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| gouki | Can someone please remove locobot_1 from #ubuntu-pt? | 00:14 |
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| LjL | gouki: uhm, i suppose you might have better luck asking that in #ubuntu-eu. but anyway, i thought it was pretty standard common practice to have a locobot in the loco. | 00:16 |
| LjL | channels. | 00:16 |
| niko | 41 | 00:36 |
| Seeker` | 42? | 00:37 |
| niko | oh, you probably have the question so ? :p | 00:41 |
| === stochastic_ is now known as stochastic | ||
| CosmiChaos | hello | 18:41 |
| CosmiChaos | Kann nicht beitreten #ubuntu-de (Sie sind gebannt). | 18:41 |
| CosmiChaos | Kann nicht beitreten #ubuntu-de-offtopic (Sie sind gebannt). | 18:41 |
| CosmiChaos | i would like to ask for unban please | 18:41 |
| CosmiChaos | its month ago | 18:41 |
| CosmiChaos | monthes | 18:41 |
| CosmiChaos | any op there? | 18:43 |
| jussio1 | CosmiChaos: please be patient, not every op looks here all the time. | 18:48 |
| CosmiChaos | ok | 18:49 |
| jussio1 | CosmiChaos: I think TheInfinity may be able to help you. | 18:52 |
| TheInfinity | hmm ... yea? @ #ubuntu-de unban | 18:52 |
| jussio1 | TheInfinity: he was active 3 mins ago. Hope you guys can connect and get sorted. :) | 18:53 |
| CosmiChaos | hello TheInfinity | 18:55 |
| CosmiChaos | Kann nicht beitreten #ubuntu-de (Sie sind gebannt). | 18:55 |
| CosmiChaos | Kann nicht beitreten #ubuntu-de-offtopic (Sie sind gebannt). | 18:55 |
| CosmiChaos | bitte lass mich wieder rein | 18:55 |
| ZykoticK9 | A user in #ubuntu named WACOMalt just suggested a channel be created for WUBI installations - I do think this would be a good idea. As a regular in #ubuntu I completly ignore ALL WUBI issues, as I'd never run them [he just arrived in the channel!] | 19:46 |
| WACOMalt | I would like to request that a Wubi support channel be created. I feel that so many people are using it that it would be a great addition. | 19:47 |
| WACOMalt | ZykoticK9: beat me to it | 19:47 |
| ZykoticK9 | WACOMalt, with full credit! | 19:47 |
| WACOMalt | :) thanks | 19:47 |
| WACOMalt | yeah, the typical response seems to be to ignore all wubi issues in #ubuntu | 19:48 |
| ZykoticK9 | WACOMalt, i wouldn't go near one with a thirty foot pole, but i've only run WUBI once for my father's computer and wasn't impressed | 19:48 |
| erUSUL | that's becouse of lack of knowledge; most advanced users (the ones that help) do not use wubi they do proper instals | 19:49 |
| erUSUL | so we do not know a witt about how wubi works od what its problens are | 19:49 |
| ZykoticK9 | erUSUL, beyond that - I don't think the idea of running Ubuntu "inside" (and thus dependent on) another OS is a good idea, but I also the tremendous advantage to opening up Ubuntu exposure with such a tool brings. | 19:51 |
| nalioth | it's a two way street | 19:51 |
| nalioth | i personally don't like it | 19:51 |
| erUSUL | ZykoticK9: i'm not discussing the usefullness of wubi. i'm just stating that the fact that there is no help with wubi in #ubuntu is not becouse we somehow refuse to give it by "policy" but becouse we just do not know about it well enough. | 19:52 |
| WACOMalt | erUSUL: I know the limitations of wubi, and have seen it's bugs. I knew from the git that it probably was not a great idea. But I need help getting it to run so I can sonvert it to a physical partition. | 19:52 |
| ZykoticK9 | erUSUL, agreed! thus a separate irc channel would be a good idea! i feel bad for anyone with WUBI issues - mainly because I can't help... | 19:53 |
