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dtchenanyone with i386 -- bare metal, not vm -- lying about?01:00
* jdong scratches head at bug 47589102:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 475891 in eagle "eagle crashes on: zoom into schematic " [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47589102:06
dtchenheh, I remember eagle.02:08
jdongdtchen: heh the proposed fix is one of the more amusing ones I'v eseen02:13
jdongespecially when it seems like neither the SRU submitter nor the Debian uploader seem to give a second thought to it02:13
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JonyBlazemaybe it uses relative paths?03:12
JonyBlazestill though...heh03:17
jgoppert1how best to make a package that is just a super package that makes other package ?04:18
jgoppert1install04:18
sbalneavjgoppert1: Take a look at one of the existing metapackages04:20
sbalneavsomething like ubuntu-desktop.04:20
jgoppert1thanks i'll check it out04:21
sbalneavapt-get source ubuntu-desktop.04:21
jgoppert1exec germinate-update-metapackage --bzr ??04:29
jgoppert1i think this is probably not needed for me, but wondered if anyone knows that this command does04:29
jgoppert1has anyone used dh --with germinate, i think it must be used to pipe files in somehow Depends: ${misc:Depends}, ${germinate:Depends}04:33
jgoppert1found the equivs package, looks very helpful, thanks guys04:42
JonyBlazeis there a way I can delete a package I uploaded to REVU?04:45
nhandler_JonyBlaze: What is the package?04:50
nhandler_JonyBlaze: And why do you want to delete it?04:50
JonyBlazenhandler_: pep8, after I made it I relized there is a Debian package with the same name (unrelated)04:51
JonyBlazeI need to rename it04:51
JonyBlazeI will rename it to pep8simulator04:52
JonyBlazehttp://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pep804:53
JonyBlazehttp://packages.debian.org/sid/pep804:54
JonyBlazethats not good :(04:54
nhandler_JonyBlaze: Done04:55
JonyBlazethank you!04:55
nhandler_JonyBlaze: You are welcome04:56
ScottKjgoppert1: If you think equivs is a solution to your problem you are almost certainly not considering the solution correctly.  In almost all cases, including the one you're considering, it's a horrible hack and not the write way to go.05:56
jgoppert1Scottk: what do you recommend? I can do it manually. I have built other packages05:58
ScottKIt depends on how often it will change.05:58
ScottKFor most in archive metapackages we use seeds and germinate, but if it'll rarely change, manually is fine.05:59
jgoppert1its a set of packages that i want to install on my computer network, maybe every month or so05:59
jgoppert1i've been looking at ubuntu-meta, but have yet to figure out how germinate:Depends is supposed to pull in what file06:00
ScottKBut if the set isn't going to change, then just do it manually and make the packages you want a depends of the metapackage.06:00
jgoppert1the set will change every month06:00
austin_laptopso at wineconf, Scott Richie mentioned that there is a list of ~1000 packages that don't compile on Karmic, anyone know where that is? google doesn't show much06:05
siretartaustin_laptop: see the topic, last link06:07
austin_laptopah, crap, I'm blind06:07
austin_laptopthanks06:07
jmarsdenPackage version numbering confusion: bible-kjv is one of those "doesn't build on Karmic" packages.  I just fixed it.  It was version 4.23.  No -1, no -1ubuntu1, etc.  Just 4.23.  What should I number the fixed package?06:30
ScottKjmarsden: If it's a native package in Debian, leave it that way.06:31
jmarsdenSo ... does that mean I can bump it to 4.24 myself?06:32
siretartno, that would clash if debian publishes 4.24. this would then confuse everyone06:34
AnAntshould one sign the new CoC ?06:35
siretartScottK: TBH, converting it to non-native does not sound like the worst idea to me.06:35
jmarsdenI know a friendly DD I can probably get to upload it to Debian unstable for me... should I bump to 4.24 and do things that way??06:36
