[00:09] <sanubuntu> hey guys, i've used the same 9.10 disk on two different laptops .. the first went off without a hitch .. but on this one (an old toshiba satellite) i don't get a desktop image, even tho i've selected one of the ubuntu studio ones.  what could be the case?  when i go to shut down, the image does appear briefly, but is not rendered in session.
[00:15] <sanubuntu> i just save a photo to the desktop to see if it shows up, it doesn't show up on 'the desktop' area, but it IS in the desktop file  ...
[00:25] <sanubuntu> hey guys, i've used the same 9.10 disk on two different laptops .. the first went off without a hitch .. but on this one (an old toshiba satellite) i don't get a desktop image, even tho i've selected one of the ubuntu studio ones.  what could be the case?  when i go to shut down, the image does appear briefly, but is not rendered in session.
[00:25] <sanubuntu> i just save a photo to the desktop to see if it shows up, it doesn't show up on 'the desktop' area, but it IS in the desktop file  ...
[00:29] <sanubuntu> this problem driving me batty, i trying to get this laptop ready to leave as a gift in costa rica b4 i leave on saturday .. arrrrgggghhhh
[00:39] <_YeahRight> anyone here can help me to mount a windows share in xubuntu 9.10? there is a program called gigolo which i'm supposed to use but it tells me : Failed to mount windows share
[00:39] <_YeahRight> anyone? this is prob a very basic question to someone with a bit of xubuntu experience ;-)
[01:11] <subspider> _yeahright
[01:11] <subspider> are you there
[01:12] <sanubuntu> hey guys, i've used the same 9.10 disk on two different laptops .. the first went off without a hitch .. but on this one (an old toshiba satellite) i don't get a desktop image, even tho i've selected one of the ubuntu studio ones.  what could be the case?  when i go to shut down, the image does appear briefly, but is not rendered in session.
[01:12] <sanubuntu> i just save a photo to the desktop to see if it shows up, it doesn't show up on 'the desktop' area, but it IS in the desktop file  ...
[01:13] <Bookman> Do Compiz effects work under xfce?
[01:15] <babarosa> Hello everybody! i am testing pidgin, can you "hear" me? If so, greetings from nightly austria :)
[01:16] <Bookman> babarosa, works fine
[01:18] <cody-somerville> Bookman, yes
[01:19] <Bookman> cody-somerville, how to enable them?  I just found the Window Manager Tweaks>Compositor screen, but how to turn Compiz on?
[01:19] <cody-somerville> Bookman, Follow this tutorial: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/
[01:21] <Bookman> cody-somerville, do I have to do all that even though I'm running xfce under standard ubuntu?  I already have compiz installed and working well under ubuntu (gnome)
[01:22] <babarosa> bookman, thank you. Cody-Somerville, i am impressed to "meet" you! I'll be quiet now and listen a bit.
[01:23] <cody-somerville> Bookman, if its already installed, just run compiz --replace
[01:23] <Bookman> cody-somerville, worked wonders, thanks.
[01:24] <cody-somerville> np
[01:27] <Bookman> hmmm, I don't seem to be able to have more then two workspaces.
[01:46] <sanubuntu> hey guys, i've used the same 9.10 disk on two different laptops .. the first went off without a hitch .. but on this one (an old toshiba satellite) i don't get a desktop image, even tho i've selected one of the ubuntu studio ones.  what could be the case?  when i go to shut down, the image does appear briefly, but is not rendered in session.
[01:46] <sanubuntu> i just save a photo to the desktop to see if it shows up, it doesn't show up on 'the desktop' area, but it IS in the desktop file  ...
[01:49] <cody-somerville> sanubuntu, I have no idea what you're asking.
[01:54] <sanubuntu> cody-somerville: i have no desktop (image)
[01:55] <sanubuntu> the rest of the system seems to be working, but i have no desktop image
[01:55] <sanubuntu> when i shut down, the image flashes on briefly, and disappears
[01:56] <sanubuntu> if i save something to 'desktop' i can access it through the filesystem, but it does not appear on the desktop
[01:57] <sanubuntu> cody-somerville: is that clearer?   ever heard of this problem b4?
