[00:14] <gouki> Can someone please remove locobot_1 from #ubuntu-pt?
[00:16] <LjL> gouki: uhm, i suppose you might have better luck asking that in #ubuntu-eu. but anyway, i thought it was pretty standard common practice to have a locobot in the loco.
[00:16] <LjL> channels.
[00:36] <niko> 41
[00:37] <Seeker`> 42?
[00:41] <niko> oh, you probably have the question so ? :p
[18:41] <CosmiChaos> hello
[18:41] <CosmiChaos>   Kann nicht beitreten #ubuntu-de (Sie sind gebannt).
[18:41] <CosmiChaos>   Kann nicht beitreten #ubuntu-de-offtopic (Sie sind gebannt).
[18:41] <CosmiChaos>  i would like to ask for unban please
[18:41] <CosmiChaos>  its month ago
[18:41] <CosmiChaos>  monthes
[18:43] <CosmiChaos> any op there?
[18:48] <jussio1> CosmiChaos: please be patient, not every op looks here all the time.
[18:49] <CosmiChaos> ok
[18:52] <jussio1> CosmiChaos: I think TheInfinity may be able to help you.
[18:52] <TheInfinity> hmm ... yea? @ #ubuntu-de unban
[18:53] <jussio1> TheInfinity: he was active 3 mins ago. Hope you guys can connect and get sorted. :)
[18:55] <CosmiChaos> hello TheInfinity
[18:55] <CosmiChaos>  Kann nicht beitreten #ubuntu-de (Sie sind gebannt).
[18:55] <CosmiChaos>    Kann nicht beitreten #ubuntu-de-offtopic (Sie sind gebannt).
[18:55] <CosmiChaos> bitte lass mich wieder rein
[19:46] <ZykoticK9> A user in #ubuntu named WACOMalt just suggested a channel be created for WUBI installations - I do think this would be a good idea.  As a regular in #ubuntu I completly ignore ALL WUBI issues, as I'd never run them [he just arrived in the channel!]
[19:47] <WACOMalt> I would like to request that a Wubi support channel be created.  I feel that so many people are using it that it would be a great addition.
[19:47] <WACOMalt> ZykoticK9: beat me to it
[19:47] <ZykoticK9> WACOMalt, with full credit!
[19:47] <WACOMalt> :) thanks
[19:48] <WACOMalt> yeah, the typical response seems to be to ignore all wubi issues in #ubuntu
[19:48] <ZykoticK9> WACOMalt, i wouldn't go near one with a thirty foot pole, but i've only run WUBI once for my father's computer and wasn't impressed
[19:49] <erUSUL> that's becouse of lack of knowledge; most advanced users (the ones that help) do not use wubi they do proper instals
[19:49] <erUSUL> so we do not know a witt about how wubi works od what its problens are
[19:51] <ZykoticK9> erUSUL, beyond that - I don't think the idea of running Ubuntu "inside" (and thus dependent on) another OS is a good idea, but I also the tremendous advantage to opening up Ubuntu exposure with such a tool brings.
[19:51] <nalioth> it's a two way street
[19:51] <nalioth> i personally don't like it
[19:52] <erUSUL> ZykoticK9: i'm not discussing the usefullness of wubi. i'm just stating that the fact that there is no help with wubi in #ubuntu is not becouse we somehow refuse to give it by "policy" but becouse we just do not know about it well enough.
[19:52] <WACOMalt> erUSUL:  I know the limitations of wubi, and have seen it's bugs. I knew from the git that it probably was not a great idea. But I need help getting it to run so I can sonvert it to a physical partition.
[19:53] <ZykoticK9> erUSUL, agreed!  thus a separate irc channel would be a good idea!  i feel bad for anyone with WUBI issues - mainly because I can't help...
[19:53] <WACOMalt> the only issues in wubi are pretty common and the same for most users. I can list them easily.  The answers would be easy to find if there were a consistant way to ask for help on wubi
[19:54] <erUSUL> again, i do not help with wubi becouse i have not used it never ever. is that simple and that is true for most helpers in the chanel (imho).
[19:54] <erUSUL> a new channel wont change that
[19:54] <LjL> the consistent way is to ask about it on #ubuntu
[19:54] <LjL> if you spot a wubi question, you can report it to #ubuntu-meta
[19:54] <LjL> where if other people who do know Wubi-related answers are... well, things fix themselves
[19:55] <WACOMalt> but the thing is, there ARE users who know about wubi. They may even be in #ubuntu, but it's so overflodded nothing gets seen
[19:55] <LjL> which is why i suggest #ubuntu-meta
[19:55] <LjL> that's exactly the reason it was created
[19:55] <WACOMalt> LjL: what is ubuntu-meta based on?
[19:55] <LjL> filtering noise and letting people extract questions that are relevant to them
[19:55] <ZykoticK9> WACOMalt, erUSUL WACOMalt statement that "most" WUBI issues apply to all ubuntu -- But look how we treat +1 people in the main #ubuntu channel we sent them to #ubuntu+1 even if their issues are "general" sometimes
[19:55] <LjL> WACOMalt: uh, it's a channel, it's based on users.
[19:55] <erUSUL> WACOMalt: for the #ubuntu is over-flooded problem see --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392799
[19:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 392799 in ubuntu-community "#ubuntu too noisy to be useful" [Medium,Confirmed]
[19:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 392799 in ubuntu-community "#ubuntu too noisy to be useful" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/392799
[19:55] <LjL> bot overflood =(
[19:55]  * erUSUL o.0! XD
[19:56] <WACOMalt> LjL:  well I mean does it have a topic? or is it just overflow control?
