[00:04] <tormod> bryce, I updated the pastebin report: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2e3f7b0a
[03:08] <corp186> I debugged an X crash, patched it up, and got the fix pushed upstream into the xserver git repo
[03:08] <corp186> It fixes bug 361489
[03:09] <corp186> I left a comment about this in the bug
[03:09] <corp186> is there anything else I can do to help get this fix released for ubuntu?
[03:37] <hyperair> corp186: create a debdiff?
[04:00] <corp186> hyperair: done
[04:00] <corp186> anything else I can do?
[04:23] <Sarvatt> hey guys, is there any plan regarding xorg 7.5 component syncs from debian for lucid? I noticed a few protos like render and xf86dri were synced, just curious if more will automatically or if it'll be done manually later because of all the breakage that will come and I'm not sure if I should start throwing things on edgers
[04:39] <hyperair> corp186: well you can subscribe the relevant parties i suppose
[04:40] <hyperair> Sarvatt: lp #361489
[04:40] <hyperair> corp186 was working on that
[08:42] <Sarvatt> phew 2 libs left then i can work on xserver master, think i'll leave that and all the video and input drivers until tomorrow unless anyone wants to help out in lucid on edgers
[09:04] <Sarvatt> i'm just guessing we're going to have xorg 7.5/xserver 1.8 in lucid, figure i'd follow xserver master then switch to 1.8 branch later. anyone know if thats about right? i've been out of the loop for a few months and havent seen any schedules, dunno if it'd be better to do 1.7 for now
[10:44] <mvo> bryce: thanks for your update on the nvidia issues - when I tested without nvidia.ko the system would come up normally, just without glx and with a big warning in the log. is this different for some nvidia driver versions/models? i.e. does it sometimes fails complettely?
[11:41] <Duke`> latest xserver-xorg-video-intel is broken for me (x86_64): pix and fonts are defect. Is is already known?
[19:33] <Sarvatt> woohoo, xorg 7.5 and xserver master are up and running on edgers now, intel ddx has a nasty bug where alpha channels arent rendering right now though
[19:40] <Sarvatt> no need to add the replaces tormod i dont think, it was just a bad partial upgrade on my end cus i still had libxxf86vm1 1.0.2
[19:41] <Sarvatt> just finishedcompiling an older intel snapshot, lets see how this works
[19:42] <Sarvatt> that header isnt in the version it depends on i mean
[19:45] <Sarvatt> yep works great, i just reverted to 2.9.1 because i dont have the battery power to revert a bunch of commits and recompile a few times
[19:45] <bryce> heya Sarvatt
[19:45] <Sarvatt> heyo!
[19:45] <bryce> Sarvatt, you coming to UDS?
[19:45] <Sarvatt> congrats on the baby man! I saw your halloween pictures while I was trying to find your x package status page :)
[19:45] <Sarvatt> i wish :(
[19:46] <bryce> ahh thanks :-)
[19:46] <Sarvatt> cant afford the $600 for rooms right now
[19:46] <bryce> yeah we're taking veterans day and thurs/fri to head to the beach for a little vacation
[19:46] <bryce> well, maybe we can work out sponsorship for you next time
[19:47] <bryce> actually for X this UDS may be rather dull... we've got few X people coming
[19:47] <Sarvatt> life forced me out of the loop for a few months there, just getting back into the swing of things now that lucid is all set up and I got excited again :D
[19:47] <Sarvatt> yeah i saw that there wasnt much in the way of X stuff on the blueprints
[19:48] <bryce> yeah we missed you.  Baby took me out of the loop as well
[19:49] <bryce> I feel bad, there's a couple severe bugs due to the new gdm and upstart that I could have caught sooner if I'd not been on leave
[19:50] <Sarvatt> i still have to wrap my head around all this new upstart stuff, imagine it is throwing dkms for a loop?
