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mathiazkirkland: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~mathiaz/+specs?role=registrant&searchtext=server-lucid00:06
linux_dr#cakephp00:19
xperia2hello to all. have a question about bind. i am able to access my server over the web domain "mydomain.com" but "www.mydomain.com" wont work. it looks like i need to added a new entry to the bind 9 file db.mydomain.com00:19
RoyKxperia2: did    you add it? did you update the serial? did you reload?00:21
xperia2RoyK: dont want to break the file as i dont know what exactly i have to put for a line in this file00:22
xperia2will upload the file to pastebin so you can see it00:22
xperia2RoyK: okay this here is the file with my entrys http://pastebin.com/d1d5e040100:23
xperia2it would be great to know what i need to change so both version of the domain "www.mydomain.com" and "mydomain.com" works !00:24
RoyKxperia2: the serial at line 8 must be updated for the zone to be reloaded. the usual way to to set this is YYYYMMDDXX where XX is a counter00:24
RoyKto add www, just  add00:25
RoyKwww     IN      A       80.254.182.24900:25
RoyKor even better a cname00:25
RoyKas in00:25
RoyKWWW IN CNAME wificom.ch.00:25
RoyKcname is an alias00:25
xperia2RoyK: wooow very intersting !00:26
xperia2will change this now as you said !00:26
RoyKnext time, look up the bind docs00:26
RoyKalso, set TTL to something lower00:27
xperia2well i have allready the ubuntu wiki pages opened and looked but i dont wanted to break something.00:27
RoyKit's set to 7 days00:27
RoyKset it to 86400 (24 hours) or perhaps even 7200 (two hours(00:27
RoyKs/.$/)/00:27
xperia2and the wikipages dont really tell what is needed to be done for resolving this problem.00:27
RoyKhttp://www.bind9.net/manuals is a fine place   to start00:28
twbRoyK: does "IN" denote an "IN" record, or is that just some command's format for an A record?00:28
RoyK'internet'00:28
RoyKas in ipv400:28
xperia2RoyK: ahh okay :-) i look allways at the wiki pages !00:28
twbRight, thanks00:28
ScottKActually IN is a DNS record class.00:30
xperia2RoyK: a specific question. if i want also to have subdomains like "www.sub1.mydomain.com" and also "sub1.mydomain.com" what is the better solution ?00:30
ScottKIt is the only one in use at the moment00:30
RoyK$ORIGIN sub1.mydomain.com00:31
RoyKwww IN A x.x.x.x00:31
RoyKin that order00:31
RoyKor just www.sub1.mydomain.com. in a x.x.x.x00:31
RoyKmark the period at the end of .com.00:31
xperia2no i want to have about 10 sub domains00:31
RoyKthat means "don't add the origin defined above"00:32
xperia2but i am wondering if i should use the cname entry00:32
twbWouldn't it be better for each machine to have a "real" name, like "zippy", and then CNAME www to zippy, and for the domain root (example.net) have something smart enough to redirect to www.example.net for port 80 and mail.example.net for port 25, and so on?00:32
twbThe latter being an MX, I guess00:32
RoyKxperia2: this isn't really an ubuntu question, but keep it short, and I'll answer it. it's a bind question after all00:33
xperia2twb: yes i want this for receiving mails on my server00:33
RoyKcreate one A and then a bunch of CNAMEs to that00:33
RoyKand create one A for the MX and  reference  to that from the other domains or subdomains00:34
xperia2okay give me a moment for doing that !00:34
twbThe point being that "example.net" isn't a host's name, it's a domain.  If you later introduce a second host "griffy", you don't want to have to piss about in zippy:/etc/hosts and such during the migration00:35
RoyKI didn't say he should define everything as the domain name00:35
RoyKthe mx points to the domain00:35
RoyKeverything else are hosts00:36
RoyKeven the domain name itself00:36
RoyKyou can even define the domain name as a cname to a host if   you want to00:36
RoyKas in00:37
RoyK@ cname somehost00:37
RoyKgiven $ORIGIN yourdom.com00:37
RoyKbut night00:38
Campulunghow i can install ubuntu server under windows?00:39
twbCampulung: badly00:39
twbCampulung: why do you want to do that?00:39
Campulungbecause i want to use windows too00:39
Campulungin same time00:39
twbCampulung: why?00:40
Campulungi have an office aplication who run only in windows00:40
ScottKOn a server?00:40
Campulungno00:40
twbA single host shouldn't be performing both server and workstation roles.00:40
Campulungi can run ubuntu server under windows?00:41
Campulungin same time?00:41
twbCampulung: that is technically possible, but it is stupid.00:42
xperia2RoyK: i have changed the file now. http://pastebin.com/d41283b30 however i am a litlle unsure about the mail entry for the subdomain gallery00:42
Campulungi need ubuntu server for ehcp00:42
CampulungWhat should I do?00:44
twbInherit a lot of money from a dead aunt, move to Jamaica and sit on the beach all day drinking00:44
xperia2twb: nice one but even this dont make happy the whole life :-)00:45
jetolehey guys, I am running ntpd on a server, 9.04 / Jaunty. time is becoming further and further out of sync with the NTP servers quite fast. It seems like about every 10 seconds it becomes 1 second out of date. Does anyone know what would cause this?00:47
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twbjetole: not running an ntp daemon00:49
twbjetole: oh, if it's losing one-tenth of a second to the second, that's different00:50
twbThat's "buy a new motherboard" kind of territory.00:50
jetoletwb, it is running and I am running the nagios check ntp check now but on the server in real time with the watch command and I am watching it00:50
twbIf you weren't running ntp, I would expect you to lose maybe a minute to the day.00:50
jetoletwb: it's a VM and it's the only vm out of 1/2 dozen that this is occuring to00:51
twbjetole: OK, VM's are a whole different ballpark00:51
jetolewhy?00:51
twbjetole: which virtualization technology?  VMware?00:51
jetolekvm00:51
twbI don't know the right fix for kvm.00:51
jetoleI don't think it is kvm00:51
twbFirst of all try booting with notsc.00:51
twb(Booting the VM, that is.)00:52
jetolewhy would this be the only vm running on this host00:52
jetolewhat is notsc?00:52
twbjetole: I don't know.00:52
twbnotsc means "don't trust the hardware clock"00:52
jetoleok, let me try, it's a mail server so I can reboot it and proper mail servers will send again00:52
twbI don't expect that to help much...00:53
xperia2twb: do you know if the last line in my bind9 config file is right for receiving mails to my subdomain "gallery.mydomain.ch" ? http://pastebin.com/d41283b3000:53