[01:57] <cody-somerville> press alt+f2
[01:57] <cody-somerville> and type in: xfdesktop
[01:57] <cody-somerville> then click run
[01:58] <sanubuntu> ummm, its ubuntu in this case, will that still be same command?
[02:00] <sanubuntu> cody-somerville: will that be same command for ubuntu 9.10?
[02:00] <cody-somerville> sanubuntu, please see #ubuntu for support with Ubuntu.
[02:01] <cody-somerville> xfdesktop is for the xfce4 desktop
[02:31] <sanubuntu> cody-somerville: theres 1544 ppl in the ubuntu channel, i've been trying to get help for hours with no luck ..
[02:32] <sanubuntu> i've always got better help in #xubuntu, can't you plz help me with this prob
[02:32] <cody-somerville> sanubuntu, So you're saying the problem is that you have no desktop or just no desktop wallpaper?
[02:33] <sanubuntu> well, there is a desktop file, cause i saved a pic to it and accessed the pic through the filesystem
[02:34] <sanubuntu> but there is no desktop image, and of course the pic i saved does not appear on 'the desktop'
[02:34] <sanubuntu> its just a black screen
[02:35] <sanubuntu> everything else seems to work fine, i have an ubuntustudio background set for image, but it only appears momentarily when i shut down the system
[02:35] <cody-somerville> do the panels show up?
[02:35] <sanubuntu> i have gnome panels
[02:35] <sanubuntu> thats whats strange
[02:36] <cody-somerville> run this: nautilus &
[02:36] <sanubuntu> alt f2 ?
[02:36] <cody-somerville> sure
[02:38] <sanubuntu> msg: could not find /home/sanubuntu/&
[02:39] <sanubuntu> but i've run nautilus, cause i opened it to 'enable delete' yesterday
[02:42] <cody-somerville> sanubuntu, just run this: nautilus
[02:43] <sanubuntu> k, nautilus open
[02:48] <sanubuntu> cody-somerville: i got nautilus open
[02:48] <cody-somerville> no desktop?
[02:49] <sanubuntu> theres a desktop file, with the two pics i saved to desktop inside
[02:50] <sanubuntu> cody-somerville, i'm guessing that there must be a hidden file somewhere that orders desktop rendering?
[02:53] <cody-somerville> sanubuntu, did you disable rendering of the desktop?
[02:53] <sanubuntu> cody-somerville: nope, wouldn't know how
[02:54] <cody-somerville> sanubuntu, you can try deleting your gconf settings
[02:54] <cody-somerville> sanubuntu, rm -rf ~/.gconf2
[02:54] <cody-somerville> sanubuntu, then logout and log back in
[02:55] <sanubuntu> you mean shutdown and restart?
[02:55] <cody-somerville> no, logout and log back in
[02:55] <sanubuntu> ok, i just ran rm -rf ~/.gconf2
[02:55] <sanubuntu> brb
[02:58] <sanubuntu> cody-somerville: nope, still no desktop image, but as i mentioned b4, upon logout or shutdown, it appears briefly .. just not in session
[02:59] <cody-somerville> sanubuntu, if you create a new account and log into that, does the same thing happen?
[02:59] <sanubuntu> haven't tried a new user account
[03:00] <sanubuntu> trying it now
[03:16] <carloschacon> cody-somerville: its me, sanubuntu ... how strange, yeah now i got bg image and desktop with new user account
[03:18] <carloschacon> also strange now instead of two gnome panels i have just one, and menu expands out of just one icon, instead of the Applications Places System standard appearance
[03:22] <lomeanen> hoi
[03:22] <carloschacon> cody-somerville: dangd thing now no tray for minimized apps .... arrrrrgggghhhhh ... but i do have a bg image
[03:22] <carloschacon> gotta quit for 2day, i'm in costa rica on vacation for gods sake .. hahaha .. time for a beer; thanx for your help
[03:24] <lomeanen> Can anyone tell me which file I have to edit to prevent compiz and cairo from starting on X-bootup? I'm running xubuntu 9.10.