[19:56] <LjL> WACOMalt: it has a topic. you can type (as with all channels) /topic #ubuntu-meta to learn about it
[19:57] <LjL> its topic is "catching" questions that go lost in #ubuntu
[19:57] <LjL> it has a bot to help with that, too
[19:57] <WACOMalt> I did not know of that irc command. That is incredibly useful :P  thank you for that. I'll head over there now
[19:58] <WACOMalt> (notice) [#ubuntu-meta] This is NOT a support channel - Please read the channel topic (type « /topic ») carefully before speaking!
[19:58] <WACOMalt> well dang
[19:58] <ZykoticK9> WACOMalt,  's statement about overflodded aside!  I think the idea for an #ubuntu-wubi channel is a very good idea!  Take care Channel i've never been too before.
[19:58] <WACOMalt> lol
[19:58] <WACOMalt> thanks ZykoticK9
[19:58] <LjL> if one specific channel is made for wubi, then why not also make one for nvidia?
[19:58] <LjL> one for wireless?
[19:58] <LjL> one for "netcat"?
[19:58] <LjL> one for how to switch keyboard layouts? etc
[19:59] <WACOMalt> I immagine the number of users?  nvidia doesn;t make sense because nvidia has their own support channels
[19:59] <WACOMalt> wireless actually gets help in #ubuntu
[19:59] <LjL> i really don't think the nvidia support channel supports people using the nvidia driver packaged by ubuntu, though...
[20:00] <WACOMalt> netcat (since I havent heard of it) I assume has too few issues arize to need it;s own channel
[20:00] <erUSUL> WACOMalt: you may want to create #wubi yourself ?
[20:00] <WACOMalt> LjL: well I havent seen many questions regading nvidia drivers on #ubuntu actually. I guess they just work to easily?
[20:01] <nalioth> erUSUL: please don't do that
[20:01] <nalioth> erUSUL: that is against freenode policies
[20:01] <WACOMalt> erUSUL I was planning too, I just didn't know if it was allowed
[20:01] <LjL> WACOMalt: eh, i guess these days perhaps there might be less than there used to be, i dunno.
[20:01] <WACOMalt> nalioth: Gotcha
[20:01] <erUSUL> nalioth: ok; sorry did not know
[20:01] <niko> WACOMalt: see http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#channelnaming
[20:01] <nalioth> WACOMalt: you may register ##wubi or ##ubuntu-wubi ir ##whatever ##you ##like (so long as it's got two ## in front of it)
[20:01] <LjL> #wubi is actually already registered, anyway
[20:02] <WACOMalt> LjL: my bad actually on that one
[20:02] <WACOMalt> LjL: I didn't know about the ## requirement
[20:02] <m4v> even if you create a #ubuntu-wubi channel, you still have to fill it with people that know about to wubi
[20:02] <m4v> so creating just a channel isn't enough
[20:03] <WACOMalt> which isn't hard if people know it exists. And I see no way that it would hurt any of the other channels (especially if people know about it)
[20:03] <WACOMalt> easy as:  wubi question, hey, go to #ubuntu-wubi.   (user moves channels)
[20:03] <erUSUL> m4v: nailed it; that was i was trying to say all along. wubi help is scarce becouse advanced users do not use it. period
[20:04] <erUSUL> WACOMalt: ^
[20:04] <WACOMalt> understood
[20:04] <erUSUL> WACOMalt: and you end up with a channel full of users asking an none answering ...
[20:05] <WACOMalt> just because you have one question doesnt mean you can't know the answer to another
[20:05] <WACOMalt> yes, no power users, but at least a bigger force of brute-force fixing :P
[20:05] <WACOMalt> erm... brute force... trying to fix...
[20:06] <erUSUL> ok; fair enough. Good luck then ;)
[20:07] <WACOMalt> Thanks.   Can I post anything anywhere say‌ing this exists? (noting that it is an independant channel not operated or maintained by ubuntu irc panel)
[20:07] <nalioth> WACOMalt: got a blog?
[20:07] <WACOMalt> :P  ok, so that's a no.  I meant like, maybe a post in the ubuntu offtopic forums or something
[20:07] <WACOMalt> (I won't muck up your support forums)
[20:07] <nalioth> WACOMalt: /msg nickserv help set property
[20:08] <WACOMalt> huh?
[20:08] <WACOMalt> what does that do?
[20:08] <nalioth> WACOMalt: it asked nickserv to school you in the "property" setting
[20:08] <nalioth> WACOMalt: /ns info nalioth for an example
[20:08] <WACOMalt> oh
[20:09] <WACOMalt> unknown command
[20:09] <WACOMalt> there it is
[20:09] <WACOMalt> nickserv, gotcha
[20:10] <WACOMalt> cool
[20:10] <WACOMalt> can I do a single post in the #ubuntu channel saying I'm starting ##wubi?
[20:11] <WACOMalt> Man, I got really off topic here. I was trying to fix my computer :P
[20:52] <k1l> CosmiChaos, ping?
[20:52] <CosmiChaos> huhu
[20:52] <CosmiChaos> wie eghts?
[20:52] <k1l> query?
[20:52] <CosmiChaos> gern
[20:53] <CosmiChaos> dann geh ich mal wieder raus
[23:16] <LjL> i see.