix version instead of EOL upgrading from edgy, so I am bored after a week and thinking of upgrading...lol [15:34] Ok i have to set my settings to PCM first, there are only 2 maudio cards visible [15:34] can't be any worse tha nrunning windows...hehe [15:35] I am going to report a bug on kgpg, the problem is indeed just the applet [15:35] Walzmyn, you can get handbrake for ubuntu 9.10 here: http://handbrake.fr/snapshot.php This snapshot should work for ubuntu. [15:35] Ehhh, i've got no PCM volume to select [15:36] Only abbout 20 other options from my maudio card's [15:36] how do I report a bug on a PPA version, the same way as a bug on a regular release? [15:37] Any way to activate PCM in KDE mixer? [15:37] groen: I'm sorry I don't know. [15:38] on Karmic, what should I do on kde to detect "device notifier" the USB mass storage devices (external hdds and memory sticks)? [15:38] Ubuntu 8.04 worket, but ubuntu 9.10 gave me no sound at all [15:39] Kubuntu only flash gives no sound === alexei is now known as amgarchIn9 === eugenio is now known as maltese [15:43] I've turned all my volume channels up (about 20 channels) but none give me audio, anyone please? [15:43] need to find an easy graphical ftp server, I am new to ubuntu, been playing with it a few months... any suggestions [15:43] hey guys does kwin support Tiling? [15:43] hey guys does kwin support Tiling? [15:43] <_nix_> groen: are you sure none of them are muted? its typically the pcm channel [15:43] Flash just doesn't seem to work. [15:44] :-( [15:44] Audio that is [15:46] kde is the shit like windows [15:51] Intel_Power: maybe you are [15:52] be polite === jesse is now known as Guest36286 === Intel_Power is now known as costin__ === troll is now known as Guest13036 === ahmed is now known as Guest42261 === Guest13036 is now known as grumpy_old_troll === richard is now known as Guest12147 [15:56] i have a problem when i open the package management and try to get anything from it or update it give me this There are broken dependecies on your system. Please use an advanced package manage e.g. Synaptic or aptitude to resolve this situation. [15:57] Peace sack my dick === costin__ is now known as Intel_Power === grumpy_old_troll is now known as bob122 === basti2 is now known as basti [16:01] jodela... [16:05] I gues no one knowes, just like that song [16:07] i have a problem when i open the package management and try to get anything from it or update it give me this There are broken dependecies on your system. Please use an advanced package manage e.g. Synaptic or aptitude to resolve this situation. [16:07] plz help [16:07] Guest42261: which package manager are you using? [16:07] KPackagekit? [16:07] sypantic [16:07] yup [16:07] eh? which one? [16:08] KPackageki [16:08] hi all [16:08] i have a problem [16:08] i was just update to ubuntu 9.10 [16:08] Guest42261: do you have synaptic installed? [16:08] nop [16:08] KPackagekit only [16:09] i found i can't control monitor's brightness. [16:09] any idia [16:09] Guest42261: open a terminal (konsole) and type sudo apt-get update [16:09] aotianlong: what kind of computer? [16:09] aotianlong: you could in jaunty? [16:09] I have a problem with flash (youtube) there's njo audio [16:10] Anyone a idea? [16:10] Captain_Haddock: yes , its all good in jaunty. [16:10] Walzmyn: dell 1537 [16:10] Walzmyn: dell studio 1537 [16:10] aotianlong: I suggest that you log a bug report on launchpad. [16:10] E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) [16:10] E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [16:10] aotianlong: that a desktop or laptop? [16:10] Guest42261: close kpackagekit [16:10] Walzmyn: laptop [16:10] and try again. [16:11] i can control it on jaunty before. [16:11] event can control it on boot time. [16:11] aotianlong: I'm pretty sure that my Mom's laptop has the same issue (a Lenovo) [16:11] (her short cut keys for brightness no longer work) [16:12] Konqueror isn't sending any audio to my system, how can i make it to? [16:12] its already closed [16:12] aotianlong: i'm looking though synaptic and finding some pacakges specific to dell laptops, check and make sure those are installed [16:12] it wont get fixed until i restart and type sudo dpkg --configure -a [16:12] Captain_Haddock: so , this is a bug [16:12] Walzmyn: ok , i will try it . [16:12] Walzmyn: thank you. [16:13] aotianlong: other than that, I'm out of ideas :) [16:13] aotianlong: probably... especially if it was working in Jaunty.. even if there are separate packages for it in Karmic, which I doubt, the upgrade obviously broke it. [16:14] Guest42261: ok, restart and get back on IRC and we'll try again. [16:14] I'm using a thinkpad and I know in one release all my packages were auto-installed, next they were and 3rd they were again [16:14] who knows [16:14] Guest42261: you're trying to install/upgrade something and received that error message, even with kpakcagekit closed? [16:14] Captain_Haddock: ok [16:14] d9500: yup [16:14] Captain_Haddock: ubuntu sucks [16:15] aotianlong: well, the karmic upgrade was quite ridiculous.. I was quite happy with Jaunty. [16:15] aotianlong: you'll find that is a miniorty opinion in here [16:15] Guest42261: i've had that happen before in ubuntu. i always used sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock, and then tried my install/upgrade again. seemed to work [16:15] d9500: he's rebooting. [16:15] Captain_Haddock: ah. I gotta learn to type faster [16:15] :) [16:16] ahmed: try sudo apt-get update again === ahmed is now known as Guest54817 [16:17] ok [16:17] that was a pretty quick reboot [16:17] d9500: play an MMORPG - you'll be forced to type fast :) [16:18] hey [16:18] Captain_Haddock: it finished everything and didn't update anything === max is now known as Guest79103 [16:19] just hit allover the place [16:19] Guest54817: it updated the database [16:19] Guest54817: sudo apt-get upgrade [16:19] Reading package lists... Done [16:19] Building dependency tree [16:19] Reading state information... Done [16:19] You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these. [16:20] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [16:20] Guest54817: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [16:20] Guest54817: use the pastebin if you have a lot of errors (more than 3 lines) [16:20] libavformat52: Depends: libavcodec52 (>= 4:0.5+svn20090706) but it is not installed or [16:20] oops [16:21] http://paste.ubuntu.com/312556/ [16:22] Guest54817: try sudo apt-get -f install [16:22] Captin_Haddock: when i write sudo apt-get -f install [16:22] it just end up with me with a licenese agrrement about java in a blue screen [16:23] in in the end and i couldn't found anything to do but close [16:23] hmm, odd. For installing java itself? [16:23] Guest54817: you dont' want to accept the licenese? [16:24] Walzmyn: i wouldn't mind :D [16:24] hi there could anyone help me iv been trying to fix this for about 2 hours now and i cant the HDMI out on my 9800gt to display properly [16:24] Guest54817: you can't select OK? [16:24] ajd2k9: tried lowering resolution and work up from there? [16:24] Captain_Haddock:you mean with the mouse [16:25] il give it a go [16:25] Guest54817: sure.. or click the tab key and once selected, press enter. [16:25] Guest54817: arrows to select, and spacebar to "click" [16:26] ajd2k9: you are using the multiple monitors interface from system settings? [16:27] hello... i installed kubuntu karmic on my netbook dell mini inspiron 10 but the wireless doesnt work ..how can i enable it pleas??? [16:27] no what im doing is running from a 15" tft then when i think it would of changed somthing .. restqarting and plugging the 32" on its own its starts to be fione but then nothings right text is like the size of my hand ect [16:27] Captain_Haddock ,Walzmyn: done godbless you both :D [16:27] :) [16:27] Guest54817: ha!, we've been there ourselves [16:27] Guest54817: also do sudo apt-get install synaptic [16:28] Guest54817: i suggest using synaptic in the future [16:28] next time this happens you can use synaptic to fix things.. kpackagekit is a POS :) [16:28] Captain_Haddock , Walzmy: i will [16:28] :D [16:29] ajd2k9: I've connected to my 32" LG via the multiple monitors interface fine. [16:29] although this was using RGB. [16:29] i was going to install the version again but it didn't work with me :D [16:29] lakis: I take it that your ethernet is working ok? [16:30] it doesnt even detect it unless its on its own .. i may try using the onboard hdmi and take the G card out [16:30] yes ethernet is ok [16:30] but wireless tab in network manager is greyd out [16:31] lakis: how about ifconfig in konsole? You see the wifi interfaces? [16:31] i dont know what you mean ? [16:31] how do i do this? [16:31] lakis: open Konsole (terminal) and type ifconfig [16:31] just to know: to work "device notifier" for usb mass storage on Karmic Koala is necessary to install usbmount, by default is not installed... [16:32] lakis: see if you can see wmaster or similar [16:32] ugh, I'm pouring through documentation.. how do I mount my /tmp partition with a umask 0000 ? [16:32] it's ext3 [16:32] should I just format it as fat32? [16:33] ncv: nice, thanks. [16:33] no i dont see anything like that [16:33] ncv: I was actually trying to mount my ipod as you wrote that :) [16:33] "I was trying to mount my ipod" sounds so dodgy :S [16:35] lakis: it was working fine in Jaunty? [16:35] lakis: oh never mind.. fresh install [16:36] i just bought it [16:36] i didnt have jaunty [16:36] Captain_Haddock: if is not working for the first time, take out the device from the USB and put it in again... it worked to me... [16:37] ncv: roger [16:37] it seems like it need some kind of drivers maybe ? [16:37] like the wireless card is not supported.. [16:37] lakis: yes... look in your start menu for "hardware drivers" [16:38] you mean is startmenu - system - hardware drivers? [16:38] yes [16:38] ok hold on [16:39] this should list any "Restricted" drivers that are available [16:39] hi [16:40] my monitor's brightness now fixed. [16:40] aotianlong: how? [16:40] i was just install xbacklight [16:40] restarted the matchine [16:40] shortcut keys also work? [16:40] it works [16:40] nice [16:40] other shortcut keys always works. [16:41] it's cool [16:41] hope this will help some body. [16:41] bye . thank you [16:41] thanks [16:41] cya === ncv is now known as neceve [16:47] I've tried all the pulse audio apps but still, nothing [16:47] whats that command called, for installing LAMPP and some other services? [16:47] weeo [16:47] nvidia v185 driver is installed but error is coming: out of range [16:47] weep [16:47] help!!! [16:47] !lampp [16:47] Sorry, I don't know anything about lampp [16:47] !lamp [16:47] LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+) [16:48] is anyone there to help me?? [16:48] nvidia v185 driver is installed but error is coming: out of range... [16:49] BluesKaj: hi [16:49] kubunter, which nvidia card ? [16:50] BluesKaj:i hav installed nvidia v185 driver [16:50] BluesKaj: its giving error out of range [16:51] BluesKaj: it was recommended on hardware drivers list [16:51] not the driver ..which card ? do: lspci | grep VGA [16:53] BluesKaj: nVidia corporation C51G (Geforce 6100) [16:54] i have used tasksel to install LAMP, it has finished and exited. What now? where is it, how do i start the server? [16:55] lovre: type :which LAMP [16:55] kubunter: im not sure, the one tasksel offered me.... [16:55] BluesKaj: how do i solve it? [16:56] <_gtt_> I have two sound cards. after upgrading to Karmic Koala, I hear no sound. how do I resolve this? [16:56] kubunter, hang on , I'm looking [16:56] BluesKaj: ok [17:00] kubunter, what kind of monitor do you have ? [17:01] BluesKaj: 17 inches....1280*1024 max .resolution ....ViewSonic [17:05] kubunter, sudo nvidia-xconfig [17:06] kubunter, then , sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg [17:06] BluesKaj: ok let me try [17:06] kubunter, choose the vesa driver for now if it's available [17:08] !pm | korvin [17:08] korvin: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. [17:09] ok [17:09] korvin, which graphics card ? [17:09] i can't find xorg.conf in kubuntu 9.10 [17:09] xpress 200m [17:10] korvin: I don't