[01:40] new doc member? === asac_ is now known as asac === jono_ is now known as jono === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === Zic is now known as Guest27914 === Guest27914 is now known as Zic === imlad|afk is now known as imlad|away === imlad|away is now known as imlad === imlad is now known as imlad|away [13:59] morning [13:59] o/ [14:00] o/ [14:01] soren, smoser: ? [14:01] \o - Apologies, can't be here for the meeting - please see my comments on the ubuntu-server ml regarding spamassassin [14:01] Daviey: will read -- see you next week ;) [14:01] \o [14:01] 0/ [14:01] * stgraber waves [14:02] #startmeeting [14:02] Meeting started at 08:02. The chair is ttx. [14:02] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [14:02] Today's agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting [14:02] [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting [14:02] New Topic: Review ACTION points from previous meeting [14:03] ACTION: kirkland to add a recipe covering virsh to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/VirtManager [14:03] kirkland left a note about that on the meeting agenda [14:03] Done -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/VirtManager and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Virsh [14:03] ACTION: nurmi to investigate bug 455625 [14:03] Launchpad bug 455625 in eucalyptus "Eucalyptus Loses Public IP Address" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/455625 [14:03] I don't think nurmi is around [14:04] I'll add two more two his list, since absents are always wrong... [14:05] [ACTION] numri to help validation/fixing bugs 460085 and bug 461156 [14:05] ACTION received: numri to help validation/fixing bugs 460085 and bug 461156 [14:05] Launchpad bug 460085 in eucalyptus "memory leak; rampart_context not freed (memory leaked per connection)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/460085 [14:05] Launchpad bug 461156 in euca2ools "User data is not parsed correctly by Eucalyptus in some cases" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/461156 [14:05] smoser: no progress on that last one ? [14:05] o/ [14:05] no. i've not gotten around to digging there, and have sent irc pings but no response. [14:05] ok [14:05] ACTION: Daviey to investigate spamassassin status in lucid [14:06] Daviey sent an update about this on ubuntu-server ML [14:06] He said he'd sent somethign to the... [14:06] right. [14:06] ACTION: mathiaz to update the fridge [14:06] ttx: sent an email to news teeam [14:07] mathiaz: change is not effective yet ? [14:07] ttx: it is actually [14:07] good :) [14:07] [TOPIC] UDS: server track planning [14:07] New Topic: UDS: server track planning [14:08] * nijaba waves [14:08] mdz is not around, but he should work on scheduling the server track before the end of the week. [14:08] If you want to make sure he doesn't miss your blueprint, please name it server-lucid-* and set him as approver. [14:09] There can be two parallel sessions in the server track (as with other tracks) [14:10] so you should subscribe to the blueprints you are interested in to try to avoid scheduling conflicts [14:10] Any questions ? [14:10] nope [14:11] mdz is leading the tracks? [14:11] stgraber: some of yours are close to some others [14:11] zul: yes [14:11] server-lucid-desktop-cloud and server-lucid-nx [14:11] server-lucid-contextualization and server-lucid-non-accel-virt [14:11] Those might get scheduled on the same slot, I don't really know. [14:11] ttx: right, I guess some of them weren't visible on LP at the time I added mine [14:12] stgraber: they probably were, but blueprint search is not so good :) [14:12] ok, moving on... [14:12] [TOPIC] Merging, merging, merging [14:12] well, for the NX one, I guess we can discuss the big picture at one and the specific of getting NX in at the other [14:13] stgraber: right [14:13] New Topic: Merging, merging, merging [14:13] Lucid is open for merging, which is a great way to learn packaging for starters [14:13] the other doesn't mention contextualization but alternate virtualization technologies, that's quite different (at least from my point of view) [14:14] stgraber: ok [14:14] mathiaz: do you think we should compile a list of easy merges ? [14:14] ttx: we