| WACOMalt | the only issues in wubi are pretty common and the same for most users. I can list them easily. The answers would be easy to find if there were a consistant way to ask for help on wubi | 19:53 |
| erUSUL | again, i do not help with wubi becouse i have not used it never ever. is that simple and that is true for most helpers in the chanel (imho). | 19:54 |
| erUSUL | a new channel wont change that | 19:54 |
| LjL | the consistent way is to ask about it on #ubuntu | 19:54 |
| LjL | if you spot a wubi question, you can report it to #ubuntu-meta | 19:54 |
| LjL | where if other people who do know Wubi-related answers are... well, things fix themselves | 19:54 |
| WACOMalt | but the thing is, there ARE users who know about wubi. They may even be in #ubuntu, but it's so overflodded nothing gets seen | 19:55 |
| LjL | which is why i suggest #ubuntu-meta | 19:55 |
| LjL | that's exactly the reason it was created | 19:55 |
| WACOMalt | LjL: what is ubuntu-meta based on? | 19:55 |
| LjL | filtering noise and letting people extract questions that are relevant to them | 19:55 |
| ZykoticK9 | WACOMalt, erUSUL WACOMalt statement that "most" WUBI issues apply to all ubuntu -- But look how we treat +1 people in the main #ubuntu channel we sent them to #ubuntu+1 even if their issues are "general" sometimes | 19:55 |
| LjL | WACOMalt: uh, it's a channel, it's based on users. | 19:55 |
| erUSUL | WACOMalt: for the #ubuntu is over-flooded problem see --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392799 | 19:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 392799 in ubuntu-community "#ubuntu too noisy to be useful" [Medium,Confirmed] | 19:55 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 392799 in ubuntu-community "#ubuntu too noisy to be useful" [Medium,Confirmed] | 19:55 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 392799 in ubuntu-community "#ubuntu too noisy to be useful" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/392799 | 19:55 |
| LjL | bot overflood =( | 19:55 |
| * erUSUL o.0! XD | 19:55 | |
| WACOMalt | LjL: well I mean does it have a topic? or is it just overflow control? | 19:56 |
| LjL | WACOMalt: it has a topic. you can type (as with all channels) /topic #ubuntu-meta to learn about it | 19:56 |
| LjL | its topic is "catching" questions that go lost in #ubuntu | 19:57 |
| LjL | it has a bot to help with that, too | 19:57 |
| WACOMalt | I did not know of that irc command. That is incredibly useful :P thank you for that. I'll head over there now | 19:57 |
| WACOMalt | (notice) [#ubuntu-meta] This is NOT a support channel - Please read the channel topic (type « /topic ») carefully before speaking! | 19:58 |
| WACOMalt | well dang | 19:58 |
| ZykoticK9 | WACOMalt, 's statement about overflodded aside! I think the idea for an #ubuntu-wubi channel is a very good idea! Take care Channel i've never been too before. | 19:58 |
| WACOMalt | lol | 19:58 |
| WACOMalt | thanks ZykoticK9 | 19:58 |
| LjL | if one specific channel is made for wubi, then why not also make one for nvidia? | 19:58 |
| LjL | one for wireless? | 19:58 |
| LjL | one for "netcat"? | 19:58 |
| LjL | one for how to switch keyboard layouts? etc | 19:58 |
| WACOMalt | I immagine the number of users? nvidia doesn;t make sense because nvidia has their own support channels | 19:59 |
| WACOMalt | wireless actually gets help in #ubuntu | 19:59 |
| LjL | i really don't think the nvidia support channel supports people using the nvidia driver packaged by ubuntu, though... | 19:59 |