[19:50] <JanC> bryce: sometimes there are more important things in life  ;)
[19:51] <bryce> Sarvatt, pretty much
[19:51] <bryce> JanC, yeah tell that to all the users sending in bug reports ;-)
[19:53] <Sarvatt> karmic was an amazing release, i gave 6 people who dont know much about computers install cds and they have no problems with it unlike jaunty :D the only friend that had problems with it was from doing an upgrade when he had some PPA nvidia blob drivers (like most people do..)
[19:53] <bryce> yeah
[19:54] <bryce> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Nvidia
[19:54] <Sarvatt> i had alot of problems with karmic during the dev cycle though that werent really that big a deal but all of them are gone in the release, first time i actually left things alone and used stock stuff there :D
[19:55] <bryce> the whole nvidia thing has been really irritating me.  It seems rather than focus on the huge improvements that have been made on the open source side, esp. intel, it seems everyone is fixated on -nvidia problems, which hardly has ever been without upgrade hassles
[19:56] <bryce> anyway, my guess is just that there have been the usual assortment of -nvidia problems, just that the experience has been poor due to the new gdm lacking failsafe x
[19:57] <Sarvatt> would it be possible to ship precompiled nvidia.ko's with the package? im guessing dkms is gonna need to be running via upstart and putting things on hold instead of building the updates in parallel to booting somehow?
[20:01] <bryce> precompiled only works if we know absolutely what kernel will be running (which we won't)
[20:01] <bryce> we used to do things that way with lrm, and it was quite a hassle
[20:01] <bryce> yeah the real solution is to not do stuff quite so parallel
[20:02] <bryce> also, it may be possible to make it build multiple kernels during install time rather than post-boot time
[20:03] <Sarvatt> yeah i know it can do that from using the drivers straight from nvidia
[20:13] <Sarvatt> kernel packages dont run a postinst trigger to build any dkms modules for the new kernel in it? dunno why i thought they did
[20:14] <Sarvatt> guess that would make dkms a mandatory install though
[20:15] <Sarvatt> since its optional is it a big deal if it delays booting a few seconds always if its installed?
[20:17] <Sarvatt> oh yeah the ko is huge, precompiled for the release kernels would suck :D
[20:33] <Sarvatt> anyone know what arguments this i915 module powersave parameter takes in 2.6.32? is it just 1 for on 0 for off?
[20:37] <tormod> hi guys!
[20:41] <Sarvatt> heyo :D
[20:45] <Sarvatt> 0.16.2-1 (in Ubuntu) to 0.16.2-1~xorgedgers (243 bytes)
[20:45] <Sarvatt> @tormod
[20:47] <bryce> Sarvatt, what was discussed was adding a way to queue up dkms requests during install, so after all base packages are done installing, it does a cycle of dkms builds prior to the reboot
[20:52] <Sarvatt> like add a test for dkms to see if it exists and run it in the gdm shutdown script if so maybe?
[20:56] <bryce> well I got the impression it'd be part of the upgrader, rather than gdm
[20:56] <bryce> but yeah something like that
[20:56] <bryce> ok I'm getting evil eyed by my wife for not being more helpful packing for the beach... gotta go
[20:57] <Sarvatt> have fun man!
[20:58] <RAOF> Yay! Beach!
[21:03] <Sarvatt> hopefully the weather isnt as crappy there as it is here, we've got another 2 days of rain coming :D
[21:04] <tormod> beach? it's skiing season
[21:09] <Sarvatt> maybe they're going somewhere on the way to UDS, its like 80 degrees in texas right now :D
[22:15] <tormod> booting the lucid kernel now, want to check KMS also
[22:16] <Sarvatt> hey you pulled a sarvatt!
[22:17] <Sarvatt> i wish i had my hd2400 pro in the HTPC still, too much of a pain in the butt putting it in to try it out when at best it'll just work like normal but slow.. lol
[23:58] <maco> what's that command to generate a skeleton xorg.conf?