could [14:14] ttx: it seems to have helped last time [14:15] mathiaz: do you have time to do that ? [14:15] ttx: I can have a look at it [14:15] + the relevant blogging publicity ? [14:15] ok [14:15] ttx: sure [14:15] [ACTION] mathiaz to compile a list of easy merges for publication [14:15] ACTION received: mathiaz to compile a list of easy merges for publication [14:16] mathiaz: note that there are quite a few easy Java library merges, however we are trying to commit to debian-java in parallel, so it might make sense to keep those alone [14:17] * mathiaz oks [14:17] Comments on the subject of merging ? [14:17] there is a couple of syncs already taken care of as well [14:17] does the MoM output update ? [14:18] ttx: it should [14:18] It didn't reflect my merging so far [14:19] looks stuck at Nov 9 [14:19] yeah it looks like it hasnt been updated [14:19] ttx: yeah - Keybuk kicked off a new instance of MoM [14:19] ttx: as it used to sync from unstable [14:20] mathiaz: ... [14:20] ttx: it may take some time to do the first round of merges of testing [14:20] ok [14:20] [TOPIC] Assigned and to-be-assigned bugs [14:20] New Topic: Assigned and to-be-assigned bugs [14:20] ttx: so I don't know how usefull MoM is for now [14:21] http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/team-assigned/canonical-server-assigned-bug-tasks.html [14:21] LINK received: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/team-assigned/canonical-server-assigned-bug-tasks.html === imlad|away is now known as imlad [14:21] Nothing needs assignment, comments on other bugs ? [14:21] nope [14:21] I'll retest the eucalyptus in -proposed sometime today [14:22] ttx: great thanks [14:23] Moving on... [14:23] [TOPIC] Weekly SRU review [14:23] New Topic: Weekly SRU review [14:23] mathiaz: mind driving that part ? [14:23] ttx: nope [14:23] let's go ahead for the list review [14:24] http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server-team/fixedbugs.ubuntu-server.latest.html [14:24] LINK received: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server-team/fixedbugs.ubuntu-server.latest.html [14:24] i have 2 [14:24] anything worth SRU on this list? [14:24] bug #403775 [14:24] Launchpad bug 403775 in krb5 "passwd fails when kerberos server points to an IPv6 host" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/403775 [14:25] and bug #479250 [14:25] Launchpad bug 479250 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "ORDER BY DESC in InnoDB not working" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/479250 [14:25] zul: which series is affected ? [14:25] both are for hardy [14:26] ttx: actually merges.ubuntu.com is entirely based off testing [14:26] it's stuck at Nov 9 because that's when the first v3 source package hit testing ;) [14:27] Keybuk: so the reports are not regenerated with new packages uploaded to lucid ? [14:27] correct [14:28] Keybuk: is that a bug or a feature ? :) [14:28] that it can't process v3 packages? [14:28] it's an RT ticket [14:28] Keybuk: ok, thx [14:29] ok - so all nomination lists are empty [14:29] http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server-team/acceptedbugs.ubuntu-server.latest.html [14:29] LINK received: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server-team/acceptedbugs.ubuntu-server.latest.html [14:29] ^^ list of accepted bugs that have an assignee [14:29] the eucalyptus SRU is on its way [14:29] zul: there is a new candidate for samba sru (again) something about winbind [14:29] ttx: yeah I saw that this morning [14:30] i wanted to talk to you about it first [14:30] bug 479955 [14:30] Launchpad bug 479955 in samba "winbind authentication fails after karmic upgrade" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/479955 [14:30] zul: how are other SRU doing for hardy? [14:30] zul: ok, off-meeting [14:30] mathiaz: good just looking for testers as usual [14:31] zul: ok [14:31] https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+activereviews [14:31] is empty [14:31] zul: are you using package branches? [14:31] mathiaz: yep just been concentrating on lucid this week [14:32] zul: great. [14:32] that's all for the weekly SRU review [14:32] thanks mathiaz ! [14:32] [TOPIC] Open Discussion [14:32] New Topic: Open Discussion [14:33] Who will be in not-so-sunny Dallas next week ? [14:33] * stgraber waves [14:33] mememememme [14:33] o/ [14:33] o/ [14:34] * zul is looking forward to wearing short [14:34] A texan once told me that it never rained in Texas, but apparently he lied [14:34] shorts even [14:34] http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USTX0327?from=36hr_topnav_undeclared [14:34] LINK received: http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USTX0327?from=36hr_topnav_undeclared [14:35] Looks like... Dublin in summer. [14:35] * nijaba wonders in what list should 450044 appear. Status has not changed since last week. [14:36] bug 450044 [14:36] Launchpad bug 450044 in euca2ools "euca-bundle-vol does not create essential tmpfs mounts when bundling Ubuntu images" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/450044 [14:36] ttx: you had agreed last week that it was SRU worthy [14:36] I did ? [14:36] * nijaba thinks so... [14:37] note that I wasn't present at last week meeting ... [14:37] euca2ools is not part of the packages to which the ubuntu-server team is a bug contact [14:37] ah-ah [14:37] mathiaz: it should [14:38] ttx: it is now [14:38] I admit some ignorance on how euca-bundle-vol should behave [14:38] ttx: it is fixed in eucalyptus, according to neil soman [14:39] ttx: I think it would be a good idea to allow a very common operation to work with UEC [14:39] nijaba: ok, adding to my list, though I'm quite busy those days [14:40] ttx: I bet you are, but sometime is better than never :) [14:40] * ttx wonders when was the last time he was /not/ busy [14:40] * nijaba just wanted to make sure this bug was not forgotten [14:40] any other subject ? [14:41] ttx: before you started working on ubuntu? [14:41] zul: no, at the very beginning, I remember having some free time. [14:42] [TOPIC] Next meeting date and time [14:42] New Topic: Next meeting date and time [14:42] We'll skip next week [14:42] and be back on Nov 25, probably 1400 UTC again [14:43] though we are still trying to better accomodate the west coast. [14:43] works for me [14:43] #endmeeting [14:43] Meeting finished at 08:43. [14:43] Thanks ttx [14:44] thanks ttx [14:44] See you in Dalla [14:44] Dallas too :) [14:44] thx, see you all in Dallas [14:46] o/ === quinda1 is now known as etali [16:59] hello [17:00] hello [17:01] ahoy, mateys [17:01] today all the US folks won't attend, so it should be a quick meeting :-) [17:02] OK, let's start [17:02] #startmeeting [17:02] Meeting started at 11:02. The chair is ara. [17:02] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [17:03] Agenda: [17:03] # SRU testing -- sbeattie (Steve Beattie) [17:03] # Bugday highlights -- pedro [17:03] # Testing Team blueprint [17:03] [TOPIC] - SRU testing -- sbeattie (Steve Beattie) [17:03] New Topic: - SRU testing -- sbeattie (Steve Beattie) [17:03] sbeattie is on holiday, but he asked me to pass his SRU report here [17:04] he's very committed :-) [17:04] Stable Release Update (SRU) Acivity for the past week (since 2009-11-04): [17:04] * karmic: 40 new packages in -proposed and 46 packages pushed to -updates [17:04] * jaunty: 3 new packages in -proposed (clamav, kvm, landscape-client) and 4 packages pushed to -updates (isdnutils, kdepim, pm-utils, pythonmagick) [17:04] * intrepid: no package activity (except security updates) [17:04] * hardy: 2 new packages in -proposed (apache2, lilo-installer) and 1 package pushed to -updates (pidgin) [17:04] * dapper: no package activity (except security updates) [17:05] Thanks to Simon Déziel, Id2ndR, madbiologist, Bernhard, Kenneth Pålsson, Charles Curley, Ariel Faigon, Francis Russell, mzc, Lemmiwinks, Brian O'Keefe, fabrice_sp, sigvdr, Psycona, Luca Ferretti, Roman Fiedler, squishlikeabug, nentis, Edward, Evan Broder, Imre Gergely, Alex Muntada, Anders Virving, Neil Messenbird , cochisebt, Andreas Wenning, Rod Davison, Christophe Sauthier, Nicolas Adenis-Lamarre, Stephen Laverty, Matti Hi [17:05] ljanen, starslights, Matej Kenda, Mattias Holmlund, Paul Elliott, olive, YoBoY, prometheus, Peter Whittaker, Peter Lyons, Nathan Handler, Andrea Veria, Alessio Treglia, las, Tobias Kerzenmacher and others for testing SRUs this week. [17:05] Lots of people! [17:05] things are looking good there, as