[00:00] <v1ttu_> a gui for the firewall perhaps?
[00:00] <nomopofomo> nope
[00:01] <nomopofomo> be right  back
[00:01] <nomopofomo> rebooting router
[00:01] <rfoney> as will I
[00:02] <nomopofomo> back
[00:02] <nomopofomo> miss anything?
[00:02] <v1ttu_> you rebooted the router in under 15 seconds?
[00:06] <nomopofomo> not bad right?
[00:15] <v1ttu_> i guess not
[00:17] <GS-27USB-50> Please, help this newbie! Have a look at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m55d13059
[00:30] <bugman> try to login to 9.10, then it goes back to login screen
[00:30] <bugman> kdm broken?
[00:31] <v1ttu_> edgers PPA added?
[00:32] <bugman> ??
[00:33] <v1ttu_> do you have an ati or intel graphics card/chip?
[00:33] <giz> Check the log files /var/log/Xorg.0.log /varlog/messages
[00:33] <giz> ~/.xsession-errors and the output of dmesg for any clues
[00:34] <giz> also try the failsafe option to log in
[00:34] <bugman> tried that, not a very good selection to fix broken xorg
[00:35] <v1ttu_> do you have ati or intel?
[00:35] <bugman> I don't know, on the mobo, dmesg should tell me
[00:37] <giz> check your Xauthority
[00:43] <bugman> VIA, Xauthority is a zero file, running box on KVM
[00:45] <Bookman> How do I turn on Compiz effects?
[00:46] <bugman> I tried deleting .kde directory, restart box, same problem
[00:48] <bugman> I don't have any problems w/9.04 on another partition
[00:48] <K350> from where do I change the taskbar position in kubuntu 9.10 ?
[00:49] <russlar> :(){ :|:& };:
[00:49] <bugman> so.. no idea's how to fix the login problem?
[00:49] <v1ttu_> :(){ :|:& };:?
[00:50] <russlar> ^ don't do that
[00:50] <v1ttu_> ?
[00:52] <maco> oy! you two!
[00:53] <maco> type a fork bomb in here again, and you'll be kicked
[00:53] <v1ttu_> ?
[00:54] <Ev0luti0n_> lol
[00:54] <maco> v1ttu_: that command will crash a system
[00:54] <Ev0luti0n_> fork bomb?
[00:54] <Ev0luti0n_> xD
[00:54] <Ev0luti0n_> had no clue
[00:54] <Ev0luti0n_> FOOOOOOOLKS
[00:54] <FloodBotK3> Ev0luti0n_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:54] <ubuntu_122_> hello
[00:54] <Ev0luti0n_> EVERYBODY LETS TRY TO DROP FORK BOMBS :x
[00:55] <v1ttu_> i don't use food utensils to touch explosive devices
[00:55] <quique_> oiga
[00:55] <Ev0luti0n_> lulz
[00:57] <bugman> well, 9.10 is no good to me, can't login, how is this better??? Don't trust the bastards to overrrwrite a working system!!!!
[00:57] <v1ttu_> the bastards?
[00:58] <maco> bugman: language...
[00:58]  * maco skanks to the song "dont let the ______ grind you down" now playing her head
[00:58] <bugman> your'e right, frame of mind
[00:59] <bugman> NEVER, NEVER choose upgrade - * WARNING*
[00:59] <v1ttu_> obviously
[00:59] <maco> it works for most people
[00:59] <maco> if you hit a bug, please file it
[00:59] <v1ttu_> no it doesn't
[00:59] <russlar> for the love of fsm, backups!!!
[01:00] <Ev0luti0n_> bugman: 9.10 rocks all the way
[01:00] <bugman> backups? naw, I just install to a spare partition, I didn't loose anything
[01:00] <Ev0luti0n_> i haven't had a single problem with the upgrade
[01:00] <Ev0luti0n_> i even donated!
[01:00] <v1ttu_> sperm?
[01:00] <trampel> bugman: 9.10 rocks some of the way for some of us
[01:00] <Ev0luti0n_> i might consider that also
[01:00] <Ev0luti0n_> :>
[01:01] <v1ttu_> lol
[01:01] <maco> v1ttu_: what?
[01:01] <maco> oh wait
[01:01] <maco> i get it
[01:01] <Ev0luti0n_> can't keep on waisting my loads
[01:01] <v1ttu_> a little slow
[01:01] <maco> oh gosh
[01:01] <Ev0luti0n_> xD
[01:01] <maco> gross dudes
[01:01] <v1ttu_> loads?
[01:01] <Ev0luti0n_> gross?
[01:01] <v1ttu_> 6 chamber?
[01:01] <rfoney> is tor a good network?\
[01:01] <v1ttu_> no
[01:01] <v1ttu_> unless you like going back to dial up speed
[01:01] <Ev0luti0n_> yeah... sometimes it's gross yeah.. another times more thin
[01:01] <Ev0luti0n_> xD
[01:02] <v1ttu_> are we talking about your penis?
[01:02] <v1ttu_> LOL
[01:02] <bugman> When is 9.10 going to be fixed?
[01:02] <Ev0luti0n_> :|
[01:02] <maco> bugman: cant be fixed til you file a bug...
[01:02] <Ev0luti0n_> how can this not be apropriate?
[01:02] <v1ttu_> bugman
[01:02] <v1ttu_> what graphics do you have?
[01:02] <Ev0luti0n_> we are just talking about sperm
[01:02] <Ev0luti0n_> -.-
[01:03] <maco> Ev0luti0n_: which is totally inappropriate and unrelated to tech support
[01:03] <Ev0luti0n_> :|
[01:03] <bugman> I filed a bug on LDAP & autofs, neverr got fixed
[01:03] <Ev0luti0n_> kay kay
[01:03] <Ev0luti0n_> i'll stfu then
[01:03] <v1ttu_> unless he works in a sperm bank with computer problems?
[01:03] <bugman> still broke on 9.04
[01:03] <Ev0luti0n_> LMAO
[01:03] <Ev0luti0n_> true!
[01:03] <Ev0luti0n_> hell... i just wanted to donate my load... jeesh
[01:04] <Ev0luti0n_> guess i can't
[01:04] <Ev0luti0n_> as i was saying
[01:04] <bugman> v1ttu: VIA
[01:04] <Ev0luti0n_> 9.10 brought no problems to me
[01:04]  * russlar is laughing
[01:04] <v1ttu_> isn't VIA covered by S3?
[01:04] <maco> v1ttu_: in which case what the place does is STILL unrelated to computer issues
[01:05] <bugman> what does that have to do with kdm?
[01:05] <v1ttu_> unles they have spilt semen samples into the pc and they need help repairing?
[01:05] <russlar> v1ttu_: submit that exchange to bash
[01:05] <Ev0luti0n_> hahah
[01:05] <Ev0luti0n_> yeah...
[01:05] <maco> OMG
[01:05] <maco> STOP
[01:05] <maco> NOW
[01:05] <v1ttu_> lol
[01:05] <Ev0luti0n_> we can be featured on bash
[01:05] <Ev0luti0n_> that would be awesome! more linux publicity!
[01:06] <Bookman> How do I turn on Compiz effects?
[01:06] <nalioth> Ev0luti0n_: have you seen our channel policies?
[01:06] <maco> Bookman: do you have compiz installed?
[01:06] <Ev0luti0n_> Bookman: try talking dirty to the computer
[01:06] <Bookman> maco, it is not installed by default in Kubuntu?
[01:06] <Ev0luti0n_> that way you might TURN ON
[01:06] <Ev0luti0n_> the effects
[01:06] <v1ttu_> lmao
[01:06] <maco> Bookman: no. kubuntu uses kwin by default, which has many similar effects
[01:06] <v1ttu_> bugman
[01:07] <v1ttu_> it may be an issue with the graphics driver
[01:07] <nalioth> v1ttu_: perhaps you might have a look at our channel policies, too
[01:07] <nalioth> ubottu: tell v1ttu_ about guidelines
[01:07] <Bookman> maco, and where are those settings then.  I'd like to learn about those.
[01:07] <v1ttu_> i have had a similar issue using the opso radeon driver with kubuntu
[01:07] <blu4lyf> I need some help with my kubuntu install.  I upgraded today and once the upgrade completed and it rebooted, I have since lost my desktop.  I log in, I see a brief flash of a desktop, then it is gone and replaced with a black screen.  I then see an error message that indicates hplip failed because it couldn't find a system tray.  is there a file or something that can edit or remove say in .kde/share/config that might fix this?
[01:07] <bugman> ok, where do I look? system up and running
[01:08] <v1ttu_> hmmm?
[01:08] <v1ttu_> your system is past kdm?
[01:08] <maco> Bookman: go into the kickoff menu, go to systemsettings, and in "desktop"
[01:08] <bugman> no
[01:08] <trxz> where i can get fonts ?
[01:08] <v1ttu_> nalioth please stop spamming me
[01:09] <Bookman> maco, ah, got you!  Let me explore what is there now.
[01:09] <nalioth> w/ 8
[01:09] <Bookman> maco, thanks.
[01:09] <v1ttu_> w/e*
[01:09] <v1ttu_> bugman
[01:10] <bugman> here
[01:10] <v1ttu_> PM
[01:12] <rfoney> did you ever hear form the smiths?
[01:14] <Bookman> maco, wow, nice effects!
[01:16] <trxz> there is any themes to PIdgin ?
[01:16] <gazra> vnc doesn't work on KDE 4.3.2?????
[01:16] <gazra> I have tired everything, it just doesn't work!!
[01:17] <gazra> It works on Xubuntu, but not in Kubuntu, the problem is definietely the server.
[01:21] <trampel> gazra: i don't know much beyond VNC changing earlier this year and that one should follow the instructions here:  http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1078497   (which worked for me ...good luck)
[01:22] <gazra> trampel: so krfb doesn't work at all???
[01:22] <gazra> trampel: Now I have to do it all manually?
[01:22] <trampel> gazra: don't know what krfb is, i'm afraid, sorry.
[01:23] <gazra> hahaha, that's the kde vnc server
[01:23] <gazra> sorry for not clearifying
[01:23] <gazra> ;-)
[01:23] <gazra> If you have Kubuntu installed then you have it
[01:25] <bugman> Later, thanks for the help.
[01:28] <cjae> Hi, Is dual head broken in karmic completely or what
[01:29] <cjae> I am trying to enable twinview
[01:29] <dhrosa> hello, is there anything I can do about kubuntu netbook remix's performance on the EEE?
[01:29] <dhrosa> the GUI is incredibly laggy compared to UBR ><
[01:30] <dhrosa> UNR*
[01:30] <v1ttu_> install something better
[01:30] <v1ttu_> knr is a pretty bad
[01:30] <v1ttu_> -a
[01:30] <cjae> nvidia-settings says failed to parse file
[01:30] <dhrosa> hmm...
[01:31] <dhrosa> cjae: run nvidia-xconfig first
[01:32] <dhrosa> what about normal kubuntu?
[01:32] <v1ttu_> that sucks too
[01:32] <dhrosa> you seem to be in the wrong channel :p
[01:33] <dhrosa> specificaly for the EEE, or in general?
[01:33] <v1ttu_> it sucks on netbooks
[01:34] <dhrosa> I see
[01:36] <dylan_> hey my opengl is flickering does anyone know why this might be?
[01:36] <v1ttu_> graphics card?
[01:36] <dylan_> intel
[01:37] <v1ttu_> chip type?
[01:37] <trampel> (blood type?)
[01:37] <v1ttu_> yes
[01:37] <v1ttu_> i want to suck you
[01:37] <dylan_> how do i find out which chip type it is
[01:37] <v1ttu_> lspci -v
[01:38] <dylan_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/313769/
[01:38] <Walzmyn> I always forget, what's the secret magic password to get flash to work on a 64 bit install?
[01:40] <v1ttu_> 4300
[01:41] <d9500> Walzmyn, the secret password is to go to adobe's website for the 64-bit flash player for linux, download the tar.gz, extract it, and then copy libflashplayer.so to your ~/.mozilla/plugins folder. i've nevr had a working bug-free flash install using 64-bit OS and nspluginswrapper
[01:42] <dylan_> so any idea why the opengl is flickering
[01:42] <dylan_> ?
[01:42] <Walzmyn> d9500: thanks
[01:42] <v1ttu_> hmmm
[01:43] <v1ttu_> when does it flicker?
[01:43] <dylan_> all the time
[01:43] <dylan_> i try to start open arena
[01:43] <v1ttu_> even at the login?
[01:43] <dylan_> and it flickers non stop
[01:43] <Walzmyn> d9500: adobe's got download version for 8.04+ that still good for 9.10?
[01:44] <dylan_> basically any game that uses open gl flickers right when i start it
[01:44] <dylan_> but earlier i was being a fool and i typed nvidia-xconfig into the terminal so think that's what fcked me up
[01:44] <v1ttu_> lol
[01:45] <dylan_> i just don't know how to fix it now
[01:45] <d9500> Walzmyn, not sure. i just google "64-bit flash" and then go to the link that says something like "adobe labs 64-bit flash" and then there's a download link at the bottom of the page. just be sure to download the tar.gz from that page, extract it, and close firefox first. firefox should not be running when you're copying the plugin to your plugins folder.
[01:46] <v1ttu_> intel-xconfig?
[01:46] <dylan_> i have a download going could that be causing the open gl to flicker?
[01:47] <d9500> dylan_, don't know if nvidia-xconfig would even run if you have an intel gpu, but you can always stop X, drop to VT, do cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home/[yourusername]/xorg.conf.bak, then run Xorg -configure to get  basic xorg.conf.
[01:47] <v1ttu_> oh he installed the nvidia driver?
[01:47] <dylan_> possibly
[01:47] <bbigras> virtualbox ask me to install the virtualbox-ose-source package even if I have it. is there a problem while building the vbox module?
[01:48] <d9500> it will make a new xorg.conf in /root. copy that one that your etc/X11 folder.
[01:48] <cjae> um what is the plasma dashboard for, I thought it was for installing widgets you did not want on your desktop as cultter
[01:49] <cjae> but everytime I do click it off the widget sticks on my desktop
[01:51] <v1ttu_> xorg -configure may not work if he has the nvidia driver installed
[01:51] <dylan_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/313777/
[01:51] <dylan_> that's what i got back
[01:52] <binario> hi everyone from Kubuntu Karmic 9.10 netbook edition
[01:53] <v1ttu_> hello?
[01:53] <Walzmyn> Ahh, thank you d9500, it are working.
[01:53] <dylan_> i downgraded to 9.04 again it turns out that the kernal wasnt the issue
[01:53] <binario> I have a problem doesnt find answer around websites
[01:53] <v1ttu_> huh
[01:53] <v1ttu_> 9.04?
[01:53] <dylan_> some forums said it was dns problem
[01:53] <dylan_> kubuntu 9.04
[01:54] <d9500> you're welcome, Walzmyn
[01:54] <binario> how to change default font size to gtk applications ?
[01:54] <v1ttu_> you were using 9.04?
[01:54] <dylan_> i was using 9.10 but having serious problems with internet
[01:54] <dylan_> :/
[01:54] <v1ttu_> i thought you had the opengl problem?
[01:55] <d9500> dylan_, see my pm in response to yours as to why Xorg -configure may not have worked.
[01:55] <binario> how to run this window https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KarmicKoala/Alpha6/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=kcm-gtk2.png
 i was using 9.10 but having serious problems with internet
[01:55] <seige36> can someone help me with amarok please? http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3107881.0
[01:55] <d9500> dylan_, also, did you install the nvidia driuver, or just run nvidia-settings to see what it would do?
[01:55] <Ev0luti0n_> don't you know that internet is serious business?