think karmic uses xorg.conf by default but i could be mistaken [17:11] korvin, by default there's no xorg.conf , the kernel source modules are supposed to contain the correct driverd for your HW , hence in their infinite wisdom , no xorg.cong. [17:11] conf [17:11] ok,thanks [17:12] hello guys === second_nick is now known as Shockrates [17:13] korvin, you might be able to create an xorg.conf file : sudo ati-xconfig [17:14] i setup open driver [17:14] Any link about how to set up wireless on kubuntu 9.10? [17:14] i was here again some time ago. i did remove some libs from my system, so when i logged in i had no gui only a console. now i run (sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop), to get all missing dependancies but still when kubuntu loads i only get a konsole (where i enter credentials). what can i do? [17:14] 1 [17:14] K350 - only in russia [17:15] he there i have a problem when im watching a video on mozilla my mouse just stops working and i have to reboot .. anybody heard of this before [17:16] help someone === Shockrates is now known as Error [17:17] i was here again some time ago. i did remove some libs from my system, so when i logged in i had no gui only a console. now i run (sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop), to get all missing dependancies but still when kubuntu loads i only get a konsole (where i enter credentials). what can i do? [17:18] korvin: Russian will be fine..you've a link?:-) [17:18] 1 sec [17:19] K350: broadcom? [17:20] korvin: shto? [17:20] proizvoditel wi fi kartochki. Broadcom? [17:23] ne mogu seichas govorit, zovut uzhinat. Poshli mne pozhaluista link v privat [17:24] stoy [17:24] K350: tebe drova postavit' ili nastroit'? [17:26] hi all [17:26] I want to use rt61pci in kubuntu 9.10 [17:26] I try to compile kerenel with the driver, but I got kernel panic [17:27] on vfs mount , any idea? [17:29] éj orhei [17:29] sorry [17:32] guys i deleted some libs which i replaced now. [17:32] and gui cant start [17:32] i did install kubuntu-desktop but startx command says xinit is missing or something like this ( no screen found) [17:32] what can i do [17:36] Err0r: use login manager? kdm [17:37] what comand [17:37] command [17:37] should i run? [17:38] kdm is already running [17:38] maybe /etc/init.d/kdm start [17:38] restart then [17:39] jwx : when i run startx , it says failed to load nvidia kernel module, no drivers found [17:39] so maybe i remove or something happend to my nvidia drivers [17:39] how can i fix it? [17:39] by commandline? [17:41] Err0r: using nvidia driver versrion 185 here, maybe you can install that [17:41] yeah [17:41] how [17:41] whats the command [17:41] i have only access to tty1 [17:42] Hello everybody! [17:43] I was looking for some help installing a usb wifi card via modprobe&etc... can I ask here for some help? [17:44] Err0r: maybe sudo apt-get install nvidia-185-modaliases nvidia-glx-185 [17:44] jwx : it appears all gpu drivers are missing cause it says cant connect to x server [17:44] will this be ok? [17:44] it appears i am missing the generic gpu driver too [17:45] is there a repair function in the livecd of kubuntu? [17:45] or whats the command to install what default tool i am missing [17:45] like this generic driver [17:45] Err0r: sorry don't have answers to your questions.. there is also text browsers lynx, links etc if you want to research the web [17:46] Err0r: to use the default driver (e.g. NV) just move /etc/X11/xorg.conf away and reboot === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:47] ok [17:48] Err0r: after that remove all nvidia drivers (but not the *-modaiases packages) and try to install the driver again [17:48] done [17:49] yofel : i removed xorg.conf [17:49] ok [17:49] yofel : how do i remove the rest of nvidia drivers [17:53] yofel :? [17:54] здрасте [17:54] Err0r: check in your package manager which version you have installed and remove (for example) nvidia-glx-185 nvidia-185-kernel-source [17:55] yofel :ok [17:55] здрасте гаварю [17:55] ты на инглиш канале [17:56] yofel : but there is a problem now, when i try to login (i have gui screen) X server restarts and i get back to the login screen (this happens if i choose kde and failsafe) [17:56] а где русский ? [17:56] o.O [17:56] #kubuntu.ru [17:56] Err0r: something useful in Xorg.0.log why it fails? [17:57] спс [17:57] sorry gays ;) [17:58] BluesKaj: hey buddy i m nt able to solve the problem by ur -phigh method. [17:59] thats because dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg hasnt done squat since about gutsy [17:59] maco: waat dude ..? [17:59] im guessing thats what youre talking about [18:00] people still recommend that command even though it hasnt been useful in a bit over a year [18:00] what's -phigh supposed to do anyway? [18:00] maco: actually my DUI comes for some times in 1280*1024 res.but after 5 secs..it goes outaa range .. [18:00] yofel : Xorg.0.log not such file or directory [18:00] yofel: limit it to high-priority questions only [18:00] maco: so wat should i use to solve it .. [18:00] yofel : or what [18:00] Err0r: uups, sry, I meant /var/log/Xorg.0.log [18:00] wait [18:01] DUI? i didnt know traffic violations had resolutions... [18:01] maco: ah, thx [18:01] maco: hey u thr. [18:01] aye [18:02] but i havent had to fiddle with xorg.conf in a long time...my driver actually works ;-) [18:02] maco: so wat should i do to get back my maximum resolution(1280*1024) [18:02] what driver? [18:02] maco: my driver worked good as well before ..nvidia version 185 for nvidia Geforce6100. [18:02] hey, is there in Karmic that new notification system - notify-osd? [18:03] mck182: notify-osd is for gnome [18:03] it can be used in kubuntu [18:03] yofel: yeah, but it was supposed to be ported to qt [18:03] right click the system tray and there are settings to decide if you use knotify or notify-osd [18:03] its not that its ported to qt, its that it uses your plasma theme [18:03] maco: and how well does it work? [18:03] and i prefer it now because it only shows 2 notification at a time [18:03] yofel : i found 3 entries of, failed to initialize GLX