| cody-somerville | Running make results in the following error: | 00:37 |
|---|---|---|
| cody-somerville | Error: Couldn't find a distribution for 'lazr.restful==0.9.17'. | 00:37 |
| cody-somerville | any clues? | 00:37 |
| mwhudson | cody-somerville: bzr update download-cache maybe? | 00:38 |
| cody-somerville | I was just going to try that | 00:38 |
| cody-somerville | mwhudson, thanks. That seems to have fixed it. | 00:39 |
| mwhudson | rocketfuel-get will do that for you | 00:40 |
| mwhudson | (but i don't use that) | 00:40 |
| cody-somerville | I don't use it either | 00:40 |
| mwhudson | i'm sure some people do :) | 00:41 |
| maxb | Has anyone floated the idea of making "Policy: You must be a team member to subscribe to the team mailing list. " configurable in the past? | 00:46 |
| thumper | cody-somerville: I have a simple bash script I use for updating stuff | 00:48 |
| thumper | cody-somerville: involves cd and bzr pull :) | 00:48 |
| maxb | ditto :-) | 00:49 |
| maxb | rocketfuel-* is mostly too magic for my liking | 00:49 |
| thumper | maxb: my thoughts exactly | 00:52 |
| thumper | I prefer a simpler magic | 00:52 |
| cody-somerville | I want to interact with an object in launchpad via python shell. Whats the easiest way to go about that? | 00:52 |
| mwhudson | cody-somerville: launchpadlib isn't too bad for interactive use | 00:53 |
| * thumper agrees with mwhudson | 00:54 | |
| cody-somerville | this function isn't exposed via the API | 00:54 |
| mwhudson | cody-somerville: submit a patch :-) | 00:54 |
| cody-somerville | nor should it be exposed <g> | 00:55 |
| cody-somerville | or maybe it could be | 00:55 |
| maxb | getting launchpadlib going in a python shell is harder than it needs to be | 00:57 |
| maxb | unless there are helpers that I'm unaware of | 00:57 |
| maxb | bug 425856. I solicit comments :-) | 00:58 |
| mup | Bug #425856: non-team members cannot subscribe to launchpad/team mailing list <Launchpad itself:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/425856> | 00:58 |
| mwhudson | maxb: getting going is a bit of a pita yes | 00:58 |
| cody-somerville | mwhudson, thumper: basically, I want to cal an SQL helper method to see what the result is | 00:58 |
| mwhudson | cody-somerville: the correct interface for that is "a losa" i think? | 00:58 |
| mwhudson | if you can run an irc client in you python terminal, that might work :) | 00:58 |
| mwhudson | cody-somerville: or do you mean locally? | 00:59 |
| spm | SELECT CAN HAZ CHEEZEBURGER FROM GREASYS | 00:59 |
| cody-somerville | :) | 00:59 |
| cody-somerville | mwhudson, locally | 00:59 |
| wgrant | cody-somerville: 'make harness' | 00:59 |
| mwhudson | yes, make harness | 00:59 |
| cody-somerville | can I do that when launchpad is running? | 00:59 |
| mwhudson | yep | 01:00 |
| cody-somerville | thanks | 01:03 |
| cody-somerville | Now, whats the easiest way to get the object for a particular bug filed against a source package in a distribution? | 01:03 |
| thumper | cody-somerville: using its number | 01:04 |
| cody-somerville | Is there some zope magic I invoke against the interface or some helper function? | 01:04 |
| * thumper looks | 01:05 | |
| thumper | getUtility(IBugSet).get(number) | 01:05 |
| cody-somerville | thanks | 01:07 |
| cody-somerville | I suppose I should refer to the doctests | 01:07 |
| cody-somerville | lots of good examples there | 01:07 |
| mwhudson | well | 01:08 |
| mwhudson | lots of examples, at least | 01:08 |
| * ajmitch saw some lovely doctests in thumper's talk :) | 01:10 | |
| thumper | I didn't read the doctests for that | 01:10 |
| thumper | I went to lib/lp/bugs/interfaces/bug.py | 01:10 |
| ajmitch | oh it was in the testing discussion, wasn't it? | 01:10 |
| thumper | heh | 01:10 |
| ajmitch | you showed off branch.txt | 01:11 |
| jml | :( | 01:11 |
| thumper | jml: it was an example of a bad doctest | 01:12 |
| jml | good good :) | 01:12 |
| ajmitch | jml: don't worry, he didn't say it was all crap | 01:12 |
| mwhudson | branch.txt is very largely crap | 01:13 |
| ajmitch | thumper: where can I read about the factory stuff you mentioned earlier? | 01:13 |
| thumper | ajmitch: look at any tests in the lp.code area | 01:13 |
| thumper | ajmitch: or look in lp.testing.factory | 01:13 |