[03:27] <lomeanen> Or is there another way to return to the default xfce 2d window manager. Dinstalling compiz and emerald results in windows without borders.
[03:29] <lomeanen> Deactivating compiz and cairo in system settings does not work either.
[04:11] <thumbtak1> Hello
[04:11] <thumbtak1> Can anyone help me with a driver issue?
[04:15] <likemindead> !ask | thumbtak1
[04:15] <thumbtak1> Okay
[04:15] <thumbtak1> Can anyone help me with a driver issue?
[04:16] <likemindead> ...
[04:16] <likemindead> Details, thumbtak1. What hardware? What drivers have you tried? Etc.
[04:17] <thumbtak1> I am trying to install a HP Pro Webcam Product number
[04:17] <thumbtak1> ...
[04:17] <thumbtak1> ew193aa#aba
[04:18] <likemindead> !webcam
[04:18] <thumbtak1> So my HP cam is not supported?
[04:19] <likemindead> May not be.
[04:20] <likemindead> http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/
[04:20] <thumbtak1> This stinks. I need this for work. Glad I kept windows installed also
[04:21] <likemindead> Yup. Too many vendors don't support Linux. :-\
[04:22] <likemindead> But, as you can see at that link, there are many webcams that work perfectly in Linux.
[04:22] <likemindead> Sell that HP on eBay & buy a new one. :-)
[04:22] <thumbtak1> I know. I work from home with a few jobs and one requires me to use a webcam. I can't do the job without it.
[04:22] <thumbtak1> My brother bought me it and I need a webcam all the time for work. If I sell it I would need one same day
[04:23] <likemindead> Okay, buy a new one first, then sell that one. ;-)
[04:24] <likemindead> I actually just bought a Hercules Dualpix Exchange on eBay for $25 shipped.
[04:26] <thumbtak1> Does it install easily in xubuntu?
[04:27] <likemindead> There's not really any "install" -- it should plug & play, more or less.
[04:28] <likemindead> And, like a lot of things in Linux, you can make adjustments/tweaks.
[04:28] <thumbtak1> I know
[04:28] <thumbtak1> I was trained in linux through college
[04:28] <likemindead> Cool.
[04:29] <thumbtak1> Terminal commands on red hat
[04:29] <thumbtak1> That is what I was trained in
[04:30] <likemindead> Running Xubuntu now? 9.10?
[04:30] <thumbtak1> Yes I used wubi-install in windows.
[04:31] <likemindead> Cool. I've haven't used Wubi. (Haven't used Windows at all in a couple of years.)
[04:33] <thumbtak1> It is a way of installing ubuntu and a few others without burning a CD/DVD. It downloads the ISO through its own software and then you are asked a few questions. After that you restart and in automatically does the whole install. No CD/DVD needed.
[04:34] <thumbtak1> I like that as I am always installing latest copy
[04:34] <likemindead> I'm familiar with it. Work well for you?
[04:34] <thumbtak1> It worked with no problems. Only thing I had to do was edit the root password after install.
[04:35] <likemindead> Nice.
[04:35] <thumbtak1> I am having a strange, very strange issue and with a strange way of stopping issue
[04:35] <likemindead> Karmic is still a little rough for some folks. They're working hard on the bugs.
[04:36] <thumbtak1> I hear a ticking noise out of speakers and it is caused from some application in the OS. The way I stop it is to start a flash application and stop or pause it. Then I minimize it and the noise stops. I leave it minimized.
[04:37] <thumbtak1> Do you know why that is?
[04:39] <likemindead> Strange. I do not. :-\
[04:39] <thumbtak1> I know. Is it a flash glitch in the firefox plugin?
[04:40] <thumbtak1> At least I can shut it up
[04:41] <thumbtak1> I couldn't sleep over it. I had my internal and external speakers on laptop going off.
