[02:50] <maxb> Is the Debian -> bzr branch importer considered properly live yet?
[02:50] <maxb> Launchpad knows Debian has a 1.6.6 of Subversion, but it doesn't seem to have hit the package branch yet
[02:51] <wgrant> james_w: ^^
[02:51] <wgrant> maxb: It works for most things, but some are out of date or otherwise broken.
[02:53] <maxb> Yup - just wondering: at what point do malfunctions turn from "it's still being worked on" to "please report a bug"
[02:58] <mwhudson> i guess it's worth reporting a bug, james_w is very unlikely to reply today
[02:58] <mwhudson> (i/we have similar questions, btw)
[03:00] <maxb> Does this fall under launchpad-code? Or is there a more specialized project?
[03:06] <poolie> what does "pending (2505)" mean in the ppa build queue?
[03:06] <poolie> i hope not that it's 2505th in the queue?
[03:06] <wgrant> Yet to be built, with a build score of 2505.
[03:06] <wgrant> No.
[03:06] <wgrant> You can see the queue depth at https://launchpad.net/builders
[03:06] <wgrant> The build score is the priority.
[03:09] <mwhudson> maxb: probably 'udd'
[03:09] <mwhudson> maxb: please file a bug; my trackpad has stopped working and so using the web is medium-to-infuriating :-)
[03:09] <mwhudson> i guess i could do it by email, but tbird is terrible too
[03:09] <maxb> sure
[03:10] <wgrant> mwhudson: When did it stop working?
[03:10] <wgrant> Yesterday?
[03:10] <mwhudson> wgrant: this morning
[03:10] <wgrant> mwhudson: Running Karmic?
[03:10] <mwhudson> i think it could be hardware actually
[03:10] <mwhudson> wgrant: yes
[03:10] <wgrant> mwhudson: mthaddon reported a bug about a similar thing last night.
[03:10] <mwhudson> i need to boot into os x and try there
[03:10] <wgrant> Ah.
[03:10] <wgrant> Apple hardware.
[03:10] <wgrant> Yes, try it there please.
[03:11] <wgrant> If not, I will debug.
[03:15] <mwhudson> wgrant: ok
[03:15] <mwhudson> come to think of it, i added the mactel ppa, installed some stuff, hibernated (not on purpose) and the unhibernated
[03:15] <mwhudson> this doesn't sound inherently like something that would work
[03:16] <wgrant> Ah, perhaps not.
[03:16] <mwhudson> the hibernate came from another bug i guess i should try to debug
[03:17] <mwhudson> which is that gnome-power-manager gets the batter level hilariously wrong
[03:17] <mwhudson> to the point that sometimes you plug it *in* to AC power and it goes "eek! no battery left i'm going to hibernate now"
[03:19] <ajmitch> mwhudson: be glad yours hibernates - g-p-m has no discharge rate on mine to judge time left, so will happily let it drain dry with no warning
[03:19] <mwhudson> ajmitch: mine isn't much better really
[03:19] <mwhudson> ajmitch: it will do this with say 80% of the battery left
[03:19] <ajmitch> ouch
[03:20] <ajmitch> say, in the middle of a presentation?
[03:20] <maxb> Filed: bug 481097
[03:30] <PingJocky> hello...
[05:05] <mwhudson> wgrant: this is a bit unfair to ask, but do you know of any problems with wifi in recent karmic?
[05:05] <mwhudson> (or anyone else of course :)
[05:06] <mwhudson> both launchpad and #ubuntu are a bit impossible on my phone
[05:09] <wgrant> mwhudson: There have been no relevant post-release updates (unless you're using -proposed, in which case a new kernel could have broken stuff).
[05:10] <mwhudson> hmm
[05:10] <mwhudson> i wonder if the mactel-support ppa screwed me then
[05:11] <wgrant> Probably.
[05:11] <mwhudson> don't have -proposed enabled
[05:11] <wgrant> Purge that PPA and its packages?
[05:13] <mwhudson> wgrant: how do i do that?
[05:14] <wgrant> mwhudson: There's a convenient script at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/ppa-purge/ubuntu/annotate/head:/ppa-purge.