siretartjmarsden: the cleanest way: get 4.24 sponsored to debian and then have it synced to ubuntu. in that order06:37
jmarsdenOK, makes sense.  Will do.  Thanks.06:37
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dholbachgood morning07:56
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iulianMorning dholbach.08:29
dholbachhi iulian08:30
wrapsterI recently added a few changes to bintuils pkg that i was working on... I fixed/uploaded the latest one .. but on some machine via the APT if i try to install them I get this error... http://pastie.org/68989009:07
LucidFoxWhy does mc have such weird defaults for file associations?09:33
LucidFoxIt tries to run gqview for image files, for one09:34
siretart`LucidFox: I see that you work a lot on multimedia packages in09:42
siretart`ubuntu. have you considered joining pkg-multimedia and maintain the09:42
siretart`ubuntu packages there?09:42
LucidFoxsiretart`> In Debian?09:54
siretart`well, sort-of yes.09:55
slytherinNCommander: ping09:57
directhexpoke pokey poke poke. is TheMuso about?09:59
LucidFoxsiretart`, won't all the packages depending on libmp4v2 in Ubuntu also be able to use it in Debian?10:07
siretart`LucidFox: probably yes10:08
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\shmoins10:22
siretart`hi \sh!10:24
\shbah...office power outage and the whole infrastructure inhouse doesn't work anymore...dear god of sysadmins, please give me pros to work with11:02
mok0\sh: no UPS'es?11:11
\shmok0, not in this office...and it's internal it which is responsible for this mess11:27
dpmhey dholbach, I've got a question on SRUs on the sponsorship queue. I'm looking at http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/sponsoring/ I filed an SRU at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/460984 and it doesn't appear on the list. I'm not sure I did the nomination for karmic correctly. What do you think it could be?11:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 460984 in ubuntu-translations "KMail Dutch: translator's e-mail in application" [High,Fix committed]11:38
dholbachit doesn't have the sponsoring team on it? :)11:39
dholbachubuntu-main-sponsors in this case11:39
dpmdholbach, argh! I had not noticed I had only subscribed ubuntu-sru. Thanks! :)11:49
dpmsorted11:49
\shttx, pingeling ;) bug #475457 :)12:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 475457 in tomcat6 "Adding JSVC_CLASSPATH to /etc/default/tomcat6" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47545712:19
ttx\sh: yo12:25
\shttx, I wanted to put this topic as start of a discussion about this...I wonder if the patch I did is sane, or if it's better, to move $JSVC_CLASSPATH from /etc/default/tomcat6 after the default startup classes12:26
ttx\sh: the way you did it allows to override the default classes, which sounds cool...12:27
ttxonly unknown is whther starting a classpath with ":" is allowed/harmful or not12:28
\shttx, imho it is, but we can go with a better solution with some shell magic..e.g. setting JSVC_CLASSPATH in default to empty... and in /etc/init.d/tomcat6 if [ -z "$JSVC_CLASSPATH" ]; then JSVC_CLASSPATH="<the standard stuff>" else JSVC_CLASSPATH="$JSVC_CLASSPATH:<the standard stuff>" fi12:33
ttx\sh: sure.12:33
\shttx, or just set the default settings in /etc/default/tomcat6 and use it as well in the init script...so we are clean...all defaultsettings are set where it really belongs :)12:34
ttx\sh: yes, that's even better... then you can add your stuff before and/or after the regular stuff.12:35
\shttx, yepp...12:35
sebnerhiuhu \sh, everything fine? :D12:51
ThreeOfEightHallo, can anyone help me build a package, step by step?12:52
\shsebner, if you ask in such a tone, no ;)12:53
sebnerThreeOfEight: that always differ from source to source. have you read the packaging guide?12:53
ThreeOfEightYes I have.12:53
ThreeOfEightIn two languages12:54
sebner\sh: "such tone" ?12:54
sebnerThreeOfEight: ok, where do you have problems?12:54
ThreeOfEightWell first of all, I'm not entirely sure how to start12:54