extension (compatible nvidia X DRIVER not found) and 1 of XKB: no components provided for device virtual core keyboard [18:04] perhaps any screenshots? [18:04] knotify still cant queue, so it'll over your whole screen [18:04] ah, so that's what 'ayatana notifications' is supposed to mean... [18:04] yofel: yes [18:04] maco: nvidia version 185 for nvidia Geforce6100. [18:04] kubunter: i dont know much about nvidia... [18:04] kubunter: do you have that resolution listed in your xorg.conf? [18:04] BluesKaj: yaa i did it [18:04] (i havent done xorg.conf stuff in nearly 2 years, so....) [18:05] maco: byee [18:05] Err0r: huh? did you really delete your xorg.conf? [18:05] Hey guys! Any way to check how much bandwidth wine uses? [18:05] yofel : yes [18:06] i did it 2 times, the second it says cant find it [18:06] hm, did you reboot? removed the nvidia driver? [18:07] i rebooted [18:07] removed the nvidia driver dont know how to do this [18:07] 'suod aptitude purge nvidia-glx-185' [18:07] *sudo [18:10] yofel : i downloaded and installed 190 driver from their site [18:10] urgh [18:10] ok, lets see... [18:11] How do I get debug symbols for k9copy? [18:11] hail room, just a quick question... my windows computer can't seem to get permission to use samba resources, no matter what i do. Anyone have any ideas? I've asked in the #samba room, but no one's talkin ;) [18:13] Version: [18:13] [18:13] 185.18.36 [18:13] Err0r: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [18:13] what can i do? [18:13] sudo aptitude purge nvidia*? [18:14] Err0r: did you install some .bin file? [18:14] iirc the driver from the nvidia site comes in a *.bin file [18:16] How do I get the newest version of WINE for Kubuntu 9.10? [18:18] tdn: the newest official one is the wine1.2 package [18:18] yofel : yes it was a bin file which i run with sh [18:19] Err0r: then I don't know how to remove it, haven't used those for quite a while [18:19] any other nvidia users here? [18:20] yofel: me [18:21] Sqyber: an idea how to remove the nvidia-site drivers? [18:22] nope, i've never tried it [18:22] hi, how can I put the computer and home folder icons on the desktop in kde4? [18:23] Err0r: well, you could try to ask in #ubuntu if somebody can help you there, driver issues don't have anything to do with kde [18:23] how can i check how much bandwidth wine (or another program) uses? [18:23] you'll get a wider audience there [18:24] Hercooles: tried the 'Folder View' widget? [18:25] Hercooles: or if you use lancelot menu you can simply drag them to desktop [18:25] 20:24:54 | sh NVIDIA*.run --unisntall [18:25] 20:25:11 | *bin [18:26] ah, good to know :) [18:26] Sqyber: ok, i try it [18:26] o.O [18:31] Where can I get koffice 2.1 from [18:31] hmm, it shows the files from the folder [18:31] I want only two icons [18:36] hi [18:37] hi slow-motion [18:37] hi kubunter [18:38] 0:38:21 | it says [18:38] 20:38:23 | cant open [18:38] 20:38:30 | sh: cant open nvidia... [18:43] i just tried to install kubuntu, but when it got to disc partitioning, it got to 47%, told me that gnu has issues with 2048 size hard drives or something, and then froze there [18:44] Hi [18:47] turkçe bilen varmı yaaaaa [18:48] hello! [18:48] ubuntuda ilk kullanıcı olarak fazla bilgim yok da [18:48] English please [18:48] hello everybody! [18:49] Hi [18:49] how are you galvatron? :P [18:50] W porzadku [18:50] ??? [18:50] Sorry, your not Polish? I thought so from your nick [18:50] Anyway [18:51] IS THERE A WAY TO GO BACK TO MY DEFAULT GENERIC GPU DRIVER? [18:52] I have a strange problem with Kubuntu 9.10. I run it with Compiz-Fusion od Radeon 9200SE (opnen drivers). Today it freezes/hangs like crazy. I suspect somo problems with KDE/Plasma, X-server or drivers. [18:54] Just recently I enbled DRI2 beacause of X-server instability (crashes with some Compiz effects) [18:57] Err0r: caps is on [19:04] Hello === hfsdo_ is now known as hfsdo [19:05] I have some doubts regarding USB-creator [19:05] Err0r: as you see we're all out of ideas, did you try in #nvidia ? [19:06] If I create a swap partition on somewhere else than the usb pendrive where I want to install ubuntu, will the the system find and use it? [19:07] Does anyone know why koffice's ppa hasn't been updated it's still at beta 2 [19:09] inma: I think you will have to create the entry in the fstab [19:10] Ask Koffeine developers [19:10] Yesterday it crashed my X === yug is now known as xyz321 [19:12] inma: You may need to list it in your fstab, but yes. [19:12] Err0r: edit xorg.conf [19:13] apparle, jhutchins, what if I pulg the USB pendrive into different computers, every one of them with the swap partitions in different places? Should I add every location of the swap partition of every computer? [19:13] *plug [19:14] No I don't think that is good...... do you desperately want the swap.... becoz you can do without swap also [19:19] apparle: one of the system has only 128 mb ram, would I need the swap in that case? [19:19] Does anyone know why koffice's ppa hasn't been updated, it's still at beta 2 [19:20] hmm ok i got a problem my firefox doesnt load apt:program links [19:20] hey does anyone know how to import data from an xml file to OppenOffice Spreadshit? Or, altearnatively how to write an excell file from c++? [19:20] it tells me no programm to handle apt protocol [19:20] inma: Then I dunno what to do === william is now known as Guest70707 [19:21] Hey guys I'm in a lot of trouble here, my USB drives and CDrom don't work, at first my USB keyboard & mouse didn't either but I fixed them in Xorg. I think it might be related to this error after I upgraded Kubuntu Karmic: hald[1108]: segfault at 0 ip 0000000000410e70 sp 00007fff4b74b470 error 4 in hald[400000+56000] === maco_ is now known as maco [19:22] I'm trying to get the right flash plugin for this site, it works on W7 - 64bit , but not on kubuntu karmic 64bit using FF : http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows/The_Ron_James_Show/ID=1314389836 [19:25] BluesJak: doesnt work for me in either FF or Chrome, try a Vbox [19:25] Hey blues, just get the flashplugin-nonfree package [19:25] Can