per http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html [17:05] help would be appreciated with SRUs that have been sitting in the -proposed queue for a while (http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html lists the length of time a given package has been waiting). [17:06] yeah, especially bug 444979 and bug 462626 [17:06] Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: HTTP Error 503: Service Temporarily Unavailable (https://launchpad.net/bugs/444979) [17:06] Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: HTTP Error 503: Service Temporarily Unavailable (https://launchpad.net/bugs/462626) [17:07] thanks for nothing ubottu [17:07] nice, Launchpad :) [17:08] OK, next topic [17:08] well those are the oldest sru there, so might need a bit more of attention [17:08] indeed [17:08] one wonders where the original reporter is :) [17:08] [TOPIC] Bugday highlights -- pedro [17:08] New Topic: Bugday highlights -- pedro [17:08] pedro_ even [17:09] right so past week we had the Gwibber hug day https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20091105 [17:09] not a lot of people contributed though, but we managed to triage a lot of reports there [17:09] who is kamus? [17:09] ~48 or so [17:09] he/she did a great job there [17:10] ah kamus is a bugsquad member, he's always rocking on the bug days [17:10] yes big thank to him and to Adam [17:10] and tomorrow we're having a bug day based on Nautilus https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20091112 [17:11] so any help is more than welcome [17:12] that's all from here [17:12] OK [17:12] [TOPIC] Testing Team blueprint -- ara [17:12] New Topic: Testing Team blueprint -- ara [17:12] OK, as you may now know, we want to improve the way we test in Ubuntu for Lucid [17:13] We are working on creating a new Testing team with regular meetings, mailing list, roadmaps etc. [17:13] We are going to be discussing the topic in UDS Dallas, so if you are interested, please, subscribe to the blueprint [17:13] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lucid-qa-testing-team [17:14] also, in the Spec, under BoF agenda, you can add the items you think are worth discussing [17:14] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/TestingTeam [17:14] is that blueprint/discussion already scheduled? [17:15] yes, it is wednesday, in the latest slot of the day (IIRC) [17:15] maybe people can attend to it remotely, IRC always help [17:15] cool === YDdraigGoch is now known as Richie [17:15] yes, of course, remote attendees are more than welcome [17:16] not that late I don't think I will [17:17] davmor2, :) [17:17] OK, that's everything for me [17:17] anything else? [17:17] Nope [17:18] any other topics? [17:18] nope [17:18] noup just a quick question [17:19] pedro_, yes? [17:19] regarding the uds schedule, do you know why the sessions don't appear on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-l/track/qa/ [17:20] but they do on the daily ones [17:20] pedro_, I think per track is broken in the summit site [17:20] jono ? ^ [17:20] i'm a bit confuse about that [17:21] I will ask jono again and will send an email about to ubuntu-qa [17:22] ah might be that, not really important though just a little doubt [17:22] ara, awesome, thank you [17:22] OK, I think we can wrap up [17:23] #endmeeting [17:23] Meeting finished at 11:22. [17:23] Thanks guys :) [17:23] thanks [17:23] bye [17:27] ara, that is broken, known bug [17:27] jcastro ^ [17:27] a fix is in the works [17:27] jcastro can follow up === robbiew is now known as robbiew_ [17:28] thanks jono === robbiew is now known as robbiew_ === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === lamont is now known as lamont` === lamont` is now known as lamont === lan3y is now known as Laney === popey_ is now known as popey === stgraber_ is now known as stgraber === VicMac is now known as OK5KM [23:53] Greetings folks! The Ubuntu Community Marketing Team meeting will begin in about ten minutes. I'd like to give folks a few minutes to gather and come in if they would like :) [23:54] If I'm doing this wrong, please let me know :) This is my first time moderating such a meeting here. [23:54] doing great johnvilsack =] [23:54] I appreciate the encouragement! :)