[00:12] <mrand> hipitihop: interesting.  "It is a kernel bug unless I am missing some rule about sysfs timing."
[00:16] <hipitihop> mrand, that's my interpretation. I played around with a rules file in /etc/udev/rules.d and if I run "sudo udevadm test /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:04.0/usb3/3-4/3-4:1.0/input/input4" which happens to be my device, then it claims "sudo udevadm test /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:04.0/usb3/3-4/3-4:1.0/input/input4"
[00:16] <hipitihop> sorry, claims "udev_event_execute_rules: device event will be ignored"
[00:17] <mrand> kinda hard to use when it is being ignored ;-)
[00:17] <hipitihop> but when the machine reboots, then "sudo cat /proc/bus/usb/devices" still shows it using usbhid driver
[00:18] <hipitihop> aah, am I missreading the result of the test ?
[00:21] <hipitihop> mrand, I thought that was the point of the exercise to get udev to ignroe the device and not load usbhid as driver.
[00:23] <mrand> hipitihop: I assume that is the point as well.
[00:29] <unimaginative> I upgraded my mythbuntu install to 9.10, and now the 'lirc_mceusb2" module is misisng from the new kernel...
[00:51] <hipitihop> mrand, do you know if /etc/modprobe.d/usbhid mentioned in step 3 http://mythtvblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/getting-imon-0038-lcd-working-with-lirc.html is correct for ubuntu/karmic ? as all other files in /etc/mdprobe.d are *.conf
[01:37] <hipitihop>  When I do "/sys/bus/usb/drivers/usbhid$ sudo echo -n 3-4:1.0 >unbind" I get "-bash: unbind: Permission denied" anyone help ?
[02:05] <mrand> hipitihop: at least on 9.04, it looks like that was still a valid thing to do.  My wild guess would be 9.10 hasn't changed.  Unless it has :-)   http://www.ivankuznetsov.com/2009/10/upgrading-iphone-firmware-using-vmware-and-ubuntu-9-04.html
[02:07] <mrand> hipitihop: or maybe it has changed to /etc/modprobe.d/usbhid.conf (http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?p=402888)
[02:44] <darkfrog> hey guys, just upgraded to 9.10 and I need the 6200ch binary to change channels via firewire, but it's expecting libraw1394-8 and Karmic has libraw1394-11, is there a known solution or an updated version?
[02:46] <darkfrog> well, on the help.ubuntu.com wiki it says: "NOTE: The 6200.ch changer is included in the Ubuntu MythTV packages and is no longer needed for the Motorola 62xx STBs." but how do I configure Myth to change the channel then?
[02:49] <rhpot1991> darkfrog: I'm using that to change channels, whats the issue?
[02:49] <rhpot1991> IIRC I unpacked it and it just worked
[02:50] <darkfrog> rhpot1991: I downloaded it from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_External_Channel_Changer a long time ago and that's what it references in the "external channel changer" in mythtv-setup...how do I rely on what's built-into mythtv now?
[02:50] <darkfrog> rhpot1991: are you running Karmic?
[02:55] <mishehu> wonder how long it will be before my hvr-2250 is in vanilla kernel tree :-/
[02:57] <hipitihop> mrand, ok sudo sh -c 'echo -n 3-4:1.0 > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usbhid/unbind' and sudo sh -c 'echo -n 3-4:1.1 > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usbhid/unbind' has managed to et usbhid to let go
[03:01] <hipitihop> mrand: driver finally listed as (none) see http://paste.ubuntu.com/312942/ ... I guess now the next step is, how to get it to bind lirc_imon
[03:18] <rhpot1991> darkfrog: yep its in contrib, you should be using it from there
[03:19] <rhpot1991> /usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib/
[03:24]  * hipitihop wonders why so many amphibians here hipitihop, darkfrog, toad
[03:26] <mrand> hipitihop: Can you keeping track of this stuff so a wiki page or some documentation can be done up once it is all figured out?
[03:26] <hipitihop> mrand, doing my best, as I sure don't want some other poor bugger to go through thi
[03:27] <mrand> hehehe.
[03:29] <hipitihop> I have now removed both the fdi an dudev rules, rebooted and simply done sudo sh -c 'echo -n 3-4:1.0 > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usbhid/unbind' and sudo sh -c 'echo -n 3-4:1.1 > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usbhid/unbind' and still listed s no driver
[03:32] <hipitihop> do you know what the -n arg does on the above ?
