[01:40] <starcraft-ntbk> new doc member?
[13:59] <zul> morning
[13:59] <ttx> o/
[14:00] <mathiaz> o/
[14:01] <ttx> soren, smoser: ?
[14:01] <Daviey> \o - Apologies, can't be here for the meeting - please see my comments on the ubuntu-server ml regarding spamassassin
[14:01] <ttx> Daviey: will read -- see you next week ;)
[14:01] <Daviey> \o
[14:01] <smoser> 0/
[14:01]  * stgraber waves
[14:02] <ttx> #startmeeting
[14:02] <MootBot> Meeting started at 08:02. The chair is ttx.
[14:02] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[14:02] <ttx> Today's agenda:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting
[14:02] <ttx> [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[14:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[14:03] <ttx> ACTION: kirkland to add a recipe covering virsh to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/VirtManager
[14:03] <ttx> kirkland left a note about that on the meeting agenda
[14:03] <ttx> Done -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/VirtManager and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Virsh
[14:03] <ttx> ACTION: nurmi to investigate bug 455625
[14:03] <ttx> I don't think nurmi is around
[14:04] <ttx> I'll add two more two his list, since absents are always wrong...
[14:05] <ttx> [ACTION] numri to help validation/fixing bugs 460085 and bug 461156
[14:05] <MootBot> ACTION received:  numri to help validation/fixing bugs 460085 and bug 461156
[14:05] <ttx> smoser: no progress on that last one ?
[14:05] <soren> o/
[14:05] <smoser> no. i've not gotten around to digging there, and have sent irc pings but no response.
[14:05] <ttx> ok
[14:05] <ttx> ACTION: Daviey to investigate spamassassin status in lucid
[14:06] <ttx> Daviey sent an update about this on ubuntu-server ML
[14:06] <soren> He said he'd sent somethign to the...
[14:06] <soren> right.
[14:06] <ttx> ACTION: mathiaz to update the fridge
[14:06] <mathiaz> ttx: sent an email to news teeam
[14:07] <ttx> mathiaz: change is not effective yet ?
[14:07] <mathiaz> ttx: it is actually
[14:07] <ttx> good :)
[14:07] <ttx> [TOPIC] UDS: server track planning
[14:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  UDS: server track planning
[14:08]  * nijaba waves
[14:08] <ttx> mdz is not around, but he should work on scheduling the server track before the end of the week.
[14:08] <ttx> If you want to make sure he doesn't miss your blueprint, please name it server-lucid-* and set him as approver.
[14:09] <ttx> There can be two parallel sessions in the server track (as with other tracks)
[14:10] <ttx> so you should subscribe to the blueprints you are interested in to try to avoid scheduling conflicts
[14:10] <ttx> Any questions ?
[14:10] <zul> nope
[14:11] <zul> mdz is leading the tracks?
[14:11] <ttx> stgraber: some of yours are close to some others
[14:11] <ttx> zul: yes
[14:11] <ttx> server-lucid-desktop-cloud and server-lucid-nx
[14:11] <ttx> server-lucid-contextualization and server-lucid-non-accel-virt
[14:11] <ttx> Those might get scheduled on the same slot, I don't really know.
[14:11] <stgraber> ttx: right, I guess some of them weren't visible on LP at the time I added mine
[14:12] <ttx> stgraber: they probably were, but blueprint search is not so good :)
[14:12] <ttx> ok, moving on...
[14:12] <ttx> [TOPIC] Merging, merging, merging
[14:12] <stgraber> well, for the NX one, I guess we can discuss the big picture at one and the specific of getting NX in at the other
[14:13] <ttx> stgraber: right
[14:13] <MootBot> New Topic:  Merging, merging, merging
[14:13] <ttx> Lucid is open for merging, which is a great way to learn packaging for starters
[14:13] <stgraber> the other doesn't mention contextualization but alternate virtualization technologies, that's quite different (at least from my point of view)
[14:14] <ttx> stgraber: ok
[14:14] <ttx> mathiaz: do you think we should compile a list of easy merges ?
[14:14] <mathiaz> ttx: we could
[14:14] <mathiaz> ttx: it seems to have helped last time
[14:15] <ttx> mathiaz: do you have time to do that ?
[14:15] <mathiaz> ttx: I can have a look at it
[14:15] <ttx> + the relevant blogging publicity ?
[14:15] <ttx> ok
[14:15] <mathiaz> ttx: sure
[14:15] <ttx> [ACTION] mathiaz to compile a list of easy merges for publication
[14:15] <MootBot> ACTION received:  mathiaz to compile a list of easy merges for publication
[14:16] <ttx> mathiaz: note that there are quite a few easy Java library merges, however we are trying to commit to debian-java in parallel, so it might make sense to keep those alone
[14:17]  * mathiaz oks
[14:17] <ttx> Comments on the subject of merging ?
