=== dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [00:25] kde 3 packages are so painful [00:25] all that automake yuckyness === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [02:08] apachelogger: Any chance of you changing the details of kubuntu-dev-tools on Launchpad so that it shows up as 'kubuntu-dev-tools' or 'Kubuntu Developer Tools' in bug reports instead of 'Useful tools for Kubuntu developers' ? [02:42] KTorrent 3.3 is out, neat. [02:44] does soyuz support 3.0 (quilt) yet? [02:45] No [02:46] It supports not dieing if it runs into it, but not actually using it. [02:51] meh [02:52] dh --with-kde needs translations support anyways. [02:52] JontheEchidna: This is because it's only been planned for squeeze for a couple of years, so there's no way the LP developers could have anticipated this. [02:53] Of course not. :/ [02:55] We wouldn't even have not crashing if wgrant (a community dev, not Canonical) hadn't worked on it. [02:57] was that sarcasm i was sensing? [02:58] nooooo :P [02:58] jjesse: No more than usual. [02:58] * JontheEchidna pbuilds his fancy ktorrent merge [02:58] oooo a fancy merge [02:58] fancy? newfangled? [02:59] too fancy for LP anyways [02:59] Not saying much [03:01] With source 3.0 uploads making their way to squeeze, I'd say that "it" will hit the fan shortly, if it hasn't already [03:03] Well getting soyuz to not crash is the reason turning on autosync got delayed. [03:03] is autosync running yet? [03:04] Yes. [03:04] The first pulse is about built [03:04] IIRC just ia64 and sparc aren't done. [03:05] soyuz is the name of the part of LP that does the building rithg? [03:05] * jjesse can never keep all the names straight [03:05] jjesse: Yes. === firephoto_ is now known as firephoto === flacoste_lunch is now known as flacoste [07:05] Popcon says ~900K ubuntu-desktop, 150K kubuntu-desktop, 60K xubuntu-desktop, ~350 kubuntu-desktop-kde3, 125 kubuntu-netbook, 35 lubuntu-desktop. [07:05] In absoute terms it doesn't mean anything, but the relative numbers may mean something. [07:07] edubuntu ~9200, edubuntu-kde ~2300 [07:34] ScottK: cool stats! where can I see the graphs? interesting to see trends as well [09:18] are the Neon builds in Jaunty still working? [09:19] hullu peoples [09:19] Mamarok: amarok-nightly ? [09:19] yes [09:19] hmm there isnt a karmic repo for it till now afaik [09:19] and so i think they should yes [09:20] since I have a strange report, that guy uses KDE 4.3.0 and the latest was 4.3.2 + Amarok Neon [09:20] same for KDE builds? [09:21] hmm i tried neon on 4.3.2 dont know if this will work in 4.3.30 [09:21] boah [09:21] 4.3.0 [10:40] anyone can help with apturl maybe its not possible to get it into midori for now [10:40] the wiki things dont help === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [11:06] hi, i'm installing a kubuntu to fix your bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=210878 [11:06] KDE bug 210878 in general "KNetworkManager crashed while upgrading, when NetworkManager was restarted (Knm::Activatable::deviceUni, compareDevices, activatableLessThan)" [Crash,New] [11:07] and i need a hand configuring kubuntu's grub - it doesn't have a menu.lst file to add/remove os sections [11:07] can i get priority kubuntu n00b assistance? [11:08] woha so u have grub 2 [11:08] wait a moment [11:08] !grub2 [11:08] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [11:08] wstephenson: it's grub 2 which uses grub.cfg [11:09] wstephenson: that page has pretty much everything youll need [11:09] is there a gui tool for it? [11:10] oh we have a id for it :| [11:10] wstephenson: if you want an german howto there is one too [11:10] ghostcube: thanks but no [11:11] wstephenson: no there's no gui tool [11:11] wstephenson: you can kick it and use grub1 again [11:11] :D [11:11] he doesn't say what he's upgrading from or to [11:11] Riddell: i'll just read the docs and do it by hand [11:11] it's a clean 9.10 install [11:12] although the crash is reported in svn1029786 version which is the one from 9.10 (but not the one in kubuntu updates which has fixes for GSM/VPN) [11:15] argh [11:15] can someone check if