| thumper | ajmitch: we tend to use TestCaseWithFactory from lp.testing | 01:13 |
| ajmitch | ok, thanks | 01:13 |
| thumper | ajmitch: if you are using a doctest, there is a factory glob object | 01:14 |
| jml | factories are cool | 01:14 |
| jml | but | 01:14 |
| jml | ours is really slow | 01:14 |
| jml | and it ought to have tests of its own | 01:14 |
| ajmitch | lp.testing.factory does look rather large to wade through | 01:15 |
| jml | thumper, you know what would be great | 01:20 |
| thumper | jml: unlimited cosmic power? | 01:20 |
| jml | thumper, being able to see all the trunk branches I have commit access to | 01:20 |
| jml | thumper, what do you think? | 01:27 |
| thumper | jml: useful for some people | 01:27 |
| thumper | jml: what is your main use case? | 01:28 |
| jml | thumper, I want to find my projects. | 01:28 |
| jml | thumper, I have quite a few of them now. | 01:28 |
| thumper | jml: I'd much rather have a way to personally associate myself with a project | 01:28 |
| thumper | jml: that is of more interest to more people | 01:28 |
| jml | thumper, I don't get it. You want to enter even more data? | 01:29 |
| thumper | yes | 01:29 |
| thumper | if | 01:29 |
| thumper | I can have a page that just shows me about projects I care about | 01:29 |
| thumper | kinda like a "follow" this project | 01:29 |
| jml | hmm | 01:30 |
| jml | I think I'd still want to be able to see the projects I have commit rights to | 01:30 |
| cody-somerville | wgrant, where is the configuration for lucile kept at? | 01:31 |
| wgrant | cody-somerville: Which bit? | 01:31 |
| cody-somerville | publisher | 01:32 |
| wgrant | Some in the DB, some in configs/development/launchpad-lazr.conf, some in configs/schema-lazr.conf | 01:32 |
| wgrant | And the occasional bit hardcoded. | 01:33 |
| wgrant | https://dev.launchpad.net/Soyuz/HowToUseSoyuzLocally is my documentation on setting the whole thing up. | 01:33 |
| thumper | jml: where would you put the link? | 01:34 |
| jml | thumper, why not make it part of the personal code page | 01:34 |
| thumper | could do... | 01:35 |
| thumper | patches accepted | 01:35 |
| ajmitch | jml: I suppose that you could have write access to quite a few projects indirectly through teams? | 01:35 |
| jml | ajmitch, yes. | 01:35 |
| jml | thumper, I'm actually still waiting on a chance to get my other patches landed. | 01:35 |
| jml | thumper, can you please review upload-permission-joy? | 01:38 |
| jml | how do I expose a function over the API that takes a list of URLs as a parameter? | 01:43 |
| thumper | rockstar: how do I assert that an xpath doesn't exist in a windmill test? | 01:45 |
| Ursinha | hey wgrant :) | 01:51 |
| wgrant | Hi Ursinha. | 01:51 |
| Ursinha | my lp setup still wants to use the 0.9.9 version of lazr.restfulclient when I have the 0.9.10 inside the download-cache folder | 01:55 |
| Ursinha | what do I have to do to lp use the newest? | 01:55 |
| wgrant | Merge from devel. | 01:55 |
| wgrant | (or alter versions.cfg manually) | 01:56 |
| Ursinha | thanks wgrant :) I'd like to know which file defined that | 01:58 |
| wgrant | You might also have to run bin/buildout again, I guess. | 01:58 |
| jml | yay | 01:58 |
| MTecknology | Where's the bestest best best place to get help on LP API; right here? | 01:59 |
| thumper | MTecknology: yep | 02:03 |
| MTecknology | thumper: How do I get my hands on it so I can use it? I feel like I'm about to dive into a sea of sharks with this but my company wants two of us to learn all we can about it | 02:04 |
| thumper | MTecknology: to what end? | 02:05 |
| MTecknology | One reason is because we want to modify some core tools we use to utilize the openid+login process of Launchpad so the use of LP is entirely transparent to the user. We're also looking into our own server to host the LP server | 02:06 |
| MTecknology | If we can get that, then we're looking into using it for a support ticket system and other things | 02:07 |
| thumper | MTecknology: the project is launchpadlib, and I believe it has good docs | 02:08 |
| jml | next question | 02:08 |
| jml | how can I expose a method that returns a dict? | 02:09 |
| jml | mapping URLs to IBranch | 02:09 |
| wgrant | jml: Give up, I'm afraid :( | 02:09 |
| jml | wgrant, that sucks. | 02:09 |
| wgrant | It does. | 02:09 |