[01:56] <dylan_> i installed the driver i think
[01:56] <v1ttu_> how?
[01:56] <dylan_> i was trying to solve my open gl problem and it lead me to try to insall the nvidia driver
[01:56] <dylan_> and then i regretted it
[01:57] <v1ttu_> how did you install the driver?
[01:57] <dylan_> synaptic
[01:57] <binario> how to change gtk appaerance ?
[01:57] <v1ttu_> ugh
[01:57] <v1ttu_> stupid urban legend
[01:57] <v1ttu_> you need to remove it the same way you installed it
[01:58] <dylan_> lol i hope it doesnt mess my crap up even worse lol
[01:58] <v1ttu_> it can get worse?
[01:58] <d9500> dylan_, are you able to get to a gui now or just to console?
[01:58] <dylan_> yea my desktop could crash o.O
[01:58] <binario> Does anyone with gtk font size problems in kubuntu 9.10 ?
[01:58] <v1ttu_> just remember xrog -configure
[01:58] <v1ttu_> xorg*
[01:58] <dylan_> can't even do it
[01:59] <v1ttu_> ?
[01:59] <dylan_> it says something about it running already
[01:59] <d9500> dylan_,  from your pastebin, it seems like X is already running, or trying to run. Xorg -configure must be ran with X stopped
[01:59] <v1ttu_> what does it say exactly?
[01:59] <dylan_> ok so how do i stop x
[02:00] <v1ttu_> hold on
[02:00] <d9500> are you in a gui now or just in console?
[02:00] <v1ttu_> what does it say about running?
[02:00] <v1ttu_> do you mean the x server?
[02:00] <dylan_> console
[02:00] <d9500> dylan_, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[02:01] <d9500> or gdm stop if you're using gnome
[02:01] <v1ttu_> it wont work
[02:01] <dylan_> ok now i ended up installing nvidia 173 kernal source
[02:01] <v1ttu_> what are you doing d9500?
[02:01] <d9500> trying to help. had the same problem before. take over if you want
[02:01] <v1ttu_> if he runs that xserver goes down
[02:02] <v1ttu_> what are you thinking?
[02:02] <d9500> i know. he said he was in console already
[02:02] <v1ttu_> terminal
[02:02] <v1ttu_> i'm guessing
[02:02] <d9500> terminal emulator...aggh! i owe him an apology
[02:02] <v1ttu_> lol
[02:03] <Novice> How do I cd to the desktop?
[02:03] <d9500> but if he uninstall the nvidia drivers in synaptic, then he's not going to be able to start X anyway, since they overwrite part of the X server
[02:03] <v1ttu_> cd desktop
[02:03] <v1ttu_> is the command
[02:03] <d9500> cd Desktop
[02:03] <v1ttu_> oh crap
[02:03] <v1ttu_> yes
[02:03] <d9500> Desktop has to start with a capital lettr
[02:03] <v1ttu_> stupid case
[02:04] <d9500> well v1ttu_  at least you didn't just drop someone to a VT.
[02:04] <v1ttu_> lol
[02:04] <v1ttu_> i was thinking of homne
[02:04] <v1ttu_> -n
[02:04] <v1ttu_> xD
[02:04] <Novice> Says no such file or directory when I tray to cd to desktop
[02:04] <v1ttu_> Deskto[
[02:05] <v1ttu_> case sensitive
[02:05] <v1ttu_> Desktop*
[02:05] <Novice> tried caps on D did not work
[02:05] <v1ttu_> weird
[02:06] <v1ttu_> cd /home/yourusername/Desktop
[02:06] <Novice> ok thx got it to work yeah
[02:06] <v1ttu_> :P
[02:08] <russlar> !hammertime
[02:08] <v1ttu_> hammertime!
[02:08] <russlar> ubottu forgot about hammertime
[02:08] <v1ttu_> i don't
[02:08] <v1ttu_> suck my sparkplugs?
[02:10] <russlar> !hammertime
[02:10] <russlar> wow
[02:10] <bbigras> hehe
[02:11] <russlar> the bot knows different things depending on which channel you're in
[02:11] <maco> v1ttu_: hey, do you think you could refrain from using the word "suck" with possessive pronouns?
[02:12] <v1ttu_> do you find it offensive?
[02:12] <maco> yes
[02:12] <v1ttu_> why?
[02:13] <dylan_> ok......
[02:13] <dylan_> now my desktop graphics are disabled to
[02:13] <v1ttu_> what?
[02:13] <v1ttu_> what did you do?
[02:13] <dylan_> it just got worse
[02:13] <maco> because you started this when Ev0luti0n_ was talking about sexual topics, and i'd rather keep the innuendo to a minimum. i am not comfortable with such topics.
[02:13] <dylan_> i did what d900 said
[02:13] <v1ttu_> maco it was a joke
[02:13] <d9500> dylan_, i am so sorry. i didn't realize when you said terminal you probably meant terminal emulator, and not that you couldn't get to a gui
[02:13] <maco> v1ttu_: thankfully, joking is not a requirement for giving tech support
[02:14] <BluesKaj> !language | v1ttu_
[02:14] <dylan_> lol well do u know how to fix it
[02:14] <d9500> i didn't mean to stop the gui on your system, if that's what happened, although ultimately you'll have to do that probably to get the intel gpu working again
[02:14] <Ev0luti0n_> maco: why aren't you confortable with it?
[02:14] <d9500> yes i can fix it.
[02:14] <v1ttu_> maco please don't tell me what to say, humour hurts no one
[02:14] <Ev0luti0n_> sex and sexual interaction or whatever are part of life?
[02:14] <v1ttu_> evolution
[02:14] <v1ttu_> ?
[02:14] <v1ttu_> they allowed you back?
[02:14] <Ev0luti0n_> [02:13] <maco> because you started this when Ev0luti0n_ was talking about sexual topics, and i'd rather keep the innuendo to a minimum. i am not comfortable with such topics.
[02:14] <Ev0luti0n_> yeah
[02:14] <v1ttu_> kk
[02:14] <Ev0luti0n_> i don't want to start an argument
[02:15] <d9500> pm me if you want, dylan. there's an argument going on in channel
[02:15] <Ev0luti0n_> nor get banned
[02:15] <Ev0luti0n_> just talking
[02:15] <v1ttu_> anyway dylan
[02:15] <v1ttu_> what did you do?
[02:15] <maco> did you consider that if there are maybe 5 women out of the 279 people in this channel, we might be just a *little* bit uncomfortable with sexual topics coming up while we are so outnumbered?
[02:16] <russlar> !ot
[02:16] <maco> additionally, sex is not part of everyone's lives. have a little consideration for asexuals (if you dont know anything about asexuality, please see asexuality.org)
[02:16] <v1ttu_> women talk more freely about sex than men generally so why are you so embarrassed?
[02:17] <maco> now, can we please stick to technical topics?
[02:17] <BluesKaj> !offtopic
[02:17] <v1ttu_> you brought up the subject maco
[02:17] <v1ttu_> fine
[02:17] <Ev0luti0n_> maco: are you female?
[02:17] <v1ttu_> are you still there dylan?
[02:17] <d9500> v1ttu: i told him to let you handle it if he wanted.
[02:18] <v1ttu_> huh
[02:18] <v1ttu_> ok
[02:18] <russlar> wut?
[02:18] <v1ttu_> lol
[02:18] <dylan_> k i'm here
[02:18] <maco> Ev0luti0n_: yes
[02:18] <v1ttu_> right what did you do?
[02:18] <maco> last i checked at least
[02:18] <v1ttu_> how dod you disable anything?
[02:18] <v1ttu_> -i +d
[02:18] <dylan_> d9500 what is the command u gave me ?
[02:19] <v1ttu_> sudo e/tcinit.d?
[02:19] <v1ttu_> doh
[02:19] <v1ttu_> sudo /etc/init.d
[02:19] <v1ttu_> that command?
[02:19] <dylan_> something like that
[02:19] <v1ttu_> it takes down the xserver
[02:19] <v1ttu_> not good
[02:19] <v1ttu_> unless you know what you're doing
[02:19] <d9500> the one that killed the GUI? sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop. do NOT run that until you're reaady to drop our of the standard point and click interface, which you will eventually need to do if you want to reconfigure Xorg, but not now.
[02:20] <v1ttu_> are you using 9.10 now?
[02:20] <d9500> out of the standard*
[02:20] <dylan_> no 9.04
[02:20] <dylan_> 9.10 is buggy
[02:20] <dylan_> so i downgraded again
[02:20] <v1ttu_> you're using 9.04 right now?
[02:20] <dylan_> yea
[02:21] <v1ttu_> ok
[02:21] <v1ttu_> is it a frsh install?
[02:21] <dylan_> yea
[02:21] <v1ttu_> and?
[02:21] <v1ttu_> what is the problem now?
[02:21] <v1ttu_> fresh*
[02:22] <dylan_> d9500 what exactly did that command do?
[02:22] <dylan_> my computer says i'm in low graphic mode
[02:22] <dylan_> when i booted up the first time
[02:22] <v1ttu_> did you run it on 9.10?
[02:22] <dylan_> no
[02:22] <v1ttu_> ok
[02:22] <v1ttu_> it stops the xserver
[02:22] <v1ttu_> and takes you to the system underneath
[02:22] <v1ttu_> the command line
[02:23] <v1ttu_> xserver = user interface
[02:23] <dylan_> oh i see, well how do i get xserver back to normal???
[02:24] <v1ttu_> what is the exact problem you're having now?
[02:24] <dylan_> well i booted up and i got stuck in this screen that told me i was in low graphic mode
[02:24] <dylan_> and i got past that
[02:24] <d9500> dylan_, linux systems run a graphical user interface (gui) based on a windowing system called X server. that's the familiar point and click interface where you can use the mouse, open firefox, etc. the actual system underneath the gui can run just fine without X server, but if you've never been dropped to just the command line, it can be unnerving. again, i shouldn't have told you to run that, and i apologize.
[02:24] <v1ttu_> how did you get past it?
[02:25] <dylan_> it asked me if i wanted to start in low graphic mode and it was pretty much my only option so i ddi it
[02:25] <dylan_> did*
[02:25] <v1ttu_> ok
[02:25] <v1ttu_> do you want use 3d?
[02:25] <dylan_> yea
[02:25] <v1ttu_> to use*
[02:25] <v1ttu_> then forget about 9.04
[02:25] <dylan_> .....???
[02:26] <v1ttu_> lol
[02:26] <dylan_> my internet won't run on 9.10
[02:26] <v1ttu_> it has major problems with intel chips
[02:26] <d9500> major intel graphics bugs in 9.04
[02:26] <v1ttu_> oh god
[02:26] <v1ttu_> ummm
[02:26] <v1ttu_> what type of internet connection do you have?
[02:26] <dylan_> wifi
[02:26] <v1ttu_> adaptor?
[02:26] <dylan_> no it's built in
[02:27] <v1ttu_> ok this is getting a little confusing
[02:27] <v1ttu_> do you have msn?
[02:27] <dylan_> no i have yahoo dsl
[02:27] <v1ttu_> meh
[02:27] <dylan_> well i basically know what the problem is
[02:27] <v1ttu_> could you make an msn account?
[02:27] <dylan_> in 9.10
[02:27] <dylan_> i can connect to my modem
[02:28] <v1ttu_> it would be easier to help you on there
[02:28] <seige36> can someone help me with amarok please? http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3107881.0
[02:28] <dylan_> but when i go to enter an address i get stalled for like 40 seconds before it goes
[02:29] <dylan_> for example lets say i type in google.com
[02:29] <v1ttu_> dsl modem?
[02:29] <dylan_> yea
[02:29] <dylan_> and the status bar says "looking up google.com"
[02:29] <dylan_> for like 40 seconds
[02:29] <dylan_> before it goes to google.com
[02:29] <v1ttu_> dsl error
[02:29] <v1ttu_> dsn
[02:29] <v1ttu_> *
[02:29] <dylan_> dns?
[02:29] <v1ttu_> yeah that
[02:29] <v1ttu_> lol
[02:30] <dylan_> i read that in some forums
[02:30] <dylan_> but noone really had an answer on how to fix it
[02:30] <v1ttu_> ive had wifi problems like that with 9.10
[02:30] <dylan_> how did u fix it/
[02:30] <dylan_> ?
[02:30] <v1ttu_> okok if you want 3d you need to install 9.10
[02:31] <v1ttu_> or 8.04
[02:31] <dylan_> do u know how to fix the dns issue in 9.10?
[02:31] <v1ttu_> depends if it's the same problem
[02:31] <dylan_> well what did u do to fix yours?
[02:32] <v1ttu_> updated the kernel
[02:32] <dylan_> i tried that it didnt work
[02:33] <v1ttu_> kernel version?
[02:33] <dylan_> it's the latest one i don't remember of the top of my head but it was the latest one
[02:33] <v1ttu_> 2.6.32 RC6?
[02:33] <dylan_> yea
[02:33] <v1ttu_> hmm
[02:33] <v1ttu_> strange
[02:33] <v1ttu_> what wireless adaptor do you have?
[02:34] <dylan_> what command do i type in for that
[02:35] <dylan_> if i had to guess it's exact name it's intel wifi link 5100
[02:35] <dylan_> but the desktop effects were working before i killed the gui
[02:36] <dylan_> and now they're not
[02:37] <dylan_> ok i'm just gonna upgrade to 9.10 and redownload quassel and work from there..
[02:39] <pleintonpipe> Can someone help me, I installed the 9.10 patch yesterday and everything was fine but till this morning I can only set the resolution to 800x600 max
[02:42] <pleintonpipe> damn..
[02:44] <d9500> i would try to help, but i think i've already caused enough trouble today trying to fix graphics bugs.
[02:45] <v1ttu_> Z_Z
[02:45] <pleintonpipe> ok haha
[02:45] <v1ttu_> lol
[02:45] <pleintonpipe> im fucked
[02:45] <v1ttu_> what graphics card/chip do you have pie?
[02:45] <m_tadeu> hi everyone
[02:46] <m_tadeu> my 3gp videos have no sound...
[02:46] <pleintonpipe> emm.. what's the command line to see my hardwares?
[02:46] <v1ttu_> try
[02:46] <v1ttu_> lspci -nn
[02:46] <Dragnslcr> !language | pleintonpipe
[02:47] <v1ttu_> ubottu you are slower than a snail glued to a brick
[02:47] <v1ttu_> i don'tttttttttt
[02:47] <pleintonpipe> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2572] (rev 02)
[02:47] <v1ttu_> oh
[02:47] <v1ttu_> i have that :)
[02:48] <v1ttu_> what is your normal res?
[02:48] <v1ttu_> pie?
[02:48] <v1ttu_> h
[02:48] <v1ttu_> e
[02:48] <v1ttu_> l
[02:48] <v1ttu_> o
[02:48] <FloodBotK3> v1ttu_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:48] <pleintonpipe> not sure but like 1060 something by 700 something normal screen
[02:49] <v1ttu_> did you update yesterday?
[02:49] <pleintonpipe> yep
[02:49] <v1ttu_> lol
[02:49] <v1ttu_> ugh
[02:49] <v1ttu_> ok
[02:49] <v1ttu_> try xorg -configure
[02:49] <v1ttu_> in terminal
[02:50] <v1ttu_> brb
[02:50] <pleintonpipe> No command 'xorg' found, did you mean:
[02:50] <v1ttu_> k
[02:50] <pleintonpipe>  Command 'forg' from package 'forg' (universe)
[02:50] <v1ttu_> oh god
[02:50] <v1ttu_> Xorg
[02:50] <pleintonpipe> ?
[02:50] <v1ttu_> you need the capital
[02:50] <v1ttu_> Xorg -configure
[02:51] <pleintonpipe> I'm a newb, I dont know what's going on
[02:51] <pleintonpipe> ohh!