[04:42] <thumbtak1> That was weird
[04:44] <thumbtak1> My other issue is I would like to get my gamepad working also. Do you know how to get that working? I can't find any guide out there that makes since to me.
[04:45] <likemindead> Again, some hardware is supported & some isn't.
[04:45] <likemindead> I bought a $10 Logitech gamepad that works great for old NES/SNES/Genesis emulation.
[04:45] <thumbtak1> I got a really good one that works great. With a built in fan for hand cooling
[04:46] <thumbtak1> Mine was 18 but normally 50 or so
[04:46] <thumbtak1> How did you you begin to get it reconized?
[04:46] <likemindead> It just worked. :-\
[04:47] <thumbtak1> Oh like the cam too??
[04:47] <likemindead> All I had to do was assign the buttons in each emulator.
[04:48] <thumbtak1> Let me try this again
[04:53] <thumbtak1> Nope this is what it says...
[04:53] <thumbtak1> Pad 1: /dev/js0
[04:53] <thumbtak1> No such file or directory
[04:59] <Techie> just asked in #compiz before but i feel i need a few more opinnions, when i get my new ATI Radeon HD3650, do i try for open sourfce drivers or go straight for fglrx?
[05:00] <Techie> going from http://upload.ecvv.com/upload/Product/20085/China_ATI_Radeon_9600XT_AGP_256MB_128BIT_DDR__VGA_Card20085301727025.JPG
[05:00] <Techie> to http://pcmeal.web.aplus.net/ebay/HIS/HD3650A/HD3650_iCoolerII_AGP_160001.JPG
[05:07] <Techie_> so what does #xubuntu think?
[05:18] <Techie_> !ati
[06:19] <Xngavizar> 'allelujjah bruderz
[06:19] <Xngavizar> Sziasztok dicoseges tesvereim az Urban
[06:20] <Xngavizar> Allah fenyes tekintetje ragyogjon azs Ti orczatokra
[06:31] <schizoTK> Hello xubuntu gurus!
[10:48] <lomeanen> How can I return from compiz ti the default window manager in xubuntu, so that it boots with out compiz and cairo.
[10:49] <lomeanen> ?  - Which configuration file needs to be edited?
[10:49] <lomeanen> Victor667Gibson
[10:50] <lomeanen> VVVVVVvvrkkkkk
[10:54] <Sysi> lomeanen: remove everything from ~/.cache/sessions
[10:54] <Sysi> run "xfwm4 --replace"
[10:55] <Sysi> and save session when you log out
[10:55] <Sysi> i think that should do it
[10:57] <freewillie> hello
[11:00] <MaxFrames> hello. I am affected by this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/397892
[11:00] <MaxFrames> the screensaver does not run when the computer has been idle for the set amount of time, it only starts manually
[11:01] <MaxFrames> I am confused because after upgrading to karmic I have two separate control panels for power saving: one is called xfce4 power manager and the other is gnome's
[11:02] <MaxFrames> I don't understand the need for two separate panels; and by the way they are currently set up differently and I'm not sure if either is working, or both, or none
[11:02] <Sysi> i setted other to not start on boot
[11:02] <Sysi> when i had two power-managers
[11:02] <MaxFrames> for instance, if I select "always show icon" in xfce4pm it does not work (no icon appears)
[11:03] <MaxFrames> Sysi: are you using xubuntu karmic? does the screensaver work for you?
[11:03] <Sysi> i haven't tried
[11:03] <Sysi> i don't use screensaver
[11:03] <MaxFrames> if you could try it (set it to 1 minute and then wait) you would do me a great favor
[11:04] <MaxFrames> I often leave the PC unattended, and having to start the screensaver (with screenlock) manually every time is a nuisance
[11:14] <MaxFrames> does it work? :)
[11:15] <Sysi> i'm not on my own computer right now
[11:15] <Sysi> this is some debian with old kde :E
[11:15] <MaxFrames> ok
[11:16] <MaxFrames> it's a curious thing: this bug first surfaced on launchpad last summer, and it's still standing, and now triaged, but unassigned yet
[11:17] <MaxFrames> considering the other issues with karmic, I wonder if Canonical pushed the deadline to confront MS's 7
[11:18] <MaxFrames> IMHO karmic wasn't ready yet... 1 week in RC and then release?!