the bug is reproduceable with the latest version? [11:15] it should be a simple 'restart NM and see if KNM crashes' job [11:16] wstephenson: I'll try it [11:20] wstephenson: it crashes. Do you need the crash report from Dr. Konqui [11:21] neversfelde: if it's the same as at 210878 there's no need [11:21] k [11:27] I can't recreate it, although I am using svn1040607 from updates [11:28] Riddell: we need libwv2-4 for koffice in lucid, can you upload it there or should I file a sync bug in launchpad? [11:29] neversfelde: if it's in debian then a sync bug is the way to go [11:29] and it is my archive admin day today [11:30] Riddell: ok, I will do it right now [11:30] amichair: popcon.ubuntu.com, but you need to grab a copy of the data periodically as it doesn't hold history. [11:31] ScottK: too bad, wonder if someone did that and posted nice graphs on their blog or something [11:31] Not that I've seen. [11:31] neversfelde: do you have the updated 40607? [11:32] ScottK: I was actually happy to see the stats, somehow I always assumed kubuntu has a *much* smaller market share than ubuntu... wonder if we're catching up? [11:32] No idea. [11:32] The thing about popcon is it's really hard to tell what it means. [11:33] Since it's opt-in, you don't know. [11:33] Is there some reason that Kubuntu people would opt-in more or less often than Ubuntu people? [11:34] wstephenson: yes, 0.9~svn1040607 [11:34] ScottK: that would probably only depend on where/how the opt-in occurs. if it's exactly the same in both GUI-wise, the stats can't be too far off [11:34] amichair: It's hidden in the advanced tab of the installer. [11:35] > 1M entries is quiet a sample space... probably very small margin of error (but IANAStatistician) [11:35] ScottK: and in ubuntu it's hidden in the same place? [11:35] amichair: popcon.ubuntu.com is for the Ubuntu repos. [11:36] So you have to look at packages you'd find in different flavors to distinguish. [11:36] Riddell: how do i register the kubuntu-updates repo? [11:37] * wstephenson really should use *buntu for a month or 2 for some competitor analysis, he is clueless [11:38] wstephenson: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa [11:38] or through kpackagekit in system settings [11:39] ok, upgrading [11:47] what's the distinction between wishlist-priority bugs and 'wishes' with low/medium/high priority? do wishlists not have priorities themselves? [11:51] Riddell, neversfelde: ok, crashes here too. [11:53] wstephenson: doing what? upgrading to that PPA? [11:54] Riddell: KNM crashes on NM restart after upgrading from that PPA [11:55] just not on opensuse... [11:55] Riddell: plasma-networkmanagement seems not to depend on network-manager-[vpnc|openvpn|pptp], which its VPN plugins require to work. [11:56] oh [11:56] yes restarting network manager kills it [11:59] wstephenson: hum, we don't even have those in main, I wonder why not [12:00] Riddell: i started with a ubuntu then installed kubuntu-desktop on top of it, and that had the vpn NM plugins - is that a different main? [12:00] (they weren't installed by default but they were in the repo, i only added the kubuntu ppa to the default repos) [12:02] wstephenson: network-manager-[vpnc|openvpn|pptp] are all in universe, which is enabled by default but indicates that it's unsupported [12:02] it seems like something we'd want by default [12:02] although they do all seem to depend on Gnome GUI libraries [12:02] they are in the default opensuse repo [12:03] ah, then they haven't split the plugins up into the server plugin and the gnome UI plugin. [12:03] Riddell: there is already a sync request for wv2 from ScottK bug 477877 [12:03] Launchpad bug 477877 in wv2 "Sync wv2 0.4.1.dfsg-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/477877 [12:03] eg we have NetworkManager, NetworkManager-openvpn, NetworkManager-gnome, NetworkManager-openvpn-gnome, NetworkManager-kde, Networkmanager-openvpn-kde etc [12:04] neversfelde: he's a fast one so he is [12:04] :) [12:14] Riddell: also the dbus policy perms for pptp appear to be globally wrong in *buntu, NetworkManager can't call the VPN plugin to ask it if