[03:33] <mrand>        -n     do not output the trailing newline
[03:34] <mrand> (from man echo)
[03:34] <rhpot1991> anyone else seem to have random recordings that aren't flagging in .22?
[03:35] <hipitihop> so I'm contemplating reverse to lirc_imon e.g. sudo sh -c 'echo -n 3-4:1.1 > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/lirc_imon/bind'
[03:37]  * hipitihop runs off to see if irw responds now
[03:45] <hipitihop> mrand, that's it !!! I did sudo sh -c 'echo -n 3-4:1.0 > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/lirc_imon/bind' and sudo sh -c 'echo -n 3-4:1.1 > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/lirc_imon/bind' and now sudo cat /proc/bus/usb/devices lists both using lirc_imon as the drive... irw finally responds in terminal and responds to all buttons on the remote
[03:45] <mrand> awesome!
[03:45] <mrand> you got the 3-4:10 from doing ls /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usbhid ?
[03:46] <hipitihop> obviously that is a manual solution so won't survive beyond a reboot, but I will work toward actually getting the rest of lirc config correct for all the keys so I can finally use mythtv with it and worry about automating all this after that
[03:47] <hipitihop> mrand, I guess that is one way but there can be other divices depending on what is plugged in... holdon going through notes
[03:52] <hipitihop> ok "dmesg | grep 15c2" in my case shows input: HID 15c2:0043 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:04.0/usb3/3-4/3-4:1.0/input/input4"
[03:53] <Shred00> there doesn't seem to have been weeklybuilds updates since may.  is that expected?
[03:53] <Shred00> also, will there be a myth 0.22 release for hardy from mythbuntu?
[03:53] <mrand> hipitihop:  and so maybe you want to do the following?   udevinfo -a -p /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:04.0/usb3/3-4/3-4:1.0/input/input4
[03:54] <mrand> to find the modalias.... kinda like what I'd outlined here:http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Gyration-based_MCE_Remotes#udev_method
[03:54] <mrand> Shred00: sorry, no 0.22 for hardy.
[03:55] <Shred00> damn.  some people really do buy into the whole LTS thing and not want to run around upgrading whole oses every six months.  :-(  i understand your position too though.
[03:55] <Zinn> Shred00: Please watch your language.
[03:55] <mrand> 0.21 was updated not too long ago I think... may doesn't seem right.   Oh, you said weekly builds.  they may have transitioned to "auto-builds" instead.
[03:55] <Shred00> auto-builds?
[03:55] <Shred00> Zinn: language?
[03:56] <mrand> Shred00: yeah, I understand it kinds stinks, but actually the LTS thing is really for the software released around that time.  0.22 is coming 18 months later... almost in time for 10.04 LTS!
[03:56] <hipitihop> mrand, that doesn't work, but you are correct, you can then do "udevadm info -a -p /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:04.0/usb3/3-4/3-4:1.0/"
[03:56] <Shred00> is auto-builds something i should have transitioned to from weeklybuilds?
[03:57] <ipwnu> hello, I just installed 9.10 today and everything was working fine until i tried to tweak my display using the
[03:57] <ipwnu> hello, I just installed 9.10 today and everything was working fine until i tried to tweak my display using the
[03:57] <mrand> Shred00: yes.... check out http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds
[03:58] <tgm4883> well weekly builds and auto-builds are the same thing
[03:58] <Shred00> mrand: indeed, so google led me to
[03:58] <ipwnu> hello, I just installed 9.10 today and everything was working fine until i tried to tweak my display using the screen setup wizard / appearance
[03:58] <mrand> tgm4883: he said he hasn't gotten an update since May.  doesn't seem quite right.
[03:58] <ipwnu> gui width
[03:58] <tgm4883> hmm
[03:59] <ipwnu> now I can't get rid of the panel along the top of the screen...
[03:59] <tgm4883> mrand, check the repo line?
[03:59] <Shred00> hrm.  maybe it's just the uk mirror that's out of date.  unfortunately the main mirror is not browsable
[04:00] <tgm4883> Shred00, there are 4 mirrors now
[04:01] <tgm4883> I would download and install the new mythbuntu-repos package
[04:01] <hipitihop> mrand, are you trying to get me to go the next step and use http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Gyration-based_MCE_Remotes#udev_method for my modealias so that it is automated ?
