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cellofellowhow do I see the futon interface for my instance of desktop-couch? There used to be a ~/.local/share/desktop-couch/couchdb.html file but that's gone.02:16
cody-somervilleIs it possible to create lucid chroots yet? I'm getting: diff: PreDepends: diffutils but it is not installed02:59
gnomefreakcody-somerville: diff was held back because it needed to add packages (if that is what the above means)03:03
gnomefreakinstall it directly and it installs03:04
gnomefreaktrying now03:08
lamontNov  7 18:02:11 rover3 avahi-daemon[1069]: Invalid query packet.03:13
lamontCan I have a little more detail please, avahi?03:13
gnomefreakcody-somerville: i ran into it just run apt-get -f install and it fixes it03:29
jdongis there a decent way for per-user upstart jobs04:45
jdonglike what OS X / launchd allows?04:45
jdongI'd like a per-user service to respawn when it crashes, and figured while I could write a script to do that, it'd be cooler if the user had control over it04:45
ionIt’s in TODO. :-P04:49
jdongion: yay? ;-)05:06
ionDunno wherher Keybuk’s planning to implement that for 0.10 or after.05:08
macoplanning for 2100 already? O_O05:09
JanCit shouldn't be too difficult to add that06:13
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ramblagirIs there a development tools CD image somewhere? I want to install some development tools on my Ubuntu computer but it's not connected to the internet.15:30
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salty-horseafter upgrading to 9.10, wireshark no longer has a "run as root" desktop file. is this on purpose? (I think ScottK is the packager)16:49
ScottKsalty-horse: It was an intentional change by Debian or upstream, I don't recall.16:50
salty-horsewhat am I supposed to do with wireshark without root? should I give my desktop user the necessary  permissions?16:51
ScottKI guess open a shell and gksudo or kdesudo wireshark.16:52
Laney   * removed wireshark-root.desktop to discourage running Wireshark as root16:53
salty-horseLaney, thanks. I didn't find it while looking through https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wireshark/+changelog16:53
superm1it doesn't help though that significant parts of the tool need root16:56
dtchensuperm1: right, different distros have taken approaches like giving users the necessary caps and restricting them via selinux, smack, etc.17:21
dtchenhyperair: WRT cracking and ppc, yes, it's a known issue, and it doesn't just affect ppc. However, it's unclear whether it's a driver issue, a library issue, or a PA issue17:22
dtchencrackling*17:23
hyperairdtchen: er what?17:23
dtchenhyperair: please file a bug (affecting linux -- ubuntu-bug alsa-base and then retriage it to affect linux)17:23
dtchenhyperair: sorry17:23
hyperairwait, what's this about cracking?17:24
hyperairand ppc?17:24
* hyperair attempts to understand17:24
dtchenhyperair: finger-rot. It was supposed to be addressed to slytherin.17:24
hyperairaah17:24
hyperairokay17:24
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MattJ_Is there a way to see a human-readable list of patches that have been applied to a package in Ubuntu, specifically libssl in my case18:15
MattJ_?18:15
ionhttp://patches.ubuntu.com/o/openssl/18:17
djsiegel1pitti: hello19:26
djsiegel1pitti: was beeping improved in karmic? it seems to be, and I'd like to mark bug #77010 fixed19:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 77010 in hundredpapercuts "Overuse of system beep without volume control" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/7701019:27
macopossibly the hardware beep was disabled?19:29
MattJ_Thanks ion :)19:30
dtchenmaco: / djsiegel1: no, and no.19:39
dtchenthere was a rather hackish workaround applied19:39
djsiegel1dtchen: but is there improvement for users?19:39
djsiegel1I have heard fewer beeps19:39
dtchenbut, if you ... well, you've already marked it Fix Released, so I won't comment further19:39
djsiegel1or is it my imagination19:39
djsiegel1no, please comment further19:39
macohahaha19:40
djsiegel1If we've significantly curbed occurrences of the hardware beep, and a stronger fix is on track for Lucid, I would consider it fixed19:40
djsiegel1but if we didn't cut down on the beeps, I will revert to unfixed, dtchen19:41
dtchenyou've papered over the symptom, yes. You haven't fixed the cause.19:42
djsiegel1ok, "papered over" sounds great for a paper cut :)19:42
dtchenthe fix for the cause won't land until 2.6.33 at the earliest.19:42
dtchenreally, you're a better judge of whether the paper cut was resolved19:43
djsiegel1As far as status in hundredpapercuts is concerned, if the users feel less pain and discomfort, it's a win.19:43
dtchensure19:43
dtchenI just want to warn you that there are changes on the horizon that will break this workaround further19:44
djsiegel1I know it feels dirty to celebrate a dirty hack job...19:44
dtchenagain, you're the better job of paper cuts19:44
dtchens/job/judge/19:45
sladendjsiegel1: yeah, but instead of a low latency, short hardware beep there is a now a high-latency, 800 msecond software beep with longer (150 msec) before it starts playing than the total length of the hwardware beep19:45
djsiegel1sladen, then that's a new paper cut. As long as the beep is played at the user-controllable volume label, that is great19:45
djsiegel1this particular paper cut is just aimed at the heinously lound hardware beep, but I agree there is more work to be done on beeps in general :)19:46
osirisany chances the 70ba2a374704e00df8868a7ac3d7350329d28924 (32bit ioctl compat fix for radeon drm) will get into the ubuntu kernel?19:51
dtchenosiris: file a bug affecting linux19:53
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dmbis there daily builds for the next version of ubuntu yet?21:42
chrisccoulsondmb - not yet. checking http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/ would tell you this though ;)21:44
dmbchrisccoulson, have uploads started (i don't know if the topic is old or not)21:45
chrisccoulsondmb - yes. the title says "Archive: lucid open for uploads"21:46
chrisccoulsonand if you're interested, you should be subscribed to the lucid-changes list21:46
dmboh, so thats the new name!21:46
dmbok, i'm done :)21:47
ryanakcaWhat importance would bug 264313 be?21:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 264313 in coreutils "ls --color hangs for directories linked from network " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26431321:48
ryanakcaMedium or High?21:49
dmbi would say high, but thats just me22:00
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ryanakcadmb: OK23:30
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