[05:14] <mwhudson> oh look ubuntu-boot-ppa-karmic too
[05:21] <mwhudson_> well, this other random kernel i have installed certainly seems to work better
[05:22] <wgrant> Ah, good.
[05:22] <mwhudson_> i guess i'll blame the ubuntu-boot ppa
[06:05] <glatzor> Hello, where can I find the spec for the close-bug-by-changelog-entry expression?
[06:06] <wgrant> glatzor: That's part of Ubuntu's dpkg.
[06:07] <wgrant> glatzor: Launchpad just looks at the Launchpad-Bugs-Closed field in the changes file, which is produced by dpkg-genchanges.
[06:07] <wgrant> Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed, sorry.
[06:09] <wgrant> glatzor: In particular, the find_launchpad_closes function in /usr/share/perl5/Dpkg/Vendor/Ubuntu.pm
[06:09] <glatzor> wgrant, thanks
 says "The biggest area of operational headaches I have tends to come from using the
[08:00] <poolie1> Launchpad API. "
[08:10] <jml> poolie1, patches accepted.
[08:11] <poolie1> :)
[08:12] <jml> I miss the days when I could just commit to trunk.
[08:12] <jml> The nineties had so much going for them.
[10:37] <g33k> how can i install launchpad on my server, as its open source now i could do it to maintain my own system right?
[10:38] <maxb> not really
[10:38] <maxb> Firstly, there's a clause in the licence which only opensources the code - not any image/icon files
[10:39] <maxb> Secondly, none of the instructions/examples to allow you do to so easily are publicly published
[10:40] <wgrant> Thirdly, it's not an easy thing to run.
[10:40] <wgrant> Fourthly, why?
[11:51] <g33k> wgrant, i want a good source code maintenance system for my company with bug tracking forum help etc... which is excellently done in lp
[11:52] <maxb> I'd totally try to use LP internally if I could, too
[11:56] <alkisg>  http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-langpack/ppa/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz ==> NOT FOUND, is this normal?
[11:57] <alkisg> (I get that after doing: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-langpack)
[11:58] <alkisg> Urm, yeah, no packages published for Karmic, so not a launchpad problem. Sorry.
[11:59] <bigjools> alkisg: nothing is published for karmic in that PPA
[11:59] <alkisg> I wonder why, though...
[11:59] <alkisg> Anyway, thanks :)
[16:27] <sladen> anyone got a suggest for temporaily blocking apport-generated dups emails
[16:28] <sladen> each of the 2000 people subscribed to a bug report are each getting 2000 "this is a duplicate stack trace" email from as apport works through the backlog
[16:28] <sladen> a handful of them are starting to get grumpy, and send even more emails in reply
[16:40] <smoser> can someone please verify for me... to change where my "@ubuntu.com" address goes, I go https://launchpad.net/%7Esmoser/+editemails and set "contact address", right?
[16:41] <smoser> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail says that @ubuntu.com "alias forwards email to your primary address on LP"
[16:41] <smoser> so, is primary address == contact address ?
[16:42] <jcastro> gmb, bah, what was the url to all the registered bug trackers again?
[16:43] <gmb> jcastro: https://launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers, I think.
[16:47] <highvoltage> hi!
[16:47] <highvoltage> Is there a friendly LP admin around who can delete a team for me?
[16:47] <highvoltage> edubuntu-testers will now be part of ubuntu-qa so we'd like the ~edubuntu-testers group removed please
[16:48] <highvoltage> we've removed all the current users notifying them of the changes and would just like it removed to avoid future confusion
[17:23] <Ursinha> highvoltage, hi :) can you open a question asking for the removal, please?
[17:24] <Ursinha> smoser, yes, you're right
[17:24] <Ursinha> smoser, maybe it would be nice to add this note in the ubuntu wiki page :)
[17:24] <smoser> i'll update it there.
[17:25] <smoser> is launchpad ui multi-lingual? ie, is this just an english thing anyway?