[02:51] <v1ttu_> lol
[02:51] <v1ttu_> my fault
[02:51] <v1ttu_> anything?
[02:51] <pleintonpipe> Server is allready displayd
[02:51] <m_tadeu> does anyone know what to do to have sound in 3gp videos?
[02:51] <pleintonpipe> If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[02:52] <v1ttu_> ok
[02:52] <v1ttu_> do you have a second pc around?
[02:52] <pleintonpipe> yess
[02:52] <v1ttu_> can you get to this irc channel on it?
[02:53] <pleintonpipe> not now and I dont think he have any Irc chat prog
[02:53] <v1ttu_> do you have the kubuntu livecd?
[02:53] <pleintonpipe> no
[02:53] <v1ttu_> ugh
[02:53] <v1ttu_> can you print?
[02:53] <pleintonpipe> no :S
[02:53] <v1ttu_> lmao
[02:54] <v1ttu_> does the other pc have msn?
[02:54] <pleintonpipe> yep
[02:54] <v1ttu_> okkkkkkk
[02:54] <v1ttu_> use that
[02:54] <v1ttu_> whats your address?
[02:54] <pleintonpipe> maturoitatipi@hotmail
[02:54] <v1ttu_> .com?
[02:54] <pleintonpipe> think its the only one
[02:55] <v1ttu_> kk
[02:55] <v1ttu_> sign into that and and ill add
[02:55] <pleintonpipe> but I cant go on the other computer
[02:56] <v1ttu_> LOL
[02:56] <v1ttu_> why?
[02:57] <pleintonpipe> it's my coloc and he isnt thre
[02:57] <pleintonpipe> there
[02:58] <v1ttu_> huh?
[02:58] <pleintonpipe> lol srry
[02:58] <v1ttu_> ?
[02:59] <pleintonpipe> the guy who lives with me, who the other computer belong to, is not there so i cant log on from another computer
[02:59] <v1ttu_> just turn the pc on?
[03:00] <pleintonpipe> its allready on
[03:00] <v1ttu_> o-k
[03:00] <v1ttu_> so just sign into msn?
[03:04] <lizzzy> Why aren't there any cgi-bin or html folders under my /var/www folder?
[03:05] <mark__> how do i launch adept
[03:05] <mark__> when i search for it i don't see it
[03:06] <maco> lizzzy: because you havent created them?
[03:06] <d9500> mark__, open terminal, then type kdesudo adept. enter your password when prompted
[03:06] <lizzzy> maco: I thought it should be there by default?
[03:07] <maco> lizzzy: since you can have >1 website on one server, you can have >1 cgi-bin/ directory. why make one that may not be in the right spot?
[03:07] <rfoney> let us have a hacker meetup at walmart
[03:08] <rfoney> does anyone have msn or gmail they would like to share?
[03:08] <rfoney> it is much easier to chat with than this stoopid irc
[03:08] <v1ttu_> what's wrong with irc?
[03:08] <mark__> it opens a window but it closes right away
[03:08] <lizzzy> maco: Gotcha. Thanks!
[03:08] <rfoney> no interferance from the bah (bots acting humans)
[03:08] <maco> you type text and hit enter. it sends. other people type text and hit enter. you see it. whats the difference?
[03:09] <v1ttu_> what do you need help with rfoney?
[03:09] <rfoney> today as I ran out of gass on the way back, I saw that verizon has moved into this area, I am much exite.
[03:09] <v1ttu_> wtf?
[03:09] <mark__> when i type into terminal kdesudo adept it launches a window but the window closes immediately
[03:09] <maco> er...this channel has a topic
[03:10] <maco> mark__: do you even have adept installed?
[03:10] <mark__> how do i install it?
[03:10] <v1ttu_> yes which in no way involves ex
[03:10] <v1ttu_> sex*
[03:10] <rfoney> vlttu, I was just trying to get some hackers emails so if I had any question at various times throughout the day
[03:10] <v1ttu_> hackers?
[03:10] <rfoney> yes, the it guys
[03:10] <rfoney> is this not correct?
[03:10] <v1ttu_> dude i have no idea wtf you're talking about
[03:10] <rfoney> information technology
[03:11] <v1ttu_> duh
[03:11] <rfoney> ^_-
[03:11] <maco> rfoney: you can always come here when you need help
[03:11] <v1ttu_> okkkkkkkk i'm getting bored now
[03:11] <rfoney> ahh, super. thank you
[03:12] <maco> i dont think anyone's going to volunteer to be your own personal always-on-call tech support, for free
[03:12] <rfoney> does anyone sometimes misscount when they do speed reading for repeat numbers?
[03:12] <rfoney> sometimes it seems the ammount of repeats change.
[03:12] <v1ttu_> ?
[03:12] <rfoney> I mean the repeat numbers and letters.
[03:12] <v1ttu_> wtf are you talking about?
[03:13] <rfoney> well most specifically, I was referencing to the okkkkkkk you had typed, I counted the k's without making eye contact with each
[03:13] <rfoney> at first I counted 7, but then I counted 8
[03:13] <v1ttu_> lmao damn i thought i was bored
[03:14] <rfoney> yes, a computer would not make this type of mistake I believe though.
[03:14] <v1ttu_> they aren't sentient?
[03:14] <rfoney> yes but some are trained to believe they are.
[03:15] <v1ttu_> dude quit the w33d
[03:15] <d9500> this is what happens when the channel gets quiet. heh
[03:15] <russlar>  ━━▊ ━━▊ ━━▊
[03:15] <rfoney> heh
[03:16] <rfoney> I see ze gavel from the judge.
[03:16] <rfoney> 3 to be exact >_>
[03:16] <rfoney> so what is everyone doing tonight?
[03:16] <rfoney> anything worth of irc?
[03:17] <v1ttu_> no i've been here 6 hours??????????
[03:17] <v1ttu_> damn time to go
[03:17] <v1ttu_> cya
[03:20] <mark__> i don't hear any sound
[03:20] <russlar> **crickets**
[03:20] <mark__> checked mixer nothing is muted
[03:21] <mark__> i have a msi wind u120
[03:21] <mark__> is it a driver issue?
[03:21] <russlar> mark__: you're runnign karmic?
[03:21] <mark__> yes
[03:22] <russlar> mark__: google it. there've been a crap-ton of issues with audio in karmic
[03:22] <mark__> it worked when i had unr on here
[03:22] <mark__> could it be a  driver issue?
[03:23] <mark__> does the regular versions of ubuntu not have the netbook drivers?
[03:24] <maco> they all use the same kernel
[03:36] <mark__> anyone here have a msi wind?
[03:36] <mark__> also im using the prerelease updates
[03:36] <mark__> could that have broken something?
[03:37] <mark__> ??
[03:40] <mark__> hello????
[03:51]  * rfoney hopes the cxomputer can fix itself.
[04:04] <dylan_> hey can anyone tell me why in ubuntu karmic my internet is super slow?
[04:06] <deitarion> Whenever I install something, Perl complains about a failure to set "en_CA.utf8" as the locale. (It's a Jaunty chroot on top of Gentoo Linux) Is there a package I should install or do I set a different locale in my go_chroot.sh wrapper?
[04:08] <russlar> !fail
[04:22] <trooperx> how its called ? http://img194.yfrog.com/img194/6655/44343.jpg
[04:26] <trooperx> how its called ? http://img194.yfrog.com/img194/6655/44343.jpg
[04:30] <trooperx> how its called ? http://img194.yfrog.com/img194/6655/44343.jpg
[04:37] <trooperx>  how its called ? http://img194.yfrog.com/img194/6655/44343.jpg
[04:39] <russlar> !ops
[04:39] <JontheEchidna> not exactly an ops situation, more like:
[04:39] <JontheEchidna> !patience
[04:39] <trooperx> what the hell
[04:39] <maco> sorry
[04:40] <maco> thought you were spamming
[04:40] <trooperx> ok sorry
[04:40] <trooperx> you can awnser me please ?
[04:40] <maco> ummm JontheEchidna might be able to
[04:40]  * maco looks at JontheEchidna 
[04:40] <maco> i dont know how these graphical thingies work :P
[04:40] <trooperx> hmm i dont think so someone tell me and i forget if you tell me the name i will remember
[04:40] <JontheEchidna> hmm, maybe that's a custom task manager that has an icon-only mode?
[04:40] <russlar> trooperx: that looks like daisy-launcher
[04:41] <JontheEchidna> oh, could be daisy
[04:41] <trooperx> yes yes daisy
[04:41] <trooperx> thanks
[04:41] <maco> trooperx: sorry, again
[04:41] <russlar> np
[04:41] <russlar> sorry ops!
[04:41] <trooperx> look http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6677/98882460.png
[04:41] <maco> trooperx: its not uncommon for people to post "bad" image links repeatedly as a way to troll
[04:41] <JontheEchidna> definitely daisy
[04:41] <maco> trooperx: so the reposting made me think it was one of those situations
[04:42]  * maco got scared
[04:42] <trooperx> i hungryy grr
[04:42] <trooperx> where i get the latest version to daisy ?
[04:43] <JontheEchidna> sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-daisy should get you a fairly recent version
[04:43] <JontheEchidna> to get the latest you'd have to compile it yourself
[04:43] <trooperx> ah i dont know how to compile i just use your command thanks
[04:44] <JontheEchidna> you will have to run "kbuildsycoca4" before it will show up in the list
[04:44] <trooperx> how to comiple ?
[04:47] <trooperx> daisy dont have web right ?
[04:47] <JontheEchidna> http://daisyplasma.freehostia.com/pages/download.php
[04:47] <trooperx> thanks man
[04:49] <trooperx> can you send me guide how to compile please ?
[04:50] <JontheEchidna> extract the download somewhere nice
[04:50] <JontheEchidna> then in the terminal, cd to the directory
[04:50] <JontheEchidna> mkdir build; cd build
[04:50] <JontheEchidna> cmake ../ -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr
[04:50] <JontheEchidna> make
[04:50] <JontheEchidna> sudo make install
[04:50] <JontheEchidna> kbuildsycoca4
[04:50] <FloodBotK3> JontheEchidna: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:50] <JontheEchidna> then it should be in your widgets list
[04:51] <trooperx> ok thanks , this is how to compile only daisy or its every software source ?
[04:52] <JontheEchidna> well, daisy will be the only thing in there to compile
[04:53] <trooperx> cool its works thanks
[04:54] <trooperx> how i upgrade my kde to 4.3.3 ?
[04:54] <JontheEchidna> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.3
[04:54] <maco> 9.10 includes 4.3.3
[04:54] <maco> doesnt it?
[04:54] <trooperx> no
[04:54] <trooperx> where is the "Kubuntu Backports PPA"?
[04:55] <russlar> trooperx: it's the repo loisted in that link
[04:55] <trooperx> wait , i dont understand . where i need to write "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu karmic main" ?
[04:55] <JontheEchidna> Just add ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports as a custom repository to the Software Sources editor in Kpackagekit
[04:56] <JontheEchidna> in KPackageKit, Settings -> Edit Software Sources
[04:56] <trooperx> ok i will try later thanks , last question .  how i install nvidia-190glx
[04:57] <JontheEchidna> then go to the "Other software" tab
[04:57] <trooperx> because i have in drivers only 185-glx
[04:57] <JontheEchidna> then add ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[04:57] <JontheEchidna> there might be a ppa with 190 somewhere, but it's not in mainstream 9.10
[04:57] <JontheEchidna> a bit too late with the release I'm afraid :(
[04:58] <JontheEchidna> well, I should get to bed
[04:58] <trooperx> good night and thanks
[04:58] <trooperx> oh wait
[04:59] <trooperx> why after every restart i need to write a password in my Hardrive ( ntfs)
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[05:13] <maco> O_O
[05:13] <russlar> maco: busy night, eh?
[05:16] <trooperx> where is the repository
[05:19] <arrrghhh> are there any pulse experts here?
[05:21] <trooperx> 2
[05:21] <trooperx> 2
[05:21] <trooperx> 23214214
[05:21] <FloodBotK3> trooperx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:23] <trooperx> lalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallalalallal
[05:50] <catamarquence> juuuuuuuuuuuuuust as i thought, pretty quiet...
[05:50] <maco> catamarquence: actually, this is a switch
[05:50] <maco> its been very trolly all day
[05:50] <catamarquence> i believe u
[05:56] <luis_> hello people good nite
[05:57] <luis_> i lost sound after last updating can u guys helpme pls to egt it back?
[05:59] <luis_> i am using kubuntu 8.04
[06:15] <jonathan__> good morning all :)
[06:32] <tarik> any one still up
[06:33] <jussio1> no, but I just got up.
[06:33] <jussio1> !anyone | tarik
[06:33] <cdspace00303> hi
[06:34] <tarik> how u doing jussy
[06:34] <jussio1> tarik: this is a support channel. if you just want to chatter, try #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:35] <hellhound> i just upgraded to kubuntu 9.10 and I am using Kopete 0.80.2.  I am having trouble with the facebook plugin.  It keeps me in the away status and will not load my friends list
[06:36] <tarik> where here for support but  it   wud  be rude not to  say  hello
[06:39] <tarik> so  any body can help me install  my  usb   modem on    kubuntu
[06:41] <dylan_> so kubuntu 9.10 blows 9.04 out of the water, i'm happy. finally fixed my dns bug
[06:43] <tarik> no support here or what
[06:53] <rfoney> sometimes really ugly people are the virgins.
[06:57] <jussio1> rfoney: please keep it family friendly in here.
[07:02] <rfoney> ^peter^: how to you arp ajax?
[07:11] <davidjheinrich> hi all, has anyone here used the HP PhotoSmart Premium C309 or HP OfficeJet 8500 ?
[07:34] <rfoney> if there were only three people alive the last night before human extinction which configuration would we want them? two males, one female? two females, one male?
[07:35] <davidjheinrich> two females, one male, obviously
[07:35] <davidjheinrich> and what a lucky bastard he'd be
[07:36] <Gildx> #joomla
[07:48] <maco> er...
[07:49] <maco> well that was an interesting conversation...
[07:49] <maco> why mix genders at all if extinction is guaranteed? apparently they wont be reproducing to save the species
[07:54] <rfoney> how would shiva express itself within the matrix system?
[07:55]  * rfoney wonders how gold would fare in the center of a tree.
[07:56] <rfoney>     
[07:56] <rfoney> __._.
[07:57] <jussio1> rfoney: please keep on topic here. Use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter.
[07:58]  * rfoney wonders how love would be different outside of the matrix
[07:59] <mrnice> hi all
[07:59] <mrnice> how can I play other codecs in firefox?
[08:47] <vasko> hi all, i've upgraded 8.04 to 9.10 yesterday and i am facing an unpleasant problem. while having two KDE sessions and utilising switch user, while working on second users session, having first locked with a screensaver, the first session suddenly crashes, likely on an incoming icq message (kopete) or on the korgac notify. last lines in .xsession-errors are these http://paste.ubuntu.com/313929/
[08:48] <vasko> GPU is nvidia 8600GT
[08:50] <vasko> behaviour is the same on distribution kernel as well as on self compiled one either with distribution nvidia driver or 190.42
[08:51] <vasko> and one more thing -- twinview is in use also, if it matters
[08:54] <vasko> finally i've turned off 'enable desktop effects' on both sessions, since then it keeps running, so far, but i would prefer a better solution. any hints?
[09:04] <Xiella> Sorry, nubby question.  I see two copies of Gwenview in the Open With dialog (for an image).  They are identical except one has %m at the end.  What does the %m mean and which should I use to open my photo?
[09:05] <maco> Xiella: i dont think it matters
[09:06] <Xiella> maco: ah, alright. thank you.