ThreeOfEightThe programme I'm trying to build a package of is a small game a friend of mine wrote, I've got the source and a binary12:55
ThreeOfEightSo what do I do? Put both in one package? Or build two separate ones?12:55
sebnerThreeOfEight: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted12:55
ThreeOfEightoh, okay, I haven't read that one.12:57
directhexThreeOfEight, you don't package binaries. you create source packages, which define how binaries should be built and packaged by the build servers12:57
ThreeOfEightah okay, that makes sense12:59
ThreeOfEighthowever, when I tried to build my source package, I had a weird error13:00
ThreeOfEightIt said that "changes could not be applied because the binary file was changed"13:00
ThreeOfEightbut I'll try again from scratch13:00
directhexThreeOfEight, if your "clean" rule in debian/rules doesn't revert everything back to before-you-tried-compiling status, then you get that error13:01
ThreeOfEightOh yes, that was weird, too13:01
ThreeOfEightit first said that there was no rule to make clean13:01
ThreeOfEightbut there was a clean: in the rules file13:01
geserclean from debian/rules often calls clean from the upstream makefile, perhaps it's that what's missing13:08
ThreeOfEightThere is no upstream makefile13:08
ThreeOfEightbecause there's really nothing to clean13:08
ThreeOfEightWhere am I, that is my script, supposed to put the compiled binary?13:08
joaopintoThreeOfEight, aren't you building from source ? there should be a resulting binary to clean13:12
ThreeOfEightWell, what do I do with that binary?13:12
ThreeOfEightWhere do I put it?13:12
ThreeOfEightThe root directory of the package?13:12
directhexThreeOfEight, the "binary" rule in debian/rules should take the binary produced in the "build" rule, and place it inside an appropriate pretend path (usually debian/tmp/usr/bin/fooapp or something like that), and send the right commands to turn that path into a package13:13
joaopintoThreeOfEight, to start, was the binary built from the source as part of the package build process ?13:13
joaopintodirecthex, I believe he is trying to install a precompiled binary13:13
ThreeOfEightit was.13:13
ThreeOfEightno, I'm not13:13
ThreeOfEightI am compiling, and that works13:13
joaopintoThreeOfEight, so you already fixed the binary on changes error, right ?13:13
directhexlet me find a simple example of a makefile-free package13:14
ThreeOfEightyes13:14
joaopintook13:14
ThreeOfEightI just don't know where to put the compiled binary now13:14
joaopintoThreeOfEight, are you using cdbs or debhelper ?13:14
ThreeOfEighter13:14
joaopintowith cdbs it's simpler13:14
ThreeOfEightright now I just call dpkg-buildpackage13:14
joaopintook, and how is your debian/rules ?13:14
ThreeOfEightWell it compiles it13:14
joaopintoa long list of dh_* calls ?13:15
ThreeOfEightIt cleans it up13:15
ThreeOfEightYes13:15
directhexjoaopinto, cdbs is never simpler than dh7 unless you are doing *just* the right voodoo13:15
joaopintook, so it's using debhelper13:15
ThreeOfEightI just modified the original one created by dh_make13:15
ThreeOfEightah, yes13:15
ThreeOfEightright, I am. sorry.13:15
directhexjoaopinto, dh7, that is. dh5 is complex13:15
joaopintodirecthex, right, but most people still use dh513:15
ThreeOfEightand I removed all the Makefile calls13:15
directhexwell, they're sillypants! dh5 is hard!13:15
ThreeOfEightso what I need to know now is where to put the binary. It's supposed to go into /usr/share/games/ttmine13:15
joaopintoI personally found cdbs easier to understand :P13:16
directhexbinaries don't go in /usr/share. /usr/share is for cross-platform code13:16
directhexor non-code, more commonly13:16
ThreeOfEightReally? But all the other games install in there.13:16
directhexin part13:16
directhexthings like art assets go in /usr/share13:16
directhexas art is cross-platform13:16
ThreeOfEightheh... true...13:17
ThreeOfEightokay13:17
ThreeOfEightso /usr/bin/?13:17
directhexbut libraries go in /usr/lib, and executables in /usr/bin13:17
ThreeOfEightalright13:17
joaopintogames binaries go into /usr/games13:17