[04:01] <Shred00> weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org has 0.21.0+fixes21768-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu1 which is the same as uk.weekly... which shows in a Packages file that has not been modified since May
[04:01] <tgm4883> also, it's worth noting that yes, LTS is Long Term Support, but that doesn't mean you get new releases backported to it
[04:02] <Shred00> yeah, i'm examining that package now
[04:02] <mrand> hipitihop: I'm no expert, but yes, I was wondering if that would be your next step (if that even works on 9.10)
[04:02] <mrand> 21768 is current
[04:02] <hipitihop> mrand, isn't taht assuming though that the udev rules approach works ?
[04:03] <hipitihop> mrand, I thought that kernel bug was causing some of those attributes to not be available at the time of processing the rules
[04:04] <mrand> hipitihop: yeah, sorry... guess I was jumping around too much.
[04:05] <hipitihop> mrand, np, I also basically have no idea what I'm doing in this area so just checking :-)
[04:05] <mrand> Like I said, I'm no expert on it either.  I was hoping to hack on my gyration remote today, but didn't get to it.
[04:06] <hipitihop> mrand, are you having a similar problem ?
[04:06] <mrand> I don't know, haven't tried it in a long time.  I'm guessing that I will.
[04:07] <Shred00> ahhh.  there we go.  us.autobuilds.mythbuntu.org looks much fresher
[04:07] <mrand> BTW, [21768] is current for 0.21 though.  It's only a few months old (Sept)
[04:11] <Shred00> are final 0.22 packages (i.e. Nov. 6 release) available or just the 21-oct-2009 packages in http://us.autobuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu/trunk-0.22/?
[04:12] <JT|work> hey guys, is there a way to keep a certain directory tree cached in memory?
[04:13] <carpenike> hi all, trying to get a user job to convert recordings to iPhone format per this guide: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Streaming_to_iPod_touch_or_iPhone
[04:13] <JT|work> the large files that mythtv records trashes my filesystem cache
[04:13] <mrand> Shred00: We're tracking 0.22-fixes branch nightly if you use auto-builds.
[04:13] <carpenike> Using the latest RC candidate for 9.10
[04:13] <carpenike> But the job doesn't appear to start ffmpeg
[04:13] <carpenike> I can run it by hand manually.
[04:13] <carpenike> But when running it from the UI the ffmpeg process doesn't appear to ever start.
[04:14] <mrand> carpenike: I don't know how much experience people here have with transcoding... searching the mythtv-users mailing list archive or asking on #mythtv-users may get more responses.
[04:14] <carpenike> ok thx.
[04:14] <Shred00> carpenike: yeah, that's probably better than the actual GA release anyway.
[04:15] <carpenike> Shred00: serious?
[04:16] <Shred00> carpenike: 0.22-fixes better than 0.22.0 release?  sure.  why wouldn't it be?
[04:18] <carpenike> Hmm.. You know, not sure which one I installed now. might actually be the GA. Is there an easy way to check?
[04:19] <Shred00> is 0.22-fixes being tracked in http://us.autobuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu/trunk-0.22/ or somewhere else?
[04:20] <mrand> Shred00: sorry, yes... that is what is tracking it.
[04:20] <mrand> ignore the trunk in the path.
[04:20] <Shred00> hrm.  the Packages file in there for Karmic says 22-Oct-2009
[04:20] <Shred00> 0.22.0~trunk22228-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu3
[04:21] <mrand> carpenike:  what does apt-cache policy mythtv-frontend give you?
[04:22] <mrand> Shred00: That date sounds like the 9.10 .iso release.
[04:22] <carpenike> mrand: Installed: 0.22.0~zrc1-0ubuntu1
[04:22] <Shred00> mrand: indeed
[04:23] <mrand> Shred00: https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/trunk-0.22  shows 22766
[04:24] <Shred00> so maybe that autobuilds location is not tracking the 0.22 fixes branch.  i will take a look at the ppa
[04:25] <Shred00> myth's svn/track shows 22772, 44 minutes ago, so pretty close
[04:25] <mrand> carpenike: that is indeed an rc.  I would expect an update would get you newer one.  I would personally suggest enabling the auto-builds ppa to keep up with the latest bug fixes: http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds
[04:25] <mrand> Shred00: yes, the ppa got built an hour ago or so.