[14:17] <zul> there is a couple of syncs already taken care of as well
[14:17] <ttx> does the MoM output update ?
[14:18] <mathiaz> ttx: it should
[14:18] <ttx> It didn't reflect my merging so far
[14:19] <ttx> looks stuck at Nov 9
[14:19] <zul> yeah it looks like it hasnt been updated
[14:19] <mathiaz> ttx: yeah - Keybuk kicked off a new instance of MoM
[14:19] <mathiaz> ttx: as it used to sync from unstable
[14:20] <ttx> mathiaz: ...
[14:20] <mathiaz> ttx: it may take some time to do the first round of merges of testing
[14:20] <ttx> ok
[14:20] <ttx> [TOPIC] Assigned and to-be-assigned bugs
[14:20] <MootBot> New Topic:  Assigned and to-be-assigned bugs
[14:20] <mathiaz> ttx: so I don't know how usefull MoM is for now
[14:21] <ttx> http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/team-assigned/canonical-server-assigned-bug-tasks.html
[14:21] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/team-assigned/canonical-server-assigned-bug-tasks.html
[14:21] <ttx> Nothing needs assignment, comments on other bugs ?
[14:21] <zul> nope
[14:21] <ttx> I'll retest the eucalyptus in -proposed sometime today
[14:22] <mathiaz> ttx: great thanks
[14:23] <ttx> Moving on...
[14:23] <ttx> [TOPIC] Weekly SRU review
[14:23] <MootBot> New Topic:  Weekly SRU review
[14:23] <ttx> mathiaz: mind driving that part ?
[14:23] <mathiaz> ttx: nope
[14:23] <mathiaz> let's go ahead for the list review
[14:24] <mathiaz> http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server-team/fixedbugs.ubuntu-server.latest.html
[14:24] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server-team/fixedbugs.ubuntu-server.latest.html
[14:24] <zul> i have 2
[14:24] <mathiaz> anything worth SRU on this list?
[14:24] <zul> bug #403775
[14:25] <zul> and bug #479250
[14:25] <ttx> zul:  which series is affected ?
[14:25] <zul> both are for hardy
[14:26] <Keybuk> ttx: actually merges.ubuntu.com is entirely based off testing
[14:26] <Keybuk> it's stuck at Nov 9 because that's when the first v3 source package hit testing ;)
[14:27] <ttx> Keybuk: so the reports are not regenerated with new packages uploaded to lucid ?
[14:27] <Keybuk> correct
[14:28] <ttx> Keybuk: is that a bug or a feature ? :)
[14:28] <Keybuk> that it can't process v3 packages?
[14:28] <Keybuk> it's an RT ticket
[14:28] <ttx> Keybuk: ok, thx
[14:29] <mathiaz> ok - so all nomination lists are empty
[14:29] <mathiaz> http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server-team/acceptedbugs.ubuntu-server.latest.html
[14:29] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server-team/acceptedbugs.ubuntu-server.latest.html
[14:29] <mathiaz> ^^ list of accepted bugs that have an assignee
[14:29] <mathiaz> the eucalyptus SRU is on its way
[14:29] <ttx> zul: there is a new candidate for samba sru (again) something about winbind
[14:29] <zul> ttx: yeah I saw that this morning
[14:30] <zul> i wanted to talk to you about it first
[14:30] <ttx> bug 479955
[14:30] <mathiaz> zul: how are other SRU doing for hardy?
[14:30] <ttx> zul: ok, off-meeting
[14:30] <zul> mathiaz: good just looking for testers as usual
[14:31] <mathiaz> zul: ok
[14:31] <mathiaz> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+activereviews
[14:31] <mathiaz> is empty
[14:31] <mathiaz> zul: are you using package branches?
[14:31] <zul> mathiaz: yep just been concentrating on lucid this week
[14:32] <mathiaz> zul: great.
[14:32] <mathiaz> that's all for the weekly SRU review
[14:32] <ttx> thanks mathiaz !
[14:32] <ttx> [TOPIC] Open Discussion
[14:32] <MootBot> New Topic:  Open Discussion
[14:33] <ttx> Who will be in not-so-sunny Dallas next week ?