directhexoh, yes13:17
directhexsilly distinction IMHO13:17
ThreeOfEightI am a bit of a newbie in Linux, especially to package building13:17
ThreeOfEightso where do I put the binary in the package13:17
ThreeOfEightttmine-0.51/games?13:18
ThreeOfEightor ttmine-0.51/debian/games?13:18
directhexThreeOfEight, typically into debian/tmp/usr/games/13:18
ThreeOfEightWhy tmp?13:18
directhexthink of debian/tmp as a "staging area" where you construct your ideal installation, with everything in its nice little folders as expected, before you issue the appropriate command to turn debian/tmp/* into * inside a package13:20
ThreeOfEightah okay13:20
ThreeOfEightso in the final package, I will just move all the contents of tmp up directly into debian?13:20
directhexwell, the dh_builddeb command is what does that, whether you call it manually or via a layer like cdbs or dh713:21
directhexdh_builddeb reads a list of files or folders in debian/install, removes debian/tmp from the start of them, and shoves them in a .deb file13:22
ThreeOfEightwhat is debian/install then?13:22
directhexjust a list of files & folders to put in the package13:22
ThreeOfEightso I have to create that, too?13:23
directhexyes13:23
ThreeOfEightso okay13:24
ThreeOfEightI have rules in build so that all the stuff created goes into debian/tmp/and so on13:24
ThreeOfEightWhere and what do I have to put stuff into debian/install?13:24
directhexdebian/install is just a text file13:24
directhexit should contain lines like "debian/tmp/usr/bin"13:25
ThreeOfEightokay, thanks, I thought it was a director13:26
ThreeOfEight+y13:26
directhexit's just a list of what you want to go into a package. sometimes build processes make lots of extra crap you want to skip - or you have multiple install files to send different files into different packages in the event that you want multiple packages from a single sourcwe13:27
ThreeOfEightAre the contents of the tmp directory (and the directory structure itself) supposed to be created during build or can I create that before, too?13:27
directhexthey should be created during the build13:27
ThreeOfEightalright13:27
directhexmakes life easier - your clean rule can just go "rm -r debian/tmp"13:28
ThreeOfEightunrelated question, is there an easy way to construct an entire path?13:29
ThreeOfEightlike, one command instead of mkdir debian/tmp; mkdir debian/tmp/usr and so on13:29
directhextry "-p"13:29
directhexas in "mkdir -p debian/tmp/usr/lib/foogame/" will create every piece of that chain13:30
ThreeOfEightAaah13:30
ThreeOfEightI just read the man file, but it seems like I failed to see that option13:30
ThreeOfEightthanks13:30
joaopintodirecthex, doesn't dh_clean rm debian/tmp already ?13:32
ThreeOfEightI think so13:32
directhexjoaopinto, maybe. even better13:32
ThreeOfEightThat's why I thought it's supposed to be created during build13:32
ThreeOfEightI built it and tmp was gone13:32
joaopintoThreeOfEight, you can also use debian/dirs13:32
* directhex runs deprecated dh_prep calls on joaopinto 13:32
ThreeOfEightFor what?13:32
joaopintowhich takes care of the dirs creation13:32
ThreeOfEightah okay13:32
joaopintoassumming your rules call dh_installdirs somehow13:33
ThreeOfEightyes13:33
ThreeOfEightso I just but, er13:33
ThreeOfEight /usr/games into dirs?13:34
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ThreeOfEightI don't get it... I did move my binary to debian/tmp/usr/games, but it doesn't get included into the package13:56
joaopintoThreeOfEight, do you have debian/install with the file you need ?13:57
Laneyyou have to copy from there to the package build directories13:57
Laneydebian/tmp is just a staging area13:57
joaopintoand your rules call  dh_install  ?13:57
ThreeOfEightoh13:57
ThreeOfEightright right...13:57
ThreeOfEightso what exactly do I put into debian/install13:58
joaopintoThreeOfEight, debian/tmp/usr/games13:58
Laneydebian/tmp/usr/games13:58
ThreeOfEightokay13:58
joaopintodh_install will strip the debian/tmp...13:58
Laney"the stuff you want in your package"13:58
