[00:04] superm1, ok thanks .. just reading http://www.lirc.org/html/devinput.html to see what I need to change in the fdi [00:29] tyce: You can't AFAIK [00:29] Myth doesn't support that [01:05] superm1, done that and now it is listed as ignored which is progress, however "cat /proc/bus/usb/devices" still shows Driver=usbhid and irw fails to show anything. anything I need to check ? lshal etc here http://paste.ubuntu.com/311999/ [01:10] alsow trying to make sense of this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1175001 as it may be my problem too [01:43] I have tried ATTRS{idVendor}=="15c2", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0043", OPTIONS=="ignore_device" in /etc/udev/rules.d/10-lirc.rules but no effect :-( [02:33] hads: that's pretty much what I've come up with... thanks [02:37] hmm dmesg shows [ 3.895274] input: HID 15c2:0043 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:04.0/usb3/3-4/3-4:1.0/input/input4 [02:37] [ 3.895492] generic-usb 0003:15C2:0043.0002: input,hidraw1: USB HID v1.01 Mouse [HID 15c2:0043] on usb-0000:00:04.0-4/input0 [02:37] [ 3.906295] generic-usb 0003:15C2:0043.0003: hiddev96,hidraw2: USB HID v1.00 Device [HID 15c2:0043] on usb-0000:00:04.0-4/input1 [02:37] [ 3.991074] usb 3-2.1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4 [02:37] [ 4.117257] usb 3-2.1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [02:44] superm1, it seems after that fdi rule change that it is no linger listed via lsusb, is that to be expected ? [02:47] you'll find them listed via lshal [03:01] lshal listed a second device...adding additonal match rule to fdi and will see what happens [03:11] hey hey [03:23] superm1, ok all ignored now but "cat /proc/bus/usb/devices" still shows Driver=usbhid and irw fails to show anything ... can I use the the fdi rules to force the driver i.e. lirc_imon ? [03:24] hipitihop, i dont believe so [03:24] you might try asking around in #hal or the hal mailing list [03:28] superm1, thanks for your help/time......sigh.... all this pain and hours of searching for what was listed as a supported linux remote grrr [03:28] well there are lots of people who have lirc_imon based remotes working [03:29] you're the first i've heard with such pain [03:58] hello all. major uprading woes! 9.04 to 9.10, one of the issues is on the desktop, there are 4 bars that look like progress bars "always on top" and very annoying [03:58] has anyone run into anything like this, or might be able to point me in the right direction? [04:00] gnome panels on top? [04:00] it's xfce, no gnome panels that I know of [04:00] let me take a screenshot... [04:05] http://www.flickr.com/photos/11372887@N03/4082240960/ === leprasmurf1 is now known as leprasmurf [05:03] hello, after updating to 9.10, I'm having a problem with mtd segfaulting when I try to rip a dvd [05:04] leprasmurf, well that's really messed up... [05:05] can you check for some rogue processes that might be making them? [05:05] were you by chance using the xfce splash mode? [05:05] ripperda, any chance you can try to catch a backtrace? you can see if apport will catch it by turning on apport via /etc/default/apport and rebooting [05:06] sure, I tried gdb, but the backtrace wasn't very useful. I'll take a look at apport [05:07] superm1, do I need to reboot or restart anything after changing that setting? [05:07] either need to reboot or start the apport upstart task [05:07] the backtrace you get still won't be useful, but once you send it up to launchpad in a bug report, debugging symbols should in theory get applied against it and spit out something more useful [05:08] if that's still not working out, can walk you through how to locally pull the debugging symbols down [05:08] sure [05:16] superm1: sorry, forgot I had the chat room up. xfce splash mode? [05:16] they didn't show up until after the upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 [05:32] superm1, filed bug 477174 [13:23] how do i fix auto-login on 9.10? [13:23] it not only doesn't work, sometimes I have to log in 3-5 times. [13:50] how has the distro upgrade been from 9.04 to 9.10? any horror stories? [13:51] whoDat_: hold on a sec, let me dig something up [13:51] my 9.04 is running just great, when myth 0.22 is released, will it be backported to 9.04? [13:52] mrand: okay. [13:54] whoDat_: check out Bug 463314 [13:54] Bug 463314 in mythbuntu "User login forced at bootup of mythbuntu 9.10" [High, Triaged] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/463314 [13:54] mrand: I tried what was in this thread already : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1308845&highlight=mythbuntu+login+bug [13:55] squish102: 0.22 is available via the auto-builds for 9.04, but won't be "officially" backported to 9.04 [13:57] squish102: overall it has not been bad. (1) One minor upgrade problem is the above bug... most users fix this very easily. (2) A couple have had driver-level regressions which is a risk of any and all upgrades. (3) Sound gets the in way of a few people. [13:57] mrand: yeah I tried