jetolehmm00:53
twbjetole: for other VM technologies, particularly VMware, I have seen that running ntp inside the VM is "wrong", and you are instead supposed to use a funky bridge that makes it sync via the virtualization layer00:55
twbWhich in vmware is done with the vmware-tools kernel blob crap00:55
jetoletwb, well perhaps but again, this is one among more then a half dozen running on the host server with this issue00:55
jetoletwb: actually I think it can be done trusting the hardware clock with ntp turned off00:56
twbShrug00:56
twbI would ask the KVM people if they know of this issue00:56
jetolewell the hardware clock for a vm is the software clock of the host00:56
jetoleyeah good idea00:56
twbSorry, that was what I was implying earlier, I should've said so outright00:57
mathiazstgraber: LXC support should be enabled in libvirt in karmic01:00
stgraberit's01:00
stgraberthough apparmor blocks it01:00
stgraberand the userland tools for LXC were outdated01:00
kirklandstgraber: oh?  poke jdstrand about that01:00
stgraberonce I updated LXC, then libvirt is outdated but work is going on upstream01:00
stgraberso for Lucid I have good hopes to have both the userland tools working correctly (already have that with a git snapshot in my PPA) and libvirt is being worked on to follow these lxc changes01:01
stgraberapparmor isn't a big deal to fix, it's just about allowing libvirt to call two additional binaries IIRC though there's not much point in fixing that in Karmic as userland LXC doesn't work correctly01:03
* stgraber currently has 3-4 users at the office running LXC on netbooks or atom-based thin clients with 10 contexts or so each ;)01:08
twbubottu: LXC01:08
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about LXC01:08
stgrabertwb: Linux containers. http://www.stgraber.org/2009/11/06/lxc-containers-or-extremely-fast-virtualization01:09
twbIs that a competitor for OpenVZ?01:10
stgraberit may very well be its replacement as it's entirely included in the upstream kernel01:11
twbBloody awesome01:11
stgraberyep01:11
twbI hate openvz01:11
stgraberI liked OpenVZ but not being able to run it on your laptop was kind of frustrating01:11
Campulung40where i can find unbuntu 32b ?01:11
stgraberLXC's tools aren't as good as OpenVZ's but with the libvirt module we shouldn't need them anyway ;)01:12
Campulung40from where download ubuntu 32-bit ?01:13
Campulung40*ubuntu server01:14
twbI don't like OpenVZ's tendency to hang the whole system when I mount -t aufs01:14
crohakonCampulung, www,ubuntu.com01:16
crohakonCampulung, www.ubuntu.com01:16
Campulung40here is only 64b version01:17
Campulung40i need 32-bit01:17
Campulung40look: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-server01:18
ajmitchCampulung40: there's an "alternative download options" link there which will show you the 32-bit version01:19
Campulung40tx ajmitch ...01:21
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kirklandmathiaz: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/45440501:48
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 454405 in eucalyptus "the CC is returning incorrect networkIndex values on describeInstances" [Critical,Fix committed]01:48
dragonhow do I configure what service runs at which runlevel?01:54
dragonI'm aware of the presence of /etc/rc.d script hooks, but I'm looking for a tool01:54
kirklandmathiaz: http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/20091110_free_airport_wifi_holiday.html01:55
kirklandmathiaz: since you use virsh a lot, feel free to add helpful hints to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Virsh01:58
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smackdhow do you refresh /etc/hosts in commandline03:07
jdstrandstgraber: please file bugs for LXC and libvirt. these have to be simple profiling bugs for libvirtd since only the qemu driver has guest protection03:09
jdstrandstgraber: I can then get lucid fixed at least, and get the changes pushed upstream03:10
jdstrandstgraber: though, if I have another libvirt SRU, I might just fix it in karmic too (the profiling bugs)03:11
stgraberbug 48047803:14
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 480478 in libvirt "libvirt's apparmor profile doesn't allow execution of /usr/lib/libvirt/libvirt_lxc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48047803:14
stgraberjdstrand: ^03:14
jdstrandstgraber: thanks!03:15
stgrabernp03:15
jdstrandI think there is another binary or too-- I'll fix them03:15
jdstrandtwo03:19
jdstrandstgraber: btw, would 0.7.2 be good? I figure I'll do the merge sometime soon03:20
uvirtbotNew bug: #480478 in libvirt (main) "libvirt's apparmor profile doesn't allow execution of /usr/lib/libvirt/libvirt_lxc" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48047803:21
stgraberjdstrand: I'm not sure, that will include a whole lot of upstream changes in the lxc driver for libvirt but they did a whole lot more afterwards and changelog isn't very clear on that.03:23
stgraberjdstrand: I see it's in unstable so I may just upload a backport to my PPA and do some tests with it tomorrow (if I find the time)03:24
* stgraber would love to have some working to show at UDS (including libvirt support)03:24
jdstrandstgraber: I'll try to get the merge before UDS03:25
jdstrandI'm going to upstream a couple of other things too, so maybe we'll have 0.7.3 soon in lucid (though not UDS soon)03:25
uvirtbotNew bug: #480479 in backuppc (main) "package backuppc 3.1.0-4ubuntu1.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48047903:26
smackdcan anyone point me to a good site or help me setup this.. i want to make it so that, say user  bob and user bill have different domains for the email address.. i have a few domains on this server... how can i do this.03:57
twbsmackd: tell postfix to accept email for both domains03:58
twbsmackd: then go to the pub and have a drink03:58
smackdlol04:02
smackdpub04:02
smackdtoo far04:02
smackdtwb, the accepting part is set-up.. its when an email is sent04:03
smackdit only shows the main domain04:03
twbOn the envelope From, or the message From?04:04
smackdok sorry.. forgot to say im using squirrelmail as the client for this04:05
smackdfigured it out04:09
* smackd kicks himself04:10
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Chris_Davisany one here know about secure file storage? I need to create a client portal solution for accountants to share sensitive data with their clients and visa versa. I would be willing to pay a reward for the right solution05:24
