[00:00] <erUSUL> !undelete | marltu
[00:00] <resno_> i currently have a dual boot. windows xp and linux. i want to reinstall the linux, should it cause any problems with windows?
[00:00] <ngirard> Hi all. I've just finished installing ubuntu on a new laptop. I'm now wondering how to get my data from my old hard disk to my new one. The old /home is an ext3 partition which I access via usb, and the user id has changed (was 501, now 1000). What would you advice me ? Copy then chown -R ?
[00:00] <erUSUL> resno_: should not
[00:00] <Jeruvy> resno_: no, but thats no excuse not to backup first :)
[00:00] <furuno> resno_ : nope
[00:01] <tonyyarusso> What's the difference between the ubuntu-desktop metapackage and the ubuntu-desktop task?
[00:01] <resno_> grub will be able to pick up everything?
[00:01] <erUSUL> ngirard: that would work
[00:01] <furuno> resno_ : yes
[00:01] <tonyyarusso> ngirard: Or chown then copy; either way should be fine.
[00:01] <resno_> sweet. :) thanks furuno Jeruvy erUSUL
[00:01] <furuno> resno_ : I;ve just did it recently, switching from Fedora 12 beta to Ubuntu KK
[00:01] <tonyyarusso> seth_: I don't think Empathy does e-mail notification.
[00:02] <ace_> I'm trying to setup my phone on bitpim. How can I find out what port my phone is on? Bitpim is not detecting it with automatic detection
[00:02] <seth_> weak
[00:02] <ngirard> erUSUL, tonyyarusso : Hi there. Isn't there a magical option to mount.ext3 that would translate the old user id to the new one, by chance ?
[00:03] <tonyyarusso> ngirard: maybe
[00:03] <erUSUL> ngirard: no; but chowning is fast and there is no dwonsides (we are not talking chmod here and this are not system files). just "chown -R $USER:$USER folder/"
[00:04] <JoshuaP0x2> when I ping my ubuntu machine it resolves to the public IP address
[00:04] <JoshuaP0x2> from another machine
[00:04] <London90> JoeSomebody: If you pick the largest free space then windows and anything else you have installed will be fine. It will only empty space.
[00:04] <Dreams> yessss ubuntu finally understands my laptop webcam in 9.10! all hw is now officially supported
[00:04] <Dreams> i luvvvvv ubuntu
[00:05] <Cool_Guy> i still love my ubuntu 9.04 :P
[00:05] <Dreams> i upgraded today
[00:05] <furuno> me too, 9.04 *much* more stable for my h/w
[00:05] <Dreams> from 9.04, which i also loved :p
[00:05] <JoeSomebody> ok thx
[00:05] <seth_> I am using ubuntu K.K.: How do I set my keyring to auto-login and stop asking me for the password?
[00:05] <Industrial> I have some keybindings in compiz that let me switch to a specific workspace in gnome that are also defined in the gnome keybinds interface (apparently). I can't seem to get these keys to work with the 'Desktop Wall' however they do work with the Cube. I don't want the Cube (because it cant handle a 3x3 workspace grid, only #x1). Is there any solution for this?
[00:05] <ace_> What command do I use to find out what port a USB device is on?
[00:05] <ngirard> erUSUL: Yeah, fair enough. I'll keep it simple. erUSUL, tonyyarusso : thank you guys for your feedback !
[00:05] <furuno> Industrial : how about the wall?
[00:06] <furuno> ace_ : lsusb
[00:06] <tonyyarusso> ngirard: I know some things allow mapping by username rather than ID, but I think that might be an NFS thing or something.
[00:06] <soreau> Industrial: What keybindings specifically?
[00:06] <Doorman352> anyone recomend a good how to for Ubuntu/Samba in a windows 2003 network with active directory.
[00:06] <ace_> furuno, I tried that but I don't know how to tell the ports
[00:07] <night1ne> Okay, where exactly do I get pasuspender?
[00:07] <ngirard> tonyyarusso: yes, probably. I remember such kind of option existed but couldn't find it on the mount side. Thanks again
[00:08] <furuno> ace_ : try cd to /dev and inspect ttyUSBX with cat, e.g. cat ttyUSB0
[00:08] <the_dark_warrio> Jeruvy: Hey, my printer is working now ;-) Thanks for all!
[00:08] <ace_> furuno, ok, I'll try. Here is what I got from lsusb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/314635/
[00:08] <Industrial> soreau: mod4+1 though = and with shift for moving windows
[00:09] <seth_> I am using ubuntu K.K.: I have it set to log me in automatically, but the keyring popup still shows up.  How do I set my keyring to auto-login and stop asking me for the password?
[00:09] <Jeruvy> the_dark_warrio: good to hear.
[00:09] <furuno> ace_ : what device are you trying to find?
[00:09] <Industrial> soreau: more specifically; the wall also doesnt list these keybinds while the cube does.
[00:09] <innomen> Is there anyway to forceably unmount and spin down a hard drive? hdparm seems to not be working
[00:09] <ace_> LG9100 cell phone
[00:09] <nicolas> just updated to Karmic via terminal now cant boot, unable to find my HD - any suggestions?
[00:10] <ace_> furuno, LG 9100 cell phone
[00:11] <soreau> Industrial: I'm pretty sure you can do the same keybindings with either/both if you set them right
[00:11] <soreau> Industrial: For Cube, you probably want to look in the Rotate Cube plugin as opposed to Desktop Cube
[00:12] <zack> Hi
[00:12] <logicport> anyone else have that banding on graphics especially gradients?
[00:12] <Industrial> soreau: i dont want the cube :p I cant find/get it with the wall.
[00:12] <zack> anyone can help me with external hard drive?
[00:12] <soreau> Industrial: Ah, well can you please ask in #compiz?
[00:12] <furuno> !ask | zack
[00:12] <Industrial> soreau: sure
[00:13] <thiebaude> Industrial, ypu trying to have the cube with the wall?
[00:13] <Industrial> no.
[00:13] <nicolas> fresh karmic upgrade cant find find any of my HDs to boot from
[00:13] <ace_> furuno, it's the first one listed in that paste bin that I listed. But I can't tell what the port is
[00:13] <furuno> ace_ : have you checked the /dev ?
[00:13] <ace_> Yes
[00:14] <zack> ok. I don't have access to my ex hard drive, and the disk utility show fat32 when II remember formating it to NTFS.
[00:14] <ace_> I CD /dev and it shows the same output
[00:14] <benc1> how do I add a folder to the path?
[00:15] <erUSUL> benc1: PATH=$PATH:/new/folder/path
[00:15] <erUSUL> benc1: put it in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile
[00:15] <benc1> erUSUL: I looked at ~/.bashrc but didn't see the word path
[00:16] <todkon> I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 with Openbox 3.4.7.2 and for some reason Openbox will not load up my workspace/desktop settings, does anyone know how to resolve this?
[00:16] <criss> hi guys
[00:16] <erUSUL> benc1: well you may be inheriting the machine's default ( /etc/environment )
[00:16] <erUSUL> benc1: if you want to tweak it do as i said
[00:16] <furuno> !hi | criss
[00:17] <delaman> trying to compile GnuCash 2.3.7 and i get this error http://pastebin.com/m35ad6b40 ,,, A GnuCash developer told me the problem is with the goffice on Ubuntu side.
[00:17] <nicolas> Just upgraded to Karmic and it will not boot due to no Hard Drives being found, know a place to start?
[00:17] <criss> i would like to know which browser i can install on ubuntu 6.06.1 ... at the moment the default one keeps asking to install missing plugins and then can't install it for firefox ...
[00:18] <erUSUL> !dapper
[00:19] <seth_> I am using ubuntu K.K.: I have it set to log me in automatically, but the keyring popup still shows up.  How do I set my keyring to auto-login and stop asking me for the password?
[00:19] <benc1> erUSUL: do I need to restart afterwards?
[00:19] <[0xAH]RedCat> hello
[00:19] <erUSUL> benc1: if its in  ~/.bashrc it will take effect in new launched terminals iirc
[00:19] <erUSUL> benc1: log in and out to make sure
[00:19] <StrangeCharm> i have two displays, using twinview on 9.10. whenever i maximise a window, it jumps accross both screens. when a new window pops up, it always appears split over the two displays. how can i change these behaviours?
[00:19] <benc1> thanks
[00:20] <ZykoticK9> seth_, if you turn autologic off and login normally - it won't ask you for the keyring password, it's a cache22 -- i think you have to type you password one way or the other.  good luck man.
[00:20] <erUSUL> benc1: well out and in again ;P
[00:20] <m1dlg> how do i change the folder mermissions of a usb flash drive? anychanges made seem to fail
[00:20] <krsna> any suggestions as how to enable swfdec? i installed the package swfdec-mozilla but it does not work..
[00:20] <Jeruvy> StrangeCharm: disable twinview.
[00:21] <seth_> ZykotiK9, that would really suck if true.  I never used to have to log in with ubuntu J
[00:21] <furuno> mldlg : in a vat file system?
[00:21] <StrangeCharm> Jeruvy, isn't that like solving the problem 'my arm itches' with 'cut off your arm' ?
[00:21] <furuno> mldlg : I don't tink vfat support it
[00:21] <m1dlg> it's fat32
[00:21] <m1dlg> ok
[00:22] <m1dlg> that kinds of why the sharing fails then
[00:22] <Jeruvy> StrangeCharm: thats how twinview works.  Don't like it then either resize windows normally or don't use twinview.
[00:22] <furuno> mldlg : but, if you don't want somebody to acces your files from windows, try naminb the folder "con"
[00:22] <furuno> mldlg : pretty funny
[00:22] <erUSUL> m1dlg: permissions/ownership on vfat fs are "faked" at mount time following mount options or fstab
[00:22] <m1dlg> furuno, i do, but it doesn't work.
[00:23] <erUSUL> m1dlg: the same in ntfs
[00:23] <ZykoticK9> StrangeCharm, twinview should NOT be maximizing windows across both screens - this is NOT working as intended!  are you using gnome or another windows manager?
[00:23] <StrangeCharm> Jeruvy, it is not how twinview worked under 9.04: things behaved as desired.
[00:23] <rengil> is it possible to hibernate by commandline, instead of using the icon? what is the command?
[00:23] <StrangeCharm> ZykoticK9, i'm using gnome
[00:23] <ZykoticK9> StrangeCharm, FYI my twinview 9.10 is working properly
[00:23] <m1dlg> furuno, i'm going to create a folder on desktop instead, i'm trying to view /access a .exe that can't run under wine
[00:24] <erUSUL> rengil: s2ram or s2disk ...
[00:24] <m1dlg> i need to run it under virualbox /wxor 7
[00:24] <furuno> hmm, I wonder, what kind of panel that looks good if placed on left (vertical) instead of those KDE panel? I have a dual monitor setup and would like to have the panel at the leftmost of my setup, any suggestions?
[00:24] <Jeruvy> ZykoticK9: what is your solution?  I'd like to hear it.
[00:24] <erUSUL> !info uswsusp | rengil
[00:24] <furuno> something like in Win 7
[00:24] <ZykoticK9> Jeruvy, StrangeCharm it worked "out of the box" for me?
[00:24] <erUSUL> !awn
[00:25] <StrangeCharm> ZykoticK9, maybe i need a better box
[00:25] <furuno> erUSUL : but at the left side of the screen :)
[00:25] <ZykoticK9> StrangeCharm, are you running compiz?
[00:26] <furuno> maybe a customized tint2 will do...
[00:26] <StrangeCharm> ZykoticK9, i have visual effects set to 'normal' in appearance preferences
[00:26] <behappy> its possible to interprate javascript on shell ?
[00:27] <erUSUL> behappy: dwonload a stanalone interpreter ... it has to be something out there
[00:27] <erUSUL> standalone
[00:27] <istvan> i just deleted a file while sudo'd - where can i empty that trash?
[00:27] <ZykoticK9> StrangeCharm, i just tested on mine and with both compiz and metacity windows maximized correctly to only 1 screen - i run into issues with 2 screens when running games etc but not with "regular" windows -- what are you running that is centered?
[00:28] <JoeSomebody> Anditosan you still here?
[00:28] <furuno> behappy : something like this > http://www.mozilla.org/rhino/ ?
[00:28] <JoeSomebody> i reinstalled, same problem, no boot menu
[00:28] <erUSUL> !info spidermonkey-bin | behappy
[00:28] <behappy> erUSUL, stanalone interpreter what is it ?
[00:29] <JoeSomebody> how do i create a boot menu?
[00:29] <StrangeCharm> ZykoticK9, everything: the lock screen prompt, the root password prompt, every window.
[00:29] <erUSUL> behappy: an interpreter not integrated on a web browser
[00:29] <erUSUL> s/on/in/g
[00:29] <ZykoticK9> StrangeCharm, does your twinview survive reboot or do you have to enable it each time you restart?
[00:30] <StrangeCharm> ZykoticK9, i've never restarted
[00:30] <ZykoticK9> StrangeCharm, i'm done - best of luck to you (this is my strong suggestion to reboot)
[00:30] <JFactor> Hello, I have a samsung scx-4200 printer, I have just got the printer working however I can't use the scanner, ubuntu wont pick it up, I am using 9.10
[00:31] <JFactor> can anyone help me to install the scanner?
[00:31] <StrangeCharm> ZykoticK9, i have a sneaking suspicion that things are going to get mounted wrong, but here goes nothing
[00:32] <gnubie> JFactor;   http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-SAMSUNG
[00:33] <JoeSomebody> anyone, my boot menu is missing twice now, how do i create one?
[00:34] <istvan> i just deleted a file while sudo'd - where can i empty that trash?
[00:34] <erUSUL> behappy: spidermonkey-bin works here (the interpreter is smjs )
[00:34] <furuno> istvan : I don't think it will leave a trace if you use the delete / rm command
[00:34] <behappy> erUSUL, I need to install firefox ??
[00:35] <randomusr> hello
[00:35] <furuno> behappy : since it's standalone, I don't think so
[00:35] <furuno> !hi | randomusr
[00:35] <istvan> furuno: i has in sudo nautilus doing some stuff, and i just did move to trash - but i can't find such a trash
[00:35] <erUSUL> behappy: no only depends on libc6 (>= 2.4), libmozjs0d (>= 1.8.1.5), libreadline5 (>= 5.2)
[00:35] <randomusr> is there a software utility to allow me to disable my touchpad ?
[00:35] <furuno> istvan : in sudo'd nautilus, try this location : trash:///
[00:36] <erUSUL> !gksudo
[00:36] <istvan> mk, thanks, will check it out
[00:36] <bibinou> i have not grub package installed, weird ?
[00:36] <randomusr> Nevermind, answered my own question
[00:36] <bibinou> *no
[00:36] <behappy> erUSUL, where can I download spidermonkey-bin ?
[00:36] <bibinou> no grub, no grub-pc, no grub2
[00:37] <down9-04> !seen ajavid
[00:37] <AaronM> ajavid n=ajavid@frostedweb.com was last seen Mon Nov  9 02:39:47 2009 joining #ubuntu
[00:37] <istvan> furuno: if i go to trash:/// in normal nautilus it works, but sudo'd it can't find that location
[00:37] <furuno> behappy : sudo apt-get install spidermonkey-bin
[00:37] <JFactor> I checked out the site and it does not have support for the scx-4200
[00:37] <erUSUL> behappy: is in the repositories
[00:37] <erUSUL> !software | behappy
[00:38] <alkx4444> hi.
[00:39] <JoeSomebody> how do i create a boot menu? is this do-able?
[00:39] <furuno> !hi | alkx4444
[00:39] <alkx4444> I'm new here, but not new to ubuntu.
[00:39] <furuno> JoeSomebody : try : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[00:39] <fcuk112>  /whois DanaG
[00:40] <JoeSomebody> furuno ok thanks
[00:40] <randomusr> what's the default runevel in 9.04?
[00:40] <furuno> randomusr : N 2
[00:40] <alephant> Hi all
[00:40] <furuno> randomusr : oops, it's on 9.10 :|
[00:41] <furuno> !hi | alephant
[00:41] <codeshah> hey guys, I am wondering what you use as a text editor - I am in UBUNTU and using PHP/JS together is proving to be a pain at times . I am using vim. is there like a dreamweaver or something like Ubuntu and php/js?
[00:41] <furuno> cadeshah : try Bluefish
[00:41] <randomusr> furuno, i thought that runlevel 3 was the default?
[00:41] <furuno> cadeshah : I like to use 3 Scite at once personally
[00:41] <alkx4444> please may i have someones support on ubuntu brainstorm?: [URL=http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/22330/][IMG]http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/22330/image/1/[/IMG][/URL]
[00:41] <erUSUL> !html | codeshah
[00:41] <furuno> I mean, codeshah
[00:42] <alkx4444> damn it!!!
[00:42] <alephant> easy question: I added a PPA URI to my sources.list, and did an apt-get update with no problem.  But apt-get install <package> wants to get it from Canonical.  Is there a way to specify the repositoy from which a package is to be installed?
[00:42] <erUSUL> codeshah: people talk well about quanta+ and bluefish
[00:42] <furuno> haven't got my morning coffee :|
[00:42] <randomusr> ick
[00:42] <alkx4444> i was kinda hopeing that bb code would work here =-(
[00:42] <alephant> Am I missing something obvious?
[00:42] <furuno> alephant : try downloading the .deb directly and double click to install ?
[00:42] <erUSUL> codeshah: check aptana bassed on eclipse (so heavy)
[00:43] <alephant> furuno: Ack.  I might as well git clone and self-compile if I'm going to go that route ;-)
[00:43] <furuno> codeshah : or Komodo IDE/Edit
[00:43] <alephant> furuno: and I'm equally interested in learning how it's supposed to work as getting the actual software installed
[00:43] <The_Man_Behind_t> I can't seem to get wireless working after Karmic upgrade
[00:43] <furuno> alephant : :)
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[00:43] <The_Man_Behind_t> Full details of problem are here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8281491#post8281491
[00:43] <erUSUL> alephant: ppa are hosted at canonical servers and are not mirrored afaik
[00:43] <shatrix> I want to compile the gcc from its source to another system running with arm processor
[00:43] <furuno> alkx4444 : not W3C compliant :)
[00:44] <alkx4444> wat!
[00:44] <alkx4444> :(
[00:44] <shane_2peru> can someone recommend a fully functional netbook for Ubuntu?
[00:44] <StrangeCharm> i seems to have made an arror writing my fstab, and have to manually mount my volumes. what's the correct way to mount volumes in an lvm on an encrypted volume?
[00:44] <erUSUL> shane_2peru: buy the dell 10v with ubuntu preinstalled ??
[00:44] <code> Jaunty gui login does not display, instead get shell access. Tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.
[00:45] <egaudet> what repo is the sun-java6-bin package in?
[00:45] <furuno> shane_2peru : Acer Aspire One / Thinkpad S-10 ?
[00:45] <jwash> hi, i'm curious, is there a remote desktop app for ubuntu which is compatible with windows RDP protocol?
[00:45] <erUSUL> jwash: there are are least two
[00:45] <StrangeCharm> jwash, rdesktop
[00:45] <erUSUL> !info tsclient
[00:45] <VCoolio> egaudet: multiverse
[00:45] <code> pls, any ideas?
[00:45] <alkx4444> I don't mean to spam but I am  non-profit website devo, so please take a look at my website: alkx4444.110mb.com
[00:45] <randomusr> jwash, I believe that terminal service client is
[00:45] <jwash> that would serve a remote session that mstsc.exe in windows could access
[00:45] <shane_2peru> erUSUL, the 10 is bad with linux in general right?  but the 10v is great?
[00:45] <alephant> erUSUL: Sorry, that's not what I meant: when I apt-get <pkg>, it's *appearing* to be the one from the "official" distro repository, not from the PPA which I've added.
[00:45] <shane_2peru> erUSUL, thanks for the tip
[00:45] <luis_>  lado tiene una y por el otro tiene trrrrreeeeee
[00:45] <alephant> jwash: "rdesktop"
[00:46] <furuno> code : try to boot into recovery mode and choose to repair xserver
[00:46] <shane_2peru> furuno, ok, thanks!!!
[00:46] <erUSUL> alephant: did you run the update ?
[00:46] <VCoolio> egaudet: apt-cache policy sun-java6-bin
[00:46] <istvan> so anyone know how I can empty the files from the trash I deleted while in sudo nautilus?
[00:46] <alephant> jwash: oh... you want the server.  Sorry, nevermind :-/
[00:46] <shane_2peru> !es | luis_
[00:46] <The_Man_Behind_t> I can't seem to get wireless working after Karmic upgrade. Full details of problem are here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8281491#post8281491
[00:46] <alephant> erUSUL: yes.  apt-get update returned no errors, imported the GPG key and everything.
[00:46] <jwash> yea, i want windows clients to access through mstsc.exe
[00:46] <erUSUL> alephant: i use a few ppa and never had that problem
[00:46] <code> furuno IF you are referring to xfix i did that.
[00:46] <usser> jwash, i dont think ubuntu has an rdp server available
[00:47] <shane_2peru> furuno, is that fully functional?
[00:47] <randomusr> jwash, what OS does the host have?
[00:47] <egaudet> is it expected that sun-java6-jdk depends on 6-15-1 version of sun-java6-bin but sun-java6-bin's most recent version is 6-16-0 (thus apt-get install sun-java6-jdk fails)
[00:47] <alephant> erUSUL: me too.  This is actually my first time.  I'm thinking I might take the "hard" way and just git clone and make install :-D
[00:47] <alephant> Thanks all
[00:47] <bucknasty> Anybody got dd-wrt on your router? I'm trying to restart the internet with: ifdown ppp0 && ifup ppp0 but it doesnt work. How can I do this? :>
[00:47]  * alephant waves byebye
[00:47] <erUSUL> alephant: good luck then
[00:47] <shane_2peru> oh, furuno I mean are both of those fully functional?
[00:47] <nicolas> Karmic Update has left my computer unable to boot saying no drives detected - ideas?
[00:47] <alephant> erUSUL: luck has nothing to do with it >:-)
[00:47] <usser> jwash, although that seems to come close http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/xrdp
[00:47] <alkx4444> the words are too tiny on my screen, but my screen is set up properly :(
[00:47] <Delvien> nicolas: boot into windows? ubuntu? what
[00:47] <luis_> que te crre
[00:48] <randomusr> !realvnc | jwash
[00:48] <RavO> eeeooo
[00:48] <nicolas> into Ubuntu, upgrade from Jaunty via terminal
[00:48] <erUSUL> luis_: /j #ubuntu-es
[00:48] <randomusr> !vnc | jwash
[00:48] <luis_> eesseee chavooo
[00:48] <code> furuno logs are on pastebin: f7df0f29d and f75fbef70
[00:48] <alkx4444> I'm squinting to look at the words on this chat room. :(
[00:48] <luis_> te estoy hablando
[00:48] <luis_> cooo
[00:48] <RavO> que quieres cooooo
[00:48] <furuno> shane_2peru : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks
[00:48] <luis_> enseñameeeee
[00:48] <Delvien> !es
[00:48] <luis_> no se nada de esta madre
[00:48] <RavO> mira la perrera, si la perreta, que bonita la perrta
[00:48] <randomusr> jwash, keep in mind that you would need the server and client for vnc installed. that's pprolly your best bet
[00:48] <RavO> va pedo, va pedo, va pedo
[00:49] <nicolas> upgrade went well until reboot
[00:49] <The_Man_Behind_t> I can't seem to get wireless working after Karmic upgrade. Full details of problem are here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8281491#post8281491
[00:49] <shane_2peru> furuno, Thanks!!!  I knew there was something like that out there!!!
[00:49] <luis_> ay pero que perreta mas incoveniente
[00:49] <jwash> i want to keep away from vnc as most who will use will not be able to install anything
[00:49] <krabador> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/karmic_koala_frustration/
[00:49] <erUSUL> !es | luis_ RavO
[00:49] <Delvien> luis_: ingles por favor
[00:49] <luis_> como  habeis visto todo fue un efecto de montaje
[00:49] <RavO> ha venido del arbol donador
[00:49] <jwash> i am hoping to keep my users on mstsc.exe cause its built in
[00:49] <RavO> cuando te vas ?
[00:49] <luis_> jejeeje
[00:49] <Delvien> !es | RavO
[00:49] <krsna> any suggestions as how to enable swfdec? i installed the package swfdec-mozilla but it does not work..
[00:50] <The_Man_Behind_t> @krabador Great. Just great.
[00:50] <luis_> perate no.... esta es la ducha de la piscina
[00:50] <RavO> jajajaja
[00:50] <nicolas> Delvien - just hangs after it says no drives detected
[00:50] <luis_> este es el toten
[00:50] <furuno> krsna : do you really need swfdec or just a flash player?
[00:50] <Delvien> nicolas: what release?
[00:50] <lufte> Hi all. Is there a configuration tool for intel graphics?
[00:50] <luis_> vamos casi seguro he te nido un chiquillo
[00:50] <furuno> krsna : for a flash player just do : sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[00:51] <krsna> furuno yes. swfdec. i desperately want to try it
[00:51] <nicolas> Delvien - 9.10
[00:51] <Delvien> nicolas: it gives you this error after grub?
[00:51] <rengil_> how can i make it so that the session is locked when waking up from hibernate?
[00:51] <code> furuno did you see logs on pastebin?
[00:51] <trism> krsna: you'll probably need to disable the official flash plugin to be able to use swfdec (Tools/Addons/Plugins)
[00:51] <nicolas> delvien, final message is: target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init.
[00:51] <pluc> Hey, can someone point me to the correct stub I need to add in grub's menu.lst to have access to Windows 7 on /dev/sda3?
[00:52] <nicolas> it begins grub
[00:52] <krsna> trism i dont have any flashplayer installed currently
[00:52] <StrangeCharm> how do you mount an lvm stored on an encrypted volume?
[00:52] <nicolas> delvien grub seems to load fine like it always has, but does not detect any drives
[00:53] <Snewp> hi i'm getting an error with my squid proxy: Squid Parent: child process 4152 exited due to signal 6 ... i have recreated the cache and logs already
[00:53] <Tommy3> **** Upgrade to 9.04 broke my sound. Is there a fix document? Thanks
[00:53] <code> furuno its here: http://pastebin.com/f7df0f29d   and  http://pastebin.com/f75fbef70
[00:53] <Delvien> nicolas: boot into a live cd and run this command "e2fsck -f -y -v /dev/sda2
[00:53] <lufte> anyone knows of a configuration tool for intel graphics? like nvidia-settings
[00:53] <Delvien> nicolas: replace */sda2 with your drive
[00:53] <erUSUL> lufte: there is none; afaik
[00:54] <lufte> too bad
[00:54] <nicolas> delvien - does it have to be a 9.10 live CD? or could I use my old 8.4 one?
[00:54] <tyler258> how do you configure a joy stick.... im new to ubuntu and have no idea how to configure it
[00:54] <erUSUL> !joystick
[00:54] <lufte> erUSUL: isn't there at least a generic tool for opengl settings?
[00:54] <krsna> trism it seems in tools/addons/plugins of firefox no installation of an installed package as a plugin to firefox is possible (besides the fact that i use arora)
[00:54] <alkx4444> I have not much experiance in programming, ironically I'm a webmaster, anyways ca anyone please teach me how to compile a program, and please don't call me a noob,  am 15 yrs old but  pick up new information pretty easyly.
[00:55] <Delvien> tyler258: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-set-up-a-gameportgamepad-or-joystick-in-ubuntu.html
[00:55] <erUSUL> lufte: no that i know of; sorry
[00:55] <lufte> erUSUL: okay, thanks man
[00:55] <tyler258> okay thanks
[00:55] <jrib> !compile > alkx4444
[00:55] <Delvien> tyler258:  np, i just googled "how to set up a joystick in ubuntu" :)
[00:55] <luis_> que te crreeeeeee
[00:56] <Delvien> tyler258: lots of links there if that guide doesnt help you
[00:56] <luis_> contestennnnnnnnnn cooooo
[00:56] <usser> !compiling | alkx4444
[00:56] <nomopofomo> how can i uninstall a program i installed from source?
[00:56] <Delvien> Can we have an op move the foreign speakers please :)
[00:56] <tyler258> okay... thanks
[00:56] <usser> nomopofomo, do you still have source from which you installed from?
[00:56] <nomopofomo> usser, yes
[00:57] <usser> nomopofomo, most programs have make uninstall option.
[00:57] <levanta> hi
[00:57] <nomopofomo> usser, i'll try that, thanks
[00:57] <usser> nomopofomo, so cd to where your sources are and run sudo make uninstall
[00:57] <nomopofomo> usser, thanks pal
[00:57] <VCoolio> nomopofomo: have a look at checkinstall instead of make install; it creates a deb and installs that, so easy to remove
[00:58] <nomopofomo> VCoolio, thanks for the tip!
[00:58] <code> Jaunty gui login does not load. Instead, shell access shows up. Ideas anyone: http://pastebin.com/f75fbef70 http://pastebin.com/f7df0f29d
[00:58] <The_Man_Behind_t> I can't seem to get wireless working after Karmic upgrade. My Broadcom Wireless card isn't properly detected
[00:59] <Delvien> code out of curiosity "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" that is, if you are running gnome
[01:00] <nicolas> Delvien - using the live cd where exactly do I type that in, do I load into ubuntu and open a terminal?
[01:00] <Delvien> nicolas load into the live cd "try ubuntu without installing" option then open a terminal and enter that command (make sure to change sda* to your hdd's)
[01:01] <Cool_AWAY> anyone here like boxing?
[01:01] <mneptok> !offtopic | Cool_AWAY
[01:01] <Delvien> !offtopic | Cool_AWAY
[01:01] <ThomasDS> hi
[01:02] <Cool_AWAY> just curious ehehe i watching boxing on ubuntu linux ehehe
[01:02] <Delvien> Cool_AWAY: that's great, we just like to keep this channel for support, no worries :)
[01:02] <Delvien> keep this channel clean*
[01:03] <coz_> hey guys... i have the universal access preferenes icon in the systray and I didnt put it there:)   I need this gone   anyone know how?
[01:03] <mneptok> coz_: right-click it
[01:03] <Delvien> coz_: right click your menu bar, edit menu
[01:03] <zilla1> upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10. there's no Samba GUI tool under System>... How do I get it back?
[01:03] <coz_> mneptok,  no right click avaialable on that icon
[01:03] <trism> coz_: System/Preferences/Keyboard Accessibility tab, disable the checkbox
[01:04] <Delvien> coz_: you have to right click the menu bar, not the icon
[01:04] <Delvien> coz_: IE where it says Applications Places System, right click there
[01:04] <trism> Delvien: you can't right click that icon, it does nothing
[01:04] <Um_cara_qualquer> any C programmer here?
[01:05] <jenkinbr> YAY, thanks trism
[01:05] <itsbrad212> hey
[01:05] <coz_> Delvien,  ok  but I dont want to edit the menu I want the icon gone from the systtray
[01:05] <itsbrad212> how can i get to xubuntu support
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[01:05] <phenom> Any idea if the ubuntu dev team has a "Fix everything that broke since Hardy Heron" distro in the works? :/
[01:05] <Delvien> coz_: in order to do that, you have to edit the menu
[01:05] <coz_> Delvien,  you lost me on that one but I will take a look
[01:05] <syn-ack> phenom, Um, what?
[01:05] <Tommy3> **** Upgrade to 9.04 broke my sound. Is there a fix document?
[01:05] <trism> coz_: *see my comment above*
[01:05] <Delvien> coz_:  look here:
[01:06] <phenom> I am seriously concerned about how much bug testing goes in to a distro before it's released.
[01:06] <mneptok> phenom: so run +1 and file bug reports
[01:06] <syn-ack> phenom, More than you think goes on.
[01:06] <zer0ne> Phenom: use hardy heron, it's LTS
[01:06] <phenom> I've had nothing but bugs since upgrading from heron
[01:06] <Delvien> coz_: http://img200.imageshack.us/i/200911092004411280x768s.png/
[01:06] <phenom> And Karmic, introduced most of them.
[01:06] <syn-ack> phenom, Then you may want to consider going back to Hardy.
[01:07] <Delvien> coz_: right click on that area, and that tooltip will display, just hit edit menus
[01:07] <zer0ne> Phenom, read about LTS
[01:07] <mneptok> phenom: this is a support channel. if you have a specific issue, please state it. but #ubuntu is not the proper channel for "this whole release stinks" chatter.
[01:07] <coz_> Delvien,  I understand what you mean but the systray icons cannot be accessed through alacarte
[01:07] <phenom> syn-ack, I wish it were "sudo apt-get revert" easy
[01:07] <phenom> I'd have to reinstall the system.
[01:07] <Delvien> coz_: oh systray
[01:07] <Delvien> coz_: hmm
[01:07] <playx> hi. if i change my audio output to 5.1 in pulse, the sound is very crappy. but in stereo it is clearly. anyone has a sulution? (sorry for bad english)
[01:07] <jenkinbr> Delvien: incorrect, I did it with system > prefs > keyboard, accessability tab, uncheck the box
[01:07] <emerson> how I install the free pascal compiler ?
[01:07] <coz_> trism,   thanks guy :)
[01:07] <nicolas> Delvien - just rebooted and still no drive detected
[01:07] <syn-ack> phenom, Well, you knew the risks before upgrading. EoT
[01:08] <zilla1> is your /home separate?
[01:08] <Delvien> jenkinbr: i didnt understand what he said :P should ping him that.
[01:08] <phenom> mneptok, Ok. Firefox now hangs whenever I full screen any vid/youtube clip of the like.
[01:08] <phenom> Any help?
[01:09] <nomopofomo> there's a virus bot spamming people named levanta :(
[01:09] <mneptok> phenom: that's an issue with the proprietary Flash plugin over which Ubuntu has no control. file a bug report with Adobe.
[01:09] <Ashfire908> I need to talk to a serial device over a serial port, how would I do that?
[01:09] <emerson> anybody else knows how to install the free pascal compiler ?
[01:09] <phenom> I get flooded with modprobe errors supposedly caused by ksplice, to which every supposed fix, has not worked.
[01:09] <mneptok> nomopofomo: #ubuntu-ops please
[01:10] <agus> has anyone ever installed ubuntu 9.10 using flash disk?
[01:10] <nomopofomo> i installed gnome-mplayer and set it to open up certain files... now that it's uninstalled i still see it as an option to open those files... how can i remove that?
[01:10] <phenom> mneptok, I do agree it is a flash issue, but it was working in hardy iirc
[01:10] <Delvien> phenom: maybe try swflash instead?
[01:10] <mneptok> phenom: Ubuntu developers have no control over what the plugin does or does not do, or regressions in Flash/
[01:11] <coz_> what the heck was that levanta pm
[01:11] <adamot> When i try to install Wine from the ubuntu software manager it gives me the error "package dependencies cannot be resolved". I am using ubuntu 9.10 can anyone help me?
[01:11] <phenom> Any way, the flash fix that "worked" on my laptop, doesn't work on my desktop. It freezes the browser entirely.
[01:11] <Delvien> coz_:  a spammer
[01:11] <agus> I succeed booting by usb but get problem when detect and mount cdrom
[01:11] <nicolas> Delvien - just rebooted and still no drive detected
[01:11] <phenom> mneptok, Right. Any idea why my system beeps repeatedly on shutdown?
[01:12] <JerVA> adamot, where did you install WINE from?
[01:12] <phenom> Does it on 2 of my ubuntu systems
[01:12] <Delvien> nicolas: when you ran the command i told you in the live cd , what did it say about the scan?
[01:12] <adamot> JerVA: from the ubuntu software center
[01:12] <mneptok> phenom: what does syslog / dmesg /messages say about it?
[01:12] <nicolas> it gave a date of the fsck something like july 2007 and seemed to start a process then just hung
[01:12] <phenom> The supposed fixes do not work either. I have to band aid it, and disable system beep altogether.
[01:12] <Delvien> that pesky pcspkr :P
[01:13] <Tommy3> Upgrade to 9.10 broke my sound. Is there a fix document?
[01:13] <Delvien> nicolas: that's not a good sign
[01:13] <Delvien> nicolas: how old is the PC , and the HDD?
[01:13] <nicolas> delvien about 2 years old
[01:13] <Delvien> Tommy3: what DE?
[01:13] <zilla1> answered my own question sudo apt-get install system-config-samba
[01:13] <JerVA> let me check what I can do for you adamot
[01:14] <Delvien> nicolas: how old is the instal? did you just upgrade? are you running karmic?
[01:14] <nicolas> delvien just upgraded from jaunty
[01:14] <Delvien> nicolas: when upgrading, did it ask to install a new version of /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[01:14] <phenom> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/290204
[01:14] <nnz> I am downloading thunderbird mail client and soon I will be ready to learn how to compile.
[01:14] <Delvien> nicolas: also, are you dual booting?
[01:14] <nicolas> Delvien: no
[01:14] <nicolas> Delvien: no I am not
[01:15] <nicolas> Delvien: this machine has been ubuntu from the beginning
[01:15] <Delvien> nicolas can you boot to recovery mode?
[01:15] <adamot> JerVA: thank you. it may help you to know that i tried installing once before but i only got as far as to compile Wine and i decided to just get rid of the folder and start over. the reason i tried compiling is because i got this same error.
[01:15] <Kalisto_> hey guys i upgraded to 9.10 and now my dmraid (fakeraid) is giving me problems. when i boot grub tells me: Kernel Panic not syncing VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown block.. any ideas? i tried update-initramfs already
[01:15] <JerVA> adamot: Did you try WINE stable version or Beta version?
[01:15] <nicolas> Delvien: just tried through the grub menu options, it gives me the same: filesystem has no /sbin/init
[01:15] <adamot> JerVA Wine stable version
[01:15] <nnz> I am about to decompress the file.
[01:16] <JerVA> FYI Wine beta version works well
[01:16] <JerVA> You may want to try the latest version
[01:16] <adamot> JerVA okay i'll try that
[01:16] <SWH> hi
[01:16] <switchgirl> !ppa
[01:16] <phenom> mneptok, Honestly, I don't have the mind to dig through system files at present.
[01:16] <nicolas> Delvien: however it seems to have listed my HDD as different names- they used to be sda1 now it only has them listed as sdf and sde
[01:16] <emerson> exit
[01:16] <JerVA> The latest WINE version is 1.1.32
[01:16] <switchgirl> !pubkey
[01:16] <Delvien> sdf ?
[01:16] <Delvien> hmm
[01:16] <phenom> I'm just venting.
[01:16] <switchgirl> how to add a pubkey manually please
[01:16] <adamot> JerVA: it seems to be working, I'll let you know if i run into any problems, thanks a lot!
[01:16] <JerVA> Welcome :)
[01:17] <StrangeCharm> what does something yellow in ls mean?
[01:17] <Tommy3> Delvien: (describe "DE" please)  I upgraded from 9.04. cannot get any sound app to work. old dell, ES1371 sound chip.
[01:17] <nicolas> Delvien: I have two HDDs both 500 gb a piece listed before as sda1 sdb1
[01:17] <AmokPaule> i have deletet a packet with aptitude --purge remove  but there still files and folders from that packet left. How can i remove a packet completly?
[01:17] <ZykoticK9> switchgirl, if you're using 9.10 "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:foo" will install both source.list entry and pgp key
[01:17] <nicolas> Delvien: another error is EXT3-fs: no journal
[01:18] <switchgirl> ZykoticK9: google pubkeys have to be manually added
[01:18] <Delvien> Tommy3: DE= Desktop environment. KDE/GNOME/Xfce/Openbox etc
[01:18] <ZykoticK9> switchgirl, example http://paste.ubuntu.com/314700/
[01:18] <nnz> ok, I have decompressed the file.
[01:18] <Delvien> nicolas: lemme look,
[01:18] <Tommy3> Delvien: using gnome
[01:18] <phenom> I just hope ubuntu starts to work on stabilizing the system. I've never had so many problems upgrading distros.
[01:18] <gm|lap> hey, because pulseaudio absolutely sucks horribly now, i'm trying to get esound working; unfortunately, when i run esd (and i did apt-get install esound and the like), there's no output
[01:19] <Cyber-Dogg> how do I go about installing the pre-release version of the nvidia drivers?
[01:19] <diffra> I've got a dell D630 hooked up to a docking station with 2 monitors, one DVI, one VGA.  When i boot ubuntu 9.10 with both monitors hooked up, it crashes at the very end of the boot sequence.  Where it would normally drop you to the desktop, i get a blank screen with the circular loading cursor, which is frozen, not animated.
[01:19] <zer0ne> phenom: just use windows
[01:19] <adamot> Is there any way to add more work spaces?
[01:19] <JerVA> Cyber-Dogg, try going to Administration>Software Sources
[01:19] <phenom> Not to be a pest,, but I'm serious. I am scared upgrading ubuntu
[01:19] <gm|lap> i think it might be wired up to alsa which might be wired up to a pulse compat layer or something pathetically stupid like that
[01:19] <Cyber-Dogg> I have 185 installed now but I'm hving some issues with VDPAU and it's suggested that the newer version will fix it
[01:19] <Delvien> Tommy3: have you checked "alsamixer" to see if any of your outputs are muted
[01:19] <JerVA> Go to updates tab
[01:19] <Cyber-Dogg> JerVA: i've looked and I only see 185
[01:19] <JerVA> click on whatever OS you are using-proposed
[01:20] <JerVA> then press close - it should communicate with the update manager
[01:20] <diffra> phenom: when you consider the task of upgrading windows versions, say XP-> vista, it's just as, if not more risky.  I've never seen an upgraded windows install that worked as well as a fresh one.
[01:20] <Tommy3> Delvien: all outputs are max volume and not muted.
[01:20] <phenom> zer0ne, Nice answer. You're one of those people that says,, "just leave" america,, when I mention something I don't like.. Well this is my Country you mook. And Ubuntu is my distro.
[01:20] <JerVA> and it should get the NVIDIA latest driver
[01:20] <Delvien> Tommy3: go to the sound icon in the systray and go to its properties
[01:20] <phenom> Just like America. Ubuntu has room for improvement.. Both based around stability heh
[01:21] <mankash> has anybody tried iphone development on ubuntu?
[01:21] <Delvien> nicolas: I found a bug report on a broken LiveCD image that was fixed with your same issue, but i cant find anything else
[01:21] <nicolas> Delvien: just ran the recovery mode on another kernel - it says: mountall main process (2949) terminated with status 1 general error mounting file system. A maintanance shell will now be started
[01:21] <microlith> mankash: why would anyone bother with iphone development on anything other than OS X?
[01:21] <Tommy3> Delvien: ok, got it up...
[01:21] <i_is_broke> phenom, then become a person to help with the upgrades instead of just complaining about it.
[01:21] <nicolas> then it gives my sudo name and all that - thats different from before
[01:21] <Delvien> mankash possible, but syncing is the problem. as we cant run itunes.... well, if at all
[01:21] <diffra> Any thoughts re: booting with dual monitors?  using the free nv driver, quadro nvs if either of those helps.
[01:22] <nnz> I don't know how to compile a program, please may somebody help me, I am easy to train. please open a private convo to help me.
[01:22] <code> Jaunty gui not displaying. Pls help?
[01:22] <Delvien> Tommy3: go to output, what is the connector? if none, slect different options, see if one works for you
[01:22] <JerVA> mankash, you can ask this question in ubuntu brainstorm
[01:22] <Tonno> how do I install Medibuntu on 9.10?
[01:22] <JerVA> and suggest that you want iphone development
[01:22] <diffra> nnz, try here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[01:22] <zer0ne> Phenom : get to work then....
[01:22] <Delvien> nicolas: ok in the recovery mode. log in
[01:22] <phenom> i_is_broke, I'm not complaining. I'm just not scared to admit, the dev team needs to work on stabilizing the system before releases.
[01:23] <Ashfire908> I need to talk to a device over a serial cable, what program should I use?
[01:23] <Delvien> nicolas: once you are in type "mount" and pastebin the output
[01:23] <Tommy3> Delvien: output connector is "Analog Output/Amplifier"
[01:23] <nicolas> Delvien: it is only terminal access
[01:23] <code> Jaunty does not load gui login. Instead get shell acccess. http://pastebin.com/f75fbef70 http://pastebin.com/f7df0f29d
[01:23] <Delvien> Tommy3: what does output volume say on the top
[01:23] <nnz> my firefox browser won't allow me to copy the address, diffra.
[01:23] <Delvien> nicolas: ah yes. well, do you see your drives?
[01:23] <usser> Ashfire908, python, c++, java all have capabilities to talk to serial devices, hell you can probably do it in bash too
[01:23] <JerVA> nnz, try pressing CTRL & V same time to copy the address
[01:23] <ZykoticK9> Tonno, http://paste.ubuntu.com/314704/
[01:24] <diffra> nnz: then try retyping it? or google 'ubuntu compile'.  it was the second or third hit when i did it.
[01:24] <nicolas> Delvien: how would I check that from a terminal environment
[01:24] <JerVA> I mean
[01:24] <Delvien> JerVA: Ctrl C  ? :P
[01:24] <gm|lap> ok, restarting, hopefully this'll dynamite pulseaudio once and for all
[01:24] <JerVA> CTRL & C to copy
[01:24] <JerVA> yes
[01:24] <nnz> ok
[01:24] <JerVA> thanks for correcting me lol
[01:24] <Delvien> nicolas: just type mount
[01:24] <Tonno> ZykoticK9, thanks :)
[01:24] <JerVA> CTRL & V for paste
[01:24] <nnz> wish me luck!!!
[01:24] <Ashfire908> usser, uh, I need just a raw input output, I'm not coding anything. I just want to talk, lol.
[01:24] <JerVA> That's all
[01:24] <Delvien> JerVA: /hands u coffee :)
[01:24] <code> logs say that type 1 level was choosen but RALT has 2 symbols?
[01:24] <JerVA> than just right-clicking the mouse
[01:24] <Tommy3> Delvien: slider is set abt 50%, value below says 100%, not muted
[01:24] <JerVA> lol thanks - I appreciate it Delvien
[01:24] <Delvien> Tommy3: new install, what are you testing the sound with
[01:25] <nicolas> Delvien: that lists my drive as it was formally known sda1
[01:25] <usser> Ashfire908, oh so something like that then: stty -F /dev/ttyS0 raw ispeed 2400 ospeed 2400 cs8 -ignpar -cstopb -echo
[01:25] <usser> cat < /dev/ttyS0 &
[01:25] <usser> echo $'\x80\x80\x80\x01\x01\x01\x11\x14' > /dev/ttyS0
[01:25] <Delvien> nicolas: okie,.. out of curosity have you tried booting to the non recovery mode old kernel?
[01:25] <Delvien> nicolas: dont do it yet
[01:25] <nicolas> Delvien: no I have not
[01:26] <usser> Ashfire908, stty opens the device and then you just cat /dev/ttyfile & and echo commands to it
[01:26] <nicolas> Delvien: it also mentions in parenthesis (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
[01:26] <Delvien> nicolas: ok, do an update while you are logged in,
[01:26] <Ashfire908> usser, something cleaner... Sorry, I'm personally talking, and I'd rather use a nice(er) interface than cat and echo.
[01:26] <Delvien> nicolas: thats fine, that is normal
[01:26] <nicolas> Delvien: would that be sudo apt-get update?
[01:26] <Delvien> nicolas: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:27] <ScottG> What sort of things can you do on primary partitions that you can't on extended?
[01:27] <code> Any thought on jaunty login without gui?
[01:27] <zilla1> how should I setup samba with all the printer drivers on my server so that win clients don't get the disabled, cannot connect message
[01:27] <diffra> scottG: you can... not have more than 4?
[01:27] <ScottG> diffra: Primary partitions? No
[01:27] <nnz> diffra, when i say compile, i mean instaling software from a non-deb file.
[01:28] <diffra> nnz, I understand.  The wiki page gives a howto, step by step.
[01:28] <nnz> I will check again, diffra
[01:28] <nicolas> Delvien: lists a bunch of could not resolve stuff as well as some index files failing to install and old ones are being used
[01:29] <Delvien> nicolas: does it say something about dpkg --configure -a or apt-get -f install?
[01:29] <zilla1> boot from them
[01:29] <Tommy3> Delvien: streamtuner radio station... get error: "Failed to execute child process - audacious.:: tryied reloading audacious. looks like audacious2 comes up for install.  Also, have a java driven website that cannot reach sound output.  Rebooted yesterday and it worked for a while. dont know what happed to make it stop.
[01:29] <nicolas> Delvien: not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[01:30] <nicolas> Delvien: it also says - unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
[01:30] <soblivion> Delvien, is synaptic open?
[01:30] <nosto> anyone know of a good program that lets me resize my current ubuntu partition and the other ntfs partition i have on the same drive?
[01:30] <libtech> my two-finger and three-finger taps are reversed in karmic. I can fix this temporarily with 'synclient TapButton2=2 TapButton3=3', but the settings don't hold after a reboot.
[01:30] <goose> does anybody know why "mkdir ~/public_html" doesn't create a folder any longer at http://domain.org/~chris/ for me? :/
[01:30] <soblivion> err....nm
[01:30] <Delvien> soblivion: hes in a shell, no UI running.
[01:30] <JerVA> nosto, try GParted
[01:31] <Delvien> Tommy3: try just playing an mp3 for now
[01:31] <diffra> goose: try #ubuntu-server
[01:31] <JerVA> GParted is the good software to work around the partitions
[01:32] <ZykoticK9> goose, that would have to be an apache setting (if that's what your using for web serving)
[01:32] <Tommy3> Delvien: I'll be back after I get that done....park me for a few minutes.
[01:32] <goose> ZykoticK9: I am, but this is the most active place to ask for help :p
[01:32] <Tonno> can I add applet of gnome on xfce?
[01:32] <Delvien> nicolas: ls /var/cache (what is the output?, dont paste it here, just sum it up)
[01:33] <Delvien> Tommy3: np
[01:33] <SirFunk> hey, what's everyones favorite window swither to use on a netbook?
[01:33] <ZykoticK9> goose, i don't have apache installed yet but check in the config file for something about home folder or public_html - it's probably not turned on by default if this is a fresh install.  best of luck.
[01:33] <SirFunk> i find the compiz one hard to tell which window i'm getting quickly
[01:34] <JerVA> SirFunk, what do you mean? Do you mean Grub1, 2?
[01:34] <JerVA> The program you use to dual boot?
[01:34] <coz_> SirFunk,  you could install the experimental plugins for compiz one of which is workspace names
[01:34] <Delvien> nicolas: what was the output?
[01:34] <SirFunk> coz_: hmm
[01:34] <nicolas> Delvien: Apache2, app install,apt,binfmts,cups,dbconfig,flashplugin,fonts,gdm,git,gnome tools,hald,jockey,ldconfig,libvirt
[01:34] <SirFunk> yeah, compiz does havea  lot of options.. maybe i need to play around with it more
[01:35] <nicolas> Delvien: man,pppconfig,sambe, software center, system tools
[01:35] <JerVA> You mean window switcher as in Desktop effects?
[01:35] <coz_> SirFunk,   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/soreau%27s%20script
[01:35] <JerVA> You can test Compiz for different desktop effects fyi
[01:35] <soreau> coz_:)
[01:35] <thieusoai> ls
[01:35] <coz_> SirFunk,  downloda that   open terminal    cd to Desktop
[01:35] <ZykoticK9> coz_, do you know the specific package(s) required to do workspace naming?  that would be so cool.
[01:35] <Delvien> nicolas:  "ls -l /var/cache/apt"
[01:35] <coz_> ZykoticK9,   just download that script
[01:35] <coz_> ZykoticK9,  it should install all of the dependencies you need
[01:36] <thieusoai> hi I am having some problems with NIS -- I can log in via NIS and such,  however all X application dealing with internet (e.g., pidgin, xchat, firefox) won't respond  -- i.e., they just hang
[01:36] <SirFunk> coz_: is there a screenshot or something of what the end result looks like?
[01:36] <Delvien> nicolas: it looks like your upgrade did not complete, and corrupted the install.
[01:36] <coz_> SirFunk,  open terminla  cd Desktop    ./soreu' scrit
[01:36] <coz_> SirFunk,   well I could screen shot it hold on
[01:36] <SirFunk> coz_: thanks
[01:36] <JerVA> thieusoai, you mean you did log in to have network connection ? Specific NIS please?
[01:36] <soreau> coz_: Some people don't know how to use a script so it may be better to link them to the forum post which explains how to install ans use the script
[01:36] <nicolas> Delvien: total 25976, drwxr -xr-x 3 root root 147456 achrives
[01:37] <nicolas> Delvien: could a fresh install from a live cd fix it you think?
[01:37] <nicolas> Delvien: because this one was from update manager
[01:37] <istvan> ok, i'm having sound issues - surprise - I have my mic hooked up, and when I talk into it I can hear it, but it is VERRY quiet. where can I fix this?
[01:37] <Delvien> nicolas: a fresh install would def fix the issue, but you would have to back up your data first, then install a new copy, wiping the HDD with / and possibly /home if you have it setup under the default
[01:37] <thieusoai> JerVA: I was able to log in via NIS just fine, all network / internet works  (i.e., if I log in using tty1  and try using elinks and such -> all work).  It's just in X when try to open some internet apps like firefox ,  the application hangs.
[01:38] <coz_> soreau,  makes sense
[01:38] <Lunja> .server gay-serbia.com
[01:38] <thieusoai> JerVA: what specific NIS info do you need ?
[01:38] <JerVA> ah you mean the apps frozen on you?
[01:38] <Kalisto_> after an upgrade to 9.10 i no longer have an initrd.img in /boot any ideas how to generate get this?
[01:38] <Delvien> nicolas: if you dont mind doing that, id say that'd be your best bet
[01:38] <JerVA> What Linux OS are you using thieusoai
[01:38] <coz_> SirFunk,    http://forum.compiz.org/showthread.php?s=1b7cda8f56eb32a6fd5e805701e558e0&t=12012
[01:38] <SirFunk> thanks
[01:38] <nicolas> Delvien: that would be fine, how would I go about backing up from terminal
[01:38] <thieusoai> JerVA: I wouldn't call it being frozen,  it won't even open   ... none of them (pidgin, xchat, etc)
[01:38] <Delvien> lunja / Gad, please keep that out of this channel. Thank you.
[01:38] <nnz> I'm sorry diffra but it's just to advanced for me, the most code I have ever used is html code.
[01:38] <JerVA> Oh yeah - it won't open at all.
[01:39] <nicolas> Delvien: this should effect my other plug in drives should it?
[01:39] <coz_> SirFunk,   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/Screenshot.png
[01:39] <thieusoai> JerVA: The NIS server runs on Hardy  ---  the clients runs various OS including Ubuntu / Debian
[01:39] <Delvien> nicolas: know your way around cd and cp?
[01:39] <thieusoai> JerVA: all clients have the same exact problem  ---
[01:39] <nicolas> Delvien: a little
[01:39] <Delvien> nicolas: you mean usbs?
[01:39] <JerVA> Did you change anything before this occurred thei
[01:39] <coz_> SirFunk,  you can see there I have numbers  set in the plugin to distinguish   viewports
[01:39] <JerVA> thieusoai,
[01:39] <thieusoai> JerVA: nope,  I don't think I've changed anything
[01:39] <nnz> I don't know how to compile a program, please may somebody help me, I am easy to train. please open a private convo to help me., I can't understand the wiki pages
[01:40] <nicolas> Delvien: kind of, I have one of my drives set up as if it were a usb drive, one drive has my OS the other my information. When I ran the live cd I was able to access the info drive no problem
[01:40] <SirFunk> coz_: yeah
[01:40] <SirFunk> cool
[01:40] <JerVA> Okay. Did you run update manager yet?
[01:40] <thieusoai> JerVA: I don't even know where to localize the problem.   All I know is that if I log in using a "local" account, everything works  --  but an nis account -> problem.  So I figure it must be NIS
[01:40] <IdleOne> !compile | nnz
[01:40] <JerVA> NIS is the server itself?
[01:40] <coz_> SirFunk,  you can add letters or names if you wish
[01:40] <Ashfire908> Hi, I'm trying to send a file to this switch I have via the serial port, what program should I use?
[01:40] <nicolas> Delvien: really I only have a few files I need to retrieve from the OS HDD, how would I go about doing that?
[01:41] <Delvien> nicolas: just copy the information to the usb drives that you want to store, when installing a new ubuntu, make sure you have that usb drive unplugged to reduce the risk of formatting it by accident. then blam
[01:41] <nnz> ubottu, I think I have allready done that.
[01:41] <thieusoai> JerVA: what do you mean ?    I have a server running NIS providing services,  and all clients also run NIS which authenticates wit hthe server
[01:41] <fiorov> Hello
[01:41] <Delvien> nicolas: cd to the dir, then "cp /file /path/to/your/backup/area" preferably on another drive or your USB one you are going to disconnect before reinstalling
[01:41] <BeBen> Does 9.04 have network manager for dailup modems already installed?
[01:41] <JerVA> I am just trying to illustrate where NIS and server/clients go together
[01:42] <Delvien> nicolas: for example "cd /home/nicolas/documents"
[01:42] <fiorov> i installed synce-icon and i got error, that nautilus doesnt support synce:// protocol
[01:42] <nnz> I have the files, I'm trying to compile thunderbird mail client
[01:42] <fiorov> What should i try to do?
[01:42] <Delvien> nicolas: "cp picture.jpg /media/otherhdd/picture.jpg"
[01:42] <p1und3r> Hey, I just upgraded ext3 to ext4, i did a grub-install on my filesystem.. I heard something about needing grub2 for ext4, i want to make sure I will be ok as I am, does anyone know about this?
[01:43] <nnz> help me help me help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:43] <fiorov> plund3r, afaik u does not need that
[01:43] <soreau> ! grub2 | p1und3r
[01:43] <nicolas> Delvien: nice, I will give it a shot, once I do that just unplug the good drive, and run the live cd, formatting the hd for the fresh install?
[01:43] <JerVA> NIS is Network Information Service right?
[01:43] <Delvien> p1und3r: IIRC grub2 supports ext4 /boot, whilst anything previous for grub only uses ext3 for /boot
[01:43] <soreau> * ubottu has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
[01:43] <Delvien> nicolas: make sure you umount the drive, to preserve data
[01:44] <thieusoai> JerVA: yes
[01:44] <nnz> I wanna compile thunderbird mail client,
[01:44] <nnz> I don't know how to compile a program, please may somebody help me, I am easy to train. please open a private convo to help me.
[01:44] <Delvien> nicolas: "sudo umount /path/to/drive"
[01:44] <p1und3r> Delvien: ah ok, so I probably am using ext3 to boot atm I assume?
[01:44] <nicolas> Delvien: thanks for the help
[01:44] <fiorov> nnz: ./configure && make && make install
[01:44] <Delvien> nicolas: np\
[01:44] <Trupsalms> help
[01:44] <xXHalfSliceXx> hello
[01:44] <fiorov> So, any1 got idea how to learn gnome using new protocol? :>
[01:44] <goose> what's the problem Trupsalms?
[01:44] <Delvien> p1und3r: you can set /boot as a single partition 750mb under ext3 and be fine
[01:44] <goose> !hi | xXHalfSliceXx
[01:44] <nnz> in that order? fiorov
[01:44] <optical> Hello all, can someone give me a quick hand with oidentd.  It seems to only be listening on IPv4 addresses but IPv6 it is refusing.  I had this problem in the past and fixed it with some kind of "sysctl" setting but I've gone over all of the "forwarding" settings under sysctl, all are set to 1 for enabled, but that that still didn't fix it.  I can't remember what I'm supposed to do to fix it
[01:44] <xXHalfSliceXx> help
[01:44] <fiorov> Yes.
[01:44] <xXHalfSliceXx> new ubuntu 9.10 update
[01:45] <hlfshell> i am trying to use gparted on an SD card in my dell inspiron e1505 laptop. df -h shows that the card, when mounted, is /dev/mmcblk0p1 . It mounts fine and I cna read write to the card fine, but gparted can't see it. any ideas?
[01:45] <goose> ubotu is dead? :0
[01:45] <xXHalfSliceXx> i think i updated 2 days ago
[01:45] <optical> xXHalfSliceXx: it's terrible, isn't it?
[01:45] <xXHalfSliceXx> to the new version
[01:45] <optical> 9.10 ruined my whole system
[01:45] <nnz> is that the files I click on or what I type in the console?
[01:45] <optical> never again
[01:45] <coz_> SirFunk,  did you decide on that script?
[01:45] <goose> xXHalfSliceXx: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:45] <p1und3r> Delvien: i only have 1 ext4 and 1 swap under gparted, wud i have seen /boot ext3 there?
[01:45] <xXHalfSliceXx> i use Samba
[01:45] <coz_> SirFunk,   I find using the "i" function to install them one at a time works for me
[01:45] <xXHalfSliceXx> im having no problems. except
[01:45] <Trupsalms> how to register username
[01:45] <Delvien> p1und3r: during install, you would of had to specify it
[01:45] <thieusoai> JerVA: the problem seems to be related to X  , because all network-related apps work fine when I don't log in X
[01:45] <SirFunk> coz_: i havn't tried it yet... i bookmarked it though, i'll try it later when i get home
[01:46] <xXHalfSliceXx> our Vista PC can no longer access the shared files
[01:46] <xXHalfSliceXx> it can see the mounted External hard drive. and the containing folders
[01:46] <xXHalfSliceXx> but it cannont access the folders
[01:46] <p1und3r> Delvien: ah ok I shud be gold then, thanks for your help
[01:46] <coz_> SirFunk,  ok I dont think you will be disappointed    some of these plugins are quite useful although experimental
[01:46] <JerVA> Did you research what issues are into X while local clients are working properly?
[01:46] <goose> xXHalfSliceXx: how did you install?
[01:46] <Delvien> p1und3r: yw
[01:46] <xXHalfSliceXx> well. my XP pc has no problem accessing it
[01:46] <SirFunk> coz_: cool thanks
[01:47] <thieusoai> JerVA: I am not sure what to do research on  ---  I don't see any error msg or anything suspicious in the logs
[01:47] <coz_> SirFunk,  no problem ,, if you have trouble with them later meet us in #compiz
[01:47] <xXHalfSliceXx> ubuntu does a check every 2 days for new software updates GOOSE
[01:47] <kostkon> xXHalfSliceXx, every day
[01:47] <xXHalfSliceXx> i changed it to 2 days
[01:47] <trollboy> clear
[01:47] <kostkon> xXHalfSliceXx, ah
[01:47] <Delvien> kostkon: you can change it :p
[01:47] <goose> xXHalfSliceXx: how did you install ubuntu? wubi or startup?
[01:47] <trollboy> there we go, sorry about that
[01:48] <code> Jaunty, x not loading?
[01:48] <kostkon> Delvien, yeah, i meant what it does by default
[01:48] <Trupsalms> how to register user name
[01:48] <goose> Trupsalms: /msg nickserv help register
[01:48] <xXHalfSliceXx> GOOSE: just did the apply all updates. and the new version was part of it
[01:48] <JerVA> thieusoai, did you try to reinstall the X and see if it responds ?
[01:49] <nnz> fiorov, I have opened the folder and those files arn't there.
[01:49] <SirFunk> coz_: what's the name of the package that has the compiz setting manager? i don't seem to have it installed
[01:49] <trollboy> I'm using usb to serial adaptors to hook up miltiple external modems, here's the issue though.. only /dev/ttyUSB0 shows up, there is no /dev/ttyUSB2
[01:49] <goose> xXHalfSliceXx: you're not answering my question. how did you put ubuntu on the machine? did you put the disc in your computer and restart it, or did you start your computer in windows and put the disc in and install it?
[01:49] <JerVA> and see if performance with clients resolved?
[01:49] <trollboy> even though I've all 3 plugged in
[01:49] <xXHalfSliceXx> oh. originallyy
[01:49] <coz_> SirFunk,   compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:49] <xXHalfSliceXx> used a CD
[01:49] <goose> ..
[01:49] <goose> FROM STARTUP OR INSIDE WINDOWS??
[01:49] <thieusoai> JerVA: actually I do a fresh reinstall on a new machine and same exact problem.
[01:49]  * goose headdesks
[01:49] <xXHalfSliceXx> startup
[01:49] <xXHalfSliceXx> sorry. i was misunderstanding you
[01:49] <nnz> #sigh#
[01:50] <fiorov> then see INSTALL file
[01:50] <JerVA> You just got the new machine ? Did you have issues appearing before you got the new machine?
[01:50] <xXHalfSliceXx> was a blank HD
[01:50] <fiorov> there should be instructions
[01:50] <thieusoai> JerVA: the fact that it happens on all client machines running various Linux distributions show something is wrong on the serverside
[01:50] <goose> xXHalfSliceXx: ok, do you have the necessary software on windows to access ext file systems?
[01:50] <nnz> there is no install file.
[01:50] <thieusoai> JerVA: no, the Server remains the same,  the clients -- all 10+ of them have the same problems,
[01:50] <agus> has anyone ever installed ubuntu 9.10 using flash disk?
[01:50] <tonyyarusso> What's the difference between the ubuntu-desktop metapackage and the ubuntu-desktop task?
[01:50] <Trupsalms> whats is the channel for asterisk
[01:50] <xXHalfSliceXx> not sure
[01:50] <nnz> I am sorry but there isn't
[01:51] <nicolas> Delvien: there are some files I forgot about that I need on my drive, is there any way to complete the upgrade via terminal
[01:51] <brad_> when i try to ./configure a file the final results say "tcl cannot be found on this system"?
[01:51] <Codemaster> can anyone help me out here? I have a software RAID 1 (/dev/md0) that, once booted, only has /dev/sda2 mounted as /; however, i have specifically in my mdadm config to have /dev/sda and /dev/sdc as /dev/md0 and have even changed my /etc/fstab to specify /dev/md0p2 as / - however it DOES NOT mount properly; anyone have information on this?
[01:51] <nicolas> Delvien: without having to wipe clean the whole thing?
[01:51] <Trupsalms> help
[01:51] <Trupsalms> complulation aborted at peri
[01:52] <Codemaster> is there a better ubuntu support channel? I haven't gotten anything helpful out of here.
[01:52] <goose> agus: using a USB drive? I have
[01:52] <nnz> fiorov, this is the source of my files, please look at them, then you might be able to help me.: http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/
[01:52] <kostkon> brad_, install the tcl-dev package
[01:52] <seth_> Codemaster, I hear that
[01:52] <agus> I succeed booting by usb but get problem when detect and mount cdrom
[01:52] <xXHalfSliceXx> what is the ext file system for Goose
[01:52] <goose> agus: did you md5sum the .iso?
[01:52] <JerVA> thieusoai, try going to #ubuntu-server
[01:52] <thieusoai> k thanks JerVA
[01:52] <JerVA> I'll be there - others may can answer better than I do but same time I may can help you
[01:53] <agus> I'm not sure
[01:53] <goose> xXHalfSliceXx: "ext" is the format of the file system linux uses. windows cannot access it out of the box, you need to download software that will allow windows to read/write to/from ext file formats.
[01:53] <fiorov> nnz: those are _NOT_ sources
[01:53] <brad_> kostkon, where do i find it
[01:53] <fiorov> it contains binaries
[01:53] <kostkon> brad_, just give: sudo apt-get install tcl-dev   ;)
[01:53] <agus> I used syslinux and copy all file in cd to flashdisk
[01:54] <nnz> then how come I cant run them right away?!?
[01:54] <azyy> [tpp--p-tqqaaaalttoptol4oo504o600o05o0o609
[01:54] <Trupsalms> help asterisk
[01:54] <brad_> kostkon thank you
[01:54] <kostkon> brad_, :)
[01:54] <Trupsalms> dahdi
[01:55] <nnz> g-scite and kompozer binarys run straight away!!!
[01:55] <seth_> When I open 'Cheese Webcam Viewer", I can see the image from my webcam just fine.  However, when I go into Skype -> Options -> Video Devices -> Test, in place of video, I get a box of mostly green with horizontal lines.  Any explanations or fixes?
[01:56] <Captain-Kremmen> hey all
[01:56] <Legendre> 'lo
[01:56] <Codemaster> is there somewhere i can get actual support for MDADM devices? This channel is offering no help at all
[01:56] <B3rz3rk3r> ahoy captain
[01:56] <Captain-Kremmen> question if you don't mind :)
[01:56] <B3rz3rk3r> fire away
[01:57] <Codemaster> can anyone help me out here? I have a software RAID 1 (/dev/md0) that, once booted, only has /dev/sda2 mounted as /; however, i have specifically in my mdadm config to have /dev/sda and /dev/sdc as /dev/md0 and have even changed my /etc/fstab to specify /dev/md0p2 as / - however it DOES NOT mount properly; anyone have information on this?
[01:57] <seth_> I am using Ubuntu K. When I open 'Cheese Webcam Booth", I can see the image from my webcam just fine.  However, when I go into Skype -> Options -> Video Devices -> Test, in place of video, I get a box of mostly green with horizontal lines.  Any explanations or fixes?
[01:57] <SirFunk> what is the name of the 'task bar' type thing in ubuntu netbook-remix.. that shows the little icons?
[01:57] <nnz> :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
[01:57] <tpw_ds> hi
[01:57] <vdub> in case there are any super noobs to ubuntu and linux from years of windows I just posted a cheat sheet might help some people out might not http://vdububuntu.blogspot.com/
[01:57] <Captain-Kremmen> I've just installed mimicdecoder to conver my amsn .cam files.... but I can't figure out how to execute the proggie... yeah  dumb I know :/
[01:57] <d9500> not a tech help question about ubuntu specifically, but how do you summon the ops if a member in the channel keeps spamming you PMs?
[01:57] <randomusr> is there a way to use my scroll wheel as a button scroll like I can in Internet Explorer?
[01:58] <Legendre> Anyone care to speculate on an odd screen/kb/mouse freeze issue?
[01:58] <nnz> help me to get this to work please pplz: http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/
[01:58] <Legendre> lots of askers, not a lot of answerers ;-)
[01:58] <Codemaster> call this a fucking support channel? this is a disgrace, honestly.
[01:58] <Captain-Kremmen> can't find it in apps or places and I'm a newb with ubuntu so I'm still abit rough on where everything gets put :/
[01:58] <B3rz3rk3r> Codemaster, not too familiar with raid setup personally, but i do know that most people that i talk to about them do not like software solutions. Have you tried a hardware solution here?
[01:58] <Legendre> Codemaster: you're out of line.
[01:59] <Codemaster> sorry, just beyond irked.
[01:59] <nnz> I'm with you codemaster
[01:59] <mordof> i broke my gnome-panel ; ; lol.  how do i get my pidgin icon and sound icon back on a gnome-panel?
[01:59] <Codemaster> B3rz3rk3r: a -proper- hardware solution is expensive.
[01:59] <seth_> I am using Ubuntu K. When I open 'Cheese Webcam Booth", I can see the image from my webcam just fine.  However, when I go into Skype -> Options -> Video Devices -> Test, in place of video, I get a box of mostly green with horizontal lines.  Any explanations or fixes?
[01:59] <Legendre> keep in mind, NONE of these folks are paid.
[01:59] <Legendre> they are here of their own accord
[01:59] <AMN-Data> good day... Anybody know how i can check the log file for ftp. I want to know who and when my server have been ftp to.
[01:59] <Tommy3> Delvien: Ok here. mp3 playing and java playing. (its software/its hardware) audio cable fell out!  Still would like to get streamer working. should I load a different streamer to match audacious2.  I think audacious must have been upgraded and that is what broke my "streamtuner".
[01:59] <Codemaster> software RAID is what I want to test with as well
[01:59] <randomusr> Dustin?
[01:59] <kostkon> mordof, add the notification area applet
[01:59] <coz_> nnz,   I think it is in the repository
[01:59] <mordof> kostkon: it's not in the notification area.  i have that on tint
[01:59] <Codemaster> and I know it works, as per thousands of business users utilizing it alraedy
[01:59] <Tommy3> Delvien: Ok here. mp3 playing and java playing. (its software/its hardware) audio cable fell out!  Still would like to get streamer working. should I load a different streamer to match audacious2.  I think audacious must have been upgraded and that is what broke my "streamtuner".
[02:00] <coz_> nnz,   open up system/administration/synapitc package manager
[02:00] <mordof> kostkon: those two were seperate, as is the area for showing shutdown/reboot, etc
[02:00] <seth_> I am using Ubuntu Koala. When I open 'Cheese Webcam Booth", I can see the image from my webcam just fine.  However, when I go into Skype -> Options -> Video Devices -> Test, in place of video, I get a box of mostly green with horizontal lines.  Any explanations or fixes?
[02:00] <coz_> nnz,   hit Search  type  thunderbird
[02:00] <_augustinus_> Is there a diff command the only returns added/removed lines? and no ! extra info
[02:00] <Codemaster> Legendre, B3rz3rk3r: it's beyond me, though, that ubuntu lets you install ubuntu onto the RAID device, but then screws up and doesn't even utilize it
[02:00] <coz_> nnz,   you will see mozilla-thunderbiry  2.0.0.23
[02:00] <mordof> kostkon: they're seperate gnome-panel items
[02:00] <Trupsalms> help
[02:00] <Trupsalms> help
[02:00] <_augustinus_> I want to compare two lists and get the added and removed lines (changed lines can be considered as removed & added)
[02:00] <nnz> no, coz., I have to learn how to do these things the hard way.
[02:00] <AMN-Data> good day... Anybody know how i can check the log file for ftp. I want to know who and when my server have been ftp to.
[02:00] <frogzoo> _augustinus_: diff
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[02:00] <dryg> !spam | levanta
[02:00] <hajmola> seth_, did you choose the right video device in the skype options?
[02:00] <Trupsalms> does anyone know anything about asterisk
[02:01] <lonchiton> i need help to configure my network cards, on my ltsp server
[02:01] <Trupsalms> help
[02:01] <Captain-Kremmen> :/
[02:01] <_augustinus_> frogzoo, i know, but i cant find a parameter that outputs only added and removed lines
[02:01] <frogzoo> Trupsalms: ask in #asterisk
[02:01] <d9500> !ops | levanta is spamming PMs
[02:01] <nnz> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:01] <frogzoo> _augustinus_: cos you didn't read the man page
[02:01] <usser> _augustinus_, just run a grep agains two files
[02:02] <coz_> nnz,  please dont do that :)
[02:02] <seth_> hajmola, I only have on option in the list: Cemera (/dev/video0)
[02:02] <usser> _augustinus_, well actually no grep wont work
[02:02] <randomusr> spamhaus
[02:02] <nnz> please help me.
[02:02] <_augustinus_> frogzoo, i read the man pages at least 2 times :)
[02:02] <hajmola> seth_ sorry man, that's all I know about skype :)
[02:02] <Trupsalms> help
[02:02] <_augustinus_> i tried -y, -C 0
[02:02] <seth_> weak
[02:02] <B3rz3rk3r> nnz, whats the problem?
[02:02] <coz_> nnz,    sudo apt-getinstall mozilla-thunderbird
[02:02] <Trupsalms> when i try to connect to other channel it ask me to register
[02:02] <randomusr> is it possible to install packages w/o putting the cd in the drive all the time?
[02:02] <coz_> nnz,   sorry  sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[02:03] <Stavros> is there a 64-bit ubuntu netbook remix?
[02:03] <unop_> _augustinus_, what type of lists are these? and are they sorted?
[02:03] <tonyyarusso> nnz: uh, yeah, TB is in the repos.
[02:03] <Trupsalms> help
[02:03] <soblivion> randomusr, yes
[02:03] <nnz> coz ; I ahve to lean to do these thing the hard way from packages of files!!!
[02:03] <Trupsalms> help
[02:03] <scunizi> randomusr: sure..
[02:03] <lonchiton> i need help to configure my network cards, on my ltsp server
[02:03] <B3rz3rk3r> randomusr, yes, just uncheck the cs as a source
[02:03] <Trupsalms> when i try to joinany other channel it ask me to register y
[02:03] <B3rz3rk3r> cd*
[02:03] <_augustinus_> CSV  name;email
[02:03] <tonyyarusso> nnz: If you don't want to use packages, why are you using Ubuntu?
[02:03] <Captain-Kremmen> lol
[02:03] <_augustinus_> but I think ... maybe I can reformat the normal diff (without parameter)
[02:04] <buttons840> i just installed ubuntu 9.10 but vi is behaving strangely.  when in insert mode, if i press end or home keys it will inert either F or H     my keyboard works properly in all other applications, including the home and end keys
[02:04] <nnz> how  will I ever  be th programmer of the future!!!
[02:04] <scunizi> randomusr: go to System>Admin>synaptic package manager and look in the menu for the repository listings.. uncheck the CD
[02:04] <randomusr> scunizi, soblivion, B3rz3rk3r i know
[02:04] <unop_> _augustinus_,  comm might be able to help you out here then
[02:04] <mordof> kostkon: ah! i found them. volume control (duh.. missed it the first three times though), user switcher (also.. but missed it ; ;) and indicator applet (for pidgin).  the three panel items i removed
[02:04] <kostkon> nnz, keep a stable os, your ubuntu, and use another one for learning, eg. arch or gentoo?
[02:04] <Trupsalms> help
[02:04] <Trupsalms> help
[02:04] <usser> nnz, i agree with kostkon on that one, sandboxing is the key
[02:04] <B3rz3rk3r> Trupsalms, !repeat
[02:05] <kostkon> mordof, :)
[02:05] <scunizi> randomusr: I'm confused.. then why did you ask?
[02:05] <B3rz3rk3r> !repeat | Trupsalms
[02:05] <unop_> _augustinus_, e.g.   comm -1 <(sort file1) <(sort file2)
[02:05] <Captain-Kremmen> ok then maybe this one..... the prog I installed was a .deb package... :/.... where in the tree do they get installed to?
[02:05] <_augustinus_> unop_, thanks i have a look
[02:05] <randomusr> I forgot
[02:05] <unop_> Captain-Kremmen,  dpkg -L package_name
[02:05] <frogzoo> _augustinus_: diff  /tmp/a /tmp/b | egrep  '[<>]'
[02:05] <Captain-Kremmen> k.. unop_ :)
[02:06] <mordof> kostkon: i got tired of gnome-panel for my tasks.. i looked into alternatives, and found tint2 :)  lacking a couple features.. but on the whole i like it considerably better than gnome-panel.. now i just want to get an alternative to the top bar for my program launchers
[02:06] <nicle> nnz: do you use the 9.10? and the libstdc++5 has been removed from official repos, but the thunderbird package from mozilla web is still depending on it
[02:06] <nicle> nnz: so you can't run it on 9.10
[02:06] <trism> Trupsalms: some channels require registration, check out http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup to set one up
[02:07] <usser> mordof, try wbar
[02:07] <randomusr> is it possible to get the same mousewheel functionality in linux as it has in windows?
[02:07] <_augustinus_> frogzoo, thanks, I had that before ... but there was some flaw. But when I think about it again, it seems to be OK
[02:07] <hajmola> randomusr, what exactly do you mean
[02:07] <mordof> usser: i'll look into it ^^ ty for the suggestion.  i've gone through at least 10 alternatives so far, lol.
[02:07] <nnz> I hate trying to lean from wiki!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, all I have to do is know how to get programs to work from scratch, then I can teach myself most of everything else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:07] <buttons840> anyone else had trouble with vi in ubuntu 9.10?
[02:07] <_augustinus_> well thanks all frogzoo unop_, i think I'm too tired for today and will go to bed ;)
[02:07] <klong> anyone video chat in ubuntu?
[02:07] <_augustinus_> thanks for your help
[02:07] <mordof> buttons840: only that i don't know any of the hotkeys, so i always mess it up ; ; haha
[02:08] <nnz> I'm running 9.04!!!
[02:08] <usser> mordof, wbar is just that a macosx style toolbar that acts as a simple launcher, ie no window management no plugins just icons that you can click on
[02:08] <scunizi> nnz: what are you trying to understand?
[02:08] <unop_> _augustinus_, np, remember there is always the #bash channel
[02:08] <gyyg> i have a CS homework assignment. I am meant to parse a log file looking for machines that are logged as 'attacking'. what exactly should I be looking for. The file is immense
[02:08] <randomusr> hajmola, I want to click my mouse wheel and get the up/down arrows to scroll without moving the wheel
[02:08] <_augustinus_> ok thanks
[02:08] <_augustinus_> bye
[02:08] <coz_> nnz,   you could download the tar.gz file  extract that and read the  README  file as well as the INSTALL file for thunderbird
[02:08] <kostkon> mordof, aha, ok. tint2 seems nice
[02:08] <nicle> nnz:  any error logs?
[02:08] <usser> gyyg, eh cat filename | grep -v attacking
[02:08] <mordof> usser: nice, i have issues with the way gnome-panel 'autohides' .. so hopefully this will be better if it has that capability
[02:08] <unop_> usser, was cat needed there? :)
[02:09] <hajmola> randomusr, you mean not just in firefox? I believe FF does it but i'm not sure about system-wide
[02:09] <nnz> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!
[02:09] <usser> unop_, probably not,
[02:09] <unop_> nnz, you'll be kicked out soon enough ...
[02:09] <nnz> It's a damn binary program!!!
[02:09] <randomusr> hajmola, ff would be fine, but it's not working
[02:09] <scunizi> nnz: there's 1300 people in here.. not everyone follows what you're saying. They are paying attention to other threads. so what's up?
[02:10] <kostkon> nnz, then, choose some other app to compile
[02:10] <nnz> there is no make, install or whatever!!!
[02:10] <mordof> usser: essentially i'd like to auto-hide it on the left hand side seemlessly, always on top, so that the other programs are underneath, with a 1px edge
[02:10] <mordof> usser: do you know if wbar is capable of that?
[02:10] <hajmola> randomusr, You can do it in Firefox by typing in the address bar about:config and changing general.autoScroll to true
[02:10] <greezmunkey> nnz, You gonna pull those pistols, or just whistle dixie.
[02:10] <gyyg> usser: that puts out a huge output with nothing that says attacking
[02:10] <scunizi> nnz: you want ./config make makeinstall? install build-essential
[02:10] <pasteeater> i do I "refresh" bash so it knows a binary is in /usr/local/bin instead of /usr/bin?
[02:10] <pasteeater> i know it will work by simply rebooting but there must be an easier way
[02:11] <nnz> I really want to cry right now!!!
[02:11] <_o_O_> :)
[02:11] <vdub> i posted a blog with some semi useful beginners linux and ubuntu commands im new myself and needed a cheat sheet hope it might help some http://vdububuntu.blogspot.com/
[02:11] <nnz> IT. IS. A. BINARY. PROGRAM.
[02:11] <Codemaster> nnz: then run it
[02:11] <coz_> nnz,   tell me slowly what it is you want to do with tunderbird ....why you dont want to use the package manager... and why you are insisting on compiling this?
[02:11] <legend2440> randomusr: in firefox open  edit>preferences>Advanced  enable auto scrolling
[02:12]  * scunizi thinks nnz is close to having a melt down
[02:12] <deviant-route> is anyone here using Finch?
[02:12] <nnz> there is no make, install, makefile ....
[02:12] <usser> gyyg, sorry grep "attacking" test
[02:12] <scunizi> deviant-route: I have..
[02:12] <usser> gyyg, grep -v inverses the match
[02:12] <greezmunkey> randomusr, what does that do?
[02:12] <kostkon> vdub, not bad, although it reminds me of this http://fosswire.com/post/2008/4/ubuntu-cheat-sheet/
[02:12] <scunizi> nnz: you don't need that for a binary program
[02:12] <coz_> nnz,  let me download that and look hold on
[02:12] <nnz> this is my files  : http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/
[02:13] <nnz> thank you so much scunizi and coz
[02:13] <randomusr> it works the way I want to now. Thanks
[02:13] <deviant-route> scunizi, have you been able to connect to facebookchat lately?
[02:13] <usser> gyyg, i meant to say grep -i "attacking" filename, -i ignores case for matches
[02:13] <tonyyarusso> nnz: If you want to compile it, you need to download the source.  What the heck are you trying to do?
[02:13] <nicle> nnz: it's binary package, just extract it /usr/local, and run : /usr/local/thunderbird/thunderbird
[02:13] <pasteeater> logging out the user refreshes the location of new binaries, but that's just inefficient.  must be a better way.
[02:13] <scunizi> deviant-route: haven't really tried with finch.. sorry.. it's been a while
[02:13] <nnz> I really appreaciate you help
[02:13] <deviant-route> scunizi, ok
[02:13] <scunizi> nnz: why you going there when the package is available in the repos?
[02:14] <vdub> kostkon, started with his and expanded for my needs
[02:14] <Codemaster> well, thanks for the lack of help
[02:14] <kostkon> vdub, ah! right. good work then :)
[02:14] <pwnst_r> exit
[02:14] <coz_> nnz,   I have thunderbird installed here    all I did was sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[02:14] <randomusr> thanks hajmola and legen2440
[02:14] <coz_> nnz,  but let me look at the source package
[02:14] <randomusr> Codemaster, where from?
[02:14] <vdub> still work in progress but thought it might help someone frustrated or whatever
[02:14] <scunizi> nnz: then if you want you can add the lighening extension
[02:14] <iarp> is there anyway to count the number of items in a grep, but only show teh total not entire list of junk
[02:14] <nnz> scunizi ; becouse I have to learn these things if i am ever going to succseed as a programmer
[02:15] <greezmunkey> randomusr, What does autoscrolling do? I set it, and tried a page or two. Should I restart FF?
[02:15] <usser> iarp, grep match filename | wc -l
[02:15] <iarp> usser: ty
[02:15] <randomusr> greezmonkey, yet
[02:15] <lukes> or grep -c match filename
[02:15] <greezmunkey> yes?
[02:15] <iarp> usser: is that -L lower cased?
[02:15] <scunizi> nnz: ah.. I see. so you want the source and then compile the program ?
[02:15] <randomusr> greezmonkey, what type of mouse/pointing device are you using?
[02:15] <usser> iarp, yea
[02:15] <iarp> ty
[02:16] <nicle> nnz: the link(http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/) you just gave is a binary package, how can u find the src code?
[02:16] <greezmunkey> A MS w/scroller
[02:16] <nnz> scuzini ; yes.
[02:16] <usser> nnz, DO NOT, i repeat do not start your compiling experience with anything from mozilla, it is pure hell to compile
[02:17] <nnz> usser ; haha!!! lol!!!! now i find out.
[02:17] <scunizi> nnz: https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Download_Mozilla_Source_Code
[02:17] <randomusr> greezmonkey, if you click the scroller, do you get the autoscroll pointer with double arrow?
[02:18] <iarp> usser: whats the proper way to write "ll /home/user/opent/opent/ | grep *.c " now do i add "| wc -l" with without the pipe
[02:18] <nnz> usser: what would you reccomend be my first experiance?
[02:18] <nnz> ?
[02:19] <usser> iarp, ls /home/user/opent/opent | grep "*.c" | wc -l
[02:19] <usser> iarp, assuming ll in your command means ls
[02:19] <iarp> ya
[02:19] <nicle> nnz: here: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/, you can find the source of thunderbird, even for every release
[02:20] <scunizi> nnz: try ekiga's latest .. it's needed anyway for ubuntu.. you could put it on your own PPA on launchpad for others to enjoy
[02:20] <nnz> huh?... sorry usser, I blacked out, what a headache
[02:20] <greezmunkey> randomusr, Yes, weird!
[02:20] <usser> nnz, i dunno, something like xterm, or midori if you want to try to compile a browser that is actually pretty good
[02:20] <coz_> nnz,  in that extracted package is the mozilla-installer-bin
[02:20] <greezmunkey> hehe
[02:21] <randomusr> greezmonkey, it's nice to have
[02:21] <nnz> everyone, I am officialy confused, and I don't confuse easy.
[02:21] <nnz> :o
[02:21] <coz_> nnz,   you run that in a terminal with   ./mozilla-installer-bin  but you will also need to install libstdc first and perhaps other dependencies all of which are taken care of withing the repository thunderbird
[02:21] <mordof> usser: i tried to run wbar, it just says 'Using a Super Bar.'  but displays nothing..
[02:21] <buttons840> are there any configuration files for vi?
[02:22] <Guest87819> how do i change my name?
[02:22] <trism> buttons840: ~/.vimrc
[02:22] <iarp> usser: odd, it reports only 1/2 of whats actully in the folder
[02:22] <buttons840> trism, is that for vi or vim?
[02:22] <nicle_yang> GUest8781: cmd: /nick newname
[02:23] <nnz> is the any other program source code that i could get of the internet that would be ideal practise for a beginer like me?
[02:23] <buttons840> trism, whatever the case, i have no ~/.vimrc folder, nor do i have any ~/.vi* folder
[02:23] <goose> any ops around?
[02:24] <goose> levanta is PM spamming on join
[02:24] <kostkon> nnz, why not just do sudo apt-get source thunderbird (or any other package)
[02:24] <ReL1K> anyone else have a nvidia 230M and running 9.10?
[02:24] <nicle_yang> nnz: sf.net, but it has none business with ubuntu
[02:24] <brando753> guys i just installed LAMP, is there a nice and easy to use web admin panel out there, also anyone know how i can set up a pop3/smtp server
[02:24] <Tonno> there is a way that i can hide the menu that is down of the  xfwm4? (File Edit View Go Tools Help)
[02:25] <usser> mordof, try wbar -above-desk
[02:25] <nnz> #sign# :(
[02:25] <mordof> usser: i get Segmentation Fault every time i try any options ; ;
[02:25] <usser> iarp, hm
[02:25] <usser> mordof, nice :)
[02:25] <goose> I'd rather not highlight all the ops
[02:25] <mordof> usser: lol >.<
[02:25] <goose> :S
[02:26] <usser> iarp, thats strange
[02:26] <trism> buttons840: your vi is probably vim in vi compatibility mode, and ~/.vimrc is a text file, where you put your vi configuration
[02:26] <booksbuggy> my screen resolution suddenly popped into 800 by 640 is there a way to change it to 1280 by 1024?
[02:26] <iarp> usser: ya, dont worry about it now anyways, just opened a new window and did it within the folder and it reported proper number
[02:26] <mordof> usser: apparently order of params matters
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[02:28] <usser> iarp, ah sorry you have to use egrep or grep -E to be able to write stuff like grep -E -i "*.c" filename
[02:28] <buttons840> trism, it is vim
[02:28] <mordof> usser: bleh.. nevermind.  not a fan of this. it can't auto-hide from what i can tell either
[02:28] <Concretesledge> you guys have a spammer
[02:28] <usser> iarp, so in your case ls | grep -E -i "*.c" | wc -l
[02:28] <goose> !ops | levanta is PMing spam on join. Sorry for mass highlight, tried to see if anyone was around first.
[02:28] <buttons840> trism, but anyways, if i run vim with the command "vi" is it normaly to have HOME and END produce characters?
[02:28] <iarp> usser: writing to what though?
[02:28] <usser> mordof, oh well
[02:29] <usser> iarp, what do you mean writing to what?
[02:29] <iarp> usser: well you sad "use egrep or grep -E to be able to write stuff"
[02:29] <Strywgr> where to find compiz in ubuntu 9.10? its installed as showed in software center
[02:30] <nnz> :'(
[02:30] <trism> buttons840: don't know, I don't use vi compat mode, although jumping to the beginning of a line in vim is ^ and then end is $
[02:30] <Billiard> Styrbjorn: enable it from the appearance item in your prefrences menu
[02:30] <goose> why isn't ubottu working? :S
[02:30] <goose> !ops | levanta is PMing spam on join. Sorry for mass highlight.
[02:30] <Xcell> Strywgr-  install compiz-config-settings in synaptic and for extra measure install the fusion icon
[02:31] <notfoo> ...or just type compiz --replace in alt+f2
[02:31] <Addicts> Question, did the upgrade to 9.10 and now the dektop doesn't respond to my mouse wheel (before it would switch between the workspaces).  Anyone know what the option to turn that back on is called?
[02:31] <usser> iarp, i meant in order to match stuff like "*.c" you have to use egrep, grep doesnt allow regular expression, so you could write grep .c but that would give you lines where there's .c lines like hello.carl.html would be matched
[02:31] <kostkon> Addicts, i think it's a compiz feature
[02:31] <notfoo> Addicts: compiz (desktop wall i believe)
[02:31] <coz_> Addicts,  yeah that was disabled by default in ubuntu for some reason  open ccsm
[02:31] <Addicts> Kk thanks guys
[02:31] <iarp> usser: ahh gotchya ty
[02:31] <usser> iarp, i dunno if that makes it clear, you gotta excuse my english
[02:32] <coz_> Addicts,  is ccsm opened?
[02:32] <Xcell> Addicts-  its in viewport switcher.. once your there tell me
[02:32] <iarp> usser: makes sence now, i misread it and didnt realise you meant as in myself writing it
[02:32] <Addicts> Naw not at my machine ATM, on cell @ class bored
[02:32] <firenx> hey guys i just installed 9.10 on this ol' laptop and im having some problems getting my Dlink DWL-650+ pcmcia card working.. lspci shows it as Texas Instruments ACX 100 22Mbps Wireless Interface but i dont know what module to load
[02:33] <cfuentes> quex
[02:33] <nnz> grrrrrrr., I come here to learn how to compile, and all i get is a headache and a dis-will to live.
[02:33] <nnz> :(
[02:34] <coz_> Addicts,  ccsm   .. Desktop category...viewport switcher...Desktop -based Viewport switching tab...Move next  to button 4  Move Prev to button 5
[02:34] <xtsuname> Heya, was wondering, how easy is it to hack into a Linux computer with openssh-server and port 22 open on the router?
[02:34] <Salvad> Hello, does anyone know how could I launch a bash script with a keyboard button?
[02:34] <kostkon> firenx, system → admin → hardware drivers didn't show any available driver right?
[02:34] <reuben> hey guys, im running ubuntu on here but trying install arch on my other pc, the problem aint arch, trying to pacman gnome, but ent letting me install because of conflicting problems with e2fsprogs, any ideas
[02:34] <drj1> Hello- mine seems like a minor issue but I don't know terminal speak to correct it...I have to mouse left handed as my right hand doesn't work- but since I upgraded no matter what I set the mouse to in the control panel it is always right handed. I am using a laptop with a touch pad so this is a 'mouse' issue
[02:34] <usser> xtsuname, it depends on the strength of your password and whether you have root account enabled
[02:34] <snuffy47> what is the torrent setup to use on jaunty server
[02:34] <firenx> kostkon: that is correct
[02:35] <kostkon> firenx, ok. just checking
[02:35] <coz_> Addicts,  or just meet me in #compiz
[02:35] <firenx> kostkon, yeah just the laptops modem showed up there heh
[02:35] <kostkon> firenx, hmm ok
[02:35] <xtsuname> usser, what do you mean by root account enabled?
[02:36] <snuffy47> what is the torrent setup to use on jaunty server.  Can you link me to a good tutorial
[02:36] <Jeruvy> !torrent | snuffy47
[02:36] <Jeruvy> did ubottu die?
[02:37] <usser> xtsuname, ubuntu doesnt have root account by default you use sudo to gain admin permissions. Since you created a username for yourself hackers will have to actually guess your username AND the password when in the case of debian for example where root is enabled by default they only have to guess password
[02:37] <Jeruvy> snuffy47: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BitTorrent
[02:37] <booksbuggy>  can anyone help me change the resolution of my monitor?
[02:38] <xtsuname> usser, the computer is running Ubuntu, but, we can still ssh in using root@ipaddress right?
[02:38] <usser> xtsuname, in any case you shouldnt be using ssh with password authentication consider spending some time and learning about ssh and certificate based authentication
[02:38] <usser> xtsuname, no you cant
[02:38] <usser> xtsuname, root account is disabled on ubuntu
[02:39] <nnz> screw ubuntu, it's imposible to learn how to do anything on it!!!
[02:39] <usser> nnz, haha
[02:39] <MajorGeek> nnz, not true
[02:39] <MajorGeek> umm
[02:39] <nnz> what hope is left!!! :'(
[02:39] <MenZa> xtsuname: It *is* possible to enable the root abbout, but it's highly discouraged. And it's highly discouraged to allow root access via ssh on any distribution.
[02:39] <coz_> nnz,   its not ubuntu it is the user     ubuntu is as powerful as  you make it
[02:39] <Tomas_> I just started the netbook install of ubuntu and its black-screening :(
[02:39] <flan_suse> levanta is a spambot.
[02:39] <snuffy47> hmmm not one specific torrent will have to do some more reading.  This will be going on a server
[02:40] <xtsuname> usser, ah, I see, you're right. I can do it on local LAN but not from outside. and could you direct me to a site I can learn about that?
[02:40] <booksbuggy>  can anyone help me change the resolution of my monitor?
[02:40] <Bllasae> levanta: no
[02:40] <nnz> coz ; then I must be pretty fu*cking weak!!!
[02:40] <need_help> back i switch to linux i try airmon-ng display ( http://pastebin.com/m55cfee6f ) thx why it give unknown
[02:40] <flan_suse> levanta is messaging people who join this channel with a URL to download something.
[02:40] <jgoppert_> Tomas_: what netbook are you using?
[02:40] <nnz> :(
[02:40] <usser> !ssh | xtsuname
[02:40] <Bllasae> flan_suse: got it too
[02:40] <Tomas_> asus 1005 ha
[02:40] <Captain-Kremmen> night all
[02:40] <coz_> nnz,  I think a couple deep breaths  might help to relax you :)
[02:40] <usser> !ssh
[02:40] <usser> is bot dead again?
[02:40] <xtsuname> yeah
[02:40] <booksbuggy> think so
[02:40] <xtsuname> seems so
[02:40] <flan_suse> levanta needs to be kicked, since it's a spambot.
[02:41] <booksbuggy> how does this happen anyways?
[02:41] <jgoppert_> Tomas: I have karmic running on my dell mini 9
[02:41] <Tomas_> yeah good for ya, but that dont help me with my black screen of destruction lol :P
[02:41] <usser> xtsuname, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/152 thats for passwordless login with ssh
[02:41] <Xiella> weird
[02:41] <nnz> aaaarrrggghhh!!!................ ok, I think I'm ok now. :o
[02:41] <flan_suse> On Karmic, how do I hide / modify what gets displayed under the "Places" menu? I want to hide icons for devices that do not need to show under "Places" such as encrypted partitions or RAM disks, etc.
[02:42] <xtsuname> usser,  thank you very much
[02:42] <Tomas_> sigh
[02:42] <kostkon> firenx, it seems like it was dropped on 9.10? what sudo modprobe acx gives you
[02:42] <booksbuggy> Tomas_: your machine don't die when you restart gnome display manager do you :CP
[02:42] <buttons840> trism, or anyone, i don't have "vim" installed as you know it,  if i run "vim" i get "vim: command no found"   however "vi" works and "vi --version"  show me that I'm using Vim    all output can be see in my thread on ubuntu forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8283032#post8283032
[02:42] <Xiella> ubottu is flooded?  Will she come back by herself?
[02:42] <mordof> anyone have any preferences for panels that can dock on the left hand side and auto-hide to be 1px and be 'always on top' and have application launcher functionality?  i've looked through lxpanel, pypanel, wbar, and several others that i cna't remember the names of at the moment.  trying to find one i like
[02:42] <Xcell> flan_suse-  system / prefs / main menu
[02:42] <firenx> kostkon: module acx not found
[02:42] <inklings_> Hello.  Does anyone else use UNR?
[02:42] <mrXX> hey guys
[02:42] <mrXX> anybody fan of video/audio podcasts?
[02:42] <kostkon> firenx, hmm. does "iwconfig" output anything?
[02:43] <Tomas_> it died just after launching the installation
[02:43] <firenx> kostkon, nope
[02:43] <mrXX> is there any HD viedo podcasts u guys know of?
[02:43] <running_rabbit07> I just got spammed when I signed in.
[02:43] <kostkon> firenx, :(
[02:43] <flan_suse> Xcell: That's for applications though. It does not give you an option to hide devices that show up under "Places", such as encrypted partitions / volumes.
[02:43] <mrXX> there is one of wildlife from miro, but it is so short
[02:43] <drj1> Hi I really need some help if someone can spare me 5 mins- mine seems like a minor issue but I don't know terminal speak to correct it...I have to mouse left handed as my right hand doesn't work- but since I upgraded to koala no matter what I set the mouse to in the control panel it is always right handed. I am using a laptop with a touch pad so this is a 'mouse' issue- and I can't see how to force it to swap the mouse buttons for me...
[02:43] <Xcell> oh sry flan.. i misread
[02:44] <asarch> Which one is the memory reader? http://shak.pastebin.com/m6aa9941d
[02:44] <booksbuggy> Tomas_: mine dies whenever i restart it -.-
[02:44] <asarch> I cannot access to SD cards
[02:44] <Tomas_> ohhh
[02:44] <booksbuggy>  can anyone help me change the resolution of my monitor?
[02:44] <inklings_> Thing is I installed UNR about a week ago on my Aspire One, and just about everything worked ok.  I did a largish update a little while ago, and now it won't resume from suspend.
[02:44] <booksbuggy> Tomas_: so basically i can't do restart after i change the config
[02:44] <mnml> who can assit me in setting up my internet connection ( static ip )
[02:44] <mnml> ?
[02:45] <xtsuname> usser, I read the guide, it allows ssh without typing the password, but it doesn't protect against strangers trying to ssh/hack into the machine
[02:45] <a94060> booksbuggy: go to system->preferences->display
[02:45] <AaronM> anyone know how to enable the system bell again as the alert sound?
[02:45] <xtsuname> usser, is there a way to protect against unauthorized users from ssh-ing into the machine?
[02:45] <booksbuggy> a94060:  tried that
[02:45] <booksbuggy> a94060:  even with the start up manager doesn't help
[02:45] <a94060> correct drivers installed?
[02:45] <Legendre> asarch: none. Is it a USB card reader?
[02:45] <kevin__> anyone know how to get flash to work smoothly in firefox?? i'm at a loss..
[02:46] <AaronM> mnml NetworkManager dosent do it auto?
[02:46] <booksbuggy> a94060:  that i don't know how to check
[02:46] <buttons840> xtsuname, rsa authorization and passwords
[02:46] <kostkon> firenx, you could check on the driver's site http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ for any info
[02:46] <booksbuggy> let me see
[02:46] <a94060> google? Im sorry im not sure either
[02:46] <jbob> drj1: Is System -> Preferences -> Mouse -> General -> Left-handed working for you?
[02:46] <xtsuname> buttons840, do you have a guide that you know to set that up?
[02:46] <booksbuggy> well in the hardware driver i don have anything
[02:46] <mnml> AaronM : nop it doesn`t , i want to do it with specific mac adress , ip adress , gateway , subnet mask....
[02:47] <firenx> kostkon, cool thanks
[02:47] <buttons840> xtsuname, no, i dont' know a lot about it
[02:47] <mrXX> anyone knows of HD video podcasts?
[02:47] <buttons840> xtsuname, but i believe rsa can be set up so only those with the encryption key can communicate with your server
[02:47] <xtsuname> buttons840, ok, I'll try google then. thank you for the info
[02:47] <usser> xtsuname, accidently its exactly the thing it protects against, without certificates hackers cannot get to your station, and those certificates the private part of key pair should be kept secret
[02:47] <nnz> I wanna learn how to compile, what source code will i be reccomended to practise on.
[02:47] <usser> xtsuname, ie on an encrypted usb stick for example
[02:48] <usser> xtsuname, theres no way to forge a private certificate, unlike passwords which can be guessed
[02:48] <asarch> Legendre, this kind of cards: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card
[02:48] <Legendre> nnz: something simple, like gnu nano perhaps?
[02:48] <jbob> nnz: I think midori is a good starting point: apt-get source midori
[02:48] <Legendre> asarch: no, what kind of READER is it?
[02:48] <nnz> no apt get, no apt get!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:48] <kevin__> anyone know how to get flash to work smoothly in firefox?? i'm at a loss.. I've tried installing adobe's version, and performing a sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:49] <a94060> if i wanted to learn gui programming, would it be better to start off in gtk or qt?
[02:49] <jbob> nnz: apt-get source downloads the source code for you
[02:49] <drj1> Mouse not lefthanding issue- clarification- have checked the System Preferences Mouse and that isn't working- I know there is a terminal command to set the mouse as left or right...but I don't recall waht it is or how to set it...
[02:49] <xtsuname> usser, I think I might have misread. I'll re-read the guide you gave me. Thank you
[02:49] <usser> a94060, qt is much nicer to program on
[02:49] <inivex> a9406: if you're using ubuntu, gtk
[02:49] <asarch> I cannot mount those kind of cards Legendre
[02:49] <AaronM> mnml the use macchanger to change the mac then use ifconfig to set the reset
[02:49] <nnz> I am stressing out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:49] <AaronM> s/reset/rest
[02:49] <a94060> kevin__: could it be drivers that is a problem? I remember that it would lag without correct drivers
[02:50] <nnz> my mind is getting more fragile.
[02:50] <Legendre> asarch: and if you can't tell me what type of reader it is, I can't help you.
[02:50] <Legendre> asarch: last chance.. is it a USB reader or what?
[02:50] <flan_suse> On Karmic, how do I hide / modify what gets displayed under the "Places" menu? I want to hide icons for devices that do not need to show under "Places" such as encrypted partitions or RAM disks, etc. (I already know how to hide icons on the desktop.)
[02:50] <a94060> inivex,usser: Thanks. I am on ubuntu so i was thinking gtk also
[02:50] <zopiac> so i deleted a folder in my Home folder (containing only a video file) and for some reason my entire desktop folder was erased! However, the folders and desktop icons still showed up, but attempting to open them game me a Not Found error. Can anyone help? D:
[02:50] <asarch> Ok. Sorry, it is an integrated card reader Legendre
[02:50] <asarch> (From a laptop)
[02:50] <Legendre> asarch: I see.
[02:51] <kostkon> nnz, why don't you start learning some python, pygtk and check quickly also.
[02:51] <nnz> I don't know how to compile, how the hell am i going to know apt get commands!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:51] <asarch> Sorry for misunderstand your question Legendre
[02:51] <Legendre> asarch: try this. Remove the SD card, wait ten seconds. Then, insert the SD card.. wait ten seconds.
[02:51] <a94060> nnz: apt get is a ubuntu command haha
[02:51] <usser> a94060, there's also different bindings for both qt and gtk, if you dont like c which gtk is written in my personal favorite is wxwidgets+python
[02:51] <mirc-drifter> apt get is easy
[02:51] <binMonkey> hi, guys.  i got java working in chromium but i can't get it working in iron.  i tried linking directly into the iron-linux directory and into the extensions directory.  has anyone got java to work in iron?
[02:51] <nnz> koston ; ok then, just let me compile the package for python!!!!!!!!
[02:51] <Legendre> asarch: then, paste the last ten lines of dmesg
[02:51] <Legendre> asarch: got it? =)
[02:52] <asarch> yeap!
[02:52]  * asarch is waiting...
[02:52] <a94060> usser: I actually have only programmed in PHP and matlab so im thinking about learning C/C++ and was just intrested
[02:52] <kevin__> a94060, graphics/video drivers?
[02:52] <kostkon> nnz, python is an interpreted lang, you don't need to compile it
[02:52] <Salvad> Hello.
[02:52] <Legendre> asarch: pastebin, obviously..
[02:52] <a94060> kevin__: yea it could be possible that your graphics card was not detected/drivers under ubuntu werent installed. All i can think of
[02:52] <nnz> a94060 ; what the hell is your problem!!! did you even read what I typed!!!?
[02:53] <Salvad> I have a very generic keyboard.
[02:53] <ReL1K> anyone using the nvidia 230m's successfully on 9.10?
[02:53] <asarch> Of course!
[02:53] <Salvad> I don 't know the brand.
[02:53] <kostkon> nnz, ah, you mean you want to compile python?
[02:53] <kostkon> nnz, eh, apt-get source python?
[02:53] <kevin__> a94060, well i installed the reccommened NVIDIA driver when i installed ubuntu -- but it offered two (version 173, and the rec. version 185)
[02:53] <flan_suse> Legendre: I believe Texas Instrument media card readers have problems with Linux support.
[02:53] <usser> speaking of python here's a nice little util i wrote to convert videos for my mp3 player http://pastebin.com/f1576c2bf
[02:53] <usser> :)
[02:53] <flan_suse> kevin__: Go with 185.
[02:54] <kevin__> a94060, would you advise trying the other? --
[02:54] <Salvad> Is there some brandish keyboard that could be similar to mine?
[02:54] <flan_suse> kevin__: 190 is actually the latest.
[02:54] <kevin__> flan_suse, im using 185 now
[02:54] <a94060> nnz: Apologies, totally did not read what you said
[02:54] <nnz> I CAN'T TAKE THIS ANY LONGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:54] <kevin__> flan_suse, im using 185 now how do i get 90?
[02:54] <xtsuname> usser, pardon my asking but, after I set that up, can I still ssh in using other compuers as long as I have the correct username and password?
[02:54] <Jeruvy> kevin__: 186 is available fyi
[02:54] <Salvad> It has some multimedia keys at the top.
[02:54] <a94060> kevin__: I would say take the newer revision
[02:54] <inivex> 186 isn't available?
[02:54] <flan_suse> kevin__: There is an installer from Nvidia's web site for Linux.
[02:54] <kevin__> flan_suse, k i'll check this out
[02:54] <flan_suse> kevin__: I recommend completely uninstalling / disabling your current one first!
[02:55] <kevin__> flan_suse, will do, thanks
[02:55] <Legendre> flan_suse: thanks for the tip
[02:55] <usser> xtsuname, you can ssh in using other computers as long as you have your private certificate on those other computers
[02:55] <flan_suse> kevin__: I find it odd, because I have a crappy single core Celeron laptop with integrated Intel graphics and YouTube plays fine for me.
[02:55] <a94060> any reccomendations to get battery life compared to windows xp?
[02:55] <binMonkey> has anyone got java to work in the iron browser?
[02:55] <jbob> drj1: maybe you should have a look at: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/how-do-i-switch-mouse-buttons-274507/
[02:56] <Legendre> linux 2.6+firefox+flash has been an ongoing issue
[02:56] <dav_> /usr/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe: PE32 executable for MS Windows (GUI) Intel 80386 32-bit Mono/.Net assembly <= why is there a windows executable in f-spot?
[02:56] <xtsuname> usser, I deeply apologize, however I don't see where on the guide where it tells me how to block password ssh-login and change it to certificate-only log-in
[02:57] <usser> xtsuname, ie public key stays on the server you want to connect, but only computers with corresponding private key can connect to that server
[02:57] <kostkon> dav_, actually f-spot is a mono app.