anyone help with my drivers issue, I'm in a lot of trouble here! [19:26] markhole, I have it , does the site work for you ? [19:27] daverag, what HW drivers ? [19:27] BluesKaj, i thought it did, but actually trying to use it is a bit janky. [19:28] markhole, which browser ? [19:28] BluesKaj, ff3.5.4 [19:28] inma: Some setups will automatically detect and use swap partitions and/or swap files. I think knoppix will, but won't automatically use them, although you can make that the default. [19:29] I'm on 64 bit , that's prolly why the site won't play [19:29] inma: You should probably look at some dedicated USB setups and see how they're configured. It would be better to start with a live CD setup than a standard HD install. [19:29] Well I'm not sure it's the drivers, but ALL my USB drives don't work, my cdrom either and before I had no keyboard or mouse, but I fixed it with xorg by adding the line Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" in xorg.conf [19:30] I dmesg gives me a segfault for hald so I'm pretty it's the cause [19:31] jhutchins: it's not an hd install, is a usb install using ubuntu's USB-creator utility. Once I make it, and then load it, how can I see what swap partition will it use in case of need? === administrator is now known as Guest75820 [19:35] hi all [19:36] can I load script after ubuntu load? [19:36] IS THERE A WAY TO GO BACK TO MY DEFAULT GENERIC GPU DRIVER? [19:36] =0 [19:39] drcode? you there? [19:39] Err0r: Can you plz tell you error again... I wasn't there [19:42] my Err0r is i cant switch back to my generic gpu driver (my nvidia one is broken, which i installed from their website) [19:43] i deleted xorg.conf too [19:43] Err0r: did you try installing the one from repositories [19:44] is there any way for me to rearrange parts of file names systematically? I.e., I have files htat startl ike 1x01, 1x02, and want to rename them 01x1, 02x1, etc? [19:46] woot [19:47] apparle : no i have the .run one which i installed with sh from their site [19:47] the missus has seen kubuntu in action on my machine and is now defragging hers so i can dualboot it with her windows [19:49] in kmail, when attempting to open a pgp encrypted email, I cannot - I get an error "You have just entered an invalid passphrase" even though it never asked me for a passphrase. Anyone have any ideas? [19:52] Err0r: Sorry for disconnecting [19:52] Err0r: Which GRU do you have [19:52] waw, ubuntu's keyserver is really slow [19:52] apparle : my gpu is nvidia 9600m gt [19:54] anybody got idea why firefox's sounds aren't working (kubuntu 9,10) ? [19:54] Sqyber: you mean flash sound are not working [19:54] !nvidia [19:54] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [19:54] apparle: yep [19:55] Err0r: currently are you in GUi or CLI [19:57] Err0r: you need to install nvidia-glx-185 === costin is now known as Tupac_Shakur [19:59] hi [20:01] howdy [20:01] Err0r: you there? === miikka is now known as Menttooli [20:06] Sqyber: pulseaudio? [20:07] hi guys, i'm a novice, and what i did was, converted a ubuntu to kde-deaktop by installing the package from synaptic and at the time of installation i have left the default desktop gdm, expecting to change the option on my next logon, but unfortunately i couldn't find the options on login screen.is there anyway i could enable the options on login screen. why is it missing? [20:07] jhutchins: might be (i got no idea seriously) :) [20:07] rainbow007: or as I suggested use KDM instead, plus it looks a lot nicer than GDM 2 :) [20:07] 22:05:53 | yes [20:07] 22:05:56 | i have cli [20:07] 22:06:03 | gui doesnt work [20:07] 22:06:22 | (0nly login manager works and when i try to login x server restarts and sends me back to the login) [20:07] rainbow007: that's easy to change to KDM [20:07] second_nick: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [20:08] here === FireCrotch_ is now known as FireCrotch === second_nick is now known as Error [20:08] me [20:08] apparle [20:08] rainbow007: by the way since your new GDM = Gnome Display Manager KDM is KDE Display Manager [20:08] sebsebseb: hi shockrates here [20:08] :D [20:08] Error: So you are in GUI or CLLI [20:09] gli [20:09] cli [20:09] 22:05:53 | yes [20:09] 22:05:56 | i have cli [20:09] 22:06:03 | gui doesnt work [20:09] Error: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [20:09] 22:06:22 | (0nly login manager works and when i try to login x server restarts and sends me back to the login) [20:09] rainbow007: do you have your home dir on a different hdd? [20:09] Error: The troll? [20:09] no [20:10] rainbow007: do you dual boot with windows? [20:10] sebsebseb : yes [20:10] sebsebseb : how are you my friend? [20:10] vitamin-carrot:no i have installed it on vmware workstation . [20:10] Error: Are you still banned from the network? [20:10] Error: install the packate 'nvidia-glx-185' [20:10] sebsebseb : never was [20:10] I thought you were [20:10] rainbow007: do you have alot in your Home dir? [20:10] apparle : thanks [20:11] rainbow007: my guess is you want to keep gnome but have the option to try kde right? [20:11] but i havent removed my .run driver of nvidia [20:11] apparle [20:11] completely just removed xorg [20:11] Error: you can use the command 'sudo apt-get update nvidia-glx-185' and lets see if problem is fixed.... then we will see the thaks [20:11] vitamin-carrot:exactly correct. [20:11] Error: just a minute [20:12] rainbow007: All you need to do to be able to log in to both probably, and to have a much nicer looking log in screen, is log into Ubuntu open the terminal. or synaptic if you like. remove GDM sudo apt-get purge GDM that does some config files or whatever as well not just GDM sudo apt-get install KDM and done. There is probably a better way to switch between GDM and KDM though. [20:12] rainbow007: you may need to unistall KDE and then retry [20:13] rainbow007: that way you still have gnome [20:13] !purgenome | rainbow007 [20:13] Sorry, I don't know anything about purgenome [20:13] !puregnome | rainbow007 [20:13] rainbow007: If you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 kdelibs5-data && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » into a !terminal [20:13] sebsebseb: thank you darling [20:14] rainbow007: so im guessing that KDE isnt showing in the sessions options on the logon screen [20:15] rainbow007: but it is just a guess [20:15] vitamin-carrot:you are right [20:15] i like turtles [20:15] vitamin-carrot: I am not that keen on being called darling, but if your a woman/girl I guess well ok then [20:16] Error: did you try restarting after you removed xorg.conf? [20:16] vitamin-carrot:on the login screen i don't even see 'options' at all [20:16] sebsebseb: oh sorry "bro" I call everyone darling [20:17] rainbow007: what the .... arent they usually in the bottom left hand cornor? [20:17] vitamin-carrot: used to be like that [20:17] rainbow007: or has that changed in Karmic [20:17] vitamin-carrot: GDM 2 is a bit uh [20:17] brb need a smoke [20:18] vitamin-carrot:i don't see anything on bottom left hand cornor. unfortunately even before the kde-desktop installation [20:18] rainbow007: any data in Home? [20:18] vitamin-carrot:i'm running the latest ubuntu [20:18] rainbow007: hmmmmmmmmmm [20:18] my amarok went stupid and lost all of my music and wont re-install them....from my home dir. anyone else having issues like this? [20:18] rainbow007: You sure you want to do KDE instead of Gnome? [20:18] rainbow007: ima have to install ubuntu9.10 on a VM i have not played with it as i decided to come over to Kubuntu [20:18] sebsebseb: i want to keep both of them, so that i can choose [20:18] rainbow007: by the way you can run most KDE apps inside Gnome, just like most Gnome apps can be run inside KDE [20:19] rainbow007: there's also xubuntu by the way [20:19] XFCE [20:19] and lxde [20:19] yep and that [20:19] rainbow007: but i figure seeing as gnome is you primadry gui then your should remove KDE and give it another try === RussellAlan is now known as eGin [20:19] and many others [20:20] lxde is light weight like xfce but i think its not as light. [20:20] sebsebseb: i know xubuntu [20:20] sebsebseb:but why the options is missing from the latest version of ubuntu v9.10?any idea? === paul___ is now known as PAR [20:20] rainbow007: the optons should be there [20:20] although i have to admit i like the xfce4 over the 3. [20:20] it's just the new GDM 2 sucks [20:21] sebsebseb:i don't see options mate [20:21] rainbow007: the old GDM was great, for users, developers well they had un clean code [20:21] rainbow007: Is there any data on your install yet? [20:21] sebsebseb:no [20:21] rainbow007: When you installed last time what did you do? [20:21] i have so many of the files for kde and gnome that when my computer boots up it shows the kde splash screen then switches to the gnome splash screen..lol [20:22] sebsebseb:normal installation from the bootup disk on vmware workstation [20:22] hmm [20:22] brb smoke time [20:22] your running Ubuntu in a vm? [20:22] sebsebseb:everything seems fine. no errors [20:22] yes [20:22] rainbow007: hmm I ddin't reolize that [20:22] well [20:23] really it should be your host OS :) the one properly installed onto your hard disk [20:23] why mess around with a vm, just download the Kubuntu CD and install that into a vm, or as your host OS [20:23] and then if you want Gnome inside it as well sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop === philippe is now known as Guest11834 [20:24] is there any way for me to rearrange parts of file names? I.e., I have files that start like 1x01, 1x02, and want to rename them 01x1, 02x1, etc? [20:24] i_is_broke: I assume you mean it loads up saying Kubuntu, but then you get GDM [20:24] sebsebseb: i could download that.but i don't know some reason ubuntu missing options on left hand cornor [20:24] if you installed Kubuntu after Ubuntu well then yes it will say Kubuntu is loading up and shutting down, unless you change that [20:25] sebsebseb, no it actually shows both splash screens. [20:25] sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm <-- to change your login screen between gnome & kde's [20:25] for xsplash....i'm not sure [20:26] rainbow007: since your doing vm's at the moment, you might want to vm Ubuntu 9.04 as well, then you can see the old log in screen, the one that can be themed and such. Then you get an idea of the changes between the two. Ok not realy useful for fixing your issue, but at least this way, you find out a bit more about the software. [20:26] sebsebseb: i didn't chnage anything [20:26] rainbow007: GDM 2 (Gnome Display Manager) is actsaully one reason I am keeping the other computer on 9.04, untill 10.04 has been released [20:26] since the old version is :) it seems when I do 10.04 on there I will end up using KDM instead [20:27] rainbow007: Maybe you haven't been following me so far since your new, there are differnet log in screens [20:27] Desktop Linux is all about choice, choice for nearly every type of program you can think of [20:28] sebsebseb:thanks for the advise. at least that would help me.i know what you mean, thanks a lot. [20:28] vitamin-carrot:thanks a lot for trying to help me [20:29] rainbow007: thats cool dude ... ive only been using ubuntu since gutsy [20:29] vitamin-carrot: second release in 2005 for me, with Fedora Core 2 and 4 before it, started using Desktop Linux in 2004 [20:29] rainbow007: im so novice i forgot that vbox only runs 32bit OS's [20:30] lol [20:30] thanks a guys. its my first chat in this forum and you people or awesome. [20:30] FC2 the one I just installed, Knoppix, Gnooppix, and Morphix Live CD's later on etc [20:31] rainbow007: Newer is not always better! With Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu it's not about what is the latest version, it's about what is still supported by security updates. [20:32] vmware workstation allows 64bit OS's yes? [20:32] sebsebseb:i will download 9.04 and install it.thanks a lot mate.i'm really pleased for the response. [20:32] sometimes a new version of a program isn't good for a particular user, GDM 2 for example when it comes to me. [20:32] rainbow007: I didn't say to put 9.04 on as your host [20:32] I just said you might want to try it in a vm [20:33] also if you install Kubuntu rather than Ubuntu, you will get KDM not GDM 2 by default :) [20:33] sebsebseb:i'm going to try it in a vm. what is the best one? [20:33] rainbow007: then if you want Ubuntu/Gnome as well you can install it, and it will probably say that Ubuntu is loading up and shutting down rather than Kubuntu, but that can also be changed [20:33] rainbow007: The best Ubuntu you mean? [20:34] yes [20:35] sebsebseb: if i install kubuntu, can i switch between ubuntu gdm and kde [20:35] ok let's make sure you understand this first what a release is, that's the number. 