the solution there, still doesn't work. even though I still have to login, when I go to the "login screen" under setup it says it's set for automatic login. heh [13:58] whoDat_: not sure then. did you try disabling it, and then reenabling it? [13:58] i will try that. a couple others posted in that thread that they tried it and it didnt fix it for them either. [13:59] should i disable it, log out, log back in, then re-enable, then log out, then reboot? [14:02] whoDat_: well, did you do the "right-click and chose Applications, System, then Login Screen.", or did you replace some files on your own? [14:02] i've tried both. [14:02] tried the Login Screen gui first. [14:03] Login screen gui worked fine for me and lots of others, so it is a puzzle why it might be failing for some. [14:03] thanks mrand [14:03] !login [14:03] Sorry I don't know about login [14:04] mrand: can you pastebin your custom.conf so I can compare? [14:04] sure give me a sec. [14:08] http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d7946bfa5 [14:08] thanks! [14:09] oh you actually have timed login enabled. I will try that since it's the only difference. [14:12] so you actually see the gdm login screen for 10 seconds? [14:14] hahaha.. now it shows the 10 second timer clock...when the time is up, the screen flickers, and then goes back to the login screen without a timer. [14:18] That's crazy. [14:20] can i use xdm with xfce rather than gdm? [14:22] whoDat_: I don't know if it would work or not. I've read that, in general, xdm isn't great - but I haven't tried it. [14:24] superm1 might have some other idea(s) for the auto-login, but he probably won't be online anytime soon. When I see him, I'll ask him and if there are any new ideas, we'll post them to that forum thread. [14:42] How can I get "folder view" to sort files by release date? As in to list a movie before it's sequel, or a TV Episodes in order? I don't like the browse "TV/Movie" style though. Running a completely updated Mythbuntu Karmic. [15:36] is anyone here having problems with the new mythtv's video manager? [15:37] mine has dumped the poster/background index twice now and it has never allowed me to manually enter the imdb number for movies [15:38] i enter it and nothing happens [15:59] i'm thinking of updating my hardy backend & intrepid frontend to jaunty... anything i need to be aware of? like a change in database tables, etc for mythtv? [16:01] pteague, i'm new to myth however i do love the karmic myth ;) [16:13] has karmic been officially released yet? asking cause i've been busy & a bit out of it [16:13] pteague, i believe so [16:14] i had the RC b4 then the next day or so final was released.. [16:15] then i probably need to check out karmic at some point [16:15] honestly.. its not too bad [16:16] has some problems but they've updated about any issue already [16:17] i have 2 computers that have been issues on occasion in the past... my desktop has an nvidia dual-monitor set up & my laptop is a macbook pro >.> [16:19] i have dual monitors also [16:19] after i installed ubuntu 9.10 i played hell trying to get dual monitors back.. [16:19] Jester86: Please watch your language. [16:20] for some reason it was only seeing one.. [16:20] after updating to the newest driver and everything else i finally got smart and tried messing with the dvi cables [16:20] after giggling them and trying to re-tighten it picked up the other monitor no prob [16:21] evidently it as connected well enough to display picture but not for the card to sense the other monitor [16:23] yeah, i recently had issues after a reinstall because of a failed hard drive... turned out i hadn't plugged in the 2nd monitor >.> [16:24] haha [16:24] i dont feel so bad then ;) === kees__ is now known as kees [16:26] it had been a couple months since replacing the hd & messing with dual monitors... still not sure if i want to mirror /home or set it up yet another raid5 [16:27] After i updated to 9.10, myths upnp is not working, Also, the hostname does not resolve when i ping it from other hosts. It has a stic IP that I can ping though. [16:28] seanthegeek, i had the sam issue [16:28] it doesnt resolve hostname and i cannot assign a static ip due to my router being a POS [16:29] however it does dynamic dhcp so it keeps giving my mac address the same ip so its cool [16:29] but yeah hostname doesnt work for w/e reason [16:30] i just used ip in my fstab to mount my network drives [16:30] hostname not resolving is a dns issue... if you have a router with a dns server that might not have a record for your box... or else you need to update /etc/hosts [16:31] Jester86: can you set your router up to give a dhcp client an ip address based on the mac address? [16:31] sadly, this also means mythfrontend hosts cant find the backend [16:32] pteague, some you can set.. mine seems to be doing it automatically [16:32] seanthegeek, tahts an ip issue [16:32] seanthegeek: update their /etc/hosts with the ip address & hostname of the backend or else fix your router [16:32] all you need to do is