[02:57] <flan_suse> kevin__: I think the Nvidia web site detects what distro you're running on (based on browser agent information).
[02:57] <dav_> kostkon: mono?
[02:57] <kostkon> dav_, and mono apps have the .exe extension
[02:57] <kostkon> dav_, yeah, the implementation of .net for linux
[02:57] <flan_suse> kevin__: With openSUSE, it gave me a link to download the installer for the 190.42 driver. But on Linux Mint 7 (Ubuntu 9.04) it gives me a link for 185.18.
[02:57] <paranoid_ndroid> when I use sudo apt-get remove [pack] does it delete the files saving max. disk space possible? ty
[02:58] <kevin__> flan_suse, hmm, i didn't see that but i found linux 190 --  i'll give it a go later tonight
[02:58] <flan_suse> paranoid_ndroid: To completely remove it, use sudo apt-get purge packagename
[02:58] <kevin__> flan_suse, people actually use mint?
[02:58] <paranoid_ndroid> ty
[02:58] <flan_suse> kevin__: Of course! I love it!
[02:58] <mint> i think...i have royally screwed my grub
[02:58] <flan_suse> kevin__: What versino of Ubuntu? 9.04?
[02:58] <brando753> guys i just installed LAMP, is there a nice and easy to use web admin panel out there, also anyone know how i can set up a pop3/smtp server
[02:58] <kevin__> flan_suse, there is such a thing as too light weight! haha .. im on 9.10
[02:59] <flan_suse> kevin__: Maybe for 9.04 they only have 185, but for 9.10 190 is available.
[02:59] <mint> ive tried everything to reinstall it but all it does is drop me to a grub prompt
[02:59] <Salvad> How can I know what model is my PS2 keyboard in Linux?
[02:59] <jorvis_> O
[02:59] <kevin__> flan_suse, i c, thanks for the help
[02:59] <paranoid_ndroid> flan_suse, so why am I using purge on kubuntu-desktop and he says that I'll save 49kB?
[02:59] <usser> xtsuname, just put PasswordAuthentication No to your /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[02:59] <Legendre> asarch: still working on it?
[02:59] <a94060> mint:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:00] <flan_suse> paranoid_ndroid: kubuntu-desktop is only a meta-package. Installing it triggers the installation for all the packages needed for a "full" Kubuntu experience.
[03:00] <paranoid_ndroid> oh, I see
[03:00] <paranoid_ndroid> I need a script then
[03:00] <flan_suse> paranoid_ndroid: Removing "kubuntu-desktop" only removes the meta-package, unfortunately.
[03:00] <kevin__> flan_suse, i c, thanks for the help
[03:00] <asarch> Please wait, my Internet connection really sucks :-( Legendre
[03:00] <flan_suse> paranoid_ndroid: Try this web site.
[03:00] <mint> does that work for GRUB2?
[03:00] <a94060> @mint:not sure at all. forums would be better bet
[03:01] <flan_suse> paranoid_ndroid: Check this site out: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[03:01] <flan_suse> kevin__: Nvidia has instructions on their download page for Linux users.
[03:01] <flan_suse> kevin__: But make sure to uninstall completely your current Nvidia drivers.
[03:01] <kevin__> flan_suse, k
[03:01] <Legendre> asarch: I'll be afk for a few min..
[03:02] <asarch> Ok
[03:02] <Legendre> asarch: PM me with the pbin addy
[03:02] <flan_suse> kevin__: It might even help if you "sudo init 3" before installing the new drivers, and then while in runlevel 3, type: sudo sh ./Nvidia-190-blah-blah.run
[03:02] <asarch> Ok
[03:02] <flan_suse> kevin__: Follow the instructions, and then finally, when it is done: sudo init 5
[03:02] <Maczimus> Hello all, How do I sort the app list alphabetically in the favorites list on UNR?
[03:03] <xtsuname> usser, do you know whether it is true that The contents of the keyfile will be appended to the file ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 for RSA keys, and ~/.ssh/authorised_keys for the older DSA key types.?
[03:03] <flan_suse> kevin__: You can even check the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to make sure it is using the "nvidia" driver, and not the "nv" driver. (nv is the open-source 2D-only driver, whereas nvidia is the propritary driver.)
[03:03] <usser> xtsuname, yea
[03:04] <flan_suse> kevin__: In the end, play it safe. Don't mess around too much.
[03:04] <flan_suse> Maczimus: Under Preferences, go to Main Menu, and change the order under "Favorites"
[03:04] <kevin__> flan_suse, heh yea -- probably using flash is not the reason im using linux
[03:04] <Maczimus> ahh ok thanks flan_suse
[03:05] <flan_suse> kevin__: I still think it's weird that on my dinky single core Celeron laptop with integrated Intel graphics, flash plays fine.
[03:05] <flan_suse> kevin__: Did you try flash in another browser? (Not that it will really make a difference, but you never know.)
[03:05] <flan_suse> kevin__: I know with Firefox, it will gradually become more and more sluggish, unless I close it and reopen the browser again.
[03:06] <kevin__> flan_suse, umm which would you reccomend? -- im using firefox
[03:06] <flan_suse> kevin__: There is Chromium, which uses the same source code as Google Chrome.
[03:06] <kevin__> flan_suse, i was under impression chromium was only in beta testing and does not yet have suppport for flash along w/ many other features
[03:07] <flan_suse> kevin__: It supports flash now.
[03:07] <flan_suse> kevin__: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[03:07] <xtsuname> usser, Cool, I got it working the way I want it to. Thank you very much
[03:07] <usser> xtsuname, no problem
[03:07] <flan_suse> You can add the Karmic Chromium PPA, and then install chromium via Synaptic Package Manager. (Install 3 packages, chromium, chromium-ffmpeg, and libv8)
[03:07] <greezmunkey> flan_suse, So Chromium is a Linux compatible Chrome? Or is Chrome available already?
[03:08] <greezmunkey> er, for Linux
[03:08] <usser> greezmunkey, chrome-unstable is available
[03:08] <flan_suse> greezmunkey: Chromium is based on the same source code, but it just doesn't have Google's branding all over it.
[03:08] <greezmunkey> got it, thanks :)
[03:08] <flan_suse> greezmunkey: In a sense, I prefer Chromium over Google Chrome.
[03:08] <usser> greezmunkey, google-chrome 4.0.237.0
[03:08] <kevin__> flan_suse, is there an easy way to install chromium or is it pretty round-about?
[03:09] <flan_suse> kevin__: You can add the Karmic Chromium PPA, and then install chromium via Synaptic Package Manager. (Install 3 packages, chromium, chromium-ffmpeg, and libv8)
[03:09] <flan_suse> kevin__: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[03:09] <usser> kevin__, or for chrome deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable main
[03:09] <greezmunkey> flan_suse, I think I'll give it a try, thanks!
[03:09] <Legendre> back
[03:09] <flan_suse> For Linux, I'd choose Chromium over Chrome. Better privacy too.
[03:10] <Newbuntu2> I'm having a problem with my partitions - I screwed up the MBR with GParted, it seems. Which is the right channel for booting problems? I posted the issue [http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=13765 ] and it seems it's just resetting a couple of bits, but don't know how to....
[03:10] <kostkon> kevin__, use the ppa. install chromium. easy. plus you'll get an update everytime there is a new ver ;)
[03:10] <sumeetbali> ubuntus first batch of updates came today anyone else happy?
[03:10] <flan_suse> http://blog.chromium.org/2008/10/google-chrome-chromium-and-google.html
[03:10] <dav_> kostkon: thx for the clarification. i had no idea :)
[03:11] <kostkon> dav_, :)
[03:11] <sumeetbali> ubuntus first batch of updates came today anyone else happy?
[03:13] <iLoveWindows> For some reason GParted gets an error when I try to format a USB flash drive to a FAT32 format
[03:13] <iLoveWindows> Any ideas?
[03:13] <r00to3> flan_suse, You dont prefer Firefox?
[03:13] <sumeetbali> USe Xp
[03:13] <flan_suse> r00to3: I use Firefox as my "main" web browser, because of all the addons I need to use.
[03:14] <flan_suse> r00to3: But for quick / fast browsing, I use Chromium.
[03:14] <buttons840> so how do i run a checksum on my ubuntu iso download before i use it?
[03:14] <sumeetbali> I am not at all a windows fan
[03:14] <flan_suse> r00to3: I actually like Chromium better than Google Chrome. It's the same browser, but with fewer privacy concerns.
[03:15] <r00to3> flan_suse, <3
[03:15] <MenZa> !md5sum | buttons840
[03:15] <iLoveWindows> Any help ? :(
[03:16] <flan_suse> iLoveWindows: What error message does it give you?
[03:16] <buttons840> what are the odds that vi is misbehaving because of a download error?
[03:17] <alex_1> hi all, I'm trying to connect my garmin nuvi 850 to my laptop. is there a soft which would show me current location? thanks
[03:17] <travisivart> Quick question regarding MBR needing to be rewritten. Will any of these guides work with 9.10, if I have Windows on a seperate disk than I originally wrote my MBR to?
[03:17] <flan_suse> travisivart: Separate disk?
[03:17] <deviant-route> someone ask me whats a good gui for Ubuntu... what should i recommend him?
[03:17] <deviant-route> firewall*
[03:18] <costal> Hi there a quick question I'm using ubuntu karmy koala and I can restart the computer I've been looking on the internet and try some fixes including rmmod to one kernel module but still not luck any idea how can I fix this ?
[03:18] <costal> can not
[03:18] <kostkon> deviant-route, firewall gui?
[03:18] <deviant-route> yes
[03:18] <kostkon> deviant-route, gufw
[03:18] <travisivart> flan_suse, basically, I will be installing windows on a separate disk, and was wondering if it will still overwrite grub in the mbr. and how I would get it back
[03:18] <iLoveWindows> wait nevermind, it worked now
 what cha trying to do?
[03:18] <iLoveWindows> weird.
[03:18] <flan_suse> Each physical hard disk has its own MBR.
[03:19] <elf_> hey
[03:19] <flan_suse> travisivart: Each physical hard disk has its own MBR.
[03:19] <iLoveWindows> Chances are it's probably corrupted the parition
[03:19] <Lint> how can I decrypt PGP message in clipboard?
[03:19] <buttons840> :(  why is there a 2 pixel wide window for selecting the boarder and resizing a window?
[03:19] <deviant-route> alright, but i just dont really see the use of a gui firewall
[03:19] <flan_suse> travisivart: You can simply tell your BIOS which hard disk to boot from, and you won't even have to worry about MBR / dual-boot issues.
[03:19] <travisivart> flan_suse, thanks so much, that's exactly what I needed to hear.
[03:20] <costal> can not?
[03:20] <elf_> I've just setup a vpn using the basic example on http://tinyurl.com/m792by and can ping the server from client although can't seem to route all the client traffic through the server, any pointers?
[03:20] <flan_suse> travisivart: That's what I do on my desktop computer. I have Windows XP installed on a separate disk, with its own MBR, and simply hold down the ESC key when I power on so I can choose which disk to boot from.
[03:20] <costal> any idea how can I fix ubuntu 9.10 doesn't restart or shutdown my computer
[03:20] <travisivart> flan_suse, and grub should be fine recognizing windows in that fashion?
[03:20] <Ded1cated> flan_suse: his question is interessting anyway. when you install windows on a second harddisk, its sure it writes mbr on first disk (or boot will fail)
[03:21] <joe___> costal-> is it a desktop or a laptop?
[03:21] <flan_suse> travisivart: If I boot from my Western Digital drive, it will boot into Windows XP. If I tell it to boot from my Samsung drive, it will boot into Linux, via Grub. (There is no entry for Windows XP in my Grub configuration, since it's not needed, as you can see.)
[03:21] <costal> laptop
[03:21] <Ded1cated> travisivart:  but as mbr gets overwritte by grub anyway, it should not be nessesary to need anything like that to chainload windows from grub
[03:22] <flan_suse> Rather than use Grub to choose what OS to boot into, I just hold down ESC and tell my BIOS what disk to boot. First disk is Windows, the other disk is Linux (Grub.)
[03:22] <travisivart> Ded1cated, well, what I would like is grub 2 to have windows in it as an option
[03:22] <Lint> how can I decrypt PGP message in my clipboard?
[03:22] <flan_suse> Ded1cated: Oh, what I do is UNPLUG ALL OTHER DISKS when installing Windows.
[03:22] <greezmunkey> flan_suse, Chromium up and running, so far so good! Check out: http://www.webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html
[03:22] <Ded1cated> flan_suse: his setup is that currently disc1 is holding the mbr to boot disk2
[03:22] <flan_suse> Ded1cated: I HATE the Windows installer. It's so primitive!
[03:22] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[03:22] <firenx> anyone gotten acx100 drivers to compile in ubuntu?
[03:23] <travisivart> flan_suse, that's what i was actually thinking about doing, is just unplugging everything while installing windows
[03:23] <greezmunkey> split!
[03:23] <flan_suse> travisivart: That's what I did. Windows uses a DANGEROUS installer.
[03:23] <Lint> flan_suse, how's that?
[03:23] <flan_suse> Ded1cated: He won't have to worry if he unplugs all other disks when installing Windows. The hard drive will have a fresh MBR for Windows, and the OTHER hard drive will be unaffected.
[03:24] <Andrew12> how do I change the resolution of my tty's, and boot screen to 1600x900, which is my monitor's native resolution?
[03:24] <Ded1cated> flan_suse: its that primitive that you know what it does :)
[03:24] <Ded1cated> flan_suse: isnt his windows already installed?
[03:24] <travisivart> flan_suse, yeah, it's terrible without a doubt. I'm just trying to think, if I unplugged all the drives, just so windows has only one drive it can see, and plug in everything else, with that drive at the lowest boot priority, and my boot at the highest, will grub see windows?
[03:24] <angelus> hi, i have a link to a bash file nap-time (with the first line #!/bin/bash) ... i placed a link to it on my panel, and its not working the way it should when i click on the link, but works fine on the terminal, someone pointed out to me taht if i were to emulate the "run in terminal" then it would work ... i need to be able to emulate the "run in terminal" ..... does anyone know how to do taht (i would test some
[03:24] <angelus> stuff out, but the script involves suspending the comp)
[03:24] <hellyes> does anyone know how to automount a shared windows drive at start-up?
[03:24] <travisivart> Ded1cated, I'm just trying to think, if I unplugged all the drives, just so windows has only one drive it can see, and plug in everything else, with that drive at the lowest boot priority, and my boot at the highest, will grub see windows?
[03:24]  * Andrew12 wonders if anyone will respond
[03:24] <flan_suse> Lint: It has a knack for defaulting to the primary master drive, even when you wish to install to a SATA drive, and it completely destroys the MBR, which might have had the information to boot into other systems. Linux, on the other hand, is graceful and will preserve the boot entries for other OSes.
[03:25] <Ded1cated> travisivart: you have to tell him where, but of course :)
[03:25] <flan_suse> greezmunkey: Yeah, I know. That's why I love Chromium.
[03:25] <Trizicus> I'm used to using ALT keys in Windows and I noticed that when I try that it doesn't work in Ubuntu. What keys do I use instead?
[03:25] <Andrew12> how do I change the resolution of my tty's, and boot screen to 1600x900, which is my monitor's native resolution?
[03:26] <wgrant> Trizicus: Alt keys? You mean typing Alt and then numbers on the numpad to enter Unicode characters?
[03:26] <greezmunkey> flan_suse, It seems to run my webmail w/o an issue, and fast!
[03:26] <Trizicus> wgrant: Yes
[03:26] <Ded1cated> flan_suse: instead of pressing f8 you could do a 2 liner in grub to "swap" the harddisks, so your windows hd appears as first when selected just as side note)
[03:26] <flan_suse> travisivart: If you want Grub to see Windows, you will have to reinstall Grub, or add it manually. But it's pointless if your BIOS allows you to choose which hard drive to boot from.
[03:26] <Trizicus> wgrant: It's unicode, not ASCII?
[03:26] <BluesKaj> hellyes, a network share or a partition on the same HDD ?
[03:26] <hellyes> a network share....
[03:26] <Newbuntu2> I'm having a problem with my partitions - I screwed up the MBR with GParted, it seems. Which is the right channel for booting problems? I posted the issue [http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=13765 ] and it seems it's just resetting a couple of bits, but don't know how to....
[03:26] <hellyes> from a windows 7 machine
[03:26] <travisivart> hm, let me see if my bios does allow that
[03:26] <Trizicus> wgrant: Nevermind about it being ASCII that only has 127 chars... But how do I unicode lol
[03:26] <wgrant> Trizicus: Yes.
[03:27] <wgrant> Trizicus: Try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey
[03:27] <travisivart> I have a pretty damn new motherboard, so I don't imagine that it should have any issues
[03:27] <wgrant> Trizicus: It's not the same, but it's much more convenient.
[03:27] <Lint> flan_suse, the only significant part of MBR is 4 partition definitions. Everything else is redundant.
[03:27] <Trizicus> wgrant: Thanks
[03:27] <hellyes> BluesKaj: I need to be able to boot ubuntu and have the windows 7 shared drive be automounted
[03:27] <flan_suse> travisivart: My Grub is pretty much "1.) openSUSE    2.) openSUSE recovery mode    3.) Memtest"  No entry for Windows XP. But, I don't need it, since I just hold ESC and tell the BIOS "Boot from my WD harddrive", which is the one with the Windows installation and MBR.
[03:27] <travisivart> flan_suse, that would also be the most easy way ever
[03:28] <hardbop200> hi! what's the proper way to disable gdm in a xubuntu 9.10? update-rc.d -f gdm remove doesn't seem to work now...
[03:28] <Lint> flan_suse, obviously Windows modifies hd0's MBR, because the computer always boots from hd0
[03:28] <mint> grub is giving me an error it says "initrd: command not found"
[03:28] <Andrew12> ping?
[03:28] <leaf-sheep> pong.
[03:28] <Andrew12> ok.
[03:28] <flan_suse> Ded1cated: There's probably other workarounds he can do too, but I find it pointless in this day and age, especially with the features motherboards have now, and the cheap prices of hard drives.
[03:28] <wgrant> Trizicus: You can just Ctrl+Shift+U <SOMENUMBERS>, then hit Enter, but you are probably better off setting up a compose key.
[03:28] <wgrant> Trizicus: That way you don't have to remember the crazy numbers.
[03:29] <travisivart> flan_suse, thanks man, i'm going to try seeing if I can just have boot options bound to a key
[03:29] <travisivart> Ded1cated, thanks for the help man
[03:29] <flan_suse> For 40 bucks I can buy a hard drive and dedicate it for Windows only. No need to mess with Grub or MBR or partitions anything. Plus, the entire drive will be dedicated, and not ruin my partition scheme on my other drives.
[03:29] <FCalderon> .org
[03:29] <ZykoticK9> hardbop200, try gdm.conf change detailed http://paste.ubuntu.com/314778/
[03:30] <Lint> wgrant, how to use Compose key?
[03:30] <Andrew12> Does anybody have any clue what the hex code is for 1600x900? (resolution)
[03:30] <Ded1cated> flan_suse: well it fits your needs maybe, but grub has more features, like remember the last used os, and im sure you dont need that much, others do :)
[03:30] <mint> anybody here good with GRUB2?
[03:30] <hardbop200> ZykoticK9: thank you, will do!
[03:30] <flan_suse> Ded1cated: You kind of see what I mean? I think "dual-booting" between Windows and Linux on the same drive is out-dated. Drives are cheap, motherboards are smart. Not worth the hassle, really.
[03:31] <wgrant> Lint: Configure a key to act as the compose key (System->Preferences->Keyboard->Layouts->Layout Options->Compose key position).
[03:31] <flan_suse> Ded1cated: I understand. I'm just more "to-the-point", that's all.
[03:31]  * Andrew12 hates it when people don't respond to what he's saying
[03:31] <wgrant> Lint: Then Compose+' A will create Á, and that sort of thing.
[03:31] <flan_suse> Ded1cated: And look at what happens when you resize an NTFS partition, Windows has a fit!
[03:32] <Ded1cated> flan_suse: my "2 os on one disk" re-install is 2 weeks old, its absolutely not outdated. before it wasnt diffrent. switched from a raptor to a ssd
[03:33] <flan_suse> Ded1cated: Hey, whatever works for each person. But we probably shouldn't go on a tangent in this channel. greezmunkey, enjoy Chromium, by the way! And I'm off to bed. Night.
[03:33] <mirc-drifter> andrew12, calculate it
[03:33] <Ded1cated> flan_suse: according to ntfs resize, you always need a clean windows boot before (since last ntfs modification) and i personally never had problems with ntfs resize under linux
[03:33]  * shrike-9 cumprimenta
[03:33] <BluesKaj> hellyes, this might work for you , nothing guranteed with W7 tho : http://www.ghacks.net/2009/04/19/auto-mounting-a-samba-share-in-linux/
[03:33] <Lint> is there an application for using gpg with Clipboard?
[03:33] <Ded1cated> flan_suse: sure, just wanted to show that other peops have completely other views :)
[03:33] <greezmunkey> flan_suse, g'night.
[03:34] <jenia> hey guys
[03:34] <jenia> does anyone here watches the universe?
[03:34] <txwikinger> Anybody experience this network delay bursts with karmic on MacBook (ath5k driver)
[03:34] <greezmunkey> txwikinger, TOO CLOUDY TONIGHT, BUT OTHERWISE YES;]
[03:34] <BluesKaj> jenia, multiverse/universe /
[03:35] <greezmunkey> CAPS! sorry...
[03:35] <txwikinger> greezmunkey: too cloudy?
[03:35] <Out_Cold> so i just started getting this systray icon that states "Session active, not inhibited, screen idle. blah, blah talk to distributor. See http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/08/17/gnome-power-manager-and-blanking-removal-of-bodges/   <--- this is a rollover pop-up and I can't click on the icon or understand what it's referring to
[03:35] <greezmunkey> txwikinger, I was kidding with you.
[03:36] <GodfatherofEire> Guys, is there any way to sync Ubuntu's time with a timeserver or something?
[03:36] <huliupeng> me
[03:36]  * huliupeng 
[03:36] <Ded1cated> GodfatherofEire: sure. ntp is the keyword here
[03:36] <shrike-9> ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[03:36] <greezmunkey> GodfatherofEire, check out NTP servers
[03:36] <GodfatherofEire> Thanks guys
[03:36] <buttons840> what can i do when i'm "not authorized" to mound a usb drive?
[03:36] <shrike-9> wlcm
[03:36] <buttons840> mount*
[03:36] <NetEcho> I usualy use time-a.nist.gov
[03:36] <BluesKaj> !pm | jenia
[03:37]  * huliupeng 
[03:37] <innomen> is there some way i can see what processes are accessing a given drive?
[03:37] <greezmunkey> pool.ntp.org seems to always be "available", it's the only one I use.
[03:37] <innomen> i have a totally blank unmounted drive that spins up for no reason at random
[03:37] <Ded1cated> innomen: iostat or iotop
[03:37] <shrike-9> NetEcho, using ntp.org servers is more....  and they are mainly alias for õther servers, like nist
[03:37] <jenia> sorry
[03:38] <Andrew12> does anybody know how to change a tty's resolution?
[03:38] <txwikinger> nobody?
[03:38] <Out_Cold> buttons840, open terminal and mount using sudo mount /dev/sd<disk> /place/to/mount
[03:38] <GodfatherofEire> Does ubuntu auto-update the time or do I have to do that manually every once in a while?
[03:38] <Ded1cated> Andrew12: framebuffer
[03:38] <Andrew12> what's that?
[03:38] <jenia> i dont know if its appropriate to talk about it here, but i'm wondering if anyone here watches "the universe", the show
[03:38] <greezmunkey> txwikinger, what are you looking for?
[03:38] <wgrant> !offtopic | jenia
[03:39] <jenia> ok, thank you
[03:39] <Andrew12> Ded1cated: What is framebuffer?
[03:39] <greezmunkey> !jenia
[03:39] <Ded1cated> Andrew12: the way to get a higher console resolution. use it as keyword on the ubuntu wiki page
[03:39] <txwikinger> a solution for those network delays
[03:39] <txwikinger> very  annoying
[03:39] <innomen> Ded1cated, this just tells me how much is being read not what is doingt he reading
[03:39] <tovella> jenia: is "the universe" something that pertains to Ubuntu?
[03:39] <Andrew12> oh ok, i'll try that
[03:40] <Nautilus> I'm installing 8.04 onto a drive with XP already on it (desiring GRUB dual boot), and have manually defined a partition for ubuntu in it's setup, but it tells me "no root filesystem defined". Do I have to specify a Mount Point? (default is blank)
[03:40] <buttons840> Out_Cold, "you must specify the file type"
[03:40] <jbob_> GodfatherofEire: Have a look at System -> Administration -> Time and Date -> Keep synchronized with Internet Servers
[03:40] <Out_Cold> buttons840, what are you trying to mount?
[03:40] <wgrant> Nautilus: Specify a mountpoint of '/'
[03:40] <buttons840> Out_Cold, usb drive, fat32
[03:40] <wgrant> Nautilus: (that's the root)
[03:40] <Nautilus> wgrant: ok, no /boot?
[03:40] <jenia> no, its a tv show about the universe
[03:40] <Nautilus> s/no/not/
[03:40] <buttons840> Out_Cold, I believe it's dev/sdb
[03:40] <wgrant> Nautilus: No need.
[03:40] <Ded1cated> innomen: ah sorry. fuser /dev/sda1 or lsof /dev/sda1
[03:40] <Nautilus> ok then /
[03:40] <ares623> just installed Dropbox.. where is the Dropbox folder created?
[03:41] <Out_Cold> buttons840, is that a usb drive? is it ext3 or fat?
[03:41] <shrike-9> ares623, ~/.dropbox
[03:41] <smartasstronaut> when i try to boot i get a "Serial 8250: too much work for irq 17" error, any suggestions?
[03:41] <wgrant> ares623: Dropbox isn't part of Ubuntu; you'd be better off asking the Dropbox people.
[03:41] <buttons840> Out_Cold, ^ fat32
[03:41] <shrike-9> iirc
[03:41] <Nautilus> wgrant: Also I want a swap partition, what Mount Point for that?
[03:41] <innomen> Ded1cated, both of those commands executed without result on the drive in question sdb
[03:41] <Ded1cated> smartasstronaut: switch plug n play bios setting for pci irq, and disable all unused devices (like serial und parallel port)
[03:42] <Lint> is there an application for using gpg with Clipboard?
[03:42] <Out_Cold> buttons840, is it usb drive or hard drive?
[03:42] <wgrant> Nautilus: Swap isn't mounted as such. I think you should be fine just setting the type to swap.
[03:42] <smartasstronaut> thanx i'll try that
[03:42] <Andrew12> Ded1cated: the page I'm looking at (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer) doesn't have my resolution (1600x900)
[03:42] <buttons840> Out_Cold, it is a usb flash drive
[03:42] <wgrant> Lint: Probably, but why not just paste it into a terminal?
[03:42] <Ded1cated> innomen: i know that from experience, searched and did not found any other way to show up the "rest"
[03:42] <buttons840> Out_Cold, I'm trying to determine which of the /dev/????  it is
[03:42] <greezmunkey> Hey! Anyone know about *nix hacks for wifi routers, what should I search on...?
[03:43] <Lint> wgrant, because terminal is from 60s?
[03:43] <Out_Cold> buttons840, try sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /mount/point
[03:43] <innomen> Ded1cated, so there is no way to determine what app keeps decided to take a look at my unmounted blank drive
[03:43] <Andrew12> greezmunkey: you should go into a different channel... and try google.
[03:43] <Out_Cold> buttons840, you need to have the directory already made
[03:43] <Ded1cated> Andrew12: there are some additional codes for resolution, but they didnt work for me either. cant use native resolution (1440x900) too
[03:44] <innomen> greezmunkey, http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/index
[03:44] <hayden_M> Hello there, I've just purchased a new laptop and installed Ubuntu on it -- Everything's working great, except power management. My power button and laptop lid actions don't work, such as suspending. Any suggestions?
[03:44] <Andrew12> Ded1cated: Ah.
[03:44] <buttons840> Out_Cold, thanks,   funny enough, when i mounted to a folder, the usb shortcut then shows up
[03:44] <Out_Cold> buttons840, sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/external -o uid=1000,gid=100,utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137 is the command taken from help.ubuntu.com and gives your user proper permissions
[03:44] <Jordan_U> innomen: If you think that some userland process is trying to access it as a block device you can do "sudo fuser /dev/whatever"
[03:44] <Ded1cated> innomen: there cant be much when not mounted and blank. maybe there isnt anything at all?
[03:45] <innomen> Jordan_U,  i did that no result, its a totally blank drive
[03:45] <Out_Cold> buttons840, that happens ;)
[03:45] <Ded1cated> Andrew12: there are diffrent framebuffer "drivers", some are capable with custom resolutions, but i think they dont always run with closed graphic drivers.
[03:45] <innomen> Ded1cated, if there is nothing at all then why does it spin up? i have the hdparm set to spin down afetr 5 minutes and yet it staying hot, it spins up and down at random it seems
[03:45] <Jordan_U> innomen: Try looking in dmesg when it spins up or when you plug it in ( if it's external )
[03:45] <innomen> Jordan_U, its internal
[03:46] <innomen> dmesg?
[03:46] <Jordan_U> innomen: Kernel messages
[03:46] <Out_Cold> so i just started getting this systray icon that states "Session active, not inhibited, screen idle. blah, blah talk to distributor. See http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/08/17/gnome-power-manager-and-blanking-removal-of-bodges/   <--- this is a rollover pop-up and I can't click on the icon or understand what it's referring to
[03:46] <innomen> Jordan_U, this si new to me, where do i find this?
[03:46] <Jordan_U> innomen: Just run "dmesg"
[03:46] <greezmunkey> Andrew12, I appreciate your efforts to keep the channel clean, but I'll decide what is appropriate for me to ask. If you are an Op I apologize, otherwise...
[03:46] <Ded1cated> innomen: there is a tool (developed for notebooks) to show what causes disk wakeups. cant remember the name atm
[03:46] <mezquitale> !bugs
[03:46] <innomen> ok it just spun down
[03:47] <innomen> Ded1cated, if you do please tell me
[03:47] <Jordan_U> innomen: That will spit out a lot of kernel messages though, to get just the last few lines try "dmesg | tail" or to scroll through it "dmesg | less"
[03:47] <cje> testing colors
[03:47] <Jordan_U> innomen: powertop
[03:47] <innomen> Jordan_U, thank you, i'll do that
[03:47] <innomen> powertop?
[03:47] <buttons840> Out_Cold, i still have no permissions, i'm trying to remember format command, how can i format the drive to fat32?
[03:48] <innomen> reading
[03:48] <Jordan_U> innomen: That is the tool I think Ded1cated was thinking of
[03:48] <cje> testing colors
[03:48] <BioVore> holy cow!!!!
[03:48] <innomen> Jordan_U, you're right
[03:49] <buttons840> how can i format a drive from terminal?
[03:49] <pinkhat> Synaptic is only showing me caniocal maintained packages.  how can I install non-free software from the repositories?
[03:49] <Ded1cated> innomen: Jordan_U: yeah i think its powertop
[03:49] <Jordan_U> pinkhat: System > Administration > Software Sources
[03:49] <buttons840> pinkhat, poke around in the options, i think there is an enable option for non-free software
[03:49] <Ded1cated> pinkhat: "software sources"
[03:50] <nicle>   buttons840: mkfs.*
[03:50] <Out_Cold> buttons840, it may be easier if you do it in gparted but i *think* the command is mkfs.msdos -F 32 /dev/sdb
[03:51] <gordiegii> Karmic won't remember my resolution settings
[03:51] <Arv3n> Hello. My system freezes for around 10-20 seconds at the start of bootup. Does anyone know why? It dramatically increases my boot time. I have an nForce 430 motherboard.
[03:51] <JoeSomebody> if my username is joe, what is the path to my folder? how do i show this in nautilis?
[03:51] <Ded1cated> JoeSomebody: /home/joe
[03:51] <scunizi> JoeSomebody: nautilus will open in /home/joe
[03:51] <Out_Cold> JoeSomebody, the path is /home/joe/ or ~/joe/
[03:51] <arand> I'm trying to configure abiword (2.8, and yes compiling is the only way it seems), and it hangs on "checking if gcc static flag -static works..." and hasn't moved in 5min, anyone knows what to do here?
[03:52] <Ded1cated> Arv3n: check /var/log/messages and "dmesg" around the freeze
[03:52] <wgrant> Out_Cold: ~ or ~joe, not ~/joe.
[03:52] <pinkhat> Thanks, Jordan_U and Ded1cated
[03:52] <angelus> Out_Cold and JoeSomebody : its just ~ not ~/joe/
[03:52] <Jordan_U> pinkhat: np
[03:52] <Arv3n> Ded1cated, its an acpi thing i think. i use the option acpi=off and it boots perfectly (no freeze).k
[03:52] <Out_Cold> oh yea.. sorry ~/ is /home/joe/
[03:53] <buttons840> using gparted reminds me of the time i deleted the firmware from my sansa :)
[03:53] <kevin__> hey baby
[03:53] <skyl> how can I tell which dev I am currently booted on?
[03:53] <Ded1cated> Arv3n: would use google to find peops with same problem on same mainboard, or let it disabled
[03:53] <innomen> Ded1cated, Jordan_U this app is awesome, thank you.
[03:53] <cje> testing colors
[03:53] <JoeSomebody> ok thanks
[03:53] <Ded1cated> skyl: mount will show you that
[03:53] <Jordan_U> skyl: "mount" in a terminal and look at what device "/" is mounted from
[03:54] <buttons840> Jordan_U, you mean "mount -l"  ?
[03:54] <skyl> woot Jordan_U Ded1cated
[03:54] <wgrant> buttons840: -l just shows labels, which aren't really relevant here.
[03:55] <Ded1cated> hehe i make a break, Jordan_U your free to not repeat my answers now :D
[03:55] <cje> colors
[03:55] <skyl> I have a disk with MANY BAD SECTORS
[03:55] <skyl> nothing important is on this disk
[03:56] <scunizi> skyl: back up backup bkup.. replace
[03:56] <cje> test
[03:56] <wgrant> cje: Colours are disabled in this channel.
[03:56] <skyl> so, there is no way to save this bum disk?
[03:56] <wgrant> skyl: It's possible that your disk is lying.
[03:56] <scunizi> cje: testing is not allowed
[03:56] <Nautilus> skyl: warranty?
[03:56] <wgrant> skyl: Some disks do.
[03:56] <broken> yo
[03:56] <broken> how goes it
[03:57] <skyl> I can't just wipe it ... these are physical problems?
[03:57] <broken> gotta leave, I'm gonna say peace
[03:57] <freaky[t]> what is a good irc client for ubuntu?
[03:57] <cje> scunizi, sorry, how do you suggest that I test colors in Xchat?  I am new.
[03:57] <wgrant> skyl: Physical problems, yes.
[03:57] <Nautilus> sky1: try GSmartControl on it to see the smart errors?
[03:57] <wgrant> cje: Some other channel. Colours will not work in here.
[03:57] <cje> I can't see the colors that I am typing, because they are too dark.
[03:57] <buttons840> i just formated my flash drive to fat32 using gparted, i also ensured there were no flags on the partition (there is only one partition on the flash drive)    i get "unable to mount 2.0 gb filesystem not authorized" when trying to mount it...   can i not use usb drives with default permissions?
[03:57] <wgrant> cje: But using coloured text will not get you well-liked.
[03:57] <scunizi> cje: not really sure.. I use a terminal irc client (irssi)
[03:57] <nicle> freaky[t]: I am using chatzilla
[03:57] <Out_Cold> cje, try connecting to a social network not a support net
[03:57] <nicle> freaky[t]: it's a plugin of firefox
[03:58] <cje> wgrant, as far as I know, I am only changing the colors on my end, right?
[03:58] <Nautilus> cje: just make your own #cje-channel
[03:58] <buttons840> #testing
[03:58] <wgrant> cje: It depends which setting you're changing.
[03:58] <freaky[t]> nicle: ah ok i dont want to use a firefox plugin as irc client i want a complete own client for ubuntu
[03:58] <Out_Cold> cje, that's client dependent
[03:58] <l337ingDisorder> I'm hoping someone can help.. Just installed 9.10 and having trouble with the nvidia x server settings applet. I can set up my display configuration fine, but when I try to click 'Save to X Configuration File' it says "Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!" then when I reboot all my settings are lost. Can anyone help?
[03:58] <nicle> freaky[t]: ok, please try xchat
[03:58] <cje> Out_Cold, I am using xchat
[03:58] <bao_> does ubuntu apache use conf.d?
[03:58] <Xcell> run it as root
[03:58] <r00to3> anybody know the sudo timeout session cmd?
[03:59] <freaky[t]> nicle: hm i dont like xchat :(
[03:59] <r00to3> or how to change the time?
[03:59] <freaky[t]> nicle: but ill have a look at it
[03:59] <Out_Cold> cje, i believe any changes done in preferences are only on your end..
[03:59] <cje> Out_Cold, do you have any suggestions for a social networking channel?
[04:00] <Out_Cold> irc.icq.com
[04:00] <scunizi> cje: #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[04:00] <dylan_> can anyone tell me w hat the fastest dns servers are?
[04:00] <nicle> nicle: another option : irssi, a text mode irc client :)
[04:00] <nicle> freaky[t]:  another option : irssi, a text mode irc client :)
[04:00] <scunizi> dylan_: I've never had issues with opendns.com
[04:00] <freaky[t]> yea i dont like irssi
[04:01] <dylan_> is it faster then 4.2.2.2?
[04:01] <blackberry> Anyone know how to disable sudo timeout in the new 9.10??? don't see the normal line in visudo like from 8.04
[04:01] <scunizi> freaky[t]: with screen it's great.. but it takes a while to get use to it
[04:01] <freaky[t]> i know i still dont like it ;D
[04:01] <freaky[t]> i want a good irc client for xchat
[04:01] <freaky[t]> i mean, gnome
[04:02] <rubix> What version of flash player do i get for ubuntu 9.1?
[04:02] <greezmunkey> 1337ingDisorder, There is a nvidia specific command to reconfigure xorg.conf... I'd have to look for it.
[04:02] <Billiard> blackberry: try adding the line
[04:02] <bastidrazor> freaky[t]: irssi is the best irc client regardless of DE
[04:02] <greezmunkey> hold on, I'll see.
[04:02] <blackberry> Billiard: the line that's missing?
[04:02] <bao_> does ubuntu apache use conf.d?
[04:02] <kostkon> rubix, install it from the repos. the package is flashplugin-nonfree
[04:03] <blackberry> Billiard: used to be like "Defaults env_reset,timestamp_timeout=-1  (or somin like that)"
[04:03] <Wesgizmo365> Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me. I just finished building a computer for the first time, and am trying to install ubuntu on it (obviously). However, the screen keeps saying "operating system not found," and I have no clue what to do.
[04:03] <Billiard> blackberry: yes if its not there add in timestamp_timeout=-1
[04:03] <rubix> kostkon, so sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:03] <kostkon> rubix, yeap, or use synaptic
[04:03] <Bell_Labs> Wesgizmo365: go into the bios and change the boot order
[04:03] <Wesgizmo365> already did that, Bell_Labs.
[04:03] <blackberry> Billiard: so won't hurt to add that entire line? "Defaults timestamp_timeout=-1" ?
[04:04] <Wesgizmo365> I'll try again though.
[04:04] <rubix> kostkon, brand new to ubuntu, explain.
[04:04] <Billiard> blackberry: shouldnt hurt
[04:04] <Bell_Labs> Wesgizmo365: also check your installation media, preferably with an md5 hash
[04:04] <enav> Hi all
[04:04] <kostkon> !software | rubix
[04:04] <blackberry> Billiard: thx, will try & not f*#& it up ;P
[04:04] <greezmunkey> 1337ingDisorder, check out :http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/148082-solved-empty-xorg-conf-ubuntu.html
[04:04] <enav> Hi all
[04:05] <Billiard> blackberry: use visudo to edit the file, in case you dont know
[04:05] <blackberry> ya, i know. thx tho
[04:05] <kostkon> rubix, also check http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware
[04:05] <enav> Can some one help me?
[04:05] <knoppies> !ask
[04:05] <angelus> !help| enav
[04:05] <Wesgizmo365> Bell_labs: how do I check that?
[04:06] <enav> se above???
[04:06] <Bell_Labs> Wesgizmo365: reboot and try pressing F* keys
[04:06] <Bell_Labs> such as f8, f2, f12
[04:06] <knoppies> !ask | enav
[04:06] <angelus> ask the question enav
[04:06] <enav> ok thanks
[04:06] <Silent_Echo> enav for example my question : whats the best karaoke program for ubuntu
[04:06] <enav> before came here i try to investigate and fix the problem by miselft  but cant do this
[04:07] <greezmunkey> 1337ingDisorder, here is a SAMPLE xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/314795/
[04:07] <blackberry> Billiard: odd, swore it wasn't there before (the Defaults line) ... guess it was. =)  works. thx again
[04:07] <knoppies> enav, we listening
[04:07] <enav> i cant save X conf   setting using  the gksudo nvidia-settings
[04:07] <freaky[t]> i got another question. i installed kubuntu and now want to switch to ubuntu. ive installed the ubuntu-desktop package but is there a way to completely remove kubuntu and kde stuff?
[04:07] <Billiard> blackberry: np
[04:07] <kevin_> I use my laptop with an external monitor when at home and by itself when I am on the move.  The icons on the top menu bar in gnome always get scrambled when I switch.  Is there a way to make this more manageable.  My laptop screen is 1024x600 and my external screen is 1440x900
[04:07] <enav> it show me a error of parsing  mistakes
[04:07] <Wesgizmo365> To install from a CD, you have to put Removable Devices above everything else, correct? Or would I put ATAPI CD-ROM at the top?
[04:07] <greezmunkey> 1337ingDisorder, That one is nvidia specific, hope it helps...
[04:08] <knoppies> enav, do you mean xorg.conf?
[04:08] <enav> yah
[04:08] <ZykoticK9> !puregnome | freaky[t]
[04:08] <enav> the nvidia-settings  does work propertly on 9.10
[04:09] <freaky[t]> thank you very much!!
[04:09] <Fraxtil> I decided to backup my entire ubuntu server to a flash drive, then wipe the disk, recreate the partitions, and dump the backup again, but now grub is broken. Is there some way I can fix it?
[04:09] <booksbuggy> well i installed that nvidia driver for linux but now i have a bigger problem
[04:09] <nicle> freaky[t]: uninstall all the KDE packages with synaptic
[04:09] <knoppies> enav, this is how I did mine (on 9.04)
[04:09] <kevin_> I use my laptop with an external monitor when at home and by itself when I am on the move.  The icons on the top menu bar in gnome always get scrambled when I switch.  Is there a way to make this more managable.  My lapptop screen is 1024x600 and my external screen is 1440x900 (sorry if I doubleposted, I don't know if it went thorugh the first time because my laptop disconnected.
[04:09] <enav> i can activate the twenview but cant  save changes
[04:09] <Billiard> enav: maybe try renaming your xorg.conf to back it up and let nvidia-config create one from scratch, if you dont have any customizations in your xorg.conf
[04:09] <ctmjr> enav: sudo nvidia-xconfig --force then gksu nvidia-settings you only need to run then nvidia-xconfig script once
[04:09] <booksbuggy> anyone using the "NVIDIA-Linux-x86-185.18.36-pkg1" package in ubuntu 9.04?
[04:09] <enav> ok
[04:10] <freaky[t]> are u guys using other styles than the default for gnome? like other icons/window borders and so on?
[04:10] <wgrant> booksbuggy: You want to use System->Administration->Hardware Drivers, not the downloads directly from nvidia.
[04:10] <enav> i tryed that before  and does work
[04:10] <angelus> freaky[t] i am ....
[04:10] <knoppies> freaky[t], yea I am
[04:10] <booksbuggy> wgrant: the problem is that the hardware driver doesn't have anything
[04:10] <nicle> freaky[t]: I am using the sytle: clearlook, and it's clean, nice
[04:10] <Wesgizmo365> Does it matter if I use a DVD-ROM instead of a CD-ROM to put ubuntu on to install it at first?
[04:10] <freaky[t]> hm ok. ... ill have a look at stuff i find looking nice ;D
[04:11] <ctmjr> !who | enav
[04:11] <booksbuggy> wgrant: not a single driver was listed
[04:11] <booksbuggy> wee ubottu is back
[04:11] <iLoveWindows> ok back.
[04:11] <knoppies> freaky[t], look for compiz
[04:11] <ctmjr> Wesgizmo365: no it does not matter
[04:11] <freaky[t]> knoppies: i think compiz is isntalled by default here
[04:11] <freaky[t]> *installed
[04:11] <Wesgizmo365> ctmjr: thank you
[04:11] <booksbuggy> well now my computer is doing stuff in CRT style -.-
[04:11] <iLoveWindows> I'm still having trouble with gparted. It gives me an error when I try to create a FAT32 partition
[04:11] <Billiard> iLoveWindows: the error?
[04:12] <iLoveWindows> I don't know
[04:12] <iLoveWindows> thats the other problem
[04:12] <knoppies> freaky[t], if you use synaptic-package-manager, then install the compiz advanced settings manager. yes it is
[04:12] <iLoveWindows> it lets me save some type of log but I don't see it.
[04:12] <enav> ubottu   i tryed  to do that before  but does work
[04:12] <iLoveWindows> its either hidden in which case I don't know how I would make it visible again
[04:12] <freaky[t]> knoppies: ok thanks ill write thtat down
[04:12] <Billiard> iLoveWindows: what does the error say
[04:13] <greezmunkey> !Intelligent
[04:13] <enav> some one have a good idea to get nvidia setting   work propertly??
[04:13] <knoppies> freaky[t], its called Compiz configuration settings manager in synaptic
[04:13] <iLoveWindows> it errored on
[04:13] <Billiard> enav: you just said it does work, but now you say it doesnt work?
[04:13] <freaky[t]> ok thanks
[04:14] <greezmunkey> enav, I have a GforceGo in my laptop, what do you need?
[04:14] <knoppies> freaky[t], wait, I meant compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:14] <enav> yesh sorry  doenst
[04:14] <enav> my englis is a little bad
[04:14] <greezmunkey> I can paste my xorg.conf, if it will help...
[04:14] <enav> Englis
[04:14] <iLoveWindows> mkdosfs -F32 -v -n "" /dev/sdc1
[04:15] <Billiard> enav: like ctmjr said , sudo nvidia-xconfig --force then gksu nvidia-settings you only need to run then nvidia-xconfig script once, does this work for you?
[04:15] <enav> No at all
[04:15] <iLoveWindows> is there an alternative to gparted?
[04:15] <MrSchmo> anyone figure a fix to samba accessing windows 7 share?
[04:15] <Billiard> enav: nvidia settings does the same thing?
[04:15] <knoppies> freaky[t], if you looking for icons/borders have a look at gnome-loog.org
[04:15] <n8tuser> iLoveWindows-> fdisk  cfdisk sfdisk
[04:15] <enav> i want to setup  dual monitor but the gksudo nvidia-settings  cant save the changes
[04:16] <freaky[t]> ok thanks
[04:16] <knoppies> freaky[t], I cant spell today. I meant http://www.gnome-look.org/
[04:16] <freaky[t]> knoppies: ok thanks ;D
[04:16] <iLoveWindows> n8tuser: how do I go about (command wise) formatting a USB Flash drive with FAT32 file system
[04:16] <Billiard> enav: after running, sudo nvidia-xconfig --force , you still have the problem  ?
[04:16] <iLoveWindows> on /dev/sdc1
[04:16] <enav> humm
[04:16] <iLoveWindows> with cfdsik
[04:17] <enav> i didt try that
[04:17] <n8tuser> iLoveWindows-> you can use fdisk, then from the menu you select the code for fat32, i think 82.. but check the menu to be sure
[04:17] <Billiard> enav: we told you to try it a few times now
[04:17] <enav> ok
[04:17] <greezmunkey> Billiard, That's what I was looking for (pasted for future reference), thanks!
[04:17] <enav>  sudo nvidia-xconfig --force  ?????
[04:17] <ZykoticK9> enav, in a terminal (Applications/Accessories/Terminal) type the following (NOT the $s) - http://paste.ubuntu.com/314805/
[04:17] <Billiard> enav: correct
[04:19] <enav> this shows a error  message
[04:19] <Silent_Echo> kostkon, i thank your for yesterday helping me with my sound card, so much better without the popping sound, and my friend said that there is a way to get my webcam to work on 9.10 without buying another webcam, someone in an irc helped him with his
[04:19] <ctmjr> ZykoticK9: you do not need to back it up anymore when you run nvidia-xconfig it backs up the old one
[04:19] <enav> nvidia-xconfig: unrecognized option: "--force"
[04:19] <Billiard> enav: do what ZykoticK9 says
[04:19] <n8tuser> iLoveWindows->  fdisk , then from the menu select l  to list the types
[04:19] <kostkon> Silent_Echo, :)
[04:19] <iLoveWindows> hmm
[04:19] <ZykoticK9> ctmjr, i didn't know that - was just doin' it for safety
[04:21] <greezmunkey> ZykoticK9, I tried that as well, typing you URL into a terminal, didn't do anything, maybe sudo...? Just asking
[04:21] <ctmjr> ZykoticK9: that is probably a good idea you never know
[04:21] <ZykoticK9> greezmunkey, URL?  that's to open in a web browser to look at
[04:21] <greezmunkey> RE: enav, in a terminal (Applications/Accessories/Terminal) type the following (NOT the $s) - http://paste.ubuntu.com/314805/
[04:22] <booksbuggy> the driver of nvidia doesn't change my resolution
[04:22] <booksbuggy> it changed the virtual dimension of the screen
[04:22] <enav> ok im going
[04:22] <suleman> !smb
[04:22] <kevin_> I upgraded to Karmic the other day, and my wireless signal strength flickers between 1% and 100% or whatever other values are present.  It's rather annoying.  Has anyone else encountered this?  I ran a google search, and didn't find anything helpful.  Running an eeepc 1000HEB
[04:22] <suleman> wats the syntax of smb
[04:22] <Lint> how to use 'set' command?
[04:22] <greezmunkey> ZykoticK9, I thought I was missing something!
[04:22] <ctmjr> my mistake people it is --force-generate
[04:23] <booksbuggy> can anyone tell me how to change the resolution instead of the dimension?
[04:23] <greezmunkey> ctmjr, !
[04:23] <suleman> wats the syntax of smb
[04:23] <Billiard> Lint:    help set
[04:23] <ZykoticK9> greezmunkey, enav the command would be "cd /etc/X11 && sudo mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup && sudo nvidia-xconfig" if you want it on one line in the channel...
[04:23] <catamarquence> whats linux-backports-modules about?
[04:24] <slide> My keypad is acting weird. It seems to be controlling the mouse and I want to use it as a num pad
[04:24] <wgrant> catamarquence: Newer versions of various drivers.
[04:24] <booksbuggy> slide: check and see if the num lock is on
[04:24] <iLoveWindows> yeah fdisk is not really working for me. I just wish I can find a GUI oriented partition manager. I don't know why gparted keeps giving me an error every time I try to format the USB drive into the FAT32 File system
[04:24] <Silent_Echo> question to the room: what is the most user friendly karaoke program for ubuntu?
[04:24] <bastidrazor> slide: ctrl + alt + shift + numlock .. my keypad does the same thing at times.
[04:24] <slide> booksbuggy, even when the num lock is on it still controls the cursor instead of priting numbers
[04:24] <greezmunkey> ZykoticK9, my bad, I didn't see that pert of the post...:(
[04:24] <l337ingDisorder> I'm hoping someone can help.. Just installed 9.10 and having trouble with the nvidia x server settings applet. I can set up my display configuration fine, but when I try to click 'Save to X Configuration File' it says "Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!" then when I reboot all my settings are lost. Can anyone help?
[04:25] <catamarquence> is it a big diference between 2.6.32 kernel and 2.6.31?
[04:25] <booksbuggy> slide: well that's all i know :CP
[04:25] <fooj> is there some benchmark tool to test the oncurrent performance of my app?
[04:25] <slide> bastidrazor, awesome, any way to turn it off permanently?
[04:25] <_BAZ_> hey i'm trying to setup my first nfs share, and it seems that to enable a share, I need to specify the ip address and perms of a client, in the file /etc/exports on the server - is this right?
[04:25] <scunizi> slide:  there is a bug report about that happening.. best to go to System>Admim>Assitive Devices and change the numeric keypad from mouse to keypad..
[04:25] <enav> what is the mening of  nvidia-xconfig"
[04:25] <booksbuggy> slide: my keypad is old style attached to the keyboard
[04:25] <enav> ???
[04:25] <slide> ok thanks guys! :D
[04:25] <josh_> hello, can anyone help me try to get my sound working?
[04:25] <ZykoticK9> l337ingDisorder, enav is having the same problem see http://paste.ubuntu.com/314805/
[04:25] <ctmjr> l337ingDisorder: your about 4 minutes late
[04:25] <Billiard> l337ingDisorder: a few people are having that error try what is being said "cd /etc/X11 && sudo mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup && sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[04:25] <greezmunkey> l337ingDisorder, maybe permissions?
[04:25] <bastidrazor> slide: that i don't know. i don't know why it happened in the first place. mine randomly changes.
[04:26] <Billiard> enav: pm me alright?
[04:26] <enav> im not the only 1 dude   this 9.10 vertion ahve this issue   for  all  nvidia drivers
[04:26] <wgrant> catamarquence: They're not put in updates of the main kernel just in case they break things.
[04:26] <catamarquence> wgrant: but how different are they? are there any big improovments?
[04:26] <MeVsTheVoices> fooj: If there were it'd have to be part of your app, repeatedly running a program to test performance is extremely unreliable
[04:26] <josh_> there is no sound output on this vanilla ubuntu system. It's running a 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02).  If anyone could help me, I would very much appreciate it.
[04:26] <ZykoticK9> enav, l337ingDisorder i had the SAME problem too - this was the fix -- 9.10 and nvidia - THIS will happen
[04:27] <suleman> fuck
[04:27] <enav> l337ingDisorder   are you ther bro???
[04:27] <russlar> !language | suleman
[04:27] <MrSchmo> anyone figure a fix to samba accessing windows 7 share?
[04:27] <TravisD_> Anyone here able to answer questions about the netbook remix?
[04:27] <Billiard> enav: do you know how to open a terminal
[04:27] <ZykoticK9> TravisD_, ask away!
[04:27] <suleman> ubottu, y dnt abd answers my questin then
[04:27] <l337ingDisorder> Billiard: just tried that, got this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/314812/
[04:27] <enav> yeah im a little skilled on linux
[04:28] <enav> im programmer
[04:28] <Silent_Echo> MrSchmo, what is samba
[04:28] <elky> suleman, because Ubottu is a bot, not a human.
[04:28] <l337ingDisorder> enav, yep
[04:28] <suleman> ya i knw
[04:28] <Billiard> l337ingDisorder: looks good, does it work now?
[04:28] <Billiard> enav: then open a terminal and type "cd /etc/X11 && sudo mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup && sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[04:28] <TravisD_> Okay, so I've been running emacs on the Netbook Remix and after the .emacs settings change my font size, the emacs frame fills the whole screen, but the actual emacs window only uses the top quarter or so
[04:28] <TravisD_> anyone know of problems similar to this?
[04:28] <ZykoticK9> l337ingDisorder, it worked!  only nvidia-xconfig ran twice (2nd one failed)
[04:28] <enav> l337ingDisorder   bro do you ahve the solution  to get worjing  nvidia setting  propertly??
[04:28] <elky> suleman, if you try typing your words out in full, more people will understand you and more people may have a chance to help.
[04:28] <MrSchmo> Silent_Echo is a client that links linux and windows together, access each shared folders and files
[04:28] <TravisD_> right now, a fix is to un-maximize the emacs window, and then maximize it again
[04:29] <Billiard> enav: can you try what i said?
[04:29] <enav> yes man
[04:29] <Silent_Echo> MrSchmo.... oooo nifty i'm gonna have to look into that..thx
[04:29] <enav> billiard     enav@enav-ubuntu:~$ cd /etc/X11 && sudo mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup && sudo nvidia-xconfig
[04:29] <enav> WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.
[04:29] <enav> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[04:29] <suleman> elky, "wats the syntax of smb "isnt this much sufficient dude
[04:29] <l337ingDisorder> Billiard: nice, that does seem to get it working (though I have to save it to my home dir where I have write perms and then sudo cp it to the /etx/X11 dir
[04:29] <Billiard> enav: dont paste it here
[04:29] <enav> sory
[04:29] <fooj> MeVsTheVoices:  but how to simulate so many connections
[04:29] <greezmunkey> Maybe suleman only has thumbs...
[04:29] <Billiard> enav: does it work now using nvidia settings?
[04:29] <enav> nope at all
[04:29] <MrSchmo> anyone figure a fix to samba accessing windows 7 share? no help on this =(
[04:29] <eshannon> Hello everyone. Is anyone having problems with Flash after upgrading to 910
[04:30] <_diablo> can anyone help me with getting sound working on this desktop?
[04:30] <_diablo> eshannon, not here
[04:30] <MeVsTheVoices> elky: man smb, ignore the moron
[04:30] <ZykoticK9> l337ingDisorder, just run "gksu nvidia-settings" then use the save X button :)
[04:30] <l337ingDisorder> enav: copy your xorg.conf into your home dir
[04:30] <enav> the video work like a charm in the previws vertion
[04:30] <scunizi> MrSchmo: that may also have to do with windows permissions..
[04:30] <russlar> eshannon: how's teh giand RAID disk?
[04:30] <CoolFox> does anybody know if koala can change login methods? I need to be able to type the username in by default, rather than have a list off all the users
[04:30] <l337ingDisorder> enav: nm, do what ZykoticK9 just said that's more efficient
[04:30] <enav> ok
[04:30] <CoolFox> its too big of a security risk.
[04:30] <MrSchmo> scunizi, know anything about it on windows 7 side
[04:30] <eshannon> russlar: Awesome transfer all my files back over to it. Thanks for the help
[04:30] <elky> suleman, not all people are going to understand "wat" to mean "what". especially not those for who english is a second or third language.
[04:31] <enav> gksu nvidia-settings   is not the same as   gksudo nvidia-settings?????
[04:31] <Silent_Echo> CoolFox...tell me if u get an answer/solution to that i agree and would like to know too
[04:31] <MrSchmo> i disabled 128 bit security on windows 7 and still not working
[04:31] <MeVsTheVoices> fooj: I don't understand what you are saying. You want to get statistics on net usage of your program up down loos etc?
[04:31] <suleman> elky, sury
[04:31] <suleman> elky, sorry
[04:31] <ZykoticK9> enav same thing gksu = gksudo
[04:31] <CoolFox> Silent_Echo, you too, eh? jeez, Fedora had the same issue with Sulfur.
[04:31] <eshannon> I get this error when I try to upgrade "E: The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."
[04:31] <iLoveWindows> If I wanted to create a bootable windows installation USB drive, I would use FAT32 right?
[04:31] <MeVsTheVoices> iLoveWindows: Yarp
[04:31] <scunizi> MrSchmo: when you share the folder on windows there are a couple of areas to set permissions.. ##windows for more
[04:32] <enav> WOW its worksssss
[04:32] <fooj> MeVsTheVoices: yes
[04:32] <CoolFox> and, yes, i've tired googling it.
[04:32] <Mike_lifeguard> How does uptime determine how many users are logged in?
[04:32] <ZykoticK9> iLoveWindows, ask in ##windows perhaps
[04:32] <enav> i will post the solution on ubuntu foums
[04:32] <iLoveWindows> Yes but I got no choice but to use gparted at the moment
[04:32] <greezmunkey> enav rocks
[04:32] <ZykoticK9> Mike-LaMar, it doesn't -- uptime and users logged in are completely separate
[04:32] <iLoveWindows> My CD drive is broken so I have to install Windows Vista through a USB drive
[04:33] <iLoveWindows> and gparted keeps erroring every time I try to format my USB disk with a fat32 file system
[04:33] <iLoveWindows> It's driving me crazy.
[04:33] <ZykoticK9> Mike_lifeguard, it doesn't -- uptime and users logged in are completely separate (sorry other guy)
[04:33] <Silent_Echo> question to the room, whats the most user friendly karaoke program for ubuntu?
[04:33] <wgrant> ZykoticK9: I presume that Mike_lifeguard means the command 'uptime'.
[04:33] <ctmjr> iLoveWindows: good luck with that
[04:33] <enav> aparentrly  gksudo  is different  of    gksu
[04:33] <Mike_lifeguard> wgrant: Yes, that's correct.
[04:33] <MeVsTheVoices> fooj: Alrighty, this is a little lazy but it is by far the easiest. Close all other programs that would even be connecting and watch over the network monitor
[04:33] <iLoveWindows> ctmjr: a little help would be nice...
[04:33] <iLoveWindows> Luck left my side as soon as I installed Linux
[04:34] <_diablo> is there a better way to get help than posting my problem every minute or so? my sound isn't working.
[04:34] <Mike_lifeguard> wgrant: To be more specific, does it count detached screen sessions as being that user logged in?
[04:34] <wgrant> Mike_lifeguard: It uses /var/log/utmp
[04:34] <MeVsTheVoices> fooj: Or, if you want to get better stats, use: netstat
[04:34] <Mike_lifeguard> wgrant: well, that doesn't exist on my system, so maybe not? :\
[04:34] <wgrant> Mike_lifeguard: Note that there is the rather more modern 'ck-list-sessions' command which might also be useful for your purposes.
[04:34] <MeVsTheVoices> iLoveWindows: Whats the error?
[04:34] <wgrant> Mike_lifeguard: /var/run/utmp, sorry.
[04:35] <greezmunkey> iLoveWindows, how do you intend to put Windows7 on the flash drive if your CD is broken?
[04:35] <Nautilus> OK I have 8.04 up and running as a dual boot (GRUB) on my XP drive, ubt XP is at the bottom of the list and I need it to be default. tips how to do that?
[04:35] <eshannon> anyone experts on Flash
[04:35] <Nautilus> s/ubt/but/
[04:35] <ZykoticK9> Mike_lifeguard, it's certainly grabbing the same info as the "who" command is
[04:35] <loong> hello everyone
[04:35] <MeVsTheVoices> fooj: http://www.computerhope.com/unix/unetstat.htm
[04:35] <Billiard> iLoveWindows: what does the error SAY?
[04:36] <Silent_Echo> _diablo....try the forums if a solution isnt already out there, then you can start a thread, but i think enough ppl have had that problem for it to b posted somewhere...
[04:36] <kostkon> Silent_Echo, check this http://ultrastardx.sourceforge.net/ if you want. it's a karaoke game, though, but it's really good
[04:36] <greezmunkey> Nautilus, Edit your boot.ini file from windows, make it read/write first.
[04:36] <_diablo> Silent_Echo, I've been hunting it for an hour already
[04:36] <fooj> MeVsTheVoices: is that like apache ab?
[04:36] <loong> why i use vi  but it show vim?
[04:36] <Silent_Echo> kostkon, much oblidged
[04:36] <Mike_lifeguard> ZykoticK9, wgrant: OK, because uptime says 2 users; ck-list-sessions says 1; who says 1. There is one (me, who is confuzzled) :)
[04:36] <iLoveWindows> I told you Billiard you never got back to me
[04:36] <_diablo> loong: vim is the upgraded version of vi. It is effectively the same thing
[04:36] <russlar> loong: vim is vi improved
[04:36] <iLoveWindows> let me retry geparted and get the error
[04:36] <Fraxtil> Is there any way for me to convert an encrypted LVM to a regular volume, so that I don't have to enter a password on each boot?
[04:36] <MeVsTheVoices> fooj: *Shrugs* Sorry, have never worked with that
[04:37] <kostkon> Silent_Echo, :)
[04:37] <Nautilus> greezmunkey: hm, whats boot.ini got to do with GRUB? It's the order in GRUB I want to change
[04:37] <Billiard> iLoveWindows: sorry i didnt see when you told me
[04:37] <iLoveWindows> Another PC - mylaptop is pretty much without a optical drive
[04:37] <Mike_lifeguard> ZykoticK9, wgrant: Not the end of the world, but it'd be nice to know what's going on.
[04:37] <zhai> yun
[04:37] <greezmunkey> Nautilus, got it...my bad.
[04:38] <Nautilus> greezmunkey: s'ok
[04:38] <enav> what is the meaning of this  code:    sudo nvidia-xconfig    ??
[04:38] <zhai> OK???
[04:38] <iLoveWindows> hmm
[04:38] <fooj> MeVsTheVoices: thank you very much, i will try
[04:38] <iLoveWindows> I think I figured the problem, it was my fault.
[04:38] <freaky[t]> hm, ive just removed all kde packages and stuff but the entries still appear in the gnome menus - is there a way to automatically clear non-existent applications out of the gnome menus?
[04:38] <cje> I am trying to test watching this movie on Ubuntu.  We are going to be using it in a school tomorrow.  It doesn't seem to play.  Can anyone help?
[04:38] <puff> Every now and then, as right now, I get this weird situation where I can't alt-tab from my terminal window to another window.
[04:38] <cje> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/beta/evolution/becoming-human-part-1.html
[04:38] <iLoveWindows> Didn't give a label to the drive
[04:39] <greezmunkey> Nautilus, Mine starts with boot.ini, cuz I did the Windows Ubuntu install...
[04:39] <freaky[t]> and how do I remove something i've added a bookmark for (in Places)
[04:39] <ctmjr> iLoveWindows: you need to take your windows problem to another channel
[04:39] <enav> billiard what is the meaning of this  code:    sudo nvidia-xconfig    ??
[04:39] <MeVsTheVoices> fooj: No problem, good luck
[04:39] <puff> I can minimize my terminal window, or I can use the gnome window menu applet, but not alt-tab.
[04:39] <russlar> cje: it's workign fine for me
[04:39] <puff> Any idea what causes this?  It's definitely not the "Always on top" checkbox.
[04:39] <Billiard> enav: it should recreate your xorg.conf after you back it up somewhere
[04:39]  * Nautilus is looking at possible options in grub, root, savedefault, makeactive, chainloader +1
[04:39] <kostkon> Silent_Echo, the package for 8.10 should work fine on 9.10, so you don't have to compile it: http://old.getdeb.net/app/UltraStar+Deluxe
[04:39] <KyEfraG> anyone else here use OpenBox?
[04:40] <zhai> no
[04:40] <KyEfraG> lol
[04:40] <KyEfraG> k
[04:40] <MeVsTheVoices> ctmjr: Its not a windows question, he asking how to partition a drive
[04:40] <loong> yes i know vim is the upgraded version of vi. but i write the vi  show vim,write the vim show nothing install
[04:40] <cje> russlar, Thx, are you watching the whole movie or just a preview?
[04:40] <zhai> but i don't
[04:40] <loong> yes i know vim is the upgraded version of vi. but i write the vi  show vim,write the vim show nothing install
[04:40] <Silent_Echo> kostkon, ....idk what to say.....thank you soooooo much
[04:40] <kostkon> Silent_Echo, :)
[04:41] <cje> russlar, I can only seem to get a preview, and then only once per IP address, or so it seems.
[04:41] <russlar> wha?
[04:41] <Nautilus> how to re-arrange the items in GRUB? /me wants XP to be the default
[04:41] <ctmjr> MeVsTheVoices: this is what he wants iLoveWindows> If I wanted to create a bootable windows installation USB drive, I would use FAT32 right?
[04:41] <enav> billaird  thaks mate
[04:41] <greezmunkey> Hey! A friend is going to give me a watchguard firewall, It runs some version of Linux. How much luck do you think I'll have running Ubuntu on it?
[04:41] <cje> russlar, I don't seem to get the full movie, just a preview.
[04:41] <enav> billiard  thaks mate
[04:42] <cyrus_mc> so I setup Encryption using cryptsetup. Everything goes ok but there is one problem. On reboot it asks for the passphrase for the encrypted partition
[04:42] <russlar> cje: I'm getting the whole thing
[04:42] <Billiard> enav: np so everything works now?
[04:42] <cyrus_mc> if I dont' enter it within a certain amoutn of time it just boots into the desktop
[04:42] <MeVsTheVoices> ctmjr: Yup, I can read too: and gparted keeps erroring every time I try to format my USB disk with a fat32 file system. Stop being hostile
[04:42] <cyrus_mc> however, if I do a ps -ef | grep crypt it shows a process still wiating for me to enter the passphrase
[04:42] <_BAZ_> NFS - is it true that with NFS file sharing you have to specify the IP of th client in the server *exports* config? If so, how do people handle clients on dhcp networks, like laptops coming in and out?
[04:42] <blackvd> unable to upgrade due to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/461744
[04:42] <cyrus_mc> any idea how I change this behaviour
[04:42] <blackvd> any fix?
[04:43] <DanaG> yargh, it took me a minute and a half to boot Karmic: http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/bootcharts/EliteBook-karmic-20091109-5.png
[04:43] <enav> billiar    like a charm
[04:43] <l337ingDisorder> Having some grub trouble.. In 8.04 I could change the grub list by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst but that file doesn't seem to exist in 9.10 - can anyone tell me how to edit the grub list in 9.10?
[04:43] <Billiard> enav: good, we told you to run this command from the begining, lol
[04:43] <cje> russlar, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[04:43] <Newbuntu2> I'm having a problem with my partitions - I screwed up the MBR with GParted, it seems. Which is the right channel for booting problems? I posted the issue [http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=13765 ] and it seems it's just resetting a couple of bits, but don't know how to....
[04:43] <russlar> jaunty
[04:44] <DanaG> argh, slow Karmic boot.
[04:44] <enav> billaird  the server post to many  bot messaget and i get confuced
[04:44] <Silent_Echo> _diablo you still in here i might have found you something or it might b nothing
[04:44] <Trizicus> My built in mic records but it's not faint. I have volume in System > Pref to max but it's not loud at all. How can I fix this?
[04:44] <Trizicus> it's faint*
[04:45] <Sakara> can't connect to a ubuntu machine via ssh from my partners house. but can if i ssh via university.
[04:45] <Sakara> any ideas
[04:45] <l337ingDisorder> Sakara: almost certainly firewall issues
[04:45] <Sakara> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host     error when connecting straight
[04:45] <cje> russlar, I saw the preview, but thereafter, when I clicked on the link, I just got a black transparent layer over the page, but it didn't play.  I also received the black transparent layer during the first playback, but then I could not play it again.
[04:46] <Mike_lifeguard> Newbuntu2: It looks like you shrunk the partition without shrinking the filesystem inside it!
[04:46] <Sakara> 1337ingDisorder: its not a firewall issue
[04:46] <russlar> cje: which browser are you using>
[04:46] <Mike_lifeguard> Newbuntu2: (that's bad)
[04:46] <l337ingDisorder> Sakara: use nmap to see if the port is even open from the remote system
[04:46] <Sakara> they are
[04:46] <hey_boy> Hello all
[04:46] <suleman> i do i get help for windows vista
[04:46] <Sakara> using -vv flag on ssh I see the connection is established
[04:46] <hey_boy> I seem to have problems with my Update Manager.
[04:46] <zhai> very good
[04:46] <Fraxtil> Okay, I definitely need some help here, I thought I could just backup my encrypted LVM, replace the partitions with ext3 and swap, and put the backup onto the new ext3 partition, but GRUB won't cooperate now. What can I do?
[04:46] <cje> Firefox 3.0
[04:46] <Sakara> in the auth.logs on the machine i see
[04:47] <Mike_lifeguard> Newbuntu2: I once had to fix that when I made a similar error with fdisk, but I don't remember how to do it. You should wait for someone who *really* knows what they're doing, or find a tutorial.
[04:47] <cje> russlar, Firefox 3.0
[04:47] <l337ingDisorder> Sakara: hmm could also be an RSA issue..
[04:47] <Mike_lifeguard> Newbuntu2: Have you done anything to your HD since that error?
[04:47] <russlar> cje: sounds like a flach issue
[04:47] <Sakara> Nov 10 13:41:23 hellscream sshd[28394]: refused connect from <IP address of partners house>
[04:47] <James_> hey guys, I have this error coming up when trying to boot up ubuntu
[04:47] <James_> $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 0).
[04:47] <James_> Failed to mount '/dev/sda1': Input/output error
[04:47] <James_> NTFS is either inconsistent, or you have hardware faults, or you have a
[04:47] <James_> SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows
[04:47] <James_> then reboot into Windows TWICE. The usage of the /f parameter is very
[04:47] <cje> russlar, I think I have the most recent flash
[04:47] <FloodBot1> James_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:47] <Sakara> l337ingDisorder: Any idea how to resolve this
[04:48] <russlar> cje: from the repos, or from adobe?
[04:48] <l337ingDisorder> Sakara: have you tried ssh-copy-id ?
[04:48] <Fraxtil> Can anyone help? :<
[04:48] <ctmjr> l337ingDisorder: did you get your answer on grub2?
[04:48] <sumeetbali> does anyone now of any software for ubuntu like to make it more mac like?
[04:48] <James_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/314820/ this is an error i keep getting when trying to boot into ubuntu
[04:48] <l337ingDisorder> ctmjr: not yet, any help would be appreciated :)
[04:49] <MeVsTheVoices> Newbuntu2: What filesystem was the partition you shrunk?
[04:49] <James_> can anyone help?
[04:49] <feyner> sumeetbali, store.apple.com buy one
[04:49] <Sakara> l337ingDisorder: Have not tried anything like that before will have a read through the wiki and find the bit about passwordless ssh
[04:49] <hey_boy> My update manager is showing wrong file size and downloading files twice
[04:49] <greezmunkey> l337ingDisorder, check this out...http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/ubuntu-910-grub-bootloader-changes-coming.html
 to expesive
[04:49] <ctmjr> !grub2 > l337ingDisorder i used this to fix mine
[04:49] <cje> russlar, from the repos
[04:49] <l337ingDisorder> Sakara: yea you should use RSA keys regardless of this issue, any ol' brute force attack can eventually crack a password
[04:49] <turkeyshoot> anyone know what voltage ipod chargers are?
[04:49] <russlar> cje: uninstall it, and reinstall
[04:50] <blackvd> this is annoying I ran sudo mount -o remount,noexec /tmp then sudo do-release-upgrade and i still get /tmp is mounted noexec. Please remount without noexec and run the upgrade again
[04:50] <russlar> cje: flash
[04:50] <feyner> sumeetbali, theres a mac theme out you can install, looks identical to osx
[04:50] <l337ingDisorder> ctmjr: thanks :)
[04:50] <blackvd> oops
[04:50] <James_> why would anyone want to voluntarily run osx
[04:50] <blackvd> typo
[04:50] <greezmunkey> turkeyshoot, the USB type?
 yea i am using that
[04:50] <feyner> James_, probably because its a superior os?
 but is there any way that i can change the boot screen
[04:50] <James_> feyner, compared to what?
[04:51] <turkeyshoot> greezmunkey, well they should all be the same voltage but yeah, im trying to think of how i can charge this 9.6 Ni-Cd
[04:51] <feyner> feyner, any other you can name
 and change the name ubuntu to mac on the bootloader screen?
[04:51] <James_> you think mac osx is better than ubuntu, feyner?
[04:51] <feyner> James_, .. trolling much?
[04:51] <turkeyshoot> greezmunkey, i dont have a ipod, so i dont need the charger, but i also cant check the bat lol, maybe online, thought someone here might know
[04:51] <James_> trolling osx, i guess
[04:51] <MeVsTheVoices> Hehe, dem's fightin words
[04:52] <Fraxtil> !help
[04:52] <James_> anyway, i just came in here to get some help on booting ubuntu, i keep getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/314820/
[04:52] <feyner> James_, osx boots fne ;p
[04:52] <greezmunkey> off topic, but: http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Make-Your-Own-USB-Car-Charger-For-Any-iPod-/
[04:52] <James_> feyner, unlikely on this tiny little netbook
[04:52] <feyner> James_, are you duel booting
[04:53] <James_> yes, through wubi
[04:53] <Mike_lifeguard> Is it possible to change the comment for a ssh key?
[04:53] <cje> russlar, thx I will try that.
[04:53] <l337ingDisorder> ctmjr: can I pm you to avoid channel clutter?
[04:53] <feyner> James_, did you run chkdisk like it said?
 you got mac off of wubi?
[04:53] <mxe> Here I go again, hoping someone here can help me. Ahem...
[04:53] <zhai> ay
[04:53] <chase__> Uh hello.
[04:53] <zhai> say
[04:53] <James_> feyner, yes, both /f and /r and still unresolved respectively
[04:54] <MenZa> !pm |  l337ingDisorder
[04:54] <MenZa> l337ingDisorder: Mostly the first bit :)
[04:54] <migg137> whats good for recording my desktop?
[04:54] <cje> russlar, I found a bittorrent for it, and I am downloading the bittorrent now.  It appears to be legal to download http://www.mininova.org/tor/3124617
[04:54] <MenZa> !screencast | migg137
[04:54] <Silent_Echo> kostkon... for ultrastardx the dependencies are not sastified, but via synaptic theres ultrastar ng....what are your thoughts?
[04:55] <russlar> cje: that works too
[04:55] <kostkon> Silent_Echo, oh, let me check
[04:55] <zhai> yes
 can pm you?
[04:55] <migg137> MenZa, which is the best
[04:55] <mxe> Recently, my laptop crashed due to overheating while I was running my ubuntu install (jaunty), and now, every time that I boot back up, forcedeth detects an invalid mac address on my network card. Now, this wouldn't really be a problem, except itp revents me from getting on the internet, as all of my DHCPDISCOVERS fail. Consistently. I did soe research and noticed that some people had this problem after they suspended and came back, so I tr
[04:55] <mxe> ied suspending it and coming back to see if it would reverse it (the MAC is often reversed, actually, always), and nothing happened. So perhaps someone here can help me, what the hell can I do to get it to properly detect my MAC again?
[04:55] <James_> sumeetbali, sure? no idea why you want to though lol
[04:55] <cje> hopefully it will play okay
 just curious you got mac off wubi
[04:55] <James_> sumeetbali, no i did not, i got ubuntu off wubi lol
[04:55] <DanaG> heh, funny name: FORCEDETH
[04:55] <DanaG> I cast ForceDeth upon ye all!
[04:55] <James_> or at least i'm trying to
 oh okay
[04:55] <DanaG> =þ
[04:56] <mxe> DanaG:I thought so too. It started to really get to me, seeing FORCEDETH over and over, like the computer was wishing me to die. Heh.
[04:56] <kane77> I need a little scripting help, I have lots of files that are name.ext;1 and I need to remove the ;1 from them, how would I do it?
 i have used wubi many times
[04:56] <l337ingDisorder> ctmjr: I had already figured out that the new grub system uses /etc/grub.d/* to put together grub.cfg, but looking at the scripts in /etc/grub.d/ it's clear that the scripting is beyond me. I just want to change the default boot option from the partition with 9.10 to the partition with 8.04 (the 8.04 option is already in the boot menu, I just want to make it the default). Can you help with this?
[04:56] <James_> feyner, any ideas what's wrong with my bootup?
[04:56] <Billiard> kane77: i can help you in pm if you want
[04:56] <feyner> James_, have you checked to see if your ntfs sriver is outdated
[04:56] <feyner> driver*
[04:56] <kane77> Billiard, sure
[04:56] <James_> feyner, no i haven't, not sure how to do that
[04:57] <mxe> Also, just another note as to something else interesting about it, whenever it boots up, it no longer displays the graphical loading screen and instead runs through all the startup processes as though in a terminal.
[04:57] <migg137> mxe, i might have an idea that might work
[04:57] <kostkon> Silent_Echo, yes, it seems it's a different app but equally good. yeah, i would recommend you to give it a try
[04:57] <mxe> migg137: What's that?
[04:57] <migg137> mxe, its youtube can i post it here
[04:57]  * DanaG wonders why Ubuntu is being so durn slow at booting.
[04:57] <DanaG> http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/bootcharts/EliteBook-karmic-20091108-2.png
[04:57] <Silent_Echo> kostkon...awesome thx
[04:57] <mxe> migg137: I suppose so.
[04:58] <greezmunkey> migg137, yes, sounds interesting...
[04:58] <migg137> mxe, this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RIUOoMdkv8
[04:58] <sumeetbali> how can i use mac boot on ubuntu? like bootloader?
[04:58] <jose> how can I change my nickname???
[04:58] <migg137> mxe, i dunno if you can use the macchanger after installing it and put in the mac oyu want to get hope you remeber your mac
[04:58] <buly> hi everybody
[04:58] <hey_boy> jose: /nick <newnick>
[04:59] <mxe> eh I can get the MAC right now, I'm on a live distro.
[04:59] <gesp> kj
[04:59] <MeVsTheVoices> DanaG: This always thought it out for me. Because ubuntu focuses on ease of use and portability, it loads many many modules that are unecessary for some machines, but needed for others, plus... it is clunky being fair
[04:59] <Sakara> l337ingDisorder: found the problem but not sure what causes it. the box has denyhosts running on it. i removed my partners houses ip from the deny.hosts list restarted the denyhosts daemon and it is instantly readded
[05:00] <Sakara> anyidea what is causing this
[05:00] <bastidrazor> mxe:  in a terminal type lspci | grep Ethernet ..regardless of LiveCD or not you can see the hardware attached.
[05:00] <Sakara> hosts.deny*
[05:00] <darshil> Hi there everyone, I just installed ubuntu! I am so happy
[05:00] <greezmunkey> migg137, aircrack...
[05:00] <migg137> mxe, nice go try
[05:00] <mxe> bastidrazor: thanks
[05:00] <darshil> but I think i may have had a problem
[05:00] <Fraxtil> Can anyone help? #grub isn't answering
[05:00] <migg137> greezmunkey, well just the macchanger to change the mack to whatever you want it to
[05:00] <AntiStrange> darshil: welcome to the other side :)
[05:00] <DanaG> sumeetbali: what do you mean, use the mac boot?
[05:01] <darshil> Thanks :) after installation the wallpaper is black and firefox does not maximise
[05:01] <DanaG> yeah, it sucks that it boots so slowly.
[05:01] <blueglasses> Hi My sound is not working... it just stoped when I started armagetron
 like a mac look a like boot?
[05:01] <hey_boy> Guys, I have a problem with Update Manager
[05:01] <AntiStrange> darshil: have you installed your video driver? what gpu do you have?
[05:01] <DanaG> oh, a mac-like bootsplash.
[05:01] <mxe> wooo backtrack
[05:02] <darshil> ATI radeon 9200se
[05:02] <MeVsTheVoices> DanaG: :-), but it's nice it works so easily
[05:02] <blueglasses> I killed pulseaudio, but no sound
[05:02] <kostkon> blueglasses, did you check your volume levels?
[05:02] <Rondo> !love
[05:02] <Rondo> !jack
[05:02] <mxe> !racism
[05:02] <russlar> !onelove
[05:02] <mxe> SHAME.
[05:02] <Rondo> !pulse
[05:03] <Rondo> !irony
[05:03] <blueglasses> koston yes
[05:03] <mxe> !nothing
[05:03] <mxe> fff
[05:03] <DanaG> You can edit /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf to set USPLASH=Y to get splash instead of black.
[05:03] <blueglasses> kostkon, yes i did, they are fine
[05:03] <kostkon> blueglasses, hmm
[05:03] <buly> hi everybody, today i instaled xubuntu in an od machine, everything has been running smooth, until i tried to use my prnter, a dell a940. i googled how to make it work, an i found this link.
[05:03] <hey_boy> it seems my Update Manager is displaying the wrong file sizes when updating
[05:03] <buly> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714
[05:03] <mxe> well time to reboot and see what i can do
[05:04] <MeVsTheVoices> sumeetbali: Grep also supports loading an image for the background of the boot loader, but changing the splash is damn right unholy
[05:04] <buly> but whe i try to extract the fies it gives me an error
[05:04] <cje> russlar, thanks for the help
[05:04] <cje> russlar, I am going to be leaving now
[05:04] <kostkon> blueglasses, is the game still running?
[05:04] <blueglasses> usually, I dont have sound when playing armagetron, wich is strange, but now, Its worse, I was seeing a movie on youtube with sound, then armagetron (I paused the movie) then back to the movie, no sound at all
[05:04] <_generic> so can anyone convert vids to mps with mencoder
[05:05] <_generic> its been broke for a while now
[05:05] <blueglasses> kostkon, nope, I killed the process
[05:05] <blueglasses> but it was kinda hanging on exit
[05:05] <kostkon> blueglasses, did you reboot? you never know
[05:05] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  Does anyone know whether or not installing the ubuntu repos version of Eclipse will update itself to the most current version of its modules if they're available via updates?
[05:05] <migg137> mxe, since the live cd seem to fix thing why dont you just install 9.10 then its pretty good
[05:06] <blueglasses> nope, I didnt want to lose the movie bookmark
[05:06] <darshil> Hi everyone, none of my windows are maximising and the wallpaper is black (I have just clean installed with a CD)
[05:06] <kostkon> blueglasses, you should reboot then :P
[05:06] <sumeetbali> does anyone know of a good mac like splash and usplash and can show me how to configure it?
[05:06] <darshil> I have rebooted and I think it is an installting problem
[05:06] <blueglasses> I dont want to, thats why I'm here
[05:06] <blueglasses> and I dont need to reboot, just logout
[05:06] <kostkon> blueglasses, no. because
[05:07] <enav> billiard are you there???
[05:07] <blueglasses> kostkon, because if i logout, I will have to see the movie again from begining, its youtube
[05:07] <Billiard> enav: yes sir
[05:07] <kostkon> blueglasses, there is the possibility that armagetron just blocked your sound card and you need to reboot in order to get your sound back
[05:07] <enav> billair  chek this out    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8283752#post8283752
[05:07] <kostkon> blueglasses, logging out is not enough
[05:07] <Newbuntu2> MeVsTheVoices: the shrunk partition is NTFS (id 7)
[05:08] <blueglasses> koston, cant I kill the process? pulseaudio should restart
[05:08] <kostkon> blueglasses, no big deal, it's just a movie, a movie on youtube :P
[05:08] <freaky[t]> hi all i have a question about the compiz configuration manager. when i select display cube and rotate cube, and i only have 2 desktops, it just flips arround from one side to the opositing site ... is there a possibility to let it look like the two desktops are still on a cube and not just like on a paper?
[05:08] <enav> billiard  chek this out    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8283752#post8283752
[05:08] <blueglasses> yes, but a big movie
[05:08] <Billiard> enav: it wasnt really just me, i mainly repeated them
[05:08] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  Does anyone know whether or not installing the ubuntu repos version of Eclipse will update itself to the most current version of its modules if they're available via updates?
[05:08] <kostkon> blueglasses, the problem is with alsa not pulseaudio
[05:08] <blueglasses> kostkon, its a real movie, not a video
[05:09] <enav> billiard   bah  dont worrii  we are a comunity
[05:09] <blueglasses> kostkon, cant i kill alsa?
[05:09] <kindofabuzz> are the three commands python, python2, and python 2.6 all do the same? what are the differences?
[05:09] <Silent_Echo> enav, like ur post i'm on pidgin not xchat lol
[05:09] <kostkon> blueglasses, kill alsa, no. it's not a process
[05:09] <enav> ho
[05:09] <enav> ops
[05:09] <MeVsTheVoices> Newbuntu2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=932192
[05:09] <enav> bay bay bro
[05:09] <blueglasses> pulseaudio is quite strange...
[05:09] <kostkon> blueglasses, maybe if you reload your sound card driver's module, but again
[05:10] <MeVsTheVoices> Newbuntu2: Sorry if you already tried that, SGD also has a very great tool for automatically resizing or *fixing* xp partitions
[05:10] <blueglasses> kostkon, alsa is a kernel module?
[05:11] <MeVsTheVoices> Yarp
[05:11] <kostkon> blueglasses, er, your alsa driver is.
[05:12] <Newbuntu2> MeVsTheVoices: do you know how to fix the MBR directly, like in the gparted forum link ? what's SGD?
[05:12] <kostkon> blueglasses, but, anyway, you don't need to worry about it because your sound will come back when you reboot
[05:12] <blueglasses> I know
[05:12] <sensucht_> hi, could someone please tell me what module replaces ehci_hcd for usb2.0  speeds in Jaunty/Karmic?
[05:12] <blueglasses> but linux is suposed to be a system where I dont have to reboot
[05:13] <blueglasses> how do I reload alsa driver?
[05:13] <workstation> well I was wondering If anyone could help me with this error I am getting. I get it while trying to extract a wordpress theme onto my deskop.   "checkdir error:  bluevibes exists but is not directory                 unable to process bluevibes/page.php."    any suggestions for a fix?
[05:13] <Trizicus> my nvidia server settings wont save. I've ran as sudo, gksudo and saved to configuration file and still my setting is no applying.
[05:13] <Newbuntu2> MeVsTheVoices: in particular, post #8 does exactly what I need, I just have no clue how to do it: http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=13757
[05:13] <Silent_Echo> kostkon, thx bro, ultra star is pretty awesome, but im gonna have to play around with it...i can get the free songs to load, so now i just need to figure out how to add my own choice in music
[05:14] <kostkon> Silent_Echo, nice :)
[05:14] <blueglasses> workstation, you should find the appropriate channel to ask it, probably #php or #wordpress
[05:14] <Rondo> doe sanybody know how to get the public key for a repository when all you have to go on is the deb line?
[05:15] <SeanInSeattle> Anyone have experience with installing eclipse?
[05:15] <workstation> blueglasses, I would assume it would have to do with Ubuntu
[05:15] <blueglasses> SeanInSeattle, I do
[05:15] <workstation> blueglasses, I am trying to extract the folder inside the .zip archive
[05:16] <SeanInSeattle> blueglasses:  Good to hear.  Any thoughts on how best to install it?  It seems that it simply decompresses into its own directory, and that's that.  Is that right?
[05:16] <blueglasses> workstation, you probably have a file called bluevibes wich was extracted before the directory
[05:17] <blueglasses> SeanInSeattle, you can install it with apt-get
[05:17] <B4R74zy> every on go to http://sites.google.com/site/jonasbrothersphotositeclub/    and ckick on the ads
[05:17] <workstation> blueglasses, nope, it just does not want to extract any of my .zips i have
[05:17] <Trizicus> My nvidia server settings wont save. I've ran as sudo, gksudo and saved to configuration file and still my setting is no applying.
[05:17] <blueglasses> SeanInSeattle, or you can install it using ubuntu-shop or add or remove
[05:17] <SeanInSeattle> blueglasses:  what is ubuntu-shop?
[05:18] <blueglasses> SeanInSeattle, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:18] <SeanInSeattle> blueglasses:  9.1
[05:18] <PhantomLink> my bluetooth is not picking up a bluetooth device
[05:18] <woodyjlw> need help with 8.10 on HP laptop with ati 200m chip......it goes into suspend ok but some times when it comes out of suspend mode non of the keys or buttons will respond including the mouse pad and only thing I can do is hold down power till reset....is there any fix?
[05:19] <PhantomLink> it's a samsung SGH-T469 phone
[05:19] <Trizicus> My nvidia server settings wont save. I've ran as sudo, gksudo and saved to configuration file and still my setting is not applying. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[05:19] <ScottG> When I do lspci -k and get some output, what is the difference between "Kernel driver in use" and "Kernel modules" ?
[05:19] <Sakara> ssh problem was resovled by greping over all denyhost data files for my current ip and removing them all while daemon was not running
[05:19] <sargento> Hi, I'm having problem installing tovid, I got this message "todiscgui:   Depende: tovid (=0.31-0ubuntu2) pero se va a instalar 0.31-2" , any clue?
[05:19] <PhantomLink> oh nvm it showed up :D
[05:19] <blueglasses> workstation, probably you are trying to extract to a protected destination check your permitions on the directory
[05:19] <mxe> Well, I have returned, on my other laptop, and this is just being tons of fun. I can change the mac address back to the actual mac, and have dhclient actually work and get a new lease, do theh whole DHCP thing, but yet I still can get no network traffic.
[05:19] <workstation> blueglasses, k
[05:20] <MrKline> ubuntu 9.04 is such trash
[05:20] <blueglasses> workstation, or check the permitions on the files you are extracting
[05:20] <MrKline> asked me over 40 questions now
[05:20] <MrKline> fuck this shit
[05:20] <SeanInSeattle> mrcline:  watch that language, if you please.
[05:20] <SeanInSeattle> rather, MrKline.
[05:20] <Trizicus> My nvidia server settings wont save. I've ran as sudo, gksudo and saved to configuration file and still my setting is not applying. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[05:20] <woodyjlw> so is 9.10.  it is even worse...... it is very broken
[05:20] <MrKline> I please to not be asked 40+ questions
[05:20] <blueglasses> SeanInSeattle, goto applications, last option
[05:20] <MenZa> Can anyone point me to more information about the flash bug (on 64-bit) which disallows you from clicking any items? Google is proving useless.
[05:20] <MrKline> how hard is it to just install
[05:21] <MenZa> MrKline: Noone's forcing you to use it. The people in here are volunteers, and with an attitude like yours, I'm not surprised you haven't received any answers.
[05:21] <workstation> blueglasses, within the archive?
[05:21] <Trizicus> MenZa: Just install 32 bit ff, flash, java
[05:21] <MrKline> menza: with trash like ubuntu i'm not suprised it + all other distros only has 3% of the market
[05:21] <blueglasses> Menza are you talking about a processor? go to #hardware
[05:21] <hey_boy> Guys, my update manager is displaying wrong file sizes. Is it a bug
[05:21] <feyner> MrKline, trollin trollin
[05:21] <MenZa> blueglasses: Erm, no. I'm talking about the problem with Adobe Flash on 64-bit.
[05:21] <lstarnes> MrKline: those kinds of statements aren't going to fix anything
[05:22] <mxe> patricicus
[05:22] <sargento> MrKline: 3% of the market and you!!!
[05:22] <PhantomLink> I must say
[05:22] <Trizicus> MenZa: Yes just install 32 bit equivs
[05:22] <woodyjlw> need help with 8.10 on HP laptop with ati 200m chip......it goes into suspend ok but some times when it comes out of suspend mode non of the keys or buttons will respond including the mouse pad and only thing I can do is hold down power till reset....is there any fix?
[05:22] <MrKline> lstarnes: yeah you know what would fix things? make a installer that installs without a million questions
[05:22] <MenZa> Trizicus: I originally installed it manually with libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. I've since removed that, and I'm on nspluginwrapper and flashplugin-nonfree currently.
[05:22] <PhantomLink> I am rather impressed with how well ubuntu interacts with windows devices through our router.
[05:22] <blueglasses> workstation, try to extract to a different location
[05:22] <lstarnes> MrKline: then tell that to the developers
[05:22] <blueglasses> for instance, not the desktop
[05:22] <lstarnes> MrKline: file a feature request of some sort
[05:22] <MenZa> MrKline: Please. This is not the place to argue about this.
[05:22] <PhantomLink> It was so much easier than getting windows devices to interact with *each other* if that says anything
[05:22] <PhantomLink> windows=trash and hard to use
[05:23] <PhantomLink> ubuntu=very user friendly
[05:23] <Trizicus> MenZa: I've installed ff into opt ia32 java via synaptic and flash plugin from Adobe.
[05:23] <MenZa> Now, if we can kindly return to our scheduled programming, that'd be lovely.
[05:23] <mxe> freebsd= at
[05:23] <MrKline> phantom you just made the most idiotic statement of the century
[05:23] <MrKline> congrats
[05:23] <Trizicus> My nvidia server settings wont save. I've ran as sudo, gksudo and saved to configuration file and still my setting is not applying. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[05:23] <lstarnes> MrKline: however, for the meantime, you'll have to live with answering those questions.  Once it gets installed, you won't have to go through them again
[05:23] <MenZa> !coc > MrKline
[05:23] <PhantomLink> i can easily copy all of my moms pictures from her phone to her computer for her.
[05:23] <MenZa> !guidelines > MrKline
[05:23] <isolat3dsh33p> anyone here plays alienarena?
[05:23] <MenZa> MrKline: How about you read those two links before proceeding.
[05:23] <PhantomLink> Thank you guys for all your support over the last year.
[05:23] <MrKline> stop botting me
[05:23] <IdleOne> !ot | MrKennie
[05:23] <workstation> blueglasses, have done that already .... :/
[05:23] <lstarnes> MrKline: then please follow the rules
[05:24] <MrKline> now I have to choose a kernel to install
[05:24] <BeBenCA> I have a question. i installed 9.01 xubuntu and want to setup a dailup connection. i put on ppp-gnome and network-admin package. it doesnt complete the dial when it gets to authenication it craps out
[05:24] <PhantomLink> I made the full switch from windows to ubuntu last october, and it has been the best decision I ever made.
[05:24] <MrKline> over 12 choices
[05:24] <mxe> okay, this is a mahjor pain, I can't even manage to connect to 192.168.1.1 to do some basic router administration. I am starting to get quite annoyed ;_;
[05:24] <MrKline> this is ridiculous
[05:24] <IdleOne> MrKline: I don't think you are installing ubuntu.
[05:24] <kostkon> i think MrKline is just trolling
[05:24] <jahisthebalance> mxe you have ufw enabled?
[05:24] <Lint> MrKline, whi did you enabled Expert mode?
[05:24] <MrKline> idlone I am
[05:24] <mxe> jahisthebalance: pardon me?
[05:24] <sargento> MrKline: nobody forces you to use Ubuntu, If you can't read I think you deserve what you got
[05:24] <MrKline> its 9.04 on a dvd
[05:25] <Qballjos> Hi there
[05:25] <Qballjos> can anyone help me i cant get sound out of my laptop this is my first time using ubuntu
[05:25] <BeBenCA> im using 9.04 xbuntu
[05:25] <jahisthebalance> could be a firewall situation
[05:25] <nalioth> MrKline: may i suggest you take a few minutes and read our channel policies?
[05:25] <blueglasses> workstation, and you get the same error?
[05:25] <workstation> blueglasses, I was able to unzip another archive right now though?
[05:25] <Qballjos> i have ubuntu 9.10
[05:25] <mxe> jahisthebalance: I never actually had ti running before, but I tried stopping it just in case.
[05:25] <mxe> To no avail.
[05:25] <MrKline> nalioth i've already had 5 people have the bot, which is now ignored spam me with it
[05:25] <MrKline> thanks for your interest though
[05:25] <DanaG> grr, stupid slow boot.
[05:25] <kostkon> Qballjos, ubuntu ver?
[05:25] <sargento> Qballjos: Have you ever tried another Ubuntu distro?
[05:25] <feyner> mxe, you using network manager?
[05:25] <DanaG> Whole lotta' hard drive thrashin' going on.
[05:25] <lstarnes> MrKline: ignoring the bot probably isn't a good idea
[05:25] <Qballjos> no never
[05:26] <kostkon> Qballjos, ah. could you open a terminal and give: uname -a
[05:26] <MrKline> lstarnes: spamming me with the bot in the first place, wasn't a good idea
[05:26] <BeBenCA> could someone message me and help me step by step. i do have a broadband connection, but setting up this for a friend, he has dailup.. i already installed the intel536ep deb file and everything is fine. just dailing is a problem
[05:26] <mxe> feyner: no actually i am orking with ifconfig currently to modify my MAC address back to what it should be ;-; i really only utiize network manager to do my wireless connexions
[05:26] <kostkon> Qballjos, post the one line output here
[05:26] <blueglasses> workstation, maybe your zip file has errors
[05:26] <nalioth> MrKline: i'd suggest you click on one of the URLs and read the policies
[05:26] <DanaG> http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/bootcharts/EliteBook-karmic-20091108-2.png
[05:26] <MrKline> suggestion noted
[05:26] <feyner> mxe, does route -n show 192.168.1.1
[05:26] <B4R74zy> every one go to   http://sites.google.com/site/jonasbrothersphotositeclub/    and ckick on ads
[05:26] <B4R74zy> every one go to   http://sites.google.com/site/jonasbrothersphotositeclub/    and ckick on ads
[05:26] <B4R74zy> every one go to   http://sites.google.com/site/jonasbrothersphotositeclub/    and ckick on ads
[05:26] <workstation> blueglasses, I doubt it. I have 3 others I have downloaded from the same site that gives the same errors
[05:26] <FloodBot1> B4R74zy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:26] <DanaG> It's like they sacrificed HDD performance for the sake of SSDs.
[05:26] <blueglasses> workstation, wich is strange, but I still think is a permitions problem
[05:26] <sargento> Ok, have you tried your sound in Windows or any other operating system?
[05:27] <mxe> feyner: no it does not,
[05:27] <Qballjos> Linux ubuntu 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:27] <jahisthebalance> GNU MAC Changer might be easier
[05:27] <feyner> mxe, route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[05:27] <kostkon> Qballjos, ok, can you now give: aplay -l.
[05:27] <mxe> okay
[05:27] <MeVsTheVoices> DanaG: Yea, but in 3 years will you be buying a Disk?
[05:27] <workstation> blueglasses, what is the command to check the permission on folders and archives again.? Its been a while since I have been on Linux :)
[05:27] <yclian> Hi, i have a motorola phone that when i plugged into my machine, syslog (or messages) will say "scsi 11:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Motorola Motorola Phone   2.31 PQ: 0 ANSI: ". How can I mount it?
[05:27] <blueglasses> workstation, dont download stuff from sites you dont trust, try another zip file on another site
[05:27] <kostkon> Qballjos, paste it on paste.ubuntu.com
[05:27] <MenZa> Trizicus: Having just removed all of my flash-related SOs, removed and purged flashplugin-installer, flashplugin-nonfree and nspluginwrapper, then installed flashplugin-installer, it still doesn't work. I cannot click in-line flash elements (in this case, a gallery).
[05:27] <BeBenCA> workstation:  thikn its ls -al
[05:27] <DanaG> 3 years is a long time.
[05:27] <Qballjos> **** Lijst van PLAYBACK hardware-apparaten ****
[05:27] <Qballjos> kaart 0: Intel [HDA Intel], apparaat 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog]
[05:27] <Qballjos>   Sub-apparaten: 1/1
[05:27] <Qballjos>   Sub-apparaat #0: subdevice #0
[05:27] <kostkon> Qballjos, did you get any output?
[05:27] <FloodBot1> Qballjos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:27] <workstation> blueglasses, its a reputable site
[05:28] <workstation> BeBenCA, ty
[05:28] <kostkon> Qballjos, not here, paste.ubuntu.com. anyway
[05:28] <freaky[t]> hey all. can anyone explain me how i can remove bookmarks from the "Places" menu?
[05:28] <mxe> hm...
[05:28] <acegiak> does anyone know the cure to a grub error "out of disk"?
[05:28] <blueglasses> workstation, you just have to doubleclik the file to open file manager
[05:28] <kostkon> Qballjos, ok. what problem do you have exactly?
[05:28] <Lint> freaky[t], right-clicking?
[05:28] <mxe> i onder what this 169.254.0.0 is
[05:28] <freaky[t]> Lint: rightclicking opens the bookmark
[05:28] <workstation> blueglasses, yes, and it opens fine
[05:28] <blueglasses> workstation, but you can do man zip and read
[05:28] <Qballjos> can hear any sound at all
[05:28] <DanaG> According to my bootchhart, it takes a full minute to boot.
[05:29] <DanaG> It used to take only, oh, 40 seconds.
[05:29] <BeBenCA> anyone pro at setting up dailup stuff? i spent over 4 days trying to get it work.. everything is installed. drivers and all. modem is intel536ep, doesnt dail correctly . dails but when it gets to authenication it craps out
[05:29] <feyner> mxe, shouldnt be an issue, can you connect to 192.168.1.1 now
[05:29] <kostkon> Qballjos, did you go to system → preferences  → sound to setup your audio?
[05:29] <Qballjos> yes
[05:29] <Qballjos> but doesnt do a thing
[05:29] <mxe> feyner, i cannot.
[05:29] <blueglasses> workstation, then you just pull the directory to a location with your mouse
[05:29] <Lint> freaky[t], still, there's a context menu of 'Rename' and 'Remove'
[05:29] <jahisthebalance> work around for flash issues no clicky craziness issues http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1312123
[05:29] <feyner> mxe, can you ping it?
[05:30] <workstation> blueglasses, Still get the same error message. This is really strange
[05:30] <sargento> I tried to install tovidgui but I got this message "todiscgui: Depende: tovid (=0.31-0ubuntu2) pero se va a instalar 0.31-2", any idea?
[05:30] <kostkon> Qballjos, if you open a player, does it play but you don't hear anything or do you get an error?
[05:30] <BeBenCA> damn people. ethernet stuff is easy...
[05:30] <DanaG> At least with nspluginwrapper, I can killall -9 npviewer.bin.
[05:30] <mxe> i'm getting an error from ping, oddly enough
[05:30] <BeBenCA> i wish ppp was..
[05:30] <rod_> Howdy! Just upgraded to karmic, anyone know how to put notifications back at the top?
[05:30] <Qballjos> it plays but no sound
[05:30] <MenZa> Trizicus: For the record, I can reproduce this in both chromium-browser and Firefox, so it's not a browser issue.
[05:30] <mxe> ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[05:30] <Qballjos> no error's
[05:30] <workstation> blueglasses, -rwxrwxrwx  1 workstation workstation 265429 2009-11-09 20:42 bluevibes.zip
[05:30] <kostkon> Qballjos, aha
[05:30] <MrKline> ubuntu-9.04-dvd-i386.iso
[05:30] <MrKline> deleted
[05:30] <Lint> freaky[t], Wait, you mean a Places menu in top bar?
[05:30] <freaky[t]> Lint: yes
[05:30] <workstation> blueglasses, permission on folder trying to extract to       drwxrwxrwx  2 workstation workstation   4096 2009-11-09 21:29 Downloads
[05:30] <kostkon> Qballjos, did you try all the profiles in the sound prefs. i.e. system → prefs → sound?
[05:31] <mxe> so no, i cannot ping it, feyner
[05:31] <Lint> MrKennie, try OpenSuSE, it's much better that this debian abortion
[05:31] <Lint> MrKline, try OpenSuSE, it's much better that this debian abortion
[05:31] <feyner> mxe, you you do ifconfig and use paste.ubuntu.com
[05:31] <Qballjos> i have tried all hardware output methods but still nothing
[05:31] <mxe> alright, hang on
[05:32] <Lint> freaky[t], there should be a item called 'Edit bookmarks' or something
[05:32] <DanaG> Last time I tried SuSE, the package manager was a pain.
[05:32] <freaky[t]> Lint: ok it's working now, thakn you ;D
[05:32] <MrKline> reason I had to downgrad ubuntu is because the latest version of it doesnt work with vmware tools, the reason I have to use in vmware is because it doesn't work with my old well known wireless adapter,even with ndiswrapper
[05:33] <kostkon> Qballjos, could you give in a terminal: alsamixer and check your volume levels there
[05:33] <MeVsTheVoices> MrKline: Are you asking for help, or just whining?
[05:33] <MrKline> mevs please read the channel rules and policies
[05:33] <mxe> feyner: http://paste.ubuntu.com/314842/
[05:33] <Qballjos> all volume levels voor out put volume are at 100 %
[05:33] <MrKline> if you would like I can have the bot give them to you, thanks
[05:34] <kostkon> Qballjos, any muted channels?
[05:34] <rod_> Howdy! Just upgraded to karmic, anyone know how to put notifications back at the top??
[05:34] <woodyjlw> how do you get keyboard and mouse to work after waking up from suspend mode on 8.10?  about every other time I suspend both keyboard and mouse lock up and I have to reboot by holding down power for 4 seconds
[05:34] <Qballjos> no muted channels
[05:34] <PhantomLink> my mom thinks this is ne neatest thing ever
[05:34] <feyner> mxe, are you working with your wired or wireless
[05:34] <PhantomLink> i showed her how file networking works
[05:34] <mxe> wired currently
[05:34] <F4wltytowers> !kubuntu
[05:34] <freaky[t]> does anybody know why the compiz rotate cube and desktop cube extensions only show two sides of a cube (i only have 2 desktops though) but in KDE it switched between two like if there were 4 sides on a cube
[05:35] <mxe> I'd like to get wired working first
[05:35] <PhantomLink> and now she's watching her pictures show up on her computer "magically"
[05:35] <feyner> mxe, mind bringing down the other interfaces in the meantime
[05:35] <mxe> Alright, sure thing.
[05:35] <PhantomLink> she smiled and told me that is the neatest thing
[05:35] <PhantomLink> I wouldn't be able to do this without your guys' support
[05:35] <PhantomLink> Thank you.
[05:35] <kostkon> Qballjos, hmm
[05:35] <Qballjos> in alsa my external doesnt have a volume bar
[05:35] <Silent_Echo> F4wltytowers, interesting thx for the tidbit
[05:35] <Silent_Echo> !KDE
[05:36] <Qballjos> but im working on a laptop so that should be normal
[05:36] <mxe> feyner: other interfaces are down
[05:36] <jahisthebalance> freaky right click panel add workspace switcher applet, right click to preferences make columns "4"
[05:36] <Silent_Echo> !GNOME
[05:36] <sargento> !KDE4
[05:37] <Qballjos> i solved it in alsa tried pussing m on the external an bammm sound
[05:37] <Silent_Echo> whats the difference between KDE and Gnome?
[05:37] <woodyjlw> I find that gnome desk top is much better organized and easier to use than kde myself
[05:37] <MenZa> Silent_Echo: everything :)
[05:37] <Qballjos> thanks kostkon for the help
[05:37] <Trupsalms1> could someone point me to a good asterisk channel other than #asterisk
[05:37] <iarp> lol
[05:37] <SodaPhis-> 'sup all
[05:37] <Silent_Echo> MenZa, guess i'll have to try it in a vm
[05:37] <Silent_Echo> !xubuntu
[05:38] <Lint> Silent_Echo, Gnome works, while KDE does not
[05:38] <MenZa> Silent_Echo: There are screenshots available :)
[05:38] <Trupsalms1> could someone point me to a good asterisk channel other than #asterisk
[05:38] <iarp> anyone have any issues with wireless not working in 9.10?
[05:38] <nickolaus> How do you restart the network drivers for ubuntu
[05:38] <woodyjlw> yes me
[05:38] <Silent_Echo> MenZa, Lint, are there youtube vids comparing the two, three includeing xfce?