jmarsdenChris_Davis: That's a very broad question; does your specification have all the details about what "secure" means in this context, and whether you care about secure *transmission* as well as secure *storage* of the data?  What legal issues are there that have a bearing on this in your country/jurisdiction?  To get a useful answer you will probably need to point people at the detailed RFP...05:28
Chris_Davisit's for the USA and for both transfer and storage05:34
Chris_Davisthere are HIPPA guidelines that people often talk about05:34
jmarsdenChris_Davis: There are several open source "web file manager" apps that could work for you, appropriately secured over SSL/TLS.  Things like http://boxroom.rubyforge.org/05:52
Chris_Davissecure enough to store client SSN#s?05:52
ScottKChris_Davis: If you're seriously concerned about security, before you have stuff on the actual internet, you really, really need to have some serious design expertise and security review.  It's not a problem you'll solve with casual IRC chat.05:54
Chris_DavisScottK, true, but if it isn't worth it and will cost too much in legal fees, etc to do05:55
Chris_DavisI can save my time and money before going to a lawyer and paying them $200/hour too look up what a GB is05:55
jmarsdenChris_Davis: You are wasting other people's time if you ask questions like "secure enough to store client SSN#s?" before you define your requirements.  We're back to "what secure means in this context" ... you have not provided that definition... define "secure enough"... secure from what class of attackers with what resources for what time period, to start with... overall you need to define your project requirements05:59
jmarsden in more depth.  Write a clear RFP, or point us to the existing one.05:59
Chris_Davissecure period, can't access the data period06:00
Chris_DavisI need a way for cpas to share data with clients and only that client06:00
Chris_Daviswith audit trail06:00
jmarsdensecure period implies you cannot do it on the Internet period.06:00
jmarsdenHave them ship data by secure courier in briefcases chained to the bonded couriers wrist, etc.06:01
jmarsdenIf you know so little about security you think that "secure period" is feasible among networked computers, you are totally unqualified for this kind of work.06:02
Chris_Davisit isn't a line of work for me06:03
Chris_DavisI just do project management06:03
Chris_DavisI wanted to know what was possible06:03
Chris_Davisand get a trail to follow06:03
Chris_Davisluckily, another channel was kind enough to just mention PKI, and I've been happily reading ever since06:03
ScottKChris_Davis: Not "Secure.  Period.", BTW.  Anyone who is giving you security answers in absolultes is either leading you on or doesn't know what they're talking about.06:07
ScottKSeriously, you need to have someone figure this out who understands it.  If you're actually worried about security, do it yourself makes about as much sense as do it yourself brain surgery.06:08
Chris_DavisI'm not trying to do it myself, but others have had to work out similar problems06:08
Chris_Davisat the moment they are agreeing that PKI is the "best" way06:08
ScottKIn general, that's true.06:09
Chris_Davisright, I'm not expecting to get a fool-proof answer06:09
Chris_Davisbut this isn't my area at all06:09
Chris_Davisand before I post a job saying "something to do with file storage"06:10
Chris_DavisI'd prefer to narrow it down06:10
Chris_Davisin this case to PKI06:10
Chris_Davisthen I can learn advantages and disadvantages, etc06:10
uvirtbotNew bug: #478333 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "package mysql-server-5.0 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus nouveau script pre-installation a retourn? une erreur de sortie d'?tat 1" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47833306:20
maxagazCtrl+z pause & put in background a task, how to just put a task in background and get it back ?06:21
KurtKrautmaxagaz, I belive it is: fg NUMBER06:27
KurtKrautmaxagaz, the number was shown right after the CTRL+Z06:27
jmarsdenmaxagaz: ctrl-Z and then fg (to get it back in the foreground) or bg (to get it running in the background.  Default jobspec is the current job, which is the one you just created with ctrl-Z, so there should be no need to specify a number for this.  help fg06:28
roxy007 HI there, I have a question..i just install ldap in ubuntu server but i cant find the file sldap.conf, Is no was installed.Somebody know what i can resolve this problem?06:37
jmarsdenroxy007: WHat are you trying to do, and why do you think there *should* be a file called sldap.conf ??06:39
roxy007hi jmarsden, yes ...i install before in another servers and always was this file and i needed also to configurate this file06:50
roxy007i want install a ldap server06:51
jmarsdensldap.conf?  or slapd.conf?06:51
jmarsdenMaybe http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-and-configuring-openldap-on-ubuntu-intrepid-ibex  will give you some ideas?06:52
jmarsdenI think you are looking for slapd.conf, you asked for sldap.conf -- those are different things!06:53
roxy007yes ...06:57
roxy007thats rght06:57
roxy007do you know how i can resolve it?06:57
jmarsdenDid you read the HOWTO?  It includes a sample slapd.conf -- so that would be one way.06:58
jmarsdenAlso see https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html06:59
jmarsdenroxy007: Note that the slapd.conf approach is old and no longer considered a good way to configure slapd, as I understand it.  You can and should be using the cn=config stuff instead.  That is why there is no slapd.conf provided by default.07:03
roxy007ah..ok, i undestand now..thanks a lot07:05
jmarsdenNo problem.07:05
asentajacan CUPS be used without a GUI07:17
jmarsdenasentaja: Yes.07:19
kaushalhi08:26
kaushalany one used ntop ?08:26
crohakonI want to format and repartition my external hard drive. I do not want to use NTFS or FAT32 but I still want windows to be able to access files off of it. Is this possible? And if so, what file system do I use?09:13
atomic_1if you format it with ext3/4, you would have to get that utility for windows09:22
atomic_1which is slooow09:22
uvirtbotNew bug: #480332 in munin (universe) "package munin-node 1.2.6-13ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48033209:35
crohakonwhat command do I use to update my server via ssh terminal?09:46
smackdapt-get update09:47
smackdor sudo apt-get update09:47
smackdif not sudo su root09:47
crohakonand that will actually download and install any updates?09:47
smackdno09:47
