[00:56] <Ahmuck> i noticed that Windows 7 has a parental control and time program in it.  What options are out there for edubuntu and/or ltsp ?
[01:13] <mhall119> Ahmuck: there's a few of them out there, none that are really great
[01:13] <mhall119> even Linus himself wrote one
[01:13] <mhall119> but it mostly just killed off internet access after an alotted time
[01:15] <mhall119> there's others than add PAM hooks to prevent login, and another that will kill an X session after so many minutes
[01:41] <mhall119> Ahmuck: I'm going to be making new packages soon, I'm figuring out how to make a Qimo session, like a Gnome or XFCE session, so you can get to it from any user account
[01:47] <sbalneav> evening all
[01:49] <mhall119> evening sbalneav
[14:54] <sbalneav> Morning all
[14:55] <jsgotangco> hi
[16:21] <sbalneav> Hmmm, we should probably have a "lucid kickoff meeting" sometime soon
[16:21] <sbalneav> Anybody see my post in edubuntu-{users|devel}?
[16:22] <sbalneav> Here's what I think would make the most sense:
[16:23] <sbalneav> With the exception of LTSP, almost everything "edubuntu-ish" should be "demoted" to universe.  That way, the only real requirement to have an impact on Edubuntu would be having MOTU
[16:33] <sbalneav> Then, with the edubuntu-dev ppa's, we can lower the barrier to entry even FURTHER.
[16:44] <jbicha> I agree that universe makes sense for a good amount of what Edubuntu is working on
[16:45] <jbicha> I have two online college classes starting today (Java and XML) so I'll be a bit stretched for the next 2 months :-(
[16:48] <ogra> there wont be no universe anymore soon
[16:57] <jbicha> ogra: what do you mean?
[16:58] <ogra> the concept of main/universe will go away soon
[16:58] <stgraber> archive reorganization
[16:58] <stgraber> basically everything will be merged into a single component (or two with restricted ?) and upload rights will be handled by individual or team ACL
[16:58] <ogra> switched over to team based maintenence ... so if you are in edubuntu-dev you are an edubuntu developer ... there wont be a distinction for main/universe any more
[16:59] <jbicha> so more similar to how Debian works?
[16:59] <ogra> well, there will be still a supported set for apps canonical offers support for ... but it wont be reflected in the archive components anymore
[17:02] <sbalneav> Oh, excellent.
[17:02] <sbalneav> So, that will lower the barrier to entry even further.
[17:03] <sbalneav> So, then that leads me to ask the question: since I'm already "edubuntu-dev" should I BOTHER to jump through the hoops to become motu, or just wait for the reorg?
[17:03] <ogra> you still need to gain upload privileges (e.g. MOTU today ... )
[17:03] <sbalneav> Ah, ok
[17:04] <sbalneav> so being in edubuntu-dev doesn't grant upload privs automatically
[17:04] <sbalneav> ok, I'll stay on my motu path then
[17:05] <sbalneav> ogra: I merged tuxpaint on the weekend.
[17:05] <ogra> oh
[17:05] <ogra> can you push it somewhere ? i think i got it on my merge list on MoM
[17:06] <ogra> so i'll happily sponsor
[17:07] <ogra> GGRRRRRR
[17:07]  * ogra starts getting annoyed by the ton of pointless ltsp bugs today
[17:30] <lilyshu> hi, is there any video/documents that i can use to promoting edubuntu in my campus?
[17:45] <sbalneav> Asmo might have some on his site
[17:45] <sbalneav> check the edubuntu-users mailing list
[17:45] <sbalneav> ogra: Don't worry about the doco-bug, I'll take that on and add it to the upstream manual.
[17:46] <ogra> sbalneav, it *is* covered ... he doesnt look
[17:46] <ogra> *all* of the bugs he filed today are covered somewhere
[17:47] <ogra> the cdrom bug could be turned into "add a ckech for the right media and spit out descriptive error" though
[17:48] <sbalneav> I know the doc bug IS covered, but the docs are scattered.
[17:48] <sbalneav> So if we merge them all into the master doc plan, that'll be easier.
[17:48] <ogra> you cant
[17:49] <ogra> you cant add the options to the manpage ... thats why the manpage of ltsp-build-client says we cant :P
[17:49] <ogra> and points you to the --help command
[17:49] <sbalneav> Why not?  JUst have a section in the LTSPManual about the plugins?
[17:50] <sbalneav> Off for lunch, bbian
[17:50] <ogra> sbalneav, the prob is that they vary, you would need distro specific manpages
[17:57] <ogra> sbalneav, we added "Not all options are available on all installations. For a complete list of available options, use the --help and --extra-help options." to the manpage for that reason ...
[17:58] <ogra> sbalneav, i agree that the general plugin howto from /usr/share/doc should be in upstream though ... i adjusted the bug towards that
[18:08]  * ogra calls it a day
[18:18] <highvoltage> ogra: are you back in .de?