[05:38] <MenZa> Silent_Echo: http://kde.org/announcements/4.3/images/kde430-desktop.png <- KDE 4.3
[05:39] <MenZa> Silent_Echo: You're on GNOME now, right?
[05:39] <jahisthebalance> GNOME is for people with subjective opinion that GNOME is better, and KDE is for people with the subjective opinion that KDE is better.
[05:39] <woodyjlw> I have video and wireless prob on 9.10
[05:39] <Lint> Silent_Echo, never thought about it
[05:39] <Silent_Echo> MenZa yup
[05:39] <MenZa> Silent_Echo: Then you'll see the above screenshot is very different from what you're used to.
[05:39] <Trupsalms1> could someone point me to a good asterisk channel other than #asterisk
[05:39] <MenZa> Trupsalms1: #asterisk is the only channel I can think of. Please stop repeating yourself so often.
[05:40] <PhantomLink> "repeaters are for tv signals"
[05:40] <PhantomLink> :P
[05:40] <DanaG> And cellphone signals.
[05:40] <DanaG> =þ
[05:40] <freaky[t]> is there anything like yakuake for gnome?
[05:41] <Silent_Echo> MenZa, agreed, i'll still try it out after all i wouldnt have found ubuntu if i just stuck with windows
[05:41] <MenZa> Silent_Echo: indeed! :)
[05:41] <woodyjlw> I cant get 9.04 or 9.10 to install on either desktop and dose not run good after installed on hp laptop.....8.10 runs great except for a suspend bug that only happens every other time it wakes.... it locks the keyboard and mouse and I have to reboot
[05:41] <Lint> Silent_Echo, Windows has a working taskbar at least
[05:41] <DanaG> !info guake
[05:41] <MenZa> Lint: Are you going to keep trolling, or are you planning on leaving anytime soon?
[05:42] <BeBenCA> nickolaus: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:42] <sterlin> Would you guys say the wireless apple keyboard is a good keyboard? A good gaming keyboard? OR just a clean nice-looking keybaord?
[05:42] <MenZa> sterlin: I'd say that question is offtopic for this channel :)
[05:42] <MrKline> i got a different version of ubuntu, and this one seems to be installin lot easier
[05:42] <nalioth> Lint: can we stay on topic, please?
[05:42] <MrKline> wonder why the dvd asked me million questions
[05:42] <jahisthebalance> tilda is also like yakuake
[05:42] <Silent_Echo> Lint, meh... i dont realy use the task bar too often.... use the ring switcher and cairo dock
[05:42] <Lint> MenZa, you have something to daresay?
[05:43] <Silent_Echo> Lint, but not bashing windows, its whatever feels confortable eh?
[05:43] <MenZa> Lint: Oh, I was just curious if you were planning on continuing obstructing the flow of the channel by going off-topic.
[05:43] <woodyjlw> is this only ubuntu support channel or is there more?
[05:43] <nalioth> folks, this is a help channel, not a "is this the one for me?" or "windows does this" discussion channel ( you can do all that in #ubuntu-offtopic )
[05:43] <MeVsTheVoices> woodyjlw: Ohh good god, I wish there were
[05:44] <woodyjlw> lol
[05:44] <MeVsTheVoices> ubuntu-for-adults, ubuntu-for-infants
[05:44] <jahisthebalance> ubuntu for infants would be pretty cool actually
[05:45] <Silent_Echo> oh...thx for reminding me nalioth....is it advised to use a antivirus program when useing wine?
[05:45] <xemacs4321> << think i need the infant version
[05:45] <nalioth> Silent_Echo: if you don't want viruses in your windows, sure
[05:45] <MeVsTheVoices> jahisthebalance: Your already there
[05:45] <Silent_Echo> nalioth, yeah but are viruses a threat through wine?
[05:46] <nalioth> Silent_Echo: not unless you run it as root
[05:46] <Silent_Echo> nalioth, now how do i know if i'm running it as root or not?
[05:46] <DanaG> GRRRRRRR: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=512522
[05:46] <nickolaus> I'm having trouble with my wireless connection. When I left click on the status bars it says "Wireless Networks. Device not ready." I have rebooted a few times and tried "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" still no help. Any ideas?
[05:46] <wgrant> nalioth: Or unless you value your files...
[05:46] <underdog7> any help anyone?  :  i have two computers networked over a router, let's call the A and B.  A shows itself (in Nautilus' "network" dialogu) but does not show B.  Comp B (in nautilus) shows A and B.  any ideas why A is not showing B as well?
[05:46] <MenZa> Silent_Echo: If you prefix it with 'sudo', you're running it as root.
[05:46] <nalioth> Silent_Echo: i suspect you'll know
[05:46] <MenZa> Silent_Echo: Or, if at any point, you're asked to give it admin capabilities.
[05:46] <MeVsTheVoices> Silent_Echo: They are a threat in wine, but through, I don't think so, unless people are making wine specific viruses
[05:47] <wgrant> Some viruses do run in Wine.
[05:47] <jahisthebalance> nicko open a terminal and run lspci, see if your wireless card is made by Atheros
[05:47] <woodyjlw> my only prob at this point is my retarded suspend mode locking up the keyboard and mouse, dont know why it is so frustrating but just want to know if there is any way to correct it.  I use this laptop in truck with a usb gps and road nav cause I am a dish network tech and travel to many homes in a day and every time it locks up
[05:47] <Silent_Echo> MeVsTheVoices, thx bro...
[05:47] <woodyjlw> most every time
[05:47] <Nautilus> underdog7: maybe nothing shared from A?
[05:47] <Nautilus> underdog7: err, I mean B?
[05:47] <DanaG> woodyjlw: does magic sysrq still work while it's locked?
[05:47] <_BAZ_> I installed a new NFS server. For testing purposes, I set it up to allow any client (*) to read/write to the share. From the client I mounted the share and was able to see the files, however I was restricted from accessing certain folders, and writing anywhere.  So from the client I did "sudo chmod 777 -R ~/Downloads/" and now I can read/write all folders and files - so the question is, as long as no one hacks my wifi, is this secure-ish?
[05:48] <DanaG> alt-sysrq-s, for sync.
[05:48] <underdog7> Nautilus: B is sharing
[05:48] <jahisthebalance> woody, you are probably better off not suspending then honestly
[05:48] <Nautilus> underdog7: ok, was a quick guess
[05:48] <woodyjlw> what is that?
[05:48] <DanaG> google for "magic sysrq"
[05:48] <woodyjlw> only thing I get is asking for password
[05:48] <underdog7> Nautilus: hehe np
[05:48] <MrKline> how did ubuntu get its proxy channel thing?
[05:48] <MrKline> all channels get that?
[05:50] <JohnFlux> Hey all
[05:50] <sumeetbali> hi
[05:50] <woodyjlw> ahh!  just thought of something.. only in truck dose the suspend mode lock keyboard and mouse when waking and only difference between truck and home is that in truck I have the usb gps plugged in. could the usb gps be the prob?
[05:50] <nickolaus> I'm having trouble with my wireless connection. When I left click on the status bars it says "Wireless Networks. Device not ready." I have rebooted a few times and tried "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" still no help. Any ideas?
[05:51] <JohnFlux> I want to get language input "just working" in ubuntu
[05:51] <wgrant> woodyjlw: Obscure USB devices can often cause problems like that, yeah.
[05:51] <JohnFlux> How can I get involved with ubuntu to get this working?
[05:51] <acegiak> any chance anyone can help me with a grub error?
[05:51] <wgrant> JohnFlux: What's broken?
[05:51] <JohnFlux> wgrant: well, out of the box, you can't type japanese
[05:51] <woodyjlw> so if I unplug gps before I close laptop it may wake ok?
[05:52] <wgrant> woodyjlw: Certainly worth a try.
[05:52] <JohnFlux> wgrant: for example
[05:52] <Silent_Echo> who in here is proficient and willing to help with webcam problems
[05:52] <bazhang> JohnFlux, you have scim installed
[05:52] <woodyjlw> lol well I have to work tomorrow so I will try that and see if it fixes my wake problem......
[05:53] <wgrant> bazhang, JohnFlux: And iBus as well, in Ubuntu 9.10.
[05:53] <wrapster> 64bit glib2-0 does not exits?
[05:54] <bazhang> wgrant, thanks
[05:54] <JohnFlux> wgrant: I don't think ibus is installed automatically.  And the demon is not started
[05:54] <woodyjlw> in 9.10 the suspend dose not work at all and wont even try to wake even with nothing in usb.... think there will be a fix soon for that cause I did like the looks of 9.10
[05:54] <wgrant> JohnFlux: IBus is installed by default in Ubuntu 9.10. When you run its configuration tool from System->Preferences->IBus Preferences, it will start the daemon for you.
[05:55] <DanaG> ibus icon is ugly.
[05:55] <DanaG> And ibus LATEX method is... broken.
[05:55] <wgrant> wrapster: It does not exist on i386 either. I presume you mean some other name.
[05:55] <JohnFlux> wgrant: which is too late by then
[05:55] <DanaG> IfyoutrytousetheLATEXinputmethod, itendsupeatingallyourspaces.
[05:55] <JohnFlux> wgrant: if you reboot, the daemon is not automatically started again
[05:55] <Silent_Echo> !LATEX
[05:56] <wgrant> JohnFlux: That's a bit stupid.
[05:56] <JohnFlux> wgrant: exactly
[05:56] <wrapster> wgrant: i mean this... libglib2.0-dev: /usr/lib/glib-2.0
[05:56] <zilla1> !samba
[05:56] <wgrant> JohnFlux: You might try asking in #ubuntu-devel. I'm not sure who's dealing with input methods at the moment.
[05:56] <wgrant> wrapster: libglib2.0-dev exists on amd64 too.
[05:56] <freaky[t]> can i save a session manually like i can do it with KDE? and is there anywhere a setting to not save sessions automatically?
[05:57] <Silent_Echo> !weechat
[05:57] <Silent_Echo> !oovoo
[05:57] <Silent_Echo> !skype
[05:57] <bazhang> Silent_Echo, please /msg ubottu
[05:57] <wolfjb> what is the difference between startpar and makefile for concurrency options in /etc/init.d/rc? I can't seem to find docs on it (pointer to it would be appreciated)
[05:57] <acegiak> anyone free? this grub error is killing me
[05:58] <wrapster> hardy?
[05:58] <babi> can i help u? acegiak?
[05:58] <wrapster> wgrant: hardy?
[05:58] <acegiak> babi: any idea what the grub error "out of disk" means?
[05:59] <acegiak> babi: installing karmic on a p4 with a 320gb ide drive
[05:59] <eshannon> Anyone help me reinstall Flash after upgrading to 910
[05:59] <wgrant> libglib2.0-dev |   2.16.3-1 |         hardy | amd64, i386
[05:59] <JohnFlux> wgrant: If I do:  sudo apt-get remove ibus     then it does not propose to remove  kubuntu-desktop (which is installed).   Doesn't that prove that kubuntu-desktop does not depend on ibus, and is thus not installed by default?
[05:59] <wgrant> wrapster: ^^ that is, yes
[05:59] <wgrant> JohnFlux: I do not know about Kubuntu.
[05:59] <Lint> freaky[t], I believe there's an option in 'Settings'->'Startup applications'
[05:59] <wrapster> huh.. how come im unable to find it as libglib2
[05:59] <wgrant> JohnFlux: However, that does not mean that.
[05:59] <babi> means u need to shutdown your machine cause it can be tired. how many ours your computer is on?
[05:59] <wrapster> what should i specify the name as?
[05:59] <wgrant> JohnFlux: The metapackages often Recommend rather than Depend on things now.
[06:00] <wgrant> JohnFlux: Which means that while they are installed by default, they can be removed too.
[06:00] <acegiak> babi
[06:00] <JohnFlux> wgrant: ah.  How can I check?
[06:00] <babi> turnacegiak
[06:00] <wgrant> JohnFlux: apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop | grep ibus
[06:00] <babi> acegiak
[06:00] <acegiak> babi: booting after first install
[06:00] <wgrant> JohnFlux: That shows the Recommends line, so it probably recommends it.
[06:00] <JohnFlux> wgrant: ah, yes indeed, thanks
[06:00] <depood> Hello!, i'm realy new to linux/ubuntu. I'm trying to install ubuntu on a new computer with 2 hdds. Ubuntu seems to create a nvidia raid. Is there any possibility to install "normal" ? (sry for this realy stupid question :) )
[06:01] <babi> dont reboot. just turn off.
[06:01] <acegiak> babi: I'll give it a shot
[06:01] <JohnFlux> depood: what's an "nvidia raid" ?
[06:01] <Silent_Echo> anyone proficient with webcams?
[06:02] <acegiak> babi: same error after letting it sit powered off for a bit
[06:02] <acegiak> what's grub's memory requirement?
[06:03] <graw|school> acegiak: RAM? Less than 10 kB
[06:03] <acegiak> hmm, ok
[06:03] <graw|school> At least I thought so.
[06:03] <MrKline> i installed ubuntu
[06:03] <babi> acegiak: go to bed.
[06:03] <Lint> depood, use manual partitioning mode
[06:03] <graw|school> Really not much anyway
[06:03] <acegiak> babi: it's like 4.30pm
[06:04] <wrapster> wgrant: i only have it under /usr/lib and not under /usr/lib/amd64 ?
[06:04] <wgrant> wrapster: Is that a problem?
[06:04] <babi> acegiak: god bless u... good night
[06:04] <acegiak> graw|school: yeah thought so
[06:04] <wrapster> wgrant: should it be?
[06:04] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  I'm going to be running apache on my linux box, but I wanted to know which version to get and where?
[06:05] <wgrant> wrapster: No. Lots of stuff build-depends on glib, so if there was something wrong then hundreds of packages would be broken.
[06:05] <wgrant> SeanInSeattle: Try the 'apache2' package.
[06:05] <Lint> SeanInSeattle, will it be available from Internet?
[06:05] <wolfjb> what is the difference between startpar and makefile for concurrency options in /etc/init.d/rc? I can't seem to find docs on it (pointer to it would be appreciated)
[06:05] <acegiak> graw|school: any idea what "out of disk" might mean then?
[06:06] <wrapster> wgrant: no but my question here is ,
[06:06] <acegiak> cause I thought grub2 was built for big hard disks
[06:06] <Trupsalms1> could someone help me
[06:06] <wrapster> wgrant: #file libglib-2.0.so ---> 32bit elf....
[06:06] <Trupsalms1> please
[06:06] <Trupsalms1> a few moments
[06:06] <acegiak> trupsalms1: what's the problem?
[06:06] <wrapster> wgrant: so thats obvious that it does cannot be used for 64 isnt it...
[06:06] <wrapster> wgrant: or am i worng..
[06:06] <Trupsalms1> could i please pm u
[06:06] <djolefol> How to update NetworkManager without a reboot while using Hardy LiveCD?
[06:06] <SeanInSeattle> wgrant:  Is apache2 the right version, or is it a branch of the main apache project?
[06:06] <wgrant> wrapster: Are you on amd64 or i386?
[06:07] <SeanInSeattle> Lint:  It may, but why does that matter?
[06:07] <Trupsalms1> acegiak
[06:07] <nickolaus> I'm having trouble with my wireless connection. When I left click on the status bars it says "Wireless Networks. Device not ready." I have rebooted a few times and tried "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" still no help. Any ideas?
[06:07] <wgrant> SeanInSeattle: It's Apache 2.2, which is the current stable Apache release.
[06:07] <wrapster> amamd64
[06:07] <depood> mh.. i'll try it (again). thanks :)
[06:07] <wrapster> wgrant: amd64
[06:07] <MeVsTheVoices> wrapster: No, 32 will under most circumstances run on 64, it's vice versa that will cause real headaches
[06:07] <SeanInSeattle> wgrant:  Cool.  Ok, that's what I was trying to figure out.
[06:07] <B4R74zy> can you run lamp server on 9.10 desktop
[06:07] <shiva__> hi
[06:07] <shiva__> all
[06:07] <wgrant> MeVsTheVoices: It's not quite that simple.
[06:07] <SeanInSeattle> wgrant:  I'll get that one.
[06:08] <Trupsalms1> acegiak: could i pm me
[06:08] <Lint> SeanInSeattle, if it does, you should use nginx proxy or something, because version in repository is likely do have vulnerabilities
[06:08] <wgrant> Lint: Um, no.
[06:08] <wgrant> Lint: It's in main, so it will get updates very quickly after they are discovered.
[06:08] <acegiak> truepsalms1: what wireless card?
[06:08] <wgrant> Lint: nginx, on the other hand, does not get timely security updates.
[06:08] <Silent_Echo> how often are the programs in the repository updated
[06:08] <SeanInSeattle> Lint:  What do you mean?  What kind of vulnerabilities does apache have?
[06:08] <wrapster> MeVsTheVoices: so your telling me i can go ahead and build what every i want and use the 32bit link something that im compiling for 64bit?
[06:09] <TooLZ9999> #exit
[06:09] <zilla1> I'm a little perplexed. I can see my windows machines when I run findsmb, but I don't see them listen when I navigate to the workgroup via the GUI. What gives?
[06:09] <wgrant> wrapster: No, hence the "not quite that simple"
[06:09] <wgrant> wrapster: apt-cache show libglib2.0-dev | grep Filename
[06:10] <B4R74zy> can you run lamp server on 9.10 desktop
[06:10] <MeVsTheVoices> wgrant: No, you should build it for 64, look up the march variable for make
[06:10] <wrapster> wgrant: dists/hardy-stable/main/binary-solaris-i386/libdevel/libglib2.0-dev_2.16.3-1nexenta2_solaris-i386.deb
[06:10] <SeanInSeattle> Lint / Wgrant:  Meh, no worries about the vulnerabilties.  I'm just doing dev on my laptop.  I'll just go with apache2.
[06:10] <SeanInSeattle> Thanks guys.
[06:11] <wrapster> wgrant: its not ubuntu...btw
[06:11] <wgrant> wrapster: You are in the wrong channel.
[06:11] <wrapster> wgrant: thought as much..
[06:11] <DanaG> weird... every time pidgin's sound plays, my usb sound card drops out for about a tenth of a second..
[06:11] <MeVsTheVoices> wgrant: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.1.1/gcc/Preprocessor-Options.html#Preprocessor%20Options
[06:11] <wrapster> wgrant: thats the case on ubuntu as well..
[06:12] <Trupsalms1> http://pastebin.com/m52d5e74
[06:12] <wrapster> wgrant: Filename: pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-dev_2.20.1-0ubuntu2.1_i386.deb ;;;;;;Filename: pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0dev_2.20.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[06:12] <wrapster> so there is no 64bit for it.
[06:12] <Trupsalms1> please take a look
[06:12] <Trupsalms1> please help
[06:12] <wgrant> wrapster: That is an i386 system.
[06:12] <MrKline> ubuntu after wastin 35 minutes installin now says it has a bios error in vmware
[06:12] <wgrant> wrapster: As was the first one.
[06:12] <zilla1> odd.. but when I connect to previously open machines, i can still access it. Any thoughts?
[06:12] <MrKline> im glad I didn't install on a harddrive
[06:12] <MrKline> :S
[06:12] <Trupsalms1> if u have seen this before and know a solution please help
[06:12] <wrapster> hmm..
[06:12] <Trupsalms1> http://pastebin.com/m52d5e74
[06:13] <wrapster> wgrant: in anycase how do i search if this exists on packages.ubuntu.com?
[06:13] <wrapster> could you pls tell me that...
[06:13] <NoTownKasper> Anyone know how to set up ubuntu 9.10 to share files across a wired network with 2 windows vista machines? In 9.04 it was ridiculously simple...and I miss that. :(
[06:13] <wgrant> wrapster: It exists. I don't use packages.ubuntu.com.
[06:14] <wrapster> wgrant: hmm... in that case how do you infer that it exists? I mean I'd like to know coz need to get that pkg
[06:14] <freaky[t]> is there a way i can modify the notification window at the upper right ?
[06:14] <wgrant> wrapster: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/RELEASE/ARCHITECTURE/PACKAGE
[06:14] <nickolaus> Why would my wireless network stop working out of the blue?
[06:14] <syn-ack> um, yeah I'd say it exists since well, I have it installed here.
[06:15] <sabat> how do I mount a wubi root.dsk
[06:15] <wrapster> wgrant: there is no page with this address on launchpad?
[06:15] <wrapster> is it because of https?
[06:15] <wrapster> or should i register first
[06:15] <Silent_Echo> NoTownKasper with or without a router inbetween
[06:16] <DanaG> har: http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/8700/screenshot2q.png
[06:16] <NoTownKasper> Silent_Echo: With. But that was never a problem before.
[06:16] <zetheroo> Ok ... I am a tad confused now ... I thought that Ubuntu machines could communicate over a network without Samba and that Samba was only really needed if you wanted to mingle Windows machines with Ubuntu machines on the network ....
[06:16] <zilla1> NoTownKasper -- what's giving you trouble? apt-get install system-config-samba samba smbfs
[06:16] <wgrant> wrapster: To which URL did you go?
[06:16] <zilla1> set up the shares there, and your vista machines should have access
[06:17] <NoTownKasper> zilla1: I have samba installed, but the required config is a bit confusing. I can see the 2 vista machines, but they can't see me.
[06:17] <user__> hi
[06:17] <user__> where can i find kernel debug symbols?
[06:17] <Silent_Echo> NoTownKasper, sry  i was thinking remote desktop
[06:17] <user__> vmlinux?
[06:17] <MeVsTheVoices> zetheroo: Ehhh.... they can if you set it up, sftp, samba, nfs, the only difference is that without third party software, the only filesharing a windows can do is smb
[06:17] <zilla1> NoTownKasper, do you have a share setup?
[06:17] <Trupsalms1> http://pastebin.com/m52d5e74
[06:18] <zetheroo> MeVsTheVoices: ok ... well I have only Ubuntu machines ... I don't need smb ... right?
[06:18] <NoTownKasper> zilla1: That's my problem, I thought I did...I have several folders supposedly shared...but the samba config is asking for all sorts of things it never asked me for before.
[06:18] <DanaG> hmm, what else would you use for sharing?
[06:19] <Lint> zetheroo, you would like samba, because it's alternatives are much worse
[06:19] <zilla1> "the samba config"  the one from the system menu?
[06:20] <Lint> zilla1, it's 'Published folders', I believe
[06:20] <hick0rd> Hello, this message is being occurred in syslog continuously: Nov 10 06:55:42 home pulseaudio[18046]: ratelimit.c: 100 events suppressed
[06:20] <zilla1> i believe that'd be asking you for a directory, a sharename, and some radio buttons for permissioning, right
[06:20] <hick0rd> What is it ?
[06:20] <NoTownKasper> zilla1: system>Administration>samba yeah. That's what I had to do to even get the folders shared. if I try sharing them via nautilus directly, I get errors about missing lock folders. :\
[06:20] <zetheroo> Lint: I have used Samba and I do like it ... but I was sure someone had told me before that its only really needed for Windows to Ubuntu shares and not Ubuntu to Ubuntu shares
[06:20] <MeVsTheVoices> zetheroo: You need either it or one of it's alternatives to share files, but no, you aren't limited to samba
[06:20] <DanaG> hmm, did that person say what you should use instead of samba?
[06:21] <zilla1> ok, mine's not a clean install, its an upgrade from 9.04, no naturally things are going to be just off enough so that you can't follow where I've been
[06:21] <zetheroo> MeVsTheVoices: so is there a built in sharing system in Ubuntu?
[06:21] <zetheroo> DanaG: you talking to me? :)
[06:21] <zilla1> I've been messing with Samba settings today, and I saw a mention of locking, but i'll be buggered if i can find it now
[06:21] <NoTownKasper> zilla1: Great...:\
[06:21] <zilla1> do you have any other boxen laying around?
[06:21] <zilla1> sorry bro
[06:22] <ionix> er todsa004
[06:22] <DanaG> zetheroo: yup.
[06:22] <hick0rd> Any ideas?
[06:22] <DanaG> If not using samba, what WOULD you use?
[06:22] <NoTownKasper> I'm seriously losing enthusiasm with 9.10. :\
[06:22] <zetheroo> DanaG: I ca't recall what it was called ... but I did not have to install anything extra to use it
[06:22] <MeVsTheVoices> zetheroo: No hehe, there is nothing that comes with, that you would get with your ubuntu distro, you'd have to install samba, but you aren't limited to samba
[06:22] <zilla1> Samba outta the box is working for me on XP, not on 98 or 3.11. I don't have a box to test  w/ visa
[06:22] <zilla1> *vista
[06:22] <user__> what's the problem?
[06:23] <user__> check /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:23] <Lint> zetheroo, there are legacy methods like nfs, uucp, rsync or (s)ftp, but they're clearly not something the most users want
[06:23] <user__> google smb.conf
[06:23] <user__> or in console, type
[06:23] <zetheroo> MeVsTheVoices: wow that really sucks! Why in the world is there nothing built-in for this .... nvm
[06:23] <freaky[t]> where can i change gdm theme?
[06:23] <user__> man smb.conf
[06:23] <zetheroo> Lint: it may have been sftp
[06:23] <zilla1> @user_ what would I be looking for there. i'm not an expert, but I've turned on and off encryption, security settings the lanman fix and I haven't found a solution et
[06:23] <zetheroo> Lint: can you share a printer with sftp?
[06:24] <depood> Now, i have tried to remove the "raid" system to install ubuntu new .. but i can't delete the /dev/mapper/nvidia_fhbjeje1 device :/
[06:24] <user__> don't install samba4
[06:24] <user__> just install samba
[06:24] <DanaG> !info system-config-samba
[06:24] <NoTownKasper> Well, smb.conf is listing the folders as shared...
[06:24] <zetheroo> NoTownKasper: sorry to hear that :(
[06:24] <DanaG> a more useful thingamajig.
[06:25] <michele> ciao
[06:25] <user__> good..
[06:25] <michele> !list
[06:25] <user__> check if samba 3 server is running
[06:25] <bazhang> !it | michele
[06:25] <user__>  netstat -a -p -t -n | less
[06:26] <zetheroo> I have found Samba to be pretty reliable in the past ... but no more reliable than Windows sharing  .... and Windows sharing can be shocking at times ...
[06:26] <zilla1> smbd is running
[06:26] <user__> did you add the user already?
[06:26] <zilla1> actually, 3 instances
[06:26] <zilla1> odd
[06:26] <user__> smbpasswd?
[06:26] <DanaG> hmm, Windows sharing can be a pain, with regards to hostnames.
[06:26] <DanaG> Do you have winbind installed?  If your router doesn't do local dns, you may need it.
[06:26] <user__> btw, make sure it is samba v3, not v4.
[06:26] <user__> i think v4 is not working
[06:26] <zetheroo> DanaG: me?
[06:26] <zilla1> is there an easy way to check that?
[06:27] <NoTownKasper> Ugh...I think I'm just going to downgrade and get my one-click sharing back> ;\
[06:27] <zetheroo> DanaG: it helps to mention names .. :)
[06:27] <user__> depends on your package manager
[06:27] <zetheroo> NoTownKasper: you dealing with a fresh install?
[06:27] <zilla1> checking
[06:27] <user__> just search samba, it should show the version of the package installed
[06:27] <NoTownKasper> zetheroo: Yeah. Always. Upgrades leave -way- too much junk behind for my tastes.
[06:27] <zetheroo> anyone know how to get SFTP going? ...
[06:27] <PRIDE> mmm...is everyone tied up or can someone help me with my webcam...dosnt work in skype and a pain in cheese
[06:27] <zetheroo> NoTownKasper: and still so much trouble?
[06:27] <user__> sftp?  you just need to install sshd
[06:27] <user__> or ssh server
[06:28] <MeVsTheVoices> zetheroo: Get an ssh daemon going
[06:28] <wgrant> NoTownKasper: Like?
[06:28] <zilla1> package is just labelled samba
[06:28] <MeVsTheVoices> zetheroo: I think the package is opensshd
[06:28] <zilla1> not samba 4
[06:28] <wgrant> zetheroo: install 'openssh-server'. That's it.
[06:28] <hick0rd> Hello, this message is being occurred in syslog continuously: Nov 10 06:55:42 home pulseaudio[18046]: ratelimit.c: 100 events suppressed
[06:28] <hick0rd> Any ideas?
[06:28] <zilla1> i'm presuming that it is then samba3
[06:28] <zetheroo> MeVsTheVoices: ok thanks
[06:28] <PRIDE> if no one here can help, could someone point me in the rite direction
[06:28] <zetheroo> wgrant: thank you
[06:28] <NoTownKasper> zetheroo: Yeah...samba refuses to play nice. Or I'm missing a step somewhere that was never required before. :\
[06:29] <maniel> hi
[06:29] <user__> type samba, then enter
[06:29] <zilla1> smbpasswd is setup, and running
[06:29] <MeVsTheVoices> !samba
[06:29] <user__> if the program run, samba v4 is installed
[06:29] <user__> otherwise, smbd is v3
[06:29] <zetheroo> NoTownKasper: so you just right-clicked on the folder to share and then Samba installs automatically ... right?
[06:29] <zilla1> i've got a share set to use guest though
[06:29] <NoTownKasper> zetheroo: That's what I did in previous versions, when I tried it after this fresh install, I got errors about missing lock folders.
[06:30] <maniel> is there any fix for kde4 in carmic to make it shutdown/restart my computer?:)
[06:30] <maniel> *karmic
[06:30] <zetheroo> "Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments."  ...... So what is the Linux to Linux method :)
[06:30] <DanaG> magic?
[06:30] <inivex> NFS
[06:30] <wgrant> zetheroo: I use SFTP between most of my hosts.
[06:30] <zilla1> nfs, but you don't want any of that
[06:30] <PRIDE> ubuntu one
[06:30] <DanaG> nfs is cryptic, isn't it?
[06:30] <wgrant> zetheroo: Except when I need something permanent, in which case I use NFS4
[06:30] <PRIDE> !ubuntu_one
[06:30] <wgrant> But that's overcomplex for your case.
[06:30] <inivex> nah, nfs is SUPERDUPER easy to set up
[06:30] <MeVsTheVoices> DanaG: Yup, still works though!
[06:30] <maniel> i've installed kde4 from carmic instead of jaunty backports i've installed before update to carmic
[06:30] <zetheroo> NoTownKasper: ugh ...  that is odd ... worked just fine for me ... maybe a reinstall? ... :)
[06:30] <DanaG> Oh, and Windows CAN do nfs server and client.
[06:30] <wgrant> PRIDE: Try #ubuntuone.
[06:31] <wgrant> DanaG: Assuming you trust SFU...
[06:31] <maniel> s/carmic/karmic/
[06:31] <NoTownKasper> zetheroo: lol. If I reinstall, I'm downgrading to a more reliable version for my needs. lol
[06:31] <zetheroo> wgrant: oh so its not permanent?
[06:31] <PRIDE> wgrant, actually i need help with my webcam mroe then ubuntu one.... i was just suggesting that as it sounds like filesharing
[06:31] <daemonza> Hi, I wonder can you use Ubuntu one between a ubuntu machine and osx?
[06:31] <wgrant> zetheroo: Depends what you mean.
[06:32] <djolefol> How to make manual update of NetworkManager effective without a reboot while using Hardy LiveCD?
[06:32] <zetheroo> NoTownKasper: but a reinstall is only 20min ... no!? ... not that I am at all against just using what works for you ...
[06:32] <wgrant> zetheroo: For your situation it is more than likely fine. Don't worry about it.
[06:32] <zilla1> why would I be able to see my windows network when i run findsmb, but not when I navigate to windows network in nautilus
[06:32] <zetheroo> wgrant: well, after reboot will the shares still be there?
[06:32] <NoTownKasper> zetheroo: No, a reinstall is like 4 hours, if we include all the 3rd party, non-repo software I'll need to install along with it.
[06:32] <maniel> i've deleted my ~/.kde and set it up again from scratch, and it's not able to restart/shutdown again
[06:32] <Jordan_U> daemonza: You can use ubuntu one's web interface on OSX but their is no mac client
[06:32] <maniel> it was able to do it on clean kde4 config
[06:32] <wgrant> zetheroo: If you connect to them using Places->Connect to server..., yes.
[06:32] <chetnick> my ubuntu GUI freezes randomly i can move mouse everything else is frozen, cant figure out what it is. I installed kde-desktop thinking that is Gnome related. The same thing happens. What to do?
[06:32] <greezmunkey> heh internet connection sharing wireless here to my windoze box...pretty cool
[06:33] <zetheroo> NoTownKasper: I may have a solution for all the 3rd party stuff :) Ubuntu Tweak ... its awesome
[06:33] <Jordan_U> daemonza: Drop Box is a proprietary service that has clients for Linux Windows and OSX though
[06:33] <zetheroo> wgrant: even after a reboot they will still be there in the menu ... also what about sharing printer?
[06:33] <DanaG> For me, a reinstall takes much longer... I have loads of customized system-level stuff.
[06:33] <Madpilot> Anyone know how to mount an LVM volume onto the Ubuntu live CD? Having harddrive issues, need to know how bad the damage is, and my /home is inside LVM...
[06:33] <PRIDE> Need help with getting my laptop's webcam to work, worked in 8.10 and 9.04, if no one can help me here, please point me in the rite direction?
[06:34] <zetheroo> NoTownKasper: also you would only reinstall and then right away test out Samba before doing all the rest ...
[06:34] <zilla1> chetnick enlightenment? twm?
[06:34] <NoTownKasper> zetheroo: No offence to the Ubuntu devs, but I'm a lazy sort, if I have to reinstall, I'll reinstall to something I -know- works. :P
[06:34] <wgrant> Madpilot: sudo apt-get install lvm2
[06:35] <Jordan_U> Madpilot: sudo "lvm vgscan" "sudo vgchange -a y"
[06:35] <zetheroo> PRIDE: sorry ... webcams are so finicky ... I had a USB one that worked great in Jaunty and then after one kernel update stopped working .. then in Karmic its working again ... so it seems to be pretty hit-n-miss at times ...
[06:35] <chetnick> zilla1: what?
[06:35] <wgrant> Madpilot: You might need to 'sudo vgscan' and 'sudo vgchange -a y' after that; I forget about Hardy's behaviour.
[06:35] <chetnick> zilla1: its gnome and kde.
[06:35] <zetheroo> NoTownKasper: fair enough ... but look Ubuntu Tweak up ... its got a great tool for adding 3rd party repos ... very fast and simple
[06:36] <PRIDE> zetheroo, yeah but i heard that you could do something about it to get it to work
[06:36] <Madpilot> wgrant, Jordan_U - thanks
[06:36] <Jordan_U> Madpilot: np
[06:36] <Jivedue> hi, I'm looking through some tutorials on reinstalling grub, and it says to use "sudo grub" from the ubuntu live cd.
[06:36] <PRIDE> whats the channel for the devs? ubuntu-dev?
[06:36] <Jivedue> But my live cd (ubuntu 9.10) only has a bunch of grub-<something> programs.
[06:36] <zetheroo> PRIDE: afaik its all pretty much built into Ubuntu Karmic .... before you would need to install extra stuff ...
[06:36] <Jivedue> Does anyone know which of the dozen or so I should use?
[06:37] <Jordan_U> Jivedue: If you did a fresh install of 9.10 you are using grub2
[06:37] <NoTownKasper> zetheroo: Odd, I tried again to add the shares via nautilus...or sudo-nautilus I should say...and got this error: "'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. The connection was refused. Maybe smbd is not running."
[06:37] <wgrant> !grub2 | Jivedue
[06:37] <PRIDE> zetheroo afaik?
[06:37] <PRIDE> !afaik
[06:37] <zetheroo> NoTownKasper: there is a command to restart Samba
[06:37] <zey> hi
[06:37] <zetheroo> PRIDE: "as far as I know" :)
[06:37] <zey> good afternoon
[06:38] <PRIDE> zetheroo...XP...ok sry thx
[06:38] <zetheroo> NoTownKasper: or reboot?
[06:38] <NoTownKasper> zetheroo: Have rebooted 3 times since I started tweaking with this...:\
[06:38] <zey> i have laptop with dual boot
[06:38] <zetheroo> Jivedue: I wrote a How-To on that ... let me see if i can find it ..
[06:38] <zey> XP and ubuntu
[06:38] <Jordan_U> zetheroo: No need, it's in the official documentation
[06:38] <jimjen> hello
[06:38] <Jivedue> zetheroo: I'd appreciate it a lot though.
[06:39] <zey> my video memory in XP is 1024 MB
[06:39] <DanaG> Jivedue: those instructions are obsolete with grub2 -- they only apply to grub1.
[06:39] <Jivedue> uh oh.
[06:39] <jimjen> im new to this im from windows
[06:39] <zey> but on ubuntu 256 MB
[06:39] <jimjen> lol
[06:39] <DanaG> Try this instead: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[06:39] <jimjen> now im on ubuntu
[06:39] <zetheroo> Jordan_U: yeah .
[06:39] <DanaG> or whatever drive is correct.
[06:39] <zey> can anyone explain it?
[06:39] <zetheroo> Jordan_U: I still like to record what worked for me :)
[06:39] <Madpilot> Jordan_U, wgrant - excellent, /home seems intact, gparted sez there's bad sectors in my (non-LVM'd) /root - was terrified I'd lost everything
[06:40] <jimjen> how do i see a list of rooms
[06:40] <MeVsTheVoices> '/list'
[06:40] <wgrant> Madpilot: Eep. cp cp cp!
[06:40] <MeVsTheVoices> Praise ALLAH!
[06:40] <Jordan_U> zetheroo: The best place to do that is in the ubuntu wiki where people can find it and update / fix it as needed
[06:40] <Jivedue> I just wish I had the ubuntu 8.04 live cd handy.
[06:40] <Lint> NoTownKasper, what your server is running?
[06:40] <zetheroo> Jordan_U: true ..
[06:41] <porter1> Anyone else experience a kermel panic after loading the Broadcom STA drivers in 2.6.31 on karmic? After I determined 31 was screwed, I loaded my old 28 kernel, which works, except my mousepad is now not working...
[06:41] <Madpilot> wgrant, yeah, time to reformat the old 120GB HDD I wasn't using, back everything up to it, then attempt to reformat the big FUBAR'd 500GB and (ideally) isolate the badblocks...
[06:41] <NoTownKasper> Lint: What?
[06:41] <zetheroo> Jivedue: http://techiesrus.wordpress.com/2009/08/16/repair-grub-using-ubuntu-livecd/
[06:41] <Jordan_U> porter1: Do the b43 drivers support your card?
[06:42] <Lint> NoTownKasper, what OS your SMB server is running, and in which language?
[06:42] <zetheroo> DanaG: just saw what you said about GRUB 2 ... good to know
[06:42] <porter1> Jordan_U, no, they suck even more, and have been a pain for quite a few years now.
[06:42] <Jivedue> zetheroo: The problem is that I can't run just "grub" w/ my 9.10 CD.
[06:42] <NoTownKasper> Lint: Ubuntu 9.10, english.
[06:42] <Jivedue> I already know what I need to run in just "grub"
[06:42] <Jivedue> What I don't know is what to run in these other "grub2" programs :(
[06:42] <Jordan_U> porter1: Case in point, that page is out of date and will not work with grub2, whereas the wiki instructions will work with grub legacy and grub2
[06:43] <zetheroo> Jivedue: I see ... and I take it you have searched google for an answer :)
[06:43] <Jordan_U> zetheroo: ^^
[06:43] <Jivedue> somewhat, heh (;
[06:43] <Jordan_U> porter1: Sorry, wrong nick on that last comment
[06:43] <porter1> Jordan_U, np
[06:43] <Jivedue> I'll keep looking, thanks though
[06:43] <zetheroo> Jordan_U: link?
[06:44] <gameboo> hello, I edited my /etc/fstab for mounting a ntfs drive with the exec option, but it appears I'm still not able to run my executable file from this drive. Does anybody have an idea?
[06:44] <Jordan_U> zetheroo: http://techiesrus.wordpress.com/2009/08/16/repair-grub-using-ubuntu-livecd/ Or did you mean you want a link to the wiki instructions?
[06:45] <zetheroo> Jordan_U: ha ... to the wiki of course :) ... I know the link to my blog ....
[06:45] <jimjen> when i type /list my window closesa
[06:45] <jimjen> closes
[06:45] <jimjen> can anyone help
[06:45] <porter1> gameboo, make sure drive is mounted writable, and that you as a user have permissions.
[06:46] <bazhang> jimjen, try /msg alis list help
[06:46] <Jordan_U> zetheroo: I thought you might be asking as if "what link?", meaning gets lost in text:) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:46] <indus> jimjen: hi when you type what where
[06:46] <zetheroo> Jordan_U: cheers
[06:46] <gameboo> I think all of this is done already
[06:46] <gameboo> here is my fstab
[06:47] <chetnick> my ubuntu GUI freezes randomly i can move mouse everything else is frozen, cant figure out what it is. I installed kde-desktop thinking that is Gnome related. The same thing happens. What to do?
[06:47] <jimjen> helllo
[06:47] <Jordan_U> zetheroo: There is also the general grub2 specific page @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[06:47] <Lint> gameboo, do you have a drive letter assigned to that drive?
[06:47] <gameboo> /dev/sda1 /mnt/windoz ntfs auto,user,exec,user,rw,sync 0 0
[06:47] <ReL1K> anyone using nvidia 230m on 9.10?
[06:47] <jimjen> it will not let me type /list
[06:47] <Jordan_U> chetnick: What GPU?
[06:48] <jimjen>  /list
[06:48] <NoTownKasper> OK, when I try to add the shares via user-level nautilus, I get this error: "Samba's testparm returned error 1: Loaded smb config files from --parameter-name=usershare allow guests
[06:48] <NoTownKasper> lp_load: refreshing parameters from --parameter-name=usershare allow guests - params.c:OpenConfFile() - Unable to open configuration file "--parameter-name=usershare allow guests": No such file or directory Error loading services."
[06:48] <NoTownKasper> Stupid formatting, my appologies.
[06:48] <Lint> gameboo, or Z: assigned to / ?
[06:48] <jimjen> how do i switch rooms
[06:48] <gameboo> what do you mean ?
[06:49] <Jordan_U> jimjen: /join #room
[06:49] <lstarnes> jimjen: /join #channelname
[06:49] <porter1> Jordan_U, the B43 driver reappeared after flipping kernels back. Is it the new default driver for broadcom b43 stuff now?
[06:49] <zetheroo> Jivedue: are you seeing those links?
[06:49] <Lint> gameboo, do you have Z: assigned in Wine settings?
[06:49] <gameboo> I dont use wine
[06:49] <zetheroo> NoTownKasper: obviously you already thought of reinstalling Samba ...
[06:49] <Jordan_U> porter1: It's the open source driver
[06:49] <gameboo> It's not a windows executable
[06:50] <NoTownKasper> zetheroo: Indeed, just did it...and that's the error I received. lol
[06:50] <gameboo> it's just a binary  file that I made
[06:50] <Lint> gameboo, so what's the error and file permissions?
[06:50] <NoTownKasper> zetheroo: Well, received when I tried to create the share. :(
[06:50] <q0_0p> the module b43 loads but i'm unable to pick up wireless AP's
[06:50] <gameboo> let me give it to you
[06:50] <q0_0p> when doing sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[06:51] <Jordan_U> q0_0p: Do you have a directory /lib/firmware/b43 ?
[06:51] <q0_0p> Jordan_U, yes
[06:51] <NoTownKasper> zetheroo: I get the same error now when I try to create the share as root too, so at least now the errors are matching, that's progress, right?
[06:51] <zetheroo> NoTownKasper: right ... have you reinstalled samba from within Synaptic Package manager?
[06:51] <gameboo> a.out
[06:51] <gameboo> bash: ./a.out: Permission denied
[06:51] <NoTownKasper> zetheroo: Yes.
[06:51] <Madpilot> Next question - is it possible to tease an Epiphany backup or datadump of some sort out of a non-functional Ubuntu install?
[06:51] <user__> chmod +x a.out
[06:51] <Madpilot> Sorry, Evolution, not Epiph
[06:51] <gameboo> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20313 2009-11-09 18:57 a.out
[06:51] <q0_0p> Jordan_U, is it safe to remove the folder and try to install drivers again?
[06:51] <gameboo> oops
[06:51] <abbe> hi everyone
[06:51] <zetheroo> NoTownKasper: how about complete removal ...
[06:52] <q0_0p> Jordan_U, looking off of this site http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[06:52] <Madpilot> last Evo datadump was from April. I fail at keeping backups...
[06:52] <Jordan_U> q0_0p: The drivers won't work without that directory
[06:52] <NoTownKasper> zetheroo: One moment, let me try that.
[06:52] <user__> a.out? that's not a built-in program
[06:52] <q0_0p> Jordan_U, so if i remove the directory i shouldn't be able to modprobe b43?
[06:52] <|ntegra|> help please > there's something wrong with my mp3lame or something,, I ffmpeg/mencode an .flv to .avi and the .avi audio is SoSo-Static it hurts
[06:52] <greezmunkey> In Ubuntu, where is the "best practices" place to put user scripts, user commands, etc. /usr/local/bin is empty.
[06:53] <Flannel> greezmunkey: /usr/local/* (bin files in bin) is the appropriate place, yes.
[06:53] <Jordan_U> q0_0p: You will get an error that the firmware is missing when you try to modprobe it, unless your card can use the reverse engeneered firmware in /lib/firmware/open
[06:53] <PRIDE> question to the room: how do i file a bug on launch pad?
[06:53] <user__> "/usr/local/bin is good, for custom and accessible to other users
[06:53] <kinja-sheep> greezmunkey: ~/bin for user scripts.
[06:53] <greezmunkey> Flannel, thanks, I'll try it.
[06:54] <prestonc> does anyone here know how to view your Ubuntu box on a Mac? I have a headless ubuntu server and I'm trying to get so I can pull up a view of it not using Remote X.
[06:54] <q0_0p> Jordan_U, my lspci -vvv is telling me that it is using b43-pci-bridge?
[06:54] <greezmunkey> kinja-sheep,  off of the users home directory, if I'm reading you correctly?
[06:54] <PRIDE> help?
[06:54] <user__> "/opt/program_folder/bin is good too, but you have to create links to the programs
[06:54] <q0_0p> Jordan_U, the kernel driver in use is b43-pci-bridge
[06:54] <bazhang> !bugs | PRIDE
[06:54] <kinja-sheep> greezmunkey: That is right. If the directory does not exist, create "~/bin"
[06:54] <PRIDE> bazhang thx
[06:55] <wahjava> Is there anyone who is also facing problems with installing Karmic over network ?
[06:55] <q0_0p> wats so good about karmic
[06:55] <kinja-sheep> !notes | q0_0p
[06:55] <user__> faster
[06:55] <wahjava> I've setup an apt-cacher mirror, and it worked fine in 8.04, 8.10, and 9.04.
[06:55] <q0_0p> how much faster
[06:55] <user__> and gui is better looking
[06:55] <q0_0p> ah
[06:56] <q0_0p> it looked the same to me
[06:56] <q0_0p> still looked like gnome
[06:56] <user__> compared to 9/04, i feel more responsive
[06:56] <q0_0p> ah
[06:56] <q0_0p> i c
[06:56] <kinja-sheep> q0_0p: It is more handsome.
[06:56] <greezmunkey> kinja-sheep, I get it. It works! I have to get used to user permissions all over again. I plan to build a test server this weekend, so this stuff is a dry run. Thanks!
[06:56] <Jordan_U> kinja-sheep: That actually more a list of what is broken with karmic :)
[06:56] <q0_0p> im using 8.10 O_O
[06:56] <user__> like going from win2000 to win98, it is faster
[06:56] <wahjava> and now this karmic is pissing me off..
[06:57] <greezmunkey> user__, hehe
[06:57] <kinja-sheep> greezmunkey: Great! It is easier and that's where I usually plop my scripts in. ;)
[06:57]  * greezmunkey runs a win2K box for his work laptop. Just lazy I guess!
[06:58] <greezmunkey> I actually used this Ubuntu box all day Sunday at work though, so things are looking up!
[06:58] <Jordan_U> q0_0p: 9.10 is actually one of the largest changes to the theme that Ubuntu has made, though that isn't saying much
[06:59] <q0_0p> Jordan_U, and speed?
[06:59] <q0_0p> Jordan_U, i noticed a little speed but that's probably because it was using ext4
[06:59] <NoTownKasper> zetheroo: Ok, I'm seriously getting annoyed now. Complete removal, reinstall, try to create the share, now I get -this- error..."Failed to execute child process "testparm" (No such file or directory)"
[06:59] <Jordan_U> q0_0p: Boots much faster, ext4 like you said. I'm not sure "generally"
[07:00] <q0_0p> i downgraded myself just to use backtrack 4 i dunno if that was a good idea
[07:00] <kinja-sheep> Jordan_U: I hate Dust theme in Karmic.  Thick fonts on Apps/Places/Sys/etc -- Had to make a custom theme. :\
[07:00] <q0_0p> anyone here use kde?
[07:01] <q0_0p> it's actually not that bad
[07:01] <q0_0p> of a look
[07:01] <Jordan_U> kinja-sheep: The default human theme is pretty nice though
[07:01] <q0_0p> i got tired of the gnome look
[07:01] <Ciros> okay, so I just made my router log to rsyslog.d  but instead o fht elog info going to just the .log I made for it, it is going there, and to messages, syslog, and user.log    Does anyone know how to make it so that it will only goto te one I made?
[07:01] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  Would someone be able to help me?  I'm trying to setup my first postgresql db.  I used createdb but all I get is an authentication error. :(
[07:01] <kinja-sheep> Jordan_U: That's true. I like it very much too.
[07:02] <Jordan_U> q0_0p: Try gnome-shell, it's still far from ready ( and doesn't change the gtk theme ) but it looks great and has some nice new ideas about how to work with windows, workspaces, and applications
[07:03] <q0_0p> Jordan_U, hmm i'll give that a look
[07:03] <user__> i prefer kde over gnome ever since, but sometimes i like gnome more if i tried it after a long time.
[07:03] <Jordan_U> q0_0p: Or of course try KDE4 or another desktop environment if you don't like the look of Gnome
[07:03] <q0_0p> i like kde 3.5 for some reason
[07:03] <q0_0p> i never liked kde4
[07:04] <q0_0p> gnome-shell looks cool
[07:04] <TheWeirdHacker> Hello, I'm trying to hack and practice reading everything about my research but, I can't find out why my IRC Hack.EXE is a Reason: The system cannot find the file specified. / Error creating process. Even though you can't edit the program at all though
[07:04] <fizk_> hey guys,  I have no sound in Karmic !!
[07:04] <fizk_> no sound devices at all
[07:05] <kishore> Hi ll
[07:05] <zetheroo> NoTownKasper: don't let it get you upset ... its not worth it :)  maybe just revert back to Jaunty if you don't want to reinstall Karmic ....
[07:05] <kishore> all
[07:05] <jumentous> hey all quick question how do i echo a script that i want to save to file eg. echo -e "#!/bin/bash echo "hello\n" > test.sh
[07:05] <jumentous> the #! is being interpretted by echo
[07:05] <Jordan_U> TheWeirdHacker: Is english your first language?
[07:05] <NoTownKasper> Looks like I have no choice...hooray for things not working. :\
[07:06] <user__> throw your box out of the window
[07:06] <kishore> Can U Tell me how to enqueue songs in banshee player
[07:06] <q0_0p> anyone here tried gnome-shell?
[07:06] <wahjava> I'm not able to install from this preseed file http://pastebin.ca/1664536 . which used to work great with 8.04, 8.10, and 9.04.
[07:07] <wahjava> I get unauthenticated packages error.
[07:07]  * DanaG hates gnome-shell.
[07:08] <wahjava> DanaG, GNOME has to do something equivalent of KDE4, and Gnome Shell is that...:P
[07:08] <DanaG> KDE4 is better than Gnome-Shell, even.
[07:08] <DanaG> At least KDE4 doesn't get rid of the taskbar.
[07:08] <lopez_> I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.1 but the installation gave some error messages. How can I repare or reinstall?
[07:08] <q0_0p> kde4 is not better than gnome
[07:08] <wahjava> anyone also experience these issues..?
[07:09] <q0_0p> kde4 uses too much memory
[07:09] <wgrant> DanaG: Why are you so attached to the taskbar?
[07:09] <NoTownKasper> Well, thanks for trying, everyone who put their 2 cents in...looks like 9.10 is just too buggy for my needs. :\
[07:09] <wgrant> q0_0p: Let's not get into a GNOME vs KDE war, please.
[07:09] <DanaG> I also refuse to give up Compiz.
[07:09] <rsv> which ftp server i need to install in ubuntu 9.0.4
[07:09] <DanaG> I'm specifically bashing gnome THREE, not gnome.
[07:09] <lstarnes> q0_0p: memory use is just one factor
[07:09] <kishore> How to enqueue songs in Banshee player
[07:09] <sara11> how to make my ubuntu system to iso with all my programs and siting and date to install to another computer ?
[07:09] <Gorillaz> how can I log the errors when I use the "make" command
[07:09] <mneptok> q0_0p: i'll one=up wgrant and say "we will not get into a KDE vs GNOME flamewar. thanks."
[07:10] <q0_0p> sorry
[07:10] <q0_0p> didn't mean to make a war
[07:10] <Lint> kishore, try drag-n-drop
[07:10] <kishore> it's going aside when i'm dragging
[07:10] <sara11> how to make my ubuntu system to iso with all my programs and siting and date to install to another computer ?
[07:11] <sara11> how to make my ubuntu system to iso with all my programs and siting and date to install to another computer ?   plz
[07:11] <kishore> Lint i,ve tried that one also it's not coming we can't enqueu in banshee player
[07:11] <Tommi> Hello
[07:12] <Tommi> Does anyone have a good reference for Ubuntu server adminstration?
[07:12] <Tommi> I.e., a book I could buy?
[07:12] <sara11> hollo
[07:12] <sara11> how to make my ubuntu system to iso with all my programs and siting and date to install to another computer ?   plz
[07:12] <Tommi> I'd like to install ubuntu for my next server, but want a nice book ideally which covers security, etc
[07:12] <Lint> kishore, are you dragging into 'Filesystem queue'?
[07:12] <Tommi> but security is the main thing
[07:12] <wgrant> Tommi: There's the Official Ubuntu Server Book
[07:12] <indus> !book
[07:13] <Tommi> Ah
[07:13] <Tommi> I'll google
[07:13] <Tommi> it is on amazon, i hope?
[07:13] <wgrant> I believe so.
[07:13] <Tommi> perfect.
[07:13] <indus> Tommi: i found 1
[07:13] <kishore> mean
[07:13] <Tommi> I'll order it now, then
[07:13] <greezmunkey> Yikes! I cracked my wireless...I'm even using MAC filtering :(
[07:13] <sara11> how to make my ubuntu system to iso with all my programs and siting and data to install to another computer ?   plz
[07:13] <indus> Tommi: http://www.apress.com/book/view/1590599233
[07:13] <wgrant> greezmunkey: MAC filtering takes all of a second to get around.
[07:13] <wgrant> !repeat | sara11
[07:13] <Tommi> perfect
[07:14] <Tommi> you guys win!:)
[07:14] <greezmunkey> wgrant, yes, but with WPA2 even!
[07:14] <barna>  /join #cention pastebin
[07:14] <porter1> sara11, yuo mean have the programs you need on the ISo already?
[07:14] <kishore> yaa it's dragging in that one only
[07:14] <indus> Tommi: of course ebooks aare also freely available
[07:15] <Tommi> I'd rather have a book copy for this sort of thing, hehe
[07:15] <Tommi> This is something you want to read and understand thoroughly
[07:15] <Tommi> e-books somehow don't work for me in this way
[07:15] <Tommi> hate reading stuff on computers
[07:16] <indus> Tommi: true, i hate them too
[07:16] <indus> Tommi: nothing beats a book
[07:16] <kishore> but from one album to other album i am not getting queued the song now playing was stopped and queued song was started
[07:16] <rd1381> is there a portable menu for ubuntu  like pstart for windows?
[07:16] <greezmunkey> wgrant, I have a sonicwall with a few licenses on it. I think I'll encrypt it all from now on. Someone may crack my wireless, but they'll have to have the VPN to get through...
[07:16] <rd1381> http://www.pegtop.de/start/
[07:17] <indus> Tommi: is on amazon
[07:17] <Tommi> yeah, just comparing the different books
[07:17] <indus> Tommi: official, even though its not necessary that official is better always, we know that
[07:17] <kishore> and in file system when i'm entering the song it's showing wrong mark
[07:17] <Tommi> Yeah, i'll probably get official
[07:17] <Tommi> Even if it is slightly imperfect, between it and web docs i can learn what i need to
[07:18] <indus> Tommi: good luck
[07:18] <Tommi> ty
[07:18] <Tommi> want to run a web server here from my office
[07:18] <greezmunkey> wgrant, now to locate the ability to run a VPN from this thing...
[07:18] <Tommi> w/o getting destroyed by hackers^^
[07:18] <sara11> porter1 no i mean to make my system to iso so wen i install again all my programs already there
[07:19] <guilherme> #ubuntu-br
[07:19] <Guest66925> speak spanish or Portuguese?
[07:21] <Jordan_U> Guest66925: /join #ubuntu-br
[07:21] <FIreSoul> !gnome
[07:21] <FIreSoul> how to remove all the kdebase ?
[07:23] <FIreSoul> any one
[07:23] <FIreSoul> how to remove all the kde apps
[07:23] <FIreSoul> ?
[07:23] <rlo> Hi, is there a way to disable the password request when Gnome starts up, yet keep the password on the account for "sudo" use?
[07:24] <sifo> hi all :D
[07:24] <sifo> aks! how to use empathy?
[07:24] <FIreSoul> !puregnome
[07:24] <sifo> ask! :d
[07:25] <rd1381> is there any portable menu for linux?
[07:26] <fredyf> hola
[07:26] <denisk> rd1381: portable menu? you mean menu's you can pin onto the desktop?
[07:26] <sifo> my empathy not responding
[07:26] <rd1381> denisk: like this on windows : pstart http://www.pegtop.de/start/
[07:27] <rd1381> denisk:: its portable and i can customize it so i have a program files i can share between windows
[07:27] <rd1381> denisk: does linux have one?
[07:28] <denisk> dont really get what its supposed to do, one second ;)
[07:28] <rd1381> denisk: i need one so i can creat a menu for my NOT installed and portable apps in linux
[07:29] <rd1381> denisk:say you have many apps that are binary and just run in linux , i wanna have a seperate menu for them so that i can run it in many linuxes
[07:29] <denisk> oh then i have no idea, sorry. I'm not that great with linux yet, only been a month :)
[07:30] <FLeiXiuS> What happened to libapache2-mod-auth-pam in karmic?
[07:30] <rd1381> ty
[07:31] <secret901> how do I log in the Karmic Koala liveCD?
[07:31] <indus> secret901: just wait and it will autologin
[07:31] <secret901> indus: I've been waiting for 5 minutes
[07:31] <indus> secret901: or type ubuntu in userename
[07:32] <secret901> indus: password?
[07:32] <indus> secret901: none
[07:32] <secret901> doesn't work
[07:32] <indus> secret901: leave it
[07:32] <FLeiXiuS> When I see Package XXXXis not available, but is referred to by another package.  How do I find out which package its referred too
[07:32] <secret901> indus: I can't login with username: ubuntu, password: none
[07:33] <indus> secret901: 1 min
[07:33] <indus> secret901: reboot and just wait again
[07:33] <rd1381> denisk: yeah?
[07:34] <secret901> indus: ok
[07:35] <pshr_> !font
[07:36] <indus> secret901: its a bug actually
[07:36] <indus> secret901: stupid really
[07:36] <greezmunkey> sifo, empathy is stalled?
[07:36] <secret901> indus: what sort of bug?
[07:36] <indus> secret901: if it doesnt autologin, burn a new cd
[07:36] <indus> secret901: cd installer bug i suppose
[07:37] <denisk> rd: there should be a way, there is SSH. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[07:37] <secret901> indus: what's wrong with the CD? this CD worked on other computers before
[07:37] <indus> secret901: username ubuntu and password blank generally works
[07:38] <greezmunkey> Anyone here played with vpnc?
[07:38] <denisk> rd: hope that helps, sort of. Sorry, im pretty much useless other than for searching haha.
[07:39] <greezmunkey> !vpnc
[07:39] <sabat> how can I make a macro that clicks the mouse in x once every second
[07:39] <sabat> what app would you suggest I look into at least
[07:40] <secret901> !lynx
[07:40] <sabat> I'm using a spreadsheet program, with a specialized macro but it keeps asking for confirmations, I need to make a macro that clicks the mouse every 1 second or so.
[07:40] <sabat> just to keep it going
[07:40] <porter1> sabat, you could try xmacro
[07:40] <sabat> porter1, ty, I'm going to look into that now
[07:40] <indus> secret901: so did you try again?
[07:41] <secret901> indus: it's restarting...it's taking longer than I normally expecvt to load up
[07:41] <aperson> is there a way to configure my thumb buttons on my mouse so they *don't* go back and forward?
[07:41] <sabat> porter1, do you have any suggestions beyond that on making a macro that just sends a mouseclick every 1 second?
[07:41] <sabat> using that app or not
[07:42] <porter1> sabat, not sure. I would also suggest maybe writing a python script to do whatever you want
[07:42] <sabat> basically, I want to hit a keycombination, then hit another or the same one to turn it off
[07:42] <porter1> I used to do that in windows with python.
[07:42] <secret901> indus: and it's getting some I/O error
[07:42] <indus> secret901: cd is bad then
[07:42] <indus> secret901: use another
[07:42] <indus> secret901: burn slower speed
[07:42] <sabat> I use a logitech g-15 keyboard, and I have a g-15 macro in windows that does the same thing
[07:42] <secret901> indus: I used this CD to install Koala on another computer before
[07:43] <sabat> but I want to implement this in linux so I don't have to switch everytime I need it :D
[07:43] <indus> secret901: but i/o error is different from the login error
[07:43] <secret901> indus: I/O error but it still loads the login screen
[07:43] <indus> secret901: hmm then reboot should do thetrick, username ubuntu , press enter and leave it
[07:44] <PRIDE> is there  a way to revert login to the likes of 8.10? where u have to type in user name as well as password instead of the account name sitting under options. I just think my computer would be more secure if that was the case
[07:45] <PRIDE> anyone?
[07:45] <Ronald|Work> Yesterday I installed karmic server in a VM. I took the .vdi file to another machine and made a VM using the .vdi, and now I seem to have no network interface configured?
[07:46] <secret901> indus: same problem as before
[07:46] <porter1> PRIDE,changing the gdm theme might work
[07:46] <indus> secret901: try safe graphics mode
[07:46] <PRIDE> porter1, how would i get around to doing that?
[07:46] <secret901> indus: strange...maybe Karmic Koala doesn't support this laptop
[07:46] <secret901> indus: how?
[07:46] <kostkon> PRIDE, i don't think you can
[07:46] <porter1> kostcon, of course you can :)
[07:46] <indus> secret901: in boot menu, choose ';boot in safe graphics mode'
[07:47] <kostkon> porter1, not with the new gdm on 9.10
[07:47] <crohakon> Is it possible to set a static IP while using a wireless connection?
[07:47] <Flannel> PRIDE: That's just a theme, you should be able to disable it with the steps here: http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/09/hack-karmics-gdm-login-screen.html (choose a theme without a face browser)
[07:47] <secret901> indus: one other thing, I have to manually turn off the laptop because Ubuntu won't do it
[07:47] <Shtirlic> ìîæåò ýòî äåâóøêà?
[07:47] <indus> secret901: yeah
[07:48] <PRIDE> flannel, porter1, kostkon, ty
[07:48] <Ronald|Work> I found something about changed MAC adres being the cause when older ubuntu server versions are migrated to another Virtualbox VM -- how to fix :)?
[07:50] <SpiceMan> Ronald|Work: you can set the Guest OS MAC address on VM
[07:50] <SpiceMan> VirtualBox, I mean
[07:50] <Ronald|Work> SpiceMan, i dont know the original mac, as its 100 miles away
[07:50] <Ronald|Work> there hsould be a way to make it reconfigure all?
[07:51] <greezmunkey> Ronald|Work, a previous post referred to something called mac changer...
[07:51] <Ronald|Work> other then a fresh install ;)
[07:51] <Flannel> PRIDE: actually, it appears to remove the face brower thing, you just have to fiddle around in gconf, http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/09/hack-karmics-gdm-login-screen.html?showComment=1255584122058#c3361549451992456071  I haven't verified this though, as I'm not on karmic.
[07:51] <SpiceMan> a fresh install won't change the MAC address of the virtual machine. only changing the virtual machine configuration will
[07:51] <Ronald|Work> Well
[07:52] <Ronald|Work> i don't KNOW the mac i installed this on
[07:52] <Ronald|Work> so changing it is not a solution
[07:52] <greezmunkey> agreed
[07:52] <SpiceMan> Ronald|Work: if you don't know what MAC address you need, you can fix it to that. it just really simple.
[07:52] <SpiceMan> *it's
[07:52] <Ronald|Work> how :D?
[07:52] <PRIDE> Flannel, any information helps, i'm fiddleing around on karmic...just not as proficient as any of yall....once i figure out how to do everything i want done i'm going to reformate my computer and apply what i have learned
[07:53] <SpiceMan> Ronald|Work: You don't know -> You can't
[07:53] <SpiceMan> *that* is simple
[07:53] <indus> secret901: hi
[07:53] <Ronald|Work> it is as simple as rediculous? what if I change a card on a physical machine?
[07:53] <SpiceMan> so make someone send you the XML or something
[07:53] <indus> secret901: so no luck?
[07:53] <secret901> indus: still loading up
[07:54] <SpiceMan> Ronald|Work: the virtual machine is not aware of the host os
[07:54] <Ronald|Work> yeah
[07:54] <Ronald|Work> so why would the NIC change be an issue
[07:55] <Ronald|Work> i just dumped the harddisk on another virtual machine
[07:55] <SpiceMan> Ronald|Work: it's not, you just created a new VM and added the image, right?
[07:55] <Ronald|Work> what if i dumped a physical hardisk in another physical machine
[07:55] <Ronald|Work> no network?
[07:55] <q0_0p> anyone know y i can't iwlist wlan0 scan?
[07:56]  * SpiceMan gives up
[07:56] <Ronald|Work> SpiceMan, exactly, so why would the new virtual nic be an issue?
[07:56] <q0_0p> i've modprobe -r b43; modprobe b43; ifconfig wlan0 up
[07:56] <Ronald|Work> "it just doesn't" is worse then windows
[07:57] <SpiceMan> Ronald|Work: I don't know. you said the mac was the issue, I pointed out that the MAC would be different on a different VM (unless you explicitly set it, which you didn't)
[07:57] <Ronald|Work> SpiceMan, no thats what i found googling, back to dapper
[07:58] <greezmunkey> Spiceman, Ronald|Work, for giggles, what resources do you think would be necessary to run server 2003 enterprise in a VM on top of ubuntu? (just asking)
[07:58] <Ronald|Work> and i quite frankly think its a pretty damn major ugly bug if the only solution is keep the MAC
[07:58] <greezmunkey> memory and stuff...
[07:58] <Ronald|Work> greezmunkey, i have no experience with server 2k3
[07:59] <secret901> indus: it logged in with the graphic safe version
[08:00] <indus> secret901: :) nice
[08:00] <Jordan_U> Ronald|Work: You probably just need to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[08:00] <indus> secret901: so you can install it now
[08:00] <indus> secret901: ok iam off to lunch
[08:00] <secret901> indus: I'm just checking to see if it work on this laptop
[08:00] <greezmunkey> Ronald|Work, I was pondering, that's all. I have a server with 2GB ram, and a Xeon processor to play with soon.
[08:00] <klong> heya .. should vmware server run in karmic yet? what are they calling vmware nowadays?
[08:01] <Ronald|Work> greezmunkey, depends what else you do with host
[08:01] <inivex> vmware....
[08:01] <vlt> Hello. For image organizing I found the tool F-Spot. Looks nice so far. When I want to change the icon of a tag, sometimes I _can_ browse through all images already using that tag, sometimes not. I haven't found out when. Any idea?
[08:01] <greezmunkey> klong, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server
[08:02] <James__> what do i do with a tar.gz once it's unzipped?
[08:02] <Jordan_U> Ronald|Work: And there is no way that the only solution is to keep the same mac address, if the mac address even has anything to do with it
[08:02] <Ronald|Work> Jordan_U, but you gave me the idea.... silyl device is eth2.... that explains why the mac solution works...
[08:02] <greezmunkey> Ronald|Work, agreed. Maybe all I do is run VMware!
[08:03] <greezmunkey> Ronald|Work, It would be a good learning experience anyway...
[08:03] <Ronald|Work> greezmunkey, i mostly use virtualbox, seems to perform better then vmware desktop products... however the biggest issue is when you saturate IO and high memory usage
[08:04] <greezmunkey> Ronald|Work, virtualbox...I'll check it out, thanks!
[08:04] <metelci> Hi, I have just installed Ubuntu 9.10; however, system>administration>hardware drivers application and Applications>Ubuntu Software Center does not start.
[08:05] <jimjen> how do u get the video setting to change in alien arena
[08:05] <metelci> So, I have installed my nvidia graphics card driver manually.
[08:05] <jimjen> everytime i try to change the settings it closes
[08:06] <otoady> Working with Realtek rtl8187L driver by realtek.  Get two errors on make: 1. for unused variable 'flags'
[08:06] <otoady> 2. for no member named 'hard_start_xmit' in 'struct net_device'
[08:06] <otoady> This is the driver from the realtek website.
[08:06] <otoady> Is it safe to make install this driver despite these errors ?
[08:06] <FloodBot1> otoady: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:06] <Ruge> hi folks
[08:06] <Ruge> is there any reason why there are times I can and cannot access my devices such as USB keys and/or CD/DVD drives?
[08:06] <Ruge> :D
[08:06] <vsMS> Hi. Can someone tell me how to disable wlan in MetworkManager? I won't allow Users to create wlan connections
[08:06] <jony123> what network manger does ubuntu 9.04 use as default..(stright install nothing changed)
[08:06] <wrchiu> hi everyone
[08:07] <Ronald|Work> greezmunkey, however i use windows 7 as host ;) so no warrentees when you use ubuntu as host
[08:07] <jimjen> hey how come when i click on apply changes in alien arena it just closes
[08:07] <wrchiu> 能
[08:07] <smwn>  能?
[08:08] <greezmunkey> Ronald|Work, Is that virtualbox, or VMware?
[08:08] <Ronald|Work> virtualbox
[08:08] <aperson> is there a way to configure my thumb buttons on my mouse so they *don't* go back and forward?
[08:08] <greezmunkey> Ronald|Work, ok :)
[08:08] <wrchiu> ubuntu10.04现在可以升级了嘛？
[08:08] <Ronald|Work> used vmware server and player, virtualbox just seems 'lighter'
[08:08] <Ronald|Work> oh workstation as well
[08:08] <metelci> Hi, I have just installed Ubuntu 9.10; however, system>administration>hardware drivers application and Applications>Ubuntu Software Center does not start. What should I do?
[08:08] <James__> how do you use sudo?
[08:09] <lstarnes> !sudo | James__
[08:09] <mka> James__: sudo command
[08:09] <smwn> sudo apt get peanuts
[08:09] <James__> ah, got it
[08:09] <James__> for some reason i thought i needed to get into sudo, before doing the action
[08:09] <James__> thank you :)
[08:10] <greezmunkey> sudo -i will accomplish that
[08:10] <mka> James__: no
[08:10] <mka> James__: ok
[08:10] <James__> christ xbuntu is so damn fast..
[08:10] <greezmunkey> type exit to get back to your user prompt
[08:12] <joshuajones> good day everyone!
[08:13] <joshuajones> i am in need of some assistance if any of you do not mind!
[08:13] <otoady> me 2
[08:13] <DryGrain> state your question clearly and consicesly
[08:13] <DryGrain> concisely
[08:13] <DryGrain> u 2
[08:13] <greezmunkey> heh
[08:13] <joshuajones> i just did a fresh install of 9.10 have all of my updates etc on an acer aspire one AOA150 ZG5 model
[08:13] <dczammit> does ubuntu work in vmware fusion for mac?
[08:14] <DryGrain> joshuajones, i have the same netbook :)
[08:14] <suave> .
[08:14] <suave> Hello
[08:14] <joshuajones> i am trying to share my existing ethernet connection through the same internal atheros wifi card
[08:14] <joshuajones> i have followed the ubuntugeek guide
[08:15] <joshuajones> to enable using terminal commands instead of just getting firestarter, as i never had much luck using firestarter in the karmic beta attempting the same thing
[08:15] <joshuajones> anyhow, finished all those steps and had stumbled across this guide http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-an-adhoc-host-with-ubuntu.html to set up the adhoc
[08:16] <Mosta> hii
[08:16] <joshuajones> i am not running network manager that i am aware of i have installed knetwork manager through software center, still using default gnome netbook launcher desktop etc
[08:16] <qubuntu> hi
[08:16] <joshuajones> i attempted to create the wifi adhoc network then my icon disappeared near my notifier at the top of the screen?
[08:16] <greezmunkey> dczammit, check this: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/118935
[08:17] <otoady> is it safe ?
[08:17] <greezmunkey> dczammit, looks pretty good
[08:17] <wjlafrance> Hey guys, I've got a situation. On a LiveCD I meant to reformat my external HD as ext4, but I accidentally nuked my Windows partition instead. Anyone know of software to recover an entire partition? :P
[08:17] <wjlafrance> Or just the files would still be amazing.
[08:17] <qubuntu> i was woundering why i cant change the statrup sound (drums) in ubuntu 9.1
[08:18] <smwn> Active@ Partition recovery
[08:18] <joshuajones> ?
[08:18] <Jordan_U> wjlafrance: You can try testdisk
[08:18] <wjlafrance> smwn: Does that run on Linux?
[08:18] <smwn> not sure
[08:19] <wjlafrance> Jordan_U: I checked that out but it only detected the ext4 from what I found. Any guides?
[08:19] <Jordan_U> joshuajones: http://magazine.redhat.com/2008/10/16/video-fedora-10-connection-sharing/
[08:19] <smwn> I know it runs in dos
[08:19] <Jordan_U> wjlafrance: Did you try the deep search?
[08:19] <smwn> so you could make a boot cd to run it
[08:20] <Jordan_U> joshuajones: Netbook remix uses network manager by default
[08:20] <wjlafrance> Jordan_U: I'll try
[08:20] <wjlafrance> smwn: I've only got one CD drive in this box, and I'm running on a live CD, so I can't burn atm. :(
[08:20] <dczammit> anyone know of a good irc server for mac osx support
[08:20] <joshuajones> yes well when i clicked create to create the adhoc network my manager icon disappeared from the top panel?
[08:20] <greezmunkey> joshuajones, check this, it works! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[08:20] <joshuajones> bug maybe? etc?
[08:20] <dczammit> im a linux man, but i needed to switch to mac for other reasons
[08:21] <a-rishi> I have just installed Karmic, What is the safest and *sure-shot* way to get flash on firefox??
[08:21] <wjlafrance> dczammit: I'm sure there's a channel on Freenode. Freenode has everything.
[08:21] <MenZa> a-rishi: Are you on 32-bit or 64-bit?
[08:21] <a-rishi> 32-bit
[08:21] <gnubie> a-rishi;   64 bit?
[08:22] <DigitalKiwi> wjlafrance: except for the softwares that are on oftc ;p
[08:22] <MenZa> a-rishi: Applications → Ubuntu Software Centre - search for 'Flash' :)
[08:22] <a-rishi> I am on 32-bit
[08:22] <a-rishi> okay. Thanks.
[08:22] <joshuajones> a-rishi : that or click on "install missing plugins" button when you try to access a page that uses flash
[08:22] <wjlafrance> Apparently there's a firefox plugin to make youtube just use HTML5 tags with an MP4 stream. :)
[08:23] <a-rishi> wjlafrance: That will be great
[08:23] <DigitalKiwi> wjlafrance: :o
[08:23] <wjlafrance> Not to mention 1000% easier to download. :P
[08:23] <marek_> ll
[08:24] <wjlafrance> I'm gonna go get a sandwich while deep search runs. Good luck, poor HD.
[08:24] <marek_> Czec
[08:25] <knoxville> What command is the same as ipconfig /all in windows?
[08:25] <joshuajones> anyone know anything about the bug i'm experiencing with network manager in top panel disappearing after clicking create when creating adhoc wifi network?
[08:25] <a-rishi> Alright, another thing: I am using empathy for IRC, how can I disable the '[some-user] has connecteced' or '[some-user]' has disconnected. There are too many of them coming :P
[08:25] <dczammit> knoxville: ifconfig -a
[08:26] <Madpilot> Argh. Anyone else here use LVM at all? I need to switch to the (mounted) LVM partition in terminal, and haven't a clue how to proceed
[08:26] <Madpilot> this is from a LiveCD session, fwiw
[08:26] <Jordan_U> a-rishi: I am sure there is a way to disable it, but for other reasons IRC just doesn't work well with anything but a dedication IRC client
[08:26] <klong> Madpilot, like.. with the command chroot ?
[08:27] <DigitalKiwi> irssi ftw
[08:27] <Jordan_U> a-rishi: Try xchat if you use IRC a lot, or for more feature rich clients try quassel or irssi
[08:27] <joshuajones> HELLO?
[08:27] <joshuajones> :(
[08:27] <klong> xchat ftw
[08:27] <a-rishi> Jordan_U: Ya, I will try those too
[08:27] <dczammit> Madpilot: i had to change my root partition from the livecd to an existing install and fix the grub bootloader, theres a few tricks you need in the command line
[08:27] <a-rishi> I like the themes on empathy :(
[08:28] <DigitalKiwi> xchat uses gui and is thus fail since you can't run it in screen !
[08:28] <joshuajones> Networkmanager bug closing itself out after clicking on create network in 9.10 final release FTW?
[08:28] <a-rishi> MenZa: Thanks, youtube is working flawlessly
[08:28] <MenZa> a-rishi: welcome :)
[08:28] <Jordan_U> Madpilot: If it's mounted then just run "mount" to find where it is mounted and cd to that directory
[08:29] <Vortex> Hello any expert with DUKPT encryption/decryption ? i am looking for experimented people only , i pay alot of $ .
[08:29] <joshuajones> would someone kindly assist me please?
[08:29] <Madpilot> Jordan_U, thanks
[08:29] <Jordan_U> Vortex: Maybe you should pay Canonical for support
[08:29] <DigitalKiwi> experimented people...>.> I do think you mean experienced
[08:29] <Madpilot> was thinking I was making it too complex for myself :)
[08:29] <Jordan_U> Madpilot: np
[08:29] <boomer84> guys, has a solution been found to the "Ubuntu one not connecting" bug? I have been checking around but cant seem to find a solution. I am running Karmic and have connected sometimes but not often.
[08:29] <wjlafrance> Vortex, I've experimented with many things and people.
[08:30] <dczammit> DigitalKiwi: no he means humans who have been experimented on
[08:30] <DigitalKiwi> XD
[08:30] <Mosta> guyz
[08:30] <Mosta> r u all using linux
[08:30] <DigitalKiwi> I once did a test study for some medicine, does that count?
[08:30] <Mosta> ?
[08:30] <wjlafrance> Mosta: sup dood
[08:30] <DigitalKiwi> Mosta: no, we all use windows
[08:30] <jacquesdupontd> hey anybody here ? hi DigitalKiwi i'm bored about all this sh.t for usb bootable disk pen or hdd it's really boring and bad made
[08:30] <Mosta> sup dood :)
[08:31] <wjlafrance> DigitalKiwi: I'm using OSX. :)
[08:31] <Mosta> i see
[08:31] <dczammit> im using osx too
[08:31] <Mosta> i thought this is for linux users LOL
[08:31] <DigitalKiwi> jacquesdupontd: that link you sent doesn't work?
[08:31] <Madpilot> Jordan_U, further stupid question, would I want the /dev/ string or the /media/ string in my cd command? Being hypercautious here...
[08:31] <wobbs> we can pay Canonical ? where do we send the cheque ?
[08:31] <dczammit> wjlafrance: can you recommend a good cd burning software for osx? i want audio cd support
[08:31] <Jordan_U> Madpilot: /media
[08:32] <Jordan_U> Vortex: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/services
[08:32] <wjlafrance> dczammit: I was actually joking. It's a half truth though, as the computer next to me is a g3 imac running tiger. But no idea.
[08:32] <_marix> hmm, is wpa/wpa2 possible in karmic?
[08:32] <MenZa> wobbs: If you want to donate to anything, do so to the Shuttleworth Foundation instead. :)
[08:32] <dczammit> bum
[08:32] <daemonza> Yes marix
[08:32] <wjlafrance> Or the buy a poor programming student a laptop that'll charge fund. That's me.
[08:32] <dczammit> _marix: i believe it is built in
[08:33] <nicle> Mosta: I am using linux in work, and using win at home
[08:33] <Jordan_U> wobbs: You can buy things at the Ubuntu store
[08:33] <DigitalKiwi> buy me lua programming gems
[08:33] <Mosta> me too
[08:33] <dczammit> if Protools ran on linux, i wouldnt have bought a mac
[08:33] <Mosta> am at work now and using linux
[08:33] <Mosta> which distrub. ?
[08:34] <wobbs> its just the bestest OS eh
[08:34] <wjlafrance> Windows should never be abbreviated as win.
[08:34] <nicle> Mosta: ubuntu Karmic
[08:34] <cybersplice> !ot :P
[08:34] <Mosta> cool here too
[08:34] <Mosta> :)
[08:34] <wjlafrance> I was using lucid until I ran out of hard drive space. :P
[08:34]  * cybersplice facepalm.
[08:34] <wjlafrance> ubottu: cool story bro.
[08:34] <jacquesdupontd> DigitalKiwi, yesterday i finally managed to install xubuntu on the usb pen 4gb drive but as a real install not as a usb live key and do you know what ? errors all the time and it was really slow, but even slower than in usb live key, shouldn't be as it doens't have to extract all files from the live cd anyway gonna try again with lubuntu, btw do you have a direct link to download it, cause with usenetbootin when i start on my
[08:34] <jacquesdupontd>  usb hdd it tells me no kernel found if i do it with the xubuntu iso it works perfectly so i don't see the difference between lubuntu and xubuntu lubuntu should have a kernel as well no ?
[08:35] <Mosta> but any 1 knows how to share file in linux and see it on windows
[08:35] <Mosta> ?
[08:35] <joshuajones> Mosta : search for Samba
[08:35] <SunilThaha> Mosta, samba
[08:35] <wzssyqa> how to mount a ntfs with others can read,use gnome-mount
[08:35] <SunilThaha> :)
[08:35] <a-rishi> Mosta: Ubuntu one
[08:35] <Michalxo> Hello! Anyone able to help me? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/429249
[08:35] <machrider> upgrading a server from jaunty to karmic, it wants to remove mysql 5.0 and install mysql 5.1 (not a normal 'upgrade').  should i be worried about my data?
[08:35] <cybersplice> jacquesdupontd: It will be slow, it's expecting something as fast as a hard disk and is getting something as slow as a USB pendrive.
[08:35] <Mosta> mmmm !!
[08:35] <Mosta> i c
[08:35] <dczammit> jacquesdupontd: what is the benefit of a usb bootable ubuntu?  why not just make a livecd usb stick that you can run on any machine
[08:35] <knoxville> How do I find my DNS Servers through ifconfig?
[08:35] <Mosta> another Q?
[08:35] <joshuajones> dczammit : they do,  its called Ardour and Jokosher and LMMS my friend :D
[08:36] <Mosta> how i can connect with sharing printer
[08:36] <Mosta> ?
[08:36] <banza1> !nick
[08:36] <dczammit> joshuajones: no dude, i actually need to open .ptf files from the studio
[08:36] <nicle> Mosta: system->administration->Printer
[08:36] <joshuajones> i believe ardour reads .ptf files
[08:36] <nicle> sorry, system->administration->Printing
[08:36] <Mosta> cool
[08:36] <icedwater> Hello, I'm trying to partition my HDD so I can install Ubuntu on a small part of it. But gparted doesn't want to recognise my partitions, what can I do?
[08:36] <joshuajones> if not, there is a way to convert them i wouldn't doubt.
[08:36] <Mosta> am there
[08:36] <joshuajones> :)
[08:37] <wjlafrance> dczammit: People at my school use ubuntu on an external drive, since all the workstations are the exact same hardware. It's like a laptop, only smaller and more powerful, sometimes.
[08:37] <Michalxo> Hello! Anyone able to help me? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/429249
[08:37] <dczammit> joshuajones: i seriously doubt that
[08:37] <om26er> i read gnome 3 delayed. this is great for lucid i think
[08:37] <joshuajones> dczammit : google, google
[08:37] <greezmunkey> OMG, remote desktop...who knew!
[08:37] <joshuajones> :]
[08:37] <Silent_Echo> wjlafrance, how would one go around putting ubuntu on an external?
[08:37] <FLeiXiuS> Any graphic designers live and well?
[08:37] <wjlafrance> Silent_Echo, same way one would put ubuntu on an internal, i'd imagine.
[08:38] <Mosta> there is field with smb:
[08:38] <syn-ack> joshuajones, Don't get me started on google right now... I'm banging my head on my desk waiting for them to enable my email domain. :P
[08:38] <dczammit> joshuajones: i wrote a kernel module for one of digidesigns expensive sound cards for linux :) im pretty sure protools files cant be read in ardour
[08:38] <joshuajones> anyone know how to restore regular gnome desktop and background right click on karmic final
[08:38] <icedwater> Palimpsest does see all the partitions I have, though :(
[08:38] <Silent_Echo> wjlafrance, i used a live cd and reformatted my computer
[08:38] <wjlafrance> Silent_Echo: Most modern BIOS will pretend that a USB drive is an internal HD, until the operating system acknowledges to the BIOS that it knows the difference
[08:38] <nicle> Mosta: yes?
[08:38] <Mosta> should i type IP ?
[08:38] <joshuajones> instead of this horrible netbook launcher?
[08:38] <joshuajones> lol
[08:39] <Silent_Echo> wjlafrance, so i just hook it up and....pop the live cd in...then lost
[08:39] <nicle> Mosta: yes, such like this: smb://192.168.0.1/
[08:39] <joshuajones> i've tried removing the check from the box next to it on start up, and rebooted and its back
[08:39] <joshuajones> ?
[08:39] <knoxville> How do I display dns in terminal?
[08:39] <wjlafrance> Silent_Echo: For example on this machine my internal HD is /dev/sda and my external is /dev/sdb
[08:39] <Michalxo> Anyone able to help me? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/429249 ?
[08:39] <wjlafrance> Silent_Echo: So if I wanted it installed on my external, I'd select /dev/sdb in the installer
[08:39] <nicle> Mosta: then click the browse button
[08:39] <virtuald> knoxville: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[08:40] <AdvoWork> is there a way to do ls but count the entries too?
[08:40] <joshuajones> guess i'm left to google myself
[08:40] <krevitz> hey guys
[08:40] <mike99> Silent_Echo, plug in USB stick boot UBUNTU CD Install the distro on the USB stick and then boot again with the UBUNTU CD and go under live and then mount the USB stick and modify the grub config and voila you have a bootable Ubuntu distro on a usb stick
[08:40] <joshuajones> but yeah, dczammit, that sounds like that would have been an amazing project and piece of hardware to work on creating
[08:40] <Silent_Echo> wjlafrance, mmm yup understood none of that....thanks anyways...i'll try to find it on youtube
[08:40] <JohnnyLollipop> anybody know ubuntu-mobile very well?
[08:40] <krevitz> is there an option to configure 2 sound cards
[08:40] <joshuajones> did they ever get ubuntu running on iphone/itouch yet? lol
[08:41] <joshuajones> :D
[08:41] <krevitz> not to sound at the same time but to choose one you want to output?
[08:41] <gsevil>  i config monit to send mail to my server, but it had this problem with sendmail:  503 5.5.1 send HELO/EHLO first . I searched google, but found nothing about this
[08:41] <Silent_Echo> mike99....could you pm me and dumb it down, like alot
[08:41] <krevitz> any idea or suggestions?
[08:41] <mike99> Silent_Echo, google UBUNTU bootable USB you'll find what you're looking for
[08:42] <Silent_Echo> mike99 thx thx
[08:42] <wjlafrance> joshuajones: a jailbroken itouch is a fully qualified unix box. well, so is a non-jailbroken one, but then it's a worthless unix box.
[08:42] <joshuajones> wjlafrance : AGREED :D
[08:42] <wjlafrance> joshuajones: for example, i have xterm, ssh, gcc, and other goodies on my itouch :)
[08:42] <greezmunkey> heh, I thought I was pushing this laptop...check this for fun: http://paste.ubuntu.com/314920/
[08:43] <mike99> Silent_Echo, here you go even easier http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive-the-easy-way/
[08:43] <mike99> Silent_Echo, and it has pictures so you can follow step by step
[08:43] <joshuajones> wjlafrance : good luck getting xterm to run on 3.1.2 firmware
[08:43] <Silent_Echo> mike99 awesome thx thx
[08:43] <joshuajones> ;)
[08:43] <wjlafrance> greezmunkey: there's a zombie in that box. i dont like it.
[08:44] <|ntegra|> I'm not too sure how to use my vfat partition
[08:44] <greezmunkey> wjlafrance, I saw that...I can't remember exactly how to run that down...
[08:44] <joshuajones> okay well i'm not getting any answers myself so i guess i'm off to google everyone
[08:44] <knoxville> What command should I use in terminal to find my subnet mask etc. ?
[08:44] <mwallner> hey@all
[08:44] <|ntegra|> hey mwallner
[08:44] <joshuajones> i have enjoyed the prosperous conversationalisms and good morale of my fellow unix supporters this day
[08:45] <joshuajones> :]
[08:45] <mwallner> @knoxville use "ifconfig"
[08:45] <wjlafrance> joshuajones: live long and prosper \\//
[08:46] <mwallner> @knoxville : find out subnet mask etc: "ifconfig <yourinterface>"
[08:47] <alex87> hey guys, does anyone know how to check if compositing is on?
[08:48] <mwallner> easy way to check:
[08:48] <mwallner> go system-appereance
[08:48] <mwallner> sorry
[08:48] <mwallner> system-preferences-appereance-visual effects
[08:48] <mwallner> select "none" to disable compositioning / others will use comp.
[08:48] <jacquesdupontd> dczammit, that's what i did before, the problem as i told you and you should be enought intelligent to understand it, it's not the same to boot on a 750 mb compressed file than a 2 giga installed ubuntu, they are both working on all computers and i install grub on the usb pen drive so i can directly mount iso from the grub 2 now and have the live cd to install the ubuntu if i want it, like i have my xubuntu personnal (better
[08:48] <jacquesdupontd> than usb live key persistent booting really faster) and i have many entries of all iso i putted in a directorie in my grub
[08:48] <alex87> mwallner, so if the effects aren't on then compositing isn't either?
[08:48] <knoxville> mwallner: is there any command to show dns servers in terminal? instead of opening resolv.conf
[08:49] <mwallner> @alex87: right
[08:49] <alex87> mwallner, ah ok, thanks
[08:49] <mwallner> @knoxville .. sorry  -> don't know.. I use "cat /etc/resolv.conf"
[08:49] <guntbert> !attitude | jacquesdupontd
[08:49] <mwallner> and got an alias for it
[08:49] <jacquesdupontd> dczammit, means i can put xubuntu + entrie of xubuntu live cd.iso + entrie of knopix (example), + entrie of windows seven + entrie of even mac os x snow leopard
[08:50] <jacquesdupontd> guntbert, i sorry myself but i don't see about what ?
[08:50] <knoxville> mwallner: Okay, just my teacher wants me to find out!.. :) But I dont think there is! :)
[08:50] <mwallner> o.k..
[08:50] <mwallner> @knoxville.. try this:
[08:50] <guntbert> jacquesdupontd: "the problem as i told you and you should be enought intelligent to understand.." isn't really friendly, is it?
[08:51] <mwallner> @knoxville create a file in /usr/bin (touch /usr/bin/tell-dns") echo some dns-lookup command in it (echo "cat /etc/resolv.conf" > /usr/bin/tell-dns) .. make it executable (chmod o+x /usr/bin/tell-dns) .. you'll be fine :D
[08:51] <jacquesdupontd> guntbert, i'm volunteers that doesn't mean i wanna broke peoples computer cause i wanna help them on subject i don't know at all and look at their sentences it was more like, haha you newbie you think it's faster on a usb pendrive ? as i asked nothing and never tell it was, i don't call that help but more reproach
[08:51] <wjlafrance> jacquesdupontd is an amazing man. He can insult the intelligence of others while putted things in directorie.
[08:51] <knoxville> mwallner: Haha, i'll try that! :
[08:52] <guntbert> jacquesdupontd: ok, maybe I misunderstood... - sorry then
[08:52] <a931bw> ima hacker <3 ima learning python
[08:52] <a931bw> lol
[08:53] <jacquesdupontd> guntbert, i understand i must admit that was hard and i appologize but i hate people that advice me about things i know since level 1 as i'm at level 30 and to loose time but i shouln't talk like that and keep it for myself reaction
[08:53] <guntbert> jacquesdupontd: :)
[08:53] <wjlafrance> im level 1337
[08:53] <|ntegra|> how can I change the permissions on my folder when it belongs to root and I can't change it with gksu nautilus?
[08:53] <guntbert> wjlafrance: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[08:53] <boomer84> gah, why is ubuntuone so shite?
[08:54] <wjlafrance> |ntegra|: sudo chown [yourname] [file]
[08:54] <mwallner> @|NTEGRA| .. try "sudo chmod -R o+rwx <yourfolder>"
[08:54] <wjlafrance> |ntegra|: I'm not sure how to do it in nautilus
[08:54] <mwallner> oh.. right
[08:54] <knoxville> mwallner: Do you know how to empty your DNS cache then?
[08:54] <mwallner> chown is better for this
[08:55] <wjlafrance> guntbert: I'm working on repairing my HD. I came here to ask a question a while back.
[08:55] <jacquesdupontd> come on guys i didn't want to insult anybody, just don't play you're geek when you don't know anything about a subject or on the guy you're helping he could be the guy who invented ubuntu, that makes me just laught under my computer. It's like i would be telling you i have a problem of wifi and that you ask me if my computer is plugged to electricity, sorry but hrm it looks like stupid for me but nevermind
[08:55] <mwallner> knxoville: /etc/rc.d/init.d/nscd restart
[08:55] <|ntegra|> wjlafrance: will that affect 'everything' in, and created in that folder from now on?
[08:56] <tmg1|fwtaylor> xorg keeps freezing on me.  anything running below xorg is fine...i can ssh in and it's even idle, and i can kill xorg or do whathave you from the ssh terminal.  is there any useful information that I can glean from a frozen system xorg that might be helpful in figuring out why it keeps freezing?  I notice that it's current state is sleeping, and it seems to be stuck within a kernel signal handling routine according to its b
[08:56] <|ntegra|> gosh, operation not permitted
[08:56] <roflparrot> jacquesdupontd: ask again
[08:56] <mwallner> |ntegra| .. rly.. also with the "sudo" preamp ?
[08:57] <alex87> is there a opengl plugin for gstreamer in karmic?
[08:57] <knoxville> mwallner: I can not find rc.d dir..
[08:57] <drj1> Hi guys- trouble with my mouse/trackpad since updating to Koala- I need to mouse left handed with the buttons reversed as my right hand doesn't work. However despite what I have set in System>Preferneces>Mouse it won't switch the buttons. Is there a way with the command line to set the mouse? Any help? Thanks
[08:57] <mwallner> |ntegral| sudo chown -R <yourname> <yourdirectory>
[08:57] <greezmunkey> wjlafrance, I found the zombie...I was jacking around with my machine to setup ICS for my Windoze Laptop (needed Internet to DL a driver) anyway...it's not a concern!
[08:57] <mwallner> |knoxville| .. sorry - 1 sec.
[08:58] <greezmunkey> wjlafrance,  1150 11893  1149  1149 ?           -1 Z        0   0:00 [dhclient] <defunct>
[08:58] <aperson> is there a way to configure my thumb buttons on my mouse so they *don't* go back and forward?
[08:58] <mwallner> knoxville: try sudo /etc/init.d/nscd restart
[08:58] <greezmunkey> wjlafrance, I probably Z'd it by abruptly disconnecting the Ethernet connection once I got the wireless driver installed on the 2nd laptop.
[08:59] <mwallner> knoxville: it could be that this doesn't work if you have got "upstart" running .. (ubuntu 9.10) ..
[08:59] <|ntegra|> hmm
[08:59] <mwallner> knoxville: the /etc/init.d scripts have been ported to upstart .. most of them
[08:59] <greezmunkey> heh, you can't kill the dead!
[09:00] <mwallner> knoxville: ok.. this should work.. install nscd daemon :D .. just found out it isn't installed by default
[09:00] <mwallner> knoxville: use this: sudo apt-get install nscd
[09:00] <mwallner> knoxville: then you can restart it.. flushes dns-cache
[09:00] <knoxville> mwallner: roger over! :)
[09:01] <knoxville> mwallner: I would like a "flush dns" command like in win..
[09:01] <mwallner> knoxville: :D 1 sec.
[09:01] <mwallner> knoxville.. should be even easier: /etc/init.d/dns-clean start
[09:01] <mwallner> knoxville: i've never used that before.. but it should work ;)
[09:01] <mwallner> knoxville: ... /etc/init.d/dns-clean start comes pre-set-up on any ubuntu machine as far as i've seen in the man-pages
[09:01] <knoxville> mwallner: How could I check if it worked? :)
[09:02] <mwallner> knoxville: try ping google
[09:02] <mwallner> should take longer for the first result
[09:02] <otoady> What is a direct probe to AP in a dmesg message ?  It's timing out.  What told it to direct probe ?
[09:02] <mwallner> knoxville: because it has to lookup the dns first
[09:03] <greezmunkey> OMG I have finally gone and done it. Tweaking *nix with Star Trek on TV. Gone Geek...
[09:03] <jacquesdupontd> roflparrot, thank you very much, that's very simple and i'm gonna make it with help or not it's just that i had to pass by many many ways to make what i want i need that live cd of lubuntu to work, i was asking if anybody as a direct link to the new lubuntu and to have it in direct link if it's possible, then my project is called "all in one os" you'll have the more light really installed with it's grub on the usb pen drive a
[09:03] <jacquesdupontd> nd then you can put as many .iso as you have place on your usb pen as i know how to make grub launch an .iso (mount it) directly from the boot like if the dvd/cd would be one th usbpen
[09:03] <knoxville> mwallner: same time all the times! :)
[09:03] <AdvoWork> how can i find out what -mtime +1 is on my system? tried echo -mtime + 1 but nothing
[09:04] <mwallner> knoxville: hm .. bad .. but I don't really know how to check if the dns cache is empty.. was just an idea.. sorry..
[09:04] <tasf> anyone around?
[09:05] <knoxville> mwallner: It says it flushed actuelly, but the ping time is the same for 1 hit and fifth hit..
[09:05] <mwallner> hm .. probably it does the lookup before it shows the time for the first hit ..
[09:05] <PhantomLink> eep
[09:06] <PhantomLink> how do i unignore in xchat?
[09:06] <nicolas>  trying to install ubuntu 9.10 all goes fine until it says it cannot install grub to the specified target, then I reboot and cannot boot in getting grub error 2?
[09:06] <knoxville> mwallner: I would imagine.. thanks anyway! :D
[09:06] <mwallner> knoxville: .. one last thing you could try:
[09:06] <greezmunkey> mwallner, what about running a tcpdump to confirm that?
[09:06] <mwallner> knoxville: all cache files go in /var/cache/*** .. probably the dns cache is anywhere there
[09:07] <mwallner> greezmikey: knoxville: good idea!
[09:07] <greezmunkey> mikey like it, hehe
[09:07] <mwallner> sorry.. munkey ^^
[09:07] <greezmunkey> :)
[09:08] <PhantomLink> how do you unignore in xchat?
[09:08] <obiwan_> i think it's the same
[09:08] <mwallner> knoxville: greezmunkey said try tcpdump .. should really work
[09:08] <mwallner> oh.. he left xD
[09:09] <jacquesdupontd> roflparrot, what do you think about the idea i find it brilliant ?
[09:09] <PhantomLink> wait nvm found it
[09:09] <nicolas> getting grub error 2 on fresh install of 9.10 any ideas?
[09:09] <madmike88252> hi there
[09:10] <madmike88252> can anyone here help me with rsync?
[09:10] <jacquesdupontd> roflparrot, i don't really have to be proud but just be proud of grub2 even if it is really boring and not working that good and have many problems configuring it with those 10_ 20_ and so on files
[09:10] <mwallner> nicolas: do you have any ide drives ?
[09:10] <chetnick> i just installed Ubuntu 9.10, my wifi does not work lspci -k show that the driver was loaded. It's a broadcom chipset, it worked pretty much out of the box on 9.04. Any suggestions?
[09:10] <nicolas> mwallner: no two SATAs
[09:11] <mwallner> nicolas: try to go into BIOS, try to "disable IDE support"
[09:11] <mwallner> nicolas: some others had that problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151682
[09:11] <jacquesdupontd> this stupid grub is asking me for a menu.lst when i do an "sudo update-grub" and i'm using grub 2 so i have to rm /boot/grub/grub.cfg and put it again when generated with sudo grub-mkconfig
[09:11] <nicolas> mwallner: thanks checking those now....
[09:11] <greezmunkey> chetnick, do you get an interface in iwconfig?
[09:12] <madmike88252> hey i cannot start the rsync daemon,
[09:12] <madmike88252> anyone can help?
[09:12] <chetnick> greezmunkey: i'll check it out.
[09:12] <srepfler> hi, if I already have ubuntu installed but with grub (2) on the wrong hard drive, what do I need to do to regenerate and write grub to a certain drive?
[09:12] <mwallner> hey guys (and girls?) don't know if this is a proper place.. but what are your favourite gtk+ -themes ? :D -> i like clearlooks pretty much
[09:13] <mwallner> dpkg --reconfigure grub2
[09:13] <mwallner> or something similar.. don't know it exactly.. but should work like this
[09:14] <jorge> alguien me podria ayudar?
[09:14] <chetnick> greezmunkey: it's there.
[09:14] <nicolas> mwallner: when I installed 9.10 it said that it could not install grub bootloader to the target? I am not running grub2 is that my problem?
[09:14] <infid> how can i add my old folder to the 'Places' menu?
[09:14] <greezmunkey> chetnick, chetnick, hold a minute, I have what you need...
[09:14] <jorge> como saber mis valores de HorizSync VertRefresh
[09:14] <wiehan> Hi How do I use the mobile broadband connection in ubuntu with networks not listed in the auto configuration prompt?
[09:15] <chetnick> greezmunkey: thanks.
[09:15] <jorge> w17q
[09:15] <mwallner> nicolas: yay! .. seems like you've got a problem ^^ how do you start your linux-install? .. does it actually start?
[09:15] <jorge> COMPAC
[09:15] <nicolas> mwallner: yeah, it goes through the entire installation and tells me at the last that the package failed to install
[09:15] <Michalxo> Anyone able to help me? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/429249 ?
[09:16] <jorge> alguien  que me ayude?
[09:16] <greezmunkey> chetnick, check this out - should get you going!: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[09:16] <mwallner> nicolas: .. that's pretty weird.. did you select anything special for grub ? .. like an alternate hdd ?
[09:16] <zetheroo> ok I have completed my Ubuntu 9.10 Survey - any takers?
[09:16] <wiehan> Hi I want to use my mobile broadband connection in ubuntu 9.04 - it is one of those usb hsdpa/3g devices. I do however want to use it with a network other than the ones provided in the auto prompt. I am in namibia and want to use the MTC network
[09:17] <nicolas> mwallner: nothing, just inserted the live cd and hit install
[09:17] <Michalxo> zetheroo, yes
[09:17] <nicolas> mwallner: is there a way to install the appropriate grub version via live cd?
[09:17] <mwallner> nicolas: hm .. that I guess I can't help you.. should work out-of-the-box normally ("should") ..
[09:17] <mwallner> nicolas:
[09:17] <zetheroo> Michalxo: pming you
[09:18] <mwallner> i guess yes.. but i'm not that pro to tell you how.. sorr
[09:18] <nicolas> mwallner: no prob, thanks for trying
[09:18] <Michalxo> Anyone able to help me? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/429249 ? :-((
[09:18] <mwallner> nicolas: never mind
[09:19] <mwallner> Michalxo: have you tried re-configuring xorg yet?
[09:19] <wiehan> I would appreciate some help
[09:19] <indus> Michalxo: what is that bug
[09:20] <tmg1|fwtaylor> zetheroo:?
[09:20] <zetheroo> tmg1|fwtaylor: yes?
[09:20] <Michalxo> mwallner, nope
[09:20] <mwallner> hey wiehan:
[09:20] <SwedeMike> when 2.6.31.x gets new versions/bug fixes, are these adopted by ubuntu continously?
[09:20] <Michalxo> indus, keyboard problem.. it freezes after sleeping/waking up
[09:20] <mwallner> Michalxo: then try!
[09:20] <indus> Michalxo: go to #ubuntu-bugs
[09:20] <mwallner> wiehan: it definitely works.. I used to do it in ubuntu 8.04
[09:21] <indus> Michalxo: ask in #ubuntu-xorg
[09:21] <mwallner> wiehan: what exactly is your problem?
[09:21] <Michalxo> ok guys! thx for help
[09:21] <wiehan> mwallner: well, I want to use it with a different network, other than the ones listed by the automatic configuration prompt that pops up when inserting the device? There is no option "other networks"
[09:21] <jacquesdupontd> ok nobody seems to understand how it can be cool you'll see when i'll make an image pack with most of all distrib needed, lubuntu real install + knopix + ubcd + windows xp live cd would be perfect, cause then i'm gonna sell those key packed for different uses for different people
[09:22] <ShishKabab> Hi. I'm a slow typer and we have thought of something that'd help me and others. It'd be nice if the numpad (if numlock is off) could be used in the same way a phone keypad is used to type SMSes (with all sorts of completion). Does such an application already exist?
[09:22] <mwallner> wiehan: select any of those listed.. afterwards go back into network-manager (preferences - wireless broadband or something like this) and edit the config of it
[09:22] <mwallner> wiehan: it really doesn't matter what you select first.. that are just some pre-configured profiles
[09:22] <ubuntu_> how can i fix a MSD Disk after losing all its data? (it worked about 4 weaks, after yesterday all partitions are gone)??
[09:23] <ubuntu_> can i refix this?
[09:23] <mwallner> wihean: you can alter everything afterwards .. you just need to know your apn, user and pass
[09:23] <mwallner> wiehan: and be careful that those are correct.. can get pretty expensive when surfing in the net of another provieder xD
[09:24] <greezmunkey> jacquesdupontd, sure sell someone else's work...I suppose you could. The question is how many people would buy it? Would it be worth the trouble?
[09:24] <mwallner> ubuntu_: important data you need?
[09:25] <om26er> what is ubuntu backports?
[09:25] <ubuntu_> mwallner: my whole system was on it?
[09:25] <ubuntu_> mwallner: got backups from all important data. but not of my configfiles
[09:25] <wiehan> mwallner: thanks man, I checked in the windows config now: and it seems pretty simple: APN is just "internet" and number is *99# and there really isn't any other significant settings... does that seem right?
[09:25] <mwallner> ubuntu_: oh .. sorry .. thats bad .. don't know how to handle such a "massive" data-loss xD
[09:26] <iceroot> !backports | om26er
[09:26] <mwallner> wiehan: yes, should be.. most providers make it really simple
[09:26] <ubuntu_> i quit the pc yesterday, and after starting today... clean MSD device. no tables/bootssektors/partitions
[09:26] <GuiltySpark> Hey guys Im getting this Error On Ubuntu 9.10 Any Ideas on how to fix?  [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x3400, Size=0x3b26e0]
[09:26] <GuiltySpark> [Initrd, addr=0xb7e8000, Size=0x78baec]
[09:27] <greezmunkey> GuiltySpark, When do you see that, on boot?
[09:27] <GuiltySpark> Yes On Boot
[09:27] <ruben_> Some tool that I can monitor network activity?
[09:27] <GuiltySpark> It freezes from there.
[09:28] <mwallner> ruben_: try wireshark =)
[09:28] <jacquesdupontd> greezmunkey, i've got already customers, cause i would make special custom key with chinese producers with a special pattern/design of the key for each pack
[09:28] <jacquesdupontd> greezmunkey, i'm testing something i reboot
[09:28] <Guest20403> mwallner: can run using a remote server?
[09:28] <mwallner> ruben_: wireshark is a bit more than a traffic-analyzer.. but .. it's worth it ;)
[09:28] <greezmunkey> oh, yikes! I get something like that on boot, but the system seems to run fine. I figured it was normal...
[09:28] <mwallner> Guest20403: what do you mean?
[09:29] <knoppix> hi
[09:29] <knoppix> was geht?
[09:29] <mwallner> hi =)
[09:29] <knoppix> if then
[09:29] <mwallner> ? -_-
[09:29] <knoppix> was geht?
[09:29] <meowpup> hi i was wondering if there was a system wide eq app avaialable. i want to be able to change settings when listing to youtube
[09:29] <GuiltySpark> Hrm...It just freezes on that page wont do nothing until I hit the power button...
[09:29] <greezmunkey> ruben_, what do you want to monitor?
[09:29] <doktoreas> hello folks..is there any way to have g77 inside karmic?
[09:30] <knoppix> noone from germany?
[09:30] <GuiltySpark> CPU Is at 0% So I have no idea...
[09:30] <mwallner> :D sicherlich viele
[09:30] <Guest20403> greezmunkey: Hello, I want to monitor what's wrong if something does not work, since some user are download something etc.
[09:30] <knoppix> haja nice
[09:30] <knoppix> was geht so?
[09:30] <mwallner> aber es spricht trotzdem niemand Deutsch hier
[09:30] <knoppix> langweilig -.- ^
[09:30] <mwallner> :D und ich bin aus Österreich, und du bist glaub ich im falschen Channel.. das hier ist ein support-Forum.. kein "talkTalkTalk" ;)
[09:30] <knoppix> aso
[09:31] <ubuntu_> hrhr
[09:31] <knoppix> ja ne ich sitz grad in d schule und wir testen knoppix und andre betriebssysteme
[09:31] <knoppix> hab dann ma den chat ausprobiert
[09:31] <mwallner> das hört man gerne =)
[09:31] <greezmunkey> Guest20403, Are you looking to monitor Internet acces from within your network?