[04:26] <Shred00> well, i guess i'm doing a hardy->karmic upgrade tomorrow.  but certainly not before i do some lvm snapshots.  :-)
[04:27] <mrand> Shred00: I believe Ubuntu upgrades require you to go through the intermediate steps (8.10 and 9.04)
[04:28] <Shred00> anyone gotten any impressions on whether 0.22 is any heavier on video playback?  my BE/FE is just fast enough to playback currently.  don't want to have to beef it up if i don't need to.  using nvidia 5200 in it.
[04:29] <Shred00> mrand: naw.  i do apt-get dist-upgrade upgrades anyway, and every interim release is supposed to be able to update the previous LTS as the interim releases are making their way to the next LTS.  i saw specific commits in Karmic regarding smother hardy upgrades.
[04:30] <Shred00> in any case, i am an able hacker so i can fix any breakage that might ensue.
[04:30] <Shred00> and with the safety of a snapshot prior to upgrade, the whole thing can go to hell in a handbasket and i simply have to reboot on the snapshot i took and i am back to square one.
[04:30] <Zinn> Shred00: Please watch your language.
[04:30] <mrand> Shred00: interesting (re: upgrades).   Cool -that's good to hear.   Some of the new themes are kinda heavy, I think I heard the fallback is not
[04:31] <mrand> Shred00: yeah, that's the way to do it if you can!
[04:31] <Shred00> Zinn: what language are you objecting to exactly?
[04:31] <mrand> Zinn is a bot.  I think he triggers on any four letter word.
[04:32] <Shred00> oh jeez.
[04:32] <Shred00> h - e - double-hockey-sticks is a 4 letter word?
[04:33] <mrand> *shrug*  I didn't program him :-)
[04:33] <mrand> I gotta run.  have fun everyone.
[04:33] <Shred00> me too.  bed awaits.
[05:03] <CyberKnet> Do I need to upgrade to 9.10 to get 0.22? (I'm currently on 9.04)
[05:04] <hads> The official upgrade is either through every release or LTS to LTS, so 8.04 -> 10.04, or 8.04 -> 8.10 -> 9.04 -> 9.10
[05:04] <hads> CyberKnet: I believe there is a PPA for 0.22 on 9.04
[05:04] <CyberKnet> Sorry, I'm not familiar with the term PPA, would you be able to explain it to me please?
[05:06] <hads> Sure, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[05:06] <CyberKnet> thanks hads
[05:07] <hads> Try this I think; https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/trunk-0.22
[05:07] <CyberKnet> I'll check it out
[05:07] <CyberKnet> aah, a personal package archive.
[05:08] <hads> Yeah, they aren't really personal as such though :) SOme of them are by official teams such as the mythbuntu guys
[05:08] <CyberKnet> Oh bother. There's already a FAQ entry on Mythbuntu.org about how to do this.
[05:08] <CyberKnet> drat. Sorry :|
[05:10] <hads> heh no worries, I haven't read it :)
[05:13] <CyberKnet> I should have.
[05:13]  * CyberKnet is really looking forward to Terra
[05:17] <CyberKnet> hmmm... many mythtv packages are being held back by apt-get
[05:17] <CyberKnet> aptitude time
[05:23] <superm1> CyberKnet, you dont need to use aptitude
[05:23] <superm1> just apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:23] <superm1> i'm not a fan of aptitude because it makes bad decisions sometiems
[05:23] <superm1> and if someone isn't paying attention they might miss it's bad decisions as they are made
[05:25] <hads> Yeah, it's useful sometimes if you pay attention.
[05:40] <kschreyack> Hi Guys, I have a Hauppauge WinTV Radio pci card and I can't see the IR hardware via lspci -v.  I'm not too sure how to troubleshoot this.  Any advice?
