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chrisccoulsonhello robert_ancell - i notice you're still assigned to bug 429322. do you want me to take this one, or do you think you'll find some time to look at it this week?00:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 429322 in seahorse-plugins "seahorse-agent assert failure: ERROR:iop-profiles.c:606:IOP_generate_profiles: assertion failed: (obj && (obj->profile_list == NULL) && obj->orb)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42932200:47
chrisccoulsongnome bug 579738 has a description of the issue00:47
ubottuGnome bug 579738 in Agent "seahorse-agent leaves behind its socket dir" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57973800:47
robert_ancellchrisccoulson, if you know a fix go ahead.  I haven't been able to access the bug, LP seems to have got confused.  I'll look at it today.01:02
chrisccoulsonrobert_ancell - you might need to disable edge redirection to view the bug01:02
chrisccoulsoni find that it times out earlier, and you end up being blocked out of bugs with lots of comments01:02
robert_ancellchrisccoulson, thanks, that worked01:04
chrisccoulsonyeah, i'm not sure why edge times out earlier01:05
robert_ancellchrisccoulson, how did you have seahorse-agent installed but not running in you session?01:32
chrisccoulsonrobert_ancell - it's running in my session01:33
robert_ancellso when you use xtrace how did you get it to run a second time?01:33
chrisccoulsoni killed the first instance, and cleared GPG_AGENT_INFO from my environment01:34
chrisccoulsona second instance should run ok then01:34
robert_ancellchrisccoulson, ah, the env variable is what I needed, thanks01:35
chrisccoulsonyeah, that confused me for a little while01:35
chrisccoulsoni wasn't sure at first how it decided there was a second instance running01:35
robert_ancellchrisccoulson, hmm, I don't get an apport crash; I run xtrace, then seahose-agent then Ctrl+C xtrace but nothing seems to happen01:40
chrisccoulsonthat's strange - it should crash01:41
chrisccoulsonit does exit though doesn't it?01:41
robert_ancellyeah, ps shows it was there and now isnt01:42
chrisccoulsonthat's odd. and apport is still enabled on your machine?01:43
robert_ancellI think so01:45
robert_ancellwhere is the enable flag?01:46
chrisccoulsonit's in /etc/default/apport01:48
chrisccoulsonit should be disabled now, unless you re-enabled it again01:48
robert_ancellyes it is, re-enabled.01:49
robert_ancellthis bug is interesting as it doesn't seem to have any side-effects and we're only fixing it to shut apport up01:50
chrisccoulsonyeah, that seems to be the case01:50
chrisccoulsonbut it seems that a lot of users still have apport enabled01:50
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robert_ancellchrisccoulson, it doesn't want to reproduce for me.  If it does for you could you try the package in https://launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/+archive/ppa/+packages and see if that fixes it?02:30
chrisccoulsonrobert_ancell - mind if i try it tomorrow?02:31
chrisccoulsoni'm going to get some sleep in a bit :)02:31
robert_ancellchrisccoulson, sure np! sleep is good :)02:31
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pittiGood morning06:57
didrocksgood morning pitti07:11
faganMorning08:03
baptistemmhello08:34
huatsmorning08:34
* bryce waves08:36
baptistemmpitti, hello, are you the one who used to upload fontconfig package?08:47
pittibaptistemm: no, I have no idea at all about fontconfig08:48
baptistemmokay08:49
baptistemmkarmic ships 2.6.0 where 2.7.3 is shipped in Fedora, and apparently it brings memory reduction, I looked at debian patches this week-end, and updated them08:50
baptistemmperhaps someone whit more knowledge than me could look at this for lucid08:50
pittiArneGoetje: I think that would fall into your competency area? :-) ^08:51
baptistemmI need to reinstall standard karmic version to see the real benefits between the 2 versions08:51
baptistemmthanks pitti08:52
baptistemmpitti, does Germany celebrates the fall of the Wall as much as France does?08:52