joaopintofor the target name13:58
ThreeOfEightwell then I could just as well write debian/tmp, aye13:58
joaopintoon you case yes, since you want it all :p13:59
ThreeOfEightOkay, thanks everyone, I think it works14:00
joaopinto:)14:01
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qenseThe Guake package is using "gconf-schemas --register guake.schemas > /dev/null" to install the file /data/guake/guake.schemas in its postinst script. Now there is bug #366621, with some people reporting that the schemas are not properly installed. Could this be fixed by switching to "gconftool-2 --makefile-install-rule {path}", and which of the two ways is encouraged?14:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 366621 in guake "guake package does not install gconfig schema" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36662114:19
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cemcis there a way to tell pbuilder to use something other than tar+gzip for the base.tgz ?15:06
hyperaircemc: try reimplementing the function create_basetgz() in your .pbuilderrc15:09
hyperairit may or may not work15:09
hyperairthe original is in /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-modules15:09
hyperairhmm no it won't work15:09
hyperairwell you could dpkg-divert it away and edit it directly =p15:09
cemcI just thought why not try to use pigz for example15:11
hyperairis it better?15:12
hyperairhmm parallel eh15:12
hyperairinteresting15:12
cemcwell honestly I didn' try it,15:13
cemcbut I tried pbzip2 on a quad-core,15:13
cemcand it is ~4x faster15:13
hyperairin all honesty, gzip is pretty damn fast, so the bottleneck is probably already your disk i/o15:13
hyperairbz is something else entirely15:13
cemcwith 4gb ram it's likely cached15:13
hyperairbzip2 takes damn long.15:13
cemcand with tmpfs as buildplace I think it would be worth a try :)15:15
bddebianHeya gang15:16
\shanyone needs a hand regarding merging?15:16
hyperaircemc: i was talking more of the writing.15:16
hyperaircemc: tar -czf reads the entire chroot, tarballs it, gzips it, and writes it to disk15:17
hyperairthe bottleneck is probably writing15:17
hyperairsince the files are probably cached, as you said15:17
hyperaircemc: if you've got enough disk space, i'd suggest cowbuilder instead.15:17
bddebianHey if you folks are merging any packages that are orphaned in Debian, let me know and I'll try to upload changes to Debian so you can sync. :)15:18
cemchyperair: tar -czf is rarely used, only when building the base, right? if one does a lot of package building, it gets tar -xzf 'd more, without changing. that's what I was thinking about. but I can try cowbuilder too15:19
cemcof course -x'ing is not that cpu intensive as -c'ing ;)15:20
hyperaircemc: but even -xzf writes a lot of data. in fact, it writes more than it reads15:20
hyperair-xzf writes more than it reads, and -czf reads more than it writes.15:20
hyperairbut both involve quite a lot of writing15:20
cemcthat's true. but I have a tmpfs /cache where all the -x'ing and compiling/building is going on, so there's no real writing when -x'ing15:22
cemchow's cowbuilder different anyway?15:22
gesercemc: a pbuilder on a tmpfs is pretty fast15:25
cemcgeser: I know ;)15:26
\shsbuild with local archive on a dl385 with 10k hds is fast too ,-)15:26
hyperairbut it's more of a pain to setup15:27
\shhyperair, hmm..no...mk-sbuild-lv is doing that for you, but right, you need to use debmirror to mirror the archives ;)15:27
hyperairsee? what a pain >_>15:27
hyperairand there's no --autocleanaptcache15:27
hyperairbesides, i don't like the idea of a fix-sized volume15:28
geserI use apt-cacher-ng for my pbuilder to cache the needed debs15:28
hyperairbut why?15:28
cemchyperair: so what would I need to hack exactly to use something other than tar+gzip?15:29
cemcjust for the heck of it :)15:29
\shhyperair, http://paste.ubuntu.com/314164/ <- it's enough for me ;)15:29
hyperaircemc: change tar -czf and -xzf to tar -c | pigz -c > file and cat file | tar -x | pigz -dc respectively15:30
