[03:02] <corp186> I debugged an X crash, patched it up, and got the fix pushed upstream into the xserver git repo
[03:03] <corp186> It fixes bug 361489
[03:03] <corp186> I left a comment about this in the bug
[03:03] <corp186> is there anything else I can do to help get this fix released for ubuntu?
[03:08] <corp186> actually, I'm going to take my question to #ubuntu-x as it's a more appropriate channel
[08:22] <pitti> Good morning
[09:18] <chrisccoulson> good morning everyone
[10:37] <mvo> Amaranth: hey, have you looked into packaging compiz++ yet? I wonder if I should give it a shot
[12:27] <Amaranth> mvo: You mean for a PPA?
[12:27] <mvo> yeah
[12:28] <Amaranth> I figured I'd wait for an actual 0.9 release
[12:29] <Amaranth> 0.9 is meant to be feature complete, not necessarily stable
[12:29] <Amaranth> so until then features are missing :)
[12:29] <mvo> Amaranth: do you have a overview how much is missing at this point?
[12:30] <Amaranth> err, I mean it'll have the same features as 0.8.x minus things intentionally removed
[12:30] <Amaranth> mvo: I think just the cube addons (gears, etc) and dbus
[12:30] <Amaranth> mvo: But I don't know for sure
[12:33] <mvo> ok, thanks
[12:51] <huats> hello everyone
[13:01] <asac> hi huats
[13:03] <huats> hey asac
[13:03] <huats> how are you ?
[13:04] <asac> good ... looking forward to dallas :)
[13:05] <asac> anyone has still ffox 3.5.4? does this page: http://207.154.83.202 render something for you?
[13:06] <huats> asac, I can imagine that :)
[13:07] <mvo> asac: hey
[13:07] <mvo> asac: yes and yes
[13:07] <asac> kk
[13:09] <mvo> asac: installed 3.5.4+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.10.1 (just fyi)
[14:44] <chrisccoulson> pitti - what do you think about me updating tracker to 0.7.x this cycle?
[14:44] <chrisccoulson> mbiebl asked me last night if i had any plans to do that
[14:45] <chrisccoulson> (now it is an external dependency of gnome)
[14:50] <pitti> chrisccoulson: sounds fine; do you think there's a major risk to it?
[14:53] <chrisccoulson> pitti - it's quite a substantial change and the architecture of tracker changed a lot. although the 0.6.9x branch is still officially considered to be the "stable" branch, it doesn't really get any attention any more, and there's a lot of long standing issues which nobody is ever going to fix in that version (it's pretty much abandoned now)
[14:53] <chrisccoulson> mbiebl has been running 0.7.x for a while now, and says its starting to get quite stable and useable now
[14:53] <pitti> if 0.7 is actively maintained, that sounds like the better option then
[14:54] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i think so. and it has lots of extra benefits too (like splitting the store from the indexer, which will be reflected in the new packaging too)
[14:54] <chrisccoulson> and the bugs for 0.6.9x keep piling up in launchpad, and nobody knows what to do with them any more ;)
[15:20] <seb128> hey there
[15:20] <kenvandine> hey seb128
[15:23] <chrisccoulson> hey seb128
[15:23] <seb128> hi kenvandine chrisccoulson
[15:27] <pitti> howdy, seb128
[15:30] <seb128> hello pitti!
[15:34] <seb128> how are things in desktop land?
[15:35] <pitti> quiet today, some time to do bug triage and some bug fixing, too
[15:38] <seb128> cool
[16:46] <seb128> bbl
[16:48] <pitti> I need to leave for today, see you tomorrow!
[17:12] <Keybuk> bryce: you on leave today?
[17:26] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, what's the deal with gwibber using desktopcouch for storing profile info?
[17:28] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, uh, more specifically, what's the status of it?
[17:28]  * rickspencer3 realized it sounded like I had an issue
[17:29] <rickspencer3> well, I suppose I have lots of "issues", but you know what I mean ;)
[18:25] <gabrieleUbuntu> Hi to all. I'm unable to connect to any network using my DWL-G122 USB key. It does see networks around but it indefinitely tried to connect to them. I had this problem with Ubuntu 9.04. Now I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 having the same problem. Any suggestion, please? Thanks
[18:26] <chrisccoulson> gabrieleUbuntu, #ubuntu for support
[18:26] <mac_v> gabrieleUbuntu: #ubuntu is for help
[18:26] <mac_v> heh ;)
[18:26] <chrisccoulson> hi mac_v!