[09:31] <Guest20403> greezmunkey: yes
[09:31] <knoppix> was haltet ihr so von knoppix?
[09:31] <Valentina> What FTP client do you recommend to Ubuntu? I have been using gFTP but I think it has got some bugs. What else ftp clients do you use?
[09:31] <greezmunkey> Why not setup a smoothwall box, and then "groom" the logs?
[09:32] <mwallner> tjo.. es is halt eine "live-distri" .. meiner meinung nach nicht vergleichbar mit einem installiertem system.. aber wirklich sehr gut
[09:32] <zaggynl> !de | mwallner
[09:32] <Guest20403> greezmunkey: I remember that debian has a good curses tool, but i do not remember the name :P
[09:32] <knoppix> haja mir gefällts eig auch voll gut, die spiele können alles ^^
[09:32] <mwallner> kay
[09:32] <knoppix> also, ich packs ma wieder -.- madige aufgaben machen
[09:32] <greezmunkey> You could even setup email alerts, etc. if I am not mistaken...
[09:32] <knoppix> cya
[09:32] <mwallner> cy
[09:33] <mwallner> zaggynl: thanks for the hint =)
[09:34] <tmg1|fwtaylor> zetheroo i thought you were asking the crowd something
[09:34] <ubuntu_> so i cant fix a HDD if it lost the partitions?
[09:34] <zaggynl> np mwallner
[09:34] <zetheroo> tmg1|fwtaylor: I was :) Want to take part in an Ubuntu survey?
[09:35] <zaggynl> damn, this channel getting more and more crowded, ~1535 folks :/
[09:35] <mwallner> ubuntu_: seemly.. it's bad you lost your parititions.. the only way would be to recreate the partitions-table... but I don't think that works like... "easy"
[09:35] <tmg1|fwtaylor> jacquesdupontd selling xp images...hmmm...legal?
[09:35] <nicolas> mwallner: do you think a jmircron raid controller ide would be the problem?
[09:35] <aperson> is there a way to configure my thumb buttons on my mouse so they *don't* go back and forward?
[09:36] <zetheroo> I finally uploaded the Ubuntu 9.10 survey to wordpress ... so its there for anyone to take part in ... http://techiesrus.wordpress.com/
[09:36] <mwallner> nicolas: .. wow.. could be .. sorry.. don't really work with raid but in my qnap-nas ^^
[09:37] <nicolas> how do you update to grub 2 through a live cd?
[09:40] <greezmunkey> lo
[09:43] <ubuntu_> with debug the error message says /dev/sda: Bad magic number in super-block while opening filesystem
[09:43] <imagitron2> My Dell Mini 10 won't resume from sleep. Running Jaunty. Any ideas?
[09:44] <knoppies> imagitron2, I assume you have a swap partition.
[09:44] <imagitron2> knoppies, 2GB (1GB of RAM)
[09:44] <Valentina> What FTP client do you recommend using Ubuntu desktop edition?
[09:45] <x-Na> Valentina, I  use nautilus. Or just plain ftp from commandline...
[09:45] <andrew_46> Valentina: Easiest to use would be gftp
[09:45] <knoppies> imagitron2, Ive had problems with PCs and sleeping often (in windows though) so I refrain from sleeping the PC. But Im not entirely sure what causes it. You can have a look in the bios. I know there are settings there that you can play with, but Im not sure they are the cause you are looking for.
[09:46] <sleepy_cat> hi i got a file .fv i tried to make it work with VLC, and other players but it did not work.. later on when i tried the same file on windows it worked.. what could be the issue on linux
[09:46] <sleepy_cat> .flv
[09:46] <tmg1|fwtaylor> zetheroo ok
[09:46] <srepfler> thanks mwallner
[09:46] <imagitron2> knoppies, yeah. this is my netbook. I unplug it in the morning and plug it back in at night. sleep is crucial :)
[09:46] <Docteh> the device drivers for desktop chipsets might not be tested as well as necessary for waking up
[09:46]  * tmg1|fwtaylor is a sucker for surveys
[09:46] <zetheroo> tmg1|fwtaylor: did you get the link?>
[09:47] <zetheroo> tmg1|fwtaylor: http://techiesrus.wordpress.com/
[09:47] <ubuntunewbie> hi would like to know how to backup programs .What command I need to type on terminal ?
[09:47] <andrew_46> sleepy_cat: Can you identify the contents of the flv with 'ffmpeg -i myfile.flv'?
[09:47] <knoppies> imagitron2, you can see if there is anything interesting in the bios settings (you might want to remember what they were before you changed them). Sorry I can't help you any further.
[09:48] <sleepy_cat> ok wait
[09:48] <greezmunkey> In the package manager, what does the "Ubuntu" icon signify when it shows up next to a package?
[09:48] <crypto_> How to setup an Ad-hoc network to share internet in ubuntu 9.10
[09:48] <Valentina> x-Na: Ok, thanks.
[09:48] <Yolarina> Why were the menu icons removed from programs in 9.10?
[09:49] <tamir> hi all
[09:49] <crypto_> How to setup an Ad-hoc network to share internet in ubuntu 9.10??
[09:49] <x-Na> Valentina, but gftp is more old-style ftp-program, try them out and see what fits you the best
[09:49] <greezmunkey> Yolarina, you responding to me?
[09:49] <Yolarina> greezmunkey: No.
[09:50] <greezmunkey> k
[09:50] <Valentina> andrew_46: I have had problems using gFTP. It sometimes disconnects from a server, but that may be cause of the server, not the ftp client. i don't know.
[09:50] <ubuntunewbie> hi
[09:50] <syn-ack> greezmunkey, it means it's maintained and supported by ubuntu.
[09:50] <greezmunkey> syn-ack, thanks!
[09:50] <andrew_46> Valentina: I will admit that I have spent some time and trouble to set rsync for my ftp needs
[09:50] <beatpanic> hi, someone is experiencing frequent 'stops' of audio with pulseaudio?
[09:50] <zetheroo> anyone else interested in taking the Ubuntu 9.10 survey?
[09:51] <Valentina> x-Na: I have tried gFTP and I think it's rather problematic. It disconnects sometimes and well, I'm not that found of it. Maybe I shall learn to use a cli ftp client.
[09:51] <crypto_> How to setup an Ad-hoc network to share internet in ubuntu 9.10
[09:51] <sleepy_cat> andrew_46: I get unsupported video codec in the terminal
[09:51] <sleepy_cat> (7)
[09:51] <k_> :)
[09:51] <beatpanic> sound is working, but after a bit it stops: hda -intel
[09:51] <greezmunkey> i figured it was something like that, but am new to ubuntu and had to ask.
[09:51] <syn-ack> !parroting | crypto_
[09:51] <crypto_> sorry
[09:51] <syn-ack> !repeating | crypto_
[09:51] <syn-ack> dammit
[09:51] <x-Na> Valentina, if you want to go to CLI, try ncftp
[09:51] <Valentina> andrew_46: rsync is an automatics ftp service, or have I got it wrong?
[09:51] <arobitag> is it possible to run xen as a client on ubuntu without affecting the ubuntu install? ie I would like to get xen running on my workstation and segment it to only one processor so that I can use some extra processing power for my server when needed
[09:51] <om26er> !gnome3
[09:51] <k_> Ubuntu 9.10 is a very nice distro, but I have one question, why do all the windows open (maximise)
[09:51] <crypto_> syn-ack:P
[09:51] <andrew_46> sleepy_cat: Can you post the full commandline + output to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/?
[09:51] <ubuntunewbie> hi
[09:52] <syn-ack> crypto_, Knock it off. mmmmkay?
[09:52] <ubuntunewbie> I would like to know how to backup programs .What command I need to type on terminal ?
[09:52] <Valentina> x-Na: Ok, thanks for the advice.
[09:52] <crypto_> How to setup an Ad-hoc network to share internet in ubuntu 9.10?
[09:52] <om26er> k_: using ubuntu netbook remix?
[09:52] <iceroot> ubuntunewbie: hi, how can we help you?
[09:52] <crypto_> :P
[09:52] <k_> no, gnome
[09:52] <sleepy_cat> ok wait.. btw what does -i stand for .. i kind of lost track of whats it called
[09:52] <om26er> k_: did you install maximus?
[09:52] <beatpanic> any takers? :)
[09:52] <x-Na> Valentina, I rather like that I'm able to move files around Nautilus, easier that way.
[09:52] <andrew_46> sleepy_cat: -i is for the 'i'nput file
[09:52] <tamir> hi
[09:52] <k_> no, ive hardly installed anything
[09:52] <om26er> !hi | tamir
[09:53] <k_> just changed the wallpaper and window theme.
[09:53] <tamir> how to connect pidgin to yahoo ??? pls
[09:53] <om26er> tamir: go to accounts
[09:53] <Valentina> x-Na: By nautilus you mean the GUI Nautilus, the Ubuntu version of Windows Explorer, right? Not a cli version of Nautilus?
[09:53] <andrew_46> Valentina: rsync is a file copying tool that can synchronise local to remote locations, amongst many other uses
[09:53] <om26er> tamir: and add yahoo
[09:53] <erUSUL> tamir: which version of pidgin ?
[09:54] <Valentina> andrew_46: Why just not use scp?
[09:54] <om26er> tamir: accounts--> manage accounts>>
[09:54] <tamir> hi
[09:54]  * k_ googles maximus, wonders what it does
[09:54] <om26er> tamir: then in the popup click add
[09:54] <x-Na> Valentina, Nautilus is part of Gnome. It's not something Ubuntu has created. And surely it has nothing to do with windows
[09:54] <tamir> ty
[09:54] <sleepy_cat> andrew_46: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2d18c334
[09:54] <andrew_46> Valentina: I believe that scp does not synchronis
[09:55] <om26er> k_: in ubuntu netbook remix it maximizes all applications except some to fit netbbok screen.
[09:55] <Valentina> x-Na: I know it has nothing to do with Windows, I meant that it's the ordinary file GUI in Ubuntu and it's there isn't a cli version of it. I think not, but I didn't know it was a part of Gnome.
[09:55] <szili> hy all
[09:55] <Yolarina> Why were the menu icons (for File -> Open/Save/Close/etc.) removed with 9.10?
[09:55] <k_> just the basic gnome setup, its annoying having to un-max every window you open
[09:56] <x-Na> Valentina, no, there isn't cli version
[09:56] <szili> someone can help for me?
[09:56] <erUSUL> !ask | szili
[09:56] <andrew_46> sleepy_cat: Which version of Ubuntu are you using? And where did the FFmpeg come from?
[09:56] <Valentina> x-Na: Ok, isn't it problematic then for you to use it as a ftp client? It would be simpler for a guy knowing linux to use a cli ftp client?
[09:57] <om26er> k_: might not work but try sudo apt-get purge maximus. will remove maximus if its installed. try
[09:57] <ubuntunewbie> iceroot: Hi , I plan to backup my application , I read the backup command but after pasting the command , already 1 hour still not finish
[09:57] <sleepy_cat> I am using Ubuntu8.04LTS and what do you mean by where did FFmeg come from
[09:57] <k_> there are no gadgets on the firefox window when it opens
[09:57] <ubuntunewbie> iceroot: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[09:57] <andrew_46> sleepy_cat: This is from the main Ubuntu Repository?
[09:57] <k_> om26er, thanks, and lets try that
[09:57] <om26er> k_: try getting back to previous theme and see if this helps
[09:57] <szili> !ask | szili
[09:57] <k_> om26er, already tried
[09:57] <sleepy_cat> yes i suppose
[09:58] <k_> i have this before i changed the theme
[09:58] <om26er> k_: tried reboot?
[09:58] <szili> hy all
[09:58] <Yolarina> Why were the menu icons (for File -> Open/Save/Close/etc.) removed with 9.10?
[09:58] <sleepy_cat> andrew_46: Its from Medibuntu
[09:58] <szili> i need any help to instal tork or vidalia program
[09:58] <k_> om26er, yep, was trying to sort this when I install last night
[09:58] <erUSUL> Yolarina: i think it was a decision of the gnome project. remove icons from menu items
[09:58] <greezmunkey> Valentina, in a term you can launch an ftp get and put it in the background if you want, but gftp seems to be pretty cool...
[09:58] <erUSUL> !find vidalia
[09:58] <Yolarina> erUSUL: How do I shoot them in the foot?
[09:59] <szili> !find vidalia
[09:59] <sleepy_cat> andrew_46: When i run the same file under windows in Real Player or WMP it works fine
[09:59] <erUSUL> Yolarina: ;P
[09:59] <om26er> andrew_46: whats the file type plz
[09:59] <erUSUL> szili: sudo aptitude install vidalia
[09:59] <Valentina> greezmunkey: Yeah, I have tried gFTP, and I think it looks like a ordinary FTP client.
[09:59] <Tatzelbrumm> is this the right forum to ask about updating details from 9.04 to 9.10?
[10:00] <erUSUL> !upgrade | Tatzelbrumm
[10:00] <Madpilot> greezmunkey, Valentina - I'd rate Filezilla as a better GUI FTP client than gftp
[10:00] <greezmunkey> yea, makes it pretty fool-proof...
[10:00] <k_> om26er, given the changes that have been made with autoremove, ill reboot
[10:00] <Tatzelbrumm> ubottu: ok, RTFM first ... fair enough.
[10:00] <greezmunkey> anyway...g'nite all! Thanks for the helps...
[10:00] <andrew_46> om26er: ?
[10:01] <sleepy_cat> andrew_46: can you tell me what exactly could be the problem..
[10:01] <xorwhy> hello
[10:01] <delfick> I'm unsure where to ask this, so please feel free to refer me elsewhere. But I want to use thinkgeek from Australia. Anyone know how I can tell if it's in AUD$ or USD$ ??
[10:01] <Valentina> So, you recommend gFTP instead of ncftp then?
[10:01] <om26er> andrew_46: media files that were working in win and not in ubuntu it type?
[10:01] <tkmsr> join/ ##xen
[10:02] <andrew_46> sleepy_cat: I believe you have 2 windows codecs in flv container
[10:02] <kevin01> hello
[10:02] <sleepy_cat> oh so what should i do now
[10:02] <om26er> !offtopic | delfick
[10:02] <xorwhy> I finally made the perfect backup image
[10:02] <delfick> om26er: fair enough :p
[10:02] <andrew_46> sleepy_cat: If so the mplayer from Medibuntu + the w32codecs should play this file
[10:03] <om26er> delfick: its US$
[10:03] <Tatzelbrumm> ok, so the bot pointed me to pages that DON'T solve my problem ... namely, that my update manager under 9.04 doesn't show the available upgrade to 9.10 any more.
[10:03] <delfick> hmm, oh well, 1US = 1.07AU atm, so not too much difference :)
[10:03] <delfick> thankyou
[10:03] <sleepy_cat> andrew_46: can you guide me from where i can get that ?
[10:03] <Tatzelbrumm> Reason: I was in China for 2 weeks when the upgrade was released, and didn't want to upgrade then.
[10:03] <kevin01> are there any filipino people?
[10:04] <Tatzelbrumm> Now how can I upgrade, or bamboozle the update manager to show me the available upgrade again?
[10:04] <ubuntunewbie> iceroot: any help please ?
[10:04] <om26er> !ph
[10:04] <kevin01> tnx
[10:04] <andrew_46> sleepy_cat: Medibuntu repository: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[10:04] <Tatzelbrumm> Any homan support droid listening, anyhow?
[10:04] <erUSUL> Tatzelbrumm: Go to system>admin>software sources
[10:04] <andrew_46> sleepy_cat: And then sudo apt-get install mplayer w32codecs
[10:05] <Tatzelbrumm> homan^H^H^H^H^Hhuman
[10:05] <erUSUL> Tatzelbrumm: third tab "updates"
[10:05] <ubuntunewbie> Anyone know how to fix font error ?
[10:05] <Tatzelbrumm> erUSUL: yes, I'm there... what now?
[10:05] <lupine_85> So I'm having an issue with Ubuntu 9.10 + LTSP + GNOME - if I lock the screen, it insists that I'm giving it the wrong password when I try to unlock it. Anyone come across that before?
[10:05] <om26er> !op
[10:05] <k_> back
[10:06] <om26er> !offtopic
[10:06] <andrew_46> sleepy_cat: And then open the file with MPlayer and cross your fingers :)
[10:06] <sleepy_cat> I got the Mplayer
[10:06] <bazhang> om26er, whats up
[10:06] <sleepy_cat> now getting the win32codecs
[10:06] <Madpilot> om26er, ??
[10:06] <k_> every window, on startup from Gnome, ia maxed :(
[10:06] <erUSUL> Tatzelbrumm: at the botton "distribution Updates" --> Show new versions ... select Normal Editions from drop down menu
[10:06] <Tatzelbrumm> erUSUL: yes, that's what I already have, but the upgrade doesn't show up any more.
[10:07] <Tatzelbrumm> erUSUL: I suspect that it stops showing upgrades after some 7...10 days. How do I get the option back?
[10:07] <sleepy_cat> andrew_46: mplayer is already the newest version.Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[10:07] <erUSUL> Tatzelbrumm: last resort. « gksudo update-manager -d »
[10:08] <Madpilot> om26er, is there some issue you think needs the attention of ops? Please don't randomly hit the ops tell...
[10:08] <k_> om26er, im stomped into why this is happen, reading about compiz, there is an option that can max all windows, Windows layouts, if i untick this, it ticks itself.
[10:08] <andrew_46> sleepy_cat: sudo apt-get update
[10:09] <mwallner> heya, some annoying problem: when I watch video-clips in totem, faces and light-color are blue..
[10:09] <k_> om26er, I think this is the problem, bug in compiz
[10:09] <sleepy_cat> ok
[10:09] <szili> someone used Tork or Vidalia program?
[10:09] <Tatzelbrumm> erUSUL: will that give me the option to upgrade, or start upgrading immediately? Reason I ask: I'm using two other computers as minesweeper before I want to upgrade my primary computer. There are some unresolved issues so far on a Dell D620, and the computer in question is a Dell D820, i.e., almost the same.
[10:09] <andrew_46> sleepy_cat: you did type in w32codecs not win32codecs?
[10:09] <mwallner> when i watch the clip with vlc, kaffeine etc.. it is ok .. but not after I watched something in totem.. then I have to restart the stytem to get it right again xD
[10:09] <sleepy_cat> yes
[10:09] <sleepy_cat> w32
[10:09] <iceroot> !backup | ubuntunewbie
[10:10] <om26er> k_ disable compiz and see if it helps
[10:10] <sleepy_cat> what to do after update
[10:10] <iceroot> what does a load of 5 means? and what is 100% cpu usage in load-value?
[10:10] <k_> om26er, how do you do that
[10:10] <k_> om26er, uninstall?
[10:10] <om26er> k_: no
[10:10] <mwallner> somebody knows my problem? .. after I watched a video in totem, faces and light colors are blue in movies.. I have to restart the whole machine and watch with vlc instead.. ?
[10:10] <andrew_46> sleepy_cat: Try again sudo apt-get install mplayer w32codecs
[10:11] <sleepy_cat> i tried with sudo  apt-get install w32codecs same error message
[10:11] <om26er> k_: go to system--> preferences
[10:11] <om26er> k_: appearances
[10:11] <k_> k
[10:11] <bazhang> sleepy_cat, you get those from medibuntu.org
[10:11] <om26er> k_: then go to visual effects and make them none
[10:11] <mwallner> anyone?
[10:12] <Tatzelbrumm> erUSUL: disregard my last question, your "last resort" seems to work fine!
[10:12] <erUSUL> Tatzelbrumm: that will give you the option only
[10:12] <dragos> sal all!
[10:12] <k_> k, done, having to un-max everything, since the screen changed
[10:12] <bazhang> mwallner, with compiz or without
[10:12] <andrew_46> sleepy_cat: Direct link: http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/non-free/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20071007-0medibuntu2.1_i386.deb
[10:13] <Valentina> I want to make a backup of some folders in mu Home directory like one or two times a day. Would it be smart way to solve this to zip the olders and then move them using a cron job by scp to two toher hard drives?
[10:13] <Tatzelbrumm> Implementation question: On a Dell Latitude D620/D820, how do I swap the left and right touch pad buttons?
[10:13] <wjlafrance> How fast/slow are USB sticks compared to CDs?
[10:13] <sleepy_cat> ok downloading
[10:13] <Tatzelbrumm> System->Preferences->Mouse->General->Mouse Orientation does NOT work.
[10:14] <om26er> sleepy_cat: http://pastebin.org/52391 copy everything in the text file and paste in the terminal with ctrl+shif+v
[10:14] <wjlafrance> Tatzelbrumm: There goes my solution.
[10:14] <k_> filezilla lost its gadgets, I cant do anything with that, rebooting again
[10:14] <sleepy_cat> om26er: ?
[10:14] <erUSUL> !sbackup | Valentina
[10:14] <erUSUL> iceroot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_(computing)#Unix-style_load_calculation
[10:14] <Tatzelbrumm> More specifically, System->Preferences->Mouse->General->Mouse Orientation does NOT work on a Dell Latitude D620. It did work with KDE.
[10:15] <mwallner> bazhang: with both
[10:15] <k_> firefox the same, opened another, and its done the same, X-Chat is full screen
[10:15] <mwallner> bazhang: (just tried)
[10:15] <mwallner> bazhang: I assume it's an xorg-bug.. but I already reconfigured everything .. didn't help either
[10:15] <k_> no gadgets on any window, i have to right click the tabs on the menu bar to make any window changes
[10:15] <mwallner> and it just appears when I wath something with totem once
[10:16] <mwallner> bazhang: if I use vlc from the beginning, everything works fine
[10:16] <k_> cant logout
[10:16] <mwallner> bazhang: kaffeine also works.. just totem not
[10:16] <k_> no window pops up
[10:16] <mwallner> or "messes around"
[10:16] <om26er> k_: reboot
[10:16] <iceroot> erUSUL: ok, so if i had a load of 1.5 on a 2 core system. its 75% cpu-usage (1.5cores from 2 cores are used with 100%, so there are 0.5 cores left)
[10:16] <k_> shutdown window is hidden. lol
[10:16] <k_> cant see it
[10:17] <sleepy_cat> andrew_46: om26er I installed the win32codecs now i get an error message when i open the file using Mplayer :- "cannot find codec for audio format 0xA"
[10:17] <iceroot> !enter | k_
[10:17] <om26er> sleepy_cat: use totem
[10:17] <erUSUL> iceroot: load counts processes « each process using or waiting for CPU adds to the load number by 1 »
[10:17] <om26er> try
[10:18] <sleepy_cat> om26er: internal data stream error
[10:18] <sleepy_cat> in totem
[10:18] <Valentina> erUSUL: Ok, thanks, but I use Ubuntu Server so it has to be cli?
[10:18] <om26er> sleepy_cat: i just knew that totem don't play w32
[10:18] <chris88> whats everyone talking about
[10:19] <ubuntunewbie> iceroot : thanks for the backup program but I can't install any of them
[10:19] <om26er> sleepy_cat: are you trying wmv?
[10:19] <mwallner> @all .. just resolved my bug: http://old.nabble.com/-Bug-45118--x11-driver-video-nvidia-current,-NEW:-Incorrect-hue-setting-playing-videos-on-Nvidia-8-9000-series-cards-p20058248.html
[10:19] <sleepy_cat> wmv ?
[10:19] <dragos> sombody help !! i need a video driver for    VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[10:19] <erUSUL> Valentina: i see. maybe something like rsnapashot ? http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/217
[10:19] <om26er> sleepy_cat: plz for once tell me the file format you are tryiong to play in mplayer
[10:20] <sleepy_cat> flv
[10:20] <ubuntunewbie> iceroot : I only can run command line
[10:20] <k_> ok, reboot seem to have helped. all windows are normal, does this mean, I cant use special effects?
[10:20] <sleepy_cat> i thought i had already said that.. sorry.. its .flv
[10:20] <om26er> sleepy_cat: if you play your flv file from terminal using mplayer then what's the error?
[10:21] <sleepy_cat> a whole list of error
[10:21] <sleepy_cat> wait i will post it on pastebin
[10:21] <Valentina> erUSUL: Yea, maybe. Wouldn't it work to just zip a lot of files and then use the ordinary cp command together with a cron job?
[10:22] <pkkm> how can I install newest libnet?
[10:22] <k_> om26er, thankyou mate
[10:22] <erUSUL> Valentina: it will work. but use tarballs not zip. tar can store unix ownership and file modes etc...
[10:24] <sleepy_cat> om26er: http://pastebin.org/52393
[10:25] <jjdmol> hi; this channel may be too broad.. but I'm looking for a way to specify a different subpixel rendering per monitor
[10:25] <ariqs> iptables -I INPUT -s 94.23.197.115 -j DROP <-- why isn't this blocking that ip?
[10:25] <jjdmol> all the tools seem to assume i want the same setting for all monitors
[10:26] <iceroot> ubuntunewbie: have a look at rsync
[10:26] <klong> jjdmol, i have no idea but some people in #compiz are pretty smart .
[10:26] <jjdmol> klong: thanks
[10:26] <Tatzelbrumm> ok someone on #ubuntu-bugs suggests I should file an official bug report for the issue with non-swapping touch pad keys under 9.10, GNOME, on a Dell Latitude D620. Is that the proper procedure at this time?
[10:26] <jjdmol> ariqs: maybe another rule already allows it to pass?
[10:26] <iceroot> i can see with stat file, how many hardlinks are there. is there a way to see all the other locations the hardlink is pointing to?
[10:27] <iceroot> !bug | Tatzelbrumm
[10:28] <ariqs> iptables -I INPUT -s 94.23.197.115 -j DROP <-- why isn't this blocking that ip?  I have 94.23.197.115:80 in my iptraf log everywhere
[10:29] <Valentina> erUSUL: Aha, ok, that would be nice, would tarballs work using files in Ubuntu encrypted Home directory also or will it somehow remove the encryption?
[10:29] <DarwinSurvivor> I just upgraded my mother's eee (1000HE) to karmic, and now the fonts are messed up after resuming from suspend
[10:30] <iceroot> i am using rsync to backup some files (with hardlinks). rsync is only creating hardlinks for directorys but not for files. is that normal?
[10:30] <erUSUL> Valentina: well that i really dunno. if you run from a cron job maybe the tar sees the encrypted files (becouse is not you who is running it) but i dunno
[10:30] <Tatzelbrumm> iceroot: just to get the Turing tests straight ... so you're an actual human who delegated the answer to the bot ubottu, right?
[10:30] <andrew_46> sleepy_cat: This file is online somewhere?
[10:30] <DarwinSurvivor> I've tried setting the AccelMethod to AAX and uxa, same problem
[10:31] <iceroot> Tatzelbrumm: what?
[10:31] <erUSUL> iceroot: maybe one of the *gazillion* options of rsync controls that ... check its man page
[10:31] <iceroot> erUSUL: done
[10:31] <sleepy_cat> nope
[10:31] <sleepy_cat> well its a youtube file
[10:31] <rd1381> dragos: http://bloggervarun.wordpress.com/2009/04/05/installing-intel-graphics-controller-driver-ubuntu/
[10:31] <sleepy_cat> which i downloaded using real player downloads
[10:31] <rd1381> dragos:hope it helps
[10:32] <iceroot> Tatzelbrumm: ! is used for saying the bot, he should give an anwser to the person after |
[10:32] <bazhang>  please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » Tatzelbrumm
[10:32] <andrew_46> sleepy_cat: The file may be broken
[10:32] <sleepy_cat> hmm
[10:32] <kevin01> Good Eve
[10:32] <sleepy_cat> it works splendidly on winxp
[10:32] <andrew_46> sleepy_cat: So much for that idea then :)
[10:32] <ubuntunewbie> Anyone know how to fix font error ?
[10:32] <Tatzelbrumm> ok I will file a bug
[10:33] <sleepy_cat> damn.. have to use xp now :(
[10:33] <bazhang> sleepy_cat, for what
[10:33] <Valentina> erUSUL: I have heard that the files are mapped from encrypted to be seen decrypted after logging in, BUT that the files also are stored as encrypted. Then if I copy the encrypted (not decrypted) files from wherever they are stored then the encryption will stay on even in a tarball?
[10:33] <andrew_46> sleepy_cat: If you were keen I run an MPlayer guide for Hardy Heron which should play most files
[10:33] <sleepy_cat> bazhang: its a long story
[10:34] <bazhang> sleepy_cat, for dling and playing flv from youtube?
[10:34] <DarwinSurvivor> has anyone else had upgrade problems with eee's?
[10:34] <sleepy_cat> nope
[10:34] <erUSUL> Valentina: i guess so. but can not tell never used enciption myself
[10:34] <sleepy_cat> i downloaded a file.. which seems to work well on xp but gives problems in ubuntu
[10:34] <yareckon> ki guys, I was in the middle of an upgrade last night on my desktop machine and it failed on package alacarte, locking up the whole system.  What is the recommended way to recover from an upgrade failure like this if the computer now doesn't boot?
[10:34] <erUSUL> Valentina: and i do not know how easy is to restore encrypted file from a tarball
[10:34] <bazhang> sleepy_cat, download again with youtube-dl
[10:34] <andrew_46> sleepy_cat: Perhaps for later: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=558538
[10:34] <yareckon> erm, that would be "hi guys"
[10:35] <ariqs> iptables -I INPUT -s 94.23.197.115 -j DROP <-- why isn't this blocking that ip?  I have 94.23.197.115:80 in my iptraf log everywhere ... I'm really getting sick of thing, I can't even find a process with lsof -i that uses that ip, but it random chokes out my connection
[10:36] <yareckon> what is the recommended way of recovering from a bad upgrade?
[10:36] <rd1381> dragos: or this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=709672
[10:36] <dhalsimm> hi, is there any mailman and spamassassin user? I don't know how to deal with spams. Options are: deny, hold, reject, Preserve messages for the site administrator and forward messages. I guess I need to use sa-learn command but how?
[10:36] <yareckon> is there one?
[10:37] <tonyd> anyone know about debian?
[10:37] <erUSUL> !debian | tonyd
[10:37] <bazhang> tonyd, people in #debian
[10:37] <erUSUL> tonyd: probably in #debian
[10:37] <m0RrE> !ecryptfs | m0RrE
[10:38] <yareckon> tonyd, they are usually quite helpful over there in #debian
[10:38] <Valentina> erUSUL: Ok, well, I have to give it a try then bedfore I schedule it.
[10:38] <tonyd> well, I just want to know if anyone has ever used it, I want to know if maybe I will have more luck with it than ubuntu in getting it to install and work
[10:38] <Shtl> Hello all
[10:38] <yareckon> hi Shtl
[10:39] <sleepy_cat> how to enable sound in Virtual Box.. I have guest OS Windows XP
[10:39] <Valentina> What is the possibility to damage files using tarballs, it it a bad idea to backup data into tarballs that are later copied to another hard drive?
[10:40] <Shtl> yareckon: i upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10, and was well going but suddenly donno what happens its not fully booting to desktop, stoping at konsole login screen and in user login i lost all the previlages to mount pen drives and all
[10:40] <Shtl> even cant shutdown too
[10:41] <yareckon> Shtl, it's funny I#m here with the same problem actually
[10:41] <Shtl> ohh ok
[10:41] <boomer84> I've just been told that the ubuntuone-client v1.02 doesnt work on Karmic. Anyone know the best way for me to get aa different version? Rolling back is fine if it is the only option.
[10:41] <mka> Valentina: what do you mean? the tarball itself can be damaged and you cannot extract files inside it in some case cases
[10:41] <Tatzelbrumm> chtoopid question about filing a bug ... how do I find out what package to associate the bug with? touchpad buttons not swapping is probably caused by two programs from the multitude of applications between the GUI and the actual configuration file not understanding each other ...
[10:41] <yareckon> only been heree 10 mins and no one has been able to suggest a recovery strategy
[10:41] <mka> Valentina: I dont think it is possible to DAMAGE files by using tar
[10:41] <erUSUL> Valentina: if the file is not corrupted. ther is no risk. What i fear is that the encrypted home solution may layout encrypted files in non standar way or something
[10:41] <Shtl> they r not confident themselves
[10:41] <Asanka> Hi all, I have a company and i want to install ubuntu in all machines from the free ubuntu cd. Is this legally ok or I have to buy licenses for this? Thnaks
[10:41] <yareckon> I#m a pretty longtime linux user and could just reinstall, but I wanted to get advice on the best proactice way to recover
[10:42] <yareckon> Asanka, yes, goahead
[10:42] <erUSUL> Asanka: you can install in all computers you want ...
[10:42] <yareckon> you may want to look into buying desktop support from canonical... and of course backup your data first
[10:42] <mka> Asanka: it's ok
[10:42] <boomer84> Anyone?
[10:43] <Asanka> thanks all
[10:43] <erUSUL> yareckon: depends on the breakage i guess
[10:43] <Valentina> mka: Well, I mean that the files somehow gets corrupt placing them into a tarball.
[10:43] <yareckon> erUSUL, do recent live install disks have a repair isntallation option or something?
[10:43] <Valentina> erUSUL: Aha, ok.
[10:43] <boomer84> Anyone know where I can get a different version (not 1.02) of the ubuntuone client
[10:43] <yareckon> I'm downloading one as we speak, so I will know in 10 mins
[10:44] <erUSUL> Valentina: a tar compressed is just like a zip file. but it is unix compatible
[10:44] <ubuntunewbie> Anyone know how to fix font error ?
[10:44] <Valentina> Well, maybe I shall copy the files straight forward to my other hard drives not destrying my files using tarballs together with encrypted files.
[10:44] <erUSUL> !anyone
[10:44] <mka> Valentina: there are no chances (if you have all the permissions to access such file and is not encrypted)
[10:44] <yareckon> erUSUL, there needs to be a canonical (sic) way to recover from a mid upgrade bomb out
[10:45] <Valentina> mka: What about encrpted files than?
[10:45] <Valentina> *then
[10:45] <boomer84> ubottu: I am asking my real question
[10:45] <erUSUL> yareckon: you mean you get interrupted during upgrade? at which point ? dling files or installing ?
[10:45] <mka> Valentina: I am not sure about them that's why I cannot comment about them. I never used them before on ubuntu
[10:45] <yareckon> 2009-11-09 19:05:32,767 ERROR got an error from dpkg for pkg: 'alacarte': 'subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 139
[10:45] <yareckon> and then the gui freezes and the system no longer responded to mouse events
[10:46] <erUSUL> yareckon: sudo dpgk --reconfigure -a does not help ?
[10:46] <boomer84> seems to me people only like answering the complex questions so those of us trying to learn kinda get frozen out
[10:46] <yareckon> not possible....
[10:46] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL : My font error http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1301881
[10:46] <yareckon> now does not boot to usable shell, and at the time the mouse and keyboard were frozen
[10:46] <mka> boomer84: ask a question and be patient
[10:46] <rkumar_> xcfzszvbtr
[10:47] <erUSUL> boomer84: i've never used ubuntu one so i dunno a wit about it. but if you got meessed up with versions is becouse you upgraded the provided client by hand instead of using the one in the repositories
[10:47] <xt28> iceroot: i'm too lazy to check if anyone answered your rsync question yet, but i believe only root can create directory hardlinks. check man ln.
[10:47] <erUSUL> yareckon: not even recovery mode ?
[10:47] <yareckon> recovery also unfortunately
[10:47] <erUSUL> yareckon: chroot from a livecd ?
[10:47] <boomer84> erUSUL: thanks for that but you are wrong. I use the repositories for updates.
[10:48] <yareckon> ok, now we are talking.... and I have somethin to google for :)
[10:48] <yareckon> erUSUL, is there a guide you like for that?
[10:48] <erUSUL> boomer84: so; there is aclear bug ? have you reported it (or maybe is already known)?
[10:48] <erUSUL> boomer84: then you can try to force the install of an lder version...
[10:49] <rob_w> hi all
[10:49] <boomer84> I reported it to launchpad and yes they came back with an answer (or someone modified my original report) saying that version 1.02 doesn't work with Karmic but it is the only version available from the official repositories
[10:49] <iceroot> xt28: yeah that can be a problem, its a CIFS-share without being root
[10:49] <iceroot> xt28: thanks for the info
[10:49] <Valentina> mka: Ok, thanks anyway.
[10:49] <rob_w> i need to revert gdm into the plain theme in order to show a onscreen keyboard but the config options for gdm theme changes are gone !=!=
[10:50] <erUSUL> boomer84: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-one-client-package=knowngoodversion
[10:50] <erUSUL> yareckon: not usre... some guides for recovering grub use the chroot from livecd technique
[10:50] <boomer84> Cheers, I guess I should I uninstall the version I have now?
[10:50] <xt28> iceroot: no problem.
[10:51] <yareckon> thanks erUSUL, will try chrooting...
[10:51] <yareckon> would be sweet if the live cd could do soemthing like this automatically from a menu
[10:51] <erUSUL> yareckon: basically you mount the root parition in the livecd then mount --bind there the /proc/ /sys/ and /dev/ fs then chrrot to it
[10:52] <yareckon> hm... thanks for reminding me about /proc /sys /dev
[10:52] <erUSUL> yareckon: thebn use dpkg --reconfigre -a and the various aptitude commands to finish the upgrade
[10:53] <KrappiTheClown> #lukaug09
[10:54] <Idhan> hi, I can't mount a blank cd.. I get this error: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[10:54] <yareckon> cool, thank you.... will let you know how it goes, and write a howto
[10:54] <bassliner> ez, after upgrading to 9.10 the "DontZap" thing with xorg doesn't work anymore, i have the Option-line in xorg.conf and i got the dontzap package installed. any suggestions/help?
[10:54] <erUSUL> Idhan: blank cd can not be mounted. filesystems get mounted not media a blankcd has none
[10:55] <erUSUL> yareckon: ok ;)
[10:55] <Idhan> erUSUL: the problem is that brasero and k3b ask me for introduce a empty cd, but is there
[10:55] <mapreduce> Hi, I've done an apt-get dist-upgrade, and I see "udev: missing sysfs features; please update the kernel" and the filesystem fails to mount correctly.
[10:55] <erUSUL> Idhan: is a cdrw ? maybe you have to erase it first ?
[10:56] <Idhan> erUSUL: no.. is not, is normal cd-r
[10:56] <mapreduce> I get dropped to a shell with read-only access to the filesystem.  fsck fails to start, claiming that /dev/disk/by-uuid/some-id-or-other does not exist.
[10:56] <erUSUL> Idhan: out of ideas know.
[10:56] <erUSUL> mapreduce: what version of ubuntu/kernel ?
[10:56] <Gianlu24> !it
[10:57] <mapreduce> erUSUL: From an older version (jaunty I think) to karmic.
[10:59] <erUSUL> mapreduce: maybe you are using still jaunty kernel ? jaunty: 2.6.28 karmic: 2.6.31 make sure you select the correct one from grub
[10:59] <mataks> help pls i have audio problem when i upgrade to 9.10 ....
[10:59] <mapreduce> erUSUL: And linux 2.6.22 - ouch
[10:59] <klong> mataks what is the prob
[10:59] <mapreduce> erUSUL: Ok, but I cannot now boot the system, other than from an Ubuntu live CD.
[10:59] <erUSUL> mapreduce: 22 is ancient
[10:59] <mapreduce> How should I go about upgrading the kernel now?
[11:00] <mataks> kloeri,  there's no audio when i upgrade to 9.10 from 9.04
[11:00] <mapreduce> I can mount the drive read-write from the live CD with no problem.
[11:00] <erUSUL> mapreduce: then chroot to it and install the kernel
[11:01] <yareckon> kloeri, have you set the volume and unmuted it?
[11:01] <mataks> help pls.. i have no audio now when i upgrade to 9.10..
[11:01] <yareckon> for me on my laptop, karmic had everything at vol 0 and muted by default
[11:01] <erUSUL> mapreduce: sudo mount --bind /dev/ /mount/point/of/root/dev/ <<< repeat this for /proc/ and /sys/ then sudo chroot /mount/point/of/root/
[11:01] <yareckon> rebootin 4 chrootin
[11:02] <mapreduce> erUSUL: I see, thanks a lot.
[11:02] <erUSUL> mapreduce: once in there « aptitude install linux-image »
[11:02] <mapreduce> It's been >4 years since I've done this.
[11:02] <ffmpegps3horror> hiya, I was wondering where the best place to get Bash scripting support from (run under Ubuntu fwiw) is. Would that be the programming part of the Ubuntu Forums, or is there a better place do you know?? Cheers.
[11:03] <erUSUL> ffmpegps3horror: #bash
[11:03] <ffmpegps3horror> oh lol, I am SUCH a doofus :( cheers ;)
[11:03] <ffmpegps3horror> off to #bash
[11:03] <ffmpegps3horror> thx
[11:03] <ffmpegps3horror> bye
[11:03] <erUSUL> no problem
[11:04] <boomer84> erUSUL: Cheers for the help. it still isnt working but I am getting closer I think. Will keep on trying.
[11:04] <erUSUL> boomer84: no problem
[11:04] <Tommi> Ubuntu for life!!
[11:04] <Tommi> sorry
[11:04] <Bell_Labs> ubuntu is for a newbie
[11:04] <Bell_Labs> lol
[11:04] <Tommi> hehe
[11:04] <boomer84> it actually TRIED to connect this time! ;-)
[11:04] <Tommi> I like really like this OS
[11:04] <Tommi> err, just really like
[11:05] <Bell_Labs> Lol ubuntu is for people who were too stupid to use windows.
[11:05] <erUSUL> !ot | Bell_Labs
[11:05] <Tommi> Why do losers on the internet always want to make things about intelligence
[11:05] <Tommi> Please, we understand you didn't pass the 4th grade
[11:05] <Tommi> but please stop carrying this chip on your shoulder
[11:05] <Tommi> heh
[11:06] <mapreduce> Because people like you respond.
[11:06] <boomer84> Why do people bother replying to people who are trolling. That is what they wont, encouragement
[11:06]  * erUSUL raises his "do not feed the troll sign"
[11:06] <Tommi> Sorry:x
[11:06] <Bell_Labs> Tommi: I wouldn't talk about intelligence if you spell your name with an 'i'. You have the nick of a homosexual.
[11:06] <Tommi> Fair enough
[11:06] <erUSUL> !ops | Bell_Labs
[11:06] <Tommi> You guys were right, my fault.
[11:06] <Bell_Labs> We all know that homosexuals are unintelligent, even worse than women.
[11:06] <boomer84> Tommi: lol, thats what you get
[11:06] <Tommi> Indeed:)
[11:07] <Tommi> Lesson learned, eh
[11:07] <boomer84> hehe
[11:07] <boomer84> Sometimes it is fun to feed them though
[11:07] <DeaCon> My breakfast is good ;)
[11:07] <i_is_broke> does anyone know when they are going to open up, ubuntu+1?
[11:07] <boomer84> You know, kinda like scamming the 419ers
[11:07] <mapreduce> Ok, new kernel installed, afaict, except that I got "Errors were encountered while processing: fuse-utils"
[11:08] <erUSUL> back on topic; please
[11:08]  * mapreduce looks for the errors.
[11:08] <erUSUL> mapreduce: can you boot into the hard disk install ?
[11:09] <mapreduce> creating fuse group... udev active, skipping device node creation. reload: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[11:09] <mapreduce> erUSUL: I'll try momentarily.
[11:09] <mataks> i just upgraded to 9.10 and now i can't hear audio....
[11:09] <mapreduce> This client will stay up, it's elsewhere via screen.
[11:09] <Cyberkilla> Pidgin is still better than Empathy: (
[11:10] <Cyberkilla> I've had people I blocked months ago suddenly start talking to me again. Crazy.
[11:10] <erUSUL> Cyberkilla: none is forcing to use empathy. pidgin is on aptitude install away
[11:10] <mwallner> pidgin is good.. but there's one stupid thing about it..
[11:10] <mwallner> -> saving passwords as plain text
[11:10] <Cyberkilla> And telepathy-butterfly keeps crashing when I resume from hibernate
[11:10] <mataks> !sound
[11:10] <mwallner> I mean.. srysly.. wtf?
[11:10] <Cyberkilla> So I have to kill the process before I can use MSN accounts. No error message in Empathy. Just "connection failed", which is rather generic.
[11:11] <Jimi_Neutral> hey guys, im trying to install 8.10 on this laptop. It has XP on it already. It is an old laptop so I ran chkdsk on it and it reported no errors but when I try to install Ubuntu it comes up with an I/O error, dev 0, sector xxxxx
[11:11] <mwallner> right on this.. but pidgin just stupidly stores passwords as plain text.. I rather use empathy with gnome-keyring that crashes after resume ^^
[11:11] <Jimi_Neutral> any idea?
[11:11] <Cyberkilla> I've had to go back to Pidgin. Empathy does feel a bit more organised, but perhaps that is because it is missing a ton of features. For instance, you can't even do /topic or /nick in XMPP
[11:11] <Billiard> Jimi_Neutral: when exactly do you get this error
[11:12] <mataks> !mp3
[11:12] <Vero> iTunes 9.0.2.25 stopped
[11:12] <Cyberkilla> mwaller: I didn't know it stored passwords as plaintext. That's a bit risky, but then again, not so bad if nobody else uses your account
[11:12] <mwallner> that's right
[11:12] <Jimi_Neutral> Billiard, I have put the disc in to run ubuntu from the disc...i choose english, choose try ubuntu without installing, the prgress bar bounces back and forth a few times and then it does it
[11:13] <Billiard> Jimi_Neutral: check the cd for errors?
[11:13] <Billiard> Jimi_Neutral: check the iso download md5?
[11:13] <inivex> disk encryption is your friend
[11:13] <Jimi_Neutral> well this is an old disc, i have used it before to install ubuntu on the box i am talking to you from now
[11:13] <inivex> then you don't have to worry as much about the plaintext passwords
[11:13] <Jimi_Neutral> so the md5 is ok
[11:13] <user1> where do i see my webcam in karmic?
[11:14] <Billiard> Jimi_Neutral: disc is bad then probably, has nothing to do with the hard drive as the live cd shouldnt be using it at that point
[11:14] <mwallner> @Cyberkilla: check ~/.purple/accounts.xml ;)
[11:14] <mwallner> @Cyberkilla: .. that's the reason I dislike pidgin
[11:14] <Cyberkilla> A couple of years ago, I really thought Jabber was going to replace IRC. It hasn't happened though, and the reason is simple: It is too complicated to do multi-user chat and there are only a handful of decent clients, each supporting only a portion of the total functionality.
[11:14] <^cicciuzzo^> Un Saluto a tutti «  #ubuntu » [Þrison-ßreak][§cript]       
[11:14] <^cicciuzzo^> ÇÏÅØøØø
[11:14] <^cicciuzzo^> !list
[11:14] <mwallner> @Cyberkilla: otherwise I'd say it's "better" than empathy
[11:14] <Jimi_Neutral> Billiard, ah ok, ty then...good job im downloading koala...i just wanted to get the disc wiped and partitioned while i was waiting for koala to finsih downloading
[11:15] <Jimi_Neutral> Billiard, ty for your help...oh hang on
[11:15] <Cyberkilla> mwallner: It will get there in the end, but it does feel like the replacement came too soon.
[11:15] <Jimi_Neutral> Billiard, its loading other bits ok but some bits im still getting an i/o error on
[11:15] <Billiard> Jimi_Neutral: what other bits
[11:15] <mwallner> Cyberkilla: u're right on this one
[11:15] <MannyPacquiao> whats up cotto
[11:16] <Jimi_Neutral> Billiard, you know when you start from the disc it lists a load of processes with [ok]
[11:16] <user1> where do i see my webcam in karmic?
[11:16] <mwallner> user1: install "Cheese"
[11:16] <Billiard> Jimi_Neutral: yeah, im guessing parts of the disc are unreadable
[11:17] <user1> mwallner: are you surE?
[11:17] <Jimi_Neutral> Billiard, hmm it seems to be booting into the desktop fine
[11:17] <user1> mwallner: it's detected with green light
[11:17] <Jimi_Neutral> Billiard, very odd
[11:17] <user1> mwallner: but nowhere to see it
[11:17] <mwallner> user1: green light?
[11:17] <user1> mwallner: on cam
[11:17] <maxwellion> hello ubuntuers
[11:17] <mwallner> user1: oh, you already started cheese?
[11:17] <mwallner> hey @ maxwellion
[11:18] <maxwellion> is there a place I can get help for some ubuntu things
[11:18] <Cyberkilla> mwallner: http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/PlainTextPasswords They do have a point, especially considering they can't use a one-way hash. They would have to be able to retrieve the passsword. If they do that, it will be in pidgin's source and probably rather easy to circumvent.
[11:18] <mwallner> just ask, maybe we can help you
[11:18] <Billiard> maxwellion: here
[11:18] <Valentina> How do I do to connect a new hard drive to my Ubuntu Server and then make it avaiable to my user every time I log in? (like auto-mounting it)
[11:18] <maxwellion> subject: software raid
[11:18] <Billiard> Valentina: you want it mounted on startup?
[11:18] <mwallner> Cyberkilla: they should use "crypt" function
[11:18] <mwallner> -> rly easy done..
[11:18] <mapreduce> I cannot boot, I get told that /dev/disk/by-uuid/some-id does not exist.  I just got told to upgrade my kernel here, it's now linux-2.6.31-14, but that appears to have made little difference.
[11:19] <mapreduce> Any suggestions?
[11:19] <^cicciuzzo^> Un Saluto a tutti «  #ubuntu » [Þrison-ßreak][§cript]       
[11:19] <thanius> How do I add kernel options to grub 2
[11:19] <thanius> ?
[11:19] <maxwellion> I have ubuntu installed on a 40gb disk, I have additional 2 x 500gb drives I want to software raid an existing partition
[11:19] <^cicciuzzo^> ÇÏÅØøØø
[11:19] <^cicciuzzo^> !list
[11:19] <mwallner> Cyberkilla: i already tried to implement it myself.. but I'm not very home in the purple-libs ^^
[11:19] <maxwellion> I tried gui, with palimpsest and mdadm (don't know what to do with it)
[11:19] <Cyberkilla|AFK> : )
[11:20] <user1> mwallner:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=d7eac7f9b1b26a76bf02b3c2116e9c5f&t=1312006&page=2
[11:20] <Cyberkilla|AFK> I'm not very savvy to encryption, but it seems to me that encrypting something requires a key of some sort. In Pidgin, wouldn't that key be rather easy to find? It's open source after all.
[11:20] <user1> mwallner: cheese not needed
[11:20] <Cyberkilla|AFK> The keyring only works because you unlock it by entering your pw at login
[11:20] <maxwellion> any ideas on my raid problemo?
[11:21] <mwallner> maxwellion: this article is a good one.. you'd probably check it out: http://advosys.ca/viewpoints/2007/04/setting-up-software-raid-in-ubuntu-server/
[11:21] <maxwellion> thanks
[11:21] <epinky> maxwellion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/RAID1%2BLVM
[11:22] <[Gloom]> hi
[11:22] <Cyberkilla|AFK> brb
[11:22] <Jimi_Neutral> Billiard, nah its hung on the plain brown screen after username....oh well lol
[11:22] <maxwellion> my issue is, I already have data on the disks
[11:22] <maxwellion> one of the disks, the other is blank
[11:22] <maxwellion> but has exactly the same partition strucutre
[11:23] <Billiard> Jimi_Neutral: try the check disc option?
[11:23] <Billiard> Jimi_Neutral: or do ubuntu cds not have that anymore
[11:23] <mwallner> maxwellion: you'd better back-up all your data before setting up raid..
[11:23] <user1> mwallner: why is cheese so unresolute
[11:23] <maxwellion> jeez
[11:23] <user1> mwallner: all dots allover
[11:23] <maxwellion> ok I'll leave it for another day
[11:23] <Jimi_Neutral> Billiard, i think 8.10 does, yeah i will try that
[11:23] <maxwellion> thanks guys
[11:23] <epinky> maxwellion: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=408461
[11:24] <mwallner> user1: sorry, don't know.. it works fine for me .. which webcam-chip do you have?
[11:24] <user1> mwallner : logitech
[11:24] <mwallner> user1: quickcam?
[11:24] <user1> mwallner : yes
[11:25] <mwallner> user1: lol .. I've also got a quickcam .. mine works fine.. sorry.. don't know what's going wrong @ u
[11:25] <mwallner> user1: can u give me the output of your lsusb -> the correct line?
[11:25] <user1> mwallner : Bus 002 Device 005: ID 046d:092f Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Express Plus
[11:26] <maxwellion> thanks for the forum linjk, seems the most complete
[11:26] <mwallner> user1: check out qce-ga
[11:26] <mwallner> user1: this could probably help you: http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/
[11:27] <user1> mwallner : ok .let me see
[11:27] <mwallner>  
[11:27] <user1> actually i installed qc-usb-source
[11:27] <user1> mwallner
[11:27] <user1> but no use
[11:28] <shabda> I createda  new particion in Gparted, it shows up on Gparted as /dev/sda2, but I cant cd to it, do I need to mount it?
[11:28] <epinky> maxwellion: you've got to create a /dev/md0 device and add one by one (to this device) your disks
[11:28] <MenZa> !fstab | Valentina
[11:29] <MenZa> Oh dear, I was scrolled up. Sorry Valentina :)
[11:29] <erUSUL> shabda: yes
[11:29] <shabda> Is there a gui way to do it?
[11:29] <MenZa> Valentina: I read your support request from several minutes ago.
[11:29] <Digitalfiz> is there silverlight for ubuntu?
[11:30] <Swathe> gnome do?
[11:30] <erUSUL> shabda: Places>Computer double click on the volume
[11:30] <shabda> Digitalfiz: yes, Moonlight
[11:30] <erUSUL> Digitalfiz: moonlight done with mono. check its website
[11:30] <Digitalfiz> has anyone got netflix to work in ubuntu?
[11:30] <Darshan> hello
[11:30] <theTroy> what can I use to login as a another user in a window under my current user?
[11:31] <erUSUL> theTroy: terminal ? « su otheruser »
[11:31] <theTroy> erUSUL: in a window
[11:31] <theTroy> erUSUL: so I can see his desktop etc
[11:32] <erUSUL> theTroy: you want to see the shole desktop of another user in a window in your desktop ?
[11:32] <erUSUL> whole*
[11:32] <erUSUL> theTroy: dunno if its is possible with xnest. research a little
[11:33] <erUSUL> theTroy: or maybe with a local vnc connection ...
[11:33] <theTroy> xnest you say? yes will try that
[11:33] <mapreduce> erUSUL: It wouldn't boot, which I think is related to fuse-utils' errors.  I've removed fuse-utils, am doing a bit of sitting around while apt-get dist-upgrade continues, then I'll see.
[11:33] <epinky> theTroy: dapper ?
[11:34] <Rods_Tiger> what is the point of e-zipupdate? it just updates my dynamic dns thing with my 192.168. address, so nobody can see it
[11:35] <theTroy> erUSUL: how to use xnest? (what command)
[11:40] <erUSUL> theTroy: i really dunno; that's why i asked you to research... :) never used it myself
[11:42] <boomer84> take care all
[11:42] <Billiard> Rods_Tiger: nothing to do with your internal ip
[11:43] <erUSUL> theTroy: http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Running_multiple_X11_sessions
[11:43] <theTroy> tyvm!
[11:43] <Tatzelbrumm> !bug | Tatzelbrumm
[11:43] <friendishan_> my evolution mail is not starting up.
[11:43] <Billiard> friendishan_: the error?
[11:44] <junior_> bye
[11:44] <ibmx61> hi,everybody
[11:44] <friendishan_> Billiard : It dosen't give any error it does say starting evolution mail
[11:44] <friendishan_> Billiard : and goes off.
[11:45] <friendishan_> Billiard : Problem from today onwards
[11:45] <Billiard> friendishan_: run it from a terminal and see if it has an error
[11:45] <friendishan_> Billiard : how?
[11:45] <MannyPacquiao> zZz
[11:45] <Billiard> open a terminal then evolution or somethin, type evolution and hit tab twice if that doesnt work
[11:46] <friendishan_> Billiard : that didn't work
[11:47] <mapreduce> erUSUL: All done. :)
[11:47] <Billiard> what happens when you hit tab twice? does it give some possibilities
[11:47] <erUSUL> !yay | mapreduce
[11:47] <Billiard> friendishan_: ^^
[11:47] <wrchiu> exit
[11:47] <tox> ciao a tutti
[11:47] <friendishan_> Billiard : lol
[11:47] <bazhang> !it | tox
[11:48] <friendishan_> !terminal | friendishan
[11:48] <Billiard> friendishan_: what happens when you run the command evolution
[11:49] <friendishan_> Billiard : nothing it just starts and when i type evolution and press enter it goes to the next line
[11:50] <Billiard> friendishan_: "it just starts" ?
[11:50] <friendishan_> ywa
[11:50] <friendishan_> yea*
[11:50] <Billiard> friendishan_: what just starts
 terminal
[11:52] <Billiard> friendishan_: idk, no more ideas
[11:52] <Serendippo> xchat-gnome seems to be crashing after 6 days: all icons disappeared. Is there a way to bring the icons back without having to restart xchat-gnome?
 searches on google
[11:53] <epinky> friendishan_: it'be better to kill evolution and try to start it again
[11:53] <friendishan_> how do i start evolution mail from terminal
[11:53] <Jimi_Neutral> i dont understand this....i have just downloaded koala from the ubuntu site but the MD5 check sums are different, this one isnt in the list
 how?
[11:53] <epinky> are you on terminal?
[11:53] <epinky> friendishan_: are you on terminal?
[11:53] <friendishan_> yup
[11:54] <epinky> friendishan_: "cd /usr/lib/evolution/"
[11:54] <friendishan_> bash: cd /usr/lib/evolution/: No such file or directory
[11:54] <epinky> friendishan_: "cd /usr/libexec/evolution/"
[11:54] <mwallner> lol
[11:55] <mwallner> firendishan_: try sudo apt-get install evolution
[11:55] <mwallner> oh.. my bad
[11:55] <mwallner> forget it
[11:55] <epinky> lol
[11:56] <guntbert> Jimi_Neutral: then there was an error in the download - consider using a !torrent
[11:56] <lao5> ubuntu下看gif图片不是动态的阿
[11:56] <lao5> 有没有办法解决？。
[11:56] <jrib> !cn | lao5
[11:56] <mataks> help pls i have problem with my audio when i upgrade to 9.10. .... when i play mp3 files it's ok but when i open another application that will play audio like youtube.... the audio messes up. .
[11:57] <Billiard> mataks: is it just flash that does it?
[11:57] <mwallner> mataks: try "sudo apt-get install pulse alsa"
[11:57] <Jimi_Neutral> guntbert, i have moved it over from the download folder to the desktop too quick, my bad, ty anyway
[11:58] <mataks> Billiard, not just flash.. even when i play games..
[11:58] <mwallner> check if you're running alsa/pulse ..
[11:58] <guntbert> Jimi_Neutral: np - its always better to ask :-)
[11:58] <tarelerulz1> My screensave don't work when the screen is clear (desktop) ,but works when I am watching youtube vidoes .  how might I fix that (Ubuntu 9.10)
[11:58] <lao5> sorry, i made a mistake.
[11:59] <friendishan_> epinky : bash: cd /usr/libexec/evolution/: No such file or directory
[11:59] <Jimi_Neutral> guntbert, :)
[12:00] <friendishan_> epinky would rebooting help?
[12:00] <epinky> friendishan_: try to locate "killev" file -> "sudo find / -name killev"
[12:00] <Gianlu24> !it
[12:01] <friendishan_> cd /usr/lib/evolution/ this command gave something else
[12:01] <criss> hi there ya'll i have ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS at the moment ... i am busy downloading 9.10 right now ... are there any special upgrading "rules" i need to take into concideration?? or can i just install it from the cd ? and voila...
[12:01] <friendishan_> epinky : /usr/lib/evolution$
[12:02] <jrib> !upgrade > criss
[12:02] <bazhang> criss, fresh install?
[12:02] <jrib> criss: those are directions to upgrade.  If you want to do a fresh intall, then just back up and install
[12:02] <erUSUL> criss: you can not skip versions so you will have to do 6.06.1 LTS --> 8.04 LTS --> 8.10 --> 9.04 --> 9.10 or do a clean install
[12:02] <epinky> friendishan_: then enter your version of evolution /usr/lib/evolution-2.xx enter that directory
[12:02] <friendishan_> epinky : i donno
[12:03] <friendishan_> epinky : should i try re-booting?
[12:03] <epinky> friendishan_: cd /usr/lib
[12:03] <criss> okay cool guys ... well 9.10 is already done so i guess i'll just do a clean install then thanks guys .. im kinda new to ubuntu
[12:03] <theadmin> help. My java is no longer working. Whatever i do.
[12:03] <criss> how stable is 9.10 at the moment? should i have rather went for 9.04 in the meantime?
[12:03] <jrib> theadmin: "no longer working"?
[12:03] <mosta> criss u r new in ubuntu ?
[12:03] <erUSUL> criss: you can wait for 10.04 that is a LTS too and do 6.06.1 --> 8.04 --> 10.04
[12:03] <friendishan_> epinky : /usr/lib$
[12:04] <theadmin> jrib: It kinda dissapeared out of firefox plugin list :/
[12:04] <epinky> friendishan_: ls -l evolution*
[12:04] <jrib> theadmin: once an ubuntu version is released, it's stable in the sense that only major bug fixes and security updates are done
[12:04] <friendishan_> epinky : it performed something
[12:04] <criss> yeah mosta i am new lol
[12:04] <epinky> friendishan_: what do you have?
[12:04] <jrib> theadmin: what ubuntu version?
[12:04] <theadmin> jrib: I installed one from Software Center, it's NOT working. I installed the "Sun" one obviously. Ubuntu 9.10
[12:04] <friendishan_> epinky : many lines saying something
[12:05] <friendishan_> epinky : last line says  /usr/lib$
[12:05] <epinky> friendishan_: could you post results of "ls -l evolution*" ?
[12:05] <jrib> theadmin: pastebin: apt-cache policy sun-java6-plugin; dpkg -L sun-java6-plugin    and the contents of "about:plugins" when you enter it in your browser
[12:06] <friendishan_> epinky : i guess i PM'd you that
[12:06] <theadmin> jrib: Be right back :P gotta switch that thing to english for results to make any sense
[12:06] <epinky> friendishan_: cd evolution-webcal
[12:06] <jrib> theadmin: just prefix... argh
[12:07] <friendishan_> epinky: /usr/lib/evolution-webcal$
[12:07] <epinky> friendishan_: post results of "ls -l "  on that directory
[12:08] <friendishan_> all of them which i Pm'd you epinky
[12:08] <epinky> friendishan_: execute "ls -l" again
[12:09] <friendishan_> epinky : this time it just said a li'l
[12:09] <friendishan_> total 28
[12:09] <friendishan_> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 26556 2009-03-18 15:32 evolution-webcal
[12:10] <Shay27> Hello , does it possible to install on Ubuntu windows games ? such call of duty etc.. ? what packages i should install to get the best results ?
[12:11] <bazhang> Shay27, check the appdb
[12:11] <bazhang> !appdb | Shay27
[12:11] <mkulke> hello, i need to compile my own kernel, is it possible to somehow get the stock ubuntu kernel configuration file, so i don't have to do everything manually?
[12:12] <theadmin> Okay, here's what i've got http://codepad.org/7uqk3OOG
[12:12] <Younder> Rythm box not working, movie player not working,  configuration manager not working.. What is going on here? I see a systemic error.
[12:13] <ruby_3> will there be anything wrong if i install ubuntu on any windows with wubi and then install fedora on it will i able to boot ubuntu?
[12:13] <Younder> same grub
[12:14] <theadmin> jrib: So? Any ideas? http://codepad.org/7uqk3OOG is what the command output was
[12:14] <Younder> but don't chain them
[12:14] <Younder> You would have t to edit the config
[12:14] <jrib> theadmin: you didn't pastebin the "about:plugins"  part
[12:14] <rashamra> nt sure if any1 else is having dis prob but ever since i installed 9.10 i can't seem to add any add-ons to firefox 3.5
[12:14] <suleman> how do i execute files on ubuntu
[12:15] <iceroot> suleman: ./file
[12:15] <iceroot> suleman: and use chmod +x if it is not executable
[12:15] <Younder> suleman, you don't, that's a windows thing you run them
[12:15] <MenZa> rashamra: That line might be difficult for someone who doesn't have English as their first language to understand. Try to speak coherently in at least semi-correct English for everyone to be able to understand :)
[12:16] <rashamra> not sure if anyone else is having the problem I'm having but ever since i installed 9.10 i can't seem to add any add-ons to firefox 3.5
[12:16] <iceroot> rashamra: erros?
[12:16] <suleman> i m not being able to install matlab
[12:16] <nicolas_> grub boot loader will not install to target on 9.10 install ... help
[12:17] <iceroot> nicolas_: errors?
[12:17] <Younder> suleman, that is proprietary, the opensource version is octave
[12:17] <KaMikaZzi> hello.... I have a question... how can I get back to gnome after droping to tty?? I've tried /etc/init.d/gdm stop/start....
[12:17] <m0RrE> is it possible to add another partition to ecryptfs to be automounted at login?
[12:17] <theadmin> jrib: Java is not there... I'll just list what i see, otherwise it'll be a mess ;)
[12:18] <[DeVil-BoY]> hello guys
[12:18] <theadmin> jrib: http://codepad.org/WHrOdkWn (there)
[12:18] <Younder> suleman, take it up with mathlab help
[12:18] <jrib> theadmin: just pastebin everything please
[12:18] <suleman> Younder, wats octave
[12:18] <[DeVil-BoY]> i'm trying to setup google calendar with thunderbird
[12:18] <suleman> Younder, i have got the backup file of matlab for ubuntu
[12:18] <[DeVil-BoY]> but when i installed the provider extension for thunderbirf
[12:18] <[DeVil-BoY]> but when i installed the provider extension for thunderbird
[12:18] <nicolas_> iceroot: it makes it to 94% of the install and says:  the grub package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot
[12:18] <theadmin> jrib: Okay... http://codepad.org/Uwp5DUPh (but it's a MESS)
[12:18] <[DeVil-BoY]> it sayd additional items required
[12:18] <suleman> i used ./install
[12:18] <iceroot> [DeVil-BoY]: use lighning with google-provider (addon) and please change your nick not starting with [
[12:18] <suleman> but didnt work
[12:18] <rashamra> iceroot: Firefox could not install the file at https://addons.mozilla.org/(source of add-on) because: Invalid file hash (possible download corruption) -261
[12:18] <Younder> A limited version of mahlab (only interpreted) which is open source
[12:19] <Devil-boy> i have lighting
[12:19] <Devil-boy> but it still says need additional items
[12:19] <jrib> theadmin: I don't really know how the -plugin package does its thing, so we'll play a bit.  sudo aptitude purge sun-java6-plugin && sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin
[12:19] <iceroot> Devil-boy: then browse the thunderbird-addon page for google-calender-provider
[12:19] <Younder> suleman, It's available through the package manager, just search for octave
[12:19] <KaMikaZzi> hello.... I have a question... how can I get back to gnome after droping to tty?? I've tried /etc/init.d/gdm stop/start....
[12:19] <iceroot> nicolas_: is it a raid?
[12:19] <KaMikaZzi> anyone??
[12:19] <iceroot> KaMikaZzi: errors while typing that?
[12:19] <suleman> Younder, n wats octave exactly
[12:19] <Devil-boy> iceroot what will i be looking for?
[12:20] <nicolas_> iceroot: yes, but I went in and disabled the jmicron controller thinking that might cause problems
[12:20] <iceroot> Devil-boy: googler-provider as i said
[12:20] <iceroot> Devil-boy: google-provider
[12:20] <Fish-Face> Hi, I suffered a system failure, so I've restored my machine from a backup. Foolishly I didn't copy permissions over when I backed up
[12:20] <nicolas_> iceroot: that was set to "ide"
[12:20] <KaMikaZzi> I don't think so, it gives me some errors after I try the gdm start cmd
[12:20] <iceroot> nicolas_: so its no raid?
[12:20] <Fish-Face> So does anyone know how to work out who should own what, and how to setuid things that need to be setuid'd
[12:20] <Younder> suleman, It is mostly mathlab compatible, but more limited
[12:20] <rycrostud> Hi Guys.  I'm trying to find a yum repo with at least version 4.9p1 of OpenSSH but I'm struggling.  Any suggestions?
[12:21] <iceroot> KaMikaZzi: what about posting that errors?
[12:21] <om26er> !lol
[12:21] <nicolas_> iceroot: i think it may have been, but disabling the controller I thought made it not?
[12:21] <iceroot> rycrostud: yum is opensuse
[12:21] <om26er> rycrostud: or fedora
[12:21] <Empty_foo> yast is opensuse
[12:21] <Younder> suleman, Many perfer Python and numpy instead
[12:21] <iceroot> Empty_foo: yum also
[12:22] <KaMikaZzi> iceroot: alright... but I'll have to restart the pc, as I won't be able to reset gnome ;p
[12:22] <KaMikaZzi> BRB
[12:22] <Empty_foo> no, yum is rh   suse is debian based
[12:22] <iceroot> rycrostud: dont use suse-repositorys or rpm with ubuntu
[12:22] <nicolas_> iceroot: also I have two HDD drives, but when I install it just shows one mapper drive and it is the size of both my drives combined
[12:22] <iceroot> Empty_foo: suse is not debian based
[12:22] <om26er> Empty_foo: suse is what
[12:22] <Younder> Yes, ubuntu is a subset of debian
[12:23] <jrib> Younder: superset, no?
[12:23] <xukun> I can play youtube films. I radder use only free software if that is possible. I,m using Karmic 64bits. Any help would greatly be appreciated
[12:23] <Empty_foo> ahh..  i new one of them was
[12:23] <theadmin> jrib: Output: http://codepad.org/odb7h1BL
[12:23] <xukun> I can not ..
[12:23] <Lint> how can I manage disk quotas? it doesn't allow me use the whole disk
[12:23] <iceroot> xukun: you can try gnash, its a free flash player
[12:23] <Younder> jrib, subset, most of the developement tools are missing
[12:23] <jrib> Younder: no they aren't...
[12:24] <jrib> theadmin: are you on amd64 or i386?
[12:24] <MurielGodoi> hi all< i just add usbcore.autosuspend=1 in etc/default/grub but powetop keep asking me to enable that. What I miss?
[12:24] <theadmin> jrib: i386
[12:25] <Younder> They are easilly aquired through a sudo apt-get install <whatever>, so it isn't much of a problem
[12:25] <nicolas_> iceroot: in gparted my two HDDs are listed as unallocated while the third option is called dev/mapper/nvidia
[12:25] <nicolas_> iceroot: not sure what the mapper thing even is
[12:25] <jrib> theadmin: let me install it here so I can see what's going on
[12:25] <iceroot> nicolas_: then it is raid, so use the alternate cd, the normal cd cant handle raids (without using mdraid at live-cd)
[12:25] <torocatala> hi
[12:25] <jrib> Younder: oh, you mean a desktop install.  I see
[12:25] <torocatala> i have a problem
[12:25] <iceroot> nicolas_: mapper = raid
[12:25] <torocatala> whit a script
[12:25] <torocatala> in bash
[12:25] <FloodBot1> torocatala: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:25] <iceroot> !enter | torocatala
[12:26] <torocatala> ok, sorry
[12:26] <nicolas_> iceroot: is that on the ubuntu site?
[12:26] <iceroot> nicolas_: yes
[12:26] <Younder> jrib, oh - you have the server version..
[12:26] <iceroot> !alternate | nicolas_
[12:26] <torocatala> I do script to eliminate some files of some folders. When i do manually, it works perfectly, but when I run the script, fails
[12:26] <nicolas_> iceroot: thanks
[12:26] <jrib> Younder: no, I was just speaking about how the repositories compared; what's available instead of what's default
[12:27] <iceroot> torocatala: its because of the working directory
[12:27] <Take0n> How do I see the running processes?
[12:27] <jrib> Take0n: system -> administration -> system monitor
[12:27] <iceroot> torocatala: use absolute paths, not realtiv paths or set the working directory
[12:27] <iceroot> Take0n: top (on shell)
[12:27] <torocatala> iceroot, i try whit absolute path already and fails
[12:27] <rycrostud> Thanks.  I'm not looking for an RPM, but a yum repo that has a more up to date version of OpenSSH available.
[12:27] <Take0n> thanks jrib and iceroot
[12:27] <MurielGodoi> Hi guys,  how can I enable usb autosuspend as default in my 9.10?
[12:28] <Younder> jrib, ubuntu is minimalistic. And then you add as you go. Debian contains the lot. Including a lot you wil never use.
[12:28] <iceroot> torocatala: use set -x in script, to enable debbunging for the bash
[12:28] <torocatala> thx iceroot
[12:29] <rapha> Hi!
[12:29] <rapha> Where can I get libstdc++.so.5 for Ubuntu 9.10?
[12:30] <Take0n> Hm.. I am running tilda and I want to set it's transparency through compiz.. I go to Opacity settings in compiz and add name=tilda and value 10. I played around with value but nothing changes.. I do the same for gnome-panel using name=gnome-panel value 10 and it works just fine
[12:30] <theadmin> jrib: And it ain't helping!... Bleh! Can it be my current firefox does not support this java? Though i tried one from java.com too, allright.
[12:30] <Lint> how can I change the reserved space for users on hard drive?
[12:30] <epinky> rapha: http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/libstdc++5
[12:30] <jrib> theadmin: can you make sure you have libnpjp2.so as part of sun-java6-bin in your filesystem?
[12:31] <jrib> Lint: tune2fs
[12:31] <syn-ack> hey guys. I
[12:31] <syn-ack> err
[12:31] <bibinou> rapha: looks like the libstdc++5 package is the way to go http://packages.ubuntu.com/fr/hardy/libstdc++5
[12:32] <MannyPacquiao> how to make my themes transparent
[12:32] <rapha> epinky: bibinou: thanks, merci!
[12:32] <syn-ack> Hey guys, I'm having an issue here and I would like to know if anyone would be able to help me. instead of posting the issue in here I have in forums post and I'd like to post here so you can ref it and see if you have the fix.
[12:32] <Ph3nix> plop
[12:32] <syn-ack> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8285225#post8285225
[12:32] <torocatala> maybe when i run rm -R in a script they put off the shopt dotglob ? i'm trying to delete hide files
[12:32] <theadmin> jrib: As you wish... result: http://codepad.org/5G1Pm46M
[12:32] <torocatala> i can do manually
[12:32] <jrib> theadmin: make sure it exists?
[12:33] <Ph3nix> o
[12:33] <zaoul> I have a VT capable Intel cpu, a VT capable and enabled motherboard yet when I boot the 64 live cd, /proc/cpu info does not show vmx or svm (forgot which one is Intel) what gives?
[12:33] <zaoul> ..karmic
[12:33] <theadmin> jrib: Uh, if locate finds it, it does... but okay, i'll go there with nautilus if that's what you want.
[12:33] <jrib> theadmin: isn't locate cached in some way?
[12:33]  * Ph3nix oo
[12:34] <torocatala> but the script shows "No such file or directory" like the if shopt dotglob are off
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> locate uses a database that can get out of date also.
[12:35] <torocatala> ok, fixed it adding "shopt -s dotglob" at the top of the script LOL
[12:35] <theadmin> jrib: It exists.
[12:35] <jrib> theadmin: and /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so ?
[12:35] <theadmin> so, once again... to make it clear, i updated firefox with Ubuntuzilla. Could that be the problem?
[12:36] <theadmin> jrib: this one does not exist.
[12:36] <jrib> theadmin: hrmm, what does "locate javaplugin.so" return if anything?  I'm on an amd64 debian install so some details may be different
[12:37] <KaMikaZzi> can someone please take a look at this error I get when trying to restart gnome from tty (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start): http://pastebin.com/m1eeb9f05
[12:37] <jrib> theadmin: if that's not fruitful, pastebin /var/lib/dpkg/info/sun-java6-plugin.postinst
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> KaMikaZzi:  on 9.10 use 'sudo service gdm start'
[12:38] <Younder> I have the problem tat Tkinter is installed in 6.4 version an the rest in a 6.2 version. How do I move it?
[12:38] <KaMikaZzi> alright thx
[12:38] <KaMikaZzi> guess I forgot root >.<
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> KaMikaZzi:  upstart changes things. best to always use the service command
[12:38] <aperson> is there a way to configure my thumb buttons on my mouse so they *don't* go back and forward?
[12:39] <Younder> ln -s bit etc.
[12:39] <jrib> aperson: bind them to something else using for example xbindkeys or imwheel
[12:39] <Younder> but are there any ansty side effects?
[12:39] <Younder> nasty
[12:40] <theadmin> jrib: That thing: http://codepad.org/nhSWre2Z ... The "locate" results in: http://codepad.org/bsBT1GbM
[12:40] <eddym> guys i download the tar how do i do this part tar xf tip.tar.bz2 && cd gspca-*
[12:40] <eddym> downloaded
[12:41] <DarwinSurvivor> is the netbook remix "menu" system available for non-debian machines?
[12:41] <jrib> theadmin: cool, and « readlink -f /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins/libjavaplugin.so » points to the libnpjp2.so from before?
[12:41] <theadmin> jrib: Yepp.
[12:41] <xukun> iceroot, thanks. would gnash also work with chrome browser?
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> eddym:  the && is  makign it 2 differnt commands. if the first command succedss, the 2 command is ran
[12:42] <indus> xukun: try swfdec , its much better
[12:42] <iceroot> xukun: i dont know, never used gnash but if i am correct its not working 100%
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> eddym:  you could install/use 'unp' instead of tar -x whatever also...
[12:42] <aperson> jrib, where is whatever is binding them now?  in 9.04, when I bound them via compiz, that overrided them, now it doesn't globally
[12:42] <jrib> theadmin: alright, I'm going to assume the default firefox checks /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins for plugins.  Are you running the firefox from the repositories?
[12:42] <indus> iceroot: swfdec is a  good option
[12:42] <jarod51> Hi
[12:42] <Younder> flash under crome is non functional in my Chrome beta
[12:42] <iceroot> indus: also on 64bit?
[12:42] <jrib> aperson: don't know
[12:42] <indus> iceroot: yes
[12:42] <theadmin> jrib: Nope. Installed via a python script that gave me the most recent version.
[12:43] <indus> iceroot: always had a 64bit
[12:43] <Younder> appart from that it is fine
[12:43] <jarod51> I need some help to install adobe air 64bits under karmic koala please :)
[12:43] <iceroot> !info swfdec jaunty
[12:43] <mosta> samba is sucks
[12:43] <iceroot> mosta: you have a question?
[12:43] <Younder> fastest browser ever, particularly on complex web pages
[12:44] <eddym> dr_willis:unp is like unpacker
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> !air
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> !info unp
[12:44] <jrib> theadmin: ah, well that explains it... heh.  There's not much point in doing that.  If you use the repository version, you don't have to worry about updates since update-manager takes care of that.  But if you insist on keeping this version just create a symlink to that .so from the plugins/ folder in the directory of the new firefox
[12:44] <mwallner> :D talking about chrome ?
[12:44] <theadmin> jrib: funny thing is i can't FIND that new firefox.
[12:44] <mwallner> I just installed "chromium" .. pretty nice.. like it even more than chrome =)
[12:44] <jcrawford> damn i can't seem to get Ubuntu to run on my mac pro, even tried formatting the entire drive without OS X being installed :(
[12:45] <mosta> sharing people !!!
[12:45] <mwallner> try firefox-3.5
[12:45] <mosta> i wanna share How!!
[12:45] <iceroot> !doesnotwork | jcrawford
[12:45] <Younder> Mwallner: yes
[12:45] <jcrawford> iceroot yea well it won't boot at all lol
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> I just right click on a driectory and use the shareing feature :) it worked here.. and suprised me that it did work
[12:45] <tigertiger> hi
[12:45] <mwallner> Younder: I like chromium.. it's really fast!
[12:45] <mosta> hii
[12:45] <jrib> theadmin: readlink -f $(which firefox)
[12:45] <iceroot> jcrawford: post details, errors and so on. how should anyone help you?
[12:46] <jcrawford> i can get it to be seen by rEFIt when I have OS X installed and try a dual boot but when Grub loads it does so to a flasing _ cursor
[12:46] <jcrawford> or i get the grub prompt
[12:46] <mwallner> Youder: but there's just this daily repo.. but I guess it's really stable.. is has never crashed up to now ^^
[12:46] <jcrawford> but never have i gotten Ubuntu to load unless I installed under VM
[12:46] <eddym> dr_willis: did the unp now how do i use it
[12:46] <Valentina> MenZa: Yeah, thank you, I had to do some things. Ok, I'll look into the links you provided here.
[12:46] <jcrawford> tried about 20 times over the last 4 days heh
[12:46] <iceroot> !enter | jcrawford
[12:46] <Younder> mwallner, But fash turns up as gable
[12:47] <Younder> flash
[12:47] <Valentina> MenZa: About the mounting of more hard drives, I mean.
[12:47] <eddym> dr_willis: tar comes compressed do i extract it and where
[12:47] <theadmin> jrib: Mine's 3.5.5... please give the appropriate command :D i can't figure out.
[12:47] <mwallner> Younder: .. do you mean the flash-support ? .. I'm running x64.. everything works fine!
[12:47] <SetiAmon> Hey is there any way to imrpove audio,something like a filter to make things sound crisper and such?
[12:47] <jrib> theadmin: hmm?  What did that last command return?
[12:47] <SetiAmon> is there anyway to tell which version of alsa i have?
[12:47] <Younder> mwallner, No you can't hardy crash it as support software run's in a sepperate process
[12:48] <epinky> jarod51:  this could help http://www.bauer-power.net/2009/05/getting-adobe-air-to-work-in-ubuntu-904.html
[12:48] <theadmin> jrib: I typed this in: "readlink -f $3.5.5", i assume i did something wrong though
[12:48] <mwallner> Youder: but that's nice =)
[12:48] <LjL> SetiAmon, uh, any filter that gives the impression of a "crisper" sound or such will, by definition, be altering the audio, and therefore make it *worse* for any good input
[12:48] <jrib> theadmin: don't change anything: readlink -f $(which firefox)
[12:48] <theadmin> ...why the HELL is it in /opt!?!!?!
[12:49] <jrib> theadmin: /opt and /usr/local/ are the right places to install things outside of the repositories
[12:49] <aguitel> how Customized grub2?
[12:49] <tigertiger> how can play the mp3 file on ubuntu ???
[12:49] <theadmin> jrib: Oh. Okay.
[12:49] <jcrawford> i will probably just install Ubuntu on this work computer today but I hope that it is compatable with the hardware heh otherwise i just waste time
[12:49] <theadmin> tigertiger: Go to a terminal, run this "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[12:49] <London90> tigertiger: you need to install ubuntu-restricted-extras to get the mp3 codec
[12:50] <Failrar> mosta, samba is wins
[12:50] <jcrawford> will Ubuntu recognize bluetooth keyboard/mice on boot or do i have to pair them everytime?  I ask because when i used Fedora it made me pair them with Bluez every boot
[12:50] <tenebrae> hey o
[12:51] <SetiAmon> for sometimes when streaming music or audio in movie player I get a slight buzz
[12:51] <tenebrae> Is it allowed to ask help questions in here?
[12:51] <jrib> tenebrae: that's the *only* kind we allow :)
[12:51] <iceroot> !ask | tenebrae
[12:51] <SetiAmon> i tried installing restricted extra's,codec's etc but that just screws up the audio and then i have to purge
[12:51] <tigertiger> theadmin :   how i go to a terminal  .. I am a newer
[12:51] <brad__> i can't connect with telnet? To my box or anything else
[12:52] <napster> tenebrae: Just ask
[12:52] <jrib> brad__: what?
[12:52] <iceroot> brad__: use ssh
[12:52] <iceroot> !ssh | brad__
[12:52] <London90> SetiAmon: then it's probably a problem with your audio setup. Can you play a file which ubuntu has built in support for eg. ogg?
[12:52] <tenebrae> Cool, simply put - other than the PPPOECONF terminal fix, is there any other way in GUI which you can save and not have to do every time to make DSL work on 9.10?
[12:52] <Mcnuggz> can anyone help me understand this error http://pastebin.com/d1adc234d  (be gentle im a noob)
[12:53] <SetiAmon> yeah
[12:53] <Pici> !gksudo | Mcnuggz
[12:53] <SetiAmon> when playing in flash in browser and stuff its fine
[12:53] <epinky> tigertiger: Applications -> Accesories -> Terminal
[12:53] <SetiAmon> eitherway,I am still putting my computer after going back to jaunty
[12:53] <London90> SetiAmon: what happens to the audio when you install the restricted extras?
[12:53] <SetiAmon> has any progress been made in karmic about audio
[12:54] <SetiAmon> london98:static,distortions,breaks.
[12:54] <sfv> http://pastebin.ca/1664812 anyone can explain why it wants to remove those pkgs?
[12:54] <Mcnuggz> Pici: i still get the same error with gksudo
[12:54] <London90> SetiAmon: do you use a soundcard (which?) or built in ?
[12:54] <SetiAmon> it doesn't matter,the soudn is fine i guess,its just a annoying static type sound but 1000x better then it was in karmic
[12:54] <tenebrae> ah well, I am just kinda surprised they haven't fixed that yet. It's what's keeping me from getting the quite nice 9.10
[12:54] <SetiAmon> X-Fi
[12:54] <Madpilot> Mcnuggz, do other commands w/ sudo work? Is it just nautilus?
[12:54] <freetime> hi , can somebody help me , i need to monitoring process activity and build a chart , can i do this , and whats tools i need to use
[12:55] <London90> Mcnugg: what do you need a root nautilus for I'm sure you could do it via commandline
[12:55] <tenebrae> So, no DSL fix in 9.10?
[12:55] <eise> mm
[12:55] <sfv> what does pkg{u} mean?
[12:56] <Mcnuggz> if i do sudo gedit it opens with no errors
[12:56] <London90> freetime: as map a project you're doing or measure computer resources/
[12:56] <eise> Hi guys, i got a program with no extension and i got no clue on how to run it, can someone point me in the right direction?
[12:56] <iceroot> Mcnuggz: dont use sudo with gui-program
[12:56] <XVampireX> Hi
[12:56] <Mcnuggz> Madpilot: i try to get samba to work
[12:56] <iceroot> !gksudo | Mcnuggz
[12:56] <XVampireX> Oy, hmm
[12:56] <gianluca> !it
[12:57] <tenebrae> yeah kinda what I expected.
[12:57] <freetime> London90: map tasks activity , how much from memory consume for exemple kdm
[12:57] <London90> eise: then how to you know it's a program? files often don't have extensions in linux. If it's a program you may just need may it executable with a permission
[12:58] <eise> London90, it is: http://gridwars.marune.de/
[12:58] <tigertiger> I type this command to install mp3 but
[12:58] <Pici> Mcnuggz: It doesnt matter if it works, it may be causing permissions issues that could cause issues later.  Anyway. I found http://launchpad.net/bugs/434921 which looks to be the same issue. One commenter suggested removing ~/.gconf/apps/nautilus and then trying it again.
[12:58] <tigertiger> the system tell me it is wrong
[12:58] <iceroot> tigertiger: what command?
[12:59] <indus> did anyone by modern warfare 2
[12:59] <Lint> what can I use to defragment ext3 filesystem? or a certain file only?
[12:59] <London90> eise: if you have unzipped then right click on the gridwars file, go over to permissions then check the execute as a program box
[12:59] <tigertiger> sudo apt -get install ubuntu -restricted -extras
[12:59] <ectospasm> tigertiger: apt-get, not apt -get
[12:59] <Blank__> Lint, i believe ext3 doesn't require defragging
[12:59] <London90> Lint: you don't need ext3 doesn't fragment in the like fat and ntfs
[12:59] <jet> hi can i ask a qurestion  please
[12:59] <SetiAmon> what about ext4?does it need defragging
[12:59] <London90> SetiAmon: nope
[12:59] <Lint> of course it does
[12:59] <London90> jet: of course
[13:00] <jet> k cheers
[13:00] <Pici> tigertiger: You have an extra space next to every dash there. its sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:00] <XVampireX> join #linuxmusicians
[13:00] <ectospasm> jet: don't ask to ask, just ask
[13:00] <XVampireX> damn
[13:00] <Younder> London90, ntfs doesn't fragment much, it's a FAT thing
[13:00] <eise> London90, its already checked
[13:00] <jet> i just install ununtu 9
[13:00] <London90> Younder: hence the name :-D
[13:00] <iceroot> tigertiger: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:00] <jet> when i go to teminal  and type  su
[13:00] <eise> I got Ubuntu 9.10 if thats information you might need
[13:00] <sfv> what does pkg{u} mean?
[13:00] <iceroot> tigertiger: without your whitespaces
[13:00] <London90> eise: the to run it just open a terminal then type "./gridwars" without the quotes and it should work
[13:00] <epinky> tigertiger: "ubuntu-restricted-extras" without spaces
[13:00] <Valentina> I'm going to add one more hard drive to my machine. Shall I connect it and then just boot again and afterwards format the newlt inserted hard drive or shall I boot into a Live Cd and then format the new hard drive?
[13:00] <Valentina> *newly
[13:01] <aparide> if epiphany...
[13:01] <iceroot> !sudo | jet
[13:01] <jet> it asks for password but every time i put  my password in it says  fialed wrong password
[13:01] <Blank__> Lint, ext3 is fundamentally different to NTFS or FAT
[13:01] <London90> Vatlentina: just booting again should be fine. Ubuntu should pick it up and let you format it.
[13:01] <tigertiger> system tells me that :  can not find the packages: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:01] <iceroot> jet: because su wants the root-password, but there is no root-password/account, so use sudo
[13:01] <ectospasm> jet: when you use su you need to enter root's password, not yours
[13:01] <Ioneye> After running a /.configure file at the end i get this error: "logging.cc:65: error: ‘snprintf’ was not declared in this scope" what am i supposed to do?
[13:01] <Younder> London90, seriously you can loose 30 % on a large disk by using FAT
[13:01] <tigertiger> i want to paly mp3 file
[13:01] <ectospasm> jet: the root password usually isn't set by default on ubuntu
[13:01] <sipior> Lint: ext filesystems generally only have fragmentation issues at very high utilisation levels.
[13:02] <Lint> I have a 400kb file which occupies 9(!) extents, you call that 'desn't fragment'? stop telling nonsense and tell me how to defragment it
[13:02] <tigertiger> iceroot can you help me again?
[13:02] <epinky> tigertiger: "ubuntu-restricted-areas"
[13:02] <London90> Younder: I hate that its really the only option with a memory pen when going between windows and *nix :-(
[13:02] <iceroot> epinky: extras
[13:02] <eise> London90: i get: ./gridwars: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[13:02] <friendishan> !BRB | KAMIKAZZI
[13:03] <Younder> London90, ubuntu reads ntfs too
[13:03] <Ioneye> After running a /.configure file at the end i get this error: "logging.cc:65: error: ‘snprintf’ was not declared in this scope" what am i supposed to do?
[13:03] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:03] <friendishan> !lol | kamikazzi
[13:03] <iceroot> friendishan: stop that please
[13:03] <miked595> has anyone successfully gotten ubuntu to hibernate properly?
[13:03] <noobuntu> I made it
[13:03] <iceroot> miked595: yes, depending on the hardware
[13:03] <noobuntu> woot woot
[13:03] <jet> cheers  m8 that worked :)
[13:03] <friendishan> my totem movie player closes as soon as it starts
[13:03] <noobuntu> help
[13:04] <miked595> iceroot: acer aspire one
[13:04] <legend2440> tigertiger: open  system>administration>software sources  and make sure   multiverse repo has check mark next to it  it will be  the 4th one down
[13:04] <noobuntu> I require some assitance
[13:04] <ville__> Hi! Kubuntu crashed while upgrading to 9.10. After that I got "One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted". Never got over that, so I used recovery console to remount sda3 with rw access and finished upgrade. Now I think my Python2.6 is broken. Trying to (re)install (almost) anything gives "'import site' failed..." (including 'apptitude install -f'). How can I fix this?
[13:04] <friendishan> epinky
[13:04] <friendishan> my totem movie player closes as soon as it starts
[13:04] <London90> Younder: would there be any reason not to use ntfs for flash pen??
[13:04] <brad__> ssh won't work wither...can't connect to any ips
[13:04] <napster> noobuntu: Ask
[13:04] <friendishan> !patience | friendishan
[13:04] <sp4z> has anyone successfully connected to a windows share on another pc from ubuntu 9.10?
[13:04] <noobuntu> I'm running a new ubuntu installation on my sun virtual box
[13:05] <London90> eise: then you probably don't have that library installed. So you need to find it in synaptic. Can you do that?
[13:05] <Younder> London90, compatabillity with windows 95-98
[13:05] <London90> sp4z: yup, having problems?
[13:05] <noobuntu> after adding an additional slave hdd partion to my ubuntu virtual box, I cant seem to mount or find that newly add hd
[13:05] <noobuntu> ?
[13:05] <Lint> what can I use to defragment ext3 filesystem? or a one certain file only? re-creating
[13:05] <Younder> London90, nothing you should worry about
 I have a 400kb file which occupies 9(!) extents
[13:05] <tigertiger> i have no software sources option
[13:06] <BluesKaj> !defrag | Lint
[13:06] <miked595> Lint: fschk
[13:06] <iceroot> Lint: ext3 has no fragmentation
[13:06] <Blank__> Lint, how do you know what size those "extents" are
[13:06] <noobuntu> erm ... :(
[13:06] <eise> @London90, yhe working on it :) heheh tnx
[13:06] <London90> Younder: well that shouldn't really be a problem. I'll change it ntfs. I remeber looks into ages ago and there was some reason not to (possibly ntfs support in linux) oh well
[13:06] <napster> Lint: ext3 allows no fragmentation like ntfs or fat
[13:06] <brad__> everytime i try to connect with putty it says connection timed out
[13:06] <sp4z> london90, no not yet :D
[13:06] <friendishan> my totem movie player closes as soon as it starts
[13:06] <sipior> iceroot: napster: that's patently false.
[13:06] <syn-ack> napster, Not true
[13:06] <Lint> Blank__, filefrag
[13:06] <London90> sp4z: are you connecting to a xp machine or vista/ windows 7>
[13:06] <bassliner> anyone an idea why the font antialiasing in firefox 3.5 in ubuntu 9.10 just looks so goddamn bad, almost causing eye cancer or something?
[13:06] <friendishan> my totem movie player closes as soon as it starts
[13:06] <noobuntu> anyone?
[13:06] <napster> sipior: can you explain
[13:07] <iceroot> sipior: no, its correct
[13:07] <napster> syn-ack: ..?
[13:07] <sp4z> london90, does that matter?
[13:07] <syn-ack> iceberg, that is false.
[13:07] <Lint> the unfragmenting filesystem in NP-full problem
[13:07] <sipior> napster: iceroot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3. Read.
[13:07] <BluesKaj> London90, ntfs is seen in linux , read-write capable , if that's what you mean by support
[13:07] <London90> sp4z: yea, sometimes vista has trouble because is only accepts one kind of authenication that linux doesn't support
[13:07] <friendishan> my totem movie player closes as soon as it starts
[13:07] <friendishan> my totem movie player closes as soon as it starts
[13:07] <syn-ack> It does fragment. Just not in same way as NTFS
[13:08] <acr0nym> omg, I finally have no excuse anymore to boot up windows
[13:08] <noobuntu> guys how do I get my ubuntu to see a secondary partion?
[13:08] <s0162195> hi, anyone ever installed ubuntu on a sun server?
[13:08] <napster> sipior: ty m8 :)
[13:08] <friendishan> everyone my totem movie player closes as soon as it starts
[13:08] <miked595> doesn't an fschk make the filesystem contiguous as well as check for errors?
[13:08] <London90> friendishan: we heard you the first time, it doesn't seem like any has any ideas.
[13:08] <Lint> all filesystems fragments in exactly same way
[13:08] <acr0nym> I got photoshop cs4 working great it even works better than in windows
[13:08] <friendishan> ok
[13:08] <acr0nym> still can't believe it
[13:08] <syn-ack> sipior, Good call, btw
[13:08] <BluesKaj> !patience | friendishan
[13:08] <acr0nym> and this is on an eeepc connected to a vga @ 1280x1024
[13:08] <Lint> acr0nym, all hail Adobe
[13:08] <London90> BluesKaj: it was, thanks.
[13:08] <acr0nym> can't believe it runs better than on windows
[13:08] <Pici> !offtopic
[13:08] <acr0nym> Lint not sure if it is adobe that helped...
[13:08] <acr0nym> I am running it through wine
[13:09] <epinky> friendishan: try with VLC player
[13:09] <London90> Lint: I think you'll find that some are a lot more tidy and don't require as much nannying
[13:09] <tigertiger> someboy tell me that input :   sudo apt -get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:09] <friendishan> epinky : the same with it.
[13:09] <acr0nym> it is actually the portable version of photoshop cs4.. didn't even have to install
[13:09] <noobuntu> ag
[13:09] <tigertiger> can install packages to play mp3
[13:09] <noobuntu> this is no fun
[13:09] <tigertiger> but i can not
[13:09] <w1redo> ive just downloaded the new adobe flash player but it saying it cant find a archive for please could someone help me thanks
[13:09] <acr0nym> the whole process took me less than 10 minutes, including installing wine
[13:09] <friendishan> epinky : it's a problem i have been facing for a long period of time.
[13:10] <tigertiger> crying
[13:10] <syn-ack> acr0nym, Pici posted that !offtopic to you, you know.
[13:10] <eise> London90: I already got libstdc++6, isn't it backwards compatible?
[13:10] <epinky> tigertiger: "apt-get" no spaces
[13:10] <Gadget3000> w1redo: which broswer are you using?
[13:10] <Lint> London90, show me NTFS filesystem which have 400kb file fragmented in 9 pieces
[13:10] <friendishan> epinky : it closes as soon as i view it.
[13:10] <w1redo> firefox
[13:10] <sp4z> london90, ok, is there another way to connect to c$ for example from a linux machine?
[13:10] <friendishan> epinky : it work well if minimized and we can hear the sound,
[13:10] <Gadget3000> in terminal, try|
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Lint, after 30 or so boots , linux does an auto disk check anyway
[13:10] <tigertiger> system tell me that  there is no ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:10] <miked595> Lint, sipior, iceroot: doesn't ubuntu automatically run an fsck after 30 reboots?
[13:10] <friendishan> epinky : this time it hanged up.
[13:11] <tigertiger> packages
[13:11] <London90> Lint: I was speaking generally. You may, of course, be having a specific issue that is an exception to the rule.
[13:11] <Gadget3000> w1redo: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:11] <indus> London90: install the gstreamer ffmpeg file
[13:11] <Lint> BluesKaj, how disk checkis gonna help with fragmentation?
[13:11] <syn-ack> BluesKaj, It's been upped to about 67 boots now.
[13:11] <sipior> miked595: fsck does nothing to alleviate fiel fragmentation
[13:11] <London90> indus: what for?
[13:11] <indus> oops bad timing
[13:11] <w1redo> thanks
[13:11] <indus> London90: you were looking for some codecs?
[13:11] <kane77> are the fixes that were done as part of "100 paper cuts" project integrated into karmic?
[13:11] <miked595> sipior: well if it doesn't fragment ;)
[13:11] <goldie> anyone ever had the text-based ubuntu installer show mangled text? If yes, how the * did you fix it ? :)
[13:11] <London90> indus: I wasn't but thanks anyway :p
[13:11] <indus> what is 100 paper cuts
[13:11] <syn-ack> kane77, where it could be...
[13:12] <indus> London90: :P
[13:12]  * sipior sighs
[13:12] <BluesKaj> Lint, it realigns the data blocks there is any fragemnentation
[13:12] <London90> sp4z: you could install ssh, or setup an ftp server or something like that
[13:12] <Madpilot> kane77, most of them, I think
[13:12] <BluesKaj> if
[13:12] <Valentina> London90: Ok, thanks, I'll try to connect it and reboot.
[13:12]  * indus asks why the *sigh*
[13:12] <Younder> sp4z, I use Mono and ModoDevelop as a iDE. Is that what you mean? (It tends to hang a version behind .NET)
[13:12] <dashavoo> I am struggling to connect to my wpa2 network from my desktop computer (just upgraded to Karmic), however it works fine from my karmic laptop (which has been running karmic since alpha3), does anybody have any suggestions as to what is wrong?
[13:12] <kane77> Madpilot, cool I really like that someone is fixing the little annoying things
[13:12] <Lint> BluesKaj, so how can I force fsck?
[13:12] <syn-ack> Lint, man mount man fsck
[13:13] <epinky> tigertiger: could you post results?
[13:13] <legend2440> tigertiger: open  system>administration>synaptic  and look for  ubuntu-restricted-extras   in there
[13:13] <Younder> syn-ack, lint went out with ANSI C, grow up
[13:13] <Tatzelbrumm> dashavoo: GNOME or KDE?
[13:13] <kane77> indus, it is project to erradicate 100 most annoying things (usability problems) in ubuntu
[13:13] <dashavoo> Tatzelbrumm: Gnome
[13:13] <gcola> I'm looking for a different behavior for alt-tab and/or windowskey-tab.  A simple list that not only lets me cycle through, but that I can click on a specific window with the mouse instead of cycling all the way around.
[13:13] <epinky> tigertiger: yep, use synaptic, it's better
[13:13] <w1redo> gadget3000 ive just tryed that and its sayin same thing to me it cant find the archive
[13:13] <syn-ack> Younder, was that supposed to be a joke?
[13:13] <indus> kane77: aah ok cool, i couldnt understand what it meant,i thought all silly issues which would never be fixed
[13:13] <Tatzelbrumm> dashavoo: in that case, my laptop doesn't reproduce your error. It had difficulties under KDE but not GNOME.
[13:14] <sp4z> london90, younder, well from windoze pc to win pc you would just type in the run box i.e \\10.1.1.9\c$ and then enter user and pass, is that functionality in ubuntu anywhere?
[13:14] <Younder> syn-ack, yes
[13:14] <Lint> syn-ack, fsck warns about corruption if run on mounted filesystem
[13:14] <tigertiger> thank you all the guys
[13:14] <eise> London90: The solution would be: sudo apt-get install libstdc++5, but i can't seem to install version 5
[13:14] <ectospasm> gcola: that's called the task list on the panel
[13:14] <syn-ack> Younder, Sorry, completly lost on me. :(
[13:14] <jrib> gcola: does the Scale plugin in compiz work for you?
[13:14] <ascheel> Anybody know of a way to limit which logins are listed in the gdm login screen?
[13:14] <dashavoo> Tatzelbrumm: my laptop is also fine, which is what is really confusing me.
[13:14] <syn-ack> Lint, which is why I told you to man mount as well
[13:14] <miked595> Lint: you can't be on the filesystem and fsck at the same time
[13:14] <London90> sp4z: yes,  you just click on network in nautilus and navigate to your share
[13:14] <Younder> sp4z: yes
[13:14] <eise> Alsow it doesn't show up in Syn
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Lint, you can cause severe damage if force fsck , the dev must be unmounted afaik
[13:15] <indus> fsck -r is a  good option
[13:15] <indus> fsck -r -v
[13:15] <Younder> sp4z, I still use PyLint..
[13:15] <miked595> you can boot with the live cd and fsck the partition that way
[13:15] <syn-ack> Lint, you also can man shutdown
[13:15] <sp4z> london90, younder, cheers
[13:15] <London90> eise: Then I don't know what to suggest, sorry. It might be worth looking for the support that goes with the game.
[13:15] <eise> support file: find londen90 in #Ubuntu :P
[13:16] <ttestt> hello. can anyone tell me, how to change default WM from gnome to icewm, in remastered boot cd? please.
[13:16] <ascheel> if you want to fsck the drive, just do this prior to a reboot:  sudo touch /forcefsck
[13:16] <Lint> syn-ack, my shutdown has no filesystem check option
[13:16] <syn-ack> Lint, look at what ascheel and indus just told you...
[13:16] <jet> how can i find my ip off  pc in ubuntu 9
[13:16] <London90> eise: teehee
[13:16] <miked595> nice shutdown -F
[13:16] <angelus> gcola y Ctrl+shift+up, that might be what you are looking for (and then go and change the key binding at System»Preferences»Keyboard Shortcuts »» Initiate window Picker)
[13:17] <Tatzelbrumm> dashavoo: not really confusing ... I suspect that these errors are caused by communication difficulties between one of the excessively many abstraction layers ... it just doesn't support your particular wireless hardware. but that's just my uneducated guess.
[13:17] <London90> jet: click on the network icon in the top right corner and then connection info
[13:17] <Younder> jet?
[13:17] <miked595> love man pages
[13:17] <jet> i need to know the ip of my sever for vnc
[13:17] <Sky3RN> ifconfig
[13:17] <Sky3RN> In a terminal.
[13:17] <miked595> external ip?
[13:18] <Younder> jet: are you using a web provider?
[13:18] <syn-ack> miked595, yeah, they're really handy when you actually read them... unlike some people.
[13:18] <jet> i  m8
[13:18] <London90> syn-ack miked595: amen, rtfm
[13:18] <miked595> jet: if you are behind a router using NAT then using an external site to get your public IP might be easist:  http://www.xpertdns.com/myip.php
[13:19] <dumnut> hi, i am partitionaing ubuntu, is boot partition ext3?
[13:19] <syn-ack> dumnut, it can be...
[13:19] <Gadget3000> dumnut: which version of ubuntu
[13:19] <kane77> is it possible somehow to tell dhcp that I want certain IP address? I know it is possible to configure some routers to give certain IP address for certain MAC addres, however it is not possible on mine
[13:19] <London90> mcnuggz: what are you trying to do with nautilus that requires root?
[13:19] <dumnut> hi syn-ack hi Gadget3000, 9.04
[13:19] <Gadget3000> dumnut: I would still reccommend gparted for linux partitions though
[13:19] <ascheel> kane77: you must reserve DHCP IP addresses on the server dishing them out
[13:19] <Gadget3000> dumnut: probably ext3 then
[13:19] <Younder> jet. if so ifcongig (an command line program) will do it.
[13:20] <jagjr> are there any good macro recorders for ubuntu?
[13:20] <London90> kane77: or you could change the ip settings on the client to static. Though if that address is already taken you could have problems
[13:20] <tigertiger> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first.
[13:20] <tigertiger> why?
[13:21] <tigertiger> Unable to get exclusive lock
[13:21] <friendishan> epinky : u der?
[13:21] <jagjr> are there any good macro recorders for ubuntu?
[13:21] <miked595> syn-ack: London90: No manual entry for hibernate  :(
[13:21] <tigertiger>  when i want to open  synaptic
[13:21] <tigertiger> there is an error :   Unable to get exclusive lock
[13:21] <tigertiger> why??
[13:21] <Younder> tigertiger, you are root , but not system root
[13:21] <gcola> angelus: Ctrl+shift+up does nothing for me.  I can manage to change the keybindings.  I'm just trying to find the right window picker to bind to.
[13:22] <jet> is there any good programs i can use to  copy files from my pc to my linux server ?
[13:22] <Lint> whoever said that fsck 'realigns data blocks' and combat fragmentation this way is damned liar
[13:22] <tigertiger> i am in the gui interface ,how do i deal with ??
[13:22] <miked595> jet: i like to use scp
[13:22] <gcola> I've recently installed 9.10 w/Gnome.  Previously I was running 8.04 and KDE.  I liked the default window picker for KDE better.
[13:22] <tigertiger> os is ubuntu       GUI
[13:22] <sipior> Lint: yep.
[13:22] <London90> jet: you could user teracopy on your windows machine to copy them over. Or just use the inbuilt system copier
[13:22] <jagjr> are there any good macro recorders for ubuntu?
[13:23] <BluesKaj> Lint, http://blogs.pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/tux-love/2009/11/hidden_linux_what_the_fsck.html
[13:23] <dashavoo> Actually, it seems my computer won't authenticate to any wireless network, not just a WPA2 one. It does see all the networks I expect it to, just won't connect.
[13:23] <Gadget3000> gcola: use kubuntu instead. it has DKE built in so is more stable than putting it into ubuntu
[13:23] <London90> tigertiger: you might have a program using apt running or crashed. You could try restarting the computer. If that doesn't fix it then i'd go with Youder's suggestion
[13:23] <tigertiger> I am   root ,,  but not system root ....how can do now ?
[13:24] <fasta> How do I enable hiberation on Ubuntu in karmic if it has already been installed?
[13:24] <angelus> gcola huh .... well its the "Initiate windows Picker" on Keyboard shortcuts menu..... change keybinding to something viable and check it out ....
[13:24] <Gadget3000> gcola: *KDE
[13:24] <London90> dashavoo: are you sure you're wireless adapter supports wpa2
[13:24] <gcola> Gadget3000: Thanks, but not sure I want to switch to KDE just for the window picker, but I'll think, about it.
[13:24] <tigertiger> i    restart my computer just now
[13:24] <jagjr> are there any good macro recorders for ubuntu?
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> jagjr:  ive seen some in the repos for some tasks.
[13:25] <miked595> fasta: you can click you user in the upper right hand corner to and select hibernate to test it out. I'm having the problem of it actually working
[13:25] <sipior> BluesKaj: fsck fixes filesystem errors. fragmentation is not an error, per se, but a result of the block allocation algorithm. it simply won't fix filesystem fragmentation.
[13:25] <syn-ack> fasta, Hibernation is installed by default. All should need to do is click on hibernate in your shutdown menu
[13:25] <jagjr> Dr_willies : i need some that click in more than one place
[13:25] <fasta> syn-ack, it doesn't work if your swap is not large enough.
[13:25] <jagjr> Dr_willis : i need some that click in more than one place
[13:25] <Younder> tigertiger, type from the command line 'sudo passwd root'
[13:25] <Gadget3000> fasta: It should be enabled by default but you may need to change some bios settings to get it to work properly
[13:25] <kane77> London90, do you know of any utility that would for instance translate the MAC address to actual IP of that computer?
[13:25] <fasta> syn-ack, see the release notes. That's what I meant by "enable".
[13:25] <friendishan> .
[13:25] <dumnut> i chose partition ex3, but it says no root system chosen?
[13:25] <fasta> Gadget3000, BIOS is irrelevant in my case.