it needs secrets [12:16] neversfelde: no support today ? hehe you may can help with apturl [12:16] ghostcube: I know nothing about that [12:16] damn :) [12:35] why is plasma-desktop reading from the disk every 2-4 refreshes of iotop? === nihui_ is now known as nihui [13:01] Hi, does anyone know which package contains the debug symbols for the folderview widget ? [13:02] (/usr/lib/kde4/plasma_applet_folderview.so) [13:02] Dario_Andres: it's from kdebase as I remember so kdebase-dbg [13:02] oh, right that it is on kdebase-apps... thanks Riddell :) [13:03] Dario_Andres: do you have an opinion on use of apport vs drkonqi? we're considering not using apport during the next development cycle [13:04] nice timing as we are currently discussing how to reduce the duplicate noise that drkonqi is currently causing on bugs.kde.org :-\ [13:05] If I could somehow improve the duplicate handling on the application itself I would say go for it, [13:05] it would surely reduce your work on upstream(kde) crashes... and , if it is done properly, it shouldn't affect bugs.kde.org triagers too much [13:06] Dario_Andres: do duplicates handling in drkonqi? [13:06] I'm not sure how that would work, surely it has to be done by the bug tracker [13:07] DrKonqi implements a list of possible duplicates that the users can check and suggest as duplicates or say that the new crash should be attached to an existant report (kde4.4) [13:07] but people do not read to much and tend to be lazy.... [13:08] + including ~useless~ descriptions... that results in too much noise for devs and triagers [13:09] we are currently working in order to ~force~ the user to check for duplicates (and improve the possible duplicate list, so users will have to check less reports) [13:10] + forcing the users to include "meaningful" descriptions/data [13:16] I'm also currently considering to disable DrKonqi for some KDE4.3 versions.... (so users need to report the crashes manually) [13:18] you mean for 4.3.4? [13:19] no, for older versions [13:19] so the only way to implement that is on the bugzilla server.... [13:19] I have some patch ideas and I have contacted mattr.... but I'm not really sure if it is possible to implement [13:27] is there any software-properties bug you guys would like me to look at in particular? [13:29] amichair: I think you pretty much fixed all the major/well-known bugs a few days ago :) [13:30] JontheEchidna: I still see a few tens of bugs :-( [13:30] a lot of those are for software-properties-gtk [13:31] oh, bug 350017 would be nice to have fixed. (reimplement find best server so it doesn't make it crash) [13:31] Launchpad bug 350017 in software-properties "software-properties-kde crashed with SIGSEGV in QApplicationPrivate::dispatchEnterLeave()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/350017 [13:31] JontheEchidna: yeah, too bad there's no tagging or standard way to write that, it's confusing [13:31] JontheEchidna: ok, I'll take a look [13:31] if I add new Replaces: or Conflicts: after merging, does it need to be mentioned in the changelog? [13:32] that bug description could use some work; I'll edit it [13:32] neversfelde: yes, I add those as new changes rather than listing them as remaining changes [13:32] JontheEchidna: oh, there are also a bunch related to i18n, but I think apachelogger is working on them [13:33] JontheEchidna: but crashes are more interesting :-) [13:33] JontheEchidna: thanks [13:35] * apachelogger is not working on i18n anymore [13:35] sp needs revised internals to make i18n work reliably [13:36] ghostcube: me did apturl [13:36] nhandler: why me, it's always me [13:36] amichair: looking into .gpg [13:37] right [13:37] apachelogger: good morning :-) [13:37] amichair: http://ppa.launchpad.net/apachelogger/ubuntu/dists/karmic/Release.gpg [13:37] is the signing of http://ppa.launchpad.net/apachelogger/ubuntu/dists/karmic/Release [13:37] no key here [13:39] anyhow [13:39] can we please accept that .gpg is no valid file ending for keys and move on [13:39] apachelogger: how about the one before it? I've seen others too [13:39] they are wrong [13:39] if you feel that .gpg should be valid for keys then go report a bug with the freedesktop.org shared mime database [13:40] until then standards imply that .gpg nor .pgp is a valid ending for keys [13:40] apachelogger: I don't care. but unless u can make the world change it's ways, it might be better to provide a useful gui :-/ [13:40] right [13:40] via [13:40] the [13:40] standard [13:40] that has nothing to do with sp [13:40] nor kdelibs [13:41] but everything with the freedesktop.org shared mime database [13:41] that is where .gpg should be added to the endings of key files and not enywhere else [13:41] apachelogger: agreed [13:41] good :) [13:42] * apachelogger sips tea and hands amichair a cookie [13:42] apachelogger: that's good enough for me! [13:45] JontheEchidna: should I ignore everything the reporter said? it doesn't like like he was doing what he said he was doing. === Ash-Fox_ is now known as Ash-Fox [13:45] amichair: for the "find best server" crash? [13:46] JontheEchidna: ya. even his correction seems out of place [13:46] apachelogger: you did apturl ? [13:46] can you may help to get it working in midori [13:46] I have no clue what midori is [13:46] sounds like something fance though [13:46] fancy even [13:47] isn't it an alcoholic beverage? [13:47] amichair: pretty much. Basically if you re-enable the find best server button and try to use it you'll get a lovely crash or at least a pretty funky looking dialog [13:47] an example of QA fail [13:48] JontheEchidna: whatever happened to jwisser? [13:48] dunno [13:48] :( [13:48] eh ? midori is opnsource browse4r [13:48] on webkit gtk port [13:48] #midori is the channel [13:48] http://www.midori-world.com/ [13:49] http://www.twotoasts.de/index.php?/pages/midori_summary.html [13:49] JontheEchidna: speaking of, it looks like nobody tried running sp-kde in non-ascii locale - it crashes and/or corrupts sources.list in various exciting ways... [13:49] ghostcube: if it was KDE based ... you'd have to do nothing :P [13:52] ghostcube: anhyhow, you basically just need an url/uri handler that forwards the URI to apturl [13:52] ah just the man [13:52] jwisser: ahoy! [13:53] apachelogger: Good morning! Sorry I haven't been around. What an I do for you? [13:54] there is some nice dude on the kubuntu-devel mailing list who offered to contribute in promotion, so I though that you might want to make him a general marketing minion :D [13:57] apachelogger: yeah we did a code snippet but apturl-kde tells us ascii codec cant encode string [13:57] apachelogger: Shiny. ::grumbles:: Does this mean I have to join a new mailing list? [13:58] jwisser: well, it is low traffic, but in general it makes sense to be subscribed there, since about everything about the project goes there [13:58] if it ends up on some mailing list at all [13:58] ghostcube: [13:58] ehm [13:58] ghostcube: more information please :) [13:58] hehe i thought this would be the next post [13:58] if you have a bit time you can join #midori [13:58] the devs are there too [14:00] apachelogger: All right, I'll join. In the meantime, does he have an email address? [14:01] jwisser: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2009-November/003516.html [14:01] ghostcube: I dont :P [14:02] hehe so i may bring the dev in here eh ? [14:02] I dont have time [14:02] * apachelogger needs to leave for exam in a bit [14:03] oh ok [14:05] hmmm is this not the wrong url deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu karmic main [14:05] isnt it backports ? [14:05] ghostcube: I changed it to updates, it shouldn't have been backports [14:05] oh ok [14:06] ehm Riddell qt or kde 4.3.3 i meant kde 4.3.3 [14:06] the docu on kubuntu.org its a bit confuing or is it only me ? [14:07] nm [14:07] boah iam stupid === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [14:44] sweet, doing a debuild -nc with dh7 doesn't make cmake go through installing everything again [14:44] (if a build failed during the final package building, etc) [14:47] there are times when you want it to do that though (in which case you have to edit debian/debhelper or whatever it is) [14:48] maybe it would redo all that if you edited something like that? [14:56] hmh, asked in bit wrong channel, so repeat in here: do we have blueprint or wikipage or anything about reasons why KHTML is not enough, as in what doesn't work [14:56] and perhaps what is needed from replacement solution [14:58] I'm stuck with several browsers myself and would like to be useful while trying to find out which is working best in KDE [14:59] something that works with complex websites like slashdot and which is sufficiently integrated with KDE [15:00] webkitkde looks promising, the webkitkde library (not the kpart... yet) is in kdereview [15:00] Riddell: hmm, ok, what doesn't work in slashdot? I know there's been issues with google mail and facebook in some cases [15:00] Riddell: maybe arora with new qt4.6 might cut it this time around.... [15:01] JontheEchidna: no, it's already in kdelibs [15:01] oh. cool! [15:01] JontheEchidna: and Kpart seems to work reasonably with Konqueror too [15:02] qt4.6 with qt webkit brings java support (which was missing from 4.5 and hence our version of arora) [15:02] * Sput thinks arora needs to get at least a decent way to open PDF files and stuff that doesn't require saving them somewhere first [15:02] Sput: yes.. some nicer mime handling would be awesome [15:03] not sucking in plasma when invoked via xdg-open would help too :) [15:03] Sput: I think that's a qt webkit issue though... [15:03] rgreening: Sput: I have Qt 4.6 and Arora built with it, what should I test? [15:03] thats right now my biggest culprits with it [15:03] Tm_T: well, click on a PDF or another file type, I'd expect okular to open, instead I get a download box [15:03] which is *really* annoying [15:03] facebook works better in Konqueror than it does in Arora actually, except for some crashes which might be fixed in 4.3.3 [15:03] Tm_T: java plugin support... see if java (not javascript) works [15:04] facebook is slooow in konqueror w/ khtml [15:04] yuriy: really? I found the opposite... [15:04] and if I click a link in quassel or elsewhere, it's opened in arora, but it stays in the background and plasma's launch indicator spins for half a minute [15:04] rgreening: hmm, I cannot remember seeing java in sites I use, have an example? [15:04] other than that, the webkit stuff works for me (trunk of both qt and arora) [15:04] Tm_T: asobrain (gaming site) try settlers of catan [15:04] roger [15:05] rgreening: really, facebook doesn't work very well in ANY browser, but last i tried FF worked better than Konqi which worked a little better than Arora, but crashed reprodicibly [15:05] yuriy: what doesn't work? [15:06] * Tm_T thinks we really need a wikipage listing these issues etc [15:06] facebook seems to work fine in arora [15:06] Tm_T: don't remember exactly, but some of the ajaxy things would just not show up sometimes [15:06] so do the google apps [15:06] (which I use) [15:06] arora handles gmail better than konq [15:06] It would be nice if the webkit kpart was ready for 10.04, then we wouldn't have to change default browsers at all [15:06] in fact I haven't had any trouble with any webpage in arora trunk [15:06] it's just the missing KDE integration which makes it a sub-par experience [15:06] I'd try rekonq, but that crashes on startup :) [15:07] I think I may be the only one, but Arora has been mostly a disappointment for me [15:07] rekonq is pretty cool, I must say. A bit young though [15:07] we can probably get shtylman to help add more kde'isms to arora :) [15:07] haha [15:07] JontheEchidna: hmm, I'll see if there's known rough spots with Kpart to addition of my simple tests [15:08] yuriy: I think early arora was an issue. But I have been using it religiously and no issues on my system. [15:08] qt 4.5 though... [15:08] I have rottening hardware so I get some random issues... needs couple times tested [15:10] yeah, just make arora integrate better (or at all) with KDE, at least concerning the things that are really annoying... mime type handling, launch feedback, kget support, stuff like that [15:11] Sput: or get Konqueror working better with pages? [15:11] or that [15:11] I would love to see both, actually [15:11] but tbh, I don't expect KHTML getting up to par with the current web anytime soon :/ [15:11] I really like konqueror as a browser [15:11] but it fails on more and more pages [15:11] can't even watch youtube videos properly because it insists showing a stamp-sized flash window [15:12] with the webkit KPart we wouldn't have to give up konqueror [15:12] Sput: well, as said, you can use webkit with Konqueror too, just isn't ready for everyones use, but getting there [15:12] JontheEchidna: indeed [15:12] Tm_T: sure, if that's working properly, I'm fine with that :) [15:12] I'm really being pragmatic when it comes to browsers :) [15:12] which would be a plus in many ways. The least of which being that we don't have to integrate an entire app with KDE while at the same time keeping the status-quo UI-wise [15:13] I'd be glad if someone properly integrated webkit properly in konqueror [15:13] duno why but many wikis work "lighter" (well, only feeling, I havent done any measurements) with khtml, I wonder if it's just khtml not doing everything (: [15:13] Sput: properly? [15:13] well, e.g. it could remember that I've set it to "show in webkit kpart" :) [15:13] Sput: it can, if you set it so [15:13] you have to change KDE's mimetype handling for it to stick [15:13] didn't work last time I tried [15:14] also it randomly didn't even offer the option until being restarted [15:14] Sput: ah, when was that? [15:14] can't compile webkit-kpart currently since it collides with kdelibs, so I can't try now :) [15:14] dunno, few months ago [15:15] Sput: ok, I'm running "current trunk" so we'll see if it applies here [15:15] yeah I'm too [15:15] but no webkit-kpart, since it conflicts with the lib that just went into kdelibs [15:15] Sput: and all that has been building fine here all the time btw, what issue you have? [15:15] should be fixed soon enough, I hope [15:16] libkdewebkit.so is in kdelibs now [15:16] and? [15:16] so it shouldn't be installed by webkit-kpart anymore [15:16] yeah, though it's same but yeah [15:16] yeah, prolly just a build system fix [15:16] but bad timing as I cannot try currently :) [15:17] my package manager complains loudly about file collisions, and I don't really feel like turning that off :) [15:17] Sput: have to add check to kpart build, which kdelibs one have, and that'll fix it [15:17] would be great [15:18] and appreciated :) [15:18] I believe it's left there to make it usable with older kdelibs too so it won't go away just yet, but check if it's needed would do it, hmmmmm [15:52] apachelogger: do you want us to discuss https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-lucid-bug-triage-policy at UDS ? do you plan to write it as a spec sometime? [15:54] Riddell: the spec wiki page is pretty much done [15:55] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/LucidBugTriagePolicy [15:55] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/LucidBugTriagePolicy [15:56] is empty [15:56] where did it go... [15:56] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/BugTriagePolicyLucid [15:56] that's the one [15:57] that's what people get for making up wiki page schemeas without asking me for authorisation :) [15:58] Riddell: Kobby has an open infinote server up if you would like to use it at UDS === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:59] skreech: I take it kobby still doesn't work with the obby server used by ubuntu? [16:01] It's not intended to I think but I can ask. Obby is engineering a new more flexible forward thinking protocol [16:01] Kobby is intended to use that one [16:01] I'll see if there is a plugin for Obbyx protocol though [16:09] rgreening: does kubuntu-lucid-touchpad-config need a session at UDS? [16:09] you seem to have the spec already written so is there anything to discuss? [16:10] Riddell: ooh, a touchpad config? [16:10] that's something we want to do soon as well. [16:11] Riddell: I took a stab at the spec... doesn't necessarily mean it's all covered or agreed though.. JontheEchidna, what do you think? Since you have been working with the author of the tp config kcm module [16:11] we could cooperate. [16:11] looks