9.10 is the latest. Then there are differnet versions of that, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and differnet versions of that even Desktop version, server version etc. [20:35] rainbow007: GDM and KDM all they are is log in screens basicalley [20:36] your meant to be able to boot up Ubuntu or Kubuntu or Xubuntu for example, with them as long as they are installed [20:36] sebsebseb:will there be options on the left hand cornor, so that i can choose [20:37] some log in screen's are better than others depending on a user and what they want, just like for some users Ubuntu is better than Kubuntu or Kubuntu is better than Ubuntu, depending on the user and what they want [20:37] !best [20:37] Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots. [20:37] rainbow007: yes on KDM there is [20:37] brb installing kubuntu on the missus's machine [20:37] with Ubuntu 9.04 on the old GDM there is, as for GDM 2 it's a bit differnet [20:39] rainbow007: I like the old GDM and not GDM 2, so I'll use KDM now. In my opinion KDM is now much better than GDM 2. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter which one you use, as long as you can load up what you want to load from it, Ubuntu or Kubuntu or Xubuntu or whatever you got installed [20:39] sebsebseb: how do you change the option to boot to different derivatives(xubuntu,ubuntu,kubuntu) [20:40] the log in screen is meant to let you do that, once you have them installed [20:40] Hi all, using kubuntu, trying to write a rule to run 'xmodmap' when I insert a usb mouse. Currently I've got the rule calling a shell script, but xmodmap doesn't seem to be executing. Prob doing something stupid.. any thoughts or a better place to ask? [20:40] rainbow007: personalley I like KDE 3 which you can't just have in 9.10, one reason I will virtual machine the 9.10 version [20:41] sebsebseb:so logging into the different derivatives gives different user experience? interms of look and feel , programs/applications e.t.c? === thrz is now known as thrz|away [20:41] KDE 3 is an older version of KDE that has been used for years, KDE 4 which is used in Kubuntu 9.10 is pretty new really, as I said before Desktop Linux is very much about choice [20:42] rainbow007: basicalley yeah [20:42] Gnome and KDE are the two most popular desktop environments with XFCE in third place [20:43] what version of kubuntu is good to test on vm? [20:43] so that's the way it looks, and quite a lot of programs as well, then there are also window managers which are just a graphical user interface such as Fluxbox for example [20:43] if you have differnet ones installed onot the same install, your meant to select them from the log in screen, and decide which one to use [20:45] rainbow007: Most Linux distros Linux distributions http://www.distrowatch.com that many people use today, will run Gnome or KDE by default [20:46] I suggested earlier to vm Kubuntu 9.10 since your doing vm's anyway, so you have then tried both Ubuntu and Kubuntu 9.10 [20:46] sebsebseb:good.very good explanation mate.which version of kubuntu you like for testing, so that one can choose all 3 of them installed and tested by logging into them different one's [20:46] Then really ideally I think you should probably pick one to install onto your computer for real onto the hard disk. Then if you want to use the other you can install that as well yes. [20:47] I don't like KDE 4 personalley as a desktop envrionement GUI and all that [20:47] sebsebseb:would kubuntu 9.10 allow me to switch between all 3 derivatives (ubuntu,xbuntu and kbuntu) [20:47] I do however like some of the KDE apps the Konversation IRC client for example, which I run inside Gnome [20:47] it used to be the KDE 3 version, but now it's the KDE 4 version [20:48] rainbow007: if they are installed yes, but that's a bit like dual booting switching to another one from the log in screen, so that's a bit sucky realy [20:49] What I personalley would do is this, put on a distro that I am happy enough to have as my host OS, Ubuntu 9.10 for example, and then virtual machine anything else that I want to do, Kubuntu KDE 3 version, Windows even [20:49] and well you know vm's it's basically running two or more OS's at once, or in this case desktop environments if for example you run KDE inside Gnome, or Gnome inside KDE [20:50] sebsebseb:thats a great help.i don't really do that in rpoduction .but for testing and more over learning wi need to do. [20:51] and all with no risk to the host [20:51] yep [20:52] this help is more than microsoft's technical support team. i'm really pleased guys [20:52] lol just waiting for the install to finish on the gf's machine [20:52] shes all excited and stuff [20:52] rainbow007: well there is a Windows channel on this network as well [20:52] ,but not run by Microsoft [20:52] ohhh.great to know [20:53] ,but yes Ubuntu and Kubuntu have a lot of good community support [20:53] once again thanks a lot guys. good bye [20:53] ok no problem [20:53] hopefuly your running a proper install soon [20:54] installed onto your hard disk [20:54] :) [20:54] definitely.i will rung kubuntu as host and the vista or windows 7.0 as vm. [20:54] best of luck rainbow007 [20:54] does it support windows 7.0 [20:55] as vm === thrz|away is now known as thrz [20:55] vitamin-carrot:thanks mate [20:55] sebsebseb:can i run windows 7 as a vm on kubuntu [20:56] if you have vmworkstatioon i dont see why not [20:57] * vitamin-carrot picks his nose [20:57] vitamin-carrot:thanks a lot. [20:57] good bye. have a