figure out the ip of your backend.. unless the port is blocked it should be fine [16:33] you'll have to have your router forward ports 6543-6547 to your masterbackend's ip address [16:33] Jester86: i ended up just getting 2 buffalo wireless routers off ebay with dd-wrt already installed... best choice i've made with routers so far i think [16:34] thats cool [16:34] it does not need ports forwarded, these are local boxes [16:34] i'm sticking w/ dlink.. this is my roommates linksys tho :-\ [16:34] seanthegeek, .. so you're staying all within the same router? [16:36] yes, the setup worked fine until the update to 9.10, that was tghe only change i made [16:36] hostname not resolving is a dns issue... requires either modifying /etc/hosts on the frontends or fixing your dns to point to the static ip [16:36] seanthegeek, are you calling out your backend by name or ip? [16:37] the frontenend was auto detecting the backend [16:38] i used to be able to ping myth.local and gget to resolve [16:38] the hostname is set to myth [16:39] seanthegeek, just get on your masterbackend and see what its ip is then put it in on ur frontends, problem solved [16:39] should be something like 192.168.1.### [16:41] it could *possibly* be that you had samba set up a certain way on the backend, frontend, or both & after the update the smb.conf file was reset to maintainers copy [16:43] possibly [16:44] windows protocol annoyingly broadcasts it's information to all the other computers in the network allowing for "auto detection" [16:46] oh, another possibility, but probably a long shot... when you initially set up the server it did a dhcp request & set it's hostname on your router with the correct ip address... when you set your backend to a static ip it stopped requesting from the router & the router just happened to flush the old record at the same time as the update? but that's assuming the static ip is the same as what the router previously set [16:50] pteague, wouldnt the easiest fix simply to be calling everything out by ip? [16:51] you figure out your backend's ip by ifconfig then just put it in the front ends and ur done [16:51] takes maybe 1 min depending on the number of front ends [16:52] i used to have 2 master backends going when i was trying to experiment with different card sets and it took me no time to switch between which backend my frontend was using [16:52] probably the best way for the average user not wanting to mess with dhcp/router & using a static ip for backend [16:53] pteague, in my experience even most dhcp setups still try to give the same ip to the same mac address too so static ip "may" not be needed [16:54] depends how many vagabonds he's got on his network really [16:55] i suppose transient is really the better word to use lol [16:56] yeah, but that's kind of dependent on the user, the router disk, & some other factors... so far i've not had any huge problems except when we had a powerline cut & the UPS the router was plugged into ran out of juice... not sure whether it was simply lack of power or something else, but router was completely reset & was trying to assign different ip addresses >.< [16:57] prob cleared his memory if it was w/o power for a while [16:57] yeah [16:57] i'm going to be doing a fresh install w/ 9.10 on both my myth machines later and when i do i'm configuring all of them for static IP anyways [16:59] i used to do that & keep all the /etc/hosts files synced, but i've got too many machines & i'm even more lazy than i used to be [16:59] haha [16:59] why bother w/ the host file? [16:59] if u call everything out by ip u dont need it ;) [17:00] i mean in all reality ur calling it out by ip regardless, just one way it has to ref ur hostfile [17:02] because i have test servers & use some host names for routing test stuff so i can push things to a different place if i need to... not to mention ssh'ing into gamma is much easier than remember that it's 192.168.1.xxx [17:02] haha [17:02] true.. [17:02] i only have 3 machines so remember ip's is pretty cake [17:03] not to mention now they're all under 1 router so i only have one external ip address to remember [17:04] for a while i had 2 modems working .. my provider sent me an extra by mistake so i had them both plugged in but after a while they caught on and blocked one's mac address lol [17:05] hehe [17:05] yeah i was kinda pissed when they caught on lol [17:06] i was like damn it.. now i gotta run a cat cable out here lol [17:06] Jester86: Please watch your language. [17:06] man they're really anal about cussing [17:06] we're all adults here why in the H.E.L.L. do we have to watch what we say? [17:09] why is hell a problem? [17:09] pteague: Please watch your language. [17:10] b/c mom'll beat ur @$$ if she catches you saying it [17:24] Jester86: this is an ubuntu room, you are supposed to speek on a family friendly level [17:24] you never know who else is in here, so assume they shouldn't be hearing any curses [17:25] thats the problem with the world today, we always have to worry about being PC and not