[13:25] <miked595> fasta: sipior: my swap is 4gb and it still doesn't work
[13:25] <syn-ack> fasta, you need to be a bit more clear then
[13:26] <Younder> tigertiger, enter accont password and figure out a system password
[13:26] <batang_g> I have aproblem with Ubuntu 9.10-Desktop i386.  When im installing packages like g++ and hardware drivers, it always says "Please insert  cd Ubuntu 9.10.." or something like that.  But when i insert the installation cd, it says the same thing.  Can someone make this work?
[13:26] <dashavoo> London90: yes, I was using it on jaunty since July up until this morning
[13:26] <London90> kane77: nope i'm not sure that's possible, mac isn't linked to ip address in the same way as dns name
[13:26] <syn-ack> fasta, you're gonna have to repartition some more swap space on to the drive... which filesystem are you running?
[13:26] <BluesKaj> sipior, ok tell Lint , he seems to think he needs to defrag ..maybe you can tell him how to defrag or not
[13:26] <indus> i want some easy questions
[13:26] <indus> anyone?
[13:26] <syn-ack> fasta, And, btw I know what the release notes say
[13:26] <jrib> Younder: erm, please don't recommend setting a root passowrd here, especially when there's no reason to do so
[13:27] <Younder> tigertiger, then do the 'su'
[13:27] <fasta> syn-ack, ok, so when I say "hibernate", I get this black screen (console) with some exception and then the system exits. On reboot, the BIOS says "resuming", but Ubuntu just boots instead of resuming.
[13:27] <friendishan> !VLC
[13:27] <sipior> Lint: the important question for you is not whether you have fragmented files (that's unavoidable), but whether there is an concomitant impact on system performance. i'm don't imagine there is.
[13:27] <jrib> !noroot > Younder
[13:27] <indus> !botabuse
[13:27] <fasta> syn-ack, I use ext3.
[13:27] <ebtek220> i lost the wicd icon in my tray. it is marked on my startup to work but doesn't show up.  is there a way to get it back using the terminal?
[13:27] <syn-ack> fasta, standby
[13:27] <fasta> syn-ack, ok, I don't know what everyone knows.
[13:27] <sipior> Lint: and please forgive my poor grammar. fingers don't want to work properly today...
[13:27] <jrib> ebtek220: wicd-client  iirc
[13:27] <friendishan> !noroot
[13:28] <syn-ack> fasta, http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions
[13:28] <Younder> jrib, hard not to when I had to reinstall my old system because I didn't have one
[13:28] <angelus> fasta have you installed Linux before ??
[13:28] <friendishan> epinky : u there?
[13:28] <anon_> I have 4 GB on my system, but the Gnome system monitor only shows 2.9 GB. How do I let Ubuntu to use the full 4 GB?
[13:28] <jrib> Younder: do you want to know how you could have avoided a reinstall?
[13:28] <mrXX> guys, is it possible to make one of the sites in my apache virtual host to be a www site?
[13:28] <syn-ack> fasta, once you resize one of those ext3 parts down some, enlarge your swap part
[13:28] <fasta> angelus, what kind of question is that?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> anon_: install the 64bit version, or install the server kernel which has PAE enabled
[13:28] <jrib> mrXX: sure, why not
[13:28] <syn-ack> fasta, before you do that, read man swapon
[13:28] <fasta> syn-ack, by how much exactly?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> anon_: 32bit OSs can only access that much RAM
[13:29] <angelus> well ... my next piece of advice is completely useless if you have instlled it before ....
[13:29] <fasta> syn-ack, I have 4GB RAM.
[13:29] <ebtek220> still didn't show up in the tra
[13:29] <indus> fasta: i think he just wants to know if its your first time, no offence
[13:29] <ebtek220> y
[13:29] <anon_> ActionParsnip, well I have the 32 bit Ubuntu, so you might be right :)
[13:29] <syn-ack> fasta, you want your swap to be equal to or twice as much as the RAM on the machine
[13:29] <mrXX> jrib how to you do it?  I have already got a free dns , but i try logging to my site through proxy but it doesn't work
[13:29] <rlo> Trying to install app-cacher on a server. Catch is that the workstations are running Jaunty while the server's running hardy. Is this safe, or are there any hidden "gotchas" here? Thanks in advance...
[13:29] <fasta> syn-ack, I just want to know the minimum value that is guaranteed to work.
[13:29] <indus> fasta: keep swap at 1 gb ,its more than enough, dont waste hdd space
[13:29] <syn-ack> I just told you
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> anon_: if you install the server kernel and boot to it, you should get more ram accessible
[13:29] <Younder> jrib, too late..
[13:29] <indus> fasta: 512 mb works great
[13:29] <syn-ack> indonesia, it may not be
[13:30] <Captain_Haddock> !samba
[13:30] <Younder> jrib, It was done weeks ago
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> anon_: or a more futureproof solution is to install 64bit Ubuntu to allow you to add more ram
[13:30] <syn-ack> fasta, you're kinda leading him down the wrong path here...
[13:30] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi how do i access "system > administration" if it's not in my panel? thanks
[13:30] <jrib> Younder: k, but please keep in mind that setting a root password is unnecessary when helping others here
[13:30] <legend2440> anon_: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/
[13:30] <indus> IpSe_DiXiT: hmm
[13:30] <anon_> ActionParsnip, but will 32 bit programs work on the 64 bit system?
[13:30] <indonesia> syn-ack : what?
[13:30] <jrib> IpSe_DiXiT: add it to your panel?
[13:30] <indus> IpSe_DiXiT: right click on edit menu
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> anon_: they can if you install ia32-libs
[13:30] <syn-ack> indus, that was to, not you indonesia
[13:31] <syn-ack> sorry
[13:31] <indonesia> syn-ack : kk
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> anon_: the apps you use will have 64bit versions on the repos
[13:31] <fasta> syn-ack, the thing is, I never need 4GB RAM in a normal session.
[13:31] <jrib> mrXX: buy a domain, point your domain to your ip, that's it
[13:31] <indus> syn-ack: which wrong path, i prefer calling it the path not much taken :)
[13:31] <mrXX> jrib i have a dns (from dyndns) pointed to my ip,
[13:31] <syn-ack> fasta, then make your swap 4 gigs
[13:31] <kartook> any one tell me whic is the right channel to join for Dekstop ubuntu help
[13:31] <IpSe_DiXiT> jrib: there's no way to add, it's a custom version, is it possible it's no where else? the panel's just a link, it has to be accessible from somewhere else...
[13:31] <tigertiger> i open the synaptic Package Manager,,how can setup the option to play the mp3 files
[13:31] <syn-ack> indus, thats wrong information.
[13:31] <Pici> kartook: This is it.
[13:31] <indus> syn-ack: what is?
[13:31] <tigertiger> thank you in advance
[13:31] <London90> kartook: you're in it
[13:31] <fasta> syn-ack, Ok, I was under the impression it didn't work if you had less than the size of your RAM.
[13:31] <kartook> thanks
[13:32] <Younder> jrib, yes, the windows look alike..
[13:32] <fasta> syn-ack, if that's a false impression then I know enough.
[13:32] <ebtek220> jrib: an other ideas on how to get wicd back in the tray
[13:32] <kartook> i need to create a menus on my mouse rught clicks
[13:32] <jrib> IpSe_DiXiT: it's not just a link.  The menu is formed from .desktop files.  You can certainly run all of the programs listed there using the terminal if you want
[13:32] <kartook> like Knoppix
[13:32] <syn-ack> fasta, youre generally right too, indus was trying to give you bad info
[13:32] <legend2440> tigertiger: in synaptic look for  ubuntu-restricted-extras  and install it
[13:32] <kartook> how can
[13:32] <mrXX> jrib i think i have to configure my apache for that, but i dont know, I do have a dns pointing to my ip
[13:32] <hirschi1974> Hallo
[13:32] <Madpilot> fasta, /swap isn't even mandatory; I didn't bother for a while...
[13:32] <miked595> so I get this when trying to hibernate from command line: Warning: Tuxonice binary signature file not found
[13:32] <IpSe_DiXiT> jrib: ok i need to run "language selector" im also searching it in synaptic but with no luck
[13:32] <indus> syn-ack: can you explain why you keep saying my name and not mentioning which info is wrong??
[13:32] <jrib> mrXX: do you have a router or firewal between your machine and the internet?
[13:33] <syn-ack> Madpilot, for hibernation it is manditory
[13:33] <wagner> find
[13:33] <jrib> IpSe_DiXiT: no idea, but try: gnome-lang<TAB><TAB>
[13:33] <ascheel> Anybody know of a way to limit which logins are listed in the gdm login screen?
[13:33] <Lint> IpSe_DiXiT, gnome-language-selector
[13:33] <mrXX> jrib yes i have a router
[13:33] <syn-ack> indus, your comment to fasta regarding swap space size was completely wrong.
[13:33] <hirschi1974> ich braeucht mal ein wenig Hilfe beim Konfigurieren von X11 und einer radeon mobility 7500 unter karmic koala 9.10
[13:33] <wagner> hi
[13:33] <jrib> mrXX: you need to forward port 80 to your machine
[13:33] <Madpilot> syn-ack, true, but hibernation of desktops isn't that common
[13:34] <miked595> indus: I believe the hibernate process dumps the ram to the swap partition so you need a swap at least the size of your ram for it to fit
[13:34] <fasta> Madpilot, what makes you think this is a desktop?\
[13:34] <syn-ack> Madpilot, but he WANTS to hibernate.
[13:34] <indus> syn-ack: no it inst, you arent wrong if you quote whats generally quoted
[13:34] <tigertiger> in my system there is no ubuntu-restricted-extras ,,how can i do then
[13:34] <tigertiger> ??
[13:34] <fasta> Madpilot, It isn't.
[13:34] <IpSe_DiXiT> Lint: nice clue, it's not installed, ill install it then :D thanks
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> tigertiger: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:34] <Madpilot> syn-ack, fasta - fair enough. Missed that part of the discussion earlier, sorry.
[13:34] <syn-ack> indus, and what's GENERALLY quoted is equal to or twice as much
[13:34] <mrXX> jrib do i need to have access to the router to do that? cause i use the internet of the university in my dorm, it is not mine personal
[13:34] <kartook> how can i make a menus on mouse right click ???
[13:34] <jrib> mrXX: yes
[13:34] <syn-ack> indus, so your info is wrong.
[13:34] <indus> syn-ack: 1 gb is more than enough for almost all things including hibernate, the often used commenet of twice the ram is too old now
[13:35] <mrXX> jrib damn, so there is no way around?
[13:35] <Xcell> kartook-  install nautilus-actions
[13:35] <jrib> mrXX: does your computer get its own ip to the outside world?
[13:35] <IpSe_DiXiT> Lint: but it's a gnome pack, and im running lxde... that might be a prob
[13:35] <kartook> ohh cool
[13:35] <syn-ack> indus, it's been like that since the beginning of time, according to linus
[13:35] <indus> syn-ack: so lets not get into whats right or whats wrong, lets see what works
[13:35] <legend2440> tigertiger: in synaptic on top open   Settings>Repositories   and see if there is check mark next ot  the  (multiverse) repository
[13:35] <kartook> can i get offline installation pack for GNOME
[13:35] <wagner> seach
[13:35] <Madpilot> tigertiger, close Synaptic, open Software Sources (System->Admin->Software Sources) and make sure Universe and Multiverse are checked off
[13:35] <indus> syn-ack: bad argument
[13:35] <kartook> i have kubuntu in my home
[13:35] <fasta> Since everyone is arguing here, is there a document which just states how it actually is? I.e. some kind of authority?
[13:35] <mrXX> jrib i believe so, i have an ip of format 80.10....
[13:35] <jrib> mrXX: i.e. is 199.8.13.1 your ip or the router's?
[13:35] <indus> syn-ack: time has changed now,
[13:35] <kartook> no insterneti need to install DNOME how can i install ?
[13:35] <mrXX> jjrib no
[13:35] <mrXX> jrib
[13:36] <miked595> fasta: you using the wubi install?
[13:36] <mrXX> jrib no, it is like 80.10.47.90
[13:36] <jarod51> my computer janitor hangs, what can i do ?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> fasta: about what?
[13:36] <fasta> miked595, no.
[13:36] <syn-ack> indus, if you like, I can show in the ubuntu documentation where it recommends it. so don't tell someone that they need less than the rule of thumb
[13:36] <acr0nym> hi I'm on 9.10 right now but there doesn't seem to be a xorg.conf in /etc/X11/
[13:36] <acr0nym> any ideas?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> jarod51: reinstall it
[13:36] <jrib> mrXX: well right now I see your ip as 199.8.13.1 so...
[13:36] <indus> syn-ack: you telling me if i have 4 gb ram , i use a swap of 8 gb? what a waste
[13:36] <hirschi1974> wo kann ich den jetzt angeben welche grafikkarte ich besitze bzw. welche treiber mit welchen optionen ich fahren moechte?
[13:36] <jarod51> ActionParsnip: allready done
[13:36] <dashavoo> dmesg tells me wlan0: direct probe to AP 00:24:b2:74:fb:9e try 1,2,3, then timed out
[13:36] <fasta> ActionParsnip, about the size of swap for hibernate to work always.
[13:36] <john-saint> hi all. does anyone know where i can get ubuntu screen savers from cus half of the ones on 9-10 are not on there!
[13:36] <jarod51> ActionParsnip: reinstall from start
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> acr0nym: this is normal, if you add one it will be read, ubuntu relys on hal now (very nnoying)
[13:36] <hirschi1974> xorg.conf ist nicht mehr vorhanden?!
[13:36] <Madpilot> ubottu, de |  hirschi1974
[13:36] <indus> syn-ack: i know what the doc says, its time for it to be revised anyway
[13:36] <fasta> ActionParsnip, E.g. if I use a 2GB swap for 4GB RAM, but only use about 1.5GB RAM will it still work?
[13:37] <mrXX> jrib so what does it mean? cuase that ip you saw doesn't open my local host, but the other ip does
[13:37] <resno> i started something in screen, how do i go back and close it?
[13:37] <acr0nym> thanks ActionParsnip
[13:37] <Younder> I recomend all set up the Ubuntu Fire Wall UFW as it is not set up by default
[13:37] <syn-ack> indus, well, there are always swap files too, but for hibernation you NEED to have a physical swap partition
[13:37] <user1> !realplay
[13:37] <user1> !realplayer
[13:37] <meatbun> how to sftp via gnome?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> fasta: system has <2gb ram, swap = 2xram. system has >2gb ram then use 1xram
[13:37] <bidossessi> meatbun, nautilus?
[13:37] <tigertiger> in my system there is no system-> admin-> software sources ...why?
[13:37] <hirschi1974> oh ok
[13:37] <indus> syn-ack: i think you misread or misquoted me, 1gb ram is good enough for most here, unlesssomeone says otherwise
[13:37] <syn-ack> indus, and to ensure hibernation works correctly, you should follow the information
[13:37] <rudi> rudi125
[13:38] <resno> tigertiger: are you kde or gnome?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> fasta: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[13:38] <Lint> tigertiger, how did you get your system and how it's called?
[13:38] <fasta> ActionParsnip, Thanks!
[13:38] <kartook> how can i install the GNOME on my kubuntu ?
[13:38] <meatbun> bidossessi, ya. i mean nautilus. so long... i forgot what it was called
[13:38] <kartook> on offline ?
[13:38] <Messi> juego de boxeo online http://www.kobox.org/kobox-fande-Nourine.html
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> fasta: jeeves knows much
[13:38] <indus> syn-ack: i hibernate fine,and so do 10 machines here with 1 gb ram so whats your point?
[13:38] <Madpilot> tigertiger, you have a System menu? System->Administration->Software Sources?
[13:38] <indus> syn-ack: doc says it so its always corect?
[13:38] <ubuntunewbie2> hi
[13:38] <syn-ack> Thanks, ActionParsnip I was just about to get that
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> kartook: use aptoncd
[13:38] <Valentina> Will this be the correct manner of formatting a new hard drive into ext4 file system: sudo mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sdc1 ?
[13:38] <jrib> mrXX: <bunch of people in dorm> -> router -> internet -> me.  I only see "router", so when I ask router for a web page, it doesn't know I want the web page from you
[13:38] <indus> syn-ack: ill go edit the doc if you wish
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Lint, call me a liar if you want, I really beleived that fsck would do what I said . Technically I was mistaken but I wasn't deliberstely misleading you. Only a liar would do such a thing. Maybe you should read this :http://lwn.net/Articles/248180/
[13:38] <hirschi1974> cu
[13:38] <ubuntunewbie2> can ubuntu install on an logical partition ?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> fasta: if you have loads of ram and never exceed it, you do not even need swap
[13:39] <bidossessi> meatbun, the other machines on your network are running sftp? if so, you should see the sftp servers listed in "Network" in nautilus.
[13:39] <miked595> indus: you swap size, when using hibernate, needs to be at least the same or bigger the size of your ram. If you never hibernate and have 4gb of ram you can forgo the swap all together
[13:39] <mrXX> jrib can i pm you
[13:39] <tigertiger> ubuntu linux for human beings :  Version  for your Pc
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewbie2: sure
[13:39] <xt28> ubuntunewbie2: yes.
[13:39] <indus> syn-ack: oops ,nvm too much waste of channel space
[13:39] <syn-ack> indus, listen. I've been running linux since 1998, I think I know what I'm talking about.
[13:39] <jrib> mrXX: please keep the discussion in the channel so everyone can help you
[13:39] <indus> syn-ack: no issues , lets leave it
[13:39] <fasta> ActionParsnip, that's what I don't understand. I do have loads of RAM, but hibernation doesn't work.
[13:39] <ubuntunewbie2> ActionParsnip , xt28 : thanks :-)
[13:39] <meatbun> bidossessi, i found out how
[13:39] <DarwinSurvivor> can the unr interface be dissabled in karmic netbook remix?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> fasta: not something i use or bother with, not worth it
[13:39] <fasta> ActionParsnip, the only reason I am interested in swap is because I want hibernation.
[13:39] <Madpilot> tigertiger, OK, so do you have a System menu? with an Administration submenu?
[13:39] <indus> miked595: if i had 1 gb of ram, system wont hibernate?
[13:39] <resno> tigertiger: thats hugley generic. do you see a k at the bottom left corner or a menu of things up top?
[13:40] <mrXX> jrib so what does that mean, will i not be able to have a dns?
[13:40] <jrib> mrXX: doesn't seem like it
[13:40] <indus> syn-ack: hasnt linux changed since 1998 to now?
[13:40] <fasta> ActionParsnip, ok, but since I do want to use it I should just get the swap.
[13:40] <syn-ack> fasta, it's not going to work if you dont have enough swap. Thats where the system saves the hiberfile.
[13:40] <xt28> ubuntunewbie2: you're welcome!
[13:40] <miked595> indus: I have 1gb with a 4gb swap and the system won't hibernate.. so my issue is not swap space lol
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> linux has changed radiaclly since 1998 :)
[13:40] <bidossessi> syn-ack, hibernate uses disk, suspend uses ram
[13:40] <indus> miked595: ya hihih mine is an nvidia problem i think
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> fasta: sure
[13:41] <indus> ok bidossessi has some fresh info :)
[13:41] <syn-ack> bidossessi, yeah, and where exactly is the swap partition?
[13:41] <mrXX> jrib try this ip which works for me 10.80.49.97
[13:41] <bidossessi> syn-ack, sorry, not meant for you, typo
[13:41] <olman67> Dr_Willis, agreed, there have been massive updates to linux since the late 90's
[13:41] <indus> suspend to ram is correct
[13:41] <miked595> indus: I get some tuxonice binary sig not found error
[13:41] <London90> exitr
[13:41] <Younder> Dr_Willis, Yes. I ran a redhat 5.0 version back then
[13:41] <indus> miked595: yikes whats that
[13:41] <anon_> I have 4 GB of RAM now, thanks! :)
[13:41] <indus> anon_: you installed 64 bit?
[13:41] <jrib> mrXX: nope
[13:42] <anon_> No, i installed the server kernel.
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> anon_: cool
[13:42] <meatbun> bidossessi, it's over a WAN connection. not my local LAN
[13:42] <syn-ack> Dr_Willis, My point to the young man is that I'm quite experienced.
[13:42] <Younder> Dr_Willis, Now it's fedora and redhat is commmercial distribution
[13:42] <anon_> thnx, ActionParsnip
[13:42] <jrib> mrXX: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address#IPv4_private_addresses
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> anon_: i'd install the 64bit Ubuntu if you want access to any more
[13:42] <anon_> I'll do in the future.
[13:42] <meatbun> bidossessi, though i am curious via ur method
[13:42] <bidossessi> meatbun, then you should be able to use the "connect to server" widget
[13:42] <Lint> tigertiger, can you press Alt+F2 and tell us what happens?
[13:43] <indus> heh iam a young man :)
[13:43] <indus> cool
[13:43] <Younder> ActionParsnip, better have more RAM.. 64 bit usuallly needs 2 Gb these days
[13:43] <tigertiger> Run Application
[13:43] <tigertiger> Dialog
[13:43] <indus> ActionParsnip: hi whats up
[13:43] <tigertiger> apperas
[13:43] <meatbun> bidossessi, u widget or click on 'connect to server' from somewhere?
[13:44] <tigertiger> when i press Alt+F2
[13:44] <fasta> Is there also an easy way to switch from 32 bit Ubuntu to 64 bits?
[13:44] <Lint> type there xterm and press Enter. Then type lsb_release -a and tell us what's written
[13:44] <indus> ActionParsnip: what was that trick of using more swap space or other way round
[13:44] <bidossessi> meatbun, you can add that to the panel by rightclicking on it, i believe
[13:44] <erUSUL> fasta: reinstall
[13:44] <indus> fasta: none
[13:44] <fasta> erUSUL, will that save my /home?
[13:44] <xt28> !enter | tigertiger
[13:44] <Younder> fasta, no, it's a reinstall
[13:44] <indus> fasta: reinstall only
[13:44] <indus> fasta: hmm yes
[13:45] <indus> Younder: if its a separate home , then yes
[13:45] <bidossessi> meatbun, in should give you a list of things you can add to your panel, and "connect to server" should be one of them
[13:45] <erUSUL> fasta: no; you will have to backup it yourself or maybe move it to its own parition that makes things easier
[13:45] <pkkm> how to install a font?
[13:45] <tigertiger> Ok
[13:45] <orlando_>  irc.explosionirc.net
[13:45] <Lint> pkkm, TrueType one?
[13:45] <meatbun> bidossessi, i found. that app is this? it looks like nautilus
[13:45] <indus> erUSUL: hhuh why? during partition i select option dont partition /home
[13:45] <DarwinSurvivor> how do i dissable unr in karmic?
[13:45] <syn-ack> !ops orlando_ advertising
[13:45] <syn-ack> nm
[13:45] <indus> what did i miss
[13:45] <dashavoo> I have resolved my wireless problem by blacklisting two modules, rt2800usb and rt2870sta, I have no idea which of these did the trick, it was a complete shot in the dark. Thought I would mention it incase anyone else comes here with a similar issue.
[13:45] <pkkm> Lint, yes
[13:45] <JohnMcDoe> who
[13:45] <ikonia> syn-ack: what's up ?
[13:46] <ikonia> syn-ack: I see, never mind
[13:46] <syn-ack> ikonia, he left as I hit enter. Sorry about that
[13:46] <Younder> indus, ? You remove the 32 bit version and reinstall or you add a 64 bit version.
[13:46] <ikonia> syn-ack: not a problem
[13:46] <tigertiger> Madpilot :  i have a system menu , and with an Administration submenu ...
[13:46] <Lint> pkkm, drop it in /usr/share/fonts/truetype . It should work immediately
[13:46] <indus> i reinstall a 64 bit version over my older 32 bit install but i had a separate home partition, its fine and untouched
[13:46] <AmokPaule> Hello, in which file is the rootpassword stored?
[13:46] <miked595> so no one ever got hibernate to actually work?
[13:47] <erUSUL> AmokPaule: ubuntu has no root password
[13:47] <legend2440> tigertiger: right click  the word  Applications on top panel and choose Edit Menus  brows to Administration. is  Software Sources there? if so put check mark next to it
[13:47] <indus> during partition just give the K parameter
[13:47] <Madpilot> tigertiger, OK, good. but no Software Sources item on the Admin submenu?
[13:47] <syn-ack> erUSUL, yes it does. its scrambled
[13:47] <ikonia> AmokPaule: /etc/passwd for the account and /etc/shadow for the account, be aware there is no real root password available though
[13:47] <syn-ack> erUSUL, and its not meant to be changed
[13:47] <Madpilot> ubottu, root | AmokPaule
[13:47] <indus> AmokPaule: /etc/passwd
[13:47] <xt28> syn-ack: no.
[13:47] <erUSUL> syn-ack: i know all that been using linux since 1998 too ;P is the short answer
[13:47] <indus> AmokPaule: /etc/shadow sorry
[13:47] <ikonia> indus: no - that is not the passwd
[13:47] <olvap> any one know a good ruby server?
[13:47] <indus> ikonia: sorry
[13:48] <indus> ikonia: /etc/shadow?
[13:48] <ikonia> olvap: ruby is a scripting language
[13:48] <indus> is correct
[13:48] <ikonia> indus: correct
[13:48] <Younder> AmokPaule, you probably want sudo su,
[13:48] <indus> thanks
[13:48] <indus> was a mistype
[13:48] <erUSUL> !rootshell | AmokPaule
[13:48] <sipior> syn-ack: no, the account is disabled.
[13:48] <Younder> AmokPaule, from the command line
[13:48] <ikonia> Younder: no he doesn't
[13:48] <ikonia> AmokPaule: what are you actually looking to do ?
[13:48] <syn-ack> sipior, wasnt aware they physically disabled the account now. :/
[13:48] <om26er> can any1 tell me plz how will mutter work with nvidia card out of box in the future of gnome. are here any plans for that?
[13:48] <JohnMcDoe> quit
[13:48] <indus> AmokPaule: root user is not recommended and neither adviced here unless your question is something else
[13:49] <Younder> Ikonia ?
[13:49] <PND> Hello everyone. I have a problem with a software, it says SDL_SetVideoMode failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual, then quit. I have Direct Rendering enabled.
[13:49] <ikonia> om26er: join #gnome on irc.gnome.org for gnome development paths
[13:49] <om26er> ikonia: thanx
[13:49] <tigertiger> Madpilot :  Yes
[13:50] <W4gn3r> \who bluedusk
[13:50] <AmokPaule> Thanks all
[13:51] <Madpilot> tigertiger, strange, it should be there by default. You can change the software sources inside Synaptic still, though.
[13:51] <friendishan> epinky
[13:51] <indus> does call of duty work on ubuntu?
[13:51] <bidossessi> wow did this channel just massively quiet down or what?
[13:51] <legend2440> tigertiger: right click  the word  Applications on top panel and choose Edit Menus  browse to Administration. is  Software Sources there? if so put check mark next to it
[13:51] <ikonia> indus: ask the wind guys
[13:51] <ikonia> wine
[13:51] <tigertiger> Madpilot :  i am newer for Ubuntu ,  i install it today ,never use it before
[13:51] <indus> ikonia: :)
[13:51] <bazhang> indus, check the appdb
[13:52] <olvap> ikonia: so? ok, i need a web server to run and application, i need a good server
[13:52] <PND> bidossessi, it seems so.
[13:52] <ikonia> olvap: apache is the standard
[13:52] <erUSUL> !appdb > indus
[13:52] <indus> erUSUL: thanks
[13:52] <Madpilot> tigertiger, no problem. Let me start Synaptic here so I can give you better directions.
[13:52] <tigertiger> Legend:  what is Word application
[13:52] <indus> erUSUL: i have checked it, but hmm
[13:52] <Valentina> I try to umount a hard drive so that I can format it, but I get this strange error: /home: device is busy.
[13:52] <pkkm> Lint, thanks
[13:52] <bidossessi> openoffice writer
[13:53] <bidossessi> tigertiger, openoffice writer
[13:53] <indus> Valentina: can you unmount the location then where you mounted it
[13:53] <erUSUL> Valentina: if the filesystem you try to umount is in use you ca not umunt it.
[13:53] <indus> Valentina: sudo umount /location/wherever
[13:53] <legend2440> tigertiger: on top panel see where it says   Apllications?  right click that and choose  Edit Menus
[13:53] <Valentina> I have a /dev/sdc drive that I have created a new partition on using fdisk and w.
[13:53] <legend2440> Applications
[13:53] <erUSUL> Valentina: seems like you are trying to umount your home partition. You can only do that from single user mode (recovery mode)
[13:53] <dorian__> hola
[13:54] <olvap> hosting, i need hosting, any ones knows a good one?
[13:54] <erUSUL> !es | dorian__
[13:54] <bidossessi> Valentina, is the drive mounted by the system or by you (manually)
[13:54] <dashavoo> olvap: I use bytemark and have been happy with them for years
[13:54] <Valentina> erUSUL: Hm, I get confused, I hade sda1 and sdb1 before, then I iserted a new hard drive and booted. Hoe could sdc1 be in use?
[13:54] <olvap> dashavoo: years?
[13:54] <Valentina> bloodw: Not by me.
[13:54] <Valentina> bidossessi: Not by me, that for sure.
[13:55] <Madpilot> tigertiger, in Synaptic, go Settings->Repositories
[13:55] <ikonia> olvap: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic as this is a support channel only
[13:55] <Valentina> bloodw: Sorry, that wanät ment for you.
[13:55] <Valentina> *wasn't
[13:55] <indus> Valentina: check by typing command mount to see where each is mounted
[13:55] <bidossessi> Valentina, try running "mount" int console to see where it's mounted to
[13:55] <erUSUL> Valentina: maybe the new disk changed the order of the disks. sdb is now sdc and viceversa
[13:55] <Newbuntu2> MeVsTheVoices: in particular, post #8 does exactly what I need, I just have no clue how to do it: http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=13757
[13:55] <erUSUL> Valentina: that's why we use uuid
[13:55] <tigertiger> Madpilot :  I  did it now
[13:55] <Madpilot> tigertiger, make sure all five checkboxes on that first tab are ticked, then let it reload sources
[13:55] <erUSUL> !uuid | Valentina
[13:55] <tigertiger> open a dialog
[13:56] <user1> Is realplayer for linux only for 90 days??
[13:56] <Madpilot> tigertiger, then you should be able to find that mp3 package you were looking for
[13:56] <Lint> what is the best place to report Gnome bugs ib Ubuntu?
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> user1:  thers some free version.. but ive never needed to use reaplayer in liniux  in ages
[13:56] <erUSUL> !bugs | Lint
[13:56] <indus> Lint: launchpad is good,
[13:56] <erUSUL> !info helixplayer
[13:57] <miked595> !hiberbate
[13:57] <miked595> damn
[13:57] <Valentina> Shit, it says /dev/sdb1 as / and /dev/sdc1 as /home. Is the /dev/sdc1 my Home partition?!
[13:57] <indus> Dr_Willis: what is real player used for anyway?
[13:57] <xt28> Valentina: yes.
[13:57] <indus> Valentina: yess
[13:57] <PND> Hello everyone. I have a problem with a software, it says SDL_SetVideoMode failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual, then quit. I have Direct Rendering enabled.
[13:57] <erUSUL> Valentina: yes it is
[13:57] <indus> Valentina: why do you want to unmount that
[13:57] <miked595> this blows
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> indus:  majer league baseball web site.. and rmv/rmvb video files I guess.. I dont watch baseball.. and I can play the others with vlc/mplayer
[13:58] <konstbac> hallo
[13:58] <indus> Dr_Willis: its a crappy formatreally
[13:58] <deebee> good morning]
[13:58] <Tatzelbrumm> Where would I find documentation how ubuntu [9.10 and 9.04] configure mice/touchpads ?
[13:58] <Valentina> What have I done! I tried to format it! I run sudo fdisk /dev/sdc1 then I deleted using a partiton using d option and then I run it again created a new using n and finnished off by using w.
[13:58] <indus> Dr_Willis: used to be good longtime ago
[13:58] <jrib> !synaptics | Tatzelbrumm
[13:58] <indus> Valentina: oh
[13:58] <jrib> Tatzelbrumm: for mouse pads
[13:58] <deebee> have challenge of putting email in
[13:59] <indus> thats really bad
[13:59] <_marix> anyone happen to know if there is any problems with the ath9k drivers?
[13:59] <Valentina> But I rebooted and it is still there. So nothing happend when I tried to reboot.
[13:59] <mosta> can any 1 help me with sharing
[13:59] <mosta> hi all :)
[13:59] <resno> hey
[13:59] <Valentina> But I didn't hear the computer reboot, so meybe it didn't but I was thrown out of my ssh to the computer.
[13:59] <xt28> Valentina: fdisk doesn't format drives, afaik. it only edits partition tables.
[14:00] <resno> !ask | mosta
[14:00] <Valentina> xt28: Yeah, I ment that. I used sudo fdisk /dev/sdc1 and then (d) option and then (n) option and last of all the (w) option. What have I done?
[14:01] <yareckon> erUSUL, thanks, chroot fixed me after my upgrade explosion
[14:01] <xt28> Valentina: chances are, not much damage.
[14:01] <erUSUL> yareckon: no problem. just make sure to send me some beers ;)
[14:01] <xt28> Valentina: if your new partition matches the old partition in size, nothing much happened,
[14:01] <sobersabre> hi wizards of ubuntu 9.10.
[14:02] <Valentina> xt28: Did I remove the partition table on the sdc drive and created a new one that hopefully is the same or what?
[14:02] <xt28> Valentina: if it is the same, there is no problem.
[14:02] <sobersabre> something's changed in grub version, and I need to change which is the default boot option. what do I read for this ?
[14:02] <theadmin> jrib: It's me again. After playing a bit with symlinks i completely messed stuff up XD... so i decided to go with firefox from repos as you told me.
[14:02] <erUSUL> sobersabre: /etc/default/grub <<<
[14:02] <xt28> Valentina: did you create a new partition (at least) as big as the old one?
[14:02] <jrib> theadmin: good plan :)
[14:02] <erUSUL> !grub2 | sobersabre
[14:02] <Valentina> xt28: Well, I'm afraid something will happend next time I boot my computer?
[14:02] <theadmin> jrib: It works now, thanks a lot.
[14:02] <iceroot> !grub2 | sobersabre
[14:02] <mosta> i wanna some tell me how i can share with samba
[14:02] <Kinshuk> hello everyone.. can i ask for some little troubleshooting help ?
[14:02] <sobersabre> erUSUL: ok... reading.
[14:02] <xt28> Valentina: and did you delete any other partitions?
[14:02] <iceroot> !ask | Kinshuk
[14:03] <tigertiger> Madpilot : sorry to tell you that :  i cannot find yet
[14:03] <Kinshuk> i need help fixing grub 1.5 error 18
[14:03] <bidossessi> !suspend
[14:03] <PND> I have a problem with a software, it says SDL_SetVideoMode failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual, then quit. I have Direct Rendering enabled. (software name is Gravit)
[14:03] <Valentina> xt28: I used (d) option that shall delete an old partition. So yes.
[14:03] <bidossessi> !s2ram
[14:03] <tigertiger> can you tell me the five checkboxes specific name or label?
[14:04] <user1> I just installed realplayer but a certificate is quite awkward which says it has no warranty after 90 days
[14:04] <bazhang> user1, no need for that; at least under more recent version of ubuntu
[14:05] <xt28> Valentina: here's what i meant: if you deleted exactly one partition, and created a new partition in its space and if this new partition is at least as big as the one you deleted, there shouldn't be a problem.
[14:05] <mosta> so
[14:05] <mosta> guyz ... any 1 can help a beginner user
[14:05] <xt28> Valentina: if you deleted several partitions before creating a new one, this might be different.
[14:05] <legend2440> tigertiger: (main) (universe) (restricted)  (multiverse)   and  Source Code
[14:05] <bidossessi> Valentina, the sdc1 is, from what you said, your home partition. you won't be able to remove it
[14:05] <user1> bazhang : I dont know but there is a small bit which adds to streaming music in realplayer which i can distinguish from mplayer/ totem / vlc
[14:06] <bidossessi> Valentina, you can try a live cd
[14:06] <Newbuntu2> I'm having a problem with my partitions - I screwed up the MBR with GParted, it seems. Which is the right channel for booting problems? I posted the issue [http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=13765 ] and it seems it's just resetting a couple of bits, but don't know how to....
[14:06] <mosta> SAMBA GUYZ
[14:06] <mosta> i wanna share files HOW ?
[14:06] <Newbuntu2> nobody is answering and this is my work computer....
[14:06] <Kinshuk> i upgraded my motherboard coz my old board was burned... upgraded from genuineintel DG31 to DG41... now when i boot my system, i get an error 18 at grub stage 1.5 - i have ubuntu 9.04 and win vista ultimate
[14:06] <Madpilot> tigertiger, under "Downloadable from the Internet" there should be five lines w/ checkboxes
[14:06] <coz_> Newbuntu2,  if no one here has a solution for you you might want to go to the  #grub  channel   :)
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc  | mosta
[14:07] <user1> bazhang : specially if you want all those violin and frequencies to just be the way they are . my ears are becoming too much distinguishive to music and noise nowadays :)
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> mosta:  i just rigght clicked on a folder and used 'share' and it shared it to my lan. :) i did set a proper workgroup in /etc/samba/smb.conf first however
[14:08] <Valentina> bidossessi: Yea, but maybe it will mess up the partition table next time I boot because of my fdisk (d) then (n) and at last (w)?
[14:08] <xt28> Valentina: the partition table doesn't change across reboots.
[14:08] <bidossessi> Valentina, fdisk does what it does right now, not later
[14:08] <Kinshuk> how do i fix the grub 18 error at stage 1.5 ?
[14:09] <Valentina> xt28: Well, I still can reach the files on the partition so then it wouldnät harm my partition messing with fdisk then?
[14:09] <Valentina> *wouldn't
[14:09] <xt28> Valentina: when in doubt, compare the partition layout in /proc/partitions with the partition layout on the disk (that fdisk shows you).
[14:09] <epinky> mosta: is samba already installed?
[14:09] <Valentina> xt28: Ok.
[14:09] <theadmin> firefox crashed... apport is not reacting. WTF
[14:10] <kartook> how can i update the GPG keys ? always showing no available ... or how can i get the new GPG key ?
[14:10] <Valentina> xt28: There is a dm-0 partition in /proc/partitions, what's that?
[14:10] <xt28> Valentina: a device mapper partition.
[14:11] <bidossessi> Valentina, it seems you installed the system after you inserted the hdd, or that your fstab file was changed to use that disk. i suggest you figure out what you did before thinking about formatting, and potentially loosing data
[14:11] <xt28> Valentina: used for encrypted devices, lvm etc.
[14:11] <prageeth> how to install dotnet frame work in ubuntu
[14:11] <bidossessi> prageeth, mono
[14:11] <theadmin> kartook: To create a key, type this into a terminal: gpg --gen-key
[14:11] <Valentina> xt28: Aha, for my encrypted home partition then, I think.
[14:12] <bidossessi> dotnet framework is a windows technology. the equivalent for linux (although not quite the same) is mono, child of the notorious novell
[14:12] <xt28> Valentina: wait, i thought sdc1 was your home partition?
[14:12] <gangrenator> join #fw
[14:13] <gangrenator> quit
[14:13] <Valentina> Well, the thing that fooled me was that my new hard drivw somehoe got sda. That's really strange, before I had sda and sdb, then I inserted a new hard drive and I thought it would be sdc not sda and moving my old drives one step lower???
[14:13] <bidossessi> Valentina, the system does not shuffle your mount points around on it's own. if your sdc is now mounted on /home,, then it means you installed it that way
[14:14] <drover> #filelist
[14:14] <ascheel> Is there a way to choose which logins are used in the gdm login screen and which ones don't show?
[14:14] <Tamale> hello everyone!  Why do dark themes mess up font colors in firefox? I have "allow webpages to choose their own fonts" checked
[14:14] <L337hium> i have to ask some about to build my own ubuntu server live cd? is this the right place?
[14:14] <bidossessi> unless you have a mix of sata and ide, where some mess could ensue
[14:14] <mahngiel> l337hium: i know a little about that
[14:15] <kartook> in my sources.list Repos need to update the GPG keys ? how can i update the GPG keys for my sources .list
[14:15] <xt28> Valentina: on the other hand, drive letters (sda, sdb, sdc) are subject to change across reboots. (hence, uuids as has been pointed out.)
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> kartook: if you can use a pastebin of the output of: sudo apt-get update    I can advise
[14:15] <L337hium> mahngiel, k i read some tutorials and tried remastersys on my ubuntu server 9.10. but i cant boot the .iso in virtualbox and all tutorials i found used kde/gnome :/
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> !paste | kartook
[14:16] <bidossessi> xt28, using uuid or /dev device names is not a choice left to the user afaik
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> L337hium: did you md5 test the iso?
[14:16] <mbeierl> Valentina: sorry - joining in late to the discussion - some sata controllers insert drives higher than others on the board - the new drive might have a higher number id and that's why it shows up first
[14:16] <mahngiel> ty A.P.
[14:16] <Valentina> bidossessi: Ok, well, I think it wouldn't mess up them on it's own. I can see I have my /home at sdc and my file system at sdb. And I can't even see the new hard drive using sudo fdisk -l because of it's not mounted?
[14:16] <L337hium> ActionParsnip, i thin remastersys should do so
[14:16] <xt28> bidossessi: with a free operating system, almost any choice is left to the user...
[14:17] <mahngiel> l337hium: try downloading a prgm called md5sum
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> L337hium: no, its not its job, it just sees an iso file
[14:17] <kartook> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-security/multiverse Packages
[14:17] <kartook> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-security/multiverse Sources
[14:17] <kartook> W: Failed to fetch http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages  404 Not Found [IP: 78.141.179.3 80]
[14:17] <kartook> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[14:17] <kartook> kartook@moon:~$
[14:17] <FloodBot1> kartook: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> L337hium: test the file, make sure it passes checks, you may be using a corrupted file
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> kartook: i said to use pastebin, I even gave you the link!
[14:17] <Valentina> mbeierl: I have some old IDE connected hard drives of only 20-40 GB.
[14:17] <bidossessi> xt28, maybe i should rephrase: the casual user.
[14:17] <L337hium> ActionParsnip, k i'm back soon… testing
[14:17] <L337hium> thx!
[14:17] <mahngiel> l336hium: and make sure the iso file you are burning to the cd gets unpackaged on the cd
[14:17] <xt28> Valentina: fdisk -l should list all partitions.
[14:18] <bidossessi> xt28, after all, not everyone pops up the hood
[14:18] <xt28> Valentina: the man page says it uses /proc/partitions
[14:18] <mbeierl> Valentina: ide?  showing up as /dev/sdX ?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> all drives are IDE ;)
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> technically
[14:18] <kartook> here you go sorry forthe flooed   :    http://pastebin.ca/1664902
[14:18] <bidossessi> ActionParsnip, yes, technically,, but you know what we mean :p
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> i got an ide floppy ls120 drive :)(
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> bidossessi: i do, its my thing :P
[14:19] <Laibcoms> Valentina: my experience with Karmic, the system follows your mboard's "cable" order not the bios. I had drive mixed ups when I moved to Karmic, might be related.
[14:19] <xt28> bidossessi: we have already established that Valentina used fdisk to edit the partition table. i read that as popping up the hood. (apart from that, you're right, though.)
[14:19] <xt28> !uuid | Laibcoms
[14:19] <xt28> Laibcoms: you should use UUIDs.
[14:19] <Mwa> How do I close those damn notifications that pop up whever anything happens, don't go away for ages and temporarily vanish as soon as I try to click on them to close them, only to reappear as soon as I move my mouse away?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> kartook: the repo you are having issues with does not exists
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> kartook: you should review the skype line
[14:20] <Mwa> Because they're driving me absolutely crazy. >:(
[14:20] <bidossessi> Valentina, i assume that you know which hdd hold which partition. using uuids, you should be able to force the system to mount them where they belong
[14:20] <kartook> okie
[14:20] <Valentina> mbeierl: Well, I think it's old IDE that the interface of old hard drives?
[14:20] <mahngiel> has there been any progress on the suspend issue?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> kartook: if you put the address of the repo in a browser, it should display the files, that line does not
[14:20] <Laibcoms> xt28: yep I am using UUID, since Jaunty :)  I also double-checked it when I upgraded to Karmic, the system doesn't want to follow my HDD boot order via my bios :p
[14:20] <pranav> fast please -ssh is installed in my ubuntu but when I do "service ssh" it says unrecognized service, how do I run the service so that my friend can login in the next room ?
[14:20] <mbeierl> Valentina: it's the "wide/fat" cable, right, not the newer thin red cable...
[14:20] <xt28> Laibcoms: all right.
[14:21] <bidossessi> mahngiel, i don't know, and that's actually my only gripe with ubuntu
[14:21] <gnusar> how can i customize the nautilus file browser?
[14:21] <moreia> I have a couple of hidden directories called things like .fr-cIGcnw and .fr-AnmIr9 each with what appears to be a complete copy of my entire /home/ directory in it.
[14:21] <kartook> can i use this link for generating the repos for me :   http://pastebin.ca/1664906
[14:21] <bidossessi> gnusar, 'customize' meaning?
[14:21] <mahngiel> bidossessi, heard that
[14:21] <Laibcoms> xt28: something must have been updated in Karmic and it is working as intended now.  but in Jaunty it wasn't hehe ^_^
[14:21] <moreia> Any idea what these are? I can't figure out useful terms to search on.
[14:21] <xt28> mbeierl, how does that matter? Valentina, are you unsure which partition is on which physical disk?
[14:21] <Valentina> mbeierl: It's the wide flat cable absolutely not the sats2 cables that you use with newer mobos.
[14:22] <domelek> hi
[14:22] <gnusar> bidossessi: well in fact i was wondering if i can add a button that opens the terminal or generally executes an app.... like a button on panels on the desktop
[14:22] <pranav> somebidy, fast please -ssh is installed in my ubuntu but when I do "service ssh" it says unrecognized service, how do I run the service so that my friend can login in the next room ?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Valentina: ide == integrated drive electronics, all new dives have them, even scsi. Old drive back in the day didnt have the small pcb so had no cache or intelligence and relied solely on the controller for instruction. The new iDE drives came out and its just stuck, technically any drive with a little controller circuit is IDE, SATA drives are ISE too. People really mean PATA or parallel ATA ;)
[14:22] <Valentina> mbeierl: There are may oins at the back of the hard drive, not a SATA2 interface.
[14:22] <domelek> jest tu jakis polak ?
[14:22] <Valentina> *many oins
[14:22] <Valentina> *pins
[14:22] <bidossessi> gnusar, are you talking about launchers on the desktop or on the panel (taskbar)
[14:22] <naoufel> hi
[14:23] <gnusar> bidossessi: nope, about the file browser
[14:23] <mbeierl> xt28, Valentina: I was just confused that ubuntu now starts reporting the old /dev/hdX as /dev/sdX.  Prior versions used to report PATA (or 40-pin ide, or whatever) as hd not sd.
[14:23] <xt28> Valentina: this is getting confusing. can you re-state the problem that you are trying to solve?
[14:23] <kartook> can i use this link for generating the repos for me :   http://pastebin.ca/1664906
[14:23] <bidossessi> gnusar, why would you want to do that? can you do it in antoher OS?
[14:23] <xt28> mbeierl: true.
[14:24] <Madpilot> mbeierl, that change happened a couple of Ubuntu releases ago - some change in the underlying libraries, apparently
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> kartook: skype is on the medibuntu repo
[14:24] <Valentina> ActionParsnip: Ok, I don't know but when I look into a regular computer store there are often two kinds of 3.5" hard drives, one they call IDE and one named SATA2.
[14:24] <bidossessi> mbeierl, that's been changed a while ago. now everything's just sdX
[14:24] <xt28> Madpilot: yes.
[14:24] <stevecoh1> Using Karmic, though this pertains to other versions as well.  I would like to copy the icon from one launcher to another.  But I know of no way to find where the launcher got the icon from and no cut/paste capability exists for this.  How do I find out where the first launcher is finding the icon?
[14:24] <mahngiel> Valentina, different kinds of plugs
[14:24] <xt28> Madpilot: the kernel, to be more precise.
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Valentina: i know, its common and people know what is meant but its not rigt but the language serves its purpose so its ok
[14:25] <gnusar> bidossessi: i don't know.. that's why i am asking :) just wanted to know if there is the possibility to do such changes..
[14:25] <mahngiel> Valentina: IDE/PATA are an older type of MB connections and read/write slower than the newer SATA
[14:25] <Valentina> xt28: Well, I tried to connect a new hard drive (an old one actually) and partioning it and formatting it into ext4. I think I know how to do that, the problem is...
[14:25] <resno> !pm
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> kartook: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[14:25] <kartook> can i use this link for generating the repositories for my ubuntu  :   http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[14:25] <bidossessi> gnusar, not that i know of, but then i havent' explored nautilus that much.
[14:25] <zaoul> What can I use to make a data dvd iso?
[14:25] <mbeierl> Madpilot, bidossessi: shows how much attention I've been paying.  Ok, so that's why UIDs have become so popular...
[14:25] <gnusar> bidossessi: okay thank you anyways
[14:26] <xt28> mbeierl: one of the main reasons, yes.
[14:26] <bidossessi> mbeierl, pretty useful, themm uuid buggers, even though they can be a hand(type)ful
[14:26] <mahngiel> zaoul: just burn under data dvd/cd
[14:26] <ph8> hi all, does anyone have a spotify-remote type thing (from iphone/android) working with spotify over wine in ubuntu?
[14:26] <mahngiel> zaul: if you want an image burned to be executable, then you burn the iso to disk. not the same as putting it on the disk as traditional data
[14:27] <zaoul> mahngiel: I want to rip, and no its not bootlegg, it's a previously created dvd
[14:27] <stevecoh1> anyone have an answer to my query about copying icons from one launcher to another?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> zaoul: if its just pure data to then burn you can use mkisofs
[14:27] <zaoul> orly
[14:27] <Valentina> ... that I thought my new drive would be at /dev/sdc BUT then it seems like my /home was at /dev/sdc. That's very strange because I installed Ubuntu Server from scratch, the file system on one hard drive and the /home on another single hard drive. So then I think Ubuntu Server will call the drives sda and sdb and I'm pretty sure it did until I plugged in another on (hard drive nr 3). Then it looks like Ubuntu Serve
[14:27] <Laibcoms> stevecoh1: The only way I know is finding where that icon you want to copy is located.
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> stevecoh1: if you open the .desktop file in a text editor, you will see an icon line
[14:28] <stevecoh1> But the first launcher won't tell me that.  Can launchers be viewed as text somehow?
[14:28] <equivoc> hello, is it slightly possible that 09.10 is a big pile of shit?
[14:28] <xt28> Valentina: are you trying to figure out why the device names changed? trying to find out whether your data is okay? something else?
[14:28] <Valentina> I think Ubuntu Server somehow moved my old sda to sdb and the old sdb to sdc when I inserted a new hard drive that probably will be sda for now?
[14:29] <equivoc> i'm using ubuntu since 06.04, but this one is a real disappointment
[14:29] <legend2440> stevecoh1: is this a launcher you created or is it one in the Menu?  which launcher is it?
[14:29] <elky> equivoc, this isn't the place to discuss such opinion.
[14:29] <bidossessi> +1
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> stevecoh1: yes, they are located were you have copied them to (most likely desktop) or in /usr/share/applications
[14:29] <mbeierl> Valentina: when you put the new drive in, it re-ordered the disks as they are found on the motherboard.  If you remove the new disk, you will probably see things go back to normal
[14:29] <equivoc> elky: where is this place?
[14:30] <PupenoG> I have two servers, one of them is running nagios and monitoring both. Both servers have firewalls and the port used by nagios for remote monitoring is blocked by ufw (and confirmed by nmap); how is it possible that nagios still tell me that everything is ok?
[14:30] <joakim> Valentina: sda/sdb and so forth are determined after which sata controller it sits on, hdd on  controller 0 becomes sda, controller 1 sdb etc
[14:30] <ikonia> PupenoG: depends on your nagios setup, nagios maybe also checking with basic tools like ping
[14:30] <stevecoh1> It's the one for eclipse.  There is a bug fix to launch eclipse from a shell script to fix a mouse problem in karmic.  I have written the shell script but I would like to give it the same icon the original launcher had.  Looking through all the eclipse directory structure for this icon is an exercise in frustration.
[14:30] <ikonia> PupenoG: the port service is only for client to client communication
[14:30] <elky> equivoc, there's lots of channels on freenode for you to choose from. #ubuntu ones are no place for bad language and unsubstantiated criticism of #ubuntu.
[14:30] <PupenoG> ikonia: I have the amount of users and processes of the remote machine.
[14:31] <moreia> ﻿I have a couple of hidden directories called things like .fr-cIGcnw and .fr-AnmIr9 each with what appears to be a complete copy of my entire /home/ directory in it. ﻿ Any idea what these are? I can't figure out useful terms to search on.
[14:31] <mbeierl> equivoc: I've been using Ubuntu since 4.10, and some releases have been more smooth than others, I agree.  But I've been using 9.10 since alpha 2, and think it's great for a non-LTS release.  If you want stable, stick with LTS
[14:31] <Valentina> xt28: Well, I thought the new drive was sdc so I run sudo fdisk on it and then tried to delete a partition using the (d) option in fdisk, then I tried to create a new one using (n) oprtion and last of all I run (w) option to write the new partition table. Then I tried to format the sdc and noticed that it was the /home directory in use!!! So, my first question is, what the heck did I do to my /home partition at sdc
[14:31] <pranav> How can I copy files from ssh client to my computer
[14:31] <pranav> ?
[14:31] <bidossessi> pranav, man scp
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> !scp | pranav
[14:31] <ikonia> PupenoG: it's a two way chat, is the client sending back to the server ?
[14:31] <mahngiel> valentina, sounds like you tried to delete yourself, mate!
[14:32] <equivoc> mbeierl: i just said yes to the upgrade from yesterday
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> stevecoh1: try: sudo find / -iname "*.png"     which may help, you could just download one from the web instead
[14:32] <Valentina> joakim: So if I plug in a new hard drive it will change which drive is sda, sdb and sdc?
[14:32] <bidossessi> Valentina, the suggestion to remove the offending new drive seems sensible to me.
[14:32] <xt28> Valentina: i tried to answer that question above. should i clarify something? repeat?
[14:32] <PupenoG> ikonia: not sure. I think the nagios on the remote server doesn't know where nagios is running, so it can't communicate back.
[14:32] <kartook> can i use this link for generating the repositories for my ubuntu  :   http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[14:32] <stevecoh1> thanks
[14:32] <ikonia> PupenoG: it must do, the clients have a server configuration so they know where to send back to
[14:32] <Valentina> xt28: Yeah, you told me to check /proc/partitions, right?
[14:32] <bidossessi> Valentina, in the meantime you should kee track of your drive's uuid so as not to get more confused in the future
[14:32] <BluesKaj> Valentina, use GParted live cd, you can't partition while running an OS
[14:33] <mbeierl> Valentina: if you already used fdisk to alter the partition table, don't reboot just yet
[14:33] <bidossessi> !uuid
[14:33] <xt28> Valentina: yes.
[14:33] <naoufel> forza OPNBSD
[14:33] <xt28> BluesKaj: yes, you can.
[14:33] <joakim> Valentina: not necessarily. maybe you had hdd's connected on sata controllers 1 and 2, then if you connect a third hdd on sata controller 0, all devices becomes different
[14:33] <IdleOne> !it | naoufel
[14:33] <equivoc> elky: how can ssh segfault?
[14:33] <TheTom> Hello ubuntu-people! I'm following the guide located @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile but can't find a debian directory on my system, and thus not the "debian/rules updateconfigs" command. I found my kernel config file under /boot . Any hints? Maybe there's a newer guide, iæve just upgraded to Karmic.
[14:33] <joakim> Valentina: but if you had devices on controllers 0 and 1, and left them like that and connected the third drive on controller 2, it shouldnt change
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> equivoc: its a software, so it can
[14:34] <PupenoG> ikonia: and at any rate, the other machine also has a strict firewall.
[14:34] <BluesKaj> xt28, well, an OS on the HDD that's being partitioned
[14:34] <mbeierl> Valentina: so what happened is you have altered the drive's layout for the partition, but as long as you have /home mounted, you can get the data off without too much trouble
[14:34] <Valentina> BluesKaj: I'm trying to partiton and format a whole new drive but the Ubuntu Server played me a joke changing my drives sda got sdb and sdb got sdc and the new one sda. The mad eme try to partiton and format my sdc (Home directry) instead of my new hard drive!
[14:34] <BluesKaj> sry shudda qualified that
[14:34] <ikonia> PupenoG: what port are you blocking ?
[14:34] <xt28> BluesKaj: i am not sure about that.
[14:34] <PupenoG> ikonia: all except 22, 53 and 9103.
[14:34] <BluesKaj> xt28, try and see what happens :)
[14:34] <mbeierl> Valentina: unfortunately, it's not a joke, it's the way drives work.  You are not supposed to rely on the /dev/sdX names to identify the drives :(
[14:35] <joakim> Valentina: You probably had hdd's on controllers 1 and 2, while you connected the new one on controller 0. Thus, the new hdd became /dev/sda/ while the old sda became sdb, and sdb became sdc
[14:35] <mbeierl> Valentina: do not reboot, do not umount /home yet
[14:35] <Valentina> mbeierl: I tried to reboot before, but I'm not sure the computer did, I got thrown out of ssh but I didn't herar the fans go off on the computer, I have it right by my sida but using ssh anyway.
[14:35] <lucijan> hi, i have two gdm related questions: (1) is there any way in the PostSession script to know which UID oder user logged out and (2) is there a way to remove the session/keyboard/etc. men
[14:35] <ojii> hi all
[14:35] <ikonia> PupenoG: what is running on 9103
[14:35] <mbeierl> Valentina: do you have access to /home anymore?
[14:35] <ojii> is there a way to run rhythmbox without pulseaudio?
[14:35] <PupenoG> ikonia: bacula.
[14:35] <llutz> BluesKaj: don't know how gparted works, but you can partition all you want, except changing mounted partitions
[14:35] <bidossessi> Valentina, to cut it short. use blkid to identify your hdds by their uuid, remove the new drive, harden your fstab by replaceing /dev/sdx by the corresponding uuid syntax. problem solved
[14:36] <ArchType> !it
[14:36] <xt28> Valentina: if you enough disk space available, i second mbeierl's advive. just to be save, back up your /home directory.
[14:36] <kartook> Pidgin is not showing my yahoo friends online list .the same same time i can access the mail box through Pidgin ? need help
[14:36] <ikonia> PupenoG: what port are you running nagios on ?
[14:36] <mbeierl> bidossessi: he's modified the partition table of his /home - he's going to need to recover his data before trying anything more...
[14:36] <Valentina> mbeierl: Yeah, I know I can't trust the sdX anymore, but I thought it was always the same! :S
[14:36] <PupenoG> ikonia: not sure, let me check, but I can tell you the default, I didn't change it.
[14:36] <BluesKaj> llutz, very dangerous practice
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> kartook: yahoo change their servers a lot, you may need to find a different messeger server
[14:37] <mbeierl> Valentina: ok, so what state is the computer in now?
[14:37] <Valentina> mbeierl: Yeah, I have acess to /home and I have run ls -l on it without any problem at all.
[14:37] <Valentina> mbeierl: The computer is running.
[14:37] <bidossessi> mbeierl, for now, i believe fstab hasn't been touched yet, so it's possible.
[14:37] <mbeierl> Valentina: ok, good.  Do you have somewhere to store all the data of /home?
[14:37] <kartook> how to find find a differentyahoo  messeger servers ?
[14:37] <xt28> sorry, i've got to go. Valentina, i'll leave you in mbeierl's capable hands. =)
[14:37] <ikonia> PupenoG: can you pastebin the output of "iptables -L" please
[14:37] <mbeierl> xt28: thanks :)
[14:38] <Valentina> mbeierl: I'm logged into it using ssh (only having one display and trying to get used to remote control, but I have the server here by my side).
[14:38] <PupenoG> ikonia: sure.
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> kartook: websearch, m'boy, websearch
[14:38] <PupenoG> ikonia: nrpe is running on 5666.
[14:39] <bidossessi> ActionParsnip, +10
[14:39] <Valentina> xtmnx: Yeah, I will move a copy of my /home directory to my desktop computer to be sure.
[14:39] <mahngiel> has anybody found an enjoyable replacement for rhythmbox?
[14:39] <ikonia> PupenoG: ok, lets looks at your rules
[14:39] <bidossessi> mahngiel, banshee
[14:39] <mbeierl> Valentina: so, can you pastebin the output of cat /etc/fstab and mount, please?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> mahngiel: banshee
[14:39] <mahngiel> thanks
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> mahngiel: amarok if you dont mind bloat
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> !player
[14:39] <bidossessi> mahngiel, banshee, exaile (the dev version)
[14:39] <Valentina> mbeierl: There is not that much data, some shell scripts and a lot of text files, like 50 MB only.-
[14:39] <mahngiel> bidossessi: couldn't stand exaile
[14:39] <Valentina> mvbI have room for it,.
[14:39] <mbeierl> Valentina: what else is on that same hard drive?
[14:40] <kartook> thanks dude
[14:40] <kartook> :)
[14:40] <kartook> i learned new things to day
[14:40] <BluesKaj> mahngiel, VLC ftw
[14:40] <Valentina> mbeierl: Noting, like 50MB only, the drive has 40GB and almost all is free.
[14:40] <kartook> i will come daily iwill new things from you guys thanks a lot
[14:40] <mahngiel> blues, thanks mate :)
[14:40] <bidossessi> mahngiel, seems they've come a long way since the last installment. it looks pretty decent now, (the dev version though; stable stillsucks :p)
[14:40] <legend2440> stevecoh1: if find doesnt help    if eclipse is in the Menu ( i dont have eclipse installed so i dont know if it is)  then open  System>preferences>main menu  and highlight the Eclipse launcher and press Properties and then click on the icon. that may open a box to show where that png file is
[14:40] <Splendid> where pidgin put files from file transfers by default
[14:40] <Splendid> ?
[14:40] <Laibcoms> mahngiel: or songbird
[14:41] <Xcell> yucky
[14:41] <bidossessi> Splendid, where you tell it to :)
[14:41] <TheTom> I need the community!
[14:41] <mbeierl> Valentina: ok, good.  Is that the one that you attempted the fdisk on, thinking it was the new drive?  (I'm not being a jerk, just don't know a better way to ask it)
[14:41] <ojii> why does pulseaudio always auto-restart when i kill it?
[14:41] <mahngiel> TheTom, the community needs YOU
[14:41] <TheTom> Hello ubuntu-people! I'm following the guide located @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile but can't find a debian directory on my system, and thus not the "debian/rules updateconfigs" command. I found my kernel config file under /boot . Any hints? Maybe there's a newer guide, i've just upgraded to Karmic.
[14:41] <Xcell> audacious works great now.. it has shoutcast built init now
[14:41] <bidossessi> ojii, because the system needs it
[14:41] <Splendid> bidossessi, lol, but i didnt tell him anything
[14:41] <TheTom> mahngiel: oh, i'm here, and i'll answer if i can
[14:41] <Valentina> Well, I got somewhat confused, xt38 told me to compare the /proc/partitions by aomsetihng else to check what my fdisk did to my sdc partition talbe?
[14:41] <Valentina> *table
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> !kernel
[14:41] <Maxmim_2> hey people i want to a directory to a shell variable, and to remove one that i added wrong! Could someone provide me the code?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> same link, bah
[14:41] <iceroot> TheTom: debian/rules  is the structur of a package
[14:42] <ojii> bidossessi: is there no way to prevent that? Apparently some wine apps don't run if pulseaudio is running...
[14:42] <iceroot> TheTom: you can create the deb-structur for e.g. with dh_make
[14:42] <mahngiel> maxim, i don't understand your question
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Maxmim_2: export DIR1=/path/to/folder; cp file $DIR1
[14:42] <ampex> anyone know what the gnome console is called?
[14:42] <ampex> or the package it's contained in?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> ampex: terminal
[14:42] <iceroot> ampex: gnome-terminal
[14:42] <bidossessi> ojii, you can always remove pulseaudio, but since it's a gnome hard-dep, you'd really give yourself more headache for little gain
[14:42] <ampex> iceroot and ActionParsnip, thanks
[14:42] <adam12345678> i had to reinstall ubuntu karmic this morning, i reinstalled it on a different, larger , partition. how to i decrypt the home directory on the other partition to transfer files?
[14:42] <Maxmim_2> i want to add a directory to my PATH variable , and to remove one that i added wrong!
[14:42] <mbeierl> Valentina: sorry - I joined late into this.  I just want to make sure - when you type in "mount" does it show /home mounted on the same /dev/sdX as the one that you had used fdisk on?
[14:43] <Valentina> mbeierl: Yes, exactly, I attempt to partition the sdc (my /home) y misstake using sudp fdisk and then I tried to delete the sdc1 using (d) option in fdisk then I tried create a new one (n) option and at last I tried write it using the (w) option in fdisk.
[14:43] <ojii> bidossessi: but i remember being able to stop pulseaudio in 9.04...
[14:43] <ph8> how can a default ubuntu install still not be doing WPA properly??
[14:43] <ph8> it's my single biggest hate about ubuntu
[14:43] <Appiah> ph8: bugs
[14:43] <ph8> and/or linux dists
[14:43] <Appiah> 9.10?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Maxmim_2: export PATH=/path/to/folder:"${PATH}"
[14:43] <ph8> yep
[14:43] <TheTom> iceroot: uh, ok, thanks. But I think I just need to find the updateconfigs script.
[14:43] <xpo0f> hi people .. im here to help people :)
[14:44] <ph8> mythbuntu mind, but i see similar things on my straight ubuntu machine
[14:44] <mbeierl> Valentina: and now you have /dev/sdc /home backed up, right?  and sdc was the only one that was touched.  ok, so far so good.
[14:44] <bidossessi> ojii, i don't know that one. never had to stop pulseaudio
[14:44] <Valentina> mbeierl: I got through all those steps and I didn't notice I was messign with my /home until I tried to format it using sudo mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sdc1
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ph8: not all wifi can do wpa under linux
[14:44] <mbeierl> Valentina: I'm just playing it really safe
[14:44] <ph8> yeh that's ridiculous IMO
[14:44] <ph8> it's drivers i suppose
[14:44] <adam12345678> i had to reinstall ubuntu karmic this morning, i reinstalled it on a different, larger , partition. how to i decrypt the home directory on the other partition to transfer files?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ph8: blame the hardware manufacturers
[14:44] <ph8> but it should be the biggest area of priority along with graphics
[14:44] <ph8> indeed :/
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ph8: not supporting the OS
[14:44] <bidossessi> ph8, not linux's fault if manufacturers wo't realease their source code
[14:44] <Valentina> mbeierl: I haven't got time backing it up, I will right now. The sdc was the only drive I have been messing with, yes.
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> ph8: so its not Linux's fault, go moan at ati ;)
[14:45] <PupenoG> ikonia: http://gist.github.com/230916
[14:45] <xpo0f> bidossessi, agree wit that
[14:45] <ph8> was just venting really
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> ph8: replace moan with burn
[14:45] <biblioteca_> hello !
[14:45] <ph8> i'm about to switch my home media box to windows  media centre
[14:45] <ph8> mainly because of wifi problem
[14:45] <biblioteca_> ohhh
[14:45] <biblioteca_> stupid !
[14:45] <ph8> * problems
[14:45] <ascheel> Lots of people have been asking how to prevent a user name from being displayed in the GDM login screen.  I've finally found out how.  Drop their UID to something <1000 and that particular login will no longer show up in the gdm login list.
[14:45] <biblioteca_> ohhh
[14:45] <ph8> but now we've found one more issue which might not have mattered had wifi worked but i think it's enough to tip us over the edge
[14:45] <biblioteca_> suck my dick motherfuck !!!
[14:46] <LjL> !language | biblioteca_
[14:46] <Valentina> mbeierl: I'll do a backup now, will this work: scp -r /home valentina@(ip-address of my desktop computer):/home/valentina
[14:46] <YeTr2> ph8: If you believe that windows media center is the best option for you, then go for it.
[14:46] <mbeierl> Valentina: ok, so, it is also possible, that the partition that you deleted and then recreated was exactly the same, so there is no damage done at all, and the mkfs did the right thing and protected the data
[14:46] <adam12345678> i had to reinstall ubuntu karmic this morning, i reinstalled it on a different, larger , partition. how to i decrypt the home directory on the other partition to transfer files?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> ph8: if you shop smart you can buy compatible niceness rather than whats twinkliest or fastest ;)
[14:46] <bidossessi> ph8, had a look at xbmc lately?
[14:46] <rocknroll00> Hello, when I changed the user my unbuntu freezed. After that, I restart my computer, and while browsing the internet the computer suddently turn off. I try to turn on again but it turns off during the grub loader. After that I turn it on again and this time it works..... very strange this didn't happen before. Any idea?
[14:47] <catamarquence> had to come back to gnome... i dont know why kde is so unstable still...!
[14:47] <mahngiel> AP: werd
[14:47] <bidossessi> rocknroll00, check your temps
[14:47] <m0RrE> adam12345678: do you have the passphrase stored?
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> rocknroll00: i'd run the memtest in the grub menu
[14:47] <BluesKaj> ph8, why not just tell us your issues ... threatening to go back to windows won't help you , nobody cares
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> mahngiel: hola
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: +1
[14:47] <ph8> BluesKaj, sorry man, i'm not threatening - i'm a big ubuntu fan boy - this is only one of three machines
[14:47] <mbeierl> Valentina: so as soon as the scp is complete, you may be able to simply add the new drive by using it's "new" /dev/sda (or sdb) that it claimed, to create the new partition.  I'd suggest using gparted if you can ssh -X (or -Y) to the box
[14:47] <adam12345678> by pass phrase do you mean the login for the user?
[14:47] <m0RrE> no
[14:47] <legend2440> rocknroll00: could be memory overheating or bad power supply
[14:47] <ph8> Was largely just a vent as i say
[14:48] <CHESLYN> hi guys
[14:48] <m0RrE> adam12345678: the encryption key
[14:48] <kn100> what is the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[14:48] <mahngiel> hi
[14:48] <bidossessi> mbeierl, you don't want to go the uuid route? future-proof
[14:48] <ph8> So for my media centre, win media is looking like the best bet, but that because i want thinks like spotify integration
[14:48] <ph8> which i'm actually just about to discuss on the myth list
[14:48] <adam12345678> i clicked through that prompt i think because i was doing alot of synaptic stuff
[14:48] <ph8> wireless support i guess is being worked on, and we just discussed
[14:48] <mbeierl> Valentina: the reason I'd recommend gparted is that it does both partitioning and filesystem creation and it has the ability to warn you about live filesystems all in one
[14:48] <mbeierl> bidossessi: I think using gparted will give him uuid, no?
[14:48] <xpo0f> ph8, what myth list
[14:48] <adam12345678> does that mean its not set?
[14:48] <titusg> jaunty has removed the 'default X session' option from gdm -- how do I put it back?
[14:48] <Valentina> mbeierl: Yeah, the sudo mkfs didn't do anytihng I think, but maybe the sudo fdisk did? I was told to write number of cylinders(?) and starting block and ending block, I used starting block 1 and ending block 5005 (default).
[14:49] <YeTr2> ph8: also, I don't know the quality of network manager, but if you are configuring a HTC, I would say disable NM and configure the wireless connection manually, you'll probably get a better result.
[14:49] <savid> Hi, I'm not able to get a microphone working through the 3.5mm microphone jack on my laptop.   My sound card is intel HD audio (82801H - ICH8 Family).  It only records sound from my laptop's built-in mic.  How can I fix this?
[14:49] <ph8> xpo0f, mailing list?
[14:49] <m0RrE> adam12345678: it's randomly generated, if you don't have it, you can't access your files
[14:49] <mbeierl> bidossessi: no, wait - it won't add the /etc/fstab for him...
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: sudo blkid  for that
[14:49] <junior_> ju
[14:49] <Valentina> mbeierl: Yeah, I know, I have used gparted before, but I tried to be smart using the cli at my server. :S
[14:49] <Laibcoms> adam12345678: when you installed karmic, it asked you if you want to make your /home encrypted. Then on your first login, a window pops up telling you your passphrase for that encrypted folder
[14:49] <xpo0f> ph8, u said about myth list..
[14:49] <junior_> brasil
[14:49] <bidossessi> Valentina, since you have a backup of your home, i really thing you need to remove the new drive you popped in now and see whether you get your old system back
[14:49] <tree88> can somebody help me in installing matlab, if I have the script file but no reply on ./install
[14:49] <adam12345678> lol it said nothing of the sort
[14:49] <BluesKaj> mbeierl, the gparted live cd is the easiest and safest way to go ..a biut of DLing and burning but then you have an app that can even fix windows mbrs etc :)
[14:49] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip, bidossessi: is there an "all-in-one add a new disk and put the entry in automagically" tool?
[14:49] <m0RrE> Laibcoms: this is his old partittion
[14:49] <adam12345678> it didnt give me a passphrase
[14:49] <xpo0f> tree88, make sure u have execute that
[14:50] <adam12345678> it asked me to give one
[14:50] <m0RrE> and it doesn't print the passphrase
[14:50] <rocknroll00> bidossessi: that is? what should I look for exactly?
[14:50] <bidossessi> mbeierl, nope :(
[14:50] <Valentina> mbeierl: Will it be possible using gParted at my Desktop computer partioning the new hard drive at my server computer through ssh?
[14:50] <junior_> kgjhdfffffffffffffffffffjg
[14:50] <bidossessi> rocknroll00, overheating
[14:50] <xpo0f> Valentina, maybe cfdisk will useful
[14:50] <mbeierl> BluesKaj: for adding a new disk - I think it's safer to do it from the running live os, no?  That way live, mounted filesystems can't be touched
[14:50] <TheTom> I like byubo but it's a corny name! Impossible not only to pronounce, but also to remember how to type! Idiots!
[14:50] <xpo0f> !cfdisk
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> rocknroll00: reboot, in the grub menu, read the screen
[14:50] <m0RrE> adam12345678: try this ecryptfs-unwrap-passprahse /path/to/old/home/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> !info cfdisk
[14:50] <m0RrE> and enter your old login pass
[14:50] <mbeierl> Valentina: you can ssh -X to the server and then run gksu gparted
[14:51] <asdf1234> hello! i hope u can help me. im looking for days for a solution. in gnome->places, i need not only removable media shown but hard disk partitions also. its been a feature in ubuntu, but not in the standard gnome install under gentoo. i need to know how to achieve this.
[14:51] <xpo0f> ActionParsnip, forgot about info command
[14:51] <rocknroll00> Sorry I was disconnected. I see overheating, and check the grub menu screen
[14:51] <mbeierl> Valentina: on the remote computer, and then it will send its display back to you.
[14:51] <tree88> xpo0f: I did nano install, found the file is full of scripts regarding installation starting with #!/bin/sh
[14:51] <llutz> !info gnu-fdisk
[14:51] <mart> has anyone installed SVN on to ubuntu resently. when i do the setup and try to start apache2 i get the following error.Unknown DAV provider: /svn  Does anyone know how to fix this because i have spent a week at it.
[14:51] <tree88> xpo0f: the color shown in "ls" is green
[14:51] <titusg> I meant *karmic* has removed the 'default X session' option from gdm -- how do I put it back? :-)
[14:51] <xpo0f> tree88, sure becoz it is bash script
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> asdf1234: ask in #gentoo for gentoo support
[14:51] <Valentina> mbeierl: Well, the backup is done, I hop it worked.
[14:51] <Valentina> *hope
[14:51] <asdf1234> ActionParsnip: its gnome specifix, so its ubuntu.
[14:52] <llutz> ActionParsnip: cfdisk is provided by gnu-fdisk or util-linux, not a package on its own
[14:52] <xpo0f> !info bash | tree88
[14:52] <BluesKaj> mbeierl, gparted live cd is basically a small linux OS
[14:52] <dinya> hello all. i want upgrade my 9.04 to 9.10, but i need about 6gb free on /. how can i find big packages to remove?
[14:52] <mbeierl> Valentina: if the scp completed, then ya, it's good.  It's pretty black and white :)
[14:52] <bidossessi> Valentina, for the love of all that's holy, take the time to get the uuid for each of your hhd's and update your fstab. that's the ONLY future-proof way
[14:52] <adam12345678> it said ecryptfs-unwrap-passprahse: command not found
[14:52] <bumbblebee> which is better zlib or gzip??
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> asdf1234: incorrect, many many distros use gnome so your issue is with the config within the distro you are using
[14:52] <xpo0f> tree88, becoz it have auto-color in that script... for debugging purpose
[14:52] <LifeIsPain> coz_ (and whoever coz_ was talking to): http://xchat.org/faq/#q27 , create a xchat.png file in that directory
[14:52] <Valentina> mbeierl: The remote computer is a Ubuntu Server installation so it won't have any dekstop installed, only cli.
[14:52] <mahngiel> 7zip will not unpack for me
[14:52] <tree88> xpo0f: how do I install it
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> asdf1234: so its gentoo, or you can ask in #gnome
[14:52]  * bidossessi gives up
[14:52] <asdf1234> ActionParsnip: incorrect. ur mother.
[14:52] <san123> please can anyone help me i cant see icons in my panel even amarok icon and sound icon i tried to add it but it is showing already added
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> !ops | asdf1234 being inconsiderate and insulting
[14:53] <xpo0f> tree88, chmod a+x [ your script ] and ./script
[14:53] <mbeierl> BluesKaj: sorry, yes I am familiar with gparted live, but I'm thinking for this application, where a new drive is being added, I think it might be safer to stick with the running linux os...
[14:53] <coz_> LifeIsPain,   hey guy thanks  will  take a look at this
[14:53] <ikonia> what's up
[14:53] <Valentina> bidossessi: Yes, hehe, I know that for now. I didn't know about the changing of sdX before.
[14:53] <Laibcoms> m0RrE: ahh, only saw the 'reinstalled karmic'.  And, it doesn't show it? O_O   I got some random generated code after my first login on a fresh install of karmic.
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: please discuss with asdf1234 why gentoo support is not here, he's also being flatly insulting
[14:53] <xpo0f> Valentina, always with manual.. explore inside
[14:54] <Valentina> bidossessi: If I did know about it I hadn't started messing with the sdc from the beginning.
[14:54] <lianimator> Hi, is there a way to control a remote computer which is behind a router which the user may not configure? in other words, cannot forward any ports.
[14:54] <xpo0f> ikonia, gentoo is different..
[14:54] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: looks like bazhang has delt with it,
[14:54] <BluesKaj> mbeierl, perhaps you're right , I've never encountered that situation before.
[14:54] <Finnish> I seriously need an invoice-program, it's also for a beginning ubuntu-user so what are your tips?
[14:54] <san123> please help
[14:54] <ikonia> xpo0f: I know what gentoo is
[14:54] <titusg> anyone know a howto for adding wm options to gdm?
[14:54] <mbeierl> Valentina: the remote does not need desktop installed.  Is gparted installed, though?
[14:54] <xpo0f> ikonia, sure for that
[14:54] <mbeierl> Valentina: remote = server
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> lianimator: then you are stuck, the router will always reject the connection due to the nature of NAT
[14:54] <bidossessi> Valentina, do it now, identify the content of each of your drives using a live cd, get their uuid, then update your fstab with uuid syntax. not partitioning needed. i can assure you that you have done no damage up to now, but the way you're going, you will
[14:54] <stevecoh1> ActionParsnip - geez, it's like looking for a needle in a haystack, even filtering past all the pngs with sudo find / -iname "*.png" | grep eclipse and I still can't find what I'm looking for.  If only I knew what the darned thing was called.
[14:54] <adam12345678> it said that encryptfs-utils is not installed
[14:54] <Valentina> mbeierl: On my desktop computer yes, on server, I dunno.
[14:55] <BluesKaj> !wm | titusg
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> stevecoh1: could try *.xpm instead
[14:55] <stevecoh1> ok
[14:55] <mbeierl> Valentina: on your ssh session, simply type in gparted as see?
[14:55] <xpo0f> mbeierl, maybe u need cli disk editor like cfdisk or fdisk
[14:55] <tree88> xpo0f: no reply shows the prompt after ./install again though I chainged the permission as you said
[14:56] <legend2440> stevecoh1: if find doesnt help    if eclipse is in the Menu ( i dont have eclipse installed so i dont know if it is)  then open  System>preferences>main menu  and highlight the Eclipse launcher and press Properties and then click on the icon. that may open a box to show where that png file is
[14:56] <BluesKaj> !windows-media
[14:56] <Valentina> mbeierl: yes, remote is for me the server computer. The server doesnät have a GUI, only cli, but my desktop has got a GUI and gParted.
[14:56] <titusg> BluesKaj: I want to log in using xmonad -- at the moment I have to select xterm then start xmonad
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: thanks anyway duder
[14:56] <Valentina> mbeierl: Ok.
[14:56] <xpo0f> tree88, maybe u need to run as root to execute that
[14:56] <tree88> xpo0f: the readme file says to ./install
[14:56] <mahngiel> BluesKaj: what are you looking for under win media?
[14:56] <Valentina> mbeierl: gParted isnät installed on the server, then I will install ie.
[14:56] <tree88> xpo0f: you mean sudo ./install or su and then do all these ?
[14:56] <Valentina> *it
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> tree88: when its ran does it say file not found?
[14:56] <Yolarina1> How do I add the icons besides menu items (File -> New/Open/Save/Etc.) in 9.10?
[14:56] <xpo0f> tree88, if not have permission to execute.. how it will be ./install .. sure for root
[14:56] <mbeierl> Valentina: don't worry about it then.  we'll just use parted
[14:56] <BluesKaj> mahngiel, nothing , i was mistaken
[14:57] <Valentina> mbeierl: Ok.
[14:57] <ampex> how can I change the default run level on ubuntu 9.10 server? I installed gdm but I don't want it to start up in graphical mode
[14:57] <mbeierl> Valentina:  or fdisk or whatever you are most comfortable with.
[14:57] <xpo0f> mbeierl, sure for that.. parted also work fine
[14:57] <ikonia> ampex: update-rc.configd
[14:57] <Valentina> The problem is what my fdisk did to my /home partition sdc1 and how to get it right again.
[14:57] <guntbert> !runlevel ampex
[14:57] <ikonia> ampex: sorry - update-rc.d
[14:57] <lianimator> I'm on Karmic now and there is no /boot/grub/menu.lst so how does it know I also have a windows partition?
[14:57] <guntbert> !runlevel | ampex
[14:57] <bidossessi> Valentina, that is a fstab issue! not a partition issue
[14:58] <xpo0f> lianimator, u need to manual for that
[14:58] <tree88> ActionParsnip: It says nth, not even a blank line returns to the prompt again
[14:58] <Valentina> mbeierl: We try fdisk, I went well last time I used it, but on the wrong disc. ;)
[14:58] <tree88> ActionParsnip: the file is sure there
[14:58] <Yolarina1> How do I add the icons besides menu items (File -> New/Open/Save/Etc.) in 9.10?
[14:58] <lianimator> xpo0f: you mean, manually create?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> tree88: hmm, well thats something, least its being ran as you arent being told th file isnt there and you are using the ./ meaning the file is in the pwd
[14:58] <tree88> ActionParsnip: I can read the !/bin/sh script when I do "nano install"
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> Yolarina1:  i thinkl gnome devs or the ubuntui devs decided that icons are only for 'real' things. not actions.
[14:58] <mbeierl> bidossessi: uuid for fstab, sure, but you cannot use anything other than /dev/sdX for partitioning, no?  Is there a better way?
[14:58] <xpo0f> lianimator, i guess becoz im always did it manual
[14:58] <legend2440> Finnish: open synaptic  click on Search and enter  invoice  kraft and gnotime  look like they may be good
[14:58] <Valentina> bidossessi: Well, I don't know, will fdisk somehow damage my file system at /home that uses the sdc1 partition?
[14:58] <lianimator> xpo0f: where is the current config located?
[14:59] <Yolarina1> Dr_Willis: Yes, how do I add them again?
[14:59] <xpo0f> lianimator, /boot/grub/grub.conf
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> tree88: could try: sh ./install
[14:59] <Valentina> bidossessi: Or will fidsk only mess up the fstab?
[14:59] <ampex> guntbert: so how would I go about disabling gdm on boot? update-rc.d or is there another more user friendly tool?
[14:59] <mataks> help pls.. when i upgrade to 9.10 my audio is messen up
[14:59] <Finnish> legend2440, kraft was complaining about QT
[14:59] <xpo0f> lianimator, edit it properly or it wont boot
[14:59] <mataks> !mp3
[14:59] <Vero> iTunes 9.0.2.25 stopped
[14:59] <lianimator> xpo0f: thanks
[14:59] <tree88> ActionParsnip: same as before no reply at all
[14:59] <xpo0f> unless u now editing in grub.. gudluck
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> Yolarina1:  short answer.. you dont. Its proberly would need recompiling.,
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> !itunes | Vero
[14:59] <electro> Is it possible to upgrade between LTS versions
[14:59] <legend2440> Finnish: dependency problems?
[15:00] <Yolarina1> Dr_Willis: I want them back!
[15:00] <xpo0f> Yolarina1, what happen
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> Yolarina1:  there was an artical out a few weeks back about how gnome devcs are cleaning up all these extra icons all over the place
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> electro: sure, but the current LTS is hardy
[15:00] <Valentina> mbeierl: xt38 said something about comparing the /proc/partitons and something else to see if I messed the sdc up.
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> Yolarina1:  good luck then.
[15:00] <savid> Hi, I'm not able to get a microphone working through the 3.5mm microphone jack on my laptop.   My sound card is intel HD audio (82801H - ICH8 Family).  It only records sound from my laptop's built-in mic.  How can I fix this?
[15:00] <guntbert> ampex: update-rc, like ikonia already said, I only added the info about "runlevels" :-)
[15:00] <PupenoG> ikonia: any ideas?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> electro: lucid is the next LTS in april next year
[15:00] <perlsyntax> I got a Hp pavilion dv2125 and i want to put ubuntu on it will it work?
[15:00] <mbeierl> Valentina: ok, so I'm pretty sure that you need to refer to the device by its /dev/sdX name for partitioning and making the filesystem, and sorry - I don't know what to compare /proc/partitions to ... gimme a minute on that
[15:00] <electro> ActionParsnip: ok, so I can upgrade to that when it comes out correct?
[15:00] <perlsyntax> i hope someone can help me.
[15:01] <bidossessi> Valentina, obviously your partitioning attempt fail, since you still have your /home partition mounted. so i really suggest you move off the partitioning route and get to finding out the uuids of your drives so that you can edit fstab accordingly, WITHOUT touching your partitions
[15:01] <prageeth> how to run dotnet application in Ubuntu
[15:01] <iceroot> prageeth: mono
[15:01] <bidossessi> prageeth, like i said: mono
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> electro: sure, just like any other upgrade
[15:01] <electro> just sed the sources.list file and update like I normally do?  (mind you I speak from upgrading from release to release this is more for a prod environment)
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> prageeth:  check the wine app database about using dotnet stuff. or try running them witn mono (good luck with that)
[15:01] <u-foka__> perlsyntax, why you don't put the disc inside and see if the live system works fine or not?
[15:02] <bidossessi> !pm
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> electro: no you shouldnt upgrade that way
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | electro
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> electro: you will get issues if you use that method, it is not advised
[15:02] <bidossessi> i'm one of such people who find unanounced pms rude
[15:02] <mbeierl> bidossessi: I think he's got the uuid ok in his fstab for the other partitions.  this is for adding a new HD to the system.  without knowing the /dev/sdX of the drive, it can't be formatted, therefore no uuid yet, right?  chicken-and-egg problem?
[15:02] <Valentina> bidossessi: Hm, are oyu sure? The partitioning by fdisk seemed to work, I got errors trying to sudo mkfs, not before? I got the option to enter partition number, cylinders etc in fdisk. It seemde to go all through.
[15:02] <bidossessi> uuid | mbeierl
[15:02] <bidossessi> !uuid | mbeierl
[15:03] <electro> ActionParsnip: what kind of issues, I've been doing it since 5.04
[15:03] <Valentina> bidossessi: I got no errors writing the partition table using (w) option in fdisk.'
[15:03] <mordof> i've got this line  http://pastebin.com/m46de190d  in my fstab for my ntfs 500gb partition.. i'm wondering two things.  a) how to make it so i have write access (user mordof)  and b) how to remove the icon off my desktop?
[15:03] <Psinetic> i'm trying to get camfrog to work on ubuntu 9.10 with wine. it's installed and i got my username and pass, but it freezes and crashes anytime i do anything other than just open the program. any help please?
[15:03] <bidossessi> mbeierl, so you see, no partitioning needed
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> electro: there are packages and programs to ease and manage upgradeing, if your method was the case, the link ubottu gave would be pretty bare
[15:04] <mosta> ,,, guyz any 1 know swat !!?
[15:04] <mosta> for samba
[15:04] <adam12345678> how would i add the other partition to my grub list in grub 2 if i cant decrypt the home folder then
[15:04] <mbeierl> bidossessi: sorry to belabour the point, but does blkid work before the partition table is created on a new disk?
[15:04] <Valentina> Isn't it possible to just check what the fidsk has done or not? Using some logd or so?
[15:04] <Valentina> *logs
[15:04] <bidossessi> mbeierl, have you tried it?
[15:04] <mbeierl> bidossessi: I don't have a new disk :(
[15:04] <tree88> how can I view who are logged into my "ssh" and the history of commands they typed in the terminal ??
[15:04] <epinky> could someone tell me to whom was my last message?
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> mosta:  swat can work. but it will remove all the comments from your normal smb.conf file.
[15:05] <janhaj> hello.. is here anybody, who runs LXDE?
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> !swat
[15:05] <epinky> I've lost connection
[15:05] <mbeierl> Valentina: what do you get when you run sudo blkid on the server?  pastebin it, please?
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> I forget the proper url to even use swat .. http://localhost:631 or was it some other port.
[15:05] <Maxmim_2> hey ActionParnsip THANKS FOR YOUR HELP....but how can i remove a directory from the $PATH which i inclueded wrong?
[15:05] <adam12345678> !grub2
[15:05] <electro> ActionParsnip: this is for server, not desktop
[15:05] <electro> ActionParsnip: I dont plan on using X
[15:05] <Psinetic> i'm trying to get camfrog to work on ubuntu 9.10 with wine. it's installed and i got my username and pass, but it freezes and crashes anytime i do anything other than just open the program. any help please?
[15:05] <themod> hey guys i can't stop my freenx server with sudo /etc/init.d/freenx stop
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> electro: there is a network upgrade method for server too
[15:06] <electro> ok
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> electro: i suggest you read the link
[15:06] <themod> it says freenx  isn't found
[15:06] <mbeierl> (09:09:40 AM) epinky: mosta: is samba already installed?
[15:06] <electro> update-manager-core
[15:06] <themod> also do i have to reboot after password change?
[15:06] <Cam23> hi guys. i'm a total newbie to ubuntu. im trying to figure out how to install users-admin. sudo apt-get install users-admin returns "couldnt find package..."
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> themod:  try the 'service' command   it may be handled by upstart.
[15:06] <bidossessi> mbeierl, right now, valentina has all her drives installed, so running blkid will give all availble uuids. the next step is writing them down, removeing the new hdd to get back to the old configuration, checking for differences, then updating fstab with the harvested uuids. once that is done, inserting a new drive will be harmless
[15:07] <epinky> mbeierl: thank you so much
[15:07] <lianimator> I installed windows first and then karmic, so my grub was configured automatically. my friend did the opposite way, karmic first, then windows 7... how can he auto-configure grub??
[15:07] <Cam23> does the package users-admin exist? the book i have claims it does
[15:07] <bidossessi> !windows-ate-my-grub
[15:07] <legend2440> mordof: i'm not sure about write access problem since i dont have ay  ntfs partitions. but to get icon off desktop  mount it in  /mnt/disk  instead of  /media/disk
[15:07] <Valentina> Here is the result of running sudo blkid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/315131/
[15:07] <themod> ok thanks >Dr_Willis
[15:07] <mordof> legend2440: ok, ty :)
[15:07] <mbeierl> bidossessi: ok.  I joined in late so did not know that the fstab was manually changed to /dev/sdX format
[15:08] <Valentina> I have replaced the UUID by x so that you won't hack me. ;)
[15:08] <themod> also in server 9.10 my windows networks just great i'm on 64bit though
[15:08] <mbeierl> Valentina: hee hee.  Not possible, but good either way.
[15:08] <bidossessi> Valentina, uuid is a unique identifier, pretty useless to anyone else
[15:08] <bidossessi> not like a mac address or anything
[15:08] <themod> it even sees my nas from trendnet and lets me use it
[15:08]  * Dr_Willis sets his uuid to 000-0000-0000-1
[15:09] <lindenle> HI guys, I keep getting a warning that my user has executed (via sudo) gconftool, but I am not using those machines right now. Could this be the result of an aptitude update?
[15:09] <Psinetic> i'm trying to get camfrog to work on ubuntu 9.10 with wine. it's installed and i got my username and pass, but it freezes and crashes anytime i do anything other than just open the program. any help please?
[15:09] <bidossessi> gotta go do some work, i may or may not be back. good luck
[15:09] <mbeierl> bidossessi: I am confused now.  The new drive does not show the new drive in blkid?
[15:09] <Valentina> And this is the result of running sudo fdisk -l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/315133/
[15:09] <mbeierl> bidossessi: ok, thanks!
[15:09] <bazhang> Psinetic, what does the appdb say
[15:09] <Valentina> mbeierl: Ok.
[15:09] <Psinetic> the what?
[15:09] <perlsyntax> Where can i get ubuntu 9.10 for amd64?
[15:09] <Valentina> bidossessi: Ok, good to know.
[15:09] <mbeierl> Valentina: ok, so is there a anything at "ls -l /dev/sda*"
[15:10] <mataks> help pls.. when i upgrade to 9.10 my audio is messen up
[15:10] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org Psinetic
[15:10] <mataks> !audio
[15:10] <perlsyntax> i hope someone know becuase the web site show only 32bit
[15:10] <Valentina> What is sda2 Extended?
[15:10] <Valentina> *sdb2, I mean.
[15:10] <themod> Dr_Willis. >how can I get password change to work in 9.10 and do I have to reboot to make it take
[15:11] <kermit_the> is there any bug in firefox 3.54 in karmic?
[15:11] <themod> it seems to work plug in the new pw at the end and still uses my  old pw
[15:11] <d_rwin> Valentina, they usualy are device files for usb devices
[15:11] <Valentina> I have sdb1, sdb2 and sdb5, why do my file system have three partitions at sdb?
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> themod:  should be changed idmenatly..
[15:11] <Valentina> d_rwin: CDROM?
[15:11] <perlsyntax> Anyone?
[15:11] <prageeth> how to use mono
[15:11] <mbeierl> Valentina: that would be the "placeholder" for the logical partitions.  There are two types of partitions in DOS partition tables: primary and logical.  One primary partition can be designated to hold logical partitions, giving you a total of 7 partitions possible
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> !mono
[15:11] <themod> ok but freenx still uses my old pw
[15:11] <djsites> helo
[15:12] <d_rwin> Valentina, problem?
[15:12] <ninh_lucton> ok
[15:12] <ikonia> PupenoG: apologies, I missed your pastebin of the ip tables rules, I must have stepped away from my desk for a moment when you posted
[15:12] <djsites> magyar vanit
[15:12] <ninh_lucton> thank
[15:12] <Psinetic> bazhang, i'm having trouble finding anything in there about camfrog
[15:12] <kermit_the> hello, is there any bugs with firefox 3.54 in karmic?
[15:12] <djsites> ???
[15:12] <perlsyntax> hello does anyone know where i can get amd64 bit for ubuntu 9.10?
[15:12] <ikonia> PupenoG: can I have another look please
[15:12] <ninh_lucton> no
[15:12] <mbeierl> Valentina: DOS partition can only hold 4 of one type: 4 primary, or 3 primary, with 1 being the extended that holds 4 logical = 7
[15:12] <ikonia> perlsyntax: ubuntu.com
[15:12] <ninh_lucton> thank
[15:12] <ninh_lucton> bye
[15:12] <Psinetic> (sorry, i'm like struggling to keep my eyes open, it's midnight here) bazhang
[15:12] <themod> hmmm maybe i should remove freens -server then reinstall with cus keys
[15:12] <perlsyntax> it show 32bit only
[15:12] <Valentina> mbeierl: Well, It must have been created during the installation of Ubuntu Server where I choosed to have /home on it's own drive, and the file system on it's own too.'
[15:12] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download perlsyntax choose architecture 64bit
[15:13] <PupenoG> ikonia: Oh, no problem. Here it is: http://gist.github.com/230916
[15:13] <Valentina> d_rwin: Could the Extende be a CDROM drive too?
[15:13] <themod> look in alt cd section
[15:13] <mbeierl> Valentina: yes, it holds the swap space from what I see
[15:13] <themod> for 64bit
[15:13] <bazhang> perlsyntax, no it shows both
[15:13] <perlsyntax> that only 32bit
[15:13] <themod> and maybe ftp area
[15:13] <themod> near you
[15:13] <mataks> can someone help me.. i have problem with my audio when i upgrade to 9.10.... i can't hear any audio now.. why is that..
[15:13] <mbeierl> Valentina: no, the extended is not the cdrom...
[15:13] <Valentina> mbeierl: Yeah, and the file system, but I havenät choosed a Extended partition. How was that created?
[15:13] <frostburn> anyone have a workaround for unsubscribing to launchpad?  the unsubscribe function is timing out every time
[15:13] <perlsyntax> i only see 32bit
[15:13] <PupenoG> ikonia: by the way, I left tshark running from a while, analyzed the output and the only thing going from one machine to the other were pings.
[15:13] <tamir> :>
[15:14] <themod> did you open the sound icon and go and configure  your audio device?
[15:14] <bazhang> perlsyntax, its on the link I gave you. look more carefully
[15:14] <d_rwin> Valentina, no
[15:14] <Valentina> ok
[15:14] <perlsyntax> i did
[15:14] <d_rwin> Valentina, need mountin cdrom?
[15:14] <themod> i've had to do that before
[15:14] <kermit_the> mataks, can u describe ur hard ware?
[15:14] <mbeierl> Valentina: the way to read it is: /dev/sdb1 is bootable, and it's primary (<=4)
[15:14] <mahngiel> there have been many issues arrising from sound drivers lately
[15:14] <Psinetic> perlsyntax, if you can't see the option to choose your OS type and then your os 32 bit and 64 bit then you have got to be utterly blind
[15:14] <bastidrazor> perlsyntax:  http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[15:14] <mbeierl> Valentina: /dev/sdb2 is a "virtual" or "extended" partition and it is a container for further partitions
[15:15] <marlinc> hi
[15:15] <kermit_the> hi too
[15:15] <Valentina> mbeierl: I don't know, the sdb holds the file system, the swap and some other thing called Extended. But we have to solve the problem with the sdc because that was the drive I was messign around with.
[15:15] <marlinc> i got a problem
[15:15] <mbeierl> Valentina: /dev/sdb5 is the logical partition (>=5) located "inside" /dev/sdb2 and it is your swap space.  I think it was created by the installer automatically
[15:15] <mahngiel> marlinc: what's up
[15:15] <themod> ok thanks Dr_Willis> and every one I got to shut down my server and puit the screen I have in there on top
[15:15] <themod> is a b to  look at it where i put it lol
[15:15] <Psinetic> alright hey folks, i'm gonna go to bed. it's too late, i can't keep my eyes open, crap like that. night folks
[15:16] <Valentina> mbeierl: So Extended sdb2 holds swap and the main partition(file system)?
[15:16] <marlinc> i have windows and want to install unbunto to a external hdd
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[15:16] <marlinc> but it gives a arror
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[15:16] <Valentina> d_rwin: No, forget about the CDROM.
[15:16] <themod> boot the cd choose the usb drive
[15:16] <marlinc> k
[15:16] <mbeierl> Valentina: no, the main is on /dev/sdb1, sdb2 is a "container" partition that can hold up to 4 more partitions.  They would be named "/dev/sdb5, 6, 7, 8" but you only have 1 in it: /dev/sdb5
[15:16] <mahngiel> marlinc: themod is correct, change your boot order in bios
[15:16] <marlinc> but can i run from a virtual cd drive
[15:16] <themod> :)
[15:16] <marlinc> no i cant install it
[15:17] <Valentina> mbeierl: Yeah, but the sdb2 partition, what's that?
[15:17] <Skaag> I have a weird phenomenon where in Eclipse I can not press buttons with the mouse. Is this something that's related to the Compiz that comes with Ubuntu? (I turned on the effects)
[15:17] <Omarman> Help please? I use Wubi and the update to grub seems to have lost configuration and now I have to bott manually.. any easy way to fix theis?
[15:17] <themod> i've done this with old  6.06 once and a slow drive ewwwww
[15:17] <ikonia> PupenoG: that looks like you've got an "any/any" accept rule, as well as an any/any block rule
[15:17] <Valentina> mbeierl: Why is there a sdb2 Extended partition, I only chose file system partition and swap partition at sdb.
[15:17] <Omarman> Help please? I use Wubi and the update to grub seems to have lost configuration and now I have to boot manually.. any easy way to fix this?
[15:17] <mbeierl> Valentina: http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/structPartitions-c.html <- this give a bit of an overview of DOS partition tables
[15:17] <bidossessi> Valentina, http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/321/fstab-with-uuid/
[15:17] <sceo1> from the command line I can do "ssh pegasus" and it logs me in fine with key-based authentication; but when I have autofs going for the sshfs, it prompts me every time... what's the difference?
[15:18] <mbeierl> Valentina: even though we are running linux, the partitioning of the disks is still based on the DOS standard
[15:18] <mahngiel> marlinc: perhaps you can try to install inside wubi onto the ext. hd
[15:18] <Valentina> mbeierl: Ok, but for now I have to get the sdc working or at least check that's really working although I was messing around using fdisk on it.
[15:18] <PupenoG> ikonia: weird, but nmap shows the port not being accessible.
[15:18] <themod> an if you have a 730a or 750 chipset from nvidia  theres an issue with seeing sata drive
[15:18] <mahngiel> marlinc, it is the same process as using in a USB flash drive
[15:19] <themod>  or else i'd dual boot now
[15:19] <ikonia> PupenoG: nmap isn't a vaid test tool, that just means a daemon responded on that port
[15:19] <Valentina> bidossessi: I think I now about that. I have read some info about the UUID and the /dev/sdX, that I could use both addign a new hard drive to my fstab.
[15:19] <mbeierl> Valentina: so, I see the partition info for /dev/sdc on your prior pastebin.  I'd like to see the output of /proc/partitions now.  I think /dev/sdc is still ok
[15:19] <mataks> !audio
[15:19] <themod> only one that sees it is supergamer but i have other issues with that
[15:19] <PupenoG> ikonia: ok.
[15:19] <Valentina> mbeierl: Ok.
[15:19] <Valentina> eait
[15:19] <Valentina> *wait
[15:19] <ikonia> PupenoG: that doesn't mean I'm right, I'd check for anything known in the nagios channels too
[15:19] <bidossessi> Valentina, uuid is MUCH preferred to block devices
[15:20] <bidossessi> for obvious reasons
[15:20] <themod> bye all
[15:20] <mahngiel> bye
[15:21] <Omarman> Anybody else having trouble with Grub2 screwing up their Wubi configurations?
[15:21] <stevecoh1> ActionParsnip - it's not an XPM either.  What a pain.
[15:21] <xckpd7> #ubuntu: how to switch workspaces?
[15:22] <ikonia> xckpd7: use the workspace switcher in the bottom right hand corner
[15:22] <GuidMorrow> !@#
[15:22] <Valentina> mbeierl: Here we go, the proc/partitions: http://paste.ubuntu.com/315143/
[15:23] <d_rwin> xckpd7, which window manager?
[15:23] <Valentina> bidossessi: Ok, but the default in Ubuntu seem to be /dev/sdX
[15:23] <ikonia> GuidMorrow: ?
[15:24] <Valentina> mbeierl: sda6? What the...
[15:24] <xckpd7> d_rwin: alt + ctrl + right arrow/left arrow.... thanks though
[15:24] <GuidMorrow> ok, why does Ubuntu Studio dump me in "tty1" mode at startup
[15:24] <BluesKaj> GuidMorrow, this isn't IM , IRC uses different conventions
[15:24] <gpscura> Hi
[15:24] <WLU> is the ati driver able to work two cards at the same time now?
[15:24] <mbeierl> Valentina: others may correct me if I'm wrong, but here is what I see:  fdisk shows /dev/sdc1 as 40202631 blocks.  /proc/partitions shows /dev/sdc1 as 40202631 blocks.  Therefore I believe that your fdisk of /dev/sdc was harmless and all is well
[15:25] <legend2440> stevecoh1: does it look like this?  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Eclipse+Icon?content=87185
[15:25] <d_rwin> xckpd7, can try alt + f1, f*
[15:25] <Valentina> mbeierl: Ah, I'm stupid, the sda is the new hard drive?
[15:25] <gpscura> Is Ubuntu Netbook Remix just compatible with Intel Atom?
[15:25] <mbeierl> Valentina: I was also confused by seeing /dev/sda in that list.  does /dev/sdaX show up in "mount"
[15:25] <Valentina> mbeierl: The new hard drive isn't empty.
[15:25] <Omarman> gpscura no, it will work on other Intel and AMD chips as well
[15:25] <mbeierl> Valentina: but /dev/sda did not show up when you used sudo blkid?
[15:26] <gpscura> Omaran thanks :)
[15:26] <Valentina> mbeierl: Ok, well, what will happend if I did some damage using the fdisk at sdc?
[15:26] <GuidMorrow> !tty
[15:26] <Omarman> gpscura, you´re welcome
[15:26] <mbeierl> Valentina: did you want to keep the data on the new disk?
[15:26] <Valentina> mbeierl: Will the file system be dameged or only the mounting of it?
[15:26] <mbeierl> Valentina: only the mounting of it
[15:26] <Omarman> OK... if anybody else is having trouble with WUBI and GRUB2... I found the answer in the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1314064&highlight=wubi+trouble+grub&page=4
[15:27] <mbeierl> Valentina: and now that you have a backup... worst case: mkfs.ext it and then copy the data back :)
[15:27] <Valentina> mbeierl: No, I will remove all data on the new disc, it has got NTFS file system, I have found it on the street.
[15:27] <GuidMorrow> wait , how do TTY terminals work, does it communicate with something hooked up to COM ports
[15:27] <gpscura> Omarman and, what about Moblin? it works just with Atom?
[15:27] <mbeierl> Valentina: oh, that's a new one :)  found it on the street... hee hee
[15:27] <Valentina> mbeierl: Don't know what it is having, I will use it as a backup disc.
[15:27] <wh1t3> salve
[15:27] <Omarman> gpscura... I haven't tried moblin on non-Atom machines yes. But my guess is it should also work.
[15:28] <Valentina> mbeierl: ;)
[15:28] <Valentina> mbeierl: Well, I actually havenät stolen it, I actually found it in the garbage.
[15:28] <gpscura> Omarman: Ok
[15:28] <mbeierl> Valentina: ok, so what you want to do then is use fdisk or your favourite partitioning program to create a new partition table for the /dev/sda disk.  I suggest deleting all the old ones and making one single new partition for the whole disk
[15:29] <mbeierl> Valentina: not suggesting you were, but it was funny to hear "found it on the street" :)
[15:29] <petsounds> hi, what is the easiest way to share file between two ubuntu computer? thanks
[15:30] <fasta> petsounds, scp
[15:30] <fasta> petsounds, or some graphical toy which is build on top of that.
[15:30] <mbeierl> petsounds: scp can copy files.  it's not a file system that you can see from the other computer, though
[15:30] <Maxmim_2> i am remote logged with openssh, and i started mpd (music player daemon), which is running, why i cant see it listed with the command ps -a?
[15:31] <mbeierl> fasta, petsounds: unless you use the sshfs on top of that
[15:31] <Valentina> I want to completely remove everything on the new hard drive, then use it as a back up disc on my Ubuntu Server system. I think I have to do this: 1. Remove the old partition table. 2. Crate a new one holding a single partition. 3. Format the new partition using sudo mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sda1
[15:31] <erUSUL> Maxmim_2: ps ax
[15:31] <petsounds> how can i go to other computer folder with nautilus?
[15:31] <bibinou> can someone with an english ubuntu tell me what is the correct name for the "video and sound" item in the applications menu ?
[15:31] <fasta> mbeierl, with Konqueror 3.5 it worked without sshfs.
[15:31] <Valentina> mbeierl: The problem is that I don't know how to remove the old partition table? Will it be done using sudo fdisk and then (d) option?
[15:31] <petsounds> i need to copy my music folder
[15:31] <mbeierl> Valentina: yes.  You can then get the UUID for the new filesystem by using "sudo blkid" and adding that to /etc/fstab as UUID=X /backup ... etc
[15:32] <trism> bibinou: Sound & Video here
[15:32] <rapha> How do I configure a VPN with NetworkManager if all I have is a PKCS12 certificate file (*.p12)?
[15:32] <mbeierl> fasta: sorry - ubuntu here, not kubuntu, so I didn't know...
[15:32] <bibinou> trism: thanks !
[15:32] <Maxmim_2> ErUSUL ? what means -x ? that the process doesnt control a terminal?
[15:32] <savid> petsounds,  you can type in  ssh://<ip-address>/   in nautilus
[15:32] <Maxmim_2> it worked
[15:32] <capiscuas> join #mediawiki
[15:32] <fasta> mbeierl, ubuntu doesn't mean that you cannot install KDE applications.
[15:32] <erUSUL> Maxmim_2: processe in background such as daemons
[15:33] <mgv1> what should i do about empty windows in evolution? http://yfrog.com/2m39081162p
[15:33] <DaZ> it means you should install them <:
[15:33] <mbeierl> fasta: true, but what I meant was I never tried knoquerer...
[15:33] <bibinou> trism: one more thing ... there is a "video player" in there ?
[15:33] <bibinou> trism: it's totem
[15:33] <gpscura> What's the most secure way to download Ubuntu?
[15:33] <fasta> mbeierl, it used to be a great application, but now they have Dolphin which is a POS.
