| virtuald | someone have to make unsubscribing from bugs by email possible, it's annoying to different other people trying all the time | 01:23 |
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| virtuald | to see different people trying to unsubscribe by email* | 01:24 |
| virtuald | or maybe gmail just showed me a bunch of old emails i thought i had deleted | 01:28 |
| PATX | why are the blue print "white boards" called that? i see no resemblance... | 02:45 |
| wgrant | PATX: It's a thing you scribble notes on. | 02:49 |
| PATX | ah | 02:49 |
| PATX | now i sees | 02:49 |
| exarkun | Service Temporarily Unavailable | 03:16 |
| exarkun | The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. | 03:17 |
| lifeless | is that on bazaar.launchpad.net ? | 03:18 |
| lifeless | if so, hit f5 | 03:18 |
| lifeless | or ctrl-r or your fav thing for that | 03:18 |
| exarkun | It is apparently on help.ubuntu.com | 03:18 |
| exarkun | Not that I have any interest at all in being on help.ubuntu.com | 03:19 |
| lifeless | indeed | 03:19 |
| lifeless | let me see | 03:19 |
| exarkun | But that's one of the places I have to go if I want to report a bug against Ubuntu these days, isn't it | 03:19 |
| exarkun | Man I get grumpy so easily. | 03:19 |
| lifeless | if you're not using 'ubuntu-bug', and didn't bookmark the workaround for non bug-control folk, yes. | 03:19 |
| lifeless | ok, something is naffed | 03:20 |
| wgrant | It's slow, but working, for me. | 03:21 |
| exarkun | Another 503 here. | 03:21 |
| lifeless | wgrant: 503 for ajmitch here; very slow for me | 03:21 |
| exarkun | I'll run report-bug, maybe. | 03:22 |
| lifeless | I've asked in our is channel, will phone if noone answers shortly | 03:22 |
| lifeless | launchpad itself i s ok | 03:22 |
| exarkun | Wow, it's not even installed. | 03:22 |
| wgrant | exarkun: ubuntu-bug. | 03:22 |
| exarkun | Ah | 03:22 |
| lifeless | report-bug goes to debian, and for added hilarity we didn't reuse the command line name | 03:22 |
| * exarkun boggles at the initial choice presented. | 03:22 | |
| wgrant | reportbug is still useful for reporting bugs to Debian. | 03:23 |
| wgrant | exarkun: You probably want 'ubuntu-bug somepackage' | 03:23 |
| exarkun | Yea, got it now. Thanks. | 03:23 |
| exarkun | Oh no. | 03:23 |
| exarkun | It stole focus right when I tried to hit return to send that message. | 03:23 |
| exarkun | So I told it to do something, but I don't know what. | 03:23 |
| exarkun | Hooray for focus stealing applications, they're the most best. | 03:24 |
| wgrant | File that focus-stealing bug with 'ubuntu-bug apport' :P | 03:24 |
| lifeless | wgrant: no its not, it mails ubuntu-bugs | 03:25 |
| lifeless | wgrant: bts is useful | 03:25 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Not if you tell it to send to Debian instead. | 03:25 |
| lifeless | wgrant: we could still divert, honour the option and pass through | 03:25 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Perhaps. But it seems impolite to steal a name for a different tool. | 03:26 |
| wgrant | It has very few similarities. | 03:26 |
| lifeless | wgrant: the tool name is generic, for a generic platform local purpose | 03:26 |
| lifeless | wgrant: it would be like stealing the name 'cc' for the default compiler. | 03:27 |
| lifeless | that is, totally normal. | 03:27 |
| wgrant | lifeless: C compilers take vaguely similar arguments and behave very similarly. | 03:27 |
| wgrant | ubuntu-bug and reportbug do not. | 03:27 |
| lifeless | very few options are similar, and the behaviour varies wildly; the overall goal is the same. | 03:28 |
| lifeless | now, which case am I describing? | 03:28 |
| exarkun | "ubuntu-bug apport" doesn't seem to be viable | 03:28 |
| wgrant | exarkun: What do you mean? | 03:28 |
| exarkun | It offers to send several crash reports to the developers. My options are to let it or to exit. | 03:28 |
| exarkun | But the crash reports have nothing to do with the apport bug I want to file. | 03:28 |
| lifeless | exarkun: really? | 03:29 |
| lifeless | the wiki seems happy again now | 03:29 |
| exarkun | Very really. | 03:29 |
| lifeless | sounds like you have two bugs to file | 03:30 |