hyperaircemc: dig around in /usr/lib/pbuilder15:30
hyperair\sh: that is HUGE15:30
\shhyperair, no :)15:31
hyperairwell for the time being, as long as i'm on this campus, i live on the same LAN as a full ubuntu mirror so i don't really care about caching really =\15:31
hyperair\sh: 450G is not big to you?!15:32
\shhyperair, there is still place on the iscsi msa ;)15:32
\shhyperair, nope15:32
* hyperair whacks \sh 15:32
hyperairhmph15:32
hyperairi've only got 320G15:32
hyperairand i get touchy when my pbuilder's aptcache exceeds 1G15:33
\shhyperair, hd space is one thing I have enough of15:33
hyperairblargh!15:33
hyperairi used to live on a 160G hard disk15:34
hyperairthen it died prematurely15:34
\shnext week I'll reactivate some of my old 7TB machines15:34
* hyperair wants.15:34
\shlet's see if they are stable with a new raid controller15:34
\shand a new backplane15:35
ThreeOfEightBloody hell... okay, for some reason, my files still don't get moved into the package, even though I created a debian/install file which lists the directory15:58
ThreeOfEightsorry, did anyone reply? I was gone for some time16:02
joaopintoTheMuso, is dh_install invoked when you run debuild ?16:02
joaopintoops, was ThreeOfEight16:02
ThreeOfEightI'm calling dpkg-buildpackage16:03
ThreeOfEightbut... wait, I'll look16:03
ThreeOfEightit calls dh_installdirs, installchangelogs, installdocs, installman and installdeb16:05
gnomefreakanyone know if pulseaudio-module-udev was replaced by another package?16:05
gnomefreaksorry in lucid16:06
ThreeOfEightWhen am I supposed to call dh_install?16:09
shankaohi, I'm trying to get a new package uploaded to REVU, but although I get dput success, my revu page shows no uploaded packages by me... I have my keys correctly configured and used to sing the package that also contain the original sources16:14
shankaois there anything missing?16:14
gnomefreakshankao: IIRC it will show up on next refresh on revus end16:19
ThreeOfEightWhere and how am I supposed to call dh_install if I want it to put everything in debian/tmp into the right place?16:21
shankaognomefreak: ok, thanks... is that something automatic (like periodic refresh each hour) or manual?16:22
gnomefreakshankao: yes its automatic but its been a while sinc ei used revu16:23
directhexThreeOfEight, how much of your "binary" rule is abnormal? is it just assorted dh_* commands?16:25
ThreeOfEightWhat do you mean abnormal?16:25
directhexThreeOfEight, things that aren't just dh_* commands16:25
ThreeOfEightbinary: binary-indep binary-arch16:25
ThreeOfEightbinary-indep and binary-arch both call install16:26
ThreeOfEightand binary-arch also has lots of dh_'s16:26
ThreeOfEightbut that's it16:26
ThreeOfEightanyway, I got it working now, somehow16:26
directhexokay. delete binary, binary-indep and binary-arch. then just write16:26
directhexbinary:16:26
directhex        dh $@16:27
ThreeOfEightBy removing dh_prep and manually including dh_install in install:16:27
ThreeOfEighterm16:27
ThreeOfEightokay I'll try16:27
directhex(make sure debian/compat contains the number 7)16:27
ThreeOfEightit does16:27
directhexthen the "dh" command works16:27
ThreeOfEightwhat about that .PHONY part down there16:27
directhexshouldn't be needed in simple cases, really16:28
ThreeOfEightand what am I supposed to put in install and build?16:28
directhexgiven you don't have a makefile, i'd leave them be for now16:29
ThreeOfEightRight now, I have build calls build-stamp (for some reason)16:29
ThreeOfEightokay16:29
cemchyperair: ok, I'll try that, thx16:33
hyperaircemc: np16:33
ThreeOfEightokay, now dh_install (automatically called by dh $@) doesn't find the directory I specified in debian/install anymore16:33
ThreeOfEight...because dh_prep deletes it before dh_install is called16:34
ThreeOfEightodd16:34
ThreeOfEightNever mind, I worked around it, just left out dh_prep16:45