[15:33] <DaZ> gpscura: wget
[15:33] <Maxmim_2> erUSUL, i think it is not because is on the background, but because does not use a terminal for that
[15:33] <Valentina> mbeierl: Or using adding the /dev/sda?
[15:33] <rapha> I'm having the same issue as the guy in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=397055 - but he never got an answer. Can anybody help?
[15:33] <gpscura> DaZ: i'm using Windows
[15:33] <Valentina> mbeierl: Like my fstab today have sdc and sdb?
[15:33] <DaZ> gpscura: then use anything you want
[15:33] <Maxmim_2> ps -a, will alredy list background and foreground processes
[15:33] <DaZ> and download it
[15:34] <DaZ> gpscura: if you still don't trust the iso, check md5sum
[15:34] <Maxmim_2> -x means ( i think), without TTY , that means terminal window
[15:34] <petsounds> savid : and how can i know my own ip address?
[15:34] <mbeierl> Valentina: I think we've "learned" that using /dev/sdX is subject to change and should stick to UUID, unless you plan on never ever again adding another drive?
[15:34] <trism> bibinou: yes, totem, although it is called "Movie Player"
[15:34] <Maxmim_2> petsounds: The public internet ip address or your local ip address?
[15:34] <mbeierl> fasta: kewel, thanks.  I'll give it a try
[15:34] <bibinou> trism: "movie player", thank you !!
[15:35] <gpscura> Daz: I'm using Firefox to download it, but it stops downloading everytime
[15:35] <petsounds> Maxmim_2 : idk sir, but like savid said i need to put my ip address in nautilus so i can go into another computer
[15:35] <gpscura> DaZ: Is using torrent a good way?
[15:35] <DaZ> gpscura: then torrents maybe
[15:35] <gpscura> DaZ: thanks
[15:35] <mbeierl> petsounds: he meant to put in the ip address or name of the other computer, I think
[15:35] <stevecoh1> legend2440 - no, that's not it.  That I find on my system.  Can you paste an image into pastebin?  If not, where then?
[15:36] <DaZ> gpscura: ubuntu website has a torrentfile
[15:36] <savid> petsounds,  not your ip address,  the other computer's IP address :-P
[15:36] <Valentina> mbeierl: Yeah, and when I look into fstab now, I can see that is is using the UUID and the it also says that my file system was istalled at sd1 and my home at sdb so Ubuntu changed the sdX when I connected the new hard drive! That was a dirty trick!
[15:36] <Valentina> mbeierl: On sda and sdb
[15:36] <gpscura> DaZ: thank you, i'll try to find it
[15:36] <petsounds> mbeierl : oh ok that would be easier :)
[15:36] <mbeierl> Valentina: it's not a trick, it's the motherboard that enumerates them differently when a new drive is put it.  So blame it on the PC, not ubuntu :(
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> Valentina:  i accidently reforamted a drive when they did the ide chnages from hd## to sd## :)
[15:36] <legend2440> stevecoh1: sorry  i dont have eclipse installed
[15:37] <Valentina> mbeierl: /dev/sdc0 is cdrom and then I have a /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
[15:37] <mbeierl> petsounds: hee hee ;)
[15:37] <gpscura> DaZ: i found it
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> Valentina:  you can mount them by Label if you wanted to instead of UUID
[15:37] <Valentina> mbeierl: But the computer doesn't have a foppy drive?
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[15:37] <mbeierl> Valentina: yes.  Those can't use uuid as the media in them are removable
[15:37] <DaZ> gpscura: you can install wget on windows by the way
[15:37] <DaZ> it's very handy <;
[15:37] <petsounds> ok i'm trying it now.
[15:38] <user1> Is installing wine and playing call for duty a crime?
[15:38] <Valentina> Dr_Willis: Well, I was about to format my /home partition, but that hadnät done to much damage, I only had some files on it.
[15:38] <mbeierl> Valentina: oh, I see.  Your can probably remove the /dev/fd0 entry then.  Although some bios/motherboards can report removable memory sticks as floppy drives...
[15:38] <gpscura> DaZ: I did not know it, thank you
[15:38] <imagitron2> I My Dell mini 10 (GMA 500) will not wake from sleep running Jaunty (black screen) I did the SUSPENDED_MODULES trick, but no luck. Does anyone have any ideas?
[15:38] <mbeierl> user1: only if you suck at call of duty
[15:39] <gpscura> DaZ: i'm now downloading BitTorrent in order to download Ubuntu (i never used torrents before this)
[15:39] <LiquiD_FLo0R> !root
[15:39] <Valentina> mbeierl: How can it be that I have a /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 when I havenät got a floppy dirve?
[15:39] <legend2440> !paste | stevecoh1
[15:39] <Valentina> *drive
[15:39] <user1> mbeierl : suck? meaning slow?
[15:39] <DaZ> gpscura: sure you didn't
[15:39] <DaZ> <:
[15:39] <DaZ> gpscura: get utorrent
[15:40] <mbeierl> user1: suck = being really bad at the game?  It was a lame attempt at humour.  No, if you own a legal copy of software, it is not a crime to use it under wine
[15:40] <Valentina> mbeierl: Actually I was installing the Ubuntu Server from a usb flash drive, could that have been creating the /dev/sdc0 /media/floppy0 partition?
[15:40] <DaZ> it's smaller and needs less resources imo
[15:40] <Valentina> mbeierl: Sorry, I mean the /dev/fd0 partition.
[15:40] <mbeierl> Valentina: yes, that could be.  I'd leave it, it's harmless enough
[15:41] <robin0800> Valentina: the easiest thing to do is comment it out of fstab blacklist it in modprobe.d and run update-initramfs -u and update-grub
[15:41] <gpscura> DaZ: ok
[15:41] <Valentina> mbeierl: Ok, just wondering what it was on my system, well, then we forget about that.
[15:41] <petsounds> mbeierl : i cant connect to another computer, im using Lan cable..
[15:41] <mbeierl> Valentina: some usb/memory card readers present themselves as floppies, others as cdroms...
[15:41] <mbeierl> Valentina: and others as hard drives...
[15:41] <user1> mbeierl : ok. but what's the min requirement for smooth gaming on karmic. 2gb!!
[15:41] <Valentina> robin0800: Weel, it won't hurt leaving it, I suppose.
[15:41] <mbeierl> user1: sorry.  I'm not a gamer, so I do not know.  Anyone else?
[15:41] <mahngiel> anybody gotten their free yahoo! mail through any of the mail clients offered to Unix
[15:42] <Valentina> mbeierl: Ok, maybe it was created using a flash drive installing Ubuntu Server.
[15:42] <mataks> !audio
[15:42] <gpscura> i miss Ubuntu, i almost hate Windows XP now
[15:42] <robin0800> Valentina: no its a bug its created by default
[15:42] <petsounds> savid : i cant connect to another computer, im using Lan cable..
[15:43] <Valentina> mbeierl: Ok, how do remove tha partiton table at sda? sudo fdisk /dev/sda and then (d) and (w)?
[15:43] <mbeierl> Valentina: yes.  Now that we are sure that sda is the new disk, that is what you can safely do.
[15:43] <linuxzo> oin #ubuntu-t
[15:43] <Valentina> robin0800: Ok, well I don't know. So I should remove it or can I let it be therE?
[15:43] <savid> petsounds,  Are you using a crossover cable?
[15:44] <robin0800> Valentina: yes
[15:44] <Valentina> mbeierl: Yes, I hope it is.
[15:44] <savid> petsounds,  you'll need to either connect via a network switch,  or use a crossover cable.
[15:44] <mbeierl> Valentina: seriously, I am sure it is the right one.
[15:44] <mart> has anyone installed SVN on ubuntu?
[15:44] <Valentina> robin0800: Yes what? Remove or let it live there?
[15:44] <Valentina> mbeierl: Ok, then let try it out, brb.
[15:44] <petsounds> savid : what do you mean with crossover cable? :) im using lan cable or ethernet
[15:45] <Valentina> mbeierl: Hm unable to read /dev/sda
[15:45] <robin0800> Valentina: leave it there if you want to if not remove as I stated above
[15:45] <savid> petsounds,  you can't connect one computer directly to another with a normal ethernet cable.  You must either go through a hub or switch,   or use a crossover cable.
[15:45] <hellop> I lost my Equation dialog box in openoffice.  I clicked Insert->Object->Equation and I was able to see a nice dialog with all the symbols.  Now when I do the same thing, there is no dialog box.
[15:46] <mbeierl> Valentina: Ah.  The disk might have been in the trash for a reason.  It might be broken
[15:46] <Tcl> hi ..i have a file  called .name.conf ..and i open the folder and cant see it..any1 knows how i can open it ( is a txt file)? thx
[15:46] <teicah> how do I make "hidden" mode the default in empathy?
[15:46] <savid> petsounds, you can buy a crossover cable or make one yourself.  just google around
[15:46] <hellop> I searched google and saw other people had the problem with no obvious solution.
[15:46] <gpscura> Is Debian better than Ubuntu?
[15:46] <Pici> !best | gpscura
[15:46] <Valentina> Why is only sdb1 and sdc1 showing up using sudo blkid? Why doesn't the swap partiton on sdb show up?
[15:46] <hellop> maybe I should ask in #math.
[15:47] <user1> what's the min requirement for smooth gaming on karmic. 2gb or 4gb
[15:47] <mbeierl> Valentina: I do not know?
[15:47] <user1> how do i check how much ram my mb can accomodate
[15:47] <Valentina> mbeierl: Well, but I used a command before that gave me three hard drives in list.
[15:47] <mbeierl> Valentina: for me swap does show up: /dev/sda3: UUID="919b0f34-8dda-4086-bb87-3f689ffa6d49" TYPE="swap"
[15:47] <IsUp> user1: check your mb product's manual
[15:48] <Valentina> mbeierl: sudo lshw -C disk
[15:48] <Valentina> mbeierl: That shoed me three hd's.
[15:48] <user1> IsUp: I want some command line command
[15:48] <Valentina> *showed
[15:48] <mbeierl> Valentina: so, when you use sudo fdisk /dev/sda it gives an error message?
[15:48] <petsounds> savid : so its different from windows? cause i can use normal ethernet cable to transfer data.. but now my music files are all in ubuntu :(
[15:48] <IsUp> user1: theres no command line for that you asking
[15:48] <teicah> how do I make "hidden" mode the default in empathy?
[15:48] <Valentina> mbeierl: It says unable to read.
[15:49] <user1> IsUp: Is linux so powerless? I cant believe it
[15:49] <Valentina> mbeierl: I tried sudo fdisk /dev/sda and aslso sudo fdisk /dev/sda1
[15:49] <Valentina> mbeierl: I think the old person used NTFS on the drieve.
[15:49] <mbeierl> Valentina: tail -10 /var/log/messages - does it say anything about read errors?
[15:49] <IsUp> user1: i dont know user1, find your mb model and check from the vendor
[15:49] <savid> petsounds,  you can't use a normal ethernet cable regardless of operating system.  It's networking layer, not the operating system layer.
[15:50] <savid> petsounds,  look on the cable to see if it has "crossover" printed on it.  Crossover cables and normal ethernet cables look exactly alike, the only difference is two wires are switched.
[15:50] <mbeierl> user1: motherboards do not report the amount of memory they can take through the BIOS.  An OS (ie: linux) cannot tell you what the motherboard hides.
[15:50] <error404notfound> after editing /etc/modules how can i reload the modules? or how can add modules to running kernel?
[15:50] <fagner> Boa tarde!
[15:50] <Valentina> mbeierl: Look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/315169/
[15:50] <Valentina> mbeierl: The result of sudo lshw -C disk
[15:51] <user1> mbeierl :  not even grub?
[15:51] <savid> petsounds,  do you not have a home router?
[15:51] <Valentina> mbeierl: The fist one hhad disk0 at the beginning.
[15:51] <cgroza> hello, i instaled xfce and removed gnome , but now hen i boot the panels dont show up in xfce!help
[15:51] <mbeierl> Valentina: yes, the drive is there, but there may be bad/damaged sectors in it.
[15:51] <cgroza> and no title bar
[15:52] <mbeierl> user1: as I said, the motherboard itself does not tell anyone how much memory it can take.  there is no ability to ask it, so, no, not even grub, sorry :(
[15:52] <Valentina> mbeierl: Ok, first time I run lshw -C disk I think it said I got two Hitatchio and that the first one was a Hitachi too. Now it only says SCSI
[15:52] <Tcl> hi ..i have a file  called .name.conf ..and i open the folder and cant see it..any1 knows how i can open it ( is a txt file)? thx
[15:53] <mbeierl> Valentina: does /var/log/messages say anything about "read errors" or "seek errors"?
[15:53] <Valentina> mbeierl: So you think it's damaged?
[15:53] <eddym> did any1 get magic jack working on ubuntu
[15:53] <Valentina> mbeierl: I'll check.
[15:53] <Pici> Tcl: Files that begin with a dot (.) are hidden, either use ctrl-h in nautilus to show them or ls -a on a terminal
[15:54] <jayjay> hello all, I need to buy the complete ubuntu Jackalope (all of the thousands of packages), for a personal mirror. Where could I buy it? I live in Catamarca, Argentina, and seems to be no dealer here to talk with about this topic.
[15:55] <petsounds> savid : i use this cable for transferring data in windows, so is this crossover? i really need to copy music from my netbook to the desktop, its about 240gb. huge files :(
[15:55] <Valentina> mbeierl: I tried cat /var/log/messages | grep " read errors" and grep "seek errors" but it didn't give me anything.
[15:55] <mbeierl> jayjay: Ubuntu is not something that costs money to buy...
[15:55] <Valentina> *"read errors"
[15:55] <Sergeant_Pony> anyone running ubuntu 9.10 under vmware? I have a few questions...?
[15:56] <cgroza> hello, i want to install the xfce panels ...how do i do it....i am curently stuck with no panels in xfce
[15:56] <mbeierl> Valentina: sorry, just try grep -i error /var/log/messages.  It might not be exactly read or seek
[15:57] <mbeierl> jayjay: if someone is asking you to pay money for it, other than the cost of creating and sending you a CD, they are wrong
[15:57] <dwarder> petsounds: some nic's don't care if it crosover of not, just try, if it is not the case then, get hub/swith or make crosover
[15:57] <BluesKaj> jayjay, you can DL the DVD version and set it up as a mirror on your server, and you might need more packages after wards as well
[15:57] <savid> petsounds,  if it works in windows then yes, it should work on ubuntu.
[15:57] <Valentina> mbeierl: It gives me many rows like this: Nov 10 14:27:58 c-3e79e755 kernel: [  566.002450] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Unhandled error code
[15:57] <jayjay> mbeierl: I know that, but my internet connection is faulty, so I decided to grab a copy (if possible) of all of the distribution. I thought that the DVD costs are obviously considerable, but the software has no cost.
[15:58] <mbeierl> Valentina: ok, that confirms it.  Yes there is something wrong somewhere on the drive.
[15:58] <Valentina> mbeierl: A lot of lines that has that info.
[15:58] <astechgeek> is there a frimware flash utility in the repos that will flash the firmware of a mp3 player
[15:58] <mbeierl> Valentina: I am sorry to say, but the drive is not going to work as a back up for you.  It is going back to its home on the street :(
[15:58] <Valentina> mbeierl: You can't trust people anymore. Throwing damaged hard drives in the carbage. Damaged hard drives shall be burnt!
[15:58] <Guest90364> hello
[15:59] <mbeierl> Valentina: now that's the best laugh I've had all day!
[15:59] <jayjay> I have no problems to pay online, but in the official Ubuntu site I have not found the link for getting a full DVD copy
[15:59] <hakan> hello
[15:59] <Valentina> mbeierl: Yeah, hehe, but I have found several hds on the street so I will replace it with another one.
[15:59] <hakan> tkintup-ng hack wpa
[15:59] <mbeierl> jayjay: oh, I see.  You are having trouble with getting the software over internet connection, so you want to see if you can get the complete mirror on a set of DVDs?
[16:00] <hakan> www
[16:00] <user1> My motherboard manual says it has 4 DDR2 DIMM slots and hence can take upto 8GB . does karmic support this?
[16:00] <mbeierl> Valentina: good luck to you!  Same procedure, insert new disk, check to see if it's /dev/sda or /dev/sdc or ... and then fdisk (d) (n), etc...
[16:00] <Valentina> mbeierl: I'll will turn my server off, replace my damaged hard drive by a new one of street model.
[16:01] <mbeierl> Valentina: but make sure first that you have UUIDs in your fstab !! :)
[16:01] <petsounds> savid : network manager can identify auto eth0 but if i choose that, it doesnt want to connect. it always comeback to auto eth1. which is usb cable for connecting modem. (sorry for my bad english)
[16:01] <Graviton> user1: The 64-bit version does
[16:01] <Valentina> mbeierl: Yes. At leats I have learn't something new today too. Now I have to check that I'm using the right hard drive before messing with fdisk etc.
[16:01] <Valentina> *least
[16:01] <Graviton> Of course your motherboard and processor should support that amount of RAM as well
[16:01] <savid> petsounds,  as I asked earlier, do you not have a home router?
[16:02] <astechgeek> if you wanted to have a drive as storage would it need to have a partition in ubuntu?
[16:02] <mbeierl> Valentina: yep.  Good luck with your HD salvage operation!
[16:02] <user1> Graviton: what is the problem with 32 one. If I go for 64 then I will have to let some installed ones go with wind.
[16:02] <jayjay> mbeierl: That's right.
[16:02] <petsounds> savid : home router?
[16:02] <saerg> hi
[16:02] <savid> petsounds,   you don't know what a router is?  do you connect to the internet?  :-P
[16:02] <Valentina> mbeierl: Thank you, and thanks for all help this evning (Swedish time). I'm very thankful!
[16:03] <mbeierl> jayjay: I do not know what the procedure for that would be.  I do know that there is the a proxy/cache ability for packages, so you can have one computer act as a local mirror for the other ones in your network
[16:03] <saerg> can i burn a cd from a live system which is a loaded from a dvd in the same drive?
[16:04] <petsounds> savid : you mean modem?
[16:04] <mbeierl> Valentina: you are welcome for the help this morning (Canada, Eastern standard time)
[16:04] <stevecoh1> legend2440 - posted the eclipse icon on my website: http://www.javactivity.org/eclipse_icon.png
[16:04] <Besogon> saerg, no
[16:04] <jason__> just use squid
[16:04] <Graviton> user1: A 32-bit operating system will only support 4 GB of RAM
[16:04] <savid> petsounds, If you don't have a router / switch / etc.. ,  there's nothing on your network that  can assign IP addresses.  You'll need to configure IP addresses manually for each computer.
[16:05] <saerg> Besogon: damn. thanks
[16:05] <jayjay> mbeierl: oh, I see. Well, I will try to ask via email to an administrator or the like, maybe they could tell me about costs, and the rest of the details.
[16:05] <mbeierl> jayjay:  and so the one can attempt to keep itself up to date with the mirrors out in the world, while its connection is good, and the other computers rely on it.  But for all the packages at once?  I do not know how best to get the first copy.
[16:05] <jayjay> thank you very much
[16:05] <legend2440> stevecoh1: thats the one you been searching for?
[16:05] <stevecoh1> yes
[16:05] <legend2440> stevecoh1: so you found it?
[16:05] <stevecoh1> but it's just a screen scrape from my computer
[16:05] <hakan> bactrack wpa help
[16:05] <hakan> bactrack wpa help
[16:06] <hakan> bactrack wpa help
[16:06] <bazhang> hakan, #remote-exploit for bt
[16:06] <jayjay> mbeierl: yes, the trouble is that the internet connection here is commanded by a company which is a monopoly
[16:06] <mahngiel> !flood | hakan
[16:06] <stevecoh1> I want to know what its name is.
[16:06] <stevecoh1> I'm guessing it must come from a jar file.
[16:06] <mbeierl> jayjay: you are welcome.  Try contacting the ubuntu team directly from ubuntu.com asking about shipit, but explain that you are interested in the full library... maybe they can help get you in touch with someone closer to you that can create it and ship it to you at a lower cost?
[16:06] <hakan> tkintup-ng help
[16:07] <bazhang> hakan, wrong channel
[16:07] <jayjay> mbeierl: and I don't have much expectations to get the complete mirror in a couple of days... and I need the package to build computers fast
[16:07] <bazhang> hakan, #remote-exploit
[16:07] <user1> Graviton: ok. let's say i take 64 bit karmic and then 8GB Ram . what should be my processor speed then?
[16:07] <jayjay> mbeierl: yes, that is what I am going to do
[16:07] <jayjay> maybe someone at Buenos Aires
[16:07] <legend2440> stevecoh1: do you have    opt/eclipse/icon.xpm?
[16:07] <rumbera> hi somebody can recomend me an ocr program?
[16:08] <janhaj> hello.. which package in ubuntu provide using function keys on laptop in gnome?
[16:08] <stevecoh1> no, not using Ubuntu version, using sun version.
[16:08] <hakan> tkintup-ng help
[16:08] <jayjay> rumbera: gocr is regular, not very accurate
[16:08] <petsounds> savid : i give up :( guess im gonna borrow external hd from my friend tomorrow. thanks for your help.
[16:08] <mahngiel> hakan: #remote-exploit channel
[16:08] <jayjay> someone say tesseract
[16:08] <hakan> ok
[16:08] <mbeierl> jayjay: hopefully ! :)  all the best.  Now, there is the live cd which contains an installer that will create the base system for you.  Unless you need specific extra packages, you might not need the full library.
[16:08] <mahngiel> tesseract?
[16:09] <bumbblebee> it is not possible to write with the current set of plugins - Brasero
[16:09] <mahngiel> are .zip files unpackable in 9.10? i've tried using 7zip btw
[16:09] <user1> Graviton: currently i have athlon x2 dual core 3800+ and a geforce 6100 gpu
[16:09] <ChogyDan> hey all, I'm looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot    can I just use schroot and ignore debootstrap?
[16:09] <rexha> i have recording sound problems in Ubuntu ? pls help
[16:09] <bumbblebee> anyone help
[16:09] <jayjay> mbeierl: Right. Hope this could be done. Anyway, I feel that a contribution from my part would be good. Thank you mbeierl.
[16:09] <MenZa> UnknownUser57: You can use the command-line 'unzip' program, at least. File-roller should do it, too.
[16:10] <mbeierl> jayjay: you are welcome.  all the best!
[16:10] <mahngiel> MenZa: i think that was aimed at me, thanks
[16:10] <smt> join #subversion
[16:10] <hakan> pyrit ati hd4830 erorr
[16:10] <hakan> help
[16:10] <MenZa> mahngiel: It was, sorry.
[16:10] <bazhang> hakan, with what
[16:10] <jayjay> mahngiel: yes, the package is called tesseract-ocr
[16:10] <ElArD> hi
[16:10] <ElArD> como vamos?
[16:10] <CrAzE124> hi there. does anyone have any experience with the broadcom BCM9431MCG chip? I've got an e-Machines laptop and want to run the aircrack-ng suite but can't get it working properly.
[16:10] <jayjay> look at Synaptic or apt
[16:11] <hakan> pyrit ati hd4830 help
[16:11] <innomen> !innomen > innomen
[16:11] <jayjay> keep in mind this: I have not tried it, only listened that was derived from an HP software
[16:11] <innomen> !innomen
[16:11] <hakan> turkey
[16:11] <mac_v> !botabuse | innomen
[16:12] <pingya> has anyone had success getting facebook chat to work through empathy?
[16:13] <mbeierl> pingya: no.  I went back to pidgin just for fb chat...
[16:13] <jcapinc> Hey is it possible to get Ubuntu One to work on Intrepid?  google doesnt destinguish between ubuntu and ubuntu one
[16:13] <pingya> mbeierl: huh, ok thanks
[16:13] <mbeierl> pingya: sorry - not to say that can't be done, just that it didn't work for me at all
[16:13] <Valentina> mbeierl: Could it be that I was having the hard drive (sda) on the same cable as cdrom and both was using using master?
[16:13] <grawity> jcapinc: Try "ubuntu one", with quotes
[16:14] <mahngiel> Menza: bash is telling me the end of central directory signatures are not found ?
[16:14] <MenZa> mahngiel: Er?
[16:14] <jcapinc> grawity: I did :( no dice
[16:14] <mbeierl> Valentina: probably not.  That would have prevented the motherboard/bios from registering the drives at all
[16:14] <mahngiel> !flood
[16:14] <nyk2005> I just installed phpsysinfo on a fresh ubuntu server install, but it download the php code instead of executing it! I experiences the same in debian, what's the fix for this again?
[16:14] <Valentina> mbeierl: Ok.
[16:14] <grawity> mahngiel: it's not bash, but the unzip program :| Maybe the archive is corrupted? Did you try "unzip"?
[16:15] <MenZa> !lamp > nyk2005
[16:15] <Valentina> mbeierl: But both was using the master and both devices was detected by Ubuntu?
[16:15] <mahngiel> MenZa: 1
[16:15] <mahngiel> 2
[16:15] <mahngiel> 3
[16:15] <mahngiel> 4
[16:15] <mahngiel> 5
[16:15] <FloodBot1> mahngiel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:15] <mahngiel> 6
[16:15] <grawity> jcapinc: That's strange, searching for http://www.google.com/search?q=%22ubuntu+one%22+intrepid gave me https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+question/73276 as the very first result.
[16:15] <jayjay> mahngiel: just for curiosity: tesseract-ocr could be integrated with xsane... so you can have all the tools in one place. Could you please tell me if it work OK, to know a good OCR alternative? Thanks in advance
[16:16] <dual> Is there anything that's better and more stable than Screenlets?
[16:16] <hakan> help
[16:16] <mahngiel> jayjay: i'm not interested in tesseract. i was being coy when you asked "can someone say tesseract"
[16:16] <hakan> help
[16:16] <hakan> help
[16:16] <FloodBot1> hakan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:16] <ANTRat> !help | hakan
[16:17] <mbeierl> Valentina: I do not know enough about the way these cables and such work anymore, but I think if the drive showed up, then somehow your motherboard resolved the conflict.  It is a possibility, but I would not hold out a lot of hope :(
[16:17] <perlsyntax> I  put the ubuntu cd in thelaptop and it just stay at the ubuntu sceen why that?I hope someone can help
[16:17] <mahngiel> MenZa: any idea how to fix my .zip problem?
[16:17] <freaky[t]> is there anything like kate (kde) for ubuntu (gnome)?
[16:18] <samuli> freaky gedit?
[16:18] <MenZa> mahngiel: unzip <filename> would be a good start.
[16:18] <perlsyntax> anyone
[16:18] <perlsyntax> ?
[16:18] <mahngiel> i did. and i tried posting the results, i think i got muted
[16:18] <perlsyntax> helo
[16:18] <freaky[t]> samuli, does gedit highlight source code like kateÄ?
[16:18] <perlsyntax> hello
[16:18] <donald> hello
[16:18] <Valentina> mbeierl: Ok, just wondering becuse I saw both was uing master back on the device.
[16:18] <samuli> freaky[t], it does have colors etc. for code
[16:18] <perlsyntax> why stay at the ubuntu sceen for this never happon
[16:19] <MenZa> mahngiel: pastebin.
[16:19] <mahngiel> !pastebin
[16:19] <freaky[t]> samuli, is there anything better than gedit?
[16:19] <samuli> freaky[t], probably.. I've never needed anything else.
[16:19] <perlsyntax> does anyone know?
[16:20] <samuli> freaky[t], it comes with default gnome installation so you should have it installed already
[16:20] <Valentina> Hm, I don't get the temperature of my system when loggin into the server by ssh. At another computer I can see the system temperature above the prompt when I log into my Ubuntu Server from ssh.
[16:20] <mbeierl> freaky[t]: just launched kate - first time.  No, I'd say gedit is not quite a replacement for kate
[16:20] <mahngiel> !pastebinit | http://paste.ubuntu.com/315194/
[16:20] <mahngiel> !pastebinit http://paste.ubuntu.com/315194/
[16:20] <ChogyDan> can anyone who is running an install of karmic upgraded from jaunty tell me your tzdata version?
[16:20] <mahngiel> !pastebinit
[16:21] <mahngiel> a bit of help with this pastebin pls
[16:21] <ChogyDan> mahngiel: you did it
[16:21] <Valentina> mbeierl: Haha, now I can see my hard drive. It's a hard drive from 1999 having 6GB of memory. Will that do well as a backup disc?
[16:21] <MenZa> mahngiel: Try typing "unzip Final", then hit tab.
[16:22] <mahngiel> got a list of 2
[16:22] <MenZa> o_O
[16:22] <mbeierl> Valentina: this is a new one?  it'll do only if you're not backing up more than 6gb !
[16:22] <mbeierl> Valentina: new = old, but newly installed into computer
[16:22] <ChogyDan> can anyone who is running an install of karmic upgraded from jaunty tell me your tzdata version?  apt-cache policy tzdata
[16:22] <Valentina> mbeierl: Yeah, I think I would need some more.
[16:23] <mbeierl> Valentina: 6gb is not that much anymore :(
[16:23] <mahngiel> !pastebinit | http://paste.ubuntu.com/315196/
[16:23] <Valentina> mbeierl: No, I know. It was 10 years ago, probably.
[16:23] <_Kate> if gedit replaced me, I'd be sad
[16:24] <nyk2005> MenZa: still not working after removing the whole lamp stack and installing "phpsysinfo".
[16:24] <mbeierl> _Kate: hee hee :)
[16:25] <ChogyDan> mbeierl: what are you trying to do?
[16:25] <ChogyDan> oops, mahngiel ^
[16:25] <mbeierl> ChogyDan: I was just looking back to see what I asked?  hee hee:)
[16:25] <mahngiel> ChogyDan: i'm trying to unzip a pkg
[16:25] <samuli> has anyone installed windows 7 after ubuntu? Will the w7 bootloader recognize and make entry for it?
[16:26] <grawity> mahngiel: Is it a .zip?
[16:26] <ChogyDan> mahngiel: it looks like the zip file is no good.  Maybe try gnome-open on the file
[16:26] <mahngiel> grawity: yessum
[16:26] <grawity> mahngiel: Does the 'file' command confirm it?
[16:26] <mahngiel> ChogyDan: you mind going into greater detail on that
[16:26] <mahngiel> grawity: how would i execute that?
[16:26] <nyk2005> MenZa: also "a2enmod php5" is alread enabled
[16:26] <ChogyDan> mahngiel: replace "unzip" with "gnome-open"
[16:27] <grawity> mahngiel: "file", a space, then the file's name.
[16:27] <ChogyDan> mahngiel: assuming you are running gnome...
[16:27] <mbeierl> samuli: I do not know, but from some of the questions asked here, it sounds like no.
[16:27] <mahngiel> ChogyDan: "cannot open file as archive"
[16:27] <om26er> file is corrupt then
[16:27] <mahngiel> grawity: lol it's empty
[16:27] <lmihaila> who handles (who is admin) the ubuntu-forums http://ubuntuforums.org/ ?
[16:28] <mahngiel> grawity: well, i suppose that sums up my issue lmao
[16:28] <MenZa> lmihaila: Have a look at their about page. It's owned by Canonical.
[16:28] <Valentina> mbeierl: Woho, the last one I hav efound has got 40GB of memory.
[16:28] <DarsVaeda> hi anyone with a nvidia card and nvidia ccelerated drivers? i'm using 9.10 and can not enlarge a window over two screens
[16:28] <Valentina> *have
[16:28] <gregflint> quick n00b question for you folks...
[16:28] <mahngiel> DarsVaeda: which card do u have
[16:29] <MenZa> DarsVaeda: Are you running seperate X sessions?
[16:29] <DarsVaeda> its twin view
[16:29] <mbeierl> Valentina: yippee!  You've got yourself a backup disk.  No, wait ... does it format without errors, that's the next question!?!
[16:29] <Tamale> Hello everyone! Upon upgrading to 9.10 from 9.04, my main menu is messed up.  "Places" and "system" are half the height of all the other items in the list, for all GTK themes.  How can I fix this?
[16:29] <mahngiel> DarsVaeda: which proprietary drivers are installed
[16:29] <DarsVaeda> 185.18.36
[16:30] <DarsVaeda> i don't know the name of the card, some dell-pc
[16:30] <gregflint> I'd like to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix on a non Atom based lapotp... (on a Dell Latitude D600) it meets the system requirements, and when I boot off of the USB Live CD, it works great, but when I install, I get logged in and the video goes to crap... any recommendations?
[16:30] <mahngiel> DarsVaeda: are there any other recommended drivers?
[16:30] <freaky[t]> is there any program i can make screenshots with for gnome?
[16:30] <DarsVaeda> it has a quadro nvs 285
[16:30] <freaky[t]> like ksnapshot?
[16:30] <mahngiel> freaky[t]: there is an installed program already for that <checks for name>
[16:30] <DarsVaeda> two other or so, i just took the recommended one
[16:31] <MenZa> freaky[t]: Try pressing Print Screen.
[16:31] <dAlfa89_> freaky[t], gsnapshot  :D
[16:31] <DarsVaeda> version 173 and 96 also available
[16:31] <eddym> how do i set rhytmbox as default audio player
[16:31] <Mosx> hi, I'm a complete newbie here: trying to set up apache under 9.10 and use VirtualHosts....I'm using /srv/www/sitename.com/public_html/ as the virtual sites root....but I don't have permissions to move files there using nautilus....it's a little annoying - how can I fix that ?
[16:31] <mahngiel> DAlfa89: thanks
[16:31] <DarsVaeda> but i remember using this version on 9.04 and it worked
[16:31] <saerg> Tamale: try changing the icon theme
[16:31] <mahngiel> eddym: preferred applications
[16:31] <MenZa> Mosx: You need to give yourself permissions for it - or set yourself as the owner of that directory
[16:31] <mahngiel> eddym: system > applications > preferred applications
[16:32] <Mosx> just right click the folder and choose properties | permissions from Nautilus then ?
[16:32] <MenZa> Mosx: Alternatively, set yourself to group www-date (sudo adduser $USER www-data), then sudo chmod -R 775 /srv/www/sitename.com/public_html
[16:32] <eddym> mahngiel: pref apps not there
[16:32] <saurav> the final release of  karmic has stll some major  problems , do you agree ?
[16:33] <eddym> found it
[16:33] <eddym> under admin
[16:33] <bastidrazor> freaky[t]: the actual application is gnome-screenshot ..and yes it can be access by hittnig the print screen button
[16:33] <MenZa> Mosx: No - currently, you don't have permissions to *change* the permissions :)
[16:33] <saerg> freaky[t]: gnome-screenshot is installed by default
[16:33] <mahngiel> eddym: lol, it's under pref in mine
[16:33] <eddym> lol
[16:33] <freaky[t]> ok thank you :D
[16:33] <MenZa> Mosx: It's owned by www-data (a group, and *possibly* a user, I'm not sure about this), which has full read/write capabilities.
[16:33] <eddym> but its set for rythm still opens in a dfrnt player
[16:33] <MenZa> Mosx: You will need to log out and back in for it to work, however.
[16:33] <mahngiel> eddym: does rhythm know how to operate the file you are running?
[16:34] <Mosx> I just created the folder after doing a sudo su from a terminal prompt
[16:34] <mahngiel> eddym: has rhythm downloaded the plugins i mean
[16:34] <freaky[t]> bassliner, saerg, ok thank you :D
[16:34] <eddym> mahngiel: not sue
[16:34] <eddym> sure
[16:34] <Mosx> I see it is indeed owned by root
[16:34] <mahngiel> eddym: open rhythm and open the file
[16:34] <MenZa> Mosx: Yeah, root will always have permissions to read/write everything.
[16:34] <mahngiel> or you can always "sudo su"
[16:35] <MenZa> Mosx: You can chown it to yourself; sudo chown $USER:www-data /path
[16:35] <saerg> mahngiel: sudo -i
[16:35] <MenZa> Mosx: sorry, sudo chown $USER:www-data -R /path
[16:35] <mbeierl> I lose
[16:35] <MenZa> Mosx: You may have to reverse those; i.e. -R $USER:www-data /path
[16:35] <mahngiel> saerg: thanks
[16:35] <MenZa> Mosx: I keep getting the order of those wrong.
[16:36] <mahngiel> eddym: any luck?
[16:36] <mikebeecham1> hi guys...does anyone know anything about Flash websites not running correctly when using Metacity and/or Compiz?
[16:36] <mahngiel> mikebeecham: ya they flicker
[16:36] <eddym> mahngiel:defaults to mplayer
[16:36] <blackxored> I have a custom chroot using schroot and lvm, and some programs fail like "Fatal: no entropy gathering module detected", what does that mean and how can be fixed????
[16:37] <mikebeecham1> mahngiel: I was thinking more than you cannot get any flash buttons to work
[16:37] <mikebeecham1> and is there a workaround?
[16:37] <mahngiel> mikebeecham1: i'm not sure, compiz lasted about 30 mins on my setup before i del'd it
[16:37] <Mosx> nice one - chown sorted it
[16:37] <mbeierl> mikebeecham1: there is bug 452938: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/452938
[16:37] <mahngiel> eddym: so are you good?
[16:38] <gmathews> Hey all. I am running Ubuntu 9.04. I want to create a new partition using the free space that is on my ext3 partition so that i can install 9.10. So something like partition manager for linux. Any ideas?
[16:38] <eddym> mahngiel: not yet
[16:38] <mikebeecham1> mahngiel: what?  Compiz is lovely ;)
[16:38] <mahngiel> eddym: did rhythm open the file?
[16:39] <blackxored> anyone?
[16:39] <eddym> mah:no mplayer
[16:39] <mahngiel> mikebeecham1: lol. it was cute. but i'm not worried about cute
[16:39] <iamkitchen> mahngiel: hey thanks! you solved my problem before I even asked about it :)
[16:39] <ki4cgp> gmathews, gparted
[16:39] <gmathews> ki4cgp: is it like partition magic?
[16:39] <mahngiel> iamkitchen: you're welcome
[16:39] <mikebeecham1> mahngiel: couldn't imagine what my linux would be like without it
[16:39] <mikebeecham1> lol
[16:39] <ki4cgp> gmathews, yes, google it
[16:39] <Valentina> Will bubblegum be a good solution of noicy hard drives?
[16:39] <mahngiel> mikebeecham1: :)
[16:40] <mahngiel> eddym: what file type are you trying to open
[16:40] <mbeierl> Valentina: sure.  just be sure to pry the case open first...
[16:40] <eddym> mah: mp3
[16:40] <gmathews> ki4cgp: thanks will try it
[16:40] <kartook> how can i connect india relience Datacard in my ubuntu 9.04 ?
[16:40] <spwelton> Valentina: I've actually seen people suspend HDD's from bungees to keep them silent. Myself, my case has rubber grommets to isolate noise. I can thrash the HDD's and not hear them
[16:40] <mahngiel> eddym: have you dnld'd the mp3 flugin pkg from synaptic?
[16:40] <ki4cgp> gmathews, of course.  Have fun.
[16:41] <Mosx> is the hosts file called hosts.conf ? I now need to set the hostname to point to localhost
[16:41] <eddym> mah not i didnt
[16:41] <mahngiel> eddym: give that a whirl mate
[16:41] <eddym> mah it plays mp3s but i have to select on the prg
[16:42] <eddym> doesnt default
[16:42] <kartook> I need to use mobile broadband connection in india -- reliance -net connect .....
[16:42] <mahngiel> eddym: try another audio player... i just downloaded Banshee
[16:42] <mahngiel> and i like it alot
[16:43] <Bilz> hello, this is a weird request. i want some sort of application to change the name of my wireless AP that appears under network manager. i basically want it to look like im connecting to another AP rather than my own. any ideas?
[16:43] <linuxnoob58> Has the Karmic Koala login issue been resolved?
[16:43] <eddym> what is the best
[16:43] <metropolis> Anyone here use a ubuntu machine as a router and have a recommended nat/firewall gui?
[16:43] <eddym> best audio player
[16:43] <purma> kaffeine is whining about some demultiplexer plugin and wont play anything (no dvd or television)
[16:43] <wakdep_> metro - pfsense
[16:43] <mahngiel> eddym: that is up for debate. i've tried exail, banshee , and VLC
[16:43] <mahngiel> i like banshee best
[16:44] <maxagaz_> how to redirect the output of my x server to the screen of another computer of my network ?
[16:44] <dp> new install of 9.10, and some applications (Chrome, Wine-based, etc) have some hidden text; in Chrome, HTML Select boxes don't show the other selections, in Wine, lots of text is hidden.  any suggestions?
[16:44] <PND> dp, change your theme ?
[16:44] <varun> hello everyone
[16:44] <PND> hello varun
[16:45] <dp> PND: default theme
[16:45] <mahngiel> hi varun
[16:45] <varun> back after a decent bit of time
[16:45] <varun> hello
[16:45] <varun> pnd  and mahngiel
[16:45] <mahngiel> varum: g'day to you :)
[16:45] <varun> I always find ppl with very interesting names here
[16:45] <eddym> mahngiel, lol
[16:45] <PND> Huhu.
[16:45] <PND> That's not my assignate nickname.
[16:45] <varun> hahaha
[16:46] <varun> so pnd where are you from
[16:46] <Bilz> hello, this is a weird request. i want some sort of application to change the name of my wireless AP that appears under network manager. i basically want it to look like im connecting to another AP rather than my own. any ideas?
[16:46] <mahngiel> Bliz: are you trying to fool the company you are fleecing the wireless off of? lol
[16:46] <Bilz> lol
[16:46] <Bilz> no
[16:46] <saerg> dp: does happen with other themes eg. clearlooks?
[16:47] <Bilz> just that when my flat mate uses my laptop, i want him to see a certain AP
[16:47] <dp> saerg: I've not tried any other themes yet.  let me verify
[16:47] <Bilz> any ideas?
[16:47] <mbeierl> Bilz: if you go to network manager's applet, right click and edit network connections, you can give it a different display name
[16:47] <PND> varun, Kinda nowhere, I'm sick for sure. When I'm sick, I'm in outta space for sure.
[16:47] <mahngiel> personally no. i've only been using unix/ubuntu for about 3 days
[16:48] <dp> saerg: unless I need to reboot for theme changes to take effect, then yes, it happens with other themes
[16:48] <rashed2020> I installed another version of Linux (based on Ubuntu) next to my current installation of Ubuntu. Now my old installation won't boot. Grub says File not Found
[16:48] <mahngiel> unless you are able hide the network with ".name" and put up a fake network connection w/ a different icon
[16:48] <Bilz> thanks mbeierl , giving it ago
[16:48] <dp> actually, gotta reboot anyway
[16:48] <saerg> dp: you don't have to reboot
[16:49] <dp> saerg: ok.  well, just installed a proprietary driver, so... brb
[16:49] <mahngiel> any work arounds for the suspsend issue yet?
[16:49] <pticochon> does anyone use wireshark here?
[16:49] <mahngiel> what's the prgm for pti
[16:50] <Bilz> not good enough mbeierl. u reckon if i give it a wrong ESSID name, and the correct mac AP, itll still connect and show the wrong name?
[16:50] <trijntje> !anyone | pticochon
[16:50] <eddym> mahngiel, just did the dl
[16:51] <pticochon> eth.src[0:3] == 00:00:83
[16:51] <mbeierl> Bilz: do not know.  and don't have a wireless here to play with right now
[16:51] <pticochon> I wanted to know what does that mean?
[16:51] <mahngiel> eddym: lemme know what u think and if it works. if you like it, use pref. app. prgm
[16:51] <pticochon> as a display filetr
[16:51] <Valentina> What will happend if I have a cron job running a script that copies data to a backup device at 23:55 and another at 23:58. Will the latter one be delayed depending on the computer beeing busy with the first one?
[16:51] <eddym> mahngiel, they are similar i used media monkey.. where it levels the sound of all your mp3s
[16:51] <eddym> mahngiel, do u have a andriod phone?
[16:52] <clearscreen> Valentina: they run asynchronous, so no, they wont be delayed
[16:52] <Zee> Is this the main ubuntu support line?
[16:52] <mbeierl> Valentina: no it does not.  cron kicks off jobs at the requested time, regardless of how long the prior one takes
[16:52] <mahngiel> eddym: no, but i would like one. it seems like it's basically a Unix phone??
[16:52] <pkkm> how to recover files deleted from trash?
[16:52] <mahngiel> pkkm: talk to the FBI, they're pros at that
[16:52] <mbeierl> Zee: kinda.  we're all volunteers here, but we attempt to help!
[16:52] <eddym> mahngiel, yeah sciphone n21 looks wicked
[16:53] <Mosx> any reason why I cannot see a .htaccess file with Nautilus ?
[16:53] <Zee> okie dokie mbeierl
[16:53] <bastidrazor> !recover | pkkm
[16:53] <mahngiel> <-- is learning while i "attempt" to help
[16:53] <PND> Mosx, hit Ctrl + H
[16:53] <Pici> Mosx: Because dotfiles are hidden, use ctrl-h to see them
[16:53] <mahngiel> Mosx it's hidden
[16:53] <PND> Mosx, then you'll see hidden files
[16:53] <dp> saerg: reboot didn't help either
[16:53] <clearscreen> Mosx: files that start with . are hidden files, you can toggle looking at hidden files by pressing CTRL+H
[16:53] <mahngiel> Mosx: all fines b... what clearscreen said
[16:53] <eddym> mahngiel, not cheap like 300 but its phat
[16:53] <shoot^> Mosx, 'show hidden files'
[16:53] <PND> xD
[16:53] <Valentina> spwelton: It seems expensive to buy these grommets, won't it be cheaper using some other stuff to keep em quiet?
[16:53] <mahngiel> eddym: neat
[16:54] <Mosx> nice thanks a lot
[16:54] <eddym> mahngiel, wher r u what country?
[16:54] <Valentina> mbeierl: Ok, but I mena that the hardware beeing busy copying files so that the other backup have to wait?
[16:54] <mahngiel> eddym: states
[16:54] <rashed2020> Is there a way to get grub to automaticaly reset itself?
[16:54] <Valentina> *mena
[16:54] <spud_> uit
[16:54] <Valentina> *mean
[16:54] <GuidMorrow> how do I work with devices connected to COM1
[16:54] <spwelton> Valentina: my case came with them, but I must confess I've used things such as duct tape in pursuit of a silent computer. I've heard of people using zip ties and rubber bands to the same effect as the rubber grommets
[16:54] <saerg> dp: can you change the colour theme in wine? i never used it...
[16:55] <mbeierl> Valentina: still no: two programs can write to the same disk at the same time.
[16:55] <xt28> Valentina, did you manage to solve your partitioning problem?
[16:55] <dp> saerg: not sure, honestly
[16:55] <spwelton> Valentina: This link seems to also be a popular way of silencing HDD's <http://lifehacker.com/378786/silence-your-hard-drive-with-elastic-suspenders>
[16:55] <mahngiel> mbeirerl: have you heard any work-around issues for the suspend function?
[16:56] <Valentina> spwelton: I have to try rubberbands, I think.
[16:56] <aman> hi
[16:56] <gnusar> can anyone tell me how to do this right? i think its pretty clear that i want to open the terminal and execute the following: gome-terminal -x echo foo | echo bar, i also tried it with -e
[16:56] <mbeierl> mahngiel: sorry - suspend?  I'm forgetful :)  suspending when there's no battery?
[16:57] <spwelton> Valentina: sure, give it a try! It is nice to not have to listen to HDD's clacking away sometimes. Especially if you have loud drives
[16:57] <aman> anybody to help to install yahoo messanger
[16:57] <enzotib> gnusar: what are you trying to do?
[16:57] <Valentina> xt28: Yes, I did. I think I did no chnage at all to the partition at sdc. Then the hard drive at sda seem to be damaged. Now I have added a new one that works fine. I have repartioning it, formatting it using ext4 and then added it's UUID to the fstab file. Then I rebooted and it works just fine.
[16:57] <Mosx> can somebody help me with my .htaccess file - i'm just trying to set up a simple rewrite rule...
[16:57] <Valentina> xt28: Thansk to all of you and mbeierl in especial.
[16:58] <aman> to install google talk and yahoo messanger
[16:58] <saerg> dp: does changing those colours help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine#Color%20Scheme
[16:58] <gnusar> enzotib: i want to start a terminal which starts gnuplot and executes a file
[16:58] <mahngiel> mbeirerl: in karmic i (and many others from what i've read) are having issues returning from suspend. only black screen and HDD spinning. have to hard boot
[16:58] <Mosx> currently when I put the .htaccess file in the folder I get a 403
[16:58] <xt28> Valentina: cool! i'm glad to hear it. =)
[16:58] <mahngiel> Valentina: congrats
[16:58] <aman> anybody to help me
[16:58] <Valentina> It was a tricky one that Ubuntu changed the sdX when I pluged in another hard drive.
[16:58] <ingw3> hej, i use repo empathy IM with video/audio support. My question how to broadcast my video if my contact has now webcam. I can start video broadcasting just if contact has webcam...
[16:58] <mahngiel> aman: with??
[16:58] <gnusar> enzotib: so my thought is something like gnome-terminal -x "gnuplot --file= blah"
[16:58] <Valentina> mahngiel: Thanks. :)
[16:59] <enzotib> gnusar: what would be the command alone, without gnome-terminal?
[16:59] <aman> installing google talk
[16:59] <hydrozen> Hi. I am trying to setup some samba shares on my ubuntu box.... and having problems with permissions. Over samba, files are created with rw-r--r-- mode, yet i would want rw-rw----. I tried a bunch of options (and restarted samba) yet it always creates files with rw-r--r--.... here's what my configuration looks like for the share : http://pastie.org/692109
[16:59] <mahngiel> aman: did you dnld the file off the net or use synaptic?
[16:59] <aman> plz help me
[16:59] <enzotib> gnusar: try: gnome-terminale -x sh -c 'gnuplot --file="blah"'
[16:59] <mbeierl> mahngiel: I have not, but then I am a Tux On Ice fan and use that instead of the kernel hibernation.  It works well with hibernate script.  But for karmic the straight suspend-to-ram and resume oddly enough works finally for me
[16:59] <gnusar> enzotib: i am wondering about that too right now ;) but i can't even get an echo to work with an argument
[16:59] <saerg> aman: you can use empathy, ym for linux is very outdated
[16:59] <mbeierl> aman: did you try empathy or pidgin?
[16:59] <DarkClouds__> can someone tell me how to fix internet connection ?
[16:59] <aman> no
[17:00] <Mosx> I have a RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f [NC]
[17:00] <Mosx> and a RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d [NC]
[17:00] <Valentina> I used UUID=x ext4 defaults 0 2, I think. That's the same one as my /home uses. Will that be fine for my new hard drive that uses ext4 too?
[17:00] <mahngiel> mbeierl: does that replace the unix kernel i am using?
[17:00] <purma> im getting error in kaffeine and cant play anything. it just says "Cannot
[17:00] <purma> find demultiplexer plugin for the given media data"
[17:00] <mahngiel> mbeierl: or is that like an appendage?
[17:00] <Mosx> then a RewriteRule ^(.*)$ index.php?page=$1 [L]
[17:00] <aman> mbeierl plz tell me how
[17:01] <aman> yes tell me how
[17:01] <mbeierl> mahngiel: it is a set of modules, but yes it is an alternate kernel.  Looking for the ppa now, but it's basically the same karmic kernel, with tux on ice hibernation built in
[17:01] <mahngiel> DarkClouds__: what is up?
[17:01] <Mosx> I'm guessing I need a RewriteBase ?
[17:01] <saerg> purma: what input?
[17:01] <mahngiel> mbeirerl: thank you, take your time
[17:02] <gnusar> enzotib: well lets forget about gnuplot for that.. gnome-terminal -x sh -c 'echo argh' should work too, doesn't it? i dont get it to run
[17:02] <mbeierl> aman: there's a program in the applications -> internet and it's called Empathy
[17:02] <mahngiel> DarkClouds__ what is your internet issue?
[17:02] <purma> saerg: im trying to play dvd and use my dvb-c box but it says the same message. it worked fine in 9.04
[17:03] <Veinor> how can I determine why a package is being kept back?
[17:03] <parallels> anyone with issues using transmission?
[17:03] <DarkClouds__> last night connected using "sudo pppoeconf"  but now it wont do
[17:03] <enzotib> gnusar: try sleep 13, instead od echo, and you will see the terminal
[17:04] <F4wltytowers> That doesn't work for me
[17:04] <saerg> purma: do other inputs play? dvd encryption is not free, maybe it needs to be installed first
[17:04] <ki4cgp> veinor apt-cache show <package you are trying to install>
[17:04] <hdon> anyone else having pidgin freeze suddenly?
[17:04] <ki4cgp> Veinor, It should list in there conflicts
[17:04] <mahngiel> mbeierl: you using the jaunty tux-on-ice kernal on karmic? or ...
[17:05] <Veinor> hm
[17:05] <llwp> having an issue trying to su from root to another user. does not seem to change users. whoami still returns root.
[17:05] <Veinor> specifically, the linux-generic and linux-backport modules aren't being updated
[17:05] <purma> saerg: i think ive installed all the encryption stuff. totem plays my dvd just fine
[17:05] <gnusar> enzotib: i see.. i will try out some more things.. thanks!
[17:06] <mbeierl> mahngiel: I used the jaunty on jaunty.  Have not tried karmic yet.  Here's the website http://www.tuxonice.net/ and the ppa info is in the latest news section
[17:06] <kreator> what file system should i use on a SSD?
[17:06] <Veinor> llwp: are you doing sudo -iu user
[17:06] <Veinor> ?
[17:06] <mosta> r u therreeeeeeeeeeeee
[17:06] <fosco__> kreator, the one you need
[17:06] <om26er> kreator: high speed ssd or the netbook ssd?
[17:06] <llwp> no just su user. had worked before, but i think it was a diff shell.
[17:06] <kreator> high speed ssd
[17:06] <mahngiel> mbeierl: thanks. ya, i'm on it now. forgive me, i'm brand new to unix OS' and have only been using about 3 days
[17:06] <Veinor> sudo is preferred over su, I think
[17:06] <spwelton> kreator: I would probably use ext4, but I'm not very knowledgeable on SSD's
[17:06] <om26er> kreator: i would say ext3
[17:07] <kreator> on SSD's they go bad over time
[17:07] <Veinor> -i means 'interactive', i.e. shell, and -u user means 'as user'
[17:07] <kreator> im thinking a journaling file system might be hard on it
[17:07] <saerg> pruma: does kaffeine use gstreamer, too? try asking in #kubuntu
[17:07] <kreator> right?
[17:07] <llwp> -i "invalid option"
[17:07] <xt28> !enter | kreator
[17:07] <Veinor> llwp: use sudo, not su
[17:08] <xt28> llwp: Veinor was talking about sudo options, not su options.
[17:08] <purma> saerg: i think it doesnt
[17:08] <mbeierl> mahngiel: oh!  ok.  well adding a new ppa might not be the best for a first time user, but it's basically like so: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tuxonice/ppa" from a terminal.  PPA = personal package archive which means that it is maintained by a regular developer, not official Canonical Ubuntu support team
[17:08] <spwelton> kreator: IDK, you might have a hard time finding a non-journalling file system that is halfway decent. Even ext2 has journalling IIRC
[17:08] <hdon> oh, my /home filesystem is full. i have used file-light from KDE before and i enjoyed that. is there a non-KDE app like that in ubuntu?
[17:08] <Pici> llwp, Veinor: su should work fine for changing into another user (just not root, since that account is locked by default)
[17:08] <llwp> ok.. did sudo, same result.
[17:08] <Veinor> I'm just used to using sudo, I guess
[17:08] <Veinor> heh
[17:08] <trism> gnusar: if you want the terminal to stay up after you run your commands, you could put them in a separate file and do gnome-terminal -x bash --init-file "/path/to/file"
[17:08] <om26er> purma: see kaffeine in wikipedia it will tell you
[17:09] <Mosx> still getting 403 Forbidden here - my .htaccess is just:
[17:09] <Mosx> RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
[17:09] <Mosx> RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
[17:09] <llwp> goes to next line without error but whoami is still root.
[17:09] <Mosx> RewriteRule ^(.+)$ index.php?page=$1&%{QUERY_STRING} [L]
[17:09] <om26er> purma: it uses xine by default but can use gstreamer
[17:09] <ki4cgp> llwp: sudo -i has always given me an interactive root shell
[17:09] <mahngiel> mbeierl: gotchya. T.O.I. says it has one for karmic. i'm going to give it a whirl. since it's only an update for  the hibernation problem. i think that only impacts said issue, no?
[17:09] <xt28> !paste | Mosx
[17:09] <Pici> Mosx: #httpd (the apache channel) might be a more appropriate place to ask if you're not getting an answer here.
[17:09] <Valentina> Oh, I almost can't belive what difference some rubberbands did! Amazing.
[17:09] <Pici> llwp: su SOMEUSERNAME    should work fine.
[17:09] <purma> om26er: aight. thanks
[17:10] <llwp> it used to. doesnt seem to now.
[17:10] <mbeierl> mahngiel: correct.  You might want to give the hibernate script a whirl too as it allows you to configure actions pre/post hibernate
[17:10] <Mosx> thx Pici
[17:10] <spwelton> Valentina: so it worked, huh? Glad to hear that!
[17:10] <Zee> how do i download compiz fusion and do the spinning cube desktop?
[17:10] <saerg> purma: it depends on phonon. so it can use xine or gstreamer.
[17:10] <Valentina> How do I get the tempereture of my server, processor and system temp?
[17:10] <llwp> im thinking its a shell issue. maybe my profile has a bad default shell defined? checking.
[17:10] <bastidrazor> Valentina: acpi -V
[17:10] <xt28> Valentina: system temp: acpi -t
[17:10] <ischliky> hoping someone can help me with a printing concern, a standard ubuntu 9.04 installation with a self detected driver for a HP printer waits around 2-5mins to print, and often hangs after a few pages, any help where to start?
[17:11] <gnusar> trism: so the file is something like a script then?
[17:11] <Valentina> spwelton: Yeah, at leats it did a lot. I was just placing some rubberband between the hard drives and the chassis. I will have to use soe more to get it really of the chassis.
[17:11] <spwelton> Valentina: you might want to install sensors-applet
[17:11] <craigbass1976> I've an ubuntu dev box and a (headless) cent live box (LAMP)  I've had it with whatever is going on with the cent box.  Is there anything special to ubuntu server edition?
[17:11] <xt28> llwp, if you do su <user>; echo $? - what does that return?
[17:11] <craigbass1976> ischliky, is it only when you print pdf files?
[17:11] <ZoeyMarie> Can someone help me figure out why my facebook inbox isn't loading in firefox? I'm pretty sure that I have flash installed, and am not sure what the problem would be otherwise...
[17:11] <Zee> How do i download compiz fusion and?
[17:11] <hsahsgdsaa> ubuntu 9.10 latest firefox crashes when I try to restart it to install an addon. What shall I do?
[17:11] <llwp> .bashrc and .cshrc are empty!?
[17:11] <mahngiel> mbeierl: after i add the repos, then it should be in synaptic, ya?
[17:12] <steffan> !compiz > Zee
[17:12] <purma> saerg: ok thanks. ill try to figure out how to make it use gstreamer
[17:12] <bastidrazor> Zee: compiz is installed by default.
[17:12] <craigbass1976> ZoeyMarie, I have a problem sometimes looking at ALL FIRENDS; could be a similar issue
[17:12] <Valentina> Strange, on my other computer where I also have Ubuntu Server installed I see the system tempereature every time I log into the system, why doesn't I do this on my new server?
[17:12] <xt28> llwp: odd. but that shouldn't be your problem.
[17:12] <Veinor> for some reason apt-get won't upgrade the various kernel metapackages
[17:12] <bastidrazor> !ccsm | Zee
[17:12] <mbeierl> mahngiel: it has the same name as the existing kernel so that it gets replaced and kept up to date automatically
[17:12] <ischliky> craigbass1976, its actually my mothers computer ill ask here quickly, but i dont think so, but i will double check before i give bad info
[17:12] <Zee> ok thank you
[17:12] <llwp> xt28 ... then im at a loss.
[17:12] <xt28> llwp: if you want to restore them, copy them over from /etc/skel
[17:12] <ZoeyMarie> craigbass1976: how do you fix it?
[17:12] <Pici> Veinor: Are you using apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[17:12] <mahngiel> mbeierl: oh, ok. so once i've sudo'd it in, then it's been done. ?
[17:12] <skx> I have Ubuntu 9.10 installed on an LVM in an encrypted container and apparently, after the reboot, the filesystem was corrupted, is there any way to recover from that? it does not accept my password (yes, it's the correct one)
[17:12] <Veinor> Pici: upgrade, but I'm on karmic already
[17:13] <spwelton> Valentina: I'm not very familiar with server edition, do you use a GUI? If so, you may have had sensors-applet installed
[17:13] <varun> hello again
[17:13] <mbeierl> mahngiel: sudo aptitude update and then sudo aptitude safe-upgrade (or apt-get as you prefer)
[17:13] <Pici> Veinor: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already
[17:13] <Pici> Veinor: installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed.
[17:13] <craigbass1976> ischliky, if it is, then it's part of a known printing pdf bug.  This printer is hooked up directly, or via ethernet on the LAN?
[17:13] <Veinor> ah.
[17:13] <hsahsgdsaa> ubuntu 9.10 latest firefox crashes when I try to restart it to install an addon. What shall I do?
[17:13] <Veinor> ahh, now I know why it's doing it.
[17:13] <xt28> Valentina: i believe there is a cron job updating /etc/issue with this information. or something like that...
[17:13] <Valentina> spwelton: No, I pnluy have cli.
[17:13] <Valentina> *only
[17:13] <Pici> Veinor: Which is handy because thats how meta-packages work (new package dependencies)
[17:13] <ischliky> craigbass1976, directly via USB
[17:13] <mbeierl> Pici: isn't dist-upgrade now called full-upgrade?
[17:14] <Pici> mbeierl: Only in aptitude
[17:14] <spwelton> Valentina: oh, okay, in that case acpi -t should work...
[17:14] <mbeierl> Pici: ah, ok.  thanks!
[17:14] <craigbass1976> ischliky, no idea then, and I'm sitll up to my elbows trying to fix the issue I'm referring to.  Sorry, can't help
[17:14] <Bentley> hi all - I'm trying to ssh to a remote server, which is locked down pretty tight. From win+putty, I can log in no problem.  However, when I try from ubuntu the ssh command returns with Received disconnect from X.X.X.X: 7: Unsupported request (shell).  I'm guessing it's some ssh client config that is causing it to send the "shell" command, but i can't figure out what... any ideas?
[17:14] <mahngiel> hsahsgdsaa: revert to 3.5
[17:14] <craigbass1976> ischliky, but I would google for ubuntu and your printer model
[17:14] <spwelton> Valentina: or there's a program called mbmon that might work well for you. It is CLI
[17:14] <Pici> mbeierl: And aptitude is a bit more forgiving when it comes to packages that depend on new packages now. But the remove stuff is the same.  Its manpage has more details.
[17:14] <hsahsgdsaa> mahngiel How?
[17:14] <Valentina> xt28: Oh, no, why is there a cron job issue, I haven't done anything exepct installing Ubuntu Server on my computer?
[17:14] <craigbass1976> Bentley, meh?  I'm not following you
[17:14] <bastidrazor> Valentina: you're trying to have a modified motd?
[17:15] <ischliky> craigbass1976, thanks for help, annoying to fix my moms computer across time zones, mine works great :)
[17:15] <Valentina> bastidrazor: What? I'm trying to just check the temperature of my server. I used another computer as server before and then I cpould see the system temperature when I was loged in using ssh.
[17:16] <virtuald> ~/.
[17:16] <mahngiel> hsahsgdsaa: use synaptic to download firefox 3.5
[17:16] <craigbass1976> Valentina, lmsensors should tell you something
[17:16] <Bentley> craigbass1976: I try to ssh (from ubuntu) to a remote server (not ubuntu). When i try, the ssh command returns with "Received disconnect from XX.X.XX.XXX: 7: Unsupported request (shell).".
[17:16] <xt28> Valentina: bastidrazor is right. it's /etc/motd, not /etc/issue that i meant.
[17:16] <craigbass1976> Bentley, what's the server running?  OS?
[17:16] <mbeierl> anyone know how to autoremove outdated kernels?
[17:16] <bastidrazor> Valentina: ahh, what to add in /etc/motd and /etc/motd.tail i don't know to get that. but those are the files you will be modifying
[17:17] <craigbass1976> Bentley, and is this server at the same ip as another server that you once logged into from your ubuntu box?
[17:17] <Valentina> bastidrazor: Aha, ok.
[17:17] <mahngiel> i think i seen something about that in Ubuntu Pocket Guide
[17:17] <xt28> bastidrazor, Valentina: i believe there is a cron job that does this, isn't there? (on desktop systems at least?)
[17:17] <Valentina> xt28: Well, on my other computer that worked from scratch.
[17:18] <Valentina> xt28: without installing any sensors or so.
[17:18] <devilbues> hi, can anybody tell me when I plug in a digital camera on gnome, where does it mount the files?
[17:18] <mahngiel> virtually
[17:18] <xt28> Valentina: yeah, that's why i think there is a cron job for that in the default (desktop?) install.
[17:18] <bastidrazor> xt28: Valentina yes, update-motd runs to update this. it reads from /etc/motd.tail to overwrite /etc/motd  .. what you would add in motd.tail to get temps to display i don't know.
[17:18] <trism> gnusar: yes, the file is a bash shell script
[17:19] <iceroot> devilbues: /media/
[17:19] <Valentina> xt28: No, default server installation.
[17:19] <gnusar> trism: thank you
[17:19] <xt28> llwp: have you tried su <user>; echo $? to get the return code?
[17:19] <Valentina> xt28: I'm only talking about Ubuntu Server for now.
[17:19] <devilbues> iceroot: nops
[17:19] <saerg> devilbues: /media/xyz the name depends on the device
[17:19] <Bentley> craigbass1976: i can't tell what OS it is - some enterprise abomination. Nope, the server is at a different IP than any other server i've hit.  The problem is that the ssh command automatically sends a command to the remote server. The remote server is locked down so that all I can issue is "ls".  I can access it with Putty.
[17:19] <xt28> Valentina: okay.
[17:19] <Zee> in compiz fusion i have the zoom pan selected, whats the shortcut to zoom?#
[17:19] <xt28> Valentina: also, what bastidrazor said.
[17:20] <iceroot> devilbues: hm
[17:20] <iceroot> devilbues: then type "mount"
[17:20] <bastidrazor> xt28: as of karmic i don't see the update-motd command. it may have been replaced with something else.
[17:20] <devilbues> saerg: I don't see anything mounted there, although I can see the pictures with GPHOTO
[17:20] <Valentina> xt28: I had Ubuntu Server 9.04 installed on another computer, then I cpuld see the temperature of the system right after I logged in using ssh, but on my new server computer I can't see anything like that.
[17:20] <Valentina> xt28: using Ubuntu Server 9.10.
[17:20] <Zee> whats the super key?
[17:20] <iceroot> Zee: windows-key
[17:20] <fosco__> Zee, the windows logo one
[17:21] <Zee> okie dokie :)
[17:21] <mmjj23> windows key
[17:21] <Valentina> xtHow can I see however I use the 64-bit or 32-bit version? I was having problem knowing whatever I downloaded form Ubuntu. (I think I use the 32-bit).
[17:22] <Zee> what does this mean <super>button4 ?
[17:22] <iceroot> Valentina: uname -r
[17:22] <bastidrazor> Valentina: uname -m
[17:22] <Pici> Zee: Whatever button4 on your mouse is (it may not exist)
[17:22] <mbeierl> Zee: hold down Windows key and scroll the mouse wheel
[17:22] <Valentina> i686
[17:22] <sincity> #jakilinux
[17:22] <mmjj23> windows key + scroll down on mouse
[17:22] <Valentina> Would that be the 64-bit?
[17:22] <Zee> not working
[17:22] <bastidrazor> iceroot: that would show the kernel only.
[17:22] <bastidrazor> Valentina: that is 32 bit..
[17:22] <mbeierl> Valentina: no, _64 is 64 bit
[17:22] <iceroot> bastidrazor: yes and he was asking what is current system is using
[17:22] <xt28> bastidrazor: ah. (haven't tried karmic...)
[17:22] <Valentina> bastidrazor: Oh, thank God.
[17:23] <iceroot> bastidrazor: if i am correct 64bit kernel has the string amd64 in it
[17:23] <mahngiel> anybody have luck getting free yahoo! mail?
[17:23] <mbeierl> x86_64 for 64 bit
[17:23] <bastidrazor> iceroot: i have 64bit and it does not show amd64.
[17:23] <Chris___> my sound just quit working. I have no idea why.
[17:23] <iceroot> !ot | mahngiel
[17:23] <BluesKaj> iceroot, if your cpu is amd64 bit
[17:23] <iceroot> bastidrazor: ah ok, then i was wrong
[17:23] <bastidrazor> iceroot: good for a mental note :)
[17:23] <Chris___> mahngiel: yahoo mail is free, no?
[17:24] <Valentina> Ok, then I downloaded the right version but the download button on ubuntu.com didn't change it's text when I clicked to have the 32-bit version of Ubuntu Server.
[17:24] <mahngiel> Chris___: of course, but i mean getting it through evolution or thunderbird
[17:24] <Chris___> mahngiel: google "yahoo mail imap"
[17:24] <Valentina> It still said download 64-bit.
[17:24] <scarface> What's the best way to remove extra old Ubuntu entries on my grub menu from 9.04?  Can I just delete the relevant menuentry sections from grub.cfg and run update-grub?
[17:24] <janusza> hi
[17:24] <mahngiel> Chris___: been there, done that. but iceroot is right, wrong channel
[17:25] <Chris___> scarface: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:25] <mbeierl> scarface: that will only remove the entry, not free the kernel itself
[17:25] <xt28> scarface: no. remove the unneeded packages with synaptic, or so.
[17:25] <Chris___> scarface: be CAREFUL editing that file. if you don't know what you're doing, don't edit it at all.
[17:25] <bastidrazor> scarface: update-grub .. if the older OSes or kernel versoins are not there it will update accordingly
[17:25] <saerg> mahngiel: the free yahoo mail in the us doesn't support pop3/stmp but some the versions for some other countries do
[17:25] <MrSchmo> anyone in here is using 64bit and have trouble with flash, menu and stuff? is there a fix for it?
[17:25] <mbeierl> xt28, bastidrazor: do you know of a way to autopurge the old kernels?
[17:26] <mahngiel> MrSchmo: there is a bug report filed
[17:26] <bastidrazor> mbeierl: no autopurge.. use synaptic to uninstall .. or apt-get/aptitude
[17:26] <xt28> bastidrazor: i believe update-grub is run automatically after removing a kernel (post-rm).
[17:26] <Zee> In 'Appearance Preferences' under 'Visual Effects' When i select 'Custom', it gives me an error message saying 'Desktop effects could not be enabled', Can Anyone help? I am fairly new to ubuntu
[17:26] <mbeierl> MrSchmo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/452938 has details, but no fix yet
[17:26] <llwp> eureka!  for some reason i forgot that before i was specifying the shell.  this is the only difference, and without -s im not able to sudo.  must be config somewhere..
[17:26] <MrSchmo> mahngiel, oic. damn no solution yet
[17:26] <Tommi> Simple question...but how do I make my usb storage device writeable in kubuntu?
[17:27] <llwp> went and looked at my bash_history to figure it out.
[17:27] <mahngiel> MrSchmo: not yet boss
[17:27] <Tommi> Or find its name, even, to do it on the command line
[17:27] <Zee> In 'Appearance Preferences' under 'Visual Effects' When i select 'Custom', it gives me an error message saying 'Desktop effects could not be enabled', Can Anyone help? I am fairly new to ubuntu
[17:27] <bastidrazor> xt28: yes you are correct
[17:27] <xt28> mbeierl: that's probably a feature. you don't want old kernels removed before you know that the new one works...
[17:27] <scarface> I'm on 9.10 now.  I installed it into a new partition and left the 9.04 partition alone, so that's why I see these entries.  I'm going to keep the old 9.04 partition around for a while in case I want any old files, but I don't need the option to boot those old kernels.
[17:27] <mahngiel> Zee: have you installed the proprietary drivers for your video card yet?
[17:27] <gmathews> ki4cgp: you cant change anything on the partition that is mounted, which is my / so cant really resize ;/
[17:27] <MrSchmo> programmer are really having a slow pace when it comes to 64 bit programming
[17:27] <mahngiel> brb. going to test new kernel and suspend issue
[17:28] <mosta> hiiiiii
[17:28] <mahngiel> wish me luck!
[17:28] <Zee> Its not in there mahngiel
[17:28] <mosta> guyz
[17:28] <strike1> yes
[17:28] <xt28> llwp: do you have non-existent shells in /etc/passwd?
[17:28] <mosta> need help
[17:28] <mosta> in sharing files
[17:28] <xt28> mahngiel: good luck!
[17:28] <Zee> mahngiel i havnt installed anything for the video card
[17:28] <ki4cgp> gmathews, you can't change a disk that is mounted
[17:28] <llwp> dunno? ill go look
[17:28] <xt28> !enter | mosta
[17:29] <mbeierl> xt28: there used to be auto removal of deprecated kernels... but I don't know what happened to that
[17:29] <gmathews> ki4cgp: then how can i do anything :(
[17:29] <xt28> mbeierl: me, neither. sorry.
[17:29] <saerg> Zee: what is your video card?
[17:29] <ki4cgp> gmathews, your best bet is to boot with the liveCD, and then do your edits
[17:29] <Tamale> does evolution connect to exchange 2007 yet?
[17:29] <mosta> srrry
[17:29] <xt28> llwp: you do that.
[17:29] <ki4cgp> gmathews, let it start a liveCD desktop, and from there you will be able to do your partitioning
[17:30] <gmathews> ki4cgp: will try
[17:30] <llwp> xt28 yes, i do.. apparently to prevent logging in under certain users.
[17:30] <Zee> saerg can i type a code in terminal which tells me the card info?
[17:30] <mosta> so i need help ..how to share file
[17:30] <gmathews> is it possitble to upgrade uibuntu from 9.04 to 9.10 using the cd, then from there using the internet..bandwidth is quite limited where i come from..
[17:30] <Zee> saerg if so can you tell me the code?
[17:30] <IdleOne> Zee: lspci | grep VGA
[17:31] <llwp> things like :/bin/false and :/bin/nologin
[17:31] <dings> y
[17:31] <Blue1> From Jeremy -- I got a grub error 17 and I don't know how to fix itAny ideas?
[17:31] <Blue1> !grub 17
[17:31] <IdleOne> gmathews: yes but you need to use the Alternate install cd
[17:31] <xt28> llwp: the interesting thing is the shell for the user you are trying to su to.
[17:32] <Zee> My video card info "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 [Chrome 9 HC] (rev 01)"
[17:32] <Valentina> The most noicy hard drive is the one that has the file system on it. That wasn't good at all. It even makes a lot of noice when I'm holding it in my hand.
[17:32] <dupondje> rofl :D
[17:32] <kappabuntu> is there a reason why kernel 2.6.31-14 won't mount root?
[17:32] <dupondje> I start a m3u file, it starts totem
[17:32] <dupondje> I close it
[17:32] <dupondje> and music still plays ... wtf :)
[17:32] <Besogon> HI. How can I change position of the frame notification?
[17:32] <kappabuntu> 2.6.28-16 boots up fine :(
[17:32] <xt28> llwp: also, you are right, these entries are there to prevent logins as certain users.
[17:32] <Xcell> lol music on hold
[17:32] <mosta> can any 1 help me in sharing file
[17:32] <dupondje> and totem is not running anymore ...
[17:32] <dupondje> hehe :P
[17:32] <Xcell> pkill totem
[17:32] <bthomson> how do i restart usb in karmic
[17:33] <kjm88> Sorry to jump in here with this.  I have tried everything else. I bought a logitech wireless keyboard and mouse. I plugged in the usb receiver and followed the directions. Nothing happened. I left it plugged in and continued to use the PS2 keyboard while trying to resolve the issue. During this time I decided to upgrade to ubuntu 9.10. When my machine began to configure itself for the upgrade, prior to the actual download and configuration
[17:33] <pshr_> hey, could any one help me out by suggesting an API where mouse events can be recognized ?
[17:33] <llwp> yes the user im trying to su to has one of these, which is why i was specifying the shell before..
[17:33] <llwp> presumably. just didnt know it yet.
[17:33] <Zee> saerg: "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 [Chrome 9 HC] (rev 01)"
[17:33] <xt28> llwp: problem solved, then?
[17:33] <dupondje> nvm :P looked like it was some  flash sound :p
[17:33] <dupondje> on a website
[17:33] <dupondje> unnoticed ;)
[17:34] <Xcell> oh
[17:34] <llwp> yessir! tanks: Veinor Pici and most of all xt28!
[17:34] <Valentina> Is it possible to move the whole file system onto another hard drive replacing the old one?
[17:34] <saerg> Zee: sorry i don't know if it should work with these chips
[17:35] <mahngiel> grr
[17:35] <Valentina> Like relacing the disc that has got the whole file system without reinstalling the operating system?
[17:35] <Zee> saerg: ok thanks for ur time
[17:35] <mahngiel> no dice mbeierl
[17:35] <ibmx61> hi
[17:35] <mbeierl> mahngiel: after the reboot - same problem with suspend?
[17:36] <mahngiel> mhm
[17:36] <Besogon> Black notification windows in up left corner. How can I change position of them?
[17:36] <xt28> llwp: no problem!
[17:36] <xt28> you're welcome!
[17:36] <craigbass1976> Valentina, install only takes about an hour.
[17:36] <mat619> Hey! I'm currently pretty fed up with Karmic. All I'm trying to do is get some PDFs (map printouts from google maps) on paper with my Canon i560 printer, but all the graphic parts are way too bright. <Jeremy Clarkson> How hard can it be!? </Jeremy Clarkson>   Any ideas?
[17:37] <Zee> I have an error message saying 'Desktop effect could not be enabled'?
[17:37] <GJLenon> Morning
[17:37] <vMCubun> mourning
[17:38] <kappabuntu> Zee, means your graphics chip isn't strong enough  ?
[17:38] <vMCubun> i wanna make sure my computer is supersecure, should i be getting grsec? i dont have a clue what im ndoing though. .. is selinux is more easy to use option?
[17:38] <eGdx> Hi
[17:38] <saerg> Zee: try running this: http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check
[17:38] <eGdx> Im french
[17:38] <xt28> vMCubun: disconnect it from the internet?
[17:39] <vMCubun> haha, .....thats not an option
[17:39] <Concretesledge> is there a equalizer
[17:39] <bastidrazor> Zee: try in #compiz .. type /join #compiz
[17:39] <GJLenon> When I use WINE to access World of Warcraft, something is locking the WoW sub-directory and removing my permissions.  I can easily go in and re-apply premissions, but every time I load the game I am locked out again.  Any idea what is happening?
[17:39] <kappabuntu> Did anyone else have problems booting with 2.6.31 kernel?? I'm getting some "cannot mount root" problem on startup
[17:39] <Concretesledge> i can install?
[17:39] <Concretesledge> i use rythmbox
[17:39] <eGdx> Who use backtrack
[17:39] <vMCubun> i probably will do some point in the future just to check uot my system
[17:39] <Pici> eGdx: backtrack support is in #remote-exploit
[17:40] <eGdx> #remote-exploit
[17:40] <Valentina> craigbass1976: Yes, but I also have installed some softwares, configured LAMP etc.
[17:40] <mosta> guyz ....need help with sharing files
[17:40] <steffan> mosta: please ask your question
[17:40] <mahngiel> suspend = ubuntu's blue screen of death; 'cept it's black
[17:40] <kappabuntu> Was I supposed to install grub-pc with 2.6.31?
[17:40] <llutz> vMCubun: how about learning some basics about security first and after that, thinking about software to realize it?
[17:40] <Valentina> Crapy hard drive making noice not even being used.
[17:41] <Concretesledge> Does anyone know if Rythmbox has a equalizer, or what other sound program can i use that has one
[17:41] <llutz> vMCubun: all those stuff is pointless if you don't know what it does/how it works. so learning always is the 1st step
[17:41] <bastidrazor> !clone > Valentina this will help you get the same packages you've previously installed
[17:41] <mahngiel> someone tell me how to get my ubuntu kernel back?
[17:42] <kappabuntu> ^relevant to my interests, I can no longer see the rest of linux-image-2.6.28 in synaptic... gotta get virtualbox working again :( any tips?
[17:42] <splicereal> Concretesledge, search shows http://www.lirmm.fr/~morandat/index.php/Main/Tools  but, I've never used it, myself.
[17:43] <mbeierl> soswwet: cut it out with the advertising.  this is not a spam channel
[17:44] <gmathews> what is the best way to install ubuntu 9.10 on a 320 GB so that i will always have my /home even i install the next ubuntu version as a clean install (so basically making 2 partitions)
[17:44] <GJLenon> When I use WINE to access World of Warcraft, something is locking the WoW sub-directory and removing my permissions.  I can easily go in and re-apply premissions, but every time I load the game I am locked out again.  Any idea what is happening?
[17:44] <mahngiel> mbeierl: welcome back. now i got this kernel that doesn't work
[17:44] <mbeierl> mahngiel: sorry - what does not work about it?
[17:44] <Veinor> mbeierl: soswwet was advertising? I don't have them as saying anything
[17:45] <Take0n> cal is driving me crazy.. I use cal -mw to display calendar with week number and monday as first day of week but it doesn't work.. cal -m works just fine.. could someone help me? its manual sure doesn't..
[17:45] <Valentina> ubottu: Are you a real user or just a bot?
[17:45] <fosco__> !home | gmathews
[17:45] <mbeierl> Veinor: when I rejoined the channel - got advert from them about wanting a virtual server
[17:45] <Veinor> ahh.
[17:45] <mahngiel> mbeierl: it doesn't write to my disk, so i still get the black screen of death trying to return from suspend
[17:45] <Veinor> was only looking for in-channel stuff.
[17:46] <mbeierl> lemme see if they're still at it... brb
[17:46] <gmathews> fosco__: thanks having a look
[17:46] <mbeierl> (12:46:22 PM) soswwet: (notice) Welcome to #ubuntu channel. You want a Free Virtual Server? If so Visit: http://vpsnetwork.info
[17:46] <ScoutL-62> Your chan ROCKS!
[17:46] <bthomson> how to restart usb in ubuntu
[17:47] <strike1> kappabuntu: i got that a few times and then it stopped.  was trying to find a solution to it but it stopped happening.
[17:47] <mbeierl> Veinor: do you know who to call for that?
[17:47] <bthomson> *karmic
[17:47] <ScoutL-62> !torrents
[17:47] <mbeierl> Ah, thanks pici
[17:47] <ScoutL-62> !torrents
[17:47] <Veinor> #freenode ?
[17:48] <scarface> !clone
[17:48] <mbeierl> mahngiel: uname -a shows what?
[17:48] <mosta> any 1 can help me to share my file with swat
[17:49] <eddym> hey guys when u setup bit torrent on ubuntu what do u need to do
[17:49] <gmathews> fosco__: that is for users who have ubuntu already installed. Say i have a clean 320 GB can i create two partitions then for mount point select one for / and the other for /home - will that work?
[17:49] <mahngiel> mbeierl: one sec, must scroll up. was afk
[17:49] <erUSUL> eddym: nothing special.
[17:49] <Carok> hi
[17:49] <mbeierl> gmathews: yes, that will work and it's what I do for all my ubuntu installs
[17:49] <erUSUL> eddym: is just like in wondws fnd a client you like and start dling
[17:49] <llutz> !torrent > eddym
[17:49] <fosco__> gmathews, in a new installation just do a manual partition and make sure you se a separated /home partition
[17:50] <mahngiel> mbeierl: hm. shows the ubuntu kernel still.
[17:50] <jetienne> q. what is chkconfig alternative in ubuntu
[17:50] <mbeierl> mahngiel: not: 2.6.31-15-generic #49+tuxonice2-Ubuntu ?
[17:50] <andersbr> What program would you use to browse an Apple network?  I'm not seeing any of the available shares. Already tried installing avahi and netatalk, but it makes no difference.
[17:50] <mahngiel> mbeierl: no. 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu
[17:50] <davdm2010> hi to all. I have a question for opinions. Which cache program would you recommend for a typical LAMP install?
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> !lamp
[17:51] <mbeierl> mahngiel: sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude full-upgrade ?
[17:51] <mbeierl> mahngiel: brb...
[17:51] <mahngiel> mbeierl: i did the safe upgrade
[17:51] <mahngiel> i'll try full this time
[17:51] <jonathan_D1> anyone have any idea why my main user account will not login? enter password, screen goes black, then returns me to login screen
[17:51] <ReL1K> anyone running the nvidia geforce 230M on 9.10?
[17:51] <kankan_> i am using ubuntu karmic.intel motherboard.whenever i switch on the PC..after selection from GRUB..my screen gets blackand does not respond.
[17:51] <bohney> I'm having a problem with Update Manager with a deb I manually installed.  (I can no longer find this deb.)  Does anyone know how to fix: E: flashplugin-nonfree: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal.?
[17:51] <mbeierl> mahngiel: should be the same...
[17:51] <gmathews> mbeierl: so in my new 9.10 install /home will be from the second partition - will it do it automatically? so i can lets say version 10 of ubuntu comes out..i just install it on the first partition then use the second one to mount as /home then i can install the next ubuntu version fine while still preserving my /home which i will have now in 9.10?
[17:51] <kankan_> pls help me.
[17:51] <bthomson> how to restart usb in ubuntu karmic
[17:52] <llutz> jonathan_D1: tried to login on console?
[17:52] <jonathan_D1> llutz: i can login in failsafe gnome fine
[17:52] <mahngiel> mbeierl: got a GPG errror for no key verification
[17:52] <mahngiel> mbeierl: but it was attempting to find from medibuntu.org
[17:53] <llutz> jonathan_D1: pastebin output of "df -h / && ls -ld /tmp" pls
[17:53] <jab06y> quick question to anyone willing to field it. I'm using XBMC and the fullscreen is scrambled, unless i run the app from the command line with gksudo. Is there any way to add this command to the desktop program icon to ease my use. I tried it in the command box in properties but no dice.
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> !info xbmc
[17:54] <jonathan_D1> llutz: http://pastebin.com/m1b50b4f6
[17:54] <ReL1K> anyone running the nvidia geforce 230M on 9.10?
[17:54] <jab06y> im using intrepid, but i did get xbmc to work in carmic
[17:54] <jab06y> karmic
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> Id file a bug on the xbmc forums  and check for fix's there. running a video player as root. is extreme
[17:54] <llutz> jonathan_D1: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log or kdm.log for errors
[17:55] <splicereal> jab06y, try right-clicking on the desktop, then add a custom launcher.
[17:55] <kankan_> i am using ubuntu karmic.intel motherboard.whenever i switch on the PC..after selection from GRUB..my screen gets blackand does not respond.
[17:55] <MrSchmo> anyone having issue with using samba to accessing windows 7 folders/files? i get a return msg "Could not display smb://192.xxx.xxx.xxx/ Error: Failed to retrieve share list from server
[17:55] <MrSchmo> Please select another viewer and try again."
[17:55] <jab06y> thanks ill give that a shot
[17:55] <Cale> Hi, just upgraded to Karmic, and it doesn't appear to have a volume control applet in the list of installable panel applets. How can I arrange to have more than one volume control on the panel?
[17:55] <bohney> Anyone know how to fix this apt error?  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal... Thanks in advance.
[17:56] <IdleOne> bohney: reinstall it
[17:56] <bohney> it won't let me
[17:56] <bohney> even with -f
[17:56] <BluesKaj> bohney, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:57] <jab06y> splicereal, THANKS! it worked like a charm. Now how worried should i be that i need to use gksudo to get this guy to work
[17:57] <saerg> Cale: it's a notification icon now :(
[17:57] <Cale> saerg: that sucks.
[17:57] <bastidrazor> !compile > Zee
[17:57] <paissad-hp> hi all
[17:57] <paissad-hp> i would like to start automatically x11vnc on my system, , i just add "x11vnc --options" to /etc/rc.local  ???
[17:57] <bohney> BluesKaj: That command executed without error or output, but the issue remains
[17:57] <splicereal> gksudo disables the GTK windowing scheme, I think.  So, that's appropriate for what you're doing.
[17:57] <bastidrazor> paissad-hp: you need the full path
[17:58] <paissad-hp> bastidrazor, ok, the full path of the command ?
[17:58] <john316> on startup on my machine i have the option to start ubuntu start in safe mode or memory test and so on how do i by pass that so it just starts right up
[17:58] <paissad-hp> that"s all ?
[17:58] <Cale> Who makes these stupid decisions? "Nobody's going to need to control the volume for their speakers and headphones separately. Let's make that hard to do."
[17:58] <bastidrazor> paissad-hp: the full path of x11vnc
[17:58] <jcrawford> hey guys how do i extract a bin file on ubuntu?
[17:58] <jab06y> NICE! The help is much appreciated.
[17:58] <Zee> i have a file called .tgz which has a driver in it, how do i install it using terminal?
[17:58] <BluesKaj> bohney, reinsatll the package , then remove it
[17:58] <kappabuntu> Cale, let's not start
[17:58] <bohney> Additional Information: I no longer have the deb file for this package
[17:59] <paissad-hp> bastidrazor, but it will run as root, am i wrong ?
[17:59] <saerg> splicereal: gksudo'ed apps can only use system-wide installed themes
[17:59] <bastidrazor> jcrawford: normally a bin file is meant to be executed
[17:59] <jcrawford> i need to install this jdk-6u17-linux-x64-rpm.bin
[17:59] <splicereal> I see
[17:59] <andersbr> Has anyone here gotten an Ubuntu box to browse an apple network?
[17:59] <bastidrazor> paissad-hp: rc.local does execute as root, yes. how to get it to run as a user i don't know.
[17:59] <dassouki> how can i set the size of the ubuntu terminal from terminal
[17:59] <jcrawford> bastidrazor, how would I install this JDK then>?
[17:59] <bohney> BluesKaj: Thanks for the help, btw
[18:00] <bastidrazor> jcrawford: find a .deb file .. rpm's will not work on Ubuntu
[18:00] <xt28> paissad-hp, bastidrazor use su in rc.local if you want a command to run as a non-root user.
[18:00] <jcrawford> :(
[18:00] <Veinor> Zee: do you know how to use a terminal?
[18:00] <saerg> Zee: that depends on the contents of the tarball, isn't there a 'readme' or 'install' file in it?
[18:00] <bastidrazor> paissad-hp: as xt28 just said
[18:00] <jereme> anyone know how I can configure libnotify?  I'm assuming that libnotify is responsible for the growl-like notifications in 9.10
[18:00] <paissad-hp> xt28, bastidrazor , how to use su ? ....
[18:00] <xt28> jcrawford: if you can't find a deb file, there are ways to make an rpm work, but using a deb is much more painless.
[18:00] <Veinor> jereme: notify-osd isn't really configurable
[18:01] <kiiru> hey everyone, i was wondering if someone could help me with my dvd problem, i'm trying to play a dvd and it keeps saying "could not read the resource"
[18:01] <saerg> dassouki: wmctrl?
[18:01] <bthomson> how to restart usb in ubuntu karmic
[18:01] <Veinor> and by 'not really' I mean 'it isn't configurable at all'
[18:01] <jereme> Veinor, bummer because it's displaying in an odd location
[18:01] <bastidrazor> !alien | jcrawford
[18:01] <jereme> k
[18:01] <BluesKaj> bohney, sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[18:01] <bohney> attempting
[18:01] <Cale> In fact, how do I control anything other than the master volume setting? Am I really expected to use the console alsamixer?
[18:01] <xt28> paissad-hp: see man su. in this case: su <user> -c <command>
[18:02] <dassouki> saerg: well the my remote host has 66 or 80 character limit on it, i'd like to expand that since i have a widecreen
[18:02] <mahngiel> ?
[18:02] <Cale> Double clicking the volume control icon doesn't bring up a mixer anymore.
[18:02] <Valentina> How will I get rid of the cron issue that don't allow me to see temperature, it there is a cron problem at all?
[18:02] <bastidrazor> Cale: right click and preferences
[18:02] <bohney> BluesKaj: The issue remains.  Are you trying to get apt to re-pull that deb?
[18:02] <Cale> There's a sound preferences control panel, but it's useless, it seems.
[18:03] <Cale> It only has one volume control.
[18:03] <paissad-hp> xt28, bastidrazor thanks mates
[18:03] <Cale> (well, only one output volume)
[18:03] <john316> on startup on my machine i have the option to start ubuntu start in safe mode or memory test and so on how do i by pass that so it just starts right up
[18:03] <jereme> thx Veinor
[18:03] <saerg> dassouki: gnome-terminal --geometry for new windows
[18:03] <xt28> paissad-hp: sure. did this work? (try it manually before putting it in rc.local.)
[18:03] <slide> Does anyone know how to change the baud rate for a usb serial port?
[18:04] <dassouki> saerg: i don't have x/gnome on the remote
[18:04] <paissad-hp> xt28, ok, i try it manually, after i add it to rc.local and i restart !
[18:04] <erUSUL> slide: setserial ?
[18:04] <ScoutL-62> BY
[18:04] <ScoutL-62> Goodby
[18:04] <ScoutL-62> Goodbye
[18:04] <ScoutL-62> bye
[18:04] <tecnetbrasil> hei
[18:05] <ScoutL-62> Can someone please kick me from this chan?
[18:05] <xt28> john316: research grub configuration (you probably want to reduce the timeout.)
[18:05] <ScoutL-62> plz?
[18:05] <tecnetbrasil> oi
[18:05] <craigbass1976> ScoutL-62, just close the tab
[18:05] <bastidrazor> ScoutL-62: /exit or /quit
[18:05] <john316> thanks
[18:05] <ScoutL-62> ok
[18:05] <saerg> dassouki: i think i don't understand your use-case here
[18:05] <ScoutL-62> QWIT Unknown command
[18:06] <xt28> paissad-hp: i'd try it before restarting...
[18:06] <mahngiel> try "Quit"
[18:06] <vuf> hi, how do I disable the password prompt when switching between users (except the initial login)? it has re-appeared automatically in ubuntu 9.10
[18:06] <BluesKaj> john316, look in /etc/default/grub as root and change the timeout to 1 or 2 secs
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> ScoutL-62:  proper spelling helps
[18:06] <Cale> Someone else must have had this problem. I can't imagine that I'm the only one who cares about having control over more than one output volume.
[18:06] <ScoutL-62> "Quit"
[18:06] <ScoutL-62> raah
[18:06] <dassouki> saerg: sorry about that, i have a remote server running ubuntu 9.04 .. when I ssh into it, my end of line is at about 66 characters, and instead of it generating a new line, it overwrites the same line it's on
[18:06] <mahngiel> sudo m ScoutL-62
[18:06] <paissad-hp> xt28, don't i need to restart to test if the rc.local start or not the program ?
[18:06] <ScoutL-62> ?
[18:06] <xt28> ScoutL-62: no quotes, just /QUIT
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> ScoutL-62:  irc basics --> /quit is a command
[18:07] <ScoutL-62> try
[18:07] <my_haz> can 9.04 be upgraded to 9.10?
[18:07] <vuf> my_haz, yes
[18:07] <fosco__> my_haz, yes, use update-manager
[18:07] <saerg> dassouki: i dunno, gtg now, sorry
[18:07] <ScoutL-62> QUIT Unknown command
[18:07] <my_haz> vuf: fosco__ thanks
[18:07] <mahngiel> ./quit
[18:07] <BluesKaj> my_haz, yes , or in the terminal , sudo do-release-upgrade
[18:08] <my_haz> mahngiel: you need the absolute path ;)
[18:08] <xt28> paissad-hp: yes, but i would try if the command works first.
[18:08] <spwelton> haha that got it
[18:08] <mahngiel> my_haz: :)
[18:08] <xt28> finally.
[18:08] <paissad-hp> xt28, oh, i've tested it already " su <user> -c <command>" and it does work
[18:08] <GJLenon> Can someone help me with setting permissions?
[18:09] <craigbass1976> if I install 8.04 server, am I going to be able to just upgrade to the next LTS version of ubuntu?  I heard there's a hitch going to the K distro when doing the regular "hop through the versions" method of upgrade
[18:09] <nijtram1> Anyone wanna talk on #english
[18:09] <xt28> paissad-hp: oh, okay. we misunderstood each other. so, go ahead, you should be fine!
[18:09] <epinky> GJLenon: chmod ?
[18:09] <xt28> GJLenon: just ask your question
[18:10] <GJLenon> When I use WINE to access World of Warcraft, something is locking the WoW sub-directory and removing my permissions.  I can easily go in and re-apply premissions, but every time I load the game I am locked out again.  Any idea what is happening?
[18:10] <vMCubun> im a total noob, i need a GUI'd firewall that can be setup as i use the internet, so it learns from allow/blocks that i do ..any sugggetions?
[18:10] <thijs> Hi, i got a question about 32bit virtual machine linux servers
[18:11] <nijtram1> Anyone wanna talk on #english
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> vMCubun:  why do you think you need a firewall?
[18:11] <GJLenon> I'm not too bad at fiddling with things, but I have no idea what would be removing permissions from the sub-directory.  If you could point me in the right direction, I'll fiddle. :P
[18:11] <xt28> vMCubun: ubuntu usually doesn't open too many ports anyway...
[18:12] <rosebj> GJLenon, what do they change from/to?
[18:12] <Xcell> vMCubun-  zone labs does that for windoze.. no need for one in conventional Ubuntu
[18:12] <xt28> vMCubun: so yeah, welcome to linux!
[18:12] <fcuk112> GJLenon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8286898
[18:13] <llutz> Xcell: nobody needs stuff like zonelabs except those who sell it
[18:13] <Xcell> zonelabs was bought out 4 yrs ago.. its garbage now.
[18:13] <nookie^> hi, my friend upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10. Now when he tries to shutdown ubuntu the computer doesnt shut down.. i mean it starts to shut down but then it hangs.. any suggestions?
[18:13] <vMCubun> i am connected to the internet now, how do i update etc? i have chagned software sources to autoupdate n stuff, but how do i know if its done it or not?
[18:13] <GJLenon> fcuk112:  Damn, thanks. :)  That wasn't there an hour ago when I looked. :)
[18:14] <kappabuntu> I use sygate firewall on my winxp machines
[18:14] <fosco__> vMCubun, if you see no error it is ok
[18:14] <vMCubun> i would like to double check though
[18:14] <jab06y> While I'm here, im using intrepid because of the hardware support out of the box with my videocard(ati). I was looking at moving to hardy because of the long term software support. Any thoughts?
[18:14] <vMCubun> none of my sudo apt-get install gufw or selinux is working either
[18:14] <vMCubun> it says package not found
[18:14] <thiscomputer> i upgraded from 904 jaunty to 910 kermic now totem which played dvd's seems to skip throuh the dvd movies ... as before i went to the area listing help for livdvdcss any ideas
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> vMCubun:  You might want to learn some more linux basics befor messing with selinux
[18:15] <fosco__> vMCubun, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dust-upgrade && sudo aptitude install gufw (but mostly sure you do not need a firewall)
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> !info gufw
[18:16] <vMCubun> i need my computer to be super secure
[18:16] <epinky> :)
[18:16] <kappabuntu> any idea why 2.6.31 kernel is sending me to a maintenance shell instead of booting properly?? 2.6.28 works fine :(
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> vMCubun:  learn how linux works.. and realize it proberly allready is.
[18:16] <llutz> vMCubun: again: how about learning some basics about security first and after that, thinking about software to realize it?
[18:17] <davdm2010> could use some suggestions, not sure if this is the right place. When I type my routers IP, I get my Apache web page. Thoughts?
[18:17] <Dr_Willis> davdm2010:  which ip? local lan ip.. or wan ip?
[18:18] <davdm2010> Dr: local IP.
[18:18] <vMCubun> is gufw a pretty easy to use gui ? i heard firewall was the most popular one but i could get it working when i tried installing it from applications --> ubuntu software centre
[18:18] <davdm2010> Dr: From the host computer, not from other computers.
[18:18] <mklich> \leave
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> !firewall
[18:18] <cyrus_mc> anyone here use cryptsetup on Karmic? I have setup that up and during boot it asks for my pasphrase. Problem is, it only gives me like 5 seconds to type it and then it continues to boot up
[18:19] <cyrus_mc> anyone know how to overcome this
[18:19] <mahngiel> lol that sucks
[18:19] <thiscomputer> ps ... all other media plays fine ....just dvd play is now skiping since upgrade
[18:19] <xt28> davdm2010: check /etc/hosts
[18:19] <mahngiel> type faster cyrus
[18:19] <cyrus_mc> mahngiel: haha..
[18:19] <cyrus_mc> anyone with a real solution
[18:19] <davdm2010> xt28: OK
[18:19] <craigbass1976> vMCubun, isn't there a firestarter program?  GUI frontend to iptables I think
[18:20] <vMCubun> can i u ufw and firestarter?
[18:20] <Cale> oh, great, and the sound settings panel doesn't work at all without pulseaudio anymore.
[18:20] <vMCubun> why doesn't firestarter even install? gufw seems a little too crude and too dependent on knowing rules
[18:20] <vMCubun> why is it in gufw thre is NO rules?
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> vMCubun:  they are all front ends to the iptables commands
[18:20] <epinky> vMCubun: my two cents go for Shorewall
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> vMCubun:  because4 theres no default rules...
[18:20] <vMCubun> not even tings like "block all incoming"?
[18:20] <rictec> IPCop
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> vMCubun:  theres no need.. this is not windows
[18:20] <llutz> vMCubun: all those stuff is pointless if you don't know what it does/how it works. it will not increase security for you
[18:21] <vMCubun> i dont ened to worry about people on my computer doing anything dodgy, ill be the only oen using it
[18:21] <vMCubun> but stopping people accessing form outside is paramount
[18:21] <Cale> Is the goal of Ubuntu to start out great and get successively more ridiculously broken with each new iteration in order to drive its users into depression? ;)
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> vMCubun:  dont install any services you dont need... done...
[18:21] <spwelton> by default Ubuntu has NO open ports, so a firewall is extraneous IMO unless you're running some services exposed to the internet
[18:22] <aditya_> hi guys
[18:22] <craigbass1976> vMCubun, right.  If you're not running any services (servers like http, mysql, dat-tee-dah) then you don't need a firewall.  You're going to have to punch holes in it anyway to be able to ssh into it.  I wouldn't bother, were I oyu.
[18:22] <davdm2010> xt28: I don't see any mention of my router ip. I just have local 127... and my host ip address.
[18:22] <aditya_> I am trying to install compiz plugin -- ghost
[18:22] <zmija> hi need help with usb ata disk - anyone help me ?
[18:22] <vMCubun> ive enabled it, but its not doing anything right now anyway coz theres on rules right?
[18:23]  * craigbass1976 pounds head on desk
[18:23] <JohnMcDoe> !grub
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> vMCubun:  no rules = its not really enabled.. its just showing a gui
[18:23] <aditya_> I did : git clone git://anongit.compiz-fusion.org/users/rcxdude/ghost
[18:23] <xt28> davdm2010: does the route command return anything that looks wrong?
[18:23] <aditya_> But I didn't get any Makefile
[18:23] <Schattenwache> Hey Guys
[18:23] <vMCubun> i mean jus tincase i intall a porgram tha topens a port
[18:24] <vMCubun> wine wouldn't would it ? or any programs on wine ?
[18:24] <craigbass1976> Schattenwache, hey
[18:24] <mahngiel> anybody know how to fix: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[18:24] <Schattenwache> I have a little Question can I ask or do I have to wait ps: sorry for my bad english :/
[18:24] <mahngiel> ask away schatt
[18:24] <fosco__> !ask
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> vMCubun:  you are being paranoid.. in theory if you did things that way - you wouldent be able to do much. Linux wull not pop up a dialalog saying 'allow this app to access the internet' like windows does.. the program if blocked just wont work right.
[18:25] <davdm2010> xt28: One are that looks strange id the ff02::ip-6-mcastprefix and a few others
[18:25] <craigbass1976> Schattenwache, fire when ready
[18:25] <vMCubun> how do i know if my ubuntu is up to date or not?
[18:25] <epinky> !ask | Schattenwache
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> vMCubun:  read up on firewalling/iptables and learn what it can do and how to lck things  down
[18:25] <Schattenwache> xD okay thank you so I try to explain my Problem
[18:25] <fosco__> vMCubun, linux is a very secure kernel, and ubuntu is secure also, don't be so paranoid, you do not need a firewall
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> vMCubun:  do 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' is one way
[18:26] <Zee> I have an error message saying desktop effect could not be enabled, can anyone help?
[18:26] <xt28> !paste | davdm2010
[18:26] <iceroot> vMCubun: use a normal ubuntu-installation and keep it up to date. that is safe enough
[18:26] <xt28> davdm2010: can you paste the output of route?
[18:27] <kappabuntu> This is the exact problem that I have http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8156875
[18:27] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[18:27] <Zee> I have an error message saying desktop effect could not be enabled my video card info is 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 [Chrome 9 HC] (rev 01
[18:27] <kappabuntu> but I'm on dual xeons, not amd64, any changes that I should avoid to fstab?
[18:27] <vMCubun> Dr_Willis that seems to be doing a whole bunch of stuff ...why didn't it do it automatically?
[18:27] <Mr_Danne_123> Hello! How do I open a ".desktop" file from the terminal
[18:27] <vMCubun> how do i automatically get all security updates and such?
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> vMCubun:  it checks once a day.  and nags you
[18:27] <thiscomputer> in case my question was missed since upgrading from jaunty 904 to kermic 910 dvd's and only dvd's seem to skip through after hiting play ...they show promis of playing well any ideas as to how this can be corrected
[18:27] <iceroot> kappabuntu: xeon = amd64
[18:28] <vMCubun> how do i ensure its done it ? id like some confirmation things are up to date n stuff..
[18:28] <Zee> I have an error saying desktop effect could not be enabled?
[18:28] <davdm2010> xt28:http://paste.ubuntu.com/315270/
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> vMCubun:  when it says  theres updates.. then update..
[18:28] <epinky> kappabuntu: it says [Solved]
[18:28] <iceroot> vMCubun: use apticron
[18:28] <Mr_Danne_123> sudo apt-get update + sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:28] <iceroot> vMCubun: its checking for updates and send a mail if found some
[18:28] <vMCubun> does that update AND install updates or something?
[18:28] <kappabuntu> epinky, yeah I know, but I don't want to touch my fstab since I really don't know how to edit the darn thing
[18:28] <iceroot> vMCubun: also get in the security mailings-lists
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> !apt | vMCubun
[18:28] <Zee> I have an error message saying desktop effect could not be enabled could anyone help?
[18:28] <kappabuntu> I don't have a computer if this on fails to boot :(
[18:28] <Mr_Danne_123> update and upgrade
[18:29] <GJLenon> How do I run multiple commands from a single line in a terminal, just put a space between the two commands?
[18:29] <Mr_Danne_123> Hello! How do I open a ".desktop" file from the terminal
[18:29] <iceroot> GJLenon: ;
[18:29] <suleman> plz do anybody know a hotmail messanger where i can view my frens' webcam?
[18:29] <GJLenon> Solid, thanks. :)
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> GJLenon:  bash basics --> ; or &&
[18:29] <mmmiiikkkeee> is it rude to ask the same question in 2 IRC rooms if one room is slow to respond(or not responding at all)? is it better to ask on a mailing list?
[18:29] <fosco__> GJLenon, put an ";" between commands
[18:29] <vMCubun> why didn't it nag me to update and upgrade as soon as i connected to the net for the firts time?
[18:29] <messiah> hello; i have get a laptop's hard disk with Vista, and i want to use it for transfering files from this linux computer to my macbook, so i guess the best option is HFS+; but gparted doesn't allow me to do that
[18:29] <Mr_Danne_123> Hello! How do I open a ".desktop" file from the terminal
[18:29] <suleman> plz do anybody know a hotmail messanger where i can view my frens' webcam?
[18:29] <epinky> kappabuntu: then we will never know if you can solve it, make a backup of fstab and try
[18:30] <rictec> Mr_Danne_123, as any other file
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> vMCubun:  it checks once  a day normally, and I have seen it nag me on a new install. its just a matter of the time of day
[18:30] <iceroot> vMCubun: write a script for ifup thats doing the check
[18:30] <fosco__> suleman, amsn and others
[18:30] <mahngiel> Mr_Danne_123: it's no different. only hidden
[18:30] <ReL1K> anyone using nvidia 230m graphics card in 9.10?
[18:30] <suleman> fosco__, thanks
[18:30] <Mr_Danne_123> and how is that rictec?
[18:30] <iceroot> !anyone | ReL1K
[18:30] <xt28> davdm2010: that's the hosts file, isn't it?
[18:30] <Zee> My video card is not working properly its called 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 [Chrome 9 HC] (rev 01 could anyone care to help?
[18:30] <davdm2010> yes
[18:30] <ReL1K> anyone using nvidia 230m graphics card in 9.10?
[18:31] <ReL1K> i can do it a couple more times too
[18:31] <xt28> davdm2010: can you paste the output of route?
[18:31] <vMCubun> is there nothing graphical in ubuntu which just says "security updates up to date etc?"?
[18:31] <iceroot> !repeat | ReL1K
[18:31] <ReL1K> anyone using nvidia 230m graphics card in 9.10?
[18:31] <duffydack> messiah, you probably have to install hfsutils hfsprogs
[18:31] <ReL1K> i got a couple more up my sleeve
[18:31] <davdm2010> let me try. What command would that be?
[18:31] <iceroot> vMCubun: sure, the update-manager
[18:31] <vMCubun> where is the udpate manager? in software sources?
[18:31] <Schattenwache> I have one hd in my Laptop, on this i have a lot of partitions, 1. 40GB [ Vista primary Partition] || 2. 20GB [for Ubuntu / (root)] || 3. 2GB [for Ubuntu SWAP] || 4. 10GB [for Ubuntu /home]  || 5. 30GB [for Vista Data Space]  || 6. 70GB [for Vista Data Space]  || 7. 80GB [for Vista Data Space]... I have allready installed both Systems and don't give any mount points for my Vista Data Space, because I wan't to get the 4 part
[18:31] <mahngiel> where can i re-download the ubuntu kernel
[18:31] <messiah> duffydack, 2 packages?