| jml | wgrant, I guess a list will work ok in this context though. | 02:09 |
| wgrant | You can return a dict, but launchpadlib will just see it as a dict of URLs to URLs. | 02:10 |
| MTecknology | thumper: thanks. I was trying to figure out how we could do everything that's being planned and it hit me that Launchpad can handle every piece of that | 02:12 |
| wgrant | MTecknology: I don't see what the LP API has to do with this. | 02:13 |
| thumper | jml: I think leonard is working on exposing a dict over ReST | 02:13 |
| jml | thumper, that's good. | 02:13 |
| * thumper throws hands in the air | 02:14 | |
| thumper | how can XPath have "and" and "or" but not "not"? | 02:14 |
| MTecknology | wgrant: I don't really understand what the api is; but I was told to get it so we can see if it will help us | 02:15 |
| jml | MTecknology, https://help.launchpad.net/API | 02:17 |
| jml | kfogel, hi | 02:18 |
| kfogel | jml: hey | 02:19 |
| jml | kfogel, how's things? | 02:20 |
| kfogel | jml: well, I discovered halfway through the day that today was a U.S. holiday, that was interesting :-). How's the sprint going? | 02:21 |
| jml | kfogel, good. | 02:21 |
| jml | kfogel, less coding than I had hoped, but probably the better for it. | 02:21 |
| kfogel | jml: ah, too bad, but that's what happens when you know too much | 02:22 |
| poolie | hello | 02:23 |
| poolie | nice reply there kfogel | 02:23 |
| poolie | it's thanksgiving isn't it? | 02:24 |
| kfogel | poolie: thanks. I was wondering if it was too harsh; glad you didn't find it so. It's not Thanksgiving yet, btw, but it is Veterans Day in the US. | 02:25 |
| thumper | poolie: veterans day | 02:25 |
| poolie | oh right | 02:25 |
| thumper | thanksgiving is in two weeks | 02:25 |
| poolie | armistice day is observed here but not a holiday | 02:26 |
| * kfogel is glad the whole world knows US holidays, and wonders if it has something to do with all our missiles | 02:26 | |
| Ursinha | lol | 02:27 |
| Ursinha | jml, do you know which commit message ec2 script considers when using the land command? | 02:27 |
| jml | Ursinha, the one on the merge proposal page | 02:27 |
| thumper | kfogel: no, just approved rockstar's holidays, that's all | 02:27 |
| jml | Ursinha, you can provide one as an option to ec2 land | 02:27 |
| kfogel | thumper: heh | 02:28 |
| thumper | Ursinha: but don't add all the [xx] rubbish to that commit message :) | 02:28 |
| Ursinha | thumper, oops, why? | 02:28 |
| thumper | Ursinha: because the land commands adds them | 02:28 |
| thumper | Ursinha: based on who reviews/approves, bugs et al. | 02:28 |
| Ursinha | thumper, makes sense | 02:28 |
| jml | Ursinha, --dry-run ftw | 02:29 |
| Ursinha | jml, :) | 02:29 |
| maxb | Speaking of the [xx] rubbish, is there a reference to what it all means anywhere? | 02:29 |
| jml | maxb, if it's not on the dev wiki, then probably not. | 02:29 |
| jml | maxb, the source code for ec2 land might actually have pointers to docs :) | 02:29 |
| maxb | not that I've been able to find | 02:30 |
| wgrant | The only one that was unobvious to me was rs. | 02:30 |
| jml | maxb, in that case, I won't be able to help you find docs, since I looked for docs when I wrote land :) | 02:30 |
| maxb | Well, yeah, I think I've figured most of them out by example by now. But [!log] still mystifies me (seen in some sourcecode branch I forget which) | 02:31 |
| jml | maxb, don't include it in the news announcement for the release. | 02:32 |
| jml | maxb, we used to use it to make preparing announcements easier. We don't any more. | 02:32 |
| kfogel | poolie: nice response -- I didn't mean to guilt-trip you, though! :-) | 02:43 |
| poolie | not at all | 02:43 |
| jml | I am feeling unhappy | 02:43 |
| jml | and it is because of software | 02:43 |
| jml | again | 02:43 |
| jml | If I return a list of branches over the API, but some of those branches are None, then the 'None' objects don't appear in the list. | 02:44 |
| jml | AFAICT, this means that helper methods like IBranchSet.getByUrls are impossible | 02:48 |
| thumper | jml: and there isn't a map? | 02:53 |
| jml | thumper, there isn't. | 02:53 |
| jml | I'm going to have to think of a different example for my UDS session. | 02:55 |
| kfogel | jml: is there no way to match up the returned branches to the URL(s) originally requested? | 02:56 |