offending someone [17:25] and they wonder why people are getting so soft [17:26] Using polite words and language doesn't make people soft, and doesn't cause problems in the world today. [17:26] just like that idiot obama thinking he could go over to the mid east and talk them into playing nice.. sure worked wonders in Iran [17:27] not only do the now have even more civil problems but they also have nuclear capabilities [17:27] brilliant! [17:28] and you don think it makes us soft when our soldiers cant handle getting yelled at by their instructors? [17:29] or when kids arent getting punished by their parents b/c its "wrong" to beat ur kids butt? [17:30] Jester86: no-one is going to engage you on this. This is a Ubuntu-based support forum for Mythtv on Ubuntu. One of the hallmarks of Ubuntu is being polite. It's as simple as that. [17:31] you take all the fun out of being a crotchedy old man you realize this? [17:33] !launguage | Jester86 [17:33] Sorry I don't know about launguage [17:33] what did i just get a language for? [17:33] !language | Jester86 [17:33] Jester86: Please follow the Ubuntu Code of Conduct and watch your language. You can find more information here: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct [17:33] those are the rules here, please follow them [17:34] i will [17:34] ok thank you [17:34] simply b/c u asked so nicely [17:34] seriously to .. what was obama thinking when he thought he could just go talk to the middle eastern nations? [17:34] tho* [17:34] Jester86: this isn't the right place to discuss that [17:35] thought he could talk to them and that it'd solve something [17:35] rhpot1991, obviously theres nothing else being discussed currently [17:35] i dunno about you but i'm rather bored just sitting here [17:35] however i do have one mythbuntu related inquiry [17:35] thats fine, but that should be discussed elsewhere [17:35] mythtv/ubuntu related topics should be discussed in here [17:36] my system acts extremely odd when i try to set a static ip [17:36] if i set the static ip via /etc/network/interfaces and restart "networking" its fine until i reboot in which case i drops back to the DHCP ip [17:37] if i go thru the gui network manager and change the IP to a static then disconnect/reconnect to the network it keeps the ip just fine.. but i cant get access out of my local network ie, no internet [17:38] i believe it has to do with my router trying to assign my mac address a specific IP despite the fact its set up for DHCP ip assignment [17:38] Jester86: when you use the gui did you go ahead and undo your changes to interfaces? [17:38] yeah i've done it both ways [17:38] and even w/ interfaces set to the same static ip [17:38] nothing works [17:38] i've mixed and matched any possiblew ay [17:39] i think it comes down to the router but i'm unsure [17:39] I'd verify that the box knows the correct gateway (your router) [17:39] and check that your router isn't doing something weird like you said [17:39] i ahve the same issue w/ ubuntu 9.10 too come to think of it [17:39] for the record I do static IP's with my router, have that hand them out to mac addresses [17:39] seems like the most sane way to deal with it [17:39] yeah [17:40] currently its not a real issue b/c it keeps giving all of my boxes the same IP so.. [17:40] even w/ dhcp it continues to give the same pc's the same ip which makes me assume its doing dynamic dhcp and is identifying prior IPs via mac address [17:40] i've not seen such bad breakage whoDat_ or mrand as of yet [17:41] just heard murmers of it [17:41] if we can find the root cause, i think it's definitely something to look into SRU'ing [17:41] Jester86: well if your box already has a lease it will keep getting the same IP [17:41] I think if you run sudo dhclient it will request a new IP [17:42] wel my fear is that i'll suffer a power outage and it will be reassigned a different ip [17:42] your router should setup how long that lease lives for as well [17:42] yes i know but i have restarted the router and been given the same ip [17:43] ive heard that if you lose power for an extended period of time then it wont keep in its memory what mac had was ip prior tho [17:43] i may just have to set the router to operate static.. [17:43] but its not my router, its my roommates, so I'm a little :-\ of messing w/ the configurations [17:43] but if its what i have to do, i have to do [17:45] Anyone experiencing problems with LCDd and mythlcdserver in 9.10 [17:45] my iMON LCD switches from mythlcdserver view and the standard LCDproc heartbeat view all the time... [17:45] Jester86: I'd ask your room mate to sit down and look at it with you, really sounds like a router issue [17:46] sebrock_: hmmm I never got around to setting my iMON LCD up, I'll have to get to that and let you know [17:46] yeah i know rhpot1991 [17:46] whats the 1991 stand for anyway rhpot1991 [17:46] 9.10 makes it a breeze, but I dont know why it is swapping views all the time, needs investigation [17:47] Jester86: rhpot = robin hood prince of thieves, 1991 year it