[18:31] <trism> vMCubun: System/Administration/Update Manager
[18:31] <iceroot> !who | vMCubun
[18:31] <zmija> ok maybe this way :) ive connected hitachi traveldata 60GB ATA disk to USB. Now i can find it @ lsusb -> Bus 001 Device 012: ID 058f:6391 Alcor Micro Corp. dmesg return some infothat high speed usb device connected (sdb) NOW when ive tried to do fdisk /dev/sdb - no device found / ive done  cat /proc/diskstats it displayed -> 8      16 sdb 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 . Ive tried many software but disk couldn't be found . Wat can i do more ?
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> i got an icon for it by default at the top right vMCubun  it will show up when ya got updates
[18:32] <Schattenwache> "Places" in the upper Panel the four windows partitions how can i make them invisible
[18:32] <iceroot> vMCubun: on the right top corner of your screen
[18:32] <duffydack> messiah, just try hfsutils it will no doubt install whatever else it needs.
[18:32] <vMCubun> does update amnager include all the security updates n stuff aswell?
[18:32] <iceroot> vMCubun: yes!
[18:32] <Mr_Danne_123> Hello! How do I open a ".desktop" file from the terminal?
[18:32] <thiscomputer> since upgrading from 904 to 910 dvds skip after hiting play any ideas as to how this can be corrected
[18:32] <mmmiiikkkeee> hi, I am trying to setup DebootstrapChroot acording to the wiki page, but it seems that some thing is messed up with my chroot's home directory.  if i type cd it get: "bash: cd: /home/mike: No such file or directory". why does root not cd to /root?
[18:32] <schannall> Mr_Danne_123: nano expamle.desktop
[18:32] <vMCubun> does sudo apt-get update + sudo apt-get upgrade do the same thing as the update manager gui?
[18:32] <davdm2010> xt28: http://paste.ubuntu.com/315275/
[18:32] <Mr_Danne_123> Hello! How do I open a ".desktop" file from the terminal
[18:33] <iceroot> vMCubun: please just it at yur own and you will see its all safe
[18:33] <andersbr> To anyone with a mixed apple/ubuntu network: what do you use to browse public mac shares, and did you need to do anything special to get it working?
[18:33] <Mr_Danne_123> But I want to run the file
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> Mr_Danne_123:  you mean RUN or edit?
[18:33] <ReL1K> iceroot: having mysql and ftp externally exposed probably isn't a good idea
[18:33] <Mr_Danne_123> run
[18:33] <juannicolas> Hi, I need some help. I have Ubuntu 9.10 and I need to install perl 5.6.1 for a software and when trying to make depend i got this error: http://pastebin.com/d8c8003b
[18:33] <iceroot> vMCubun: use nrmal ubuntu settings and join the security-mailing-list, then you are up to date
[18:33] <danglyvn> hello
[18:33] <danglyvn> go
[18:33] <danglyvn> exit
[18:33] <rictec> Mr_Danne_123, its like any file
[18:33] <danglyvn> out
[18:33] <FloodBot3> danglyvn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:33] <danglyvn> no
[18:33] <schannall> Mr_Danne_123: you cant run .desktop files they just describe the shortcut to the programm
[18:33] <iceroot> ReL1K: feel free to hack
[18:33] <vMCubun> security mailing list ? wont tha tjust tell me to update the secuerity updates that are already in the "update amnager"?
[18:33] <Mr_Danne_123> damnit... I have used wine for a program
[18:33] <ReL1K> fortunately thats not me
[18:33] <schannall> Mr_Danne_123: open it, see what the line 'exec=' says and run that
[18:33] <xt28> davdm2010: so your router is 192.168.200.1?
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> i thought i saw some launch program that could run .desktop files.. but i cant find it now
[18:34] <iceroot> vMCubun: its telling you waht bugs are there and what are fixed
[18:34] <Mr_Danne_123> aaa
[18:34] <iceroot> !ot | ReL1K
[18:34] <davdm2010> xt28: yes
[18:34] <schannall> Mr_Danne_123: wine .wine/drive_c/example.exe
[18:34] <rictec> Mr_Danne_123, wi,e?
[18:34] <ReL1K> anyone using nvidia 230m graphics card in 9.10?
[18:34] <iceroot> ReL1K: stop that!!
[18:34] <kappabuntu> ok here we go... if I don't come back in 5mins, I'm a goner
[18:34] <vMCubun> does sudo apt-get update + sudo apt-get upgrade and the Update Manager download and install the same stuff?
[18:34] <ReL1K> stop doing bot commands bro
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> vMCubun:  yes
[18:34] <iceroot> vMCubun: yes
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> vMCubun:  all the apt programs get the same packages
[18:35] <thiscomputer> totem played dvds fine in 904 now in 910 they skip after selecting play what can i do?
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> !apt | vMCubun
[18:35] <iceroot> vMCubun: but update-manager is using dist-uppgrade
[18:35] <_Trullo> I can't use vdpau in my ubuntu 9.04 install, 190 drivers, anyone know how to fix this, I tried vlc, extremely crap visual, mplayer, won't start, xbmc, software works, vdpau and xbmc crashes
[18:35] <rictec> thiscomputer, try with mplayer or vlc
[18:35] <Xcell> vMCubun-  system / admin / update manager.. click check.. it usually explains (if) there are any.
[18:35] <coastal_> is there a reason why i can't connect to anything using ssh and telnet
[18:35] <iceroot> ReL1K: can you just ask a real question here? thanks
[18:35] <thiscomputer> rictec i did same or worse results
[18:35] <ReL1K> anyone using nvidia 230m graphics card in 9.10?  like that?
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> coastal_:  you got the ssh server installed?
[18:36] <xt28> davdm2010: maybe you have enabled port forwarding in your router, so it will just send network packets back to your computer?
[18:36] <mbeierl> ReL1K: apparently, no.
[18:36] <mahngiel> lol
[18:36] <ReL1K> mbeierl: ;-P
[18:36] <rictec> thiscomputer, and is ubuntu restrited installed?
[18:36] <coastal_> dr_willis i son't think so
[18:36] <Schattenwache> Is there any way, to fading out the windows partitions in the "Places" Menu of the Upper Panel in Ubuntu?! I have Vista as second system and with it 3 data spaces but i will stricly cutting the both systems of each other. So I wan't to fade out the partitionsof windows in ubuntu can someone help?
[18:36] <mahngiel> ReL1K: sorry mate, i'm running gofx5600
[18:36] <iceroot> ReL1K: are you trolling?
[18:36] <GJLenon> Why isn't this working?  wine "/home/biggie/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/World of Warcraft/Launcher.exe" ; chmod 755 "/home/biggie/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/World of Warcraft/" -R
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> coastal_:  you need ssh server installed on the servers you want to ssh into :)
[18:37] <ReL1K> iceroot: do you have a girlfriend?
[18:37] <iceroot> ReL1K: can you post a question with your problem? is it so hard?
[18:37] <Xcell> lol
[18:37] <iceroot> !ops | ReL1K
[18:37] <thiscomputer> rictec yes ristricted is installed
[18:37] <ReL1K> ruh roh!
[18:37] <davdm2010> xt28: I do have port forwarding enabled. So, you think it might be in that area?
[18:37] <coastal_> dr_willis why can't i telnet  then
[18:37] <rictec> thiscomputer, you have to check the player log for any clues
[18:37] <dAlfa89_> ReL1K evolves into Scooby Doo!
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> coastal_:  best thing to do with telnet is forget all about it . and learn to use ssh
[18:37] <xt28> davdm2010: yes.
[18:38] <ReL1K> legit question and bug, would like to see if its reproducible in different hardware platforms as i have recompiled my kernel 7 different times, instead of being helpful iceroot you are belligerent
[18:38] <Xcell> 2funny
[18:38] <coastal_> dr_willis how do i install the servers
[18:38] <thiscomputer> ricetec how do i check player log
[18:38] <davdm2010> xt28: Thanks at least that narrows my search and fix.
[18:38] <coordinador> hi
[18:38] <coordinador> i have a problem with sound
[18:38] <Schattenwache> mh
[18:38] <Scala> Where is the option to choose which monitor the taskbar shows up on?
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> coordinador:  fire up package manager look for sshd. i forget the package name
[18:38] <messiah> duffydack, it only allows me to format to hfs not hfs+
[18:38] <mahngiel> ReL1K: yes but you keep asking about your VGA card, which nobody else has
[18:38] <coordinador> Dr_Willis, what?
[18:38] <messiah> duffydack, i have installed hfsutils
[18:38] <ReL1K> mahngiel: i asked twice within a 2 hour period
[18:38] <iceroot> ReL1K: post your problem, with erros. you are the whole time asking the same (stupid) question "aynone..."
[18:39] <ReL1K> the rest came after iceroot became a tool
[18:39] <LjL> !offtopic
[18:39] <mahngiel> Scala: Settings, Pref, display
[18:39] <xt28> davdm2010: then again, if you can't access your router's web interface, because it sends everything back to you, your router manufacturer screwed up...
[18:39] <duffydack> messiah, oh I dont know anything about hfs/hfs+ I assumed it was the same thing.
[18:39] <LjL> ReL1K: no, you didn't. please check your attitude.
[18:39] <rictec> thiscomputer, check on /var/log
[18:39] <kappabuntu> nope. looks like that didn't work
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> he left befor i could anser  heh and miss nickcomplete
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> :)
[18:39] <LjL> ReL1K: you've been told before to not repeat your question often. please heed that.
[18:39] <vMCubun> just to confirm without ahving to read a whole manual, does sudo apt-get update + sudo apt-get upgrade get AND install the latest updates?
[18:39] <Schattenwache> nobody can help me i think hum or my english is to bad omg^^
[18:39] <ReL1K> LjL thats a negatory bro, this is the first
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> vMCubun:  yes.,
[18:39] <Zee> can anyone help me with my video card problem~?
[18:39] <thiscomputer> rictec i recall having three totems in 904 and the one that worked was xine now only one totem could this be an issue
[18:39] <rictec> thiscomputer, do you have a real error?
[18:39] <ReL1K> i came in here yesterday for the first time in probably a year
[18:39] <mahngiel> ReL1K: this is a helpful forum of people trying to help each other. we are TRYING to help you, but you will not allow us to. work with us mate
[18:40] <epinky> ReL1K: take it easy man
[18:40] <Zee> my video card info "Section "Device"
[18:40] <Zee> Identifier "Configured Video Device"
[18:40] <Zee> Option "PanelSize" "1024x600"
[18:40] <Zee> EndSection
[18:40] <Zee> "
[18:40] <FloodBot3> Zee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:40] <ReL1K> ive asked two questions, one regarding alsa, other regarding 230M
[18:40] <trism> vMCubun: yes
[18:40] <coastal_> dr_willis how to install the servers
[18:40] <rictec> thiscomputer, try re-install xine and gstreamer
[18:40] <Zee> whoops
[18:40] <trism> coastal_: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[18:40] <LjL> ReL1K: you asked "anyone using nvidia 230m graphics card in 9.10?" at least six times.
[18:40] <ReL1K> im cool, sorry to sound stand-off-ish, just curious if anyone has run into the same issue no big deal
[18:40] <freaky[t]> hi all. is there a way to recover deleted files on a ext3 volume?
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> coastal_:  fire up the package manager and search/install them sshd is for ssh
[18:40] <LjL> !recover | freaky[t]
[18:40] <mgv1> can anyone help me to try to fix non working microphone? boost it maybe?
[18:40] <MenZa> freaky[t]: are you on that system right now?
[18:40] <ReL1K> LjL in the past 5 minutes yes, thats after iceroot was being rough
[18:41] <JerVA> freaky[t], If you have formatted the partition
[18:41] <mahngiel> ReL1K: i only had minimal VGA probs until i installed the prop. drivers. #173 tbh
[18:41] <JerVA> then no.
[18:41] <Schattenwache> Is there any way, to fading out the windows partitions in the "Places" Menu of the Upper Panel in Ubuntu?! I have Vista as second system and with it 3 data spaces but i will stricly cutting the both systems of each other. So I wan't to fade out the partitionsof windows in ubuntu can someone help?
[18:41] <thiscomputer> thanx ricetec ill try these two ideas
[18:41] <suleman> hello do any body have an alternative to yahoo messangr where i can view my frens webcam
[18:41] <iceroot> ReL1K: again, stop trolling please. thank you
[18:41] <messiah> Dr_Willis, my gparted doesn't allow me to format in hfs+ just hfs, i have installed hfsutils
[18:41] <JerVA> suleman, you can use empathy or pidgin IM
[18:41] <SnakDoc> is there a program that does the same as access for linux ?
[18:41] <suleman> JerVA, can u view cam on pidgin
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> messiah:  no idea. I never use hfs.
[18:42] <BluesKaj> Schattenwache, fade out ?
[18:42] <iceroot> SnakDoc: openoffice
[18:42] <erUSUL> SnakDoc: openoffice has a DB program
[18:42] <Schattenwache> Mh omg my english is so bad let me explain it in two steps
[18:42] <duffydack> messiah, did it install hfsprogs?
[18:42] <JerVA> suleman - There is one program that you can use webcam - Skype.
[18:42] <mahngiel> mbeierl: can you tell me how to get that kernel again?
[18:42] <messiah> duffydack,  no lol
[18:42] <SnakDoc> iceroot: i haven't seen it i did see where you could backed to mysql and all just never seen one could create acess files like they do docs
[18:42] <rictec> SnakDoc, base from openoffice
[18:43] <JohnMcDoe> JerVa, is Skype compatible with yahoo messenger?
[18:43] <suleman> JerVA, skype isnt yahoo messnager
[18:43] <duffydack> messiah, try it... I dont know if it can even do it, Ive never used hfs+
[18:43] <JerVA> I know it isn't yahoo messanger
[18:43] <BluesKaj> Schattenwache, do you mean remove ?
[18:43] <mahngiel> mbeierl: nvm. got it
[18:43] <mbeierl> mahngiel: it was through adding the PPA for tux on ice.  although I just went through it and am having problems with getting toi to take over resume now, so I'd hold off a bit
[18:43] <ReL1K> mahngiel: im not exactly sure what the issue is, on 230M on 9.10 both 32 and 64 bit, nvidia drivers work out of the box fine, even compiled from source, looks crisp, everything works, when hibernate or restarting gdm or dropping to console, becomes super distorted and flaky, recompiled kernel to force vesafb thinking it was a framebuffer issue, thought it mighta been a grub2 one also, but...
[18:43] <JerVA> but it does have webcam program
[18:43] <ReL1K> ...tried it on 9.04
[18:43] <Schattenwache> I have 4 Vista partitions [ 1 primary partition with system and 3 data partitions with my files] then i have 3 ubuntu partitions [1 for root / 1 for /home and 1 for the swap] you understand what i mean?
[18:43] <duffydack> messiah, if all else fails, google it, if its doable, it`ll be up there
[18:43] <mbeierl> mahngiel: it won't hurt anything to grab it, thought
[18:43] <ReL1K> and LjL do you see what im dealing with on iceroot?
[18:43] <suleman> i need a yahoo messanger wid web cam facility
[18:43] <messiah> duffydack, what is doable?
[18:43] <rictec> Schattenwache, remove them befoure its too late
[18:43] <MenZa> ReL1K, iceroot: Let's all just play nice. :)
[18:43] <duffydack> messiah, "possible"
[18:44] <iceroot> ReL1K: stop that please....
[18:44] <epinky> ReL1K: have your tried this? http://www.sizzledcore.com/2009/11/02/nvidia-graphics-drivers-19042-for-ubuntu-910/
[18:44] <Schattenwache> then when I run Ubuntu, I can see the 4 NTFS Partitions  in the Menu near to the Software Menu in the Upper Panel there where you can mount them you know which Menu I mean?
[18:44] <mahngiel> mbeierl: only problem is it wouldn't update because of lack of key
[18:44] <Jetsetlemming> Could somebody help me? I installed Ubuntu for the first time yesterday, and now when I try to load it again it stops at a black screen right after beginning to load and freezes. Running off the live CD right now.
[18:44] <ReL1K> epinky: yepper, same issue
[18:44] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: It's worth running an fsck on it.
[18:44] <mahngiel> ReL1K: karmic is having suspend issues
[18:44] <Jetsetlemming> How do I do that?
[18:45] <messiah> duffydack, ah! do-able lol sorry
[18:45] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Could you paste the output of sudo fdisk -l (from within the live session) to a pastebin for me? :)
[18:45] <rictec> Schattenwache, yep its on local
[18:45] <ReL1K> mahngiel: not specific to hibernate, has to do with framebuffer is what im guessing
[18:45] <Schattenwache> And I wan't to remove them out of that Menue but not completely, I only want to seperate the both systems from each othet
[18:45] <iceroot> Jetsetlemming: press ctrl + alt + f1 and look for some errors
[18:45] <brad__> i still can't ssh to anything. Something not right
[18:45] <Schattenwache> So in Ubuntu I wan't to hide the 4 Partitions I won't see anything of them...
[18:45] <MenZa> iceroot: I think we should start with an fsck here.
[18:45] <juannicolas> .
[18:46] <mahngiel> ReL1K: i really don't know mate
[18:46] <Schattenwache> So how can I hide the 4 Partitions from the Menu and kill them out of the Ubuntu system^^
[18:46] <fcuk112> i have x-fi with 2.1 speakers plugged into the front-channels plug, the max volume is not as loud as i had hoped - anyone experienced this?
[18:46] <Aizen> anybody here who could help me with some Hydra installing problems on windows trough cgwin/
[18:46] <MenZa> !ot | Aizen
[18:46] <rictec> Schattenwache, you are confusing ....
[18:46] <mahngiel> mbeierl: i tried to reinstall it, and it says it is unchanged
[18:46] <mahngiel> yet, uname gives me ubuntu kernel
[18:46] <Jordan_U> Aizen: Try ##windows
[18:46] <coastal_> ssh server not working either
[18:46] <Aizen> 10x
[18:46] <Schattenwache> mh no I speak bad english^^
[18:46] <BluesKaj> Schattenwache, right click on the software menu icon  and choose "hide volume ntfs"
[18:46] <mbeierl> mahngiel: with the add-apt-repository?
[18:47] <Pici> Schattenwache: What is your native language?
[18:47] <Jordan_U> !de | Schattenwache
[18:47] <rictec> BluesKaj, is that what he wants?
[18:47] <mahngiel> mbeierl: yet, when i try to update, i get GPG error (yes w/ repos) with unverifiable key
[18:47] <Schattenwache> lol thx
[18:47] <suleman> hello do any body have an alternative to yahoo messangr where i can view my frens webcam
[18:47] <BluesKaj> rictec,ahh ,
[18:47] <BluesKaj> i think so
[18:47] <mbeierl> mahngiel: very odd.  I just tried it myself 1 hr ago, and it works here...
[18:47] <Aizen> it seems like the guys on windows channel r away :(
[18:47] <messiah> duffydack, did it ;) thank you very much
[18:47] <Pici> Aizen: Cygwin is offtopic for here, we cannot support it.
[18:48] <juannicolas> Hi, I need some help. I have Ubuntu 9.10 and I need to install perl 5.6.1 for a software and when trying to make depend i got this error: http://pastebin.com/d8c8003b
[18:48] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: How's it coming along?
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> Hmm cant empathy do web cams with googletalk>
[18:48] <rictec> BluesKaj, lol ok
[18:48] <Delano> When I run Empathy, it doesn't connect to any on my accounts... they're all just greyed out and I can't delete or enable them
[18:48] <Delano> Is that a common issue?
[18:48] <C00LFIRE> hay
[18:48] <gbear14275> is there a command I can run to determine the hdd interface of my computer.  I am trying to find a replacement hdd for this pcg-k23 laptop.  google has been mute on the hdd details
[18:48] <Jordan_U> Aizen: There is also #cygwin
[18:48] <MenZa> C00LFIRE: grass.
[18:48] <C00LFIRE> :)
[18:48] <mahngiel> mbeierl: Linux mahngiel-laptop 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:48] <Aizen> 10x
[18:48] <C00LFIRE> hay menzza#
[18:48] <Aizen> it just keeps giving 2 errors
[18:48] <JerVA> Delano, are you running 9.10?
[18:48] <Delano> Hello?
[18:48] <C00LFIRE> does anyone know how i can get to the german ubuntu irc? :)
[18:48] <gbear14275> lspci also doesn't work
[18:48] <mahngiel> Delano: hello :)
[18:48] <MenZa> C00LFIRE: /join #ubuntu-de
[18:48] <C00LFIRE> thx man :)
[18:49] <BluesKaj> rictec, I think by "fade out" , he meant remove icon
[18:49] <dAlfa89_> !de | C00LFIRE
[18:49] <MenZa> C00LFIRE: Dan sollst du in #ubuntu-de sein :)
[18:49] <MenZa> dann*
[18:49] <JerVA> !jp melik
[18:49] <JerVA> !jp | melik
[18:49] <mahngiel> mbeierl: upon apt update: W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[18:50] <JerVA> cool!
[18:50] <gbear14275> hdd identifcation command... anyone?
[18:50] <MenZa> mahngiel: sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring
[18:50] <suleman> hello do any body have an alternative to yahoo messangr where i can view my frens webcam
[18:50] <fosco__> gbear14275, try lshw
[18:50] <gbear14275> lshw
[18:50] <rictec> brb
[18:50] <high-rez> Ok, is it just me or is the launchpad karma system terribly broke?  I've been following a bug for a while, and people often update the status of the bug to fixed, then immediately back to in progress, and according to launch pad, updating the bug status earns these people karma for doing what is essentially a disservice.
[18:50] <Delano> JerVA, yes
[18:51] <legend2440> gbear14275: according to this its  got 60 GB enhanced-IDE hard drive    http://www.amazon.com/Sony-PCG-K23-Laptop-Pentium-Drive/dp/B00029ZV0S
[18:51] <okubax> suleman: try the new empathy
[18:51] <JerVA> Delano - okay. As it greyed out, you mean Empathy software itself frozen on you?
[18:51] <mbeierl> mahngiel: that's medibuntu which is complaining... don't know why that one's not good
[18:51] <gbear14275> thanks fosco__  ... ( man i hate touchpads)  legend2440:  does that mean ata100 or 133?
[18:51] <suleman> okubax, is its name new empathy
[18:51] <messiah> i want to use an external drive for copying files from my download ubuntu computer to my macbook to burn 4+gb files... which format would you advice me for the HD? hfs+? hfs? ext4?
[18:51] <mahngiel> i got the keys back, but i can't seem to get tux's kernel to stick
[18:52] <erUSUL> high-rez: you should maybe take that to #launchpad ? or file a bug against launchpad (gaining some karma in the process ;P)
[18:52] <legend2440> gbear14275: not sure...sorry
[18:52] <Zee> My graphics card is called via chrome 9 but its not working
[18:52] <tck9> when hotswapping scsi hdds, my system always seems to io lock.. any tips on doing smooth hotswaps?
[18:52] <high-rez> erUSUL: That's a good idea!  :)
[18:52] <MenZa> erUSUL: +1
[18:52] <Zee> could anyone help me out:?
[18:53] <high-rez> erUSUL: It just annoys the heck out of me, as it appears people mess with the bugs for no other reason than karma whoring.
[18:53] <babi> can anyone help me?
[18:53] <a-rishi> Which is the safest tool for re-partitioning disks on ubuntu 9.10??
[18:53] <fosco__> a-rishi, gparted maybe
[18:53] <JerVA> a-rishi - try using Gparted
[18:53] <okubax> Zee: what do you mean by it's not working ?
[18:53] <erUSUL> high-rez: probably true. Seen it myself
[18:53] <messiah> does ubuntu supports hfs+???
[18:54] <MenZa> !hfsutils | messiah
[18:54] <babi> I need configure my keaboard. may anyone help me?
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> !hfs
[18:54] <MenZa> !hfs | messiah
[18:54] <mahngiel> mbeierl:i got the keys back, but i can't seem to get tux's kernel to stick
[18:54] <MenZa> Dr_Willis: ^5
[18:54] <Zee> Okubax: I have an error message saying DEsktop effect could not be enabled
[18:54] <erUSUL> messiah: reading but ritten is not well supported
[18:54] <Delano> JerVA, no
[18:54] <messiah> MenZa, erUSUL  i have just installed hfsutils and hfsprogs, so i will support that formats, right?
[18:54] <MenZa> messiah: Correct.
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> Zee:  chrome/via video is rather low end.. and well.. dont work very well either :)
[18:55] <messiah> erUSUL, hum... so what format would you advice me? i want to transfer files from ubuntu to mac (4gb+)
[18:55] <erUSUL> messiah: you can format volumes with thaqt format. but the kernel driver for hfs(+) is not in good shape
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> messiah:  ask the mac peoples if theres ext2/ntfs features on mac?
[18:55] <erUSUL> messiah: already told you in #ubuntu-es ;P
[18:55] <JerVA> Delano, okay. You mean the software greyed out itself or you simply cannot type anything on Empathy?
[18:55] <okubax> Zee: that might be a compiz problem nd not a problem with your graphics card
[18:56] <Delano> JerVA, exactly as I said... the program is no hanging, but for some reason all my accounts are greyed out and not connecting
[18:56] <Zee> Dr_Willis: Someone posted a video on youtube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8osNBcu6ko and they got it working
[18:56] <Uruz> Random question: Does anyone else have problems with SCIM on the netbook remix?
[18:57] <Zee> okubax: what can i do
[18:57] <pure_hate> Does anyone have a 230M
[18:57] <pure_hate> I needz help
[18:57] <Jetsetlemming> How do I exit the command prompt screen on ctrl-alt-F1? I had to reboot to get back to the desktop
[18:57] <a-rishi> I have a 53 GB hard disk with the /home mounted on it. about 2 GB is used and I want to resize that partition to create another partition of 40 GB.... using Gparted I do not get the option of resizing when I right click on the partition. (wait do I need to boot from a Gparted live cd??? or is there a way to do it without booting from a CD)
[18:57] <Xcell> lol
[18:57] <jezi22> guys i reformatted my windows.. now i cannot see my ubuntu.. how can i see my ubuntu again?
[18:57] <fosco__> Jetsetlemming, exit ?
[18:57] <Uruz> Purge windows from your machine
[18:57] <MenZa> a-rishi: Just umount it. :)
[18:57] <DaZ> jezi22: recover grub
[18:57] <Jetsetlemming> I tried that, it went to another different command prompt
[18:57] <jezi22> how can i recover grub?
[18:57] <Jetsetlemming> And exit would just return to that point
[18:57] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Yeah; you should probably fsck the disk first, as I mentioned.
[18:58] <JerVA> Delano, did you update 9.10 recently?
[18:58] <fosco__> Jetsetlemming, so exit again
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> Jetsetlemming:  try all the alt-ctrl-f1 through f12 :)
[18:58] <DaZ> jezi22: just google it <:
[18:58] <Uruz> Yeah, go fsck yourself
[18:58] <Jetsetlemming> How do I run fsck?
[18:58] <Delano> Jeruvy, the program is responding... it's just that all my accounts are greyed out AND have red circles next to them
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> !fsck
[18:58] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: CTRL-ALT-F7 would've gotten you to back to the desktop
[18:58] <Jetsetlemming> Do I type that in that command prompt?
[18:58] <Jetsetlemming> thank you menza
[18:58] <jezi22> thanks mate
[18:58] <pure_hate> omg I'm in n00b hell
[18:58] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Right, start by giving me the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' -- run it in a terminal, and shove it in a pastebin.
[18:58] <Delano> JerVA, no, I'm running a fresh install of 9.10... empathy was working the first time I started it up and once or twice after that, but now... nothing
[18:59] <mbeierl> mahngiel: hm. what's your uname -a showing the kernel rev at right now?
[18:59] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: (I had a feeling you had gotten lost in the command line)
[18:59] <mahngiel> mbeierl: Linux mahngiel-laptop 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:59] <okubax> Zee: try to upgrade the drivers for your graphics card or downgrade if neccessary. PS: what graphics card u using ? intel? via?
[18:59] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Just put it in the terminal found in Applications → Accessories → Terminal
[18:59] <Jetsetlemming> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fsck -1
[18:59] <Jetsetlemming> fsck from util-linux-ng 2.16
[18:59] <Jetsetlemming> Am I not entering it right?
[18:59] <mbeierl> mahngiel: right... for some reason you're still at -14, but the TOI kernel is -15.
[19:00] <Zee> okubax: via
[19:00] <Dr_Willis>  Jetsetlemming  -l not -1
[19:00] <bastidrazor> Jetsetlemming: -l not -1
[19:00] <JerVA> Delano, you will possibly have to find and install pidgin.
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> as in LIST
[19:00] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: No, no, - 'sudo fdisk -l' that's *disk*, not *sck*
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> :)
[19:00] <JerVA> Empathy is possibly experiencing buggy issue - Delano
[19:00] <Zee> okubax: How do i do it?
[19:00] <MenZa> !pastebin | Jetsetlemming
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> talk about typos :)
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> heh
[19:00] <mahngiel> yep. i added repos tuxonice/ppa > updated > upgraded
[19:00] <Delano> JerVA, already done... I just wanted to give empathy a try... but, alas
[19:00] <mahngiel> mbeierl: yep. i added repos tuxonice/ppa > updated > upgraded
[19:00] <JerVA> Delano,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1314707&highlight=empathy+greyed
[19:01] <Jetsetlemming> http://paste.ubuntu.com/315300/
[19:01] <mbeierl> mahngiel: but it's not picking up the fact that the -15 kernel is avaiable.  you're still at -14 is what I'm noticing
[19:01] <mahngiel> mbeierl: i understand what you're saying. i'm just enumerating what i did
[19:01] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Try: sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[19:02] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Please let me know if it starts giving you any errors.
[19:02] <Jetsetlemming> e2fsck 1.41.9 (22-Aug-2009)
[19:02] <Jetsetlemming> /dev/sda1: clean, 165761/2342912 files, 2406935/9353838 blocks
[19:02] <Jetsetlemming> That's all that says
[19:02] <MenZa> Right, that's a good thing.
[19:02] <Evito> whats the command to create a directory on terminal
[19:02] <MenZa> Evito: mkdir
[19:03] <Evito> tried everything but that :)
[19:03] <Evito> thanks menza
[19:03] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Now we've ensured that the file system has good integrity.
[19:03] <mahngiel> mbeierl: under upgrade it says that no pkgs will be install, upgraded or removed
[19:03] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: You say it goes to a black screen when you boot. No errors? No prompt?
[19:03] <Jetsetlemming> Yeah. Right after it starts to boot, the last thing I see is the little flashing _ in the far topleft corner for about a second.
[19:04] <Jetsetlemming> When the LiveCD boot shows the mouse then ubuntu logo, for the hd installation I just get a blank screen.
[19:04] <Jetsetlemming> I left it run for ten minutes, but it never progressed.
[19:04] <mbeierl> mahngiel: it's like your mirror is still at -14 and so the metapackage for the kernel wants to keep you at -14...
[19:04] <mahngiel> mberierl: anything i can do, so i can try to alleviate this suspend issue?
[19:05] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: That's... worrying. Do you have another PC available? It'd be easier if we could troubleshoot this issue while you have access to it.
[19:05] <MenZa> Actually, Jetsetlemming
[19:05] <mahngiel> mbeierl: anything i can do, so i can try to alleviate this suspend issue? else i may as well go back to the package kernel
[19:05] <Annonymorse> hey
[19:05] <mahngiel> hey
[19:05] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: I should probably ask; did you verify the ISO image before you wrote it to a CD, and did you check it afterwards?
[19:05] <Jetsetlemming> No,
[19:05] <okubax> Zee: do u have this package installed - xserver-xorg-video-openchrome ?
[19:05] <Jetsetlemming> I was burning the disc in safe mode in windows
[19:05] <Annonymorse> anyone else experiencing EXTREME CLOSE UPS when they use their webcam in ubuntu?
[19:05] <mahngiel> md5sum is a good program
[19:05] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Right. You downloaded the 9.10 Desktop image, then you burned it at what speed?
[19:05] <Jetsetlemming> My windows was totally going to hell, wanted to be quick
[19:05] <Jetsetlemming> >_>
[19:05] <Jetsetlemming> 1x
[19:06] <mbeierl> mahngiel: well, you're not at the toi kernel right now anyway, so nothing to go back to.  But, sorry I don't know any workaround for suspend
[19:06] <Jetsetlemming> My dvd drive is old
[19:06] <Annonymorse> it works fine in Cheese, it fucks up in firefox
[19:06] <MenZa> Annonymorse: Mind the language there :)
[19:06] <bfdjsbfha> Ok, Hello all, I have a new problem, and I have absolutely no idea what to do. Currently, I'm on my wife's Mac. On my dell vostro 1520 however, I recently reformatted and put Ubuntu 9.10, and Windows 7 Professional. Windows first so tht it wouldn't overwrite grub
[19:06] <mahngiel> mbeierl: lol. well thanks. i was hoping this other kernel would do the trick. but i guess it never installed so it could write to my hd in the first place
[19:06] <bfdjsbfha> now, 5 days later, it says grub is loading" then the screen flashes and it restarts back to the dell bios loader
[19:06] <Delano> How can I remove some default apps included in Ubuntu 9.10? Like empathy? Software Centre won't allow me
[19:06] <sd32> !firefox
[19:07] <MenZa> Delano: sudo apt-get remove empathy should do it :)
[19:07] <bfdjsbfha> any ideas?
[19:07] <fosco__> Delano, sudo aptitude purge "program"
[19:07] <Delano> Thanks
[19:07] <mahngiel> Delano: use software center and click the installed tree
[19:07] <MenZa> Delano: But if you're absolutely mortified with the prospect of using the command line, you can use Synaptic to remove it.
[19:07] <Annonymorse> anyone else experiencing EXTREME CLOSE UPS when they use their webcam?
[19:07] <Delano> mahngiel, tried that
[19:07] <Jetsetlemming> If there's a problem with my disc, is it possible to download and burn another while in the live cd environment?
[19:07] <Jetsetlemming> Or will taking the disc out while burning to use the drive mess up everythign
[19:07] <Delano> MenZa, I thought so, but I wasn't sure Ubuntu might combust if I tried to take out an installed-by-default app
[19:07] <mahngiel> Jetsetlemming: did you let the disc do a self-check?
[19:08] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: It will likely mess everything up.
[19:08] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Well, it'll most likely freeze :)
[19:08] <aurelie> coucou ca va
[19:08] <mahngiel> Jetsetlemming: yes that will
[19:08] <MenZa> !fr | aurelie
[19:08] <bfdjsbfha> Does anyone have any idaes for my problem?
[19:08] <Zee> okubax:
[19:08] <Jetsetlemming> I ran it Live to see if it worked, and then went right to installation, which completed fine.
[19:08] <bastidrazor> Jetsetlemming: unless you have a 2nd drive you can not take out the liveCD and burn a disk
[19:08] <Zee> okubax: how do i install it?
[19:08] <nztal> i am thinking of getting a cricket 3g usb modem for karmic.  i am wondering, is 5GB a data used up easily, if say your connected to this channel and a couple others.
[19:08] <Jetsetlemming> I was in Ubuntu all day yesterday with no issues, installed pidgin and vlc and updated, browsed the internet
[19:08] <Jetsetlemming> It froze sometime last night and when I tried to reboot I just get that black screen
[19:08] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Hrm, so this install has worked previously.
[19:08] <bfdjsbfha> Hello?
[19:09] <a-rishi> I am not getting any option to resize partition in Gparted: The partition I am trying to resize has the /home folder mounted, has the 'boot' label, and I cannot unmount it as I get 'the device is busy'
[19:09] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Were you, by chance, in the middle of updating your install?
[19:09] <Jetsetlemming> No
[19:09] <Captain_Haddock> Zee: sudo apt-get install <package name>
[19:09] <Jetsetlemming> Just listening to music and using firefox
[19:09] <MenZa> a-rishi: In that case, use the livecd.
[19:09] <mahngiel> bfdjsbfha: i'm trying to figure out your question
[19:09] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Right. You get the GRUB menu on start up, right?
[19:09] <bfdjsbfha> ok thank you.
[19:09] <Jetsetlemming> No, it goes straight to ubuntu.
[19:09] <Delano> MenZa, I'm looking for a program that can track my internet usage and give me totals of my bandwidth consumption on a daily and monthly basis... any clues?
[19:09] <bfdjsbfha> I have no idae what to do, it wont even get to the point where I can choose an OS.
[19:09] <okubax> Zee: type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-openchrome  in terminal
[19:09] <Jetsetlemming> I installed it over windows since my windows installation was totalled by a virus, nothing left to keep.
[19:09] <a-rishi> Darn! That is going to take time... I don't have a blank CD and its midnight
[19:10] <Zee> okubax: yes i have installed it
[19:10] <Jetsetlemming> So there's no boot menu, it automatically tries ubuntu
[19:10] <a-rishi> MenZa: Thanks, hope it works
[19:10] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: You don't, at any point, get a menu? Or a prompt for a few seconds saying "Press ESC to view the GRUB boot menu" or similar?
[19:10] <Jetsetlemming> Not that I saw.
[19:10] <mahngiel> bfdjsbfha: what's installed on it now?
[19:10] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: I may be at a long shot here, but... booting an older kernel might be a possibility.
[19:10] <JohnMcDoe> exit
[19:10] <okubax> Zee: so its already installed ?
[19:11] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Assuming, of course, that you ran updates after installing the system.
[19:11] <Jetsetlemming> I did.
[19:11] <Zee> okubax: yes
[19:11] <Jetsetlemming> I let it update everything it wanted.
[19:11] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Right, let me just have a quick Google around. I'll be with you in a minute.
[19:11] <bthomson> how to restart usb in ubuntu karmic
[19:11] <Jetsetlemming> ok
[19:11] <bfdjsbfha> mahngiel, is it possible to do a pm? this is really hard to read
[19:11] <bfdjsbfha> im in the webchat thing i odnt know how to do it in this. and it has ubuntu 9.10 and windows 7 pro. dual boot
[19:11] <mahngiel> bfdjsbfha: look left in the window, i send you a pm
[19:12] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Go get a cup of coffee, catch up on your news or whatever in the meantime :)
[19:12] <Annonymorse> My cam is exhibiting strange behavior in firefox, but not in cheese. Here is a screencap: http://i34.tinypic.com/35hlrpc.png
[19:12] <Annonymorse> HELP
[19:12] <mahngiel> !help |Annonymorse
[19:12] <sd32> is firefox 3.5.5 coming out soon?
[19:12] <Jetsetlemming> I'll go yell at the guy who told me to try linux :P
[19:12] <Annonymorse> ok ok
[19:12] <bthomson> what commands to restart usb in ubuntu karmic?
[19:13] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Right, I have an idea. Can you mount your Ubuntu partition from the Live CD for me?
[19:13] <Jetsetlemming> How do I do that?
[19:13] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: It should be as simple as double-clicking it on the desktop.
[19:14] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: If not, it might be in Places
[19:14] <messiah> erUSUL, puedes pasarte por el -es un poco?
[19:14] <trijntje> bthomson, what do you mean with restarting usb?
[19:14] <Jetsetlemming> Ok, it was in places
[19:14] <Delano> MenZa, I'm looking for a program that can track my internet usage and give me totals of my bandwidth consumption on a daily and monthly basis... any clues?
[19:14] <Jetsetlemming> It's loaded
[19:14] <MenZa> Delano: None, sorry.
[19:14] <Schattenwache> So in the german Channel now one can help me, so i try it here again i have written something here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/315313/ ihope someone can understand my crap english^^
[19:14] <okubax> Zee: if that is the case then it seems that Via drivers supplied in ubuntu do not support compiz
[19:14] <Jetsetlemming> That's a whole lot of folders. Pretty alien to me compared to a normal C:\ directory >_>
[19:14] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Excellent. Could you navigate to /boot/grub/?
[19:15] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Well, you're not *supposed* to fiddle with it; we just have to :)
[19:15] <Jetsetlemming> Ok, I'm there
[19:15] <bthomson> trijntje: sometimes my mouse stopps working but the computer is ok
[19:15] <dassouki> i wish there was a way to organize my rhythmbox music by some form of online ratings
[19:15] <bthomson> need to restart usb i think
[19:15] <Zee> okubax: ok
[19:15] <Zee> thanks for ur helop anyways
[19:15] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Actually, go back. Find 'etc', then 'default'.
[19:15] <trijntje> bthomson, can you pull it out and plug it in again?
[19:15] <bthomson> yeh and plug in other mouse does not work either
[19:15] <okubax> Zee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=624045
[19:16] <bthomson> although it show up in lsusb
[19:16] <Jetsetlemming> Ok, now I'm there instead.
[19:16] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Open the file called 'grub' (right-click, open it with 'Text Editor')
[19:16] <trijntje> bthomson, plugging in a usb-stick?
[19:16] <bthomson> plug in another usb mouse
[19:16] <mgv1> how can i make ad block to work like in the past - blocking a lot of ads? - not it isnt
[19:16] <mbeierl> Schattenwache: are they listed in /etc/fstab?
[19:16] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: I'll need you to pastebin the first 10 or so lines of that file
[19:16] <Schattenwache> kP^^
[19:17] <Jetsetlemming> http://paste.ubuntu.com/315317/
[19:17] <Schattenwache> don't know, how can i look for that, I'm a ubuntu newcomer!
[19:17] <mbeierl> Schattenwache: go to terminal (Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal) and enter "cat /etc/fstab"
[19:17] <bthomson> or maybe some problem with x mouse support, idk
[19:18] <trijntje> !who | bthomson
[19:18] <gon3dion> question: Does the router know the packet's entire route through the Internet?
[19:18] <mbeierl> Schattenwache: do you see many entries or just the / and /home entries?
[19:18] <erUSUL> gon3dion: no
[19:18] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Right, I see it. The problem currently is that it doesn't display the menu at all; it sees no need to because you only have one system installed.
[19:18] <Captain_Haddock> gon3dion: no
[19:18] <trijntje> bthomson, what happens when you plug in a usb stick? does it get recoginsed/mounted etc?
[19:18] <gon3dion> thnx
[19:18] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: I just need to do a bit of research on how to actually add the information from that file to GRUB, hold on please.
[19:18] <bthomson> trijntje: yes can be viewed in lsusb
[19:19] <Jetsetlemming> Ok.
[19:19] <pticochon> can I remove frames from a wireshark file when it has gotten huge?
[19:19] <sd32> !kilk
[19:19] <_mc> greetings all does ubuntu have anything that is similar to an active domain in a windows setup? I'm not talking about SMB I'm talking about switching an entire company to ubuntu. I wonder how users will authenticate against a domain controller?
[19:19] <sd32> !klik
[19:19] <xisco> is there any channel for devs ?
[19:19] <Jackiz> yo dwag, i heard u like linux so i put a linux in ur linux so u can linux while u linux!
[19:20] <arand> Jackiz: take it offtopic
[19:20] <fcuk112> xisco: #ubuntu-devel
[19:20] <mike99> Is anyone having issues with Ubuntu 9.10 when opening folders it doesn't display all the content and just keeps on loading forever?
[19:20] <Cale> Let's try this again. :) I have an Audigy 2, which normally has a few dozen volume control settings that I'd ordinarily use to control the volume on my headphones and speakers separately. It only appears as a single device in the sound control panel and in pavucontrol, so I can only control the master volume setting.
[19:21] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Yet again, I'm only suggesting the more difficult options available. Reboot your system, and hold your SHIFT key throughout the ENTIRE boot process. You should see a menu. In this case, you'll see a number of different lines. These are your kernels. Each of them come with a 'normal' option, and a 'recovery' option. You want the *second* kernel down, without the recovery option, so most likely the third option available.
[19:21] <arand> xisco: or #ubuntu-motu for non-main dev.
[19:21] <mahngiel> make99: i haven't seen it
[19:21] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: I hope that made any sense.
[19:21] <Cale> How the heck am I expected to control the volume/mute for my speakers and headphones separately?
[19:21] <Delano> I'm looking for a program that can track my internet usage and give me totals of my bandwidth consumption on a daily and monthly basis... any clues?
[19:21] <Jetsetlemming> And what does that kernal do?
[19:21] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Hopefully, it'll work.
[19:21] <Jetsetlemming> So I should reboot and try that now?
[19:21] <mahngiel> Delano: doesn't your wifi card company have that for u?
[19:21] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: I honestly have no clue what the issue is, but I'm trying to eliminate a few variables here and there.
[19:22] <Jetsetlemming> Alright, brb.
[19:22] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Please do - if it doesn't work, come back. I'll be around for a while.
[19:22]  * MenZa has enough coffee to last him a few hours.
[19:22] <Delano> mahngiel, no... I'm in the third-world :op
[19:22] <Delano> mahngiel, even worse, I have a monthly download cap
[19:22]  * mahngiel laughs
[19:22] <seidos> _mc: i'm thinking about your problem, it's an interesting one.  i would think there would be something, but then i asked, "why is it necessary"?
[19:22] <Delano> mahngiel, if I go over, I pay extra
[19:23]  * seidos has some tea that he doesn't feel like drinking
[19:23] <mahngiel> Delano: i had that same problem with Verizon Wireless, except their usage was always off by a few days
[19:23] <JerVA> Delano, I hate caps.
[19:23]  * seidos is feeling under the weather
[19:23] <JerVA> I don't have caps on my ISP - Verizon FIOS never has restriction on using internet - No caps so it's nice.
[19:23] <MenZa> !ot
[19:23] <mahngiel> MenZa:started the emote conversation
[19:23] <mbeierl> _mc: there is NIS authentication (see yp/nis/unix domain) or there is Likewise Open....
[19:23] <Schattenwache> re
[19:24] <furuno> so, I've been playing with my desktop appearance and wonder if I can set up the maximum desktop area in Gnome (just like the one in openbox), anyone?
[19:24] <_mc> mbeierl, what is likewise open? a software product?
[19:24] <mahngiel> well. many thanks to all. i've learned and thought over some new topics today. y'all take care now, ya hear? lol
[19:24] <Schattenwache> mbeierl when i enter cat /etc/fstab there are only the three partitions listened of ubuntu /, /home and swap
[19:25] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: What's the news?
[19:25] <Jetsetlemming> Ok, I'm really confused now. Held Shift as soon as I saw the bios screen
[19:25] <Schattenwache> and the cdrom
[19:25] <Jetsetlemming> And no menu at all popped up. Instead, my ubuntu install properly loaded.
[19:25] <MenZa> wat.
[19:25]  * MenZa is decidedly very confused.
[19:25] <mbeierl> Schattenwache: sorry - it was a thought that maybe that was adding it... out of ideas for the momeny
[19:25] <mbeierl> moment
[19:26] <Jetsetlemming> Is there any sort of error log in ubuntu?
[19:26] <Jetsetlemming> Or boot log?
[19:26] <furuno> Jetsetlemming, yes
[19:26] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Type 'dmesg' in a terminal.
[19:26] <seidos> Jetsetlemming: /var/log
[19:26] <mbeierl> _mc: likewise is a unix AD authentication plugin and it's available through the repositories.
[19:26] <Grant__> can anyone recommand program where I can organise photos by location (using the geotag info already in the photos), or if there is a plugin that would allow f-spot to do this?
[19:26] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: There's also /var/log/syslog
[19:26] <furuno> Jetsetlemming, go to System > Admin > Log File Viewer
[19:26] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: But do what furuno says <_<
[19:26]  * MenZa is too old school to use them fancy new programs.
[19:26] <mbeierl> _mc: http://www.likewise.com/products/likewise_open/
[19:26] <jmg> ello people, i have a sound isseu with . Can anyone help?
[19:27] <furuno> !ask | jmg
[19:27] <Cale> jmg: heh, join the club
[19:27] <_mc> NIS requires static IP addresses, is there any other soluiton that does not use any MS technology or attempt to replicate MS technology? like SMB is a reverse engineer of MS' protocol
[19:27] <Jetsetlemming> got an idea which log would have info on what just happened?
[19:27] <Kan3> hi, I have ubuntu box, want to know if its possible to install windows on the box too
[19:27] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: syslog, if any
[19:27] <furuno> reasking my question : is there's anyway to set the maximum window size / desktop area in gnome (like in openbox) ?
[19:27] <magmarules> Guys anyone has run ubuntu in parallels ?
[19:27] <furuno> Kan3 : yes
[19:27] <_mc> it looks like likewise_open uses AD tech which is from MS, corect?
[19:27] <Kan3> its a remote box
[19:28] <Kan3> without using kvm
[19:28] <fcuk112> Grant__: have you tried using picasa?
[19:28] <Jetsetlemming> Boot has nothing, bootstrap.log has some worrying stuff in it about warnings "Dependancy issues" and failure to installs on it.
[19:28] <arand> jmg: look at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307019 AND http://unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/525-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu910-karmic-koala
[19:28] <Snausages> can anyone suggest a good method for a complete system backup?
[19:28] <magmarules> I cant get shadows to work, everything works all effects but shadows dont appear
[19:28] <greha> hello
[19:28] <Cale> My headphones no longer work on Karmic.
[19:28] <Schattenwache> Can anyone help about this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/315313/
[19:28] <mbeierl> _mc: yes, if you want that sort of thing.  Otherwise, I'd recommend using NIS
[19:28] <greha> i cant find the w32codecs in the repo
[19:28] <furuno> Kan3 : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[19:28] <jmg> Ok, i've got 2 maudio delta cards, ubuntu reconizes them as ice1712 envy24 cards, but there's no sound
[19:28] <Captain_Haddock> greha: it should be in medibuntu
[19:28] <Captain_Haddock> !medibuntu
[19:28] <furuno> greha : what are you trying to play?
[19:28] <_mc> mbeierl, thanks!
[19:29] <seidos> mbeierl: have you switched a company from windows to ubuntu before?
[19:29] <furuno> Cale : me too :(
[19:29] <Jetsetlemming> "Could no open output file '/dev/xconsole'"
[19:29] <greha> furuno, i want get the divx web player working
[19:29] <Grant__> fcuk112:  thanks. i've tried it but what i don't like about picasa is that even though i can tag photos, i can't see a list of tags to choose from like in f-spot, you actually have to start searching for a tag and hopefully it will auto complete.
[19:29] <Jetsetlemming> This is in the fourth line on the syslog
[19:29] <greha> or at least have vlc start the vid
[19:29] <jmg> I've tried alsa mixen in the terminal, switching cables but no sound.
[19:29] <furuno> greha : would GStreamer sufficient?
[19:29] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Yeah, that would probably result in instant death.
[19:29] <jmg> On 8.04 it worked wright away
[19:29] <greha> furuno, well if it has to it will do
[19:29] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: I dunno, maybe the fsck *did* fix something.
[19:30] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: In any case, it works now. I am utterly perplexed, but I'm happy it worked out for you.
[19:30] <Jetsetlemming> Was it supposed to do something? I thought that was for information.
[19:30]  * MenZa will not sleep tonight.
[19:30] <mbeierl> seidos: no, I have switched a small school though
[19:30] <seidos> mbeierl: cool
[19:30] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: I'm not sure, but it sounds serious :)
[19:30] <jmg> Oh and kubuntu does work, it gives sound you go figure?!?!
[19:30] <eix> i have enabled the blacklist for modems in blacklist-modem.conf but modules are still loaded. looks like a joke. how can i prevent modem modules from being really loaded?
[19:30] <seidos> mbeierl: how did you make that happen?  did you know the principal?
[19:31] <Jetsetlemming> Well, it started with ubuntu freezing. Do you know what would cause that? My music was still playing, but absolutely nothing I did would make the computer respond, including hitting caps lock etc on my keyboard, they wouldn't light up.
[19:31] <eix> Jetsetlemming: it's a known freedesktop bug
[19:31] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: That might be solved by a fsck, but I'm not sure, to be honest.
[19:31] <Jetsetlemming> I was in the middle of browsing a website that was running slow while it happened so my gut reaction is it somehow ran out of memory or something, but I don't see how that would cause a crash
[19:31] <jmg> So no one has any clue huh :-(
[19:31] <eix> Jetsetlemming: it's due to new video drivers/Xorg
[19:31] <arand> jmg: I already told you, look at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307019 AND http://unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/525-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu910-karmic-koala
[19:31] <furuno> Jetsetlemming, or bad flash/js ?
[19:31] <eix> the modules cannot be unloaded after boot because they are in use
[19:31] <mbeierl> seidos: yes.  I'm the IT/computer/support volunteer, so I got to choose
[19:31] <jmg> Ooh ok thanks arand
[19:31] <Jetsetlemming> That can freeze ubuntu?
[19:32] <mbeierl> seidos: all the kids prefer linux now
[19:32] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Not any more than any other operating system.
[19:32] <eix> Jetsetlemming: yes. and I guess your mouse works, but nothing else
[19:32] <seidos> mbeierl: cool
[19:32] <MenZa> Badly-written software can crash any platform.
[19:32] <Jetsetlemming> Yeah, but I couldn't click on anything, just wave it around.
[19:32] <Jetsetlemming> I had gone to the site, www.destructoid.com plenty in windows.
[19:32] <mbeierl> seidos: oddly, it was the 'wobbly-windows' that got them all hooked
[19:32] <woodyjlw> my suspend and wake up on my hp laptop is fixed!  it was a usb gps that i was leaving plugged in to laptop when I would close the lid in my truck and when it would wake it would lock me out of keyboard and mouse.. every time i close lid I unplug gps first and it wakes perfectly so if any one els is having same prob ask if anything is plugged into usb when they let it suspend
[19:32] <MenZa> Hm, what graphics chip do you have, Jetsetlemming
[19:32] <Jetsetlemming> It's always been poorly optimized as websites go but never any system issues with it
[19:32] <Jetsetlemming> Intel 828 integrated chip
[19:32] <eix> Jetsetlemming: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2009-September/004122.html
[19:33] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Aha.
[19:33] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Well, at least be glad you're not on Jaunty.
[19:33] <LucidGuy> Alright, is there a way to set an acl with and then have some kind of mask set that propegates to ALL directories/files forced to the parent directories settings?
[19:33] <seidos> mbeierl: that isn't surprising.  I was hoping to get compiz effects working on my laptop so I can show it off, but no luck with integrated intel graphics
[19:33] <Jetsetlemming> I don't know what jaunty is.
[19:33] <woodyjlw> running on 8.10
[19:33] <ploum> hello km
[19:33] <eix> Jetsetlemming: oops..https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24789
[19:33]  * Cale is starting to wish he was back on Jaunty.
[19:33] <MenZa> Although, it does look like eix has a link that's exactly dscribing what you're having.
[19:33] <seidos> Jetsetlemming: 9.04
[19:33] <greha> furuno, can you help me?
[19:33] <mbeierl> seidos: really?  it works well with the 915 chipset...
[19:33] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: 9.04 was codenamed 'Jaunty Jackalope', or simply 'Jaunty' :)
[19:34] <eix> MenZa: yes, the 2nd link is more appropriate
[19:34] <Cale> This situation with audio on Karmic is just really screwed up.
[19:34] <seidos> mbeierl: i have G960
[19:34] <Jetsetlemming> And we're on 9.10 now, right?
[19:34] <MenZa> Correct.
[19:34] <gon3dion> question: If /14 is a subnet mask, how many bits are there in the host part?
[19:34] <furuno> greha : for installing codec, just install Gstreamer extra plugin & GStreamer FFMPEG from the software source
[19:34]  * seidos doesn't have 9.10 installed
[19:34] <eix> Jetsetlemming: yes
[19:34] <skd5aner> Hello - Audio has been working fine for 2 weeks, but now I get no volume when I playback PCM audio via SPDIF to my receiver
[19:34] <MenZa> Released October (10) 2009 (09) :)
[19:34] <Jetsetlemming> eix's second link shows as an "untrusted connection"
[19:34] <skd5aner> I'm not running pulseaudio
[19:34] <eix> Jetsetlemming: add an exception
[19:34] <saliak> i'm using a dell miniv (with whatever ubuntu customization comes on it).  I have a program i wrote that I can successfully invoke on the command line, but if i add it as a "file" on the shortcut grid, it doesn't start.  another option is to add an "application", but I"m not sure how to get my program on there.  any ideas?  does this make sense?
[19:35] <eix> Jetsetlemming: or better use: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24789
[19:35] <skd5aner> Litterally seems to have just stopped working
[19:35] <geekbuntu> gon3dion: http://www.subnet-calculator.com/
[19:35] <epinky> Schattenwache: what do you mean by hidden?
[19:35] <geekbuntu> has the bits listed on the calculator
[19:35] <Jetsetlemming> "bugs.freedesktop.org uses an invalid security certificate." I find funny, for some reason.
[19:35] <eix> does anybody know how to surely blacklist the modem modules?
[19:35] <Jetsetlemming> Like, the bug site has a bug
[19:35] <dajhorn> gon3dion: 32 - 14 = 18 for IPv4 addresses.
[19:35] <woodyjlw> if I could just get 9.04 or 9.10 to run as good as 8.04 or 8.10 I would be really happy
[19:35] <furuno> saliak : maybe add execution right to that file? e.g. : chmod +x <the_file>
[19:35] <eix> Jetsetlemming: focus on your problem, you'll fix it quicker
[19:35] <jwash> can anyone reccomend a good capture card with hdmi, component, composite and coaxial inputs that works well with ubuntu. please pm me
[19:36] <arand> Jetsetlemming: wellthen, report it ;)
[19:36] <saliak> furuno: ah, good idea
[19:36] <eix> woodyjlw: I have already collected negative feedback from some of my friends :(
[19:36] <MenZa> eix: I don't see that site as having a workaround, or a patch for that sake?
[19:36] <cramop> hello, which package does gnome-shell replace?
[19:36] <eix> MenZa: nope. I could use my desktop my installing the old packages (!)
[19:36] <eix> *by
[19:36] <Grant__> I'll once more before I leave, if anyone knows and has experience with any programs like f-spot that support displaying by based on location (for photos that are geotagged), please let me know. I've tried picasa . thanks
[19:36] <Cale> Each release of Ubuntu for the last 2 or 3 releases has seemed to get successively worse.
[19:36] <dustin2000> whats the command to probe for ati radeon drivers? :)
[19:37] <cramop> I'd like to try gnome-shell permanent, how can I do that?
[19:37] <catamarquence> for developers!!! give spanish language for lotus symphony !!!! pleeeeeeease !!!!
[19:37] <eix> dustin2000: lspci
[19:37] <MenZa> eix: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/447892 <- This is probably a better link; it's not upstream, but...
[19:37] <Cale> Maybe I can switch back to Debian somehow.
[19:37] <Jetsetlemming> Ok, I've read the info. That original link says "PATCH" at the top but I don't see a link to one? Am I supposed to paste that code into somewhere?
[19:37] <dustin2000> thaks
[19:37] <MenZa> catamarquence: Erm, you probably want IBM for that.
[19:37] <eix> MenZa: yes I agree
[19:37] <dustin2000> thanks eix
[19:37] <saliak> furuno: nope, doesn't fix it
[19:37] <gon3dion> dajhorn: thnx
[19:37] <saliak> furuno: already +x
[19:37] <furuno> dustin2000 : or fglrxinfo
[19:37] <eix> Jetsetlemming: try MenZa's link
[19:37] <woodyjlw> eix:  I have tried both 9.10 and 9.04 and had lots of trouble but I am only still leaning linux and maybe I just am not smart enough yet to fix the problems I had
[19:37] <gon3dion> geekbuntu: thnx
[19:37] <dustin2000> gracias
[19:37] <furuno> saliak : what program btw? can you give more info?
[19:37] <MenZa> eix: I see the 'debate' has been moved to upstream, but this has more information.
[19:38] <catamarquence> MenZa: the packages are there but language aint !! imb has them but ubuntu port symphony to the repositories but not the translations
[19:38]  * seidos is considering working on compiling firefox for his cpu
[19:38] <furuno> woodyjlw : 9.04 is more stable for by the way...
[19:38] <andyjb10> hi, i am trying to do a reinstall of karmic, i have a dual boot situation and am confused as to what to choose in the 'prepare partitions' menu
[19:38] <furuno> adyjb10 : depends on what you want :)
[19:38] <MenZa> Is it possible to change the location of notifications?
[19:38] <MenZa> catamarquence: Translate it, then.
[19:38] <saliak> furuno: i wrote a GUI for some hardware we've developed.  at the command line i can invoke it and it works fine
[19:38] <andyjb10> the same dual boot situation as before
[19:39] <furuno> saliak : in what language?
[19:39] <chazco> Hi... how can I run applications that don't fit on the 1024x600 resolution on a device with 1024x600 resolution?
[19:39] <saliak> for some reason, however, when i put that shortcut in, it doesn't work
[19:39] <dustin2000> In terminal for ati radeon drivers will this command work?    The program 'fglrxinfo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[19:39] <dustin2000> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[19:39] <woodyjlw> eix: my biggest problems in 9.04 is video driver for ati 200m and wifi was not near as strong for some reason
[19:39] <vr_mex> Is there a way to access remote desktop if the machine to be accessed is behind a non access firewall?
[19:39] <saliak> furuno: no error message or anything
[19:39] <MenZa> chazco: Honestly? You can't. Some software authors are idiots, and write un-scalable windows.
[19:39] <messiah> hello dudes, this is me again lol, which package do i need to format a hard disk in ntfs with gparted? i have ntfs-3g
[19:39] <chazco> hmm.. no virtual panning or anything?
[19:39] <Delano> Which is the best program for CD/DVD burning?
[19:39] <lee> I'm resizing partitions from gparted from the livecd, it won't let me do something stupid like resize an ntfs partition to the stage where it can't boot due to lack of free space, right? :P
[19:40] <MenZa> !best | Delano
[19:40] <Jetsetlemming> The descriptions of things in those links is a couple notches above my head, technically. I'm still not sure if there's a hotfix/patch/method to avoid it yet
[19:40] <furuno> saliak : maybe you need to add the "full" command to the shortcut, e.g. java -jar myprogram.jar
[19:40] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: It doesn't look like it, no.
[19:40] <Jetsetlemming> Crap.
[19:40] <catamarquence> MenZa: i guess u dont get it... ibm has on their web, hardy packages, not karmic, si karmic developers port symphony... now they olny ported the main package, not the langauges... im sure they know how to make them installable on karmic... since u cant install hardys on karmic ive tried...
[19:40] <seidos> firefox sourcecode 45MB binary is 9MB?
[19:40] <woodyjlw> furuno: and 9.04 and 9.10 have problems with suspend not working at all but is mostly to do with the onboard ati soom chipset
[19:40] <Jetsetlemming> So I just have to wait for Ubuntu 9.11?
[19:40] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: I'm still looking around a bit.
[19:40] <furuno> Delano : I like brasero pretty much
[19:40] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Well, the next version is 10.04. But no, packages are updated all the time.
[19:40] <dustin2000> sorry Im a linux noob-ish guy will this corrupt x? "The program 'fglrxinfo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[19:40] <dustin2000> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[19:40] <dustin2000> "
[19:40] <woodyjlw> 200m chipset
[19:40] <furuno> Jetsetlemming : you mean, 10.04
[19:41] <Evito> whats the command to cut and paste in terminal
[19:41] <saliak> furuno: that's what is in there now.. /home/xitome/RSD/RSD
[19:41] <furuno> dustin2000 : nope, you just need to install ATI Driver
[19:41] <greha> furuno, gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg is the newest version, so how do i make firefox start divx vids with gstreamer?
[19:41] <DaZ> Jetsetlemming: what's wrong? :f
[19:41] <greha> do i have to change that in the settings manually?
[19:41] <chessboxing> dmesg gives me bluetooth output, but the bleutooth app in preferences says there is no bluetooth adapter. ANyone an idea?
[19:41] <Dravekx> How do you make a new user for SFTP access in ubuntu server via SSH?
[19:41] <seidos> my 8.04 cd is screwed.  I booted from it today, but when I try to run Live, or check the disk for errors, the hard drive light turns on and just sits there
[19:41] <vr_mex> Is there a way to access remote desktop if the machine to be accessed is behind a non access firewall?
[19:41] <ryan\n> Anyone know what the difference between this easypeasy business is and Ubuntu's netbook remix?
[19:41] <furuno> saliak : what language is that program? C/Java/Ruby?
[19:41] <addisonj> odd... my shift and caps lock keys just quit working
[19:41] <dustin2000> Thanks furuno
[19:41] <Cale> I have a pair of headphones plugged into the same soundcard as my speakers (an Audigy 2), and pulseaudio's volume controls only display a setting for my speakers, and don't seem to recognize the headphones at all. My headphones are not getting any sound (which they were before Jaunty -> Karmic)
[19:41] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: What bugs me is that it's still unassigned, and importance is still 'undecided'. This is fairly serious.
[19:41] <woodyjlw> I love the look and feel of 9.10  and would install again right now if I could fix suspend mode
[19:41] <MenZa> Dravekx: 1) Create a user, b) SFTP in.
[19:42] <scarface> Evito, Shift+Ctrl+C, Shift+Ctrl+V
[19:42] <geekbuntu> gon3dion: np
[19:42] <Jetsetlemming> So, when there's a fix available for the intel crash thing, will that be automatically detected as an available update? Or since it's specific to a certain graphics card I'd have to go seek it out
[19:42] <preecher> Delano, i like k3b and brasero
[19:42] <saliak> furuno: ah, got it (sorta).  need to add it as a file, then change it to an "application"
[19:42] <Cale> I dislike the look and feel of 9.10 as well, but I can configure that, so I'm not going to complain ;)
[19:42] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: It should update automatically.
[19:42] <saliak> but it doesn't run in the program directory
[19:42] <Jetsetlemming> Ok, that's good, at least.
[19:42] <furuno> saliak : if it's a shell script, then you'll need to add "sh" in front of it : e.g. "sh /path/to/my/program/myprogram"
[19:42] <seidos> what's wrong with the look and feel of 9.10?
[19:42] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: I've marked the bug as 'Confirmed' on Launchpad now.
[19:42] <denisk> I need something that will scale my cpu speed to different settings when plugged in to AC, and when on battery. Does 9.10 do this for me?
[19:43] <LucidGuy> Samba Environment.  I have set acl restcitions on a directory and I want to FORCE all sub folders and files present and future created to be inherit the acl settings of the initial parent directory I have set.  Anyone know how to do that?
[19:43] <saliak> furuno: it's not, it's a compiled executable
[19:43] <Jetsetlemming> Also, at least it doesn't hit me nearly as fast as the guys reporting it in those links, they're having it go as soon as they login, I was in ubuntu for a few hours with no problems before it froze.
[19:43] <Cale> I just preferred how 9.04 looked.
[19:43] <furuno> denisk : with the applet for the gnome-panel, it can to that
[19:43] <chessboxing> no bluetooth adapter is found, however dmesg has bluetooth output..?
[19:43] <saliak> furuno: how do you make sure it's run from it's directory?
[19:43] <seidos> is it anything like Karmic UNR?  I thought Karmic UNR looked pretty clean
[19:43] <crc32> Is there a way to invert the screen colors without useing compiz? Compiz breaks netbeans display.
[19:43] <effort> i'm having problems with my apt-get update... it failed and i don't know how to "clear". i can't connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com or any other server. i'm running 8.04.3. i do have an internet connection on the box. thx
[19:43] <saliak> furuno: i have some xpms that are images on buttons, spash screen, etc.  they're not loading since it's running from some random directory
[19:43] <dazhu> ?
[19:44] <effort> anyone else having problems connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[19:44] <furuno> saliak : depends on the source code I suppose, what language it is?
[19:44] <denisk> Does 9.10 scale my cpu automatically?
[19:44] <furuno> denisk : yes
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> denisk: should do
[19:44] <Cale> The dark blue window titlebars are not appealing, and I don't like the default border or widget themes.
[19:44] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: It looks like you just have pretty unfortunate hardware :\
[19:44] <denisk> how about when running on battery and AC power?
[19:44] <wouterth> I'm trying to get my AG neovo screen working as an external screen with resolution of 1280x1024 on my hp-laptop with nvidia geforce 8400... nvidia-settings doesn't show any resolution with a height of more than 800 pixels...
[19:44] <Jetsetlemming> I knew that even when I was back in windows.
[19:44] <Jetsetlemming> Low FPS in Half-life!
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> effort: can you open this link: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/
[19:45] <Evito> scarface: command to cut/copy a file inside terminal and paste
[19:45] <effort> evito: yes.
[19:45] <Jetsetlemming> So, I guess there's nothing left to be done about that. Is it ok if I ask about something else?
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Jetsetlemming: have you consulted the appdb for settings?
[19:45] <saliak> furuno: c++.  this seems like a windowing system setup to me.. like in windws you specify which directory the application lauches in
[19:45] <IcyPolecat> anyone here familier with kvm? or can recommend an alternate channel (other than ubuntu-virt)
[19:45] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: Do go on - anything regarding Ubuntu support is welcome here.
[19:45] <enrico_> hey...
[19:45] <Jetsetlemming> My keyboard's media keys don't work by default.
[19:45] <MenZa> Aha!
[19:45] <dassouki> how can i deal with this error when i connect to my remote Error while getting peer-to-peer dbus connection: The name :1.184 was not provided by any .service files
[19:45] <Jetsetlemming> Is there something I can install to get those detected?
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut | Jetsetlemming
[19:46] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts.
[19:46] <denisk> furuno: does 9.10 scale differently (performance) during AC than when I run off battery (conservative)?
[19:46] <enrico_> i believe this is a hardware issue, but i could be mistaken
[19:46] <MenZa> Jetsetlemming: At least, that's how I got my G15's media keys to work.
[19:46] <furuno> denisk : you can set that in many way
[19:46] <pronoy> !gnochm
[19:46] <scarface> Evito, the command to copy a file is "cp sourceFile destinationDir" and to move the file is "mv sourceFile destinationDir"
[19:46] <Jetsetlemming> The hotkey for launching calculator works by default, oddly enough.
[19:46] <furuno> saliak : sorry I'm not familiar with C++
[19:46] <pronoy> !info gnochm
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> !info gnochm
[19:46] <Jetsetlemming> Just not the play/pause/volume buttons. :P
[19:46] <Evito> effort, i dont think you understood what i mean
[19:46] <denisk> furuno: I tried different thinks, what actually 'works'? I can figure out the rest myself
[19:46] <enrico_> im running ubuntu 9.10 on a compaq presario v2570ca. The problem im having is with the touchpad. With battery only, touch pad works. With ac, touchpad no longer responds or is extremely sluggish.
[19:46] <denisk> things*
[19:47] <vr_mex> Is there a way to access remote desktop if the machine to be accessed is behind a non access firewall?
[19:47] <urlwolf> everyone using ext4 happy around here?
[19:47] <denisk> very
[19:47] <woodyjlw> I tried to install 9.04 and 9.10 on my custom desktop i built that has the asus m2n4-sli board and amd x2 64 bit cpu and ati 2600 dx10 card and creative xfi sound card but kept getting error and it would not see my 250 gig sata drive. I did get wubi to install and it runs fine like that but I know it is not as good as it would be with full install
[19:47] <pronoy> hmm...need to file a bug for this, crashes frequently
[19:47] <effort> evito: i definitely don't "know"  :)
[19:47] <furuno> denisk : the CPU frequency scale switcher for the gnome-panel works really fine for my Athlon II
[19:47] <enrico_> however, if i put my other hand on the laptop, it works again
[19:47] <Evito> there a linky to general commands used in ubuntu etc
[19:47] <enrico_> thoughts ?
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> enrico_: when you connect the power, run: dmesg | tail -n 20    to see whats going on
[19:47] <urlwolf> so ext4 is ready for primetime?
[19:47] <denisk> furuno: it doesn't switch automatically for me though..
[19:47] <MenZa> urlwolf: Indeed.
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> urlwolf: i'd say so
[19:47] <denisk> furuno: and gets annoying typing in my password each time
[19:48] <vr_mex> Is there a way to access remote desktop if the machine to be accessed is behind a non access firewall?
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> vr_mex: what OS is the server?
[19:48] <MenZa> vr_mex: not really. if it won't let anything through, it won't let anything through. unless, of course, you could employ an ssh tunnel for it.
[19:48] <Hald> Hello everyone.
[19:48] <arand> urlwolf: that's somewhat too much of a poll question (having this whole channel answer yes/no won't work ;) )
[19:48] <vr_mex> ActionParsnip: ubuntu 9.10
[19:48] <furuno> !hi | Hald
[19:48] <enrico_> ActionParsnip, nothing really of interest i dont think..its all about my wlan0
[19:49] <MenZa> vr_mex: http://members.shaw.ca/nicholas.fong/vnc/ <- This looks like something you might want, but I haven ever attempted to do so myself.
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> vr_mex: you will need to perform port forwarding on the wan interface to permit the connection. If that isnt possible you are stuck, you will need to get a device with more configurability
[19:50] <Hald> does any one know what I can do to get ATI 9600 to performe better in Ubuntu 9.10? I'm having alot of driver bugs I think.
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> enrico_: maybe you need to disable acpi which may be weird, or you may need an alternative, or a boot option
[19:50] <denisk> Isn't cpufreq in the 2.6+ kernel? How come I can't do anything with it in terminal?
[19:50] <vr_mex> ok guys so then, I have someone i need to help in a remote location, this person has ubuntu 9.10 but has no access to the firewall, so then there is no way that i can help if there is no way to configure the remote firewall?
[19:51] <F4wltytowers> Someone please help me. How do I set up media keys and buttons on both my keyboard and mouse??
[19:51] <eshi> hello does anyone know how to install dm_mod on a livecd? I'm trying to recover a LUKS partition
[19:51] <enrico_> ActionParsnip, could it be a hardware issue. It seems like there is a capacitance build up with AC connected, and my other hand is providing a discharge path
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> vr_mex: no, the hardware is stopping you
[19:51] <Hald> F4wltytowers: have you tryed the configuration app in system -> settings -> hotkeys?
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> enrico_: possibly, you should see if there are guides for your mnake / model
[19:51] <vr_mex> Ok then she will need to get access to the firewall and enable fort forwarding, right?
[19:52] <nocleader> Is it possible to have a local .hosts file for a user?   Maybe I want to define a local device as "StupidRouter"
[19:52] <furuno> F4wltytowers, something like this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LogitechG15 ?
[19:52] <enrico_> ActionParsnip, ok, just wanted an idea of what it could be. ill look more into a bit later. thanks for the guidance
[19:52] <andersbr> If you know the URI for an AFP share (eg: afp://192.168.0.76), how do you connect to it?  Nothing on the "Connect to server" menu works.
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> vr_mex: yes or the device will drop the connection packets as they have not been requested#
[19:52] <furuno> F4wltytowers, never tried it tought :)
[19:52] <vr_mex> thanks a lot for your help ;-)
[19:52] <F4wltytowers> Hald and furuno: That won't work for me. First, it only controls keyboard keys. Secondly, I have buttons on my mouse that it can't program.
[19:53] <enrico_> btw, if anyone knows...how are ati drivers for ubuntu 9.10 ? i have a desktop that has an ati agp card with dual monitors. id like to make that an ubuntu machine, but the drivers is whats preventing me.
[19:53] <Silent_Echo> how do i enter bios through windows?
[19:53] <MenZa> Silent_Echo: you, er, don't?
[19:53] <furuno> enrico_ : my ATI cards run fine with catalyst 9.10 driver
[19:53] <mikebeecham> hi there...what folder would I find all my application 'exe' files (I know they're not exe, but I'm from a windows background)!!
[19:53] <enrico_> furuno, pci-e or agp ?
[19:53] <Silent_Echo> MenZa....mmm how do i get to bios?
[19:54] <bthomson> mikebeecham: /usr/bin
[19:54] <user1231234> hi, when i try to start my ubuntu9.10 with lvm passphrase, an error comes white cryptsetup: UNKNOW FSTYPE, bad pass..etc    can someone help please???
[19:54] <furuno> enrico_ : a HD4850 PCI-E
[19:54] <MenZa> Silent_Echo: reboot your machine, hit whatever key is required to enter it
[19:54] <MenZa> normally del, f2 or f8
[19:54] <Hald> enrico_ I got an ATI 9600 M card and its not working any good!
[19:54] <bastidrazor> !filesystem | mikebeecham read this for some clarity
[19:54] <furuno> enrico_ : maybe take a look at : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Karmic_Installation_Guide
[19:54] <enrico_> furuno, i read somewhere that agp was a bit more difficult to get working
[19:54] <mikebeecham> bthomson: thanks mate
[19:54] <Shikaku> !compcache
[19:54] <saliak> furuno: http://forum.soft32.com/linux2/Gnome-Defining-Launched-Application-Working-Directory-ftopict54771.html had my solution.  needed to make a shell script to change to the local directory
[19:55] <furuno> saliak : I see...
[19:55] <eshi> hello does anyone know how to install dm_mod on a livecd? I'm trying to recover a LUKS partition
[19:55] <user1231234> was there a tip for me ? ? ?
[19:55] <nailora> where does empathy/telepathy save its configuration
[19:55] <Evito> how can i login as root
[19:55] <Pici> !root | Evito
[19:55] <furuno> Evito : use recovery mode from the boot menu
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> nailora: ~/.empathy
[19:56] <enrico_> i guess its a bit of luck to get it to work. some people say its good, some no
[19:56] <MenZa> snuxoll: or /W 62
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> nailora: cd ~; ls -a   will show you the folder
[19:56] <MenZa> Aherm.
[19:56] <Dravekx> I have a friend who is on my server, but I only want to give him access to a certain directory, how do I do that?
[19:56] <marlonbrando> hello, im confuse with amr packages i should install to get audio from 3gp video. please help. :)
[19:56] <nailora> ActionParsnip: no such folder. i used pidgin before. maybe it does some magic about using that config?
[19:56] <furuno> Dravekx : just edit the permission for that folder (right click > properties from nautilus)
[19:57] <Shikaku> sudo apt-get install lupin-casper enables compcache on an installed system.  that causes a lot of stability issues...
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> Dravekx: create a group, add him to the group as well as the owner of the folder, then run: sudo chmod -R :group_name_you made /path/to/folder
[19:57] <Shikaku> is this a known issue?
[19:57] <furuno> nailora : I highly recommend that you get back to pidgin :) As I do that too...
[19:58] <furuno> nailora : Pidgin >>>>> Empathy IMO
[19:58] <Evito> Pici, just having a little problem of running a file from terminal with root rights
[19:58] <nailora> furuno: yeah, i want to use telepathy for testing. but somehow it uses my real accounts all the time. so i want to reset the config. but i cannot find the config
[19:58] <Shikaku> evito: sudo su
[19:58] <Evito> Pici, if i try to use: sudo ./filename   it doesnt work
[19:59] <Evito> how do i go about it with sudo
[19:59] <Pici> Evito: Is the file set +x ?
[19:59] <Shikaku> is it executable?
[19:59] <marlonbrando> amrnb or amrwb ? so i can listen to audio in 3gp video. :(
[20:00] <scarface> !grub2
[20:00] <Evito> yes its an executable
[20:00] <duffydack> marlonbrando, just use vlc
[20:00] <mikebeecham> bthomson: I've found the thunderbird file I was looking for, but it's an older version (2.0), I have version 3 installed but cannot find this?  Would you know where to look?
[20:00] <furuno> it just me or I think that GRUB > GRUB2 is similiar to KDE3 > KDE4 :/
[20:01] <MrStein> Argh, what is this sucky IRC support in Karmic !?  Empathy has no IRC support (it seems, correct me if I'm wrong), the configured irc: URL handler is banned on freenode, and even going thru webchat.freenode.net does not allow one to join #ubuntu directly.
[20:01] <marlonbrando> duffydack : vlc can only play 3gp video but not audio.
[20:01] <hwilde> MrStein, try xchat
[20:01] <Shikaku> grub2 > grub, it's just different to configure
[20:01] <furuno> MrStein : use Gnome-Xchat
[20:01] <Hald> Do I dare to install kernel 2.6.32 R6 to maby get better performance of my ati 9600 card?
[20:02] <furuno> MrStein : I mean, Xchat-gnome, or so
[20:02] <bthomson> mikebeecham: you can search for the file if you know the name
[20:02] <duffydack> marlonbrando, mine plays fine..  smplayer does too
[20:02] <MrStein> furuno: yes, but why no IRC client on the default install ?
[20:02] <Pici> MrStein: Empathy supports IRC
[20:02] <Shikaku> sudo [text editor] /etc/default/grub
[20:02] <furuno> !love | MrStein
[20:02] <furuno> or so?
[20:02] <OerHeks> Shikaku, do you wat to backup ? you need squashfs-tools too
[20:03] <aleks_> k ondas
[20:03] <aleks_> holas
[20:03] <erUSUL> !es | aleks_
[20:03] <Xcell> I believe you have to install the irc handlers for empathy to use irc
[20:03] <swtaarrs> since I upgraded to karmic, emacs in a terminal has a gray background instead of a white background like every other release, anyone know how to fix this?
[20:03] <duffydack> marlonbrando, tried installing libopencore-amrnb0 and libopencore-amrwb0 ?
[20:03] <Shikaku> OerHeks: i'm making a backup and I noticed that compcache is enabled when i install lupin-casper
[20:03] <ubuntu__> xchat broke down, everythings broke!   UNKNOW FSTYPE, bad password or options?  while startup with cryptsetup, please help ???
[20:03] <MrStein> Pici: really? I dont see it in the protocl list when creating an account. Can you give a hint?
[20:03] <aleks_> no mamen kmo k nadie sabe espeñol
[20:03] <Pici> w/ii aleks_
[20:04] <Dravekx> how do I give my friend access to a certain directory????
[20:04] <aleks_> sip
[20:04] <marlonbrando> duffydack : ok, lll try.
[20:04] <Dravekx> via sftp
[20:04] <Pici> MrStein: I know its supported, but I personally use irssi, so I haven't had the need to try it.
[20:04] <aleks_> k achos
[20:04] <eshi> hey, does anyone know how to recover a drive that was encrypted with the alternative installer? I tried luksOpen but it says the dm_module is not loaded. Is there a way to install the dm_module? insmod did not work for me. thanks
[20:04] <losha> swtaarrs: does emacs -bg white not work?
[20:05] <MrStein> Pici: ah, it is there in prefs, but the first time wizard is missing it.
[20:05] <OerHeks> Shikaku, this doc might help you out > http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1169505.html
[20:05] <swtaarrs> losha: nope :(
[20:05] <Shikaku> OerHeks: that's what I'm using =|
[20:05] <sd32> is the current flash player in the repos incompatable with firefox3.5.5. because ive installed it and cant get firefox to see the plugin
[20:05] <Shikaku> I'm gonna reply to that thread
[20:06] <OerHeks> ah oke, we are on the same line :D
[20:06] <erUSUL> eshi: sudo modprobe dm_module
[20:06] <dick> sd32: which flash player?
[20:06] <eshi> FATAL: Module dm_module not found.
[20:07] <sd32> dick, adobe
[20:07] <Snausages> anyone familiar with mondoarchiver?
[20:07] <erUSUL> eshi: dm_mod or dm-mod
[20:07] <furuno> sd32 : does flasplugin-installer work ?
[20:07] <eshi> same error for both
[20:07] <dick> sd32: I use adobe on both a 32bit and 64bit install of karmic and firefox 3.5 has no problem with it.
[20:07] <MrStein> Is there a keyboard shortcut to eject a DVD?
[20:08] <arand> sd32: where did you install it?
[20:08] <sd32> dick, it just wont see it for some reason and i cant figure it out
[20:08] <sd32> arand, flash?
[20:08] <zniavre> !audigy
[20:08] <sd32> ubuntu software center
[20:08] <dick> sd32: did you install as the firefox plugin or install to the os
[20:09] <Dravekx> How do I see a list of groups???
[20:09] <eix> does anybody know how to prevent system from loading some modules?
[20:09] <eshi> erUSUL, any idea where dm_module is? in a package or something?
[20:09] <eix> it keeps loading blacklisted modules
[20:09] <dick> sd32: try installing it as a plugin to firefox.
[20:09] <sd32> dick, in the software center
[20:09] <Hald> what is the linux-headers and linux-image?
[20:09] <erUSUL> eshi: comes with the kernel.
[20:09] <dick> sd32: saw that
[20:09] <furuno> sd32 : try using : sudo apt-get install flasplugin-installer
[20:09] <eshi> shouldn't it be on the livecd as well then?
[20:09] <arand> sd32: the libflashplayer.so file yes?
[20:09] <sd32> dick, ok do i remove the current version first?
[20:10] <dick> sd32: furuno has a good suggetstion to
[20:10] <erUSUL> eshi: yes. find /lib/modules/  -name '*dm-mod*'
[20:10] <Shikaku> i'm trying to file a bug report to prevent it from enabling compcache but it's not working =(
[20:10] <furuno> Hald : the kernel itself?
[20:10] <dick> sd32: not don't uninstall it first
[20:10] <chessboxing> bluetooth help!? pls
[20:10] <sd32> furuno, ok thanks ill try that
[20:10] <dick> sd32: but do go to the firefox plugin site and try that one first
[20:11] <Hald> furuno: so both is needed to be installed?
[20:11] <furuno> Hald : I suppose :)
[20:11] <erUSUL> Hald: no; headers are optional
[20:11] <sd32> dick, i heard that can cause problems instaslling it from the website
[20:11] <furuno> sd32 : correction : sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[20:11] <Hald> what are in the headers, erUSUL
[20:11] <furuno> sd32 : I was missing "h" :)
[20:12] <erUSUL> Hald: the files needed to compile a driver (module) for the installed kernel
[20:12] <Shikaku> Hald: linux-headers are needed for compiling programs.
[20:12] <erUSUL> Hald: most people do not need to do that
[20:12] <craigbass1976> I've got two nearly identical boxes (LAMP)  One is running regular ubuntu Jaunty.  The other is running 8.04 server mode.  J is quick, H is slow.  In both instances, it's when I query a database with php from a web page.
[20:12] <pronoy> ActionParsnip: adding a ppa to software sources just requires this "ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa" to be added in the apt line or more ?
[20:12] <dick> sd32: I have three things installed: flash plugin, flash plugin installer and flash plugin non free
[20:12] <craigbass1976> AND, it's intermittent...
[20:12] <sd32> furuno, ok thanks..:)
[20:12] <Hald> erUSUL, Shikaku. Now I understand. thank you!
[20:12] <sd32> dick, ok thanks
[20:12] <Phoenix2072> Hi new to Ubuntu, have issue, my windows all come up completely maximized
[20:12] <dick> sd32: check in synaptic to see which are installed
[20:13] <furuno> Phoenix2072 : do you use compiz?
[20:13] <sd32> dick, ok
[20:13] <PleXuS> anyone else having issue's with Palimpsest SoftRaid tool ?
[20:13] <furuno> Phoenix2072 : have screenshot?
[20:13] <Delano> Is there a better audio player than RhythmBox?
[20:13] <eshi> i got the module working erUSUL, does it mean i'm screwed if cryptsetup cant open a luks partition?
[20:13] <pronoy> adding a ppa to software sources just requires this "ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa" to be added in the apt line or more ?
[20:13] <Delano> RB is okay
[20:13] <Shikaku> Delano: amarok
[20:13] <furuno> Delano : depend on your taste
[20:13] <Phoenix2072> trying to, it keeps changing my settings everytime I reboot
[20:13] <Delano> But it's primitive
[20:13] <marcc> anybody know why my nautilus navigation icons would be smaller suddenly?
[20:13] <arand> !best | Delano
[20:13] <dick> Delano: try Banshee
[20:13] <almoxarife> Delano: VLC works for me
[20:14] <hillshum> pronoy: Use sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[20:14] <pronoy> Delano: banshee, exaile
[20:14] <marcc> my bread crumbs appear to the aright of my other nautilus icons now :-/
[20:14] <furuno> Delano : I like RB because of several plugin (desktop-art)
[20:14] <erUSUL> eshi: dunno never used encryption i'm not familiar with its issues. you probably need dm-crypt and other modules loaded ...
[20:14] <Linux_eki> i am having problems with installing grub 2. if someone knows about grub 2, please open quesry.
[20:14] <erUSUL> !grub2
[20:14] <sd32> dick, do i want adobe-flashplugin?
[20:14] <Delano> I want something that has an equalizer (and presets) and doesn't try to sort my music according to its own predefintions
[20:14] <F4wltytowers> How do I configure GRUB2?
[20:14] <Phoenix2072> am running Karmic
[20:14] <dick> Delano: also have Qmmp and audacious installed
[20:14] <furuno> sd32 : I guess it's the best if you want flash
[20:14] <dick> sd32: yes
[20:14] <nbn> For some reason gdm login screen appears 3-8 times @ boot. Any idea how to debug it? which logs to check etc.
[20:14] <Shikaku> Delano: vlc works well for those
[20:14] <F4wltytowers> Anyone know???
[20:15] <pronoy> Delano: exaile has that i believe
[20:15] <dick> furono: yep, I tried others but adobe still works best for me
[20:15] <eshi> i have dm-crypt and lvm2 installed
[20:15] <furuno> !grub | F4wltytowers
[20:15] <joyful_dep> #radeon
[20:15] <furuno> !grub2 | F4wltytowers
[20:15] <furuno> :)
[20:15] <F4wltytowers> furuno: No, I want to configure it
[20:15] <eshi> man ...i just want to save my stuff
[20:15] <Shikaku> F4wltytowers: sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[20:15] <F4wltytowers> ok
[20:15] <F4wltytowers> thanks
[20:15] <furuno> F4wltytowers, there's the instruction there
[20:15] <eshi> lol my system crapped out right before my next backup
[20:15] <F4wltytowers> I just needed to know where the file was
[20:15] <Phoenix2072> furuno: I am trying to use Compiz
[20:15] <Delano> IDeally, it should be extendable with plugins
[20:15] <pronoy> hillshum: invalid operation repository
[20:15] <furuno> F4wltytowers, /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:16] <pronoy> Delano: EXAILE
[20:16] <Shikaku> there's 2 now F4wltytowers
[20:16] <Zer> Howdy... I noticed in System Monitor that there is a user 'haldaemon' running a process, but in Users and Groups it is unlisted. Why does it not list it? It's in Groups for some reason
[20:16] <craigbass1976> furuno, not menu.lst?
[20:16] <Shikaku> craigbass1976: that's grub1
[20:16] <Delano> pronoy, okay
[20:16] <furuno> craigbass1976, for GRUB2, it is
[20:16] <Linux_eki> i want to install grub 2 to partition where 9.10 is installed. i want keep old grub
[20:16] <sd32> furuno, when i try to install adobe-flashplugin it wants to uninstall flashplugin-installer
[20:16] <pronoy> Delano: you might wanna google its features
[20:16] <craigbass1976> furuno, Ahh...  Still on hardy here...
[20:17] <furuno> sd32 : I sugegst you just use flashplugin-installer instead
[20:17] <F4wltytowers> wtf
[20:17] <F4wltytowers> I can't log in as root
[20:17] <pronoy> hillshum: dude ?
[20:17] <F4wltytowers> in terminal
[20:17] <furuno> F4wltytowers, reboot, select recovery mode from the list, and choose to drop to root terminal
[20:17] <Shikaku> F4wltytowers: use sudo su?
[20:17] <sd32> furuno, so no to adobe-flashplugin?
[20:17] <Cale> hmm... at least with pulseaudio removed my headphones *work*, but there's no way to control the volume from the gnome panel now.
[20:17] <Delano> Heh
[20:17] <furuno> sd32, yes
[20:18] <F4wltytowers> Shikaku: Not working :s
[20:18] <sd32> furuno, ok
[20:18] <Delano> QMMP is another Winamp clone
[20:18] <Cale> I wonder if there's a way to get the volume control applet back.
[20:18] <M3t0r> in terminal type 'sudo -s' and enter your password
[20:18] <Phoenix2072> I am using Compiz, and all my windows come up maximized with no control buttons on the title bar
[20:18] <plazia> Delano, qmmp support .cue files?
[20:18] <hillshum> pronoy: I may have spelled it wrong
[20:18] <Delano> plazia, dunno
[20:18] <furuno> Phoenix2072 : do you have compiz config settings manager?
[20:18] <plazia> I've been using audacious because it supports them but it crashes with .cue files LOL
[20:18] <dick> furono: I got all three installed, it works so I don't mess with it. :)
[20:18] <Phoenix2072> furuno, Yes
[20:18] <plazia> only one I've found to work decently with cue files is cuberok
[20:18] <pronoy> Phoenix2072: the window decorator crashed i guess, try compiz --replace
[20:18] <arand> M3t0r: that should be sudo -i for the recommended ubuntu way I think
[20:18] <petfrogg> hello
 useradd -G www-data friend <<< User already exists. :(<Dravekx> how do i make him a part of that group?
[20:18] <Shikaku> Phoenix2072: alt+f2 and compiz --replace
[20:18] <furuno> Phoneix2072 : if so, enbale the window decorator plugin
[20:18] <alienkid10> how to make a graphical environment in a chroot? I am making my own liveCD and would like to use synaptic to install packages
[20:19] <j2daosh> what is the formula for finding combinations? (yeah i know this is ubuntu chat but it was either ask here or in ##windows....) say i want to know how many different combinations are in a 50 question test with 4 possible answers
[20:19] <Cale> j2daosh: Why wouldn't you try #math?
[20:19] <Shikaku> 50 * 4 = 200
[20:19] <furuno> j2daosh, permutation?
[20:19] <Delano> pronoy, I'm not terribly impressed by exhaile
[20:19] <j2daosh> because there is no one in there...
[20:19] <Cale> j2daosh: 4^50
[20:19] <Delano> pronoy, there's not equalizer
[20:19] <code> If gnome is broke, how should this be fixed? Gnome launches with errors/warnings. Jaunty on intel.
[20:19] <j2daosh> ok, thank you :)
[20:19] <Cale> j2daosh: there are 473 people in #math
[20:20] <pronoy> hillshum: man apt-get shows no inkling of a keyword called repository
[20:20] <arand> code: which errors?
[20:20] <Phoenix2072> furuno, it is enabled still have issue
[20:20] <j2daosh> no one is in there for me
[20:20] <j2daosh> its just me sitting in the room alone
[20:20] <Phoenix2072> Shikaku, not sure what you mean
[20:20] <pronoy> Delano: i seem to have read somewhere that it can be installed hang on lemme check
[20:20] <Shikaku> Phoenix2072: alt+f2 and compiz --replace, did you do that?
[20:20] <Shikaku> press alt+f2
[20:20] <sd32> furuno, still no flash works
[20:20] <Shikaku> and run that
[20:20] <Delano> pronoy, don't bother
[20:20] <furuno> Phoneix2072 : what's your entry the Command filed in WIndow Decoration plugin
[20:20] <Shikaku> you don't want to run it in a terminal
[20:20] <pronoy> Delano: whatever you say
[20:20] <dick> sd32: which files in synaptic do u see?
[20:21] <Delano> I'll have to use Winamp or AIMP via wine, pronoy
[20:21] <Delano> Linux's audio support is really, really pathetic
[20:21] <Shikaku> vlc has an equalizer and a library
[20:21] <Phoenix2072> Shikaku, new, do not understand command you are giving
[20:21]  * pronoy winces
[20:21] <Shikaku> compiz --replace reloads compiz
[20:21] <pronoy> Delano: winamp using wine..wow. now thats bleeding, no edge. seriously
[20:21] <sd32> dick, flash plugin-installer,flashplugin-nonfree
[20:21] <hillshum> pronoy: the command was 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa'
[20:22] <furuno> Phoenix2072, press ALT+F2 the type in "compiz --replace" and hit enter
[20:22] <Phoenix2072> shikaku, furuno, am doing so now
[20:22] <dick> sd32: ok go ahead an try installing adobe flashplugin, nothin to lose
[20:22] <zenyatta> any one else have problems with empathy?? I just re-installed pidgin and connected in seconds..
[20:22] <code> with broken gnome could a new version be installed through synaptic. This would installl over existing broken one right?
[20:22] <pronoy> hillshum: worked
[20:23] <furuno> sd32 : just like dick says :)
[20:23] <Delano> pronoy, well, it works and works well... don't get me wrong, I love Linux, but honestly, all the default Linux audio players are either weak Winamp clones or they're bogged down trying to intergrate your playlist to last.fm but offer no functionality or expansion
[20:23] <nbn> After getting the latest install I have to log in between 3 and 8 times before getting to my desktop. Anybody have any clue where to look?
[20:23] <hillshum> pronoy: Try to actually do what you're told next time? :)
[20:23] <sd32> dick,ok ill try that
[20:23] <Phoenix2072> Shikaku, Furuno : I am back, Thank you !!!
[20:23] <pronoy> Delano: are you on gnome, because if you were on kde you wouldn't be saying that
[20:23] <AgentX> I am trying to install Kubuntu 9.10 on my desktop. The issue I am having is that the installer does not recognize my Seagate 500GB HDD (ST3500320AS). I have updated the firmware on the drive. Other (smaller) drives do show using the same BIOS settings. ANy ideas?
[20:23] <furuno> Phoneix2072 : now open your compiz-config setting manager
[20:23] <Delano> pronoy, I tried amarok, didn't impress me either
[20:24] <pronoy> hillshum: apologies..but i did, the first time i copied the command and it didn't work
[20:24] <code> some help with gnome install pls!
[20:24] <alienkid10> what does cannot fork pty mean?
[20:24] <Delano> pronoy, again, another "web intergration" bloat
[20:24] <Xcell> install amarok 1.4  works like amarok should
[20:24] <pronoy> Delano: ok then, well you are really hard to impress...i rest my case
[20:24] <Shikaku> Delano: did you try vlc?
[20:24] <furuno> Phoenix2072 : in your Decoration Window plugin settings, make sure the entry for Command is "/usr/bin/compiz-decorator"
[20:24] <ironsight> popping sound in games, how to fix?
[20:24] <hillshum> pronoy: Hmm. Why did you say that is not an apt keyword then?
[20:24] <arand> sd32: they are exactly the same, but go with installer, since the nonfree is a transitional package, scheduled for removal, at some point (hance good to get in the habit to use installer, should the other one disappear in the next release)
[20:24] <dick> sd32: don't forget to restart your browser after the install
[20:24] <Delano> Shikaku, yep, it works really well, but not quite what I want
[20:24] <furuno> Phoenix2072 : and the entry for Decoration Window is "any"
[20:24] <Delano> pronoy, yes, yes I am :o)
[20:24] <sintryx> ironsight, which game?
[20:25] <Delano> pronoy, no reason for settle for 2nd best, imo
[20:25] <JamezQ> I can't move out of the minimized window in tremulas, any help?
[20:25] <Shikaku> Delano: totem?
[20:25] <Xcell> and audacious2 works excellent now
[20:25] <code> so no help on gnome?
[20:25] <furuno> Delano : how about MPD + Sonata
[20:25] <ironsight> sintryx, supertuxracer amongst others
[20:25] <wamellx> hey, are there any wma codecs for linux. how do i install and use wine and, can i get silverlight on linux
[20:25] <Delano> pronoy, part of the spirit of open source is listening to suggestions and improving upon them
[20:25] <Phoenix2072> Furuno, yes it is they same as it has been
[20:25] <pronoy> hillshum: oh you're not gonna believe this, but i actually checked the apt-get man rather than add-apt-repository, very sorry to bother you unnecessarily
[20:25] <hillshum> !silverlight > wamellx
[20:25] <ironsight> supertuxkart rather
[20:25] <Shikaku> !medibuntu
[20:25] <Linux_eki> can the grub 2 be installed example to dev/sda2/, from ubuntu 9.04?
[20:25] <furuno> wamellx : for codec, install the GStreamer Plugin Extra & GStreamer FFPMEG from software center
[20:25] <Delano> Furuno, what's that?
[20:26] <hillshum> pronoy: Ahh. np
[20:26] <pronoy> Delano: exactly ! this isn't a development channel. its helping channel.
[20:26] <dAlfa89_> wamellx, "sudo apt-get install wine" in Terminal
[20:26] <furuno> Delano : a "definiltely not winamp like" audio player :)
[20:26] <wamellx> tyty
[20:26] <furuno> Delano : or Moc for more geeky music
[20:26] <hillshum> pronoy: Use moonlight for Silverlight
[20:26] <pronoy> hillshum: eh ?
[20:26] <mgv1> why i cant select one word at double clicking?
[20:26] <sd32> dick, it uninstalled both other packages..installed adobe flashplugin..still doesnt see the flashplayer
[20:26] <hillshum> no problem
[20:26] <Viking667> Hi there. I have an old 12"-square Genius tablet I want to support. Problem is, it uses the summa driver, which isn't in Xorg any more. Any clues about what I can look at next to get this old hardware going?
[20:27] <code> why is some feedback on gnome question so difficult?
[20:27] <Viking667> mgv1: what application?
[20:27] <Delano> furuno, well, I don't mind a winamp clone... as long as it's a "decent" winamp clone, and not some primitive player that supports winamp 2 skins :op
[20:27] <dick> sd32: hmmm, did you restart the browser?
[20:27] <furuno> Delano : MPD is pretty good then
[20:27] <sd32> dick, yes
[20:27] <Phoenix2072> Furuno, the settings are as you said
[20:27] <furuno> Delano : http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Music_Player_Daemon_Wiki
[20:27] <jrib> code: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[20:27] <Delano> furuno, as I outlined above, something that's compact, has an equalizer, doesn't try to pre-sort my music, etc, are good
[20:27] <dick> sd32: ok, which version are you on? Jaunty or Karmic?
[20:27] <furuno> Phoenix2072, it's all good then, just to make sure :)
[20:28] <sd32> dick, karmic
[20:28] <dick> sd32: thanks
[20:28] <Phoenix2072> Furuno, going to reboot, if have same issue will rejoin chat
[20:28] <ironsight> so umm, anyone had issues/fixes for popping sound?
[20:28] <Delano> furuno, which version do I download?
[20:28] <Phoenix2072> Furuno, thank you for assistance
[20:28] <sd32> dick, i installed firefox with ubuntuzilla..wonder if that has anyhing to do with it?
[20:29] <mgv1> Viking667, firefox address bar
[20:29] <dick> sd32: not sure what Ubuntuzilla is
[20:29] <code> jrib i did but here it is again: On Jaunty, gnome is broke. How to fix or install?
[20:29] <Take0n> how do I check if a specific process is running?
[20:29] <mads-> How can I see which encoding a file has? UTF-8 or iso-something
[20:29] <jrib> !details | code
[20:29] <sd32> !ubuntuzilla
[20:29] <hillshum> Is there a way to make the sound output in karmic mono?
[20:29] <furuno> Delano : hhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75795
[20:30] <craigbass1976> Take0n, ps -ef | grep process name
[20:30] <dick> sd32: just jumped to that site.  I don't see that as an issue
[20:30] <furuno> Delano : rather old tough
[20:30] <dick> sd32: try reinstalling the other 2 just for giggles
[20:30] <JamezQ> i'm on ubuntu 9.10, hover the problem is with 9.04 aswell.
[20:31] <sd32> dick, it worked fine in 3.5.4 but once i went 3.5.5 it wouldnt see it
[20:31] <maxime_> re
[20:31] <hccmb> hello
[20:31] <hccmb> tghere
[20:31] <dick> sd32: you might want to check in the FF forums to see if anyone else is having the problem
[20:31] <kripy> Linux max 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP
[20:31] <kripy> oups
[20:31] <sd32> dick, ok thanks
[20:31] <code> Jaunty, has broken gnome. Need to repair. Can gnome be installed by synaptic over existing one?
[20:31] <Take0n> thank you craigbass1976
[20:32] <hccmb> i have 9.10 and need to install 3D drivers for ati  radeon 9800, any tips are welcome
[20:32] <AgentX> I am trying to install Kubuntu 9.10 on my desktop. The issue I am having is that the installer does not recognize my Seagate 500GB HDD (ST3500320AS). I have updated the firmware on the drive. Other (smaller) drives do show using the same BIOS settings. Any ideas?
[20:32] <wouterth> nvidia-settings doesn't show the right resolution for my external screen on nvidia geforce 8400... 1360*768 and 1024*768 are possibilities, but i want it 1280*1024... (ag neovo screen)
[20:32] <furuno> hurray my Xchat has just crashed :)
[20:33] <dick> sd32: sorry we couldn't solve it, I'm using FF 3.5.6pre and no probs
[20:33] <aguitel> hccmb, what about restricted drivers ?
[20:33] <pronoy> code: think you should drop to command line and apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:33] <tomas_> good day, might sound like a silly question, but how do I find where are my drives mapped (like /mnt/blabla) when I map them using "Connect to sever"?
[20:33] <pronoy> code: but i am not sure
[20:33] <sd32> dick, no problem..ubuntu is sometimes a challenge
[20:33] <mbeierl> tomas_: in ~/.gvfs oddly enough
[20:33] <erUSUL> tomas_: ~/.gvfs/ <<< thwey are here
[20:33] <tomas_> mbeierl: thanks
[20:33] <erUSUL> tomas_: ~/.gvfs/ <<< they are here
[20:33] <tomas_> will have a loook
[20:34] <dick> sd32: yes it is, I think it's a learning curve issue.  One install works another doesn't, it's all fun and games, anyway!
[20:34] <tomas_> thanks erUSUL thanks mbeierl got it
[20:34] <tomas_> (:
[20:34] <hccmb> wiwich drivers would i need for an ati 9800?
[20:34] <catamarquence> compiz doesnt let my screensaver to start... any one having the same problem?
[20:34] <hccmb> and 3D
[20:35] <code> Jaunty, has broken gnome. Can a new gnome be installed by synaptic over existing one? Or by shell
[20:35] <aguitel> hccmb, go to system ---administration ---hardware drivers
[20:35] <furuno> hccmb : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide
[20:35] <furuno> hccmb : also work for Karmic
[20:36] <sd32> dick, if they would limit the adobe flash files in the repos i think it would make it easier
[20:37] <Pici> code: We need more information.  What does 'broken' mean?
[20:37] <catamarquence> guys no one has problems with compiz and xscreensaver? it starts and then stops by it self, i have intel x3100
[20:37] <code> Pici whats the name for gnome pkg? Is it ubuntu-desktop or is it gnome-x.x.x
[20:37] <Viking667> hccmb: xserver-xorg-video-fglrx, perhaps?
[20:37] <sd32> wel i might as well install it from the website eventhough it will screw up my system eventually
[20:37] <pronoy> Pici: won't dropping to command line and reinstalling ubuntu-desktop help ?
[20:37] <dick> sd32: it might just do that.  I'm still pretty new to this whole ubuntu/linux thing  but it keeps me learning new things
[20:37] <Pici> code: There are many gnome packages, it depends what exactly is failing.
[20:38] <Viking667> ... sorry if I have been late in replying - I'm just about to depart.
[20:38] <bigdaddy> can anyone help me with kopete
[20:38] <code> Pici It boots into jaunty with errors as follows:
[20:38] <aguitel> hccmb, if harware drivers don^t work use envyng
[20:38] <sd32> dick, its just frustrating when i knew how to install it and now i dont..
[20:39] <dick> sd32: one of the things about new releases, but we
[20:39] <furuno> !kubuntu | bigdaddy
[20:39] <code> Pici Warning unable to determine session. Unable to lookup session information.
[20:39] <ugur> hi all. I am trying to install lm-sensors but it says "no sensors detected". I was following this thread :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=244370
[20:39] <dick> sd32: will all get through it.  I wish I had by laptop up here so I could check the settings on it.  I'l do it anyway and see later.
[20:40] <tate_> Hey all, need some advice; I have a line-in on my sound card that has historically worked dandily; did a fresh install of 8.04 and while I can faintly hear the line-in audio, I can't seem to get it to play at an acceptable level no matter what alsamixer setting I tweak?
[20:40] <dick> sd32: I had another flash player installed and that didn't seem to work at all well, so went back to adobe.
[20:40] <tate_> Any advice?
[20:40] <code> Pici GLIB_CRITICAL 9_Propogate_error: assertion 'src != Null  FAILED
[20:41] <bigdaddy> furuno, ubottu, i have it with two computer both on front of me different yahoo messenger, but it keeps saying that their not available.
[20:41] <pronoy> !paste | code
[20:41] <Pici> code: 1) Don't tell me, tell the channel. 2) Use a pastebin and post the entire error
[20:41] <sd32> dick, makes me want to reinstall the whole darn thing, somethings messed up and i cant figure it out..grrr
[20:41] <furuno> bigdaddy : do you mean you cannot login?
[20:41] <sd32> dick, thanks for the help though
[20:42] <dick> sd32: sometimes the last alternative!  CYA
[20:42] <code> Pici Warning could not execute xrdb - nocpp merge
[20:42] <bigdaddy> furuno, no i have them both log in and set as available
[20:42] <dick> ex-chat
[20:42] <Cale> Does anyone happen to know how I might install the gnome volume control panel applet? I wouldn't mind recompiling a package if I could get back the ability to control my alsa volume settings from the panel in Karmic.
[20:43] <furuno> bigdaddy : try asking in #kubuntu instead, actually, I have allergies for KDE :)
[20:43] <pronoy> Cale: add notification area to panel
[20:43] <Cale> pronoy: I don't want pulseaudio since my headphones don't work with it.
[20:43] <bigdaddy> can anybody refer me to a better chat messenger that you can use webcam? i'm deployed in iraq and would really like to talk to my family
[20:43] <jcrawford> hey guys I am trying to activate NVIDIA version 185 driver but it keeps telling me i do not have access to do that
[20:43] <Pici> !nickspam > COROh
[20:43] <sd32> i have pclinuxos on another hard drive and it is not even close to this difficult and confusing
[20:43] <jcrawford> how can i launch the hardware drivers application using sudo?
[20:43] <Cale> pronoy: Also, that volume control didn't display anything but the master volume setting.
[20:44] <Phoenix2072> Furuno, still have same problem after reboot
[20:44] <jcrawford> anyone?
[20:44] <Cale> pronoy: (despite the fact that I have an audigy 2 with a few dozen volume settings)
[20:44] <jrib> jcrawford: jockey-gtk
[20:44] <furuno> Phoenix2072 : have you fix it with "compiz --replace" ?
[20:44] <TTilus> during the day my mediapc (running karmic) had put the monitor on suspend, but it did not wake up on keypress, switched sources DVI->VGA-DVI but it still went to suspend, ctrl-alt-f1 did not do anything, the box was fully functional otherwise, i logged in and found nothing interesting from logs, restarting gdm woke the monitor up -- now im wondering should i file a bug and if i should, against what package?
[20:44] <pronoy> Cale: sorry then no idea...