smackdsudo apt-get upgrade09:47
smackdwill install em09:47
smackdupdate just gets the list of files09:48
crohakonperfect, thank you.09:48
smackdnp.09:49
_rubenupgrade wont install new packages though, which is the case with kernel upgrades for instance, use apt-get dist-upgrade instead to cover those as well09:54
crohakon_ruben, if I use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will that upgrade me to 9.10 from 9.04?09:58
crohakonwell, sleep time it is. Goodnight10:00
RoyKno10:06
RoyKdo-release-upgrade will10:06
_rubencrohakon: it would only do so if you'd had altered you sources.list as well10:14
\shmoins10:19
chimp_I have an obscure error when trying to install dhcp3-server on an arm board10:20
chimp_Can't exec "/tmp/dhcp3-server.config.23361": Permission denied at /usr/share/perl/5.10/IPC/Open3.pm line 168.10:20
chimp_open2: exec of /tmp/dhcp3-server.config.23361 configure  failed at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/ConfModule.pm line 5910:20
chimp_It then fails to preconfigure, and doesnt start, any ideas?10:20
chimp_Ahh i think I worked out the problem, fstab had /tmp mounted no exec10:27
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* soren goes to lunch10:52
VEBhow to uninstal ubuntu desktop from server?10:56
Jeeves_apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop10:57
Jeeves_And than tons of packages that can be removed too10:57
Jeeves_probably with 'apt-get autoremove'10:57
VEBReading package lists... Done10:58
VEBPackage ubuntu-desktop is not installed, so not removed10:59
VEBbut is instaled10:59
Jeeves_Well, no. It isn't :)11:00
VEBbut i have the grafic interface11:01
VEBand all the options from desktop11:01
Jeeves_How did you install that than?11:03
VEBapt-get install ubuntu-desktop11:05
Jeeves_ok11:13
Jeeves_So you probably de-installed that allready11:13
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ESEDUis my printer device URI that specified in lpinfo -v11:28
ESEDU?11:29
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ESEDUhow can i find out my printer URI12:04
acalvoto anyone who uses LDAP: how can I change the cn=admin,dc=domain,dc=com password in a RTC system?12:04
acalvois there any attribute (like the olcRootDN) that I can use to specify a password12:04
acalvo?12:04
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nyk2005My mysql server fails to start. I somehow messed up the database of the first install, purged it and cleaned all traces of it by hand. But now it still fails to start and even to install the package using aptitude. What can it be?12:15
sorennyk2005: What kind of errors are you getting?12:17
nyk2005soren: just [fail]12:17
nyk2005soren: nothing in the logs12:18
sorenYou said you can't even install it using aptitude.12:18
sorenHow does that fail?12:18
nyk2005and during package install: "invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed"12:20
sorenOk, so the package install, but fails to run.. Hm. When you say you cleaned all traces of it... What exactly did you do?12:23
nyk2005find / | grep mysql12:24
nyk2005and remove all that12:24
nyk2005when I just run /usr/bin/mysqld_safe, it starts then says "mysqld_safe mysqld from pid file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid ended"12:25
nyk2005and in /var/log/messages "Nov 11 13:23:18 biodata2 kernel: [46908.006040] type=1503 audit(1257942198.520:839): operation="open" pid=22153 parent=22046 profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" requested_mask="r::" denied_mask="r::" fsuid=0 ouid=0 name="/sys/devices/system/cpu/""12:25
nyk2005what kind of message is this?12:26
sorenErk..12:26
sorenDid "find / | grep mysql" show anything in /var/lib/dpkg/info ?12:26
sorenWhat version of Ubuntu is this?12:26
atomic_1nyk2005: that's probably apparmor12:26
atomic_1i had the same messages with bind12:27
sorenIt is apparmour, yes.12:27
nyk2005ah because I also deleted the profile12:27
sorenYeah. Now nothing will work.12:27
nyk2005shit... so just aptitude remove/install to get it...12:28
sorenpurge.12:28
sorenNot just remove.12:28
nyk2005but I can't because it then tries to start mysql.. :)12:28
sorenAnd you still haven't answered my question.12:28
soren13:26:27 < soren> Did "find / | grep mysql" show anything in /var/lib/dpkg/info ?12:28
soren...and did you delete any of that?12:28
soren..although it trying to start mysql when you remove it suggests that at least some of that stuff is still around.12:29
Jeeves_soren: Isn't "find /var/lib/dpkg/info | grep mysql" more efficient? :)12:29
sorenJeeves_: Depends on what you're trying to do.12:29
nyk2005soren: no I didn't touch any of the OS stuff12:29
sorennyk2005: Except apparmour.12:29
asentajahow do i find out my device URI12:29
nyk2005soren: ah yes..12:30
nyk2005soren: because it has "mysql" in it and resides in /etc... which made it susceptible..12:30
nyk2005soren: so i just replace the file from here:soren12:30
nyk2005soren: I mean http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84927412:30
asentajanyk2005: how do i find out my device URI12:31
nyk2005nyk2005: what device?12:31
asentajaprinter12:31
nyk2005printer has an uri? why not use cups?12:32
sorenasentaja: Why do you need it?12:32
asentajaadding printer with lpadmin12:32
sorennyk2005: I don't know.12:32
sorennyk2005: 13:26:50 < soren> What version of Ubuntu is this?12:32
asentajalpadmin printer1 -v device URI12:33
asentajaserver 9.0412:33
asentajaor 9.1012:33
asentajaI am using cups12:34
nyk2005soren: actually /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld exists, it just has a parsing error: "AppArmor parser error in /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld at line 352: Could not open '(null)"12:34
mok0I have a question about sieve scripts: Is there an "#include xxxx" so I can organize the code in several files?12:35
nyk2005but that file never has that many lines..12:35
sorenmok0: Which sieve implementation are we talking about?12:35
sorennyk2005: I can't help you when you don't answer my questions.12:36
mok0soren: the one in Ubuntu's mail stack, I believe it's CMU's12:36
sorenmok0: Err..12:36
sorenmok0: Dovecot, you mean?12:36
nyk2005asentaja: if your cups is configured from the webinterface it's enough (at least for me) to access it by name.12:36
mok0soren: yes12:36
sorenmok0: Which version?12:36
mok0soren: karmic :-)12:37
asentajait dosent have a web interface12:37
asentajaim using command line12:37
asentaja"lpadmin" command12:37