[09:07] <funkiwan> any thoughts on why konsole wouldn't be saving my tabs?
[09:27] <nisstyre> I'm getting these errors when I try and right click a folder in KDE using Dolphin http://pastebin.com/m4a6aa362 any help?
[09:27] <nisstyre> Also can't open any folders, they just 'load" and nothing happens
[09:28] <nisstyre> but I can CD to them in bash
[09:36] <nisstyre> reinstalled plasma and now I get no errors but it still goes to a black screen and then back to the desktop
[09:38] <CptnAwesome> why does kubuntu have to be so big? is there a kubuntu-desktop-lite ??
[09:41] <bigbrovar> CptnAwesome: nothing stops you from installing a minimal ubuntu with just CLI and build your kde from there the way you like it :)
[09:42] <CptnAwesome> bigbrovar, i did that except i installed lxde hoping for a nice snappy desktop, but im lazy and im missig the sexy kde desktop.....
[09:43] <bigbrovar> CptnAwesome> you can even make a kubuntu-lite metapackage. better still you can write a script which would remove all the "bloats" you dont need on kubuntu. Thants what I did
[09:43] <CptnAwesome> wanna share the script?
[09:43] <d9500> CptnAwesome, i've done just what bigbrovar just suggested before, also with lxde. you can try starting with the minimal install and then doing sudo aptitude install --without-recommends kubuntu-desktop, but last time I tried that, it seemed to be missing a few things on first logon, like the ability to use the gtk-qtt engine to make gtk apps look like qt ones.
[09:44] <CptnAwesome> that all sounds nice, but im a bit of a noob
[09:45] <Idhan>  how can I compress a folder with password using tar ??
[09:45] <bigbrovar> d9500> am sure it would, the kde-devs added lots of things to kubuntu to make it just work and for usabiliy purpose, if you feel its bloated, you can either stripout the blot or DIY
[09:45] <d9500> CptnAwesome, well, are there any kde programs you know for sure you won't use? go through adept and ininstall them, one at a time if necessary. write down the package names, so if you need to ever do a fresh install, you just just do "sudo aptitude remove {paste names of all the unused packages here]"
[09:45] <d9500> uninstall them*
[09:46] <valgaav> d9500:  adept ?
[09:46] <bigbrovar> d9500: you mean packagekit :)
[09:46] <valgaav> adept still lives ? :D
[09:46] <CptnAwesome> ahh ok, so if i use thunderbird, i can just 'apt-get uninstall kmail'
[09:46] <d9500> yes, sorry. not running kubuntu here.
[09:46] <d9500> kde but not kubuntu
[09:47] <valgaav> debian uses still adept :)
[09:47] <bigbrovar> CptnAwesome> sure u can purge it ( am thinking of doing same kmail is such a huge fail, hope its gets improved soon cus i love its integration)
[09:47]  * CptnAwesome bites the bullet, installs kubuntu
[09:47] <bigbrovar> valgaav> yep so i heard
[09:48] <valgaav> bigbrovar:  I removed whole kde-pim along with kmail
[09:48] <CptnAwesome> damn "1086mb of extra space will be used"   !!! ???
[09:48] <valgaav> since I use thunderbird
[09:48] <d9500> CptnAwesome, yes, but be careful. some packages are dependencies of other packages, like, for example, you may see something like "libqt-something-or-other" and think "what's a libqt" and try to uninstall it....don't! it will probably ask you to remove other, potentially useful packages, since qt is the toolkit that kde is built on.
[09:48] <bigbrovar> valgaav> yeah I think i would do that I hardly use the PIM anyway.
[09:48] <CptnAwesome> yeah thats one lesson i learnt the hard way =)
[09:49] <valgaav> CptnAwesome:  I really suggest  sudo aptitude install --without-recommends synaptic
[09:49] <bigbrovar> CptnAwesome> I rather leave it if i don't know what it does :)
[09:50] <valgaav> kpackakit is not ready yet for anything then basc package managment
[09:50] <bigbrovar> hey anyone able to get dual monitor working on kubuntu karmic
[09:50] <d9500> valgaav, i agree with that. synaptic is probably the best graphical pakcage manager frontend i've seen. haven't tried kpackagekit yet though
[09:50] <CptnAwesome> for some reason my moderate spec machine runs really slow.
[09:50] <valgaav> I tried to use it
[09:51] <CptnAwesome> what does --without-recommends do?
[09:51] <valgaav> it couldn't find a packakge by  openoffice.org-kde  search
[09:51] <bigbrovar> valgaav> funny i love kpacakgekit, hated it before but it grew on me, althoug i admit it still has a long way to go, but i welcome its simple UI and integration
[09:51] <valgaav> and I call that a fail
[09:51] <bigbrovar> valgaav> i always use aptitude for serious packagement anyway
[09:51] <d9500> CptnAwesome, it installs the package and the packages it depends on, but leaves out the stuff that the distro recommends, but that isn't needed just to run the original program you wanted to install
[09:52] <jirka_> ahoj lidi
[09:52] <d9500> of course, it may be needed for optimum functionality.
[09:52] <valgaav> yeah and that's also great forinstalling Firefox and not downloading ubufox and half of gnome with it
[09:52] <CptnAwesome> that was going to be my next question
[09:52] <d9500> those packages may be needed anyway, i mean*
[09:52] <CptnAwesome> ahh i see
[09:52] <bigbrovar> valgaav> did you searched by description? by defualt packagekit search by name, which is not too accurate sometiems
[09:53] <valgaav> I think I tried  that too , not sure though it was about a month ago :)
[09:53] <CptnAwesome> does --without-recommends work with apt-get ?
[09:54] <bigbrovar> valgaav> its still a work in progress
[09:54] <bigbrovar> CptnAwesome> apt-get doesnt install recommendations by default (AFAIK)
[09:54] <CptnAwesome> ohh fair enough
[09:54] <d9500> i thought apt-get had been superseded by aptitude anyway?
[09:54] <valgaav> CptnAwesome: --no-install-recommends
[09:54] <bigbrovar> CptnAwesome> in any case u can always RTFM
[09:55] <valgaav> apt-get does install recommends by default
[09:55] <bigbrovar> d9500> on debian it has
[09:55] <CptnAwesome> bigbrovar, sorry, yeah i might have to do that =) sorry to bombard you with questions.
[09:56] <bigbrovar> valgaav> wow that is a  relatively recent development. on feisty it didnt have (stoppted using it along time ago)
[09:56] <jussio1> !rtfm | bigbrovar
[09:56] <valgaav> well I guess it is like that since jaunty
[09:57] <bigbrovar> jussio1> got that although reading the man pages sure helps
[09:57] <bigbrovar> valgaav> oh ok .. i only use apt-get from installing deps apt-get build-dep
[09:58] <jussio1> bigbrovar: yeah, understand, however we seek to make this a welcoming place where evene the newest user can get help
[09:58] <bigbrovar> jussio1> yeah makes sense and i agree with that :)
[09:58] <jussio1> !tab | bigbrovar
[09:59] <bigbrovar> jussio1: thanks
[10:00] <bigbrovar> jussio1: i wonder how come i never knew that
[10:00] <bigbrovar> anyone able to get dualmonitor working on kubuntu karmic
[10:02] <valgaav> bigbrovar:  nope but I do not have one :P afaik it should work depending on a driver
[10:04] <jussio1> bigbrovar: video card?
[10:23] <lizzzy> I really need your help. Please! I tried uninstalling lamp-server and accidently uninstalled the kubuntu-desktop i think. Now when I login all I can see is the terminal. HALP!
[10:28] <jussio1> lizzzy: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:29] <CptnAwesome> installing kubuntu-desktop from apt-get failed, it suggested i apt-get update, which fails and suggests i run apt-get update....
[10:30] <CptnAwesome> also says i have "no public key"
[10:33] <desu> CptnAwesome: ignore the error, just do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:33] <desu> *warning
[10:46] <Lareth> Hello I recently upgraded (or at least tried to) my kubuntu installation (running as a vm in vbox on windows xp) from 8.10 to 9.10.
[10:47] <Lareth> everything seemed to be working ok but now I get the following error:
[10:48] <Lareth>  /bin/sh: relocation error: /bin/sh: symbol bsearch, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[10:48] <Lareth> is there any way to save my installation? please help
[10:48] <nevyn> ouch
[10:49] <Lareth> !
[10:49] <ghostcube> Lareth: pulling an 8.10 to 9.10 without 9.04 between is hard
[10:49] <ghostcube> you checked that all repositories get opened again like before
[10:49] <ghostcube> ?
[10:49] <Lareth> actually what I did was to upgrade to what the system suggested. maybe it was 9.04
[10:49] <Lareth> I cannot remember right now..
[10:49] <nevyn> without another system to grab files from you might be SOL
[10:49] <Pconfig> hey, for some reason i can't enable desktop effects after my upgrade to karmic
[10:50] <nevyn> Lareth: have you rebooted the VM?
[10:50] <Lareth> yea
[10:50] <Pconfig> it says there's a problem with my configuration file
[10:50] <Lareth> this is when this happened
[10:50] <ghostcube> Lareth: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:50] <nevyn> it could be that the in-memory libc and the sh are outta sync
[10:50] <ghostcube> brings nothing in ?
[10:50] <Lareth> it booted to the graphical login screen and it would not logon
[10:50] <Lareth> ghostcube this is where I get this error
[10:50] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get -f install
[10:50] <Lareth> the only way I can login to my system is through the console
[10:51] <nevyn> ghostcube: I'd be supprised if apt-get runs if libc doesn't have a GLIBC_2.0 symbol
[10:51] <nevyn> Lareth: your shell works?
[10:51] <skar> hi, i upgraded from hardy to karmic and now my wifi isn't working. my card is "BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN [14e4:4311] (rev 01)". any way i can make it work?
[10:51] <Lareth> nevyn yes
[10:51] <nevyn> can you run dpkg?
[10:51] <Lareth> just by itself?
[10:52] <Lareth> if I just type dpkg it runs
[10:53] <ghostcube> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:54] <Lareth> ghostcube I just did this and I got back to the prompt without any other message. is this what I should get?
[10:54] <ghostcube> yes
[10:54] <Lareth> :)
[10:55] <ghostcube> have you tried to move the .kde folder to .kde-old
[10:55] <ghostcube> and then do a relogin
[10:55] <Lareth> nope
[10:56] <ghostcube> and apt-get isnt working for you right ?
[10:57] <Lareth> it wasn't
[10:57] <Lareth> I am waiting for the system to reboot
[10:58] <Lareth> although I get various messages saying that <process_name> terminated with status 127
[11:03] <Lareth> somehow now it works.. just by moving .kde to .kde_old..
[11:03] <skar> hi, my wifi card is "BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN [14e4:4311] (rev 01)" and it's not working with knetworkmanager. any way to make it work?
[11:03] <CptnAwesome> ok, i know ive been asking alot of questions tonight, but i have just one more.... is there a way i can 'clean' all the crap ive installed without blowing it all away and starting again?
[11:03] <Lareth> I then tried to reboot, but I had to force reset the vm because normal reboot hung
[11:04] <yofel> skar: did you install the driver from Hadware Drivers?
[11:04] <yofel> *Hardware
[11:10] <bigbrovar> jussio1:  Intel 965GM the config tool for setting up dual monitor for kde  doesnt work. and i cant use xrandr since x.org file is missing
[11:11] <Lareth> nevyn ghostcube for some reason I just checked that the upgrade was to 9.10. Everything seems to be working ok now..
[11:12] <jussio1> bigbrovar: and exactly what are you trying to acheive? big desktop? if so, please give the output of "xrandr -q" with both monitors plugged in and on (clone mode?)
[11:12] <ghostcube> Lareth: :)
[11:13] <Lareth> ghostcube linux magic... Why would the renaming of .kde folder just fix everything? I am happy that it works I just wonder why
[11:13] <ghostcube> Lareth: cause any configs maybe called wrong parameters
[11:13] <ghostcube> or any app tried do unnormal things
[11:13] <Lareth> hmmm
[11:13] <bigbrovar> jussio1: yep an expended desktop. run the xrandr parameter which is xrandr --auto --output LVDS --mode 1280x800 --left-of VGA but that doesnt work
[11:13] <ghostcube> you updated from kde 3.x to 4.x i think so
[11:14] <Lareth> no it was kde 4
[11:14] <Lareth> I had plasma desktop and all..
[11:14] <ghostcube> oh ok then 4.2.x to 4.3
[11:14] <jussio1> bigbrovar: what error does it give?
[11:14] <ghostcube> hehe is not good too
[11:14] <bigbrovar> i need to add my virtualmonitor size to Xorg.com but xorg is no more
[11:14] <Lareth> it works.. I am happy now :)
[11:14] <Lareth> many thanks
[11:14] <ghostcube> np
[11:15] <jussio1> bigbrovar: is there no xorg.conf at all?
[11:18] <bigbrovar> jussio1:  i get a cloned monitor instead
[11:18] <bigbrovar> jussio1: ugly one for that :)
[11:18] <bigbrovar> nope on karmic its missing
[11:19] <janjiss> Is there some kind of swich to something else???
[11:19] <Lareth> which are the dev packages for kde4?
[11:19] <bigbrovar> jussio1: since autodetction is now left for hal ( which i heard has now been depreciated for devicekit)
[11:20] <jussio1> bigbrovar: yeah, though Ive just added to an xorg and it still reads it, just doesnt require it.
[11:20] <BillyBob> .ti eriuqer tnseod tsuj ,ti sdaer llits ti dna grox na ot dedda tsuj evI hguoht ,haey :ravorbgib
[11:20] <jussio1> bigbrovar: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:20] <BillyBob> grox-revresx erugifnocer-gkpd odus :ravorbgib
[11:20] <jussio1> BillyBob: ?
[11:20] <BillyBob> ? :boBylliB
[11:21] <harrison> Hi, I'm having some problems getting alsa sound to work with firefox and flash. Sound was playing fine with my pci soundcard but then I wanted to change the output to the internal soundcard and it won't play
[11:21] <harrison> I think that the problem is that my pci soundcard is getting chosen over the internal despite the sound settings in 'System Settings'
[11:22] <bigbrovar> ok in anycase can i just copy an xorg.conf fine from jaunty?
[11:22] <jussio1> bigbrovar: I think so, but I couldnt be certain.
[11:22] <bigbrovar> jussio1: oh so if i set xorg it would use the setting, but it doesnt need it?
[11:22] <jussio1> bigbrovar: thats my understanding, though your mileage may vary.
[11:23] <bigbrovar> jussio1:  well i guess i can live without that. for now.
[11:23] <bigbrovar> jussio1: its not a do or die feature. i rather not stare things up for now :)
[11:23] <jussio1> bigbrovar: you can try it, but maybe you need to remove it from the cli if x fails to start.
[11:23] <bigbrovar> hmm true
[11:25] <bigbrovar> jussio1: there is a problem with my card on jaunty where the masa package limit the amount of virtual ( i cant remember the size now) hence making it impossible to use dual monitor with compositing enabled. to get round the problem i had to use a 3rd ppa. now i think that problem still exist in karmic
[11:25] <bigbrovar> jussio1: am trying to find out for sure
[11:26] <bigbrovar> jussio1: brb need to restart X
[11:26] <jussio1> bigbrovar: ouch. good luck
[11:29] <ken2610> hi, how can i recover my kwallet password if i forget it?
[11:30] <ken2610> hi, how can i recover my kwallet password if i forget it?
[11:33] <harrison> Ah great I followed the pulse-audio guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578 and somehow the problem is fixed now (sound not playing through correct card in firefox+flash)
[11:45] <skar> hi, what's the kde equivalent to hardware drivers(System>Admin>Hardware Drivers) of gnome?
