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lamontLaney: we can take you to a place where stairs are.  Say, maybe, Dallas. :-p00:00
lamontbut ya' gotta be upstream before you have any worries00:00
lamontwell, upstream, or slanagasek00:01
lamontslangasek even00:01
lamontwandering, slow response00:01
slangaseksuperm1: what mythtv-related package in mythbuntu is going to be calling pam_open_session() ? (bug #287715)00:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 287715 in pam "Do not create CK sessions for cron and other system sessions" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28771500:33
JanCmeh, seems like all the binary Canon printer/multifunctional drivers as provided on Canon's site won't install anymore, due to how they depend on libcupsys2 plus version number  :-(00:39
crypt-0amarok: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libamaroklib.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZTIN6TagLib3MP44FileE00:43
geofftdidn't you say that yesterday?00:44
crypt-0yes and it never got fixed.00:44
tsimpsoncrypt-0: I told you, it's loading /usr/local/lib/libtag.so.1 rather than the one in /usr/lib00:44
tsimpsonyou have some custom-built library in /usr/local.lib which is not the one amarok expects00:45
crypt-0so what commads can i drop to fix it?00:53
crypt-0sudo rm /usr/local/lib/libtag.so.100:53
crypt-0worked00:53
crypt-0thnks00:54
crypt-0sorry for asking again00:54
crypt-0*thanks00:54
JanCand Canon flat out refuses to update them...?!01:05
m4tanyone know rhythmbox dbus bindings?01:17
m4tmethods/routines whatever01:17
m4tactually...http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/rhythmbox/trunk/shell/rb-shell-player.xml?view=markup01:18
Guest10506ubuntu does not have xorg.conf anymore?02:03
ScottKGuest10506: In most cases not.  Upstream did away with it.02:04
Guest10506ScottK, any idea how to add a resolution then02:04
ScottKGuest10506: If your gui tools won't help you, use xrandr (see the man page), but help is in #ubuntu02:05
Guest10506no one in there has any idea02:08
Guest10506xrandr giving me errors02:08
ScottKThat doesn't make this a support channel.02:08
ScottKYou might try #ubuntu-x02:08
Guest10506yea no one in there02:11
Guest10506thanks02:11
superm1slangasek, you are thinking of bug 44595302:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 445953 in consolekit "shutdown asks for password with only 1 user logged in" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44595302:44
slangaseksuperm1: not by name, but I guess that's related, yes. :)02:46
superm1slangasek, mythbackend does this as it runs as the 'mythtv' daemon user, as well as several cron jobs that run as this same user02:46
superm1and they actually need to run as the user, not just the uid because they need a proper $HOME02:47
slangaseksuperm1: ehm, I think that's an artificial distinction (regarding su as "run as the user")02:50
slangaseksuperm1: start-stop-daemon + a wrapper script to set $HOME would achieve this02:50
superm1start-stop-daemon in an upstart job?02:51
slangasekoh, is it upstarted?02:51
superm1Yeah02:51
slangasekwell, start-stop-daemon should work in an upstart job too02:51
superm1http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythtv/mythtv-fixes/annotate/head:/debian/mythtv-backend.upstart02:51
slangaseks-s-d is part of dpkg, not sysvinit02:52
superm1but read keybuk's comment from that bug  (#14), this still sounds like it's a deficiency of consolekit02:54
slangasekno, "they're non-interactive sessions" - it's not consolekit's fault for not knowing you're using su noninteractively02:55
slangasekthe normal use of su is interactive, and the su PAM config is configured that way intentionally02:55
slangaseks-s-d seems to fail at using -u $USER to set the uid, though; hmm02:56
slangasekoh, there we go; -c03:04
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chenillenhi there05:08
Caesarslangasek: I wanted your opinion on http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2892189&group_id=6663&atid=10666305:21
ubottuError: <Bugtracker.plugin.Sourceforge instance at 0x292a878> bug 2892189 not found05:21
jdongLOL05:26
ebroderThat's /awesome/05:28
CaesarThat bug, or ubottu's handling of it?05:28
ebroderThe latter05:28
wgrantSF.net changed their URLs and pages, so ubottu is confused nowadays.05:29
chenillenanyone here fixed the zlib php5 bug in 9.10?05:40
slangasekCaesar: ah yes05:41
slangasekCaesar: I know nothing about netgroups; you've cited your sources though, so if no one else speaks up with a counterargument, I'm certainly willing to push a revert of that change05:42
