| rsc___ | so hey. | 00:56 |
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| rsc___ | what does it mean when something's supposed to be "tango compliant"? | 00:56 |
| coz_ | rsc___, there are requirements for tango let me see if I can find that | 00:57 |
| coz_ | rsc___, http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines | 00:58 |
| rsc___ | ah. there we go. | 00:58 |
| coz_ | rsc___, I am personally not very keen on tango icons etc but many many people are | 01:00 |
| rsc___ | i see a lot of people making a fuzz about an icon set's "tango-compliance" even on icon sets that bear little resemblance to Tango. I always assumed this was some convention on filenames, but i realized that's freedesktop's (i think) | 01:01 |
| rsc___ | neither am I really | 01:01 |
| rsc___ | at least, it's visual style with a tendency to have thick strokes when upscaled | 01:02 |
| coz_ | yes | 01:02 |
| rsc___ | but i've always found the effort it took to orchestrate and execute to be beyond admirable. | 01:02 |
| coz_ | now there is the new elementary project and it is starting up a bit slowly | 01:02 |
| coz_ | I dont see ...or actually havent looked... to see if elementary has requrements for it | 01:03 |
| rsc___ | ah, there... from what I understand, Ubuntu's new icon theme humanity is a derivative of that, and I often hear complaints today of it's tango (non-)compliance | 01:03 |
| coz_ | http://www.elementary-project.com/ | 01:03 |
| rsc___ | awesome. | 01:05 |
| coz_ | I prefer that look over tango | 01:06 |
| rsc___ | same. | 01:06 |
| rsc___ | massive improvement imho. | 01:06 |
| coz_ | rsc___, well its another choice ... and the more choices someone has regarding linux ... I believe... the better off everyone is | 01:07 |
| rsc___ | yep. | 01:07 |
| rsc___ | IMHO, it's also evolution. | 01:07 |
| rsc___ | tango was and is a great effort. | 01:07 |
| rsc___ | i bet a lot of these icon themes started as a project to improve upon tango (gnome-colors, elementary, and the likes) | 01:08 |
| coz_ | rsc___, http://www.oxygen-icons.org/ | 01:08 |
| rsc___ | and today the humanity set's a very welcome improvement to the linux desktop (in most peoples opinion anyway) | 01:08 |
| rsc___ | oxygen was good too | 01:09 |
| rsc___ | wasn't much of a fan though | 01:09 |
| coz_ | understood | 01:09 |
| mac_v | kwwii: hope you guys plan to add new sounds for Lucid... | 05:00 |
| kwwii | mac_v: dude, I wish that too | 06:15 |
| kwwii | but I can almost promise you that it will not happen because the whole chain is not in place | 06:16 |
| kwwii | then again, maybe I am just being stupid | 06:16 |
| kwwii | time for sleep | 06:16 |
| * kwwii is not in the best of mood and I apologize for it | 06:17 | |
| mac_v | thorwil_: hey , did you see the scrollbar in google wave? its kinda similar to your idea... not exactly, but sorta | 08:28 |
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| mac_v | thorwil__: ping... ;) | 14:19 |
| thorwil__ | mac_v: about to take a walk. shoot. quick. | 14:28 |
| mac_v | thorwil__: did you get my earlier IM> hey , did you see the scrollbar in google wave? its kinda similar to your idea... not exactly, but sorta | 14:28 |
| thorwil__ | mac_v: no, didn't. if i only knew what causes my recent connection problems ... | 14:29 |
| thorwil__ | mac_v: i saw them on screenshots but have no idea how the work | 14:29 |
| mac_v | thorwil__: yeah , i noticed you kept dropping out... hence ;) | 14:29 |
| mac_v | thorwil__: it works kinda similarly , the scrollbar is fixed in size | 14:29 |
| mac_v | but it does not appear where the user points | 14:30 |
| mac_v | and not sure if page scroll is present | 14:30 |
| mac_v | thorwil__: I'm sure you can also get an invite at the UDS ;p | 14:31 |
| mac_v | for google wave | 14:31 |