| jml | kfogel, not easily. | 02:56 |
| jml | kfogel, there are multiple attributes on branch that the URL might be matched on. | 02:56 |
| kfogel | jml: oh | 02:57 |
| jml | and some that aren't even attributes | 02:57 |
| jml | although matching against the returned bzr_identity, then matching against the returned branch.url and then falling back to matching the returned unique_name against the requested URL path would _probably_ get you most of the way there | 02:59 |
| jml | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/lazr.restful/+bug/481090 | 03:00 |
| mup | Bug #481090: Cannot define a method that returns a dict <lazr.restful:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/481090> | 03:00 |
| * thumper ndos | 03:20 | |
| PingJocky | good evening | 03:23 |
| thumper | afternoon :) | 03:37 |
| MTecknology | Can the LP API allow users to manage teams/users if the person using the API has that permission? | 03:54 |
| MTecknology | I know the API is used to pull info, not if it can pushing or altering | 03:54 |
| MTecknology | nevermind - I guess if I pay attention the first page kinda says I can do that | 03:56 |
| maxb | and the api documentation says exactly what can be done | 03:59 |
| MTecknology | maxb: I'm still looking aroudn for that. I don't refer to documentation much so reading through it is hard work for mew | 04:00 |
| maxb | https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/ | 04:03 |
| MTecknology | maxb: :D | 04:20 |
| MTecknology | thanks | 04:21 |
| === mwhudson_ is now known as mwhudson | ||
| jml | hey, people here know stuff | 06:26 |
| jml | I'm trying to prepare a USB stick for UDS that I can use to accelerate people having a Launchpad development environment | 06:26 |
| jml | my plan is to set up a minimal chroot, run rocketfuel-setup, make sure everything works, and then whack it all in a tarball | 06:27 |
| jml | does that sound sane? | 06:27 |
| wgrant | Awesome idea. | 06:27 |
| wgrant | As long as you rerun rocketfuel-setup at the other end, that does sound sane. | 06:29 |
| jml | well, I'm also not 100% clear on what people on the other end will need to do to get the chroot. | 06:29 |
| wgrant | Oh, you're going to copy the entire chroot? Hmm. | 06:30 |
| jml | that was my original plan | 06:30 |
| wgrant | That'll run into postgres port conflicts and other mess if they already have postgres installed. | 06:30 |
| jml | oh yeah | 06:30 |
| wgrant | Better to make rocketfuel-setup make less of a mess, so you don't really need a chroot. | 06:30 |
| jml | wgrant, I'm not going to have time to do that before UDS :) | 06:31 |
| wgrant | Plus even if you do have a chroot, you still need to modify /etc/hosts outside the chroot. | 06:31 |
| jml | so maybe just having the repo on a USB stick | 06:31 |
| wgrant | + sourcecode | 06:31 |
| jml | right. | 06:32 |
| jml | and make sure that rf-setup can be run in such a way as to respect the existing file | 06:32 |
| jml | s | 06:32 |
| wgrant | Get a clean ~/launchpad, remove devel from it, but keep a copy of rocketfuel-setup in there. | 06:32 |
| wgrant | It will already. | 06:32 |
| wgrant | If you extract the tarball into ~/launchpad as it expects, it will Just Work Very Quickly. | 06:33 |
| === abentley1 is now known as abentley | ||
| thumper | jml: what about a vm on a stick? | 06:42 |
| jml | thumper, the problem is then people need to know how to get a vm set up | 06:43 |
| jml | thumper, it's all about taking the smallest amount of time as possible so I can get on with the rest of the session. | 06:44 |
| thumper | jml: people need to know how to get a chroot set up too | 06:44 |
| thumper | jml: just a thought | 06:44 |
| jml | thumper, well yeah, that's why I'm not doing it :) | 06:44 |
| wgrant | If you're expecting quite a few people to set it up, it might be a good idea to remove some of the crap from rf-setup this week. | 06:45 |
| wgrant | eg. the SSH config stuff is no longer necessary. | 06:45 |
| jml | wgrant, maybe | 06:46 |
| jml | wgrant, are there bugs filed about all of this? | 06:46 |
| wgrant | jml: Bug #419028 | 06:47 |
| mup | Bug #419028: Don't edit SSH config in rocketfuel-setup <build-infrastructure> <Launchpad Foundations:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/419028> | 06:47 |
