[00:37] the top suggestion for 'why are men' is 'pigs' [00:37] I would like to have answers for 'why is the Internet always so angry' === rsc____ is now known as rsc___ === rsc____ is now known as rsc___ === rsc____ is now known as rsc___ === rsc____ is now known as rsc___ === elky is now known as Guest67610 === Guest67610 is now known as elky [08:56] "what it about" - a new low for the ubuntu-art list === thorwil_ is now known as thorwil [12:53] he is probably the worlds best artist who just can't communicate properly [12:53] :P [13:18] * thorwil imagines a poster with the slogan: ubuntu - it about humans [13:19] About humans? [13:19] * ckontros imagines thorwil's poster all zombie-fy'd. :P [13:20] brains! [13:21] * ckontros goes to watch "Shaun Of The Dead:. :D [13:22] Ubuntu = human [15:48] mac_v: simple click for paging works now, among a few cursor/cosmetic changes: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Et-w-/%2Bjunk/dynamic_scrollbar/download/head%3A/dynamic_scrollbar.py-20080816162703-x7ucp0vpno3hwmdb-1/dynamic_scrollbar.py [15:48] bbiab [16:08] thorwil_: hey , cool works great , i like the new arrows to show the direction... looks good , [16:08] thorwil_: the right click works too ;p [16:11] thorwil: could you add a delay after the first page scroll? that way the user might not accidentally scroll several pages [16:12] it would also make it easier to hold the click to allow drag [16:16] thorwil: hmm , i think i found a bug , when the page reaches the end , the down arrow is still displayed , while when the page is at the top , the up arrow does not exist , is this intentional , or a bug? === thorwil_ is now known as thorwil [16:32] mac_v: you mean when dragging? [16:33] thorwil: yeah , the first click , the pages srtart scrolling , if you add a delay , before the page scrolls again , that way the user will have time to hold the scrollbar and start dragging the direction they want [16:33] starts* [16:36] thorwil: in right-click the labels 'start' & 'end' can be either ==> 'Top' & 'Bottom' / 'Home' & 'end' [16:37] there is a delay already. i'll try making it a bit longer [16:37] oh , ok , I didnt check the code , I'll try that too ;) [16:38] thorwil: 'start' might be misread as user can are start some action [16:38] mac_v: regarding the cursor, there is a bug if the pointer passes the top or bottom edge before the indicator reaches start or end. though not a bug in my code ... ;) [16:39] ;) [16:40] mac_v: top/bottom or home/end don't seem any clearer to me [16:41] thorwil: 'Home' is what we use in the keyboard [16:41] top/bottom might refer to the window edges or stacking. home would be a disaster for a web browser ;) [16:41] mac_v: US keyboard? [16:41] yeah [16:42] thorwil: how about using 'Page top' and 'Page end' ? [16:44] mac_v: unlikely to be misunderstood, but repeating words in a menu slows recognition down [16:44] thorwil: yeah , exactly why i dint suggest in the first place ;p [16:45] "beginning" might be an option [16:45] too long [16:46] thorwil: what is the name of the key in your keyboard? [16:46] it's long but it has no other meanings like start and home [16:46] mac_v: Pos 1. for Position 1 [16:47] thorwil: hmm , then i think you need to keep the label to depend on the keyboard layout [16:47] that way it will stay similar and easier for the user [16:48] mac_v: Home remains ungood in a browser scenario [16:48] thorwil: but thats what is used in the keyboard , so why change it? [16:49] because it doesn't strictly imply start/begining of a page [16:51] thorwil: thats why i mentioned 'page top' and 'page end' [16:51] thorwil: if you use ,'beginning' , you might need to use 'ending' ? ;p [16:52] thorwil: anyway , thats something for discussion for later , you need not worry/be bothered about it now :) [16:53] taking horizontal scrolling into account, Top and Bottom might actually be the right choice for matching Left/Right [16:54] yeah [16:58] thorwil: delay of 300ms , seems good [17:08] adorable ;p [17:13] hello [17:13] yo [17:14] there is a way to integrate dynamic scrollbar to a gtk window ? [17:14] i would want to try it "in real" [17:22] zniavre: you can run the py , it works in kinda in-real [17:22] Yup. Just run the .py file. It *is* the demo. :) [17:27] zniavre: writing the python code is already enough of a challenge for me. C in the middle of GTK+ would be too much ;) [17:28] thorwil: make sure to show it to cody russell in UDS , he is atm doing stuff in gtk [17:30] or nick > bratsche ;) [17:51] ok, changed the delay to 250. fixed wrong cursor after context-menu: Bottom [17:54] hrmpf, i knew my snippet from Ask_Mark would lead to a few useless comments. still felt the info should be shared :} [17:54] I was gonna say. Man, we've turned into a jaded bunch. :P [18:13] mac_v, yes i already tried the .py [18:15] thorwil_, i hope you can get some help to do it (not from me ) [18:16] the concept is good and "new" (i mean it's not in another OS yet) === thorwil_ is now known as thorwil [18:48] zniavre_: well, thanks :) [18:48] oops! what did i do > Bug #477686 , i assigned this bug to human-gtk-theme.. iirc the name is different [18:48] Launchpad bug 477686 in hundredpapercuts "too low contrast in checkboxes of update manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/477686 [18:48] * thorwil wonders what's up with his connection today [18:50] ah got it! , damn hyphens argh :/ [18:51] http://gizmodo.com/5395720/ask-the-artist-how-windows-7s-iconic-home-screen-evolved [19:11] mac_v: now we just someone to copy that style with the CoC. not :) === thorwil_ is now known as thorwil