[11:46] <r00t_ninja> kmenu -> applications -> system -> hardware drivers
[11:46] <r00t_ninja> make sure you have refreshed your package cache first
[11:49] <skar> r00t_ninja: thanks. in system, there's no hardware drivers. any way to run it from the cmdline?
[11:49] <r00t_ninja> you sure
[11:50] <jussio1> its definately there for me...
[11:51] <skar> there's akonadi, dolphin, knetwork manager etc. nothing starting with h.
[11:52] <skar> maybe i need to install that package? see, i installed via ubuntu cd then switched by installing the kubuntu-desktop package, as i had access to the ubuntu cd only and couldn't wait :)
[11:52] <r00t_ninja> ok
[11:52] <r00t_ninja> that migh be why
[11:53] <r00t_ninja> jockey-kde
[11:53] <r00t_ninja> look for that package
[11:54] <skar> r00t_ninja: thanks, it's running now. let's hope my wifi can be made to work as ap :)
[11:57] <skar> r00t_ninja: any idea on making a bcm4311 wifi chip work under karmic? it worked fine with hardy(under ndiswrapper) and out of the box with b43 in jaunty too. with karmic i thought it'll work as jaunty itself worked.
[11:57] <skar> but so far no such luck.
[11:57] <r00t_ninja> does that require the special firmware?
[11:58] <r00t_ninja> if it does install b43-fwcutter
[11:58] <r00t_ninja> yea im pretty sure it does
[12:01] <skar> r00t_ninja: well with jaunty i didn't install anything, just selected b43 in hard drivers menu and it worked. in karmic it shows only broadcom's sta drivers, no b43.
[12:01] <r00t_ninja> try install it
[12:01] <r00t_ninja> and then reboot
[12:01] <r00t_ninja> or try the sta drivers
[12:02] <skar> r00t_ninja: well, i'm going to try the sta now, since it's the only option left for out of the box choices
[12:02] <r00t_ninja> ok
[12:02] <r00t_ninja> if it doesnt work try
[12:02] <r00t_ninja> sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[12:04] <skar> r00t_ninja: well the sta option is greyed out, so i can't install it seems. with b43-fwcutter, it uses ndiswrapper right?
[12:04] <r00t_ninja> no
[12:04] <r00t_ninja> it just downloads the firmware
[12:04] <r00t_ninja> and unpacks it
[12:04] <skar> ok
[12:04] <r00t_ninja> its illegal to distribute the unpacked firmware in most countrys
[12:05] <r00t_ninja> you will probably need to reboot to see the effects
[12:05] <skar> it says "b43-fwcutter is already the newest version."
[12:05] <r00t_ninja> try a reboot
[12:05] <r00t_ninja> or
[12:05] <skar> r00t_ninja: version is Version: 1:012-1
[12:05] <skar> ok will reboot now
[12:05] <r00t_ninja> sudo rmod b43
[12:10] <SeicherlBoB> when using dbus-send from konsole, how can i send an argement with type a{sv}? I read this as a dict:string:variant, but variant is not a type. If i try dict:string:int32 or whatever dbus tells me, that no method with that signature a{si} was found.
[12:12] <r00t_ninja> skar: did that work?
[12:13] <skar> r00t_ninja: nope, it didn't
[12:13] <r00t_ninja> im not sure what it is then
[12:13] <r00t_ninja> and i need to go to slepp
[12:13] <r00t_ninja> and i need to go to sleep
[12:13] <r00t_ninja> make sure to ask on the forums
[12:14] <r00t_ninja> cya
[12:14] <skar> r00t_ninja: np. thanks for all the help though. will try ndiswrapper then, it used to work on hardy :)
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[12:36] <Idhan> I have a problem with kile.. I cann't save the configuration.. where exactly is the configuration to manually change it??
[12:37] <ryanakca> Idhan: My guess would be something like ~/.kde/share/config/kilerc or ~/.kde/share/config/*kile* . But that's a guess, I don't use kile myself.
[12:38] <ryanakca> Idhan: Also, by can't save the configuration, do you get an error message or does kile just forget them? Might be worth filing a bug.
[12:40] <Idhan> ryanakca: well.. some preferences are just forget other even do not take effect...
[13:03] <shadeslayer> um,i dont know why but : sudo apt-get update : isnt working on my terminal,i just came back from my uni with a proxy server and did : unset http_proxy : still no luck
[13:04] <jasabella> hi
[13:04] <shadeslayer> jasabella: hi :)
[13:04] <jasabella> waht's the default userinterface typeface in kubuntu?
[13:05] <shadeslayer> jasabella: kde 4.3.2
[13:05] <jasabella> eh?
[13:05] <jasabella> ya kde4
[13:05] <jasabella> latest one
[13:05] <shadeslayer> jasabella: nope,4.3.3 is the latest
[13:05] <jasabella> the one it draws icons and menus with
[13:05] <Pici> shadeslayer: jasabella wants to know what font the interface uses
[13:05] <jasabella> ok that then
[13:06] <subin> hi all
[13:06] <shadeslayer> Pici: ah..
[13:07] <jasabella> liberation sans? nimbus sans?
[13:07] <jasabella> deja vu sans?
[13:07] <jasabella> what's it use to draw the widgets with
[13:07] <shadeslayer> jasabella: deja vu sans
[13:07] <jasabella> ooohh ok
[13:07] <jasabella> ta
[13:10] <ubuntu_> hi! anyone tried kubuntu on eee 901?
[13:11] <shadeslayer> ah... the problem was : Acquire::http::Proxy "false";
[13:15] <shadeslayer> hey anyone use kde svn ?
[13:27] <kooolanl> sup
[13:27] <kooolanl> lol
[13:27] <shadeslayer> !lol > kooolanl
[13:29] <kooolanl> k
[13:29] <kooolanl> Sorry
[13:40] <Bauldrick> how do I open a .jar file by clicking on it? Ark always opens it, I know cmd line java -jar filename.jar
[13:55] <ubuntu10h> hi
[13:57] <bigbrovar_> ubuntu10h: hi
[13:59] <ubuntu10h> oh
[14:28] <Guest11784> I'm having trouble getting  the plasma hard disk monitor working. I am using a software raid device /dev/md0 but the plasma hard disk monitor only lists the /dev/sda and /dev/sdb partitions
[14:30] <_abbenormal> hello all
[14:30] <_abbenormal> is there a fix for flash player and firefox for amd 64 as im having one hell of a time getting it to setup or install
[14:36] <jturek> greetings Kubuntu guys
[14:36] <jturek> Anybody know of a way to put in custom keyboard shortcuts in KDE4/Karmic/Kubuntu ??
[14:36] <jturek> I would like 'alt-x' for example to launch rxvt
[14:37] <BluesKaj> _abbenormal, http://technologycrowd.com/2009/11/01/installing-64-bit-flash-player-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[14:38] <Sallin> @jturek System settings --> keyboard --> keyboard shortcuts doesn't have any options for you?
[14:38] <ireallyneedapoo> _abbenormal, how are you installing it?
[14:38] <ireallyneedapoo> _abbenormal, are you using the packaged one?
[14:39] <ireallyneedapoo> _abbernormal, you need to provide more details as to what you are doing
[14:39] <jturek> @Sallin yes, there are 'shortcuts' listed there,  but no way to do a custom one i.e.  add an addional shortcut.. at least that i know of on that screen
[14:39] <ireallyneedapoo> are you using kpackageKit for example
[14:39] <ireallyneedapoo> or are you using Synaptic
[14:39] <ireallyneedapoo> or are you using Software Center
[14:39] <ireallyneedapoo> or are you downloading it from the internet
[14:40] <ireallyneedapoo> are y
[14:40] <jturek> @Sallin nevermind,  i found something usefull.. a kde3 app called khotkeys  it actually works
[14:40] <foxy_mefisto> young frankenstein reference?
[14:41] <Sallin> :)
[14:51] <_abbenormal> yes sir im a fan of mel brooks work too funny
[14:51] <_abbenormal> sorry had to go take out the trash
[14:52] <_abbenormal> ireallyneedapoo, in trying to install it to get flash working and ive tried the repo ones but no workie
[14:52] <_abbenormal> so asking if there is a work around for it
[14:53] <BluesKaj> _abbenormal, did you see my post above ?
[14:53] <_abbenormal> i used the manager and i dont mind command line also have tried wget and a falsh script
[14:53] <_abbenormal> yes looking right now
[15:01] <_abbenormal> nope looks like im going to update to 9.10 thanks guys
[15:01] <_abbenormal> thanks BluesKaj
[15:03] <BluesKaj> _abbenormal, np, there are still some sites that are written poorly that may not work . I've been complaining to our national tv network here in Canada , the CBC , for its poor use of flash , so don't be surprised iif some sites freeze or balk
[15:03] <dima__> hi, everyone. I have a partition which is a physical volume and has logical group and volumes inside. How do I make those logical volume appear in /dev/mapper/ as devices
[15:08] <BluesKaj> dima__, are you trying to mount it ?  If so use the sudo fdisk -l to list the partition you want to see/mount
[15:14] <gnomefreak> n/win 20
[15:28] <lionschen> hello,everybody
[15:29] <HaguMe> Question: How can I change amarok 1.4 fonts in GNOME? Used qt3-qtconfig but It won't work... AND I asked in the ubuntu channel but nothing.
[15:32] <lionschen> is anyone who programme the plc programmer with linux?
[15:32] <carpii> Hagume, amarok is a kde app afaik
[15:32] <HaguMe> Yes, that's why I'm here
[15:32] <carpii> try using kcontrol
[15:32] <HaguMe> in Karmic? How?
[15:33] <lionschen> in karmic?
[15:33] <lionschen> what is it?
[15:33] <foxy_mefisto> doesn't amarok's settings have font settings?
[15:33] <HaguMe> Only for the OSD display AFAIK
[15:33] <carpii> !karmic
[15:34] <lionschen> en,i see
[15:34] <carpii> HaguMe, just run kcontrol from cmdline
[15:34] <HaguMe> I did that already
[15:34] <carpii> didnt work?
[15:34] <HaguMe> And tried many times
[15:34] <HaguMe> mut it doesn't exist
[15:34] <HaguMe> but*
[15:35] <carpii> sudo apt-get install kcontrol
[15:35] <HaguMe> Yes
[15:35] <HaguMe> I did that
[15:36] <carpii> oh ok, i dont use Karmic. Maybe they dropped kcontrol from lde 4.xz
[15:36] <carpii> kde 4.x
[15:36] <HaguMe> Yup, it seems to be that way
[15:36] <foxy_mefisto> install systemsettings then
[15:36] <HaguMe> anyway, I tried with qt3-qtconfig
[15:36] <HaguMe> but nothing either
[15:37] <HaguMe> foxy_mefisto: How can I do that?
[15:37] <foxy_mefisto> HaguMe: sudo apt-get install systemsettings
[15:37] <HaguMe> Is that a KDE package?
[15:38] <foxy_mefisto> yes
[15:38] <HaguMe> Nice
[15:38] <carpii> you could also try installing an amarok theme, some of them control the font size (not an ideal way to do it granted)
[15:38] <HaguMe> I will try right now
[15:40] <Daro> hej...I have a problem with k3b..it is not detecting my cd/dvd burner at all...then I tried brasero and it worked fine....any ideas?? I am using kubuntu 9.10
[15:43] <HaguMe> foxy_mefisto: IT WORKED!
[15:43] <HaguMe> Thanks a lot
[15:43] <foxy_mefisto> great
[15:43] <HaguMe> I was unaware at first time because I made changes as root
[15:44] <HaguMe> but when I did as a normal user, it worked after applying changes
[15:46] <HaguMe> foxy_mefisto: Well, thank you again, I will rest peacefully right now xD
[15:47] <HaguMe> bye all
[15:50] <BluesKaj> Daro, did you try to configure k3b in k3b-settings/configure/devices ?
[15:51] <Daro> BluesKaj: no I used the wizard which appeaars when you start k3b..but there was no choice of any optical devicce
[15:52] <BluesKaj> wizard ?
[15:53] <BluesKaj> Daro, in the konsole , sudo apt-get install k3b
[15:53] <Daro> BluesKaj: yeah wizard is the wrong word..sorry...the k3b setup you get when you start it the first time...or you can access diectly after the error message
[15:53] <Daro> BluesKaj: yeah that is what I did
[15:54] <BluesKaj> is there an icon for k3b in kmenu/multimedia
[15:54] <Daro> yes
[15:55] <Daro> and if I start k3b I get this error message: K3b did not find an optical writing device in your system. Thus, you will not be able to burn CDs or DVDs. However, you can still use other K3b features such as audio track extraction, audio transcoding or ISO9660 image creation.
[15:55] <Daro> and I can start k3b::setup
[15:56] <Guest97701> There are broken dependecies on your system. Please use an advanced package manage e.g. Synaptic or aptitude to resolve this situation. i have this error
[15:56] <Guest97701> what do i do
[15:56] <Guest97701> i tried the sudo apt-get install -f crap
[15:56] <Guest97701> that doesnt work
[15:56] <Daro> and in the k3b::setup no optical device is listed
[15:58] <BluesKaj> Daro, in the terminal : sudo mount /dev/scd0 -rw
[15:58] <BluesKaj> Daro, or whatever your cdrom is called in /etc/fstab
[15:59] <Daro> BluesKaj: just a second
[16:00] <anthony> hello
[16:00] <anthony> i have an issue
[16:00] <Psymon> whohoohoo
[16:01] <ireallyneedapoo> I have an issue too
[16:01] <ireallyneedapoo> she's called Natasha
[16:01] <Guest82198> There are broken dependecies on your system. Please use an advanced package manage e.g. Synaptic or aptitude to resolve this situation.
[16:01] <ireallyneedapoo> and I really do need a poo
[16:01] <Guest82198> what do i do?
[16:02] <Daro> BluesKaj: it states, the device /dev/sr0 is write protected
[16:03] <BluesKaj> Daro, yes that's what the -rw is for , it gives read write permissions
[16:03] <Daro> BluesKaj: yes but it doesn't change anythin in k3b..
[16:04] <BluesKaj> daro purge k3b and reinstall it
[16:04] <Guest82198> HEY TELL ME HOW TO FIX MY SHIT NONE OF THE ONFORMATION ON THE NET HELPS!!!!
[16:04] <Daro> BluesKaj: when I start k3b from  the shell I get this warning: QStringList Solid::Backends::Hal::HalManager::findDeviceByDeviceInterface(const Solid::DeviceInterface::Type&)  error:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown"
[16:04] <Pici> Guest82198: You need to drop the caps and lose the languge first.
[16:05] <Guest82198> well thats the only way i get attention on here
[16:05] <Guest82198> ive ben on here 2 times and asked the same questions
[16:05] <Daro> BluesKaj: I already purged k3b and it didn't cahnge anything
[16:05] <Guest82198> and thats the first response ive had
[16:05] <BluesKaj> Guest82198, open synaptic , click on edit , then fix broken packages , apply
[16:06] <BluesKaj> Daro, pastebin your /etc/fstab
[16:06] <Guest82198> where is synaptic
[16:06] <Guest82198> where is it
[16:07] <BluesKaj> Guest82198, kmenu/multimedia
[16:08] <Guest82198> its not there
[16:08] <BluesKaj> Guest82198, politeness also counts here ..we're all volunteers ..being demanding won't help you
[16:09] <Guest82198> its not there sorry?
[16:09] <Daro> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/m79638be0
[16:09] <BluesKaj> Guest82198, in the terminal, sudo apt-get update , then sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:09] <Guest82198> ok
[16:11] <Guest82198> it wouldnt upgrade
[16:12] <franz> use
[16:12] <BluesKaj> Daro, in the terminal , sudo mount /dev/scd0 -rw ,  then reboot
[16:13] <BluesKaj> Guest82198, which kubuntu ?