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mok0soren: I've been looking for a while, and I'm afraid everything goes into one huge file, which sux IMO12:37
sorenmok0: http://wiki.dovecot.org/LDA/Sieve#Include_scripts12:38
mok0soren: my hero! :-)12:38
soren:)12:39
sorendovecot in Karmic is 1.1.11. Bear that in mind when reading that page.12:39
mok0soren: you mean, it's the newest version I guess12:39
zulmorning12:40
sorenmok0: Well, there's a 1.2 dev version.12:40
mok0soren: ah I see12:40
sorenmok0: If that page talks about "CMU sieve" vs. "Dovecot Sieve", "CMU sieve" is the one you should pay attention to.12:40
mok0soren: ok, thanks12:40
sorenDovecot uses CMU Sieve in 1.0 and 1.1.12:41
soren1.2 can use either.12:41
asentajaI dont know how it works adding a printer threw web interface, but i need to use the command line tool lpadmin for that, and it needs the URI for it12:41
* mok0 hurries off to translate old procmail recipes to sieve-format :-)12:42
* soren makes a coffee run12:43
ESEDUasentaja goes fuc***g mad12:43
nyk2005asentaja: it's very comforable in the webinterface, all done by wizards.. :)12:46
nyk2005just cupsserver:63112:46
ESEDUdo you need GUI for the web interface i think yes?12:51
ESEDUsee ubuntu server is only command line12:51
ESEDUI think the URI is something like /dev/usb*12:52
ESEDUbut not really sure12:52
mok0soren, can you use variables inside a sieve script?12:53
mok0soren: n/m12:53
* MenZa slides soren a steaming hot mug of coffee.12:55
* atomic_1 intercepts it12:55
MenZa:O12:55
soren:(13:02
ESEDUplease why wont anyone help me13:04
sorenBecause we have no clue about printing, I suppose.13:06
uvirtbotNew bug: #479900 in nut (universe) "Nut upgrade overwrites /etc/nut/nut.conf" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47990013:11
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* MenZa virtualises soren 13:15
\shsoren, just a reminder, all ideas of keybuk weren't successful13:24
sorenHow about mine?13:26
\shI'll test it just now...13:28
\shsoren, you meant just exec ifup -a in /etc/init/network-interface.conf13:30
sorenYes.13:30
sorenIt will have a side effect, though.13:30
\shI think this is also too early for that...13:30
mok0How do I incorporate spam filtering in Ubuntu's mail stack?13:31
soren\sh: What do you mean?13:31
\shsoren, when I read the file correctly, it will be always triggered when udev adds an interface...13:31
sorenExactly.13:32
\shsoren, which means, an ifup -a will fail the same way, because not all interfaces are added at some time...13:32
sorenRight..13:32
sorenSo?13:32
sorenIt will also be called when all the necessary interfaces are called, at which point it will succeed.13:32
\shthe bonding e.g.  will be available, but without any interfaces added to the bond...(this happens as well with keybuk ideas)13:32
sorenErr... when all the necessary interfaces have been added, I mean.13:32
sorenThe bond interface doesn't fail to be configured if the nic's are not available?13:33
sorenOh, ffs..13:33
\shnope...the bond0 interface is there...13:33
\shbut without the needed NICs it's useless, and e.g. an vlan interface which is using the vlan_raw_device bond0 doesn't work13:33
sorenI understand.13:34
sorenI just expected ifenslave's ifup script to bail out if the listed interfaces were unavailable..13:34
sorenbut it doesn't. How "clever".13:34
\shwell, tbh, bonding interfaces are somewhat sick...it needs to be auto bond0 and you need to set something like 0.0.0.1 as address to be used as e.g. vlan_raw_device13:35
sorenOh!13:36
sorenI think I may have the solution.13:36
soren\sh: Try this: /usr/share/doc/ifenslave-2.6/examples/two_hotplug_ethernet13:38
\shoh13:39
\shthere is a bug in this example ;)13:39
sorenWhat?13:39
sorenah, i see.13:39
\sh;)13:39
sorenThere may actually be two..13:40
sorenLet me check.13:40
sorenAh, no, it's probably only the one.13:40
\shsoren: this will be fun with a setup like this: http://www.sourcecode.de/content/network-setup-freaks-me-out13:43
garymcOk anyone help me out? I need to View and Edit PDF files in my GUI. I can view new files fine. As soon as I save them they become unviewable? What is my solution?13:46
soren\sh: What does eth0 and eth1 do all by themselves?13:47
\shsoren, nothing :)13:47
sorengarymc: Wrong channel.13:48
\shsoren, they are just the way out of the server ...13:48
garymcyeah there is no right channel13:48
\shgarymc, #ubuntu is the right one13:48
sorengarymc: #ubuntu13:48
sorenNo right channel does not mean that any channel is the right channel.13:48
garymcno help there13:48
\shsoren, the hotplug didn't work13:48
sorengarymc: That does not mean that this magically becomes the right channel.13:49
soren\sh: You changed /etc/init/network-interface.conf back to the way it was to begin with, right?13:49
\shsoren, yepp13:49
\shsoren, /etc/init.d/networking restart after login works as expected...13:50
\shjust not during boot up time13:50
sorenCan you work out why it fails?13:50
\shsoren, can I somehow pass --debug to upstart and tell upstart to log into a file? just working from an ILO so I need some logfile13:51
\shsoren, (--debug via kernel-commandline is known)13:51
DavieyHey, i don't think i can make today's meeting.  However, i've posted some comments regarding spamassassin which was ne of my action'sfrom last week.13:52
Daviey(to ubuntu-server ml)13:53
soren\sh: Don't know.13:53
ttxsmoser: ping13:54
\shlet's see if someone from #u-d  has a clue13:54
Daviey\sh: surely you can direct the verbosity to the ttyS of iLo?13:55
\shDaviey, you mean direct the output of kernel + upstart through ttyS ilo port 3002? ;-)13:57
Daviey\sh: i mean, the fact it's iLo makes no differnet, surely.  It's just a (serial) console.13:58
Davieydifference*13:58
DavieyI assume you have ipmi aswell?13:59
\shoh well...playing with our firewall....13:59
Davieywell if you cna get shell into the network, just run the ipmitools on a box within the network- and ssh to that :)14:00
* Daviey has to run, ttfn14:00
ttxmeeting -> #ubuntu-meeting14:00
\shDaviey, this is hard...:) because our ilo network is not reachable from within the production network...14:01
smoserttx, here14:03
ttxsmoser: after the meeting14:04
\shgrmpf14:16
Fenix|workGreetings and salutations!14:22
JoelioHi all, is it possible to run a cluster head as a node too? I.e. is it possible to run a cloud on one machine (I'm testing)14:57
mok0Jeez these sieve scripts ignore everything I try to do... :-(14:58
zulttx: so the samba sru15:01
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zulttx: i was going to do an samba karmic SRU tomorrow but I was going to add that libsmbclient nautilus bug as well and go through the changelog and see if we can cherrypick any others15:02