[18:27] <gabrieleUbuntu> :(
[18:27] <gabrieleUbuntu> ok
[18:27] <gabrieleUbuntu> thenks
[18:27] <gabrieleUbuntu> thanks
[18:27] <mac_v> chrisccoulson: hi... looks like the baby hasnt yet arrived ;)  \o/ we will still have some bugs fixed ;)
[18:28] <mac_v> while the team is busy at the UDS ;p
[18:28] <chrisccoulson> heh, yeah, although i do intend to carry on fixing bugs after the baby arrives ;)
[18:28] <chrisccoulson> i wish i was going to UDS!
[18:28] <chrisccoulson> seems like i'm the only person not going ;)
[18:29] <mac_v> chrisccoulson: i did a stupid thing... i decline an invite :(
[18:29] <mac_v> declined*
[18:29] <chrisccoulson> how come?
[18:30] <mac_v> chrisccoulson: i cant make it at that time , so i didnt
[18:30] <chrisccoulson> that's a shame. have you been before?
[18:30] <mac_v> my timing *always* sucks
[18:30] <mac_v> chrisccoulson: no... :( would have been my first time...
[18:30] <mac_v> hopefully i'll make it next time ;)
[18:31] <chrisccoulson> heh :)
[18:38] <seb128> hum
[18:38] <seb128> I've a friend trying to update jaunty to karmic
[18:38] <seb128> update-manager wants 1.6G of space
[18:38] <seb128> in usr
[18:43] <huats> chrisccoulson, don't worry I am not going either
[18:46] <huats> chrisccoulson, and my baby isn't here either... which is quite lucky since he is not supposed to arrive before end of january :)
[18:47] <chrisccoulson> huats - yeah, you probably don't want him to arrive just yet ;)
[18:47] <huats> :)
[18:47] <huats> indeed
[18:48] <chrisccoulson> my colleagues baby was 5 weeks early - so you could have a christmas baby ;)
[18:48] <huats> indeed...
[18:49] <huats> but I'd rather have it a bit later :D
[18:49] <chrisccoulson> hopefully ours will be here by christmas ;)
[18:49] <huats> but in that case I am not really the one who decide
[18:49] <huats> :)
[18:49] <chrisccoulson> heh, only the baby decides ;)
[21:11] <TheMuso> Hey all those in Dallas. Whats the weather like, and what is it going to be like next week?
[21:14] <rickspencer3> TheMuso, well ... it's a bit chilly in th air conditioning
[21:14] <rickspencer3> but seems warmish outside
[21:18] <dtchen_> TheMuso: 21.4C and clear now, should be partly cloudly tonight Dallas time, partly sunny tomorrow same temp, partly sunny Fri slightly warmer; next week, mostly sunny early-on, slightly cooler
[21:19] <TheMuso> Ok so teens/twenties celcius, nice/.
[21:48] <hggdh> next week is going to be a bit colder, with temps on 5C to 14C
[21:48] <hggdh> also this is Texas. If you do not like the weather, just wait a bit, and it will change (probably to something you like even less)
[21:50] <TheMuso> hggdh: Ah ok, thanks.
[22:41] <seb128> robert_ancell_, hey
[22:41] <seb128> robert_ancell_, how busy are you today? ;-)
[22:42] <robert_ancell_> seb128, hey.  depends on what horrible job you have :)
[22:42] <seb128> bug #455421 collects duplicates if you can have a look
[22:42] <seb128> crashing when changing volume while playing
[22:42] <seb128> I expect it's a gstreamer issue
[22:43] <seb128> I might try to ping slomo tomorrow about it though in case he has an idea so maybe don't hurry on it
[22:43] <robert_ancell_> ech, gstreamer again
[22:43] <seb128> and otherwise seems libmms has some issues an no upstream
[22:43] <robert_ancell_> I'll have a look
[22:44] <seb128> since you seem to be enjoy debugging things playing from the internet now working ;-)
[22:44] <seb128> joke aside that's in case you don't have anything special to do, feel free to decline
[22:44] <robert_ancell> I'm working on a simple scanning tool prototype :)
[22:44] <seb128> I see :-)
[22:45] <seb128> if you get bored we could also use a simple photo editor too apparently
[22:48] <JanC> robert_ancell: something like flegita ?
