[00:00] <wgrant> Hm.
[00:00] <wgrant> tellurium seems unhappy.
[00:01] <wgrant> Yes, I just killed staging codehosting :(
[00:03] <wgrant> Pushed https://code.staging.launchpad.net/~wgrant/ubuntu/karmic/bzr/test-1. tellurium:22 now rejects connections, and there is a rather sinister error message on that page since the branch got scanned.
[00:14] <ajmitch> wgrant: that does look a bit worrying
[00:22] <cody-somerville> maybe we should alert a losa?
[00:27] <wgrant> staging's no production.
[00:27] <wgrant> Given how broken production codehosting got during the rollout (and the cowboys required), I'm not entirely surprised.
[00:28] <cody-somerville> mmm... it was very frustrating.
[00:49] <lifeless> thumper: http://nb.io/hacks/csshttprequest
[00:53] <wgrant> AJACSS. Nice.
[01:42] <jml> wgrant, that's a very sinister looking error message
[01:42] <lifeless> jml: hi! where are you?
[01:42] <jml> wgrant, but AIUI, the prod codehosting issues had nothing to do with dependencies.
[01:42] <jml> lifeless, in a hotel in Hong Kong
[01:42] <lifeless> jml: doing a stop over?
[01:43] <jml> lifeless, yeah. believe it or not it actually saves us money :)
[01:43] <lifeless> jml: ?!
[01:43] <lifeless> jml: hows doe that work? different carrier?
[01:43] <jml> lifeless, round-the-world ticket
[01:43] <jml> lifeless, I'm going on to Dallas after Queensland.
[01:43] <lifeless> jml: ah, going to UDS?
[01:44] <wgrant> jml: Right, it is a bit odd. Particularly because it did successfully scan the single revision in the branch.
[01:48] <lifeless> jml: so, what are you doing?
[01:49] <jml> lifeless, enjoying a post-breakfast malaise
[01:50] <jml> lifeless, my flight leaves after 10pm, so I've got a bit of time to kill, and no room to do it in.
[01:50] <lifeless> mmm
[01:51] <jml> I also should do things like prepare a launchpadlib hacking session for UDS.
[01:51] <lifeless> its the weekend
[01:51] <lifeless> you should see hong kong a bit; get hotel to care for luggage
[01:52] <lifeless> and update tribunal a bit too
[01:52] <jml> heh heh
[01:54] <wgrant> Oh *goody*. Somehow a bad version of c-i-p made it into the rollout.
[01:55] <wgrant> (Bug #476963)
[01:55] <mup> Bug #476963: UI is pretty awful <Canonical SSO provider:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/476963>
[01:57] <lifeless> wgrant: bad versions of a lot of stuff, apparently :P
[01:57] <lifeless> jml: hahaonlyserious :- be a tourist and do personal stuff too. Its *good for you*
[02:08] <jml> lifeless, sure
[02:08] <jml> lifeless, although, all things being equal I'd like to stay indoors and read :)
[02:09] <jml> how did people ever do tourist stuff before google maps and wikitravel
[02:10] <mzz> heh, you know about this ancient invention where they print a map on paper? :)
[02:11]  * mzz had fun playing tourist in prague with a bunch of people where half of them had a mobile device and none of them could get a decent gps signal, so they were all lost
[02:11] <mzz> fortunately one of us had an oldfashioned map
[02:12] <lifeless> mzz: baked it in clay
[02:15] <lifeless> jml: reading can be fun too
[02:15] <lifeless> jml: perhaps you could find a by-the-hour hotel :)
[02:24] <jml> lifeless, I'm actually in the right area of town for that
[02:25] <jml> mzz, oh, I don't have a smartphone / gps thingy.
[02:26] <jml> mzz, I consult maps before I head with nothing but my memory and a misplaced confidence in my own abilities to navigate
[02:26] <mzz> sounds like a plan
[02:26] <mzz> (I don't have one of those either, but I know I'd be overusing it if I did)
[02:28] <lifeless> jml: its a canonical tradition to be in the right area of town
[02:29] <jml> lifeless, heh
[02:29] <jml> lifeless, I seriously doubt Mooloolaba has such an area
[02:30] <lifeless> jml: its the sunshine coast.... it *is* such an area
[02:30] <jml> naaah
[02:30] <jml> gold coast, maybe
[04:19]  * sinzui starts to fix barry's damage
[10:07]  * wgrant prepares a few sed branches :(
[10:54] <maxb> Does anyone know for any documentation of process for how we manage non-PQM-ed projects?
[10:54] <maxb> I'm hoping to crib it as I write guidelines on how to make changes to meta-lp-deps
[10:55] <wgrant> Given some of the things I've seen done, I'm not sure there are any.
[14:17] <nhandler_> Is something gong on with the LP servers? I am not able to get the rocketfuel-setup script using the command on dev.launchpad.net
[20:18] <thumper> hmm...
[20:18] <thumper> listening to a talk on deliverance
[20:19] <thumper> seems very interesting
[20:31] <janklopper> Hi, quick (hopefully) question
[20:31] <janklopper> can launchpad run on debian?
[20:34] <lifeless> probably
[20:34] <lifeless> thumper: repoze.org looks interesting :)
[20:35] <thumper> lifeless: I haven't looked at it yet
[20:35]  * thumper seconds lifeless's probably for killercow
[20:38] <lifeless> http://zedshaw.com/blog/2009-11-6.html <- 1-5 ratings suck
[20:40]  * thumper looks
[20:46] <killercow> ill go and try it out next week then
[20:46] <killercow> can't be too hard, if all the deps check out
[20:47] <lifeless> :P
[20:47] <lifeless> are you going to hack on it, or do you want to deploy it somewhere?
[20:49] <killercow> deploy it locally, then hack our unittesting and linting frameworks in there
[20:50]  * lifeless perks up at unittesting
[20:50] <lifeless> what framework do you use?
[20:50] <killercow> brb, gotta pick someone up
[20:51] <killercow> lifeless: a couple, one for each language :P
[20:51] <thumper> lifeless: he obviously doesn't want to talk to you :)
[20:51] <thumper> gah, beaten to Enter yet again
[20:51] <lifeless> killercow: how do they tie to launchpad, for you? [and have you heard of subunit ;)]
[20:51] <lifeless> thumper: you're getting slow in your old age
[20:51] <thumper> yeah
[20:52] <ajmitch> it's the comfy couch that's slowing him down
[20:52] <thumper> there is space next to me now :)
[20:52] <lifeless> I've got my legs up and direct view on the project though
[20:53] <lifeless> projector
[21:15] <killercow> back :)
[21:16] <killercow> lifeless: haven't heard of it
[21:17] <killercow> our project does linting for various languages and displays stuffs the results in the database
[21:18] <killercow> so, it adds linting + unittesting + "accountability" based on the repository changes
[21:28] <lifeless> interesting
[21:31] <wgrant> killercow: I was able to run LP on Lenny by convincing rocketfuel-get that it was actually running on Hardy (so it used the right PPA).
[21:31] <killercow> hmm, sounds good enough
[21:31] <wgrant> But I also had to manually grab a couple of extra packages like ubuntu-keyring and something else that I forget.
[21:31] <killercow> will probably want to try this in a vm anyway
[21:31] <wgrant> I meant to write proper instructions, but Karmic's KVM sucked and corrupted my disk image at that point.
[21:31] <killercow> so I can hose the env and go back if needed
[21:33]  * wgrant tries again.