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ttxzul: ok15:11
ttxmathiaz, kirkland: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/458904/comments/3215:35
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 458904 in eucalyptus "When installing a node, euca_find_cluster fails to locate the cluster controller if instances are running" [High,Fix committed]15:35
mathiazttx: hm - right15:37
mathiazttx: has the avahi-daemon update been already published?15:37
ttxmathiaz: yes15:37
mathiazttx: :(15:37
ttx(in -proposed)15:38
ttxmathiaz: though it should be fixed in eucalyptus, no ?15:38
mathiazttx: ha - in -proposed that's good then15:39
mathiazttx: well - technically yes15:39
mathiazttx: however if the avahi update is pushed at the same time as eucalyptus to -updates15:39
mathiazttx: it will be restarted15:39
ttxhmmm15:40
ttxmathiaz: I don't know how acceptable that would be :)15:40
ttxmathiaz: could you comment on the bug ?15:40
mathiazttx: right - I agree that's is a bit stretched15:40
ttxmathiaz: but it's true I tested a 7.1 -> 7.2 eucalyptus update alone15:42
ttxsince avahi update was picked up already15:42
mathiazttx: right - I've added a comment15:43
mathiazttx: and I'll do the test15:43
mathiazttx: with both avahi and eucalyptus published at the same time15:44
ttxmathiaz: maybe that's what kirkland tested.15:44
mathiazttx: may be.15:45
ttxmathiaz: not sure how we can validate the fix for bug 45440515:49
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 454405 in eucalyptus "the CC is returning incorrect networkIndex values on describeInstances" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45440515:49
mathiazttx: yeah - me neither15:59
mathiazttx: upstream said so?15:59
ttxmathiaz: well, they could help in validating the fix16:00
ttxsince we lack a clear testcase.16:01
googaanyone there?16:22
googacan I ask a question16:22
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mathiaz!ask | googa16:22
ubottugooga: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)16:22
googaHow do clients use printers on a print server lets say working CUPS?16:23
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* soren goes to dinner16:48
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cemchow can I select a specific mirror at install time?17:28
cemcor specify one local (apt-proxy) mirror17:28
\shanyone online with similar problems as described in #446031 ?17:29
cemc\sh: I have almost the same setup, only with dhcp, and I have no problems17:31
\shcemc, running karmic?17:32
cemc\sh: yes17:32
\shcemc, can you paste your /e/n/i ?17:33
cemchttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/316127/17:33
cemclooks similar, only with dhcp17:34
\shcemc, can you try with a static ip ?17:35
cemc\sh: not right now, gf is working on the comp. but I have a laptop, also with Karmic, and I can try there. I don't have bridge there right now, but I had a couple of days ago, and it also worked fine, just gimme a sec17:37
\shcemc, no NM on it?17:38
cemc\sh: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/316135/ - this is the config right now, just copy-pasted from the bug and changed the IPs17:42
\shand it works?17:42
cemc\sh: I have NM on it, but it doesn't manage anything because of the auto stuff in /e/n/i17:42
cemcyes, it works, I'm writing from it right now17:42
cemcit's a Karmic upgraded from Jaunty. but the other one is a clean Karmic install17:43
cemcboth 64bit17:43
\shcemc, I don't use bridging but bonding I had the very same problem as lars, does bridging needs a manual eth0 device ?17:43
cemc\sh: that's what I have in /e/n/i, it says manual for eth0. and if I do ifconfig, I can see eth0, it's up, with no IP address17:44
cemcI guess it needs to be up for the network to work, even if through bridge17:45
\shcemc, hmm..strange...17:47
cemc\sh: did you see the fix in the bug ?17:49
\shcemc, it was me with the fix ;)17:50
cemcah, ok17:50
\shI debugged now for 2 days with soren because of this...and this works as expected.17:50
cemcwhat created /var/run/network anyway?17:51
cemcI have that on both my machines17:51
\shI'm just trying to test this out, or if something else might be  happening17:51
\sh /var/run is a tmpfs...and ifup checks in /var/run/network/ the interface states17:51
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cemcI see, but what created /var/run/network ?17:52
\sh /etc/init/network-interface.conf creates this directory inside the pre-start script, but somehow when /etc/init/networking.conf is processed, this directory is not there and the call to ifup -a failes17:52
\shcemc: in your case, eventually /etc/init/network-interface.conf or some magic network-manager script17:52
cemc\sh: I see... anything else I can do?17:55
\shcemc, nope...thx for your help :) I'm doing some more testing tomorrow, when I inject the new ifupdown package into my auto-dist-upgrading puppet recipe17:56
cemc\sh: sure, np17:58
uvirtbotNew bug: #480820 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "mysql-server-5.0 package upgrade problem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48082018:12
\shhmm...puppetd is still not started correctly, doesn't write the pid file, so stopping won't work either18:19
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cemci18:54
cemcif I want alias rm='rm -i' system-wide, where do I put it? I want it to be set for everbody, local user, login through ssh, etc18:58
generaldisarrayyo yo, i'm running libvirt-qemu and I'm trying to get usb passthru working, I've edited my apparmor to enable it and tried everything else i can find on google but it's still not working, after enable with apparmor and adding a USB physical device with virt-manager, I get the error "Error starting domain: internal error Timed out while reading monitor startup output".... anyone have any ideas how to get this to work?18:59
cemcgeneraldisarray: you might want to try in #ubuntu-virt19:00
generaldisarraydoh thanks cemc i didnt realize there was a diff. group will do19:01
cemcnp19:01
zulcemc: /etc/bashrc19:03
Hypnoz/etc/.bashrc19:03
cemcthx19:04
Hypnozerr I thought /home/<user>/.bashrc19:06
Hypnozdidn't realize you could put on in /etc/19:06
Hypnozso /etc/bashrc is called each time someone logs in?19:06
RayMcCoyI have good download but terrible (less than 3kb/s) upload speed from my server in my local network, any tips? For more enfo please check this thread in the Ubuntu Forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1320471 thanks!19:32