[05:57] <CyberKnet> superm1: Yeah, I actually just noticed that. Luckily update manager was able to fix things
[05:58] <CyberKnet> but ... now mythfrontend won't start
[05:58] <CyberKnet> it says Metallurgy is missing mainwindow.xml and is broken, tries to fall back to Terra, and sais it can't load mainmenu from menu-ui.xml
[05:58] <CyberKnet> then mythfrontend exits
[05:59]  * CyberKnet bites the bullet and does a 9.04 -> 9.10
[06:00] <CyberKnet> already hosed my database up once today and had to restore from the backup that mythbackend wisely made.
[06:03] <kschreyack> bummer CyberKnet
[06:04] <CyberKnet> kschreyack: At least there was a backup - I was grateful for that.
[06:04] <CyberKnet> kschreyack: Though why mythfrontend won't start ... *shrug*
[06:04] <CyberKnet> kschreyack: I can only hope that the 9.04 -> 9.10 upgrade does some magic there.
[06:04] <kschreyack> hmm, my issue exists under 9.10
[06:05] <CyberKnet> kschreyack: Sorry, I have no idea :|
[06:05] <kschreyack> however we have some different issues going on.  I've got nothing going on with the DB or watch tv
[06:06] <kschreyack> so you have a WinTV card?
[06:06] <CyberKnet> No, I have two other Hauppauge cards though
[06:06] <CyberKnet> PVR-500 and HVR-2250
[06:07] <kschreyack> how do you like the HD card?
[06:07] <CyberKnet>  Very much. I get out of it exactly what I expected.
[06:08] <kschreyack> excellent, good to hear
[06:08] <CyberKnet> I use it via QAM from Cox Cable
[06:08] <CyberKnet> very happy with the video quality.
[06:08] <CyberKnet> but then again ... I'm not exactly a videophile :)
[06:08] <kschreyack> you doing 720 or 1080?
[06:09] <kschreyack> I've got 720 on a 37" LG
[06:14] <CyberKnet> 1080i
[06:14] <CyberKnet> on a hitachi 50" plasma
[06:19] <kschreyack> very nice ;)
[06:39] <SteveG> I filed a bug against mythweb on 0.22 with a clean load of 9.10.  Can anone else who has a clean build (and did not restore the favorites table - not in the new schema) confirm this for me.  http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7479
[07:20] <CyberKnet> Yep. Update to 9.10 fixed it
[07:20] <CyberKnet> weird.
[07:31] <Scooby> Hi, I'm having some serious problems booting into the live CD. I select English Language and boot it from the menu then it loads a buch of stuff and the screen will start blinking and it dumps me at the command prompt (ubuntu@ubuntu:#) with it still flashing. What's the problem?
[07:39] <macdingo> Anyone out there who has mastered lirc-alsa for IR remote?
[10:04] <hipitihop> amazing grib by usbhid... even adding usbhid.quirks=0x15c2:0x0043:0x4 to kernel parameters in /boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't stop it.
[10:16] <hipitihop> now that I have lirc_imon driver being used correctly and I have confirmed via IRW that all keys on my remote generate a code, what else do I need to do to get lirc correctly  configured and integrated with mythfronend ?
[10:27] <sebrock> I'm having real trouble setting up jamu in 9.10, it keeps complaining about missing folders although it is set
[11:25] <TFyre> aloa :) im running mythbunto 9.10/karmic and have a porblem with my audio
[11:25] <TFyre> analogue audo 5.1 (3 stereo jacks)
[11:25] <TFyre> VLC plays 100% fine
[11:25] <TFyre> the myth internal player doesnt want to play the sound...
[11:25] <TFyre> the video part is 100% fine
[11:25] <TFyre> any ideas?
[11:25] <TFyre> audio output: ALSA:default
[11:25] <TFyre> channels: 5.1
[11:25] <TFyre> speaker-test also works fine on all channels
[15:16] <bobbies> I just did a fresh install of mythbuntu 9.10 and it cann't read my videos Directory which is located on a second drive. I've set the permissions as my Pictures dir is on the same drive and it works fine (the permissions are the same). I think I've gotten everything setup correctly in myth setup, unless there is a new spto to set that wasn't in mythbuntu 8.0.4
[15:22] <darkfrog> I've got the HD-PVR and now that I've upgraded to .22 and 9.10 I'd like to set it up...is there anything I need to install or should it just work?  I currently have the PVR-250 working
[15:32] <Shred00> ~sigh~  "DB charset pre-conversion test failed. Your database seems to be partially corrupted."