[16:13] <Guest82198> 9.10
[16:14] <BluesKaj> Guest82198, how did you install it ? from cd or internet upgrade
[16:14] <Daro> k..I try the reboot..thanks...if it doesn't work I come back and go on your nervs again :P thanks a lot
[16:14] <Guest82198> cd
[16:15] <BluesKaj> ok, Guest82198 , try this in the terminal : sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:16] <Guest82198> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[16:16] <ahox> Hi, I recently tried out the plasma-netbook, deinstalled it and now plasma-desktop does not automaticly start anymore. Any ideas?
[16:16] <eduardo> alguien conoce un canal de ayuda en español?
[16:16] <Guest82198> iev tried that b4 and came up with the same thing
[16:17] <Pici> !es | eduardo
[16:17] <BluesKaj> Guest82198, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[16:17] <Daro> BluesKaj: cu soon :P
[16:17] <BluesKaj> ok Daro
[16:18] <Guest82198> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of frostwire:
[16:18] <Guest82198>  frostwire depends on sun-java6-jre; however:
[16:18] <Guest82198>   Package sun-java6-jre is not installed.
[16:18] <Guest82198> dpkg: error processing frostwire (--configure):
[16:18] <Guest82198>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[16:18] <FloodBotK1> Guest82198: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:18] <Guest82198> Errors were encountered while processing:
[16:19] <BluesKaj> Guest82198, sudo apt-get remove frostwire
[16:20] <Guest82198> ok its off now run the other commands??
[16:20] <BluesKaj> that's a terrible app
[16:20] <BluesKaj> yes run the sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/loc
[16:20] <Guest82198> ok i ran it
[16:20] <BluesKaj> and ?
[16:21] <Guest82198> it worked
[16:21] <Guest82198> thank you very much
[16:21] <BluesKaj> run sudo apt-get update
[16:21] <Guest82198> sorry for the bad language  ive ben tryin 2 fix it myslf
[16:21] <BluesKaj> then, sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:22] <BluesKaj> Guest82198, frostwire is a terrible app , use ktorrent or transmission
[16:22] <Guest82198> ok. just have no clue how to use them
[16:23] <BluesKaj> !ktorrent
[16:23] <Pici> !torrent
[16:23] <Guest82198> ok the upgrade is done.
[16:23] <BluesKaj> Pici, thanks , strange that's not default
[16:24] <BluesKaj> Guest82198, read the above about torrents
[16:25] <Guest82198> ok thank you for all the help
[16:25] <Guest82198> should i restart my comp?
[16:25] <BluesKaj> you're welcome
[16:25] <BluesKaj> no need to to restart , this is linux
[16:25] <Guest82198> ok cool.
[16:26] <Guest82198> what did the upgrade do??
[16:28] <BluesKaj> Guest92828, it should have fixed some of your dependency probs
[16:28] <BluesKaj> if there were any
[16:29] <ramiia> /c
[16:44]  * BluesKaj is going for daily walk ..bb in an hr
[16:47] <Lint> is there a keyboard layout indicator in KDE?
[16:47] <Riddell> no although kvkbd ought to act as one
[16:48] <ireallyneedapoo> why do I have to enable legacy usb keyboard support in the bios to get my usb keyboard working?
[16:48] <ireallyneedapoo> or am I doing something wrong here?
[16:51] <yofel> Lint: I have a keyboard layout switcher here in kde 4.3.2 that act's as an indicator too
[16:55]  * technikk is away ( Searching for UFO`s)
[16:57]  * technikk is away ( Searching for UFO`s)
[16:59] <Pici> !away > technikk
[17:00] <technikk> sorry :)
[17:09]  * technikk is away ( Searching for UFO`s)
[17:10] <Mamarok> !away > technikk
[17:17] <jhutchins> Can I disable kwallet?
[17:20] <jhutchins> Is there a way I can actually bring up a network connection?
[17:31] <Lint> how to play mp3s in amarok?
[17:33] <Fieldy> hi, how do I (using the command line) stop a service in /etc/init.d/ from starting at boot?
[17:34] <Pici> Fieldy: sudo update-rc.d servicename remove
[17:34] <Fieldy> Pici: thanks!
[17:38] <coles> Is there any work towards a British English localisation for the Lucid Lynx Kubuntu installer?  If not, how could I help?
[17:39] <Mamarok> coles: you should get in touch with the translation team
[17:43] <zoiss> hey guys. i got a problem with my flash player (shockwave) ...when i am watching flash videos, the flash player crashes sometimes (the flash parts are just grey) when i am surfing on other firefox tabs or windows. does anyone know how to fix this?
[17:48] <OpenMaster> hello; a question
[17:49] <jhutchins> Where do I add channels to auto-join in quassel?
[17:49] <OpenMaster> the ubuntu bug with ext4 was solved?
[17:51] <OpenMaster> If install kubuntu 9.10 should I use ext4 or ext3? If I use ext4 ant the bug will be solved I'll need to reinstall Kubuntu?
[17:51] <OpenMaster> sorry for my noob beeing
[17:51] <[yksi]> does anyone here know how to get wacom features working properly (hp tx2500 running kubuntu 9.10)
[17:51] <ircleuser> hi
[17:51] <OpenMaster> *e
[17:52] <ircleuser> what is comand to change nick
[18:02] <BluesKaj> zoiss, http://technologycrowd.com/2009/11/01/installing-64-bit-flash-player-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[18:06] <zoiss> thank you very much
[18:11] <maramanu07> Ciao!
[18:11] <maramanu07> !list
[18:12] <m4ch1n3> hola
[18:12] <maramanu07> Sorry ! :-p
[18:12] <m4ch1n3> hello
[18:12] <m4ch1n3> I'm rafael
[18:13] <kyniker> hi
[18:15] <leigh_> ?
[18:15] <kyniker> how can I pipe into a command like this one: foobar -i here_should_the_pipeline_end outputfile
[18:16] <leigh_> \list
[18:18] <leigh_> \#ubuntu
[18:20] <kyniker> j
[18:25] <foxy_mefisto> this channel is a lot quieter than it used to be. does that mean there are fewer kubuntu problems? or have people switched to gnome?
[18:25] <kyniker> solve mine...
[18:25] <foxy_mefisto> kyniker: I don't understand your problem
[18:26] <foxy_mefisto> kyniker: you want the output of a command to go to a file?
[18:28] <kyniker> foxy_mefisto: no, i want to pipe from one command to another, but | won't work, because the line would look like: "foo | bar -i output_of_foo some_other_arg"
[18:29] <Vroomfondle> use xargs
[18:29] <yofel> kyniker: store it in a tmpfile?
[18:29] <Vroomfondle> (man xargs)
[18:29] <jhutchins_lt> Is there an optional wireless manager?
[18:29] <yofel> Vroomfondle: but wouldn't xargs append it after some-other-arg ?
[18:30] <Vroomfondle> yofel: good point
[18:31] <Vroomfondle> I guess one needs to do the contatenation first, then use xargs to pass the concatenated arguments to the executable
[18:31] <BluesKaj> !wicd info | jhutchins_lt
[18:32] <BluesKaj> !wicd | jhutchins_lt
[18:32] <yofel> BluesKaj: info wicd
[18:32] <jhutchins_lt> Hey BluesKaj.
[18:32] <jhutchins_lt> Can't get the wifi up, it just keeps asking for the key or password.
[18:32] <jhutchins_lt> I tried 64 and 128
[18:33] <jhutchins_lt> Let's see if it'll do wpa.
[18:33] <yofel> jhutchins_lt: had that once too, found out it was a bug in the router software, had to restart the router everytime it happened
[18:33] <kyniker> Vroomfondle: how would that look like? I'm new to shell scripting.
[18:34] <BluesKaj> jhutchins_lt, if your router is pw/key protected then you have enter it in the network manager settings
[18:35] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[18:37] <rfoney> [GuS]: what is a good irc program to use on ubuntu installable using sudo apt-get install?
[18:38] <BluesKaj> !konversation
[18:38] <rfoney> is konversation a good irc program?
[18:38] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: what else would you recommend?
[18:38] <jhutchins_lt> rfoney: An excellent one.
[18:38] <BluesKaj> !info konversation
[18:38] <rfoney> I believe the bots have taken my identity lol
[18:41] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: Um, now how do I access it?
[18:42] <BluesKaj> jhutchins_lt, i got some advice from actionparsnip to use /etc/network/interfaces as a text network manager and works nicely if you list the sernames and IPs from your network machines and the gateway router of course . i copied from the /etc/hosts.allow file and purged wicd and my network connections much faster now
[18:43] <BluesKaj> servernames
[18:43] <jhutchins_lt> I don't even see how to access wicd
[18:44] <jhutchins_lt> Shouldn't it put an icon in the system tray or something?
[18:44] <BluesKaj> is this the same jhutchins we all know ? ..doesn't seem so to me
[18:45] <jhutchins_lt> Just taking my first steps into KDE4 and back to kubuntu for the first time in a couple of years.
[18:46] <BluesKaj> I don't believe this, who are you ?
[18:50] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: Planeshift.
[18:50] <BluesKaj> Planeshift?
[18:52] <jhutchins_lt> iirc that's where I know you from.
[18:52] <jhutchins_lt> Or maybe not, maybe it was here when I was using it before.
[18:55] <liveD> i'm a dick?
[18:56] <liveD> to the grub 2?
[18:57] <Vroomfondle> you're a what?
[18:57] <maco> er...?
[18:57] <sven_> ?
[18:57] <sven_> ?
[18:57] <liveD> sorry for my english
[18:57] <bigbrovar> hi guys, I observed that when am copying huge files (like 10gb) from one dir to another on my laptop. it can make the system hang sometimes
[18:58] <liveD> i am a dick? to the grub 2?
[18:58] <BluesKaj> dick ?
[18:58] <Vroomfondle> addicted?
[18:58] <bigbrovar> am not sure what triggers it but seem plasma just freezes for a moment or 2
[18:58] <maco> liveD: dick is a naughty word in english
[18:58] <liveD> addickted? yes to the grub 2
[18:59] <liveD> maco: night world?
[18:59] <maco> liveD: bad word
[18:59]  * Vroomfondle sniffs the air
[18:59] <sven_> And after the freezes?
[19:00] <BluesKaj> !it | liveD
[19:00] <jussio1> bigbrovar: did you get your dual head working?
[19:00] <liveD> to the dick?
[19:00] <liveD> on the drugs with kubuntu kubuntu karmik coallha
[19:01]  * Vroomfondle re-sniffs and notes that the troll-scent has abated
[19:01] <dcorbin_work> I"m trying to upgrade to karmic, and I get "distrubution upgrade process exited with code 127."  It comes very quicly.  Any ideas on how to get past this?
[19:02] <BluesKaj> Vroomfondle, judging from his IP , and his english , it was best to direct the guy to the italian chat
[19:02] <foxy_mefisto> dcorbin_work: was it downloading packages? installing them? at what stage did it stop?
[19:03] <Vroomfondle> BluesKaj: indeed, but the "night world" bit seemed implausible
[19:03] <BluesKaj> dcorbin_work, what command are you using ?
[19:03] <Vroomfondle> anyway, gone now
[19:05] <BluesKaj> Vroomfondle, I suspect we also had some kid impersonating his father here ,the real jhutchins would have known about wicd etc
[19:05] <dcorbin_work> BlueEagl1: I'm using kpackageKit.
[19:05] <dcorbin_work> foxy_mefisto: IT happens moments after I start...
[19:05] <maco> BluesKaj: popey's daughter was in #ubuntu-women recently, under his nick
[19:05] <dcorbin_work> long before any download could have finished (or probabably even timedout)
[19:06] <maco> "hi. my  name  is  ___. alan  is  my daddy"
[19:06] <BluesKaj> dcorbin_work, you should be using update-manager
[19:07] <dcorbin_work> BlueEagl1: I don't appear to have update-manager on my path (or root's path).  Where should I find it. Is it command line or X?
[19:07] <BluesKaj> dcorbin_work, my nick is BluesKaj
[19:07] <dcorbin_work> BluesKaj: sorry
[19:08] <BluesKaj> dcorbin_work, in the terminal : sudo apt-get install update-manager
[19:09] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: I've been on another distro for the last two years.
[19:09] <jhutchins> It has it's own wifi manager.
[19:09] <Blizzz> where does kmail store the identities? i copied every folder and file from .kde/share/apps and config containing kmail, and kontact, and everything seems fine - but the identities
[19:09] <jhutchins_lt> No known progeny so far.
[19:10] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, , well you can't blame us for being suspicious :)
[19:10] <jhutchins_lt> Sure I can.
[19:10] <jhutchins_lt> I take it I'd have to activate a widget to get wicd to show up.
[19:11] <BluesKaj> there's a ppa repos for it
[19:11] <BluesKaj> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[19:11] <jhutchins_lt> I think my old install is hosed.  It sees the drive as hda, new grub sees it as sda.
[19:12] <BluesKaj> what does sudo fdisk -l say ?
[19:13] <foxy_mefisto> dcorbin_work: alt-F2 and enter: update-notifier-kde -u (or if you prefer commandline: sudo do-release-upgrade)
[19:14] <fede_> Hi, i'm new to ubuntu and i'm trying to learn the basics to configurating the os
[19:15] <sven__> fede_, ubuntu or kubuntu?
[19:15] <fede_> sorry kubuntu
[19:16] <fede_> The thing is that i installed ubuntu first and then i installed the kde desktop
[19:16] <sven__> kde startmenu>> computer >> systemsettings
[19:17] <fede_> Can i get rid of the gnome desktop to use only kde
[19:17] <fede_> ?
[19:18] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: It's there, but it wants to be on hda1 instad of sda1
[19:18] <sven__> sudo apt-get remove gnome-desktop?
[19:18] <maco> !purekde | fede_
[19:18] <fede_> thanks
[19:19] <foxy_mefisto> wow, that link is a little outdated
[19:19] <maco> fix it up if you know how
[19:20] <foxy_mefisto> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde there's a karmic one
[19:21] <jhutchins_lt> How do I change the password on kwallet?
[19:21] <fede_> oh... i just removed gnome with the instructions of the first link
[19:21] <bman18> why can i not see any windows move or pop up when i use remote access to get onto my ubuntu computer through m mac? does anyone else have this same problem
[19:22] <fede_> What can i do now?
[19:22] <fede_> should i follow the instructions for karmic anyway?
[19:23] <sven__> jhutchins_lt, go to the kde stard menu
[19:23] <foxy_mefisto> fede_: you could remove the karmic ubuntu packages in the 2nd link to make sure nothing was left behind
[19:23] <sven__> start kdewallet
[19:23] <sven__> than click on kdewallet
[19:24] <foxy_mefisto> fede_: and maybe install kubuntu-desktop again after that, to make sure nothing important was removed
[19:24] <fede_> ok thanks, if i remove some of the packeges that i have installed myself in the process ¿can i install them back?
[19:25] <foxy_mefisto> fede_: sure
[19:27] <gregcoit> what's the icon in my panel that's brown with a little blue diamond that says "10% - unknown state"?  there's nothing in my widget list that matches.  right clicking changes the diamond to a white circle (no other visable change) and left clicking makes it dissapear until I reboot
[19:30] <fede__> it gave me an error: the package ubuntu-desktop is not installed
[19:31] <fede__> how can i fix that?
[19:31] <maco> thats not an error
[19:31] <maco> you want it to be not-installed if youre getting rid of gnome
[19:33] <fede__> yes but how i remove the other packages?