* slangasek wonders where notifications of new bug reports on SF go :P05:42
* wgrant eeps a bit at today's format 3.0 adoption jump of 11 packages.06:08
ScottK   All the cool kids are doing it.06:10
wgrantSleepIRCing again, are we?06:11
Caesarslangasek: cool06:11
CaesarI would appreciate that06:11
ScottKwgrant: Yeah.  Insomnia is 'fun'06:12
wgrantScottK: :(06:13
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TerminXanyone getting broken kernel builds with gcc 4.4.2-1ubuntu3?09:29
* TerminX posts http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131785609:31
TerminXguess I could try gcc from sid just to see what happens09:33
sivangpitti: ping09:34
TerminXah, yeah, gcc from sid seems to work09:34
sivangpitti: how are you my dear old freind ?09:34
TerminXguess the lucid toolchain is broken in some way at the moment09:34
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naftilos76Hi everyone, it is soo unfortunate that 9.10 has some serious issues! Firefox keeps crashing and Evolution crashes as soon as i try to open a video or OO attachment! Any temp solutions around?11:43
janisozauri want to create two versions of some algorithms and benchmark it one against the other. i'm interested solely in the time it takes to execute the algorithm, i.e. without initialization time, user input and so on. what should i use to check the time it took to execute a piece of code? would rdtsc be sufficient, given it will be multi-thred/-core application or is there any better alterantive?12:22
macojanisozaur: the "time" command? though im not really sure this is on-topic for this channel...12:24
janisozaurmaco: where should i ask then? time() returns unix_time which is seconds sine 1/1/1970, too small precision12:25
janisozaurmaco: oh, you mean command12:25
janisozaurmaco: well it's even less suited to this for the reasons I stated above12:26
macomaybe #C?12:27
macoif thats the langauge you're operating in12:27
macoas /topic sas Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development on Ubuntu)12:28
maco*says12:28
om26erafter install ubuntu on acer aspire one memory card you cannot boot until you insert you memory card in a usb card reader and then add modules to the initrd. thos modules are mmc_core mmc_block sdhci sdhci-pci. there are many tutorials online but if in lucid lynx these modules are inserted in the intitrd that would be great. and also in which package name i can report this at LP. linux package?13:08
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ililhi all! one question about new packages and Debian Import Freeze: are new packages from debian-multimedia.org auto imported too?14:05
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ililmy app cant be in Debian due to mjpegtools dependence, so it is in C.Marillat repository14:06
ScottKilil: Not automatically14:09
directhexnot automatically. and many packages in  that repo are of poor quality, so i'd hope the packages are manually proof-read before syncing14:11
ililok, and how to start including in ubuntu14:12
ilil?14:12
directhex"requestsync" command files appropriate bug14:12
ScottKdirecthex: I think for debian-multimedia you have to make the sync request manually14:13
directhexoh, true14:14
ililjust to file bug "sync" in launchpad?14:14
ScottKilil: Yes and then subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors to the bug.14:16
ililScottK: ok, thanks14:23
ScottKTheMuso: I'd appreciate it if you would have a look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/4:4.6.0~beta1-1ubuntu1/+build/1328648 - I think "ld terminated with signal 11 [Segmentation fault]" is not a good thing ....14:37
gesersoren: if you're in sponsoring mood: bug #47749114:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 477491 in gnupg2 "Merge gnupg2 2.0.13-1 from Debian testing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47749114:59
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sorengeser: Added to my todo list for Monday.15:33
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bluefoxicylol16:09
bluefoxicyfarmville crashed X16:09
Chase_I'm trying to run debuild, but when I do I get "Unmet build dependencies"16:22
Chase_I'm trying to rebuild the xserver-xorg-core package16:22
Chase_the unmet deps seem to be all x related, so how do I get the build deps?16:22
macosudo apt-get build-dep xserver-xorg-core16:24
Chase_maco, thanks!16:24
Chase_maco: does that install the build deps onto my system itself?16:25
Chase_or just download them so they may be installed in the fakeroot when building?16:25