pittibaptistemm: I don't know how much France celebrates it :) but the 20 year anniversary has been one of the top subjects in news magazines for weeks already08:53
baptistemmhere too08:53
pittiit was indeed quite exciting times back then08:53
pittiI was only 9, but I still remember it08:53
baptistemmall day, TV news and radio are made from Berlin08:53
baptistemmI was 10 I remember the fall of the wall and trial in Romania against Caucescu08:54
* fagan was 1 when the wall fell (I think)08:55
ArneGoetjepitti: I will take a look at it09:04
baptistemmArneGoetje, hi09:05
baptistemmArneGoetje, https://edge.launchpad.net/~bmillemathias/+archive/ppa I did a package for karmic to test it, but there is some problem09:05
baptistemmwhen I install it for instance, all GTK+ applications crashed09:06
baptistemmthen after all was okay09:06
chrisccoulsonhello everyone09:16
pittihey chrisccoulson; had a good weekend?09:16
chrisccoulsonhi pitti - yes, my weekend wasn't too bad, although my girlfriend has had flu09:17
chrisccoulsonwhat about you?09:17
pittiwe had a nice party on Saturday evening, and had some family visit yesterday; nice and relaxing09:19
chrisccoulsonexcellent :) i like relaxing weekends too09:20
* fagan is getting angry at the poor excuse for a dictionary in Empathy 09:23
davmor2fagan: it's even more frustrating that you can't add words ;)09:26
chrisccoulsonpitti - thanks for sponsoring the s-t-b update. i tried out the new patch-tagging guidelines, but I wasn't too sure if i did it correctly yet ;)09:26
pittichrisccoulson: I was happy to see them in action :)09:26
fagandavmor2: exactly09:26
faganIts funny it doesnt like the word management but suggests the term stage-management09:27
asacpitti: hey ;)12:04
asacpitti: is seb on holiday?12:04
pittihi asac! enjoyed your holidays?12:04
pittiasac: no, he's travelling to Dallas today (DX sprint Wed-Fri)12:04
asacoh ... so gtk+2.0 is in -proposed12:04
asacwith bug 39353412:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 393534 in gtk+2.0 "gtkiconview issue, evolution chokes when attaching files sometimes" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39353412:04
asachowever, i need to unpatch the XID collision output12:04
asacthere were now reports that for some it filled .xsession-errors with 3GB12:05
asacseems like the 393534 didnt help ... not sure what to do now12:05
asacpitti: ^^12:05
asaci could remove the patch for that bug and put just the one liner for the Xid coliision warning in there12:06
mvo3GB ? impressive12:06
asacor keep the current proposed patch .. but of course risk that it blocks the xid thing12:06
asacmvo: ;) yeah12:07
mvoalmost as much fun as bug #45344412:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 453444 in rsyslog "/var/log fills up with "all normal" messages @ about 575/sec fill up the available space" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45344412:07
asac"all normal" ;)12:08
mvoyeah12:09
mvothis is why its so ironic12:09
asacmvo: you asked for me while i was away ... about some Xb- thing?12:09
mvo"I'm fine"12:09
mvo"I'm fine"12:09
mvo"I'm fine"12:09
mvo"I'm fine"12:09
mvo"I'm fine"12:09
mvo"I'm fine"12:09
mvo"I'm fine"12:09
asac /kick mvo-troll12:09
mvoasac: yeah, but I think we have a proposal ready for uds-discussion12:09
mvoasac: its about adding "XB-Restart-Required: [session, system, app]"12:10
mvoasac: to debain/control12:10
mvoso that we can display information about reboot required *before* the user installs the update12:10
pittiasac: since testing with that patch was unsuccessful, I'd say upload a new one with that patch removed, and we reattempt the former SRU later on12:10
asacpitti: ok i agree. just wanted to check12:11
pittiasac: just upload, I'll modify the bugs accordingly12:11
asacthx12:11
asacmvo: ok. but we still keep the update-notifier thing?12:12
mvoasac: yeah, maybe redoing it internally12:13
mvoasac: but it will warn before and after12:13
asacmvo: ffox currently relies on the notifier file being put there12:19