| mac_v | thorwil__: anyways , just wanted to mention... you could use it as a plus point when you show it to others ;) [google likes your idea] | 14:33 |
| thorwil__ | mac_v: only for the vague notion that google is willing to put something different in place of the traditional scrollbar ;) | 14:34 |
| * thorwil__ leaves | 14:34 | |
| darkmatter | hmmm... I should pester the banshee devs | 14:36 |
| mac_v | darkmatter: for the scrollbar? hyperair? | 14:37 |
| darkmatter | mac_v: had a simple idea regarding the tooltip as a replacement for the mini player. instead of just a pretty tooltip. have it as a 'popup' as sorts, toss in the controls for previous, play/pause, and next in front of the progress slider (which would be able to be interacted with), and like an icon or button to restore banshee *shrug* | 14:40 |
| darkmatter | mac_v: I believe in avoiding right-click context menus whenever possible. a ui should be fully discoverable for the most part, not hidden away :P | 14:41 |
| mac_v | darkmatter: UNR does that [avoid right-click] in some places... but I get the point , yeah the controls can appear on hover and a user should be able to just click the overlay icons | 14:45 |
| darkmatter | aye | 14:45 |
| darkmatter | anyway. I need to commit the evil act known as 'sleep' o/ | 14:52 |
| mac_v | kwwii: sent you a mail...[an idea for the monochromatic icons] just a reminder , in case you get too busy with the sprint to even check mails ;p | 17:33 |
| thorwil__ | too busy for emails but still paying attention to irc? :) | 17:34 |
| mac_v | thorwil__: well he keeps saying he gets a *lot* of mails... so this way he might try to get to the mail ;) | 17:35 |
| * thorwil__ made backups right before creating an additional account, this time. hope it will not fuck up the whole installation again | 17:36 | |
| mac_v | thorwil__: best comment by one of the UX team "Day two. Shoot me." ;) | 17:37 |
| heisemberg | hola | 17:37 |
| heisemberg | alguien habla español? | 17:37 |
| heisemberg | que requisitos se necesitan para colaborar .... | 17:38 |
| heisemberg | which are the requirements for working? | 17:40 |
| mac_v | heisemberg: most of the users speak English here... Yo no hablo español ;) | 17:40 |
| heisemberg | ok | 17:41 |
| heisemberg | then try to communicate through a translator | 17:42 |
| heisemberg | I know that conditions are needed to help in this community | 17:44 |
| mac_v | heisemberg: you can see > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork < for information about contributing to artwork | 17:48 |
| heisemberg | as I begin | 17:52 |
| thorwil | my /boot/grub is full of .mod's!! | 18:31 |
| thorwil | where's the equivalent of menu.1st? | 18:31 |
| mac_v | !grub2 | thorwil | 18:31 |
| ubottu | thorwil: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 | 18:31 |
| mac_v | thorwil: grub.cfg ,but do *not* edit it | 18:32 |
| thorwil | reading, thank you, mac_v | 18:32 |
| mac_v | np.. :) | 18:32 |
| thorwil | i see a pattern here. we used to have an editable and dead simple resolv.conf ... | 18:34 |
| * thorwil is unhappy about added complexity with no apparent gain | 18:38 | |
| mac_v | thorwil: any idea , whats with the mailing list? some mails dont arrive and some arrive late... very odd :/ | 19:09 |
| thorwil_ | mac_v: didn't notice | 19:13 |
| mac_v | thorwil_: i got saleel's mail but havent yet got the initial mails sent by kwwii , there seems to be some problems somewhere :( are you using gmail or ... ? | 19:14 |
| thorwil_ | mac_v: oh right, i sometimes do see replies arrive before what-is-replied-to. on various lists | 19:18 |
| thorwil_ | mac_v: i use a freemail provider via evolution. almost never via web interface | 19:18 |
| mac_v | ah , so then its not just me... \o/ | 19:18 |
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