nice day guys [21:02] selam [21:02] :S [21:02] hi (: [21:03] #ubuntu-tr [21:03] join #ubuntu-tr [21:03] :S [21:04] harmankaya: if you are trying to join #ubuntu-tr and use '/joing #ubuntu-tr' === eGin is now known as Gineering [21:05] or rather '/join #ubuntu-tr' ^^ [21:05] anyone know if its possible to use the new ubuntu software center in kubuntu? [21:06] ericG: install the 'software-center' package [21:06] "/j #whatever"is enough [21:06] yofel: do you know if there are any issues with using it kubuntu? [21:07] ericG: none that I know of [21:07] thanks yofel [21:10] doesn't work for me [21:15] hi === philippe is now known as Guest79141 [21:18] right im off gotta play some unreal tounament 3 [21:18] cya === will_ is now known as wiljaxon [21:30] ,fg === mlr is now known as saxofun [21:56] hi all [21:57] I've the problem that I have no sound in firefox 3.5.4 when I play flash videos. Any ideas? [22:09] Is there anything useful I can do to diagnose kcryptd? Like, "why are you running on my system?" etc. ? [22:10] oh, nevermind. Apparently kcryptd isn't kde-related. o_O [22:12] How do I install a left handed cursor pointing to the right in kubuntu? [22:21] hello i wanna build my own HTPC using mithTV, can someone tell me what i need and what i have to do? i got a sony bravia 42 so i wanna get to its max while using a ps3 also [22:22] hi i whant to learn to use this can some one explain me plx oO? [22:24] estrato: ? === estrato is now known as estratoyes === estratoyes is now known as estrato [22:25] yes [22:25] xD? [22:25] yofel ? [22:29] olaa [22:30] algun español? [22:30] algun español? [22:31] olaa [22:31] !es | ayoze [22:31] ayoze: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [22:32] y como entro ahi? [22:33] hola === Traveler is now known as Guest96379 [22:33] hello [22:33] hello all [22:34] !hi [22:34] Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay! [22:34] !hi [22:34] Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay! === promulo1 is now known as promulo [22:35] #kubuntu [22:36] a question [22:36] kubuntu have support for hp 2133 (mininote) [22:39] who speaked spanish [22:39] !es [22:39] En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [22:40] gracias [22:40] thank you [22:40] !me [22:40] Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [22:41] ;) [22:41] "Cannot get the exclusive lock on the packaging backend. [22:41] Please close any other legacy packaging tools that may be open." [22:41] what can i do with it? [22:42] alximik: a) what application tells you that? b) do you have apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, ... open? [22:43] tyt [22:43] it means that you are trying to install/remove a package and another application already has locked the package database [22:44] what is the best alternative for Fireworks on linux? [22:44] alximik: if you can't find the application that's causing the lock see [22:44] !aptlock | alximik [22:44] alximik: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » [22:44] yofel: any application, i have just installed kubuntu and i can install nothing [22:45] alximik: tried what ubottu told you? === rudi is now known as sterre [22:51] yofel: yes, but i cant understand if updates was installed [22:52] alximik: run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to check if you have all updates installed [22:52] or check in kpackagekit if you have any === joshua__ is now known as pete__ [22:53] yofel: now i can see updates downloading... i believe it will wirk! [22:53] *work [22:54] :) [22:55] yofel: can you explain (for noobs =)) what was the reason? [22:56] alximik: not sure, but I guess at some point the application that was installing something (updates?) crashed and left /var/lib/dpkg/lock behind [22:57] that file tells other applications that they must not access the package database or it'll be corrupted [22:57] so you had to remove the file by hand [22:57] Hi [23:00] yofel: thanks you!!! [23:00] hey! why is grub beta in 9.10? [23:02] grub 2.0 [23:03] adaptr: it's 1.97~beta4 here.. maybe i did something wrong then [23:04] dunno [23:04] do you have 2.0? [23:04] rlogin.dk [23:04] bah [23:04] ii grub 0.97-29ubuntu59 GRand Unified Bootloader [23:06] right.. so one can downgrade without issues? [23:06] downgrade to what ? [23:07] grub 1.97 to 0.97 ? [23:08] you really have 1.97 ? look again... [23:09] adaptr: karmic uses grub2 by default [23:10] jwx: for 0.97 remove grub-pc and install grub [23:10] it *should* work [23:10] I never tested it [23:10] yofel: it doesn't upgrade during the dist-upgrade, then ? [23:10] because it didn't [23:10] adaptr: there was some discussion about that, I don't know how it works right now, iirc it dosn't upgrade [23:11] yofel: it has not upgraded for me [23:12] grub-install -v says grub-install (GNU GRUB 1.97~beta4).. well it's working so maybe I shouldnt change =P [23:13] jwx: do you have any issues with grub2? [23:13] and 1.97~beta4 is the official version in karmic [23:13] yofel: no just thought it was funny first thing shown when booting a new release was the text beta.. haven't had any problems with it [23:13] (the devs want it tested in real life before the lucid LTS...) [23:13] ah ok [23:14] lucid whatbeast ? [23:14] llama ? [23:14] !lts [23:14] LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Hardy (Hardy Heron 8.04). The next LTS release is scheduled to be !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04) [23:14] pity [23:25] lucid lunatic ftw! [23:27] lucid lynx doesn't inspire me [23:27] I'm not getting any temperatures from my plasma things [23:27] do I need to install a package so it recognises my cpu? [23:28] possibly "lm-sensors" (and run "sudo sensors-detect") [23:31] Guest70707, if not then open widgets and choose System Monitor - Temperature [23:38] hello [23:42] nope.... sensors-detect says no sensors were detected [23:42] odd [23:49] I need help, I'm getting no sound form amorak when I try to play an mp3 file, but there is sound from videos on youtube [23:49] did you install codec? [23:50] korvin_: how? [23:50] sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras