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Cyber-Dogganyone have a repository up with the .22 release?00:34
superm1Cyber-Dogg, mythbuntu.org/auto-builds00:35
Cyber-Doggah... thanks :-)00:35
superm1the stable release on there is 0.22 fixes00:35
superm1so actually a few commits after 0.22 release00:35
Cyber-Doggoh ok00:35
Cyber-Dogghow about... a repo that would have the newest nvidia drivers?01:16
Cyber-DoggI have 185 installed right now01:17
Cyber-Doggbut I'm having some issues with mythtv and I saw some info on the bug logs that 190 fixes them01:17
Cyber-Doggor may anyway...01:17
superm1Cyber-Dogg, that's on it's way, it will be that same repo when the stuff is ready01:19
Cyber-Doggok01:20
Cyber-Doggnow... just to be clear... I didn't install mythbuntu's release01:20
Cyber-DoggI installed ubuntu and then added mythtv01:20
Cyber-Doggwill that matter?01:20
Cyber-DoggI don't have a detailed understanding of how the repos work01:21
hadsAnyone clued up on Xauth type stuff?01:26
superm1Cyber-Dogg, that's fine still01:36
hadsFor some reason on this new install I can't SSH in and do `DISPLAY=:0 xset q` for example.01:40
hadsThough I can on every other box I have here.01:40
AndroktasieHey, it's me again from last night.  I'm still having issues opening liveTV on a fresh 9.10 install.  I've documented everything that I touched to reproduce this error on an AMD64 box, though it also fails on i386.  These same steps worked fine for me with 9.04.  Steps (and fetched logs) are here.  Any help would be greatly appreciated, I know you guys already pour a lot of time into this as...01:40
Androktasie...is.  http://www.herebetwig.com/pub/temp/mythbuntu910fail.html01:40
mrandAndroktasie: Good documentation job.  I don't have many ideas - main one is to try and verify if your capture device works outside of myth (either with mplayer or vlc or even just cat on the capture device).  Auto, try making the sleep time longer on the channel changer?02:12
mrandbbl02:12
Androktasiemrand: thanks for the suggestions, but "vlc /dev/video0" works and the program fails even with sleep at 3 or when using the .pl script instead of .sh02:14
hads!daily02:21
ZinnSorry I don't know about daily02:21
hads!daily%02:21
ZinnSorry I don't know about daily%02:21
hads!help02:21
Zinn!help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].02:21
tgm4883OT: anyone know of a program to get DV files off of a video camera?02:21
tgm4883I plan on using it with KDenLive02:21
tgm4883I used to use Kino to get it off of there, but I don't want to have to install more than I need to02:22
Androktasiesince i don't really which component the bug is in, should I bother submitting a bug report?  submit a forum post?  or will the devs see my issue here in the chat logs okay and go from there?02:25
hadsWhy does the autobuilds PPA want to install mythtv-theme-blootube-osd and mythtv-theme-projectgrayhem-osd02:27
OpenMediahads: I'm having the same issues with XAuth02:34
OpenMediaAny luck?02:34
OpenMediaI had to run "xhost +local:" as the local desktop user, and then over remote ssh setting "DISPLAY=:0.0" worked.02:35
hadsOpenMedia: `xauth merge /var/run/gdm/auth-for-hads-*/database` will fix it. I don't know what's changed to need that though.02:35
bubba_can anyone help me with jamu?02:39
hadsOpenMedia: That's from an SSH session.02:48
hadsOpenMedia: So it's possible to fix it remotely but it will need to be done each time GDM is restarted.02:48
hadsI'm sure there's a way to fix it properly but I don't know what it is yet.02:48
LR78I'm trying to identify the choke point causing choppy playback.  Setup:  HD-PVR connected to a backend machine with a diskless frontend.  Livetv playback is smooth for the most part, but chokes on what I assume is high bitrate video (checkerboard patterns, water) etc...02:50
LR78backend and frontend are both AMD Athlon 64 X2 2.3GHz's, 2gb ram, onboard nvidia geforce 7050.02:56
LR78backend storage drives formatted in ext303:08
rhpot1991http://www.techbargains.com/news_displayItem.cfm/184561?r1=103:14
rhpot1991silent vdpau capable card for dirt cheap03:14
rhpot1991not sure what deinterlacers it can handle though03:14
OpenMediahads: Cheers..03:27
Androktasiek, well i just submitted my livetv bug to the tracker.  i guess ill just keep an eye on that and downgrade back to 9.0403:32
gwillakershello, does anyone know how mythtv 9.10 starts the x11vnc service?  I need to change it's start-up options.03:49
OpenMediasuperm1: Are there plans for a release of 0.22 GM in the vanilla repository for 9.10?03:56
hadsI think they are doing an SRU at some stage04:01
OpenMediahads: SRU?04:03
superm1OpenMedia, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates04:05
hadsStable Release Update04:05
styelzello!06:11
styelzi um, just cleared out my channels and did a full rescan, (using HDHRun) and now I cant get the backend setup to scan it crashes the setup app at around 53% into the scan. anyone got any hints06:13
styelzif i remove my HDHR and just use my 2 pci encoders, its fine.06:13
styelzim using latest firmware in the HDHR06:14
styelzand myth 0.22 9.1006:14
styelztime to pull out the backup06:15
hadsHmm. Going with just storage groups kinda messing things up if the internal player can't play something properly.07:44
hadsCool, adding a vdpaubuffersize=35 option to my playback profile seems to have fixed the h264 problems I was seeing07:58
hadsThe downside seems to be higher video RAM usage but that shouldn't be an issue in this box.08:01
hadsThat has fixed the issue that I was seeing with both software decode and VDPAU playback. I guess the CPU wasn't quite fast enough to decode those streams either.08:04
hadsThat makes me happy.08:04
hadsFor future reference, the symptoms were blocking on h264 (in mkv but that bit is probably irrelavant) and "GetNextFreeFrame() served a busy frame n. Dropping." in the logs.08:06
ruskiehttp://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/11/10/review_accessories_glidetv_navigator/ <-- cute10:34
* Essobi whispers 'Anger is a gift.'15:18
mrandhads: thanks for the pointer, I'll try to remember that.  Looks like from http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6130 markk hopes this kind of thing isn't permanent.15:40
mishehuEssobi: but don't give a knife or a gun as a gift to somebody gifted with anger16:43
Essobiheh16:44
Essobiyou running 22?16:44
EssobiI need to update my bawx at home.16:44
mishehuEssobi: I converted my box to 9.10 last week17:24
mishehuso I believe I am running 0.2217:24
mishehuI'm still waiting for my hauppage hvr 2250 to be in the mainstream kernel17:25
EssobiAh17:30
EssobiI'm too broke to afford haupps.17:30
mishehuI am using the devel branch of v4l17:30
mishehubecause the stable hasn't changed17:30
EssobiI've got some of those shitty framegrabbers and a few motorola fwire stbs..17:30
mishehuand after a couple days the hvr craps out and it floods syslog17:30
Essobipuch17:30
Essobiouch17:31
mishehuand floods the drive then after about 2 days of those logs.17:31
mishehuhoping the devel branch and the newer kernel that's in 9.10 take care of those issues17:31
mishehuEssobi: it was only about $120 I think (or less) for the 225017:31
Shred00i notice that with 0.22 there is a new cronjob installed on all of the FE machines:17:53
Shred00/etc/cron.hourly/mythvideo17:53
Shred00does this create data local to the FE or is the data in the database?  iow, does every FE really need to run this?17:53
superm1it doesn't do anything on frontend only installs18:10
superm1it only does stuff if there is a backend18:11
superm1really it should live on the master backend only imo, but its shipped from the mythvideo contrib/ stuff, so in the mythvideo package18:11
tgm4883superm1, shouldn't it exist in all backends?18:13
superm1na, jamu really only needs to run once per network18:13
superm1it doesnt hurt to run it in more places18:13
tgm4883i see18:14
tgm4883does jamu add new videos?18:14
tgm4883or just get metadata for existing ones?18:14
superm1metadata only i thoughts18:15
tgm4883probably18:15
Shred00yeah.  i was wondering if it should be master backend only as well18:25
Shred00as it is, it's included in the mythvideo which means it runs on all of the FEs18:27
Shred00doing unnecessary work, yes, but more importantly, I wonder what happens if two FEs race18:27
superm1well it won't do anything if mythbackend isn't installed18:28
Shred00on a FE you mean?18:28
superm1Yeah18:28
superm1so you'll only see potential problems if you have slave backend/fe combos18:28
Shred00which i do have.18:29
Raidenevening18:55
=== Raiden is now known as Guest88563
=== Guest88563 is now known as Raiden24
Raiden24can somebody help me with my mythbuntu and NFS share problem ?18:56
Raiden24I have a mythbuntu box that accesses a nfs share on another server where the movies are located. The shares mount perfectly, and I can manually play the movies via vlc. But mythtv does not see those movies ...18:58
Raiden24the share is 777 for test, and the locally mountdirs are configured in frontend and backend18:58
Raiden24before I changed it to 777 perms it kept complaining about write-permissions in the backend log18:59
Raiden24Do I need to scan that movie dir ? Ihave mythbuntu based on 9.1018:59
Raiden24there, basically my problem :)18:59
Raiden24ok this is embarrass19:08
Raiden24ok this is embarissing :D19:08
Raiden24I didn't find the scan options in the frontend earlier, read the mythtv transition guide, and poof there are the movies19:09
Raiden24anyway its solved. I hope I entertained everyone :D19:09
* Raiden24 bows19:09
EssobiHmm.. think I can run two lamgrabbers and a firewire STB off the same backend box... somewhat decent P4?  3Ghz IIRC..19:42