| WACOMalt | netcat (since I havent heard of it) I assume has too few issues arize to need it;s own channel | 20:00 |
| erUSUL | WACOMalt: you may want to create #wubi yourself ? | 20:00 |
| WACOMalt | LjL: well I havent seen many questions regading nvidia drivers on #ubuntu actually. I guess they just work to easily? | 20:00 |
| nalioth | erUSUL: please don't do that | 20:01 |
| nalioth | erUSUL: that is against freenode policies | 20:01 |
| WACOMalt | erUSUL I was planning too, I just didn't know if it was allowed | 20:01 |
| LjL | WACOMalt: eh, i guess these days perhaps there might be less than there used to be, i dunno. | 20:01 |
| WACOMalt | nalioth: Gotcha | 20:01 |
| erUSUL | nalioth: ok; sorry did not know | 20:01 |
| niko | WACOMalt: see http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#channelnaming | 20:01 |
| nalioth | WACOMalt: you may register ##wubi or ##ubuntu-wubi ir ##whatever ##you ##like (so long as it's got two ## in front of it) | 20:01 |
| LjL | #wubi is actually already registered, anyway | 20:01 |
| WACOMalt | LjL: my bad actually on that one | 20:02 |
| WACOMalt | LjL: I didn't know about the ## requirement | 20:02 |
| m4v | even if you create a #ubuntu-wubi channel, you still have to fill it with people that know about to wubi | 20:02 |
| m4v | so creating just a channel isn't enough | 20:02 |
| WACOMalt | which isn't hard if people know it exists. And I see no way that it would hurt any of the other channels (especially if people know about it) | 20:03 |
| WACOMalt | easy as: wubi question, hey, go to #ubuntu-wubi. (user moves channels) | 20:03 |
| erUSUL | m4v: nailed it; that was i was trying to say all along. wubi help is scarce becouse advanced users do not use it. period | 20:03 |
| erUSUL | WACOMalt: ^ | 20:04 |
| WACOMalt | understood | 20:04 |
| erUSUL | WACOMalt: and you end up with a channel full of users asking an none answering ... | 20:04 |
| WACOMalt | just because you have one question doesnt mean you can't know the answer to another | 20:05 |
| WACOMalt | yes, no power users, but at least a bigger force of brute-force fixing :P | 20:05 |
| WACOMalt | erm... brute force... trying to fix... | 20:05 |
| erUSUL | ok; fair enough. Good luck then ;) | 20:06 |
| WACOMalt | Thanks. Can I post anything anywhere saying this exists? (noting that it is an independant channel not operated or maintained by ubuntu irc panel) | 20:07 |
| nalioth | WACOMalt: got a blog? | 20:07 |
| WACOMalt | :P ok, so that's a no. I meant like, maybe a post in the ubuntu offtopic forums or something | 20:07 |
| WACOMalt | (I won't muck up your support forums) | 20:07 |
| nalioth | WACOMalt: /msg nickserv help set property | 20:07 |
| WACOMalt | huh? | 20:08 |
| WACOMalt | what does that do? | 20:08 |
| nalioth | WACOMalt: it asked nickserv to school you in the "property" setting | 20:08 |
| nalioth | WACOMalt: /ns info nalioth for an example | 20:08 |
| WACOMalt | oh | 20:08 |
| WACOMalt | unknown command | 20:09 |
| WACOMalt | there it is | 20:09 |
| WACOMalt | nickserv, gotcha | 20:09 |
| WACOMalt | cool | 20:10 |
| WACOMalt | can I do a single post in the #ubuntu channel saying I'm starting ##wubi? | 20:10 |
| WACOMalt | Man, I got really off topic here. I was trying to fix my computer :P | 20:11 |
| k1l | CosmiChaos, ping? | 20:52 |
| CosmiChaos | huhu | 20:52 |
| CosmiChaos | wie eghts? | 20:52 |
| k1l | query? | 20:52 |
| CosmiChaos | gern | 20:52 |
| CosmiChaos | dann geh ich mal wieder raus | 20:53 |
| LjL | i see. | 23:16 |
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