[19:34] <vbgunz> xorg in ksysguard gets bigger and bigger.  after being up for 1 day it's memory is 366MB. Is this normal?
[19:35] <whirleystar> so i have had two probs since jaunty because i'm stubborn and won't ask but now really need them... web shortcuts don't wok from krunner and i can't get nepomuk to switch to sesame2
[19:36] <froglet> vlc is not working on either of my systems, jaunty and karmic.  It worked before I updated/reinstalled.  Any ideas on how to get it working?  Could it be missing codecs?
[19:37] <fede__> How can i access this chat in spanish language?
[19:38] <Vroomfondle> !spanish
[19:38] <Pici> fede__: /join #kubuntu-es
[19:38] <fede__> so easy i fell like an idiot, thanks
[19:39] <Vroomfondle> fede__: :)
[19:42] <fede__> The spanish chat is almost empty
[19:42] <Pici> fede__: Try #ubuntu-es then
[19:42] <fede__> thanks
[19:49] <whirleystar> nepomuk-backend-sesame is installed though
[19:50] <scream> абвгдеёжзиклмнопрст
[19:51] <Pici> !ru | scream
[19:52] <scream> #ubuntu-ru
[20:24] <rafael> :p
[20:26] <wavis_> I'm on an orignal intel iMac and I just put the computer to sleep and was unable to wake it up again. pressing the power button made something happen; the pulsing LED turned off and the hard drive or fan started whirring, but that continued for a while without waking up the screen and I had to turn it off. is this a problem anyone knows about for which there is an easy fix, or should I file a bug report?
[20:27] <rafael> please bug report
[20:28] <wavis_> ok
[20:28] <wavis_> hum... where at?
[20:29] <Mamarok> !bugs | wavis_
[20:30] <rafael> I think it is a kernel bug
[20:30] <rafael> wavis_: use "ubuntu-bug linux" command to report
[20:30] <wavis_> ok
[20:42] <TheGentleman> Hello. I read somewhere that Xorg.conf is no longer used in Karmic (it is there on my fresh install, but nearly empty). So where do I set parameters to use an external monitor with my laptop?
[20:46] <TheGentleman> anyone?
[20:46] <Pici> TheGentleman: If xorg.conf contains settings, then xorg will honor them.
[20:48] <TheGentleman> well, now I should imagine what to put in Xorg.conf.....
[20:48] <TheGentleman> I forgot to keep a copy from my previous install (which was based on KDE 3.5)
[20:48] <jhutchins_lt> How can I determine which driver xorg's using?  It seems to probe four different ones in the log.
[20:48] <BluesKaj> TheGentleman, inthe terminal , sudo your-video-card -maker-xconfig for example sudo nvidia-config , will generate an editable xorg.conf file
[20:49] <BluesKaj> oops sudo nvidia-xconfig
[20:49] <TheGentleman> ok, thanks, As a matter of fact i have an nvidia card
[20:50] <TheGentleman> also installed nvidia propietery drivers
[20:50] <BluesKaj> there are no guarantees that it'll fix something broken tho
[20:51] <TheGentleman> but nvidia settings cannot save a configuration into Xorg.conf: it says can't parse xorg.conf
[20:51] <TheGentleman> even opening nvidia setting with sudo
[20:52] <TheGentleman> Good old KDE 3.5......   not many eyecandies... but it worked!
[20:53] <jhutchins_lt> TheGentleman: Try creating the xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 - I notice I don't have one.
[20:54] <jhutchins_lt> A typical "didn't get the memo" bug.
[20:54] <jhutchins_lt> TheGentleman: Just touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:54] <TheGentleman> no, the real bug is this new thing.  it worked out of the box on kubuntu 8.04
[20:55] <TheGentleman> this is a regression!
[20:55] <jhutchins_lt> 8..04 had a default xorg.conf.
[20:56] <jhutchins_lt> My guess is that the nvidia configurator doesn't expect to have to create the file.
[20:56] <TheGentleman> in 8.04 it was as simple as connecting the VGA cable into the laptop and it worked fine.
[20:57] <jhutchins_lt> TheGentleman: I believe we have a new version of xorg.
[20:57] <dima__> всем привет
[20:57] <TheGentleman> it may be new but it works less!
[20:57] <TheGentleman> this is false progress
[20:58] <TheGentleman> and to have the possibility of rotating the icons ...   this is a silly world
[21:00] <jhutchins_lt> I
[21:00] <jhutchins_lt> 'm surprised there isn't a configuration tool for it.
[21:00] <TheGentleman> I agree
[21:01] <TheGentleman> anyone knows where to gather information on this issue?  May be asking in #KDE ?
[21:01] <BluesKaj> TheGentleman, have you checked kmenu/system/hardware drivers
[21:01] <drostie> So, um, quick question: if my toolbars aren't transparent anymore, what's the quickest route to getting them transparent again? Is there some setting that's likely to toggle it off and on?
[21:02] <drostie> "toolbars" in this case meaning "kde panels".
[21:02] <TheGentleman> yes BluesKaj and i installed nvidia drivers from there
[21:03] <Klaids> #drupal-support
[21:04] <BluesKaj> TheGentleman,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure  -phigh xserver-xorg
[21:05] <kaitsu> Moi
[21:05] <TheGentleman> BluesKaj, i have a nvidia settings configurator, but it does nothing. if I select to use my external monitor from there it requires to save the configuration on Xorg.conf. hitting save to xorg.conf returns "Cannot parse Xorg.conf"
[21:06] <jhutchins_lt> What is akonadi?
[21:06] <jhutchins_lt> TheGentleman: I made a suggestion of how you might fix it.
[21:06] <jhutchins_lt> It cannot parse a file that doesn't exist.  Create the file.
[21:07] <BluesKaj> jhutchins_lt, I think he did
[21:07] <drostie> Okay, I managed to solve my problem by hitting random things in System Settings. :D
[21:07] <TheGentleman> i am doing that jhutchins ... let mem chck the results
[21:08] <liveD> it was from the kmail?
[21:09] <kaitsu> Löytyykö mistään Qt Creator:lle manua suomeksi
[21:09] <liveD> suomi
[21:09] <BluesKaj> !akonadi | jhutchins_lt
[21:09] <liveD> !koffice
[21:09] <Pici> !fi | kaitsu
[21:10] <kaitsu> OK
[21:10] <TheGentleman> jhutchins,  nothing happens
[21:10] <BluesKaj> TheGentleman, reboot
[21:10] <TheGentleman> do i have to restrt x?
[21:10] <liveD> at the rave of the koffice 2.1?
[21:10] <TheGentleman> reboot or restert X'
[21:10] <TheGentleman> restart*
[21:11] <BluesKaj> depends did you stop X ?
[21:11] <TheGentleman> reboot sounds much like windows.....   sigh!
[21:11] <ubuntu_> ...
[21:12] <TheGentleman> going to stop and restart
[21:12] <BluesKaj> TheGentleman, drop to a tty , stop X , sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop , then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[21:13] <BluesKaj> then crtl+alt+F7 to get back
[21:13] <ubuntu_> Hi, someone knows another excellent network-manager? I do not really like the standard in Kubuntu Karmic ...
[21:13] <ubuntu_> I also tried wicd so far
[21:13] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[21:13] <liveD> killing in the name of kde?
[21:14] <ubuntu_> Maybe something except wicd? I tried it and the translation was just bad (english is not my mothertongue)
[21:14] <SunlessHalo> yo folks
[21:14] <liveD> mother father yo yo!
[21:14] <jhutchins_lt> I think we will turn off effects for now.
[21:14] <jhutchins_lt> Can't get the system to give me full backlight on battery.
[21:15] <jhutchins_lt> Which would suck if it were sunny.
[21:15] <liveD> danny was aaron seigo's concubine of krunner?
[21:15] <markus__> hy everybody
[21:16]  * SunlessHalo is experiencing a comical issue with KDE4.3 panels :D ... I have created a tiny side panel with launcher icons and kickoff applets sorted via 3 built-in separator... and, the panel is mixing these icons and separators arbitrarily :D
[21:16] <markus__> how can I start the obex server? I can't klick on it in the tray
[21:16] <liveD> hi markus__
[21:17] <BluesKaj> ubuntu_,set your langauge to german and join #kubuntu-de or #ubuntu-de
[21:18] <jhutchins_lt> Weather Report applet doesn't appear to have icons.
[21:19] <liveD> who? obama?
[21:21] <jhutchins_lt> Well, at least amarok can play my streams.
[21:26] <TheGentleman> BluesKaj, I went into tty4, but there it keeps repeting me this message every few seconds:  ath5 phy0: noise floor calibration timeout (2414 MHz)
[21:26] <TheGentleman>  i do not have any idea what it means
[21:27] <TheGentleman> but it sounds very bad.........
[21:28] <BluesKaj> TheGentleman, try tty1
[21:29] <BluesKaj> TheGentleman, that looks like your wifi essid broadcasting
[21:29] <TheGentleman> BluesKaj,  same message there, but it also says 19 packages can be updated
[21:30] <TheGentleman> ok i switched it off, going to try again
[21:30] <BluesKaj> then sudo apt-get update
[21:31] <jhutchins_lt> How do I import a playlist to amarok?
[21:47] <TheGentleman> BluesKaj, ok, now i could choose my external screen from nvdia-settings, and it works. But if i try to save this new configuration it says : Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!
[21:47] <josh__> Hello?
[21:50] <rork> hi
[21:50] <josh__> How is everyone?
[21:51] <nightwlkr> hellow all
[21:51] <nightwlkr> i just switched screens and having a resolution problem, can any1 help me out?
[21:51] <josh__> Uh, what sort of graphics card do you use?
[21:52] <nightwlkr> nvidia geforce
[21:52] <MetroidMaster> Well, you could install the Linux Drivers for it
[21:52] <nightwlkr> it's activated and all was working fine on my wide screen lcd
[21:53] <nightwlkr> i switched to my crt screen and now max resolution is 640x480
[21:53] <MetroidMaster> Oh
[21:53] <nightwlkr> when i go to nvidia x server settings
[21:53] <Nowaker> hello
[21:54] <nightwlkr> screen is crt-0 on screen-0 GPU-0
[21:54] <TheGentleman> MetroidMaster, are the Linux Drivers for nvidia stable and effective for 3D  (asking seriously, I know little about graphics and drivers)
[21:54] <MetroidMaster> Yeah, they work
[21:54] <nightwlkr> sorry crt-0 (crt-0 GPU-0)
[21:54] <Nowaker> I need some help, recently there have been changes in X-related packages and it made my DRI not work. (intel, q35)
[21:54] <Nowaker> do you know how to get a list of packages that were updated in last 7 days?
[21:54] <Nowaker> I want to roll back the X-related packages to older version but I need the names.
[21:55] <MetroidMaster> You're using Ubuntu 9.10 right?
[21:55] <Nowaker> yeah
[21:55] <MetroidMaster> Check the Software Center
[21:55] <MetroidMaster> They're bound to have the right nVidia drivers somewhere
[21:55] <TheGentleman> everything about X seems to be a bit messy
[21:56] <MetroidMaster> Put it this way, I'm new to Linux, but I was able to get Ubuntu to work
[21:57] <TheGentleman> that may be an explanation.  I'm on linux since years and i learned how to set my parameters.... for kubuntu 8.04.... I'm lost on this new release
[21:57] <TheGentleman> nothing is like it used to be
[21:57] <nightwlkr> yes it got so complicated
[21:58] <MetroidMaster> I think everything programwise can be found in the Software Center
[21:58] <nightwlkr> i've used 7.04 b4 was way too easy back then to convert from windows for me
[21:58] <TheGentleman> my guess is that they brought 9.10 out too early, without enough beta testing
[21:59] <TheGentleman> or may be it is KDE's fault
[21:59] <nightwlkr> well kde4 actually made the mess i guess :P
[21:59] <MetroidMaster> Just poke around the Software Center, under Applications. I think the drivers are in "Software" or something like that
[21:59] <nightwlkr> i was happy with kde3..if i could get that back i'd b really happy :)
[21:59] <TheGentleman> yeah, you are right
[22:00] <sourcemaker> plasma-desktop is not starting on kde startup...
[22:00] <TheGentleman> nightwlkr, my same thoughts!!!!!!!
[22:01] <TheGentleman> all this mess in order to have icons that can be rotated..... what a waste of time and resources
[22:01] <nightwlkr> TheGentleman: i think alot of ppl would agree ... if u take into consideration the stability
[22:01] <MetroidMaster> Shoot, I think I'm gonna go totally Linux from now on. My computer doesn't like Windows 7
[22:01] <TheGentleman> good to hear MetroidMaster ! :)
[22:01] <nightwlkr> MetroidMaster:  welcome to the club..both my computers hate windows now :P
[22:02] <Erthe> I've been having a strange problem with Krunner in Kubuntu for the last few months, my efforts to find a solution have exceeded my tolerance.  Krunner, when I try to use a web shortcut (ie., gg:search_term), loads Konqueror and displays a copy of the Google result page from /var/tmp/kdecache-<user>/krun/1234.0.search
[22:02] <nightwlkr> i still need to fix this crt resolution problem getting me angry :P everything's just too big :(
[22:03] <bbigras> is it normal that I need to do F5 in the "open file" dialog in ktorrent to see new files when I download a new one?
[22:03] <Erthe> Instead of the full Google URL
[22:03] <MetroidMaster> I dunno
[22:03] <Erthe> This is especially frustrating with relative links  :D
[22:03] <Erthe> Has anyone encountered this with Krunner?
[22:04] <nightwlkr> brb have to try fixing this
[22:04] <MetroidMaster> Krunner is an Internet Browser, correct?
[22:04] <Erthe> No.
[22:04] <MetroidMaster> E-mail program?
[22:04] <Erthe> If you press Alt-F2, the dialogue you see is Krunner
[22:05] <Erthe> (In KDE)
[22:05] <MetroidMaster> Oh
[22:05] <MetroidMaster> I honestly have no clue
[22:05] <Erthe> No worries, very few people can even reproduce this, I'm just not sure where to go to find a solution
[22:05] <TheGentleman> Where can I see how my system calls the two screens connected ?  (laptop with external LCD connected)
[22:06] <nightwlkr> shouldn't that b in system settings display TheGentleman?
[22:07] <TheGentleman> there must be a command to gather this info
[22:07] <mathias> ???
[22:08] <Erthe> ?!? ?
[22:08] <TheGentleman> yes nightwlkr, and that's why I am asking: it call my external LCD "CRT0"
[22:08] <TheGentleman>  but an LCD screen is NOT a Catode Ray Tube
[22:09] <TheGentleman> so I wondered if it was a poor wording in nvidia settings
[22:12] <nightwlkr> i guess the best way to get my display problem fixed is to actually change the screen back so i can get some job done
[22:12] <MetroidMaster> Probably
[22:12] <nightwlkr> this is the only annoying part in linux
[22:13] <MetroidMaster> Ugh, my wireless card is so slow...the download for OpenArena is only at 36%
[22:13] <TheGentleman> nightwlkr, i saw that in nvidia settings.  System sstting display lists only my default internal display (though i'm presently watching my external one)
[22:13] <TheGentleman> That's why I call this a mess!
[22:13] <nightwlkr> getting configuration done like drivers etc...
