| eagles0513875 | hi hbbs | 07:23 |
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| EruditeHermit | hey, do you guys know anything about network-manager? | 07:42 |
| EruditeHermit | it is reporting that my zd1211rw card has a 1Mb/s speed, but it should be 54Mb/s | 07:42 |
| EruditeHermit | is it just a bug in reporting, or do you think the speed is actually that | 07:42 |
| eagles0513875 | EruditeHermit: how far are you away from the router | 07:42 |
| EruditeHermit | right next to it | 07:43 |
| EruditeHermit | less than 1m | 07:43 |
| dtchen | the dreaded zd1211rw. | 07:43 |
| EruditeHermit | dtchen, do you know of any good USB wireless devices? | 07:43 |
| EruditeHermit | for Linux | 07:43 |
| eagles0513875 | EruditeHermit: not sure how accurate it could be then me on kubuntu it shows 54 when im close to the router | 07:43 |
| EruditeHermit | eagles0513875, jaunty or karmic? | 07:44 |
| dtchen | EruditeHermit: I can recommend the ar9170-based ones highly | 07:44 |
| eagles0513875 | karmic | 07:44 |
| eagles0513875 | but kubuntu | 07:44 |
| dtchen | currently I'm using a Netgear WNDA3100 | 07:44 |
| EruditeHermit | wow thats $80 | 07:45 |
| eagles0513875 | then again the plasma widget nm on kubuntu has been hell though | 07:45 |
| dtchen | it's the best $80 I spent | 07:46 |
| dtchen | allowed me to drop the closed wl driver for Broadcom devices on the floor | 07:46 |
| EruditeHermit | eagles0513875, my jaunty install reports 54Mb/s | 07:46 |
| dtchen | the ar9170 is completely open with open firmware | 07:46 |
| eagles0513875 | EruditeHermit: i would report a bug against the network manager | 07:47 |
| EruditeHermit | dtchen, I just booted karmic with 2.6.28 kernel and it reports 54Mb/s | 07:49 |
| dtchen | 2.6.28 is very, very different from 2.6.31 in terms of the wireless stack | 07:50 |
| EruditeHermit | also my alsa doesn't work when I boot with 2.6.28 | 07:50 |
| dtchen | well, yeah, I've explained that bit quite a few times | 07:50 |
| dtchen | that's due to the older kernel emitting different uevents, so the newer udev flails | 07:51 |
| EruditeHermit | ah | 07:51 |
| EruditeHermit | so is there a workaround for that? | 07:51 |
| dtchen | don't use 2.6.28? | 07:51 |
| EruditeHermit | there is a bug with Catalyst driver that makes 2.6.31 really slow | 07:51 |
| EruditeHermit | err makes the graphics drawing to screen slow | 07:52 |
| EruditeHermit | dtchen, would kernel 2.6.30 have the same uevents as 2.6.31? | 07:52 |
| dtchen | no | 07:52 |
| dtchen | you need 2.6.31+ for 9.10's udev | 07:53 |
| dtchen | that said, if you *really* want to use 2.6.28, you can, but it's really a PITA | 07:53 |
| EruditeHermit | ok | 07:53 |
| dtchen | you'll end up creating symlinks everywhere on every boot | 07:53 |
| EruditeHermit | nah, its not unusable | 07:54 |
| EruditeHermit | i'll bear with 2.6.31 until they fix it | 07:54 |
| EruditeHermit | and the network-manager thing seems to be a reporting probem | 07:54 |
| eagles0513875 | i would still file a bug though EruditeHermit | 07:54 |
| EruditeHermit | ok | 07:54 |
| EruditeHermit | will do | 07:55 |
| EruditeHermit | 1Mb/s is approx 0.12MB/s right? | 07:55 |
| EruditeHermit | (1/8) MB/s | 07:56 |
| dtchen | sounds reasonable, yes | 07:56 |
| EruditeHermit | I can download faster than that so I guess its just reporting it wrong | 07:56 |
| EruditeHermit | bug reported | 08:06 |
| EruditeHermit | thanks dtchen and eagles0513875 for the help | 08:07 |
| eagles0513875 | no problem | 08:07 |
| Admiral_1hicago | I'm running the Shiertoko release on my Karmic Install, is there a way I can run the default Mozilla package? I can't figure it out... | 22:06 |
| === Admiral_1hicago is now known as Admiral_chicago | ||
| dtchen | huh | 22:10 |
| dtchen | you don't have firefox-3.5 installed? | 22:10 |
| Admiral_chicago | i do | 22:14 |
| dtchen | so where is Shiretoko appearing? | 22:14 |
| Admiral_chicago | 3.5.3+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu6 | 22:14 |
| Admiral_chicago | thats the version | 22:14 |
| dtchen | I'm confused about what you mean by "default Mozilla package" | 22:16 |
| dtchen | that *is* the default one | 22:16 |
| dtchen | do you mean you have a different one installed in $HOME or /usr/local ? | 22:16 |
| Admiral_chicago | the one with the Mozilla branding. I'm under the impression I'm running a prerelease build or something. | 22:16 |
| dtchen | what does 'which firefox' return? | 22:17 |
| Admiral_chicago | /usr/bin/firefox | 22:17 |
| dtchen | I also presume you have firefox-3.5-branding installed? | 22:18 |
| Admiral_chicago | let me double check but I am sure I installed it | 22:18 |
| Admiral_chicago | yes, I have it installed and it still only returns Shiretoko. | 22:21 |
| dtchen | in Help > About ? | 22:22 |
| dtchen | what does 'firefox --version' return? | 22:22 |
| Admiral_chicago | yes in Help > About. | 22:23 |
| Admiral_chicago | firefox --version return Mozilla Firefox 3.5.6pre | 22:24 |
| dtchen | heh | 22:26 |
| dtchen | well there's your culprit | 22:27 |
| dtchen | file /usr/bin/firefox | 22:27 |
| Admiral_chicago | i'm conused, do you want me to type that in? | 22:31 |
| Admiral_chicago | if I do, I return /usr/bin/firefox: symbolic link to `firefox-3.5' | 22:32 |
| dtchen | right, so your firefox-3.5 is from 3.5.6pre | 22:34 |
| dtchen | not from 3.5.3 | 22:34 |
| dtchen | so figure out who/what installed 3.5.6pre when | 22:34 |
| dtchen | do you have a deb line in /etc/apt/sources.list*{,/*} for daily builds? | 22:35 |
| dtchen | *** 3.5.4+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.10.1 0 | 22:35 |
| dtchen | 500 http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/main Packages | 22:35 |
| Admiral_chicago | I do not. I double checked my sources | 22:37 |
| Admiral_chicago | Daniel, do you think if I purge the firefox3.5 file and grab the build from packages.ubuntu.com, I could install it from there and that would prevent future problems? | 22:38 |
| dtchen | it's a start | 22:40 |
| Admiral_chicago | well that worked. | 22:55 |
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