ubuntu__is here somebody how speaks german?19:42
ubuntu__my probblem: i haven't a mysql database?19:43
ubuntu__what should i enter when i start mythtv?19:44
ubuntu__sorry i mean fronted!19:44
mrandubuntu__: make sure that mythtv-backend-master package is installed.  Mythbuntu-control-centre should allow you to do that, or else you can use synaptic or apt-get.19:45
ubuntu__but i'm in the live system!19:45
mrandoh, you've booted the live CD?19:45
ubuntu__yes! i wnt to test mythbuntu 9.10!19:46
ubuntu__it looks better than 9.0419:46
mrandThe live CD does not have a backend or sql database.  It is designed for two purposes: (1) act as a frontend only   -or-   (2) install Mythbuntu on a drive19:46
ubuntu__can i install mythtv in my existing ubuntu system?19:47
ubuntu__or should i install mythbuntu in virtualbox?19:48
mrand!existing | ubuntu_19:48
Zinnubuntu_: http://www.mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu19:48
mrandYou can also install in a virtualbox if you'd like.19:48
mrandEither way.19:48
ubuntu__yes i install it ^^19:49
ubuntu__my name later is _peter_19:49
ubuntu__bye19:50
mrandgood luck!19:50
mrandPhew.  It's hard to type slowly so non-native speakers can understand you.19:50
hadsmrand: Yeah, regarding that VDPAU buffers thing, that ticket and changeset [22132] helped me figure it out.20:00
hadsConfused me for a while since the problem was with software decode too.20:01
mrandI don't have high-def, so no need for VDPAU, yet.20:05
hadsThe deinterlacers are nice either way.20:12
hadsI don't get high-def broadcasts either20:12
mrandmy current picture quality is so poor, I wouldn't gain any benefit of good deinterlacers.  I'm using a VGA to composite converter.  I can barely stand it on some dark scenes.20:13
hadsBummer20:16
whoDat_mrand: you need to make a visit to best buy ;)20:16
_peter_i am back!20:41
_peter_i must restart!20:42
mrandIndeed.  I'm paranoid about spending a lot of money on a tv I'll end up being unhappy with though.   Which means I need to spend even more to make sure I get something good.20:43
mrandWhich means I'm even more paranoid about spending money on a tv I'll be unhappy with.  So that pretty much leaves me having to buy the top-of-the-line.  And I'm too cheap to do that right now :-)20:43
Raiden24ttyal20:51
darrenhi all, i've attempted an upgrade to mythbuntu 9.10 to get mythtv .22, however i've been having a lot of issues getting my video card to work.  i would rather just upgrade the mythtv install in my existing 9.04 install as thats been working excellently for some time.  i have so far been unable to work out if there is any way to use synaptic to perform this upgrade or if i need to completely remove .21 and compile .22 from s22:38
superm1darren, mythbuntu.org/auto-builds22:41
hadsYay, just got 3 x 2TB drives23:01
darrensuperm1: i tried adding the autobuilds package, and set it up, but once i upgraded repos and tried to run the update manager it told me it had to do a partial upgrade and would not allow some of the components to be installed.  i didn't want to go ahead incase this broke my existing install.  is this normal?23:02
superm1darren, that's normal23:02
superm1look at what it tries to do23:02
superm1it's because it has to add a few packages, not remove a bunch23:02
darrengreat.23:06
darrenone other question i have, and there may not be a way around this, but every time i update the kernel (which seems to be quite often in update manager) my tv capture card drivers (which aren't natively supported, i need to compile the driver manually) needs to be reinstalled with a make distclean.  is there any way to avoid this, or tell it not to do kernel updates?23:08
OpenMediahads: Nice.. Going to use RAID?23:15
mranddarren: you can pin or lock any package (including the package which pulls the kernel)23:19
darrenmrand: thanks, i'll look into that.  i guess the only problem is, not running the latest kernel might have security implications23:20
mranddarren: possible, but relatively minor in the grand scheme of things (like that people tend to park on an install for a long time.)23:22
hadsOpenMedia: I've decided against RAID actually. I'm going to backup/sync more often and go with single disks. These are replacing a 4 x 500 RAID523:51
hadsOpenMedia: I sorted the blocking issue with h264 we talked about the other day.23:53
hadsOpenMedia: It seems it's only playable with VDPAU and by adding vdpaubuffersize=35 (an increase). Which means that my CPU may have been slightly under powered to decode those particular streams. See bug #6130 for more detail23:55
ZinnBug 6130 in quixote (Ubuntu) "quixote: merge new debian version" [Medium, Fix Released] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/613023:55
hadsNo Zinn, mythtv bug.23:55

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