[17:26] <Ursinha> smoser, for now it doesn't support internationalization
[17:33] <smoser> Ursinha, thanks for your help. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail?action=diff&rev2=16&rev1=15 shows my updates to that page. basically s/primary/contact/g
[17:33] <Ursinha> smoser, np! thanks for updating :)
[17:47] <highvoltage> Ursinha: yep, will do
[17:53] <highvoltage> Ursinha: do I ask it in Launchpad Itself?
[17:57] <jpds> highvoltage: Yes.
[18:03] <highvoltage> Ursinha: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/89889
[18:06] <Ursinha> thanks highvoltage
[18:07] <highvoltage> and thank you Ursinha!
[18:07] <Ursinha> np highvoltage! :)
[18:40] <droetker> Hi
[18:40] <droetker> can I report a spammer on launchpad here?
[18:45] <droetker_> anyone here who is in charge of launchpad?
[18:46] <Ursinha> droetker_, hi!
[18:46] <Ursinha> how may I help you?
[18:46] <droetker_> can I report a spammer?
[18:46] <Ursinha> droetker_, sure
[18:47] <droetker_> this looks like spam...
[18:47] <droetker_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/99508/comments/315
[18:47] <droetker_> on a bug that has many subscribers
[18:48] <Ursinha> droetker_, it seems that that user has added the bug email by mistake when adding people in linked.in
[18:48] <Ursinha> let me see
[18:48] <droetker_> could be, yes
[18:48] <Ursinha> droetker_, do you have any other occurrences?
[18:48] <droetker_> because he's a long lasting member of lp
[18:48] <Ursinha> droetker_, I'm saying this because it happens sometimes on #ubuntu-br mailing list as well
[18:48] <droetker_> no, just this one, got the mail as subscriber
[18:48] <droetker_> ok
[18:48] <droetker_> then no problem
[18:49] <Ursinha> droetker_, let us know if he does that again
[18:49] <droetker_> ok
[18:49] <droetker_> thanks
[18:49] <Ursinha> maybe it's better to warn him
[18:49] <droetker_> ;-) yes
[18:49] <Ursinha> thanks droetker_ :)
[20:15] <Xgates> is there a way to disable email notifications?
[20:21] <fcuk112> my LP looks a bit weird : http://bayimg.com/JAEfAAacn
[20:21] <fcuk112> using FF 3.5.5 - already rebooted.
[20:24] <Xgates> anyone?
[20:24] <fcuk112> other webpages look fine.
[20:25] <fcuk112> (other websites)
[20:26] <thumper> Xgates: not in wholesale I think
[20:26] <Xgates> wholesale, what?
[20:26] <thumper> Xgates: particular ones a quite easy
[20:26] <thumper> Xgates: but I don't think we have a button saying "Stop emailing me"
[20:27] <Xgates> yeah there needs to be an option in the Profiles so people can disable them
[20:28] <thumper> fcuk112: looks like you were missing a style sheet for some reason
[20:28] <thumper> fcuk112: Ctrl-F5 often works
[20:28] <fcuk112> thumper: oh hehe nice one.
[20:32] <Xgates> thanks
[20:34] <fale> hi
[20:35] <fale> I went far over the limit of my ppa. How can I solve this?
[20:36] <micahg> fale: you can either delete stuff, create a new ppa, or request an upgrade of space here: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[20:41] <fale> thank you micahg :)
[23:23] <skx> is it possible to create a "private" project on launchpad? with private mailing list, archive and all (private as in available only to onvited users)
[23:23] <skx> or should I rather look somewhere else?
[23:24] <spm> skx: it is possible certainly, but is for fee. there's a faq on the help pages about that somewhere.....
[23:24] <thumper> skx: even though there are private entities like bugs and branches
[23:24] <thumper> skx: the project itself can't yet be private
[23:25] <skx> thanks, thumper and spm
[23:46] <wgrant> skx: Note that in addition to private bugs and branches, there are private PPAs and mailing lists.
[23:47] <skx> wgrant, with private archives? so you CAN have a pretty much private project?
[23:48] <wgrant> skx: Somewhat. The project itself will still be visible, as will any milestones/questions/blueprints.
[23:48] <skx> oh, ok
[23:48] <skx> thanks