andreasn | the top suggestion for 'why are men' is 'pigs' | 00:37 |
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andreasn | I would like to have answers for 'why is the Internet always so angry' | 00:37 |
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thorwil | "what it about" - a new low for the ubuntu-art list | 08:56 |
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kwwii | he is probably the worlds best artist who just can't communicate properly | 12:53 |
ckontros | :P | 12:53 |
* thorwil imagines a poster with the slogan: ubuntu - it about humans | 13:18 | |
undurundur | About humans? | 13:19 |
* ckontros imagines thorwil's poster all zombie-fy'd. :P | 13:19 | |
thorwil | brains! | 13:20 |
* ckontros goes to watch "Shaun Of The Dead:. :D | 13:21 | |
undurundur | Ubuntu = human | 13:22 |
thorwil | mac_v: simple click for paging works now, among a few cursor/cosmetic changes: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Et-w-/%2Bjunk/dynamic_scrollbar/download/head%3A/dynamic_scrollbar.py-20080816162703-x7ucp0vpno3hwmdb-1/dynamic_scrollbar.py | 15:48 |
thorwil | bbiab | 15:48 |
mac_v | thorwil_: hey , cool works great , i like the new arrows to show the direction... looks good , | 16:08 |
mac_v | thorwil_: the right click works too ;p | 16:08 |
mac_v | thorwil: could you add a delay after the first page scroll? that way the user might not accidentally scroll several pages | 16:11 |
mac_v | it would also make it easier to hold the click to allow drag | 16:12 |
mac_v | thorwil: hmm , i think i found a bug , when the page reaches the end , the down arrow is still displayed , while when the page is at the top , the up arrow does not exist , is this intentional , or a bug? | 16:16 |
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thorwil | mac_v: you mean when dragging? | 16:32 |
mac_v | thorwil: yeah , the first click , the pages srtart scrolling , if you add a delay , before the page scrolls again , that way the user will have time to hold the scrollbar and start dragging the direction they want | 16:33 |
mac_v | starts* | 16:33 |
mac_v | thorwil: in right-click the labels 'start' & 'end' can be either ==> 'Top' & 'Bottom' / 'Home' & 'end' | 16:36 |
thorwil | there is a delay already. i'll try making it a bit longer | 16:37 |
mac_v | oh , ok , I didnt check the code , I'll try that too ;) | 16:37 |
mac_v | thorwil: 'start' might be misread as user can are start some action | 16:38 |
thorwil | mac_v: regarding the cursor, there is a bug if the pointer passes the top or bottom edge before the indicator reaches start or end. though not a bug in my code ... ;) | 16:38 |
mac_v | ;) | 16:39 |
thorwil | mac_v: top/bottom or home/end don't seem any clearer to me | 16:40 |
mac_v | thorwil: 'Home' is what we use in the keyboard | 16:41 |
thorwil | top/bottom might refer to the window edges or stacking. home would be a disaster for a web browser ;) | 16:41 |
thorwil | mac_v: US keyboard? | 16:41 |
mac_v | yeah | 16:41 |
mac_v | thorwil: how about using 'Page top' and 'Page end' ? | 16:42 |
thorwil | mac_v: unlikely to be misunderstood, but repeating words in a menu slows recognition down | 16:44 |
mac_v | thorwil: yeah , exactly why i dint suggest in the first place ;p | 16:44 |
thorwil | "beginning" might be an option | 16:45 |
mac_v | too long | 16:45 |
mac_v | thorwil: what is the name of the key in your keyboard? | 16:46 |
thorwil | it's long but it has no other meanings like start and home | 16:46 |
thorwil | mac_v: Pos 1. for Position 1 | 16:46 |
mac_v | thorwil: hmm , then i think you need to keep the label to depend on the keyboard layout | 16:47 |
mac_v | that way it will stay similar and easier for the user | 16:47 |
thorwil | mac_v: Home remains ungood in a browser scenario | 16:48 |
mac_v | thorwil: but thats what is used in the keyboard , so why change it? | 16:48 |
thorwil | because it doesn't strictly imply start/begining of a page | 16:49 |
mac_v | thorwil: thats why i mentioned 'page top' and 'page end' | 16:51 |
mac_v | thorwil: if you use ,'beginning' , you might need to use 'ending' ? ;p | 16:51 |
mac_v | thorwil: anyway , thats something for discussion for later , you need not worry/be bothered about it now :) | 16:52 |
thorwil | taking horizontal scrolling into account, Top and Bottom might actually be the right choice for matching Left/Right | 16:53 |
mac_v | yeah | 16:54 |
mac_v | thorwil: delay of 300ms , seems good | 16:58 |
mac_v | adorable ;p <No rights reserved, feel free to do whatever you want with this code, but it would be nice if you give me credit.# Thorsten Wilms 2009-11-06> | 17:08 |
zniavre | hello | 17:13 |
ckontros | yo | 17:13 |
zniavre | there is a way to integrate dynamic scrollbar to a gtk window ? | 17:14 |
zniavre | i would want to try it "in real" | 17:14 |
mac_v | zniavre: you can run the py , it works in kinda in-real | 17:22 |
ckontros | Yup. Just run the .py file. It *is* the demo. :) | 17:22 |
thorwil | zniavre: writing the python code is already enough of a challenge for me. C in the middle of GTK+ would be too much ;) | 17:27 |
mac_v | thorwil: make sure to show it to cody russell in UDS , he is atm doing stuff in gtk | 17:28 |
mac_v | or nick > bratsche ;) | 17:30 |
thorwil | ok, changed the delay to 250. fixed wrong cursor after context-menu: Bottom | 17:51 |
thorwil | hrmpf, i knew my snippet from Ask_Mark would lead to a few useless comments. still felt the info should be shared :} | 17:54 |
ckontros | I was gonna say. Man, we've turned into a jaded bunch. :P | 17:54 |
zniavre_ | mac_v, yes i already tried the .py | 18:13 |
zniavre_ | thorwil_, i hope you can get some help to do it (not from me ) | 18:15 |
zniavre_ | the concept is good and "new" (i mean it's not in another OS yet) | 18:16 |
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thorwil | zniavre_: well, thanks :) | 18:48 |
mac_v | oops! what did i do > Bug #477686 , i assigned this bug to human-gtk-theme.. iirc the name is different | 18:48 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 477686 in hundredpapercuts "too low contrast in checkboxes of update manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/477686 | 18:48 |
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mac_v | ah got it! , damn hyphens argh :/ | 18:50 |
mac_v | http://gizmodo.com/5395720/ask-the-artist-how-windows-7s-iconic-home-screen-evolved | 18:51 |
thorwil_ | mac_v: now we just someone to copy that style with the CoC. not :) | 19:11 |
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