Hypnozwhat app are you uploading with19:41
Hypnozand have you tried uploading with another computer on your network?19:41
Hypnozcemc: if you're still there the file you want is /etc/profile19:52
Hypnozcemc: /etc/bashrc doesn't affect login shells19:53
Hypnozcemc: unless its referenced by each users ~/.bashrc19:53
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uvirtbotNew bug: #480885 in eucalyptus (main) "Eucalyptus avahi publication jobs failed to restart if avahi-daemon is restarted" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48088519:56
cemcHypnoz: I see20:00
cemc(was a netsplit)20:00
smackdhi.. im trying to setup a mailserver and need to know how to let users add email accounts without having shell access20:03
cemcsmackd: you could try installing postfix with virtual users and postfixadmin (web interface).20:05
smackdcool. i have postfix installed. is virtual users a config option or another package?20:05
alex88config option..to provide mail to non-system's user account20:06
cemcsmackd: well, that's a little bit more complicated, you may need to read up on some stuff. try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixCompleteVirtualMailSystemHowto20:08
cemcbut this is not a quick "i need it now" thing :)20:09
marks256how would i ssh into a remote server, and run a command and be able to close the tunnel? is this what a job is?20:19
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\shmarks256, ssh user@server "/bin/ls" ?20:28
marks256\sh, what does the material in quotes do?20:28
\shmarks256, it's example to remotely get a directory listing (ls) actually you don't need the quotes20:29
marks256what i want to do is to ssh into a remote server to do some video rendering, but it's going to take about 16 hours, so i'd like to be able to turn my computer off, and not have to leave the ssh tunnel open on my computer20:30
\shmarks256, oh...for that "screen" is the right tool for you20:30
Pici!screen20:30
ubottuScreen is a window manager for terminal sessions, also useful over SSH. The 'screen-profiles' package provides very useful additional utilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen20:30
PiciHm, /me wonders if we should update that for byobu20:31
\shmarks256, ssh to the server, start screen , start your job , do ctrl-A D for detaching screen, logout and come back after 16 hours, ssh to the server, start "screen -r" et voila20:31
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\shok.../me is gone for today...cu tomorrow20:31
marks256oh20:32
marks256ok thanks!20:32
marks256i'll give that a shot20:32
* JanC <3 screen & byobu ☺20:37
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Mack_hi20:56
Patroxhi20:56
Mack_Which sendmail is faster in ubuntu server?20:58
Mack_in desktop I used exim, but idk if sendmail is faster in server20:59
xperia2hello to all. i have a strange problem with apache vhosting. this here is my default file in the folder sites-availble http://pastebin.com/d1d584f021:03
Mack_xperia2:  ill look at mine now21:04
xperia2from all vhosts only the last one "gallery" works ! all other give me 403 Forbidden21:04
xperia2You don't have permission to access / on this server.21:04
xperia2Mack_: thanks !21:05
Mack_xperia2: do you have index.html in them all?21:05
xperia2yes !21:05
Mack_cuz thats the error my server gets w/o one21:06
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Mack_because the directory listings are off21:06
ScottKMack_: We tend to prefer Postfix.21:06
xperia2hmmm21:06
Mack_ScottK: hmm, hows the speed on that? Because using desktop, the built in sendmail took about 10 minutes to send an email21:06
Mack_but wouldnt let the page load until it was sent21:07
xperia2normally it works if i have only one vhost !21:07
ScottKMack_: If it's that slow that's a sign of some other problem.21:07
ScottKMack_: It looks like Postfix on my laptop usually takes between half a second and a second to send a mail.21:08
xperia2i will backup now the default file and leave only one vhost for prooving that it works !21:09
Mack_ScottK: well this was on my serverusing ubuntu desktop, and I'm switching that soon21:09
JanCeh, postfix should be able to send mails in a fraction of a second  ☺21:09
ScottKJanC: Yes, usually DNS lookups are the major bottleneck21:10
JanCI was just going to say: "maybe a second if you do all sort of DNS lookups "21:10
JanC;)21:10
JanCcertainly not a minute21:10
JanCwould be bad for a real ISP if they get 100 mails / second  ;)21:11
Mack_xperia2: have u tried all the vhosts independently?21:12
Mack_JanC: yeah, thats why I had a problem with it :P21:12
Mack_whats the argument for password in mysql?21:23
Mack_-u is user21:23
Mack_but whats for password?21:23
kane_-p21:23
kane_see mysql --help ;)21:23
xperia2Mack_: just wanted to say you that my vhosting works now for at least three websites. you was right about the empty folders.21:30
Mack_the only thing I need to figure out is why directory indexing doesnt always enable like it should21:30
xperia2what me makes scary a litlle is that my selfwritten php scripts in this folders have disapeared !21:31
xperia2the websites in this folder worked great. i am asking me if the wordpress blog software coudl be responisble for this erase ?21:32
rickspencer3kirkland may I ask who is doing UDS session scheduling for you guys? I see that some of the sessions are not on the server track.21:35
rickspencer3I could fix that for you if you want21:35
mathiazrickspencer3: mdz is doing it21:36
rickspencer3mathiaz shall I track them for you guys?21:42
* rickspencer3 does21:43
rickspencer3mdz ^21:43
mathiazrickspencer3: sure - if mdz is fine with that21:43
mathiazrickspencer3: neither ttx nor kirkland nor me can schedule anything21:43
jmdzhello all21:48
jmdzcan someone tell me is there a wiki or a guide to install dtc on ubuntu server21:48
druhi guys...im looking for some help with file premissions21:49
druIm setting up a secure samba share, im using a 700 file permission, however on login i dont have the correct permissions21:50
druany one know what i may be doing wrong ?21:50
drudoes samba need to have a certain file permission set to be able to log in ?21:55
druthat would seem rather illogical21:55
orudie_porn http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/Body_painting.JPG21:58
druhey thats suse21:58
drunot ubuntu21:58
orudie_:)21:58
* dru shakes his fits like a mad man 21:58
Mack_kane_: hmm, I tried -p and it didn't work :/21:59