| exarkun | I guess I could let it send the crash reports and then say "psych, the bug is really..." | 03:30 |
| wgrant | 'ubuntu-bug apport' works fine for me. | 03:30 |
| exarkun | wgrant: Maybe it behaves differently in the absence of crash logs? | 03:30 |
| * exarkun starts writing down the bug report stack so he doesn't miss anything | 03:31 | |
| mzz | heh, I went to a similar drill a little while ago, including launchpad oopsing on one of my crash reports | 03:31 |
| mzz | it was fun! I think I was up to 4 reports by the time I was done | 03:32 |
| exarkun | Ah, I think "ubuntu-bug apport" doesn't really do anything special | 03:36 |
| exarkun | The send crash report dialog that confused me must be the one that I unintentionally instantly dismissed when I ran "ubuntu-bug firefox" | 03:36 |
| pwolanin | fyi, https://help.launchpad.net/ seems to be down or borked | 03:54 |
| pwolanin | I get 502 or 503 responses | 03:54 |
| rdb | what's the correct way to have a package be built for multiple distributions (hardy, jaunty, karmic etc) | 10:54 |
| maxb | rdb: It requires separate sourceful uploads with different version numbers targetted at each | 11:31 |
| rdb | maxb, hrm, that sounds terribly clumsy | 11:31 |
| maxb | rdb: Well, fundamentally, you're doing multiple builds, which requires the allocation of multiple different version numbers. | 11:32 |
| rdb | so, e.g. version 2.3-1 in hardy, 2.3-2 in intrepid, etc | 11:32 |
| rdb | like that? | 11:32 |
| maxb | rdb: It's clearer IMO if you, e.g. upload 2.3-1 to karmic, and then model the earlier series as backports: 2.3-1~jaunty1, 2.3-1~hardy1 | 11:33 |
| rdb | copying a package with "rebuild" option doesn't seem to work | 11:33 |
| rdb | maxb, ah, k - thanks for the info | 11:33 |
| maxb | yes, because you're effectively asking it to rebuild the same version, and it won't let you overwrite the previous binaries | 11:33 |
| rdb | ah | 11:34 |
| rdb | so they are stored as the same .deb in the pool? | 11:34 |
| maxb | rdb: another advantage of that style of version numbering is that if the build breaks on an older series, you can fix it up with e.g. a ~hardy2 upload | 11:34 |
| rdb | ah | 11:34 |
| rdb | excellent, thanks | 11:34 |
| rdb | so I'll just dput the karmic version, change the changelog entry, debuild and dput it again, change it again, etc | 11:34 |
| rdb | ? | 11:35 |
| maxb | the pool filenames are determined by ("ubuntu", "main", package, version, architecture) - there's no series involved | 11:36 |
| maxb | rdb: right, and if you want to save some upload time, you don't need to upload the .orig tarball more than once | 11:36 |
| rdb | ah, k. thanks for your help! | 11:36 |
| maxb | So you might like to debuild the subsequent builds with -sd | 11:36 |
| rdb | debuild automatically exludes the orig.tar.gz if it already has been uploaded, afaik | 11:37 |
| rdb | then it just makes a diff | 11:37 |
| wgrant | There are good reasons apart from disk location conflicts to force a new version -- what if I install your Jaunty package, then upgrade to Karmic? If they have the same version string, I won't get the Karmic version of your package. | 11:39 |
| rdb | is -0 the first version, or -1 ? | 11:43 |
| cl_2 | hi guys! is there a way i can reach translators in launchpad? i want to release in a few days and it would be nice if translations are completed before then. | 12:11 |
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| Hobbestigrou | hi | 17:41 |
| Hobbestigrou | you know if i can find a ml or a irc channel about lanchpad in a french | 17:42 |
| Hobbestigrou | because my english is very bad | 17:42 |
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| quentusrex | Does anyone know what the heck is up with the apport seahorse mailing list problem???? | 18:02 |
| quentusrex | Please tell me someone is around... | 18:02 |
| quentusrex | Anyone who reported a bug about seahorse(empathy) is now getting 50+ emails | 18:03 |
| bibinou | hi | 18:12 |
| bibinou | how can I search for "Windows 7" in the launchpad bugs ? | 18:12 |
| bibinou | it seems to output the bugs with Windows and 7 and not the whole "Windows 7" phrase | 18:14 |
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