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Chase_are there instructions somewhere on how to add a patch to a package?16:30
Chase_I've done: apt-get source xserver-xorg-core16:30
Chase_then I patched the source, put the patch in debian/patches and in the debian/patches/series file16:31
Chase_I've copied the orig tarball into the top dir of the source16:31
Chase_but when I run debuild, it errors out with:16:31
Chase_dpkg-source: error: cannot represent change to xorg-server-1.6.4/xorg-server_1.6.4.orig.tar.gz: binary file contents changed16:31
macoChase_: it installs them on yours16:36
macoChase_: the tarball doesnt go inside the source...16:36
macothe .dsc the .diff.gz and .orig.tar.gz should all be at the same level16:36
Chase_maco, I need to create a new diff.gz file though16:37
Chase_I thought debuild -S would eventually do that16:37
macoChase_: you might want to try pbuilder to automate chroot/fakeroot/getting build-deps/building/etc16:37
macoyes it does16:37
macobut your .orig.tar.gz shouldnt go *inside* the source16:37
Chase_where should it go?16:37
maconext to it16:37
Chase_and how do I tell it where it is?16:37
macoit knows to look backwards one directory16:37
Chase_ok16:38
macoChase_: make sense?16:38
Chase_maco, I think I've got everything working now16:38
Chase_yes16:38
macogreat :)16:38
Chase_maco, so I'm a little confused by the patching process16:41
Chase_I see some patches in debian/patches16:41
Chase_so I figured the diff.gz file wouldn't include any patches against the source itself16:41
Chase_but diff.gz includes patches against the source AND patches inside debian/patches that seem to be waiting to be applied16:41
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ebroderRight - the .diff.gz is /everything/ that's different from the .orig.tar.gz16:44
ebroderThe debian/patches directory is just used so that patches can be separated from the source in the unpacked package16:44
BenCChase_: patching the stock source and using debian/patches/ is the wrong way to go...should use either one or the other16:45
ebroderSure, but that's a convention, not something enforced by the packaging format. It's important to know the difference16:45
Chase_yeah, I understand, but my issue is I'm seeing the ubuntu package having it both ways16:45
BenCcorrect, but still worth pointing out :)16:46
Chase_so which way should I be doing it?16:46
BenCI'm jumping in the middle, so I might be making things more confusing16:46
BenCChase_: if debian/patches/ exists already, then go with that16:46
Chase_ok16:46
BenCChase_: if it's an ubuntu specific patch, then name the patch file something that shows that, and try to make it so it gets applied last to help later patching efforts16:47
BenClike calling it 99_ubuntu_xxxx.diff or whatever16:47
Chase_it's not ubuntu specific16:47
Chase_it's a crash bugfix, and I want to make a package to test it out16:48
Chase_I'm actually not seeing where the patches are applied...16:48
BenCChase_: then keep the naming scheme of the original package16:48
Chase_from debian/patches16:48
Chase_yeah16:48
BenCChase_: it's probably something like dpatch or a similar packaging tool that handles it16:48
BenCChase_: check debian/control build-deps for what packaging tool it is using16:49
Chase_I tried building it, and it patched it anyways16:49
Chase_so I guess it works16:49
ebroderChase_: You probably shouldn't add a new patch as 99_ something - it makes it hard to add more patches later16:52
Chase_ebroder, what should I be doing?16:52
ebroderPut it just after the patches that are already there16:52
Chase_you mean in the series file?16:53
Chase_if I make a new version of the xserver-xorg-core package and I want to upload it into my own lp ppa, should I just increase the ubuntu* number?17:14
Chase_making it -ubuntu5 instead of -ubuntu417:14
jbichaChase_: it would be better to name it -ubuntu5~ppa1 as discussed at https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage17:21
Chase_jbicha, thanks for the pointer17:21
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tagThis bug has been blocking me for some time :-( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6/+bug/46319921:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 463199 in sun-java6 "java 6 segfault" [Undecided,New]21:23
tagI'm unable to recreate it just using catgets()21:28
nxvl_geser: i just updated gnupg debdiff22:37
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nxvlgeser: i indeed forgot to remove those entries, even when i removed that from the source since they were conflicting :P22:38
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