kane_mack: 'mysql -u username -p database' and then you'll be prompted for the db password21:59
Mack_OH its -p=21:59
kane_i promise that works :)21:59
Mack_yeah21:59
Mack_I did -p pass21:59
Mack_well I'm using mysqldump21:59
Mack_but its the same syntax for password22:00
mathiazrickspencer3: if you're looking into scheduling session for the server track, there a couple of them related to puppet22:02
mathiazrickspencer3: they have puppet in their name22:02
mathiazrickspencer3: upstream will only be at UDS on Monday and Tuesday22:02
mathiazrickspencer3: so if the schedule could take this into account that would be very helpful22:03
mathiazrickspencer3: upstream has been subscribed and marked as essential22:03
mathiazrickspencer3_: I'm not sure that he has entered his attendance dates yet22:03
rickspencer3_mathiaz, I'm not scheduling22:09
rickspencer3_(for server)22:10
rickspencer3_but if you need some help adjusting a session at any time, please feel free to ask me22:10
mathiazrickspencer3_: ok22:10
rickspencer3_mathiaz, is there one I can help with now?22:11
mathiazrickspencer3_: not really - AFAICT no sessions have been scheduled up to now22:12
mathiazrickspencer3_: hm22:12
mathiazrickspencer3_: actually no22:12
Mackusing a real client now22:13
marks256can anyone recommend a good (affordable) model server? i've been looking at HP Proliant DL585's lately. They look pretty good. When i say affordable i mean less than $400. I need to do some pretty CPU/Memory intensive rendering22:19
Macki would recommend building one from scratch with that budget22:19
marks256that's what i was thinking. I figured i could build a quad dual core system with 16gb of ram for less than a grand22:20
ninnypantsI'm trying to run postfix with virtual users using mysql but I keep getting this error22:29
ninnypantsNov 10 21:43:08 Directories postfix/trivial-rewrite[12406]: warning: connect to  mysql server localhost: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)22:29
ninnypantsI can get results when I use postmap to run the config file but when postfix is actually handling email it can't connect22:30
kane_ninnypants: is your mysql running, and is it configured to listen on a local socket?22:30
ninnypantsit's running but I'm not sure about listening to a local socket how do I check that?22:31
kane_let me check the precise config directive. in the meantime, check if the file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock even exists22:32
ScottKAlso postfix is, by default, in a chroot.  The socket needs to exist inside the chroot22:32
kane_ah, very good point22:33
ninnypantsthe sock exists I've already checked that22:33
kane_then what ScottK said ^22:33
kane_ninnypants: this may be topical for you as well: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25111922:35
ninnypantsI'll check that thanks. also how do I know if something exists inside chroot?22:36
kane_chroot to that dir, or cd to the dir and prefix it to the path. ie if your chroot is in /my/chroot, then it's /my/chroot/var/run/mysql/mysqld.sock22:38
kane_ninnypants: however, looking at the forum post, it looks like the easy solution is to switch postifx to connect to mysql over tcp rather than unix socket22:38
kane_and then all this headache goes away22:38
ScottKThat's generally the solution.22:39
ninnypantsok thanks22:41
PaliPalsAnyone know NFS permissions well>23:30
PaliPals?23:30
verbalhas anyone installed 9.10 server on a dell poweredge R805? it has a dell sas 6 controller in raid1. i can install onto the disk but cant boot off it (grub it says no device found).23:33
PaliPalsI am having difficulty in understanding how to share a folder with two clients23:33
verbalmaybe i need to install a kernel mod in grub?23:34
verbalcant seem to find anything online about it, only that REL5 and suse are supported23:34
PaliPalsHow do I make a server update packages that were held back after I do a sudo apt-get upgrade?23:35
ScottKPaliPals: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade usually does it23:36
PaliPalsI am on LTS and don't want to distro upgrade?23:36
ScottKThat doesn't change the release you are running.  It just allows new packages to be pulled in if needed23:37
PaliPalsAh ok. That makes sense. Thanks23:37
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PaliPalsSo if I use sudo apt-get dist-update and apt-get dist-upgrade I shouldn't get held back packages anymore?23:38
PaliPalsAlso, with NFS I have the server working and it mounts the shares fine. The issue is that when one client puts files on the server, the other client does not have perms to them.23:40
PaliPalsAnd vice versa.23:40
PaliPalsSo, how do I get the perms right so they both can access?23:40
nnn0anyone have had problems with apache after upgrade ? mine just don't respond anymore, it seems to be running, but it don't do jack no more except using alot of cycles. apache2ctl fullstatus etc just hangs. it's just wierd.23:43
ScottKPaliPals: No such thing as dist-update.  Just update.23:44
PaliPalsK23:44
PaliPalsThanks ScottK23:44
PaliPalsAny advice on my NFS post at all. I know it has something to do with groups but I am just missing the idea or something.23:45
Lownini can't find a newer version of rtorrent for 8.04 in backports, but this is my first time trying to use backports. am I missing something? I don't see it in there at all.23:46
verbalok, new development.23:48
verbalwhen i boot the OS, it says it cant find the root device and there's no /dev/mapper/mybox etc.. and kicks me to busybox, but if exit busybox, then everything works. i've had some .. timing issues before. this seems like one of those23:49
ScottKverbal: Add rootdelay=90 to the boot parameters and see if that works.23:50
ScottKIf it does, then you can try smaller values.23:50
verbalScottK: thanks i'll try that23:51
Lownini can't find a newer version of rtorrent for 8.04 in backports, but this is my first time trying to use backports. am I missing something? I don't see it in there at all.23:53
ScottKLownin: Looks like it was never backported, but there is very little different in newer releases anyway23:55
LowninI'm having some trouble with watch directories. I don't know if it's a bug so I was trying to rule that out.23:55
LowninThanks for the info, ScottK23:58
ScottKmathiaz: Do you know if we have a spec for server based calendaring solution?23:59
mathiazScottK: hi! I think zul registered one23:59
ScottKOK.  Thanks.23:59
ScottKzul: ^^ what's it called?23:59

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