asacmvo: so just dropping that needs a valid alternative so firefox can display its "restart" button12:20
mvoasac: ok, we should have a quick talk about this during uds (not necessarily in a session)12:20
mvoasac: I have rarely seen the notication inside firefox, I never debugged it, might be a odd corner case12:20
asacok12:24
asachmm update-maintainer adds "asac@ubuntu.com" now as Maintainer ... thats odd12:33
chrisccoulsonwhat was the original maintainer?12:36
asacseb128@debian.org12:36
chrisccoulsoni'm sure i saw that before when the original maintainer had a @ubuntu.com mail address12:36
chrisccoulsonhmmm12:36
asaci think it has something to do with the fact that the package has control.in12:36
asacseems update-maintainer updated control.in12:37
chrisccoulsonpossibly12:37
asachow can i tell debuild to ignore maintainer?12:37
asacseems seb forced it too because it was a ubuntu1 with his debian email12:37
chrisccoulsoni'm not sure how to do that12:38
pittiasac: DEBEMAIL= debuild -S12:59
pittichrisccoulson: ^ FYI12:59
pittiit only bails out if $DEBEMAIL =~ /ubuntu/12:59
chrisccoulsonpitti - thanks13:00
baptistemmhello again13:02
baptistemmthere is some room for improvement when checkdisk fails, for a simple user getting a root maintenance shell is not enough13:02
baptistemmI had this case this week-end and a graphical solution would be nice to have13:03
asack thx13:08
dobeymac_v: yes i know it's filed. no i haven't really had any time to fix it yet :)13:18
mac_vdobey: cool... its just that the bug wasnt confirmed and i hadnt mentioned to you i filed it , so I thought you hadnt noticed it ;)13:53
dobeyyeah, there's an email for it13:54
dobeyone of like 30K bug e-mails i have from lp :)13:54
mac_vlol!13:54
rickspencer3welcome back asac14:27
asachi rickspencer3 ;)14:31
faganrickspencer3: hows the plans going for the UDS?14:32
rickspencer3hi fagan14:34
Riddellbryce: do you think this is still an issue? bug 8168614:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 81686 in qt-x11-free "SIGFPE in create_dpis() in QPaintDevice::~QPaintDevice" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8168614:34
rickspencer3you can check it out on launchpad14:34
faganrickspencer3: yep14:34
rickspencer3pitti did a wonderful job getting us organized14:34
didrockshey rickspencer314:34
rickspencer3hi didrocks14:35
kenvandinehey rickspencer314:46
rickspencer3hi kenvandine14:46
kenvandinerickspencer3, ready for the trip?14:47
* kenvandine is hacking on a proof of concept for hooking up the indicator with MC5 instead of patching empathy14:48
rickspencer3kenvandine, not really14:48
rickspencer3:/14:48
kenvandine:/14:48
rickspencer3I have to go over blueprints today14:49
rickspencer3and lots of other planning that I have to catch up on :o14:49
rickspencer3Lucid is going to be exciting indeed14:49
kenvandine:)14:49
kenvandineyeah, i have almost a week before i leave and feel like it isn't enough time :)14:49
rickspencer3no seb12815:00
rickspencer3seb128 est on un avion, n'ce'pa?15:02
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pittirickspencer3: oui, Monsieur15:07
rickspencer3salut, pitti15:07
pittirickspencer3: comment vas-tu?15:07
rickspencer3bon, et tois?15:08
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pittitres bien, merci!15:08
pittiI'm down to two merges15:08
rickspencer3j' suis energe15:09
pittiand got the worst jockey bugs nailed for karmic-proposed now15:09
rickspencer3UDS vais beacaue important15:10
* rickspencer3 needs to work on spelling :/15:10
rickspencer3pitti, chouette15:10
rickspencer3I have time blocked out today to go over all the blueprints15:10
* baptistemm just seens people are writing french here15:11
rickspencer3(especially quickly ones)15:11
rickspencer3hi baptistemm, indeed ... j'etudi francais15:11
* rickspencer3 has taken it for 3 weeks15:11
baptistemmhéhé15:12
baptistemmbonne chance :)15:12
* pitti now stops pretending that he can speak a single word in French15:15
baptistemmI admit I didn't got all messages written above :)15:16
rickspencer3:/15:22
rickspencer3baptistemm, how do I "I feel energized"?15:23