| jml | wgrant, know of anything else that ought to be removed / cleaned up that doesn't require much thinking? | 06:48 |
| wgrant | jml: I really feel that it's unnecessary to install rocketfuel-* in $PATH, but that's a slightly more destructive change. | 06:49 |
| jml | I agree on both counts. | 06:49 |
| wgrant | OTOH, it won't affect any existing installations. | 06:49 |
| wgrant | Apart from that, rf-setup isn't too bad. | 06:55 |
| wgrant | launchpad-database-setup, OTOH... | 06:55 |
| jml | wgrant, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jml/launchpad/rf-setup-cleanup/revision/9863 | 07:06 |
| wgrant | jml: Great. | 07:07 |
| wgrant | That probably makes it noninteractive, too. | 07:07 |
| wgrant | Hm, not quite. | 07:07 |
| wgrant | But close enough. | 07:07 |
| * mwhudson_ reviewatrons | 07:14 | |
| wgrant | Is there no link back from Loggerhead to the branch in LP? | 07:17 |
| wgrant | mwhudson_: Nice review comment, but your diff highlighter sucks. | 07:18 |
| mwhudson_ | wgrant: there is a link in the top left | 07:18 |
| mwhudson_ | wgrant: "watches pelcome" or something | 07:18 |
| wgrant | Ah, so there is. | 07:18 |
| wgrant | Oh, right, it assumes it's a header. | 07:20 |
| adeuring | good morning | 08:33 |
| mrevell | Morning | 09:10 |
| wgrant | bigjools: I don't see what your SourcePackageFormatSet methods do. | 09:15 |
| bigjools | wgrant: ok I'll explain in a moment | 09:15 |
| === dpm_ is now known as dpm | ||
| * thumper has many branches waiting for review | 09:30 | |
| * thumper has fixed two oopses today | 09:30 | |
| thumper | my work here is done | 09:30 |
| * thumper goes to wash disher | 09:30 | |
| thumper | s/disher/dishes/ | 09:31 |
| thumper | it's late | 09:31 |
| bigjools | wgrant: ok let's chat | 09:42 |
| bigjools | so, SourcePackageFormatSet would be a utility | 09:42 |
| bigjools | which is security wrapped | 09:43 |
| bigjools | we don't generally use __init__ methods in model classes | 09:43 |
| bigjools | the utility has the job of creating new instances | 09:43 |
| bigjools | so that it returns security-wrapped objects | 09:43 |
| pgquiles | I followed https://dev.launchpad.net/Soyuz/HowToUseSoyuzLocally to add builders but now I want to remove them. I've tried with "remove" instead of "add" ( scripts/ftpmaster-tools/manage-chroot.py -s lucid -a i386 remove -f chroot-ubuntu-lucid-i386.tar.bz2 ) but it does nothing. What am I doing wrong? | 09:45 |
| pgquiles | (sorry for repeating the question, noone answered yesterday and I haven't found a solution yet) | 09:46 |
| bigjools | pgquiles: that command deals with chroots, not builders | 09:48 |
| wgrant | bigjools: Right, yes. So it would be add(distroseries, format), and then there would be something like get(distroseries, format)? | 09:48 |
| wgrant | pgquiles: What did you expect it to do? | 09:49 |
| bigjools | wgrant: yep, pretty much, although not get(), getBySeriesAndFormat() | 09:49 |
| bigjools | wgrant: get() is normally used for getting by ID | 09:49 |
| wgrant | bigjools: Right. Thanks. | 09:49 |
| wgrant | bigjools: Now, what did you mean about the XXX? | 09:49 |
| wgrant | bigjools: There were some words omitted. | 09:49 |
| bigjools | wgrant: I read it back and it made sense to me, so maybe it's just my twisted English :) Basically, I would say don't worry about it and remove the XXX | 09:50 |
| pgquiles | wgrant: I want to remove a builder from launchpad.dev/builders, and I want to remove a chroot because I did manage-chroot.py -s karmic -a i386 add -f chroot-ubuntu-lucid-i386.tar.bz2 (I told LP to add a Lucid chroot for a Karmic series, my bad) | 09:50 |
| bigjools | pgquiles: mark it as manual and it disappears | 09:51 |
| wgrant | bigjools: "I'm trying to think if it would be bad to reject the upload if we detect orphan files, and I can't think of one." <- one what? reason to reject, I presume. | 09:51 |
| bigjools | wgrant: yes | 09:51 |
| bigjools | wgrant: my twisted English, sorry | 09:51 |
| wgrant | pgquiles: You actually want to mark the build as inactive, or something like that. | 09:51 |
| wgrant | Not manual -- that will still show up. | 09:51 |
| wgrant | pgquiles: You're sure that manage-chroot.py remove does nothing? | 09:52 |
| wgrant | bigjools: Thanks. Fixing now. | 09:52 |