was made [17:47] was my favorite movie some time ago, been using the nick every since [17:48] anyone having issues with video manager.. i cant put in the imdb number for movies.. well i can but it doesn't do anything when i do [17:48] Jester86: they shouldn't be imdb numbers anymore, they should be from tmdb I think [17:48] hate to say it rhpot1991 but you dont typically put an o in for of.. lol [17:48] hmm [17:48] http://www.themoviedb.org/ [17:49] that'd explain the issue lol [17:49] so do u just really like that movie or whats the story w/ the name lol [17:49] i mean mine is just my call sign [17:49] had to pick pick a name to use on the interweb, this is what I came up with and have been living with it ever since [17:50] and yes I do enjoy the movie, but its no longer my favorite [17:50] ohh [17:50] men in tights was pretty funny too [17:50] never seen actually [17:51] for the tmdb is it just the # at the end of the url? [17:52] bc that number didnt work either\ [17:53] Jester86: I think so, I haven't done a manual entry at this point in .22 yet though [17:53] let me try one [17:53] alright [17:53] thanks [17:53] i'm having an issue of it only pulling the background and not the cover also for some.. i cant do any manual entries tho [17:55] ya manual number didn't work here [17:55] it makes no sense that for the auto search thing u can do oceans 12 and oceans 13 but for 11 you have to have ocean's eleven [17:55] well what the junk [17:55] why put it in if it doesnt work? [17:55] seems like thats what everyone is doing now [17:56] everyone is in a hurry to push stuff out the door it gets pushed out b4 tis done [17:56] have the same issue at my engineering firm [17:56] some of the old timers say they've noticed it in everything over the past decade [17:57] from automobiles to operating systems [17:57] thinking that might not be the right id [17:57] i dunno [17:57] what other id would it be? [17:57] didt seem to have any specific id [17:57] unless you need movies/### [17:58] yep definately not [17:58] that way it knwos its a movie and not a recorded television show [17:58] whats the actual # then? [17:58] or where rather [17:58] if you do /usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/tmdb.pl -M [17:58] it will show you the ID [17:58] which doesn't match the URL [17:59] hmm [17:59] says no file [18:00] or command rather [18:01] Jester86: ya just need to figure out how to get that number from the web interface [18:01] I gotta run, ping me if you figure out, I'll look into it more later [18:01] Jester86: might be helpful to ask in #mythtv-users if you can't wait [18:01] alright c ya [19:59] where does mythfrontend automaticly start up from? can't find the startup file for it. [20:03] whoDat_: We already had this discussion, was there something else you needed? [20:04] hads: sorry, I must have missed your reply [20:04] I am still digging for it lol [20:04] You answered me at the time :) [20:04] It's in ~/.config/autostart/ [20:06] I was sleeptalking ;) [20:08] hehe [20:08] thanks again lol. i removed the mythtv.desktop file [20:08] No worries :) [20:25] hads: i have duals creens set up now and i didnt want myth frontend loading on both screens... [20:27] It should only open on one. [20:27] not with my setup, i am running a seperate x server on each screen. [20:27] Ah [20:29] I bought one of those 7" usb monitors and hooked it up to my mythtv system. its pretty cool, just sits on the stand beside the couch, use it for watching downloads, etc. [20:29] but it doesn't like extended desktop mode, it only works if its the main monitor. so I just created a seperate X server for it. [20:50] hi everyone, I can't get my remote working in mythbuntu 9.10. i have a Wintv-nova-s-hs card from Hauppauge. [20:50] tv works [20:50] everything works but the remote controll [21:50] hi [21:50] i can't get my remote working in mythbuntu [21:51] could use some help [21:55] TV works in 9.04 and 9.10 [21:55] only problem is the remote [22:05] hello [22:06] anyone could help me setting up my remote in mythbuntu? [22:06] !forums | torz [22:06] torz: The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301. If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help. [22:07] its normally easier to find hardware help on the forums as well, more likely to find some one there with the same hardware [22:08] i have checked lots of forums [22:08] found nothing so far [22:09] found lots of links to sites already taken down [22:09] post a new thread [22:09] with your issues [22:09] and wait for someone to respond [22:09] i've been trying to get this remote to work for 3 days [22:09] yeh done that [22:09] make sure to put it in the mythbuntu forums, linked above [22:09] never mind [22:10] ok will do [22:11] thanls [23:26] how many lircd daemons should I see running at one time? I have two, and I'm troubleshooting the IR Blaster. IRW decodes OK. [23:35] . [23:57] mrand, I think I may be getting closer with my imon lirc issue and udev see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=549379