baptistemmrickspencer3, don't hesitate to ask for a translator, there is a lot of french people here :)15:23
baptistemm"Je me sens plein d'énergie" I'd say15:24
baptistemm"Je me sens en forme" perhaps15:24
rickspencer3"je me sens foo" = "I'm feeling foo"?15:25
rickspencer3baptistemm ^15:26
baptistemmyep15:27
baptistemmI feel tired, => je me sens fatigué15:27
jcastropitti or seb128: zeuthen maintains g-d-u correct?15:55
pittijcastro: upstream, yes15:56
jcastropitti, and policykit-gnome too right?15:57
pittiright15:57
jcastrothanks!15:57
Ngrobbiew: have you had any flashing-capslock crashes from your 301?17:20
robbiewno17:20
and471mvo, mpt: I have been able to do some work on the history view of software-center17:20
Ngbah17:20
* Ng fears for his hardware17:20
and471mpt: are you available to scrutinise it for 5 mins?17:21
and471mpt: don't worry I shall catch you another time17:26
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chrisccoulsonare some users still having general issues with locking the screen using the indicator-session applet?18:10
chrisccoulsonmac_v?18:10
pittichrisccoulson: WFM18:11
mac_vchrisccoulson:  hmmm ... what did i do, now ? o.018:11
chrisccoulsonpitti - yeah, it works here too, but i seem to remember some people were having issues with it18:11
chrisccoulsonand i just found an issue with it18:11
mac_vchrisccoulson: you mean the screen lock? i'm not having problems , WFM ;)18:12
chrisccoulsonif gnome-screensaver starts after indicator-user-service, then it fails to lock the screen18:12
mac_vmpt: regarding notify-osd>>> * There will be a new style, yet to be decided.   << how about having 1px white line around the bubbles :)18:18
pittigood night everyone!18:38
dobeyhrmm19:20
dobeyis it just me, or is anyone else seeing a fd leak with rhythmbox on karmic?19:21
serialorderI am looking at some of the merges on http://piware.de/workitems/desktop/lucid/versions.html20:32
serialorderthere are many where like this for example  vino  2.28.1-0ubuntu2  2.28.1-1 where the debian version doesn't introduce anything new. It makes the m a fairly simple merge. Is that something that I might work on or is there other plans?20:35
Laneyserialorder: yes, do them if you are so inclined20:41
serialorderwhat shoudl i doonce they are done20:41
serialorderhow do i get them approved?20:41
serialorderlike I would with a some other universe package? file a bug then add universe-sponsors or something else since they are ubuntu-desktop packages?20:42
Laneymain sponsors if it's in main20:43
serialorderok so there is nothing special to do because it is part of ubuntu-desktop?20:43
mdzeek:22:36
mdzmdz       2886  0.0 68.0 2095488 1005860 ?     Sl   Oct09   2:26 /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-data-server-2.28 --oaf-activat22:36
RaXORhi 2 all... who can say is it ubuntu soft developers room ?22:40
RaXORis anybody active here ?? thx22:42
chrisccoulsonhi mclasen - i saw your comment on bug 579738. i've just tested a patch which should be sufficient for a stable update in ubuntu (ie, it fixes the crash), but it doesn't remove all the atexit handlers like you suggested. would you mind taking a quick look to make sure that it still does what you *think* it should be doing when it exits?23:07
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 579738 could not be found23:07
chrisccoulsonoops, gnome bug 57973823:07
ubottuGnome bug 579738 in Agent "seahorse-agent leaves behind its socket dir" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57973823:07
chrisccoulsonthe patch is at http://people.ubuntu.com/~chrisccoulson/seahorse-plugins%20SRU/seahorse-plugins_2.28.1-0ubuntu4.debdiff23:07
mclasenlooks like the right idea; have you checked if any of the other uninit functions does anything relevant ? It didn't look like it to me23:10
chrisccoulsonmclasen - i had a quick look through, and the other uninit functions seemed to be mainly unref'ing widgets and removing gconf notifies etc23:11
chrisccoulsonthanks for looking. we'l probably upload this tomorrow23:12
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