[14:33]  * stgraber waves
[14:33] <zul> mememememme
[14:33] <mathiaz> o/
[14:33] <mjeanson> o/
[14:34]  * zul is looking forward to wearing short
[14:34] <ttx> A texan once told me that it never rained in Texas, but apparently he lied
[14:34] <zul> shorts even
[14:34] <ttx> http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USTX0327?from=36hr_topnav_undeclared
[14:34] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USTX0327?from=36hr_topnav_undeclared
[14:35] <ttx> Looks like... Dublin in summer.
[14:35]  * nijaba wonders in what list should 450044 appear.  Status has not changed since last week.
[14:36] <ttx> bug 450044
[14:36] <nijaba> ttx: you had agreed last week that it was SRU worthy
[14:36] <ttx> I did ?
[14:36]  * nijaba thinks so...
[14:37] <ttx> note that I wasn't present at last week meeting ...
[14:37] <mathiaz> euca2ools is not part of the packages to which the ubuntu-server team is a bug contact
[14:37] <ttx> ah-ah
[14:37] <ttx> mathiaz: it should
[14:38] <mathiaz> ttx: it is now
[14:38] <ttx> I admit some ignorance on how euca-bundle-vol should behave
[14:38] <nijaba> ttx: it is fixed in eucalyptus, according to neil soman
[14:39] <nijaba> ttx: I think it would be a good idea to allow a very common operation to work with UEC
[14:39] <ttx> nijaba: ok, adding to my list, though I'm quite busy those days
[14:40] <nijaba> ttx: I bet you are, but sometime is better than never :)
[14:40]  * ttx wonders when was the last time he was /not/ busy
[14:40]  * nijaba just wanted to make sure this bug was not forgotten
[14:40] <ttx> any other subject ?
[14:41] <zul> ttx: before you started working on ubuntu?
[14:41] <ttx> zul: no, at the very beginning, I remember having some free time.
[14:42] <ttx> [TOPIC] Next meeting date and time
[14:42] <MootBot> New Topic:  Next meeting date and time
[14:42] <ttx> We'll skip next week
[14:42] <ttx> and be back on Nov 25, probably 1400 UTC again
[14:43] <ttx> though we are still trying to better accomodate the west coast.
[14:43] <mathiaz> works for me
[14:43] <ttx> #endmeeting
[14:43] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 08:43.
[14:43] <nijaba> Thanks ttx
[14:44] <mathiaz> thanks ttx
[14:44] <nijaba> See you in Dalla
[14:44] <nijaba> Dallas too :)
[14:44] <stgraber> thx, see you all in Dallas
[14:46] <ttx> o/
[16:59] <davmor2> hello
[17:00] <ara> hello
[17:01] <cr3> ahoy, mateys
[17:01] <ara> today all the US folks won't attend, so it should be a quick meeting :-)
[17:02] <ara> OK, let's start
[17:02] <ara> #startmeeting
[17:02] <MootBot> Meeting started at 11:02. The chair is ara.
[17:02] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[17:03] <ara> Agenda:
[17:03] <ara> # SRU testing -- sbeattie (Steve Beattie)
[17:03] <ara> # Bugday highlights -- pedro
[17:03] <ara> # Testing Team blueprint
[17:03] <ara> [TOPIC] -  SRU testing -- sbeattie (Steve Beattie)
[17:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  -  SRU testing -- sbeattie (Steve Beattie)
[17:03] <ara> sbeattie is on holiday, but he asked me to pass his SRU report here
[17:04] <ara> he's very committed :-)
[17:04] <ara> Stable Release Update (SRU) Acivity for the past week (since 2009-11-04):
[17:04] <ara> * karmic: 40 new packages in -proposed and 46 packages pushed to -updates
[17:04] <ara> * jaunty: 3 new packages in -proposed (clamav, kvm, landscape-client) and 4 packages pushed to -updates (isdnutils, kdepim, pm-utils, pythonmagick)
[17:04] <ara> * intrepid: no package activity (except security updates)
[17:04] <ara> * hardy: 2 new packages in -proposed (apache2, lilo-installer) and 1 package pushed to -updates (pidgin)
[17:04] <ara> * dapper: no package activity (except security updates)
[17:05] <ara> Thanks to Simon Déziel, Id2ndR, madbiologist, Bernhard, Kenneth Pålsson, Charles Curley, Ariel Faigon, Francis Russell, mzc, Lemmiwinks, Brian O'Keefe, fabrice_sp, sigvdr, Psycona, Luca Ferretti, Roman Fiedler, squishlikeabug, nentis, Edward, Evan Broder, Imre Gergely, Alex Muntada, Anders Virving, Neil Messenbird , cochisebt, Andreas Wenning, Rod Davison, Christophe Sauthier, Nicolas Adenis-Lamarre, Stephen Laverty, Matti Hi
[17:05] <ara> ljanen, starslights, Matej Kenda, Mattias Holmlund, Paul Elliott, olive, YoBoY, prometheus, Peter Whittaker, Peter Lyons, Nathan Handler, Andrea Veria, Alessio Treglia, las, Tobias Kerzenmacher and others for testing SRUs this week.