| wgrant | I've never had cause to remove a chroot myself. | 09:52 |
| pgquiles | wgrant: I don't know if it does anything but builders are still there | 09:52 |
| pgquiles | even worse: when I try to add a new chroot, it adds it but it does not show in LP :-/ | 09:52 |
| wgrant | pgquiles: Chroots are not shown in LP. | 09:52 |
| pgquiles | wgrant: the launchpad.dev/builders/bob/+edit I mean | 09:53 |
| wgrant | pgquiles: That has nothing to do with any chroot. | 09:53 |
| pgquiles | ¿? | 09:53 |
| wgrant | pgquiles: A builder is it a builder. Its builds will use chroots, but it isn't directly related to them. | 09:54 |
| pgquiles | according to https://dev.launchpad.net/Soyuz/HowToUseSoyuzLocally you have to add a chroot, then mark Bob the Builder as OK | 09:54 |
| wgrant | Those steps are not related beyond both being prerequisites for a working build system. | 09:55 |
| bigjools | ah yes mark it as inactive to remove it from /builders | 09:55 |
| pgquiles | I don't understand anything :-( After I added a chroot, it was shown in the builders list and I could mark it OK and it worked fine | 09:56 |
| wgrant | The existing builder is shown in the builders list. | 09:56 |
| wgrant | Not the chroot. | 09:56 |
| pgquiles | what I want to do is remove a chroot (tried with 'remove' but it does nothing) and add a new chroot for jaunty (but after the 'remove' for lucid, it no longer works) | 09:56 |
| pgquiles | bigjools: it will not show the builder in /builders but it's still in LP, you can re-enable it again | 09:57 |
| pgquiles | wgrant: do you mean the builder is there but with no chroot? | 09:57 |
| bigjools | pgquiles: that's correct | 09:57 |
| pgquiles | ok, so, how do I completely remove a builder? | 09:57 |
| pgquiles | as in "this builder no longer has a chroot associated, I don't want it to be shown, even as inactive" | 09:59 |
| wgrant | Builders are not associated with chroots. | 10:01 |
| wgrant | You cannot completely remove a builder without removing lots of other sample data. | 10:01 |
| pgquiles | mmm so I add chroots to launchpad | 10:02 |
| pgquiles | and then I add builders | 10:02 |
| pgquiles | and builders will know what chroot to pick when a package needs to be built | 10:02 |
| pgquiles | is that it? | 10:02 |
| wgrant | Yes. | 10:02 |
| pgquiles | great :-) so builders are smarter than what I thought (and definitely smarter than I :-) ) | 10:03 |
| pgquiles | then, to fix my bad "manage-chroot.py -s karmic -a i386 remove -f chroot-ubuntu-lucid-i386.tar.bz2", can I just run "manage-chroot.py -s lucid -a i386 remove -f chroot-ubuntu-lucid-i386.tar.bz2" and that's it? | 10:04 |
| wgrant | bigjools: SourcePackageFormatSet, or should it be SourcePackageFormatSelectionSet? | 10:11 |
| bigjools | wgrant: the latter | 10:12 |
| bigjools | bit of a mouthful :/ | 10:12 |
| wgrant | There's worse. | 10:12 |
| pgquiles | one more question: virtualized builders. Are there any docs on how to set up one? (I can't find anything) | 10:18 |
| bigjools | no, there are no docs | 10:18 |
| pgquiles | and I guess it's not exactly easy, is it? | 10:20 |
| bigjools | depends on how much you know about virtualisation | 10:20 |
| pgquiles | I know virtualization but I've never set up Xen (which is what LP uses IIRC). Can it use something else (VMware, VBox, qemu, KVM) ? | 10:23 |
| bigjools | you can use what you like, it's nothing to do with LP | 10:24 |
| pgquiles | great | 10:24 |
| bigjools | exactly what are you setting up LP for? | 10:24 |
| pgquiles | for internal use at work | 10:24 |
| pgquiles | we are developing our own distribution for military use, based on kubuntu + packages for our software and backports from lucid, debian unstable and some stuff I've packaged and it's not available from debian or ubuntu | 10:25 |
| pgquiles | I think I'm the first one who requested to buy Launchpad for on site use but it was not available at the time (2+ years ago) | 10:26 |
| pgquiles | given that it's military use and our software is closed source, hosted LP commercial is not an option | 10:27 |
| maxb | I wonder how long it will be before enough people start wanting to rebrand launchpad that we actually end up with launchpad hosting projects/branches for a rebranding effort of itself | 10:30 |
