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cellofellow | how do I see the futon interface for my instance of desktop-couch? There used to be a ~/.local/share/desktop-couch/couchdb.html file but that's gone. | 02:16 |
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cody-somerville | Is it possible to create lucid chroots yet? I'm getting: diff: PreDepends: diffutils but it is not installed | 02:59 |
gnomefreak | cody-somerville: diff was held back because it needed to add packages (if that is what the above means) | 03:03 |
gnomefreak | install it directly and it installs | 03:04 |
gnomefreak | trying now | 03:08 |
lamont | Nov 7 18:02:11 rover3 avahi-daemon[1069]: Invalid query packet. | 03:13 |
lamont | Can I have a little more detail please, avahi? | 03:13 |
gnomefreak | cody-somerville: i ran into it just run apt-get -f install and it fixes it | 03:29 |
jdong | is there a decent way for per-user upstart jobs | 04:45 |
jdong | like what OS X / launchd allows? | 04:45 |
jdong | I'd like a per-user service to respawn when it crashes, and figured while I could write a script to do that, it'd be cooler if the user had control over it | 04:45 |
ion | It’s in TODO. :-P | 04:49 |
jdong | ion: yay? ;-) | 05:06 |
ion | Dunno wherher Keybuk’s planning to implement that for 0.10 or after. | 05:08 |
maco | planning for 2100 already? O_O | 05:09 |
JanC | it shouldn't be too difficult to add that | 06:13 |
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ramblagir | Is there a development tools CD image somewhere? I want to install some development tools on my Ubuntu computer but it's not connected to the internet. | 15:30 |
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salty-horse | after upgrading to 9.10, wireshark no longer has a "run as root" desktop file. is this on purpose? (I think ScottK is the packager) | 16:49 |
ScottK | salty-horse: It was an intentional change by Debian or upstream, I don't recall. | 16:50 |
salty-horse | what am I supposed to do with wireshark without root? should I give my desktop user the necessary permissions? | 16:51 |
ScottK | I guess open a shell and gksudo or kdesudo wireshark. | 16:52 |
Laney | * removed wireshark-root.desktop to discourage running Wireshark as root | 16:53 |
salty-horse | Laney, thanks. I didn't find it while looking through https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wireshark/+changelog | 16:53 |
superm1 | it doesn't help though that significant parts of the tool need root | 16:56 |
dtchen | superm1: right, different distros have taken approaches like giving users the necessary caps and restricting them via selinux, smack, etc. | 17:21 |
dtchen | hyperair: WRT cracking and ppc, yes, it's a known issue, and it doesn't just affect ppc. However, it's unclear whether it's a driver issue, a library issue, or a PA issue | 17:22 |
dtchen | crackling* | 17:23 |
hyperair | dtchen: er what? | 17:23 |
dtchen | hyperair: please file a bug (affecting linux -- ubuntu-bug alsa-base and then retriage it to affect linux) | 17:23 |
dtchen | hyperair: sorry | 17:23 |
hyperair | wait, what's this about cracking? | 17:24 |
hyperair | and ppc? | 17:24 |
* hyperair attempts to understand | 17:24 | |
dtchen | hyperair: finger-rot. It was supposed to be addressed to slytherin. | 17:24 |
hyperair | aah | 17:24 |
hyperair | okay | 17:24 |
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MattJ_ | Is there a way to see a human-readable list of patches that have been applied to a package in Ubuntu, specifically libssl in my case | 18:15 |
MattJ_ | ? | 18:15 |
ion | http://patches.ubuntu.com/o/openssl/ | 18:17 |
djsiegel1 | pitti: hello | 19:26 |
djsiegel1 | pitti: was beeping improved in karmic? it seems to be, and I'd like to mark bug #77010 fixed | 19:27 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 77010 in hundredpapercuts "Overuse of system beep without volume control" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77010 | 19:27 |
maco | possibly the hardware beep was disabled? | 19:29 |
MattJ_ | Thanks ion :) | 19:30 |
dtchen | maco: / djsiegel1: no, and no. | 19:39 |
dtchen | there was a rather hackish workaround applied | 19:39 |
djsiegel1 | dtchen: but is there improvement for users? | 19:39 |
djsiegel1 | I have heard fewer beeps | 19:39 |
dtchen | but, if you ... well, you've already marked it Fix Released, so I won't comment further | 19:39 |
djsiegel1 | or is it my imagination | 19:39 |
djsiegel1 | no, please comment further | 19:39 |
maco | hahaha | 19:40 |
djsiegel1 | If we've significantly curbed occurrences of the hardware beep, and a stronger fix is on track for Lucid, I would consider it fixed | 19:40 |
djsiegel1 | but if we didn't cut down on the beeps, I will revert to unfixed, dtchen | 19:41 |
dtchen | you've papered over the symptom, yes. You haven't fixed the cause. | 19:42 |
djsiegel1 | ok, "papered over" sounds great for a paper cut :) | 19:42 |
dtchen | the fix for the cause won't land until 2.6.33 at the earliest. | 19:42 |
dtchen | really, you're a better judge of whether the paper cut was resolved | 19:43 |
djsiegel1 | As far as status in hundredpapercuts is concerned, if the users feel less pain and discomfort, it's a win. | 19:43 |
dtchen | sure | 19:43 |
dtchen | I just want to warn you that there are changes on the horizon that will break this workaround further | 19:44 |
djsiegel1 | I know it feels dirty to celebrate a dirty hack job... | 19:44 |
dtchen | again, you're the better job of paper cuts | 19:44 |
dtchen | s/job/judge/ | 19:45 |
sladen | djsiegel1: yeah, but instead of a low latency, short hardware beep there is a now a high-latency, 800 msecond software beep with longer (150 msec) before it starts playing than the total length of the hwardware beep | 19:45 |
djsiegel1 | sladen, then that's a new paper cut. As long as the beep is played at the user-controllable volume label, that is great | 19:45 |
djsiegel1 | this particular paper cut is just aimed at the heinously lound hardware beep, but I agree there is more work to be done on beeps in general :) | 19:46 |
osiris | any chances the 70ba2a374704e00df8868a7ac3d7350329d28924 (32bit ioctl compat fix for radeon drm) will get into the ubuntu kernel? | 19:51 |
dtchen | osiris: file a bug affecting linux | 19:53 |
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dmb | is there daily builds for the next version of ubuntu yet? | 21:42 |
chrisccoulson | dmb - not yet. checking http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/ would tell you this though ;) | 21:44 |
dmb | chrisccoulson, have uploads started (i don't know if the topic is old or not) | 21:45 |
chrisccoulson | dmb - yes. the title says "Archive: lucid open for uploads" | 21:46 |
chrisccoulson | and if you're interested, you should be subscribed to the lucid-changes list | 21:46 |
dmb | oh, so thats the new name! | 21:46 |
dmb | ok, i'm done :) | 21:47 |
ryanakca | What importance would bug 264313 be? | 21:48 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 264313 in coreutils "ls --color hangs for directories linked from network " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/264313 | 21:48 |
ryanakca | Medium or High? | 21:49 |
dmb | i would say high, but thats just me | 22:00 |
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ryanakca | dmb: OK | 23:30 |
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