[15:32] <Shred00> but my /etc/mysql/my.cnf doesn't seem to contain anything at all about character sets per http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Fixing_Corrupt_Database_Encoding
[15:33] <Shred00> given that I still have a copy of the old database intact what's the easiest way through this quagmire?
[15:57] <mrand> Shred00: I think there is a thread that might help... hold on.
[16:00] <mrand> Shred00: check out http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/406111  and http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/406477
[16:02] <Shred00> is every mythbuntu user running into this problem?
[16:02] <Shred00> what a mess
[16:02] <mrand> nope.
[16:03] <mrand> Actually haven't heard of any.
[16:03] <Shred00> prior to that error i got:
[16:03] <Shred00> 2009-11-08 10:13:58.177 DB Error (Index creation failed.):
[16:03] <Shred00> Query was:
[16:03] <Shred00> Driver error was [1/-1]:
[16:03] <Shred00> Driver not loaded
[16:03] <Shred00> Database error was:
[16:03] <Shred00> Driver not loaded
[16:03] <Shred00> i wonder if this is a mis-reporting of a different error or something
[16:06] <mrand> I think that second link may cover the "driver not loaded" thing
[16:09] <Shred00> i *hate* screwing around with mysql
[16:09] <mrand> yeah, it shouldn't be necessary in all but the most rare cases.
[16:10] <Shred00> totally
[16:10] <mrand> And in case of bugs, or bugs in the past.
[16:10] <Shred00> even bugs in the past, if known, should be dealt with in upgrades
[16:12] <mrand> That I've seen, the devs try very hard to deal with stuff properly (seemless upgrades).  But from the above threads, it seems that there are a few bugs they aren't yet comfortable dealing with in an automated fashion.
[16:24] <Shred00> i don't seem to have the latin1/utf8 mix-match that http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Fixing_Corrupt_Database_Encoding describes as bad
[16:24] <Shred00> i in fact only have:
[16:24] <Shred00> Client characterset:    latin1
[16:24] <Shred00> Server characterset:    latin1
[16:25] <Shred00> i don't have the other two characterset settings
[16:40] <Shred00> why does the backend need OpenGL?
[16:41] <Shred00> why is it linked with *any* GUI libraries at all?
[17:12] <RobfrHalifax> Hi all.  I've installed the latest version of Mythbuntu and it's almost functional.  I'm currently on the Database Configuration screen (page 1 of 2) and it tells me that "Myth could not connect to the database"  Can anyone provide information on how to fix the issue?
[17:13] <RobfrHalifax> (hostname is localhost, user is mythtbv, password is random 8 digit string)
[17:26] <RobHalifax> Sorry - client crashed
[17:29] <RobHalifax> Question regarded the initial database configuration screen under the latest version of mythbuntu.  Wondering how to work around the "myth could not connect to the database" message that appears.
[17:35] <Josh__> Is there a way to switch back from mythbuntu to ubuntu-desktop?
[17:37] <superm1> yes
[17:38] <superm1> just turn off auto login and pick change seession at the login screen
[17:38] <Josh__> And remove all the myth* packages from the system?
[17:39] <superm1> if you dont want myth sure
[17:39] <superm1> i thought you just wanted to change the desktop
[17:48] <Josh__> superm1, I'm running mythtv trunk on a mythbuntu system. When I upgraded mythbuntu it reinstalled all the binaries from 0.22-fixes
[17:49] <superm1> Josh__, just re-enable the trunk ppa
[17:49] <superm1> using mythbuntu-repos
[17:49] <superm1> and it will load the trunk packages
[19:22] <LR78> are there configuration files/settings for mythvideo/mythgallery/mythmusic ?  I'm trying to configure my diskless frontend image as much as I can such that I don't have to edit too many settings on each frontend.
[19:22] <sebrock> I'm having real trouble setting up jamu in 9.10, it keeps complaining about missing folders although it is set
[19:22] <LR78> specifically a way to set the directories
[19:28] <tgm4883> LR78, iirc, that would all be database stuff
[19:29] <`ph8> hi all, we're just trying to setup our first myth box ever (msi media live) - we've got the latest (9.10) install disk but when we click the 'install myth' icon from the disk (we're using it in a live environment right now) nothing happens, we see a crash report but we can't view it's contents - sound familiar?