like it needs a UI design. I don't know what the technical limitations are (spec mentions xinput) [16:12] wstephenson: initially, I have planned to write a seperate app, though it looks like there is a KDE one ported to now use xinput, trhough not yet upstreamed to KDE... [16:12] ok, so not using that old libqsynaptics then [16:12] http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/kcm_touchpad?content=113335 <- the app in question [16:12] we could colab on ideas... [16:12] that's the one we're packagaing atm [16:13] the spec here still mentions making our own: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Specs/LucidTouchpadConfigKDE [16:13] perhaps it needs updated? [16:13] I think we prob should still discuss at UDS. Riddell, if the app linked above can get upstreamed to KDE< then that would be our goal. If it cannot, then we should write something we can upstream to KDE. [16:14] gotta dash now, but i'll keep an eye on it [16:14] rgreening: ok will do === wstephenson is now known as _wstephenson [16:15] * rgreening hopes we can assist auther in getting the package suitable for upstream into KDE [16:15] well, it's too late for 4.4 for upstreaming. But on a comment lower down he does say he has interest in getting it into KDE [16:15] I don't even know what needs configuring, my touchpad works fine :) [16:16] Riddell: advanced options, multi-touch, sensitivity, you name it... [16:16] * JontheEchidna whips up a kcm-touchpad package for revu [16:16] Riddell: for 90% it prob works ok. ... the other 10%, not so much... and having the ability to fine tune would be useful... [16:17] also, being able to enable or disable the virtual scrollbar in the tp, and even to enable/disable it for when typing is configuarble... [16:18] oh, has anyone used daisy plasma applet.. its awesome === firephoto_ is now known as firephoto === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [18:07] jussi01: you'll be attending Kubuntu themed sessions at UDS? === lln_ is now known as lln [18:44] Riddell: all implemented [18:45] besides, dr. konqi does not have a whole lot with bug triage to do TBH [18:45] apachelogger: what's implemented? [18:47] Riddell: the bug triage policy [18:47] JontheEchidna and started applying the changes some days ago [18:48] actually, JontheEchidna did, I just tried to move stuff into the right packages :D [18:54] oh hi [18:55] Lucid Lynx works \o/ (in Virtualbox) [18:55] well, I'm getting back to work when I get my new machine, that would be this Thursday, I assume that deploying a working evn will take less than 2 hours :P [18:56] plasma is quite crashy in lucid, due to Qt 4.6. I'll assume that it'll away in KDE 4.4 [18:57] but then again it's pre-alpha :P [18:57] Qt 4.6 is out? [18:57] 4.6 beta [18:57] ah [18:57] hmm just wondering, what's the point of adding my microblogs to Akonadi? [19:01] jussi01, shtylman: I included you in an e-mail, gmail doesn't like my mail server so check your spam if you havn't got it [19:02] Could not install kde-i18n-ru 4:4.3.3-0ubuntu1~ppa1 on mailing list -> I guess it's an overwrite issue once more (russian errors FTW!) [19:03] skreech and Riddell: I asked and we'll be using the older obby at UDS, so no Kobby. [19:04] :/ [19:07] Riddell: which email? [19:08] jussi01: "Team Kubuntu" [19:08] Ahh, yeah, I got it, thanks! [19:08] ScottK: :( [19:08] jussi01: did it arrive in your inbox or in your spam? [19:08] inbox [19:09] oh good, maybe google likes my server now [19:09] jussi01: The inifinote stuff doesn't exist except in Karmic, so I think it's reasonable so people still on earlier releases can play. [19:10] ScottK: is there a version of Kobby that plays with that obby? [19:12] Riddell: i think "Kubuntu Krew" makes more sense :) [19:12] apachelogger: the docs will be still translated in LP or we are moving with them somewhere else? [19:12] jussi01: afaik, kobby is only for the new libinfity version [19:12] * Quintasan would like to get to upstream translators [19:13] shtylman: :P [19:14] jussi01: No [19:14] Need to use Gobby still [19:15] :( [19:16] what command tells me the distro version? [19:16] !version [19:16]