[11:28] <lomeanen> Thank you Sysi, I'll give your proposal a try.
[11:30] <lomeanen> Another question: I would like to see the bootmessages at bootup, not that xfce mouse. How can I change that?
[11:30] <lomeanen> (permannently)
[11:43] <Balsaq> Teeeccchhhhiiieeeee
[11:44] <freewillie> So, it is busy here
[11:45] <freewillie> What is going on?
[11:46] <freewillie> nothing?
[11:48] <freewillie> Thats not very much, is it?
[12:14] <MaxFrames> bbl
[12:44] <lucijan> hi there!
[12:45] <lucijan> is there a way to boot in recovery mode and suppress the recovery menu?
[12:45] <lucijan> and is there a way to run update-grub for a different root directory?
[12:47] <lucijan> the problem with the recovery menu is, that it steals "focus" from the shell but just a second after the recovery menu shows up i'm brought into a maintenance shell (because i should run fsck) but i can't type (beacuse of the menu)
[12:47] <lucijan> hope anyone can understand this wired long sentence ;)
[13:00] <slow-motion> hi
[13:02] <slow-motion> i use xubuntu 9.10. the borders around the windows are gone
[13:02] <slow-motion> and also the buttons to minimize, maximize and so on
[13:02] <slow-motion> how do i get them back?
[13:12] <xsteadfastx> how can i use ubuntu one within xubuntu? is there a manual for that?
[13:44] <alienkid10> When I try and run "schroot -c Karmic -u root" as my normal user it asks for a password I tried my password what else should i try?
[15:14] <subspider> hi my wine sparator in menu applications disapear
[15:15] <subspider> can you help me
[15:15] <subspider> ??
[15:16] <BlouBlou> subspider: I think you are saying windows, right? not wine
[15:16] <subspider> lol no
[15:16] <Sysi> subspider: what you want to do?
[15:16] <subspider> i installed wine
[15:17] <subspider> and you install wine you have a saparator in taskbar
[15:17] <subspider> in apllicantion called i think is "OTHERS"
[15:18] <subspider> the separator disapiared
[15:18] <Sysi> idk how to get it back
[15:19] <subspider> i when to to the folder windows but there is nothing in there
[15:19] <Sysi> you get to settings by running "winecfg"
[15:19] <subspider> terminal
[15:19] <subspider> ??
[15:19] <Sysi> or alt + f2
[15:20] <subspider> well the make wine running yes
[15:20] <subspider> thats good
[15:20] <subspider> but i need to run an application
[15:20] <Sysi> double click
[15:20] <subspider> that it should be installed
[15:21] <Sysi> well, it's somewhere under ~/.wine/
[15:21] <Sysi> ctrl + h in thunar shows hidden folders
[15:21] <subspider> nice
[15:21] <subspider> i was to ask you that
[15:21] <subspider> hehe
[15:23] <subspider> thnks
[15:23] <subspider> it worked
[15:23] <subspider> :D
[15:24] <subspider> thnk you sysi and Bloublou
[16:12] <lomeanen> Does anyone know how to disable the picture of the xfce mouse at bootup and instead show the bootup messages?
[16:12] <lomeanen> (In Karmic xubuntu)
[16:50] <st> hoi
[16:50] <Pres-Gas> Hey, st
[16:50] <st> can someone help me to install xbmc ?
[16:51] <st> i have done everything like it's said on this website: http://xbmc.org/wiki/?title=HOW-TO_install_XBMC_for_Linux_on_Ubuntu_with_a_minimal_installation_step-by-step
[16:52] <st> but xbmc is not listed in the Package manager, and sudo apt-get install xbmc leaves me with "Couldn't find package xbmc"
[16:53] <st> is ubuntu filtering my sources because it
[16:53] <benchik> hello
[16:53] <st> it's not compatible with my system? (first thought)
[16:53] <benchik> was smbclient fixed in xubuntu 9.10?