[19:29] <`ph8>  (so this is when ubiquity's starting)?
[19:35] <govatent> how can i change mythweb to port 8484 from 80? using ubuntu and mythweb is already running fine on 80
[19:48] <RobfrHalifax> What's the default user/pass for the mythconverg database?
[19:49] <mrand> RobfrHalifax: see /etc/mythtv/config.xml
[19:53] <Seeker`> is it possible to disable pulseaudio?
[19:53] <`ph8> sorry guys - got d/ced! So we're trying to setup myth on our new msi media live - got the 9.10 mythbuntu cd - no matter which install option we choose we always seem to end up in what i'd term to be a 'live' environment
[19:54] <`ph8> and then when we try to 'install mythbuntu' - nothing happens - i've tried running it from the command line
[19:54] <`ph8> (with no errors)
[19:54] <`ph8> does this sound like a common problem? I thought the media live was like the best device ever
[19:55] <`ph8> do you think maybe i should ditch 64 bit?
[19:55] <`ph8> could that be it?
[19:55] <mrand> `ph8: certain not a common problem.  Never heard of it, actually.  Did you check the disk (at the first menu when you boot)?   When you boot to the live environment, is there an icon for "install mythbuntu"?  Certainly give non 64-bit a try, but that shouldn't be it.
[19:55] <`ph8> or if anyone knows where ubiquity stores its logs that might be nice
[19:55] <`ph8> ok
[19:56] <`ph8> yep there's an icon, that's what's not working
[19:56] <mrand> `ph8: that's beyond strange.
[19:56] <mrand> Seeker`: yes, there are ways.  I've never done it, so I hesitate to recommend it.
[19:56] <mrand> Cause I don't know the exact steps
[19:57] <mrand> !pulse
[19:57] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about pulse
[19:57] <mrand> !pluseaudio
[19:57] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about pluseaudio
[19:57] <mrand> ugg
[19:57] <mrand> !pulse%
[19:57] <Zinn> Pulse Audio, aka kitten killer.  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio for more information.  Pulse Audio seems to cause problems with MythTV.  If you are having trouble, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/460579 for potential work arounds
[19:59] <Seeker`> my sound has stopped working since an upgrade to 9.10
[19:59] <Seeker`> I am using HDMI out
[19:59] <`ph8> thanks mrand, will try 32 bit and get back - will also check cd for defects as haven't done that
[20:00] <mrand> `ph8: you're welcome.
[20:00] <mrand> Seeker`: sorry, don't know anything about HDMI out, but I can imagine it is different even still
[20:11] <LR78> tgm4883, you remembered correctly, all in the settings table, thanks
[20:15] <RobfrHalifax> mrand - I cat'ed the config.xml file as per your suggestion and carefully noted the password and username.  I inserted those into the database config screen of the mythsetup and they were rejected.  Any other suggestions?
[20:16] <tgm4883> RobfrHalifax, separate frontend/backend?
[20:17] <RobfrHalifax> I've asked that they both run on the same machine (as I had with my previous install on my fc6 box)
[20:18] <RobfrHalifax> (which worked like a charm until the hd blew up yesterday :'-(
[20:29] <mrand> RobfrHalifax: the values in that file should match /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt, and the contents of the stuff in ~/.mythtv - but if you're having trouble, see if any of those disagree.
[20:30] <RobfrHalifax> I'll check
[20:30] <mrand> If you find one that is different, try it.  that's my only idea.
[20:34] <RobfrHalifax> I did the install from scratch, so I'm not sure what's going on.  Could it be a permissions problem?
[20:35] <RobfrHalifax> (The password entries are all the same)
[20:36] <mrand> I thought that the setup stuff typically handled all that.  As I recall, you don't have to enter anything.  Only time I recall seeing it ask is when the backend or sql database are messed up.
[20:38] <BlueCamel> Hello. Any plans for nvidia-1.90 in the mythbuntu repos soonish?
[20:38] <tgm4883> superm1, ^
[20:39] <superm1> that's a difficult problem
[20:39] <superm1> because we dont have the open source library libvdpau in place
[20:39] <BlueCamel> I used the nvidia 1.90 driver from jya's repos prior to doing a mythbuntu 9.10 install and found it to be quite stable over the 1.85
[20:39] <tgm4883> could we put both on -testing?