VoradorHi. Could someone help with PPA builds? The problem is that the build-bot installs the wrong version of software (I have the needed version in my ppa already built, but it installs ubuntu version instead) and package building fails because of that. Build log -> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35424976/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-lpia.audacious-plugins_1.5.1-2ubuntu3~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz Package list -> https://launchpad.net/~sandshrew/+17:09
Voradorarchive/ppa/+packages17:09
Adri2000RainCT: do you know someone called chancellor? (he unassigned you from bug #161762)17:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 161762 in merge-o-matic "Use AJAX to submit comments (when JavaScript is enabled)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16176217:14
jgoppertanyone know why my pbuilder would pick up some packages on my mirror but say that others are virtual packages and fail out ??17:14
jgoppertI did the obvious stuff like apt-get update. The packages install fine through apt, have my ppa set as the other mirror in my pbuilderrc17:16
jgoppertlol pbuilder update, stupid me17:20
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pkernjdong: Well, just changing the version number and the suite target on LP: #365770 can hardly require resubscription of motu-sru, no?  I don't see any "ACK otherwise" there.17:24
VoradorSo, nobody knows how to fix the issue with dependences?17:29
ScottKVorador: Without looking, I'd guess you uploaded something with a lower version number than what's in the archive.17:33
ScottKVorador: We work on developing Ubuntu here, so PPA questions aren't a priority for a lot of people.17:33
VoradorScottK, yes I uploaded lower version.  Anyway, where I could ask PPA questions? Is there anything better than #ubuntu?17:34
Vorador[lower than the one in ubuntu default repos]17:35
ScottKVorador: #launchpad maybe.  They seem to think we should anwswer the world's packaging questions for PPAs, so not sure.17:35
VoradorOk, i'll try...17:36
RainCTAdri2000: uh? No, I don't think so17:36
Adri2000RainCT: that's what I thought. well, dunno what he is doing with the bug...17:37
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jdongpkern: one can certainly argue a re-ack is superfluous17:44
jdongand I'd agree with that ;-)17:45
jdongit was more of "please resubscribe -sru if my attention is needed again" to reduce the clutter of subscribed bugs17:45
RainCTAdri2000: well, anyway I haven't started doing any of the Ajax yet (waiting for Scott to merge the design stuff)17:46
pkernjdong: So I fix that and upload?17:46
jdongpkern: yes please; I just commented on the ticket to the same effect17:48
ScottKjdong: You and probably TheMuso need to decide what to do about the currently pending lmms SRU upload.  It got shoved in the queue at the last second when upstream said "Oh, you want these patches too", but doesn't have a proper bug/test cases/etc.17:55
Adri2000RainCT: ok18:04
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jdongScottK: I'll take a look at that tonight18:24
jdonggot a midterm in an hour18:24
jdong[which I'm gonna fail]18:24
ScottKThen you may as well keep working on Ubuntu.  ;-)18:24
ScottKjdong: OK.  Thanks.18:24
jdongLOL18:26
jdongI feel the same way at times18:26
jdongstop putting evil thoughts in my head18:26
jdong*starts filling out drop-subject form in preparation for the midterm*18:27
DktrKranzjames_w: have you access to sync-blacklist?20:05
james_wyes20:06
DktrKranzjames_w: mind add entries for gdebi (which already slipped in, luckily with no harm) and ubuntu-dev-tools (actually in Debian NEW)20:13
james_wnope20:14
james_wcan you version ubuntu-dev-tools such that it won't happen?20:14
james_wjust makes more sense that way20:14
DktrKranzare there special versions which are excluded from autosync?20:15
DktrKranz(for native packages)20:16
james_wdone20:16
james_wdon't think so20:16
DktrKranzI could eventually use ~debian120:17
LaneyDktrKranz: so what's the plan there?20:18
Laneydo we upload to debian now?20:18
Laneywhat about getting other scripts into eg devscripts?20:19