[22:49] <robert_ancell> JanC, yes but simpler and there were too many problems to make flegita work on Jaunty
[22:50] <seb128> robert_ancell, should I assign this gstreamer bug to you then?
[22:52] <JanC> robert_ancell: if you can make scanning easier, my dad will be happy  ;)
[22:52] <robert_ancell> seb128, If you know someone who knows gstreamer better assign it to them and I'll have a look in the meantine
[22:53] <seb128> robert_ancell, k I will ask slomo
[22:53] <robert_ancell> JanC, does this look easy enough? http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/I5E3F1r1asGr1VSdh5cMKA?feat=directlink
[22:54] <JanC> *ugh* stupid picasa javascripts  :P
[22:54] <robert_ancell> JanC, yeah, I was trying to find an easy way to upload an image..  Hmm I should use U1
[22:54] <JanC> imagebin.ca  ;)
[22:54] <rickspencer3_> robert_ancell, did you write that scanner app?
[22:55] <rickspencer3_> I designed an even simpler one
[22:55] <JanC> but it might be okay, don't know exactly what he expects
[22:55] <rickspencer3_> one button that says "scan" ;)
[22:55] <robert_ancell> rickspencer3_, did it yesterday afternoon.  Going to put it on LP today
[22:56] <robert_ancell> rickspencer3_, you need to hint what sort of image it is so it can decide if it should save it as jpeg, pdf, autocrop, ocr...
[22:56] <JanC> also, you need to allow people to select what they want to scan
[22:57] <robert_ancell> JanC, as in cropping?
[22:58] <JanC> well, the scanner shouldn't scan more than needed
[22:58] <JanC> no need to scan the full A4+ area if you scan a standard photo
[23:00] <JanC> plus, it might fuck up some automatic color/brightness/etc. algorhthms
[23:01]  * rickspencer3_ gets ready to fork robert_ancell's code
[23:01] <rickspencer3_> robert_ancell, did you use quickly?
[23:01] <JanC> oh, and please make sure scanning still works for professionals  ;)
[23:01] <robert_ancell> JanC, we should be able to autocrop photos.  My guess is 99% of scanners out there are fast enough that doing a full scan will cover their requirements.  Professionals install Flegita
[23:01] <robert_ancell> rickspencer3_, no, there didn't seem to be python bindings for SANE
[23:02] <robert_ancell> rickspencer3_, I thought about it though :)
[23:02] <rickspencer3_> oh, I thought it was a dbus interface
[23:02] <JanC> robert_ancell: python-imaging-sane ?  ;)
[23:02] <rickspencer3_> WARNING: Unhandled message: interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable, path=/, member=Introspect
[23:02] <rickspencer3_> scanimage: no SANE devices found
[23:03] <JanC> robert_ancell: it's an extension to PIL
[23:04] <robert_ancell> JanC, oh yeah, I did see that.  Wasn't sure if we wanted to drag in PIL or not
[23:05] <JanC> I don't mind ;)
[23:05] <robert_ancell> rickspencer3_, I think that may be Avahi
[23:06] <rickspencer3_> ah
[23:06] <rickspencer3_> dang
[23:07] <rickspencer3_> robert_ancell, your app looks sweet
[23:07] <robert_ancell> rickspencer3_, thanks
[23:08] <rickspencer3_> robert_ancell, can we call it "scanny"
[23:08] <rickspencer3_> j/k
[23:08]  * rickspencer3_ sudo rm -r scanny
[23:08] <robert_ancell> rickspencer3_, I was going to go for "Simple Scan"
[23:11]  * rickspencer3_ dents robert_ancell's picture
[23:13] <robert_ancell> does anyone know an easy way of generating pdfs?
[23:22] <seb128> robert_ancell, what do you mean generating?
[23:22] <seb128> robert_ancell, you can use cairo and output to a pdf
[23:22] <robert_ancell> seb128, ah, that's it