[20:40] <RobfrHalifax> Is installing mythtv manually on the latest ubuntu disrto difficult to do?
[20:40] <tgm4883> !exist%
[20:40] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about exist%
[20:40] <superm1> tgm4883, needs some testing
[20:41] <superm1> and it needs to actually live in the PPA itself unfortunately
[20:41] <tgm4883> sad times
[20:42] <tgm4883> !existing - RobfrHalifax
[20:42] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about existing - RobfrHalifax
[20:42] <tgm4883> !existing | RobfrHalifax
[20:42] <Zinn> RobfrHalifax: http://www.mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu
[20:42] <superm1> tgm4883, i'll try to do an experiment with it on my personal ppa and see how things turn out
[20:47] <RobfrHalifax> @zinn - cool - I'll try that
[20:47] <RobfrHalifax> Dinner (and thanks for the advice guys)
[21:06] <Shred00> anyone recall the mythtv irc channel off-hand?
[21:07] <tgm4883> Shred00, mythtv-users
[21:07] <tgm4883> Shred00, #mythtv-users
[21:34] <`ph8> hi all
[21:34] <Shred00> where is mythconverg_restore.pl?
[21:34] <`ph8> just finished installing our msi media live box
[21:34] <`ph8> but we've setup the remote wrong!
[21:35] <`ph8> anyone with an msi media live know what the remote type should be?
[21:35] <`ph8> I setup the only msi one in the list, which appears to be incorrect?
[21:37] <hads> Shred00: It's in the 'mythtv' package.
[21:37] <hads> Which may not be installed on some systems.
[21:37] <hads> It's kind of a bug I guess.
[21:39] <Shred00> indeed, not installed here.  and wow, installing it brings in quite a few dependencies
[21:45] <`ph8> anyone know what the type of control is that comes with the media live? I thought it was pretty popular
[21:45] <superm1> hads, yeah that's fixed in the latest -fixes packages, but not in the package that made it in 9.10
[21:56] <`ph8> anyone? please? any idea what the control that comes with the msi media live is?
[22:02] <hads> superm1: Cool
[22:05] <`ph8> for future reference it's a windows media remote (hence the large windows button i guess)
[22:05] <`ph8> don't suppose anyone knows how to get the lcd working on the same?
[22:07] <Seeker`> upgraded to 9.10
[22:07] <Seeker`> autologin doesn't work any more
[22:07] <Seeker`> try to log in to "mythtv session", screen goes white then dumps me back at login again
[22:09] <Seeker`> any ideas?
[22:13] <Seeker`> help?
[22:25] <Shred00> mythconverg_restore.pl is in the mythtv package
[22:36] <Shred00> ahhh. seems it's in /usr/share/mythtv and in the mythtv-database package
[22:36] <Shred00> which seems a reasonable package to put it in
[22:37] <hads> Humm, depends what repository you're using I gess.
[22:37] <hads> guess
[22:38] <Shred00> i'm using the ppa
[22:39] <hads> Yeah, as superm1 said above he fixed it.
[23:23] <hipitihop> can someone link me to this channels archive... I posted a link to a kernel bug related to udev rules not firing and now lost the link
[23:28] <hipitihop> never mind found it @ http://irclogs.ubuntu.com
[23:34] <Seeker`> anyone having problems with nova-t 500 remotes not working properly after an upgrade to 9.10
[23:40] <pepinito> Hi! I m having a strange problem. Chanel Up and Channel Down works ok, but when change channel by number mythtv fails. Any ideas?
[23:41] <pepinito> Btw, this is my log error:
[23:41] <pepinito> 2009-11-08 20:36:28.889 MythSocket(251e7a0:38): readStringList: Error, timed out after 7000 ms.
[23:41] <pepinito> 2009-11-08 20:36:28.889 RemoteEncoder::SendReceiveStringList(): No response.
[23:41] <pepinito> 2009-11-08 20:36:28.896 LiveTVChain(live-merlin-2009-11-08T20:36:14): SwitchTo() not switching to current
[23:41] <pepinito> 2009-11-08 20:36:28.917 TV: Attempting to change from Watching WatchingLiveTV to None
[23:42] <pepinito> And I m running backend and frontend in the same machine.