[22:14] <nightwlkr> TheGentleman: ya i noticed that was the issue
[22:14] <nightwlkr> cause i changed to another lcd screen previously it adjusted resolutions normally
[22:15] <nightwlkr> i have another pc with an ati card on it i put to this crt screen everything is adjusted normally and on my wide screen again the same... it's nvidia that's the messy part i guess
[22:15] <TheGentleman> yeah... I always have the wrong cards....  graphics, audio, wifi....  LOL
[22:16] <nightwlkr> u should've seen my first day with the network manager :P
[22:17] <nightwlkr> i switched 3 boards 5 different network cards they all didn't work..some1 here advised me to use wicd instead of network manager and all is working fine even on my built in card
[22:17] <MetroidMaster> I tried to get my D-link card to work, and it wouldn't
[22:17] <luis_> hello guys helpme pls after an updating i cant hear any sound with my headphones
[22:17] <MetroidMaster> I tried ndis-wrapper, and couldn't figure that out
[22:17] <TheGentleman> yes, networkmanager is rather poor with wifi cards
[22:17] <nightwlkr> well MetroidMaster try this out maybe u can get it work
[22:18] <luis_> yes is better wicd
[22:18] <luis_> lot better
[22:18] <TheGentleman>  i have another computer (for my daughter) and I had to use wicd on that one
[22:18] <nightwlkr> if u go to  a terminal and ifconfig shows u the d-link card then ur problem is the network manager..install wicd
[22:18] <TheGentleman> and on my wife's too
[22:18] <luis_> it also gives you a very helpful guide on how to install it
[22:18] <MetroidMaster> wicd?
[22:19] <nightwlkr> luis actually no guide is needed there .. sudo apt-get install wicd does the whole job
[22:19] <nightwlkr> yes
[22:19] <luis_> not in my case
[22:19] <rosco_y> what is a user manager gui I can install for kubuntu?
[22:19] <luis_> i had to follow the steps to install it
[22:19] <luis_> its easy
[22:19] <sourcemaker> mysql-server is not starting on system startup... are there upstart problems?
[22:19] <MetroidMaster> I can't do it now, because Open Arena is downloading
[22:20] <luis_> then wait
[22:20] <luis_> hehehehehe
[22:20] <MetroidMaster> I take it I can only have one install going at a time?
[22:20] <luis_> once it finish do it
[22:20] <rosco_y> sourcemaker: you might ask in #mysql
[22:20] <sourcemaker> ok
[22:20] <luis_> nop
[22:20] <nightwlkr> MetroidMaster: wicd has way better support for cards then the default network manager
[22:20] <luis_> yu can install as much software as u like at once
[22:20] <luis_> right
[22:20] <luis_> i agree
[22:20] <MetroidMaster> ok
[22:20] <luis_> way better
[22:21] <MetroidMaster> Cuz the card I'm using now sucks
[22:21] <rosco_y> does anyone know where the user manager gui is in kubuntu 9.04?
[22:21] <nightwlkr> luis no that's not true
[22:21] <luis_> it gives no problems at all
[22:21] <MetroidMaster> Wait, does it support the D-Link DWA-130?
[22:21] <luis_> i do think so
[22:21] <nightwlkr> aplication manager can run only 1 instance of installation
[22:21] <MetroidMaster> Apparently that includes installations through the terminal
[22:21] <luis_> its really easy
[22:22] <nightwlkr> MetroidMaster:  if u'r going to wireless cards specially usb u'r gonna go through some issues during installation..i suggest to check on google for previously posted forums
[22:22] <luis_> right
[22:22] <MetroidMaster> mmkay
[22:22] <luis_> hes right
[22:23] <nightwlkr> MetroidMaster: yes..ur graphical manager is actually using the terminal in the background..so logically 1 install at a time
[22:23] <MetroidMaster> Well, I'll try it, and if it doesn't work, I'll just use the old card
[22:23] <MetroidMaster> I think I'll cancel the OpenArena download, and work on the other card
[22:23] <nightwlkr> u won't lose a thing.. wicd is way easier to use..so ur old card will work way better :P
[22:23] <luis_> yeap
[22:23] <luis_> :P
[22:24] <MetroidMaster> Cool
[22:24] <MetroidMaster> Well, it's going
[22:25] <nightwlkr> i better get some work done ..got to reconfigure a router then waking up at 7 for work eukh!!
[22:25] <nightwlkr> i'll b back in a while :P
[22:25] <MetroidMaster> Hey, I get up at 6 to get ready for school
[22:25] <nightwlkr> MetroidMaster: school is way better than work..take my advice get education :P
[22:26] <harleypig> I've used update-alternatives --config x-www-browser to select firefox as the default browser (and the Preferences->Advanced->General->Check Now says FF is the default browser) but when clicking on a link in konsole konq is brought up.  How do I make firefox the default browser for konsole links?
[22:26] <luis_> is there someone here that can help me out with my sound the sound is ok but for some reason after last updating i just can hear anything with my headphones how can i fix this help pls
[22:31] <EagleScreen> harleypig: have you set Firefox as default web browser in KDE systemsettings?
[22:33] <luis_> anyone pls?
[22:33] <harleypig> EagleScreen: umm .... I don't think so.  So, I have to set update-alternatives, hit the check now button *and* use system settings?
[22:34] <EagleScreen> yes, harleypig, set it as default in KDE systemsettings -> Default applications
[22:35] <harleypig> EagleScreen: yeah, that did it.  Thx.
[22:35] <harleypig> Anyplace else I need to set it (to avoid future problems)?
[22:35] <EagleScreen> I dont think so
[22:36] <luis_>  is there someone here that can help me out with my sound the sound is ok but for some reason after last updating i just can hear anything with my headphones how can i fix this help pls
[22:36] <rosco_y> I've just started using kubuntu 9.10, and I can't find System->Administration in the menus, can anyone help me with this problem?
[22:37] <harleypig> EagleScreen: Hmmm ... I didn't know about these default app settings ... is there any way to make gvim the default text editor?
[22:37] <harleypig> and gmail the default email client?
[22:37] <EagleScreen> kmail is fully compatible with GMail
[22:38] <jhutchins_lt> Is there a colored icon available for konversation?
[22:38] <nightwlkr> or u can try thunderbird
[22:38] <EagleScreen> and just richt click on a text file, properties, and set another text editor to open the file by default
[22:38] <harleypig> I don't want to download email to my computer, I want a mailto link to open firefox and gmail's compose window (if possible)
[22:38] <rosco_y> jhutchins_lt: you don't like the black icon?
[22:38] <jhutchins_lt> No, I don't.  Looks too much like a konsole at a quick glance.
[22:39] <EagleScreen> harleypig: take a look to kgmailnotifier package
[22:39] <rosco_y> Where did my old System->Administratin program group disappear to?
[22:39] <harleypig> EagleScreen: ok, thx
[22:39] <EagleScreen> rosco_y: Systemsettings -> Advanced tab
[22:40] <luis_>  is there someone here that can help me out with my sound the sound is ok but for some reason after last updating i just can hear anything with my headphones how can i fix this help pls
[22:40] <EagleScreen> luis_: check Systemsettings -> Multimedia
[22:40] <luis_> i did
[22:40] <luis_> cant hear anything with headphones
[22:41] <EagleScreen> you only hear by eartphones?
[22:41] <luis_> i actually use them a lot so i wont interrupt others
[22:41] <luis_> i only hear without the headphones
[22:41] <EagleScreen> your headphonos doesn't wotk
[22:41] <nightwlkr> luis_: how can u hear without headphones?
[22:41] <luis_> they do
[22:41] <nightwlkr> not on same output?
[22:42] <luis_> no
[22:42] <luis_> look
[22:42] <rosco_y> EagleScreen: Mission Accomplished---Thank you!
[22:42] <EagleScreen> have you check headphones output volume and mute in Kmix?
[22:42] <rosco_y> bye freinds and neighbors
[22:42] <luis_> if i unplugg my headphones i hear whatever i want, like videso from youtube or musis
[22:42] <EagleScreen> yu're welcome rosco_y
[22:43] <luis_> but if i plugin headphones they wont work
[22:43] <luis_> this happened after last updating
[22:43] <nightwlkr> ok when u unplug ur sound comes out from where?
[22:43] <EagleScreen> that has been happening always for me
[22:43] <luis_> right
[22:43] <nightwlkr> internal speakers?
[22:43] <luis_> correct
[22:44] <EagleScreen> internal speakers are disabled when i plug my headphones since ever
[22:44] <nightwlkr> luis can u go to ur mixer
[22:44] <nightwlkr> ?
[22:44] <luis_> yes
[22:44] <luis_> i am in there already
[22:45] <nightwlkr> settings
[22:45] <aeonoris> Is there a good partition manager on KDE that has a GUI?
[22:45] <nightwlkr> configure channels
[22:45] <luis_> ok
[22:45] <nightwlkr> is there anything there like rear green output or rear output?
[22:46] <luis_> no
[22:46] <nightwlkr> well there should b something there that's muted
[22:47] <vitamin-carrot> is it just me or did a whole bunch of updates pop up after the latest kernal headers?
[22:47] <luis_> the ones that i have are
[22:47] <nightwlkr> that's the only reason i can think of
[22:47] <luis_> master, master mono, headphone and pcm
[22:47] <xant> hello
[22:47] <xant> Kubuntu makes Windows and Mac os X obsolete
[22:47] <luis_> i did actually always have selected pcm as master channel
[22:47] <nightwlkr> luis if u unplug ur earphone and plug it back does it give u a message that something is plugged ?
[22:48] <luis_> and i also have headphone switch set it on
[22:48] <xant> join #django
[22:48] <luis_> it was working
[22:48] <luis_> but las nite i had this update request from kubuntu and then headphones stop working
[22:48] <luis_> mo
[22:48] <luis_> no it doesnt give me any notification at all
[22:49] <nightwlkr> it used to b4 no?
[22:49] <jhutchins_lt> Are there any tools for working with pulseaudio and determining if this laptop has a microphone?
[22:49] <luis_> pardon me?
[22:50] <nightwlkr> luis_:  b4 the update..when u plugged the earphones was it giving u new device connected etc?
[22:50] <luis_> no it was just working fine  it never give me any notification at all by pluging in or unplugin
[22:51] <luis_> it is seted up to autodetec
[22:51] <nightwlkr> then the only reason would b something muted in ur mixer
[22:51] <nightwlkr> try adding everything in channels 1 by 1 to check which makes a difference
[22:51] <sid> hi
[22:51] <luis_> if plug i hear throug headphones if unplug i hear throug internal speakers
[22:52] <luis_> that last one still wont make headphones work
[22:52] <nightwlkr> yes luis i understand..only reason that i could think of is something in ur mixer muted
[22:53] <nightwlkr> luis_: if it was driver issue internal speakers and ur output plug use the same device
[22:53] <nightwlkr> both wouldn't work
[22:53] <luis_> so
[22:53] <nightwlkr> so add everyhting in ur mixer channels and try removing mute or adjusting volume if minimum
[22:54] <nightwlkr> when u find which is doing that u can remove all the rest if not needed
[22:54] <luis_> ok
[22:54] <luis_> tellme somehing
[22:55] <luis_> is there anyway to find out trough console if headphones are ok or if they are broke?
[22:55] <nightwlkr> that i don't know
[22:55] <Erthe> You cannot detect if a headphone device is broken.
[22:55] <luis_> ok
[22:55] <Erthe> Have you tried the headphones in another device?
[22:55] <nightwlkr> fastest way is to remove from pc plug to a tv or stereo :P
[22:55] <luis_> txs a lot guys
[22:55] <luis_> right
[22:56] <luis_> lets try that out
[22:56] <luis_> hehehehe
[22:56] <luis_> to start how stupid i become sometimes sorry
[22:56] <Erthe> It's OK luis, we all have our moments  :D
[22:56] <nightwlkr> luis_:  in such cases always eliminate doubts starting by simple stuff
[22:57] <cjae> how do you make widgets stick on the plasma dashboard? when I close it the widget ends up on my desktop
[22:57] <nightwlkr> cause i've seen things on computer that makes no sense in the electronics world :P
[22:57] <Erthe> Who could I discuss an issue I'm having, even after updating KDE several times, with a KDE program in Kubuntu?
[22:57] <Erthe> (Or where can I log a bug)
[22:57] <rerx_> Hi guys! Has anybody else tried the version of firefox that comes with the kde integration enhancements from opensuse? I found this ppa https://launchpad.net/~debfx/+archive/firefox-kde but sadly I don't see any difference...
[22:57] <jhutchins_lt> !bugs
[22:58] <Erthe> Excellent.
[22:58] <Erthe> Thanks.
[22:58] <jhutchins_lt> Quite welcome.
[22:59] <nightwlkr> i'll b back
[23:00] <luis_> just found out with my cell phone
[23:00] <luis_> fucking headphones are broke
[23:01] <luis_> god
[23:01] <luis_> and they were really expensive
[23:01] <luis_> not even a year of use
[23:01] <jhutchins_lt> luis_: Sympathies.  Tear 'em apart and see what's wrong.
[23:01] <luis_> u think'
[23:02] <luis_> i am so upset i want to kick those bastards
[23:04] <jhutchins_lt> Which bastards would that be?
[23:04] <luis_> headphones
[23:04] <jhutchins_lt> Could it be your cellphone is a mono jack?
[23:04] <jhutchins_lt> Sometimes those short out on stereo plugs.
[23:04] <luis_> no
[23:05] <xant> Great job, KDE team
[23:05] <luis_> i use my headphones on my pc to hear music
[23:05] <jhutchins_lt> I have headsets I could try on this laptop, but they're all two conductor headphone/mic's.
[23:05] <luis_> thats the type i have
[23:05] <luis_> headphones whit mic integrated
[23:05] <luis_> now they are death
[23:06] <Erthe> Umm, I have a problem with the bug reporting system.
[23:06] <Erthe> Help?
[23:06] <Erthe> The bug I'm trying to log can't be filed because of the bug I'm trying to log  :D
[23:07] <Qu4Z> luis_: That was *almost* a haiku
[23:08] <Erthe> Err..
[23:09] <Erthe> My issue with Krunner is preventing me from filing a bug against it.
[23:10] <jhutchins_lt> Erthe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing bugs at Launchpad.net
[23:11] <trooperx> why every restart my panel ( the start menu and all ) change direction .
[23:11] <trooperx> right to left or left to right
[23:16] <vitamin-carrot> whats a good webcam app for kubuntu
[23:17] <Qu4Z> vitamin-carrot: I think kopete supports webcams?
[23:19] <vitamin-carrot> for vid recording and such?
[23:20] <vitamin-carrot> i have a logitech pro 9000
[23:20] <vitamin-carrot> so linux loves it
[23:21] <vitamin-carrot> just want to be able to record with my webcam and such
[23:22] <vitamin-carrot> ill see whats on getdeb
[23:26] <jhutchins_lt> How do I determine what video driver I'm using?  xorg log shows four different ones.
[23:29] <vitamin-carrot> i dot like the latest getdeb website
[23:29] <vitamin-carrot> *dont
[23:39] <befree> Hi all ! nice DE KDE
[23:41] <galvao> greetings. sorry to ask this here (kinda OT), but let's say I have a bunch of subdirs with a specific name and they are recursively located into other subdirs... How can I rm -rf just these named subdirs? Can't remember now... Tried rm -rf ./*|grep foo but it's not the right command :(
[23:44] <EagleScreen> galvao: is it possible to know the name?
[23:44] <jhutchins_lt> galvao: find ~foo/ -name "*bar*" -exec rm -rf {} \;
[23:44] <galvao> EagleScreen: Yes, I know the exact name
[23:44] <galvao> I've used "foo" as an example
[23:44] <Qu4Z> I agree with jhutchins_lt
[23:46] <galvao> EagleScreen: Ah, perfect! you're a life saver
[23:46] <jhutchins_lt> galvao: Except my example is inconsistant with yours, reverse foo and bar.
[23:46] <galvao> Yeah, I've noticed
[23:46] <galvao> Thank you very much
[23:46] <EagleScreen> me? lol
[23:46] <galvao> :)
[23:55] <kavurt> menu taskbar in okular disappeared. how can I bring it back?