[20:44] <code> Pici Theres more but this gives you idea. Another one: Panel encounters problem loading. OAFID: GnomeFastUsersApplet
[20:45] <Phoenix2072> Furuno, did that twice, once before reboot, once after
[20:45] <jcrawford> ty jrib
[20:45] <furuno> Phoenix2072, but it keeps happening after reboot?
[20:45] <Phoenix2072> Furuno, yes
[20:45] <jrib> Cale: no, but I can tell you an alternative that I much prefer: setup some nice keybindings (I use shift+f1 and shift+f2 for volume up/down and shift+f3 for mute)
[20:45] <pronoy> Phoenix2072: ok seems that you might be running a gfx, try intalling emerald and then using emerald --replace, the emerald window decorator is better than compiz anyways
[20:45] <Phoenix2072> Furuno, any window I open is spawned maximized
[20:45] <catamarquence> we cant use xscreensaver with compiz???
[20:46] <Viking667> heh. I spotted that one after a long stop at screensave at the log in prompt for a kubuntu
[20:46] <furuno> Phoenix2072, can you give me a screenshot for your Window Decoration plugin settings?
[20:46] <code> Pici ok sorry just read your text about pastebin
[20:46] <pronoy> furuno: maybe he should use emerald..thats better
[20:46] <furuno> Phoenix2072, or maybe there's a wrong settings in the WIndows Rules plugin
[20:47] <furuno> furuno : or try pronoy suggestions :)
[20:47] <Cale> I suppose that might be an idea, if I can get it to work separately. I'll still miss having notification about my volume settings in the panel though. I don't see why they had to go and mess with this. :/
[20:47] <bigdaddy> what is the best chat messenger that you can use webcam?
[20:47] <mbeierl> pronoy: emerald is the decorator, compiz is the window manager - they work together...
[20:47] <ChrisiPK> hey everyone...is there a way to change ntfs permissions in ubuntu?
[20:47] <guntbert> !best | bigdaddy
[20:47] <erUSUL> ChrisiPK: change its mount options
[20:47] <pronoy> mbeierl: emerald i think has a window decorator plugin, i was suggesting using emerald as the window decorator
[20:48] <erUSUL> !emerald
[20:48] <ChrisiPK> erUSUL, no, i want the permissions to be changed on the device itself, not only for my current sessions
[20:48] <pronoy> mbeierl: sorry compiz has a window decorator
[20:48] <firdau5> hi
[20:48]  * firdau5 says good morning everybody
[20:48] <pronoy> mbeierl: compiz has a window decorator plugin, yes
[20:48] <furuno> !hi | firdau5
[20:48] <mbeierl> pronoy: I just wanted to make sure you knew that compiz uses either the gtk window decorator OR emerald.  compiz works with both.
[20:48] <erUSUL> ChrisiPK: i do not think ntfs-3g can manipulate widows ACL's / permissions
[20:49] <erUSUL> Windows (tm)
[20:49] <ChrisiPK> hmm okay thanks
[20:49] <pronoy> mbeierl: i do thanks :) but its good to see people are listening
[20:49] <mbeierl> pronoy: ok, hee hee...
[20:49] <Phoenix2072> Furuno, sending file
[20:49] <JamezQ> can i run something like ventrillo on ubuntu?
[20:49] <morph_> hello what is the command for see my active connection?
[20:50] <furuno> Phoenix2072, just upload to imageshack or something and give me the link :)
[20:50] <morph_> JamezQ, use teamspeak
[20:50] <mads-> morph_, I believe it's netstat
[20:50] <epinky> morph_: active connection?
[20:50] <furuno> morph_ netstat
[20:50] <morph_> netstat - a or e?
[20:50] <pronoy> JamezQ: you mean ventrilo ? the surround sound thingy ?
[20:51] <furuno> morph_ : I choose "netstat" without option
[20:51] <morph_> netstat dont give me infos
[20:51] <JamezQ> no just a program to talk to other people
[20:51] <JamezQ> teamspeak is one
[20:51] <pronoy> JamezQ: probably should take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41737 yeah surround sound comm software thingy i get it
[20:51] <Phoenix2072> Furuno, no clue what imageshack is, sorry
[20:52] <pronoy> Phoenix2072: its a place where you upload pics
[20:52] <cdE|Woozy> could anyone please confirm that evince is unable to open compressed pdfs? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/480270
[20:52] <google_> I need help resetting the root password
[20:52] <pronoy> Phoenix2072: www.imageshack.com
[20:52] <blankhead> how do you install ttf fonts in ubuntu 9.10
[20:52] <mbeierl> google_: there isn't one, but if you really want to: sudo passwd
[20:52] <guntbert> !root| google_
[20:52] <JamezQ> @pronoy hey thanks a lot
[20:52] <pronoy> blankhead: download the file to your desktop, open it and the installer option will be there
[20:52] <Phoenix2072> pronoy, link does not work
[20:53] <furuno> Phoenix2072, http://imageshack.us/
[20:53] <blankhead> okay pronoy i will try that
[20:53] <pronoy> Phoenix2072: yeah sorry its http://imageshack.us/
[20:53] <pronoy> blankhead: fonts are placed in /usr/share/fonts
[20:53] <rashed2020> Alright last question :P
[20:53] <blankhead> okay thanks
[20:53] <guntbert> !noroot | mbeierl you do know :-)
[20:53] <rashed2020> How big should / be? I have a pretty big drive so I can be generous.
[20:54] <google_> Ok so even if i use sudo im still getting a permission denied error
[20:54] <pronoy> blankhead: /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[20:54] <furuno> rashed2020 : I use 16 GB, but I suppose even 6 / 8 GB is enough
[20:54] <andyjb10> i'm getting an odd liveusb problem: it works fine for 5 minutes, then sound goes, touchpad goes and keyboard goes about 2 minutes after each other, shortly before crashing
[20:54] <h4f> Hi all. there were once ago aria (download manager) in ubuntu repos
[20:54] <blankhead> pronoy okay so i could just gksudo nautilus and drop them there? pronoy
[20:54] <google_> !root
[20:54] <furuno> rashed2020 : as long as you have a large enough storage for your data
[20:54] <pronoy> blankhead: it would be better to use the installer
[20:54] <pronoy> blankhead: i say that because i haven't tried the aforementioned way
[20:54] <_motti_> hi guys. Is there a podcast client native for kde 4?
[20:55] <blankhead> i have alot of fonts i woudlnt want to do this one by one pronoy any easier method?
[20:55] <mbeierl> -I hate it when this happens!  I just lost mouse focus again.  I can't click on anything - only the current window has focus and that's it - focus is gone - no alt-tab no mouse click nothing.  must restart X to get it back!?!
[20:55] <blankhead> pronoy okay
[20:55] <pronoy> blankhead: try with one
[20:55] <h4f> Hi all. there were once ago aria (download manager) in ubuntu repos
[20:55] <jrib> google_: so tell us what you are actually trying to do so we can help you
[20:55] <furuno> h4f : try aria2 instead
[20:56] <rashed2020> furuno: Do you think you'll ever fill up the 16gigs?
[20:56] <furuno> rashed2020 : I don't think so
[20:56] <blankhead> i tried with one pronoy and it worked fine thanks dude
[20:56] <odder> hello people, got a weird problem with OO.org on Ubuntu; the font I see on the panel has changed into an uglier one; how do I change it back?
[20:56] <furuno> rashed2020 : I don't install Crysis (or something like that) in Ubuntu :)
[20:56] <h4f> furuno: does it have gui ? or gui its install separately ?
[20:56] <furuno> h4f : it's a command line tool
[20:56] <google_> Im trying to install zlib library, and when I use "sudo ./configure; make; make install" I get a permission denied error.
[20:57] <pronoy> furuno: dude did you mention crysis ? were you able to install it ?
[20:57] <furuno> h4f : for GUI accelerated download manager, I recommend the Firefox's DownThemAll! extension
[20:57] <jrib> google_: why aren't you using APT?
[20:57] <furuno> pronoy : yes
[20:57] <h4f> furuno:  well its little headache to manage all your download from comand line.
[20:57] <furuno> pronoy : and play it at 32fps++
[20:57] <jrib> google_: actually, let me ask a better question.  Why do you want to install zlib?
[20:57] <Petein> hi. any packages for a sidebar in ubuntu?
[20:57] <swtaarrs> is there a way to disable the prompt sound at the karmic login screen?
[20:57] <pronoy> furuno: awesome ! i tried but failed
[20:57] <furuno> pronoy : in Win 7 :)
[20:57] <google_> jrib: im new to compiling and everything
[20:57] <pronoy> furuno: oh ! cmon ! thats like a swear word here :)
[20:57] <google_> I want to install zlib so that a certain IRC bot will install
[20:57] <jrib> google_: you don't generally want to compile things to install them on ubuntu.  Do you know about APT?
[20:57] <LexR> ola
[20:57] <jrib> google_: ... what irc bot?
[20:58] <_motti_> hi guys. Is there a podcast client native for kde 4?
[20:58] <google_> Voodoo-circle
[20:58] <LexR> !ntfs
[20:58] <firdau5> google-: file not found
[20:58] <firdau5> error 505
[20:58] <andyjb10> i'm getting an odd liveusb problem: it works fine for 5 minutes, then sound goes, touchpad goes and keyboard goes about 2 minutes after each other, shortly before crashing
[20:58] <pronoy> furuno: btw i was too, on win7, xp and vista :D
[20:58] <Minuo> google_: Your 2nd and third commands are getting run as your normal, the sudo command is only running on the ./configure
[20:58] <google_> Oh ok
[20:58] <trism> google_: you generally don't want to configure/compile as root, save that for the install
[20:59] <jrib> google_: you do not want to compile zlib.  Use a frontend to APT like Synaptic or aptitude
[20:59] <unimatrix> anyone know, is HDMI supposed to work with nvidia under ubuntu?
[20:59] <jrib> !apt > google_
[20:59] <arand> google_: should you do those commands do the separately, and you should also only nedd sudo on the last one, consider also replacing the last one with !checkinstall
[20:59] <gladio70> #ubuntu-it
[20:59] <trism> google_: jrib is right though, install zlib1g-dev instead
[21:00] <catamarquence> my screensaver starts and stops just as soon as it started... why?
[21:00] <LexR> !ntfs-3g
[21:00] <google_> ./configure; make; sudo make install
[21:00] <google_> would that work
[21:00] <jrib> google_: you are going to break your install.  Why are you ignoring the APT advice?
[21:00] <guntbert> google_: use the package from the repository
[21:00] <pronoy> google_ dude listen to the peeps, use APT
[21:00] <google_> Ok
[21:00] <MindSpark> hi, I am compiling a program and getting following error:
[21:00] <MindSpark> folder.c:32:30: error: libxml/xmlmemory.h: No such file or directory
[21:01] <MindSpark> I have the libxml2-dev package installed, what do I do ?
[21:01] <guntbert> !details | MindSpark
[21:01] <Phoenix2072> furuno, http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3714/phoenix.png
[21:01] <google_> sorry all this chatter is just confusing, so many people asking so many questions
[21:01] <arand> google_: probably would, but again, apt is the way to go, simpler, more orderly, can be uninstalled easily, more adapted to ubuntu, etc. etc.
[21:02] <MindSpark> guntbert, I am running Karmic and trying to compile a program called bluediving
[21:02] <Petein> any side bars for ubuntu?
[21:02] <Wolfcastle> hello
[21:02] <pronoy> Phoenix2072: you should switch to emerald bud
[21:02] <furuno> Phoenix2072 : check your Windows Rules plugin, make sure it is disabled
[21:02] <Wolfcastle> anyone else having problems with gnome-do?
[21:02] <pronoy> Petein: wuht ?
[21:02] <Wolfcastle> when starting up it starts using up all my cpu
[21:02] <Wolfcastle> have to restart it to make it work
[21:03] <Phoenix2072> furuno, not checked
[21:03] <guntbert> !compile | MindSpark:
[21:03] <andyjb10> i'm getting an odd LiveUSB problem: it works fine for 5 minutes, then sound goes, touchpad goes and keyboard goes about 2 minutes after each other, shortly before crashing - can i get help from here or would another channel be more useful (forums have returned no joy)
[21:03] <Xpistos> Can someone give me a hand? I was able to play avi files and the late yesterday and today i get an error message when I try
[21:03] <Phoenix2072> furuno, I mean it is disabled
[21:03] <Petein> pronoy: i want a side bar.that program like windows vista has an in most cases it has an analog clock running etc
[21:03] <MindSpark> guntbert, this is a specific problem, I am wondering why the file is not seen
[21:03] <MindSpark> can someone maybe help me on this ?
[21:03] <pronoy> Petein: ah you want widgets ! lulz
[21:03] <arand> google_: on ubuntu, you generally only compile things as a last resort, if they are not available through !repositories (using apt), or through a !ppa
[21:03] <Xpistos> Is there some sort of update in Karmic that would cause this?
[21:03] <google_> Ok
[21:03] <pronoy> Petein: search for widgets etc. screenlets
[21:04] <furuno> Phoneix2072 : a roundabout solution, but, go to System > Pref > Startup Apps, Click Add, type "compiz --replace" in the command and anything you like in name & desc (e.g. "fix for windows")
[21:04] <guntbert> MindSpark: *we* don't know *your* system, thats why I asked for more details..., the problem is probably in the install package...
[21:05] <jagjr> how can i get my wireless connection to reconnect if the modem gets switched off for a long period of time then it reconnects
[21:05] <Phoenix2072> furuno, I can do that but windows still come up maximized, all the restore does is get my cube working again
[21:05] <Wolfcastle> is universe repository official? can I file a bug report for software installed from universe?
[21:05] <jrib> Wolfcastle: yes
[21:05] <jrib> !bugs | Wolfcastle
[21:05] <Wolfcastle> thanx jrib
[21:05] <arand> MindSpark: and you can confirm the file is there?
[21:05] <MindSpark> guntbert, the system consists of a kernel, a compiler, a couple of dynamic libraries and source code
[21:05] <sergix> привет всем
[21:05] <LjL> !ru | sergix
[21:06] <MindSpark> guntbert, in our case only the package and the code is relevant
[21:06] <jagjr> is there a way to reconnect to a wireless network if you get disconnected?
[21:06] <prefrontal> how can I get my sound back to default, auto detect hardware and undo all settings, etc... some packages
[21:06] <jagjr> it must be automatically or without a user clicking
[21:06] <MindSpark> arand, where do I look ? can't find the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable
[21:06] <guntbert> MindSpark: sorry, I'm too tired for guessing games, please ask the channel
[21:06] <MindSpark> guntbert, thanks, that's what I already did
[21:06] <Take0n> in ubuntu where are the font files located?
[21:07] <jrib> Take0n: why?
[21:07] <Take0n> why why?
[21:07] <pronoy> Take0n: /usr/share/fonts
[21:07] <Take0n> I want to add more fonts :P
[21:07] <kfizz> For a custom keyboard shortcut to advance to the next audio track, does anyone know the command? I know for rhythmbox, I could use rhythmbox-client --next, but I need something more universal.
[21:07] <pronoy> Take0n: install em
[21:07] <jrib> Take0n: because there isn't a single location so it depends what you want to do.
[21:07] <tvjudge> Im am running Ubuntu Hardy in a Sun Virtual Box on my Ubuntu studio but i cannot seem to get resolution higher than 600x800 in the virtual box. Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated
[21:08] <Xpistos> Tempoe_: That isn't coming through
[21:08] <google_> also Im getting an error when updating
[21:08] <Take0n> I want to add fonts to use with conky but I want them to be in the same place as other font files so that I can use them with other apps as well
[21:08] <Sergeant_Pony> my nvidia graphics card is not recognised under vmware. can anyone help?
[21:08] <innomen> is there anyway to make a hard drive unaccessable to ubuntu?
[21:08] <jrib> Take0n: use ~/.fonts (create it)
[21:08] <arand> MindSpark: run " find / 2>/dev/null | grep xmlmemory.h "
[21:08] <jrib> !fonts > Take0n
[21:08] <innomen> something keeps making ti spin up and i'm tired of it
[21:08] <KDE4000> tvjudge you need to install virtualbox additions to the guest
[21:08] <Take0n> thanks :)
[21:09] <tvjudge> KED4000 is that installed in the virtual box app?
[21:09] <jagjr> exit
[21:09] <KDE4000> tvjudge, Devices -> Install guest additions
[21:09] <dylan_> does anyone know how to stop my resolv.conf file from switching back to default every time i restart?
[21:09] <saliak> innomen : hit it with a hammer
[21:09] <KDE4000> or install it via apt, you need to add the sources apt repo to your guest installation
[21:09] <arand> MindSpark: that would search your whole computer for the filename, and from the error there it seems that it should be located below your working dir as specified... (that's a guess though)
[21:09] <bobbyd> hi
[21:10] <jrib> dylan_: the usual kludge is to chattr the file so it isn't mutable, I don't know the "nice" way
[21:10] <tvjudge> KDE4000 cool thanks Ill try that
[21:10] <bobbyd> >	I made a mistake with the mysql configuration when installing roundcube under ubuntu, now I'm trying to get it to run the dbconfig thing again so I can set the mysql passwords correctly, but when I run dpkg-reconfigure roundcube, I get no output.
[21:10] <innomen> so its impossible to stop ubuntu from randomly access this drive for no reason
[21:10] <saliak> innomen : bury it 3 ft under ground.. even ubuntu can't reach it there!
[21:10] <dylan_> jrib: how do i do that?
[21:10] <bobbyd> I'm pulling my hair out over this, I just can't get it to reconfigure
[21:10] <jrib> dylan_: man chattr
[21:10] <kfizz> Is there anyway to have a keyboard shortcut (one of the ones already defined in Keyboard Shorcuts) to have two key combinations? i.e. the default one Ubuntu provides plus one I define?
[21:10] <code> Problems booting into Jaunty desktop. Errors/warnings: http://pastebin.com/m5b5fbcb1
[21:10] <MindSpark> arand, ok, thanks !
[21:10] <saliak> innomen : what if you took it out of your fstab?
[21:10] <sik_gerar> does anyone know where the xorg.conf is located on the new 9.10? i cant find it and i cannot configure my secondary gpu..
[21:10] <innomen> saliak, how does one do that?
[21:11] <innomen> its /dev/sdb
[21:11] <Xpistos> Can someone give me a hand? I was able to play avi files and the late yesterday and today i get an error message when I try
[21:11] <jrib> bobbyd: mysql documentation explains how to reset passwords or try #mysql if you need more help than what's in the documentation.  Is that what you want to do?
[21:11] <bobbyd> sik_gerar: there isn't one any more afaik
[21:11] <google_> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages  503 Service Unavailable
[21:11] <kfizz> Xpistos, what's the error message?
[21:11] <saliak> innomen : look at /etc/fstab.  i htink you can comment out what you don't want to use (so it won't mount it), but i'm not sure
[21:11] <bobbyd> jrib: I don't need to reset my sql password, I know what that is, I need to reconfigure roundcube
[21:11] <google_> I keep getting that error when updating
[21:11] <arand> google_: try a diff server
[21:11] <Scunizi> sik_gerar: I believe 9.10 doesn't actually build xorg.. xrandr is now used for video configuration.. However by placing a hand written xorg in the normal location (/etc/X11) you can override xrandr
[21:11] <innomen> saliak, the drive spins up and random even when unmounted
[21:11] <innomen> at*
[21:12] <sik_gerar> bobbyd: so how do i configure it? i have dual screen and i cannot manage to find a way to use both with both gpus.. and theyre both listed in lspci..
[21:12] <bobbyd> sik_gerar: you can create one though and add what you need, everything else is automatically configured afaik
[21:12] <saliak> innomen : oh, weird.  no idea then.
[21:12] <google_> I would arand but like i said Im new to this stuff
[21:12] <Xpistos> kfizz: It is different in Totem and VLC but VLC says "  p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  VLC does not support the audio or video format "XVID". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this."
[21:12] <Scunizi> sik_gerar: read up on xrandr and randr..
[21:12] <mgv1> how to boost microphone????????????????????'
[21:12] <arand> google_: through, software sources in admin menu "Download from"
[21:12] <bobbyd> sik_gerar: I think there's a nice way to do it by editing hal files
[21:12] <prefrontal> prefrontal, you can accomplish that by typing sudo aptitude --purge reinstall linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils linux-image-`uname -r` linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r` libasound2
[21:12] <prefrontal> thanks prefrontal
[21:12] <innomen> saliak, is there no way to uninstall it?
[21:12] <prefrontal> np
[21:12] <tvjudge> KDE4000 cant find that this is sun Virtual Box
[21:12] <dylan_> jrib: i'm not firmilair with that command could to tell the exact command to type before the file name?
[21:12] <jrib> bobbyd: oh, I misread.  Shouldn't there be a roundcube configuration file you can just edit?  If you really want to run the configure script, the easy way would be to purge and reinstall the package and all the dependencies it pulled in
[21:12] <kfizz> Xpistos, wsa THIS file you're trying to play now play correctly yesterday?
[21:12] <kfizz> was*
[21:13] <innomen> like in windows you could disable hardware
[21:13] <Xpistos> kfizz: yes
[21:13] <innomen> can ubuntu not do that?
[21:13] <jrib> dylan_: did you read its documentation?
[21:13] <sik_gerar> bobbyd: ok im reading about that thanks ill let you know
[21:13] <bobbyd> mgv1: open volume control->preferences->check mic boost, then you should have a tab with mic boost on it in the volume control
[21:13] <code> Problems booting into Jaunty desktop. Errors/warnings: http://pastebin.com/m5b5fbcb1
[21:13] <KDE4000> tvjudge, the on in the devices menu or in apt?
[21:13] <Xpistos> kfizz: I was having the problem two days ago resintalled and it corrected it.
[21:13] <AJIEXA> hi all
[21:13] <eeeeee> k nomaS
[21:13] <bobbyd> jrib: already purged and reinstalled
[21:13] <jrib> bobbyd: "and its dependencies"
[21:13] <google_> thanks arand
[21:14] <mgv1> bobbyd, THANK you
[21:14] <Xpistos> kfizz: Totem says An error occurred. Internal Data stream error
[21:14] <kfizz> Xpistos, you reinstalled VNC and it worked correctly?
[21:14] <dylan_> jrib: so i do " man chattr -e resolv.conf"?
[21:14] <Xpistos> kfizz: I reinstalled Ubuntu 9.10
[21:14] <jrib> dylan_: no, type " man chattr " and read
[21:14] <Xpistos> kfizz: Then it worked
[21:14] <mgv1> i removed the sun java but still see it in the control panel
[21:14] <mgv1> why???
[21:14] <dylan_> jrib: I did
[21:14] <tvjudge> KDE4000 thanks i found it
[21:14] <Phoenix2072> Does anybody know how to remove netbook remix on Karmic?
[21:15] <KDE4000> tvjudge, np
[21:15] <mgv1> where is the ubuntu one apllication?
[21:15] <Scunizi> mgv1: http://one.ubuntu.com
[21:15] <mgv1> Scunizi, it should be included in ubuntu and i dont find it
[21:16] <jrib> dylan_: there isn't even a -e switch.... "read" means "read and understand".  I'm asking you to do this because this is not the nice way.  This is the kludge way, so you need to understand what you are doing and remember you did it so in a couple of weeks you aren't back here wondering why you can't edit resolv.conf
[21:16] <kfizz> Xpistos, hm, that' interesting. Do you have the restricted formats installed?
[21:16] <kfizz> Xpistos, like from the instructions on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[21:16] <Scunizi> mgv1: not sure.... I'm still running 9.04 in a vm..
[21:16] <Xpistos> kfizz: ubuntu-restricted-extras YEs
[21:16] <mgv1> bobbyd, i dont find the microphone boost there
[21:17] <mgv1> what is vm Scunizi ?
[21:17] <arand> mgv1: package to install is "ubuntuone-client"
[21:17] <Scunizi> mgv1: virtual machine.. I'm on my work xp box.. they don't like me to install linux on it so I run it in a virtual machine :)
[21:17] <mgv1> and also  - there is another way to check if my drive is encrypted fully???
[21:18] <code> Probs booting Jaunty desktop. Errors/warnings: http://pastebin.com/m5b5fbcb1 Should i install new desktop
[21:18] <mgv1> arand, what is this package?
[21:18] <sik_gerar> bobbyd: there is still a xorg.conf, maybe installed by ati propietary, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:18] <arand> mgv1: if using jaunty you need to add the repo by installing the deb given on the ubuntu one site.
[21:18] <kfizz> Xpistos, try running vlc from the command line and see if the output puts out any more helpful info.
[21:18] <sik_gerar> but it just displays info about one of the screens
[21:19] <mgv1> arand,no jaunty
[21:19] <Xpistos> vlc filename?
[21:19] <kfizz> Xpistos, yes
[21:19] <Scunizi> code: from the shell it drops you into try reinstalling just the desktop with ... sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:19] <dj_> hey guys how can i donwload videos from sites i visite
[21:19] <Zer> Is ConsoleKit necessary? I'm accessing the machine remotely. As far as I can tell it's somehow related to Fast User Switching, which doesn't apply to this sort of thing
[21:19]  * Cale tries recompiling gnome-applets to see if he can get a volume control applet that works
[21:19] <jrib> code: what in the world did you pastebin?  Why are you doing that?
[21:19] <bobbyd> sik_gerar: ok then :)
[21:19] <dj_> hey guys how can i donwload videos from sites i visite  do i need firefox video downloader
[21:19] <arand> mgv1: go to ubuntu one page, follow installation instruction there.
[21:20] <Xpistos> kfizz: Didn't work same issue. i get sound in VLC but no video
[21:20] <jrib> dj_: try keepvid.com
[21:20] <mgv1> arand, for what?
[21:20] <MFawzy> guys ... after upgrading to karmic every thing got very slow ... even the screen saver works really slow :( any ideas ?
[21:20] <Xpistos> kfizz: avcodec decoder error: cannot open codec (MPEG-4 Video)
[21:20] <kfizz> Okay, I'm thinking it has to do with the video codec.
[21:20] <Xpistos> kfizz: main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `XVID'.
[21:20] <Xpistos> VLC probably does not support this sound or video format.
[21:20] <tvjudge> KDE4000 very cool now whjen i maximize the window the ubuntu desktop expans to fill my second screen
[21:20] <kfizz> Xpistos, is this avi file an xcid file
[21:20] <bobbyd> mgv1: actually it's a slider in the "playback" tab for me for some reaon
[21:20] <code> Scunizi would this overwrite existing broken desktop?
[21:20] <Xpistos> kfizz: .avi
[21:21] <Xpistos> kfizz: In totem it will not play at all
[21:21] <foo> Karmic = latest stable, right?
[21:21] <jrib> foo: yes
[21:21] <kfizz> Xpistos, is it a large file? If it's nothing personal perhaps you can send me the file so I can see if it plays on my comp.
[21:21] <arand> mgv1: ubuntu one, https://one.ubuntu.com/support/installation/
[21:21] <Scunizi> code: should.. could be the install just missed something.. this is a way of _possibly_ correcting it.
[21:21] <foo> jrib: thanks, can someone have the bot shoot a factoid at me for upgrading frmo jaunty?
[21:21] <bobbyd> MFawzy: open system monitor and check what's using your CPU
[21:21] <jrib> foo: /msg ubottu upgrade
[21:21] <mgv1> arand, aha - but it isnt included?
[21:21] <MFawzy> XORG most
[21:21] <foo> thanks jrib
[21:22] <arand> mgv1: only in karmic
[21:22] <Xpistos> kfizz: Okay that is interesting. I have SMPlayer installed and it will play in that
[21:22] <code> Scunizi thanks, trying it. Booting out of vista into jaunt.
[21:22] <Scunizi> code: k.. you should learn irssi for cli irc access
[21:22] <foo> Are all SATA drives hot swappable?
[21:22] <Xpistos> kfizz: It isn't the file I am having trouble with different video formats it is just an episode of big Bang therory
[21:22] <mgv1> arand, im in it
[21:23] <kfizz> Xpistos, I'm pretty sure it comes down to the xvid codec not working in totem and vlc. I'm not sure what SMplayer uses to play audio/video.
[21:23] <mgv1> bobbyd, thank you very much - now the microphne working
[21:23] <mgv1> bobbyd, im thrilled
[21:23] <FirstAsurann> Anyone have any idea why HDMI wouldn't work with Nvidia Quadro NVS 320M? VGA works fine but can't get HDMI to work...
[21:24] <Scunizi> FirstAsurann: are you using the nvidia drivers supplied by ubuntu or did you get them directly from nvidia?
[21:24] <kfizz> Xpistos, open up vlc, go to tools , prefs, video, output and try changing the output to X11
[21:24] <FirstAsurann> using the one supplied by Ubuntu
[21:25] <mgv1> how do i disable firefox from searching google C***?
[21:25] <ANTRat> foo: according to standards sata is only hot swappable if the host is in AHCI mode
[21:25] <foo> ANTRat: ah, tahnks
[21:25] <Scunizi> FirstAsurann: you should check out nvidia's linux forum and see what's mentioned about hdmi and ubuntu or linux in general.. you might find that the newer drivers make it work.. there may also be something that you have to augment in the current non-existant xorg.conf to enable hdmi
[21:25] <skfscotlad> Has anyone else been having problems with the facebook chat plugin with empathy in Karmic??
[21:26] <alazyworkaholic1> Is there a good wi-fi enabled ~pocket-sized device that can run skype/gizmo5/ekiga & web surf that works well with ubuntu? (so not the iphone)
[21:26] <enrico_> ciao
[21:26] <coz_> enrico_,   slave
[21:26] <coz_> salve
[21:26] <Xpistos> kfizz: No go with that
[21:26] <coz_> enrico_,  salve
[21:26] <Scunizi> alazyworkaholic1: you mean like a dlink usb wifi adaptor?
[21:26] <andyjb10> i'm getting an odd LiveUSB problem: it works fine for 5 minutes, then sound goes, touchpad goes and keyboard goes about 2 minutes after each other, shortly before crashing - can i get help from here or would another channel be more useful (forums have returned no joy)
[21:26] <kfizz> skfscotlad, I've had trouble with the facebook chat plugin in period, haha. In pidgin it works more or less, but signs you out of facebook multiple times.
[21:26] <enrico_> come si installano i driver della scheda ati 9600xt su ubuntu 9.10?
[21:27] <Scunizi> !es | enrico_
[21:27] <mgv1> how do i install sip on emphaty?
[21:28] <mgv1> what version of skype is good to install????
[21:28] <enrico_> ok hello sorry
[21:28] <Scunizi> mgv1: are you going to connect to a business sip server (IP-PBX) or just a service like gizmo, ekiga etc.?
[21:28] <mgv1> Scunizi, ekiga
[21:29] <Zee> I have an error message saying "Desktop effect could not be enabled" can anyone help me?
[21:29] <Scunizi> mgv1: not sure on empathy.. but the ekiga client is nice and does video as well.. it also has versions for windows friends.
[21:29] <alazyworkaholic1> Scunizi: no, something ~iphone, but that works with linux & isn't Apple. I was looking at the archos 5, 7 because they're supposed to run a linux based os, but I haven't seen that they'll take mic input or run voip. Does you have any idea what devices ubuntu MID runs on?
[21:29] <Scunizi> alazyworkaholic1: nope sorry..
[21:29] <alazyworkaholic1> Scunizi: actually, ~ iPod Touch. I don't want a cellphone.
[21:29] <mgv1> Scunizi, how do i make it start on startup?
[21:30] <majuk> Hi all. I was setting up Samba and I am now unable to log into the box at all. I only get "Ubuntu v9.0.4 tlpserv tty1" and another log in prompt.
[21:30] <Scunizi> mgv1: ekiga?  add it to services... System>Admin>services.. (if the menu hasn't changed too much with 9.10)
[21:30] <Assok> hi
[21:30] <Assok> Assok> hi how can i make startx , begin by default?
[21:31] <Assok>  23:29:39 | <Assok> when i try to login , x restarts and i get back to login
[21:31] <Assok>  23:29:47 | ¬ maco (n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw) quits: [Read error: 113 (No route to host)]
[21:31] <Assok>  23:29:53 | <Assok> i can only have gui if i try console login and then type startx
[21:31] <FloodBot3> Assok: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <pretender_> using empathy to google talk to friends and when i they talk i can hear them but when i talk if they were talking there voice mutes out.  cant talk at the same time and hear each other
[21:31] <Zee> i got an error message saying desktop effect could not be enabled?
[21:31] <alazyworkaholic1> Does ubuntu MID actually run on anything?
[21:31] <mgv1> Scunizi, i dont know how to find it in my language
[21:31] <Scunizi> Zee: you don't have the right video driver installed.
[21:32] <Scunizi> mgv1: me either.
[21:32] <bobbyd> mgv1: np :)
[21:32] <Zee> Scunizi: HOw do i install it? can you help me?
[21:32] <Scunizi> Zee: what kind of card?
[21:32] <Zee> scunizi: via
[21:33] <Scunizi> Zee: sorry I don't know anything about the via cards.. someone else will have to help with that one.
[21:33] <Zee> scunizi: ok thanks anyway
[21:33] <Zee> its a via chrome 9
[21:34] <coz_> Zee,  did you find the driver for that?
[21:34] <Zee> No i need it
[21:34] <kfizz> Xpistos, I've been looking around some, but can't find anything helpful. You might just have to stick in SMPlayer for now :(
[21:34] <Zee> coz_: did you?
[21:34] <ibmx61> hi,good morning
[21:34] <coz_> Zee,  I dont think there is a decent 3d driver but there is a deb pacakge for a driver
[21:34] <coz_> Zee,  let me see if i can find that link
[21:35] <Zee> coz_, someone posted a video on youtube and there ubuntu works perfectly fine
[21:35] <Zee> coz_: whats the deb package?
[21:35] <kfizz> Xpistos, you also might try #videolan
[21:35] <ibmx61> ibmx61 form china say good morning to everybody
[21:36]  * Scunizi heee's baaaack
[21:36] <KiNG__> ni hao ibmx61
[21:36] <Assok> HI
[21:36] <majuk> SSH sessions are terminated as soon as they are established.... 2 weeks down the drain. This is impossible.
[21:36] <ibmx61> hoh ,morning
[21:36] <Assok> i can only have  gui with , console login and startx command
[21:36] <Assok> help
[21:37] <jcdutton> majuk, what ?
[21:37] <Phoenix2072> Can someone help me, my Compiz settings are being overridden by another program and I am not sure how to fix it or what other program it is
[21:37] <ibmx61> who is adminstrator here? i dont know
[21:37] <soreau> Phoenix2072: What settings exactly?
[21:37] <majuk> jcdutton, I am totally unable to log into my box after making a change to smb.conf
[21:37] <coz_> Zee,   sorry  hold on
[21:38] <Zee> coz_: :)
[21:38] <majuk> jcdutton, I can only get a usable command line via recovery boot
[21:38] <Phoenix2072> soreau : the windows settings, every window is coming up maximized
[21:38] <jcdutton> majuk, smb.conf should not affect loging
[21:38] <soreau> Phoenix2072: Are compiz effects all working other than that?
[21:38] <majuk> jcdutton, Tell me about it.
[21:38] <Vinky> have anyone else been haunted be segm.fault when rightclicking bookmarks in firefox lately?
[21:39] <DonaldShimoda> anybody have problems with flash on 9.10 on 64 bits?
[21:39] <jcdutton> majuk, something else is the problem.
[21:39] <Phoenix2072> soreau, and all the other settings have to be reset by running compiz --restore , but definitely windows maximizing is the biggie
[21:39] <jcdutton> majuk, what port is ssh listening on?
[21:39] <Dravekx> how do I move a directory?
[21:39] <Dravekx> jcdutton, 22
[21:39] <DonaldShimoda> flashplayer sucks
[21:39] <ibmx61> is this xchat like a qq group?
[21:39] <Xpistos> kfizz: Now that I know that is working it is not as urgent. I appreciate the help
[21:39] <darpax> Dravekx: using what? Nautilus or shell?
[21:40] <soreau> Phoenix2072: You should reset your settings by going into ccsm>Preferences and clicking Reset to Defaults
[21:40] <majuk> jcdutton, The last few things I did was change the ownership of /home/samba/profiles and execute " net groupmap list"
[21:40] <Dravekx> darpax, ssh login with putty
[21:40] <MaT-dg> DonaldShimoda: if you mean that clicking on flashcontent doesn't always work.. then yes
[21:40] <darpax> Dravekx: mv <dir> <path to new location>
[21:40] <Dravekx> i have dir/dir/info ... I need it to be dir/info
[21:40] <jcdutton> majuk, telnet to port 22, what do you get back?
[21:40] <Dravekx> k :) thanks
[21:40] <Phoenix2072> soreau, ok, will try that, could it be another program, I tried netbook remix and am not sure it is properly uninstalled
[21:40] <arand> DonaldShimoda: flash has always inhaled forcfully, are you using the adobe labs prerelease?
[21:40] <Veinor> has anybody managed to resolve the issues with the wireless cards using ath9k drivers being incredibly intermittent?
[21:40] <darpax> Dravekx: mv dir/dir/info dir/
[21:40] <majuk> jcdutton, Connect refuse
[21:41] <tox007> ciao
[21:41] <majuk> jcdutton, I have Telnet connects disabled.
[21:41] <soreau> Phoenix2072: Well if that does not work, come to #compiz and I will help you further
[21:41] <Dravekx> darpax, does that move all files and subs with files?
[21:41] <Phoenix2072> soreau: kewl, will do
[21:41] <sfv> i need help
[21:41] <jcdutton> majuk, telnet hostname 22
[21:41] <sfv> anyone can tell me why  # /usr/bin/svnserve -t -r /var/svn --tunnel-user=bob
[21:41] <sfv> ( success ( 2 2 ( ) ( edit-pipeline svndiff1 absent-entries commit-revprops depth log-revprops partial-replay ) ) )
[21:41] <sfv> ^C
[21:41] <sfv> is happening?
[21:41] <darpax> Dravekx: if moving the directory, then it will move everything within that directory
[21:41] <jcdutton> majuk, it should return something like
[21:41] <FloodBot3> sfv: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:41] <coz_> Zee,   I am not findign the deb package although i know it is out there I used it once  however I did find these   http://www.openchrome.org/trac/wiki/Installation
[21:42] <jcdutton> SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.1
[21:42] <Zee> coz_: okie dokie
[21:42] <majuk> jcdutton, telnet: could not resolve tlpserv/22: Name or service not known
[21:42] <arand> !flash64 | DonaldShimoda
[21:42] <mgv1> http://yfrog.com/2m39081162p what does that means in evolution?
[21:42] <sfv> http://pastebin.ca/1665483 <-- anyone can tell me why this is happening?
[21:42] <coz_> Zee,  unfortunately  open chrome is not ...to my knowledge. going to make a 3c accelerated driver
[21:42] <jcdutton> majuk, is the hostname tlpserv
[21:43] <DonaldShimoda> MaT-dg, yes i mind that... but that work fine on 9.04!
[21:43] <coz_> Zee,   that means no fancy  3d stuff or compiz
[21:43] <DonaldShimoda> MaT-dg, is just a regresion
[21:43] <jcdutton> majuk,  why is there a / in there?
[21:43] <mchomer> Hello guys :)
[21:43] <DonaldShimoda> arand, thanks, i will try
[21:43] <majuk> jcdutton, There we go, it reported a protocol mismath
[21:43] <majuk> mismatch
[21:43] <Zee> coz_: i have the same laptop as this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8osNBcu6ko
[21:43] <MaT-dg> DonaldShimoda: it's a bug and is already reported. There's a workarround and a possible solution
[21:43] <jcdutton> majuk, try using ip address instead
[21:44] <coz_> Zee,   i have heard of this before  so apparenlty it is possible  what you could do is try to contact that fellow that put that video up on yourube
[21:44] <coz_> youtube
[21:44] <Zee> coz_: lol yep thats what im trying
[21:44] <andyjb10> i'm getting an odd LiveUSB problem: it works fine for 5 minutes, then sound goes, touchpad goes and keyboard goes about 2 minutes after each other, shortly before crashing - can i get help from here or would another channel be more useful? (forums have returned no joy)
[21:44] <coz_> Zee,  i am still looking though
[21:44] <Zee> coz_: thanks :)
[21:44] <DonaldShimoda> MaT-dg, can you point me there?
[21:44] <majuk> jcdutton, Yea, it reported a protocol mismatch. http://pastebin.com/m6d7c859b
[21:45] <Zee> zulfi: ?
[21:45] <coz_> Zee,   i also found this but it is older   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[21:45] <Dravekx> darpax, it says they are the same file
[21:45] <sik_gerar> bobbyd: any othe way to config a secondary display on a secondary gpu but to config xorg.conf by hand?
[21:46] <zulfi> dose anyone now  how to remove thing form the commend line its sudo something
[21:46] <jcdutton> majuk, ok, that is good. try ssh username@192.168.0.16
[21:46] <darpax> Dravekx: it should work as long as the paths are different, this sounds like you are running a path from and to itself
[21:46] <majuk> jcdutton, I get a login and then instantly disconnected
[21:46] <Zee> coz_: i did come across that before, but i what i am exactly to do with it
[21:46] <bobbyd> sik_gerar: have an nvidia card and use their control panel?
[21:46] <darpax> zulfi: remove what exactly?
[21:46] <bobbyd> sik_gerar: I don't have any experience of that, I'm sorry
[21:47] <sveaeee> hi, i have a huge problem on ubuntu. for some reason I cannot connect to port 80 (outbound) every other port seems to be working, ssh/telnet/ftp etc  (I'm trying using telnet, wget, lynx, firefox) and ofcourse it works from other computers in my network.
[21:47] <majuk> jcdutton, http://pastebin.com/m7f3b59b8
[21:47] <sik_gerar> ati rv570 and rv770, using ati propietary, cant run the administrative tool, just the other one, returns an error on something not installed
[21:47] <sveaeee> what could possibly be wrong? I'm on jaunty
[21:47] <MaT-dg> DonaldShimoda: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/434050
[21:47] <sik_gerar> it sucks so much
[21:48] <majuk> jcdutton, Same thing with local logins.
[21:48] <zulfi> i just need to now how to remove program on the commend bar i just need the its starts with sudo something
[21:48] <darpax> sudo apt-get remove <package_name)
[21:48] <jcdutton> majuk, anything in the destination's /var/log
[21:48] <darpax> zulfi: sudo apt-get remove <package_name>
[21:48] <Ioneye> is there any way i can see how much i use from my graphic card?
[21:48] <Ioneye> how much memory*
[21:48] <majuk> jcdutton, Nothing that stands out. Lemme get in as root to look again, sec
[21:48] <zulfi> think you thats what i needed
[21:48] <Dravekx> darpax, cannot move.. directory not empty :(
[21:49] <jcdutton> majuk, is the destination's home directory exist and have the correct access rights
[21:49] <Dravekx> whats the command? -t ?
[21:49] <lightpriest> i'm trying to configure X to receive connections on some port, anyone with a fast solution?
[21:49] <jcdutton> majuk, grep username /etc/passwd
[21:49] <darpax> Dravekx: sorry i cant help, sounds like a weird setup or you maybe have a process running in that directory or something
[21:49] <Zee> zulfi: do you know gz
[21:49] <jcdutton> majuk, should show you the home directory
[21:49] <kane77> what is some graphing software? (I know I can make graphs in OO.o, but I heard about specialized software and I can't remember name)
[21:49] <mib_mib> hey guys, how can i run the normal update manager from the command line?
[21:50] <mib_mib> like over ssh or something
[21:50] <zulfi> no
[21:50] <mgv1> why sun doesnt gets removed completly?
[21:50] <xiong> How is Koala working out for people on chan?
[21:50] <Veinor> mib_mib: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:50] <Zee> zulfi: ok
[21:50] <majuk> jcdutton, Yea, his /home dir exists and he owns it
[21:51] <jcdutton> majuk, did /var/log/auth.log give anything useful?
[21:51] <jcdutton> majuk, do any other users work ?
[21:51] <majuk> jcdutton, Nope, only shows the two bad protocol logins from trying to use telnet
[21:52] <bastidrazor> Zee: double click the file and extract it then you're going to need to read the !compile factoid.
[21:52] <majuk> jcdutton, This is the only user on the system thus far. I only just started to get this humming. :-\
[21:52] <jcdutton> majuk, which auth type are you using for ssh ?
[21:52] <sik_gerar> bobbyd: thanks for the help ill have a look other day, i just cant afford losing more time on this. much appreciated ;)
[21:53] <losha> mib_mib: no reason why not. sudo /usr/bin/update-manager
[21:53] <majuk> jcdutton, ....not sure what you mean. It's using RSA keys...
[21:53] <Ioneye> Is there any way i can see how much memory my graphic card uses?
[21:53] <majuk> jcdutton, But local logins for this user don't work either
[21:53] <sveaeee> is there some strange firewall in ubuntu that could be the bad guy preventing outbound connections?
[21:53] <lightpriest> i'm trying to configure X to receive connections on some port, anyone with a fast solution?
[21:53] <sveaeee> I haven
[21:53] <Sp0nS> eloo
[21:54] <jcdutton> majuk, Try manually adding a new user, and try that
[21:54] <Cale> Ack! The Karmic upgrade killed my Japanese input support and replaced it with Russian!
[21:54] <sveaeee> 't configured any firewall, it's almost a fresh install, just a couple of weeks old. and it worked before, have been using the box as a htpc so im not sure when it stopped working
[21:54] <Cale> It managed to completely uninstall scim-anthy... oh well, guess I'll put that back.
[21:55] <paman> Hi all
[21:55] <majuk> jcdutton, Yea, I just did, and when I tried to set its password (passwd $USER) it just kicked me down to the next prompt.
[21:55] <pokui> hi all, does the  text mode install allow for resizing a windows partition easily? trying to guide someone over the phone
[21:55] <Zee> bastidrazor: whats the !compile factoid?
[21:55] <bastidrazor> !compile > Zee
[21:55] <eternal_p> n #linuxhelp
[21:55] <Cale> I wonder if I install Sanscrit whether I'll get my Japanese support back ;)
[21:56] <jcdutton> majuk, ok, this is not an ssh problem at all. it is an auth problem.
[21:56] <mgv1> when im moving over some links the curser blinks between text and link mode - - whhhhyyyyyyyy????????
[21:56] <majuk> jcdutton, Yea
[21:56] <kahen> so... flash sometimes stops outputting sound for seemingly no reason. i can play some youtube videos and it works fine, then come back later after doing other stuff and every once in a while flash doesn't output any sound any more. this is a fresh install btw
[21:56] <Zee> bastidrazor: how do i compile?
[21:56] <Priswell> I was attempting to switch windows in irssi using Alt + Number and I must have hit a different key combination, because now my desktop is magnifed several times and the magnification follows my mouse around. Does anyone know what key combination (besides Ctrl + Alt + Backspace) that will set things back to normal?
[21:57] <jab06y> Hello again, I hope this is an easy question to answer. Im trying to add "export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=true" to a custom launcher for xbmc but have yet to find a way to do it. The gksudo works but i lose permission to my files. Anyone know where this .profiles is or what i need to edit?
[21:57] <bastidrazor> Zee: that factoid tells you how. follow the link
[21:57] <MaT-dg> kahen: have that to sometimes, restarting FF should worl
[21:57] <MaT-dg> work*
[21:58] <bastidrazor> Zee: also read the README file in the tar.gz you untar'ed just now
[21:58] <jcdutton> majuk, what is the "passwd -S" for that user. "passwd -Sa" might also help find it
[21:58] <kahen> MaT-dg: yeah well... i figured that out too. but that's just effing pathetic
[21:59] <kahen> NEVER had this problem with jaunty. and i was running PA then too
[21:59] <pompato> Hello everybody
[21:59] <pompato> I have a question about C on ubuntu, should I go to the C channel?
[21:59] <MaT-dg> kahen: probably bug in flashplugin, nothing ubuntu can do about it
[21:59] <pompato> it's an easy one. I include stdlib.h but can't find atoi, atol , itoa ...
[22:00] <majuk> jcdutton, $USER P 10/29/2009 0 99999 7 -1
[22:00] <jcdutton> majuk, that looks good
[22:00] <iCEAGE> Hello all. I want a free dynamic ssh server to bypass filtering. Even I can't connect to launchpad. I'm using ubuntu karmic. somebody help me
[22:00] <Pulga> i want som help with my ubuntu's upgrade.... the programs are closing during execution....
[22:01] <majuk> jcdutton, I su'd to the user from root and tried to change the password with 'passwd', it asked me for the current PW which I typed in and then it just kicked me down to a new prompt. Didn't ask me for the new password
[22:01] <majuk> I seriously borked something here. :(
[22:01] <deadvirus> Hey
[22:01] <Pulga> and windows too
[22:01] <jcdutton> majuk, anything in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages ?
[22:02] <jcdutton> majuk, looks to me that pam is upset
[22:02] <MaT-dg> kahen: If I leave a webpage with flashcontent open for a while the plugin just crashes and shows a gray area almost every time. Again, it's the plugins fault. That's why most of us aren't happy with closed-source flash(plugin)
[22:02] <deadvirus> In ubuntu 8.04, everytime the screensaver starts or stops it sends a message to D-Bus... why in 9.10 it does not? I was usefull to me, to do some stuff =/
[22:02] <pompato> I NEAD
[22:02] <pompato> :D
[22:03] <pompato> can someone read me?
[22:03] <jcdutton> majuk, does rool login work ?
[22:03] <jcdutton> majuk, root
[22:03] <admiral> Hi, I have a fresh & clean Karmic install and a variety of apps just keep locking up every now and then. No response to Ctrl+C. "ps" is one of those. What can I do?
[22:03] <majuk> jcdutton, Root login works from the recovery console, that's where I am now
[22:03] <igsen> !amd64
[22:04] <deadvirus> anyone?
[22:04] <jcdutton> majuk, does /etc/nologin exist
[22:04] <majuk> jcdutton, Negative
[22:04] <awilkins> Where's the best place to discuss adding a package (well, 32-bit compatibility package for arch amd64)?
[22:05] <jcdutton> majuk, I have to go now, sorry I could not fix it. I suspect /etc/pam.d config of a current lib somewhere
[22:05] <jcdutton> s/of/or
[22:05] <majuk> jcdutton, Thanks for the hand, I'll look around and see what I can find
[22:05] <pompato> can someone read my bytes?
[22:05] <pompato> I'm sending bytes
[22:05] <pompato> right here
[22:06] <infid> arent most packages just for 32bit though?
[22:06] <admiral> pompato: I can :)
[22:06] <Priswell> I was attempting to switch windows in irssi (Ubuntu 8.10, gnome)  using Alt + Number and I must have hit a different key combination, because now my desktop is magnifed several times and the magnification follows my mouse around. Does anyone know what key combination (besides Ctrl + Alt + Backspace) that will set things back to normal?
[22:06] <pompato> admiral did you read my question?
[22:06] <Blehk> Does anyone know how to use keychain?
[22:06] <admiral> pompato: which one?
[22:06] <infid> Priswell you can switch windows in irssi with ctrl+n and /window #
[22:07] <Zee> im trying to install this driver tar zxvf ./5.74.33.85a-44597.tar.gz but it says no such directory
[22:07] <MaT-dg> infid: don't have problems with 64bit packages..
[22:07] <VCoolio> hello everyone; is there a folder where I can store custom icons? like if I have an app / filetype and I want a specific icon for that? I can put it in the icon theme of course, but when I switch themes it's gone
[22:07] <pompato> adminal Im including stdlib.h but cant get atoi
[22:07] <Blehk> Basically, I have it started, sees both my keys, finds ssh-agent, but doesn't seem to be using them when I ssh to a server.
[22:07] <pompato> adminal
[22:07] <pompato> admiral
[22:07] <Priswell> infid: Yes I can switch windows that way.
[22:07] <lnl> hello
[22:07] <greezmunkey> heh showing off this laptop at work :)
[22:08] <lnl> hi
[22:08] <infid> how do you install the man pages for the C standard library
[22:08] <Priswell> infid: It's just that everything is hugely magnified, and the focus follows the mouse.
[22:08] <admiral> pompato, hm I don't know either because I'm just another user in need of help, and part of my problem is that, among others, firefox keeps locking up so I can't look it up :)
[22:08] <erUSUL> Priswell: window key + 1  ??
[22:08] <admiral> but I'll be sure to tell you when I find it
[22:09] <jac0b> I am having problems with 9.10 I have just noticed I have no sound
[22:09] <deadvirus> SOLVED :D
[22:09] <Priswell> Ah! That worked! Things look a little smaller than normal, but maybe that's because I've been "living large" for so long. <g>
[22:09] <ZykoticK9> jac0b, just for my own info - did you upgrade your system to 9.10, or fresh install?
[22:10] <Priswell> Thank you, infid
[22:10] <jac0b> fresh install
[22:10] <jac0b> I have the ALC889A
[22:10] <ZykoticK9> jac0b, that's kinda unusual then - typically it seem people who upgrade have that same issue with 9.10.
[22:10] <arand> jac0b: have a look at http://drowninginbugs.blogspot.com/2009/10/caveats-for-audio-in-910.html and http://unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/525-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu910-karmic-koala
[22:10] <cosmic> hello all. how can i configure kubuntu so it uses V4L instead of V4L2? i have an application that wont let me use v4l2, only v4l. thank u
[22:11] <aendruk> Hello all. I just installed Karmic via USB but the system only boots into Memtest86. Any idea what happened?
[22:11] <wrektjet> hey guys does anyone know the command to reset the resolution? my screen switched to 800x600 and i can only see part at a time
[22:11] <wrektjet> i shud add themenus arent working either
[22:11] <fbianconi> pompato: The atoi function has been deprecated by strtol and should not be used in new code
[22:11] <zedster> my intel 3945 wifi stopped working, It shows up in lshw but not in ifconfig or iwconfig
[22:11] <arand> ZykoticK9: that is the "grub fails to use the new kernel issue" Which only seems to be one part of the whole karmic sound kafuffle
[22:12] <fbianconi> pompato: http://www.codecogs.com/reference/c/stdlib.h/atoi.php
[22:12] <aendruk> ZykoticK9: Is there a bug report you can point me to?
[22:13] <ZykoticK9> arand, thanks.  i've just noticed the constant stream of people with sound problems after upgrading (i fresh installed and had zero hardware issues with karmic).
[22:13] <corinth> Which is faster and which has better codec support from vanilla? mplayer or VLC?
[22:13] <corinth> *gnome-mplayer, that is.
[22:13] <aendruk> ZykoticK9: Sorry, please disregard that.
[22:13] <jrib> corinth: try both and use what you like.  They're pretty comparable
[22:13] <zedster> anyone have wifi issues after the upgrade that came out today?
[22:14] <wrektjet> is there a terminal command that is equivelant to ctrl+alt+bckspce
[22:14] <emilio> hello
[22:14] <jrib> wrektjet: sudo service gdm restart
[22:14] <corinth> Pretty comparable as far as codec support goes, too, jrib ?
[22:14] <ZykoticK9> aendruk, if i knew of one i would have certainly forwarding the info to you :)
[22:14] <emilio> im new
[22:14] <jrib> corinth: yeah
[22:14] <corinth> Thanks, jrib .
[22:14] <arand> ZykoticK9: the link I gave above seems to have some success-rate so far.
[22:14] <emilio> come funziona questa chat...?
[22:14] <s0ber_> !flash
[22:15] <s0ber_> !restricted
[22:15] <DuffDave> Hello! How can i displace my emails from evolution to thunderbird?
[22:15] <erUSUL> !es | emilio
[22:15] <arand> !it | emilio
[22:15] <ZykoticK9> arand, the unixmen.com one?  it certainly contains some gems!
[22:15] <s0ber_> !gnash
[22:15] <corinth> What's a good lightweight music player that doesn't look ugly?
[22:15] <erUSUL> corinth: people has many definitions for ugly
[22:15] <knoppies> s0ber_, I would stay away from gnash
[22:15] <cosmic> [corinth]: try xmms
[22:15] <stephenry> Beta software? You mean the official FLASH player isn't Beta software?
[22:16] <knoppies> s0ber_, it eats up your CPU time even while idling.
[22:16] <cosmic> its like the old winamp
[22:16] <corinth> erUSUL, of course, but "pretty" is pretty universal in software, usually. :-P
[22:16] <fbianconi> !player | corinth
[22:16] <DonaldShimoda> ok, now flash player works, but seems to have some proble with gmail,it closes the firefox if i open gmail
[22:16] <corinth> Ooh, nice fbianconi. Thanks. :-)
[22:16] <s0ber_> yeah i was just curious what it was, the current official flash player is really bad full screen
[22:16] <s0ber_> runs fine windowed however
[22:17] <arand> ZykoticK9: well, both really, First one is more general and covers more (including the old-kernel issue), but the unixmen gives instructions to the PPA additionally, which seems to be working for some.
[22:17] <rafael_> ?
[22:17] <zedster> what is the most recent kernal, I need to reinstall it, my wifi broke
[22:17] <cosmic> does anyknow know how to configure kubuntu 9.10 to use v4l instead of v4l2? links to howtos are much appreciated
[22:17] <admiral> Another attempt: Hi, I have a fresh & clean Karmic install and a variety of apps just keep locking up when I do specific totally unrelated things. No response to Ctrl+C. "ps" is one of those. What can I do?
[22:17] <aaaronlucas> is anybody able to help me just quickly? i was wondering if i could access my files from windows if i chose the "install inside windows" option on the ubuntu cd?
[22:17] <zedster> admiral: can you run top?
[22:17] <ZykoticK9> corinth, i notice moc isn't in the !player list - it's an ncurses (text) audio player, is that ugly?  joking of course ;)
[22:18] <Wolfcastle> hello
[22:18] <Kalisto> hi i updated my kernel and ran update-initramfs now i get busybox at boot with: /bin/sh: cant access tty:job control turned off. after i type in dmraid -ay it boots fine. how can i fix this?
[22:18] <admiral> zedster, yes
[22:18] <zedster> aaaronlucas: yes, you might have to use a 3rd program that lets you see ext partitions from windows
[22:18] <admiral> but I don't really know how to use it :)
[22:18] <Wolfcastle> I've noticed that the ubuntu notify osd sometimes is not working...at least when using emesene...don't relly know who to blame there
[22:18] <Wolfcastle> but my question is, how can I restart the notify service?
[22:18] <zedster> admiral: run it and make sure some rouge process is not eating the ram
[22:19] <arand> zedster: the linux-generic package always depend on the latest one
[22:19] <aaaronlucas> zedster: thanks very much mate!
[22:19] <preecher> i kno this isnt a "ubuntu" problem but does anyone know where i can get more cairo dock themes
[22:19] <docmax_> anyone using vdpau ???
[22:19] <crlsgms> my computer is locking when i install ubuntu 9.10, before the instalation even begins... is there a safe mode?
[22:19] <llwp> why would "ls -la /path/" not show results shown in "locate xyz.tmp"
[22:19] <zedster> arand: if I reinistall that I won't kill anything right?
[22:19] <xrdodrx> preecher: Google
[22:19] <bastidrazor> preecher: there is a #cairo-dock channel
[22:20] <admiral> zedster, I've made ps lock up and now the process that is using the most memory is Xorg.
[22:20] <admiral> at 1.5%
[22:20] <llwp> ran updatedb and its good now.
[22:20] <arand> zedster: I have not dablled in that much, but afaik, in theory it should be safe.
[22:20] <Scunizi> crlsgms: do you have a gforce chipset motherboard?
[22:21] <DuffDave> Hello! How can i displace my emails from evolution to thunderbird?
[22:21] <crlsgms> yes
[22:21] <crlsgms> now im checking the cd integrity, but i just burned.. i think its fine. im with 9.10 desktop
[22:21] <Scunizi> crlsgms: when you boot the live cd does it display the first screen? before going to the live ubuntu environment?
[22:21] <crlsgms> well, i just tryed to install.
[22:22] <crlsgms> no errors found, ill try to boot on the live cd
[22:22] <ZykoticK9> DuffDave, not sure what you mean by "displace", but if you have a gmail account - setup IMAP, copy your emails to your IMAP account then you can get them from inside thunderbird and copy them locally if you desire.  best of luck.
[22:22] <Scunizi> crlsgms: on that first screen you should be able to hit F6 and get some options.. you might need to edit the "kernel" line by adding "pci=nomsi" at the end of the line before "quiet splash".. that might fix it..
[22:23] <crlsgms> oh, thanks
[22:23] <DuffDave> thank you very much! but how do I do this with an POP account ?
[22:23] <duffydack> if I setup an account for jabber in pidgin, will it notify me of emails, or does jabber not support emailing?
[22:23] <Scunizi> crlsgms: this happens because of an irq sharing conflict.. that is if pci=nomsi is the fix..
[22:23] <crlsgms> im trying to live boot now, i see the icon, the cd is running.... but it will lock again
[22:23] <ronnie_vd_c>  does somebody got the wiimote with IR working in Karmic, i can see the IR in wmgui, but not working with wminput -c ir_ptr.
[22:23] <ZykoticK9> DuffDave, you can't use POP, as POP will download the messages off the server!
[22:24] <zedster> my wifi card shows up as unclaimed
[22:24] <crlsgms> and... locked :)
[22:24] <crlsgms> ill try the command
[22:24] <zedster> how do I claim it
[22:24] <xrdodrx> ronnie_vd_c: Uh, why?
[22:24] <TheCheeze> has anyone had any success getting the newer motorola phones to connect as modems and/or usb flash drives? Moto4lin was not working for me
[22:24] <upd> hi, can someone help me with this rt61pci error http://pastebin.com/m7cbc7839 ?
[22:24] <Scunizi> crlsgms: once you add that bit to the kernel line just hit enter and it will continue booting into the live cd environment
[22:25] <DuffDave> I have downloaded these messages in evolution and want to put them in Thunderbird
[22:25] <zedster> anyone else has a intel3945?
[22:25] <Cale> okay, another problem. SCIM no longer appears to be working. "Upgrading" from Jaunty to Karmic resulted in my Japanese language support apparently being replaced with support for Russian input, and scim-anthy being removed. I reinstalled scim-anthy and I have scim set as my input method in the Language Support dialog, but it doesn't seem to be starting up...
[22:25] <ronnie_vd_c> xrdodrx:  there are no howto's for karmic, follow the howto for 8.10, but now mousing with IR is not working
[22:26] <zedster> Cale: doesn't ibus do that now?
[22:26] <ZykoticK9> DuffDave, don't know if this works - never done it but check out http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-import-your-mails-from-evolution-to-thunderbird.html
[22:26] <xrdodrx> !anyone | zedster
[22:27] <crlsgms> Scunizi, when i hit f6 i got a box with some inputs, no where to write
[22:27] <xrdodrx> ronnie_vd_c: No, I was curious as to what good a wiimote would be
[22:27] <Cale> zedster: Hmm, I'll try switching to that.
[22:27] <ronnie_vd_c> xrdodrx: it worked for me in 9.04
[22:27] <crlsgms> uh just found it :)
[22:27] <crlsgms> sorru Scunizi
[22:27] <crlsgms> sorry
[22:27] <zedster> Cale: its in system pref should be there, look at the 2nd tab
[22:28] <ronnie_vd_c> xrdodrx: i sometimes attach my laptop to the tv. with the wiimote i can mouse and do all stuff
[22:28] <VCoolio> answer to my above question with try and error: icons for mimetypes / apps that aren't served in your icon theme go to /usr/share/pixmaps; ~/.local/share/pixmaps doesn't seem to work
[22:29] <ktzkk> do anyone note that open office tends to break down.
[22:29] <Scunizi> ktzkk: no.. what do you mean "break down" ?
[22:29] <xrdodrx> ronnie_vd_c: Thats very interesting...I kind of want to try it now ;)
[22:29] <zedster> ktzkk: I've had no problems with it for a while, check the build-dep
[22:30] <Cale> zedster: ありがとう
[22:30] <zedster> ??
[22:30] <Cale> thanks :)
[22:30] <ronnie_vd_c> xrdodrx: worked great :D
[22:30] <zedster> lol
[22:30] <ktzkk> oh when i do something else ,it automatically quit .
[22:30] <ronnie_vd_c> xrdodrx: now i can still work with acceleration, but is less intinuitive
[22:31] <crlsgms> Scunizi, freezed again.. didnt worked... ill get more details on the machine
[22:31] <Scunizi> ktzkk: see if java is turned on in the OOo options.. if it is turn it off... if it isn't turn it on..
[22:31] <zedster> ktzkk: did you check the build-dep?
[22:31] <ktzkk> no
[22:31] <Scunizi> zedster: what is the build-dep and where do you check it?
[22:32] <sburwood> What is initrd and how can I change it?
[22:32] <zedster> Scunizi: sudo apt-get build-dep package xyz
[22:32] <zedster> Scunizi: it makes sure you have the dependencies met
[22:32] <sburwood> in Koala, I get a message that it is too big when I reboot it after installation
[22:32] <Scunizi> zedster: hum.. never used that in 5 years.. must be lucky
[22:33] <e83__> hey ,  can i jump in real fast and ask a question?
[22:33] <sburwood> u just did
[22:33] <sburwood> loll
[22:33] <Scunizi> jump fast.. there's 1200+ people here.
[22:33] <e83__> sure did
[22:33] <Ph3nix> hi! Someone knows azureus here?
[22:33] <ZykoticK9> sburwood, init was replaced with something called upstart in karmic
[22:33] <zedster> Ph3nix: the client?
[22:33] <Ph3nix> y
[22:33] <xrdodrx> e83__: Just ask, don't ask to ask
[22:33] <crlsgms> Scunizi, its a pentium 4 2.53, 512ram vga offboard nvidia mx550
[22:34] <zedster> Ph3nix: what about it?
[22:34] <xdoe> anybody could help me with this:
[22:34] <crlsgms> now im trying with the F4 options, safe mode
[22:34] <xdoe> BScreen::BScreen: an error occured while querying the X server.
[22:34] <xdoe> 	another window manager already running on display:0.0
[22:34] <xdoe> Error: Couldn't find screens to manage.
[22:34] <xrdodrx> !info azureus
[22:34] <xdoe> Make sure you don't have another window manager running.
[22:34] <Ph3nix> zedster: i don't know how dl music..
[22:34] <FloodBot3> xdoe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:34] <sburwood> Zykotic, how do I get Karmic to function, then?  I don't know what to do with initrd and how to get it to work
[22:34] <zedster> Ph3nix: I cannot help with that and no one in here can, look else where
[22:34] <e83__>  i want to stop the removal of a package from the command line, i tried sudo aptitude hold package but it still says its going to be removed
[22:35] <Ph3nix> its a lgeal music of course..
[22:35] <Scunizi> crlsgms: you might need to use the alternate install cd instead of the live cd.. you may have a mem. problem.. also once installed you'll want to load an older nvidia driver to make it work correctly.  The older drivers are available in the repo's
[22:35] <root> hi, how do i change the program that a filetype opens with in ubuntu?
[22:35] <crlsgms> sad. ill download the alternate cd tomorrow
[22:35] <crlsgms> thanks anyway
[22:35] <zedster> Ph3nix: read the wiki page on torrenting or look at sites about bays that have that sort of information :-)
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> sburwood, sorry i reread you message - your having a boot issue!  i thought you where trying to configure init in some way, sorry i have no hint what is wrong with your system currently!
[22:35] <Scunizi> crlsgms: np.. that can happen on older hardware
[22:35] <Ph3nix> ok ..
[22:35] <Ph3nix> thx
[22:36] <cyrus_mc> anyone here using encryptedfilesytem under Karmic?
[22:36] <crlsgms> Scunizi, do u suggest i get an older version of ubuntu?
[22:36] <e83__> no one on stop package removal?
[22:36] <andrew44> i can't find anything in the administration menu about changing the preferred application?
[22:36] <sburwood> but you understand the question
[22:36] <Shwack> 9.10 fresh insall printing takes me 10+ minutes per page - can anybody help????
[22:36] <sburwood> boot issue ... help me, please with Karmic
[22:36] <Scunizi> crlsgms: you definately don't suffer from the problem needing the pci=nomsi issue.. and older version of ubuntu won't make much difference.. it's the install routine that may be needing extra ram to work
[22:37] <Scunizi> crlsgms: the alternate cd is not gui based.. it's text based.. but once installed you do have the gui
[22:37] <Blank__> ncurses!
[22:38] <aendruk> Any speculations on why /boot/vmlinuz is missing in my fresh installation of Karmic?
[22:38] <jac0b> I still can't get my sound to work in 9.10
[22:38] <crlsgms> Scunizi, just found a 9.04 xubuntu here, ill give a try
[22:38] <Scunizi> crlsgms: ok.. let me know
[22:38] <xrdodrx> jac0b: What have you tried?
[22:39] <greezmunkey> e/quit
[22:39] <majuk> Anyone have any ideas for troubleshooting authentication problems?
[22:39] <crlsgms> changing subjects, anyone have a good suggestion to make a web browsing quiosque using ubuntu?
[22:39] <ZykoticK9> aendruk, i have a /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic do you?
[22:39] <ktzkk> i can't check my build-dep out . is it right that i type sudo apt-get install build-dep
[22:39] <sburwood> aendruk, I'm having boot issues with Karmic
[22:40] <jac0b> I tried http://drowninginbugs.blogspot.com/2009/10/caveats-for-audio-in-910.html & http://unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/525-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu910-karmic-koala
[22:40] <cyrus_mc> no one using encrypted filesystems? I have setup cryptdisks but during the boot process it doesn't let me enter the passphrase, it just ocntinues to boot into X
[22:40] <aendruk> ZykoticK9, Nope. And dpkg.log reports a successful installation of linux-image-2.6.31-14-generic. I'm confused.
[22:40] <cyrus_mc> i have tried changing the console line in the upstart script from owner to output but neither works
[22:41] <Shwack> lol how come nobody wants to say anything about the slow printing?   There's millions of unresolved forum posts about the issue
[22:41] <sburwood> Zykotic just mentioned that something called initrd ... if I understood correctly, replaced vmlinuz
[22:41] <Ph3nix> I have an other question: How use a torrent network (like eDonkey for exemple...) with my client torrent, azureus ?
[22:41] <aendruk> sbine, Those are different things.
[22:41] <Scunizi> cyrus_mc: in 9.10 the encryption is "decrypted" when you enter your login info.. it's not a sector level encryption
[22:41] <Younder> maintaing Axiom is more work than I thought
[22:41] <aendruk> sbine, Sorry, directed at sburwood
[22:41] <DoomsDave> i am trying to have a bash script run every time i login to gnome. i put it in my user's startup applications under system/preferences but it doesnt run it when i log in. i can run it manually and it works fine
[22:41] <sburwood> ok, sorry
[22:41] <ZykoticK9> aendruk, is this after a fresh install?
[22:42] <Scunizi> cyrus_mc: previous versions require a password/phrase on boot.. it doesn't anymore.
[22:42] <jac0b> why was it working fine in 9.04 and not no sound
[22:42] <spartan07> Is there an equivalent software to MS Exchange Server for Ubuntu?
[22:42] <Scunizi> spartan07: openexchange
[22:42] <cyrus_mc> Scunizi: ah, cryptsetup requires you to enter a password. Nothing is unlocked when I login using my username and password
[22:42] <toader> HI, in Ubuntu Linux, how to convert DjVu file to PDF? thanks
[22:42] <SmokeyD> hey eveyone: is there a way to powerdown an external usb harddrive? I can unmount it, but can I also power it down to stop the disks from spinning and lock the reading arm in place?
[22:42] <crlsgms> Scunizi, freezed too. ill wait for the alternate
[22:42] <cyrus_mc> Scunizi: I am using cryptdisks, maybe there is another procedure I should be following for 9.10
[22:42] <crlsgms> thanks anyway!
[22:43] <sburwood> aendruk, could you tell me how to install Karmic without the initrd problem?  During installation, no problem.  When I reboot after, it doesn't get past POST
[22:43] <aendruk> ZykoticK9, It's a fresh install from a USB disk created by the USB Startup Disk Creator. A boot media check at USB boot prior to installation completed successfully.
[22:43] <spartan07> sweet never heard of it but Im excited. thank you
[22:43] <Scunizi> cyrus_mc: when installing on 9.10 it typically has the option to setup encryption or not.. maybe you missed that.. I don't know how to do it after install.
[22:43] <cyrus_mc> Scunizi: the cryptdisks-enable upstart script prompts for a password, it just doesn't let you input it as it just continues on. Then if you do a ps -ef | grep crypt you see a proces running that is asking for the password
[22:43] <Scunizi> crlsgms: good luck
[22:43] <crlsgms> will i have to use pci=nomsi on the alternate too Scunizi ?
[22:44] <Scunizi> cyrus_mc: sorry I don't have the answer... Just regurgitating what I've read in the release notes..
[22:44] <Scunizi> crlsgms: nope
[22:44] <sburwood> any of the 1657 people here wanna help me?
[22:44] <cyrus_mc> let me ask this questino then, for upstart, if I modify a script in /etc/init, do I have to run any update job or is that change made once I modify that script
[22:44] <ZykoticK9> aendruk, and what output do you get when booting?  what is the final error?  any detail helpful.
[22:44] <Scunizi> sburwood: just ask a question
[22:44] <aendruk> sburwood, I really don't know anything about the new initrd replacement yet, sorry.
[22:45] <sburwood> Scunizi, I am having problems trying to install Karmic.  I have 8.10 and it works well, but I want to use 9.10.  I have tried to install 9.04, but it has a problem
[22:46] <sburwood> on boot after installation of 9.04, I get what looks like a memory dump and nothing more
[22:46] <Scunizi> sburwood: beyond me.... sorry
[22:46] <aendruk> ZykoticK9, There is no grub entry for the kernel; only Memtest86, so no error messages. I'm poking around the system drive from a live USB session now.
[22:46] <preecher> Daz u awake
[22:47] <DaZ> preecher: ?
[22:47] <preecher> i need some advice
[22:47] <batang_g> im using ubuntu 9.10, which created a dual OS when i installed in in windows. but when im in ubuntu, i cannot access the drive which contains my files in windows.. can anyone help me?
[22:47] <preecher> i went to cairo channel and someone gave me commands to get new cairo dock but it looks like they had me upgrade my ubuntu 9.10 again
[22:48] <xrdodrx> !ntfs
[22:48] <ZykoticK9> aendruk, be sure to check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Automatic%20Entries
[22:48]  * DaZ doesn't use gnome.
[22:49] <xrdodrx> batang_g: Read ubottu's ntfs factoid
[22:49] <zedster> ok, I tried reinstalling linux-generic, my wifi is still dead, in lshw my wifi shows up as unmanaged, its an intel 3945 which has support built into the kernal
[22:49] <sburwood> do I need to pay for help??
[22:49] <upd> how can i restart rt61pci driver or module ?
[22:49] <jrib> sburwood: no
[22:49] <bastid_raZor> preecher: http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8724  are the .debs .. install the dock then the plugins.
[22:49] <zedster> upd: modprobe
[22:50] <sburwood> is there a wiz out there to help me?
[22:50] <jrib> !helpme | sburwood
[22:50] <cwillu_clone> what's the correct way to tell devicekit-disks to (and I misquote) "stop touching my fricking removable disks"?
[22:50] <s0ber_> does the ubuntu-restricted-extas increase flash performance in any way?
[22:50] <aendruk> ZykoticK9, Thanks, that's good to know. My guess is that update-grub isn't the problem here though, since there doesn't appear to even be a kernel for it to find.
[22:50] <frostburn> someone give me a problem that can be solved within 10 minutes
[22:50] <e83__> does anyone know how to stop a package from being removed?
[22:51] <zedster> cwillu_clone: set them to mount in fstab?
[22:51] <jrib> e83__: install it?
[22:51] <xrdodrx> sburwood: If you really are stuck and feel that we cant help, you can buy support from Canonica
[22:51] <jrib> frostburn: 2 + 2
[22:51] <batang_g> ubottu: thanks, i'll try that
[22:51] <frostburn> jrib, what mathematical axioms
[22:51] <jrib> frostburn: zfc
[22:51] <test34> How can I use the python bindings for opencv? I tried "from opencv import *" but that doesn't seem to work
[22:51] <jrib> test34: try #python
[22:51] <e83__> i have xserver-xorg-video-psb installed, it allows me to see my screen at the right resolution, everytimne i want to upgrade apt-get says it is to be removed
[22:51] <iceroot> test34: #python
[22:52] <test34> ok
[22:52] <e83__> so i want to set it never to be upgrade/removed and so on
[22:52] <cwillu_clone> zedster, non-starter, as I don't know the device name until I've already plugged it in, at which point devkit has grabbed it
[22:52] <crohakon> How can I change the name of an external hard drive without reformatting it?
[22:52] <jrib> !label | crohakon
[22:52] <zedster> cwillu_clone: grab it as mounted it or just sees it? are we talking about a flash drive here?
[22:52] <aendruk> Is there a way to run apt commands on a system from a live CD session? I'd like to try to reinstall a package on a system that won't currently boot.
[22:53] <acad2> any college students in here want to get back and microsoft msg me...
[22:53] <cwillu_clone> zedster, we're talking about a couple dozen flash drives that I need to put a very specific format on
[22:53] <cwillu_clone> zedster, one at a time of course :p
[22:53] <jrib> aendruk: chroot
[22:53] <crohakon> jrib, and if it is eSATA?
[22:53] <jrib> crohakon: shouldn't matter
[22:53] <cwillu_clone> zedster, it mounts them;  the nautilus setting doesn't seem to have any effect on devkit's behaviour
[22:53] <frostburn> jrib, 4
[22:53] <crohakon> okay, thanks
[22:53] <e83__> how do i stop a package from being auto matically removed every update?
[22:53] <aendruk> jrib, Will read up on it, thanks.
[22:54] <jrib> frostburn: what if we assume negation of axiom of choice?
[22:54] <bastid_raZor> e83__: e83__ in synaptic click the package then at the top look for Package>Lock version
[22:54] <zedster> cwillu_clone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[22:54] <e83__> i update from command line and it still says to be removed
[22:54] <e83__> tried locking it, and aptitude hold
[22:54] <bastid_raZor> e83__: aptitude also has a way to hold a package
[22:54] <e83__> tried it'
[22:54] <outoftime> anyone know how to change the screen resolution in ratpoison? when i use xrandr, it changes the resolution but ratpoison just lives in a corner of the screen that is the original width/height
[22:54] <ZykoticK9> aendruk, FYI missing kernel after 9.10 bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/474196
[22:55] <frostburn> jrib, that might take longer than 10 minutes, i haven't worked with set theory since i graduated =p
[22:55] <e83__> only hold im guessing for every update i want to set it so it never asks/demands
[22:55] <batang_g> xrdodrx: thanks
[22:55] <aendruk> ZykoticK9, Awesome.
[22:56] <ZykoticK9> aendruk, the post it stems from does sound kinda like the issue your having http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1847174.html
[22:56] <jrib> frostburn: :P
[22:57] <crohakon> jrib, that does not seem to work. I unmounted the device but there is no option to change the label, just to format it. Oh well, no big deal I guess.
[22:57] <jrib> crohakon: what filesystem?
[22:58] <crohakon> NTFS
[22:58] <jrib> crohakon: so the command line program "ntfslabel" did not work?
[22:58] <crohakon> jrib, I also get this warning when looking at the drives information: "Unable to read the contents of this file system! Because of this some operations may be unavailable"
[22:59] <ZykoticK9> crohakon, i tried to rename NTFS drives for a long time - had to get a friend to rename them on their mac to get it to STAY.  good luck.
[22:59] <cwillu_clone> zedster, it's dumb beyond words (I know, I just spent the last 30 seconds trying to describe it) that one needs a gconf setting to do that
[22:59] <cwillu_clone> but thanks :p
[22:59] <frostburn> jrib, without the axiom of choice, you could have an infinite number of answers, no?
[22:59] <ldiamond1> I need to know how to install EXT4 support on a 8.04 live CD so I can read whats on my EXT4 partition
[22:59] <Phoenix2072> tried netbook remix, now all my settings for appearance through Compiz do not work, can anyone help?
[22:59] <crohakon> I think I am just going to move the files off it is and format the drive.
[23:00] <zedster> ldiamond1: you should be able to do that from apt-get during the live the session
[23:00] <ldiamond1> zedster yea but what do I install? whats the package
[23:00] <jrib> frostburn: not really my area, but I'm pretty sure you don't need axiom of choice to define integers from sets and addition so that 2+2 still gives 4
[23:00] <cwillu_clone> zedster, not ext4 support, he needs to build a kernel module
[23:00] <jrib> frostburn: we're getting really offtopic though :)
[23:01] <frostburn> ldiamond1, you'd have to compile a new livecd with the kernel mod in choice, it's not a package.  Can't use a live 9.10 cd?
[23:01] <cwillu_clone> ldiamond1, I think you'd have to install the kernel headers + build-essential, and then find a backported ext4 module for whatever kernel version the livecd uses, and then compile the module, and then insmod the module
[23:01] <frostburn> jrib, pschaw, no we're not =P
[23:01] <cwillu_clone> ldiamond1, is there any reason why you can't just use a newer livecd?
[23:01] <ZykoticK9> zedster, ldiamond1 problem i see there is you'll need a reboot for the kernel to actually get the ext4 support i think...  best of luck, wouldn't it be easier to just get a 9.10 live cd?
[23:01] <cwillu_clone> ZykoticK9, you could compile a module and insmod it, but it's still silly :p
[23:02] <ktzkk> my open office quited again ,what should i do?
[23:02] <zedster> trying to get my wifi working, it just cut out earlier, its an intel 3954, anyone know how I make sure my kernal has the iwlwifi driver ?
[23:02] <greezmunkey> when wicd starts it asks for a password? It has not done that before.. I give it the password, and as far as I can tell nothing happens. Any clues?
[23:03]  * cwillu_clone puts wicd in the category of automatix-like things
[23:03] <aendruk> zedster, "$ lsmod | grep iwl" gives me iwl3945 and iwlcore
[23:04] <Cale> Hmm, the ibus notification thingy disappeared after I restarted X. ibus is still apparently working, and all the keys work, but it gives me no notification about what's going on.
[23:04]  * cwillu_clone reboots, as devkit is really hung
[23:04] <greezmunkey> cwillu_clone, I agree, but it seemed to be working fine up until this restart
[23:04] <nyk2005> I'm trying to create a RAID5 on the three identical disks of a "fake-raid" using "mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=3 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1" but I get "device or resource busy" for all disks. But they aren't even formated. I just partitioned them using fdisk to "linux raid auto".
[23:04] <aendruk> zedster, Oh. 3954. I could just be experiencing a moment of dyslexia.
[23:05] <zedster> aendruk: its 3945
[23:06] <ZykoticK9> nyk2005, i'd ask the same question in #ubuntu-server as well.  good luck.
[23:06] <nyk2005> ZykoticK9: I think I found the answer in google already, just have to turn off the fake-raid stuff in BIOS.
[23:07] <ZykoticK9> nyk2005, good to know!  thanks
[23:08] <nyk2005> ZykoticK9: haven't tried it, but this just seems to explain it well: http://www.righteoushack.net/?p=197
[23:08] <nyk2005> ZykoticK9: I mean what also could it be..
[23:09] <ZykoticK9> nyk2005, ? i don't play with raid much
[23:09] <nyk2005> ZykoticK9: only some bios thing dares to have a write lock on an unformated disk..
[23:09] <seidos> what process is responsible for network connectivity?  I pkilled nm-applet but I'm still connected to wifi
[23:10] <nyk2005> ZykoticK9: me neighter..  hardware raid "just work" without ever noticing it.. :)
[23:10] <ZykoticK9> nyk2005, the fakeraid on both my boards has thus far gone unused - gotta get some more sata drive ;)  good luck man.
[23:10] <bastid_raZor> 3333\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]][[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[;;;;;;;;;;;;]]]]]]]]]]]][[[puydqa67iop[][pxwearwtzrefafsgnreffvbzhgabxh
[23:11] <chrispalmtree> Have a question if someone has the time, I don't have a hard line to the internet to enable wifi on my other laptop, how do I go about getting this fixed? Any help would be appreciated.
[23:11] <nyk2005> ZykoticK9: it's a good thing anyway... you get a nice bundle of 3 disks and software raid is even better on a multicore system
[23:11] <bastid_raZor> sorry.. my three year old got to my laptop beforei could get back to the table..
[23:12] <egy> ada bisa yang bantu nggak
[23:12] <egy> pleazeeeeeeeeeeeee
[23:12] <dwarder> !ar
[23:12] <ZykoticK9> chrispalmtree, is there NO way you can get a network cable attached?
[23:12] <dwarder> !ch
[23:13] <chrispalmtree> no, only internet I get is free wifi
[23:13] <dwarder> bastid_raZor: :)
[23:13] <chrispalmtree> I had thought about building it, but the computer doesnt have build-essentials to make the driver
[23:14] <egy> can you help me??????????pleaze............
[23:14] <diamante2k> ciao
[23:15] <meowpup> anyone know y when i boot every 2nd or trd time pidgin dont work and gives this error Segmentation faultSegmentation fault
[23:15] <diamante2k> italiano
[23:15] <kermit_the> hello, is there any bugs in the firefox 3.4 in karmic koala?
[23:15] <Younder> plenty
[23:15] <phoenix_> Can anyone help me with problem, tried unr, now can't get my original setttings back on compiz
[23:16] <meowpup> i can use sud pidgin fine but dont as it less safer running in sudo
[23:16] <OerHeks> kermit_the, current version is 3.5.4 so i say it had ..
[23:16] <ZykoticK9> kermit_the, not many :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity?field.searchtext=firefox+3.4&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=
[23:16] <ZykoticK9> &field.has_no_package=
[23:16] <meowpup> *sudo
[23:16] <Younder> kermit_the, It is better to consult bugzilla
[23:16] <gianluca> !it
[23:16] <ZykoticK9> sorry didn't realize that link was so big - flooding accident
[23:17] <diamante2k> grazie
[23:18] <Younder> ubottu, so we have a italian nursery maid..
[23:18] <kermit_the> i have already upgrade into ff 3.54, and the lay out is different if i opening facebook site
[23:18] <phoenix_> any1 run into problem removing UNR?
[23:19] <PsyberS> i uninstalled pulseaudio (because my spdif stopped working after the update to karmic and nothing was working to fix it), but now 'amixer' complains about timing out connecting to the pulseaudio server, any ideas?
[23:19] <stevr1it> hello, i have a problem, i am using karmic and now the windows manager does not start, i need some support
[23:20] <Mosx> what options are there to connect to MS Access mdb from Linux using ODBC ?
[23:21] <ibou> is it possible to have a traduction of this :brw-rw-rw-+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2009-11-11 00:30 /dev/sr0 ?
[23:21] <phoenix_> Can someone help me please?
[23:21] <Kyduh> I am very sorry to interrupt but would there happen to be any kind of "newbie advice" channel?
[23:22]  * Kyduh looks up.
[23:22] <Kyduh> I'm going where he's going
[23:22] <Brenden``> !moo
[23:22] <Brenden``> err
[23:22] <Brenden-> moo: os: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate - (6.1.7600) up: 1day 3hrs 27secs cpu: AMD Phenom(tm) 9550 Quad-Core Processor (x64) at 2200MHz (9% Load) gfx: ATI Technologies Inc. ATI display adapter (0x9610) 256MB res: 1440x900 32bit 59Hz ram: 1549/5880.1MB (26.34%) [|||-------] hdd: C:\ 537.25GB/580.04GB net: Realtek RTL8168C[P]_8111C[P] Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC [NDIS 6.20] - 0MB/s 0B In 0B Out
[23:22] <bastid_raZor> ZykoticK9: tinyurl.com is the savior of large links
[23:22] <osmosis> im trying to install the netbook remix, but after starting up and selecting to 'Try it',..i just get a black screen with a watch in the middle.
[23:22] <phoenix_> Kyduh- #ubuntu-beginners-help
[23:23] <fearful> Anyone have any idea why Karmic won't accept my Logitech wireless usb mouse all of the sudden worked fine before
[23:23] <ZykoticK9> bastid_raZor, very true - it was just an accident, did NOT expect it to be that big.
[23:23] <Pici> Brenden-: Please don't do that here.
[23:23] <Kyduh> phoenix_, Thank you good sir
[23:23] <Brenden``> sorry it was an accident
[23:23] <bastid_raZor> ZykoticK9: understood, didn't know if you knew about it or not. :)
[23:23] <nyk2005> ZykoticK9: it works!
[23:23] <greezmunkey> heh, parsing error in file broke wicd...ConfigParser.ParsingError: File contains parsing errors: /etc/wicd/wired-settings.conf [line 23]: '[]\n'
[23:24] <kermit_the> how to install google chrome in karmic?
[23:24] <greezmunkey> it was a set of brackets with nothing in between...deleated, now wicd runs fine!
[23:24] <greezmunkey> anihoo, later...
[23:25] <ibou> i need a traduction. What does "brw-rw-rw-+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2009-11-11 00:30 /dev/sr0" mean ? How to move "root" to "ibou" ?
[23:25] <jacooper>  #ops
[23:25] <Flannel> ibou: What does which part of it mean?
[23:27] <lao5> in the last two days , my pidgin got a message, saying "Tempoe_wants to send you something 'rc.hackerthreads.org#hackerthreads' (unknown.)" What is this , pls?
[23:27] <ZykoticK9> ibou, the brw part means it's a Block device!  you don't typically change the permission on those, what are you trying to do?
[23:27] <zedster> my wifi shows up as unclaimed in lshw, I tried reinstalling the kernal and headers, what else can I try?
[23:27] <Pici> !exploit > lao5
[23:27] <Flannel> ibou: There's a nice permission tutorial thing here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[23:27] <osmosis> im trying to install the netbook remix, but after starting up and selecting to 'Try it',..i just get a black screen with a watch in the middle.
[23:28] <coolcat> hi, I am trying to remember the name of the game you have to avoid a ball falling hitting it. As the ball hits it destroys the wall.
[23:28] <cwillu_clone> ibou, add yourself to the cdrom group
[23:29] <lao5> pici:thks
[23:29] <cwillu_clone> although you're already permitted by the other permissions
[23:29] <benwah> Hi!! I use Ubuntu Karmic, I am a bit tired of the look of the default xterm, so I tried to create a ".Xdefaults" file in $HOME, but it is not read, does anyone know how I can change the default look of xterm?
[23:30] <crohakon> So, I was transferring over 30 GBs of data from my external hard drives to a hard drive on my laptop and ubuntu crashed. Now, I am missing a whole bunch of data.... Is there a way to rescue this missing data?
[23:30] <forward> (FreeNode) [#ubuntu] <Cirrus_Cirrus__> *PARTS: Cirrus_Cirrus__ ( Cirrus_Cirrus__!n=owner@pool-71-169-134-41.burl.east.myfairpoint.net )
[23:31] <forward> (FreeNode) [#ubuntu] <malavar> *JOINS: malavar ( malavar!n=malavar@76.242.190.109 )
[23:31] <crohakon> Anyone? This was like 10 years of text documents...
[23:31] <forward> (FreeNode) [#ubuntu] <qed> *JOINS: qed ( qed!i=tao@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-qrwoozivsignzzzt )
[23:31] <forward> (FreeNode) [#ubuntu] <crohakon> Anyone? This was like 10 years of text documents...
[23:31] <VCoolio> benwah: like this? xterm -fa monaco -fs 12 -bg black -fg orange1 -g 95x25 -sb -rightbar
[23:31] <forward> (FreeNode) [#ubuntu] <VCoolio> benwah: like this? xterm -fa monaco -fs 12 -bg black -fg orange1 -g 95x25 -sb -rightbar
[23:31] <trism> benwah: try using .Xresources instead
[23:31] <benwah> VCoolio, correct, but when I alt-f2 (to run), I dont want to have to type this everytime
[23:32] <benwah> trism, i'll try
[23:32] <Kyduh> Is there anyone who has been able to install any distro on a hp pavilion dv6 laptop and have both sound and wireless work? Extensive forum trolling has lead me to beleive otherwise
[23:32] <crohakon> So, I was transferring over 30 GBs of data from my external hard drives to a hard drive on my laptop and ubuntu crashed. Now, I am missing a whole bunch of data.... Is there a way to rescue this missing data?
[23:32] <coastal_> why can't i puttytelnet to a server
[23:32] <VCoolio> benwah: create a launcher for it or edit the menu entry or edit /usr/share/applications/xterm
[23:32] <benwah> VCoolio, I dont like using the mouse, I want to alt-f2 and type xterm, and have a custom-looking xterm
[23:32] <DanaG> crohakon: hmm, is it still on the external drives?
[23:32] <qed> curse you ubuntu for ignoring .xsession -- i cannot get xmonad to run as my default window manager no matter what i do in Karmic.  I've tried editing window_manager in gconftool, making a startup application to killall metacity and then run xmonad, but it doesnt work -- wtf
[23:33] <VCoolio> benwah: then edit the launcher in /usr/share/applications/xterm with gksudo gedit
[23:33] <crohakon> DanaG, No, some of it is on the internal drive, some is on the external drive... and a lot is just missing...
[23:33] <DanaG> hmm, copying, or moving?
[23:33] <AspidZent> evening ladies and gentlemen...
[23:33] <xenogia> I was wondering if there is a way to add say an openbox/fluxbox right click menu in gnome as I don't like the default gnome menu?
[23:33] <DanaG> And what file systems?
[23:33] <crohakon> DanaG, moving, though now I wish  I would have just copied...
[23:33] <benwah> VCoolio, seems like a good idea, but I will first try to do it in user-land with Xresources, seems like a clean solution
[23:34] <zedster> the firmware-iwlwifi package is dead, anyone know what replaced it
[23:34] <VCoolio> benwah: sure; also using aliases may be an option, but I don't know if alt+f2 reads .bashrc
[23:34] <qed> Does anyone know how to get friggen metacity to not run and get xmonad to run at login instead?  I've tried editing gconftool and adding a startup application which kills metacity and starts xmonad, it kills metacity but wont run xmonad, wtf
[23:34] <benwah> VCoolio, alt-f2 does not read aliases :-(
[23:34] <crohakon> DanaG, I am missing all of my personal documents, all of my quickbooks data and records (that I must save for at least 4 more years) and much more...
[23:35] <DanaG> What file systems were the external and internal drives?
[23:35] <crohakon> Both NTFS
[23:35] <DanaG> Hmm, that should be easier, then.
[23:35] <ibou> Flannel, ZykoticK9, cwillu_clone, thanks.
[23:35] <crohakon> DanaG, oh?
[23:36] <DanaG> Install testdisk, cd to some place safe that's not on either drive, and then use testdisk to look at that partition.
[23:36] <DanaG> It has even recovered from a quick-format, for me.
[23:36] <crohakon> The internal hard drive is not my boot drive...
[23:36] <qed> Does anyone know how to get friggen metacity to not run and get xmonad to run at login instead?  I've tried editing gconftool and adding a startup application which kills metacity and starts xmonad, it kills metacity but wont run xmonad, wtf?
[23:37] <crohakon> DanaG, where do I get testdisk?
[23:37] <DanaG> It's in the repos.
[23:37] <crohakon> I just searched, it did not come up
[23:37] <DanaG> weird.
[23:37] <DanaG> !info testdisk
[23:37] <crohakon> DanaG, was able to get it with apt-get, nvm
[23:38] <PhantomLink> we have company, be back in a bit
[23:38] <DanaG> It even has an "undelete" function.
[23:38] <qed> Does anyone know how to get friggen metacity to not run and get xmonad to run at login instead?  I've tried editing gconftool and adding a startup application which kills metacity and starts xmonad, it kills metacity but wont run xmonad, wtf?
[23:39] <banister`> hey any ruby programmers here?
[23:39] <Evito> where can i change the folder my desktop uses? managed to mess it up :)
[23:39] <qed> i dabble banister`
[23:39] <crohakon> DanaG, know where I can get a guide to this program?
[23:39] <banister`> qed: cool, can i get you to test a gem? (i just want to know if it cmpiles)
[23:39] <qed> why couldnt you test it?
[23:40] <DanaG> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[23:40] <VCoolio> when in irssi / byobu I often can't use notify-send; I get "libnotify-Message: Unable to get session bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-r6epotofMJ: Connection refused" any ideas on this? Sometimes it does work though...
[23:40] <coastal_> anyone know why i can't connect with putty ssh client?
[23:40] <DanaG> Site seems to be a bit slow.
[23:40] <crohakon> coastal_, more details
[23:40] <banister`> qed: because i want to ensure it's not just running on my system due to some fluke of my setup
[23:40] <DanaG> "For a maximum of security, TestDisk doesn't try to unerase files but  lets you copy the deleted files you want to recover on another partition  or disk. Be careful, do not write anything on the filesystem that was  holding the data, writing new files may overwrite the files you want to  recover. "
[23:40] <john`> how come whenever i open irssi and i close the terminal screen and re-open and it still exist as a process running in the background?
[23:40] <coastal_> crohakon, i can't even connect to my ip
[23:40] <qed> banister`: package it up and wait for bug reportsd
[23:40] <banister`> qed: sudo aptitude install libdevil1c2 libdevil-dev && sudo gem install devil
[23:40] <qed> reports
[23:40] <qed> lol
[23:41] <john`> how can i switch to that process again?
[23:41] <banister`> hehe
[23:41] <Evito> where can i change the folder my desktop uses? managed to mess it up :)
[23:41] <crohakon> coastal_, are you trying to connect to a server outside your local network or trying to connect to a server you have set up in your home?
[23:41] <coastal_> both
[23:41] <qed> Does anyone know how to get friggen metacity to not run and get xmonad to run at login instead?  I've tried editing gconftool and adding a startup application which kills metacity and starts xmonad, it kills metacity but wont run xmonad, wtf?
[23:42] <coastal_> crohakon both
[23:42] <bastid_raZor> Evito: ~/Desktop     .. or /home/yourusername/Desktop  both are the same location
[23:42] <benwah> To the one who suggested I use .Xresources instead of .Xdefaults : Thanks! It is working!
[23:42] <john`> anyone know how to jump to a certain PID running in the background in the terminal?
[23:42] <crohakon> coastal_, what error are you getting?
[23:43] <cfedde> anyone in the denver area gonig to the ubuntu release party @ hanson's?
[23:43] <samuli> does anyone else not see the point of xchat-gnome?
[23:43] <trism> qed: I found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975329 but it is for Intrepid, so may not work anymore
[23:43] <qed> trism: it doesnt work
[23:43] <john`> trism: do you know how?
[23:43] <qed> i used that before
[23:43] <coastal_> crohakon, unable to resolve host
[23:44] <john`> qed: do you know how to do it?
[23:44] <coastal_> crohakon, i just want to see if i can connect to my own box using ssh
[23:44] <qed> john`: how to do what?
[23:44] <icehawk78> Is it poosible to open a program on a desktop via ssh? I want to start transmission on my desktop, but I'm away and only on ssh right now
[23:45] <osmosis> im trying to install the netbook remix, but after starting up and selecting to 'Try it',..i just get a black screen with a watch in the middle.
[23:45] <qed> ssh -X user@host
[23:45] <crohakon> coastal_, are the ports open? and are you sure you have the correct IP address? And are you connecting to the port that your ssh server is running on? and is there even an ssh server installed and running on the computer you want to connect to.
[23:45] <crohakon> DanaG, Sadly, it does not seem to be able to find any deleted data...
[23:45] <john`> qed: i open irssi in a terminal screen and i quit without using the quit message.  When i log back into the server, irssi still running in the background.  How do i get to that PID or open it so i can continue working in that irssi?
[23:45] <crohakon> DanaG, =(
[23:45] <Jorophose> I tried booting up Ubuntu 9.04 with a flash drive on my gigabyte 770 & athlon x4 machine, but it threw a fit and tossed me into an intramfs prompt. except, this same usb drive was booting fine on my laptop... any idea what could have happened? will debian play nice with my hardware?
[23:45] <raja> folks, my rtl8187 wireless is shaky after upgrading to 9.10, i can only activate it using modprobe rtl8187. previously i used to manually activate it using ./wlan0up but that gives me an error: insmod: error inserting 'ieee80211_crypt-rtl.ko': -1 Invalid module format
[23:45] <pvl1> john`, i think i found something, hold on a sec
[23:46] <DanaG> crohakon: try doing it the other way: go through the "find the partitions" analysis, and it'll let you list files for ntfs.
[23:46] <john`> pvl1: thanks man
[23:46] <pvl1> icehawk78, sorta, u can use xofwarding if u have it enabled
[23:46] <icehawk78> qed: I'm on my windows box, SSH'd into my linux computer via putty.
[23:46] <coastal_> crohakon, i thought the server was already up when i installed Ubuntu
[23:47] <DanaG> hmm, for me, the ntfs undelete thing takes a long time to analyze, and gives no visual indication of progress.
[23:47] <icehawk78> pvl1: 1) How would I do that via putty, and 2) If that needs to be configured/enabled, how would I do that?
[23:47] <crohakon> coastal_, no... not likely... try sudo apt-get install ssh on the server
[23:47] <coastal_> crohakon, i did that
[23:47] <crohakon> coastal_, and if it is already installed, have you configured it?
[23:47] <bastid_raZor> coastal_: openssh-server is the package you'll need
[23:48] <pvl1> john`, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/56942
[23:48] <coastal_> crohakon, hmm no
[23:48] <coastal_> crohakon, how
[23:48] <pvl1> john`, idk if thats what u were looking for
[23:48] <john`> pvl1: hmm, i'll take a look, but you understand what i am talking about right?
[23:48] <crohakon> coastal_, https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/index.html
[23:48] <john`> when i go back into the server terminal and i type "ps all" i still see irssi running in the background
[23:48] <pvl1> john`, your trying to access something running in the background using its pid
[23:48] <mdmkolbe> Why doesn't my fresh karmic install have the "System -> Administration -> Keyboard & Mouse" menu item mentioned on http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Karmic#Enabling_NUM_LOCK_On_Startup
[23:49] <john`> i just want to get to that specific PID
[23:49] <scribawf> How do I recover my grub loader?
[23:49] <john`> yes
[23:49] <bastid_raZor> !grub | scribawf
[23:49] <qed> Does anyone know how to get friggen metacity to not run and get xmonad to run at login instead?  I've tried editing gconftool and adding a startup application which kills metacity and starts xmonad, it kills metacity but wont run xmonad, wtf?
[23:49] <pvl1> scribawf, got a live cd?
[23:49] <fco51> hola todo/as
[23:49] <john`> pvl1: or i don't even know if irssi have that option where i can just switch back manually inside irssi
[23:49] <qed> note that this is in karmic
[23:49] <scribawf> bastid;  thanks
[23:50] <qed> karmic ignores .xsession which is stupid and annoying
[23:50] <john`> pvl1: to the previous working one i mean
[23:50] <scribawf> pvl1;  yup have live karmic cd
[23:50] <crohakon> coastal_, also, #ubuntu-server
[23:50] <icehawk78> pvl1: I looked up x forwarding - that doesn't seem like quite what I need. I don't actually care about looking at the application, I just want it to start running on the desktop.
[23:51] <pvl1> icehawk78,  try app &
[23:51] <VCoolio> john`: were you using irssi inside screen or byobu? then either "screen -rAad" or "byobu -x"
[23:51] <Tok`Ra> Dear ! I'm french and i have a problem but ubuntu-fr can't help me. Can i ask question here ?
[23:52] <pvl1> scribawf, do u dualboot?
[23:52] <lodger> no, i come from Italy
[23:52] <crohakon> DanaG, I must admit... this just lowered my love of linux by a great deal... It just froze and my caps lock icon on my keyboard started flashing... I was forced to reboot and then this... wtf. =(
[23:52] <john`> VCoolio: i use it inside a screen
[23:52] <DanaG> NTFS-3g really does suck, in my opinion.
[23:53] <EasyTUX> eh, I love deb503 aka lenny dependancies, HEIL GNOME: CANNOT get rid of evolution without autoremove to remove the whole gnome SHIT => PERFECT !!!
[23:53] <DanaG> Nowhere else can I get a large transfer over SATA... going at BYTES per second.
[23:53] <lodger> incredibile che ci siano cosi' tante persone che si fanno le pippe con Linux O_O
[23:53] <john`> VCoolio: but the thing is, if i close the terminal, screen won't be running anymore anyway until i activate again with the command
[23:53] <scribawf> pvl1;  no do not dual boot
[23:53] <pvl1> john`, well are you doing this just to see output
[23:53] <pvl1> scribawf, does grub load at all?
[23:53] <wrgb> mdmkolbe: they've changed it to separate programs, keyboard, mouse, and numlock is enabled by default in karmic
[23:53] <crohakon> DanaG, I was moving the files off of the external hard drive so I could format it to a different file system and put them back on.
[23:53] <seidos> Tok`Ra: what is your question?  can you ask in english?
[23:53]  * DanaG hasta' go off somewherez for a while.
[23:53] <scribawf> pvl1;  unfortunately no just hangs at GRUB
[23:54] <crohakon> DanaG, thanks for the help
[23:54] <pvl1> scribawf, any error messages
[23:54] <john`> pvl1: no, because if i open irssi and i close the terminal without typing quit.  I forget sometimes apparently.  I see a bunch of irssi program running in the background.  I just want to go back to that certain one to control it or quit it out myself.
[23:54] <scribawf> pvl1;  nothing just a  blinking cursor
[23:54] <DanaG> Did it show SOME deleted files, but not all?
[23:54] <VCoolio> john`: hm, isn't it detached?; try "screen -rAad" to reactivate
[23:54] <crohakon> DanaG, It showed nothing. No deleted files. On either drive
[23:55] <john`> of course i can always use killall irssi
[23:55] <john`> but that just odd for me
[23:55] <scribawf> pvl1;  a little history here, had earlier installed pcoslinux but couldn't get my wifi drivers to work on Gateway LT
[23:55] <DanaG> Did it show "empty", at least.... or did it look like a hang?
[23:55] <running_rabbit07> Just upgraded to Lucid, it is running great!
[23:55] <Tok`Ra> seidos: with ubuntu 9.10 i have added hdd in my fstab with accent (é) in terminal all work's fine, but in nautilus the name of my hdd is cut. exemple: for "Séries" i see "S" in nautilus
[23:55] <sp4z> running_rabbit07 what is lucid?
[23:55] <DanaG> For me, it looked like it hung for quite a while; it just took a while with no indication of progress.
[23:55] <john`> VCoolio: what does screen -rAad do?
[23:55] <scribawf> pvl1;  so just did a gparted, wiped/formated my partitions ext3 and let ubuntu karmic install
[23:55] <DanaG> hmm, that accent character appears as a question mark here.
[23:56] <running_rabbit07> sp4z: it is 10.04
[23:56] <DanaG> Looks like invalid encoding.
[23:56] <lodger> ciao vado a dormire sotto un albero
[23:56] <john`> VCoolio: would it know what the previous screen was running before i close down the terminal?
[23:56] <sp4z> running_rabbit97 10.04 of what?
[23:56] <Copywriter> hey guys, i'm thinking about going back to 8.04lts
[23:56] <pvl1> john`, well if u wanted to kill something, u could use htop or killall but ushould lookinto retty
[23:56] <running_rabbit07> sp4z: Ubuntu...
[23:56] <seidos> Tok`Ra: i have no idea, i don't have 9.10 installed, and i don't use the additional language that i have installed
[23:56] <Copywriter> is there anyone in here using the 8.04 lts version currently
[23:56] <sp4z> running_rabbit07, beta?
[23:57] <chewy> Hi
[23:57] <running_rabbit07> testing
[23:57] <Tok`Ra> okay seidos thanks you :(
[23:57] <lao5> Copywriter: me
[23:57] <seidos> Tok`Ra: sorry.  i'm not sure how i can help
[23:57] <freaky[t]> hi all. is there a possiblity to set the colors to be brighter in a console terminal? im using guake and i have problems reading the colored ls output :(
[23:57] <john`> VCoolio: everytime i start the terminal i have to run screen again, i was wondering if screen remember the program that it run from last time before i close the terminal?
[23:57] <VCoolio> john`: for me it does; I can even logout and back login in another wm / de and do it; or use it in virtual console
[23:57] <Copywriter> and can point me to something that shows how long it will still be supported
[23:57] <chewy> I am having trouble with SMTP, anyone know alot about this?
[23:57] <xiong> How is Koala working out for people on chan?
[23:57] <running_rabbit07> nowhere near beta, they haven't started writing it yet
[23:57] <crohakon> So... I want to reformat my external hard drive... I don't want NTFS or FAT*... but I want windows vista to be able to access the files on it. Do I have any options?
[23:57] <lao5> Copywriter: next year
[23:58] <Evito> i have a slight problem, i cannot use my desktop, the folder is set correctly in user_dirs.dirs
[23:58] <scribawf> !grub
[23:58] <sp4z> running_rabbit07 so how did you upgrade to it if it hasn't been written?
[23:58] <Evito> yet i cannot drop files/folders to it
[23:58] <Copywriter> thanks lao5
[23:58] <freaky[t]> how do i install icon themes in gnome?
[23:58] <lao5> Copywriter: welcome
[23:58] <running_rabbit07> sp4z: they have the kernel going with karmic on top of it
[23:58] <john`> VCoolio: let me try this, thanks and thanks pvl1 for that site.  I'll try both ways
[23:58] <seidos> Tok`Ra: if you get bored i can talk to you about your problem, but can't help you very efficiently
[23:58]  * DanaG really does have to get going now.
[23:58] <VCoolio> Evito: is nautilus drawing your desktop? Check in gconf-editor, apps > nautilus I think
[23:58] <seidos> Tok`Ra: at least you won't be alone while you troubleshoot :)
[23:59] <rsc___> is there an active project that seeks to replace Emerald as the compiz window decorator?
[23:59] <VCoolio> freaky[t]: drag and drop the .tar.gz in appearance window or extract in ~/.icons
[23:59] <sp4z> running_rabbit07 oh i see. so you just recompiled the newer kernel in karmic? or was it all precompiled?
[23:59] <Copywriter> i like karmic but it's buggy, please don't flame me, i just as a matter of opinion noticed things that don't work as they should particularly samba
[23:59] <Tok`Ra> seidos: yes, true
[23:59] <Tok`Ra> :D
[23:59] <freaky[t]> VCoolio, ok thank you :D
[23:59] <pvl1> john`, anytime
[23:59] <mdmkolbe> mdmkolbe
[23:59] <s0ber_> o/quit
[23:59] <_lance_> is there a separate channel for the current lts?
[23:59] <rsc___> is there an active project that seeks to replace Emerald as the compiz window decorator?