| bigjools | I find someone internally using an open-source LP to host closed-source stuff extremely distasteful | 10:32 |
| pgquiles | bigjools: does Canonical sell a LP appliance, training, whatever? I've tried to BUY that but I was told (by Mark himself) Canonical does not sell that still | 10:33 |
| pgquiles | and I cannot upload military stuff to somewhere else, no matter how much security you promise | 10:33 |
| maxb | bigjools: why? | 10:34 |
| maxb | The way I see it, using Launchpad in that way takes nothing away from the Launchpad project, and might be the source of bug reports, fixes, and an interested contributor | 10:41 |
| pgquiles | I've fixed a missing quote in HowToUseSoyuzLocally and added the explanation on the non-association between builders and chroots, which was not obvious from reading the page | 11:10 |
| wgrant | It was a hasty conversion last week from a Tomboy note; I'm not surprised I missed a quote. | 11:11 |
| wgrant | Was the attachment change this morning just s/serieses/series/? | 11:11 |
| pgquiles | wgrant: yes, that was it - maxb told me what was failing | 11:12 |
| pgquiles | HowToUseSoyuzLocally says I should add an external dependency on "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu %(series) main restricted universe multiverse" to the PPA but when I try to do that from "add dependencies" in the PPA, LP fails. Is that the right place? Is that the line I should enter in the "Add PPA dependency" text entry? | 11:16 |
| maxb | "# We use Hoary as the root, as Breezy and Grumpy are broken." ....... Grumpy? :-) | 11:16 |
| wgrant | Grumpy Groundhog | 11:16 |
| wgrant | The long-fabled bleeding edge daily builds Ubuntu. | 11:16 |
| wgrant | Which somehow made it into the sample data. | 11:16 |
| pgquiles | mmm one little trick in /etc/hosts and now archive.launchpad.dev goes to archive.ubuntu.com... and it's building! | 11:24 |
| wgrant | pgquiles: If you followed my instructions, you shouldn't need to do that. | 11:25 |
| pgquiles | wgrant: I followed your instructions but I don't know how to add the external dependency on archive.ubuntu.com, adding it in the "Add PPA dependencies" page in LP does not work (Zope error) :-? | 11:27 |
| wgrant | pgquiles: See the field at the bottom of the PPA's +admin page. | 11:27 |
| bigjools | wgrant: heh, so that's why you said it was handy | 11:28 |
| pgquiles | wgrant: ah! that was it | 11:28 |
| pgquiles | wgrant: I thought I should add it to the "Edit PPA dependencies" page | 11:28 |
| pgquiles | thanks! | 11:28 |
| wgrant | bigjools: Yeah, it's particularly convenient for testing primary archive stuff. | 11:29 |
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| wgrant | bigjools: If I'm just dealing with PPAs, I just change archivepublisher.base_url to a local mirror. | 11:29 |
| bigjools | yeah | 11:29 |
| pgquiles | added to the wiki | 11:31 |
| wgrant | pgquiles: Note that that same thing is mentioned two steps earlier. | 11:31 |
| pgquiles | oops, right | 11:32 |
| wgrant | pgquiles: That looks better. | 11:35 |
| pgquiles | wgrant: sorry if this is a stupid question but, the section about "dealing with the primary archive", does it refer to a local mirror of archive.ubuntu.com (i. e. archive.launchpad.dev) ? the steps listed there, are they for adding PPA-built packages to archive.launchpad.dev? | 11:56 |
| wgrant | pgquiles: The primary archive is archive.launchpad.dev. But it's nothing about copying in PPA packages. | 11:57 |
| pgquiles | so those steps are for building the packages and adding them to archive.launchpad.dev *instead* of a PPA, is that it? | 12:00 |
| wgrant | Yes. | 12:00 |
| pgquiles | perfect, thank you | 12:01 |
| pgquiles | now looking into setting up virtualized builders! | 12:01 |
| wgrant | bigjools: Want an intermediate diff? | 12:06 |
| bigjools | wgrant: yes please | 12:06 |
| pgquiles | wgrant: btw, /var/tmp/zeca is not created in the by rocketfuel_setup/start_soyuz.sh/whatever | 12:06 |
| wgrant | pgquiles: Ah, yes, forgot about that. | 12:07 |
| wgrant | bigjools: What do you think about running "UPDATE sourcepackagerelease SET dsc_format='1.0' WHERE dsc_format IS NULL"? No new broken SPRs have been created since 2006, so it should be a safe one-off fix. | 12:32 |
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| bigjools | wgrant: yes, sounds sane | 13:54 |