[17:05] <ara> Lots of people!
[17:05] <pedro_> things are looking good there, as per http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
[17:05] <ara> help would be appreciated with SRUs that have been sitting in the -proposed queue for a while (http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html lists the length of time a given package has been waiting).
[17:06] <pedro_> yeah, especially bug 444979 and bug 462626
[17:07] <pedro_> thanks for nothing ubottu
[17:07] <ara> nice, Launchpad :)
[17:08] <ara> OK, next topic
[17:08] <pedro_> well those are the oldest sru there, so might need a bit more of attention
[17:08] <ara> indeed
[17:08] <ara> one wonders where the original reporter is :)
[17:08] <ara> [TOPIC] Bugday highlights -- pedro
[17:08] <MootBot> New Topic:  Bugday highlights -- pedro
[17:08] <ara> pedro_ even
[17:09] <pedro_> right so past week we had the Gwibber hug day https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20091105
[17:09] <pedro_> not a lot of people contributed though, but we managed to triage a lot of reports there
[17:09] <ara> who is kamus?
[17:09] <pedro_> ~48 or so
[17:09] <ara> he/she did a great job there
[17:10] <pedro_> ah kamus is a bugsquad member, he's always rocking on the bug days
[17:10] <pedro_> yes big thank to him and to Adam
[17:10] <pedro_> and tomorrow we're having a bug day based on Nautilus https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20091112
[17:11] <pedro_> so any help is more than welcome
[17:12] <pedro_> that's all from here
[17:12] <ara> OK
[17:12] <ara> [TOPIC] Testing Team blueprint -- ara
[17:12] <MootBot> New Topic:  Testing Team blueprint -- ara
[17:12] <ara> OK, as you may now know, we want to improve the way we test in Ubuntu for Lucid
[17:13] <ara> We are working on creating a new Testing team with regular meetings, mailing list, roadmaps etc.
[17:13] <ara> We are going to be discussing the topic in UDS Dallas, so if you are interested, please, subscribe to the blueprint
[17:13] <ara> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lucid-qa-testing-team
[17:14] <ara> also, in the Spec, under BoF agenda, you can add the items you think are worth discussing
[17:14] <ara> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/TestingTeam
[17:14] <pedro_> is that blueprint/discussion already scheduled?
[17:15] <ara> yes, it is wednesday, in the latest slot of the day (IIRC)
[17:15] <pedro_> maybe people can attend to it remotely, IRC always help
[17:15] <pedro_> cool
[17:15] <ara> yes, of course, remote attendees are more than welcome
[17:16] <davmor2> not that late I don't think I will
[17:17] <ara> davmor2, :)
[17:17] <ara> OK, that's everything for me
[17:17] <ara> anything else?
[17:17] <davmor2> Nope
[17:18] <ara> any other topics?
[17:18] <davmor2> nope
[17:18] <pedro_> noup just a quick question
[17:19] <ara> pedro_, yes?
[17:19] <pedro_> regarding the uds schedule, do you know why the sessions don't appear on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-l/track/qa/
[17:20] <pedro_> but they do on the daily ones
[17:20] <ara> pedro_, I think per track is broken in the summit site
[17:20] <ara> jono ? ^
[17:20] <pedro_> i'm a bit confuse about that
[17:21] <ara> I will ask jono again and will send an email about to ubuntu-qa
[17:22] <pedro_> ah might be that, not really important though just a little doubt
[17:22] <pedro_> ara, awesome, thank you
[17:22] <ara> OK, I think we can wrap up
[17:23] <ara> #endmeeting
[17:23] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 11:22.
[17:23] <ara> Thanks guys :)
[17:23] <pedro_> thanks
[17:23] <davmor2> bye
[17:27] <jono> ara, that is broken, known bug
[17:27] <jono> jcastro ^
[17:27] <jono> a fix is in the works
[17:27] <jono> jcastro can follow up
[17:28] <ara> thanks jono
[23:53] <johnvilsack> Greetings folks!  The Ubuntu Community Marketing Team meeting will begin in about ten minutes.  I'd like to give folks a few minutes to gather and come in if they would like :)
[23:54] <johnvilsack> If I'm doing this wrong, please let me know :)  This is my first time moderating such a meeting here.
[23:54] <DPic> doing great johnvilsack =]
[23:54] <johnvilsack> I appreciate the encouragement! :)