[16:53] <st> hoi
[16:56] <petsounds> good evening.. i have problem during the boot process.. after the grub options ubuntu won't start the usplash but only have _ blinking. how can i fix this? thanks
[16:59] <Pres-Gas> st, did you add the ppa.launchpad.net repo in that wiki?
[16:59] <Pres-Gas> benchik, what was broken?
[17:05] <benchik> Pres-Gas: there was a bug in smbclient (inherited from debian) that made the local net connection drop after a minute or so
[17:11] <Pres-Gas> You have the debian bug number, benchik?
[17:11] <benchik> Pres-Gas: lemme check
[17:13] <benchik> how is the site where you report bugs called?
[17:14] <benchik> bugzilla?
[17:14] <Pres-Gas> Do you have the launchpad bug number, benchik?  Where did you see there was a bug, post the url or something.
[17:15] <benchik> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fusesmb/+bug/198351
[17:15] <Pres-Gas> bugs.debian.org is the debian site bugs.launchpad.net is the Ubu stuff
[17:19] <Pres-Gas> It is unlikely, otherwise the launchpad site would say "Fix Released".  You could comment in that link you gave and ask for an update.
[17:23] <benchik> Pres-Gas: the only reason i haven't updated to 8.10 at the time was this bug. i hope 10.04 will fix that. currently i have 8.04 lts
[17:30] <Pres-Gas> benchik, what are you using smbclient for?
[17:31] <Pres-Gas> ...or are you using fusesmb?
[17:31] <MrNaz> how would you get esata drives working in karmic? note that i need hotplugging capability
[17:34] <benchik> Pres-Gas: i use fusesmb
[17:35] <Pres-Gas> benchik, what for?  There may be other alternatives depending on what you are using it for
[17:35] <benchik> my other pc runs winxp
[17:37] <Pres-Gas> Yes, but what are you accessing that is on the winxp machine?  Files?  Printing?
[17:37] <benchik> files and printing. both ways
[17:37] <Pres-Gas> ...is the XP mchine stand alone or joined to the domain?
[17:38] <Pres-Gas> give us some DETAILS....don't be vague
[17:38] <benchik> Pres-Gas: i have 2 pc's one xubuntu one winxp connected to a DSL modem-router
[17:39] <benchik> which is a DHCP server
[17:46] <Pres-Gas> fusesmb does not imply printing...are you using it for printing or are you using cups?
[17:51] <cgroza> helloo, i use xubuntu and each time i log in firefox and synaptic start...i checked start up applications but are not listed....HELP its very ....
[17:51] <cgroza> i hate this
[17:52] <cgroza> anyone
[18:03] <benchik> Pres-Gas: i don't know.
[18:03] <benchik> Pres-Gas: but i mostly use fusesmb to have drives sharing between the winxp machine and xubuntu machine
[18:19] <hunger__> Hi All, for xubuntu 9.10 do you needto install emerald to get compiz working?
[18:19] <Sysi> i had in 9.04
[18:26] <hunger__> that's what i had to do in 9.04 too, wasn't sure if it had changed in 9.10
[18:26] <hunger__> thanks
[18:57] <kaali_m> is there a known issue with xubuntu setup not starting?
[18:57] <kaali_m> the laptop is from 03 and has run other distros no problem before?
[18:59] <kaali_m> setup the screen goes black and nothing happens
[19:34] <likemindead> 0__o
[20:07] <bcgrown> hello
[20:10] <bcgrown> goodbye
[20:10] <Sysi> my theory on 3 magical minutes still work :P
[20:34] <likemindead> I think people should have to read an IRC etiquette/tutorial before joining....
[20:38] <Pres-Gas> Sysi, enlighten me on the 3 magical minutes?
[20:38] <Sysi> :D
[20:38] <Sysi> if i can help, i will
[20:39] <Pres-Gas> ...within 3 min, Sysi?