| matsubara | Chex, gary_poster, rockstar, bigjools, danilos, citrus, allenap: LP production meeting in 15 min @ #launchpad-meeting | 14:45 |
| gary_poster | danilos: do we have team lead call in 15, as Google lists? | 14:47 |
| danilos | gary_poster, no, as per email yesterday | 14:51 |
| danilos | matsubara, thanks | 14:51 |
| gary_poster | danilos: oh, must have missed it in the email swamp. Looking... | 14:51 |
| gary_poster | found, and thanks | 14:56 |
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| sinzui | salgado: ping | 16:45 |
| salgado | hi sinzui | 16:45 |
| sinzui | salgado: I am working on bug 471770. There is a conflict between AdminMergeBaseView.doMerge() which sets the dup email address to NEW and PersonSert._mergeMailingListSubscriptions which moves the subscription (with a NEW email) to the new acount | 16:46 |
| mup | Bug #471770: mailing list subscription email address are in NEW status <oops> <Launchpad Registry:In Progress by sinzui> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/471770> | 16:46 |
| sinzui | salgado: I think I should change PersonSert._mergeMailingListSubscriptions to remove all the subscriptions and send an email to the user that he has to re-validate his address *and* resubscribe... | 16:47 |
| sinzui | salgado: but maybe I should change the subscriptions to the preferred email address, or ensure that the the affect email addresses are VALIDATED | 16:49 |
| pgquiles | wgrant: ping | 16:55 |
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| salgado | sinzui, I think I'd rather remove the subscriptions and send out emails for the user to re-validate the address and subscribe | 17:14 |
| sinzui | salgado: thank you. That is what I will do. | 17:15 |
| mrevell | night all | 17:58 |
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| Ursinha | gmb, ping | 18:29 |
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| thumper | any one around who can review? | 20:28 |
| * thumper needs some reviewers | 20:28 | |
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| wgrant | pgquiles: Hi. | 21:38 |
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| pgquiles | wgrant: hey. I was wondering why the instructions to use Soyuz locally tell you to download a pre-built bootstrap (with all the steps and guessings that involves) instead of telling how to build a bootstrap of your own with debootstrap | 22:07 |
| pgquiles | in the meanwhile, I've added how to use debootstrap to the wiki | 22:07 |
| pgquiles | is there anything special in the bootstraps from launchpadlibrarian.net ? | 22:07 |
| wgrant | pgquiles: The production chroots have various modifications (see /root/bootstrap), and it's so much quicker and easier. | 22:11 |
| wgrant | Plus it is better at convincing me that my full stack changes will work in production. | 22:11 |
| pgquiles | wgrant: mmm I see. So, how are the chroots from launchpadlibrarian.net generated? debootstrap + manual steps? | 22:36 |
| wgrant | pgquiles: I presume debootstrap + copy in that bootstrap script + run that bootstrap script. | 22:45 |
| wgrant | But I don't exactly know. | 22:45 |
| pgquiles | wgrant: should I ask in the mailing list? | 22:47 |
| wgrant | pgquiles: Launchpad developers will not know. It's not really a Launchpad question. | 22:48 |
| pgquiles | oh | 22:48 |
| pgquiles | who can I ask? | 22:48 |
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| maxb | pgquiles: lamont. I'd be interested in the answer. | 23:11 |
| pgquiles | maxb: is he/she on IRC usually (meaning: tomorrow) ? or should I ask by e-mail? | 23:12 |
| maxb | He's certainly sometimes on IRC. LP says he's America/Denver TZ. But for a complex question, email might be best | 23:13 |
| pgquiles | perfect, thanks | 23:13 |
| rockstar | maxb, I think he's EOD'd already. | 23:14 |
| pgquiles | maxb: he's on #debian-devel at OFTC | 23:15 |
| pgquiles | EOD? | 23:15 |
| rockstar | End of day. | 23:15 |
| pgquiles | oh | 23:15 |
| maxb | pgquiles: and also on a variety of #ubuntu-* on freenode | 23:15 |
| pgquiles | I was thinking Esoteric Order of Dragon | 23:15 |
| pgquiles | :-) | 23:15 |
| pgquiles | off to bed, it's late here | 23:17 |
| pgquiles | thank you all, see you tomorrow! | 23:17 |
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