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ScottKMany of the scripts in u-d-t aren't really Ubuntu specific.20:48
DktrKranzLaney: some of them could be eventually proposed for merging into devscripts, some are really Ubuntu-specific, some have already some counterpart in devscripts (or similar packages)20:53
DktrKranznhandler's summary is a good starting point20:54
DktrKranzjames_w: FYI, I updated launchpadlib and dependant packages to latest version, most of them (if not all) could be synced now20:56
james_wDktrKranz: great, thanks20:56
DktrKranzI have only discovered a drawback in restfulclient unicode implementation which breaks u-d-t (buildd, at least), patch to fix it is http://people.debian.org/~dktrkranz/u-d-t_unicode.patch20:57
DktrKranzs/patch/workaround/20:57
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* RoAkSoAx is happy... lucid pbuilder creation succeeded... 21:03
jgoppert_can anyone tell me why launchpad fails to import my git repository from sourceforge?21:12
cody-somervilleask in #launchpad21:13
jgoppert_thanks21:13
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ari-tczewany sponsors are now working on lucid?22:07
geserif I find time then yes22:25
chrisccoulsoni'm still working on karmic SRU's :(22:30
RaXORhi 2 all, may be it's not right to start my speech like that, but i want to know how can usual person join soft developers team for ubuntu in gnome or kde ??22:31
RaXORor if you can give me any information about i searching... please22:32
RaXORi'm a programmer and very interested in ubuntu project22:33
ScottKRaXOR: For KDE, see #kubuntu-devel and ask.22:33
RaXORthx22:33
RaXORand for gnome ?22:33
RaXORi have asked for kde cose of using qt libraries22:34
RaXORthx #ubuntu-devel is a nice room... i hope =) buy22:35
geserfor gnome: #ubuntu-desktop22:36
RaXORthx 2 u =)22:36
geserthere are the persons working on the gnome packages22:36
jgoppert_i've got a .so that depends on another .so, works fine, make dist check works, but when running debuild when trying to build some shared libraries it fails, can you guys help?22:50
jgoppert_i think i spotted it, missing \ in my automake file :-)22:52
TheMusodirecthex: You wre after me last night?22:53
directhexTheMuso, yeah, prematurely it seems22:54
directhexTheMuso, banshee with a11y is un banshee-daily ppa... but it's disabled in build due to needing an exact version of gtk# which isn't in the archive22:55
TheMusodirecthex: ah ok22:59
jgoppert_dh_shlibdeps23:00
jgoppert_dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /usr/lib/libcxcore.so.4 (used by debian/uvsim1/usr/lib/libuvsimSensing.so.0.0.0).23:00
jgoppert_have you guys seeen this sort of thing?23:00
jgoppert_looks like i left out .shlibs.local23:19
LaneyDktrKranz: I mean, do we upload to debian and sync now23:33
Laneyor are you going to sync back from debian or or or?23:33
Laneyfrom ubuntu to debian even23:33
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jgoppert_how do you get the shlib file to install should it be lib lib1.shlib?23:40
jcastroScottK, ok talked to elmo and he agrees that keeping old gobby is the sanest thing. I've updated the wiki page and I've asked jono to mention it at the opening plenary.23:40
ScottKjcastro: Excellent.23:42
ScottKAt least it's decided in advance23:42
DktrKranzLaney: I asked to sync-blacklist u-d-t for now, I don't plan to have many changes in Debian that I won't push back to trunk, but it could happen (as happened in gdebi, for instance)23:42
jgoppert_got it, uncomment dh_makeshlibs and my life is easy.. whew23:42
DktrKranzLaney: I think it's better upload in Ubuntu as upstream first, and then in Debian if needed23:43
Laneyhmm23:43
Laneyyeah I think it makes more sense to treat this as a special case reversal of the normal package flow23:45
Laneyso you as Debian maintainer can take care of syncing it back to unstable23:45
DktrKranzthe main reason I listed as maintainer is to avoid bouncing23:46
DktrKranz*myself23:46
Laneywell someone has to take care of it23:48

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