[07:23] hi hbbs [07:42] hey, do you guys know anything about network-manager? [07:42] it is reporting that my zd1211rw card has a 1Mb/s speed, but it should be 54Mb/s [07:42] is it just a bug in reporting, or do you think the speed is actually that [07:42] EruditeHermit: how far are you away from the router [07:43] right next to it [07:43] less than 1m [07:43] the dreaded zd1211rw. [07:43] dtchen, do you know of any good USB wireless devices? [07:43] for Linux [07:43] EruditeHermit: not sure how accurate it could be then me on kubuntu it shows 54 when im close to the router [07:44] eagles0513875, jaunty or karmic? [07:44] EruditeHermit: I can recommend the ar9170-based ones highly [07:44] karmic [07:44] but kubuntu [07:44] currently I'm using a Netgear WNDA3100 [07:45] wow thats $80 [07:45] then again the plasma widget nm on kubuntu has been hell though [07:46] it's the best $80 I spent [07:46] allowed me to drop the closed wl driver for Broadcom devices on the floor [07:46] eagles0513875, my jaunty install reports 54Mb/s [07:46] the ar9170 is completely open with open firmware [07:47] EruditeHermit: i would report a bug against the network manager [07:49] dtchen, I just booted karmic with 2.6.28 kernel and it reports 54Mb/s [07:50] 2.6.28 is very, very different from 2.6.31 in terms of the wireless stack [07:50] also my alsa doesn't work when I boot with 2.6.28 [07:50] well, yeah, I've explained that bit quite a few times [07:51] that's due to the older kernel emitting different uevents, so the newer udev flails [07:51] ah [07:51] so is there a workaround for that? [07:51] don't use 2.6.28? [07:51] there is a bug with Catalyst driver that makes 2.6.31 really slow [07:52] err makes the graphics drawing to screen slow [07:52] dtchen, would kernel 2.6.30 have the same uevents as 2.6.31? [07:52] no [07:53] you need 2.6.31+ for 9.10's udev [07:53] that said, if you *really* want to use 2.6.28, you can, but it's really a PITA [07:53] ok [07:53] you'll end up creating symlinks everywhere on every boot [07:54] nah, its not unusable [07:54] i'll bear with 2.6.31 until they fix it [07:54] and the network-manager thing seems to be a reporting probem [07:54] i would still file a bug though EruditeHermit [07:54] ok [07:55] will do [07:55] 1Mb/s is approx 0.12MB/s right? [07:56] (1/8) MB/s [07:56] sounds reasonable, yes [07:56] I can download faster than that so I guess its just reporting it wrong [08:06] bug reported [08:07] thanks dtchen and eagles0513875 for the help [08:07] no problem [22:06] I'm running the Shiertoko release on my Karmic Install, is there a way I can run the default Mozilla package? I can't figure it out... === Admiral_1hicago is now known as Admiral_chicago [22:10] huh [22:10] you don't have firefox-3.5 installed? [22:14] i do [22:14] so where is Shiretoko appearing? [22:14] 3.5.3+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu6 [22:14] thats the version [22:16] I'm confused about what you mean by "default Mozilla package" [22:16] that *is* the default one [22:16] do you mean you have a different one installed in $HOME or /usr/local ? [22:16] the one with the Mozilla branding. I'm under the impression I'm running a prerelease build or something. [22:17] what does 'which firefox' return? [22:17] /usr/bin/firefox [22:18] I also presume you have firefox-3.5-branding installed? [22:18] let me double check but I am sure I installed it [22:21] yes, I have it installed and it still only returns Shiretoko. [22:22] in Help > About ? [22:22] what does 'firefox --version' return? [22:23] yes in Help > About. [22:24] firefox --version return Mozilla Firefox 3.5.6pre [22:26] heh [22:27] well there's your culprit [22:27] file /usr/bin/firefox [22:31] i'm conused, do you want me to type that in? [22:32] if I do, I return /usr/bin/firefox: symbolic link to `firefox-3.5' [22:34] right, so your firefox-3.5 is from 3.5.6pre [22:34] not from 3.5.3 [22:34] so figure out who/what installed 3.5.6pre when [22:35] do you have a deb line in /etc/apt/sources.list*{,/*} for daily builds? [22:35] *** 3.5.4+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.10.1 0 [22:35] 500 http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/main Packages [22:37] I do not. I double checked my sources [22:38] Daniel, do you think if I purge the firefox3.5 file and grab the build from packages.ubuntu.com, I could install it from there and that would prevent future problems? [22:40] it's a start [22:55] well that worked.