[20:39] <Sysi> can't be sure :/
[20:40] <Sysi> and always school etc messing up important thing
[20:40] <Sysi> s
[20:47] <felix_> since I upgraded to 9.10, I'm asked for the password on shutdown. Anyone knows why?
[21:01] <xsteadfastx> felix_: me too...but just sometimes
[21:04] <felix_> I don't know.. I don't feel too comfy with dialog boxes asking me for my password..
[21:05] <felix_> I mean wtf.., I'm sitting at this computer. You ask me for a pw? I just pull the plug..
[21:10] <stevensj> Hello.  Can anybody help me with some screen resolution / Xorg.conf issues in Xubuntu 9.10, please?
[21:11] <Pres-Gas> felix_, I wonder if it is a Policykit thing
[21:13] <felix_> Pres-Gas, I tried to look thrugh the settings, but couldn't find anything.. I didn't look too long thoug,.
[21:14] <SWCDX|WOR> hello, i installed xubuntu on a very old pc which i only need for telnetting. my questions is is there a vnc server or remote desktop i can install on xubuntu. TIA
[21:14] <felix_> this is where linux for human beings ends..
[21:14] <Pres-Gas> how so, felix_?
[21:14] <Pres-Gas> Bugs happen, my friend.
[21:14] <felix_> and I'm fine with that. The question is, is it a bug..?
[21:15] <Pres-Gas> felix_, you should time travel back about 5 years and see how it was before...
[21:15] <Pres-Gas> I am looking at bugs myself...hang on
[21:16] <felix_> Pres-Gas, 5 years ago I used gentoo and nothing unexpected happened :)
[21:16] <Pres-Gas> Ummmm....right  ;)
[21:18] <felix_> I never heard of PolicyKit before...
[21:22] <Pres-Gas> felix_, have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/445953
[21:22] <Pres-Gas> !445953
[21:31] <stevensj> SWCDX: What are you telnetting into?  If it is another Linux system, try ssh.  You might need to install a server to be able to access your own box.  sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[21:33] <SWCDX|WOR> stevensj i am trying to setup a remote desktop or vnc server on xubuntu
[21:33] <SWCDX|WOR> but i can find it on the software
[21:33] <SWCDX|WOR> can = cannot
[21:33] <stevensj> SWCDX|WOR why?
[21:34] <SWCDX|WOR> just in case i need to walk someone
[21:34] <SWCDX|WOR> i knwo it's retarded but so are my users
[21:34] <felix_> Pres-Gas thanks, I'll comment on that one.
[21:35] <stevensj> SWCDX|WOR If your users are using Linux, then ssh will let you access them.  If they are on Windows, then I'm not sure how to do it.
[21:37] <SWCDX|WOR> well these users will have xubuntu i am just trying to install remote desktop server. i know with ubuntu it already comes installed
[21:40] <stevensj> OK.  I don't know much about the ubuntu thing, but I think that I know what you mean.  For some changes, I connect to remote machines with ssh -X user@machine.  This opens a terminal, but the '-X' bit means that if I open a GUI program, it opens on my screen.
[21:42] <SWCDX|WOR> oh wow
[21:42] <SWCDX|WOR> never tried that
[22:17] <stevensj> Hi.  Does anyone know how to use xorg.conf in 9.10.  I've made one, but it doesn't seem to be getting used.
[23:10] <MoonTiger> hi :)
[23:10] <likemindead> !hi | MoonTiger
[23:10] <MoonTiger> does anyone know how to get evolution touse the new sexy notification bubbles for new mail?
[23:11] <MoonTiger> touse = to use
[23:16] <MoonTiger> no?
[23:16] <MoonTiger> *sigh*
[23:21] <yaniravargas__> guys, does anyone know of a help channel for damn small linux, trying to connect an OLD machine xubuntu seems too heavy for it
[23:22] <yaniravargas> nm, found it thanx
[23:40] <MrNaz> how would you get esata drives working in karmic? note that i need hotplugging capability
[23:41] <MrNaz> when i plug a drive in i thought it would appear as /dev/sdx